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Welcome to the Jack Hopkins

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Show podcast , where stories

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about the power of focus and resilience

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are revealed by the people

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who live those stories and

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now the host of the Jack Hopkins

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Show podcast , jack

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Hopkins .

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All right , welcome to the Jack Hopkins Show

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podcast . I'm your host , Jack

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Hopkins , and today's

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guest needs no introduction

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Tom Arnold , best

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known , I think , by a lot of people for his

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1994 co-starring

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role with Arnold Schwarzenegger in

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True Lies . Do

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you get that a lot , Tom ? That's what people

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I do .

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But old people they

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remember the Roseanne show from six years before

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that . But a lot of people they

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like that movie . You know it

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holds up . They don't all hold up , jack , I've

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missed all those . I've made 150

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movies , four good ones and that's one

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of the good ones . And you know people still

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. You know I was up last week with

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Arnold Schwarzenegger up in

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Toronto filming his Netflix

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series Fubar , which

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it has a lot of similar tones to

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it . Nice , but people liked

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that one and you know

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, after we made it it was a big

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hit , you know , and we all

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stayed friends . I thought I bet every movie

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is like this . It turns out no movies are like that

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. I

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was lucky to be in it . I'm moving my thing over

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in case it helps my eye line . I

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have to have my kid come in here and

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set it up for me . I hear you

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, yeah , it was great fun . But

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you know , uh , yeah , it was great , great fun and uh , you know

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, I and I just want to say I appreciate I'm here because

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I appreciate what you do and a lot of people , uh , out here in

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my world appreciate what you do and

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you have random . You're the

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fans . There's people from the miami

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housewives appreciate what you're doing

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. There's big , big-time lawyers that are

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, you know , killers

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that appreciate what you're doing . It's always funny

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because they'll send me your stuff

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. I'll get texts about what you're

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up to and things and I'm like

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you guys know him okay .

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That's a good thing , though , buddy . Well

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, that's awesome . That's awesome . Let's

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talk a little bit about your beginnings

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, your upbringing , because you and I grew

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up not that far apart in the rural Midwest

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, or even a time where I still

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kind of consider rural Midwest

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. We're out here in the middle of you

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know , when

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did you grow up ? First of all , I

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grew up in trenton , missouri

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, which is about an hour

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west

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of kirksville oh , I did , yeah

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, oh yeah .

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Yeah . My sister went to northeast missouri

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state . It was called that is , oh yeah

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, oh hey , kirkville . And so

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I had to say something . And ktvo

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our our television station

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. I was watching uh , I don't

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know if it was out

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Wagner or somebody and they

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had these . It's a Sinclair station now

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, people being concerned , he's too old

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. Every of all

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their 50 stations

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. They had lineups saying the same words

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about it , like here's what

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you need to do . And I

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was like they saw me in a tub while I was going to go down there

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and talk to them .

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Shaked up . It's

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kind of crazy . Interestingly enough , just just last

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week and it will air here in

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a week or two I did a podcast with a lady named

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sue wilson who is

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, uh , she , she worked

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in that industry and who is now

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out talking about the

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changes that need to be made , and sinclair

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was a big part of that discussion

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. So yeah , yeah , yeah , it's a problem .

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I don't even know that the people of those small towns

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that work at those stations realize you

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know what's going on , but

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the fact that it's the station

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for Etobicoke , iowa , my hometown , I

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was like , oh my gosh , I got it , okay

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, yeah yeah . So

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it's interesting .

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I I was watching a recent

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podcast that you did and

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you said that about

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three years after high school for about three years

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after high school , you worked in

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a meat packing plant in a tumla

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, and I kind of had that experience too

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. I worked in the same food processing

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plant that my father had worked

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in for 40 years . I only

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lasted a year . The

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day that got me was when a friend

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of mine that worked there we were sitting out

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in the parking lot and you're familiar

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with this of a Hy-Vee grocery

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store and my

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buddy we were both just like 18 , 19

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at the time and he said I

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guarantee you , if we pulled into

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town and knew nobody , we

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could sit in this parking lot , watch

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people get out of their cars and

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walk in and be

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able to tell you who worked

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at that food plant , Because they're humped

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over , they look like they're broken down

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, they don't care anymore . And

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that's when I knew I had to go .

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Well , you know it's hard work . I

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worked on the kill floor . I

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started livestock , which is outside

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, you know , outside Iowa a little bit , and

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then you kind of move up as you get better jobs

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, you and your thing will come up . Well

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, there's a better job Pulling

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leaf lard . That was a terrible job . You're figuring out some more . But

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then I go to the kill floor , which is hard

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work . Everybody's working very hard

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and people always ask me how do I get a job

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that I don't get fired from ? And I'm

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like , get a very shitty job . They

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didn't care if you drank

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. They didn't care if you drank . They didn't

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care if you took speed . They

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liked it . They

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didn't care if you kept this light on

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. You had to go out to the union hall . Everybody's

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got very sharp knives .

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This is not the truth .

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Not bad , go to the union hall . Then everybody after

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work would pull back to the union hall . We'd have a little

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thing and a couple punches thrown , then everybody would pull back the idea you know , we have a little

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thing , you know , a couple punches thrown , then everybody would

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go to the bar and everybody had to buy a shot

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for everybody . So you have to eat

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every night . You're like god damn . Then you

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, I'll say the old timers uh

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, there was a couple that I really liked and they

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would just come into work vomit every day

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and they'd go about their work like they they had and I did

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go about their work , like they had a job . And I

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did see happy people there . You know my

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grandpa had worked there 50 years , my dad

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, my uncle . But

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I wanted to get out of there . Because I wanted to get

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out of Iowa , because I had this crazy

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dream of being a stand-up

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comedian , you know . But

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the money was good back then and it was

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. They had benefits and everything . And

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I remember after the second year

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I started looking around like how do people

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stay here ? Okay , they get married , they

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have a family and I see how happy they

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are there and I

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was like that's going to be , maybe I have

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to do that , Maybe I have to surrender to this . And

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then , my third year , I got fired . When

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I got arrested for public unity at an old folks

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home , I

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called it sick , like

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just getting arrested for public unity . But you

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call it sick and I had two strikes

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at the time . You know our union was

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pretty strong back then he got three strikes and

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then every six months one strike would disappear

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. So then once I go down

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from two to one now I know I can

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screw around again , but this time

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I blew it because I had two and

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the meat-packing plant

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it was Hormel . We

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went on a very famous

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meat-packing plant strike . There's

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a documentary about it , called American

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Dream , that Barbara Koppel won

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the Oscar for . I don't know

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if it was like the 88 or 89

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. It was after I moved to Hollywood because

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they asked me to . Harvey Weiss was the producer

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. He's like

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nobody else out here has worked in

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a meatpacking plant . I go , yeah , but

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it shows how ridiculous that strike

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was . You know

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how our union guys got

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just completely snookered . You

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know , because Ornell would say you guys are

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. You know what you guys are going to be profit

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participants . You know . So you have

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skin in the game . You work 38 hours

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a week and that's what you get . You

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pay for all the time , even if you don't

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work it , and at the end of that or

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if you have to work more at the end of the year you'll get a big

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check for the extra hours

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. They didn't want to pay us overtime but it was

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kind of a good thing . And then , as it got towards the

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end of the year , then they just said stay home , stay

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home , we're

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going to die , were kind of blind . They were really tough . I just went go on this strike . And the

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plant in Austin , minnesota , had been on strike for like a

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year and a half , like that's their home plant

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and we go on a strike to support them

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and they fire everybody

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at a time . They fire everybody at the plant

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. And

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so Austin had gone back and they

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fired everybody . And then we said , hey , hey

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, guys , why don't you come out some more tonight

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? We have too long . So

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, hormel being very smart

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, very evil , they just changed the name on

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the outside of the building from Hormel to

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XL . They made exactly the

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same product , the curating one halves , exactly

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the same bacon and all that

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, and they changed the name . And then they

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broke in the union so that they hired

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people for half

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the wages and you know there

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were a lot of migrants that worked there , people these

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big companies complained about , but they do . It

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worked for the migrants , you know , in our

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food industry there

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would be no food industry , there would be no farming

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? Absolutely , because

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my four younger brothers did want to

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work in the Meatpacking Black because it was too hard .

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Yes .

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They hired people that were really happy to work

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there and it changed that

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. First of all , the Meatpacking Black

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shutting down in the 80s and

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the other plants that shut down was

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very devastating for the

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Midwest and my town and

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we're still trying to kind of recover from

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it . I think we're on the way back with

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the union stuff

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coming together , but it was a pretty devastating thing

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. And then the drugs came in . It's

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my sister's soul , my sister . A

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documentary series about my little sister

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called the Queen of Net . My little

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sister was the biggest drug dealer in America

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. People are like was it embarrassing having

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your sister be a drug dealer ? And I'm like not

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. When I was doing drugs it wasn't embarrassing

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, it's frustrating . But you

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know you really look at the

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economic thing . I mean

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it was just ripe for that stuff and you know pretty devastating what it did . Economic thing I mean

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it was just ripe for that stuff and pretty

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devastating what it did . And I

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think we're still kind of coming

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back . I think that

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my party made a lot of mistakes

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. The Democrats . You know they

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forgot about the people that were Like

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County Wapakow , county Iowa was

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the biggest Democratic county in the country

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per capita . You know they voted

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against Abraham Lincoln . And

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the first time I met Maria Shriver in 1980

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, she came there with her uncle who

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was running for president , I believe and that

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was the place she hit in Subtle Iowa . And

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now I see you know like Trump goes in there

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and he's speaking at the Tom

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Arnold Rec Center , which pisses me off . They

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have a community college there , but you know

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people are , you

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know they're very much Trump

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stuff and what we have to do is convince

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them . Well , you like insurance

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, you like that , you like the low-cost

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prescriptions . By the way , with the

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last lowering of prescriptions I

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had the last hand . He put down top

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hand and he pressed it from $700

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to $30 . I had three of them

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. I have some

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issues . So I was like , oh , that's

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amazing , I got those all cut

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down . We have to do

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a better job . We did . We did

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slip up and forget

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about that people

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that you're talking about .

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Do you find that there's this false sense of well , we are Republicans , we support

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him , so this mean shit that he says he's going to do to people

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won't affect us , because

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you know we're on his side . And

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my thing is once

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Trump would , once he

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was in , the whole

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Republican Democrat thing in his mind

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would just blur . It's just people

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, and now he's king shit yeah

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, he cares .

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I've known him for 40 years . He cares

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about one thing himself these

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people buy into it and they

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don't really . It's important for us

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to lay out the facts . Well , here's what you will

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lose . You know . He said he would have

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a new insurance . They get rid of a bump here , but

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better , cheaper . He lies all the time

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. It's good to be like . Sometimes you need to hear lies

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to make you feel good . But

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yeah , he's not paying the tax

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cuts to the richest people . Down

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to the , to the other people , I think , whatled down

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to the other people . I think what happens in

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this country is , every generation , someone

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comes along . There's a disenfranchised group

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of white people , every generation

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, and they come along and all of a sudden the guy

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comes up , the political guy . He's like I'm

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you , I am you , I'm going

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to fight for you . You're screwed . I'm

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going to fight for you . Nobody cares . They're

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giving their jobs to people of color . They're giving

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. They bypass you , but I am like

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you . In fact , I'm worse , like I am

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, whatever race and stuff , and

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these guys get behind this figurehead

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and then at the end he collapses

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and what happens is the rest of the country

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, the people of color , women , whatever they

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move up a notch , but this

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group of white folks Southern

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Midwestern that got behind this crazy birth

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, they stay the same . So

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it happened every generation . You could look and

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they go , because they're looking for one guy and he

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goes you are better , you're

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down there , but you're still better than the

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best black guy . That's really what they

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want to hear .

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Right .

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And they're still at your top and they get

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the fear going and a lot of it

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makes zero sense because

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they have jobs

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or they don't want to do those shitty

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jobs that immigrants will do

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the hard-ass physical

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labor jobs , but they're like , they just

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want to . They've been wrong . And

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finally , so is standing up for the white people and

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this guy . They think he'll do

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it , but Trump lies

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every time he promises Again . I've

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known him . I wasn't going

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to blame my manager with Trump People

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. He did my sports show . You know

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, I remember the late

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80s Rosanna and I did an HBO

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special at one of the Trump casinos

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that went bankrupt and he said

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at the time we're getting ready to do this show . He goes

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hey , I got a great idea . I got a

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guy who has a

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Bugatti or some 1920s

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car that was worth millions of dollars and

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all in all I have them packing up , bringing up here to

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Atlantic City and then

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I will drive that , we'll build the stage

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. I'll drive that . I'll be like Roseanne's

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chauffeur . We'll

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drive that big , beautiful car out there and

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Duesenberg , I think it was and we'll drive

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that big car and I'll be like her chauffeur

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and she'll get out of the car on stage and

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I remember thinking , well , that's it , now he's in

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the show . He figured out a way to get in the show , which

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to me was pretty funny , so we

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did that . You can see it . You can see what happened . And

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then about four months later

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I get a call from the HBO people . Four months later I get

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a call from the HBO people like hey , that farmer who owns that

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car , that has that car on his farm , that

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bossed it up and drove it all

16:29

the way up to Atlantic City . Trump never paid

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him for that . He's probably paying $30,000

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. He never paid him . So what

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do you want to do ? I go , let's pay

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him . It's a funny little joke . It's

16:40

a joke about Donald Trump

16:42

, the bullshit in his bad . That

16:44

seemed funny . But to

16:46

understand , well , that's really how he debates

16:49

and you know I knew

16:51

him , which is fine . He's the

16:53

Donald Trump guy from the fake reality show

16:55

, which I'm so grateful I never did . I'm

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so grateful he does his twice-four

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show , best-says-four-show period , which is

17:03

one of my favorite jobs to do at that show to

17:06

promote the Apprentice . And

17:08

first of all , he does

17:10

the thing when he's with you , like me

17:12

and Mike Lervage and John

17:14

Sally and all the guys and right

17:16

when we start filming , he goes . I just want to say I

17:18

am here for tomorrow . I am here

17:20

because of my relationship with Tom , which gives you a little

17:23

tingle in your spine . That's what

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he's capable of , that with people . And

17:27

you're like well , that's a nice Thank

17:30

you . That's very gracious . And afterwards he said I

17:32

have a new vodka or tequila , whatever

17:35

. We come to the Playboy Mansion with me . We're

17:37

having a party tonight . I go yeah , I'll go

17:39

over there with you . He goes I want you to meet my new

17:41

girlfriend . I go oh , yeah , he goes . She's a playmate

17:44

. She's so freaking out that I go

17:46

okay , I'll go there with you . And so I go over

17:48

there with you and he's I meet carrie mcdougall

17:50

and she's got the buddy thing

17:52

on . I think she's playmate of the year . Seemed like

17:54

very nice gal and I talk

17:57

a little bit and he's like oh well , audio is here too

17:59

. And my daughter like then

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they all pose for a picture together . This

18:05

guy does not care . I've

18:07

worked with athletes and didn't seem to

18:09

care . But this guy is

18:12

, you know , and then when he says , get around for president

18:14

, I was like that that

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is unacceptable , it's gonna be a horrible I'm

18:19

trying to wrap all the people that do him , like

18:21

I did you for the Apprentice or Miss

18:23

Universe , and

18:26

it should have been when he started the Berkler

18:28

stuff with Obama . That

18:33

should have been it right there in 2011 . Because

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I'll tell you , as a Jew , if the first

18:37

Jewish president , if he would have went on TV

18:39

and said I

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demand to see your birth certificate , he would have never done it again . He would have never . He would have never

18:44

done it again . He would never . We would have

18:46

got together . I'm

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disappointed we didn't do that for

18:51

the first time , so I made

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a slide , let it slide . and now

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here we are .

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Yes , you know , when I was in the military

18:59

we had amongst each other we

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had a saying you know , trust me with your

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life , but never your money or your girlfriend

19:06

, right , and it was just kind of a ha ha thing between

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between each other . But that

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to me , that the

19:14

last two encapsulate donald

19:17

trump in the way he

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lives his life 24 7 except

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he . You couldn't trust him with

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your life either . You couldn't trust him with your life either . You couldn't trust him

19:26

with your life , your money or your girlfriend

19:28

any time .

19:29

No , no , no . It's plain

19:34

as day . And here's the thing he is authentic

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. Donald Trump is authentic , authentically

19:39

who he is , authentically bad . That's

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who he is . He's authentic . Rodgers had us

19:43

try to run as a Donald Trump

19:45

type . He wasn't authentic at all , and people

19:47

recognize this . They're like well , nobody will vote for him if

19:50

you're not authentic . And what's

19:52

happened with Trump is the people

19:54

around him have changed , people that

19:57

used to be legitimate United States senators

19:59

that cared about different issues , or

20:01

whatever . Or America or the Constitution

20:03

, or the people serving , or whatever . Or America or the Constitution or the people serving

20:05

, or whatever they have molded themselves

20:08

into being . You know and

20:10

these guys do they do better . They

20:12

said it when they were running against him

20:14

, you know . They said all this stuff

20:16

and now they've molded themselves into being

20:19

psychopaths for this A

20:21

better version

20:23

of the vice presidential

20:25

job , where he is literally running

20:28

them around like idiots . He is

20:30

making them fawn over

20:32

him and you know he went up to Capitol

20:34

Hill . They all kind of gathered around him

20:36

and I will say

20:38

this , when he first started doing that with his cabinet

20:40

like James Mattis , the

20:43

military people he was going around the room and

20:45

we wanted somebody to say something good about him on

20:47

camera and you know , james Mattis

20:49

was like , yeah , this is not how it works . I

20:54

am going to . No , I'm going to . In

20:56

fact , I'm not going to be here anymore these meetings

20:58

because I want to do my job , you

21:00

know , and all the good military

21:02

people that worked with him , you know , and all the good military people that worked

21:05

with him , you know , his chief of staff , all these

21:07

people , the

21:09

good ones they will never forget

21:11

, because they all talk

21:13

these stories and Trump's like , well , I'll

21:15

get shitty . Let's say I'll

21:17

get people that will do exactly what

21:19

I want to do and I

21:22

have no plans or anything like that . There's no policy

21:24

stuff . There's . No , here's my goal

21:26

. I'm just going to do this . No , I'm just going to fix

21:28

everything , everything . The america is shitty

21:31

, shitty , shitty , dark , shitty

21:33

, shitty , and I'll fix it on day one

21:35

. And uh , and , and that's not

21:37

even you know . You want things

21:39

to be better , but how stupid do you have

21:41

to be to go ? Okay , he never did

21:44

it in four years . But

21:46

now he's really going to do it . He is

21:48

going to do it and I also

21:50

think it's important . People remember the last year of his

21:53

presidency . There was an international

21:55

pandemic and thousands

21:57

of people were dying every day and

22:00

it was a scary time . It

22:02

was a scary time for me and

22:04

my kids it was . You know , I was so grateful

22:07

that he had his Operation Jetstar

22:09

or whatever that got the vaccine Like

22:11

that was a really great accomplishment

22:14

during his administration . Now

22:16

he can't admit that because , exactly

22:19

, yeah , because his voters

22:21

, they hate the vaccine . And

22:23

he's like now I can't admit this really

22:26

great thing that was accomplished

22:28

during my time . And

22:30

the last thing I want to say is he will never

22:32

say anything bad about anyone that goes

22:34

through it . It could be David Duke , it doesn't

22:36

matter . The problem always is that he is

22:38

incapable . If you support

22:41

him because it is all about him

22:43

, he's such a narcissist he will never

22:45

. He'll pretend he doesn't know about your

22:47

crimes , but

22:49

he'll never put down anyone

22:52

that he supports him . And

22:54

you go back to George HW Bush , which

22:57

won . There's

22:59

a Republican convention of these far-right

23:01

racists trying to participate

23:03

and he got up and made a speech . There's the

23:05

door . You're not welcome here . Can

23:09

you imagine Trump doing that ? I

23:14

think this will be a reckoning , for we

23:16

certainly have to do everything we

23:18

can and

23:21

hopefully this will pop the boil and

23:24

him and everybody around him will go

23:26

up a cliff , and

23:29

that's going to take a lot of work ?

23:30

Yes , absolutely . And you said

23:32

something , tom , that I think is so key

23:34

. You said he just comes in and says you know , I'm

23:37

going to fix everything . And

23:39

when I hear him do

23:41

that and I think this will resonate with

23:43

you , when I hear him do that , and I think this will resonate

23:45

with you , the area that I grew up in , it's

23:47

the kind of language that

23:50

they speak . For example , if

23:52

I were to , let's say , have

23:54

called an uncle of mine who

23:58

I knew his car broke down , and

24:00

if I would have called him and said what

24:02

happened , he

24:05

would have said , oh , it's all fucked up . If I said , what are you going to do

24:08

, he'd have said , ah , fix it . There

24:10

wouldn't have been any detail about

24:13

it . There wouldn't have been . I think

24:16

one of the pistons the

24:19

silver was , and then okay . So what we're going

24:21

to do is this the floor , the silver walls and then okay . So what we're going

24:23

to do is this . Trump zeroes in

24:25

on those easy

24:27

, ambiguous but

24:30

specific sounding things

24:32

and to a big section of America

24:34

, we're going

24:36

to fix this Sounds very

24:39

specific . It's

24:41

a crazy phenomenon .

24:43

We just want to be able to sleep at night . We

24:45

want to . The president says everything's fine

24:47

phenomenon . We just want to be able to

24:49

sleep at night . We want to . President

24:51

says everything's fine , I got it . I got

24:53

this . Go to sleep this war , whatever we're into . I got this

24:56

Now , that's a really good thing for a

24:58

president . You know that's a Reagan had

25:00

that . You know Obama too . But

25:02

when there's , when you see

25:04

that his body of work and there's just not

25:06

going to happen . I mean , when Trump

25:08

got elected , he had the Senate and

25:11

the House , like all three , all three

25:13

, and he never got anything done

25:15

. He did the tax cut , which

25:18

raised the deficit $8

25:21

trillion , but he didn't get

25:23

any of it . He was always like I'm gonna do

25:26

, repeal this thing and do something great

25:28

, or I'm having infrastructure week or

25:30

whatever , or I'm building the full

25:33

wall . And then he just people just

25:35

had to start lying and saying , well , he built the wall

25:37

. It's time to think you know , you know they

25:39

will do that , so , um , he

25:42

won't do anything and he'll blame everybody else

25:44

. But just starting from a place of America

25:46

is this shitty , dark , evil

25:48

, terrible place . The economy

25:50

is just terrible . You

25:53

know , if you care about facts , our

25:55

economy is better than any place in the world . We're not

25:57

as shitty . We're the best place in

26:00

the world . It's fighting Donald Trump

26:02

and our military is

26:04

the best military by far . It's not even

26:06

close . So you

26:08

know , if

26:10

your pitch is , hey , we're

26:12

all screwed . It's terrible , it's dark

26:15

, it's evil . We're being overrun

26:17

by people who are different , god

26:21

wants me to do this thing . I

26:24

think it's on them to believe that . I

26:26

certainly feel like women saved this last

26:28

election . Women in general

26:31

. Us guys were like , okay

26:33

, that guy , he's kind of funny , we'll

26:36

compromise the shit out of stuff , we'll make deals

26:38

. But I

26:40

think women who don't always

26:42

get involved with politics , I

26:45

think there's a lot of women who think it's stupid and they've

26:47

got better stuff to do when they do get involved

26:49

, when they're like , oh , this is it

26:51

, this is over , I cannot take

26:53

, I don't want to see that guy again . That

26:55

guy , this show is over

26:58

, I do not want to watch this

27:00

show . And they get involved and

27:02

angry and vote and

27:04

then that changes things . I hope it .

27:06

I hope it doesn't get this stuff too yes

27:08

, I want to contrast your

27:11

life and your relationship

27:13

with money and

27:15

donald trump's , because donald trump came into the

27:17

world in a family with

27:20

a lot of money , never knew poverty

27:23

, never knew a hamburger

27:25

helper . You

27:29

reached a pinnacle where

27:32

you had more money than you

27:34

ever dreamed of , but you didn't start there

27:36

. Tell

27:38

me a little bit about growing

27:41

up . I know your mother left at one point

27:43

and your dad was she left when I was

27:45

four , my sister of three , my brother's one .

27:45

I know your mother left at one point and your dad was . She left . When I was four , my sister of

27:47

three , my brother's one . I'm glad she left

27:49

. She realized this is

27:52

a bad thing . My parents got married at 18 and 16

27:54

. And so when

27:56

my dad was 22 , he had a four-year-old , a

27:58

three-year-old , a one-year-old , which is pretty

28:01

awesome . He

28:03

said you need't play with us more , he goes . I

28:05

got to work at it and he was . You know

28:07

, once I had my own kids I'm like , oh no , he was killing

28:09

it . So , yeah

28:12

, so there's that . And so

28:14

there was never . You know , growing

28:16

up I knew , okay , if I want something

28:18

, I

28:29

got to mow yards . You gotta bill . Hey , I gotta . And I did get a lot of self-esteem

28:31

from you know , these are things that wouldn't happen today . Where you're 10 years old

28:33

, you go down the church parking lot , get on a school bus full of trip chairs to go

28:35

house and details accord with bed right and uh . But you know , I remember

28:37

the first real job that

28:39

I got a dollar 48 hour'm

28:41

like this feels good and I

28:43

packed my lunch . And when

28:46

I was 13 , my boss was 15

28:49

. And you know , 15-year-old boys are

28:51

just huge assholes , so they

28:53

would always be . And my 13-year-old friends just gave

28:55

a shake and they'd fire us one day

28:57

, out by Ostalusa , which is

28:59

22 miles from the tunnel , and

29:02

they fired us and there's no ride home . So

29:04

we had to hitchhike and I

29:07

still had my lunch , but my lunch failed . So

29:09

I got home and I took everything

29:11

out and I hid it and I just did what my

29:14

dad's going for because I got fired

29:16

, because they left

29:18

me . So I called Leo McCurdy from McCurdy Scene

29:20

. He never got a call from a kid

29:22

or whatever I said . Here's what happened

29:25

. I was working real hard meeting my buddies and

29:27

this guy and this guy . They wanted to take

29:29

off . They fired us and

29:32

I want to come back to work tomorrow and

29:34

he's like , wow , again , that

29:36

was ever . So I went next . I didn't have to

29:38

tell my dad . I got fired . I

29:40

would have loved to have a rich dad . I'm not going to lie

29:43

to you People are like I bet you're grateful that your

29:45

dad never gave you anything . I'm

29:47

like no , no , I would have taken a rich dad . You

29:51

know , if I wanted to go to college , I had to pay for college

29:53

. If I wanted to do this , I had to do this . If

29:55

I wanted to have a car , if I wanted to have , you

29:58

know , whatever , and it isn't . You

30:00

do think of things . You

30:02

know , I can't imagine having

30:04

a father that is so

30:06

wealthy , gives you basically $420

30:09

million from his tax

30:11

stuff . I mean , that would be . I

30:13

love that , I

30:17

love that . But it's not the way that things go . And

30:20

you know , on the other hand , I get out here , have these dreams

30:22

come true , do a lot of fantastic

30:24

things , make tens of millions

30:26

of dollars , and then you know , I get divorced

30:29

four times and I give my money

30:31

. So I

30:34

would have liked to have paid a little more attention

30:36

when I was at University of Iowa

30:38

studying business administration

30:40

. I recommend that to everybody , because

30:43

when you do , when you have nothing and then you've got all

30:45

this stuff , you assume that's not

30:48

real money or you assume that's always

30:51

going to be there and you just want to . You

30:53

don't really plan for things , and

30:56

so you know . Then you get

30:58

later on you're like what happened to that ? Where

31:00

is that ? You know ? I have a funny thing about

31:03

my old college . It's called

31:05

the Tom Arnold Net Center . You

31:08

know how you get your name on a building . You have a lot of money

31:10

. Sure . I

31:12

remember one time when I was trying

31:14

to figure out the money situation I

31:16

was like , wait a minute , did I give them that , or was that

31:18

like a loan ? I

31:25

feel very lucky . I've

31:29

been in a seven-year legal thing with ex-wives

31:32

and kids and cops

31:35

just awful stuff . So

31:37

I'm just so grateful to have these guys

31:39

. And my dad didn't do anything . I

31:41

said , dad , I need a couple of dollars

31:43

for the store . And he

31:46

pulled the clock and said Bobby , you

31:48

got no money and I've done that

31:50

with my kids . Daddy , can

31:53

I have something ? I

31:55

go hey , I got no money . I pulled

31:57

the clock and said what do you do , dad ? Hit

32:00

your pass , hang it in your bedroom in the

32:02

front pocket . You

32:07

got $97 . Your pass hanging in your bedroom

32:09

in the front right front pocket . You got 97 dollars . Like you

32:11

know , they keep track of that stuff , which is good , but

32:13

you do , um , you know you do have a . You've

32:15

been truly poor . You

32:17

know where you're looking for boys

32:20

looking for , you know . You

32:22

see , and , by the way , when I first started comedy I was

32:24

that poor . But

32:27

the reason that I loved it so much , it

32:30

was my dream . When I was a kid

32:32

. The only time we heard our dad laugh really

32:34

hard was when there was a Bob Holmes special

32:36

on . Bob Holmes was this comedian who went

32:38

around to entertain the troops in Vietnam

32:41

or Germany

32:43

, wherever , and he

32:45

did his act and he brought beautiful women

32:48

and there was a lot of double entendre

32:50

jokes that my dad loved

32:53

and I thought I'm going to do what that Bob Hope does

32:55

. And one of the first things I did . I moved to Los

32:57

Angeles here in 1988

32:59

, and I did a Bob Hope special and

33:02

Bob Hope was

33:04

there with him . He follows my dad , he

33:06

signs all this stuff for my dad . It was so cool

33:08

and so my dad , in

33:10

the same living room , same

33:13

TV that he used to watch Bob

33:15

Hope specials when I was a

33:17

little kid , is now watching Bob

33:19

Hope and his son is standing

33:21

next to Bob Hope . Like that's a magic

33:24

that you can't . That is crazy

33:26

. You know , I

33:28

have to say this . A lot of the

33:30

kids go to . I like the school they go to

33:32

here . We had a bit of a drive , but I like

33:34

it a lot . And at first I'd hear a lot of parents

33:37

like that Dream it be it , like

33:39

you can do anything you want . I used to think I think

33:42

I've been split the difference with my

33:44

kids . You know I don't want to get too uh

33:46

. But then I thought , wait a minute . Every dream I've

33:48

ever had it's come true , like literally the

33:51

dreams I used to have when I was chiseling heads at

33:53

the beat , you know , being

33:55

robbed , players , being friends

33:57

with rob , that you know all of them . So

34:00

I can't tell them well , no , you that

34:02

won't come true , because it really has . So I

34:05

don't know how , but I'm very lucky .

34:07

I heard you mention hauling hay . I

34:10

too hauled hay and mowed yards

34:12

and I will tell you . I

34:14

won't tell you because you know anybody

34:16

listening . If there's anything

34:19

in life that will inspire you to

34:21

do something else , it is hauling

34:23

hay in 105 degree

34:25

weather .

34:27

It's awful , it's sticky , you

34:30

know you have to take your shirt off . It's so freaking hot

34:32

. It's got valet stack of hay

34:34

, just anything with hay , and

34:37

what was you know ? My kids

34:39

I bring them to my

34:41

work once in a while . I want them to . I don't know they don't have to be actors , they don't

34:43

have to a while . I want them to . I don't know they don't have to be actors , they don't have to be producers . I

34:46

want them to just see what we do , because

34:48

that's what my dad used to be doing so far , and

34:50

I realized I don't want to do this . I do

34:53

not . This is I'll do it now to make

34:55

money . And do you know ? hang

34:57

out , but this is not what

34:59

I want to do Now . There's a place called Underwood

35:01

Bars out here . That's about an hour

35:04

and 15 minutes out there on the 101

35:06

. And I drive my kids there and

35:09

the other kids from school and I pay

35:11

$125 each day for

35:13

them to get out and pick fruit

35:15

and vegetables .

35:16

Nice .

35:17

Just love it and get a bat and I watch

35:19

it . Every time I'm like that is such

35:21

a crazy thing to me , being a sign

35:23

a Simon back in the middle of this freaking

35:25

field , right . But you know

35:27

, that's you know , and I hope that

35:30

they see things that

35:32

I you know the acting thing I've

35:35

done some independent films . They're like will you do this

35:37

? So I go yeah , if you'll give me two hours in

35:39

the studio with my kids and shooting something . First

35:41

they have these little studios where they

35:44

have a court and they have a

35:46

boxing ring , a police station . You go

35:48

room to room . I said let us figure

35:50

something out . The kids write something

35:53

out . My son likes to go down and set

35:55

up the license stuff

35:57

and build the set . He's very

35:59

interested in that part of it . My daughter likes the other

36:01

part If it's what

36:03

they want to do . There's

36:06

a lot of different jobs in my business . But

36:08

you know , if it's just like

36:10

I want to be famous , I'm like , well , that's

36:12

not how it works . You're

36:14

my kid , here's

36:17

what I'm saying for you . There's

36:19

tradesmen , there's craftsmen , people

36:22

it's not all just the people on

36:24

camera . There's a lot of you working

36:26

hard to do all this stuff . There are opportunities

36:29

. I think it's been a couple

36:31

of shitty years

36:33

for us with the strikes and we're

36:35

not back up to 100% . The

36:38

studio's really back on the strike . They

36:40

had all their content , like they

36:42

do . This is how long the

36:44

strike's going to last . We're going to say bullshit

36:46

, bullshit , bullshit . This is not a good time

36:48

to strike . We're going to say all that shit that they always say

36:50

, and then we'll settle when we

36:52

need it to settle , and that's what's happened

36:55

. And now we're waiting on the crews they

36:57

have until July 20th , I think to

37:10

sign there with first aid , the riders and the actors you can't do anything without . And

37:12

now the crews may go on trying . They're negotiating because this ai thing and hopefully

37:14

they'll get that done and one of the things anytime they're . You know I am a very pro , pro

37:16

, pro union person and I I

37:19

know the ups guys . We see a lot of liberty

37:21

guys . My son bought himself a what

37:23

do you put a stack of

37:25

boxes on , and he likes to . Oh

37:28

yeah , he just loves to get out

37:30

there with those guys a dolly or whatever he's

37:32

got a dolly yeah a flatbed too . But

37:34

but you know , the UPS

37:36

guys want to strike and then when they solve

37:39

it , settle it . I was like that

37:41

is good news for us , the

37:43

actors , the writers , because

37:45

any time a union , whatever

37:47

kind of union it is , works something

37:49

out , there's a sort of a ripple effect

37:53

, because that , you know , that will

37:55

eventually get to us . And

37:57

it's the same way people bust

38:00

a union somewhere or people decide

38:02

not to vote , they commit to

38:04

vote against the union . You're like okay

38:07

, that's a little bit of a negative for

38:09

us . So the more you can encourage

38:11

these people to be brave and

38:13

go out and do this thing , the better it is for

38:15

everybody .

38:16

Right , I've

38:19

got a question about your industry

38:22

. How long because , here you are , you have this dream . You

38:24

start off in a tamua , you you

38:27

make your way to LA and you talk

38:29

about in 88 , you know you're

38:32

on stage with Bob Hope and your dad's

38:34

watching . How long

38:36

is it before you

38:38

have that feeling and realize

38:41

I am now

38:43

one of

38:45

them ? I would assume

38:48

that takes a little while to

38:50

realize I'm now a star .

38:52

Yeah , Well , I have to

38:54

Sad . Five guys is

38:56

here at the door .

38:59

Five guys is great . It's

39:02

expensive .

39:04

It's like I'll order from there because I'm like I won't

39:07

eat the bud , great prize . I will

39:09

say eat the bud , great prize

39:11

. I will say I was

39:13

crazy . Like I thought

39:15

, oh , I'm part of this . I

39:19

remember saying if I could

39:22

just get to the University of Iowa

39:24

, I started so that's a meat

39:26

pack . But if I just get up there because they've got a stage and

39:29

I get on that stage and in six weeks

39:31

I'll be on the David Letterman show , that's what I really

39:33

believe . And of course it takes

39:35

eight years or whatever it took . But

39:38

I had to believe that to get up there

39:40

and do what I was doing

39:42

and I wasn't good at it , I had to learn

39:44

to get good at it by working with people

39:46

who weren't good at it . But I needed that crazy

39:49

thing . Like I'll do anything

39:51

. I had $100 . I got

39:54

a job offer in Minneapolis in a comedy

39:56

club and then I packed my trash

39:58

bag and clothes , got on a bus with $100 , went

40:01

to the place and

40:04

, by the way , the only reason I got a job offer was because a real comedian

40:07

from Minneapolis would come down to the University of Iowa or

40:09

I would open up for that and

40:11

my 15 friends that went to every show

40:13

we'd drink Everclear

40:16

punch , which is Everclear

40:18

and butter Gatorade . It's strong , but

40:20

my kids would get drunk . And then when

40:22

I did my set we'd all

40:24

get out and go party . And then the

40:26

club owner's like , yeah , maybe next

40:28

time you get your friends to stay for the

40:31

real comedians and if you still

40:33

want them to stay , then I'll

40:35

give you a job in Minneapolis , this comedy

40:38

club . And I'm like , well then , we're staying , that's

40:40

it . So when that happens we stay

40:42

for them . I

40:44

get on a bus , I go up , I

40:47

land at the comedy club the comedy cabaret

40:49

, it was called . I go to the front door , I

40:51

say I meet the guy . He said , listen , I'm

40:53

here for my job . I don't

40:56

have a car or a driver's license , so

40:58

I'm actually somewhere very close

41:00

to here . And he's like , whoa , you

41:02

moved here , I go , yeah . Yeah . He said I had a job

41:04

. He goes , you have a job for

41:06

one weekend , opening up

41:09

for $17.50

41:11

. I go . Well , then I got to get

41:13

another job . So I walked through this bar

41:15

, this pub , this huge , got a job

41:17

as a bouncer and a bar back and

41:19

met a waitress who was looking for a roommate for

41:21

a hundred bucks and what . And

41:24

that was just it . And then every

41:26

you know I worked real jobs

41:28

. But then every comedy thing you

41:30

know I'd sleep on people's couches , go for

41:32

nothing . Do all this because

41:34

I really loved it . I really thought

41:36

this is going to lead to whatever

41:39

you know it leads to . I

41:41

just wanted to be on TV one time because

41:43

I thought if I'm on TV one time everyone

41:45

in my hometown will love it . And it turns

41:47

out that's not true . But

41:51

you've got to have that craziness to

41:53

keep you in it , because it makes no sense . Nobody's going

41:55

to tell Lyle he's on TV . Nobody

41:58

went to be a comedian

42:00

. That's just not what we

42:03

do . But from the early age I do

42:05

, I'm going to do this thing . And

42:07

you get lucky , you get in

42:09

the right position and

42:12

what I thought I was going to do , that evolved . I

42:14

thought , well , I'm going to be a stand up comedian

42:17

. And then back in 1983

42:19

, when I was 23 , roseanne

42:22

, who was a very good comedian , not

42:24

famous yet , and she came to the club owners at

42:26

the comedy gallery and said I saw this woman at Denver

42:28

. You guys are going to hit it off a bunch of work

42:30

together this weekend . And we did and

42:32

uh , we uh , borrowed the mc's

42:35

car and never came back . But

42:39

she , she was a very good comedian

42:41

and and uh , the trick I

42:43

think with men is we know we're

42:45

good looking , but if you tell us we're funny , like

42:48

you got us , got us forever . But

42:50

he said I was funny and then she asked

42:52

me to write some jokes for her , for

42:54

her act . And a couple years

42:56

later in 1985 , she

42:58

went on the Johnny Carson show and I was watching back

43:00

and she did a

43:02

couple jokes I'd written and

43:05

she killed and I thought that's a good feeling

43:07

. So I came out to LA , did

43:09

an HBO special with her , played

43:14

her dream husband shockingly in her hbo , and then it came time to

43:16

her tv show , said first of

43:18

all , she said I want you to play the husband . I'm

43:20

like I haven't really acted , but I'll come out , I'll

43:22

see how that goes . And then went

43:24

out . We auditioned together , fortunately

43:27

, john goodman , so many shows , but you have

43:29

to write the show because you don't like character more than anybody

43:31

. I go , yeah , I'll do that . So I

43:35

went from writing some jokes to okay

43:37

, I was a comedian , now I'm a writer . This is

43:39

what I'm going to do . I brought in half

43:42

of the staff

43:44

from medias from the Midwest I lived

43:46

with that I knew were very

43:48

funny and

43:50

I thought they were funny . They have a point of view . They

43:52

don't know how to write a script . I can teach them

43:55

. Here's how you write a script One act , two

43:57

acts , whatever . That's easy

43:59

. We can't teach people to be funny and

44:01

so that you know that it

44:03

was a lot of responsibility and

44:05

you know , especially to look out for her and

44:08

her you know point of view . It's her show

44:10

and people were not accepting

44:12

of it being her show . The older Hollywood

44:15

tights , and I'd be like , okay

44:17

, well then you got to go . I mean , you really , they'll

44:19

throw you out a window . It's her show , you

44:21

know , and

44:26

so that worked for , you know , six years . And the second

44:28

year the other writers were like dude , because

44:34

my dad and Rosanna and I were dating . They're like people know this , it's everywhere . You've got to be

44:36

on the show , you've got to act on the show . Let's write a character for you , artie Comet

44:39

. I go , okay , I guess I'm an actor now

44:41

. Then this happens

44:43

and I write and I get a job

44:46

in a movie or this or that . I

44:48

go , I guess I'm doing that . I

44:52

do a lot of things now . You know , I act

44:54

in movies and TV . I

44:57

do stand-up , which I've always loved . I

44:59

go , you know , side comic cons

45:01

. Again , I have four ex-wives and two little

45:03

kids . I have to do this . I give sobriety

45:06

speeches about sobriety

45:08

and mental health around the

45:10

country , which are very satisfying

45:12

, and so I'll do whatever . You

45:15

know , again , I've

45:17

been in court with this last nut for seven years and it's

45:19

not going to change . By the way , the

45:23

cops won't come anymore . You know she

45:25

swatted us , did all this stuff . But

45:27

well , she my ex

45:29

, the court really

45:31

respected court therapist

45:33

, psychologist , uh , looked at all

45:36

this stuff . It's all public record , it's crazy

45:38

and she said uh , this last

45:40

march , we were there . Uh well

45:42

, good , dude , she's not a psychopath

45:44

who wants to murder you , I go well , that

45:46

is good . She's

45:49

a sociopath who wants other people to worry

45:51

. She's a narcissistic sociopath

45:53

, I go well , what can I do about that

45:56

? She said nothing . I go well , what will

45:58

she do about it ? Nothing . But what

46:00

you do is you recognize patterns

46:02

. You can kind of see it coming Like something's

46:05

up and then she's out of

46:07

the house . You know , it's always

46:09

good . There's nothing I can do . I can protect my kids

46:12

, you know . I can talk to them about

46:14

stuff which my dad didn't do

46:16

. When I was a kid . My mom would show up , you

46:18

know , drunk inside the drugs , and fall

46:21

into the Christmas tree and dad would just

46:23

laugh because , you know , he thought

46:25

that's taking the high road . And I knew

46:27

that my mom wasn't a mom , like there was nothing

46:29

. She would say I'm not material . I don't know , I'll never tell

46:31

you . I loved it , but my sister was

46:33

a year younger . My mom was her

46:35

idol and my

46:38

sister . It affected my sister later in

46:40

life . A lot of it became the Queen of Meth , you

46:45

know , because she worshipped this woman . You know I moved in with my mom when I was 15

46:47

because I wanted to do drugs and drink and grow

46:50

my hair and have no rules . Like I

46:52

made that decision , like my dad had a lot of rules

46:54

and I knew immediately it was a

46:56

bad decision . But it's like this is what

46:58

I said I wanted to do , you know . And

47:00

I actually went and set myself up with my dad's

47:03

type . That's just stupid . Like I

47:05

go , let's go , and he's

47:07

like okay , okay , let me just try

47:09

. So he takes his fist and just a second , I just want

47:11

to measure something . He puts his

47:14

knuckle here , he goes , I'm just measuring

47:16

and this hurt . It's not all

47:18

so rough . I'm like that hurt

47:20

. The other shots were really going

47:22

to hurt . So I'm like , okay , let's not do this , but

47:26

you know we'll go through . And I

47:28

knew it was bad . But my sister , the first

47:30

drunks we ever , or the first time we got drunk

47:32

, was with our mother and

47:34

my sister worshipped her . Her life

47:36

was great until she was 14 . Great student

47:39

, great athlete , great , great . And

47:41

then she was with our mom . Our

47:44

mom's , like you , are my . We're going to be drinking buddies

47:46

, drug buddies . She says that you are my best friend and

47:48

I'm going to make you marry a guy 22

47:51

year old . Immediately

47:58

she drives her down to missouri and uh , and they makes them get married to this guy that you know

48:01

. She gave her choices . Hey , you can dump them , or I can have them arrested

48:03

, or you can marry him . And you're 14

48:05

, you think you're in love . You're dumb ass , you're

48:07

like I will bury him . So it was a

48:09

terrible thing . Her life was off

48:11

the rails . The guy beat her up and

48:13

when he died , I'd go get her . He

48:16

ended up dying in a mysterious fire

48:18

in his bed . This is true , it's

48:20

hard to tell . They didn't really investigate

48:22

it . Then my sister

48:24

was done . You can't go back to junior high

48:26

if you've been married . My

48:30

sister was like I've got to make something of

48:32

this . I'm smart , this drug

48:34

you know my mom's low level , whatever

48:37

her bullshit , I'm going to do it and I'm

48:39

going to make it a real business and do it very

48:41

big . And so that's

48:43

what she did . And she , her next husband

48:45

was a biker , president of the grip

48:48

reapers , the grinding rapers . We called them grip

48:50

reapers motorcycle . He hated me

48:52

. I did not like him either . I

48:54

thought I was preppy , me and my buddies were preppy

48:56

. We'd come into their bar . I

48:58

wanted to enter the bar , you know , even

49:01

his biker buddies just wanted to , you

49:03

know . But you know she did

49:05

that . And the first time she went to prison

49:07

. You know the

49:18

documentary series is good because they have the da guys who were , who had hearts . You

49:20

know they actually liked my sister and they had a big one of the drug deals that she

49:22

did . She had , uh , there's three da's and she doesn't realize

49:24

that and uh , they're making this drug deal . There's a couple

49:26

hundred thousand dollars , a bunch of drugs and

49:28

my sister ravella takes her god and sets

49:31

it on the table . And they you see

49:33

them , look at each other . You know and

49:35

uh , uh , you know they're like okay

49:37

, what they'd asked to report . Are

49:39

you afraid to do these deals by yourself ? She was no

49:42

, it's such a good . That guy got

49:44

her 10 years of christian . That's a mandatory

49:46

minimum . You could negotiate the rest

49:48

of it . She went to prison and

49:50

I really blamed her husband , who ended

49:52

up dying in prison . He went to Fort

49:54

Leavenworth and died because he would not apologize . I

49:56

mean , he's like this guy , the

49:58

green gray , getting off . He would not apologize

50:00

for what he did . My sister apologized

50:03

and turned on some people for the Mexican

50:05

mafia that had given

50:07

her the product to to you know , build her underground

50:09

lab and tell her to create all this . And then she got out that had given her the product to build her underground lab and

50:11

tell her well , I'd create all this meth . And

50:14

then she got out and I got her

50:16

a job at Hormel . That was the best

50:18

job in town . Then

50:20

I got a call . She quit her job

50:22

. In essence , she's drinking , she's

50:24

not close to drinking and she

50:27

started dealing meth . But

50:31

if you stop right now we will bust

50:33

her . So I fly in , there

50:35

are seven kids in the family . I'm able to

50:37

get everybody together picture with our dad . You

50:42

know we take a picture with dad and

50:44

I walk out and I go , lori , I talk to

50:46

the sheriff , the DA guy . They know you're

50:48

dealing , but if you stop right

50:51

now you're not going to get busted . She

50:53

goes find your own fucking business

50:55

. And then she got busted again . And then

50:57

that husband , she had a new

50:59

husband and he died in prison . So she had two

51:01

husbands it is not

51:03

them , she's a mastermind

51:06

to this , but she's doing very well . She's driving

51:08

a forklift up in Ohio . Knock

51:10

on wood , got another big , giant biker husband

51:13

, but she's doing well

51:15

, man , and

51:20

you know two 10-year terms in prison I mean it's a rough thing , but you know there are consequences

51:23

to behavior and I hope she just keeps on

51:25

the straight and narrow , you know . Oh yeah

51:27

, oh yeah . But for the grace of God , that's

51:30

me , you

51:32

know , you know . Oh yeah , oh yeah , that's . But for the grace of god , that's me , you know . I put

51:34

it . The only reason I couldn't deal drugs didn't because I had to do so , there was no , I

51:36

never went to sleep with any extra drugs

51:38

. Sure , and you know , when I moved

51:40

to la and you get big

51:43

quantities of cocaine , reasonable

51:45

prices you know it was

51:47

a , it became a real deal . And

51:49

uh , I remember roseanne kid and said , do

51:52

you do this every day ? I go , yeah

51:54

, yeah , I do drink junk chat . She goes

51:56

, that's not good . I go , is it just ? I thought you only

51:58

did it every three months when we went on the road together

52:01

. I go no , no , it's an everyday thing . Well , that

52:03

can't , you can't . Okay . So at

52:05

that point , with those , I can't even realize I

52:08

can't do drugs in front of her or anybody . I'm'm

52:10

going to have to keep this secret . I didn't consider

52:13

quitting , but this

52:15

is going to be a secret . And then , you know , it escalated

52:18

, it got out of hand and in 89

52:20

, it went into rehab because she

52:22

lost like everybody did , and

52:24

so I'm very grateful about that

52:26

, I'm grateful to her , I'm

52:28

grateful about that . But you know

52:30

, it doesn't always work that way with people

52:32

. And now you know my

52:35

sister's like well , now , these drugs . People

52:37

die from taking a blood pill , which is true , I

52:40

think people die from that . Their lives are

52:42

certainly screwed up and

52:45

people were . There's a lot of crime

52:47

and etc . So

52:50

she's doing well

52:52

, and you know here

52:54

we are .

52:55

Well , and that was up through about I think

52:57

I read 89 . I graduated

53:00

in 84 . So I'm pretty

53:02

confident that some of my friends

53:05

probably did some of your sister's

53:07

drugs .

53:08

I'm almost positive . Yeah , she went

53:10

to prison the first time in the 91

53:12

, I believe and yeah , I

53:15

got her a very good lawyer and went

53:17

down and talked to the judge and said you know

53:19

, she's a mother , it's seven . I

53:22

hate her , you know , because they want to send her to

53:24

prison for life . Back then I said

53:26

you know , I know she needs to go to prison . Well

53:28

, maybe there's something we could do and give her

53:30

a chance . Give , give her a chance . And

53:33

this poor kid , her son

53:35

, was seven and all of a sudden

53:38

they had this big raid with the

53:40

helicopters and battery rams

53:42

Because they couldn't tell the local

53:44

police they were going to bust her . They had

53:46

to share this big bar with the underground lab Because

53:49

the local police , including my seventh stepfather

53:51

worked for her and

53:54

he was the chief of police he worked for Lori . That's

53:56

true . They had to come in hard the

53:58

best , and you know they took

54:00

the parents out . That was the last time he saw his parents

54:02

. For him , that was the last time he saw his father for

54:05

10 years . And his dad he never saw

54:07

again . His

54:12

dad went away and died in prison

54:14

. So we helped raise him and thank God this kid I mean he has never done

54:16

drugs , never drank . He's married to a nice

54:18

Jewish girl . He works four jobs

54:20

. He's a giant . Of

54:22

course he's got some issues . I'm

54:25

a little angry , but you know that's a

54:27

miracle . And the other kids it wasn't

54:29

just my sister went to prison , it was all the people that worked for

54:31

her , our

54:34

town , just a whole generation of parents gone and

54:36

grandparents are trying to raise these kids or

54:38

whoever . And a lot of them didn't

54:40

make it . A lot of them were right

54:43

back in the cycle . I tried to

54:45

employ as many of them as I could at the farm , trying

54:48

to give them some self-esteem . But if

54:51

you could not follow your

54:53

parents to prison , it's a success

54:56

. Where I'm from , I'm

54:59

sure your friends got drunk .

55:03

Now ? Do you still have roots

55:05

in Iowa Family ? Do

55:07

you go back and do things in

55:09

?

55:09

Iowa . I have my friends , guys

55:13

I grew up with . We're

55:16

still very close the guys in a belly on a jail

55:18

naked , no question about it . But

55:21

I go back . I go back

55:23

to Iowa football games , iowa basketball games

55:25

. I was close to the university , a

55:27

loyal Hawkeye fan

55:30

, and there's not as many people . My

55:32

stepmother died this fall . She was the last . I

55:34

am now officially the oldest person in

55:37

my family . You

55:40

do go back there and I

55:42

like to go back a couple days at a time and

55:45

see the old Hawks . My kids love it . My kids

55:47

say this is great , this is like Disneyland . Look at all

55:49

this . Look at that farm there . You can ride four-wheelers . Can we do I can't say this is great , this is like Disneyland

55:51

. Look at all this . Look at that farm there . Look at all this . You can ride four-wheelers

55:53

. Can we do that ? Yeah , you can do that . You

55:57

know it's just exciting for them to do nothing

55:59

and drive and drive , and drive . And you

56:02

know , stay in a little motel and do our thing

56:04

. You know they

56:06

take really good care of me back at the forget

56:09

which hotel it is and they give me two

56:13

rooms and the patient . Nobody bothers us . Let's

56:17

give the kids

56:19

. I

56:22

do like it and I do need to go

56:24

back there for myself , because I spent 23

56:26

years there . It's not like I grew

56:29

up in Iowa a little bit , then went to Hollywood no , no , that something like . I grew

56:31

up in Iowa a little bit , then went to Hollywood no , no , that's

56:33

where I grew up . There's

56:36

a lot of great things about it and there's a lot of things I care about

56:39

. Back there , it's

56:41

good to have . I

56:44

don't want to go back there forever . I'll tell you

56:46

what . It'd

56:49

be a lot cheaper . Yeah

56:52

well , you know , actually gas was

56:54

$2.99 . I was like what ? Let's get

56:56

it was taking out the drive back or whatever

56:59

.

56:59

Yeah , I filled it up yesterday

57:01

it was $2.99 . Yeah , it was

57:03

cheaper .

57:05

Yeah , that's funny with the gas prices . I'll get that down

57:07

. I say you know

57:09

gas prices kept up . You

57:11

stopped buying gas . You start with whatever you can Gas

57:14

bacon , eggs and if you

57:16

stop buying it then they go . Oh , we better lower

57:18

the prices . That's always

57:20

how it is . We're pumping more

57:23

gas and oil in this country

57:25

than any country ever . No

57:29

, joe Biden , is something you don't have to brag about

57:31

. We're pumping , we're doing more than

57:34

we ever have , than Trump in any place

57:36

ever has . So you know , I do like

57:38

the idea of splitting the difference between wind

57:41

energy , solar , what will work

57:43

. But you know , that's just

57:45

. And people , you know that Trump

57:48

and his guys are really good enough saying okay

57:50

, inflation is way down , the

57:52

stock market is working and it's a buy

57:54

Right . Cost more for eggs at

57:57

no , and that is true

57:59

. Well

58:04

, you gotta do . I see a lot of stores are lower right now because , yeah

58:06

, you're gonna stop . I mean this . Five , five guys . Hammers , holy shit , they're expensive , like

58:09

$150 . You know , with fast food holy shit

58:11

. They're expensive , like $150 . But they're good

58:13

. You know you can come with a fast food . You know I

58:16

don't . I try not to order fast food every day . You

58:20

know , as a single dad sometimes . Why

58:23

are they called Happy Meal ? Because they make

58:25

the kids happy , right

58:30

, what do we ? Got A toy in there , yeah

58:32

, so I try to split the difference . I

58:34

cook too , and I

58:36

never cook anything that I won't eat , because

58:39

I'll end up eating what they don't eat . I

58:41

have that weird thing with my dad it's

58:47

hard to stay in shape when you're afraid to throw away any food . I eventually will

58:49

sit there and go . I'm going to eat this because I don't want to throw

58:51

it away , and you know

58:53

it's hard . You've got to get some of your fat , is what

58:55

I'm telling you .

58:59

Let me ask you what kind of relationship

59:01

in terms of do you catch any heat

59:03

, either directly or indirectly

59:06

, from Trump these days ?

59:09

Well , you know he was with

59:11

Michael Cohen . My goal was

59:13

anything

59:15

for him not to be president , to

59:19

get my friends and the friends put out all

59:21

those awful . They

59:25

were funny until he's running

59:27

for president . Now they're not On

59:30

the best-selling sports show by a clip producer . Sports

59:33

clip producers are genius . They

59:35

can put shit together . His brother was

59:37

the executive producer of

59:39

the Apprentice , the guy that talked to Trump more than

59:41

anyone before every take , after

59:44

every take . And you know the Apprentice is

59:46

a game show and in this country

59:48

it's a federal law because we had a game show scandal

59:50

in the 50s . So legally

59:53

, if you're the host or the star of a game

59:55

show , you have to be filmed from the

59:57

second you get there until the

59:59

second you leave . So they know you're not

1:00:01

influencing

1:00:04

your face , Because that's

1:00:06

what you have to have and you have to save

1:00:08

that footage forever

1:00:10

. Anytime the show syndicates they're legally required to have it . And you have to save that footage forever . Anytime

1:00:12

the show syndicates , they're legally required to have all

1:00:14

of that footage , the outtakes of this , that

1:00:17

to even sell the show

1:00:19

, that never leaves the show . So you

1:00:22

know there's a lot of stuff and there have

1:00:24

been outtakes of me from my best-seller

1:00:27

sports show and stuff that people saw I

1:00:29

would never get elected president . Disgusting

1:00:32

things , best-selling sports show , stuff that people saw I would never get elected president . Like they'd say you know these

1:00:34

disgusting things , you know , and you

1:00:37

know people , you know , and it's hilarious

1:00:39

, but so with him , yeah , I thought that's

1:00:42

, that's not acceptable . I

1:00:44

tried to get those executive producers to step

1:00:46

up , tried to figure out a way to get

1:00:48

me that page-settling scene , and you know it was

1:00:50

trying to figure out a way to begin the page-to-page

1:00:52

scene and you know it was . Anytime you get

1:00:54

involved in politics before you

1:00:57

know , in my business people say everybody's

1:00:59

liberal , everybody's not liberal . There are a lot of conservatives

1:01:01

, a lot of Republicans

1:01:04

, a lot of people that have a lot

1:01:06

of money and support

1:01:08

, you know , and they got behind Donald Trump too

1:01:10

because they're like he is going to make us more money

1:01:13

. I'm Jewish . A lot of Jews got behind him . Oh

1:01:15

, he's going to make us more money , and that

1:01:17

is true . But you know you have to

1:01:19

. At a certain point you go . Well , what , where

1:01:21

does that lead ? Because he's going to this

1:01:26

. Next time he'll crash the economy . He doesn't want to . He has all this weird

1:01:29

stuff about , you know , isolating

1:01:31

America and stuff . Right , it

1:01:33

just won't . You know

1:01:35

, it just will make things terrible

1:01:38

. He's got a lot . He's got the really terrible people

1:01:40

at this time . He had some really good people at the last

1:01:42

time . They're like whoa , that's not

1:01:44

. Hey , let me talk him down a

1:01:46

little bit , but this time , a lot of people

1:01:49

time . I think that I

1:01:51

have a responsibility in democracy

1:01:53

. It takes some work . It

1:01:55

takes work to get it started . It

1:01:58

is my responsibility , especially as a dad

1:02:00

with young kids , to , if

1:02:02

I see something , say something Because

1:02:05

it will matter . It will matter to my kids more

1:02:07

. I'm sure I'm not trustless . It's

1:02:12

funny because as I get ready to do

1:02:14

the Trump stuff , I realize , well , that's a guy I've got

1:02:16

to get to flip on Trump . So I go out

1:02:18

to New York and run into him . I

1:02:21

knew what hotel he was at and this is before he flipped

1:02:23

and I'm like you've

1:02:25

got to flip on Trump . He's terrible . He

1:02:28

doesn't like you . It's

1:02:31

a bad . You've got to do it hard . You've got to pull the bandaid off . I

1:02:34

literally stayed there until he did

1:02:36

. He got out of the elevator . I'd be there

1:02:39

. He was in on it

1:02:41

. We posted pictures

1:02:43

together , as you can see in this

1:02:45

trial . Trump

1:02:47

was seeing the pictures and saying what

1:02:50

are you doing , man ? He hates Tom Ireland . Why

1:02:53

are you with him ? He's the most

1:02:55

powerful man in the world and you're messing with him . But

1:02:58

you know I'm not . You

1:03:01

know everything I say about Trump

1:03:03

he knows is true or his family

1:03:05

you know , so

1:03:07

he's . Uh , I

1:03:10

got a video of him slapping me doing pretty funny one . So you know he's . I

1:03:12

got a video of him slapping me . It was pretty funny one time . But you know

1:03:14

I have nothing , I'm not . The only

1:03:16

thing I fear is that bad things

1:03:18

are going to happen to my country

1:03:20

and my

1:03:23

kids in the future because of him

1:03:25

. And

1:03:30

so you know we got to . You know , like I said , I've never been this

1:03:32

political . I supported Tom Harkin , who's a great senator from Iowa , a

1:03:34

Democrat , a president in 1992 . Rosanna

1:03:37

and I did . Rosanna I supported in the Clinton administration in our

1:03:39

house . Now she apparently faced

1:03:41

their criminals . But you know

1:03:44

you do that stuff for issues , issues

1:03:46

. What is this issue ? Is this going

1:03:48

to be good ? Do they support unions ? Do

1:03:50

they support insurance

1:03:52

for people that have pre-existing

1:03:55

conditions ? Whatever the basic

1:03:57

things . School lunch

1:03:59

there's

1:04:01

a lot of kids that don't have lunch at school and

1:04:04

support that stuff . I

1:04:06

always depend on the Republicans to

1:04:09

kind of keep the fiscal not out of control . When I grew up in Iowa , democrats , I always depended

1:04:11

on the Republicans to support . You know , kind of keep the fiscal . You know , get that lot . If you're a Senate you've got

1:04:13

to get out of control . And when I grew up in Iowa

1:04:15

Democrats , you know the social

1:04:17

stuff and then you had these great Republicans

1:04:20

and then you met the middle and when I was in high

1:04:22

school , what we did was

1:04:24

we went our domain coach would

1:04:26

be like you're Democrats , you're Republicans , let's

1:04:29

go to the Iowa State Capitol and we'll

1:04:31

pass the bill . So we all went in . That's

1:04:33

how you did it . You worked together , you worked

1:04:35

on top of ice and we had

1:04:37

some great Republican

1:04:39

governors . Robert Ray was great

1:04:42

, different people . So

1:04:45

that's you . My dad was Republican , everybody you know . So

1:04:48

that was the old way and now

1:04:50

it's not that

1:04:53

way , and you know . So

1:04:57

I am . You know . I think people

1:04:59

like me have to continue speaking up

1:05:01

. I'm doing research . My friend Lauren

1:05:03

Winzer , who goes on oh yes , she

1:05:08

went into the Supreme Court . You

1:05:11

know you got to expose stuff

1:05:13

, you got to be see transparency , and

1:05:15

a lot of these people don't care . They're

1:05:17

like I'm going to just say this stuff out

1:05:19

loud , right , it's pretty shocking

1:05:21

. So

1:05:33

I depend on great journalists in this country to write great stories , to tell the truth to you know , trump's got a thing where he's like liberal media , liberal Me Too

1:05:35

media they're all liars . He asks if it's

1:05:37

people , they're all liars and they're all people they can listen

1:05:39

to . Where do you get

1:05:41

your news ? Research , the internet

1:05:43

? You know nothing to make a comparison

1:05:46

it's the worst comparisons , the

1:05:51

saving pedophiles that died by Superman

1:05:53

Having that

1:05:55

new Jeffrey Epstein better than anybody

1:05:58

period . They hung out

1:06:00

with him at parties , with Young World

1:06:02

and him and Lou Lovat

1:06:04

. You could see the videos of it and

1:06:07

you know , but somehow

1:06:09

they're like well , we want to see the Epstein tapes and stuff . You know

1:06:11

who flew on his like . Well , we want to see the FC teams to stop . You know who

1:06:14

flew on his plane , the truck plane . I didn't fly on his plane

1:06:16

. Yeah , he did fly on his plane . They say he's better

1:06:18

, that's enough . Perfect . I

1:06:21

never flew on his plane and I thought just

1:06:23

probably would have . He's like hey , you want a free

1:06:25

flight . I didn't know that much about him . I , I didn't know

1:06:28

that much about him . I bet him Right . I'm sure I don't think he might have ever

1:06:30

gotten to save the world yet , but

1:06:32

that's just . You know , we

1:06:34

all learn a little bit . And just the fact that

1:06:36

you know he represents all of

1:06:38

this , you know the worst of the

1:06:40

worst . And I do get

1:06:43

why people say

1:06:45

they're . Oh , he's because , like

1:06:47

Roseanne said , when he

1:06:49

said Rosie O'Donnell was like that

1:06:51

big and I said you got to

1:06:53

defend her , rosie O'Donnell , and

1:06:56

she said , well , he never called me big

1:06:58

Like that is the thinking

1:07:00

. There'll be a black guy that thinks well , he never

1:07:02

called me the N-word , he never called me that you

1:07:06

think you're the one person and

1:07:08

you're not . That's why he is

1:07:10

very good about massaging that part of

1:07:13

your ego . That's

1:07:15

how he raised his kids Really shitty to

1:07:17

him . One of his kids had a drug

1:07:20

and alcohol problem , got arrested Trump

1:07:22

kicked out of the family . And who took

1:07:24

care of him ? Me and my friends Took

1:07:27

care of him . I would tell him listen , man , your

1:07:29

dad's an asshole , but he's like that old school thinking

1:07:32

where you know drugs . The best thing he can do

1:07:34

is you know he doesn't know how the real

1:07:36

story of this happened . I'm sure eventually

1:07:39

he'll be back , yet you know , but

1:07:41

you got to take care of yourself first and

1:07:43

so you know . That's what good

1:07:45

people do , and

1:07:47

so I don't know , I don't

1:07:51

know . You've got to believe that he is

1:07:53

Jesus Christ , to

1:07:57

not look at everything else around him Like

1:07:59

it has to be something to do with

1:08:01

God , because otherwise it makes no sense

1:08:03

to be a guy . That's , you

1:08:05

know , so disgusting Right

1:08:07

.

1:08:14

Well , one reason I among many that I wanted to have you

1:08:16

on and you mentioned Lauren Windsor , who I'd love to have on the show as

1:08:18

well . You and Lauren have

1:08:21

put your neck out there

1:08:23

and see . That's what

1:08:25

I mean . There are some

1:08:27

people who are willing to talk

1:08:29

in their private circles

1:08:31

about Trump , but there are too

1:08:34

few people like you and

1:08:36

Lauren Windsor who come

1:08:38

out publicly and relentlessly

1:08:42

and just keep hammering home

1:08:45

these important points , and

1:08:47

we need more of that . Do

1:08:50

you see between now and November , do

1:08:52

you see anyone else in the Hollywood

1:08:54

industry doing

1:08:56

that , like De Niro ?

1:08:58

yourself . You know De Niro , I love

1:09:00

him . How do you ? He's like 80

1:09:02

years old out there and you

1:09:04

know some people love

1:09:06

business , or hey , let's not talk politics

1:09:08

, let's not . He doesn't give . He knows

1:09:11

who Trump is . He is nobody's more New York

1:09:13

than Robert De Niro and he's not going to stop

1:09:15

. And it's Robert De Niro , so you really can't

1:09:17

go . Well , this hat whatever . I mean Trump

1:09:19

, yeah , right , but

1:09:22

maybe the most respected actor

1:09:24

of my life , and

1:09:27

he's putting it out there Like he's

1:09:29

, you know , and what

1:09:31

I need is that people , younger

1:09:33

guys , that worship him and work

1:09:35

with him , that allow him to also

1:09:37

step up . People need to also step up . I get

1:09:39

it . It's

1:09:41

hard . There's so much chaos , it's traumatizing

1:09:44

. Turn on the TV , turn on this , and

1:09:46

it's getting worse . Fox

1:09:48

News is getting worse . They're all in

1:09:50

. They're going to criticize

1:09:52

Joe Biden all day and not

1:09:54

say a bad thing about Trump . They're

1:09:56

all in . This is their deal . I hope they go

1:09:58

out and slip too . I assume that after

1:10:00

this election , if

1:10:03

Trump loses , they will sell boxes .

1:10:05

Yes , we have to

1:10:07

make sure that happens .

1:10:09

There are a lot of people that only care about money out

1:10:12

there . They don't have any . If they really

1:10:14

cared about money , they'd have a little bit of foresight

1:10:17

to go . Well , what's that

1:10:19

going to happen after ? How will that be financially

1:10:22

after this guy burns everything

1:10:24

down ? You have to look at that

1:10:26

. And more people have to

1:10:28

step up . They're being like Jeffrey Kastenberg

1:10:31

, who is a studio owner

1:10:33

. He's up here and sometimes

1:10:37

those guys don't want to do that . He is

1:10:39

really taking it on . He's with the Biden campaign

1:10:41

all the time . He's very smart . He's

1:10:43

smart about communications

1:10:46

and you know video

1:10:48

stuff and he's rounded people

1:10:50

up . There's a big guy over in Sene

1:10:52

that I don't hear that you're including

1:10:54

. A bunch of people are doing a thing . I think Brock's

1:10:57

coming , but

1:10:59

he Jeff Casper organized

1:11:01

that and he's staying on it . See

1:11:03

, a lot of times those guys are like well , I've done it before

1:11:06

in the 80s or 90s , I'm not going to , but

1:11:08

this guy is . I was reading about

1:11:10

what he's up to in the Air Cups . He's a

1:11:12

great guy and he's very

1:11:15

, extremely powerful in

1:11:18

our business . This slide I got

1:11:20

into with Mark Burnett . It was a Jeffrey

1:11:22

Gass print party , which

1:11:25

is the all the stars in there . And

1:11:28

you know , first they were like they're going to kick

1:11:30

me out . I go , well , they better kick his ass out and

1:11:32

let me know , because I'm going to be waiting for him to

1:11:34

finish this shit up . I thought

1:11:36

it was a man-capped story . Okay , tom , you go back

1:11:38

. But here's the thing If you see him

1:11:40

, don't throw down on him . I

1:11:42

won't see , I won't . He

1:11:44

started it and just was . So

1:11:46

you know the game back

1:11:49

in that party , spent the rest of the night at that party . It was

1:11:51

the best party I've ever been to . Everybody's

1:11:53

like what the fuck ? I said

1:11:55

what up , you

1:11:59

know , and it was great . But you

1:12:01

know people like that and I think there

1:12:03

are , you know , a

1:12:05

lot of reasonable people . I

1:12:07

will be . I'm always happy

1:12:09

with the Jews , my fellow Jews . This

1:12:12

is just . You know why

1:12:14

move the embassy or whatever , you

1:12:17

know , which is a complicated thing . And also

1:12:19

he brought the evangelicals with

1:12:21

him , by the way . Evangelicals , I

1:12:23

have more power to them . Why evangelicals ? But

1:12:25

here's the thing they say they love Jews

1:12:28

. They don't love Jews . They love Israel , the

1:12:30

land , israel , and what I'm told

1:12:32

in the rapture , this thing they believe is

1:12:35

that Jesus comes back . We . Jesus

1:12:37

was a great Jew , you

1:12:39

us . It's not God . He's like one of the

1:12:41

best human beings of all . Time he

1:12:43

comes back and what ends up happening to the

1:12:45

Jews is they need a bunch of

1:12:48

incense and then we get incinerated . If

1:12:50

we don't convert to Christianity , we get

1:12:52

incinerated . So

1:12:54

their plan is to incinerate all of

1:12:56

us . Those are trespass buddies

1:12:59

. Now , I don't believe in the rapture , but you

1:13:02

know these guys do . Anybody who believes

1:13:04

in the rapture should not be in politics

1:13:06

. Jesus comes

1:13:08

down , incinerates everybody

1:13:11

. That's what so

1:13:13

you know you

1:13:16

shouldn't be . Your long-term

1:13:18

thinking is , you know you don't care

1:13:21

. Well , this goes sideways with this war . Whatever

1:13:23

Jesus will come down and

1:13:25

I said to this and I can

1:13:27

promise you , jesus is not coming down Right

1:13:29

right . And things should happen

1:13:32

. There is a thing

1:13:34

I believe in the universe that is bigger

1:13:36

than me . Right , all of this

1:13:38

I didn't . You know you've got to think

1:13:41

that way , that you are not the

1:13:43

biggest shit and there's something more

1:13:45

powerful out there that has you

1:13:47

know . Otherwise it's a lot on your

1:13:49

shoulders . I

1:13:52

think Trump believes that he is that

1:13:54

guy . He doesn't

1:13:56

have any religion , or the Bible

1:13:58

or the Constitution . He's never read any of that . And

1:14:01

. I like when he's called out , he's like well , I

1:14:03

don't want to share my favorite Bible verse

1:14:05

, but if these lady

1:14:09

evangelicals really cared that

1:14:12

they say they care or live like Jesus , they

1:14:15

would not be when they care about

1:14:17

his power and controlling people

1:14:19

, controlling women , and

1:14:22

you know it's sad and people

1:14:24

are stopped . A lot of

1:14:26

young people don't get involved with organized religion

1:14:29

because it

1:14:31

worked for a long time saying okay , if you don't do this

1:14:33

, you're going to burn in hell . Like that was scary

1:14:35

. Some of you would be came up with that like we're losing

1:14:37

people , we need to stop . Some of you would be came up with that like we're losing people , we

1:14:39

need to . We're having to . And

1:14:43

now young people , you gotta . I

1:14:46

think these religious organizations

1:14:48

have a great service . You know

1:14:51

they're community centers and towns . It's

1:14:53

gotta be by . You

1:14:57

know you get by promotion

1:15:00

. You know like you get by promotion

1:15:02

. You know like you'd have to do this . It's

1:15:04

like you want people to go . I like what they do , like they are . You know they've

1:15:07

got some peace here and I

1:15:09

like what they do To sell young

1:15:12

people on this stuff . It's just

1:15:14

they're like yeah , I don't think that's . I

1:15:17

don't believe in that . I have a bigger worldview

1:15:19

, but you

1:15:22

know you need to attract people by doing attractive

1:15:24

things and say this

1:15:26

is how you'll feel better if you're part of our thing

1:15:29

.

1:15:30

I don't know Right . Well , speaking

1:15:32

of young people and doing

1:15:34

the right thing , you've

1:15:36

been involved in a lot of charity work

1:15:38

and I

1:15:41

know one I believe it's called Miracle

1:15:43

on First Street , which

1:15:45

was providing

1:15:47

toys and other

1:15:49

services to children

1:15:52

who were in some unfortunate

1:15:54

situation and this

1:15:56

was something about Arnold day one , I

1:15:59

guess , 35 years ago .

1:16:00

He's always been . You've got to be observant

1:16:03

. By the way , nobody loves this country more than Arnold . It's

1:16:05

just a fact . He loves . He's

1:16:08

an immigrant from Austria

1:16:11

, he loves America . Like being

1:16:14

in Washington DC with him and him going

1:16:16

out and looking at the monument is so annoying

1:16:18

. There's a Lincoln Memorial of Memorials

1:16:21

there . He loves this country

1:16:24

. He never nothing , every dream he's ever

1:16:26

had has come true . But he always

1:16:28

stressed you've got to be of service , you've got to be of service , you've got

1:16:30

to . You know . So the miracle of First

1:16:32

Street , something we've done for 30

1:16:34

years and we give

1:16:36

out 10,000 gifts to

1:16:39

kids that live

1:16:41

in South Central LA that

1:16:43

don't get it yet . It's this way , they'll get

1:16:45

it . And the police we

1:16:47

work with the Halibut Police Division

1:16:50

out there they wrap all the gifts . It's

1:16:52

hard to let you out and do the you

1:16:54

know with Santa and

1:16:56

do the thing , but it's really been a great

1:16:59

thing to see . You

1:17:04

know , we had Mayor Birgosa was our mayor of

1:17:06

LA , anthony Birgosa , and

1:17:09

he came down there with us . There's always politicians there with all parties

1:17:12

and that was

1:17:14

where he got his Christmas gift , at

1:17:16

the Hall of Back in the

1:17:18

day , like that was just

1:17:20

one gift . And you see , these kids , people light

1:17:22

up a couple days before and

1:17:25

you know it's just a great feeling . We

1:17:28

give them gifts . And you know

1:17:30

, thanksgiving we have everybody turkey dinners

1:17:32

. You know I make my kids come

1:17:34

down . They like coming down to

1:17:36

see what this is about giving back

1:17:39

and that's just what he did and Arnold's

1:17:41

done that . You know he's given hundreds of

1:17:43

millions of dollars . He's got the After School

1:17:45

All-Stars that I help with . It's

1:17:47

an amazing organization for kids that are

1:17:49

at-risk , kids in the inner city

1:17:52

that you know would never get an education

1:17:54

otherwise and he just pays it forward

1:17:56

. And you know his ex-wife and her family . You

1:17:59

know I think that was one of the big attractions

1:18:01

with Arnold and Maria Because

1:18:03

you know , first of all , her family is very loving and

1:18:05

he didn't necessarily have that . His

1:18:07

dad was a drunken Nazi and

1:18:09

his mom , you know , because that war

1:18:12

very , very cold

1:18:15

. You know , and he sees Maria's family . He's like these guys are

1:18:17

loving on each other and all

1:18:19

this stuff . I want in on this . And

1:18:21

you know her father-in-law

1:18:23

started the Peace Corps and

1:18:26

his mother-in-law , who was

1:18:28

a character , started

1:18:30

the Special Olympics and this is

1:18:32

what these guys did , and they

1:18:35

really did it . They really were involved . I mean

1:18:37

, I got to meet a Special

1:18:39

Olympics ambassador , or whatever you call it for the National did it . They really were involved . I mean

1:18:41

, I got to meet a special Olympic ambassador , or whatever you'd call it , for the national which

1:18:44

are held in Iowa . So

1:18:46

I was with her all the time and

1:18:49

she weighed about 80 pounds . She had a 400

1:18:52

pounds . She'd get

1:18:54

in and from the early days when

1:18:57

they started , all

1:18:59

her grandkids had to be involved with

1:19:01

it too . You know , all those kids , all the other kids , and

1:19:05

they had a big pool out there at their house and

1:19:07

the kids would go out there to swim and

1:19:09

if one of the grandkids wasn't doing it right , wasn't

1:19:12

teaching it , she'd strip off and jump

1:19:14

in there . You know , these

1:19:16

people are true and

1:19:19

true , you know , and

1:19:21

there could be no more heroes . I know

1:19:23

that JFK and RK

1:19:26

are heroes , but Univ Shriver went

1:19:28

to JFK and said we're starting

1:19:30

this special living . So he was like , well , I can't , no

1:19:32

, you are doing this , this

1:19:35

is why I'm going to raise a hell , I'm going to

1:19:37

raise a cow . He's like , oh my God , we have

1:19:39

to do this thing Because these intellectually

1:19:42

underdeveloped

1:19:44

kids are not getting any respect anywhere One

1:19:48

of the things I did too with the US . So

1:19:50

I went over to Okinawa . I went over

1:19:52

to Japan and Okinawa , the islands , to

1:19:55

see the troops entertain . They

1:19:57

had like five bird games . I

1:20:00

gave , like you

1:20:04

do , all the cool stuff , but also they were having the first ever Special

1:20:06

Olympics there and people , the

1:20:08

Asian countries specifically , that

1:20:11

you know , they kind of did

1:20:13

not want , you know

1:20:15

that to be seen as something and

1:20:18

it was a very cool thing

1:20:20

. You know people from there

1:20:23

, from Japan , and the

1:20:25

athletes from there , and

1:20:28

it took a long time to get it where

1:20:30

they'd be . Like I'm bored of this and

1:20:32

it was very that's what this

1:20:35

family does . They do this

1:20:37

. And then you know San Diego's

1:20:39

, like they have to go out and support

1:20:41

it . It's a wonderful thing .

1:20:44

And that has to be , I

1:20:46

would think , one of the cooler things about

1:20:48

your success . You

1:20:51

know , the money , of course , is always nice , but

1:20:54

just what it's allowed you to

1:20:56

connect with in terms of other

1:21:00

people that we've

1:21:02

read about and known about and

1:21:04

that are , some of

1:21:06

them , kind of the hero status , as

1:21:08

you said , and not

1:21:11

only to meet them but

1:21:14

to be working with them , and

1:21:17

I'm guessing sometimes you just have to say

1:21:19

, wow , I really have

1:21:21

done well .

1:21:23

It is . You know when I was

1:21:25

sitting with Arnold , you

1:21:28

know when we started acting last

1:21:30

week or whatever up in Toronto . You

1:21:32

know you could tell immediately how close we are

1:21:34

, immediately the chemistry

1:21:36

. They have other good actors there but

1:21:39

you can just see we're back where

1:21:41

we've always been . We're doing this thing . He

1:21:43

has to basically schnitzel for lunch . We

1:21:46

sit outside of his trailer

1:21:48

. We spoke to Stogie . He makes some

1:21:50

videos for my kids and

1:21:53

I really thought I like this feeling

1:21:55

and I think when you get in a chaotic

1:21:57

kind of a situation

1:22:00

with a kid's

1:22:02

mom that had for seven years

1:22:04

, you forget . First of all , your circle

1:22:07

gets very small because you're like I need

1:22:09

to be on point for these kids and

1:22:11

nobody wants to hear about this . I

1:22:15

do recommend getting . I got a couple

1:22:17

of single moms who are just killed . They

1:22:20

give me good advice you need to have a mom

1:22:22

at school like a school , a school wife .

1:22:24

Yes .

1:22:25

Because all of a sudden you're cut out of all this stuff . They'll

1:22:28

say it's crazy hair day or it's teacher's

1:22:30

birthday , we'll put it together . So I know a lot

1:22:32

of great moms and I know a lot of great single

1:22:34

dads too , that I I

1:22:37

didn't realize there were so many single dads that

1:22:39

are killing it , that have been in

1:22:41

similar situations . Now theirs

1:22:44

may be better now , but you know

1:22:46

, you reach out and you realize , oh

1:22:51

, these people are . Yeah , it's not just what I'm dealing with , but you know my

1:22:53

job every day and I feel like this I've had some health issues

1:22:55

which , I knock

1:22:57

on wood , I've recovered from , but you know

1:23:00

my job . Every day that I'm alive is one day

1:23:02

more that my kids have

1:23:04

this great parent

1:23:07

in their life you know , it's

1:23:09

so busy for me . I get most of myself

1:23:11

seen from this . I

1:23:14

make mistakes , I do this . I get

1:23:17

you know , all this may be a better father . Don't tell her that , because

1:23:19

I think nothing for granted every day . You know all this gas may be a better father . Don't tell her

1:23:21

that , because I take nothing for

1:23:23

granted Every day , you know . And I

1:23:25

have to compensate . But

1:23:27

I , you know , you get a little wall of

1:23:29

protection . If she does something , shows

1:23:31

up and gives her I think Bob's outside I

1:23:34

do say you know , if she does something , I

1:23:37

do take a moment and go , that

1:23:39

wasn't okay . My dad never did that . I go . That

1:23:41

wasn't okay . I don't treat people like that

1:23:43

. I want you to treat people like that and then we move

1:23:45

on Because it is a response . You're predestined

1:23:47

to love them . Oh , my son reported

1:23:49

what . This kid loves me unconditionally . That's

1:23:51

why I've always looked for a marriage . You know

1:23:53

, get a marriage and

1:23:56

he loves me . If I was a shit dad , he would love me

1:23:59

. So I'd like to be the best dad I can , I

1:24:01

think , being of service . I have a heart cap

1:24:03

Last 22 years can't have no cortisol

1:24:05

Biggest heart cap in America for cancer

1:24:08

, heart defects , heart disease , and

1:24:10

I get so much self-esteem

1:24:12

out of that . And

1:24:16

not only that , but it saved my life . I didn't know I had heart disease

1:24:18

or heart failure until I got out of the camp , until I didn't know I had

1:24:20

heart disease or heart failure until I got out of the camp , until they handed

1:24:22

out the cancer A pediatric cardiologist one day . I weighed about 320

1:24:25

pounds . I was like I was panting . You

1:24:27

know I'm in the med tent with

1:24:29

all the nurses who I love . All

1:24:31

were counselors and volunteers , you bet . And

1:24:33

a new pediatric cardiologist looked at me and goes

1:24:35

whoa , have you ever had your heart tested

1:24:37

? And

1:24:40

I'm like my heart buddy , my heart's off . It is so

1:24:42

fast and so loud . It sounds like someone's

1:24:44

beating on the cabin right now . Just

1:24:47

take care of the kiddos . It's

1:24:50

not bad to use the LHR . We want to do this test

1:24:52

with you , and so I did and they

1:24:54

gave me and I immediately . They

1:24:56

went right into the surgery and put a stance

1:24:59

in me and you

1:25:01

know it saved my life , and

1:25:03

so it's a very selfish

1:25:05

thing . Plus

1:25:09

, these kids inspire . No matter what health issues I've

1:25:11

had , I had organ failure four years ago early

1:25:13

in COVID and a blood penny stroke two years

1:25:15

ago and this last year

1:25:18

I've had a couple pretty big cancer surgeries

1:25:20

and complications with the infection , but

1:25:23

these kids live with it . You know , at one

1:25:25

time during 2010

1:25:27

, I went into a phone Like I had something

1:25:30

blew up inside me . Yeah , I woke

1:25:32

up after three weeks and you lose

1:25:34

a lot of weight . Oh , there's what I

1:25:37

looked down , the doctor showed me well , this is what you're

1:25:39

buying . It's

1:25:41

like , you know , it's the open wound that I had to have a wound

1:25:43

back on for a year . It's got out the dead

1:25:46

stuff for six months and

1:25:48

then he goes down to New York's White Science

1:25:50

and I have no philosophy

1:25:52

there are a lot of . I go , oh

1:25:55

, okay , I got to finish this , but

1:25:57

I thought let me tell you

1:26:00

you're lucky because , uh , it's not

1:26:02

permanent , it's 90 days . And

1:26:04

uh , uh , I'm like okay , and

1:26:06

then he told me later he told me it would only be 90

1:26:08

days because he thought I could suppress

1:26:10

. You know , what I found out is

1:26:13

this wound , this giant , has

1:26:15

to look different and

1:26:18

and to get this taken

1:26:20

down . So I had

1:26:22

to print a picture of that , how that wound was supposed

1:26:24

to look , because it wasn't healers . I

1:26:26

put it on my mirror and every day it just kind of manifests

1:26:29

that . And 90 days I

1:26:31

went in , they took my

1:26:34

philosophy down and

1:26:37

I prayed for that . And , by the way , before

1:26:39

that even happened , there's kids in my heart

1:26:41

care who have always had , he

1:26:44

told me , and are swimming

1:26:47

and he just , I had

1:26:49

no idea it doesn't bother them , that's

1:26:51

just the way it is . I know a lot of people

1:26:53

that live with it . Anyway , he took it down and

1:26:56

then I got , I prayed in the way of the hospital

1:26:58

. Please , please , please be able to

1:27:00

take this down . But I didn't

1:27:02

pray , please make sure I don't get MRSA

1:27:04

during the surgery and

1:27:08

my , I had no love handles for a moment . Like

1:27:10

I looked at my body and I was like this

1:27:12

is awesome , it's , you know , cut

1:27:14

here . I still don't have a belly button . My

1:27:16

kids are like are you with me ? But

1:27:21

I said two days in , they're like your pedicure's out three days . Okay , you got her

1:27:24

. So my dad told me to back up . I go what

1:27:26

about the plastic ? No , it'll

1:27:28

stay now . So you know

1:27:30

, there's always some kind of weird complications . But

1:27:33

when I see these kids , they're just

1:27:35

four years old and

1:27:37

they have . I'm

1:27:39

trying to be as efficiently important

1:27:42

now . But they're

1:27:44

not . They're like let's get into . You

1:27:47

know where you have our cafe down at the

1:27:49

Adelaide Island , let's dive in the water . Like

1:27:51

they're not going . Oh well , let's

1:27:53

see . You know , they just do it , they live

1:27:55

the life . And you know my kids have

1:27:57

had two heart transplants . They're

1:28:00

out there at the camp this year In fact the camp

1:28:02

this year that's in August and

1:28:04

the kids at the camp this year would

1:28:08

not have been alive 20 years ago when I started . Because

1:28:11

it's the advancement in the you

1:28:13

know these brilliant doctors do in utero

1:28:17

heart surgery and the devices that we have

1:28:19

now they can put in their bodies . And

1:28:21

I went down this last

1:28:23

at our gala we entered a guy that invented

1:28:26

a heart valve that

1:28:28

you don't have to crack your chest open . It

1:28:30

goes into the pubic area where your stents

1:28:33

go in . And I will say this you

1:28:35

can pre-shave but there's still a bit of shaving . True Waves

1:28:41

out and then it opens up and

1:28:43

because I assume what he sees I'm going to have

1:28:45

to have that Earl's had a couple and what

1:28:47

a much better way to get

1:28:49

it than cracking your chest

1:28:51

and going in and just the innovation

1:28:54

that's going on . And there's kids at

1:28:56

the camp that have these that way and

1:28:59

you know it just inspires you . There's kids at the

1:29:01

camp that have these that way . You

1:29:03

know it's just inspiring . And the kids a lot of them , if they knock on wood , you

1:29:05

know go to camp every year from

1:29:07

9 to 7 and 17 . They come

1:29:10

back and want to be counselors or they want to get in

1:29:12

health care , they want to get their degrees

1:29:14

. It's pretty amazing .

1:29:17

Oh yeah .

1:29:18

When I first started , the kids

1:29:20

were embarrassed about their scars

1:29:22

and

1:29:24

I said we

1:29:26

have a scar competition . I took my shirt off and said

1:29:29

look at these . I

1:29:31

had no value in that , whatever . And so I said we've

1:29:34

got to be proud of our scars guys . And

1:29:36

so the boys every year we have a scar competition

1:29:38

. They're so excited . I get to look for cash prizes and I get out there every

1:29:40

year we have a scar . They're so excited . It's like a cash prize and I get out

1:29:42

the other day oh , I have a kidney . So

1:29:45

I got a scar back here that I think I'm going to win

1:29:47

this year . And the

1:29:50

other thing is that these kids , they

1:29:53

have never slept away from home . You

1:29:56

know , you imagine being a parent , how freaked out

1:29:58

you'd be , how freaked out and

1:30:00

this is the first night or

1:30:02

five days ever and

1:30:05

we do not let the parents talk to them . If

1:30:07

there's an emergency , we've got a whole medical thing there

1:30:10

, but we don't let the parents

1:30:12

talk to them . We'll keep them posted

1:30:14

and that's hard for the parents but

1:30:16

it's so liberating for

1:30:18

these kids . Again , as of

1:30:20

social media , you know

1:30:22

these guys are the only kids in their gym class with

1:30:25

a scar . Now they've gone

1:30:27

to a camp with 400 other

1:30:29

kids who have those scars . They

1:30:31

keep in touch on social media Year-round

1:30:34

. They have this whole thing . We get

1:30:36

the parents hooked up with therapy

1:30:38

and insurance . We help

1:30:40

them . We never taken a dime from

1:30:42

a kid , but it's a whole

1:30:44

year thing . It becomes this part

1:30:47

of a group . We all need to be part

1:30:49

of a group or several and

1:30:51

this group was pretty easy to

1:30:54

isolate themselves , fearful

1:30:56

parents , and I think that's

1:30:58

the best thing we do . We give them the gift

1:31:00

of having fun at

1:31:02

summer camp like every other kid . That's really the

1:31:04

goal . Our goal is not to

1:31:06

heal anybody or solve

1:31:09

the world . It's that these kids get

1:31:11

to have the same fun I had when

1:31:13

I went to the Y camp outside of Ottumwa

1:31:15

, although we don't let them do

1:31:18

the gun thing . They can do

1:31:21

it . They can do it you

1:31:23

know law although we don't let them do the gun thing . The

1:31:25

last thing I'm going to say when

1:31:27

I went to White Camp out there in Waffle County , they had a kissing group

1:31:30

. They would never do this at home , when our 14-year-old

1:31:33

counselor , 15-year-old counselor , would

1:31:36

, and the women

1:31:38

who I was in love with , who had no butter , these

1:31:41

14 , 15-year-old women I loved you

1:31:43

could pay a dildo and they

1:31:45

would kiss you . I'm

1:31:48

the only one who's dramatic and back

1:31:50

of the line . That's great . We

1:31:53

just had the love that I had for these beautiful

1:31:56

counselors .

1:31:57

Right .

1:31:57

Now that probably wouldn't happen today

1:31:59

. Beautiful counselors , now that probably

1:32:01

wouldn't happen today . This whole kiss I got for many

1:32:03

years and

1:32:07

just seeing it like this is amazing .

1:32:09

The full woman kissed me , it

1:32:13

would be at least a dollar today right . I mean

1:32:15

you know that's sad

1:32:17

they don't have that

1:32:19

and so it's so multifaceted

1:32:22

. Like you said , you've got counseling therapy

1:32:24

for the parents , so you're

1:32:27

not just changing children's

1:32:29

lives , you are changing entire families'

1:32:31

lives .

1:32:32

Yes , Wow , and that's

1:32:34

what you . You know

1:32:36

, you just want to be a part of something

1:32:38

, and again you'd be so much self-esteem

1:32:40

. Jimmy Kimmel's son , billy

1:32:43

, has had three

1:32:45

heart surgeries and

1:32:47

his cardiologist is worse

1:32:49

than half , and so when the

1:32:51

first time they saved his life , we

1:32:54

said , well , now we've got to get Jimmy involved . Yeah , selfishly

1:32:57

, my thing is always we've got to raise some money . So

1:33:00

Jimmy Kimmel's one of the best guys

1:33:02

ever before this , and

1:33:05

you know he came out and

1:33:07

did a gala . He auctioned

1:33:09

off . He would come to people's houses and make

1:33:12

grilled cheese sandwiches . Oh

1:33:14

, wow , and we made like $400,000

1:33:16

because he'd go okay , I'll do , four People were paying

1:33:18

. You'll come to my house and make girls ? Yeah

1:33:20

, and he'll really do it . And you

1:33:23

know you also feel grateful

1:33:25

that when my kids are born you know you're older

1:33:28

and who knows what happens

1:33:30

in life . But to me you have

1:33:32

a lot of empathy for these parents . These families

1:33:34

are like oh shit , what

1:33:37

is this need ? What is ? Because that's a ? You

1:33:40

know everybody would agree that your kids are

1:33:42

thieves you care more about them

1:33:44

. You can negotiate other things with the kids

1:33:47

. That's the deal breaker . Anyway

1:33:50

, jack , I've got to get in there and

1:33:52

see what's up . I hear my son yelling at

1:33:54

me hey , tom Fortnite

1:33:57

, I'm swearing . And when he swears

1:33:59

it was funny . He's like like shit . Talking to her

1:34:01

, I said I should talk to my friends

1:34:03

when I was young too . But don't

1:34:05

. If anybody outside this house or

1:34:08

other parents hear you , or at school , you

1:34:10

will have no friends . And I'll

1:34:12

once in a while hear him swear and

1:34:14

I'll I go . Where

1:34:17

the fuck did you learn this ? He has no

1:34:19

cadence . So

1:34:22

I'm like okay , I have to do better

1:34:24

, right ? I

1:34:26

?

1:34:26

hear you . Hey Tom thank

1:34:28

you so much for doing this . Wow

1:34:32

, maybe in

1:34:34

the future , as we get down closer to the election

1:34:37

, we'll reconnect . But

1:34:39

fantastic things that you are

1:34:41

doing . You're not somebody who has just Achieved

1:34:44

success and greatness and then said , oh

1:34:46

okay , now I'm going to kick back and relax . You're

1:34:49

making a difference in

1:34:51

the lives Of people that probably

1:34:53

would not have a chance without

1:34:55

it , so thank you .

1:34:58

Well , thank you . Thank you , buddy , good luck

1:35:00

. And we take it easy .

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