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Yeah. Uh, Clark,

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do you want to go over the guest list this week so

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we can do what we do here? Sure do, Matty. We start

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Carr. Sure do, man. The

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authors back in the suite. 2066, the enhanced

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we find out what that's all about. And we finish off

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the week with 2167, Nolan Arbaugh. Carson

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get this thing going. We'll be right back.

2:00

I feel like these were all like

2:02

in that under two hour sort of

2:04

thing we were talking about last week,

2:06

remember? The

2:09

new normal. And I forget which episode it is, but

2:11

I have it written down. Joe

2:13

mentions the idea of banking episodes. I believe it's

2:15

Jack Carr. Yes, he does mention it, yeah. And

2:17

I wonder if that is also what

2:19

this may be. He's

2:22

just doing short ones, like trying to bank a bunch

2:24

of them. It could be, yeah. I mean, sometimes I

2:26

think they are the day of, or

2:28

very recently, and sometimes they're a week off

2:30

or something. Well, he did a fight companion,

2:32

didn't he? Isn't that what I saw when

2:34

I was looking this morning? There's

2:37

no way. I think that's what I

2:39

thought, Matt, because what

2:41

was the fight? There

2:43

was. Saudi Arabia. There was a fight night, yeah.

2:46

I didn't even know. Yeah, fight

2:48

companion June 22nd. So no,

2:50

he was around, because

2:52

they do those in Boston. It's

2:54

all right to be wrong. Well,

2:57

what do you rate this week? I mean,

2:59

how low are we allowed to go on a scale of 1

3:01

to 5? 25,

3:04

Jamie's. What we do say. I'm pretty sure I've

3:06

given a negative number before. I'm certain you have

3:08

as well. Yeah, I'm going to have to follow

3:10

that lead this week. Yeah,

3:15

I'm going to, you know what? I'll

3:17

give it a two. Two

3:20

sounds about right. I've been listening to Joe Rogan

3:22

for at least 10 years. Two, two. Can you?

3:25

Sorry, I don't usually do this, but just

3:27

for my own edification. Give

3:29

me the breakdown on that. I

3:31

like the enhanced games one. Really?

3:34

Yeah, Jack Carr is tolerable,

3:36

and there's at least enough

3:39

fodder in a short episode

3:41

with the neuro link.

3:43

It is super interesting. Yeah, I'll give it a three. Keep

3:47

in mind someone, I give the week a two.

3:49

That's not a shining review. You're mad that I...

3:53

You just reminded me of something. Thank you, Matt. No,

3:55

yeah, it's not a great score.

3:57

Save it for the post, Joe. But considering

3:59

what I'm about... to throw out there. Yeah.

4:01

A zero. It's going to seem like a

4:04

five. I'm going

4:06

to go with a negative 1.6 Matt.

4:09

Wow. Okay. I think this week's

4:11

stank. I think that he

4:13

couldn't even do us like this

4:16

is what I meant last week when I

4:18

feel like Joe feels like he's doing the

4:21

listeners a favor at this point. Okay. Most

4:23

podcasts are out there like want

4:26

to get the best guess possible to

4:28

make this week the best so we

4:30

can get the most amount of views

4:32

and the this and the that and

4:34

that strives and pushes them forward towards

4:36

some modem of perfection. Joe

4:38

on the other hand has too

4:40

many viewers and like he

4:42

says all the time, I don't look at

4:44

the numbers. I just do what I

4:46

do. And unfortunately some

4:49

weeks that falls well short of

4:51

the mark. Okay.

4:54

Well, three very different reviews. Come on. Let's start

4:56

it off. Give us a name and a number

4:58

please. 2166 enhance games. Come

5:01

on. Put your fucking chair down. Hey,

5:04

if you didn't notice, if you know, I know how

5:06

it's too late dog. Christian

5:09

anger, Meyer and Dr. Aaron de Sousa.

5:14

He just pretended to just like he like

5:18

just lowered his fucking ass. That'll

5:21

do. That'll do pig. Um, so

5:23

one of these guys was like

5:25

comically German. It's two gay

5:27

guys that really like doing drugs and they

5:29

want to do it while they do sports.

5:31

So they started in the hands games is

5:34

my first impression. Um,

5:36

everybody is cheating already. And

5:39

the IOC, like who

5:41

are they? The way they

5:43

describe it, they roll into town or ruin it.

5:46

And then the eye, the next one,

5:48

we noticed corruption, their pattern, their pockets,

5:50

the judges as a kid,

5:53

you think that the Olympics are this wicked

5:55

thing, but the judges,

5:59

I mean, why are you still think that the

6:01

Olympics is a wicked thing? No, I think I'm

6:03

nostalgic and just enjoy the the the the competitive

6:05

nature of it. But listen, these guys like it's

6:08

just never been questioned. But

6:10

year after year, there was some sort of

6:12

corruption, the IOC. This sounds kind of cool,

6:15

though. You run the juice

6:17

games on one side, you run

6:19

the normal games on the

6:21

other. And then the winners will

6:24

get together and compete for like, world

6:27

domination title or whatever the fuck you want to call

6:29

it. I like it. If you can pull the two

6:31

things together, I think that's kind of cool. Because

6:34

if. If

6:37

enough countries now have held

6:39

it, they don't have

6:41

to go anywhere else. That's sustainable in some sort

6:43

of a. I'm sorry,

6:45

wouldn't it be hilarious if countries like

6:47

Russia were like, well, we're not even

6:50

going to bother competing in the normal

6:52

Olympics anymore. Yeah, we're already well tuned

6:54

for this fucking juice Olympic. Yeah, you

6:56

might be right. And it's not by

6:58

country, which is sort of silly. Or

7:00

do we like that? It's not by

7:03

country. The enhanced games. Oh, it's just everyone

7:05

competes against it. I mean, it is by

7:07

country. You will

7:09

be from that country. That's what I'm saying. Like

7:11

people will still be like Canada one. No, but

7:13

I think more to the point is like, let's

7:16

say Jamaica has 30 sprinters

7:18

that could make any team, but

7:21

they only get to take 10 guys. That's

7:23

the rules of the Olympics. But if they're

7:25

competing in this, they cannot compete in the

7:27

Olympics, obviously. So it's like a live tour.

7:30

PGA tops. That's how I look at it.

7:32

Yeah. Well, we saw how that turned out.

7:34

Great. Yeah. So like I said, they

7:37

could be competing against each other in

7:39

no time. But their

7:41

biggest thing is the

7:46

fact that steroids have

7:48

a negative connotation. They're

7:51

not looked at like medicine that is good for

7:53

you. And some medicines are good for you,

7:55

but bad for you. But steroids are not bad

7:58

for you. Well, it's like the guy said, though, the idea The

8:00

idea, like originally it was that they

8:03

were a schedule, whatever drug. So for you to

8:05

get steroids, for the most part, you had to

8:07

like do them yourself and

8:09

it was unsafe, right? Like, wasn't that the,

8:13

I think it's all lies. Okay. Fair

8:16

enough. I think anything can be abused. Yeah.

8:18

Well, of course. And I think, um, I

8:22

think the biggest thing is maybe that back knee I was

8:24

talking about, you get a zits all over your back by

8:26

doing steroids. But the idea

8:28

that steroids and cheating are always in the

8:31

same sort of, uh, sentence

8:33

makes it sound bad. But if you,

8:36

he was saying you'd go to the doctor and it's not like the

8:39

doctor says, is everything all right? And you go,

8:41

yeah, I think so. He's a great out of here.

8:43

It's never like, oh, well, we could do this and

8:45

help you that way. The, the, the healthcare system

8:47

isn't exactly like that. And so

8:49

if you can have something to enhance yourself, cause

8:53

people say, well, I don't do sports or whatever, but

8:55

no, you just feel better. And

8:58

I talked to a guy at work who's doing it and he says

9:00

it's about $150 a month. So

9:05

you've got to do it. You know what I mean? But

9:08

these guys are saying alcohol

9:10

is way more dangerous than steroids. And

9:13

that was interesting. Yeah. The most, I think it's

9:15

part of it is it's just bad for your

9:17

body. And part of it is it's so socially

9:20

acceptable. People do it so

9:23

much that they can get drunk, get in

9:25

car accidents, whatever. Like just it's steroids.

9:27

You're just going to maybe shoot your

9:30

wife. See, I think, Oh, holy shit.

9:32

No, no, no. May I, may I jump in

9:34

for a sec? Yeah. I

9:37

think a lot of the, maybe shoot

9:40

your wife. I think a lot of

9:42

the steroid propaganda was tied up with

9:44

like these guys who were the bodybuilders

9:47

and it's already such a sport of

9:49

excess. Like they're trying to get

9:51

as big as possible. So then you like, of

9:54

course, there's going to be a lot of

9:56

side effects to the amount of steroids they're

9:58

taking. If you're like, football

10:00

player who's taking steroids for recovery

10:03

or even to make

10:05

yourself better, but on a much lower dose, you

10:07

probably don't run into those same issues. I'm

10:09

sorry, Kamar, you can go back. Well, the problem we

10:11

have though is like in baseball, for example, we know

10:14

that guys were like

10:16

bang average hitters and then started

10:19

juicing and started clocking dingers.

10:21

Yeah, it was making them bigger. Yeah. So

10:23

what I'm saying though is like, that's, you

10:25

know, once we open that floodgate, and again,

10:27

they're just saying we're opening that floodgate. But

10:29

like for professional sports, for example, like once

10:32

you open that floodgate, everyone

10:34

has to do it. Right?

10:37

Like you're just at a disadvantage if you're not doing

10:40

it. I

10:42

mean, you're, you're, you're, you're more

10:44

commendable if you succeed

10:46

without doing it. But again, just

10:48

in life, who cares? You're

10:51

doing, you're only going to live for an amount of time. If

10:53

there's something you could take that makes you feel better. No, I

10:55

agree. Listen, I agree with that, of course. The

10:58

other one was Roy rage. Roy

11:00

rage is this thing to tell about. And that's what I was

11:02

referring to. But I think it might be actually more CTE. I

11:06

think it comes in those really big

11:08

doses and that Roy rage was tied

11:12

into that whole. But

11:15

I'm saying the people who have Roy

11:17

rage are football players, wrestlers. So they

11:19

are going to have a level six.

11:21

They're already fixed. The two together. It's

11:23

more volatile. Yeah, probably. Um,

11:27

yeah. Well, no, that makes sense because

11:29

a guy like, um, the

11:31

Wolverine, um, he

11:34

was a WWE wrestler. What's his

11:36

fucking Benoit? Chris

11:39

Benoit and they blamed it on

11:41

steroids. Oh, is that later on?

11:43

It turns out that it's totally

11:45

CTE classic. Well,

11:48

I think you're probably right there. I think

11:50

they were just making this missing diagnosis because

11:52

they, we just didn't know any better at

11:54

the time. And I'm not sure the power

11:56

that be that doesn't want people

11:59

to think it's steroids. as

12:03

something, an option if you, if you want

12:05

to enhance your life, but they got on

12:07

a special debate, not special, I'm special. Special

12:10

teams, special players, special players. About

12:13

mushrooms and the, the

12:16

substance abuse guy was, no, the

12:18

endurance game guys

12:20

was enhanced game guys was very

12:22

adamant not to mix any drugs,

12:27

weed and mushrooms or like, I mean, classics he

12:29

would do. You

12:32

guys could imagine mushrooms

12:34

without smoking weed. No.

12:36

And Joe had a big pushback. I

12:39

think his big thing was alcohol. Alcohol

12:42

with anything else. Yes. I thought

12:44

he was about mixing anything. He wants you

12:46

just to do one thing. No, I agree

12:48

with what you're saying, Matt, because most drugs

12:51

like weed, I found like amplified

12:53

the mushrooms. Just enhanced it. Or

12:56

alcohol is like a wet blanket on

12:58

every other high. Yeah. It

13:01

just, it also,

13:03

the alcohol will make you abuse whatever

13:05

drug you're like, like if

13:07

you're drunk and you, and you're taking mushrooms, yeah,

13:09

you're just going to eat a handful of mushrooms

13:11

like a fucking idiot. And that's probably going to

13:13

ruin your night. Whereas if you're, if you're just

13:16

like sitting at home sober and you

13:18

eat a little bit of mushrooms and smoke a joint, like

13:20

you're probably just going to end it there. You might smoke

13:22

another joint maybe, but right.

13:24

It booze is always the fucking let's get

13:26

an eight ball and really have a night. Alcohol

13:29

is always the one that sends everyone fucking. But

13:33

yeah, alcohol

13:35

is definitely a problem. Alcohol is the worst

13:37

drug. There's no doubt about it. And isn't

13:39

it funny that the one drug that is

13:41

ingrained into our way of life. I

13:44

mean, in our defense, like it's been around

13:47

for thousands of years. And you know, it's

13:49

been around way longer than that. No, no,

13:51

but what I mean, yeah, I get it.

13:53

What can it be? Yeah, yeah. What

13:55

I'm saying though is like they used to drink it

13:58

because like water wasn't safe. Yeah, but it was. I'm

16:00

trying to think if it's like you need

16:02

the corporate sponsors. You do. You need to

16:04

get these athletes able to. You can't pay

16:06

guys a million dollars to break a world

16:08

record without some corporate sponsors. Now the good

16:11

news is for them, they were like, we

16:13

have Peter Thiel and Naval. I

16:15

can't say his last name. One of the guys, the super

16:18

rich billionaire, they're behind

16:20

this right now. So they have a lot of

16:22

like big money behind

16:24

them. And they feel they have enough money to

16:26

fund it for three years. Yeah. Which is, it

16:28

makes sense because you could not just do it

16:30

once and sort of hope. It's

16:34

so popular that everyone gets in on it. You have

16:36

to try it a couple of times. But they're really

16:38

smart. Sorry Simon. They're really smart because their infrastructure idea

16:40

is brilliant too. We don't have to do it all

16:43

in one city. There doesn't have to be a host

16:45

country where it's like all the jumping is here. It's

16:47

like anywhere where they already have the infrastructure, where it's

16:49

the best, we do it there. We can televise it,

16:51

do it over the internet because that's the fucking world

16:54

we live in. Because the Olympics is a traveling road

16:56

show. Yes. Not

16:58

to mention, it breaks countries. Greece

17:01

is still broke from the fucking Olympics.

17:03

It breaks countries. I mean, some people

17:05

will say it's a windfall for restaurants

17:07

and hotels in the area, but I'm

17:09

sure this will be similar.

17:13

When you said Peter, like I listened

17:16

to this episode obviously, but I didn't really pick up

17:18

on the fact that Peter

17:20

Thiel was the guy. Elon.

17:25

That is a little concerning to me because

17:27

when you think about it, they're trying to

17:29

usher in this like... Crisper and all sorts

17:31

of fucking shit like that. It's just a

17:34

different... This is the next step to get

17:36

you to be all right with putting in

17:38

a cybernetic hip. And then, oh, you know,

17:40

we'll just put in like this chip in

17:43

your brain that will allow your joints to

17:45

move for your... It

17:47

all starts getting real murky. And the

17:50

fact that this Peter Thiel guy is

17:52

willing to put up so much money

17:54

to these fucking... Like Kumar said, it

17:56

sounded like a pitch for Fire Island,

17:58

frankly. Like

18:02

there's something that was a mess here. I'm

18:04

with you. Why? Look, I'm

18:06

not saying I don't like the idea. Just

18:09

when we have a three year, um, cushion,

18:12

you know how much fucking money that is

18:15

like for them to put it on.

18:18

Yeah. His thing is like, if you found

18:20

out that like, uh, Elon was sponsoring this

18:22

thing and this no, I don't know, I

18:24

get what Simon's saying totally. It's like, about

18:26

the tie together with. Yeah.

18:29

It's it's the idea

18:31

that like, um, these

18:35

guys are probably pushing it for

18:37

some nefarious purpose down the road and just under

18:39

the guise of like, well, wouldn't it just be

18:41

great if we had a better like games or

18:43

the, they're gay. They, they're going to not that

18:45

these guys, the Peter Thiel and, oh, they're going

18:47

to do a steroid

18:50

special Olympics. You figure. I'm

18:53

going to leave that one. We'll see. We'll

18:55

see how this works out. But yet possibly Simon,

18:57

that could be on slate for,

19:00

um, like, I'm sure they're thinking ahead

19:02

already, you know, yeah. Joe's

19:05

big pushback was the trans

19:08

athletes. And I just, as he

19:10

was arguing it, I'm like, this

19:12

is like a no rules thing. There's

19:14

no rules and are no rules thing

19:16

is, is this the, um, Kumaite or

19:18

isn't it the Kumaite? What's weird too,

19:20

was they were like, they didn't say

19:23

yes, we will or no, we won't.

19:25

They were like, if someone

19:27

is serious about it and thinks they can break a

19:29

record, we'd like to have a conversation with them.

19:31

Cause like, they're just looking for literally, I

19:33

don't even think they want the guys that

19:35

placed 10th and down. They're looking for the

19:37

top 10 people in whatever space

19:40

and they don't care about the rest. So yeah,

19:42

I think like, I dunno, it

19:46

just seemed like they had no fucking. Whatever.

19:49

Back to technology though. I,

19:51

I started to see more and more

19:54

that is just inevitable. Like Joe made the,

19:57

um, analogy of

19:59

who. you're not going to use a none of this episode, but

20:02

you're not going to use a feather

20:05

to write a book. You're

20:07

going to use a computer or a printing press, whatever

20:09

all these it's just inevitable technologies.

20:11

Because when we were kids, when you you

20:14

might not remember, but it was I think it was

20:16

called the Bionic Man, the

20:19

six million dollar man, Steve Austin or whatever. Yeah,

20:21

that was a little before our time. But yeah,

20:23

that was the coolest thing. The

20:27

Steve Miller, whatever the whatever it was,

20:29

you didn't look at that like, oh,

20:32

the machines are taking over. Like, that'd be

20:34

amazing. You can jump 20 feet high because

20:36

he's an astronaut. I think gets in the

20:38

car accident and he's a six million dollar

20:40

man rebuild him. And now isn't Justin

20:42

Jefferson getting $43 million a year? I

20:46

think Bill Byrd did that, but it's

20:50

all just inevitable. Hip

20:54

replacements, super stuff like it's

20:56

not a bad thing. He fought a Bigfoot

20:58

in one episode. Come on.

21:00

Hip replaces. I don't think hip

21:02

replacements is what anyone cares about. If you can get

21:04

your hip replaced and still compete at a high level,

21:07

kudos. Is that what you said? You're saying

21:10

actually mechanics inside. What are you talking about?

21:12

Yes, I'm insane. Like you're Oscar Pistorius and

21:14

you lose your legs, for example, and then

21:16

they give you better legs.

21:19

Yeah. And then you're not those blade things.

21:21

Yeah. And then you're shaving two

21:23

seconds off the hundred meter dash. I think

21:25

that's more what Simon's like. You won't steroids

21:27

will be a thing of the past because

21:30

every time you need to get better at

21:32

something, you're just going to input a new

21:34

piece until you're, you know, 70, 30 Android,

21:36

Camar. And

21:38

then it'll be 60, 40 and 50, 50. And

21:41

if it's anything like the, um,

21:44

the race to the top in athletics today, you know, we'll

21:46

be 90, 10 the other way before, you know, so

21:50

would you be happy if it just didn't happen

21:53

or would you at least have the, uh, option

21:56

to choose it if you wanted to. Listen,

21:58

I think this is a good idea. Olympics suck.

22:00

So I'm all for these guys. I don't agree

22:02

with that. I think the Olympics are great. There

22:05

are some. Probably on the IOC then. The

22:07

IOC sucks. And

22:09

there are some problems with the Olympics, but

22:12

it's still fun

22:14

to watch. I'm going to watch it. Yeah.

22:17

You're going to watch. I don't know. I

22:20

mean, just as far as body sciences

22:22

go, this is going to be an

22:24

advancement that could help everyone, you know,

22:26

with breakthroughs like they were talking about.

22:29

Also, I find it sort of cut you off. There

22:31

was one point where he was like skateboarders. There aren't

22:33

a lot of professional skateboarders in the world. I was

22:35

like, I think there's actually probably more professional skateboarders. Then

22:39

I think he was saying sports

22:41

that are professional outside of. I

22:44

get it. The big five. Yeah. I

22:46

understand. But skateboarding is one of the bigger

22:48

ones. Like there's no professional javelin tour. Yeah,

22:51

I get it. But what I'm saying is

22:53

like skateboarding has one of the bigger populations

22:55

compared to a lot of the Olympics. I

22:57

would say, well, yeah. Am

23:01

I wrong? So I'm break dancing. I think

23:03

in the big scheme of things, it's probably

23:05

a smaller number than you think. But okay.

23:08

But just to put it in perspective, even skateboard, just

23:10

to put it in perspective for you, baseball is 147

23:13

years old professional baseball. Yeah. And

23:15

the amount of players that have played

23:17

it professionally, if you took the smallest

23:19

ballpark in the, in major

23:22

league baseball, you would 60% fill

23:24

it with all the people that have ever

23:26

played baseball ever professionally. Interesting.

23:29

That's a very interesting statistic. More

23:32

people swim than skateboard. But

23:34

professionally, you have a professionally swim. There's

23:36

no professional swim tour. Let me throw

23:38

another fact at you. Please. I love

23:40

facts. We live. He

23:43

doesn't even have a fact. No, no, I do. But it was

23:46

something you'd heard a million times. Killer Jones. Cleopatra,

23:48

pyramids. Oh, you can take that. Yeah. Osempics

23:52

market cap is bigger than the

23:54

open AI. That's

23:56

crazy. It's so crazy how lazy

23:59

we are. people

24:01

that you could work out and diet.

24:03

No, give me the jab

24:05

and you see it on TV. Older

24:08

people who are skinny with jowls. Dude,

24:10

it doesn't only make your body,

24:14

your torso skinny. It

24:16

like does something to your face. It's crazy.

24:18

Like have you seen a perfect

24:21

example, the whole

24:23

Osborn family? Yes,

24:25

yes, yes, yes. The two girls, the

24:28

mom and the girl, they look insane.

24:30

Not good. Like insane.

24:32

Not good. Not good. Insane can be

24:34

both. No, insane. Like they look deranged.

24:36

Yeah, Huktu is insane. So

24:40

that is completely acceptable to take this

24:42

drug for something else, but steroids, hey.

24:45

Hey, be careful with that. It's

24:48

just been something that's been ingrained. Just like

24:50

we think, I'm trying to

24:52

trace back to why I always thought our

24:54

healthcare system was the best. Because

24:56

it's free. But who

24:58

told me, like, did I just decide that?

25:01

No, they always told us that. They told

25:03

us great. Our healthcare system was. Completely told

25:05

that. Trust me, it wasn't my parents bragging

25:07

about how great the healthcare system was. I

25:09

mean, it's great because it's free, but as

25:11

I get older and I look at it

25:13

and I've experienced it, I don't think it's

25:16

that great. And I'm telling you, like my

25:18

mom, we, we

25:23

know firsthand that the, even

25:25

back in the eighties, the medical

25:28

system was garbage, like making

25:30

horrible mistakes and tainted blood

25:32

and this and that, like.

25:35

Yeah, but that was everywhere, not just here. Everywhere

25:39

across Canada. No, no, it wasn't.

25:41

Okay, sure. And

25:43

all I'm pointing out

25:46

is our generation had

25:49

a shitty medical system and you can't look back and

25:52

say, oh, well, our parents had it so great they

25:54

didn't. No. And

25:56

then they're like, Kumar is saying, is this

25:58

great fucking medical system. The idea

26:00

that it's compassionate to take care of

26:02

everyone sounds great. Well, that is great.

26:04

But the execution of that. Is terrible.

26:06

Yeah. Well, the problem is that we're,

26:09

like in Europe, it works a lot

26:11

better because they're super stringent on

26:14

healthcare stuff. Like the food

26:16

regulation in Europe is 10X

26:18

what it is here. Because

26:21

we're so close to the States, we

26:23

eat all the food that the US

26:25

eats, which is like high fructose corn

26:27

syrup. It's healthier food over there. Yeah.

26:29

And because it's healthier, you have less

26:31

health issues. So you have less, the

26:33

healthcare system isn't as, there's

26:36

not a strain on it like there is here. The

26:39

other thing too is, and I can't believe I'm

26:41

going to quote her, but like I saw this interview with Cardi

26:43

B the other day, and she

26:45

was like, why does

26:47

it cost money to go to school, to be a doctor?

26:49

Should be free. And she was

26:52

like, and if you need doctors, why not make

26:54

it free? Incentivize people to go do it. She's

26:56

like, healthier society means more people working, means

26:59

society's better. And I was literally, I was like, I

27:02

was like, what the fuck is going on right now? I was

27:04

like, am I listening to Cardi B? And if

27:06

you become a doctor for free, you're less

27:08

needing to recoup your

27:11

loans. Exactly. And listen, you're still going

27:13

to get the best people because it's

27:15

going to be a stringent program. Most

27:18

people will drop out because it's too hard. When

27:20

you find out that Harvard could send every student

27:22

there for free for the rest of time because

27:24

of the interest they have on their endowments, you're

27:26

like, what the fuck are we doing? Like when

27:29

you hear that there's a shortage in doctors, that

27:31

just shouldn't ever be the case. We live in

27:33

a country, especially ours, we live in a country

27:35

where we could easily say, guess what? The

27:38

top five schools now have to give out

27:41

a hundred scholarships a year to

27:43

anyone that wants to be a doctor. Who's like, dude,

27:46

problem solved right there. You're spitting out a hundred

27:48

new doctors a year, all because we've decided that

27:50

these rich ass schools that are making tons of

27:52

money have to do this. Hey, you have to

27:54

give out these free tuitions to high

27:56

level students. Done, boom, bang. No,

27:59

that's really. Interesting cardi B. That's actually the most

28:01

profound thing of her I Cannot

28:05

argue apart from the girl who's like, so let

28:07

me get this straight and paying tax on

28:09

the money. I'm bringing it in What

28:12

will be interesting is

28:14

if the IOC is the cartel

28:16

I Proport it to

28:18

be I

28:22

don't think it's you purporting it to me If these

28:28

2025 first run is just a

28:30

smash success Will

28:33

we see the IOC

28:35

running interference mud slinging stuff's gonna

28:37

come about these guys? Skeleton's

28:41

the clock did you know what I mean? that

28:44

is because it doesn't feel like the

28:47

Olympics I guess they don't

28:49

approve of it because they don't approve of drugs but

28:52

Fair play to anyone who wants to do something. I'm

28:54

just saying if it's a success We

28:56

can imagine the IOC trying to stop it.

28:59

No the IOC if it's a success They

29:01

will just immediately pivot. There's too much money.

29:03

Go PJ Yeah,

29:05

cuz like like you're saying the coke and the

29:08

McDonald's money is too fucking big for them to

29:10

be like they'll just What they'll

29:12

do is they'll do what like a lot of

29:14

things do they'll just start they'll be like, okay

29:16

so the the village is a little bit nicer

29:18

and each athlete gets a $1,000

29:21

and if you get first you get ten

29:23

thousand, you know what I mean? Like I

29:25

never thought about that how shitty the conditions

29:27

are in the ass the village the cardboard

29:29

beds It's always the thing everyone was like

29:31

how the like, how are they supposed to

29:33

do so? Well, dude in Russia, it was

29:35

nuts. They were showing the village there was

29:37

fucking brutal like they there wasn't even you

29:39

could even call it clear water coming out

29:41

of the taps and You

29:43

compete you practice all year all year train train

29:45

train train train The night before

29:47

you have the worst sleep of your life Well,

29:50

what's crazy to Simon is like in the Olympic Village

29:52

the food that's free is McDonald's They have a bunch

29:54

of McDonald's there. So they're just giving the athletes McDonald's

29:58

well, that doesn't even make sense Right.

30:01

That's because probably most of those

30:03

athletes like compete once and

30:05

then are just partying for the rest of the

30:07

time. That's how it happens. That can't be for

30:09

athletes who are actually trying to do well. Like

30:11

you said, a huge percent of the athletes

30:14

don't even make the top 10. But wait a

30:16

second. Hold on. That's

30:18

fucking Ben, man. It's got like a life of its

30:21

own. Um, you

30:23

think it's bad that McDonald. Yo.

30:29

Do you know those videos where like

30:31

someone's, you know, those videos where someone's

30:33

vape catches fire in their pocket and

30:36

burns a whole store down. Yo, that

30:38

thing's fucking crazy. Um, do

30:40

you think it's bad that McDonald's

30:43

and whoever are with

30:45

the Olympics? Like

30:48

why is that bad? But I mean,

30:50

well, it's very simple. Like there, you

30:52

could never in any world make an

30:54

argument that one of these athletes could

30:56

live off McDonald's and perform athletically at

30:58

a high. No, no, no. Agreed. Fine.

31:00

But like McDonald's

31:03

has ads in the Superbowl. Like this just

31:05

seems like a no brainer to me. We're,

31:07

we're a capitalistic society. Hold on. These guys,

31:10

we're going to be pure. Yeah. No, no,

31:12

wait. These guys don't steroids, but McDonald's is

31:14

good. Simon. These guys don't know sports. Come

31:16

on, Simon. These guys don't have a problem.

31:18

They would take the McDonald's money in a

31:21

heartbeat for their enhanced game. Just

31:23

pointing out the irony. Yeah.

31:25

They were just saying like, how can you

31:27

say, how can you say, Hey, you're injured.

31:29

You can't take something to help yourself recover

31:31

faster. Also, we're not paying you.

31:34

Have a big Mac and a Coke. But yeah, enjoy

31:36

this sugary beverage and

31:38

this, uh, fake food. So

31:41

you would like just playing

31:43

the apple avocado. Yeah.

31:46

You would like that. Every sponsor

31:48

for the Olympics goes through like

31:51

a rigorous process. So no, it's

31:53

just the association. Simon,

31:56

I don't care. What we're saying is that

31:58

it's fucking hypocritical to say. You can't do

32:00

steroids, but we're brought to you by McDonald's.

32:02

But they say that in every single sport.

32:05

So every time a liquor

32:08

or what, you know what I mean? So

32:13

if Lebat sponsors the Super Bowl,

32:17

they also say no steroids allowed.

32:20

Simon, I have no problem with

32:22

anyone fucking advertising on any sports

32:24

thing. Okay. So you have

32:27

no problem with McDonald's and the Olympics? No, I

32:29

don't. Okay. So we're just talking

32:31

about the podcast. We always, I am only

32:33

asking because at first I was like, yeah,

32:35

that seems crazy. And then I was like,

32:37

well, no, that's how sponsors work. Right. Tons

32:40

of sponsors don't do

32:43

the shit or, or you

32:45

know what I mean? Like the, how

32:47

about this? The Super Bowl, you'll have

32:50

a fucking a women's brand that advertises

32:52

Simon. How about this? Like

32:54

when you see on the field at the Super

32:56

Bowl, um, them

32:59

drinking Gatorade, a lot of the

33:01

times it's water. Cause

33:03

they don't even drink Gatorade. So there you go. But

33:06

my point being like, when, if you want

33:08

to have McDonald's sponsor and slap their logo

33:11

all over the Olympics, we're fine with that. No one has

33:13

a problem with that. This is capitalism. You

33:15

have to make money. Somehow we get that. What we're

33:17

saying though, is like, these are high level athletes and

33:19

the Olympic village should have not just

33:21

McDonald's as the option for the

33:24

athletes. Right? Like, does that

33:26

make a little more sense? Like have the McDonald's logo everywhere,

33:28

but have them eating like offer them healthy food. You're

33:31

making $22 billion off this Olympics. Yeah.

33:33

That has more to do with, um, the

33:36

IOC, I guess that of course, cause it's

33:38

corrupt. No, but my point is just simply

33:40

remains that you're making so much

33:42

money off this. You could feed them good food

33:44

while still having the McDonald's logo and the Coke

33:46

logo everywhere. And have them drinking out of

33:49

Coke glasses all the time. I mean,

33:51

that may be the case, Matt, that

33:53

there's also those options. We don't know

33:55

what the fuck. You know what I

33:57

mean? And like I

33:59

said, The ones who are actually competing, who

34:03

are in contention for a medal, they're going

34:05

to, there's no way they're eating McDonald's. They

34:07

have to be eating good food. So that

34:09

food is coming from somewhere. Where's

34:14

that Simon? I assume

34:16

in the fucking village, maybe it's coming

34:18

from their own coach. I don't know.

34:20

Just establish the Olympic

34:23

village is like refugee

34:25

condition. Because that guy told you that.

34:28

No, you hear this every year. But

34:34

again, you're taking a lot of like on

34:36

face value from a guy who's trying to

34:38

usher in. In the IOC and the Olympics.

34:40

What's going on here? Not at all. These

34:43

guys are two degrees from Elon Musk and

34:45

he doesn't like it. Do you

34:47

remember Brazil when those swimmers were out partying

34:49

all night and miss curfew

34:51

or whatever and then said they got robbed and the

34:54

police were like so adamant. They were American.

34:56

No, the American swimmers. Yeah. No, but

34:58

the Brazilian police were adamant to say,

35:00

no, this is not what happened. What

35:02

was that guy's name? He was like,

35:04

that was a meme for a while.

35:07

Aukie, Aukie or something. And he was

35:09

a doofus. When

35:12

the world,

35:14

because these guys are sure world

35:16

records will be broken. And

35:19

will the, then the IOC put up a

35:21

stink about that. Well,

35:24

the, uh, with aspects, world records or

35:26

whatever. Well, here's a question for you.

35:28

Okay. So if it's

35:30

the case that the athletes that

35:32

are competing in the Olympics remain

35:35

in the Olympics, okay, let's just pretend

35:37

that's the case. The

35:39

group of people they have vying for those

35:42

things will remain the same. There will still

35:44

be people who want to compete in the

35:46

Olympics. That means that the

35:51

other people in this steroids games

35:53

are going to be of lesser

35:55

caliber than the Olympic athletes, but

35:58

because they're taking the steroids. they're

36:01

going to be having advantage, but the

36:03

natural talent obviously isn't there, or they probably would

36:05

have been competing for the Olympics in the first

36:07

place. Well, we know people are cheating in the

36:09

Olympics though. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah,

36:11

but you could be wrong because let's say the

36:13

number one, let's say Usain Bolt, okay? Let's

36:15

say he injures his foot and

36:18

he decides like, I'm either going to have

36:20

to recoup this. The recovery on this

36:22

thing is either going to be five years and I'm going to retire.

36:25

Like I'm not going to be able to compete or

36:27

I can just fucking juice myself up to fix

36:29

this thing and then I can just go compete

36:31

over here. So you're going to get some of

36:34

the hurt players? Sure, fine. You know what I

36:36

mean? Some of these guys at the end of

36:38

their careers who are like suffering injuries now. That's

36:41

money. But for the most part. Simon, money talks. You

36:44

just think everybody will end up going for the prize

36:46

pool. What I'm saying is this, if you're the best

36:49

at, I don't know, cycling, right? The velodrome, something that

36:51

is not a sport that's ever going to make you

36:53

a lot of money. And all of a sudden these

36:55

guys say, if you can break the world record over

36:57

here, we'll give you a million dollars. Even if you're

36:59

not juiced up, you might like, that's

37:01

the big thing you're missing. That's what I was going to

37:03

say. What's his name should just go and do that, but

37:05

he can't because then he can never come back and do

37:07

the Olympics. But well, I mean, again, he's a, like, he's-

37:10

Are you talking about you saying both? Yeah. Apparently

37:12

he just injured himself. I mean, he's also

37:14

a weird one because I bet he's got a lot of

37:16

fucking deals with like Adidas, Nike, whoever the fuck. I bet

37:18

he makes a ton of money. So he's probably fine. The

37:20

real problem is that like the highest

37:22

level athletes usually have good sponsorships.

37:25

It's usually the guys that are like, you

37:28

know- And that's the difference- 10th through

37:30

30th. Yeah. That's

37:32

the difference between the PGA and the live

37:34

thing is that guys on the PGA

37:36

could say, you know what? We're not going to

37:38

chase the live money because we're still making pretty

37:40

decent money on the PGA tour. These

37:42

other athletes are not making decent money.

37:45

Most athletes make no money. Yeah. But

37:47

I mean, again, it's also because like you've

37:50

chosen a sport, like, you know, no disrespect,

37:52

but like shot putter javelin- Those people aren't

37:54

competing in the steroid Olympics anyways, because those

37:56

events aren't in it. They only took the

37:58

top whatever five or- seven events,

38:00

whatever it was. So those, those guys are

38:02

out anyway. No, but that's what they took

38:04

for now. Like if it, if the thing

38:06

gets big enough, they might, they might start

38:08

including more sports, right? More eyes, more

38:11

viewership. Can you not eat what we fucking do? I

38:16

have Usain Bolt is retired. So

38:18

he's out of the conversation, but he did

38:20

rupture his Achilles heel, uh, last week in

38:23

a, uh, celebrity soccer tournament. Wow.

38:25

Just a sidebar. It

38:28

was funny. Cause after he broke the world record, he was

38:30

talking about going to play soccer professionally and I was like,

38:32

fuck man, if you had him on the wing, they tried

38:34

him out for a team actually. Yeah. Yeah.

38:38

I mean, football, you got to catch, like, I feel like

38:40

as a Jamaican, he's probably a little more blessed. That's like,

38:42

he probably grew up playing soccer. That

38:48

was smooth. Is it a disaster

38:50

if these guys run the enhanced games and no

38:52

one breaks a world record? Yeah.

38:55

I think that this guy has been talking a pretty big

38:57

game about all the records that are going to be shattered.

38:59

But I think you'd have to put them on the clock.

39:01

Like you would give them a few 20, 20, 25. No,

39:04

no, no. What I mean is like, I'm here for it. A

39:07

few cycles. Yeah. They didn't mention either. Are they

39:09

going to run it every year? Is it going

39:11

to be every four years? That's

39:13

a big thing too. Like, I

39:16

like the fact that like Simon said, it's

39:18

here or you said there. You

39:20

like, you don't have to ruin a city or infrastructure

39:23

thing. And also

39:25

it's just like premier sports.

39:28

It's all killer. No filler. Cause you

39:30

watch the Olympics. This is the only time we're going to watch

39:33

archery or curling

39:36

or pick your sport.

39:38

I mean, I'll contend that if it's for

39:40

like, when

39:43

you have that pride that, you

39:45

know, you want your country to win, they

39:47

could be playing fucking beanbag toss. It doesn't

39:49

matter. Like it's the competition. Gold medals are

39:52

gold medal. That's why any sport

39:54

is a good sport in the Olympics. And

39:56

it reminds you so much of entertainment industry,

39:58

like in the beginning where. You

40:00

perform for free and so you get

40:02

better and then you make the money. The

40:05

IOC asks all these countries to take

40:07

your taxpayers' dollars, pay for your athletes

40:09

to train, we'll give you a

40:11

venue, and then you get a gold medal. But

40:14

nothing else. That's kind of what the joke is, is

40:16

it's like, you're telling someone who's like in a sport

40:18

that they're never gonna make money, like, just

40:21

wait and the money will come. And it's like, but wait

40:23

a minute, I'm in the two man luge. Like,

40:25

where's the big money after the Olympics? Like, you

40:27

know what I mean? And that's the other thing

40:30

too, is like, there are, like the Olympics, I'm

40:32

sorry, they need to trim down a bit. Like

40:34

the two man luge is the perfect example of

40:36

like, let's just add another, like just

40:39

throw a guy on top. Like, I don't know. I

40:42

like you. It's the gayest thing ever. Oh, that's what

40:44

I keep forgetting. Thank

40:46

you, Matt. You're welcome. I

40:49

remember when they discontinued ski ballet. Perfect

40:52

example. Freestyle skiing was moguls,

40:56

the big, the big, which is

40:58

awesome. The ballet was ridiculous. My cousin,

41:00

my girl cousin used to do ski

41:02

ballet. Like, it was a thing. I

41:04

felt bad for, like, you wait for

41:06

your shot and then they go, no

41:08

more for you. So they have to

41:10

make a gay Olympics. Yeah,

41:13

so if no world records are broken, then

41:15

there'll be no people going, hey, what is

41:17

that guy on? Cause that's what they thought

41:19

would be. They did have to take out

41:21

the synchronized swimming. Cause you can't have synchronized

41:23

swimming and no ski ballet. You know what

41:25

I mean? No, it's a good, I assume

41:27

it is insane. The amount

41:29

of time that holds. It's fucking retarded. Their

41:31

breath underwater. You're crazy. And recently

41:33

they've started stuff where they shoot them out of

41:35

water. If it was so great, they wouldn't be

41:37

taking it out of the Olympics. They are taking

41:39

it out of the Olympics. Did you listen to

41:41

this episode? Stop. You

41:44

are so devastated. Well, cause

41:46

it's like his voyeuristics. We'll be right back.

41:48

We'll look at women upside down, which is

41:50

some weird fetish of his. That would be

41:52

gymnastics. He likes

41:54

when they look like little kids as well. Sorry.

42:00

Sometimes little boys. What's

42:02

it called? Synchronized swimming? Yeah. You

42:05

don't believe him? No. Okay.

42:07

They wouldn't do that to me. They didn't. First

42:10

they took away your ballet skiing. Now they took

42:12

away your synchronized swimming. They're not gonna have a

42:14

sport like synchronized swimming in the enhanced games. Next

42:16

thing you know, they're gonna take away your roller

42:18

blades and then where are you gonna be? That's

42:22

the best. They're like synchronized swimming. We don't

42:24

need people enhancing for that. There's just like,

42:28

they're just jumping out of the water like dolphins. They

42:30

made their hands like really big. So

42:33

they can just keep their fucking feet out of

42:35

the water. I think what a stupid sport that

42:37

is. Stop. It really is

42:39

so dumb. Like when you break down

42:41

out of all the dumb sports, synchronized

42:44

swimming is so moronic. Yeah. First

42:46

of all, it's super day. It's

42:49

a team sport. That's why they don't have a male version

42:51

of it. Men can't even do it. Yeah. But

42:53

how did it come to be? Men could do ballet

42:55

skiing though. Yeah, we were worried about

42:57

it. Couldn't they? Yeah, of course they could. I

43:00

don't know, could they? Oh yeah, there was tons

43:02

of men. It was like in the Olympics, there

43:04

was men and women ballet skiing. Are

43:07

you sure about that? Simon, what Olympic

43:09

sport has just women or just men?

43:11

Synchronized swimming. And it hasn't been dropped.

43:13

Dude, interesting. The conversation. That's the only

43:15

one that. It has not been dropped

43:17

from the Olympics. Oh, there you go.

43:19

They are not doing it. Listen, can

43:22

you look up a ballet skiing? Was

43:24

it both men's and women's? I'm positive

43:26

there was men. You're positive.

43:29

I'm positive too. You're not

43:31

even going to look it up. Well, you know

43:33

what? I have a phone right here. I'll look

43:35

it up. It was my mom's dying wish that

43:37

I became a ski ballet. In gymnastics, there's certain

43:39

disciplines that are only for men or female. The

43:44

women do the uneven bars. The men do

43:46

not. And the pommel

43:48

horse. Or no, the, oh no. I think

43:50

the men do the pommel horse. No,

43:53

they do the rings and the women

43:55

don't do the rings. The women do

43:57

the uneven parallel bars. The men don't

43:59

do. the uneven parallel bars. Not in

44:01

this ribbon. Yeah, there's no, they both

44:03

do a floor, but there's no ribbon

44:05

or ball or any of that. Oh,

44:08

yes. I'm the lady that was

44:10

too much. Anyways,

44:14

me and Simon, I know, love the Olympics, but

44:16

the really. You're talking like you don't love the

44:18

Olympics. I don't love the IOC. And

44:22

I think the IOC is more

44:24

insidious than these guys are. Or

44:27

despite your worries about Peter Thiel's intention

44:30

of being involved. But I mean, all

44:32

of those big associations, FIFA is just

44:34

as corrupt. Like any time it seems

44:37

like all those big sporting European associations.

44:40

FIFA pays. And these guys are going to

44:42

pay their athletes. Doesn't it seem though, like just

44:44

in the system that's set up for us, period,

44:47

in capitalism, that everything ends up

44:49

corrupt? Like that seems to be

44:52

you make enough money and then you just. You

44:55

know what's really. Making more bad decisions to

44:57

make more money. You know, it's really

44:59

crazy. Someone was breaking down all the

45:01

African players playing in the Euros. And

45:05

they were like they were just like

45:07

if you had to play for the country you were from, Africa

45:10

would be like one of the white, like one

45:12

of the greatest footballing

45:15

continents on earth. But they all end up playing for

45:17

Europe. Like the French team is like I was going

45:19

to say they all end up in France. The Dutch

45:21

team is the same thing. Dude, even the Scottish team

45:23

has eight African players on it. Like

45:27

it's crazy. Why I need to brought

45:29

in. No, it's the same

45:31

thing. Like Donovan Bailey ran for Canada. He's he wasn't

45:34

born in Jamaica. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean,

45:36

he's Canadian. Sorry. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. That's

45:38

why I think what they said. The nationalism things is

45:40

stupid. I need to

45:42

really matter. Glad

45:44

son. Unbelievable. What is

45:48

I need to rectify something from last week.

45:50

Thank you. He'd

45:53

like you to. Thank you for what I thought you did

45:55

something wrong to me. You know, absolutely not. Uh,

46:00

I said that both the Edmonton

46:02

Oilers and the Dallas Mavericks would

46:05

both lose their next game. I

46:07

was right about the Mavericks, but

46:09

obviously wrong about the Edmonton Oilers.

46:11

First topic on the post-show. And

46:13

just by the by, um, I

46:16

told you that Portnoy had money

46:18

on Edmonton. Team that has the

46:20

most Canadians always wins the Stanley

46:22

Cup and Edmonton has like six

46:24

more Canadians than Florida has. So

46:26

bada-bing bada-boom. Who's Florida's

46:28

captain? Kachok? Yeah.

46:31

No, no, uh, Barkov. Oh,

46:33

then they won't win. Cause it's a Euro

46:35

captain. Correct. But he's an awesome player. Um,

46:38

I'm not taking away from his awesomeness.

46:40

There's a guy in Florida. His name

46:42

is Reinhardt. Plenty of the name of

46:44

a knight or just the hero. Plenty

46:46

of your captains have won like Google

46:48

it. Lindstrom for the Google it. That

46:50

might be the one. Oh, was it?

46:52

It wasn't a Steve Iserman. Yeah, maybe

46:54

Matt Sundine couldn't win with the Leafs.

46:56

Well, the Leafs can't win. Just Google

46:58

it. European captains that have won the

47:00

Stanley Cup. You're going to be,

47:03

you're going to be shocked. Well,

47:06

ours is. I

47:08

was worried about the, uh, oilers because they're just

47:10

not physical enough. And

47:12

they're worried about the oilers because they went down three

47:14

games to none and looked like they were going to

47:16

get fucking swept. Um,

47:20

so people

47:24

do break world records. We'll

47:26

be like, yeah, I was on turn. HGH. What

47:29

like, well, I'd like to thank,

47:31

uh, the bankers of steroids or whatever

47:33

they're on three. Okay. And

47:35

the first one was Lindstrom. Yes. To give

47:37

Simon a little bit of criticism. Who else?

47:39

I can kill that. I didn't even look

47:42

good. My point remains though,

47:44

is like your odds of winning a Stanley

47:46

Cup without a Canadian captain are very fucking

47:48

slim. So do you guys think you will

47:50

never do steroids, peptides, anything

47:52

like that? All these things that

47:54

we would do them, but you just don't know who to

47:56

ask or I'd have to get injured or whatever dollars. You'd

47:58

have to get. injured. You can just take it if you're

48:00

healthy too, you know. Yeah, I get it. I just like

48:02

Simon saying, I don't have the money. And I'm not like,

48:05

we live in a place where you can't just go to the

48:07

doctor and be like, Hey, can I get a bunch of stuff

48:09

to make me feel better? They'll be like, nah. So you'd only

48:11

do it if you knew you're at least getting from a doctor,

48:13

you wouldn't get it from some gym

48:16

deal. No, it has to be free

48:18

through our medical care. That's what I

48:20

want. I

48:22

mean, I'm with Simon. You think it's an

48:24

unnecessary expense? No,

48:27

what Simon's saying is like we have healthcare. Listen,

48:36

listen, don't listen. Linda, I have to

48:38

keep my energy up. Shut the fuck

48:40

up. Why

48:44

don't you eat it right into the mic too?

48:46

Why don't you do that, Simon? This is a

48:48

joy that, Oh, look at you love chocolate, right?

48:50

Oh, look at you love chocolate. Okay. So there's

48:52

no way you'll, if you found, take

48:55

this, it's a hundred and a few dollars a month. You

48:57

do it every two days. Is this shot or it's a

48:59

pill or whatever? You wouldn't be interested in

49:01

doing that. I would if I had the money. Yeah. Money.

49:03

Yeah. That's where I'm at. Because you don't

49:05

want to do it. Then run out and be like that. I

49:09

ran out of my feel good juice and

49:11

I'm sucking. No, I'm toying a bunch of

49:13

dudes down the street. Then you're robbing corner

49:16

stores to afford your steroid fix. Like you

49:18

say, it's better to not know how good

49:20

other people are doing. Exactly. Or feeling. You

49:23

don't want to know until

49:25

you can afford that house. You don't want to

49:27

know what it looks like on the inside. Exactly.

49:30

Well, it goes for a lot of things. Like

49:32

Matt said. Goes for like, um,

49:34

everything, women, the whole nine. Everything.

49:37

These guys are on the clock and it's the end of 2025. Don't

49:41

even look at how green the grass is. Like

49:43

before you knew HUC2 existed, you were perfectly fine.

49:45

There's a way better life. Yeah. It's

49:48

true. Will there be. Your

49:51

girlfriend who just did it ordinary

49:53

Joe. Yeah. Or

49:56

in Camars case, Joe who did it ordinary.

49:58

Holy fuck man. I am on fire. Look

50:00

at the sky. Since I picked him up,

50:02

I called him fuck boy Billy. That

50:05

was the first thing I said to him. I called

50:07

him fuck boy Billy. Dude, I have been on fire.

50:10

I called him fuck boy Billy. The better one was

50:12

Eminem. Oh, Eminem. That was

50:14

my next one. You

50:17

know what I've realized is that you

50:19

can judge Kumar's age every year based

50:21

on his photos.

50:25

He has no experience with his photos. He's

50:27

a little bit older now. He

50:29

was like on a little bit older. This

50:31

year they were like arms length away. He couldn't have touched

50:33

one of them if he tried. By the time he's 70,

50:35

the photo will be white. He

50:38

waits for other people taking photos and takes

50:40

his selfie behind him. Did you see the

50:42

picture of those three girls? Oh my God.

50:45

So I went up and said, can I take a picture with you. Don't

50:47

worry, I don't have to stand with you. It's just for the grands.

50:49

He's like, I'm trying to be a good girl. I don't have to

50:51

stand with you. It's just

50:53

for the gram. Oh dude.

50:57

Not the creep or anything. Fucking hilarious. Here

50:59

let me get a picture of you. If

51:04

you have to preface with I'm not a creep,

51:06

what you're about to do, you shouldn't be doing.

51:08

Probably creepy. Yeah. I love it,

51:10

Kamar. Probably should just be at home watching

51:12

Escapade on one of your little feeds. Yes,

51:15

I did go to Escapade and yes, I

51:17

am going tonight and yes, we'll talk about

51:19

it on the post Joe. I

51:22

don't think you get to decide what

51:25

we talk about. On

51:27

the post Joe, I actually think he does. I have, I

51:29

got bad news for you. So I'm, you might be new

51:31

to this, but like he's pretty much in charge of that

51:33

shit. We'll

51:35

be right back. Yeah. Are you done

51:38

with the enhanced games? I give it a three. I'm

51:40

very interested in what happens. Is

51:42

that the appropriate amount of time? Yeah, that's

51:44

fine. This, this week was just not it.

51:47

It's a two hour podcast. You can't talk

51:49

about two hour podcasts for two hours. That's

51:51

true. Who is driving this train? Not

51:53

you, Maddie. And

51:56

you know what Simon, I'm at the back smoking a joint. Yeah,

52:00

no, I'll give it a three as well. So,

52:03

I mean, you couldn't have hated this episode. Like it was an interesting, this

52:06

was an interesting talk. The one guy had a cute German

52:09

accent. And I don't know anyone who's had these guys. I

52:11

might even bump into them before, but I don't want you

52:13

to be mad at me. I was gonna say three and

52:15

a half. Yeah, it's like you jumped down my throat. He's

52:18

talking about this happening. These are the guys

52:20

running it. You see again, the Jews with

52:22

their finger on everything, holding our rating system

52:24

down. Yeah, holding our

52:26

rating system down. It's

52:29

the JOC, not the IOC. Oh

52:32

look, I made it sunny outside. Shut

52:34

the fuck up. It's

52:37

the JOC. The best is if some of

52:39

the events, part of the guy's

52:41

cocktail of drugs is smoke and weed.

52:43

He's just puffing with a huge thing

52:45

right before he goes. Everything

52:47

just slowly turns over like it's

52:50

GFA. Yeah, yeah, I like

52:52

that. Yeah. Jike,

52:55

Juma. Well, you know about this on

52:57

JupyT. You rate

52:59

it Simon, can you give it your shit rating so we

53:01

can take a break? I

53:04

like the idea of the Juiced Olympics, seems

53:06

fun. Just something else to cheer for. Didn't

53:09

care for the Fire Island twins. No,

53:11

you mean the Firefly Festival. Is that

53:14

what you mean? Because Fire Island is

53:16

just a gay party place. But

53:18

you think- I'm gonna hold strong to what

53:21

I said. But Firefly is like this great

53:23

idea and it turns out a complete disaster.

53:25

That's not what you meant. Are you trying

53:27

to like cover my ass here somehow? No,

53:29

I meant to ask you. No, I meant

53:31

Fire Island. Perfect, you both work. I'm gonna

53:33

go with- He's like, Simon has not been

53:35

to this gay island. Simon's like, I am

53:37

talking about this gay island. I'm gonna assure

53:39

you that's the one I'm talking about. Two.

53:42

Two, okay. Great. Both

53:44

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53:46

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55:10

We're back. Kamar,

55:14

name Unnambah, yeah? Well, I thought on the

55:16

heels of the enhanced games, it'd be appropriate

55:19

to do 2167, 2167, Nolan Arba. Who

55:24

obviously Simon, you're coming in as a bias because

55:26

it's too close to Elon. We

55:30

all have rolling chairs in honor of this

55:32

guy. Holy.

55:34

Right off the top, right off the top.

55:36

I told you I'm on fire today, buddy.

55:38

Jesus. I've

55:44

got a bomb. This guy, if we look

55:46

back at history, could be a

55:49

big thing. How old is that?

55:51

Sorry, Kamar. Why are we doing this? Let's

55:53

start by saying like, Joe is clearly just

55:56

at this point, an

55:58

advertisement for anything. Elon's

56:00

doing like a mouthpiece. I just think he had

56:02

the same place, same time. It just is a

56:04

coincidence. I don't think it's that orchestrated. I think

56:06

it would make sense that both of them were

56:08

being run by Jim Baker

56:11

or whatever the fuck his name is.

56:13

Kamar, if anyone else were putting implants

56:15

in people's heads, Joe would be like,

56:18

not fucking cool, man. Because

56:21

Elon's doing it. The electric car

56:23

is so clearly a ploy by

56:28

the powers that be to fuck up

56:30

our whole system for whatever reason. Like

56:33

Joe can clearly see that just like

56:35

anybody else can, but he's the biggest

56:37

proponent of electric cars. I wonder that,

56:39

but there was a documentary called Who

56:41

Killed the Electric Car? Yeah, we remember

56:44

it. And so the powers

56:46

that be, it was the oil industry or

56:48

whatever. They murdered that guy. They

56:50

murdered that guy and now they're thriving and

56:52

they're getting to push their electric cars. Like

56:56

why it didn't work then, but now

56:58

it's- Well, they've probably had enough time

57:00

now to the same way the cigarette

57:02

companies got ready to become vape companies.

57:05

So you feel electric cars are bad? A

57:07

hundred percent. Or newer evil because the

57:09

energy is gonna take to run them

57:11

and the batteries and all that. Well,

57:14

and we know that it's not gonna

57:16

make a lick of a difference. To

57:18

changing the climate. At all,

57:21

zero, zero, zero, zero.

57:23

The amount of pollution that our

57:25

cars put off is like two

57:27

trips of a ocean

57:29

liner across the Pacific or the Atlantic

57:31

or wherever the fuck they go. And

57:33

it's sort of like cutting off our

57:35

noses by their face that we're suffering

57:37

to make no difference. Yeah, and we

57:39

can clearly see that it's like become

57:42

a platform and an agenda for you'll

57:45

have bugs. You'll own nothing and

57:47

you'll like it. It's one

57:49

step away. If they can control the

57:51

grid, then they can tell you when

57:53

you can and can't drive. You

57:58

just don't know it yet. They've

58:00

already done it in California where they're like,

58:03

sorry, nobody can recharge their cars

58:05

today. Otherwise we're going to crash the grid.

58:07

That hits different when you can't drive. So

58:12

be it. Um, Simon, first of

58:14

all, what if you couldn't get to some like

58:16

a rave concert you wanted to go to? I'll

58:19

put it in his team. I think

58:21

that we want every week just in

58:23

the allotted rain area. And

58:27

if we fed the grace, there's one electric

58:29

bus. Yeah. That feeds you gruel. It takes

58:31

you to the rave area forever because they're

58:33

going to implant our bodies with, um, robotic

58:36

parts to make us a machine

58:38

than man. Yeah.

58:41

Rave all day party all night. I would

58:43

say 25%, maybe 20% of the people dance.

58:49

Most people are just. That's

58:51

because they don't have the MDMA drip. Once

58:53

everyone has that it'll be in unison. Darude

58:55

will be playing nonstop. Like 70 years old,

58:57

but you're the fucking guy on top of

58:59

the speakers. Yeah. But they actually, they rate

59:01

your elbow like in rave. They're like, you'll

59:03

be, you'll get 70,000 of these before you

59:07

have to go get it serviced. I got chemical brothers

59:09

before you have to return. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Um,

59:13

I got chemical brothers elbow. I

59:16

have, uh, in technology

59:18

and innovation, there always has to

59:20

be a first. I

59:23

mean, what really sucks is, uh,

59:26

Nolan passes away next week. I don't know if

59:28

you saw the guy with the big heart or

59:30

something passed away when they're always, there's a innovation.

59:32

It was interesting when they talked about, um, animal

59:34

testing, because he, we just don't want to know

59:36

about it. But when they test, do

59:39

something animals, he's saying they have to kill them right away,

59:41

halfway through three way through to see all

59:44

the things. So this guy sort of could

59:46

be seen as a hero or, or,

59:49

um, a pioneer in, um,

59:51

I mean, I felt terrible for him when he was talking about how

59:53

like, he's like, yeah, if

59:56

this, if this trial just ends tomorrow, it's just

59:58

like, that's it. And. This

1:00:00

thing's just done for me. And you're like, that's got

1:00:02

to stay. So thank you to him for taking this

1:00:04

risk. And the best is he

1:00:07

found out about it because his buddy

1:00:09

was drunk. That's the best. And you

1:00:11

feel down like we got to do

1:00:13

something. Hey man, you got to check

1:00:15

this out. And it all has come

1:00:17

to fruition. Would you feel better about

1:00:19

the animal testing if you knew that,

1:00:21

um, all the animals used in those

1:00:23

experiments were grown at that

1:00:26

lab, as opposed to like going out

1:00:28

and capturing monkeys so you can test

1:00:30

them in trials. I feel fine about

1:00:32

the animal testing because we're stupid not

1:00:34

to do it. Like you're making these

1:00:36

animals to do this thing as

1:00:39

opposed to like going and

1:00:41

stealing dolphins. So you can't

1:00:43

be mean. Yeah. I don't

1:00:46

think we should do experiments on dolphins,

1:00:49

but if it's dogs and monkeys, I

1:00:51

don't care how you get them. Hey,

1:00:53

you don't care how you get them.

1:00:55

No. See, I'm against the harvesting outside

1:00:58

of the lab, but if they're just

1:01:00

growing them in the lab to then

1:01:02

do that, I mean, I don't

1:01:04

love it, but I feel way better about it.

1:01:06

Did you know at the, I think it was

1:01:08

the Chicago world's fair. Um,

1:01:11

the incubator for babies has just become

1:01:13

a new technology for premies and stuff,

1:01:15

and they actually had premature

1:01:18

babies as like a attraction at

1:01:20

the fair. That's insane. It's insane.

1:01:22

And it's true. You can look

1:01:24

it up just in the museum

1:01:26

of science and technology. I

1:01:29

got to get out there again. They don't have

1:01:31

it anymore, but remember they had the chicks in

1:01:33

the incubator in the middle of and you could

1:01:35

walk around it and you could see all the,

1:01:37

was that at science and technology or maybe it

1:01:39

was the museum a man. I don't think that

1:01:42

was an Ottawa. There's a, no, no, no, no,

1:01:44

no. It was definitely in Ottawa. Um, is that

1:01:46

inhumane? It's not the one with the trains. It's

1:01:48

the museum of science and tech tech. Yeah. That's

1:01:50

no big deal. Cause they were showing you the

1:01:52

incubator. That was the whole thing. So you're saying

1:01:54

something like that, but it just had babies in

1:01:56

it. I was walking along the canal and they

1:01:59

put. of all these black strips right

1:02:02

along the water's edge around Dowsley. It seems. Yeah.

1:02:04

And when you get close, you see it's all ducks.

1:02:08

Is there a little chill area and they have

1:02:10

little babies and stuff. And I look at them. That's

1:02:12

all right. I just

1:02:14

animals is it makes sense to

1:02:16

test them to for us to

1:02:18

be safer. Have you heard that we can hunt and

1:02:21

humans too. Uh, we

1:02:23

can hunt Canadian geese again. Really?

1:02:26

Yeah. There are so many geese that they've made

1:02:28

it so you can. That's so weird.

1:02:30

Cause it used to be illegal to hunt them. No, I

1:02:32

know someone two days ago was like, God, I wish I

1:02:34

could hunt geese. I think that was me. No, it was

1:02:36

not you because they shit everywhere. I,

1:02:39

they, it came up cause I was like, uh,

1:02:41

someone was like, yeah, I want to blues fest next week. And I was

1:02:44

like, are you? I was like, you're just going to be hanging out with

1:02:46

all the geese cause blues fest isn't for

1:02:48

another two weeks. And then someone was

1:02:50

like, I wish I could fucking kill those geese.

1:02:52

And that's how it came up. But that's weird.

1:02:54

And you just have to figure out a holiday

1:02:56

to associate the goose with. So we all eat

1:02:59

roasted goose on pride week or

1:03:01

whatever. You know what I mean? Pick a, Oh, that's

1:03:03

good. Give it to the gays. They'll make it a

1:03:05

good dish. Are they delicious? Well,

1:03:08

I imagine so. It must be like a giant

1:03:10

duck. Get their hands on it. It's going to

1:03:12

be like a real dark, dark, dark

1:03:15

meat bird. So,

1:03:17

uh, he said the

1:03:19

brain moves. That's a real dark meat bird.

1:03:22

Real dark meat bird. Uh, BBG, if you

1:03:24

must. Nolan Nolan was talking

1:03:26

about big black. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Go

1:03:28

ahead. Simon, go ahead. Come on. No,

1:03:30

you want Simon to keep going. No, he's on fire.

1:03:33

I am on fire. He wants to stifle

1:03:35

me. It's true. Nolan said they have these

1:03:38

receptors that are smaller than a human hair.

1:03:41

Um, I think we all have them. We're in no,

1:03:43

but these, these are the things that come

1:03:45

out a little, whatever. I imagine it looks

1:03:47

like a quarter and,

1:03:50

uh, they, some of

1:03:52

them pulled out because the brain moves. Yeah.

1:03:55

So throbbing. And I've talked about when

1:03:57

I've done DMT, I hear. a

1:04:00

constant rhythmica sound that's the exact

1:04:02

same. Do you think that's

1:04:04

your brain throbbing? I do.

1:04:06

So is the brain like

1:04:08

actively repelling these little, like

1:04:11

they're trying to get in to attach this

1:04:13

connection and the brain is pushing them out?

1:04:15

I think they might be sort of static

1:04:17

and not that flexible. But

1:04:19

the brain is actively pushing this out is what

1:04:21

you're saying. No, I feel like they put them

1:04:24

in thinking that there was no tide and it

1:04:26

pulls out. Then it comes in. That

1:04:28

sort of tension maybe makes them break.

1:04:30

I don't, I didn't think of something

1:04:32

being a wire smaller than human hair.

1:04:34

It's hard to grasp. Sorry. Can you

1:04:36

answer me? I can't. You don't

1:04:38

remember what they said? No, I just, yeah, I can't

1:04:41

wrap my head around it. He said

1:04:43

they lost connection because the brain, it turns out the brain.

1:04:45

That's what he said. He did say the brain is moving.

1:04:48

I'm saying that the brain is actively repelling.

1:04:51

Dr. Dr. Anisman over

1:04:54

here. Listen, I

1:04:56

don't know a lot about a lot, but

1:04:58

I. Can imagine that your brain doesn't want

1:05:00

a bunch of little tendrils. Well, what's interesting

1:05:02

is your dad actually plays a brain doctor.

1:05:05

You could just ask him. I can. If

1:05:07

you got something in your skin

1:05:09

or something, they'd probably get infected. I

1:05:11

mean, usually that's the body's reaction

1:05:14

to a foreign. Well, that is what it does.

1:05:16

Kumar is it pushes it out. Have you ever

1:05:18

got a splinter before it

1:05:20

creates pus underneath. So it pushes that piece

1:05:22

of wood. That's you that that's what I

1:05:24

think is. You're arguing with the diagnosis from

1:05:27

the experts have done that. Great man. I

1:05:29

mean, the off

1:05:31

the table. The diagnosis from the

1:05:33

experts who work for Elon Musk.

1:05:37

Well, okay. That's a weird. Yeah. I mean,

1:05:39

that's a weird, but the brain is like,

1:05:41

listen, let's yeah. You don't think Elon Musk

1:05:43

storms through the fucking lab. Just like, these

1:05:46

are the results I'm looking for. Who's got

1:05:48

them for me. I

1:05:50

just want to Simon. I just, I think you

1:05:52

and I need to reserve. He

1:05:57

could just be a good guy trying to help out. I

1:06:00

know we both think he's an evil billionaire and we're

1:06:02

probably right, because that's where I like to

1:06:04

live. However, like

1:06:07

if, let's say neurolinking 20 years is helping

1:06:10

people walk again who have spinal injuries, helping

1:06:12

blind people see deaf people here, like, who

1:06:15

gives a fuck? I guess I'll cut him a break at that point.

1:06:19

Well, do you not deserve to be one of the richest

1:06:21

people in the world if you have a call for slack?

1:06:23

And if you do that, you can also in turn cut

1:06:25

Joe a break for cutting Elon's

1:06:27

slack and realize Joe doesn't

1:06:29

care what you care about who he has on.

1:06:31

And I've already realized that it must be.

1:06:33

Oh, Joe doesn't care about what I care about.

1:06:37

Sorry, I'm glad you're sitting

1:06:39

down. Breaking news. But

1:06:42

just how the guests come and goes, people's schedule.

1:06:44

It's just, it is what it is. It's random.

1:06:47

Are you talking about who he has on the show? Yeah.

1:06:51

I feel what you open up with a Joe who's just lost it and

1:06:54

completely thrown it away. But I don't know.

1:06:56

I just said, I think he thinks he's

1:06:58

doing us a favor. And this is, I

1:07:00

know you. Was

1:07:06

that you? I sounded like Matt through his voice.

1:07:09

How are you blaming this on me? Back

1:07:12

me up, Matt. Solidarity. So

1:07:15

he is lost. He's a paraplegic, which

1:07:17

is the worst kind of. Whoa,

1:07:21

whoa, go on. The worst kind of a

1:07:23

paraplegic. The worst kind of what? No, he's

1:07:26

a quadriplegic. I said paraplegic. Quadriplegic

1:07:28

is the worst kind. The worst kind of. The

1:07:31

worst kind of pelagic. No, the

1:07:33

worst kind of swimmer. I

1:07:35

thought he was gonna say human, but I was

1:07:37

leaving the door wide open for him. You know?

1:07:40

Swimmer makes more sense. Pelagic.

1:07:44

Para-plegic. Pelagic. It's the worst of the

1:07:46

pelagic. Are we pelagic? What a great

1:07:48

way to introduce yourself. Para, paraplegic. But

1:07:50

are we all pelagic? You're normal. I'm

1:07:52

a pelagic. We're pelagic because we haven't

1:07:54

lost anything. And if you lose something,

1:07:56

it's para. If you lose it all,

1:07:58

it's para. It's quadriplegic. Is there nothing

1:08:00

in between? It's just para to quadra.

1:08:02

Yeah, there's three states of

1:08:04

pelagics That's

1:08:07

interesting like someone lost but like they were

1:08:09

quadra, but then they got one arm back

1:08:11

so what are you like a tri pelagic?

1:08:15

No, it'd be like a try

1:08:17

quarter pelagic, okay? No if you only

1:08:19

have one arm No

1:08:23

pelagic has something to do with living on the open sea,

1:08:25

but any Which

1:08:28

is ironic because they can't swim he was talking about how he

1:08:30

has a good sense of people and their

1:08:35

questions like people trying to get him to say

1:08:37

something bad about Elon or something because he imagined

1:08:39

if your Those senses are taken

1:08:42

away your brain is more more Acute

1:08:44

as a bullshit reader. I Assume

1:08:47

I usually my right hand is the bullshit reader. You're right. If

1:08:49

I lost all my what are you talking?

1:08:53

I always it when? Thank

1:08:55

you for question because I don't always

1:08:57

know daredevil yeah lost his sight is other senses

1:09:01

You're talking about a comic book character right now. What the

1:09:03

fuck is happening life? First

1:09:05

of all what's you know where he didn't

1:09:07

lose any sense who this guy he's the

1:09:09

sense of touch He

1:09:13

can still feel like if you touch his face he can

1:09:15

feel that you're touching him I thought this is a good

1:09:17

time to also bring up. Do you think this is what

1:09:19

I'm talking about? It's so amazing that he just compared him

1:09:22

to there's a sense of taste yeah for in you assume

1:09:24

food Okay,

1:09:30

well, what about clothing? movies

1:09:33

food Yeah

1:09:35

taste in things like what does my clothes

1:09:38

taste like I don't think that's the type of

1:09:41

taste they're talking about I think it's all all

1:09:44

Do you think this guy lost you think this guy

1:09:46

lost his fashion ability when he burst? This

1:09:49

guy lost his fashion ability when he broke his

1:09:51

spine He can't wear nice sneakers

1:09:53

because he has no feeling below the legs

1:09:55

You're retarded by what I'm saying broke my

1:09:57

spine. They put me in Crocs and it

1:09:59

was crocs forever by my take

1:10:02

he should be a really snazzy dresser are

1:10:04

you are you wearing Lulu lemon pants right

1:10:06

now like I feel terrible that we're making

1:10:08

so much fun of this gentleman I

1:10:10

felt a really bad for him and like we're

1:10:12

not kamar it's true oh you guys are feeling

1:10:15

bad for him I just want to say for

1:10:17

the I'm calling this guy hero a legend a

1:10:19

pioneer I don't know you're

1:10:21

trying to insinuate that he's some sort of superhero

1:10:23

first of all no I'm trying to sing when

1:10:26

you lose something you must gain something and

1:10:30

it must be something mental like

1:10:33

a sense of people their intentions I'm just

1:10:35

assuming I don't know he

1:10:38

sort of said he did that though do

1:10:40

you think the good of this outweighs the bad

1:10:44

the potential good what's the bad of this

1:10:46

I don't get it well when they get

1:10:49

into talking about it becomes everywhere mainstream and

1:10:51

so controls it I think on its way

1:10:53

to destroying humanity it'll probably

1:10:55

do some people good in the meantime

1:10:58

and learn some things about the brain

1:11:00

that could help other things like but

1:11:02

but the end result is gonna be

1:11:04

that we all get farmed for our

1:11:07

organs by the machines so I

1:11:09

think my problem is that doesn't

1:11:12

really matter how you get there e

1:11:16

class 6 to HT 1 we

1:11:19

taking a break change

1:11:22

the music think

1:11:24

he's run out of MDMA it must

1:11:26

be a clog in the tube he

1:11:34

always does this he laughs himself and was into a

1:11:36

tizzy and then he's lost he's

1:11:40

saying he can play video games without any motor

1:11:42

skills that

1:11:45

is crazy and

1:11:47

he's gonna play tournaments and not tell people because

1:11:50

there's still the I like how he's it well

1:11:52

it's funny because when he said that I I

1:11:54

was like all the big tournaments are done in

1:11:56

person so I'm like I

1:11:59

was like I just love the thought that he's like,

1:12:01

they won't, they won't know. He's

1:12:03

not, he hasn't moved it. He's just

1:12:06

getting a hundred kills. So wait, let me

1:12:08

get this straight. Um, this

1:12:11

guy can think about like shooting in

1:12:13

the video game and he shoots. He

1:12:15

thinks about turning left and he turns

1:12:18

left. Correct. Yeah.

1:12:20

That's pretty fucking crazy. It is

1:12:22

crazy because to think to

1:12:24

thumb, like you can't imagine all those

1:12:26

decisions you're making when you're playing video

1:12:28

game. His thumbs aren't actually moving though,

1:12:30

are they? No, he can't move his

1:12:32

thumbs. Who's the asshole? No, I'm, I'm

1:12:35

saying there's no, no, he was saying

1:12:38

Simon, he was like, the system bypasses

1:12:40

this to get to this. What he

1:12:42

said was that there was times where

1:12:44

he felt like it was faster than

1:12:49

his thought, like as in like, cause

1:12:52

I guess it, like it's, it's, I mean, look

1:12:54

at, they say that when you play video

1:12:56

games, you should stay plugged in because it's less, uh,

1:12:59

latency lost, right? Like the Bluetooth

1:13:01

from the controller to the thing

1:13:03

slows down every, every little decision

1:13:05

matters. So imagine this guy, like

1:13:09

if I'm like, I want to look right, I got

1:13:11

to move my thumb and then the thing goes in.

1:13:14

This guy's just like, he even thinks like, should I

1:13:16

look right? And it's automatically like we're looking right. It's

1:13:18

crazy. Same thing to shoot.

1:13:21

Like you're like, shoot, shoot, shoot. Like it it's

1:13:23

instantaneous. It's yeah. I mean,

1:13:25

that'll be good for war. I imagine. Just

1:13:27

with all the things, like when they break

1:13:29

down how a football player or a quarterback,

1:13:33

all the calculations and stuff he does in a

1:13:35

second to meet up with that guy, one in

1:13:37

that or golfer to get there, all

1:13:39

this stuff, just a bit faster already

1:13:41

than, than already. So

1:13:44

this guy's paraplegic, but if you had all your,

1:13:48

I don't even understand. It would suck to imagine

1:13:50

you like you're a quadriplegic and they hook you

1:13:52

up to the game and you're still getting dusted

1:13:54

by 12 year old Korean kids. Like you're like,

1:13:56

I'm literally main veining this game right now. I

1:13:58

still can't fucking win. would be wild

1:14:01

if there's an eventual sync up and

1:14:03

you have a robot

1:14:06

bodyguard. They

1:14:08

can just direct a

1:14:10

surrogate surrogate. That would be pretty fucking cool.

1:14:12

Yeah, that would be cool. Um,

1:14:16

an important thing to note is that,

1:14:18

uh, his body is deteriorated to point

1:14:20

that it can't, yeah,

1:14:23

that was crazy. I never thought about the

1:14:25

ad. Matter if you had a surgery, I'm

1:14:27

sure maybe 10 years or another be different,

1:14:29

but if you

1:14:31

don't use your body, just deteriorates. It's just, it's

1:14:33

just a fact. It's, it's one of the truths

1:14:35

of life. You're like a brain in a jar

1:14:38

at that point. At the same time though, he

1:14:40

doesn't know, like if they shot every, like every

1:14:42

area affected, if they shot it up with enough

1:14:44

STEM cells might like

1:14:47

with the proper PT and exercise and

1:14:49

stuff, you might be able to, we

1:14:51

don't know what the future holds. Or

1:14:53

maybe if, if the protocol is, you

1:14:56

know, conceived right when this happens to someone

1:14:59

as preventing atrophy.

1:15:01

But I think even living people, if you

1:15:03

don't, if you're inactive and you aren't moving,

1:15:06

it'll happen to you to a much less degree

1:15:08

because you are somewhat moving. That's a good point

1:15:10

though, Camara. They're like, you never know in the

1:15:12

future too, they could hook this, like someone, you

1:15:14

could become a quadriplegic and day one, they hook

1:15:16

you up to a machine where

1:15:18

for an hour a day it's moving

1:15:21

your arms, right? So like you're

1:15:23

not, obviously you're not controlling it, but for the,

1:15:25

for the pure like muscle movement, I'm

1:15:28

just saying maybe you're suspended in liquid

1:15:30

as well. That might be a different,

1:15:32

maybe not say your joints. I'm like,

1:15:34

I'm crying. Your whole body would go

1:15:36

all prune fingers. Ew

1:15:39

brother. Ew. Special

1:15:42

thing. Well, what I hope is that this

1:15:44

is somewhere when they talk about how small

1:15:46

these fibers are, the

1:15:49

ultimate like nanotechnology. So

1:15:52

these nanobots just inject them. Like you have

1:15:54

a case and something happens, you inject it

1:15:56

and they fix you from

1:15:59

the inside on a. cellular level. Like

1:16:01

you said, I won't be alive for

1:16:03

that, but a

1:16:06

breakthrough. I like that thing in Prometheus, that fucking

1:16:08

thing. Everyone just has where you lay in it

1:16:10

and just all your elements are gone. Right

1:16:13

now, I guess that's the cold plunge, but

1:16:16

I think most importantly, it's for

1:16:18

someone to listen to

1:16:20

this podcast themselves because we

1:16:23

all have our own take on it. Well,

1:16:25

yeah, you should also, you know what? Every

1:16:28

once in a while, these are good because you really got to

1:16:30

take stock. Like we all bitch and moan about our day to

1:16:32

day. Tomorrow you could not

1:16:34

be able to walk and be a burden on everyone in your

1:16:36

life. And you know, and this guy's

1:16:38

not, this guy's not a whoa, whoa is

1:16:41

me at all. No, he wasn't. That was the hardest

1:16:43

part was hearing him be like, I am like, dude,

1:16:45

that was tough. It was tough. This is a tough

1:16:47

listen. I, I now stand by my, this was a

1:16:49

better week than the two I gave it. I think,

1:16:51

I think that, um, it's a testament

1:16:53

and inspiration that the human mind is conditioned

1:16:55

to no matter what happens to you, like

1:16:57

get on with it. Yeah. Fight through. Yeah.

1:16:59

Don't die. Cause you can't run from it.

1:17:02

No. That's

1:17:05

terrible. Um, he's

1:17:07

in the right spot though, right now. I know

1:17:10

he may not be in this, um, trial

1:17:13

forever, but I

1:17:15

imagine this is like as groundbreaking as it

1:17:18

gets. That's what I said at

1:17:20

the top. Even then it sounds like when he gets out of

1:17:22

the trial, Joe's going to hook him up with some STEM cell

1:17:24

people who might be able to help them a little bit. You

1:17:26

never know. You could also

1:17:28

go on and kill Tony. I feel like

1:17:30

Joe was saying he would, uh, make

1:17:33

the introduction, not necessarily

1:17:35

that he was paying for the,

1:17:37

uh, Joe's like, I have

1:17:40

a t-shirt idea that might be able to help you

1:17:42

get the STEM cells. That's right. That's right. That's

1:17:44

all I got for this. Boys. I give it a four. I'll

1:17:47

give it a three. Yeah.

1:17:50

I mean, oh, like

1:17:53

you, Matt, I think my minus

1:17:55

one point five may have been

1:17:57

a little definitely agree. Just definitely.

1:18:00

jumping on a grenade if we learn something

1:18:02

from this. No, listen, in his listen, I

1:18:05

don't go that far. Like if I'm in his position,

1:18:07

I'm going to do anything short

1:18:09

of like going to India for what I'm saying is

1:18:11

what is you have to lose. That's what I'm saying.

1:18:14

If an American company is like we have this breakthrough

1:18:16

technology that could change your life, of course I'm going

1:18:18

to do it. I'll jump on that grenade 10 times

1:18:20

out of 10. And if this

1:18:22

podcast was to get this guy. People

1:18:28

to donate to him or like that's

1:18:30

amazing. I'm all for that. I just

1:18:32

don't love that it ends up also

1:18:34

being a commercial for Elon Musk. That

1:18:36

I think is where the, I mean,

1:18:38

again, I'm torn because like if neuro

1:18:40

link is what it is touted to

1:18:42

be in closing, I wanted to say this. It's

1:18:45

real. Like we live in a world

1:18:47

where the biggest richest companies on earth

1:18:50

get hacked. And

1:18:52

so it's, it's pretty fucking dicey

1:18:54

to imagine. Unless

1:18:57

you're in this guy's position, it's pretty dicey to

1:18:59

imagine just putting an implant in your head. The

1:19:03

one glaring thing about this. No

1:19:05

greed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

1:19:07

yet there'd be a lineup of people around the block to

1:19:09

do. Well, of course. We want to go to Mars. But

1:19:11

you know what I mean? Like when you hear that an

1:19:14

18 year old hacked the CIA, you're like, well, obviously

1:19:16

someone can hack into one of these things if

1:19:19

they really felt, you know what I mean? Let

1:19:21

alone who's making them. And is there a back

1:19:23

door of some that have they given that to

1:19:25

the government? Listen,

1:19:28

he has to do it because he's in

1:19:30

a position where he probably

1:19:33

doesn't have a lot of options. There's

1:19:35

nothing for us to do, but this

1:19:37

podcast came in at an hour and 36 minutes. Yeah.

1:19:40

I wonder if that's because he can't sit and

1:19:42

talk like that for a while. I imagine that

1:19:44

was more it. Because Joe didn't want to talk

1:19:46

about any, um, hot

1:19:48

topics, so to speak with him. It

1:19:50

was just about the one thing which

1:19:53

doesn't always happen when you're, he does

1:19:56

these podcasts that don't, you just stick to one through line, but

1:19:58

that's all he wanted to know about. I'll imagine

1:20:00

he's like, what do you think about Palestine? This guy's like, fuck

1:20:02

the Jews. But I think this is historic

1:20:05

and everyone should listen to it just for that reason.

1:20:09

By the way, that reminds me. Go to the, say the next name

1:20:11

so we can start, but I want to say something. 2165, Jackie Carr.

1:20:16

I don't know if you guys know this, but

1:20:18

Cloudflare, they're the company that handles most of the

1:20:20

internet security on earth. You've heard of them? I'm

1:20:23

sure no one, anyone? I haven't heard of Cloudflare.

1:20:25

Okay, I'm sure you've clicked on a Cloudflare button

1:20:27

to get on some website. Anyway, the point is

1:20:29

this. They have at their

1:20:31

headquarters, this is insane. They have at their

1:20:33

headquarters, like a hundred lava lamps on display.

1:20:37

And those lava lamps control the algorithm

1:20:39

that keeps the internet safe. Isn't

1:20:42

that fucking lunacy? What do you mean the

1:20:44

lava lamps control? So they have

1:20:46

a camera or multiple cameras

1:20:48

that are on the lava lamps at

1:20:50

all times. And the cameras

1:20:52

are hooked up to this thing

1:20:54

that tracks the movement of all the lava lamps.

1:20:57

And the lava lamps control the algorithm

1:20:59

that keeps the internet safe. Because they

1:21:01

say it's impossible to hack because it's

1:21:03

completely random. Because there's so many of

1:21:05

them and they never do the same

1:21:08

thing quite right. So the pure randomness

1:21:10

of it makes it almost impossible to

1:21:12

hack. Of how the balls break up

1:21:14

and it's totally random because there's a

1:21:16

whole wall. Precisely, exactly. That's interesting. Isn't

1:21:18

that nuts? So the internet is literally

1:21:20

being kept safe by an invention

1:21:23

that was made while looking for the cure for

1:21:25

cancer. Isn't that fucking wild?

1:21:27

That's how the lava lamp was made? Yeah. Really?

1:21:31

Yeah. What were they? They were trying to find a cure

1:21:33

for cancer and they invented the lava

1:21:35

lamp. Really?

1:21:39

That's, sounds so

1:21:41

fucking fishy. Ha ha ha ha ha. And

1:21:46

now I find out that lava lamps

1:21:49

are kind of controlling. Keeping the internet

1:21:51

safe. The most important thing in the

1:21:53

universe. Yeah. Crazy,

1:21:56

huh? What's inside a lava

1:21:59

lamp? wax, right? I believe,

1:22:01

yeah, it's paraffin wax. Yeah. A little

1:22:03

element at the bottom. Yeah. Because you

1:22:05

know it's very much like a lava

1:22:07

lamp. Go on. Liquid mercury. OK.

1:22:10

Well, you can just say mercury. No,

1:22:13

mercury can be a solid. Yeah,

1:22:15

but at room temperature, it's a liquid. And most

1:22:17

of the time. Anyways. OK. It's

1:22:20

at room temperature. I think it's a little

1:22:22

below room temperature. You know you can't handle

1:22:24

mercury? Well,

1:22:27

you can. You shouldn't. It's dangerous.

1:22:30

It's toxic. Yeah. And so

1:22:32

I was talking about Sir Isaac Newton was working with

1:22:34

it. Like they found mercury in

1:22:36

his hair and stuff. So that would

1:22:38

leave you to believe that he was actually just crazy.

1:22:41

Everybody was getting high off their own supply. Just splashing

1:22:43

it around. You don't know what's coming on. Like,

1:22:45

look. You find out that

1:22:48

like Darwin was sitting

1:22:50

under the tree because he was nodding out

1:22:52

on fucking heroin or something. Wasn't that Newton?

1:22:56

It wasn't important for the joke. I'm sorry. OK.

1:22:58

Just the guy under the tree with the apples.

1:23:00

Yeah, Newton. Was it Newton? It was Newton. Sir

1:23:02

Isaac Newton. Newton was the light bulb guy. No.

1:23:04

That was Benjamin Franklin. Franklin. Edison. Edison is the

1:23:07

light bulb guy. No, I don't know. Jack

1:23:10

Carr, back to the author, ex-Navy Seal,

1:23:12

was talking about. I don't

1:23:14

know if you've heard, but it's going around

1:23:16

that Woody Harrelson doesn't have a bulb. I

1:23:18

think we were really disrespectful to the wheelchair

1:23:21

guy. I mean, listen. I think

1:23:23

you guys heard it. It's labeled as a comedy podcast. No,

1:23:25

you were the worst. No, I wasn't. All I said was

1:23:28

he couldn't swim. That is a true fact. You

1:23:30

were the one calling him those people and saying

1:23:32

things like that. Out of love. You roast the

1:23:35

ones you love. Chicken

1:23:37

nugget. I

1:23:40

have a bomb. Woody Harrelson doesn't have

1:23:42

a phone. Could you

1:23:44

imagine that existence, even though you've experienced

1:23:47

it, but going back to that? Do

1:23:51

I still get an iPad? Because

1:23:56

if I still get an iPad, then I can get rid of it.

1:23:58

I'm just going to say I don't make phone calls. I don't

1:24:00

take phone calls. I rarely answer texts. Like,

1:24:02

yeah. Well, his point is he doesn't

1:24:04

like the idea of any human being able to get

1:24:06

a hold of them at any time. Okay. Perfect. I

1:24:08

just want a thing to get me to the internet.

1:24:12

Yeah. And then you could get a flip. I don't even need the flip-flop.

1:24:16

We go back to having a landline. Well, you

1:24:18

should do that now. By the way,

1:24:20

iPads are, I've never owned an iPad, which is odd.

1:24:23

Now that I say it out loud. Um,

1:24:25

they're fucking insane now. They're

1:24:28

absolutely their capability. It is. Yeah. It's

1:24:30

lunacy. It's crazy. What does that

1:24:32

mean? I just, what you can do, like it used

1:24:34

to be an iPad. Like it had

1:24:36

limited functionability in my opinion. Yeah. In my

1:24:38

opinion, it wasn't like now with the pen

1:24:40

and all the apps that they had, it's

1:24:43

fucking nuts. Really? It does everything. It's crazy.

1:24:45

It does with a bigger

1:24:47

screen, with a bigger screen and you can use a

1:24:49

stylus on it, but the bigger screen makes the difference

1:24:51

because like you could, I mean, you

1:24:53

can literally right now, I'm not kidding

1:24:55

you with an iPad. Um,

1:24:58

you could run a full television production, multi-cam

1:25:00

television production. You need cameras as well. That's

1:25:02

part, know how to use it. Sure.

1:25:06

Honestly, no, I disagree with

1:25:08

AI right now. If you got like, if

1:25:10

you got three cameras on smart tripods with like

1:25:12

tracking capability, I'm a fucking monkey could run a

1:25:14

television. I was listening to this guy on a

1:25:17

podcast. He said, I just spent all this money

1:25:19

on this stuff. I need someone to tell me

1:25:21

how to use it. Cause I just can't read

1:25:23

the instructions. I need someone to actually show me

1:25:25

how to do it. Um,

1:25:27

but so you switched to the

1:25:29

flip phone, which contributed to

1:25:32

the changing of the language with

1:25:34

a short forms. Yeah. LOLs.

1:25:37

It's like, uh, except a thing. There's no

1:25:39

one to step in and say, no, that's

1:25:41

improper language. Cause it's just communication. It's not,

1:25:43

do you use those when you text? Not

1:25:46

really. No, I don't. I only

1:25:49

use them because I'm a such

1:25:51

a terrible texter. It

1:25:53

takes me a long time to write things.

1:25:55

So I give out. Uh, people

1:25:58

smile with tears. Just

1:26:00

like oh, yeah, I dropped that one. Yeah emoticons.

1:26:02

Yeah, if that makes you feel my new favorite

1:26:04

thing is now I Know

1:26:07

that you can just hold on the

1:26:09

text and give it either a thumbs

1:26:11

up or a heart or I you

1:26:13

know Which is not even an emoji.

1:26:15

It's like just I love that

1:26:17

for you. Yeah. Yeah, that's great I don't know if I

1:26:19

told you guys this last week. This is interesting. I found

1:26:21

this out and it goes to that language thing You're talking

1:26:23

about Americans do

1:26:25

you know why they spell things differently

1:26:28

like favor flavor? Cuz they're

1:26:30

sure canceled. Is that why no, so

1:26:32

it's actually because Early

1:26:35

on I mean forever in

1:26:37

the British well, no, so the British used to

1:26:39

spell it canceled has two L Yeah, so they

1:26:41

were trying to go against the no it has

1:26:43

to do with advertising So advertising

1:26:45

in the States has always been per letter

1:26:49

So in the States they started

1:26:51

shortening words where they were like we can get

1:26:53

rid of the extra L and cancelled We can

1:26:55

get rid of the you in favor. We can

1:26:57

get rid of so stuff like that And then

1:26:59

it just like five cents cheaper. That's what I'm

1:27:01

saying And so it's stuck and now the American

1:27:04

spell stuff. However, they spell it. Isn't that interesting?

1:27:06

So like again, like you're talking about there is

1:27:08

a good chance that in the future a lot

1:27:12

of words are just condensed to like Acronyms

1:27:14

almost or sentences hear the thunder out

1:27:17

there. Come on. Yeah, not looking good

1:27:19

for my it's gonna be an asshole

1:27:21

wet t-shirt Don't be hater.

1:27:23

Yes Do

1:27:26

you hear what the water is lit

1:27:28

up like Christmas the woman goes to

1:27:30

do the obituary and she goes

1:27:32

yeah, I'd like to save as much money possible and He

1:27:36

goes, okay. What do you want to say

1:27:38

goes Lewis died? And he goes well man

1:27:40

with some five word minimums. He goes Lewis

1:27:42

died car for sale That's

1:27:48

classic, um Do

1:27:50

you guys think you can ride roller coasters? No,

1:27:53

yeah, I have yeah, well, I don't I

1:27:55

could I just have of course you Here's

1:27:59

the thing I Zero. The jolting is zero. No,

1:28:01

no, I can tell you for a fact, you

1:28:03

could both do like the big- I know I

1:28:05

could. No, no, no, just the big drop loop

1:28:08

ones you both would be fine doing. It's that

1:28:10

anything like you're saying the herky jerky ones will

1:28:12

make you pukey. We went, Mary and I went

1:28:14

to Wonderland like four years ago. We

1:28:17

did all the big ones, no problem. We went

1:28:19

on a smaller one that had like a lot

1:28:21

of this and a lot of like fucking

1:28:24

back and forths. And as soon as we

1:28:26

got off that one, I was like, I think I might puke.

1:28:28

But zero part of that seems fun to me anymore. You

1:28:31

roller coasters. Yeah, no, at all. Would

1:28:35

you go to the X and get on a

1:28:37

Gravitron? No, the Gravitron will make

1:28:39

me puke immediately. I hate the Gravitron. You

1:28:41

went on it. That's the one that spins

1:28:44

around. I remember being too young to get

1:28:46

on the Gravitron. Is that the Gravitron? No.

1:28:49

No, the terrible one at the X was the zipper. No,

1:28:54

the zipper. That thing was horrible.

1:28:58

It's nothing to look at. No, but

1:29:00

what it's doing is... But when you get there and

1:29:02

then the... We're going this way? No, you're not. You're

1:29:05

going that way. Each thing spins and then

1:29:07

the whole thing spins. It's just a recipe

1:29:09

for disaster. But I told you about my

1:29:11

thing with the roller coasters, right? I

1:29:13

don't know. I went to

1:29:15

Canada's Wonderland in... Toronto,

1:29:18

yeah. Toronto in grade six

1:29:21

with our band. That was

1:29:23

like why you joined band. Or Hopewell, grade

1:29:25

seven, I guess. So seven and eight, yeah. So

1:29:28

we went on the pirate ship. Yeah.

1:29:31

Okay. But it's not the

1:29:33

pirate ship. The pirate ship goes like this

1:29:35

and then stops up top, but you're not

1:29:37

upside down. I went on one

1:29:39

that... It was the pirate ship, but you go

1:29:42

upside down. So it stalls at the top and

1:29:44

everybody... So as they're

1:29:46

putting the safety

1:29:49

harnesses on everybody, you know, they come by

1:29:51

and check. And

1:29:54

they like push down to click it

1:29:56

to make sure that it sets. I

1:29:59

guess for whatever... reason, maybe

1:30:01

the guy did it and it didn't do it

1:30:04

or whatever. Yeah. So when

1:30:06

we got going,

1:30:09

I could feel the thing instead of

1:30:11

like clicking one more, it clicked one

1:30:13

less. So there was

1:30:15

now a little bit of room between my

1:30:17

thing, which I'm sure wasn't a big deal.

1:30:20

But in your head. In, but in my

1:30:22

head, I thought I was going to die.

1:30:24

So as we're upside down, I'm literally like

1:30:26

trying to defy gravity by pushing my butt

1:30:29

up into the seats to try and keep

1:30:31

myself in. And then finally I couldn't do

1:30:33

it anymore and I went and

1:30:35

I thought I was going to die. And then it just wasn't

1:30:38

a big deal. You know what I mean? But

1:30:40

ever since then I can't do anything where

1:30:43

it like goes

1:30:46

upside down like that. I don't mind

1:30:48

like the loop to loops.

1:30:50

Would you do the ejector chair? I did that

1:30:52

with my dad. No, it's so much where it

1:30:54

takes you to the top and then drops you.

1:30:56

No, it's the one where it like, so the

1:30:58

one I did was it's got like the two

1:31:00

giant poles and they're attached to like elastics. Oh,

1:31:02

yeah. No. And so you're like attached to a

1:31:04

hook on the ground. Yeah. And they go top.

1:31:07

Yeah. And let's go and you shoot the fuck

1:31:09

up. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was fun. I mean,

1:31:11

I would do it if you like put a

1:31:13

gun to my head, but I would you bungee

1:31:15

jump right now, like the great Canadian bungee. No,

1:31:17

I would never bungee jump. Not over water. No,

1:31:20

never. Over water. I would

1:31:22

rather. Hold on over

1:31:24

water. I would rather jump out of

1:31:26

an airplane than bungee jump. No,

1:31:29

you would not. I think I do. Yeah, I would rather

1:31:31

say it again. I'll say it again. Over

1:31:33

water. I

1:31:35

like that you think that at that force

1:31:37

coming down, the water is not going to

1:31:39

be a solid brick

1:31:42

wall. When you bungee

1:31:44

short of you not being attached to

1:31:46

anything, there's always going to be something

1:31:48

that like, there's going to be

1:31:50

some pull. So you're probably only falling like max

1:31:52

20, 30 feet into the

1:31:54

water. If you're coming down and it

1:31:58

breaks and. full speed

1:32:00

hitting the water is going to

1:32:02

be like, when are you going to full speed? When

1:32:05

are you going to full speed hit the water? If the bungee cord

1:32:07

breaks. If the bungee cord breaks. Yeah, but

1:32:09

again, if it breaks, you realize that like, like

1:32:12

if I hold a string right now and it's

1:32:14

got like, it's almost about to. Forget it breaks.

1:32:16

What if you just want connected? You're not following

1:32:18

as fast as you think. Thank you. If

1:32:20

you weren't connected properly, Matt. That's the only

1:32:22

one. If it breaks right at the top, that could happen.

1:32:24

But what are you saying? If it breaks, you're not. I

1:32:27

understand there's going to be resistance, but what if it's just

1:32:29

like they clipped you in badly? Just hear me out to

1:32:31

the bottom. You won't fly in a plane. So I have

1:32:33

a tough time believing that given the choice right now, like

1:32:36

Simon, we're going to give you a million dollars

1:32:38

to either go skydiving. So you have to jump

1:32:40

from again, like 10,000 feet, or

1:32:44

you can 150 foot bungee

1:32:46

jump just outside of Ottawa into a Corey.

1:32:49

Well, one of two things are going to happen

1:32:51

with the plane. Mm-hmm. Most

1:32:53

likely you're going to have to jump with somebody else. You're

1:32:55

going to be attached to them. So that's what I

1:32:57

would have to do. And that's

1:33:00

easier than making myself jump off

1:33:02

a bungee platform. Interesting.

1:33:04

At least somebody's physically

1:33:07

doing it. So you're going to do the gay tandem

1:33:09

jump over bungee jumping. I don't love it. I don't

1:33:11

want to do any of it, Matt. So in the

1:33:13

tandem jump, do you get attached face to face? Or

1:33:15

are you? Oh, wow.

1:33:18

That's a good look. Head to crotch. That's a good look.

1:33:20

I like that. Face to face. I like that. Head to

1:33:22

crotch. So when you're coming down to the ground, do you

1:33:24

get the weird upside down view? That's fucking sick. I

1:33:27

want to be the little spoon. Yeah. Just

1:33:30

normal little spoon. Go

1:33:32

ahead, Kamar. Kamar hates this. It's not about

1:33:34

him. If he hasn't done

1:33:36

the biz jokes or hating. I was waiting

1:33:38

to step in and say, I've never gone

1:33:41

bungee cord jumping. Bungee cord

1:33:43

jumping? Or just bungee jumping? Did you say

1:33:45

you had gone? You know what?

1:33:47

I haven't done bungee jumping. I did. Like I said,

1:33:50

I did the ejector chair. If you want to go, I'll go this summer.

1:33:52

You think the ejector chair is the same as the bungee chair? To the

1:33:54

great Canadian one? Let's do it. Let's do it.

1:33:57

Bucket list. I think that's a great idea. I think it's a

1:33:59

great idea. over the quarry. Yeah, I'm down. That's

1:34:01

deep. Are

1:34:03

you dipping or not? Is it optional?

1:34:05

Yeah. Cause they have control over

1:34:08

how much 10, yeah, I'm dipping too. Because

1:34:10

whatever I drive past there or I'm in

1:34:13

a car that's driving past there, I think

1:34:15

it's good luck if you see someone. Oh,

1:34:18

interesting. I like that. Jump, jump, I'd

1:34:20

not die. That's always a good, but

1:34:23

I think you guys should totally do that. I

1:34:25

wonder if you guys could jump down together holding

1:34:27

hands or something. Oh,

1:34:30

I'm the king of the world. Like synchro

1:34:32

bungee. Would you guys go to

1:34:37

the water park? Camelot or whatever

1:34:39

it's called? No, no, no.

1:34:43

I'd be much more likely to do a water

1:34:45

park than. Camelot. What's it called? It's called. Well,

1:34:47

there's Mallcascad. That's not the one you're talking about

1:34:50

though. You mean the big one. The big dog.

1:34:52

What the hell is it called? Camden

1:34:55

Yards. Why

1:34:59

can't I think of it either? This is tough. Oh my

1:35:01

God. Cause I said the wrong name. You know what's funny

1:35:03

right now? Pat Murray's listening to this podcast three days from

1:35:05

now and he's yelling it. You think it's a C obviously.

1:35:08

I don't know. You think it's a C cause of Cascad.

1:35:10

Yes, maybe you're right. No, no, hold on. It's something with

1:35:12

an E. Is

1:35:14

it? Yeah, it's like a

1:35:16

escapade or. No, I think you're

1:35:19

stuck on escapades. So jealous, but

1:35:21

oh, I had it. Joe

1:35:24

was talking about. Cypress

1:35:26

something. VR sandbox.

1:35:30

Yeah. Which I hope someone opens

1:35:32

up one of those. Cause that seems like

1:35:34

a new sort of thing you could do

1:35:36

as an attraction. I told you we've talked

1:35:38

about me going out of the escape room.

1:35:40

Would you want to play in one of

1:35:42

those giant sandboxes? You know, where you get

1:35:44

to operate the tractor and you go around

1:35:46

digging holes and dropping cars and starts

1:35:48

with a C. Calypso. Calypso.

1:35:51

Calypso. Calypso. Calypso.

1:35:53

Calypso. Calypso. Calypso. That's

1:35:55

weird. How is that? All you needed was me to say

1:35:57

it starts with a C. I do that all the time.

1:36:00

If I can't remember somebody's name, that's so

1:36:02

interesting. My mom taught me it. I do

1:36:04

the alphabet game. That's so funny. Sometimes it

1:36:06

really works. This is the Calypso. Cause

1:36:08

I told you it was right on the tip of

1:36:10

my tongue. I said, I said Cyprus. I wouldn't go

1:36:13

to Calypso. I don't know. I mean, I don't have

1:36:15

a Calypso body. Does like crowds. I

1:36:17

don't like crowds. But if we went on

1:36:19

like a day that wasn't, uh, I mean

1:36:21

the idea of now of like bathing in

1:36:23

other people's water doesn't really appeal to me

1:36:25

either. Cause

1:36:27

you know, there's the one where you, do you know,

1:36:29

there's the one where you go down a tube. Well,

1:36:32

it was getting real for a second. And then

1:36:34

it goes up. Yeah. Yeah. The

1:36:36

problem with Calypso is the stairs

1:36:38

are insane. Well, every, but

1:36:40

that's every water park. They should have

1:36:42

elevators. Uh, so he's here, um, to

1:36:45

do, uh, a nonfiction

1:36:47

book. He's

1:36:50

sitting high too. I don't know if you know,

1:36:53

he's been sitting high the whole fucking podcast. It's

1:36:55

a power move. I get it. They talked about

1:36:57

Tyler Perry trying to invest $800 million into a studio. And

1:37:01

he halted it based just on what happened

1:37:03

on Sora. The thing he's talking about,

1:37:06

like they're adding it to Adobe premiere. And

1:37:09

here's what it's crazy. It's actually crazy. I

1:37:11

wanted to mention this Adobe. Who

1:37:14

got famous off photographers. Like, you

1:37:16

know, Adobe, they make Photoshop Lightroom

1:37:18

premiere. Yeah. They have

1:37:20

a headquarters here in Ottawa. They literally made

1:37:23

their nut off photographers. If it weren't for

1:37:25

photographers paying them the 26 30, a hundred

1:37:27

a month, whatever

1:37:29

it is, cause they, you can't buy

1:37:31

Adobe. You have to pay them monthly. That's the

1:37:33

whole deal. They came out this

1:37:35

week with like this big ad campaign where they were

1:37:37

like, our new AI, you don't

1:37:39

even need photographers. And photographers

1:37:41

are like, are you guys fucking kidding

1:37:44

us? Like, is this for real? Like

1:37:46

we made your company. And now you're

1:37:48

saying literally like, Hey, guess what? Skip

1:37:50

the photographer. Just use the AI we've

1:37:52

created. That sounds about right. It doesn't

1:37:54

it? Yeah. Ultimate capitalism. That

1:37:57

sounds about right. Did

1:37:59

I tell you guys I went to the. escape room? Yeah,

1:38:01

last week. Yeah. Would it be cool if they

1:38:03

have one where like a water may break so

1:38:05

the person is going, this is not supposed to

1:38:07

happen. I'm sorry. You

1:38:11

have to sign in NDA. You think

1:38:13

you're dying? Come on. You know what?

1:38:15

Come on. You don't have a family. We're using you as a

1:38:17

raft. Oddly

1:38:20

enough, there's a problem with that. We had a room where

1:38:24

you would act like you were locking them up. And

1:38:27

then you'd be like, Oh, man, something happened. And

1:38:30

then you'd walk out and like slam the door. But

1:38:32

you had started the timer like a second before you

1:38:34

slammed the door. I can't tell

1:38:36

you how many groups just waiting for you to

1:38:38

stand around for 10 or 15 minutes. Looking

1:38:41

at their watches like this, this schmoe's not coming back

1:38:43

on you because you didn't sell it. Oh,

1:38:47

come on. That was the other thing I want to say. I don't know

1:38:49

if you've seen this they have they have water parks now VR water parks.

1:38:52

Well, you just know, no, you're actually going

1:38:54

it's you're in it's weird. You're

1:38:56

in a tube with water. But you

1:38:58

put on this headset. And like

1:39:00

the visuals are insane. Like you're in space in one

1:39:03

of them. Or like, you're going

1:39:05

down and you're actually going down like one

1:39:07

of them is like Donkey Kong. You're on

1:39:09

the look at when you're in a to

1:39:11

there are escape rooms. Like I think there's

1:39:13

one in the city. Actually, I know there's

1:39:15

one in the city, where it's like multiple

1:39:17

levels. So you like climb a ladder because

1:39:19

the zombies have come down on the main

1:39:21

level and you have to get up through

1:39:23

the solve all the problems just to add

1:39:26

a little more to the whole

1:39:28

thing. That sounds interesting. I

1:39:30

just I didn't want to ask for a

1:39:33

clue and he's gonna dance

1:39:39

dance revolution hilarious. I

1:39:41

don't see it much. But I whenever you go to

1:39:43

a movie, there was some guy who was the master

1:39:45

of the desk. He's not some guy. No, no, I

1:39:47

saw one of my pointails. Don't turn

1:39:49

this into a race thing. You have never seen the

1:39:52

people who are just masters. Oh, no, I have. I

1:39:54

just why are you talking about dance dance where they

1:39:56

were talking about it. And then Joe's how about how

1:39:58

this is great to keep him in Jim Carr. I'm

1:40:01

in Jack. I'm sure his friends call him

1:40:03

Jim. No,

1:40:05

that's not even the right one, is it? Jack

1:40:08

and Jim? I'm a Jack. Is

1:40:10

that right? Is Jack Jim? No,

1:40:13

Jim is James. Jim is James. Or Jack.

1:40:16

Or Jack. No. I

1:40:18

don't think so. I think it's just James. But what

1:40:20

is Jack then? Jack. Jack has

1:40:22

no... No. No. I

1:40:25

don't believe that. It's not like Dick.

1:40:27

They all did. Dick and Richard. I

1:40:30

just said that. Jack and James. No,

1:40:32

it's Jim and James. Bob

1:40:35

and Robert. That's another one. Yeah.

1:40:39

Bobbert. Bobby! Go

1:40:41

ahead. Come on. I'm so sorry.

1:40:43

Joe was proposing that the muse might

1:40:45

be aliens sending ideas. And

1:40:49

there's nowhere clear about the muse

1:40:51

and it's probably unintentional with like

1:40:54

songs because one of the

1:40:56

biggest things is like heartbreak. So someone has to

1:40:58

fuck someone over for someone to be in

1:41:00

a position to write the words of that

1:41:03

feeling. I

1:41:05

think maybe Matt has talked about this before,

1:41:07

but it would make sense if the aliens

1:41:09

were the AI. And

1:41:12

it was the way it gets us

1:41:14

to accept it is

1:41:17

to first become things like social media

1:41:19

and all these great gadgets

1:41:22

just about it kind of being the idea. You

1:41:24

know what I mean? I

1:41:26

don't think it was on this one, but they talked about being

1:41:29

trapped. Some aliens

1:41:31

are here trapped. I mean, everyone

1:41:33

was talking about last week that aliens are

1:41:35

among us trapped because they can't get off

1:41:37

the planet and they are sending

1:41:40

out clues and whatever. And it's just this is

1:41:42

a long process to get these guys to do

1:41:44

what we need to get out of here. Well,

1:41:47

that's not, you know what? That would be a great plot for like

1:41:49

a comedy where like some

1:41:51

alien comes down, wasn't doing well back

1:41:53

home, came down, crashed.

1:41:56

I was like, oh no,

1:41:58

I can't get home. Realize like these people. or

1:42:00

dumb as shit. Like I could just be the best

1:42:02

billionaire. Like it could

1:42:04

be Elon Musk. Like I have a weird body.

1:42:06

I was just going to say, you just described

1:42:08

Elon Musk. Like I have a weird body, but

1:42:10

like I'm just going to fuck earth chicks and

1:42:12

hang out and smoke weed. Sounds like the Anunnaki.

1:42:15

Because people forget. It's like our history. It's been

1:42:17

happening since the beginning of time. I'm sorry, Kumar.

1:42:19

People forget Superman's an alien. Yeah.

1:42:21

An alien who was great at everything. There

1:42:23

was nothing that Superman couldn't do. I don't

1:42:25

know if you guys read the comics. He

1:42:29

was just good at everything. He was just good at everything. I assume,

1:42:31

yeah. But like, are you guys watching

1:42:33

the boys new season? No.

1:42:35

There's a part of it where he

1:42:38

makes, you know, what's his name? The

1:42:40

Superman character? Homelander.

1:42:42

Homelander. He like makes some

1:42:44

guy decide either play me

1:42:47

in this contest or just

1:42:49

kill yourself, you know? And the guy

1:42:51

just ends up killing himself. Spoiler alert.

1:42:54

And then Homelander does

1:42:56

the whatever. I wasn't really watching like a

1:42:58

ring toss or something and he misses and

1:43:01

he's like, Oh, he should have played

1:43:03

against me. Meaning that like

1:43:05

he wasn't great at everything. But Superman was

1:43:07

great at everything. Archery fucking, he could run

1:43:09

the best. He could play all the sports.

1:43:12

Because of the radiation of our son, apparently.

1:43:15

Was it the second one where the bad guys are

1:43:17

trapped in the dimensional

1:43:19

pain that just walls? That was

1:43:21

number three, I think. Number

1:43:24

three. Number three or four. Which one

1:43:26

was with Richard Pryor? Two. Would Superman

1:43:28

help foreigners or is he just like

1:43:30

US based? Well, this is it. He's

1:43:32

an alien. He's not even US based.

1:43:34

It depends on. No, he's US based.

1:43:36

It depends on the storyline. I think

1:43:39

in the old ones he would help

1:43:41