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The Joe Rogan experience. Train

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my day, Joe Rogan Podcasts, my name.

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All day.

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Hey, Michael Malas. How are you, my friend?

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I am doing outstanding. Always

0:16

good to see you? No. What's ever said it to

0:18

me before? I love you. Come

0:20

on. No. That's not a problem. Said that. I think

0:22

I've said it. I think I've said it. You know I love

0:24

you.

0:24

What's in the box, man? What's in the

0:26

box? So Albert

0:28

Hitchcock -- Yeah. -- great film director.

0:31

Love Albert Hitchcock. Made this comment about

0:33

the difference between surprise and

0:35

suspense. Right? Yes. So

0:37

surprise is a bomb goes off.

0:40

There's five seconds of surprise. People

0:42

are like, okay, what happened? Suspense is

0:45

when the audience knows something that the characters

0:47

don't. So you have Keri Grant drinking

0:49

tea with his girlfriend and there's a bomb

0:51

out of the table and for ten minutes they're just

0:53

perfectly calm and there's a bomb. So

0:56

you are a lot nicer to your audience than I am,

0:58

which is probably why you're a lot more popular than

1:01

I am.

1:01

So can we wait like five

1:03

minutes before we sharpen the box?

1:04

Sure. We can wait an hour. I don't give a

1:06

fuck. Okay. We have a fun

1:08

surprise. We

1:08

got all day. The this

1:11

is from one of the many friends

1:13

I've met here in Austin and every opportunity

1:15

I have to talk about

1:17

how much I love Austin, I will absolutely fucking

1:20

take. I am so giddy

1:22

to be here tell you this story. A couple

1:24

my friends just came to visit. I've

1:27

known them since high school, Andrea and Annette.

1:29

And they reminded me of this story that they

1:31

had done when they're in their thirties, old enough

1:34

to know better. So there's a city

1:36

in Ohio called Twinsburg. Have

1:38

you heard of this? No. So Twinsburg every

1:40

year has Twin parades.

1:43

And you can go when you're twins and march

1:45

in the parades and hang out with other twins.

1:48

Andrea and Annette who are unrelated and

1:51

don't look alike at all. Decided,

1:53

you know, we're gonna do. We're gonna just go

1:55

and pass off as identical twins.

1:58

Even though you can go there as fraternal twins.

2:00

There may have been some fake birth certificates involved.

2:03

I can't say that for legal reasons. Do you

2:05

have to show birth certificates to What in the parade?

2:07

Well, if you're gonna march as identical twins and

2:09

registers them, you have to show birth certificates.

2:12

Now mind you, they could have gone for free, but

2:14

they decided to pay them money to

2:16

go as identical twins. So they got the same

2:18

haircuts, dress the same, they

2:21

took part in medical research. So if you

2:23

still have cancer, it's because of them, and

2:26

they ended up marching in the identical

2:28

twin parade with all the

2:30

black people for some reason.

2:31

Okay. So

2:33

it's just What does it have to do with the box?

2:36

It's just these are just friends of mine who are just

2:37

here visiting Austin. This box

2:40

is what's in the box is made from some other

2:42

people that I was friends here in Austin. The point being,

2:44

Everyone's coming through here just

2:47

week after week. I I wanna give you an

2:49

update.

2:49

Bridge of Fantasy is closed in her house.

2:51

Yeah. She's

2:51

a good friend of mine. Yeah. And mine too, her husband,

2:53

Jaren, gonna be staying with me in two weeks while he checks

2:55

out the update. So it's it's Debra Stowe's

2:57

gonna be here visiting in May. Oh, is she

2:59

really? Yes. She's escaped from Canada. She's escaping

3:02

from Canada. Did the letter come over here? And

3:04

and she'll be able to be here in

3:05

May. So

3:06

right now, you can't fly in unless you're

3:08

vaccinating. Correct? I think America is the

3:10

only country where that is

3:12

the situation. Detecting

3:14

us, Michael, It's it's illegal

3:18

to come here if you have COVID, but

3:20

not if you're not vaccinated.

3:22

Well, that makes sense. Yeah.

3:23

It's just absolutely crazy, but May eleventh,

3:25

people will be able to come here and and absolutely

3:28

visit. I thought they're waiting until May

3:30

because it's March. They postponed couple

3:32

of months. Really, like It was till you got it

3:34

ready.

3:34

It was supposed to

3:35

be April, they postponed it till May. So I mean,

3:37

are you not loving? What's been happening with this

3:39

city? Yeah.

3:40

I love this

3:40

And thanks to you in large part, don't you think?

3:43

I don't know. I mean, I'm very

3:45

happy if anybody thinks that, but it's

3:47

just an amazing city.

3:48

Just we're very lucky to be here. It's

3:50

really special. But I very unusual.

3:53

I feel like we're an unprecedented times

3:55

because this is the only time in American

3:58

history to my knowledge where

4:00

a red state is going to be a

4:02

cultural center

4:04

because you remember, like, New York in the seventies,

4:06

Paris in the twenties. Obviously, his Paris is

4:08

in the

4:09

country. But you when you have all these different

4:11

groups, then diagramming together,

4:13

it becomes something bigger than the sum of its parts.

4:16

So we've got the biohacker people here,

4:18

we've got the Bitcoin people here, we've got the

4:20

Whole Foods crowd, the Huya crowd, your your

4:22

honor people, you've got the podcasters, you've

4:24

got the comedians, you know, it's just It's

4:27

amazing.

4:27

It's an musicians. Oh,

4:29

that's a music. It's like it begins the music. Yeah. The music

4:31

capital. Incredible. The music here is incredible.

4:33

It's so good. And it's so accessible. Yeah.

4:36

You can go out any night. There's bars on Sixth

4:38

Street on any night that have amazing

4:40

bands playing. That's what we found out about Alice

4:43

Boyd. Would you what is that place called? The white what?

4:45

The white horse? What's that bar called?

4:47

Sounds right. I think it's the white horse. Cool

4:50

little fucking bar. Like, real cool,

4:52

like, little fucking shitty pool table

4:55

and and there's, like, maybe fifteen

4:57

twenty people in there and there's this honky

5:00

talk dude on stage. And I'm, like, this guy

5:02

is fucking amazing. His

5:04

band's incredible. I'm like, how

5:06

good is this music? And

5:08

the thing I'm really happy about here

5:10

as opposed to New York or LA

5:13

is people are appreciative of being

5:14

here. They're

5:15

not too cool for school. Right. There's none

5:17

of this, like, you know, my friend

5:19

Luxe, she had this great line about if you

5:21

are asked about an app, just

5:23

say, oh, I was at the on that for a while, it sucked.

5:26

So, like, you could just pass. You could

5:28

pass any party.

5:28

Oh, yeah. I tried that for a while, suck. But

5:30

we don't have that here. People are actually

5:33

enthusiastic. I think the comedy

5:35

scene here is amazing. The comedy scene here is

5:37

insane. I just saw Neil Hamburger a couple weeks ago.

5:39

Got none of my favorite comedian. Is faring

5:41

well. That too is very faring

5:42

well. He's my absolute He opened for Louis

5:44

once. I saw him at the Irvine improv.

5:47

And I was like, dude, that guy's so good. Did

5:49

they did they get it? Yeah. Well,

5:51

there's comedy fans there. Okay. You

5:53

know, it's like, first of all, I think a good

5:55

first of all, if he's opening up for Louis, he's

5:57

gonna be really funny. Right. Like, Louis has

5:59

some oddball people open up for

6:01

him. Like, he had j London open up for him

6:03

in in LA.

6:05

You don't do you know who Jay

6:06

London No. Jay London is a guy.

6:08

I did my very first show with,

6:10

like, on v I think it was, like, VH1

6:12

or something. Like that, or maybe might not have

6:14

even been that good of a network. Because one was,

6:16

like, shitty standup, spotlight,

6:19

something shows. And he

6:21

was on Lastcomic standing. And

6:23

for a while, like, caught some

6:25

heat. He's a very eccentric guy.

6:27

Like, when I met him out here in

6:29

LA, I I met him in New York, and then I saw

6:31

him out here in LA in, like, two

6:34

thousand two thousand one around

6:36

there. And then when I met him, he was,

6:38

like, selling stuff on the street Like,

6:40

he was selling, like, after September

6:42

eleventh, he was selling, like, American flags because

6:44

everybody's putting American flags in their car, like, the

6:46

suction cup once. Yeah. So

6:48

he's, like, this fucking strange sort

6:51

of character, but he's really funny. And

6:53

he brings, like, his notes on stage and he's

6:55

always embarrassed about his jokes and he hides.

6:57

That's

6:58

Jay. Oh,

6:58

okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen him. You know,

7:00

so, like, Louie has, like, these odd

7:02

duck people open up for him and jacellaris.

7:06

And

7:06

he had Neil hamburger open up for him. So

7:08

everybody cut who's a Louis fan? Who's

7:10

cutting that nose?

7:11

Who's if you're

7:11

opening up for Louis because he asked you to.

7:13

Yeah. One time, I I saw nails using

7:15

a residency. I think satellite in LA, and there was

7:18

this basic bitch on a date in front of me with her

7:20

boyfriend. And I told the story twenty times

7:22

that she turns to him and she goes, what is this?

7:25

And I'm

7:25

like, that is the exact right

7:29

reaction. If you

7:30

don't know, you just think, oh my god,

7:32

what have I stumbled into? You you know? But I'm

7:34

surprised there I I mean, I love

7:36

that kind of alt comedy stuff.

7:39

I I think it's just something that's just

7:41

a little bit out there. Kurt Metzger, who

7:43

I'm buddies with. I love Kurt.

7:45

I've he's he's open for Louis too. Yeah.

7:47

Yeah. He is just he's amazing. He

7:49

I just saw him here. It's the funniest thing is with these

7:51

comedians as you obviously know, is

7:53

that it's one thing when you're hanging out and someone's

7:56

funny that you go on stage, it's a whole other level.

7:58

And he had this I was watching him at at the

8:00

creek and the cave, and he just goes, yeah,

8:02

so my back's been hurting me a lot recently.

8:04

So we're gonna be talking about that for the next twenty minutes.

8:06

I'm like, Why is that so fucking

8:09

funny?

8:09

It's funny coming from him.

8:11

It's coming from him. He's he's got a very unique

8:13

sense of humor. He's so smart too.

8:15

He's like, oh, he like and he's a guy, you

8:17

know, he grew up as a, I believe, as a Jehovah's

8:20

Witness. Right? Yeah. So he grew up in religious

8:22

cult. And he he is, like,

8:24

not buying it.

8:25

Like, whenever there's any kind of

8:27

group think going on and any kind of

8:29

00I know what this is. I know what this

8:31

is. Get the fuck out here with this.

8:34

He's the best at calling that. He's so good

8:36

at that because I would imagine I

8:38

don't have that experience, but I would imagine if

8:40

you had that experience of growing up in a fucking religious

8:42

cult and then

8:43

escaping, then I realized, like, oh my god, These

8:45

are regular people. Regular people

8:47

get caught up in mind viruses. Like,

8:50

we always wanna look at people in a call to and go,

8:52

oh, that would never be me. I'm

8:54

too smart for that. These fucking morons,

8:56

why do they believe that guy? We're

8:58

all susceptible. All

8:59

of us are. It's easier to train

9:01

a smart dog than a dumb one. And

9:04

especially the appeal of

9:06

the cult is you have this hidden

9:08

r k knowledge that the normies don't.

9:10

And this is gonna

9:12

feed into your sense of intelligence

9:14

and self

9:15

self importance. It's like, you're the one

9:17

of the the ones in the know, and everyone

9:19

else has blinders on. And you can

9:21

be really aggressive about

9:23

enforcing your opinion because you know it's right.

9:26

Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a thing that people

9:29

are doing that they did during the pandemic

9:31

and they do about any issue

9:33

that's controversial, whether it's absorption or

9:36

whether it's guns or anything. It's

9:38

like the people instead of

9:41

like talking about it like these

9:44

are the pros and cons. This is what's going

9:46

on. This is where I could understand why you would

9:48

think like this. This is why I think like that

9:50

and just try to work it out. It always

9:53

becomes this like very vicious

9:55

attack on your on your

9:57

mental capacity on

9:59

your thought process, your education, you

10:03

immediately they wanna classify you

10:05

in some sort of a category where they could dismiss

10:07

you. Whether it's sexist or racist

10:09

or transphobic or whatever out group.

10:12

Throw you in and out group and start screaming

10:14

at you.

10:14

And it's the most unproductive

10:17

way to communicate. And

10:19

it I think it's also a product of social

10:21

media that we need to be really careful because

10:24

it's changing the way people interact with each other.

10:26

Well, I think it's more function of evolutionary psychology

10:28

because if I'm low status and I have

10:30

no opportunity to you know, raise

10:33

my rank in terms of kind of whatever

10:35

long term mating, this gives

10:37

me an excuse. Now I'm in a position

10:39

to tell Joe Rogen mister podcaster

10:42

celebrity that I'm better than him. So

10:44

right away without having to do any of the work building the

10:46

audience, I'm leapfrogging over you because

10:48

I understand drug protocols

10:50

better than Joe who went to the veterinarian

10:53

and just took something off the shelf and just injected

10:55

into his veins? Yes.

10:56

Yeah. Definitely. It's it's that

10:58

too. There's there's like many factors,

11:01

but that's definitely one of the factors why people

11:03

get aggressive and attack famous people.

11:05

But it's not just faint. Sure. It's they do

11:07

it to people that have any person who

11:10

has an an ideology that's different

11:12

than them. Like, yeah. People on the

11:14

right do it too. Of course, they do. Everybody

11:16

does it. It's a natural part of

11:18

human. That's why you're seeing these

11:20

bizarre shifts. Like

11:22

the left when I was a kid, Well,

11:24

no, my parent my my stepfather was a

11:26

hippie, and we grew up in San Francisco

11:29

in the seventies during the Vietnam war. Oh,

11:31

okay. So I was like, surrounded

11:34

by, like, god, all my neighbors

11:36

were gay. Everyone was an artist.

11:39

There's all these fucking weirdos. It's

11:41

like, ideologies

11:44

like this. Like, whatever

11:47

we're we're doing. Whether it's

11:49

right or left, they get it it's

11:51

like everybody just gets locked into a

11:53

group mindset for some strange reason.

11:56

And if you don't agree with everything

11:59

in that group mindset, they can just fucking

12:01

dismiss you.

12:01

Right? They just completely dismiss

12:04

you. They're looking for filters to

12:06

not have to listen to anything you say further, I

12:08

have pronouns in my bio on Twitter

12:10

because if you're this type of conservative who

12:13

thinks, oh, pronouns in bio, I don't have to listen

12:15

to anything these guys to say. I don't wanna be talking

12:17

to you anyway if that's how your mind works. So right

12:19

away, it's going to alienate me from

12:21

that audience. It also works because if

12:23

you're someone who is on the other camp

12:25

and you see pronouns in my Twitter

12:27

bio, you're gonna perceive me as part of your team and

12:29

you're gonna listen to what I have to say, so works

12:31

in both directions. Like, it instead

12:33

of listening to does this person

12:35

have a point, is this true as it falls?

12:38

It's immediately should I be

12:40

listening to anything they further have to say.

12:42

Now I dismiss them immediately with one word

12:44

or one phrase. I

12:45

I mean, anyone who likes this can't possibly

12:48

well, it's like, stupid people make point good points all

12:50

the time. So when I was a kid,

12:51

the left was all about

12:53

freedom of speech and freedom

12:55

of expression And, you know, there

12:57

were if you were like a a person who never vaccinated

13:00

your children, you would be much more likely to

13:02

be on the left. You were someone who didn't

13:04

trust far a suitable company. Right. So it

13:06

was. Yeah. Hippies were all about, like, healthy

13:08

food. Like, there was a lot like, a lot

13:10

of the hippie stuff was stupid. But a lot

13:13

of the hippie stuff was It's not that

13:15

it was stupid. It just doesn't work without

13:17

discipline. It doesn't work without exceptional

13:19

people work hard to discipline and then

13:21

share with each other. Like, you can't just

13:23

everybody share with everybody because there's a

13:25

natural human inclination to not do

13:27

anything if you don't have to do anything, especially

13:30

when you're young. It's fucking it's

13:32

not good for the development of a human being

13:34

to give them everything they want when they're young. That's

13:36

why it's fucked up. It's like young rich

13:38

kids. That's, like, they're classically fucked

13:41

up.

13:41

But there's something wrong about

13:43

that. Right? It yeah. You know, I think hippies have gotten

13:45

a bad rap. And when I was, like, get much younger,

13:47

I thought, okay, these guys are idiots. Don't know what they're

13:49

talking about. At the altar, I've got in the world, I'm like, you know

13:51

what? Like, they're probably on to something. to

13:54

something. Like, in the late 60s, they're like,

13:55

why are we why are we sending kids to die

13:57

overseas? Like,

13:58

Why are drugs illegal? Yeah. Why are like,

14:01

what are we like, okay. Let's have some pleasure.

14:03

Let's expand our minds. Like, it sounds stupid

14:05

now because it's become an e pray love thing.

14:07

But looking back, I'm like, they weren't so

14:09

bad and who were they really like, lot of them were destroying their

14:11

own lives. Let's get let's be honest. I'm sure what hedonism

14:13

is a problem. But in terms of, like, their motivations,

14:16

I'm like, I kind of a soft spot for them. But

14:18

if you meet some of these older hippies, like even like

14:20

the especially the Bernie Sanders types, lot

14:22

of them are just really nice

14:23

people. Yeah. This is really nice. Good neighborhood.

14:26

Yeah. And they they got into a nice

14:28

vibe of, like, being a good person. But that's

14:30

what the left used to be about. The left

14:32

used to be about, like, freedom. It was

14:34

more it was more like freedom

14:36

of speech, freedom of

14:38

expression. You know, like think about

14:40

the comic books that came from the left like r,

14:42

crumb like fucking bizarre wild

14:45

shit, the right would never create. Right?

14:48

But then somewhere along the line,

14:50

the role's reversed, and I don't even

14:52

know if people realize it. It's like a shifting

14:54

of the polar ice caps. Like,

14:56

today, if you are gonna be a

14:58

person who had a controversial comic

15:01

book, you would most likely be on

15:03

the one hundred percent. If you add, like, anything

15:05

remotely as

15:06

satirical and as fucked

15:09

up as some of those

15:09

r cromcom comics. Have you ever read those? Did you know

15:12

r crom was gonna draw my graphic novel?

15:14

No.

15:14

You didn't know this? Do you know my you never

15:16

think I wrote a book about me. Right? Who did?

15:18

Harvey Peaker? I did not. I did not know

15:20

that. Harvey Peaker from American Splendor, who's

15:22

Arcrum's like bestie. Right? He

15:24

had a graphic novel about me

15:27

came out in two thousand six, and

15:29

our crumb was originally going to be

15:31

the artist, which would have been absolutely insane.

15:33

Did you ever watch that document Of

15:35

course, where his brother's eating the rope

15:37

insane. His brother's just out to

15:39

lunch.

15:39

He's reading books all day and living in the

15:41

house. If they're all in like, it's salmon.

15:44

But that that was such a I mean, talking about

15:46

earlier, we're talking with Austin. Like, the

15:48

the Midwest in that time when America was

15:50

kind of this, like, dark and lost place,

15:52

there was so much creativity in that

15:54

alt comic scene, especially all the way through the nineties.

15:57

Like a lot of really amazing creative

15:59

people Dan Claus is another one who's

16:01

just amazing. Really just

16:04

great stuff. Yeah. So Hardy did

16:06

a book about me. It's it goes

16:07

for, like, two hundred bucks now too. That's amazing.

16:10

So our but our crumbs comics are

16:12

pretty fucking wild. Like, today,

16:14

even then, even try even then, even

16:17

then, you know, when I was, like,

16:19

this is how much of hippies my parents were.

16:22

We have that r crumb how to

16:24

wipe your ass thing framed

16:26

in the

16:26

bathroom. Chrome. Do you know that No. I

16:28

don't know that. No. This, like, our Chrome

16:30

had, like, a it was, like, a toilet that,

16:33

like, showed you how to wipe your ass. It's the most

16:35

ridiculous thing. And it was,

16:37

like, that's it right there. Oh

16:39

my god.

16:39

Yeah. Don't forget to wipe your ass folks,

16:42

bro, that was fucking in my house.

16:45

That was

16:45

in our bathroom when I was like, oh,

16:48

I

16:48

freaked me. Yeah. My parents were Let me just tape

16:50

it up. They put a frame I remember correctly. Either

16:52

it was framed or it was, like, posted

16:54

somewhere. I don't remember exactly how it was.

16:56

I'm pretty sure it was framed. Oh, my god. That's amazing.

16:58

It was it was, like, a poster or something.

17:00

That was it.

17:01

Right? Yeah. But, like, yeah, there's a toilet glass folks.

17:04

It's my buddy Eric July just had

17:06

a a kick start or something like that for his complex

17:08

series. Think he raised, like, a hundred thousand or some

17:10

crazy number. So there is this big but

17:12

he's, you know, he's an anarchist. He's considered

17:14

on the right. Yeah. But, yeah, like, people are

17:16

because the the other thing is it's not just that it's

17:18

this kind of leftist crap. It's that's

17:20

the it's just regurgitating the same stories. Like,

17:22

how many times the super ain't gonna punch brainiac

17:24

in the face? Yeah.

17:25

Exactly. It's it's it's just kinda all

17:27

the Well,

17:27

thanks. There's

17:28

like two different kinds of comics.

17:30

Right? There's like comics that are like classic

17:33

superhero genre comics that I

17:35

love growing up. Like the Avengers

17:37

and the Hulk and Conan and the Barbarian

17:40

all that shit. And then there's

17:42

like these graphic novels

17:44

that are independent and people do

17:46

like really weird cool stuff.

17:49

And I guess you could put like spawn in there.

17:51

You know, you could put like a bunch of them. You could

17:53

put a bunch of these like very interesting comics.

17:56

But then they go, like, as far out there, I

17:58

was like, when I lived in Boston, they have

18:00

these independent comic bookstores. You go

18:02

there and they'd be these, like, really small batch

18:05

comics that these weirdo artists

18:07

would create in this home. Wild. Like

18:09

really amazing, interesting, you

18:12

know, like, out there stuff in in

18:14

conflict form. But if you're gonna have

18:16

anything that's, like, as controversial

18:18

as our chrome, it's gonna be coming from the right now

18:21

which is really weird.

18:21

It's

18:22

just a new thing. And that's unprecedented. Right.

18:25

Unprecedented.

18:26

The right is the one telling us to get out of this

18:28

war in Ukraine. You're still right.

18:30

Can you imagine if you're just like during

18:32

the bush era, if you imagine the Republicans

18:35

would be chanting, let's get the military

18:37

home, enough of the war machine.

18:39

It'll be because it's almost as crazy

18:41

as Bernie Sanders a couple years ago telling

18:43

us we need to support either the CIA or the FBI.

18:46

I'm like, you are the epitome of this

18:48

filthy old. Like, you all and your wallets are

18:50

gonna fly out.

18:51

You're telling us to

18:53

trust the FBI or CIA. I couldn't

18:55

believe it, but It's this blanket trust.

18:57

Yeah. It's this complete Trust the idea

19:00

of both of them. Trust some of the individuals

19:02

that are in them.

19:02

Yes. I I had But it's like it's just

19:04

a fucking group of humans. When you have a group

19:06

of humans

19:06

-- Right. -- any group of humans, you're gonna

19:08

have certain people that bend the rules, you're gonna

19:10

have certain people that say, you know what, there and get away

19:13

with this. You know, have certain people that say, I'm

19:15

gonna use this power because it's fun. You got

19:17

a lot of weird things that happen when you get

19:18

people. And if you call them the FBI, it's

19:21

a fucking group of humans. They're

19:23

just humans like all of us. I had dinner

19:25

with an ex either FBI. I think it was CIA

19:28

operative or FBI, but I'm not even sure

19:30

CIA. And he was talking about

19:32

how It's illegal for him

19:34

or his coworkers to, like, look up his ex girlfriend's

19:36

Gmail. But what he could do

19:39

is call his contact in

19:41

France and be like, hey, look

19:43

up this Gmail for me, and he could look

19:45

it up for his French girl, for his French

19:47

buddy, and he was talking about like, oh, this is

19:49

how corrupt we are. I'm like, you should be in

19:51

jail. Like,

19:54

you're using your powers to look

19:56

up your exes emails and you're just

19:58

talking about, like, Oops,

19:59

I'm on the take. Like, your actual be

20:01

a

20:01

serious crime. It is, though.

20:03

It's just not enforced. There's no way that's not

20:05

a serious crime. When you're so wild.

20:07

So when people talk about corruption and

20:09

like, oh, it's, you know, it's like hunter Biden's on

20:11

the take, that's not the corruption

20:12

I'm worried about. It's shit like this. They're

20:14

human beings, and it's not like their navy

20:16

seals. Yeah.

20:17

Right. It's not like they have to go through

20:19

some incredible, like,

20:21

training process that weeds out

20:23

all the weak people. It's not that at

20:25

all. You just get to that spot. You're

20:27

a bureaucrat. You're a guy who's moving up

20:30

the ladder. Next thing, you know, you're running this

20:32

thing. And you might be a fucking sociopath, or

20:34

you might be a really patriotic guy who's trying

20:36

to do the right thing inside a system that's imperfect.

20:38

I think both those things coexist.

20:41

But also, are you gonna fire the good worker

20:43

just because he's looking at his ex girlfriend's emails?

20:45

You're gonna back now, dude, cut it out.

20:46

You're not gonna make it public. It'll look back for

20:48

the agency. You look after each other. It's kinda thin

20:50

blue line thing. Yeah. And

20:51

then, like, lift up that carpet. Yeah.

20:53

Yeah. Just like, dude, don't don't do it again. Like,

20:55

okay. I'm sorry. It's just really kind of AAA

20:58

messed up.

20:58

Do you wanna see do you wanna see some

21:00

of Sure. Show me the cake. Well, that's tell you the whole

21:02

story. Okay. So I'm at home

21:04

digging around on Twitter as I want to do.

21:07

And I get a like when the verified tab

21:09

met something. And I'm like, okay. Who is this

21:11

brought? And I look and

21:13

that wasn't the word I used, my view, but I'm

21:15

being nice. And I looked and it's

21:18

this girl, Natalie Sidesterve, she and her husband,

21:20

they live in Austin, they make these super

21:22

realistic cakes. So I said to

21:24

them, I'm gonna be on Rogen. We became good friends.

21:26

We just went to Miami together, whole crew of us,

21:28

me, Blair White, also. And

21:31

I'm like, make me a cake of your favorite

21:33

Russian podcasters. So I hope that they got

21:35

my cheekbones. Right?

21:36

Oh, boy. Here we go. God,

21:40

tariff. Turn

21:43

towards me. It's

21:46

pretty goddamn good. That's

21:49

pretty good. That that is Lex in a fucking

21:51

that's perf. I think it's got too much emotion

21:53

in the eyes. The lips are little pursed

21:55

though. It makes up for that. He might be

21:57

in the middle of, like, saying something important about those

22:00

t f

22:00

key. Does this does this look

22:02

as insane on

22:03

camera as it looks in person?

22:05

It's really good, dude. Holy crap. Yeah.

22:08

Oh, awesome. That's really good.

22:10

So what we're looking at here for the people that are

22:12

just listening is a fucking amazing

22:15

bust. I got it. Lex Friedman,

22:17

that's actually a a cake.

22:21

Hold on.

22:21

Yes. So they did that meme that

22:23

everything is cake. It's them. Well,

22:25

they have really talented band codes. That's

22:27

so good. But how does it feel to be number

22:30

two if best at best?

22:31

What do you mean? Their favorite Russian

22:33

podcaster. Like, at best, you're number two now.

22:35

I

22:35

I feel like probably that's number one. I

22:37

feel like you're like a and then Constantine's

22:40

probably number two.

22:40

Oh, Constantine's He's great.

22:42

So I'm gonna say those guys are great. I feel

22:44

like that runny dangerfield

22:47

line. My wife tells me I'm number one,

22:49

but treats me like I'm number two. Okay.

22:51

Let's should I cut it?

22:52

Are we ready to cut hold? Let's cut it later?

22:54

Come

22:54

on. More suspense. Okay. Damn,

22:57

she did a good job. Yeah. It's excellent.

22:59

don't even wanna cut it. I wanna let it rot.

23:02

It's I don't wanna ruin it. Yeah. It's creaky looking

23:04

at. It's

23:05

like a sand castle that you can eat. You

23:07

know? It's just temporary. Are

23:11

you excited can we talk about the club? Yeah. Sure.

23:13

Are you excited about long has this

23:15

been your dream? It wasn't

23:17

a dream ever. I used to tell comedians,

23:19

be nice to club owners because don't wanna be

23:21

one. Because I was

23:23

like, we need them. Yeah. But you're comedians

23:25

have, oftentimes, have an adversarial

23:28

relationship with people

23:29

like he's watching me. He is.

23:30

He's judging us. So

23:32

he's just 000. And

23:35

I want you to be ones.

23:37

Joe, why are you such a zero? The

23:41

relationship the comedians have with clubs

23:43

is based on the initial

23:45

feeling that you had from clubs. There's

23:48

like like you have to kinda like work through that because

23:50

in the beginning, you're an open mic and you're fucking

23:52

terrible. And you start getting

23:54

better and you're trying to get work, but they don't

23:56

wanna give you work, and they don't really respect

23:58

you because they remember when you were terrible. And

24:00

then you have to leave town. And then when you leave

24:03

town, you're going to clubs and you're not getting

24:05

paid that much. And sometimes people

24:07

will kind of screw you over on the ticket

24:09

prices or something will go wrong and

24:11

you you gotta just be cool about all of it.

24:13

You gotta be as friendly to club owners

24:16

as you can because you don't wanna be one.

24:18

And you need those people. We need them. We're

24:20

not gonna go open up our own clubs. And I would

24:22

say that these guys like just we have

24:24

this idea, like, it's an adversarial relationship

24:27

with clubs. Like, it's not. We're all working together.

24:29

Like, you gotta be nice to these folks. Like,

24:32

no one wants to open a fucking club, and

24:34

then I came here. I was like, goddamn it. I gotta open

24:36

a club. I was like, we had one place we're

24:38

working out of is like an EDM club, the Vulcan

24:40

gas company, which has been amazing. But

24:43

it's not really set up for comedy. There's

24:45

a balcony. It's weird. Some of the the

24:48

the seating, like, people are staring at a screen.

24:50

I don't like that part of it. But it's an amazing

24:53

staff and it's an amazing stuff and this sounds

24:55

great. It's fun. And it kept us here

24:57

for, like, a couple years, if I go, but we need,

24:59

like, a full time comedy club, like, the

25:01

comedy store. And so I started looking

25:03

and I almost bought one place that was owned by

25:05

cult. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It

25:07

was this is was

25:08

actually under contract, and then some

25:11

issues happened and fell apart, but didn't

25:13

know what that meant until

25:16

Adam Egan said,

25:16

oh, yeah. He goes, I

25:18

I saw the documentary on them. I go what?

25:20

There's a documentary.

25:23

Oh. You know the cross back when they make a

25:25

movie about it. So the documentary is called

25:27

Holy Hell. And this documentary

25:29

is about this guy who he

25:32

ran a caught in West Hollywood. And

25:34

he was this guy who, at one point in time, he

25:36

was, like, if he was a failed actor, and

25:38

then he was he's a dance sir, and he was

25:40

just this really weird gay guy that was

25:42

super, super charismatic. And

25:44

he got all these people to

25:46

join his cult. And they

25:49

fled West Hollywood for some reason

25:51

and came to Austin. And when they got to Austin,

25:53

they set up this whole commune and he

25:57

had them build him a

25:59

theater where he could dance

26:01

in front of them. Okay. So

26:03

they built this beautiful theater.

26:05

But, you know, it's all, like, the cult

26:07

members made it. Like, I don't even know if they use general

26:09

contractors. I don't know. But it's a beautiful

26:12

place. And so I watched the documentary.

26:14

I'm like, oh, no. The documentary is

26:16

so bad. This guy was fucking

26:18

everyone. Right? He was getting money from

26:21

them, but he was was fucking them, and then he

26:23

would make them pay him because it was therapy.

26:25

So he would fuck all the guys, like the straight

26:27

guys, and then they they were talking

26:29

about this. They said, this is what we're talking about,

26:31

like, cults. These are regular folks. Yeah.

26:34

These guys are so upset that they they couldn't

26:36

believe this is they thought they had it

26:38

nailed. They thought they figured life out.

26:40

They thought they had a group of people and they could

26:42

all live together. This guy's like the biggest done

26:44

history. Like, if you're getting your straight

26:47

guys are paying

26:47

you to fuck them. You're talented. It's

26:49

like beyond comprehension.

26:53

The the the kind of charisma

26:55

you need. Yeah. The the kind of

26:58

just whatever the fuck that

27:00

is where you can talk someone into things

27:02

like that.

27:02

Like, what is that? Like, what's

27:05

the steps? Yeah. Do you

27:06

talk talk Which the approach first,

27:08

the money, or the sex? Actually, yeah.

27:11

How do you justify it? Maybe just keep

27:13

going. You know, maybe just keep asking

27:16

for more.

27:16

But you're

27:16

right now. I don't want fifty dollars for that. Yeah.

27:19

Okay. Here you go. And now I'm gonna fuck you. And now I

27:21

want a handjob. This is the this is the

27:23

documentary seat. They always start off

27:25

looking great. This isn't the

27:27

case with wild what is it?

27:29

Wild wild country. Right? Is that

27:32

the one yeah. WOW WOW country?

27:35

And

27:35

this was this

27:36

was popular. No. This

27:38

is probably four

27:40

they came to Austin because

27:41

-- Okay. -- is that a lake or is that an ocean?

27:44

See, that's all mountains and shit, so that must be when they

27:46

were in California. So they were all together in

27:48

California, and then they fled

27:50

and came to Austin. I don't remember why. He

27:52

probably fucked the wrong

27:53

guy. I mean, how are they not I'm not That's

27:55

the guy. How are they not all getting This is the holy

27:57

crap. This is the guy. So

27:59

this guy now runs a cult

28:01

in

28:02

Hawaii. He fled development

28:05

He fled Austin, went to Hawaii. So they

28:07

they confront him in Hawaii, in the documentary.

28:09

This is all the place I'm gonna buy Michael

28:11

Mattis. This is the place where I was setting

28:13

up my big comedy cup. I'm like, oh, no. I'm gonna

28:15

have to sage the shit out of this

28:17

place. But, like, literally gonna bring in extra

28:19

this to try to cleanse the

28:21

I'm like, I can't buy this. And then

28:23

luckily, something was wrong, and

28:26

we had, like, an issue and I got out of the contract.

28:28

Wait. Wait. Wait. It's

28:30

great place. How are you gonna

28:32

bought it right away right after I

28:33

got it. How are you gonna find the Exosys? Did you look on

28:35

Yelp? Was gonna, like, figure out a way. I was gonna,

28:37

like, hire a priest or something. I was gonna do a bunch

28:39

of different things like that for

28:40

fun. Because everyone's gonna know, like, the

28:42

background of that place. If you watch the documentary,

28:45

you know the background. It's

28:46

and can you tell us where the are you allowed to

28:48

say where this place is? yeah. It's on

28:50

BK's Road. It's called the one world

28:52

theater. Yeah. It's beautiful.

28:54

Somebody bought it, like I said, immediately afterwards.

28:56

It's a gorgeous place. It's an amazing place

28:58

to see shows too. It's like great

29:00

acoustics there.

29:01

It's really But the story

29:03

behind

29:03

it is Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

29:06

I mean, even if, like, if we

29:08

worked out all the the issues that we had had,

29:11

would have been a great comedy club.

29:12

mean, it's it's a beautiful place. It would have

29:14

required some work to Is

29:15

it RK drove a little out of the way, though? Yeah.

29:17

Yeah. That's a little out of the way. Yeah. But it's No.

29:20

No. Just asking. Yeah. Just But everybody's like,

29:22

oh, I wanna stay within, like, three

29:24

minutes of downtown Austin. Like, come on.

29:26

It's weird coming from California. Because California

29:29

Nice house and Pasadena was no problem. Like,

29:31

everybody went out to the ice house. We had shows there all

29:33

the time. That's like a thirty five minute drive.

29:35

Yeah. But it was still it was, like, normal.

29:38

To go to Irvine. That was normal.

29:39

Yep. But it's funny. That's

29:41

the spot. Oh, that's

29:42

beautiful. It's

29:43

gorgeous. They did an amazing job. It looks

29:44

like it belongs in Epstein's Island, though.

29:47

It sounds like it doesn't when you're in it when you're

29:49

in it. It's a gorgeous building. I just

29:51

I just I forgot it. That's

29:52

how much they loved him. They built him this

29:54

gorgeous building. That's That's how much

29:56

they

29:56

loved to do. That's how much that's what they were told to do.

29:59

Yes. But they did it with love. Look how

30:01

good it is. How do we come on? That's a beautiful

30:03

place. How did it go south? I

30:05

can't really talk about it. It wasn't not the

30:07

giant. It's love. The gulf. The gulf.

30:09

Yeah. So the

30:12

gulf I think it just

30:14

all fell

30:14

up. Well, like, he's fucking all these guys

30:16

and he's allegedly They're not

30:18

all getting s t o's, saying they're not all

30:20

getting eights. I mean,

30:21

they're all guess he's only fucking them.

30:23

I guess they're all,

30:24

like, only interacting with each other. I don't

30:26

know what's going on. Okay.

30:27

I don't know why they're not maybe they did give STDs

30:29

or their left side part out. Right. I don't know.

30:31

But I do know that, like, the whole thing

30:34

he started getting weird plastic surgery and

30:36

allegedly. And, you know, the whole thing's

30:39

why child. Well, you you should watch the documentary. It's

30:41

on Amazon Prime. Okay. It's called Holy

30:43

Hell. You should watch it, you're gonna go, oh my god.

30:46

Geez. It's so sad. Because some of

30:48

these people at the end of the documentary like this one

30:50

ladies now she's like fifty year old Dog Walker.

30:52

She's like, what the fuck? Like,

30:54

I just blew twenty years of my life with these

30:56

people. Like, that was like the saddest part about

30:58

this

30:59

dollar they wake up. Because they wake up because that's

31:01

what people are this is I come it's

31:03

so important to say over and over again

31:05

if someone stuck in that sort of a situation. It's

31:09

all of us. We're all that you

31:11

can catch the flu. Right? You can also

31:13

catch a mind virus. A virus. And a cult being

31:15

a cult is like a mind virus. If you

31:17

grow up believing that,

31:19

you know, a Catholic priest who has

31:21

been molesting children would never do it

31:24

because he's a man of God. Right? Guess

31:26

what? That's the same thing.

31:28

It's the same mindset. It's just

31:31

much more organized and much larger.

31:32

But it's the same sort of

31:34

mindset that would allow you to think that way.

31:36

It's the same mindset that allowed these poor

31:38

fucking people to waste twenty years with of

31:40

their life with this guy who's like a crazy

31:43

person. Yeah. I had a friend of mine,

31:45

a casual friend who

31:47

text me out of nowhere.

31:48

I I talked to her maybe once every

31:50

few years. And she's like, oh, have you heard of this thing called

31:52

Landmark? And Oh, no.

31:54

Right.

31:56

And I go, yeah, it's a cult.

31:58

And she's like, you're so funny. Anyway,

32:01

I wanted to give you this great opportunity, and she

32:03

just kept texting me. And it's just like,

32:05

I don't know what they're how does she

32:07

not know you? That's

32:09

the well, because I'd be the big fish.

32:11

If she could if it doesn't change

32:13

oh, who is this person?

32:14

How does she not know you? She I've known

32:16

she's friends with a couple I've mentioned earlier.

32:19

I've I've known friends of friends since for, like, twenty

32:21

years.

32:21

How funny is when someone's their

32:24

ability to

32:24

read someone is so off that

32:26

they would come to you? Well, I don't think you think it's

32:28

gonna proposal. I don't think that's how it works. I

32:30

think it's more like if you have even the slightest

32:32

chance you have to go for it no matter what.

32:35

And if she came back. It's like who's

32:37

the big I bet you they sit them down and

32:39

they say who's the biggest name in your cell

32:42

phone. And that's gonna be your target.

32:44

That's how it works. Don't wanna just grab

32:46

some, like, bag lady.

32:47

You want someone who's got, like, some

32:49

kind of slight cred

32:50

because he's bringing his people over. Of

32:52

course. And then you could be the one, like,

32:54

oh my god. She brought in -- Right. -- you know,

32:56

whoever wrote in Michael Malis. And

33:00

if she doesn't understand that she's in a cult.

33:03

Right. She Is landmark a cult? Like,

33:05

well, I don't know anything about it. IIII

33:07

had to God, I knew this girl many years ago.

33:09

I don't wanna mention her name. And she said to

33:11

me flat that we're hanging out and she goes,

33:14

I don't need religion because

33:16

I have landmark. And I'm like, you're

33:18

not selling this. You're scaring

33:20

me. And the point is, it's like That's

33:23

adorable. It's a basic I I I'm

33:25

I'm gonna get sued. I know. Because

33:27

when you cross these people forget it's game over,

33:29

but it's kinda it's I think you're buying tapes

33:32

you're paying to attend

33:33

meetings. And what

33:33

is it? Is it a self improvement thing?

33:35

Yes. Yes. But What is it around since the seventies?

33:37

What is their their self improvement angle?

33:40

Is it possible that someone could pull this off

33:42

and do a good job? What do you mean? Make

33:44

a good cult. Solid cult with rules

33:46

like the country, like the bill of rights,

33:48

You know,

33:48

have a good cult. Put together

33:50

a good cult. I think that -- Okay.

33:53

-- redefine

33:53

what's possible. And your relationships, your

33:55

work, your family, your communities, what

33:58

matters most to

33:58

you. Actually, this sounds good, Lex. I

34:00

might have to join. That sounds good, Lex.

34:04

Put it up. Like, let's see.

34:06

Let me go. No. No. No.

34:08

I'm sorry. Scroll back

34:09

No. No. Hold on. Joe, it worked

34:12

because now I'm talking about the shit on Joe

34:14

Rogen. Yeah.

34:14

We're That's just

34:15

pull that's just pull he's pulling out.

34:17

Look. I'm not telling anybody

34:18

to have to look at

34:19

them. Yeah. Okay. Bring about positive permanent

34:21

shifts in the quality of your life. Create

34:23

power, freedom, self expression, and

34:25

peace of mind.

34:25

This sounds good,

34:27

bro.

34:28

Oh, this sounds good. What if I died? Mouse, what

34:30

the fuck is wrong with you? God. More than

34:33

ninety four percent of participants surveyed

34:35

reported that Landmark's forum made a found

34:37

a lasting difference in their lives.

34:38

How about That's

34:40

good. That's ninety four percent. That's better

34:42

than the vaccine. I

34:43

I bet it's The landmark four is designed to

34:45

bring about positive permit shifts in the quality

34:47

of your life in just three days. These

34:50

shifts are the direct cause for a new and unique

34:52

kind of freedom and power. The freedom to be

34:54

at ease and the power to be effective in the areas

34:56

that matter most to you, the quality of your relationships,

34:59

the confidence in which you live your life, your personal

35:01

productivity, your experience, of

35:04

the difference you make, your

35:06

enjoyment of life, those are all

35:08

positive things, Michael

35:09

mouse. I can't believe her

35:11

plan apparently,

35:13

they get you to do it at

35:14

Afrika for Landmark. I don't know what they're doing.

35:16

Holy crap. Maybe they're doing something that's I

35:18

love that. It's about Xenon and

35:20

I would wanna change the subject as quickly

35:22

as possible to to literally anything else. Is it

35:24

is it a thing where it seems

35:26

negative because the people get involved in it

35:28

or all those folks that are just you know, there's

35:30

some people that never seem to

35:32

find an anchor in life.

35:35

You know,

35:35

those they kinda drift from

35:37

one way, I think, into another. I

35:40

I think a lot of the ways these organizations

35:43

work. And it's not necessarily all

35:45

bad, is that they provide lonely

35:47

people a sense of community. This

35:49

is one of the ways AA works. And this

35:51

is not a knock against AA. If you're

35:53

someone who's an addict or an alcoholic and

35:56

you're kind of alone in the gutter, you've got your

35:58

drinking buddy or your heroin buddy, and

36:00

now you've got a group of people who share

36:02

your experiences -- Yes. -- have your worldview.

36:04

You're not alone. That's positive. That's

36:06

that's there I know AA gets a lot of knocks.

36:08

I got a lot of friends who are in recovery. I

36:11

I think it's just a terrifically good

36:13

things for

36:13

them. Doesn't work for everybody. Yeah. I know

36:15

a

36:15

lot of friends who've had great benefits. Yeah.

36:17

And that is actually a real benefit.

36:19

I think you're talking earlier about social media. I

36:21

think a lot of people tend to be very isolated

36:24

there's a lot of lonely people out there, people more

36:26

than even most of us realize. And

36:29

we're social animals. We're hungry. To

36:31

have someone we wanna be seen. We

36:33

want someone who understands us. We want someone

36:35

not to feel so alone all the time.

36:37

Yeah. And yeah.

36:38

That's what something like AA provides.

36:41

Church, that provides that too. Just provide that too.

36:43

Yeah. Like, all these all these, like, that kind of

36:45

Sam Harris atheism that religion's

36:48

all negative. Yeah. And and this kind of atheism

36:50

thing, I'm like, there's a reason people

36:52

gravitate toward it, and it's not all that they've

36:54

been duped.

36:55

Okay. Does provide a service for

36:57

lot of people. Yeah. definitely provides

36:59

the the the agreement that you're all

37:01

making with each other. All kind of making with

37:03

each other this agreement that you're there to be good persons,

37:06

good people in the eyes of God. Like,

37:09

there's a a difference in the eyes of your community.

37:11

Yes. The Azure community. You're making that agreement. Right?

37:13

So that's also in the Azure community. You're making

37:15

an agreement together that you're all gonna follow these principles.

37:18

And you're gonna forgive people and you get help

37:20

people when, you know, you're gonna put money together

37:22

when someone needs something,

37:23

something goes out of the community.

37:25

If you have

37:25

a moral dilemma, you're gonna remind yourself.

37:27

You know what? Like, I should do the right thing even.

37:29

It's

37:29

gonna be

37:30

harder. Yeah. But but people are, like,

37:32

famous. It's, like, famous for being, like,

37:34

very generous to other people that are in their church Like,

37:37

I I know of many friends who go to church,

37:39

and they'll talk about how the church raised money

37:41

because someone had something wrong inside their

37:43

church, and they they needed, you know, something fixed

37:45

something and they they help each other out. So it's like,

37:48

you don't you just get this feeling of, like,

37:50

family when you're part of a community church.

37:52

It's like you go to see each other on Sunday, you

37:54

look forward to it, everybody dresses up.

37:56

It's a net positive. The

37:58

the the problem that people have is with

38:00

the taking of stories

38:03

that are very very old as

38:06

just fact. That's the only problem

38:08

that people have with it. The the the if if

38:10

you looked at the net positives that come out

38:12

of religions like over other than

38:15

when they go sideways. Right?

38:17

Like, when they impose their religion on

38:19

others and and go into what? But that's like

38:21

natural human dominance characteristics.

38:24

That are exhibited through like the

38:27

guise of religion. The the

38:29

the best aspects of religion are just

38:31

living your life with a purpose.

38:34

It gives you like a scaffolding to

38:36

think about like moral values

38:40

and

38:40

community values and

38:42

and that there's a a higher thing

38:44

above you, which helps dissolve the

38:46

ego, and helps you be humble. Also

38:48

I think the idea of live as if someone's

38:50

watching. Yeah. And I think that's something I

38:52

don't think you need religion for that, but if someone

38:54

needs a religious framework to live

38:57

this kind of ethical life and, like, make sure

38:59

when you go to sleep, you can honestly

39:01

say I tried to do the right thing as much

39:03

as I could to the best of my ability. I think

39:05

that's kind of a good thing. The other the issue

39:07

I have is their big suspicion

39:10

of pleasure or happiness. Yeah.

39:12

There's a lot of that with religion that if you're

39:14

having fun or if you are

39:17

happy, and I know I'm gonna get pushed

39:19

back on this, some you did

39:21

something wrong along the way.

39:22

Especially fear of pleasure. Black people

39:24

win. Black churches are the most

39:26

fun. Yeah. Things of all time. Like,

39:29

do you see Biden at the Black Church? And he's

39:31

just standing there, like, he doesn't know how to

39:33

move. My gosh. He's just standing there and everybody

39:35

around of his dancing. They're all having great fucking

39:37

time. They know how to do it,

39:38

dude. They know how to do it. That

39:40

that was that's actually one of Neil Hamburgers'

39:42

lines. That when he tells a joke that bombs, he'll

39:44

say, would that have been funny if there's a black quire

39:46

behind me?

39:47

Eveyis

39:51

is probably yes. You know,

39:52

Welch does it right? Those fucking the

39:54

the people speak in tongues. They just

39:56

come on. They're like snake charters. You

39:58

know what that's, like, the charismatic. Well, the people that

40:00

speak in tongues, will they just go off and shawman, blah, blah,

40:02

blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? That is, like, that's,

40:04

like, verbal mosh pit. That's what it's like. There's,

40:06

oh, God. And everything's

40:09

like Jesus speaks through him. Jesus

40:11

speaks through him. There's something about

40:13

that too. There's something super entertaining about

40:16

that old Sam Kennison style revival

40:19

church type preacher. Like,

40:22

that's a fucking entertaining thing to

40:23

watch. It's also kinda harkens back to, like,

40:25

the Greek bakkenal's where

40:28

everyone's just drunk and just having

40:30

orgies and -- Yeah.

40:30

-- losing their minds. It's it's the same kind

40:33

of thing. It's like you believe Jimmy Swaggart

40:35

because he's led you into his

40:37

little realm of control and

40:39

he's he's your cult leader. You know,

40:41

if you believe that guy. If you're on t, he's like,

40:43

I've sinned. Ma'am, ma'am, when he got caught

40:46

with,

40:46

like, hookers and Was it, like, hookers

40:48

and blow? Was

40:48

that what it was? Is is he the one that was selling

40:51

rice and cheesy broccoli? No.

40:53

That's the other guy. Jim Baker. Okay. Jim

40:55

Baker is selling apocalypse

40:57

food. It's it's cheesy broccoli.

41:01

But he had apocalypse food that was, like, under

41:03

the table and you would use it as a

41:05

table and say they were showing how you get stored

41:07

around the house. And instead of like having

41:09

table legs, you could have all this

41:11

boxed food under your

41:13

table. Like, it's one of the wildest

41:15

things you've ever seen in your life. But it's also really

41:17

parent people. If you guys are in his

41:20

organization, shouldn't you be the

41:22

ones getting raptured?

41:22

Like, shouldn't you be, like, the hundred

41:24

Oh, god. There he is eating it. Bulk

41:27

sampler bundle. Imagine This

41:29

is the guy that was this

41:30

no. This has the Sam Kenneth in connection too

41:33

because he was

41:35

he had the affair with Jessica Horn

41:37

-- Right. -- who was the secretary of the hot secretary.

41:39

And Jessica Hahn wound up fucking Sam

41:42

Kennison, and they had a I forgot about that.

41:43

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They had terrible breakup. They had

41:45

talked shit about each other on Howard Stern. What

41:48

do you think of with Howard's become recently?

41:51

Well, he's the only person I know

41:53

who's gone other than Penn maybe who's gone from

41:55

being red pill to blue pill. Yeah.

41:59

For people who don't know, let me do a little because

42:01

the kids these days don't know. Howard

42:03

Stern had a guy in his show stuttering John.

42:05

And he would send them out to talk to

42:07

celebrities. And he would ask them

42:09

the most fucked up questions. And

42:12

this wasn't before this before social media, they

42:14

had a usually, she's had a a bear. You can't

42:16

just tweet at someone. So when Jennifer

42:18

Flowers in ninety two was announcing

42:20

that she had an affair with Bill Clinton, people thought he was

42:22

gonna think his candidacy he said his boy there and he asked

42:24

her, did he use a condom? And then

42:26

he asked her, are you planning on sleeping with any

42:29

other presidential candidates? And the

42:31

the reporters there were apeshit and they're trying to

42:33

kick him out, but, like, he would do he went ahead

42:35

and it's really kind of funny when he had these

42:37

comedians who had, like, a stick up their ass. Like,

42:39

I remember he talked to Billy Crystal, and

42:42

Bill Crystal, like, oh, let me have it. And he's like,

42:44

alright. Are you gonna be making sequel to mister

42:46

Saturday Night, like his big bomb? And the

42:48

look on Billy Crystal's face, just the

42:50

pure rage, was absolutely hilarious.

42:53

God. That's hilarious. Yeah. He did

42:55

some wild shit. And then, I guess,

42:57

he had a falling out with Howard, then he went

42:59

over to Jay Leno. Yeah. Now

43:01

he's the announcer, the Jay Leno.

43:03

So that was a great gig for him. No.

43:05

But what And he was, like, very underrated.

43:07

Like, he just was willing to but there was, like, that

43:09

what what he had created was a

43:12

morning show that

43:14

you had to listen to.

43:15

Like, you would go to work and you go, oh my god.

43:18

Do you hear Howard? Right. Do you hear it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do

43:20

you hear And he he did it every day.

43:22

And it's a it was a super

43:24

valuable thing because it didn't

43:26

exist anywhere else. We if

43:28

we're around today, we have all these,

43:31

like, social media memes that are

43:33

hilarious and fucked up. We have, like,

43:35

Reddit threads that are hilarious. There's

43:38

a lot of stuff out there where people being

43:40

outrageous.

43:40

But back then, there was.

43:43

Right?

43:43

It was just So you had a boring ass

43:45

fucking job where you're, like, sitting

43:47

in a truck all day, delivering packages or

43:49

whatever it is. And in that morning, when you

43:51

get to work, you're listening to Howard fucking

43:53

Stern. And he's got some lady who's riding

43:55

on a vibrator And she's

43:57

like, remember he had the with that thing. The city

43:58

was the city was Yeah. The city had a different

44:00

gals ride on the snow.

44:02

He had it was even worse. If people

44:05

want to promote, like, their band, the

44:07

mom would be controlling it or the son would

44:09

be controlling

44:09

it, the mom would be sitting on it. Oh, brother's sister.

44:11

And you're sitting there, you just wanna kill yourself. Jesus

44:14

Christ. He just went so he just

44:16

went for it, and he got

44:18

fined by the

44:19

FCC. We're big for you

44:21

saying, like, lessy, less ins and lust or something

44:23

like that. It was I don't think it was during the

44:25

bush era, and this was back when

44:27

the right was trying to censor people. Right. And

44:29

this is our pivot and our shift again.

44:32

You know, it's really kind of fascinating.

44:34

It really is. It really it really like,

44:37

the culture shift between right

44:39

and left authoritarianism. Now people

44:41

don't recognize that the

44:43

If you just stopped looking at it in terms of

44:45

red and blue, look at the actions whether

44:48

it's war, suppression of free

44:50

speech, of pharmacological interventions

44:53

that are mandatory -- Right. -- whatever whatever

44:56

the fuck it is. That used to all be associated

44:58

with the authoritative right,

45:00

authoritarian right. And now

45:02

those things are being embraced by the left.

45:05

And I just think it's a I think it's just

45:07

an ideology thing, and think we get confused

45:09

and we think we're on the right side.

45:11

We're on the right side. And if it's our side of

45:13

saying this,

45:13

for sure it's the right thing to do. And no

45:16

one's critically thinking about this. I'm

45:18

gonna play

45:20

devil's advocate because sometimes I

45:22

feel like we need more of that because

45:24

have you heard this show called Milt Manner? I

45:27

have. We played a preview, and I'm

45:29

hoping it is what we thought it was.

45:31

Oh, I've been watching it.

45:32

Is it the sons of the ladies? Oh, yeah.

45:34

Okay. Of course. So you have a

45:37

group of young dudes. The youngest

45:39

is twenty. And

45:41

they're in a house with their own

45:43

moms. Yeah. And it's like a dating pool.

45:45

That's the dating pool. Right. And the first

45:47

episode, they had to feel their son's

45:50

blindfolded. They had to feel the son's torso to

45:52

guess who their son was. And you're watching

45:54

this. And these are not, by the way,

45:56

the women seem kind of classy. They have

45:58

jobs they're professionals. They don't

46:01

look like complete gutter ants.

46:03

And you're watching and you're like, this

46:05

is why we need an atom

46:07

bob to, like, destroy the destroy the

46:09

world because I'm like, I and I

46:11

can't not watch. I can't not

46:14

watch. And you're wondering, like, who's gonna end which

46:16

everything come on. Isn't it fun that that's

46:18

a real thing? Isn't it fun? If you

46:20

went back to, like, Wheel of Fortune and you

46:22

know what, you know what the new game show is gonna

46:24

be like? Well,

46:27

you you're talking to me.

46:28

Right? I hosted fucking fear factor.

46:30

That's

46:30

right. Yeah. When I

46:31

when I I hosted fear factor for six years.

46:33

That's right. That was the

46:34

worst thing. Yeah. I did, like I don't know how

46:36

many episodes we did. It's

46:38

like a hundred and forty

46:40

episodes. There's a weird thing. Is like,

46:42

oh, no. People are nude and walking down a runway.

46:44

Yeah. And now it's

46:45

like, yeah, I'm just dating my I'm just my mom's

46:47

trying to date my bro. I was saying while

46:49

we were doing it. I was always making fun of ago,

46:51

we're about three seasons away from the running

46:53

man. All we need is one

46:55

natural disaster. I was always joking about

46:57

it on set. Because one of things about fear

47:00

factor. Episode one

47:02

through four, I did sober. Okay? That's

47:04

it. The whole thing,

47:06

I was high as a kite. Every

47:08

time I did it, I was high as a kind. It was the only

47:10

time was fun because then it became really

47:12

fun. Because before that, it was like, I

47:14

wish these guys didn't I I would get

47:16

this, like, pity in

47:17

me, like, caught up. Well, III wouldn't wanna eat an animals

47:20

dick on Right.

47:20

I wish I wish these people like, didn't

47:22

need to get their credit card debt paid so badly

47:24

that they're I don't wanna do this to them. It's

47:26

not my idea. There was a couple of times I told them

47:28

don't do it. Like, I there was only two times

47:30

in the history of the show. Where I went to the the

47:32

producers. I'm like, don't do what were they?

47:34

One of them was bull riding. Okay. They

47:36

were gonna have these people ride bulls. Okay.

47:39

And the the fucking stuntmen

47:42

are incredible. First of all, stuntmen are a different

47:44

breed of humor. Yeah. They're dudes who don't

47:46

give a fuck if they break an arm. They're

47:48

they're fucking men. They're

47:50

all these, like, two spin. One of them,

47:52

this guy, Perry, he he

47:55

didn't he didn't spit his

47:57

his dip out because he was so used

47:59

to being on

48:00

sets. He got used to swallowing his

48:03

dip. So he's just

48:04

like, god. Yeah. Yeah. So he's got dipping

48:06

his mouth and instead of spitting this alive out,

48:08

he's swallowing it. Is

48:10

that

48:10

gonna make you sick? Not him. Fuck.

48:13

He did. I'll take long. So

48:16

all these folks who were the stuntmen, are

48:18

these fucking rugged. They're all like

48:20

martial artists. They all have fucking broken

48:22

knee caps and shit. They're all animals. Right?

48:25

And so their version of, like, what's

48:27

dangerous physically is different than my version?

48:30

I'm, like, that's a bull And so this

48:32

dude says to me goes, don't worry about boots, just

48:34

a stunt bull. I go just a bull nose.

48:36

Yeah. What stunt does that need? They're less

48:38

aggressive. Okay. By what

48:40

measure? By what? It's almost

48:42

two thousand pounds. Dude, and they're

48:44

in the cage. Right? And they're but but but but

48:46

but but but but but they're trying to get out of the

48:48

cage. I'm like, don't do this.

48:51

I'm like, don't do this. I'm we

48:53

just rolled the dice. They rolled the dice. Was everyone

48:54

okay? Everyone

48:55

was okay. Luckily. But this

48:57

one light girl. She was light.

48:59

She was like hundred pounds.

49:00

This thing fucking launched

49:03

her through the air. And then kicked

49:05

backwards and almost

49:06

hit her head. Oh my god. Like like this,

49:09

it was terrifying. I mean, she lands on her

49:11

back. Like, it's rough. wouldn't

49:14

have done it. I mean, I would not have done

49:16

it. And I know there's guys out there that ride bulls and they

49:18

know what the fuck they're doing and their animals and I respect

49:20

it. It's not that I I don't think you should

49:22

do it. Like, I think if you wanna do flips

49:24

on a BMX bike, I want you to

49:26

do. Yeah. But be

49:27

informed of what you're doing. Yeah. Learn

49:29

how to do it. Yeah. But don't just jump on it

49:31

for a fucking TV show. What was

49:33

the other one? The other one was drinking come.

49:36

What? They had to drink donkey come?

49:39

Yeah, exactly. So here's me. Right?

49:41

Imagine me showing up at work. What do they have to do

49:43

today? High is a guy. Right? And

49:45

they're like, well, we're gonna make them play

49:47

horseshoes. To drink donkey come.

49:50

I go, what? How do they donkey urine

49:52

too. How do you how do

49:53

you say cow on ash on on corporate

49:55

TV? Well, sperm. Sperm use that. Okay. I think.

49:57

Okay. What what do you call it? House.

49:59

Yeah. Okay. Maybe semen? Okay. Right?

50:01

What's the technical Spur. Juice is

50:04

what they call it in the juice. Donky juice.

50:06

Donky juice. It's clear what it is.

50:08

Yeah. Wow.

50:09

What the fuck? How much did they have to drink?

50:11

A lot It seems like it'd be hard to drink

50:14

wine worse. It seems like it'd be hard to drink

50:15

wine. Oh my gosh. So they were all twins.

50:17

It was a twins episode. Twin boys

50:19

and twin girls, and they drank sperm

50:23

and urine. It's

50:25

I was like, don't do this. But this

50:27

is the thing.

50:28

This is what happens when this

50:30

is an MB

50:31

I remember I was Someone from

50:32

NBC gave this the

50:34

green light. Though

50:35

She's I'm buying. How

50:37

weird? She looks Marilyn May. While she's drinking

50:39

gum. This is horrible. Takes her

50:41

back to prom night. I

50:44

I remember one episode very vividly

50:46

because they had to eat bowl testicles.

50:48

And that's

50:49

nothing. That's right. But the thing is it was

50:52

these huge dudes, and this girl's, like, hundred pounds,

50:54

and she's, like, it's not that it's testicles. Like, this is just

50:56

a lot of food. Yeah.

50:57

Like, to get down. Like, it's like a pound

50:59

of food in five minutes. I can't do that. Right.

51:01

Especially for small people listening. There's

51:03

this one guy who is he had to

51:05

eat

51:06

I can't forget what organ it was. It was like

51:08

a dried gallbladder or something like that.

51:10

Okay. And or kidney.

51:12

And he's you have certain amount

51:14

of time to do it. And if you don't complete

51:17

it and have it swallowed within that time frame,

51:19

then you're out. And this guy was like eating

51:21

it and just say, this is no problem.

51:23

No problem at all. And he was kinda joking around

51:25

and doing it kinda slow. And then

51:28

as time was going on, I was like, hey man, you

51:30

you go, you only got, like, three minutes left.

51:32

And he's and then he starts panicking and starts,

51:34

like, and he's got you can't drink water.

51:35

Like, he's

51:36

not drinking water right. He's doing it. So he's trying to swallow

51:38

it. He can't. And he gets, like, super frustrated

51:40

at the end of it. He's got a chunk of it. And he he never swallowed

51:43

all of it. So he got so upset. He's

51:45

just fucking screaming. Yeah. I was, like, fuck.

51:48

Fuck. Like, it's volume. Yeah.

51:50

It's a lot of volume. And you're not allowed to

51:52

drink water. Like, in the beginning, you think you're gonna

51:54

be okay. But then as time goes on, you're

51:56

like, oh my god, it's hard to swallow all this shit.

51:59

You know, you're chewing some

52:01

fucking kidney, that's some dried

52:04

up kidney. Do you ever look back? Like,

52:06

I think a lot of people look back on the Trump presidency,

52:08

like, that really happen? Like, did you look back and

52:10

look at that my

52:11

life, like, for six years? Well, I look at my life

52:13

right now. What the fuck are you talking about? I

52:15

looked just My whole life has been like that.

52:17

From day one, right out of the womb, oh,

52:19

fuck is this? Yeah.

52:21

Yeah. All of it. Doesn't make any sense.

52:23

But that's just who I am. I don't

52:25

know.

52:25

I don't know what to do. Did they bring it back

52:27

or try to? Yeah. They did. We brought it back, and that

52:29

was what killed it. It was the donkey come. Oh, that was

52:31

the reboot. That was the reboot. Yeah. We did

52:34

I feel like was just too they were

52:37

going too far. It was scary that shit out of me.

52:39

Like, the stunts were too extreme. They

52:41

were extreme to the point where I was like, hey. Someone

52:43

could fucking die. Like,

52:46

I know we're pulling this off, but if we

52:48

don't pull it off, like, the bull

52:50

was in the original episodes. And

52:52

the bowl one was, like, early on in the show.

52:54

And I just think that the producers just,

52:56

like, trusted the stunt guys. And I just

52:58

think the stunt guys are just so next

53:00

level tough. And they're used to dealing

53:03

with, like, stunt people. And I'm used to dealing

53:05

with, like, some contestants on a

53:07

a television show. And as time went on, they became

53:09

much more conservative. Like, they didn't do things like

53:11

that again. Like I would say, after that,

53:14

most of the

53:15

stunts for the whole rest of the first seasons

53:18

were, like, reasonable risks. They did a good

53:20

job of managing that.

53:21

None of them freaked me out, but the new

53:23

ones freaked me out. The new ones, they had

53:25

like this helicopter thing and you got was

53:27

a bungee cord under the helicopter and you get

53:29

launched towards the helicopter. I was like, like,

53:32

what is it things break Like,

53:34

you're you're like you got people hanging over a canyon.

53:37

It was so wild. They were

53:39

tied to a tree and they had to, like, unlock themselves.

53:42

And as they unlock themselves, they hit

53:44

a thing and they go launching because there's

53:46

a bungee cord that attaches them to

53:48

a fucking helicopter that's hanging over

53:51

a canyon. So they go flying

53:53

through the air. And then bounce down

53:55

over this canyon. I'm like, any

53:58

wrong calculation, any weird

54:00

wind, any fuck and, like, the

54:03

fraying of the ropes, the

54:05

failure of the metal that's the clasp

54:07

that holds the bungee cord to the fucking

54:09

helicopter. I

54:11

was like, this is -- Oh my god. -- this

54:13

was terrifying, dude.

54:15

This terrified

54:17

the shit out of me. It really did.

54:19

Oh my god.

54:21

So as they unlock themselves yeah.

54:26

guess they didn't have to hit anything. I think they

54:28

just they they have to figure out all the keys. So

54:30

it's a race. You have a whole handful of keys and

54:33

you can get

54:33

lucky. You can get lucky and get that

54:35

key the first time that once she gets launched. Like, look at

54:37

that

54:37

really crap. Bureaus, fuck

54:39

all that. Just

54:42

fuck all that. I can't

54:44

even stand being like on a top of tall

54:46

building. Like, I get I get vertigo.

54:48

We

54:48

did a lot of tall building stuff too. I'd look over the

54:50

edge like, oh,

54:50

yes. I I can't handle that shit at all. Even if

54:52

I'm just hanging out a party, I'm like, I can't be near the edge.

54:54

I get vertigo. Yeah. We had people walk cross

54:56

beams that were set between two buildings in

54:58

downtown LA.

54:59

But they at least have something attached in the front

55:01

of a wall harnesses. Yeah. That is fine. Shit.

55:03

But that was when I first found out about Skid Row.

55:06

I didn't know about Skid

55:07

row. It's real. It's a real street. I didn't know that either.

55:09

Well, I didn't know how bad it it was

55:11

so bad on the early two. Wait.

55:13

It's crazy. Have you seen those videos? And, like,

55:15

people just do these YouTubes. They just walk on it's

55:17

just tenth after ten after ten after

55:19

ten. Well, I had that guy from Soft

55:21

White under Billy. What's that gentleman's name again?

55:23

More. Yeah. We'll

55:26

we'll pull it up. But he's

55:28

done a lot of interviews

55:30

with these people from down there. Have you ever seen

55:32

soft white underbelly on YouTube? It's

55:34

really good, dude. Really good. He's

55:37

a really good interviewer. And

55:39

he interviews all of these people

55:41

that Mark

55:44

later. Okay. Sorry, Mark. I

55:47

have no no more room in my brain.

55:49

My brain's fucked. But this this

55:52

show that he has on YouTube, he interviews like

55:54

pimps and gang members and

55:57

people who are addicted to heroin. It's

56:01

street hookers, people with schizophrenia. He

56:04

interviews these this inbred

56:06

family in the the hills of West

56:08

Virginia, like like, the whole family's

56:10

in bread. It's it's crazy. Like,

56:12

the sun talks and barks. He just barks

56:14

like a dog. Like, when you see them,

56:16

it's like, it's so wide. Like

56:18

that x files episode?

56:20

I'll show it to you because it's it's so

56:22

crazy that it's people don't

56:24

believe it. It's

56:25

like our crumb shit. Beyond

56:27

beyond. But he he interviews people and he's,

56:29

like, really kind and he's very

56:32

non judgmental. So he gets people to

56:34

talk about all kinds of stuff. Like how they got

56:36

into prostitution. What was it like

56:38

the first time they did drugs? When did they know they

56:40

were hooked? Oh my god. This is the whole

56:42

family. Oh my god.

56:43

Dude, it's crazy. This is hills have ice.

56:45

Yeah.

56:45

Yeah. You hear that guy the barking?

56:48

That's that's the sun.

56:50

He barks. Yeah.

56:55

Let's find some of the videos. This is the

56:57

guy. Here you go. Odd West Virginia. You

56:59

have a wife. So

57:02

this is a guy who is, like, in his

57:04

probably fifties or sixties.

57:05

And you're you're family. You you lost your

57:07

brother since it was your last. Don't

57:11

tell me about your burden. He

57:16

can't talk. So, like, a question

57:19

like that. They can't he can't answer. He can't

57:21

answer. He can say yes to things like as Bark's

57:23

and he not

57:24

can he but he can understand. He understands

57:26

some things, but like him saying, tell me about your brother.

57:28

He probably got uncomfortable, which is why he left because

57:31

he can't talk.

57:31

What's what's your favorite favorite way? Do you remember

57:33

anybody else?

57:36

I can't this is the most uncanny

57:38

valley shit I've ever seen. Yeah. It's a whole

57:40

family

57:40

too. It's not just this

57:41

They just don't fucking each other. Well,

57:44

we went over this before, but it

57:46

was was like more than

57:48

in bread.

57:48

It was like in breads, in breeding.

57:52

Oh

57:52

my god. Yeah. And the whole Look

57:54

at that guy in the sofa. The whole family's

57:56

like that. Fuck. Some of them can talk. One of

57:58

them graduated high school. Give me some volume

58:00

on

58:00

this, so we can do this. What are your names?

58:07

I'm sorry. What was who's this? been

58:10

drunk. Ray? No. I never way.

58:12

I thought it back to you. Right? Do you remember? Years

58:15

ago. See, that's what he can do. He can nod

58:17

and and yes. You could ask him yes

58:19

or no questions. Is

58:22

that Tim George's girl and and Alright.

58:25

What's the name here? So I do love

58:27

being it. I'm the opposite side, Tim. It's

58:30

It's like when Clark

58:32

can't take his glasses off.

58:33

Like, how? Like, nobody recognizes Superman

58:36

with those stupid glasses. I I have

58:37

Tim Pool's beanie hanging in my house. Next

58:39

to Alex Jones, this is Tinfoil hat. So this is,

58:42

you know, this is just one of his crazy video.

58:44

His his many, many, many videos.

58:46

In oh, it even says

58:47

in for a family, the widaker, Yeah. It's

58:49

I mean, the the

58:51

thirty six million views, holy crap. Yeah.

58:54

Oh, this is an update. There's this is the sequel.

58:56

Yeah. Well, there's a lot of different video too. Yeah.

58:58

He's he went back and visited them.

59:00

He he's visited them more than once. Right.

59:04

We tried to help out and But it's

59:06

like the the the community is very protective

59:08

of

59:08

them. So he had to Oh, good. Okay. I'm glad that they're,

59:10

like, being not, like, bullied

59:12

and and and Why do you think they probably

59:14

happen? A lot. Well, sure. But if the community is looking

59:17

out for them, that's good. Yeah. They when when strangers

59:19

come around, then other people from community

59:21

come around investigate. Okay. So he had

59:23

that happen. Okay. Good. Yeah. So it's good.

59:26

But Mark is I don't like it. He's in Skid

59:28

row every day. They're like filming. He,

59:30

you know, pays people and does

59:32

interviews with him. And he's

59:34

just sort of documenting

59:39

some aspects of our society that

59:41

you you you don't get a chance to

59:43

see the humanity in these people.

59:45

You just see people living on the street.

59:47

And you don't, you know, you don't

59:50

think of them as being like someone's

59:52

daughter or someone's son or someone's

59:54

someone's sister or

59:55

mother. Like, you just think, oh, this fucking

59:58

loser, junky. You know, look at this loser.

1:00:00

Well, I

1:00:00

mean, a lot of them are just mentally ill. Right. A

1:00:03

lot of them are really self medicating. Some of them are

1:00:05

not they don't seem that mentally ill. What

1:00:07

it seems like is their their products of

1:00:09

horrible abuse. So this is

1:00:12

Los Angeles in twenty twenty three. If you

1:00:14

drive down the street, it is a fucking

1:00:16

dystopian nightmare that

1:00:18

you couldn't imagine.

1:00:20

The entire sidewalk on

1:00:22

both sides is filled

1:00:23

with heads. Yeah. I

1:00:25

mean, it's just so it's so

1:00:28

insane the sheer numbers

1:00:30

of homeless, that

1:00:32

if this was zombies, if this

1:00:34

was zombies instead of homeless people,

1:00:36

like people we

1:00:38

would be overwhelmed with zombies.

1:00:40

But it would be like a zombie. You would have to

1:00:43

leave. But Joe, Austin was like this.

1:00:45

Not that bad. It wasn't but it was certainly in that direction.

1:00:47

He was

1:00:47

on that

1:00:48

remember how he cleaned a lot of it up, but I've

1:00:50

been informed that they didn't clean it up by the

1:00:52

lake. A bit informed that if you go by the

1:00:54

lake,

1:00:54

there's a lot of homeless people. But I

1:00:56

remember walking down Caesar's shelters. It

1:00:58

was tent after tent after tent. Mhmm.

1:00:59

I was

1:01:00

with a friend and it was it was very disturbing.

1:01:02

So it something happened during the

1:01:04

pandemic where it really accelerated, you

1:01:06

know, the because of the economic stress

1:01:09

that people went under, and think the the

1:01:11

mental health stress that a lot of people went under.

1:01:13

And, you know, so many people just lost it.

1:01:16

And, you know, so many people

1:01:19

got fired. I mean, you think about the unprecedented

1:01:21

loss of jobs during the the lockdown.

1:01:24

And what kind of an increase that must have had

1:01:26

in

1:01:26

homelessness. Must be off the charts. Well,

1:01:28

I just don't understand the argument for people

1:01:30

who think this is something that's like,

1:01:32

ideal or good or

1:01:34

acceptable? You don't have to fix that.

1:01:36

Right. Like, are you guys the government or

1:01:38

not? Are you in charge of everything, including our

1:01:40

health?

1:01:40

So if you are, aren't

1:01:42

you doing something about that? Especially because

1:01:44

the people who aren't there who are mentally ill, maybe they're

1:01:46

drug addicts. They're the victims of violence from the

1:01:48

others too.

1:01:49

It's all like it's safe for them or it's not ideal

1:01:51

for them. I don't understand

1:01:51

that. I've never heard good argument for why

1:01:53

this is allowed to happen. They're sleeping in cloth

1:01:56

houses on the street

1:01:57

with a bunch of other mentally ill people.

1:01:59

Like, the the possibility of dangers

1:02:01

off the charts. And it's almost like we

1:02:03

have two worlds that are going on

1:02:05

simultaneously. Right? You have the world

1:02:07

that you and I live in, and then you have

1:02:09

homeless tent world where it's basically

1:02:12

like fucking Mad Max and no one's

1:02:14

doing jack shit about it and who

1:02:16

knows who's running things and who's fucking

1:02:18

who and who's given people drugs

1:02:20

and who's shitting on the sidewalk,

1:02:23

and it's it's happening in the same

1:02:25

city. So you've got guys like

1:02:27

you, that are living great. You

1:02:30

got a nice place and look at the view

1:02:32

and you have your coffee at the local coffee

1:02:34

shop and three blocks away is

1:02:36

Mad Max. And it's it's you're talking

1:02:38

about thousands and thousands

1:02:40

of people living like

1:02:41

this. It's not a hundred. But the question

1:02:44

I always ask is who's this benefiting? Because someone's

1:02:46

benefiting from this if it's being allowed to happen.

1:02:48

Well,

1:02:48

my friend, Colion. Colion Noir. Oh,

1:02:50

I know. Yeah. Colion, he

1:02:53

was a lawyer. And he was

1:02:55

talking to this guy in San Francisco and he was

1:02:57

like, what's the problem? It's like they just don't

1:02:59

have any funding to fix this? And the guy

1:03:01

said, no. No. No. No.

1:03:04

The problem is there's a bunch of people that get

1:03:06

paid to work on the homeless

1:03:08

situation.

1:03:08

There it is. And they get big

1:03:10

salaries. Okay. Big salaries.

1:03:12

Six figures. One of

1:03:14

them was like two hundred plus thousand

1:03:16

dollars working on homelessness

1:03:19

and not doing a very good job with it. I

1:03:21

mean, like, what are you doing to fix it?

1:03:23

What are you doing to fix it when it's this big? If

1:03:25

you anybody that says they're working

1:03:27

on the whole well, this is our solution on and you go

1:03:29

down Skid row. Like, you failed.

1:03:32

Like, you guys failed. Like, this is a national

1:03:34

this is like a it's a national

1:03:37

tragedy. Like, that that this exists

1:03:39

in every city. It's it should be we

1:03:41

should be embarrassed by it, and it should

1:03:43

be fixed as quickly as possible.

1:03:45

It should

1:03:45

be like our one of our number one priorities

1:03:48

is not let people camp out in the

1:03:50

streets all night long everywhere. Well,

1:03:52

it's

1:03:52

thick when there's some kind of big event coming through town.

1:03:54

They they round them up, they put them somewhere, and then

1:03:56

this perverts to normal. Shuffle them. We

1:03:58

have how much to send to Ukraine? We

1:04:00

we don't have enough to fix this. How did we

1:04:03

just develop that money to ship to Ukraine?

1:04:05

We because it was imperative. We needed that money.

1:04:07

It it it we don't need the money to fix these

1:04:09

homeless

1:04:09

situations? It was funny my buddy, John, who

1:04:11

lives in Burbank, who's one of my closest

1:04:13

friends. Like, when the proposition here

1:04:16

was on or the referendum whatever was on the ballot

1:04:18

to kind of clean up the make

1:04:20

it illegal to sleep on the street in a tent.

1:04:22

And he's like, I don't believe it. Like, where are

1:04:24

they gonna put all these people? And I go,

1:04:26

I don't care. Like, the point is house

1:04:29

them somewhere. They don't have to be have primetime

1:04:31

real estate, but this isn't good for them.

1:04:33

This isn't good for anybody. It's not good for anybody,

1:04:35

but the thing about the housing them is in many

1:04:37

situations, what happens is they make them be

1:04:39

clean. So if you wanna stay

1:04:41

yeah. If you wanna stay in this situation,

1:04:43

you have to be clean. Which

1:04:47

is, you know, like, they had this

1:04:49

one area outside of Brentwood. Had

1:04:52

something to do with some Veterans

1:04:54

Park or some point that where they allowed people

1:04:57

to to camp -- Okay.

1:04:58

-- to come up with the solution. We're gonna

1:05:00

allow you to camp out in this one area. We're gonna

1:05:02

provide you with these places

1:05:04

to sleep, but you have to be clean.

1:05:07

And so you know what happened? People put

1:05:09

tents just on the other side of the fence.

1:05:11

Okay. And

1:05:14

so they got all the benefits being right there,

1:05:16

but they could still do drugs. They got

1:05:18

all their community. Everyone's right there.

1:05:20

They you're free to come and go. Walk in and out

1:05:22

as you want. You

1:05:23

just can't sleep there. Do you

1:05:26

did you there's something else I wanna talk to you about?

1:05:28

I'm glad I remembered it. Did you hear and

1:05:30

I wanna hear your thoughts on it that my

1:05:32

second favorite politician. I forget the guy's

1:05:34

name. I'm so sorry. He introduced a

1:05:36

bill in the state legislature for

1:05:39

Brexit. For Texas to

1:05:41

become an independent country. And

1:05:44

if that's you you know, that was, like, with,

1:05:46

like, the last state to give in. Right?

1:05:48

Where Texas was?

1:05:50

I think if you go back and

1:05:52

look at Texas' original what it really

1:05:54

originally was,

1:05:55

it was like a Right. The Republic of Texas.

1:05:57

Yeah. Yeah. And there's still a house for the year.

1:05:59

What year did it become a state? Oh, I don't know. It's

1:06:01

gotta be, like,

1:06:02

eighteen thirties or forties, I

1:06:04

would guess. I think there

1:06:06

was a lot of people

1:06:06

that were super skeptical about joining the

1:06:08

union. AT4? Not okay. Not too

1:06:11

sure. Ten forty five. Yeah. The

1:06:13

twenty eighth, say, for for nine

1:06:14

years, it was his own country. That's

1:06:17

so

1:06:17

crazy. That's

1:06:19

so crazy.

1:06:20

But, I mean, what's your thoughts on that? I

1:06:22

think

1:06:22

it's a stupid idea. Why?

1:06:24

I'm all for it. I'm all for the rest of

1:06:26

the country. Yeah. And then we get invaded. Why?

1:06:28

By who? By the rest of the country. If

1:06:30

if they don't wanna be a part from all

1:06:32

these maniacs. Do you don't you don't wanna be in another

1:06:35

country than people that live in Oklahoma?

1:06:37

Listen, they hate each other enough about football.

1:06:39

Do you know how badly they'd hate each other

1:06:41

if if Texas was another country? There's lots

1:06:43

of good a passport to get in. There there there's

1:06:46

lots of countries I hate right now. I'm not interested

1:06:48

in avoiding them.

1:06:49

Well, look at Ukraine and look at Russia --

1:06:51

Right. -- right next to each other. What it what

1:06:53

do you don't think that there's a possibility in

1:06:55

the future? Like, maybe hundred years

1:06:57

from now. If Texas becomes country that, like,

1:06:59

New Mexico doesn't just invade

1:07:01

us? Wait. But the

1:07:01

the concern is that right now, Washington's

1:07:04

gonna invade us.

1:07:06

Right now. Yes.

1:07:07

If

1:07:08

we stay -- Yes. --

1:07:10

in what way? Meaning, if Texas

1:07:12

or Florida or any of these other states becomes

1:07:15

too defiant, or if it's the other way around. If

1:07:17

you have a Republican administration and some leftist

1:07:19

state decides to be like we're not gonna be enforcing

1:07:22

borders or immigration rules, someone

1:07:24

might send in the feds. And

1:07:26

they talk about it all. In fact, just just

1:07:28

governor Abbott had to stand up to

1:07:30

Biden and make this bill, or I don't

1:07:32

remember what exactly it was, but just insisting that the National

1:07:35

Guard's answer to him and not to

1:07:38

the

1:07:38

president. I know this is a bill in New Hampshire

1:07:40

as well, I think, called, like, Save the Guard. So Well,

1:07:42

that's why state's rights are important. Yeah.

1:07:45

But it's a lot easier to not

1:07:47

have to worry about d c than

1:07:50

to expect d c to lessen

1:07:52

their power. Yeah.

1:07:57

I don't know, man. I think we should

1:07:59

be moving towards

1:08:02

a better country. Yeah. That's what their public

1:08:04

of Texas would be. But I think

1:08:06

together collectively -- Yeah. -- us, Texas.

1:08:09

You're hilarious. It's true. I'm I'm could

1:08:11

not be able to just have

1:08:12

a passport if I need to go to Philly.

1:08:15

Why? So don't go to Philly? Oh, I'm

1:08:16

going to Philly, but you have a pass I do

1:08:18

shows. You have a passport. Yeah. But I wanna

1:08:20

use that every time I blind. What's the difference?

1:08:22

Hampshire. That's stupid.

1:08:23

Why

1:08:23

why you have to show idea of it? America.

1:08:25

Being America. I think we just need to figure

1:08:28

out why we're in these ideological rifts

1:08:30

that are so fucking polarizing and rabid.

1:08:33

I think we need to figure that out. I think that's

1:08:35

possible. Just like I think the hippie movement came

1:08:37

out of nowhere in the fifties, I think there's

1:08:39

like a radical, rational, centrist

1:08:42

movement that could come about today. I

1:08:44

really do. I think there's enough people like

1:08:46

you and I that just think This is

1:08:48

bananas. This subscribing

1:08:51

to one predetermined pattern

1:08:53

of behavior and fucking rules of thought

1:08:55

And the other one

1:08:56

is, like, polar opposite of it. And some

1:08:58

you could switch, but you can always switch once.

1:09:00

Well, yeah, that's perfect. So you have Texas.

1:09:02

And, yeah, I don't give a fuck.

1:09:05

And you could have your choice.

1:09:07

I do you think this is impossible that's gonna happen?

1:09:10

No. No. I don't think it's impossible. I think

1:09:12

if something really horrible happen, it could happen.

1:09:14

Yeah. III I'm something

1:09:16

went down.

1:09:16

I'm thinking of Nigel Farage when he was

1:09:18

on the floor of the EU at when

1:09:20

Brexit was executed. And he said,

1:09:23

when I came here seventeen years ago,

1:09:25

you all laughed at me. You're not laughing

1:09:27

now, are you? So I Seventeen

1:09:29

years from now, you could be correct. Yeah? It's

1:09:32

on the it's officially part of the Texas

1:09:34

Republican state their

1:09:37

bill. There's a bunch of things

1:09:40

platform. It's almost due respect for Texans. There's

1:09:42

a bunch of things that I don't know

1:09:44

if she give Texans the right to vote on.

1:09:46

Oh, I

1:09:47

don't know that we're gonna be a democracy once

1:09:49

Texas becomes free. Here's

1:09:50

a wild people live in the state.

1:09:53

Women's suffrage is gonna be a question. No.

1:09:55

I don't think that'll be

1:09:56

a problem. I mean, they had an Ann Richardson

1:09:58

was the governor. Ann

1:09:59

Richardson. Yeah. But that was -- Richard. -- over twenty years

1:10:01

ago. She

1:10:01

was a different kind of

1:10:02

Democrat though. She wasn't. Yeah. She

1:10:04

was. How She was different

1:10:05

than the ones you get today. It was, like,

1:10:07

three whoa. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. She was different than

1:10:09

what Democrat. Yeah. She was a Sassy Broad. Yeah.

1:10:11

And she was, like, a a strong woman.

1:10:13

Like, she was you know, you can't be like

1:10:15

a wimp. Yeah.

1:10:16

But she got her ass hand to her by George w

1:10:18

Bush. George

1:10:20

w Bush back then was not bad. There's

1:10:22

a there's a misconception. If you go and listen

1:10:24

to George W. Bush's speeches when he was running

1:10:26

for governor -- Sure.

1:10:27

-- and

1:10:27

then look at when what I don't know what decline.

1:10:30

What happened to him. What? But something happened

1:10:32

to his ability to speak Well,

1:10:35

people yes. So people forget this. In

1:10:37

two thousand, he debate Al Gore, who was a senator

1:10:39

for many years, very articulate, very bright

1:10:41

man, and he won or at least held

1:10:44

his own in those debates. Four years

1:10:46

later with John Carey, he wasn't speaking

1:10:48

complete sentences. Poland.

1:10:50

Do you think that he ran a ruse

1:10:52

on us? Ruse Yeah. Did

1:10:55

you think that This man this

1:10:57

man ran a hustle upon

1:11:00

us. Do you think that maybe

1:11:02

that's what he did? How so? Maybe

1:11:05

just play dumb. I got too heavy.

1:11:07

I'm gonna hand this fucking torch over to Cheney.

1:11:09

I don't wanna be over here painting. I

1:11:11

think he's clearly a lot smarter than

1:11:13

he led on. Yeah. That's right. And he and he

1:11:15

leaned into this kind of, like, good old boy

1:11:18

crap.

1:11:18

But I also the cable

1:11:19

guy. Yeah. That kind of

1:11:21

deal. Yeah. But I

1:11:23

don't know. I'm just very excited. I Larry's name

1:11:26

is Dan. Is it really? Hey. He's a hilarious comic.

1:11:27

Dan Whitney. He follows me here. Yeah. know.

1:11:30

Twitter. That is a great guy. It's a character.

1:11:32

It's

1:11:32

a character, and he's a funny joke writer.

1:11:34

He's a funny guy.

1:11:36

Well,

1:11:36

I'm good jokes.

1:11:37

I'm sitting here. I got Alex yesterday

1:11:39

to endorse the idea. You

1:11:41

have

1:11:41

an idea of leaving Texas? No.

1:11:43

Of leaving Texas. Texas. Texas.

1:11:45

And I think it's gonna happen. Well And here's the other

1:11:47

reason why I think it's gonna have a lot people into it.

1:11:50

If it was twenty fourteen and

1:11:52

I came into this room and I said,

1:11:54

which is more likely? Text, this is

1:11:56

gonna declare its independence, or Donald

1:11:58

Trump's gonna be your next president, everyone listening

1:12:01

to this, would put their money on text. And do you like to

1:12:03

do it?

1:12:06

I don't know. When when Trump ran for

1:12:08

press, I choked about it on my

1:12:10

Netflix special in two thousand

1:12:12

sixteen before the

1:12:13

election, People are laughing.

1:12:15

Yeah. The idea. I'm like, he can win. Yeah.

1:12:17

Of course. Any any can this is the other

1:12:19

thing that drives me crazy. Either

1:12:22

nominee can win. The idea that a

1:12:24

Kamala Harris can't win or Biden can't

1:12:26

win or Trump can't win, you're crazy. If you have

1:12:28

one to two numb parties behind

1:12:29

you, you have a fighting chance, period. Yeah.

1:12:32

I was saying that I hoped Hillary can win.

1:12:34

I hoped Hillary won because

1:12:36

I wanted them to have a woman president. They

1:12:38

can say, oh, women suck at this too. Everybody

1:12:40

sucks at that job. Julia,

1:12:42

there's no woman's gonna do a great job.

1:12:44

No man's gonna do great job. really is a

1:12:46

Louis Drive. This was tweeting about how, like, oh,

1:12:48

democracy is great. You should go out and vote. And I

1:12:50

I just replied to her, I go, you

1:12:52

won several Emmys. For showing

1:12:55

for years that politicians are sociopaths.

1:12:57

That was your characterization. Blocked

1:12:59

me instantly. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Isn't

1:13:01

that amazing? No. That's only the

1:13:03

character. Yeah.

1:13:03

It's not real life. It's real life. Everyone's

1:13:06

kind. They look out for the the the

1:13:08

average person. Yeah. And people just fucking

1:13:10

hang themselves thirty miles from their home

1:13:12

and shoot themselves in the chest and they find

1:13:14

no

1:13:15

weapon, but they they declare it a

1:13:17

suicide. Whatever whatever. Are

1:13:19

you Whatever whatever, Michael. Are

1:13:21

you are you white pill or black pill about the future

1:13:23

of this country? Oh, I'm okay. I'm okay.

1:13:26

What's that? I'm okay. I'm like a gray.

1:13:28

What does that mean? I'm like

1:13:28

a like, I don't like it now, but think

1:13:31

we'll have some of your days. Yeah. That's white. No.

1:13:33

It's gray.

1:13:34

It's white. I'm gray. It's not

1:13:36

black. It's not white. The white

1:13:38

pill's hope. Yeah. But I'm not totally

1:13:40

hopeful. Okay. The reality

1:13:42

of human life -- Yep. -- is that

1:13:44

we're subject to a host of

1:13:46

uncontrollable natural disasters that

1:13:48

are imminent. Yes. They're gonna happen. Yes.

1:13:50

Yellowstone is gonna blow. We're gonna get hit by

1:13:53

an asteroid. And we might nuke ourselves

1:13:55

too. Sure. Like, all that stuff is real

1:13:57

too. So that's all on the table. And also,

1:14:00

I've talked to enough

1:14:02

people that are,

1:14:05

like, really they're

1:14:07

really educated in the history of

1:14:10

ancient cultures ancient civilizations and

1:14:12

the evidence of natural disasters

1:14:15

wiping people out and people having to start from

1:14:17

scratch. It seems it seems like

1:14:19

we're a part of like this giant never ending

1:14:21

cycle of getting knocked back into the

1:14:23

stone age and then rebuilding to

1:14:25

a new version of complex society.

1:14:27

I think we're on a

1:14:29

version of that now, but I think there's been many versions

1:14:32

of that. Yeah. III think that that's also

1:14:34

on the table for us. But I think it'd be a lot easier

1:14:36

for us to bounce back than someone two thousand years ago

1:14:38

with our technology and and our ability to No.

1:14:41

No. No. Not at all. Not at

1:14:43

all. Because when it hits, first of all, very few

1:14:45

people survive and everything goes to shit,

1:14:47

there's no electricity no generators

1:14:50

worked, there's no one pumping oil. No

1:14:52

one knows how to make a

1:14:53

generator, and no one knows how to make a cell phone.

1:14:55

So all that technology's lost. Was

1:14:56

the Jim Baker people do it. So what what would

1:14:58

this be like a media? Other than a media hitting

1:15:00

your media or something like this?

1:15:01

Super Volcano would kill almost

1:15:03

all of us. The Yellowstone Super

1:15:05

Volcano it's a caldera volcano.

1:15:07

Like, they didn't they didn't realize that it

1:15:10

was so big until somewhere

1:15:12

in, like, the two thousands, think it was. They did

1:15:14

satellite imagery and they realized, oh my god,

1:15:17

that's the caldera of a volcano, like

1:15:19

this Yellowstone thing. We thought

1:15:21

it was just this crazy place with hot springs,

1:15:24

Like, no, that's a super volcano

1:15:26

that is a continent killer. And

1:15:28

it blows every six to eight hundred

1:15:30

thousand years and everyone dies.

1:15:33

Like, the whole fucking country dies.

1:15:35

And it happens every six to eight hundred

1:15:37

thousand

1:15:37

years. The last time it happened was, like, six So

1:15:39

see, that's another reason Texas should be its own

1:15:41

country. But we'll get we'll get hit.

1:15:44

We'll get hit. We're all gonna die. If

1:15:46

that happens, we're fucked. Like, maybe people in

1:15:48

New Zealand who live and those folks would be the

1:15:50

new people. You know, it's

1:15:52

happened before. Was it the toba? Was

1:15:54

that what it was? Yeah. In Indonesia, There

1:15:58

was a toba volcano in Indonesia seventy

1:16:00

thousand years ago. They think knocked the human race

1:16:02

down to a few thousand people. Holy shit.

1:16:04

Yeah. Okay. These things happen, man, and

1:16:06

they happen with regularity. In

1:16:09

terms of the if you look at the timeline

1:16:11

of the earth, they happen

1:16:13

all the time. It's just when?

1:16:16

Is it gonna happen now? Or is it gonna happen

1:16:18

a thousand years from now when we have enough technology

1:16:20

to mitigate its effects in some

1:16:22

way? But when it happens, you get nuclear

1:16:25

winter. Everything dies. No crops.

1:16:27

Nothing there's every everything's the sun

1:16:29

doesn't get through.

1:16:29

The the skies are filled with ash. You

1:16:31

can't live in food.

1:16:33

You can't really live your life with

1:16:35

concern about something like that happening. I'm not

1:16:37

living my wife's life with concern. I'm saying

1:16:39

that's also on the table. Sure. So that's why I'm gray.

1:16:41

Okay.

1:16:42

Get it. Because I I'm like, yeah. This hopefully,

1:16:45

it's gonna be great. You know, but

1:16:47

maybe not. And for all of us, the

1:16:49

end is gonna suck. I'm

1:16:51

I'm glad to hear you're more concerned

1:16:54

as I am if I had to choose between

1:16:57

natural disaster or like

1:16:59

we're all gonna end up killing each other. I'm

1:17:01

concerned with both, but

1:17:03

I'm I'm always concerned with things that people

1:17:05

are dismissive of or that they don't they

1:17:07

don't think of as a threat. Because that's

1:17:10

when they hit you. When when something

1:17:12

like, nobody like, people lived in Pompeo. Like,

1:17:14

that volcano? Don't worry about it. We're good.

1:17:16

I'd tell you'd have to worry about until, you know, they

1:17:18

just didn't understand. Like, you're you're in

1:17:20

a terrible spot to put a city. Like,

1:17:22

if that thing goes and it goes all the time,

1:17:24

It just doesn't go within your lifetime, so you don't

1:17:27

understand. Like, you're you're dealing with

1:17:29

an ant's timeline. You know, an

1:17:31

ant to us a

1:17:32

day. Ant, those are fucking

1:17:33

few days. Right. They're gone. We live

1:17:35

a hundred years if we're lucky. Volcanoes

1:17:38

are hundreds of thousands of

1:17:40

years of activity. And they go

1:17:42

on these long cycles, some of them these super

1:17:44

canals. And they just fucking blow when

1:17:46

you never know when it's gonna happen.

1:17:48

And that's they create fucking

1:17:50

islands in the middle of the ocean, That's what

1:17:52

Hawaii is.

1:17:53

Yeah. It's a fucking volcano that's

1:17:55

sprung out of the ocean. And now you go vacation

1:17:57

there and put fucking soon to the ocean.

1:17:59

Said, oh, they're gonna have Margaritas. You're on

1:18:01

a volcano. You're on the

1:18:04

the the creative and destructive

1:18:06

force of the earth, the thing

1:18:08

that makes mountains and you're camping out on

1:18:10

it. And that's what that's our life. That's

1:18:12

the reality of living on earth is this is

1:18:14

not stable. That's why all these nutty

1:18:17

people that are talking about climate change is gonna

1:18:19

kill us. It's gonna kill us. It's it's

1:18:21

not good. It's not good that we're polluting.

1:18:23

It's not good that we're having a net negative effect

1:18:26

on the atmosphere. But also, there's

1:18:28

so many other things to be concerned with

1:18:30

that we have zero solution

1:18:33

to super volcanoes. We have zero

1:18:35

solution to asteroid impacts. We

1:18:37

have zero solution to things that have wiped

1:18:39

out. We know they killed off the dinosaurs.

1:18:41

Right. Right. We know that we know it.

1:18:43

Wherever a hunters, they fucking find the crater

1:18:45

in the

1:18:46

Yucatan. They find craters

1:18:46

all over the place.

1:18:48

They found a big one in Greenland. Was

1:18:50

there one in Siberia or somewhere? Oh,

1:18:52

yeah. The Tom Gusco. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah.

1:18:54

That's the one that they think happened

1:18:56

during the time where earth passes through

1:18:59

this meteor shower. There's was

1:19:01

a comet shower, how they'd refer to it.

1:19:03

But there's I think it's every September no.

1:19:05

Every November and every June. We

1:19:08

pass through this thing. And

1:19:10

most of the time, it just gives you meteor

1:19:12

showers.

1:19:12

In the sky, you see, like, you know, people

1:19:14

get

1:19:14

excited about that. You can kinda predict when

1:19:16

that happens. Well, that's why they

1:19:18

know that it's gonna happen because it it happens

1:19:20

during these times we go through this meteor

1:19:23

shower. They think that that

1:19:25

is what happened in Tunguska

1:19:27

in the early nineteen hundreds because it happened

1:19:30

during that timeline. So whatever this thing

1:19:32

was, it didn't even make impact with the ground.

1:19:34

It detonated in the sky. And

1:19:36

it can't like a fuck like a million acres

1:19:39

or some crazy shit of trees. How

1:19:41

how how much did I know I exaggerated that

1:19:43

number.

1:19:43

How much did

1:19:44

it I think I did. How much did Tunguska

1:19:46

destroy? No. It was like some kind crazy bomb, equivalent.

1:19:49

A light bomb. Yeah. Well, that's what

1:19:51

they think happened to Earth around

1:19:53

eleven thousand eight hundred years ago. That's a younger

1:19:55

driest impact theory. It's during the same

1:19:57

timeline. Twelve

1:20:00

meg megaton explosion.

1:20:00

Jeez Louise.

1:20:03

Holy shit.

1:20:04

Look at that page. To his day, there's

1:20:06

no trees there. Seriously? Yes. To this day.

1:20:08

Why? Because it's fucking nuked.

1:20:10

How do you

1:20:11

pronounce it? It's not is it radioactive? It'll

1:20:13

just blew it out, man. I

1:20:15

don't know. It just blew out whatever fucking

1:20:19

It did to that area that

1:20:21

soil sucks. Holy

1:20:24

crap.

1:20:24

Is that crazy? Nineteen oh, wait. That

1:20:26

wasn't a long ago. So they think that's also what happened

1:20:29

at the end of the ice age. They think that

1:20:31

the Earth and, you know, that North America's

1:20:33

ice caps got smashed by

1:20:35

comets. And that's what caused

1:20:37

like the great lakes, and that's what caused

1:20:40

the took this mass erosion

1:20:43

topographical details in the earth.

1:20:45

That lead out to the ocean like these enormous

1:20:48

fucking floods. And that's probably

1:20:50

Noah's Ark flood. That's why and it probably

1:20:53

knocked human beings back into the fucking

1:20:55

stone age. Yet. So our idea of civilization

1:20:58

propping up or emerging around six

1:21:00

thousand years ago,

1:21:00

which they used to think, these guys

1:21:02

are saying it's probably way earlier than

1:21:04

that.

1:21:05

That was just a cycle. Twenty thousand every post. Yeah.

1:21:07

And that's how that explains the pyramids. That

1:21:09

explains these incredibly complex

1:21:12

geometric structures they built in Africa.

1:21:15

Who knows how many thousand years ago? How the

1:21:17

fuck did they do it? No one knows. No one

1:21:19

has any good ideas. All the ideas

1:21:22

suck. All of them are, like, ridiculous. And

1:21:24

the the the structures are insane. Like,

1:21:26

who did that? When did they do it?

1:21:28

you know, they think somewhere around

1:21:31

two thousand five hundred years BC. But

1:21:33

these guys are saying that you can't carbon

1:21:35

date stone.

1:21:36

This is all guesswork. And

1:21:38

it's really possible that it could be way earlier

1:21:40

than where

1:21:40

you know what I mean? Like the great pyramid? Yes.

1:21:43

They know who built the great pyramid. Don't know. They don't. No.

1:21:45

They definitely don't. No. They There's archaeologist

1:21:48

have attributed to certain pharaohs,

1:21:50

but there's a lot of problems with that. First of

1:21:52

all, the great pyramids, they said they

1:21:54

they think their tombs.

1:21:55

Right? Right.

1:21:56

But there's

1:21:56

no evidence of their tombs. Because they've never found,

1:21:58

like, furrows in

1:21:59

them or anything. Yeah. That aren't they

1:22:00

they're burial chambers? No. No. No. Those are different areas.

1:22:03

That's not the pyramids. Not the pyramids

1:22:04

themselves. The pyramids are so

1:22:06

massive. There's two million three

1:22:08

hundred thousand stones

1:22:09

Yes. The Great Pyramid. Great Pyramid

1:22:10

was the tallest building on Earth until, like,

1:22:13

eighteen sixty, I think. I mean, something crazy like that.

1:22:15

Yeah. There's stones that were cut from a quarry

1:22:17

that was five hundred miles away. Like,

1:22:19

they have no idea how they did that. No idea how

1:22:21

they moved them. No idea how they got them through the

1:22:23

mountains. They cut obelisks that

1:22:25

were like thousands of tons. They

1:22:27

moved them through the mountains and

1:22:29

got them hundreds of miles away.

1:22:32

They have no idea how they did that. They

1:22:34

were probably very sophisticated

1:22:36

but in a different way than us. They probably

1:22:39

had technology that we haven't figured out

1:22:41

yet because we went to combustion engines

1:22:43

and electricity and that's how we figured

1:22:46

out how to use human creativity

1:22:48

and constantly innovating when creating technology

1:22:50

that went in this way. But it's really

1:22:53

possible that another culture twenty

1:22:55

thousand years ago or whatever had figured

1:22:57

out a way to innovate the

1:22:59

way we have with combustion engines and electronics

1:23:02

but in a completely different way.

1:23:04

I don't know what they would use. I don't know how they

1:23:06

did it. But if you imagine

1:23:08

human beings going from the

1:23:11

Roman Empire two thousand years ago

1:23:13

to what we enjoy today. That's a tiny

1:23:15

blip in time when you're talking about

1:23:17

twenty thousand, thirty thousand years. If

1:23:20

these people figured out some form

1:23:22

of technology, some form

1:23:24

of technology that we still haven't figured out

1:23:26

yet, it's totally possible that that could

1:23:28

be the case. And if that's the case, they

1:23:30

got hit. They got boom.

1:23:33

Boom comments. Slammed

1:23:35

into the earth, a giant percentage

1:23:37

of the population died. The people that survived

1:23:40

clogged and scraped for generations

1:23:42

and they live like barbarians, and they forgot

1:23:45

everything. And then they rebuilt

1:23:47

or moved into the

1:23:48

pyramids, or, like, Well, two main

1:23:50

points, the sphinx, which is obviously one

1:23:52

of the most amazing structures the ancient world.

1:23:54

The Egyptians don't talk about it. Like, it they

1:23:56

it's just there. They don't know when it was built

1:23:58

or why. And it's just odd that you

1:24:01

imagine talking about New York and never

1:24:03

mentioning the statue of liberty in your

1:24:04

literature. Like, it doesn't make sense. So that I know

1:24:06

they don't have any kind good explanation for Why?

1:24:08

No. I'm glad you're not buried for a long time. This

1:24:11

this fink was not buried for a long time.

1:24:13

It's buried up to its neck. This

1:24:15

this fink also has an African face.

1:24:17

And it's smaller than the shape

1:24:20

of the rest of the body. It's like not

1:24:22

in proportion and it's much

1:24:24

newer. Like, it doesn't have the erosion. So they

1:24:26

think that during the time when

1:24:28

the pharaohs ran Egypt

1:24:30

that they might have redone

1:24:33

that in the shape of. I forget which pharaoh

1:24:35

they're they're attributed to, but there's some controversy

1:24:37

about that. But here's why why it's interesting

1:24:39

that you brought up this fangs. Because the temple

1:24:41

of this fangs is the best evidence

1:24:44

that it's older than people think it

1:24:45

is. Because the Temple of this Finks is a guy named doctor

1:24:48

Robert Chalk. What

1:24:48

do you mean the Temple that's around

1:24:50

this Finks? Like -- Okay. -- the the the area

1:24:53

where this finks is carved out of. So the stones

1:24:55

that they cut out of this area

1:24:57

to make this like this ground, this

1:24:59

this, like, flat wall that

1:25:02

has a bunch of different kinds

1:25:04

of stone in it. And some of it

1:25:06

is more more dense

1:25:08

and harder and the other stuff is more porous

1:25:10

and it gets eroded quicker. So

1:25:13

there's all this evidence of thousands

1:25:15

of years of rainfall on

1:25:17

these walls. And there's a guy named doctor

1:25:19

Robert Schoch, who's a geologist from Boston

1:25:22

University. And he measured it and

1:25:24

he went there and and like, looked at it

1:25:26

and examined it for just from the terms

1:25:28

of, like, as a geologist, not a his

1:25:30

as a historian because it fucks with the

1:25:32

timeline. Because the last time there was

1:25:34

rain in the Nile Valley was like nine thousand

1:25:37

years ago. So it had to be thousands

1:25:39

of years older than that. Because it

1:25:41

has erosion from thousands of years

1:25:43

of rainfall. Because the Nile valley used

1:25:46

to be that's what it was when

1:25:48

they first found it. Right? When they had to that was

1:25:50

like in the olden days. But looking out

1:25:52

small the faces and compared to the rest

1:25:54

of the body, they think it might have

1:25:56

actually been a lion originally and one of

1:25:58

the pharaohs That's

1:26:01

why the face is noticeably less eroded

1:26:03

than the rest of it. But you see the walls in the

1:26:05

out side. Yeah.

1:26:06

See, that's the temple. I

1:26:07

see that those lines, those fissures,

1:26:10

according to doctor Robert Shock,

1:26:12

he says those lines are

1:26:14

a clear sign of water erosion.

1:26:17

He's like, you don't get that kind of erosion

1:26:19

from sand and wind. He

1:26:21

goes the way it there's there's like videos

1:26:24

that describe it in cartoon form

1:26:26

or in illustration form images.

1:26:28

But those type of fissures are

1:26:30

only created with erosion,

1:26:33

from water, for thousands of years of rainfall.

1:26:35

The problem with that is they think that that's

1:26:37

two thousand five hundred BC. So

1:26:39

what he's saying is, no, it's thousands

1:26:42

and thousands of years older than that.

1:26:44

And we don't know who did it.

1:26:45

We don't know what happened. Like, you're