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2:06

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2:09

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2:13

Tuesday, casual Tuesday.

2:16

Wednesday, casual hump day.

2:19

Thursday, casual Thursday. That's what

2:21

we call it. And Friday,

2:23

casual Shabbat. The Majority Report

2:25

with Sam Cedar. It is

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Friday, June 7, 2024. My

2:40

name is Sam Cedar. This is

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the five-time award-winning Majority Report. We

2:46

are broadcasting live steps from the industrially

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ravaged Gowanus

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Canal in the heartland of

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2:55

USA. On

2:59

the program today, Heather Parton. Call

3:03

him from salon.com or you may know her as Digby.

3:08

From the blog Hullabaloo. Also

3:11

on the program today, job growth

3:13

blows through expectations. Biden and Normandy

3:15

commemorating D-Day. New report Clarence Thomas

3:17

has accepted millions of dollars

3:20

worth of gifts. In

3:26

the past decade, Bannon

3:29

ordered to prison on July 1st, Netanyahu to address

3:32

a joint session of Congress on July

3:34

24th. U.S. and 16 countries call on

3:37

Hamas and Israel to close on a

3:39

cease-fire agreement. As

3:43

the NAACP calls on Biden to halt

3:46

weapons sales to Israel. Alex

3:51

Jones has agreed he

3:54

must sell info wars.

4:00

to pay off his

4:02

defamation suit. Polling

4:05

shows a slight change in the wake of

4:07

Trump's conviction. The

4:10

Biden administration scrambles to deal with fallout

4:13

from its new, probably illegal,

4:15

asylum policy. Lastly,

4:19

South Korean Samsung workers strike for

4:21

the first time ever. All

4:23

this and more on today's

4:27

majority report. Welcome ladies

4:29

and gentlemen, it is... Casual

4:32

Friday. There you go. Casual

4:34

Friday. So casual. Well, this

4:37

is going to drive me crazy. I got to do this. Oh,

4:40

there you go. Whoop. Yep, there

4:42

we go. Boom. Sorry. Yeah,

4:45

it's all good. Folks, welcome. It

4:48

is casual Friday. It is before

4:50

all the craziness begins.

4:52

Let me just acknowledge that yes,

4:55

summertime now. I have officially

4:57

moved to

5:00

wearing short sleeve shirts as

5:03

I do come

5:06

past Memorial

5:08

Day. Everybody knows

5:10

that Sam wears his short

5:12

sleeve shirts on Fridays. Of

5:15

course, I'm going to move soon to

5:17

my button down short sleeve shirts on

5:19

the weekdays, but it's inevitable. It'll be

5:21

a gradual transition so people don't get freaked

5:24

out about it. I didn't want to... Yeah, Friday

5:26

is the easiest way to introduce this to people.

5:29

Thanks for joining us folks at the end of the week. We

5:33

got a lot of talk about. Just a reminder,

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By all means, it is our members that make the

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6:01

function, frankly. This

6:05

story keeps unraveling. We're

6:08

going to have some cases that theoretically

6:10

will be decided or at least determined

6:13

as to whether they'll go forward from

6:15

the Supreme Court regarding Donald Trump. Aside

6:20

from the general corruptness of someone like Clarence

6:22

Thomas, maybe we'll talk a little bit about

6:24

that later, Clarence Thomas, we've

6:27

seen this reporting from ProPublica. We know the

6:29

story of how this

6:32

developed. Clarence Thomas has received

6:34

millions of dollars dwarfing

6:37

any other number of gifts because now

6:39

he's had to go back and basically

6:41

check off which gifts he's gotten, et

6:43

cetera, et cetera, because he was caught

6:45

not recording these things. Millions

6:48

of guests from Harlan Crow, a

6:50

billionaire who was recruited by Leonard

6:53

Leo, who was the

6:56

former head of the Federalist Society, the guy who's

6:58

basically in charge of taking care of the judges.

7:02

When Clarence Thomas 20 years ago threatened to

7:04

quit the court because he didn't have enough

7:06

money to function, Leonard Leo

7:08

introduced him to what became his

7:11

new best friend, Harlan

7:13

Crow, a billionaire who then

7:15

proceeded to pay for things like his

7:17

mom's house, his kid's private

7:21

school education, and take him

7:23

on private jet vacations

7:25

multiple times a year for

7:28

years. Clarence

7:31

Thomas decided, you know what? My life as a justice

7:33

is not so bad. I think I'll stay on the

7:35

court. It's almost like getting

7:38

your payoff. It's really having your cake and

7:40

eating it too. While

7:43

Clarence Thomas clearly

7:45

... I don't know if he

7:48

changed any of his votes. He just found a

7:50

benefactor who appreciated his work and paid him to

7:52

stay on the court, essentially.

7:55

Sam Alito refuses

7:58

to recuse himself. I

10:00

was going to say, is it

10:02

liberal or is it like you

10:05

have your own job? No

10:11

felt divorce supporter. You

10:15

had the right to vote. Yeah,

10:19

go back. It can

10:21

be addressed to a woman, which is the C word.

10:23

Now, let me just break this down, Emily. You say

10:25

it was you who said those things. It was not

10:27

your now husband. But you say

10:29

Alito is lying here for another very basic

10:31

reason. Can you explain? So,

10:35

I, at

10:39

best, he's mistaken, but at

10:41

worst, he's just outright lying.

10:43

And there was a neighbor

10:45

who even witnessed this and

10:48

witnessed me using that unfortunate

10:50

term. And what

10:52

else I said in that interaction

10:54

is so important. I just want to say

10:57

kudos to this

10:59

lady for owning

11:01

up for saying that word and

11:04

also for deploying it in perhaps

11:06

one of the most appropriate and

11:08

maybe the only appropriate circumstance. A

11:10

righteous slur. 100%. What else I said in that interaction is

11:13

so important. And I

11:19

hope it's not getting forgotten in the

11:21

discourse around the word. In that interaction,

11:23

she approached us, started

11:25

screaming at us, used all of

11:28

our full names, which to me

11:30

felt like a threat because you're

11:32

a stranger. We don't know you. You don't know us. How

11:34

do you know our full names? And

11:37

I just, I started yelling, how

11:39

dare you? Because they both were there at

11:41

the same time. So I said, how dare

11:43

you? You're on the highest court in the

11:45

land. You represent the Supreme Court of the

11:47

United States. You're behaving this way. You're yelling

11:50

at a neighbor. You're harassing us. How dare

11:52

you shame on you? And I

11:55

did use the words. So if

11:58

that in any way, you know, John

14:00

Roberts to stand up and say, okay,

14:03

this seems to like, it's going a little

14:05

far here. And, you know, the guy should

14:07

recuse himself. He's lied to

14:09

Congress. We

14:12

know that he was a source of a leak during

14:15

the ACA, a decision

14:20

back in 2012. There's

14:22

every reason to believe that he

14:24

was the leak of the Dobbs

14:26

decision came from him. And

14:30

the guy is a category

14:33

he's lied to Congress. This

14:35

is a Supreme Court justice. Yeah.

14:39

It's in the idea that

14:41

Dick Durbin is

14:44

not hauling these people into Congress, even

14:47

if he can't impeach them, because

14:49

he doesn't have the votes. Even if they won't

14:51

show up. It's just amazing. Bring

14:54

that neighbor on, not on CNN. Why

14:56

is she on CNN instead of a

14:58

hearing that Dick Durbin is holding, right?

15:00

I mean, she lives right around the

15:03

corner in Washington, DC. It'd be pretty

15:05

easy to figure out the situation. Material

15:07

witness about this political symbolism coming

15:09

from- Exactly. ... political symbolism.

15:11

And now, every reason to

15:13

believe that the Supreme

15:15

Court justice has made

15:18

a deliberate lie to

15:20

Congress. I mean, not

15:23

a great look for one of

15:25

nine people who basically dictate the

15:28

laws of this country. And she

15:30

said it there too, which we've made this

15:32

point before, but she is not one

15:35

of the most powerful people in the country.

15:38

I mean, definitely in the top 50, we

15:40

have Sam Alito. The fact

15:42

that he felt the need to, and him

15:45

or his wife acting in

15:47

a rogue manner, which I have a hard time believing,

15:49

felt the need to not just exert

15:51

power on the rest of the country

15:53

through his immense ability to do so

15:56

as a Supreme Court justice, but to

15:58

do a troll move, not once, but twice. goes

22:00

to the Cayman Islands where if

22:02

Trump wins, I'll be depositing millions

22:05

of dollars as I try

22:07

and relocate and head to

22:09

a secure location. Also,

22:14

Jamaica and Cozumel,

22:18

I think in Mexico, but

22:20

also, you know, great food on the cruise.

22:22

And every day there

22:24

are talks

22:27

from writers. I'll probably interview a couple

22:29

of people. Check it out. nationcruise.com

22:33

slash MR. All right, quick break.

22:36

And we'll be talking to Heather

22:38

Parton. We

23:13

had a little bit of technical difficulties. They have

23:15

been resolved, ladies and gentlemen. It

23:18

is always a pleasure to welcome

23:21

back to the program, possibly

23:24

a longest running guest that

23:27

we've ever had. I

23:29

don't know. There's a

23:31

lot of competition because I'm now getting

23:34

very, very long in the tooth. But

23:36

ladies and gentlemen, Heather

23:38

Parton or Digby. Hi, Heather. How

23:40

are you? Hi, Sam. I'm

23:43

fine. How are you guys? Hanging

23:45

in there. What is long

23:47

in the tooth? Like, what does that originate

23:50

from? I just had that thought. Your

23:53

teeth actually grow when you get

23:55

older. Yeah, you'll see

23:57

really old women or men. Sometimes some of these

23:59

guys. that's

30:00

not going to work. It's just

30:02

an absurd concept. It's

30:04

offensive. It's incredibly

30:06

offensive. But who is that for? I

30:09

mean, who is that for? Every time these

30:17

people, because let's be clear, and I just want

30:19

to remind people of this, I think most people

30:22

know this. There

30:24

is a party that

30:27

is really built around ID,

30:29

the way that people identify.

30:35

They're homogenous

30:38

in this respect. Identity

30:40

politics is completely intertwined

30:51

with the existence of this party. That

30:53

party is the Republican Party. Really,

30:55

90% of its voters

30:59

are white people. Maybe

31:01

that's a little bit low. It may actually be a little bit

31:03

higher than that. When

31:07

they talk about black

31:10

people, brown people, and we should

31:12

say, Democrats lose the white vote

31:15

fairly consistently.

31:18

They attract

31:20

not just white people, but brown people,

31:22

and black people,

31:25

and Asian people, and just a much wider

31:27

range of people. This is indisputable. This

31:35

is just the fact. When the Republican

31:37

Party talks

31:39

about their appealing to black

31:41

people, it's usually in a

31:43

way that is just

31:46

to appeal to white people who

31:49

want to think that they're

31:53

not putting off black people

31:55

in some way. Isn't that

31:57

always the strategy? you

32:00

could see it in, I mean, you guys are there

32:02

in New York. So, you know, you saw this with

32:04

the, with that

32:06

rally that he held in the Bronx,

32:08

right? I mean, this was absurd. And

32:10

it was actually laughable. And New Yorkers

32:12

who were not, you know, Trumpers were

32:14

laughing at the whole concept. But, you

32:16

know, the fact is, is that in

32:18

the Bronx, there's, you know, quite a

32:20

few people who voted for Trump. I

32:22

mean, it's a big, big population there.

32:24

So of course, you know, you can,

32:26

you can bring in a few thousand

32:28

people to a rally, you could do it in my

32:31

neighborhood, you know, even though it was like 92% for

32:33

Biden. So, you know, there's, there's 8% of

32:36

people you could probably get. But, but

32:38

the idea what he did there by

32:40

sort of pretending like the crowd was

32:42

diverse, and that there were all these

32:44

black people from the Bronx, he brought

32:46

in a couple of rappers, two of

32:48

whom had, you know, were under indictment

32:51

for some kind of crimes. Again, that's

32:53

part of it. He wanted to say,

32:55

hey, look, you know, you're like

32:57

me, they all love me, the criminals love me.

32:59

But, you know, the

33:02

whole idea was there to show to

33:05

suburban white people that are kind of

33:07

queasy about all this racism thing that,

33:09

you know, Oh, don't worry, the black

33:11

people love him too. So you don't,

33:13

you don't have to be that that

33:16

is, I think exactly what it is. It's,

33:18

it's like, you know, they're gonna say that

33:20

we're racist. But if we were racist, would

33:22

we have rappers on the stage? I don't

33:24

think so. You know, it's like one of

33:26

those messages.

33:29

And I mean, it's interesting

33:31

about the rallies, and I want to get sidetracked by

33:33

this, but it

33:36

is very difficult to assess a

33:40

candidate's popularity

33:43

based upon, you know, a single

33:47

day or any in terms of like

33:49

turnout, right? I mean, I remember being

33:51

in Manchester in 08 for

33:54

the primaries and convinced like,

33:56

Oh my God, Ron Paul, Ron

33:59

Paul is going to i

34:01

don't know if he's gonna win this uh...

34:04

new hampshire primary in from the

34:06

republican primary but i was like he i'd be

34:08

surprised if he doesn't come in second or third

34:11

because everywhere you went there

34:13

were ron paul signed holders and

34:16

you know occasionally see one from it ron me

34:18

well i go around here and there and and

34:21

it turned out that uh... the

34:23

differences that everybody

34:26

who voted for ron paul also held a

34:28

sign and i thought a

34:30

lot of people it but they did

34:32

not represent they represent

34:34

ten voters or a hundred voters

34:36

or a thousand voters each

34:39

person represented exactly one voter

34:41

and all those people who held

34:44

the sign voted for him but no more and

34:46

uh... you know i think they came in six or

34:48

seven i don't remember what it was but uh...

34:51

it tell me a very valuable lesson about you

34:53

know sort of trying to assess uh...

34:55

because you can that measures the

34:57

debt of support but

35:00

not necessarily the breadth of support but

35:02

i will say this is that all the

35:04

reports i've been seeing from reporters who followed

35:06

uh... trump in twenty twenty

35:08

or twenty sixteen are

35:11

saying there is a massive drop-off of

35:14

uh... of people now i

35:17

don't know what that means really at

35:20

the end of the day i just don't

35:22

know what you what you can tell about

35:24

that but you know trump relied on some

35:26

very very intense voters and if they're

35:29

not intense about him they

35:31

may go and pull the lever against

35:33

uh... joe biden but it's it's a

35:35

different electorate this time around well

35:38

i think that's true and and it's one of

35:41

the things that the pollsters are starting to look

35:43

at you can even see you know that the

35:45

god of all poll polling is the new york

35:47

times cn a poll apparently anytime they you know

35:50

have a hiccup the entire uh...

35:52

journalistic community you

35:54

know skit goes on high alert uh...

35:58

even there which has been pretty

36:00

kind of predicting a, you

36:02

know, pretty grim prediction for Joe

36:04

Biden up to now, is

36:06

starting to make that shift. And it's not because

36:09

of any bias, it's because they're starting to look

36:11

at likely voters. That's what happens as you get

36:13

closer to the election. And likely

36:15

voters, that's a very, you know, that's more

36:17

art than science, but it, and it's a

36:19

little mystifying how they come up with it

36:21

in these days of weird polling

36:24

techniques, because they have to do a

36:26

lot more modeling than actually talking to

36:28

people, because people don't answer their phone

36:30

and blah, blah, blah, we know all about

36:32

that. But what they're starting to look at

36:34

is what the likely voter model is going

36:36

to be. And so you're seeing that

36:39

in some of the coverage and what some of

36:41

these pollsters are talking about. And it's very interesting

36:43

to me, because again, like I

36:45

said, it's more art than science. And from my

36:47

observation, what I see about

36:49

this election is that people, that a lot of

36:51

people are seeing it. First of all, they don't

36:53

want to hear about it. They don't want to

36:55

talk about it. They don't want to think about

36:57

it because it's depressing. Just, you

37:00

know, both sides are just, you know,

37:02

nothing new here, nothing inspiring, nothing, even

37:04

on the Republican side, there's a lot

37:06

of that. I mean, of course, there's

37:08

the hardcore maggots, but I mean, I

37:10

mean, just among, you know, normie Republicans

37:12

who don't necessarily live their lives around

37:14

politics. But what

37:16

I'm, they're seeing this as a rerun. It's

37:19

a rerun of the last election.

37:21

It's not very interesting. It's kind

37:23

of dull and kind of

37:25

depressing. So how that affects

37:28

turnout, it seems to

37:30

me is going to be very much a

37:32

part of the likely voter model that they're

37:34

trying to put together. And you're

37:36

just starting to see that. And one of the things

37:38

that I mentioned this earlier, that's very

37:41

interesting is that Biden and

37:43

the Democrats in general, not just Biden, just

37:45

do much, much better among people who've been

37:47

voting for the last three or four elections.

37:51

People who have voted before, and

37:53

that's including all the way up to the

37:55

special elections of this year, Biden is actually

37:58

quite a bit of a... a bit

38:00

ahead among those people. It's

38:02

only when you add in the new mix of

38:04

people who haven't voted in the past, which

38:07

like I said, includes some younger voters who

38:09

may very well this year, and they have

38:12

their own issues and their own cares, and that

38:14

certainly should be a concern for Biden. But

38:18

if you just look at the like of the

38:20

voters who've been voting, who've been engaged in politics

38:22

and who are the kind of people who just

38:25

vote, right? Like me. I mean- High

38:27

propensity voters is really what it is. Exactly.

38:31

And we've seen this, that's

38:33

why Democrats keep winning all these special elections.

38:36

That's why the, you know,

38:38

that's basically it. I mean, you see

38:41

that in the context of a special

38:43

election. The most obvious person who's

38:45

gonna come and vote

38:47

in a special election is a high

38:49

propensity voter, someone who has a high

38:51

propensity to vote. And I'm going

38:53

to be voting in the one where the least amount

38:55

of people end up voting because I vote,

38:58

whenever there's a vote, I'm on top of

39:01

it. And it's also, it's not one-to-one,

39:03

but you can also, there is a

39:05

very, very strong correlation to follow the

39:08

news, don't follow the news, in terms

39:10

of your high propensity voting. And

39:13

that's all reflected in every, all these pollings

39:15

that you're talking about in the way that

39:17

the Times revisited this. And

39:20

so it is, it's a

39:22

very different type of election

39:27

I think than we've ever seen,

39:29

really, because generally Democrats

39:31

want, we

39:34

want as many people to vote

39:36

as possible, because

39:38

broadly speaking, democratic,

39:43

at least aspirational policy

39:46

and, you know, actual

39:49

real policy when it

39:51

actually happens, favors

39:54

just a wider amount of people.

39:57

Why that, you know, and I think like, but.

40:01

there's all these headwinds, like Joe

40:03

Biden being, you know, not

40:06

necessarily on top of this game, at

40:09

least from the outside, you know, I mean, who

40:11

knows? Frankly, that's not

40:13

a huge issue for me because

40:15

I'm more concerned with like, what

40:18

are they doing at the FTC? What are they

40:20

doing at the Labor Department? What are they doing in

40:22

Congress? Like, all I need is him to sign a

40:24

bill if, you know, or to pick

40:27

a Supreme Court justice and, you know,

40:29

it's not like he's got all the,

40:31

any, you know, presidents got them

40:33

all in his mind. Well,

40:35

you know, Donald Trump is not a particularly

40:39

good at anything other

40:41

than, I'll take that

40:43

list from Heritage and yes, I'll appoint

40:45

these people's Supreme Court. But

40:48

there's all these headwinds. In one of

40:50

them though, but here's another question. From

40:53

a campaign perspective, let's watch Joe

40:55

Biden with the ABC's David Muir.

40:58

Biden is, this

41:02

took place on yesterday. So in

41:04

Europe, I guess, where Biden is

41:06

for the, you

41:10

know, the D-Day. The D-Day

41:12

anniversary. Yeah. And David

41:14

Muir asked him about Trump's

41:17

guilty verdict. I

41:20

want to talk about the way the Democrats

41:22

are talking about this or not talking about

41:24

this. What

41:27

do you think the American people should make of

41:29

this? How important do you think this conviction should

41:31

be in this race for president? That's

41:33

for the public to decide. But one

41:36

thing for certain is stop undermining the

41:38

rule of law. Stop undermining institutions.

41:41

That's what this whole effort is. All

41:44

the MAGA Republicans are coming out saying this is a fix, this was

41:46

a jury that, this

41:48

was a good judge that set up to

41:50

get Trump. Set

41:53

up to get Trump. There's no evidence

41:55

of any of that. None. He's

41:58

trying to undermine it. Look, you got a fair trial.

42:00

trial. The jury spoke like they

42:02

speak in all cases and it should be

42:04

respected. As we sit here in. I

42:07

mean, I think that's a good answer from

42:10

the president. You know, he's

42:12

basically, you know, talking about institutions and,

42:14

you know, the rule of law.

42:18

Maybe we're not applying that internationally in the same

42:20

way that we should be coming out

42:22

of the Biden administration, but strictly as a

42:24

political matter. That seems the most appropriate

42:26

way to respond to it. There

42:29

should be other Democrats elected Democrats

42:31

who are getting a little more aggressive about

42:33

it. And it seems like they've been

42:36

told don't do that. Well,

42:38

I don't know if they've been told. I don't

42:41

I don't know where that's coming from. But, you

42:43

know, there is apparently a big debate among Democrats

42:45

and I don't understand it at all. I

42:48

mean, this is such a layup that I

42:50

can't even believe anybody in politics would think

42:52

it makes sense to

42:54

to not make the most out of

42:56

the fact that the guy running for

42:58

president is has just been convicted of

43:00

34 felonies in

43:03

a court of law. It makes zero

43:05

sense. And I get what what happened

43:07

was, I mean, this is the how

43:09

the phenomenon sort of unfolded was

43:11

the minute. Well, they started it in the

43:13

last couple of weeks of the of the

43:16

trial when they had all those people come

43:18

to the trial. They had Mike Johnson and

43:20

Vivek Ramaswamy and the rest of them showing

43:22

up at their red ties and sort

43:24

of showing support and solidarity with Trump

43:27

and standing outside the courthouse and

43:29

just absolutely flaying the judge and

43:31

the system and the

43:33

rigged process and blah, blah, blah. They

43:35

were setting that up. They were setting

43:38

it up for a guilty verdict, at

43:40

which point the entire

43:42

Republican Party immediately

43:44

had let out a

43:46

collective primal scream. And

43:49

I have to say that it kind of

43:51

surprised, it's kind of shocked me. I mean,

43:54

not I shouldn't have been shocked, but I

43:56

kind of was was just how unanimous this

43:58

was this and They're

44:00

the ones who are being told from

44:03

on high, no doubt about it, that this

44:05

was a strategy. Come out

44:07

screaming the minute that verdict

44:09

comes in, that this was

44:12

rigged, that it's just absolutely

44:14

undemocratic, that the whole system

44:16

is absolutely imploding and we can't let

44:18

this happen and we're going to get

44:20

revenge and blah, blah, blah. Then it

44:23

was an intimidation tactic. And the Democrats,

44:26

as per usual, fell for it and

44:29

started questioning themselves, gee, should we say anything? I mean,

44:31

gee, I don't know, maybe it's a bad idea to

44:33

talk about Trump and his 34 felony convictions.

44:36

I mean, gee, that might upset somebody, so

44:38

we better not do it. Absolutely

44:41

ridiculous. Of course they should do it. And of

44:43

course, and I think Democrats in Congress, you know,

44:45

there's a limited amount they can do in the

44:47

House because they don't have the majority. But you

44:49

know, I don't know, is the Senate sleeping? What

44:52

is happening? The Senate is 100%

44:54

sleeping. 100% sleeping. I mean,

44:59

I just want to ... This is where

45:01

I got this, I mean, a semaphore reported

45:03

on Friday, last Friday, the

45:05

day of the conviction, I guess

45:07

it was Thursday, the next day, guidance

45:11

from the Democratic Policy and Communications

45:13

Committee advised partisans to stress that,

45:15

quote, our justice system worked as

45:17

it's supposed to, shows

45:19

Republican will bend the need to former President

45:21

Trump, but included no specific attacks around the

45:23

facts of the case. It

45:25

does not look likely to be much of an issue

45:27

going forward as well, especially if they're not getting the

45:30

signal from the top of the ticket to drive the

45:32

point home. I don't think

45:34

minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, or leadership

45:36

will use leadership capital to

45:39

talk about Trump, one senior Democratic aide

45:41

said. And the

45:44

... Now, maybe they've changed course from this, but I've

45:46

seen no evidence of it. The

45:49

reason why you talk about this is because

45:51

that's how you get the press to talk

45:53

about it. Of

45:56

course. It's just like this is

45:58

so remedial, it's unbelievable. I'm

46:01

stunned by it too, Sam. I

46:03

honestly could not believe, as I watched it

46:05

unfold, I didn't read that Semaphore article, so

46:08

I didn't get that this was actually a

46:10

talking point or some kind of instruction coming

46:12

from the Democratic Party. It's absolutely idiotic. You

46:14

know, I get it. It's unpleasant. This is

46:17

not a fun fight at all to have

46:19

because you see people like, and I feel

46:21

it too, I see Marco Rubio and, you

46:23

know, people who otherwise we might not have

46:26

thought of as, you know, in the Tommy

46:30

Tuberville School of Politics, you know,

46:32

just kind of ignorant and magga

46:35

and ridiculous, but they're all like

46:37

that now. So you just have

46:39

to accept that and recognize that

46:42

it's going to be mono, a

46:44

mono, hand-to-hand combat over

46:47

through the next few months until the election. And

46:50

that means, you know, you can't just sit

46:52

back and go, well, you know, we don't

46:54

really want to talk about that. We don't

46:57

really think that's important. They're talking about it,

46:59

for God's sakes. And people are listening to

47:01

what they're saying. And if the Democrats aren't

47:03

actually, you know, countering with anything, it just,

47:06

you know, this is why they're saying. It's

47:08

a vacuum. But we did. We've talked about

47:10

this with Democrats all the time. But in

47:12

this case, I didn't read that 74 article

47:15

either, Sam, but that quote about how they

47:17

need direction from the top of the ticket

47:19

seems exactly right, because we covered Biden's speech

47:21

a week ago today, where he came out

47:24

after the Trump count, you

47:26

know, guilty verdict to talk about

47:28

the Israeli ceasefire proposal that they're

47:30

not, that Israel's not agreeing to.

47:37

And he had this pre-planned moment clearly

47:39

when he's walking out and the reporter

47:41

asks him about it and he turns

47:43

around and makes a meme-able face for

47:45

all the kids on the internet. And

47:47

it just was like, why did you

47:49

choose to one, hold this press conference

47:51

now? Because the ceasefire hasn't gone through.

47:53

So it was like a deliberate way

47:55

to be presidential in

47:58

the wake of this conviction.

48:00

and look presidential, but

48:02

two, then not address it at all. It

48:05

seems like that's really, we're back

48:07

30 years ago to a mode

48:09

of politics where it's about, Biden

48:11

thinks the value of looking presidential

48:13

is way more valuable than doing

48:16

politics. And that is just not

48:18

the political reality that we live

48:20

in anymore. No,

48:22

and it's also, look, all of

48:24

this is about attention, right? I mean, you just

48:26

mentioned it earlier, Sam, that when

48:28

they looked, they did this polling on where, the

48:35

presidential race in light of where you get your news,

48:37

right? Yes. And

48:40

this was people who are paying

48:42

attention. I mean, Biden has

48:44

those people hands down, people who read newspapers,

48:46

watch cable TV, watch things like

48:48

this show, people who are politically engaged and

48:51

who actually keep up, no

48:53

doubt about it. I mean, Biden wins those people, but

48:55

the people, there are a whole lot of people

48:58

who are not paying any attention, but

49:00

somehow or another, they have an opinion.

49:03

And they're getting an opinion because this kind of stuff

49:05

just seeps in. It seeps into the culture. I mean,

49:07

you guys know this. I mean, it's- It's almost 100%.

49:10

It's almost, it happens in conversations around

49:12

the water cooler. It happens when you're

49:14

a jigger with your relatives. Somebody

49:17

says something, it happens in just

49:19

overhearing conversations. And it

49:21

happens on social media in places where you

49:23

least expect it. Somebody's

49:26

on Facebook, looking up their college roommate or

49:28

something, and something comes up and you see

49:30

it. And you don't necessarily consciously pay attention,

49:33

but there it is. And so they're getting

49:35

their opinions from somewhere. And the only way

49:37

that you can penetrate that, and there are,

49:39

it's a vast number of people. That's

49:42

what's shocking to me is how few people, I

49:44

mean, people really dropped out of the news cycle.

49:46

You can see this- People are really tuned out.

49:49

I mean, yes. They are really tuned out. I

49:51

mean, I could see it in sort of our

49:53

numbers in terms of like, the

49:55

passerby's on YouTube and

49:57

whatnot. But here's the fact

50:00

that- People don't know, I would bet. I

50:02

think it's going to surprise everyone. You

50:04

can go look this up. The number of

50:06

people who heard about

50:09

Donald Trump's grab them by

50:11

the P word versus the number of

50:14

people who

50:16

heard about Hillary Clinton's emails. There

50:18

was actually less people who heard about the grab

50:21

them by the P word. And

50:23

that is because, no, I'm

50:25

talking specifically during the campaign though. I

50:27

mean, the emails. I mean, cause there

50:29

was literally polling about this. This

50:32

is not conjecture in my part. And

50:36

the polling on this, and I think

50:38

the, you know, why

50:41

that's the case, I suspect is

50:43

because Democrats step back and they're

50:45

like, we don't have to do anything with this because

50:48

this is so disgusting. And so, you know,

50:50

no one's going to like this guy present,

50:53

but they don't realize that like, this

50:56

stuff doesn't travel on its own. That we

50:58

are in a very different, I don't know

51:00

if we were ever in a different age

51:02

than we are now, but we're in a

51:05

different age where media, there's

51:07

so much to compete for

51:09

attention. The media constantly needs

51:11

something new because that's what's going to get

51:13

your most clicks. You know, if it doesn't

51:15

happen in the first 24 hours and

51:19

there's nothing more to that story. And

51:22

if, you know, Chuck Schumer doesn't

51:24

come out on Monday and then, you

51:26

know, Kamala Harris doesn't come out on

51:28

Tuesday, there's nothing new on that story.

51:31

Then they just move on to the next thing. And

51:33

that's why it seems like a year ago that he was

51:36

a convicted felon and he's not going out there and doing

51:38

it. And what they

51:40

do also is they will lard up

51:42

the news cycle with

51:45

other things. So Donald Trump is out

51:47

on the campaign trail and

51:51

he's now like moved the story past his conviction

51:55

into like the question of

51:58

revenge. So now,

52:00

Now all we're talking about is retribution

52:02

and revenge and not the underlying. Hey,

52:04

wait a second. You got convicted. You're

52:06

a convicted felon of an actual crime.

52:08

Here he is with Dr.

52:10

Phil of all people. The

52:15

word revenge is a very strong word, but

52:17

maybe we have revenge through success. But

52:19

that's what I'd like to see. I want to see the

52:21

country survive because this country is not going to survive like

52:23

this. And

52:26

really, the expression, I think it's the

52:28

greatest theme ever in politics maybe because

52:30

it's the biggest movement. We

52:32

want to make America great again, and that's what we

52:35

have to do. And I think you'd

52:37

be very proud of the job we did. The Pope

52:39

has a book out that he's written, and he says,

52:41

we are all brothers and sisters, and

52:43

there must be no resentment among us for

52:45

any war to truly end. Forgiveness

52:47

is necessary. Otherwise, what

52:50

we'll follow is not justice,

52:52

but revenge. And

52:55

that's true even in the cultural wars that

52:57

we're fighting here. I think you

52:59

have so much to do, you don't

53:02

have time to get even. You only

53:04

have time to get right. Well

53:06

revenge does take time, I will say that.

53:08

It does. And sometimes revenge can be justified,

53:11

but I have to be honest. Sometimes

53:13

it can. But is the country better or worse for

53:15

them going after you? I think the country is really

53:17

worse for what they've done, and I think you see

53:20

that when you look at the poll numbers. And you

53:22

see that almost $400 million

53:25

has poured in since this horrible

53:28

decision was made.

53:31

That was a few. Okay, aside from his

53:34

lying about his

53:36

fundraising numbers, he's

53:38

also including all the money that he

53:41

embezzled out of Truth Social into his

53:43

legal fund. That's also part of the

53:45

money. But here's

53:48

my point, is like what the strategy is

53:50

from Trump's perspective. The topic is now

53:52

about revenge. And whether he's going

53:54

to be good enough or not good enough to

53:56

seek revenge. What's the revenge

53:58

here? I'm going

54:00

to force them to also lie

54:02

on their business forms. Here,

54:05

then Dr. Phil shows up on CNN

54:07

saying, this

54:10

is really about whether Donald Trump is a

54:13

good man enough and can get by this.

54:15

Watch this clip. Is

54:19

his inclination because just today, he

54:23

said, for example, that he would indict

54:25

the January 6th committee members, like

54:28

presumptively the members of Congress who were on

54:30

that committee investigating what happened on January 6th,

54:34

are you more

54:36

or less convinced after sitting down with him

54:39

that he actually would follow through on those

54:41

kinds of pledges? Well,

54:45

I actually don't think he will. I think

54:48

this is a situation that, it's

54:51

a process. This is something that I think he's

54:53

had in his mind that there's only one way

54:55

to go and that's to get

54:57

even. And I think

54:59

I've really made some headway with

55:01

him that that is not the way to

55:04

go. I think

55:06

it's a process. I think he'll turn this over

55:08

and over in his mind. And I

55:10

don't think he will do that. And to

55:13

the extent that I have any opportunity

55:15

to lean into this

55:17

with him, I am

55:19

going to relentlessly try and

55:22

get him to not do that and to

55:24

get others to not do that. Look, we need to

55:26

stop this. This is a time where

55:29

America needs to come together, not be playing. Okay.

55:33

Well, I'm convinced, sure. But

55:36

aside from the sort of like shocking sort

55:38

of narcissism that

55:43

Dr. Phil has, that's not surprising. But

55:47

the amazing thing that's happening in the absence of

55:52

something for like an Abby Phillips,

55:54

let's say, to push back

55:56

on, like, because

55:58

there's a vacuum. of people saying

56:01

he got convicted of

56:03

a crime that was, you know,

56:06

did Alvin Bragg bring this

56:08

these charges because the prosecutor

56:11

is a political position and

56:13

they want to bring charges that, you know,

56:15

make them seem like they're doing their job?

56:19

More than likely, that's why every

56:21

prosecutor prosecutes, you know, they

56:23

may, but they

56:25

also don't bring cases they think they're going to lose. And

56:29

this was a case where a jury

56:32

found him guilty. And

56:34

this whole talk of like, will he or

56:36

won't he seek revenge? Well,

56:38

like, wait, how is this in

56:41

any way equal? He's going to make up

56:43

charges and try and imprison people because they

56:45

sat on a congressional committee? That should be

56:48

the question. And the Democrats are

56:50

not forcing that question. And the media is

56:52

certainly not going to do it because they're

56:54

more interested in Dr. Philip. You think, can

56:56

you change him through therapy? I mean, it's

56:58

crazy. Well,

57:01

I have a couple of points on this.

57:03

The first is, is that, you know, the

57:05

revenge thing, I mean, this has been true.

57:07

Trump has been, you know, a vengeance is

57:09

mine kind of guy ever since the 1980s.

57:12

It's all documented. I've written about it probably

57:14

a dozen times over the since Trump came

57:16

down that escalator, because it's a very fascinating

57:18

part of his personality, right? I mean, it

57:21

is it is there. And he's always been

57:23

that. But there's more to it than that.

57:25

I totally like a Roy Cohn figure for

57:27

his attorney general. That's who he

57:29

is. He's like, he's like a mob boss, you

57:31

know, you got to, you know, you got to

57:33

show him who's boss here. And then they'll, they'll

57:35

only respect you if you hurt them. You know,

57:38

that's always been his his credo. And

57:40

it's in his books. And he's given speeches,

57:42

he gave a speech to Liberty University back

57:44

in 2012, where he said,

57:47

you know, two things, bits of

57:49

advice, kids. I mean, Liberty University,

57:51

the religious right, Jerry Falwell University,

57:53

right? He said two things, kids.

57:55

First, always get a prenup. Second,

57:58

always, always get payback. And

58:01

this is all the Christian kids are going, yay,

58:03

that's it. We love Jesus. I mean, it was

58:05

just ridiculous. So

58:07

this has always been part of him

58:10

and nothing surprising in it. And the

58:12

idea that he's suddenly become so overwhelmed

58:14

with anger over what's happened

58:20

to him that he has simply has no choice.

58:22

It's ridiculous. He's always been this way.

58:24

The second thing is, though, there's a strategy here.

58:26

And this strategy is being pushed by the Republican

58:28

Party. And that is it some of

58:30

it has to do with Trump's court case that's before

58:32

the Supreme Court right now. It's the

58:35

immunity case. Remember, Judge Alito in

58:37

his questioning on that brought this

58:39

up. So what do we do

58:41

if we have a bitter president

58:44

who wants to go after his rival?

58:47

Don't we have to stop this cycle

58:49

of retribution? Don't we have to stop

58:51

it? So this thing is

58:53

percolating in their minds, this idea

58:55

that they have no choice but

58:57

to go after the Democrats to

58:59

do whatever it takes because they

59:01

have to stop this. They have

59:03

to stop the Democrats from doing

59:05

this horrible thing that they've been

59:07

doing. And what that

59:09

covers up for everybody is the fact that Donald

59:12

Trump and I don't know if he's got a

59:14

dozen or more, you know,

59:17

former and current associates

59:21

are all criminals. They're criminals. They're

59:23

being convicted. They're under indictment. They're

59:25

being convicted. There was one this

59:28

week in Wisconsin with Chesbrough and

59:30

others. I mean, they're

59:32

pleading guilty all over the place. They're being,

59:34

you know, I mean, this is not, you

59:36

know, if this is a conspiracy, then it

59:39

is the most voluminous conspiracy

59:42

in world history that everywhere

59:44

across America, they've got their

59:46

tentacles out to get Trump's

59:49

from the lowest to his highest

59:51

associates. These people are committing

59:53

crimes. And what this whole thing about

59:55

revenge, and you're absolutely right, they managed

59:58

to switch to flip the script. on

1:00:00

this in order to

1:00:02

cover up the fact that this

1:00:04

is real the Republican Party has

1:00:06

become a criminal enterprise and

1:00:08

this is this is what's happening and and nobody

1:00:10

you know that the press is kind of running

1:00:12

around following them and whatever and when

1:00:14

that when the Supreme Court comes out with their

1:00:17

case and I will not be surprised under these

1:00:19

circumstances to see and you know Sonia Sotomayor made

1:00:21

a comment the other day she says you know

1:00:23

I sometimes go behind my office door and cry

1:00:26

and I'm sure it won't

1:00:29

be the last time and yeah everybody

1:00:31

kind of goes oh geez oh my

1:00:33

god what's coming right it

1:00:36

may be that they do this that

1:00:38

the Supreme Court will is going to

1:00:40

let Donald Trump on his on his

1:00:42

federal criminal charges because of

1:00:45

this idea and and

1:00:47

they'll justify it I think by saying that well

1:00:49

we can't have this cycle of retribution going on

1:00:51

we can't have it and they'll sort of well

1:00:53

we've taken the high road Donald and Trump's sort

1:00:55

of indicated this too at some of his comments

1:00:58

kind of going well and I think it was

1:01:00

in the Time magazine interview he said well you

1:01:02

know if they if they

1:01:04

if the Supreme Court says I've got immunity then

1:01:06

I guess there's nothing I can do to Biden

1:01:08

otherwise I'm afraid it's gonna have to happen you

1:01:11

know he kind of said this right we're gonna

1:01:13

have to do it so you know all this

1:01:15

stuff is sort of circulating out there in the

1:01:17

ether on the right and the consequences

1:01:21

are going to be severe if they

1:01:23

actually do this because total assault on

1:01:26

the rule of law and

1:01:28

with the Republicans basically being

1:01:30

a criminal enterprise immunity

1:01:33

being conferred etc the Democrats

1:01:35

obviously don't have what

1:01:38

it takes to actually use that to

1:01:40

their advantage it's I mean they have

1:01:42

what it takes to use it it's

1:01:44

just all they need is a mouth

1:01:46

it's just that they they're the

1:01:49

and you know it's just they're bad at

1:01:51

politics sometimes I mean I don't know what

1:01:53

else to say Sam I

1:01:56

mean you and I been

1:02:00

talking about this for 20 years. I know. But

1:02:03

this inability to define their opposition

1:02:05

properly in

1:02:10

terms of what's actually happening, and then

1:02:12

use the system that exists in order

1:02:14

to fight it. For whatever reason, they

1:02:16

continue to cling to some old version

1:02:18

of politics that

1:02:23

doesn't exist anymore. I

1:02:26

also think there's something else that's going

1:02:29

on. Because you look at

1:02:31

these, put up, Bradley, do you

1:02:33

have that graph from the

1:02:35

New York Times that showed in

1:02:38

terms of people following the

1:02:40

case of that, whatever it was? I think it was about 1,900,

1:02:42

2,000 people, just

1:02:44

say for the sake of ease. 2,000

1:02:48

people that they had polled

1:02:52

in that Ipsos poll a

1:02:54

month ago. And

1:03:01

now there's how

1:03:03

often you pay attention to politics. No,

1:03:05

keep going. Scroll down. Scroll down, the

1:03:07

other one. There's another one about the

1:03:09

case. Yeah, here it is. Approval of

1:03:11

the verdict. Attention to the trial. Paid a lot

1:03:13

or some attention, 71%. Paid

1:03:16

a little or no attention, 28%. Now,

1:03:21

that 28% also correlates with

1:03:24

those people who don't

1:03:26

pay attention to the news much and

1:03:28

are low propensity voters and who swung

1:03:30

to Biden. Those are the people that

1:03:33

you need to reach. And

1:03:35

if you're Hakeem

1:03:37

Jeffries and you live in New York

1:03:39

City or if you're

1:03:41

Nancy Pelosi and you live

1:03:43

in San Francisco, you

1:03:46

don't understand how

1:03:48

people don't hear about these things. I'm just

1:03:50

using as an example. You're in Washington, DC.

1:03:53

You don't understand how people don't hear

1:03:55

about these things. Because

1:03:58

every piece of media, I'm that

1:04:00

you watch from Morning Joe

1:04:02

at the beginning and then Morning Joe

1:04:04

later in the morning is

1:04:07

talking about it and and so

1:04:10

what's going on we get the wrong

1:04:12

screen up there we just lost it

1:04:14

we became a graph there wait

1:04:17

still seer still seer she's on

1:04:19

the call it just her video yeah our video is

1:04:21

not coming up second one second all right we're gonna

1:04:23

work on that but I think we can hear you

1:04:25

Heather the

1:04:27

the the

1:04:30

notion it's as if they don't understand

1:04:33

what like the in

1:04:35

regards to what the polls say they

1:04:37

don't understand that the message is not

1:04:40

going to just automatically

1:04:42

get instilled in people

1:04:44

that you literally need to provide

1:04:48

it to people all

1:04:50

right we're back sorry folks a little

1:04:52

technical difficulty Heather is back you

1:04:56

were saying I don't

1:04:59

remember well the idea is

1:05:01

like you know the Democrats have a problem

1:05:03

with doing this and they need yeah

1:05:06

it's repetition and it's also like

1:05:08

you need to feed the media beast

1:05:11

and if if you decide you're not

1:05:13

going to talk somebody else is gonna

1:05:15

feed it like a nature

1:05:17

abor's of active vacuum and the media

1:05:19

abor's a vacuum even more and they

1:05:22

will fill it with whoever is providing

1:05:24

them content I mean this

1:05:26

is the thing that like Steve Bannon like

1:05:29

understood back in 2016 you know with the

1:05:32

oh I'm gonna we're gonna partner with the

1:05:34

New York Times with Clinton cash like they

1:05:36

need content and I'm if I'm the first

1:05:38

person there to give it to him and

1:05:41

you know like we experience

1:05:43

that in this show you know I

1:05:45

mean if people send us

1:05:47

a link to content it

1:05:50

is we're gonna look at

1:05:52

it or it's much more likely that that's

1:05:54

gonna have an opportunity for us to use

1:05:56

it I mean we we run across stuff

1:05:59

we pull stuff stuff. But if

1:06:01

people are pushing stuff on it, that's, you

1:06:03

know, everybody in media understands that. That's why

1:06:06

political reporters get a thousand, you know,

1:06:09

you know,

1:06:11

press releases. I mean, this is basic

1:06:13

stuff. It's very basic. And

1:06:15

it's also, as I was saying earlier, I don't

1:06:18

know if people heard this, was the idea of

1:06:20

repetition. You have to bless

1:06:22

you. You have to

1:06:24

repeat things over and over again

1:06:26

in order to penetrate this. There's

1:06:28

a cacophony of news and noise

1:06:30

and whatever good that's out there.

1:06:32

And you have to repeat these

1:06:35

things over and over again. And

1:06:37

the idea, I mean,

1:06:39

this, going back to our original, you

1:06:41

know, discussion here, when the verdict happened

1:06:43

and there suddenly became this big

1:06:47

discussion of whether or not it was

1:06:49

wise to call Donald Trump a convicted

1:06:51

felon. It, you

1:06:53

know, okay. So they all said, okay, well, we'll call

1:06:55

him a convicted felon. It's not enough to do that

1:06:57

on a day, right? And just

1:07:00

say, well, he's a convicted felon now. Isn't

1:07:02

that terrible? You have to call him a

1:07:04

convicted felon over and over and over again,

1:07:06

because that's how you penetrate. And this is,

1:07:08

this is, and well, you know, we don't,

1:07:11

they don't really know what you mean by

1:07:13

convicted felon. I'm going, yes, they do. Americans

1:07:15

do understand the term convicted felon. You don't

1:07:17

need to elaborate. You don't need to do

1:07:19

anything. Just call him that. It's the truth.

1:07:22

And they get very upset by it.

1:07:24

As you're seeing on certain news programs

1:07:26

where Republicans are, they're getting angry

1:07:28

about it. They're like, how you call them a convicted

1:07:30

felon. Why do you keep doing that? Well, and all

1:07:32

they have to do is say it's the truth. He

1:07:35

is a convicted felon. So that, you know, I'm in

1:07:37

fact, we're just going with that. You just say it

1:07:39

over and over again. Look at Donald Trump, you know,

1:07:41

no obstruction, no collusion. You know, I mean, this is

1:07:43

how he does it. And he, Hillary,

1:07:45

I mean, he just, you

1:07:47

know, he's giving you the

1:07:50

clues on how he talks

1:07:52

to his people by repeating

1:07:54

these things over and over

1:07:56

again. I mean, this is, this

1:07:59

stuff is is so propaganda

1:08:02

101. It's so funny. Yes,

1:08:06

it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating because

1:08:08

these people are supposed to be professionals.

1:08:13

Well, I just heard the other day, I heard

1:08:15

Nancy Pelosi, and I don't know who was the

1:08:17

other one. Maybe it was one of her former

1:08:20

deputies, I can't remember, going on

1:08:22

and on about kitchen table issues again. And it's

1:08:24

like, I get it. The

1:08:28

economy is important, big issue. Everybody always says

1:08:30

the economy is the most important issue to

1:08:32

them. And yes, you have to address

1:08:34

it. But this idea that it's the only thing you

1:08:36

can talk about, and it's all about, we feel compassion

1:08:40

for the people who are suffering and blah, blah,

1:08:42

blah. This is like,

1:08:44

how many elections are we going to...

1:08:48

This is all you ever say. In other words,

1:08:50

this is it. This is the only thing you

1:08:52

ever have to say. There's no adjusting

1:08:55

for current circumstances in

1:08:57

their minds. It's

1:09:00

written in stone. Maybe it's

1:09:02

theosified sort of thinking of

1:09:04

people who have... I think so. Although... Even

1:09:07

the young ones are saying the same

1:09:09

stuff. What can

1:09:11

you do? Heather

1:09:14

wanted to talk a little bit more about a couple

1:09:17

other things, but we

1:09:19

covered some good ground. More opportunity

1:09:22

to talk in the coming months. One

1:09:25

thing that is fascinating to me is

1:09:27

that in August, we're going to see

1:09:29

the Democratic National Convention. The

1:09:32

Republican one is in July. We're

1:09:34

going to have a debate in 20 days. The

1:09:37

first debate is in 20 days between

1:09:39

Biden and Trump. It's

1:09:42

important too. This debate is currently really...

1:09:44

It's very important. I think this is

1:09:46

where Biden is hoping to reintroduce

1:09:48

Donald Trump to the country. It's

1:09:52

a great time to introduce him the day he

1:09:54

gets convicted of a felony. Right.

1:09:56

That's the term. Yeah.

1:09:59

That's the term. Oh, go ahead,

1:10:01

Sam. The interesting

1:10:03

thing is that sometime between

1:10:06

this first debate and

1:10:08

the Democratic National Convention, Joe

1:10:12

Biden will be

1:10:14

nominated, the presidential

1:10:17

nominee for the Democratic Party. It will

1:10:20

not happen at the Democratic National Convention.

1:10:23

We don't know the date yet. It's going

1:10:25

to be virtual. It

1:10:28

seems the strategy that the

1:10:30

Biden campaign has is, let's

1:10:34

be invisible on some level.

1:10:37

Let's just make this all about Donald

1:10:39

Trump, which makes the stuff about not

1:10:41

having at least surrogates and

1:10:43

other people come out and say convicted

1:10:46

felon that much more ridiculous. Exactly.

1:10:48

They've got a lot of them who could do it.

1:10:51

You get Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer and

1:10:53

J.D. Pritzker and Josh Shapiro.

1:10:55

These are all big names.

1:10:59

They're second tier.

1:11:01

We're going to hear a lot more about them in

1:11:03

the next couple of years. Kamala Harris, the rest of

1:11:05

them. There's a lot of people who can be out

1:11:07

there making this case and doing

1:11:09

it effectively. I

1:11:13

keep waiting. I've been sitting here going, well,

1:11:15

come on. They're going to

1:11:17

really launch here any minute. It's

1:11:20

getting late, guys. It's got to get

1:11:22

going now. It's getting late. I'm getting

1:11:25

a little bit anxious here. I'm

1:11:27

having some bad dreams at this point.

1:11:29

I'll be honest. I don't think I'm going

1:11:32

to have more than two and a half

1:11:34

hours of contiguous sleep for months.

1:11:38

Until November. Then maybe, I

1:11:40

don't know, I may never sleep again. I don't

1:11:42

know. I'm getting anxious.

1:11:46

I'm getting a little anxious. Well, Heather, we

1:11:48

will check in and see how your sleep is

1:11:50

going over

1:11:52

the next month. It's a pleasure.

1:11:55

Of course, we will put links

1:11:57

to your work at Salon. at

1:12:00

the Uber blog, hullabaloo.

1:12:03

Okay, thanks for having me. You guys have a

1:12:05

great weekend. You too, Heather. Bye bye. All

1:12:09

right, folks, we're going to take a quick

1:12:11

break. We were

1:12:14

supposed to have other guests on

1:12:16

for the second half of the show today. There's

1:12:22

a lot of very strange stuff

1:12:24

going on with this guy from

1:12:26

the birds aren't real. We

1:12:31

had him on a couple years ago. We

1:12:34

had him on a couple of years ago. Then

1:12:36

it seemed like he passed

1:12:39

away. It

1:12:42

seems like he passed away. Well,

1:12:44

that's the thing. I mean, that's why it seems

1:12:46

like he's passed away. And

1:12:50

but maybe he'll be back next

1:12:52

week. There's a strange thing going on with

1:12:54

these birds aren't real guys. And we'll talk

1:12:56

about it next week. But

1:13:00

just want you to know

1:13:03

that's, you know, we're on top of that and

1:13:05

we'll get to them soon. Have

1:13:08

we rescheduled them yet, Bradley? They're

1:13:12

good for next week, though. Next week? Yeah.

1:13:15

Okay. Oh, gosh. Will they be

1:13:17

involved or? I

1:13:19

don't know. We'll see. Folks,

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E S V N. God, I

1:13:46

imagine there's going to be a

1:13:48

lot of talk about that amazing game last night.

1:13:50

There will be on Monday. They were all

1:13:53

like, we're going to play really good defense.

1:13:55

And then all of a sudden,

1:13:57

the first quarter, my

1:13:59

understanding is. there was a record

1:14:01

set last night for the largest

1:14:05

lead going

1:14:07

into the second quarter of any

1:14:09

championship basketball game in the history

1:14:11

of championship basketball games. It

1:14:13

looked like there was an opportunity for the

1:14:16

maps to come back in like the third

1:14:18

quarter, but then they slammed the door. That

1:14:20

was a historic performance by Porzingis for sure.

1:14:22

Celtics do like to play with their

1:14:24

food, but I am going with them

1:14:26

because the John Brown wore a free

1:14:28

Palestine bracelet in January. So he did.

1:14:30

So there, I mean, well, I, just

1:14:32

a quick, I'm very mad at some owns the

1:14:34

maps. Miriam Adelson owns the Dallas

1:14:36

Mavericks. Right. So that is a

1:14:39

big, uh, knock and

1:14:41

Mark Cuban, the libertarian is like a assistant

1:14:43

owner now. Yeah. He's now like a

1:14:46

president or in management. But, um,

1:14:48

so it's tough for me

1:14:50

because I hate Chris Saffs Porzingis

1:14:52

for obvious reasons. Um, and

1:14:55

what's the obvious reasons? I

1:14:57

mean, he forces way out of the Knicks. Uh,

1:14:59

there's more severe personal issues off

1:15:01

the court with him. Aren't there?

1:15:04

Yeah. Um, I will say, I will

1:15:06

say off care. I knew somebody that

1:15:08

knew him and, um, yeah,

1:15:11

I mean, he was accused of rape and

1:15:13

other things, but, uh, like the,

1:15:15

I don't think he's the best person, but

1:15:17

honestly, I'm like almost finding myself like, maybe

1:15:20

I just have to root for the Celtics

1:15:22

because of the more whole Miriam Adelson, uh,

1:15:24

Trump. I will give you many, a

1:15:27

lot of money if you annex the West bank thing. And

1:15:29

we have more, we have an update on that. And

1:15:31

it's not interesting. Um, all right.

1:15:33

So anyway, we talked about, we previewed the

1:15:35

NBA championship. We also, uh, the

1:15:37

NHL Stanley cup final we, we previewed.

1:15:39

Um, and then we talked about that Caitlin

1:15:42

Clark stuff, which we dove, uh, into

1:15:44

pretty deep on ESPN, but we'll be

1:15:46

back on Monday to give updates on

1:15:48

all those series youtube.com/ESPN show. Matt.

1:15:53

Uh, yeah. Left reckoning. Uh, Mike

1:15:55

Preisner, uh, talking about, uh, our

1:15:57

favorite, uh, Tulsi Gabbard, Mike, uh,

1:15:59

red. Tulsi's new book which he's

1:16:01

been working on for like eight years through

1:16:03

like three different political identities and

1:16:05

like several name changes I think it's called

1:16:08

like for love of country now There

1:16:11

are two chapters on how trans people are You

1:16:15

know attacking the country and just to

1:16:17

just two chapters on how trans people are

1:16:19

attacking the country I think there I

1:16:21

think there might be some sprinkles and some other chapters

1:16:23

too, but yes, you did devote two chapters of a

1:16:26

Book that I wanted to read but it was a

1:16:28

file sharing. I don't know. I think it's like 200

1:16:31

pages I need to look that up 200 pages and

1:16:33

there's two chapters in the

1:16:37

the The safety in

1:16:39

the future of the American of

1:16:41

America two chapters on trans people

1:16:44

it is Something

1:16:47

else I mean it's back to her roots

1:16:49

like she comes from a very homophobic Background

1:16:52

it's it's sort of what I

1:16:54

said the mic is like it's kind of like

1:16:56

how Kendrick Lamar had been sitting on how much

1:16:58

he hated Drake for so long because of Sort

1:17:01

of reasons to go along and now he's able

1:17:03

to fully admit how much he hates it And

1:17:06

that's how Tulsi Gabbard. I think feels about capable.

1:17:08

Yeah for love of country is I'm

1:17:11

trying to look at the how much pages it

1:17:13

is here. It's a full I Guess

1:17:16

that that detail is not important enough for Google books, but

1:17:18

yeah We begin in that

1:17:20

Mike prize or patreon.com says left reckoning I

1:17:23

never relate to you more than when

1:17:25

you shoehorn your latest obsession into Every

1:17:28

other element of your interest like

1:17:30

the Kendrick Drake beef is like X which

1:17:32

you've been doing for four weeks at this

1:17:34

point I do know Housewives

1:17:37

of sports I've been doing that

1:17:39

for since like March when like that

1:17:41

came out then we had Fantano on

1:17:43

my politics No, it's

1:17:46

just comforting to know that we share a personality

1:17:48

disorder All

1:17:51

right, we're gonna take a quick break head into the

1:17:53

fun half see you there

1:17:59

Three months for now, six months from now, nine months

1:18:01

from now. And I don't think it's going to be the

1:18:03

same as it looks like in six months from now. And

1:18:05

I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six

1:18:07

months from now than it is three months from now. But

1:18:11

I think around 18 months out, we're going to look

1:18:13

back and go like, wow. What?

1:18:17

What is that going on? It's

1:18:19

nuts. Wait

1:18:21

a second. Hold on for hold on for a second. Emma,

1:18:27

welcome to the program. Matt.

1:18:32

What is up, everyone? No,

1:18:36

me. You did it. Let's

1:18:39

go Brandon. Let's go Brandon. Bradley,

1:18:44

you want to say hello? Sorry to

1:18:46

disappoint everyone. I'm just a random

1:18:49

guy. It's all the boys today.

1:18:51

Fundamentally false. No, I'm sorry. Women's.

1:18:53

Stop talking for a second. Where

1:18:55

is this coming from, dude? But dude, you

1:18:58

want to smoke this? Seven

1:19:00

eight. Yes. Five.

1:19:04

Me. You're safe?

1:19:06

Yes. Is

1:19:10

this me? Is it me? It

1:19:13

is you. Is

1:19:16

this me? All of us are safe? I think it is

1:19:18

you. Who is you? No

1:19:22

sound. Every single freaking

1:19:24

day. What's on your mind? We

1:19:27

can discuss free markets and we can discuss

1:19:29

capitalism. I'm going to go

1:19:31

to the line. Who libertarians? They're so

1:19:33

stupid though. Common sense says of course.

1:19:35

Gobbledygook. We fucking nailed him. So what's

1:19:37

79 plus 21? Challenge

1:19:40

Matt. Positively quivering. I believe 96 I

1:19:42

want to say. 857-210-35501. One

1:19:47

half. Three eights. 9-11 for instance. $6,543

1:19:54

trillion dollars sold. It's a zero-sum game.

1:19:56

Actually you're making me think less. But

1:19:58

let me stay. this call

1:20:03

that our same goes to satire on

1:20:05

top of it all my favorite part

1:20:07

about you is just like every day

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all day like do it without

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a duck hey buddy we see all

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right folks folks folks it's

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just the week being weeded

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out obviously yeah sun's out

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guns out I

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don't know but you should know people

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just don't like to entertain ideas in it I

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have a question who cares our

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chat is enabled I love it

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I do love that look

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gotta jump gotta be quick I get a

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jump I'm losing it bro two

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o'clock we're already late and the guy's being

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a dick so screw him sent

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to a glove like what is

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wrong with you love

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you bye love

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you bye bye