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1:00

Welcome to the Bloody Disgusting

1:02

Network! The

1:05

ensuing. Show change, transform

1:08

and otherwise alter you.

1:14

Good luck. My

1:20

friendship to. Lose

1:23

both men with any one of

1:25

you didn't wanna. Do

1:27

to. Name.

1:44

The whole constant listeners a dream did

1:46

come to me. Rachel Reeves and the

1:48

Night in King did show all of

1:50

this to me. A time

1:52

of tribulation has come. a test is

1:54

that Hand. The. Final Test.

1:57

In the dream Uncle Stevie did come.

2:00

Me and he was carrying a blu

2:02

ray. It was Nineteen Eighty Four's Children

2:04

of The Corn. And I

2:06

did fall in my knees in terror. in

2:09

I hid my eyes less the corning of

2:11

the film Strike Me Dead and he has

2:13

told me all that has since happens. He

2:16

told me that this would be

2:18

a long watch, so get cozy

2:20

and strap him because his journey

2:22

behind the Rose will be a

2:24

thorough one. So make that

2:26

popcorn and spill the butter all over it.

2:29

But. Let not your preconceptions pollute

2:31

the listen cost them instead

2:33

upon your letterbox reviews. And

2:36

thankfully the King of Horror has not

2:38

left me to harvest these thoughts alone.

2:41

He. Who walks behind the rose did

2:43

say I will send Outlander The monks

2:45

do. A. Man. And a

2:47

woman. And another woman. And

2:49

these outland or maybe unbelievers and profane

2:51

years of the Holy. Or heck, maybe

2:53

their fans. Only. Time will

2:56

tell. So let's get on

2:58

with it, shall we? As I see

3:00

one said Outlander approaching. Jan,

3:02

introduce yourself and tell us about the

3:04

first time you walks behind the rows

3:06

of Nineteen Eighty Four's children. Of the

3:08

corn. Read. Sales.

3:15

Of as where is that he receives

3:18

behind the rose that told you all

3:20

of that he as a as leave

3:22

you Steve Wright spine. The Rosa. Assists

3:25

Hello This is James Who, the Core and

3:27

Adam or above the Age of Favor cause

3:29

I'm well above that age and and I

3:32

don't remember the first time I watched As

3:34

but I remember the first time I was

3:36

aware of this movie and I was the

3:39

first time I was aware of Stephen King

3:41

at all. Know. That a slumber

3:43

party and I found the V H and

3:45

it just it's like that red background with

3:47

the corn and like this a goal you

3:49

known as so yeah Freebie and I found

3:51

that and I sound pet cemetery and I

3:53

was like going around the slumber party could

3:55

ruin somebody's elses house and was trying to

3:57

get my friends to watch this with me.

4:00

And nobody would. Everybody was too

4:02

afraid. and then I remember finally

4:04

convincing them to watch the movie

4:06

and saying that at something I

4:08

still see a by Molokai as

4:10

hot and having all of my

4:12

friends turned to me and he

4:14

like that. Guess so? Yeah, that's

4:16

my experience with this movie with

4:19

walking behind the rose, thirsting behind

4:21

the rose if you will. Okay,

4:23

yeah, we're definitely going out as discussed. The

4:26

Malik i think smiling my run across

4:28

on for nigga hit me up sick

4:30

of it has addressed that arm. But

4:32

for now of. It's okay. For next up we

4:34

have a true dark tower. Disciples Dan say

4:37

hi and enlighten us. Your.

4:39

First taste of the corn. Hi

4:41

this is Dan. Looks like some

4:43

sort of primitive full guards leader

4:45

and I also watch this at

4:48

a slumber party. It was a

4:50

double feature of doesn't. On

4:53

English. Ninety maybe for over ten years

4:55

old. And I yeah the posts are

4:57

always jumped out of me to his hundred muslim

4:59

like that there will be blood, there's a red

5:01

one of the as this post has really iconic

5:03

is almost scarier than the movies. Yeah. We'll.

5:06

Get into his yes, Yup. Are

5:08

A and last but not least on I say

5:10

hello and tell us about the first time. That. You

5:13

experience this particular adult nightmare. Ah,

5:16

this is annette act and real

5:18

creepy coffee. Ah and I remember

5:20

when I first saw this movie

5:23

but I'm probably was pretty young

5:25

and I may have even been

5:27

before. I really knew Stephen King.

5:30

And and. But I'm

5:32

her being terrified. I'm I found this

5:34

movie prefer. Like. Absolutely the

5:37

idea of it terrifying and just

5:39

if you'd seen in it's been

5:41

as since memory throughout like this:

5:43

oh that's a scary movie watching

5:46

it for you are a lake

5:48

I must have. Been really. I

5:50

mean he suffered. I

5:53

probably shouldn't have let me watch this movie.

5:55

It's funny that it scared me so much

5:57

because it's so clear watching it now. No

6:00

children were harmed in the making of

6:02

this movie. I have a very, very

6:04

clear. But

6:07

it's funny. I also like remember this being

6:09

really terrifying I think I saw when I

6:11

was like in middle school or something but

6:13

must have been similarly like a younger age

6:15

because then watching it you know years later

6:17

was like why. Why

6:20

is that why it was the scary

6:22

but also like I grew up in

6:24

our in our talks about like a

6:26

more rural community aware corn was very

6:28

prevalent and so that was like a

6:31

very real. Possibility

6:33

I doesn't. You know cause let

6:35

wanting to school or like is a North

6:37

Korean everywhere as I definitely always looked at

6:39

those cornfield sideways because it was like a

6:41

no thank you for the I'd definitely touched

6:44

a nerve in that regard. but yeah was

6:46

not as scary as I remember as I

6:48

think that if we made cornfield scary for

6:50

me yeah I remember being rigid like I

6:52

don't want to own currency. yeah yeah I

6:54

think image that is scary for me is

6:57

like I am not. They're not like worn

6:59

down here we have more like tobacco itself

7:01

that there's a lotta like were in the

7:03

bible belt and as I think as a

7:05

child as like learn something like this political

7:07

like how far away as this from the

7:10

turret as I'm going to with you tomorrow

7:12

morning on the set and morning of our

7:14

slumber party. Yeah.

7:18

All well you guys this is a

7:20

long watch episode because this film is

7:22

celebrating and anniversary so we're gonna dig

7:24

into it all at we are going

7:27

to plant the corn growing the corner

7:29

we're going to harvest acorn. People.

7:32

Are going to be so sick of

7:34

porn plans and more in part by

7:36

the time are we gonna harvest the

7:38

current into gasohol? Yes! Gas. A whole

7:40

new system. Wait what? it? What kind

7:42

of alcohol does he make from corn?

7:44

corn? Actor: But it

7:46

or make whiskey are bluish. Are

7:48

you? I don't. I love the

7:51

cat. Yes, like see silent. Kept.

7:53

Him more disaster be something. I. Will

7:58

make will come up with something. Okay,

8:00

so let's just I write endless get

8:02

into our. First. Section here at

8:04

which we are calling. well not

8:06

we. It is called ah The

8:09

Dairy Public Libraries. My salary is

8:11

his last. Album

8:14

In a carrot you through

8:16

for a little boy.on. Her

8:30

life. Okay,

8:38

signed The Dairy Public Library. This is where we're

8:40

going to discuss the background. The production

8:42

history or how this beautiful motion

8:44

picture came to be. And arm

8:47

and six. You're unaware and are

8:49

listening to this. A children, The

8:51

corn. The. Movie is an eighty

8:53

eighty four supernatural film about a

8:56

young couple that becomes trapped in

8:58

a remote town. Gatland Nebraska where

9:00

dangerous religious cult of children believes

9:02

that everyone over the age of

9:04

nineteen or eight changes ah must

9:06

be killed to appease some mysterious

9:09

evil that lurks in the Cornfields.

9:12

And the story is. Based upon of

9:14

course Stephen King's. Nineteen

9:16

Seventy Seven short story of the

9:18

same name, which was first published

9:20

in the March issue of Penthouse.

9:23

Class. Is and then later and

9:25

collected in Kings Nineteen Seventy Eight

9:27

Collection Night Shift I've heard of

9:30

and for the Earth. Ah not

9:32

take their to yes hot say

9:34

guys start now Spicy and and

9:36

okay so I did not realize

9:38

this but there is a sort

9:40

them based on this that came

9:43

out just like five years after.

9:45

Night Shift with published that is

9:47

called Disciples of the Crow. Have

9:49

any of you guys seen this

9:51

short film? Had. Not heard

9:54

of it. I will say I am now

9:56

a disciple of the crow after thing those

9:58

cars guard and. As the new. We're

10:00

getting dominion take a look at you.

10:03

And. I are probably the only ones but

10:05

I will the and by your side.

10:09

I would like the whole movies on you

10:11

tube from as long as yeah man it's

10:13

a did he makes humans nineteen actually. And

10:15

when is it from. Ah,

10:18

D Three Yeah though before the movie very

10:20

close I came out. I think it was

10:22

probably screens I think I saw somewhere at

10:25

that. you know, the short film the King

10:27

a short film festival and so I gotta

10:29

check it out. I was meaning clue and

10:31

didn't get to at by. I love that

10:33

Something so quickly caught on to the story

10:36

because you can see why we were talking

10:38

earlier about how a lot of us we

10:40

read the story. And. It's

10:42

very. Good is very creepy.

10:45

It's very different. Was a

10:47

very early him very early them that

10:49

the female. Lead

10:52

is super stuff to ask

10:54

me to stop drinking tan.

10:57

Yeah, the characters are not the same as

10:59

we get in the film on, but there

11:02

are some things I think work a lot

11:04

better. and so it's I mean perfect fodder

11:06

for a film. Perfect fodder. I'm so you

11:08

can see why somebody. Would immediately make

11:11

a short film and then somebody would

11:13

snap up the rights of. Those.

11:15

People were actually it was

11:17

how Road Studios they snapped

11:20

up the film rights for.

11:22

That's because they also saw

11:24

the potential in that story

11:26

and King originally wrote the

11:28

screenplay. For this you. Guys his

11:30

he wrote the original screenplay was focused

11:32

much more on the characters of Burton

11:34

Vicky I'm and depicted more the history

11:37

of like the Actual Uprising of the

11:39

Children and Gatlin and also featured a

11:41

lot more of Burton Vicky sightings and

11:43

a really amped up and that tension

11:46

between them which we see in the

11:48

sort sort of makes sense. why. King

11:50

would of course bring that into the movie as well.

11:53

However, ultimately the How Roach

11:56

execs did not really like

11:58

Kings scheme. And

12:01

decided to have George

12:03

Goldsmith rewrite it. George.

12:06

Goldsmith. Okay, so. His

12:09

version featured. Ah,

12:12

I'm some more violence and a more

12:14

conventional. Narrative structure. And.

12:17

King was, you know, not

12:19

happy. About this at the

12:21

time. Understandably so. I.

12:23

Have a quote from Goldsmith. He had

12:25

a phone call with Stephen King about

12:28

this, about the rewrite process and kind

12:30

of the differences between the scripts and.

12:34

He had the story editor on the phone

12:36

with them so that he was not alone.

12:39

And. So I'm hoping genuine to

12:41

read this quote from Goldsmith about

12:43

this conversation. Yes, And

12:45

that the story editor like my ideas

12:47

that Stephen King with the Than King

12:49

and so we had a conference call

12:52

the three of us and with Stephen

12:54

opened up by informing me I did

12:56

not understand horror and I countered that

12:58

he did not understand cinema har and

13:00

six and are internalize Just like his

13:03

script, cinema is external visual, auditory and

13:05

a more sensory experience. Of

13:07

angle so I went over well. I'm sure.

13:09

Yeah, yeah. Afraid my dad would

13:11

never. Was

13:14

receiving T or Stephen Jay or

13:16

exactly yeah, You and you don't

13:18

understand. Your world is internalized. It's

13:20

like Iii and he's by yes

13:22

eating. Oh, I'm just here. Vague

13:24

I would imagine. And you don't

13:27

like Goldsmith as know what? He's

13:29

not William Goldman riot likely to

13:31

use the Table at Goldsmiths. You've

13:33

made some movies, but I mean

13:35

Blue Monkey. Source: Live like you would

13:37

get his credits and likes no shade. Not

13:39

quite. You. Know it's another Ireland.

13:41

The signing? You know, yeah. like take

13:43

his words. With a grain of salt and

13:45

so I guess. That even. Given

13:48

that, I guess I'm curious. If you

13:50

guys think that Goldsmith has a point

13:52

here, you know I'll a king. Had

13:54

obviously an incredible run of films up

13:56

to this. He wasn't a screenwriter. And

13:59

so. Are you. I just want to feel. Your

14:01

thoughts on this quo and whether or not

14:03

Goldsmith was completely just out of pocket or

14:05

if like well as see what you're saying

14:07

but also it Stephen King. I

14:10

do not think he was out of

14:12

pocket. I think he has a point

14:14

here and you know I am on

14:16

record as not only thinking is the

14:18

greatest at adapting his own stories Am

14:20

I saying that there is a lot

14:22

internally going on in the story which

14:24

is part of what makes it such

14:26

a great story By I think that

14:28

what he did you this story for

14:30

the script and screenplay is also wrong

14:32

and I think it happened at the

14:34

height of the slasher crude or like

14:37

right when slashers were really starting to

14:39

gain allow Team. And I think

14:41

he was thinking we gotta have violence

14:43

up for out We gotta has continual

14:45

body count and that's not what the

14:47

story is and I think. I.

14:49

Would love. Or

14:51

as like I don't want to say i one

14:53

and a to for version or an age when

14:55

he murmurs him but I would love like a

14:57

modern adaptation of i have what the actual story

14:59

is in and yeah. I. I

15:02

would love it. And a twenty four. Version.

15:04

Of it And actually I mean it, but

15:06

authors are thinking so He just had the

15:08

shining. Made by Ah.

15:12

You know give i'm afraid being completely

15:14

different from his yeah yeah and also

15:16

an incoming that as and getting but

15:19

tell by two different very different filmmakers

15:21

owner you don't know what you're. Doing

15:23

see him and he added a set.

15:26

Up. A sort of one thing for

15:28

Kubrick to say that, and another thing

15:30

for. William. Golding.

15:33

Lord all the I I. I

15:37

think that. If. You

15:40

yes like king is not. A. Great

15:42

screenwriter to we all know. That.

15:45

Ah, but. Did. What

15:47

they trot but the way that is is adapted doesn't

15:50

take. What is good? In right?

15:52

And the only thing is really hasn't

15:54

caught me like it's It's an interesting

15:56

exercise and how you can take. All.

15:59

Of the pieces, That something? Can

16:01

be true to them and then it has nothing.

16:03

It feel nothing like. The original me

16:05

I like this is not creepy

16:08

at all. that's what that's what

16:10

the the short. Story is is.

16:13

Creeps. I like makes

16:15

you look behind years in our shoulder.

16:17

Like it. It just has this all atmospherics

16:19

and then also I actually think as much

16:21

as I do you think it's a

16:23

relic of the please Help Me Stop Drinking

16:26

Tabitha era of. Of kings

16:28

My that relationship is really.

16:31

Real. Ah now and

16:33

the tension between. Them is is part

16:35

of what makes the story. It's it's

16:37

it's It's a sorcery about marriage Snowden.

16:39

And it's not about children. Riot?

16:41

Yeah. And then of course, like that, feet

16:43

flow right? Well. And I

16:45

think that's part of what makes it more

16:48

horrifying to is because if they weren't fighting

16:50

they would have seen all the signs and

16:52

they would have last. And so it it

16:54

becomes like the destruction of their marriage or

16:57

they're fighting is what causes their doom. You

16:59

know they just happened to stumble into a

17:01

place that like really his ass or mates

17:03

this argument in the worst possible way. And.

17:06

So it's been awhile since I read the short story,

17:08

but. Do. They take such a

17:11

long time getting to Gatland as I was looking

17:13

at the clock and be don't actually step out

17:15

into like forty four minutes into the film which

17:17

is kind of an odd choice to be like

17:19

almost halfway through before your. Main

17:21

characters even arrived on scene armed to

17:24

do the is that drive prolonged in

17:26

the short story as well. In

17:29

our story is this like they are. They

17:31

run over the kid. Everything happens except for

17:33

there's no. There's no, there's no Sarge. Oh

17:36

yeah I still I lack of no

17:38

foreign measure horned. Owl never can see

17:40

that that's ever us yet know

17:42

like they are. You know that.

17:45

There's no ghastly she gathers

17:47

sarge, and it's just straight

17:49

from the. Run. Indicate over

17:51

to or not run, aim at whatever

17:54

and to getting to the center of

17:56

the town and. That.

18:00

Drink green like your I'm looking at my

18:02

page count and like the story and my

18:04

version starts on page two fifty and it'll

18:06

get a got until two fifty nine which

18:08

the stories twenty pages so okay but I

18:10

way it does take about half way for

18:12

them to get actually get their yeah and

18:14

maybe a ship is it feel they taste

18:16

the sake of on your fears we have

18:18

a few pages of a set up of

18:20

them to sorry of them just fighting with

18:22

each other. Yeah yeah and then they had

18:24

a good idea and in a hit the

18:26

kid and then they sort of have the

18:28

discovery of a it in. A way I feel like.

18:31

It. Doesn't. You're. Right? That doesn't make.

18:33

Sense in the movie. Like. In the

18:35

scherzer yes I feel like you're to brag doing.

18:37

The. Outlet, but also, there's less time. And

18:39

Gatland, It's just. it's just. it's a compact.

18:43

Story. With very little resolution, very little

18:45

explanation which is. What? Makes it

18:47

creepier. get trying to explain everything.

18:51

It. Doesn't make that. Does it make

18:53

this movie scarier? knowing like why

18:55

stuff is happening actually. Year.

18:57

To track for at yeah think. Also just

19:00

like the tone of the ending I think

19:02

is. So different. Vastly different from

19:04

you know, the short story and

19:06

I think that that it like

19:08

in the story. That's partially what

19:10

makes it so scary. I mean

19:12

yeah, Vicki is mounted, her eyes

19:14

are removed and stuff with corn

19:16

remnants. And. It's

19:19

like as such so visceral image that

19:21

we I mean it's in the movie,

19:24

It's great. Okay not great but

19:26

you know what I mean. like seeing Linda

19:28

Hamilton up there like iconic image of of

19:30

seeing that but it's the fact that they

19:32

leave in there is like this like hope

19:34

moment like oh we can adopt these kids

19:36

They come back to the race you know

19:38

again very. Subtle any and just kind

19:41

of undercuts everything else that had

19:43

preceded that I feel like and.

19:45

Mode mommy like but top like. The ending

19:47

of it is just. What?

19:50

Makes it that way less scary for me.

19:52

Yeah yeah I do think it's funny when

19:54

they've been to that kid in the car.

19:56

but sinicize. I think it's funny because it's

19:58

one of the many places where they are

20:01

very care not to actually hurt the child

20:03

who yes yeah like we all know you

20:05

punched like it a movie don't So it

20:07

i mean they've I'm sure they didn't actually

20:10

bunch of child but no no no an

20:12

enemy. I target little bit about that children

20:14

in general because that is something that was

20:16

a concern and some of those kids were

20:18

local. And so the and will knock a

20:20

little bit about that in a second. Ah, At.

20:24

Okay, so there's as other some. Know about

20:26

the film that during

20:28

the research I was

20:30

reading and. I

20:33

just it was one of those things where

20:35

you know when you dig into the background

20:37

in the production history, you're like why it's

20:39

just something I never. Thought. Of.

20:42

About this movie Something I never

20:44

even crossed my mind for a

20:47

second arm and that was about

20:49

kind of via the the metaphor.

20:51

Of what Children of the Corn was to

20:53

a goldsmith when he was writing the script.

20:56

And so after the some came

20:58

out. Ah I'm and I believe

21:00

this was taken from a book

21:03

where he was. Goldsmith was interviewed

21:05

and he was saying that much

21:07

of the story was a metaphor

21:09

for the Iranian revolution with the

21:12

takeover of the town by. Zealots

21:14

acting for an evil God was based

21:17

on the Ayatollah Khamenei and his Revolutionary

21:19

Guard taking over Iran and how Burton

21:21

Vicky or Became and that from. A

21:23

got had he says, where's the

21:25

analogy analogous in l analogous. To

21:28

The American Hostages and Goldsmith was

21:30

using a horror film to expose.

21:32

The dangers and evils

21:34

of religious fundamentalism? Something

21:36

few critics and myself

21:38

recognized. Okay, what do we think

21:41

of this? We actually soothe influence on

21:43

the screen. Was this metaphor at all

21:45

successful? Because I. Never made the connection

21:47

between the two and I don't know that

21:49

you. I mean. It's

21:51

King Hates Sundays and General Right Leg. This

21:54

is what a dyke I'm when he says

21:56

for to cater. Cinemas.

21:58

On the radio. King

22:01

Love seizing. Love.

22:03

Having like that jelko christians say

22:05

the word for Decatur I probably

22:07

heard more King scripted. Evangelize,

22:10

Eventually goals either. Jealousy that that I

22:12

have heard any event helical in percent

22:15

say it right? Moon? Yeah, I so

22:17

I don't think it's too hard to

22:19

take a story that's about religious fundamentalism

22:21

in America and be like and what

22:24

I'm doing here. Is. Saying religious

22:26

fundamentalism is bad. Own room,

22:28

where to. See ssssss Had

22:31

our. Savior. Know

22:33

like he really have is what he's done is

22:35

like. Very. Astutely recognize

22:38

that extremism is bad and

22:40

like. I guess it's funny to

22:42

take it is to me this is. I don't.

22:46

I. Don't know what to do with this Beyond saying

22:48

like. Why? Why

22:50

he would be more interesting if he

22:52

had said. I'm. Taking

22:54

this. Short. Stories about American

22:56

religious fundamentalism and in my head.

22:59

I'm. Also seeing it is fun middle of them elsewhere

23:01

but to sort of this is he saying like. That

23:03

wasn't there. Before. You know

23:06

exactly that's that's I think is interesting cause

23:08

I always read it's like oh this is

23:10

Kings Wicker Man Ray Liotta I what this

23:12

era and and seems like full more but

23:15

I mean and and Iranian revolution I'm kind

23:17

of intimate yards and on his can write

23:19

it's like yeah you can piece together almost

23:22

any kind of fundamentals thing with the store

23:24

his name like maggi pieces exactly but even

23:26

like each Jim Jones or something you'd just

23:28

have to know they represent the Americans are

23:31

the congressman, others it doesn't taste as on

23:33

so many different examples. Of as a does not have

23:35

to be. This. But you know, at

23:37

what am I in the back of a guy's mind

23:39

if honestly, like with Hollywood they really got been taken

23:41

on this idea of like. And. That's

23:44

a others kind of reminds you that but doesn't

23:46

really mean them. You know this movie array of

23:48

our one for one take on the a Revolution.

23:50

Yeah. And absolutely do think that

23:52

it is folklore and if you watch failure

23:55

it's American folklore. And if you watch Woodlands

23:57

dark and Days the which to the documentary

23:59

on So. For she name's This and

24:01

pet Cemetery as examples of American

24:03

folklore. I think we can make the

24:06

argument that King himself is an element

24:08

of American folklore. I'm but yeah,

24:10

I agree. I think that this

24:12

just happened to be the most recent

24:14

conflict He and So this is.

24:17

What he's kind of framing it with I never

24:19

in a million years would have put those together

24:21

to that you a being born like a couple

24:23

years around or after that happened. It's not one

24:25

that jumps right to my mind but I do

24:27

think is interesting and this is one of the

24:29

difference is that we didn't talk about. And.

24:32

Is that the movie starts with us

24:34

actually seeing the uprising. We see them

24:37

out the for we see the blood,

24:39

we see the violence. The story makes

24:41

a couple of mentions as Vietnam which

24:43

I think a get was one of

24:46

the first time that Americans had actually

24:48

seen things happen on screen and kings

24:50

are not on screen but like actually

24:52

seen things that we have been reading

24:55

about and and king story like they

24:57

just wander into this desolate land that

24:59

has been destroyed by war of fundamentalist.

25:01

War and this tiny little towns. But

25:03

they don't understand why. They just know

25:06

that everything is. Broken. Everything is

25:08

bad and we have to figure out

25:10

why am and I mean it's called

25:12

children of the Corn So like I

25:14

think going into the story kind of

25:16

have an inkling by a could be

25:18

that like the it's a ghost town

25:20

they picked up and moved because the

25:22

corn did go dry and it's not

25:24

until we start to see these children

25:27

swarming Vicky's car in the story that

25:29

we know what's happening. but here in

25:31

the movie we know immediately it's these

25:33

children am it out as hot red

25:35

haired who swing in our hand. Lessons

25:37

and that is what is Courses the

25:40

story of bucket sites I keep under

25:42

cutting all my push the I just

25:44

love how it's just always a hot

25:46

like far as like a minute a

25:49

bay of a while ago. Is

25:52

playing pinball look and so find

25:54

out what it is it's at

25:56

him all image that our introduced

25:58

a legend I wasn't. They are some

26:00

voiceover narration. oh of who's the care is

26:02

that the yellow? You know why area like

26:05

didn't stick. I thought I had this movie

26:07

but I also think and we should mention

26:09

now maybe there's been so many versions of

26:11

this movie made with sequels. Ah my god

26:13

my minor to confuse my when was that

26:15

the one was at once is actually kind

26:17

of a pallet cleanser to just watched. The.

26:20

First movie, straightforward and not think about the other

26:22

ones. Yeah, yeah, actually read a

26:24

thing for Bloody Disgusting about that the

26:27

most bizarre things that happen in each

26:29

of those movies. So if you like

26:31

some fun. Yeah. I have

26:33

this quote from can kind of about this.

26:35

Because yet, Total of the Court has more

26:37

sequels than any other King Property is

26:39

so weird, so he said. and this is

26:42

in two thousand and nine, so not super

26:44

he said. But you know, way after that

26:46

came out, he said Children Are the

26:48

Corn has generated more awful sequels than any

26:51

other story. And my oeuvre sister's Children of

26:53

the Corn two, Three and four. At least

26:55

possibly more. I eventually lost counts. if my

26:57

internet connection burnt down as I write

26:59

s, I'd check and see if there wasn't

27:02

even a Children of the Corn in space.

27:04

I almost think there was. The

27:06

only. One I was really rooting for

27:08

was Children of the Corn meal. Leopard

27:11

on A wanted to hear that little

27:13

left kind guys shouting give me Back

27:15

and Me Corn and his cute little.

27:17

Irish Access. Also,

27:20

since then he's also said how

27:23

he wants children of the Corn

27:25

vs. Predator. Which.

27:28

I I don't know. it's him. I don't He. Has

27:30

on twitter. He said that he. Thinks

27:32

that sudden of the Corn vs Predator

27:34

would be a good films, so it

27:36

remains elusive physically. Not

27:38

only been a Navy Seals yeah said

27:41

I knew you're by. It doesn't exist.

27:43

Yet so well. As

27:46

if another prominent movie that I guess for

27:48

discouraging word. Were. Jumping and with other

27:50

problems are a bit. That.

27:52

There is it's there is a he who was

27:55

behind the rose. Is that the scary thing? or

27:57

is the kids the scary thing? Re

27:59

re. Yeah do.

28:01

It and human food. So who would predator be

28:03

going up against? To be credit going up against

28:05

the kids are would be going up against the

28:08

he who rock behind the Rose which I had

28:10

my opinion in this movie. He would have been

28:12

so much better to just not have that to

28:14

have it just be creepy kids doing the bidding

28:17

of something. That we don't. Know.

28:19

Understand see but that layer them.

28:21

The groundhog. run and play. Soccer

28:24

for us is still get it was

28:26

more caddy shack them from. Yes yes

28:28

y'all I have a pitch for

28:30

a predator Meet solar and of

28:32

the coroner said we've got new

28:34

Are you know our new predator

28:36

kind of spin off direction is

28:38

these analysts are predators just jump

28:40

in. May be the predator comes

28:42

down in present day corn. Now

28:44

we just call it like harvest

28:46

or something and he's got like

28:48

are know what kind of predator

28:50

would beat but he starts to

28:52

pick off the children and then

28:54

out of the shadows comes Malik

28:56

guy who did not sacrifice. Himself in

28:59

the courts. He's now a grown up

29:01

like Jason and he takes on the

29:03

Predator with his corn power. There.

29:05

Were go up at they'll say

29:08

that. Make. It far as

29:10

three that five stars. Here's a

29:12

million dollars. I'm also what if

29:14

it was children of the corn

29:16

vs. corn with a k. Ups

29:19

and other. Of

29:21

that they are. There is your million

29:23

dollar idea of bans on or whatever.

29:26

Hills enough The Chord with a k.

29:28

Yeah. Medically assisted. Jonathan Davis has kids.

29:31

I mean no matter who wins, we birds and

29:34

predator sort of the the monkey walking around the

29:36

cornstalks. See

29:38

I Why is that near? Not a

29:40

thing? Who knows. Ah yet not yet.

29:42

But I did one ask you guys

29:45

like what is it do you think

29:47

about this story Wires are so many

29:49

god soul of the corn movies like

29:51

why is it this story at you

29:53

Like why? why. Why upset.

29:56

Because it's an easy concept. I think his

29:58

you can always make kids creepy. I'm

30:00

like rustic weapons I think will always

30:02

be scary and will always give you

30:04

a little bit of sla survived. see

30:06

them play with am and you can

30:09

kind of him. To add a he

30:11

was behind the rose that never quite

30:13

dies even if all your kids die

30:15

and. And. So I think it's easy.

30:18

It's. Easy on paper. The execution, as

30:20

it turns out, is very hard because.

30:23

None of these movies are good I was

30:25

gonna say like it said, it sounds easy

30:27

on paper and also. Yes, children

30:29

are terrifying. I. Think I can

30:31

speak? I very clear without kids

30:34

so I personally find children terrifying

30:36

entity of oh yes yes. And

30:39

also of. America

30:41

in the latter half of the twentieth century. in

30:43

here. right up. In. The reverse

30:45

like rural America has become scary

30:48

to like it is it is

30:50

our the past is an unknown

30:52

country like are rural past is

30:54

very distant from us today and

30:56

people are terrified. I mean making

30:58

it, making you could do this

31:00

movie so much better today for

31:03

a lot of different reasons and

31:05

age we we're. Version.

31:07

Bit like not having your google

31:09

maps. Raid. Alley, not having

31:11

your phone and being like. In

31:14

the middle of nowhere where everything looks

31:16

like. Lake. I think with sheriff

31:18

I am a matter if it's geared us out matches

31:20

a theory that is the hidden. I

31:24

think. In a is so I

31:26

think that that setting and that a call

31:28

it the A calls to mind like are

31:30

sort of deepest fears about am being was

31:33

says in a way like not being able

31:35

to exist in nature, not be able to

31:37

control our own children right? And

31:40

then yet turns out that the really

31:42

scary idea. but in practice. A

31:44

Oh. Yeah. It it's not

31:47

slasher. movies are easier. Asia.

31:49

Plague or anything for setting does a lot

31:51

because I get emphysema notes the same note

31:53

Lot of times they just had asked permission

31:56

to go him to. These buildings were so

31:58

run down anyway. Yeah, yeah, I. You

32:00

need to find a desolate piece of land and

32:02

I mean now it would probably have like opium

32:04

addiction. Small. Town like energy going

32:06

on but it's kind of like when you

32:08

know when you travel through like parts of

32:11

the midwest and like there's just these ghost

32:13

towns that it's all crumbling infrastructure that doesn't

32:15

really seem to be anyone on says that

32:17

that somewhere but does be unbelievable that maybe

32:19

the kids were just survive and who's there

32:21

to check on him you know. As

32:24

long as he demo. A

32:28

similar wears a tornado center Rex this

32:30

town in a society sojourner sort of

32:32

less over mom. and

32:35

can get some similarities. their.

32:37

Well. Let's get into the

32:40

actual production of other sell

32:42

on and so director start

32:44

with him. his name is

32:46

a threats cheers and he

32:48

got his start in the

32:50

early eighties. Directing commercials,

32:53

And. With Street Black pre successful at

32:55

that, some that commercials and stuff and

32:57

then one of his former kind of

32:59

freelance dude that he would hire for

33:02

those commercials. his name was Donald Butchers

33:04

and he ended up getting a gig

33:06

a good gig at New World Sixers

33:08

as the Vp of Production and they.

33:10

You know, partnering with How Road

33:12

Studios became kind. Of that the

33:15

production partner there and. They.

33:17

This was one of their properties and so. He reached

33:19

out to frets and as like a man I

33:22

got this movies. To Stephen King thing. smaller budget

33:24

but like I think you'd be really good at

33:26

it. You want to do a feature film and

33:28

of course spreads was like oh yes he said

33:30

that growing up he likes a lot of be

33:32

you know be pictures the horror films so he

33:34

loved their. The triffids plan nine from outer

33:36

space. Of kind of looked at that

33:38

like as that this as his. Opportunity

33:41

to make one of those films. So

33:43

he was. Given a one point

33:45

three million dollar budget. But.

33:48

King took a pretty large chunk

33:51

of that after everything that happened

33:53

with Goldsmith to still have Stephen

33:55

King's name attached to the film.

33:57

King. Attached to a five hundred thousand. Our

34:00

price tag to that to have it his name.

34:02

Attached like or it will. You can use my script

34:04

will screw you have milk leave me. A

34:08

Ghani games from the Up which

34:10

less the film with only a

34:12

working budget of about eight hundred

34:14

thousand. so. Pretty. Small.

34:17

On even though at the time like I'm not sure if

34:19

the i don't think that's adjusted for inflation i think that's

34:21

what it was at the time but still like a decently

34:23

small. Budget. For a

34:26

full you know theatrical release feature

34:28

film. And they scattered for

34:30

locations all over the midwest. Tears knew

34:32

that he. Wanted it to be shot somewhere

34:35

that looked authentic and I think that that goes

34:37

so far and was probably one of the best

34:39

decisions they made for the summer. So

34:41

discarded locations all the midwest and they

34:43

landed on some various spots outside of

34:46

Sioux City, Iowa. Gatlin.

34:48

As we see. On screen which does not

34:50

exist. In. Real life was

34:52

made up from for small

34:54

towns and they kind of

34:56

took the spookiest parts. From

34:59

each one on. A

35:02

second of. What's his name?

35:04

Peter Horton? Is that who plays L? Yeah,

35:06

the hurt be I He had this funny.

35:08

Quote where he talked about how his one

35:10

of his memories of saying in Sioux City,

35:12

Iowa He said it's a sense memory I

35:15

remember. The smell. We stayed in a hotel that

35:17

was just downwind of a slaughterhouse and we kind

35:19

of lived with the smell of death the whole

35:21

shoot. It has stayed with me ever since and

35:23

I don't know why. Is

35:26

so. They were out that the same. As.

35:30

Like since the cells apparently are strongest,

35:32

the you know, emotionally associate memory so

35:34

I think I understand. Why am I to

35:36

sit There was no idea. I get eight

35:38

years and so a and like damn thing.

35:40

A lot of the locations that they saw

35:42

that were already empty, they were dusty, They

35:45

were already abandoned so there wasn't like a

35:47

ton of set dressing that they had to

35:49

do. The crew only had asked for permission

35:51

to film. there are and then add cornstalks.

35:54

Of course that for free to add that

35:56

corn stalks you know for that. Extra

35:58

flair. The end of.

36:01

You. Know the cities and the public or

36:03

super welcoming and very excited about the

36:05

opportunity. Which you can imagine and like. This had to be

36:07

a huge deal to have like. A Stephen

36:09

King picture being filmed in your small town?

36:12

Like? yeah, of course they're going to open

36:14

doors intuit. Yeah, you want to use my

36:16

abandoned house. Go. For it. On

36:20

like this one them Hollywood Pictures cities.

36:22

is it warranted Happened to that? Yeah,

36:24

four times in my truck. Yeah,

36:28

and Oregon the that being is Steven or later

36:30

Stephen King Stories on it. Down comes

36:32

through like a Stephen King har version

36:35

of giant. Yeah, they were.

36:39

Burrow Film Film comes to town to

36:41

sit to make a movie. In you

36:43

are already haunted. Like

36:45

backyard. Maybe that's our remake of Children

36:47

of the Core and like this is about a

36:49

children is a core in coming years ago make

36:51

it's own accord movies like a Man thing where

36:53

guy I call it a how studio called l

36:56

a twenty four like get up get him Here

36:58

We go out our in bulk of sad as.

37:01

Smear hexa. Children

37:04

land, children of the car

37:06

and learning as corner gyms.

37:08

Core reasons. For

37:10

horn horn or a the second. Oh

37:13

boy, a worse off his eyes will

37:15

take place after the third wicket barracks.

37:17

We read a lot more evolved. By. The

37:20

As will have some level whereas

37:22

items as ours that article. As

37:24

so Okay, so there's eight weeks of

37:27

pre production on. That this film or

37:29

four weeks of actual. Shooting and okay

37:31

I have to talk about the cinematographer

37:33

on this film because while of do

37:35

these episodes the things I find out

37:37

the things. The connections. And

37:40

cinema is just as a beautiful thing. And.

37:42

So I just one shows information with you

37:45

some it's harder for on. The song was

37:47

a Brazilian. Guy Name

37:49

Jowl Fernandez and.

37:51

This. Guy has quite the resume. Him.

37:55

Prior. To this he would some

37:57

a lot under a series of

37:59

alias. Harry

38:01

Flex. I'll spencer.

38:04

Juan. Fernandez. And

38:06

that was because he was best known

38:08

arm at then and maybe now. perhaps?

38:10

For his work in the porn

38:13

industry during the golden age of

38:15

Porn. This. Is a guy. He shot

38:17

his throat. The. The Throne Room,

38:19

The Devil and Miss Jones like

38:21

a some of the biggest, most

38:24

iconic. Titles in that

38:26

genre. This is him and

38:28

uses a idea for not

38:31

the golden age of worn.

38:33

I know he went. Ah, point

38:36

out. That. Way. This

38:38

guy that what on earth or it is

38:40

so they pour it out there. it's gotta

38:42

be oh god. I'm not certain own

38:44

I'm not either by everybody the

38:46

of he is there like a

38:48

redhead amount of our supply when.

38:51

It's over for me the I see it

38:53

as late as the Malik I look alike

38:55

and send issue up. man I really does.

38:57

That time other subjects say something bad is

39:00

going to happen. Sight of that, I don't.

39:02

Nothing good. I'm sorry I'm a Sunday. Yes,

39:04

don't actually said didn't say oh no please do

39:07

not. Yes, I had my doubts that must have

39:09

a half dozen with i wonder like and. Oh

39:12

yes, Oh, that's what he was doing before

39:14

Silver and of the corn. So he literally

39:16

did go from porn to corinth. Arm

39:18

and then started. Venturing. Into

39:21

actual Quote Unquote Film.

39:24

And. Since. And you know

39:26

you've got some good credits to

39:28

think that. The Prowler which is

39:30

great Friday The Thirteenth, The File

39:32

chapter also Invasion Usa missing in

39:34

action a lot of other Chuck

39:36

Norris productions and films. ah so

39:38

that's a good spots the sniffles

39:40

of not sure how he was

39:42

attached or got into contact with

39:44

of these guys but core. Makes

39:46

strange bedfellows and and I Yup,

39:48

yup, he did it and I'm.

39:52

Just. Wanted to have kind of

39:54

a Hitchcock. Approach of course eat at. It's a

39:56

spurs for some. He's like what am I going to do. I'm

39:58

going to do this like Hitchcock. Com:

40:00

Uma: Damascus Syria Yeah.

40:03

So he berated Little hint Monday homeless

40:05

and is that was below. The

40:07

same as yours. But

40:10

I. Buy it Will get into some

40:12

other things that his mother stunts that he

40:14

pulled with Linda Hamilton later on and mainly

40:17

it with the idea of like the suggestion

40:19

of violence through editing. Vs actually showing

40:21

violence which we do. See and

40:23

that and eye opening scene and continue

40:25

to see throughout the film so that

40:27

was kind of his in for it

40:29

in inspiration. For how he wanted to approach

40:32

this, an idea of a quote from him

40:34

kind of about this. The.

40:36

And you have it pulled up by. Nature and Wishers

40:38

Hitchcock So you'd rather do India

40:41

for comes from the familiar vs.

40:43

unfamiliar dilemma. That which were familiar

40:45

with is not scary. That which

40:47

we from mill unfamiliar with is

40:49

very scary. So we can introduce

40:51

yourself. As if there's someone to

40:53

into familiar situation with a very unfamiliar

40:55

elements The new crew the opportunity to

40:57

play something out scary. We.

41:00

Are all familiar? Were driving through a

41:02

small town stopping for gas. With a

41:04

twist of the story put them in

41:06

an accident where someone is injured. Now

41:08

we have some urgency how you amplify

41:10

that is become something grotesque and horrific.

41:13

It's. Kind of a weird like you yeah I do

41:15

have a car accidents. And

41:19

very profound or as complex.

41:21

As. A way that you actually empathizes. You have

41:23

your couple arguing, you know you have have

41:26

your cup of the unlikable people and King

41:28

has talked about that because he's got a

41:30

couple a different stories like this like couple

41:32

wanders into town and like rainy season and

41:34

you know they've got a hell of a

41:36

band. I think of the ones he mentions

41:38

in on writing I think and guess like

41:41

we have the set up and I think.

41:43

They. Just saw senate. No way that I think takes a

41:46

lot of edge out. In. I'm yeah it's

41:48

a cute very cute couple like part

41:50

of me watching it with like her

41:52

little birthday thing I'm like of hard

41:54

to be melee the hamilton that that

41:56

the door of all that's like and

41:58

then it's like i care. The about

42:00

this couple but. I. Don't

42:02

understand that it? I don't. I'm worried

42:04

about them, but there it is. their

42:06

interactions like don't make any sense, like

42:08

didn't add any urgency to the story.

42:10

And also it's not because they're and

42:13

love each other that they get into

42:15

trouble right? Like that, right? That would

42:17

be more interesting. And away trade

42:19

him in. instead. it's. Just.

42:22

Oh. Cute couple has kids attack

42:24

them. I wrote

42:26

down measure the die quotes music ximena

42:29

my sir season we will to stuff

42:31

but now I am a funny way

42:33

to like address a woman that I

42:36

don't and would fly and movies nowadays

42:38

oh yeah yeah oh I mean. I

42:40

sorry they basically they're to couple and then

42:42

it sort of artificially. Becomes

42:44

a strange stray like that is that's what

42:46

it felt like to me like it's it's

42:49

a sorry comparing the two bit like yeah

42:51

the end of the in the short story

42:53

they are there is a deep fisher in

42:55

their marriage. Rate. Like

42:57

holding on by a thread to their

42:59

marriage year. By do learn the mood. Of

43:02

good. In the movie is just

43:04

like oh i want us to like really

43:06

settled and i was actually get married of

43:08

letter know well okay if there's no like

43:11

sense of lake. Estrangement

43:13

or. Lake.

43:16

The. Kind of emotional.

43:18

Ah, Violence.

43:22

You know, like the threat. Of emotional like.

43:24

Violence that really is present. In. The

43:27

Short Story Radio instead. I'm

43:30

peter answer to resist the most clueless white

43:32

guy. Liga. It's just toxic

43:34

masculinity, but not even as an interesting

43:36

way. Yeah and I decided to close

43:38

Great Dog and Nord said years, but

43:40

his fact formula has something hey, I've

43:42

been censored. You are like every narrative

43:44

it's been told and thousands of years.

43:46

it's just like you to meet. It's

43:49

like you know I'll start on model

43:51

myself after one the all time greats

43:53

and that see what he's it was.

43:55

He introduced drama to make or out

43:57

of Saturday my son Michael Scott when

43:59

he later. Rob and he to see like

44:01

what's the most exciting thing that can happen. A gun gonna

44:03

get. Us anywhere that

44:05

has mercy of that approach. And

44:07

cause it's about the execution, the analysis. Yes,

44:09

you need all of it out but you

44:11

also have to do it well in and

44:13

not like he's the first got everything. hey

44:15

maybe as a try Hitchcock approach enough you

44:17

know yet? what if we posted about what

44:19

you get out of it's fact it sounded

44:21

like this slow build. It's not like we're

44:24

going to keep something hidden. we're. Not going

44:26

to show you very much. It's.

44:29

It's there's drama. In the

44:31

month which is how. I

44:33

identify and of like how they make of

44:35

were at the peak com the bert character

44:37

a doctor I guess because I had kind

44:39

of like oh he's a man of science

44:41

and he's up against them thing he doesn't

44:43

understand but other say it but similar it's

44:45

yeah okay that's interesting. But what do you

44:47

do with the Niners? Explored Some devices are

44:50

head and he's a good for young bump

44:52

from I don't think Zoc. Yeah yeah. Where

44:54

is in the story? He's like he was

44:56

as that in Vietnam and so like it's

44:58

just kind of haunting that it reminds him

45:00

of things he scene and he says and

45:02

right. Now yeah, yeah, it's like subtlety

45:05

vs. like. Bang. And over the have

45:07

with corn. Yes it yeah. I definitely feels like

45:09

this is a guy and he seems like a

45:11

very sweet guy. and yeah and interviews and stuff

45:13

but yeah like aren't this is my chance sung

45:15

in India and either. That enough for pathetic

45:17

are worth. I mean is my second

45:20

our still lot in Iraq and Iran?

45:22

Israel? And are in and I. Hope

45:24

they outside Quarterback and I phone Every single

45:26

person on this is the Helm is still

45:28

make and residuals man that's what I want

45:30

for them. Ah yes absolutely ah. I'm and

45:32

talking about some of the I did I

45:34

mention the extra as a lot of the

45:37

kids. A lot of those other kids that

45:39

we don't see like the main kids. A

45:41

lot of those were from Area Lights school

45:43

drama programs and so that's why I think

45:45

that's also part of it as a lot.

45:47

Of times these kids feel like they're

45:50

like little kids who aren't necessarily actors.

45:52

Really snored yeah, I go or in

45:54

a movie. Cool. I get that if

45:56

they don't sell it, necessarily that the

45:59

actual like skill. The Fifth Again, The

46:01

Matter movie. Here would be really and with I

46:03

think you'd be going to you have the advantage

46:05

is not very good acting. Yeah. Actually,

46:07

get in some kind of. Ready

46:11

to sell it anymore like is under the current children

46:13

of the others that our it says or is a

46:15

great of the rates children of the children of the

46:17

court that. Ever since.

46:19

Ever. This was something that years of talks

46:21

about. how he's kind of struggled where it's

46:23

sort of putting these kids in these situations

46:26

and promoting violence in this way. It's and

46:28

just the whole idea about these kids like

46:30

murdering their parents and murdering all these people

46:32

in the town. It was something that he.

46:35

Likes literally struggled with

46:37

onset. Just kind of like oh what he

46:39

was asking the kids to do and then also

46:41

just a little concerned about what he was putting

46:43

out into the world. And I'm so here's a

46:46

courtyard about that. He says as a filmmaker he

46:48

have more responsibilities. We affect people all over the

46:50

world's But in the end of the story is

46:52

very moral. It proposes we should not do things

46:54

that we feel are incorrect just so you can

46:56

go along with the group. So violence in its

46:58

end is. A bad thing, but children were

47:00

used to expand upon that theme. I think

47:03

the story holds up because of that and

47:05

I and I don't disagree with him here.

47:07

I'm. Yeah, any

47:09

thoughts on. Putting. The kids

47:11

in this situation. He.

47:14

Sell at a thinking it'll say thinking

47:16

about this meeting with Eight Hundred and

47:18

I are now flake. I kind of.

47:21

That. I want to make fun of them

47:23

a little bit, but also. You. Know why?

47:25

Yeah it is bad to put children and in

47:27

harm's way. I'm glad that you had of Think

47:29

about that and. Also, I'm

47:31

not sure if. It's a real

47:33

message movie is so says the same. Last

47:37

and I think like a good when I'm

47:39

thinking about this and thing about these poor

47:41

little kids who are not in that movie

47:43

industry like reminds me of the above a

47:45

duke and knowing that and for can went

47:48

out of her way to make sure the

47:50

actor who plays Samuel was not getting burrow

47:52

by his mom with like black goo dripping

47:54

all over her yes tip kind of protect

47:56

him but I also think I'll think there's

47:58

anything nearly that scary happening and. The movie

48:00

that I think when be damaging to

48:02

a kid you know, yeah but also

48:04

like a. Part. Of what

48:07

har is the purpose of it

48:09

as to transgress transgress And that's

48:11

what makes the scary is that

48:13

kids who we see our innocence

48:15

and m are we assume are

48:17

innocent just because they are young

48:19

and. Are. Not and they can do

48:21

violent things and that is part of being a

48:23

parent to. It's scary. You know you don't know

48:25

who your kids are gonna grow up to be

48:27

like I watch true crime shows and I'm like

48:29

oh shit of at our to teach my kids

48:31

to be get people can like what if they

48:34

do bad things you know and I think you

48:36

can't do that you can't make that point that

48:38

kind of. Teachers. That lesson

48:40

or put the idea that that is bad

48:42

and the world without putting kids in this

48:44

movie you know So how can a you

48:46

have to do it as per the reason

48:49

I love this story and I do love

48:51

the movie At an age I agree the

48:53

i don't think it's a message movie by

48:55

any means but it also any it's an

48:57

idea movie you know it said this kids

49:00

kids can be bad too and you know

49:02

you gotta watch him and you also have

49:04

to be good people because if you are.

49:07

Trying. To rule them with an iron fist and

49:09

they don't want that. What are they gonna become when

49:11

they get rid of you? You know? That as

49:13

exurbs as a monopoly seems really telling.

49:15

Also without says they're dressing up as

49:17

adults. you know they're doing their behavior

49:19

of what they seem and as he

49:21

could find a fact they're playing them

49:23

monopolies split you me like thirteen thousand

49:25

hundred dollars in their way you're cheating

49:27

and it's like ha ha just like

49:29

adults Soon you know business and will

49:31

and I'm just like dressed up as

49:34

I see as like those fox like.

49:36

Me: At All. or whatever

49:38

I'm. Sorry. That was

49:40

like a little unnerving to see the

49:42

children pretend to be adults, but I

49:44

don't think it's sixteen readers like was

49:46

those shining Danny Doctor didn't even know

49:49

his home in a horror movie. I

49:51

thought this was in Panama, that like

49:53

most allowances, obscene or offscreen. there's a

49:55

few months flashes of the kids by

49:57

weren't even involved with so I. He

50:00

height as nervous Gettysburg when children, so there's

50:02

a huge liability there. But why it is

50:04

a hired. Hand. Right? Like I think that's

50:06

a big difference between somebody who's setting out to

50:09

like I want to tell this story like I'm

50:11

a of so make up and but I think

50:13

this guy it does seem like in this is

50:15

not and know said to him but he was

50:17

in the commercial world what has he had him

50:20

in his brother I like started an advertising agency

50:22

like. He was very much in a different kind

50:24

of world and this was a job. and so

50:26

coming in and ten these situations I think maybe.

50:28

He just had a slightly different perspective

50:30

than somebody who. Is like you know

50:33

I want to tell the story. I make

50:35

films right Like I think It's just kind

50:37

of a different approach and back and rich

50:39

give us drastically different result. Know David Fincher?

50:41

kind of. Sound. Young King

50:44

of the Map. Listen. So. This

50:46

movie is actually about Labor relations. And

50:49

it just. Gets So you elaborate

50:51

a little that well, you know. I

50:54

mean it's about it. The way that

50:56

capitalism corrupts families. And turned families

50:58

into little versions of like management and labor.

51:00

And then what's the families destroyed? You just

51:03

keep reproducing that as long as you're part

51:05

of the capitalist system, as long as you're

51:07

feeding the machine will end. You're feeding the

51:09

machine at all All capital very sickly runs

51:12

on blood. Brain. Sake!

51:14

So. I. V I think

51:16

I think you'll see it now. Say he who

51:18

occupying the road is capitalism Yes yeah you I

51:21

kind of scared of them and has be said

51:23

by blood blood alone like path as you can

51:25

make caught you can make your gasohol. Sure,

51:28

And. Is that you? But ultimately it's all

51:30

runs on blood and ultimately all these relationships

51:33

turn into relationships management, labor and you have

51:35

to send the people you know no matter

51:37

how many people. You send into the cord you're

51:39

going to have someone come up as the boss who

51:41

then needs to be killed. Yeah and than

51:43

you I think is one thing that I

51:46

think I like. I think the story makes

51:48

to this point better than the movies. but

51:50

as the gallery shrinks the timeline as three

51:52

years between The Mask or and when Burton,

51:54

Vicky and Earth and in the story it's

51:56

like eleven or twelve years. So it was

51:58

the first Isaac and now we have. Isaac

52:00

is only nine. Until I think you see

52:03

that kind of generational turnover and you know

52:05

it makes the point of like burning out

52:07

fast too cause age a favor of nineteen

52:09

like that when you're at your prime and

52:11

them once your pastor prime we don't need

52:13

you were onto the next generation and. Say.

52:16

I'd rather I'd definitely see and I could get

52:18

that. it's very eerie, you know? Also keeping

52:20

really bands with the oil supplier the gas

52:22

station guys. at least it's like or we

52:24

are cheap relations with our neighbors here to

52:26

keep on going into the regime editor of

52:28

and is. Visible. Really like

52:31

is there are cases pc you just keep

52:33

recreating these relationships. I am I being a

52:35

kind of serious like no no I really

52:37

rare psyche keep recreate the relationships and so

52:39

they're play acting as adults is just another

52:41

example of them doing it kind of in

52:43

manager and then I think studies degree. If

52:46

I thought I thought it was almost on. Purpose.

52:48

Like that when I started citizens episodes the

52:50

but this nether Monopoly seen I'm like maybe

52:52

are really maybe maybe they know they're making.

52:54

This a movie about her pieces of

52:56

capitalism. Because he goes like I went. all

52:58

the money in the world. Will

53:01

end of the guess there's a guy above

53:03

the age of favor to like Well you

53:05

have to say they are like ignoring their own

53:07

principles to keep this capitalist machine running in. Oh

53:09

yeah and also of i wanna say about

53:11

the way they treat the kids this was

53:13

the eighties also and as as young feeds

53:15

into a to like this was the time

53:17

as like you know I Drew Barrymore was a

53:20

young actor in the business the Coreys were kind

53:22

of coming up so like. I

53:24

don't know if I really fault him for

53:26

not taking as much care as like somebody

53:28

like Jennifer can who center Movie and twenty

53:30

thirteenth because of a lot of the lessons

53:32

that we learned. but I think that's another

53:34

element of capitalism. It's like who is expendable

53:37

and who do we need to care for.

53:39

And I think we learned a lot of

53:41

those lessons the hard way. and a lotta

53:43

times we just keep learning them over and

53:45

over and over again. or we keep getting

53:47

fed into the machine. Now.

53:50

Ah I'm One other production related thing

53:52

I wanted to touch on was is

53:54

that the music? The composer Jonathan Elias

53:56

because he is a very he's. A

53:58

Pretty interesting A Quick. The Guy: He

54:01

got his start making music for

54:03

movie trailers when he was in

54:05

college and he did the open.

54:07

But. Music for Alien The trailer for Alien

54:09

Blade Runner Back to the Future because this

54:12

was before the films were in, are entirely

54:14

finished and. Before. The scores were finished and

54:16

if you listen to any halloween he covers on.

54:18

Aliens ah you'll know why I'm

54:20

but yes of interesting connection there

54:22

and he also came from the

54:24

advertising world's i think that's aware

54:26

that he met cure still the

54:28

work with Duran Duran and produced

54:30

Bulletproof. Heart for Grace Jones. He

54:33

composed the fanfare for the Columbia.

54:35

Pictures logo that debuted off with

54:37

that last Action Hero and is.

54:39

Still used to the states. So

54:42

weird. Credits. And this was

54:44

his first film score. Ah,

54:47

But. Not as west. He would go

54:49

on to score lot of films

54:51

including Leper con su so another

54:53

a leper kinds of nerve according

54:56

to excerpts. Parents Vamp, another Grace

54:58

Jones thing, Tough Turf and Nine

55:00

and a Half Weeks so some

55:02

some bangers their an innocent little

55:04

more. Lots of. We. Have

55:08

em either! I think he does a good

55:10

job the it feels very inspiring. Influenced by

55:12

Amityville Horror The Oh. Man. Feels

55:14

like he watched some popular films with.

55:16

Great scores and was I can do this.

55:19

Sure why not and I think it's is

55:21

an amazing now is a great sure it's

55:23

good, it's got its moments and I think

55:25

he does a good job. Man,

55:27

I'm a sucker for a creepy kids glare like

55:29

yeah, I love it and I do think it

55:31

out well executed. I think that's one of the

55:33

stronger elements as enter the somebody who directed Kid

55:36

Squires for about thirteen years and they can be

55:38

rupees. Sounding it's

55:40

fire. I've heard a lot of. Am.

55:42

Not so good. and they they sound good. So.

55:45

I have it it's on the scariest. I

55:47

should save it for cemetery but or a

55:49

suggests the such both. The. Opening

55:51

credits repeat hand drawn pictures of the kids

55:54

with the children's chorus as i guess yeah

55:56

are you are moving My god I was

55:58

checking my phone another guy the take all

56:00

the family business great. Yeah. So.

56:03

The I think it is a great job so just

56:05

one to give him a little shout. There's an. Awesome!

56:08

And to talk about the practical and

56:10

visual effects. On. This because.

56:13

I think we think we all know

56:16

not the the strongest. Not.

56:18

The Strongest Suit for the Film and I

56:20

have a quote here from Linda Hamilton Gente

56:22

Wonder if someone the hairs on the I

56:25

I mean yes, because of budget problems they

56:27

were taking away all of the special effects.

56:29

They kept her reducing the things as I

56:31

thought were exceptional about the scripts because they

56:33

were the things that are also exceptionally difficult

56:36

and expensive. But it was still a great

56:38

experience. And the so yeah

56:40

makes sense why they would cut them

56:42

but also like yeah or no way

56:44

I could probably. Have done with some

56:46

of those things. So here are some the

56:48

cuts they made: The script originally called for

56:51

a much larger death scene where Isaac from

56:53

Alec I were. Isaac drags Molokai dramatically cut

56:55

through the cornfield, but it got caught up

56:57

for these reasons. and also when Isaac returns

57:00

from the Dead useless to. Have like parts

57:02

a skeleton showing their sos be a fight

57:04

scene. With him and Molokai Malik, I was gonna

57:06

stab him and the chests. The whole thing was

57:08

gonna be. A lot bigger and then they're like

57:10

okay, we don't have money for that. Will have

57:13

time for this. I don't notice bridges next so

57:15

that was kind of fastest. I'm. Not.

57:17

Sure, I think that we would all agree

57:19

that were okay with this next change that

57:22

they made, especially on that Randall would not

57:24

appreciate that, but the dog death of Sarge

57:26

was initially. Going to be when he opens of at of the

57:28

truck there is going to be the. Dogs severed head under

57:30

their but they just cut that and you

57:33

to see the bloody bandana head. canon he

57:35

got away or a yes it would have

57:37

had a big impact. but I'm also not

57:39

sad about Mussina head canon. Surgery.

57:43

And. Sort. Of got away. that's

57:45

I'd be they cut I'm really bad. Yeah.

57:48

He's out like that and he's in the

57:51

next town over. yeah man having for at

57:53

home a daily basis for at home and

57:55

now he's like living at the poor he

57:57

says you know what their face Abigail. And

58:00

mother up against the the feather abigail

58:02

and and he said the get a

58:04

pal around with they a were that

58:06

with read you know lake it is

58:08

all them be okay for. Sarge.

58:11

Thank. You very much as yeah I'm

58:13

also the the gas station attendant deal.

58:15

Other was supposed to be a scene

58:17

where Burton Vicky go back to that

58:19

service station only to find it overtaken

58:22

with corn with says whatever that means

58:24

an that his corpse was gonna be

58:26

hidden under his truck covered with corn

58:28

holding up another corn crucifix or but

58:31

they ended up never filming this and

58:33

just scrap the whole thing because of

58:35

the budget. Ah, the cornstalks turning black

58:37

and rotting at the end Was supposed

58:40

to be a big. Part of it

58:42

were when the. Creature, the beast, Whatever

58:44

dies. all the corn whispers like turn

58:46

black and just kind of. Fall.

58:49

Apart. Ah, cut that. Joseph to his

58:51

death was originally supposed to be a

58:53

bunch of the kids killing him. Scrap

58:55

that just mouth I just are. Bad.

58:57

Boy read as bad boy and then

58:59

also there's a scene where Bert was

59:01

supposed to find a bunch of adult

59:03

skeletons in some building and I was

59:05

supposed to have a one on one

59:07

fight with Molokai were and the he

59:09

was was a stab malika in the

59:12

legs with a bone before narrowly. Avoiding

59:14

getting burning corn oil poor

59:16

and on him by to

59:18

pregnant teenage girls. So.

59:21

That got caught. With

59:25

that makes it while and like the pregnant

59:27

girls like teenage girls that we do see

59:29

that in. The story and that's

59:31

I think very intentionally left out

59:33

in what we get mom. It's

59:36

it a feeling of hinted at like there

59:38

is a girl the girl who's like cutting

59:41

and test could be pregnant by. Yeah She

59:43

also just could be wearing like of like

59:45

any type dress you know? yeah and I

59:47

know. I will say in

59:49

the twenty twenty three. Remade.

59:51

Children of the Corn have any real

59:54

seen that have night at. It's not

59:56

good but it's a lot of fun.

59:58

Actually really like it that has a

1:00:00

really fun like central violence but they

1:00:02

try to do a lot of these

1:00:04

effects are actually pretty faithful to the

1:00:06

story as far as like over or

1:00:08

under and what he who walks behind

1:00:10

the rose is written to look like

1:00:12

and it's still the the really work

1:00:14

and asked so I don't know. I

1:00:16

think actually think that a lot of

1:00:18

the effects in this movie other than

1:00:20

just like corn randomly scattered places is

1:00:22

pretty creepy like just being in the

1:00:24

corn itself. Feals creepy so I don't

1:00:26

think you need to go over the

1:00:28

top and. Great. Like considering what

1:00:31

the effects they did keep him look like,

1:00:33

I think it's probably smart decision for them

1:00:35

to take sell. Him. Yeah. It

1:00:37

was is the easiest to me a hundred thousand as.a

1:00:39

whole lot to work with. So. Ah,

1:00:42

Doubling was like a little bit more

1:00:44

about the core and because I was

1:00:46

a big drama piece on this production

1:00:48

was just the record the corn or

1:00:51

because. Initially when they they scout Ed

1:00:53

and went to this location the corners.

1:00:55

Very green that was growing. It was

1:00:57

very vibrant. And they loved it. But

1:00:59

here's the thing. it's corn grows and

1:01:02

it dies. It's a crop and it

1:01:04

changes colors of the goes through and

1:01:06

they the crew very quickly learns how

1:01:08

fast those colors can change when it

1:01:10

comes time to harvests And so for

1:01:13

continuity sake they had to keep regularly.

1:01:15

Spray painting cornstalks to keep the colors

1:01:17

greens that wouldn't be like really dramatic

1:01:19

and certain seems like colors so I

1:01:21

just I just think that's so funny

1:01:23

as there's as these stories or other

1:01:26

it would they were just out there

1:01:28

in these massive fields just spray painting

1:01:30

Corey would swiftly Connie's saw the Christopher

1:01:32

Nolan for Interstellar. He actually grew five

1:01:34

hundred acres of corn. Yeah and he

1:01:36

says when those things were like with

1:01:38

you have the machinery and the labour

1:01:40

it's actually cheaper to just have five

1:01:43

hundred said of fifties and actually sold

1:01:45

back. Some the corn for profit so loaded

1:01:47

on a repeat eaves. Had to be willing

1:01:49

to grow the Kornberg. The. Summer Hudson's

1:01:51

Warner Center. City

1:01:53

that why on earth is better.

1:01:56

After nine of internal this. I've

1:01:58

been trying to do. I mean, that was the road. Hi

1:02:00

Records Cost of Buccaneer. Lines

1:02:05

on the road that are getting

1:02:07

out of nothing wrong with his

1:02:09

current ones with oh please, Dell

1:02:12

and ah, For.

1:02:14

Like the wind but they didn't have

1:02:16

when machines are they couldn't afford actual with

1:02:18

machine so they use want boats from

1:02:20

around and use the fans on Swan

1:02:22

both of us I think. It's hilarious

1:02:25

but whatever works. And so the

1:02:27

dirt monster creature that we see

1:02:29

say it was in upside down

1:02:31

wheelbarrow that they put in a

1:02:33

ditch and it was added by

1:02:36

an I believe that. The yes

1:02:38

yes that the I got the second

1:02:40

half really soft and. Supple. They pull

1:02:42

their by an aircraft table that was

1:02:44

attached to a tractor the cover and

1:02:46

they covered that with canvas and dirt

1:02:48

and that's what gives that affects how

1:02:50

did you hear who helps with that

1:02:53

two boys Galloway skills. they were like

1:02:55

that the dead cell truth that one

1:02:57

it experience in the film industry see

1:02:59

put it in bad a movie film

1:03:01

comes to tell under current was a

1:03:03

good deals and other children of the

1:03:05

car and do we get a mere

1:03:07

patch for that. Know the quarter

1:03:09

one? That's. Ah,

1:03:12

the whole thing costs about one hundred dollars so

1:03:14

sounds. Like those Boy Scouts were not. Compensated

1:03:16

for their one. Of

1:03:18

the sky monster kind of the mushroom

1:03:21

cloud sort of effect. So Cheers had

1:03:23

a cinematographer friends who had once done

1:03:25

some experimenting on for a motorcycle company

1:03:27

commercial that they were filming and he

1:03:29

injected some Inc into a liquid and

1:03:31

with had photographed at the ended up

1:03:33

not using that but subsurface like he

1:03:35

can I ask what to do with

1:03:37

that footage, can I use it in

1:03:39

front of ah yes or whatever so

1:03:42

gave it secures and then he flipped

1:03:44

upside down colored and that's why we

1:03:46

have that in the some so. Didn't.

1:03:48

Cost anything but was resourceful. I

1:03:50

guess who better the Mind of

1:03:52

Yours Effects many years later, true

1:03:55

and our. Voice tells did get badges.

1:03:57

Max. In. A. Redundancy. In

1:04:00

that way. Basket as they were compensated

1:04:02

that way that tiger the variants that is.

1:04:04

he accepts that are. Oh

1:04:07

okay as in the final big

1:04:09

explosion more fodder for are making

1:04:11

of of follow up sequel film.

1:04:13

So this was a huge event

1:04:15

in town was because everybody knew

1:04:17

this was the night they were

1:04:20

gonna blow up the cornfield and

1:04:22

so it was shot at night

1:04:24

and about five hundred area folks

1:04:26

from the public and surrounding towns

1:04:28

showed up to watch this. They

1:04:30

tailgate Ed and that was a

1:04:32

big to do and so that

1:04:34

yeah that ten storey fireball on

1:04:36

happens and he could just hear

1:04:38

like the crowds. Cheering like the

1:04:40

final new big moment and suddenly

1:04:42

the court yep big happen in.

1:04:45

Night there in Gatland. ah than

1:04:47

they had to wrote a scope

1:04:49

some of the extra devil a

1:04:52

sex for added impacts. I

1:04:55

guess. I don't know.

1:04:57

I don't I feel about that that final sort

1:04:59

of. Creature reveals: I

1:05:01

don't know everyone what you call it.

1:05:04

A little girl through of the ground in her sleep.

1:05:07

Yeah. I guess that was yeah,

1:05:09

so that's what they did their so those are

1:05:11

some of the effects and then yes, I got

1:05:13

like we mentioned, a lot. of the gore

1:05:15

and stuff was off off camera didn't

1:05:17

involve the kids for various reasons so

1:05:20

they also. Saved a lot of money with that.

1:05:22

Because we're we don't really see a whole lot of.

1:05:24

Like violence. And kind

1:05:26

of those kind of effects of other than

1:05:28

just kind of the basics that, which also,

1:05:30

who knows, maybe the boy scouts did that.

1:05:33

Maybe they got a practical make a perfect badge

1:05:35

a much more. Or

1:05:37

I said, that's how we got here.

1:05:40

That's the production. a little bit of

1:05:42

the background on, but you know, I

1:05:44

really think that honestly another big strength.

1:05:47

of this film or the characters and

1:05:49

actors that we do get. So let's

1:05:51

move on to our next section which

1:05:53

is called Heroes and Villains. Who

1:05:55

could have to kill this fucking clue? Zero,

1:06:05

The Golan. Mrs. Organ Suck up. Heroes

1:06:07

and villains are characters. And.

1:06:10

I don't start with or

1:06:12

couple are lovely loving couple

1:06:14

Burton Vicky. The start with

1:06:17

birds. Played. By Peter Horton. Who.

1:06:20

Was I don't know the biggest quote unquote

1:06:22

star at the time against. Middle Pfeiffer.

1:06:25

Seven hair, I mean I'm

1:06:27

a huge fan the I'd she's my and that

1:06:29

on my resume Iceland has been. He was major

1:06:31

I think from like eighty one to eat

1:06:33

or something so he kind of what they were

1:06:36

like. a bit of an it couple of times.

1:06:38

Yeah, and yet he wasn't like in a

1:06:41

ton of stuff at this point. but he

1:06:43

would go on to become pretty big. He

1:06:45

was. And Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, Say

1:06:47

The Black, which I don't think was begged

1:06:49

at the time, but it's kind of a

1:06:52

cult classic now and then. He went on

1:06:54

to the It Wasn't That show, thirty something

1:06:56

that bazillion episodes was named one of People

1:06:58

Like Fifty Most Beautiful People or whatever. so

1:07:00

he became a much bigger start after the

1:07:03

selves. Ah, But. Yeah, he's birch.

1:07:06

He. Said he was a quote from says it seems

1:07:08

like an okay movie when I read the script

1:07:10

but in the end. It

1:07:12

ended up not being so great. A

1:07:15

separate good insights years after.

1:07:18

I mean feels kind of like his character

1:07:20

in the movie. You know this is something

1:07:22

creepy town music and earlier. Yeah

1:07:25

I for me he kind of like he does

1:07:27

in some ways like really highlight the kind of

1:07:29

the. Vast contrast between. you know, the

1:07:31

familiar in the unfamiliar. But.

1:07:34

I'm. Not sure it's so hell

1:07:36

out of it aids the

1:07:39

story or just makes the

1:07:41

film feel. Cheaper. And

1:07:43

easier than you know it would if he was

1:07:45

a little bit more. Committed.

1:07:47

Or like the gave some. Sort of fear

1:07:49

response cause after time he says like what

1:07:51

the doorway for success with. I think is

1:07:54

reasonable. The also like it's a movie like

1:07:56

maybe. Ah

1:07:59

you. Pretty thick way of celebrating it

1:08:01

I believe is what he says at one

1:08:04

point as it is evident he says it

1:08:06

is cause like yeah pretty sick way of

1:08:08

celebrating his like meet A is this is.

1:08:10

It is not as though he's actually

1:08:13

horrified by anything, right more. Just like

1:08:15

I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. Yeah

1:08:19

it's a very like dad bland

1:08:21

dad vibe you know which I

1:08:23

think like and it feels like

1:08:25

very every man like this is

1:08:27

how I would react but again

1:08:29

like that's. This. Is a movie I

1:08:31

need something a little more like I want

1:08:33

him to be. A little

1:08:35

A he just feels like an avatar

1:08:37

for the point the movie is trying

1:08:39

to make of like this fundamentalist thing

1:08:42

is bad especially in his like porn

1:08:44

circle speech that he is that it's

1:08:46

terrible I now is it It feels

1:08:48

very for emerald Isle g E and

1:08:50

out there is a point where it's

1:08:52

not supposed to be funny. I think

1:08:54

that when he's like lecturing that children

1:08:56

about how bad religious fundamentalism is a

1:08:58

my yeah way to go really sword

1:09:01

some like a larger point where albino

1:09:03

you would have had for us ally.

1:09:05

Rap with you didn't hear back from

1:09:07

what. I did like

1:09:09

when he runs from the children org that is

1:09:11

like a grown man. We're out running nine year

1:09:13

olds and he just takes off and if they

1:09:15

don't stab them there was no where they're ever

1:09:17

going to touch him. He hasn't been chosen. One

1:09:19

point he surrounded him as equipment and will them

1:09:21

says like luckless that we can and is takes

1:09:24

off because you're not as much I. Am

1:09:28

not waiting for you. Not really winning

1:09:30

much been argument when you're like the

1:09:32

debating against like that children today are

1:09:34

too young to vote and then also

1:09:36

you're not really escaping something very fearsome

1:09:38

when you're escaping them. Lake is no

1:09:40

he is no fair say is no

1:09:42

point. like the we it becomes a

1:09:44

fair fight leary like the book as

1:09:46

scary as a surprise, them and the

1:09:49

overwhelmed. Yeah, rain. And.

1:09:51

That is the way kids are listening.

1:09:54

If. You want to take over a town? You

1:09:56

want a surprise anyone over once now. Once

1:10:00

they're gonna get on their feet and can

1:10:02

run away from you you've last sorry are

1:10:04

you gotta really put he got planned ahead

1:10:06

and start. I was damn mental math and like

1:10:08

how many kids I could beat up out. And

1:10:12

I think I get a for five twelve year olds. but yeah

1:10:14

if there had me with my get their. Slice.

1:10:17

Him he up working together. I don't think I could do

1:10:19

it but I've heard there was a beard on like. I

1:10:21

wonder if I could get out and like and will. Point

1:10:23

is that like playing an ant colony, readers get overwhelmed. Exactly.

1:10:25

It's like you want to be the giant occurred.

1:10:28

You want to be out the million tiny ducks.

1:10:30

You know they don't make a very compelling argument

1:10:32

that he we get overwhelmed they really need. I'll

1:10:34

bring in more of those kids from the you

1:10:36

know, gifted and talented programs that the other high

1:10:38

schools. It's the other way When you Mcluhan, why

1:10:40

am I have. Those and without make

1:10:42

some traps or something or. And

1:10:44

like some of the big kids like there's a

1:10:46

see when like Isaac as doing like his big

1:10:48

like speech it was just was like Molokai in

1:10:50

the kids. like there's like some guys in the

1:10:52

background. To look like they're football players who

1:10:54

look like they're well over eighteen years old.

1:10:56

Like grown ass man. And as a that.

1:10:58

Where are they? Split by separate? See these guys.

1:11:00

Alec that's the six year old and I got

1:11:02

a driver as exams for a big he's pretty

1:11:05

gave her number. I am

1:11:07

so sick and like before arguing

1:11:09

with them about how religion is

1:11:11

bad and how like this is

1:11:13

like the You Tube video that

1:11:15

that lake differences bert just are

1:11:18

always. Felt that

1:11:20

has a children's in Oregon. Their

1:11:22

fundamental. Burden

1:11:25

for and dreams of resistance.

1:11:31

Movement when like ahead of. Fall.

1:11:33

With his sister. Like I said,

1:11:35

his corn of tic toc yeah

1:11:38

yeah I I don't like. How

1:11:40

many he convinces either? You know I don't

1:11:43

like that he wins them all over with

1:11:45

his logic and I think you know the

1:11:47

the argument I would make to descend that

1:11:50

is like they have like one death that

1:11:52

are like one like dictator and they're just

1:11:54

swarming to another kiss their kids and they

1:11:56

don't know but I think. Like.

1:11:59

This story. It's just so much darker because

1:12:01

they cannot be swayed. it of the matter

1:12:03

what you say and that's what's funny about

1:12:06

fun of or that sorry That's what's scary

1:12:08

about Fundamentalists is that it doesn't matter what

1:12:10

kind of argument like you, they have accepted

1:12:13

that they don't care about you as much

1:12:15

as they care about their beliefs. Also.

1:12:17

Children the built point the think you

1:12:19

don't appeal to children. Some logic exactly.

1:12:21

You get zilla years into the of

1:12:23

thank you know like I don't did

1:12:25

he really went up over with logic.

1:12:27

Is that what bird did I. Think

1:12:30

is tight labor. Confident

1:12:32

older person they haven't seen

1:12:34

one in many years and

1:12:36

he's like an all protect

1:12:38

you okay sir. Isaac is

1:12:40

scary. Now you feel as

1:12:42

scary than Isaac layer. Will.

1:12:45

Go with you like. Enough.

1:12:47

Theory but you would you like in the

1:12:49

real world? Like if if if I would

1:12:51

put the kid in town where the says

1:12:54

his were like reading it like a despotic

1:12:56

like fundamentalists corn calls. I don't think I

1:12:58

try to appeal to their logic. I think

1:13:00

I'd be like look. We. Have

1:13:03

game. Are. Yannick Freeze.

1:13:05

I have you heard of

1:13:07

Potato Exaggerated? Sense

1:13:09

if we're in a. Few

1:13:12

korea to of corn pops. Yeah record

1:13:14

pops up. No I didn't think. So

1:13:16

raise we have sugar. Your juri?

1:13:19

Because sugar. Well we sugar beets.

1:13:21

Anyway, I guess. That

1:13:23

would be as appeal like. also like how are you

1:13:25

don't look like you're eating very well? You don't look

1:13:27

like addressing very well. Make. Would you

1:13:30

like to play monopoly and come in?

1:13:32

And join me and my wife who's

1:13:34

really totally fine. I trust trust me

1:13:37

that you don't like and religion is

1:13:39

the opiate of the losses and abuse

1:13:41

shouldn't. Like. Hurt people

1:13:43

cause that bad mono. Lake.

1:13:46

That he didn't even do you shouldn't her people could as

1:13:48

bad as actually. Just weird. Like the logic of

1:13:50

like Bill Mars and Argue and you had

1:13:53

to be an atheist with him. That,

1:13:55

but if the Marlies this movie. When.

1:13:57

He does. Know. The

1:14:00

Okay. a citizen. Of

1:14:03

no rules that led to Hamilton's a

1:14:05

babe of I did like someone to

1:14:07

Hamilton if I could segue to her.

1:14:09

Oh yes for yeah ago I during

1:14:11

the hot people in this is already

1:14:13

I can balance a checkbook. Sarah Connor

1:14:15

you know not the one making pipe

1:14:17

bombs so there is weird instinct I

1:14:19

have like protect her because she was

1:14:21

so young and I think I. Became.

1:14:24

More aware of her after Terminator

1:14:26

two. So. In my mind I

1:14:28

we saw her as like Jack Tonight Soldier

1:14:30

So yeah, insert a single back and seem

1:14:32

like a softer version is what I think

1:14:34

this was filmed probably right around when Terminator

1:14:37

was hungry. Yeah. Yes, I

1:14:39

did some digging into my clean Linda Hamilton

1:14:41

but as see his am one of my

1:14:43

favorite people on earth and I agree with

1:14:45

you damn like I saw Terminator two before

1:14:47

I saw Terminator. but as as a perfect

1:14:49

million it's. Just. Perfect.

1:14:52

Sense. But yeah so are a my

1:14:54

mind see is Linda Hamilton doing push

1:14:56

ups on her bed overturns and I

1:14:58

pull ups. And the yes he filmed

1:15:01

Terminator right after filming this as she

1:15:03

went back like back to back. They

1:15:05

were both released in the same year.

1:15:07

So her film They Be was in

1:15:09

Nineteen Seventy Nine. See. That of

1:15:11

until like Tv and like hundred and on

1:15:13

Outset and I think we would remember is

1:15:16

on the soap oper for a little bit

1:15:18

and then Corn was released on March ninth

1:15:20

and Terminator was. Released on October

1:15:22

Twenty Six. So. Yeah, that's the

1:15:25

very much like Sarah Connor kind of thing. even

1:15:27

to the point where when she says sarah I

1:15:29

like that name, I was like. By

1:15:34

I will say she's out. This movie

1:15:36

was gonna ruin her career and I

1:15:38

found a bunch of quotes on her.

1:15:40

one from Nineteen Ninety Two, the The

1:15:42

Terminator Files, and it's called San Mateo

1:15:44

which is what we were calling. And

1:15:47

strong women back then as and I have an

1:15:49

easier way on at all. And

1:15:51

but she says and the talking about

1:15:53

her worst movies. nothing is beaten. Stephen

1:15:55

King's Children of the Cornea which still

1:15:57

haunts my past as the worst Cel

1:15:59

Mai. They'd can you believe they're making

1:16:01

a sequel? They didn't their asked me to

1:16:03

reprise that role but then she also says

1:16:05

in this rate I think you found this

1:16:07

to the it was the eighties documentary about

1:16:09

it. Yeah, he said it was a good

1:16:12

time, it was a really good time and

1:16:14

she said i remember and I've just never

1:16:16

forgotten facing this producer toward the end because

1:16:18

they added the scene where we get back

1:16:20

into the car after all that has come

1:16:22

down and I was so offended I said

1:16:24

why why would these people ever get back

1:16:26

in the car It's a legitimate question she

1:16:28

said of and the producers. As you know

1:16:31

after all that's gone down will look

1:16:33

they're really stupid and he said well

1:16:35

we want the audience to think you're

1:16:37

stupid though. Shoes are you happy but

1:16:40

them later. She talks about. In

1:16:43

an interview let's see recently things and twenty

1:16:45

twenty she said oh my word. I thought

1:16:48

that one was going to in my career

1:16:50

and my career had barely begun. I would

1:16:52

show up and say wait a minute, Isn't

1:16:54

the corn supposed to be black in the

1:16:56

scene They're like oh yeah we just that

1:16:58

we couldn't afford it. Every special effects that

1:17:00

would have made the movie cool They go

1:17:02

know we couldn't afford it. Really felt sick

1:17:05

inside. I really thought oh god this is

1:17:07

just going in my career that arthur right

1:17:09

that one and she went on to become

1:17:11

the greatest. Woman: And a history

1:17:13

of the world. So Fianna? Yeah and

1:17:15

I It doesn't sound like she had

1:17:17

a bad experience on the phone out.

1:17:19

When yeah I'd I would not. Are you in? I

1:17:21

Would you Marry August? Probably As or were some. But

1:17:23

she also said like I love the kids they

1:17:25

were fabulous Find a wonderful to be the adult

1:17:27

on a film. When I was what thirty it

1:17:29

was a good time. It helped me to find

1:17:32

myself as a working actress than it was a

1:17:34

very formative time for me. So I think this

1:17:36

gave her. Experience points if nothing

1:17:38

else. arm and. Oh.

1:17:40

Yeah I guess it. I think she's actually the

1:17:42

bright one of the bright spots in it. Riot

1:17:44

has a i would agree totally is an in

1:17:47

my notes I have like this movie be a

1:17:49

thousand times better if she was the star like

1:17:51

of yeah he was like the wind kicking ass

1:17:53

frame lake Obviously we know that because. Of.

1:17:56

All the things we just set of the others such

1:17:58

as been in that imagine if like bird. The had

1:18:00

been incapacitated in some way early on in the

1:18:02

movie. Like how great it would have been to

1:18:04

have her like you don't have. Also tried it.

1:18:07

Logic out logic. The kids ranged units and like

1:18:09

you're coming with me. Lazier. Urban my

1:18:11

early been like i can be your mom and

1:18:13

like pretend like has a lesser remember you're coming

1:18:15

with me as like you know hey kids like

1:18:17

I'm we the if you want a camera. Comes.

1:18:21

At a bar and very

1:18:23

good of hey. What if the

1:18:25

Predator comes back and Linda Hamilton descends

1:18:27

the Children of the Corn Likes: He

1:18:30

defended John Connor. My

1:18:32

my gosh, a little Live A I

1:18:34

might wanna hug corner of every corner

1:18:36

of A. Promise Me! Oh

1:18:41

gosh his leg kicks like open the

1:18:43

door of some like decrepit of like

1:18:45

farmhouse like leave my kids living in.

1:18:48

I like it. Ah but here's did

1:18:50

say that you know he says quote unquote.

1:18:52

she was put through a lot. I gotta

1:18:54

say yes it. oh. Is

1:18:57

she had to sing the song and also

1:18:59

there was that when that dream sequence where

1:19:01

she goes up to the kid industry in

1:19:03

oh and like I'm so Sorry in the

1:19:05

kid jumps up She didn't actually really know

1:19:07

that there was a kid under that she.

1:19:09

they had told her that the street with

1:19:11

hot so they couldn't have a kid there

1:19:13

are and that it was a mannequin and

1:19:15

then of course the kid sits up upright

1:19:17

and so that reaction we get was one

1:19:19

hundred percent real and she had a good

1:19:21

you know. She. Doesn't hold any as

1:19:23

far as I know. Like Ill will towards

1:19:25

that Stein's I'm by just one of those

1:19:28

things. Where it's like oh yeah, just just

1:19:30

completely have fun with your actor than just

1:19:32

do things that they're not expecting. like that's

1:19:34

great again, maybe we suggest otherwise, Maniac and

1:19:37

of But one thing that I thought that

1:19:39

might have been symbolic of is. A

1:19:41

sudden pregnancy. With. The kids suddenly

1:19:44

dropping because you have like this couple this

1:19:46

may be fighting. And. Like I know

1:19:48

it's have a kid suddenly drop in on our

1:19:50

lives in and that becomes a burden sees emotional

1:19:52

about it. He's trying to reason his way through

1:19:54

it and I can see there is what kind

1:19:56

of a little bit of extension of i do

1:19:58

have buses were mode of marriage. Yeah.

1:20:01

Well that's what I think make Sarah Connor

1:20:03

such an interesting character to you is like

1:20:05

this: what he is a mother. What does

1:20:08

a mother look like a new be? Can

1:20:10

you be pregnant and also strong? Can you

1:20:12

give on earth and also you know it

1:20:14

says is makes it so much more interesting

1:20:16

and I feel like there's elements of that

1:20:18

here like they're playing with this concept of

1:20:21

like we're going to adopt these kids but

1:20:23

it's just so like hokey you know it

1:20:25

is already rate of the last five minutes

1:20:27

of and ninety sic com you know is

1:20:29

that what's this I had about. The

1:20:32

whole set up and. This is where the.

1:20:34

Mother. Is is where this resources young circle

1:20:36

asking me questions because it's your head. With

1:20:39

a short story is so the a recount

1:20:41

ability or whatever is nineteen. So they're marrying

1:20:44

each other and having. Sex at like

1:20:46

for his fifteen I think so. Yeah,

1:20:50

And. Okay, just make it just. After

1:20:52

that you know that sort of fucked

1:20:55

up mecca and professor and also something

1:20:57

I think that we would it and

1:20:59

you could square and eventually go mindset

1:21:01

and they do square that and they

1:21:03

do encourage it but you would I

1:21:05

would be interested to get the creepiness

1:21:07

actually have another channel being like yeah

1:21:09

we have to have sex and get

1:21:11

married because we have to continue our

1:21:14

community and we all have to do

1:21:16

we all die at nineteen So yeah

1:21:18

we're we're having sex. It. Fourteen

1:21:20

now because even. Though.

1:21:22

I did you like It's I only Liberia.

1:21:25

Make. Them say That said that it makes

1:21:27

sense in the story and it's actually can

1:21:29

be totally creepy. It the

1:21:31

adding as it say or what. What?

1:21:34

I do think it's less creepy then.

1:21:36

I'm a lot of actual fundamentalists. We're

1:21:38

like a regular adult, married, marrying age

1:21:40

man and a fourteen year old girl.

1:21:42

Like it is creepy that these children

1:21:44

are up and they mention it in

1:21:47

the story. He kind of put it

1:21:49

together and like assume there was a

1:21:51

ten month period and they're a child

1:21:53

was born. But yeah they they really

1:21:55

shy away from that here. And.

1:21:58

They could actually make a point that it's creepy. In

1:22:00

the real world. That actually could be

1:22:02

some the thing that did. That. It's

1:22:04

it's that not necessarily spoken as

1:22:06

like at least they're both fourteen

1:22:08

in Iraq. Killers that yeah many

1:22:10

other thing as going to say

1:22:13

is ah there is very little

1:22:15

done about Corners Fertility like there's

1:22:17

a to It's a strange. Liquor.

1:22:20

In in the movie In the short story

1:22:22

I feel like the idea that the quarantine

1:22:24

for fertility is is sort of in the

1:22:26

back shop have their merits re like. It's

1:22:29

it's it. Would a child solve their

1:22:31

problems? Like What? What? Are

1:22:34

they baron? Is that why

1:22:36

they're fighting in a movie? like there's

1:22:38

all this corn and at and just

1:22:40

know, I. Feeling that? even a

1:22:42

gesture. Towards the idea that. This.

1:22:45

Is about for tilt. There's there's something about up

1:22:47

the fertile land whereas. A king is

1:22:49

pretty safe to say interested in. The.

1:22:53

Ways that this the can did he

1:22:55

have a landscape can be part of

1:22:57

the creepiness. Yeah like he's that he

1:22:59

had. He knows that plants, Can be

1:23:02

scary because they grow although the

1:23:04

other plants if you want to

1:23:06

read the plants specimen with our

1:23:08

oh yeah other Stephen King swim

1:23:10

stories on. Okay so I also

1:23:12

I talk about obviously. John Franklin

1:23:14

who plays Isaac. Who is I think

1:23:16

probably just be. I caught. I think

1:23:18

of when you think of sudden of

1:23:20

the corn I think of Isaac like

1:23:22

this is like an iconic image. He's

1:23:25

an iconic person. His. Luck. Everything about

1:23:27

him is just so crucial. To this

1:23:29

film and I don't think him and malik. I was

1:23:31

will talk about next. This film would not be

1:23:33

what it is and any I mean from what

1:23:35

it is you know, whatever to. Get by into

1:23:37

the back end and yeah, without. Without the

1:23:39

yet without these still. Here

1:23:42

said that this was the hardest for the cast

1:23:44

and that they are dish and more folks for

1:23:46

this role than any other. But when Franklin came

1:23:49

and they knew he was Isaac he he's originally

1:23:51

from Illinois Blue Island did some theater in Chicago

1:23:53

so Chicago Voice and Ah Winter L A had

1:23:55

only been there for about six weeks when he

1:23:57

got the role and he said that he. The

1:24:00

he didn't really quickly because of his

1:24:02

luck and that he has a growth

1:24:04

hormone deficiency which has affected his high

1:24:06

and looking younger than he actually is.

1:24:08

Set a time when he some less

1:24:10

he was actually twenty four and had

1:24:12

a lot more theater experience obviously a

1:24:14

lot more actual professional acting experience which.

1:24:17

Makes a huge difference with gifts and yes,

1:24:19

it's very over the top. And very silly

1:24:21

and of language but also it's amazing and

1:24:23

I love it on. He also was an

1:24:26

actual Stephen King is as Stephen King fan

1:24:28

and he wanted to do the road justice

1:24:30

so he took a very seriously. He researched

1:24:32

a lot by going. To churches and watching.

1:24:35

Videos of preachers and filed preachers and I'm

1:24:37

he became. He was so good on set

1:24:39

that he became known as the one take

1:24:41

kid does. He was like things so seriously

1:24:44

and could just delivered of wines and then

1:24:46

because he did really well. The first couple

1:24:48

times you like. The. Pressure is on. I had

1:24:50

to do deliver. Perfect every time and so

1:24:53

I thought that was kind of like a

1:24:55

cute they burrow. And young for

1:24:57

that total bro. You're simply present it

1:24:59

in the atmosphere movies. An

1:25:01

illusion. I played the walkabout

1:25:03

Shockey. In the Child yeah, early

1:25:05

movies, smoke and god I'm doing. And.

1:25:08

Rapists or that it was so funny as I

1:25:10

love this thing so. Literally the day

1:25:12

before he came to shoot Sheldon or the corn

1:25:14

he was in. A Star Trek Atari

1:25:16

commercial. And he had been a

1:25:18

Vulcan in that commercial and that's why his

1:25:20

hair was cut like that. And so he

1:25:23

showed up to set with his haircut like

1:25:25

that and. You know, the wardrobe and makeup people in

1:25:27

the air folks. They. Liked it so much and

1:25:29

then just told him to keep it so

1:25:31

that's actually a Vulcan hairstyle. That and he.

1:25:33

Has. More than yeah. And

1:25:36

rate like the image at the beginning or

1:25:38

his is kind of looking down. He's got

1:25:40

this great like safe, cast down eyes up

1:25:42

and look where you can see like the

1:25:44

whites and so much it's to. So it's

1:25:46

also very like Jack Nicholson of the Site

1:25:48

right? It's like that Laden dead like what

1:25:50

is it? Thousand miles, hundred yards out, thousand.

1:25:52

Yard stare as much as

1:25:55

alarms their success. As Return

1:25:57

and Children of the Corn Six

1:25:59

also. Or a or worse.

1:26:01

Or. They were. I'm also I found a quote

1:26:04

at said he at a still associated with

1:26:06

this role like people still recognize him from

1:26:08

it and like they will ask to be

1:26:10

moved away from him in restaurants because it

1:26:12

at one nine zero yeah he said like

1:26:14

after it came out it's one of those

1:26:16

things that it's us I kind of tied

1:26:18

to heaven that yeah people would be scared

1:26:20

of him in real life which is also

1:26:22

like kind of sad but I mean that's

1:26:24

because he's so good in this that like

1:26:26

I think he is probably the scariest. Part

1:26:28

of this film for i think that you use

1:26:31

the only kid to new adult and actually believe

1:26:33

is an adult on the inside so makes on

1:26:35

her or your more slowly than playing possum were

1:26:37

like he looks like a little man. Which.

1:26:40

Is a very unruly as like that

1:26:42

the ass creed. It's unlikely. That

1:26:45

about that one is watching it, Which is it. It's

1:26:47

true that most of the acting by the children is

1:26:49

pretty bad and is when they have. These dialogues with

1:26:52

each other about how they're running things like

1:26:54

is. It sounds kind of funny on

1:26:56

us, but then. Part. Me was

1:26:58

Lake on some level. this is how it would

1:27:00

sound of children decided they wanted We're going to

1:27:02

literally play, dress up and grown up and run

1:27:04

a town. They would. Take it

1:27:07

really seriously and sound like they were

1:27:09

play acting. Because. Yeah. They

1:27:11

are play acting. They're pretending to be adults. I

1:27:13

don't have that makes sense that there is a

1:27:16

party I would like out. Do I like this

1:27:18

Reform? It's a no. Actually, this is. this is

1:27:20

how it would be. Yeah, yeah it would sound

1:27:22

false. Like this. It would sound odd. Yeah.

1:27:25

They're out in the Potter and the

1:27:27

Led lights. Repetition of these words and

1:27:29

like the adult biblical speak without understanding

1:27:31

what it is and that is terrifying

1:27:34

because you're on are taking the practices

1:27:36

without understanding what went into designing the

1:27:38

practices even though I don't agree with

1:27:40

a lot of that like at least

1:27:42

there is some kind of connection to

1:27:45

experience they are but these kids don't

1:27:47

have it, they just have the cell

1:27:49

of at the husk if you will

1:27:51

and they're still in the rest of

1:27:53

it with like this evil. The same

1:27:55

kind of with corn cells with corn

1:27:58

cel exactly anything it like what you

1:28:00

said about like he feels like an

1:28:02

old man in a child's body really

1:28:04

works well for this role because it

1:28:07

feels like he who off by the

1:28:09

rose has kind of worked his way

1:28:11

into this child. you know. Mon.

1:28:13

He's speaking for am right. Some against that he

1:28:16

would speak. A low that more

1:28:18

eloquent, a little that a higher level

1:28:20

isn't. Even if you know what he's

1:28:22

saying doesn't necessarily always make sense was

1:28:24

sell it sounds smart. They don't care.

1:28:26

money. Me a break for Cena bites

1:28:28

talking about Leviathan disease like a hard

1:28:30

to molokai and it's like I did.

1:28:32

You suddenly get transform the news on

1:28:34

a by now like completely forgot your

1:28:36

hairs on messed up. I know

1:28:38

that means you came back from the dead. I.

1:28:41

Heard some a describe it as it looked

1:28:43

like he in out went to spare halloween

1:28:45

and got some like the Hairspray silvers or

1:28:47

such. Hope

1:28:49

I like always. Sits. In. Awe

1:28:53

of. Also there's a sweet story where he

1:28:55

talks about how when he was tied to

1:28:57

the court and cross that he just appreciated

1:28:59

that cause of that night and it was

1:29:01

really cold and the midwest that like the

1:29:03

temperature would drop so they talked about a

1:29:05

lot about how like it actually was like

1:29:07

pretty freezing out there when they like when

1:29:09

it became early morning and how serious would

1:29:11

like to director would make sure that he

1:29:13

would go in between shots. Up to

1:29:16

John and like check on him and put. A

1:29:18

blanket over and to make sure that he wasn't

1:29:20

cold and will like personally dislike rapid blink that

1:29:22

around and underscored cross so that he would say

1:29:24

is coast hip that spots with. He

1:29:27

was it's it's freezing tied to a

1:29:29

across there. So he said yeah. Great

1:29:31

memories. And obviously I

1:29:33

think is probably is most iconic role that

1:29:36

people recognize him for any waste. Next

1:29:39

we have to talk about

1:29:41

Gens man of the our

1:29:43

the Malik size Courtney Danes.

1:29:47

Who I don't think it's yummy he's a pretty

1:29:49

is an older dude. not safe to say call

1:29:51

him a baby corn. I don't think. He

1:29:55

was eighteen and right out high school

1:29:57

when he got this role and he.

1:30:00

The story about the dealer Wilde. He

1:30:02

came to the casting session a bit

1:30:04

disheveled, a shaggy hair, and he was

1:30:06

in character. He. Pulled

1:30:09

out a fake nice and grabbed

1:30:11

the casting director unexpectedly taking him

1:30:13

hostage during the the audition to

1:30:15

prove. That he sits replica a

1:30:17

switch didn't make the casting director very happy.

1:30:19

but years as like that the your such

1:30:21

efforts. Of the that's

1:30:24

how we got the role and he

1:30:26

talks about how. That his trailer

1:30:28

was like on the other side of a cornfield in

1:30:30

they would have to walk through it to get to

1:30:32

the man like filming locations and that he would use

1:30:34

that time every day to get into character. He'd

1:30:36

walk through the cornfield saying this is

1:30:39

my cornfield, This is my Cornfields. Was.

1:30:43

Very kinda creepy. kind of. Method I'm

1:30:46

and that he was. He has been

1:30:48

bombs about his larger death scene. That

1:30:50

was something that he was looking forward

1:30:52

to and thought that Malik I deserved

1:30:54

a better and. Also.

1:30:57

I think yeah, just very iconic

1:30:59

character. He's so silly

1:31:01

it. But I also like he's so dramatic.

1:31:03

but when he says when he yells Outlander

1:31:05

like it is. A

1:31:07

man player? is it?

1:31:09

That. Yeah, Anytime everybody anybody brings

1:31:11

us is Diana, Gabaldon and hands and

1:31:14

I write books I have my head

1:31:16

screams out. In

1:31:18

an hour with my voice to that,

1:31:20

that's my Outlander And I also I

1:31:22

don't remember where I read this that

1:31:24

I heard like when he's like grabbing

1:31:27

Linda Hamilton by the same sex. Yeah,

1:31:29

like digging his fingers in. Like I

1:31:31

think that part of the and it's

1:31:33

kind of a double edged sword because

1:31:35

I do not think it's okay to

1:31:38

just like grab a casting director. Like

1:31:40

you gotta have, you can. Be.

1:31:42

Method or whatever. but you also have to

1:31:44

have respect for the people you're acting. weird

1:31:47

you. Now that I think that kind of

1:31:49

speaks to his age, like as an eighteen

1:31:51

year olds, he feels like he's really going

1:31:53

for it, which I think makes his performance

1:31:56

really grade. and that's partly why I think

1:31:58

he feels he feels like eighteen year old.

1:32:00

Sell it, you know, cause that's kind of

1:32:02

what he's doing with this role even though

1:32:05

it's more taking on the role than it

1:32:07

is taking on like a fundamentalist religion. But.

1:32:10

I'm. In. Oil idols. Love a

1:32:12

hot bad boy I think there since I'm the

1:32:14

about his red hair you know. For the

1:32:16

news of Scott Scott Sarkis from Christmas

1:32:18

Story is the I just I believe

1:32:21

Skus ah yes yeah they do not

1:32:23

have a crush on Scots artist who

1:32:25

scary although he hot and as as

1:32:27

as an adult but he has again

1:32:29

bgp me rising sea like James Dean

1:32:31

or something but as he plays this

1:32:34

role really well in that they say

1:32:36

every character thinks the movie like they

1:32:38

are the main character. And I

1:32:40

think this performance comes across where he really thinks

1:32:42

he is the main character whereas argue you know

1:32:44

it would be Isaac would I would say the

1:32:47

main character but he really plays the sleepy tired

1:32:49

takes over to the point we are you in

1:32:51

the al Lander you remember him saying it more.

1:32:54

Ah, So when amount other quotes yeah. Yeah,

1:32:57

that's I than I that? Yeah yeah. like

1:32:59

I was thinking what is my favorite performance

1:33:01

in the movie is Linda Hamilton is Isaac?

1:33:03

Is it Molokai? and I don't Now I

1:33:06

think it's. A Sally

1:33:08

Ham in a. He

1:33:10

I was! I love how over the top they

1:33:12

are. Like. For the hot but it's nice to have. You

1:33:15

know, have that not be. Omnipresent.

1:33:17

Like I say, I mean I do think

1:33:19

that those you performances are not over the

1:33:21

top ray like within the context that a

1:33:23

movie. They're actually completely fucked

1:33:26

Their. That's. What you

1:33:28

see as easy as pie in the

1:33:30

no place like where they are kids

1:33:32

running a town where they have killed

1:33:34

people, bus or make. this is like

1:33:36

how they react with each other. This

1:33:38

is like it to play it any

1:33:41

softer would that would be. Weird

1:33:43

Yes. leg. This.

1:33:45

Is this is who these characters are?

1:33:47

I know, like a. It's. Funny

1:33:49

they get like other other. Things I've talked

1:33:51

about for this. Podcast. It's growing

1:33:53

On Me in retrospect, Played.

1:33:57

Yeah, it's not a good movie,

1:33:59

but. It. I'm those

1:34:01

two performances are really good it makes

1:34:04

me that's what makes me hungry for

1:34:06

a remake it like done well his

1:34:08

leg. There is something here like there

1:34:10

is a reason why it's is sponsor

1:34:12

many sequels but there's also this as

1:34:14

central simple story. Release.

1:34:19

Needs have justice done. Yes,

1:34:22

And that's where I think a lot

1:34:24

of these remakes fail. Is there tie

1:34:26

up? Continue the story. They're trying to

1:34:28

make it a slasher and it's not.

1:34:30

It's really a family drama has we've

1:34:32

got a pair of adults and then

1:34:34

we have a group of kids. It's

1:34:36

just not a coherent family at Lyra

1:34:38

like a nuclear family. Like the family

1:34:40

elements are fighting against each other with

1:34:42

this outside force that as religion. and

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they're so much they are. There's a

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lot of really deep layers there that

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you don't need to over complicate with

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a lot of. You.

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Know last or death of Misery

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loves Lazarus. Have enough let like

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the new one does. And

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a lotta it does. Things that I

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really enjoy do I did enjoy watching

1:35:04

it by. It tries is gonna take

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on climate change. It tries to take

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on like generational change. In.

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I just want this simple story. I just want a

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couple that drives into the sucked up town. You know?

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Yeah, I. Agree. Just

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a couple more characters of. Know. That I

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want to talk about. I'm. Not.

1:35:22

A whole lot but just mention them.

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Rg Armstrong plays deal has a gas

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station dude. Not surprisingly, he shot his

1:35:29

whole role in one day and beans

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and was in an. Hour. On foreign

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of and yes and. I

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really have much to say other than

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bees there. And

1:35:41

what he adds like I like on of like what

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you're talking about about. What? He

1:35:45

adds to that in terms of like the

1:35:47

whole capital as a slew foot thick idea

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about it actually like it more now button

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and also how he feels like a harbinger

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which is a very classic like horror kind

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of character. Delay our don't go down that road

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see I kind of thing. Either

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cream and worn Ralph in A

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or yes exactly a Man Job