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Welcome to the Manifestation Lab . This

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is your host , kelly Howe . From

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the grounded science to the mystical

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and unseen , we're investigating this

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big experiment we call life and finding

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what really works when it comes to manifesting

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a life that sets your heart and your soul on

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fire . Welcome to the lab

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. Okay

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, welcome back to the Manifestation Lab . I have

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Lynn Rossi with me today . I'm so

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delighted to be sitting here with Lynn . We have so many

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things in common and Lynn , by the way , I've had

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people for years be like do

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you know Lynn , do you know Lynn ? I think we just

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like . Our vibes must be similar because

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for years and years , people have asked me if I know you

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and then , when I started telling people that

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I was going to have you on the podcast , everyone was so excited

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, so so delighted to be here with you . Before

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we jump in , I'm going to give everybody a little bit of an idea

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of who you are and what we're going to get into

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. So I've Dr Lynn Rossi . She

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is a health psychologist and an expert in mindfulness-based

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interventions for the workplace stress in eating

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. Her mindful eating books are

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the mindfulness-based eating solution . In Saver

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Every Bite . I was able to read both

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of those . They are delightful , so

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grateful that you have that work out there . Lynn

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also teaches .

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I'm going to mess this up Kripalu

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, yeah you got it , I got it , yay , so

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she teaches .

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Kripalu Yoga locally here in Columbia , Missouri

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, and Energy Medicine Yoga online to

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people everywhere . She leads yearly

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yoga and energy medicine retreats in exotic

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places . Those retreats look incredible

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. I know , I know it , she's currently

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working on Eat and Energy Medicine Practitioner

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Certificate and sees people individually for

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energy medicine here in Columbia , missouri . So welcome

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, lynn , it's so great to have you on the show . Oh , it's

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my pleasure , it's a lot of fun to be here . Yes

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these are so fun . I'm really

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looking forward to see where this conversation takes us

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. So let's just start with . Let's

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go way back . Okay , so you're doing all this really

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amazing work in the world . You've written a couple of books

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. You've been teaching this energy

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medicine and yoga for a long time . But

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what did life look like before all

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of this , and what was it that

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life threw at you ? That kind of threw

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you into the energy healing

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world ?

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Oh , we have to go way back .

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It's a big question , so let's just jump right

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in , right .

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Well , I grew up here in Columbia , but

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when I was 21 , I left and went to California

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, which was really something I needed to

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do . I needed to get out of Columbia and

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have a change of scenery , and that went really

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well for quite a while

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, and then it didn't . I

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moved from San Francisco down

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to LA and met

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somebody that wasn't that good of a person

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and it was

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pretty disastrous . I met him , married

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him and left him within a year because

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he was a pathological liar , and

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so it was pretty devastating to me . I got

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involved in drugs pretty

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quickly after that . La's a great

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place to get involved in drugs and

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I was really running away from life . I was running

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as fast as I could in any

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direction , but my life and

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I did that for a few years bottomed

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out on that and ended

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up in the hospital with a 30-day

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treatment program that saved my life . But

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I knew the weekend before

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I got treatment that I was either going to die

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or I was going to get help . It

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was really clear to me my body was breaking down

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. I had to get crutches out of the

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closet to walk because my body

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was so exhausted from running

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so fast . I did everything

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that would make me go faster , if you can imagine

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. So I did

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get into recovery . I got into the 12-step program

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, which was great . My real first spiritual

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path was the 12-step program . Shortly

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after that I met Marianne Williamson

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. She was in LA , hadn't

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made it big yet she hadn't written her book

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Return to Love . I know I love her . So

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I got very involved in the course in Miracles and

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shortly thereafter my

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mom gave me a call and

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we weren't very close at the time because we

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had not been very

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happy with one another when I left for California

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14 years previously , and

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so our relationship wasn't very close . And so she

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called me two days in a row , which I thought was strange

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. I thought , oh gosh , somebody died . And

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she said I had this message from God

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that I need to call

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and ask you to see if you want to come back to

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Columbia . And I thought , well

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, okay , and I knew immediately

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. I knew immediately I was coming

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back . I didn't tell her that , but I

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did you felt ? it . I felt it . I

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had a dear friend at the time who , when I

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told him about coming back

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to Columbia , he said oh , if

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you go back , you've got to go to school . He

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was just so clear . I mean he was like an angel

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I had my mom was an angel at the time he

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was an angel to me and he just put

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a thought in my head , planted a seed

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that I hadn't had there , and

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I thank him to this day . I

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know Todd was , you know , my little angel

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and I said , oh yeah , sure you know

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. And I had been working at the time

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with Mary Ann Williamson's project called Project

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Angel Food and working with men

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with HIV , AIDS , and I was really moved

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to work in that area . And

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so I came back when it's psychology and got

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my PhD . I mean so , and

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from then on my life has been guided

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. I mean , it was like I was led

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to live instead

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of die , and I was

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led continuously . From that

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point on , I had the right people

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placed in my path that

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supported what I wanted to do

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. I would set an intention and

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then things would miraculously just appear

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. I was at a little

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Quaker church

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in the middle of an Iowa cornfield

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, listening to a man talk about

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the course and miracles , and

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I thought I need to deepen

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my meditation practice . I

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just had this real clear sense I

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can still see the corn outside . But

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I had this and I thought I need to deepen my

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meditation practice . I had one through the course

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and miracles , but I knew there was a little more

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. There was something in this idea of stillness that

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resonated with me . So I came

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back I was in graduate school at the time and

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the next thing I did was run into

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a woman named Jenny Morgan who became my Buddhist

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meditation teacher . And then , about

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a month after that , I became aware

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of John Kabat-Zinn and the

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really new research that was

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coming out on the mindfulness based stress reduction

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program and my

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path began . You know , I started studying

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in the Buddhist tradition and in the secular tradition

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through John and trained to be

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an MBSR teacher

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, trained to be a Buddhist teacher , and

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so much of my career at the university was

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around mindfulness and I developed the mindfulness

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practice center there and taught these

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programs for many years

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. And I had Susan

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Even , who was the director of the

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Student Health Center , who kept

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sending me on training

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programs and supporting

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me , and so I just

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had people put in my life that supported what

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I did and it was successful

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and , as long you know , it kept being successful

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, so more people kept supporting me . And

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then I went over to the wellness program for faculty

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and staff , also supported

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by another dear friend , to

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teach mindfulness to faculty

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and staff at the university , and that was also the university .

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Yeah .

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And you know , after 10 years I was invited to do the keynote

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at the mindfulness conference in Worcester , massachusetts

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, and people were just astounded at what

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we had accomplished here . And

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I'm like I don't know how it happened . You know , I

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mean I really just put

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one foot in front of the other and

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asked can you help ? And

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it happens . I mean you have to ask

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. You know , and I've had a lot of people come up to me from

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time to time and they're like , why isn't , why

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aren't things happening in my life ? And I'm

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like , well , are you asking for what you want ? Right

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, because I know you talk about manifestation

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and you asked me that question in a questionnaire

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and that just

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came to me because that's what I did do

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. I would show up . You have to show up , you

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have to do the work and you have to ask for what you

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want . And it's amazing what the universe

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will give you if you ask for it . It is amazing .

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It is amazing and just to go back a couple

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of steps , when you have

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those moments with people and

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they're divine messengers , yes

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, there is a vibration to that . Yes

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, it's like you know I was

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supposed to hear that and I know that you've

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probably also been in the position , like I have , where

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messages flow through me and later I'm

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like I cannot believe I said that so

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directly or so succinctly . It

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just doesn't feel quite . I don't know how I wrote

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two books ?

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Yeah , exactly Right , I'm still

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waiting .

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I'm writing a book but , my God , I have not found the flow

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with it yet . Yeah , I was told

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recently that whatever is going to happen

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for me in the next 18 months is really going to like

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tie it together and make it easier

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so it flows . Oh , okay , yeah

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, so I'm setting that intention that that is going to be the

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case . But

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, yeah , it is amazing , when you

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start to tune in and tap in

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, how those people just show up . So

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, going back to that week before you ended up in the

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hospital , at

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that time did you have any sort

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of spiritual beliefs ? Did you have any sort

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of anything like that now ?

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Not really . I mean , I was brought up in the Methodist

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church , you know , but I had kind of I

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rejected everything that stood

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for , anything that my parents stood for

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at the time , you know , and

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I was , yeah

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, just not really exploring anything

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of a spiritual nature at all . So

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it was almost like I died and was reborn . I

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mean it really is . I mean , when I look

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at that person , who I was before

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and then after I died , I

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was literally , I mean , I was seeing angels

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, you know , and I don't know if it was the drugs

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or not , but I really did feel

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like something was pulling me out of the quicksand

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. I basically

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looked in the mirror and saw my face

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and I said I don't know who you are , I

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don't know who you are . I can remember this so clearly . I

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don't know who you are , I don't see me

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, and that

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was it . You know , that was it . And

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the minute I hit , I was in the Beverly Hills Recovery

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Program and I was supposed to show

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up at eight o'clock in the morning and I couldn't get there until

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five . I just couldn't get it together

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, you know . But I finally made it and I slept

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for two days straight and then woke up and

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I was healed . I had

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no desire to use , I had no desire

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for anything . I mean , it was just

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I was one of the lucky ones . Really I was

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one of those ones that didn't have any problem

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with it at all and I got to tell

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you LA is a pretty fun place to get

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sober in .

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Well , that's good yeah .

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Because I mean it's just , it's fun , it's a party .

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It is .

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Because there's all kinds of celebrities that are in 12

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step and they go to the meetings and tell all these

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funny stories . So

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it's entertaining . And I did say at the time I said

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if I'm going to do this , it's got to be fun

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. This has to be fun . I'm

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not on , I'm not on board , you know

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, and I think I'm kind of like that in a

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lot of my life . You know , if it's not fun , I don't

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want to do it . There has to be an aspect

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to it that's joyful . So

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joy is like it's

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my mission . I love that , I know

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. So joy is my , I

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don't know . I think it's my superpower .

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Yeah , I love that .

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And if we ?

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all can have more joy . We

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raise our vibration

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and we manifest . It's easier to ask it's

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easier to receive . Absolutely . It's just , everything gets easier

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and so many of the

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clients that I work with and I'm going to completely

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, a thousand percent , put myself in this bucket but it's

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like sometimes I get so freaking serious about

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things , you know , like serious

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about my work and serious about spreading this message

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, and you know , it's just

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, it takes away the goodness and it blocks

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us from actually accessing the

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universe , god you know .

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So I'm talking to myself here , okay , good

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, and everyone else you know .

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But I don't know if you ever fall into that trap where it's like all

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of a sudden you're like God , I'm just so serious about this . I'm not

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really having fun , but not for

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a while . Good , Good for you

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, that's where I'm headed , I'm headed . Sometimes I

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forget . I'm like what am I doing ? I

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know this is not fun . Like what am I

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doing , oh my goodness . So

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thinking back to like really

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younger years , you seem

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like a very old soul , you know

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. You . Just you have that vibe 100

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percent . And so many people

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when I talked to them when they were children , they had

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a spiritual connection but like the

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church didn't really resonate . Does

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that is ?

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that part of your . Yeah , I didn't mind the church . I

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mean , when I was younger , much younger

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, I enjoyed a lot of activities , Activities

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of the church and that kind of thing , but that's not

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where I think I connected

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to my spiritual

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side . I think it was out in nature

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. I think it was out in nature and

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I do remember having an abiding

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sense of fearlessness

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.

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I'm so envious of that because

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I came into this world afraid of everything

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, which is why I tap Lynn . It's why I tap

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all the time , because I'm a scary cat .

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I really don't remember being I

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was not fearful , I remember

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being just really fearless

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and I just didn't feel

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like there was any reason to be afraid . And

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so to me , looking back , I feel

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like that was my spiritual

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connection in play

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right , and I learned

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to be fearful when I moved to

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San Francisco and LA . I had , I had to

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because there were people that would pray on young

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women , you know , and they

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did , and I was naive , I was from the Midwest

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, you know , and like I trust everybody

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, you know I'm a really trustful person

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.

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Well , and people in the Midwest are different . They

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really are . Every time I'm in a different state

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and you know friends that I grew up with that moved to

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the West Coast or the East Coast . They're like the

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Midwest people are just different

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. They are friendly . They're friendly . You

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know I so I haven't been to LA that many times

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but since I'm thinking about it , my

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first experience there now , I was younger and I

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had a friend who was taking us to all these like bars

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that were kind of posh and really not my

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vibe , anyway , not my thing . But

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I remember being like like

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sat down to get a drink and just started

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trying to strike up a conversation with a bartender

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. He would not talk to me . I wasn't somebody

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you know in air quotes .

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So I was nobody .

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And that was my experience the whole time in LA and

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I was like I hate this place . I'm

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sorry , but like I just was like

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who are these people ? I'm just used to like talking

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to everybody .

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It's who you know you know

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, it's how you look , it's

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the , it's the image that you put out there . It's

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Hollywood .

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And I was 22 and I looked damn good .

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But I wasn't .

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thank you , but you

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know , like I wasn't somebody . Yeah .

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I wasn't . You know a name I would never

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go back and live in LA . I mean , I just wouldn't . I

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loved San Francisco at the time . I was a

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great thing . The move down

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to LA was to marry this guy . That turned out

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to be a liar and you know all

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that .

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And I know that . I mean I have friends that live in LA

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now and they're not in that scene at all .

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They're you know there's also a great scene .

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Right .

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You know I got sober there . I found

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my spiritual path there , so you can

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find it . You just have to be careful about where

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you go and what you do Discerning , yeah

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, very , very discerning , yes

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, okay .

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So you go through all these trainings , yeah

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, and you have all this wisdom . What

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are you working on right now ?

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Okay , so I left the university in 2017

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and I was still doing the mindful eating program

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that I developed and researched

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until about a year and a half ago . A

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year and a half ago , I

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got a very clear message that I wasn't going to do

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this anymore , that this was the last class I was

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to teach . I was also the president of the Center

16:12

for Mindful Eating for a long time and I

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just got kind of burned out with it . You know , I really

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did . It was great , I loved doing it . I

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loved the people that I worked with , but

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I was done . That's another thing about

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me . It's like I'm very decisive

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.

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Yeah , I think I'm not .

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I am not confused . I mean it was

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over . It

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was a good run . I put it to bed

16:35

and I didn't look back . So I had started

16:38

in 2020 when the pandemic hit . I

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was trying to go back

16:43

to Kripala to do my 500 hour continue

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work on a 500 hour training program , but

16:48

the pandemic shut that down . So I

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got an email from Lauren Walker , who's

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the founder of Energy Medicine Yoga came

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over you know my email that she

16:57

was going to be doing a foundations level training

16:59

online of Energy Medicine Yoga

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and I thought , well , okay , I'm

17:03

sitting here doing nothing , let's just do this . And

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it was one of the best online training programs I've

17:08

ever done and I'm pretty particular

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, so it

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had to be good and I

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met a lot of great people

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through this program . I

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learned a lot of great stuff . I started teaching

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Energy Medicine Yoga and then I continued

17:23

to do some of her advanced trainings . Now

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Lauren studied with Donna Eden , who

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developed Eden Energy Medicine , and

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she was a yogi , and at one point she thought

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why don't I put these two together ? I can do

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a little yoga and then do a little tapping , or

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I can do a little yoga and hold my source

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points . All right , you know . So there's a really

17:41

beautiful blend of yoga and

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the energy medicine in the energy medicine

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yoga , Well

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, I did that for a while and

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then about a year ago a little over

17:51

a year ago I taught a

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program that I developed . I love to develop

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programs , Okay , and I

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have no fear in teaching and , you know , in

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sharing things . So I had developed

18:02

a program on changing your habits . That

18:04

I did in a January you know

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it's January , we're setting New Year's

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intentions and I thought

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the energy medicine would be good

18:12

for that . So what I learned

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in the process of doing that was there

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was a lot about energy medicine I didn't know and

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I didn't think I was going to get it the

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way I wanted it through the programs that I was

18:25

doing anymore , and so what I wanted

18:27

to do was go ahead and go straight to Eden

18:29

Energy Medicine and their foundations programs

18:32

and learn from them

18:34

. So I

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ended up finding this great

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place or training program in Asheville

18:42

, because the year one training

18:44

is all over the country . I could have gone to Kansas

18:46

City or St Louis , but I had

18:48

been given the name of somebody to see

18:51

online with

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an issue I was having with my body and

18:57

I had seen this woman . She lives in Bend

18:59

Oregon and she sees you online

19:01

and she really helped

19:04

me heal pelvic floor disorder sacrum

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issues online over Zoom

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in three sessions , so

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I was pretty happy about

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her . And then , when I was looking

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around , I saw that she was teaching

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with another woman , sarah Allen , who

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I had learned from in some

19:23

of my advanced trainings , and

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she's like head faculty

19:27

at Eden Energy Medicine and both of them have taught

19:29

together their best friends for the last

19:31

30 , 35 years . So , and I

19:33

also happen to have a dear friend who lives in Asheville

19:36

who I've met through the Energy

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Medicine Yoga that I could stay with . So

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I headed to Asheville in June .

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Oh my gosh perfect , yeah , so maybe tell us a

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little bit more about energy medicine , like because

19:46

I know a little bit , I know a decent amount

19:48

, but I want to talk like for somebody who

19:50

has no idea what that is . Yeah .

19:53

So it starts with Donna Eden , right

19:56

? Donna Eden , oh

19:59

gosh was a person that was able to see energy

20:02

from a child , since she was a child and

20:04

her family is inclined to be able

20:06

to see energy . So she would see light

20:08

or she would see colors or she would see different

20:10

things inside the body and outside the body

20:12

of many people that she would run

20:14

into . She thought it was normal

20:17

. Nobody told her it wasn't so

20:20

when she was in her 20s and she was diagnosed

20:22

with MS and with some

20:25

kind of heart disease and

20:27

told she should get her affairs in order

20:29

because she wasn't . She was like on death's door , yeah

20:32

another six months and she had two kids and she's

20:34

like I don't

20:36

think I want to go yet , you know . And

20:38

so she started working with

20:40

her own energy . She could see

20:42

energy . She could see where she thought

20:44

it was stuck or stagnant or

20:47

not moving the way it should , and

20:49

so she just started playing around with it and

20:51

working with it and she turned

20:53

80 , like a few weeks ago .

20:55

Yeah , she's so at least last time I saw her she was so vibrant

20:57

Like the energy just pours

21:00

out of that woman oh yeah , it pours out of her . Yeah

21:02

, it does .

21:03

So what she came to learn

21:06

after she did this and after she began

21:08

to meet other people doing

21:10

other types of energy modalities

21:13

, was that what she was seeing

21:15

actually maps on the traditional

21:18

Chinese medicine meridians in the body

21:20

and the chakra system in the body

21:22

and all of the energy systems

21:24

from all these different traditions .

21:25

They're thousands of years old and she can see

21:28

them , and she can see them Validate it . It's like Validate

21:30

.

21:32

It's like a way of teaching it . Then , right

21:34

, it was like , how do I teach this ? But

21:36

if there's things already in place

21:38

that have been known for thousands of years , you

21:41

can just map on to those she

21:43

touched for health , I think was the organization that

21:45

she got involved with and began to

21:47

learn more about what

21:49

she was doing , so

21:51

she was able to take these

21:53

techniques and then teach them to

21:56

others . And then she wrote a book called energy medicine

21:58

and you know , the rest is history . She's

22:03

got you know hundreds and hundreds of practitioners across the world and many

22:05

other people that take advantage

22:07

of her , you know she's a lot

22:09

of free stuff out there to yeah she has a lot

22:11

of free stuff out there . Absolutely yeah

22:14

, so that's how it all came to being

22:16

, you know , many years ago . It's .

22:19

I love her work . I love her work . I

22:21

found it in 2013

22:23

and I got you know . The

22:25

universe gave me this instructor in Chicago

22:28

for my very first EFT course and

22:30

really , might you know , like my introduction

22:32

to healing at all

22:35

, because I went through nursing school I

22:37

didn't really learn a lot about healing . I learned

22:39

a lot about how do we make you feel better , how

22:41

do we support , what

22:44

medication do we give for which thing , but we

22:46

didn't really learn that much about healing and I didn't

22:48

recognize that until I was working as a nurse . But

22:50

in 2013

22:52

, I went to a training in Chicago with

22:54

Valerie Liss and she

22:57

was exactly what I needed because she was

22:59

all kinds of woo , woo . I didn't even know

23:01

I was into that stuff yet , but she was talking about

23:03

energy medicine and she was talking about manifestation

23:06

practices and things that I was , you

23:08

know it like , spoke to me deeply

23:10

and I didn't even know why , but I felt like

23:13

my soul light up when she was talking about these things

23:15

. So I'm like making notes furiously and then

23:17

went home and started

23:19

ordering all the books she said to order and

23:21

so that was my introduction . But I really

23:24

got to use energy medicine a lot with my

23:26

dad while he was on his cancer journey for

23:28

palliative care , for just comfort

23:31

, for pain . He was , he

23:34

had liver cancer and he was just hard on his

23:36

body . He , you know , I grew up or I

23:38

grew up with him struggling with a lot of addictions

23:40

and that was a lifelong struggle for him . Even

23:43

though he had spans of time where he was clean

23:45

, he just , you know he would relapse , but he

23:48

was hard on his body , lynn , he was really hard

23:50

on it . So when he was sick

23:52

, he just he

23:55

wanted to feel better and so he would . He would take

23:57

all of his Xanax , right , or he would take all of his

23:59

. It wasn't Xanax , it was , oh

24:02

, another anti-anxiety medicine . I can't

24:05

think of what it is right now . It'll come to me when I'm

24:07

not thinking about it so hard . But he would

24:09

like take all of it and it would make him feel better

24:11

. He never seemed out of it . You know he would feel better

24:13

, but he would run out of it before

24:15

the end of the month and then they wouldn't write a script

24:17

for him because they didn't want him to be dependent

24:19

on drugs . But I'm like he has terminal cancer . At

24:22

what point . Like you know , that was like

24:24

a whole thing where I was like we

24:26

would give our dog more medicine , we would

24:28

write another prescription for our dying dog . You know

24:30

it just doesn't make sense to me in a lot of ways

24:32

, but I also understand . Right , they're

24:34

trying to not create people dependent on

24:36

medications . Anyway , he would run out of his

24:39

medications and he would have severe anxiety

24:41

and his body would really I mean , he would struggle , he'd

24:44

get nauseous , and I would go over and I would use

24:46

the energy medicine things

24:48

to balance his chakras and even like , do

24:50

things like balance his meridians

24:53

and sedate some meridians and

24:55

flush them and all of that so . I

24:57

got to see it and he always and

24:59

you know as a man who struggled with addiction his

25:01

whole life his response was

25:03

I can't imagine how useful this would be

25:05

in a rehab setting when

25:08

somebody's detoxing and rebalancing

25:10

the body , because he would , we would get him feeling

25:12

better so fast . It was amazing

25:15

. It was amazing to witness and he

25:17

was totally open to me experimenting and trying anything , so

25:20

that was that was pretty cool . But

25:22

yeah , it's , it is phenomenal

25:25

work . So I guess you

25:27

know , are you , you're working with clients

25:29

doing this now ?

25:32

So yes , I am some . We

25:36

, as we learn new techniques , we

25:38

come back home and we're asked

25:40

to practice them . So

25:42

it started out with me just asking people to come

25:44

over . And you know , friends , you

25:46

know like , can you come over so I can practice on you ?

25:48

I'm always here for experimentation , by the way . Okay

25:51

, good , I give myself over to you

25:53

whatever you want to try .

25:54

And then , as the year has progressed

25:56

, I've , you know , run into people that really need

25:58

help , you know . And so

26:00

right now , what I'm doing is

26:02

I give my first session for free . If you

26:04

want to come to see me , I'll

26:07

give you a free session and then , if you felt like

26:09

it was helpful and you want to come back and do more

26:11

than I charge like a student rate to

26:14

people , so I haven't seen a lot of people

26:16

. You know I'm busy with a lot of sounds

26:18

like it . Yes , and

26:20

I'm still kind of in the

26:22

learning , training mode . So

26:25

starting in year three I'll be

26:27

a lot more open

26:30

to a lot of people , but right now

26:32

I'm being fairly selective in seeing

26:34

just a few a week . But

26:37

I've seen , you know , I've been following some

26:39

people over time that

26:42

have some , you know , pretty severe

26:44

or prevalent chronic

26:46

issues and it's just really fun

26:49

to see how much

26:51

benefit they get from it . It's powerful

26:53

.

26:53

It is powerful . It is so incredibly

26:56

powerful . Excuse me , I

26:58

there's . There's

27:00

been several things I've that I've worked

27:02

on myself and had pain disappear , or

27:05

times when I'm waking up at three o'clock in the

27:07

morning and I start working on my gallbladder and liver

27:09

meridian , because that's the time when they're the most active , and

27:12

then I sleep like a baby . I mean it is incredibly powerful . It's

27:15

also really complicated .

27:16

Can we talk about how much ?

27:17

you're learning in these classes , Because

27:20

I've I've looked at them and I've read her books

27:22

. I think I have three of her

27:24

books and I also

27:26

have the energy medicine yoga book

27:28

. Okay , I just I think it's all amazing

27:31

and I've looked at her courses before and

27:33

I'm like , Holy moly , there is

27:35

so much . So , you

27:37

guys , this is , this is like going

27:39

to med school but it's energy medicine , it

27:42

is so complex .

27:43

I know I have a demo test next week and you know

27:45

I have to know all the meridians and the muscles

27:48

to test them with . I've got all

27:50

the source points , all the alarm points , all

27:52

the neuro lymphatics , all the neurovascular

27:54

, the sedating and screening . Oh my gosh .

27:57

I know . I mean , do you guys hear that there's so much ? And that's

27:59

just the tip of the iceberg .

28:00

Oh no , that's just the tip of the iceberg . That is the tip of the iceberg

28:02

?

28:02

Yeah , could you talk about the muscle testing that goes along

28:04

with that ?

28:06

Yeah , so it

28:08

. This is one of the really neat things about

28:10

energy medicine is that

28:13

I don't have a you

28:17

know like a formula , like , oh , okay , so

28:20

this person comes in and I'm just going to follow this

28:22

little you know formula for how

28:24

to treat you Right , which happens a lot

28:26

in medical care , right ? No

28:29

, what happens is is that you come in and

28:32

I find out what

28:35

muscle or what yeah , what

28:38

muscle I can use to

28:40

help you communicate to your

28:42

body , right ? So oftentimes

28:44

I'll use the gallbladder test or the spleen test , and

28:47

so if I use the gallbladder test , you just have your arm out and

28:50

what you do is to see if you've got a testable

28:53

muscle , right ? And

28:55

so you just

28:57

put a little pressure on a person's arm and

28:59

they're strong . And then you pinch

29:02

, you do a spindle spell , spindle

29:04

cell pinch to the muscle

29:07

that's associated with that meridian , and

29:09

basically all you're doing is turning the muscle off

29:11

. And when you turn the muscle off , that

29:13

muscle should go weak , and

29:15

then you strengthen it again and

29:18

you're strong , so you get a testable

29:20

muscle . So I know that in

29:22

general , this is strong , and

29:25

so if I go to other places

29:27

in your body and that muscle

29:29

becomes weak , that means something

29:31

is going on .

29:32

There's a blockage there .

29:33

So you're actually talking to your body

29:35

in the language it knows

29:38

? Mm-hmm , it doesn't know English

29:40

or any other language . Right

29:43

, right , no spoken language , but

29:46

it does have a language and

29:48

energy medicine helps you

29:50

to learn that language

29:53

so that you can test others

29:55

, you can test yourself . You know there's self-testing

29:57

, people can learn how to do . But I've done

29:59

a lot of substance testing with people . I don't do anything

30:02

. That's medication , you know , prescribed medication

30:04

. But people will bring , like herbs

30:06

and supplements and food .

30:08

Yeah , bread Eggs .

30:10

Eggs , yeah , and so it's really fun

30:12

to see what does the body need today , right

30:15

?

30:15

And you can just hold it right and then test

30:17

the muscle and the few body doesn't like it .

30:19

Yeah , so that's a spleen test because spleen

30:21

is the meridian that's associated

30:23

with metabolizing and , you know , integrating

30:26

food into the body . So you always use the spleen

30:28

test to do that and you find out is

30:30

it helpful , is

30:32

it harmful , or

30:34

is it neither . Right , because it kind of falls in

30:37

a three category Some things aren't going to hurt you but

30:39

they're not going to help you either , right ? So you

30:41

want to have about 85% of your food

30:43

in the it's helping me category

30:46

and then the rest in it's

30:48

not hurting , not helping , or it's hurting

30:50

, yeah . Yeah . So it's good information

30:53

, it's information you can use or not

30:55

use . Up to you . You know we all do things that

30:57

aren't that good for us sometimes and

31:00

you'll be fine , you know . But in

31:02

general you kind of want to know what's making your

31:04

body healthy

31:06

, right ? And so you

31:08

can do energy testing like that . But you can test

31:10

the meridians to see if they're under , they're over

31:12

, you can . Also there's pulse testing

31:15

that we've been doing , which tells

31:17

you if the meridian's over or not . And

31:20

there's just some beautiful practices that I

31:22

do and I love to do these . One of them

31:24

is called the black pearl , which

31:26

is holding the neurovascular

31:29

on your head in a particular fashion

31:31

, over a period of time which brings

31:33

about this really amazing

31:36

. It's called black pearl sanctuary

31:38

for a reason . It's like you're going into

31:41

a sanctuary . You know the peace and the calm that

31:43

you get in going to a sanctuary . It

31:45

calms the nervous system at a very deep level

31:48

and

31:50

when your parasympathetic nervous

31:52

system is activated which

31:54

is the rest and digest response your

31:57

body has time to heal . But

32:00

most of us are running around in the sympathetic

32:02

nervous system activation so much

32:04

that the body doesn't heal . When

32:06

you're stressed and running around

32:08

like that , you have to allow

32:10

the body to rest and so some of these techniques

32:13

that one and there's one called deep electrics

32:15

and rejuvenating electrics that I do

32:17

that help

32:20

people's bodies do

32:23

the work of healing , which

32:26

is just really beautiful .

32:27

It is amazing what our bodies

32:29

can do when we allow it to fall

32:32

into a state of relaxation and surrender

32:35

. How much can happen

32:37

, and so fast . It is amazing . Yeah

32:39

, it is amazing , and you're right . Everybody

32:42

runs around not everybody , but the

32:44

majority of us run around really

32:46

frazzled , even when we think we're doing

32:48

okay . Our nervous system is like oh you

32:50

know , and I don't know about you , but I had

32:53

a pretty relatively

32:55

easy go during COVID . But

32:58

I didn't escape the frazzledness

33:00

of that time period , even though I was safe

33:02

in my home and pretty

33:04

much everybody's been healthy in my family and

33:07

I wasn't put through the ringer like some people were

33:09

, but just the energy of that time

33:11

was deeply affecting

33:14

my nervous system , even with all the

33:16

tools and all the things and really

33:19

trying to take care of myself . So I think so many

33:21

of us are still kind of hanging on

33:23

to just the last four years .

33:25

We have , because our energy , so there's

33:27

kind of some principles of energy that I think are

33:29

really important . So energy wants

33:31

to move right and it needs

33:34

space to move . That's

33:36

why , doing the yoga

33:38

with the energy medicine , you

33:41

know you're stretching your body out . You

33:43

know , like when you do a side stretch you're stretching

33:45

out the spleen and the liver and so

33:47

it's like , oh yay , I've got room to

33:49

move here . You know , because if we're

33:51

just kind of crunched up and sitting all

33:53

day , energy's not moving

33:55

right . So we want to do things that gets

33:57

the energy to move and give it space to move

34:00

. And then energy moves in these

34:02

patterns that we've just talked about the meridians

34:04

, the chakras . There's

34:06

all these patterns that take place

34:08

in the body and even

34:10

in our mind , with thoughts , you know

34:13

, our thoughts get patterned and

34:16

sometimes this energy forms habits

34:18

that aren't that healthy . So

34:21

energy can start moving

34:23

in the wrong direction if you keep going there

34:26

all the time . Right , but

34:28

it can be repatterned . So energy

34:30

medicine and energy medicine yoga

34:32

helps you to repattern your

34:34

energy flows so that

34:36

you have a healthier body and mind

34:39

and heart , right . The

34:42

energy has priorities . The biggest

34:44

priority is to keep you alive , but we get

34:46

in the way of that a lot right . And

34:51

then the energy is affected by our thoughts

34:53

, by our environment , anybody

34:56

that we come in contact with . So sure , when

34:58

we're in an environment that's

35:01

really challenging , like the pandemic

35:04

, everybody's gonna feel that you can't

35:06

, even though you're at home and you're not interacting

35:09

. Because I was home too , I work from home , you know . So

35:11

I'm like , yeah , this is fine . You know , I'm just doing

35:13

the same thing . I always do , you know . But it was different

35:15

, you know . I mean , the studio shut down

35:17

and there was things that we had to do differently

35:19

, but overall I

35:21

wasn't as impacted as many people were

35:23

. But you can't help but be

35:26

impacted . You can't hide . You

35:29

can't hide , you can run but one thing

35:31

I did learn is you can run , but you can't run

35:33

. Right , you learned that you did .

35:35

Yes , I've learned it in my own ways as well

35:37

. Still learning , still learning right

35:40

Different layers of learning . I know

35:42

very . Yeah , I feel the onion . I feel the onion

35:44

yes , you know , I really felt

35:46

like a lot of it was global consciousness

35:49

stuff and just being aware , like I

35:51

was so aware , of how the

35:53

energy of the world

35:55

felt . You know , and it was just

35:58

. You can't run from that , you

36:00

know . All you can do is do what you

36:02

can to rebalance and stay

36:04

present and go inside

36:07

. But inside I was like why are you all frezzled

36:09

? So I had to go deeper

36:11

, go deeper .

36:12

Go deeper . Yes , amazing

36:16

.

36:16

I love this . I wanna get back to the Kripalu

36:19

yoga . What

36:21

is specific about that type of yoga

36:23

?

36:24

Well , so Kripalu

36:26

Yoga Center is in Linux , massachusetts , and it's the

36:28

largest yoga center in the country

36:30

, I think , and

36:33

it was started

36:37

out as an ashram and

36:39

there was a student of Swami

36:42

Kripalu who started it , and

36:44

then he brought Swami

36:47

Kripalu over from India

36:49

, so it's named after a

36:51

Swami that came over from India . Swami

36:54

Kripalu was an amazing individual

36:57

and he

36:59

was

37:01

somebody who meditated like seven

37:03

hours a day or something . Actually , he

37:05

was in silence for I don't know how many years

37:08

at least seven , if not 15

37:10

years , yeah , the man was , and so he

37:12

would just write on a chalkboard . You know , don't

37:14

worry , be happy , or something , yeah , but

37:19

his student , who

37:22

later fell from grace , but that's a whole other story

37:24

, as many people do in the spiritual

37:26

world . But

37:29

when it was an ashram , it

37:31

was a very tight community . And

37:34

then they bought eventually this

37:36

big old monastery in Massachusetts

37:39

where they started this yoga center , and

37:41

what happened was the

37:44

Kripalu kind

37:46

of technology , if you will

37:48

, is that when you become very

37:51

, very tuned

37:53

to your own nature and to your own

37:55

body , that the body

37:57

itself will begin to do the yoga . You're

38:00

not doing the yoga , the body does

38:02

the yoga for you . And so I spent

38:04

a month at Kripalu to do my 200

38:06

hour back in . I remember

38:08

it was in 2012 . And

38:13

at the end of 30 days of doing yoga

38:15

consistently , all day , every day

38:17

, it was pretty intense

38:19

in an environment that has got

38:22

so much energy . They

38:26

took us into this big room , huge

38:28

yoga room , and they started leading

38:30

us into a yoga practice

38:33

. And then they just let us go

38:35

and they had spotters all around the room

38:37

and seriously

38:41

, my body took over and

38:44

started doing the poses

38:46

for me . And

38:49

at one point and people in my classes my

38:51

Kripalu class always laugh because they know I have

38:54

this special relationship to the boat pose

38:56

At one point it

38:58

took my body into boat pose and it

39:00

wouldn't let me go .

39:02

I hate boat pose .

39:04

I hate it . I love boat pose .

39:07

I mean I hate it because it's hard for me . I

39:10

need to strengthen my relationship with boat pose

39:12

. Yes , you do .

39:15

But I was just there

39:17

legs up arms in and

39:19

I'm like , wow , this is really

39:21

interesting . And I stayed there for quite a while and

39:24

then it released and I'll calm

39:26

down and

39:28

I can't say that that's happened to me since then

39:31

, but I did get to experience that

39:33

and I really . We try to

39:35

lead from a very meditative place and

39:37

we try to lead from

39:40

the body instead of your mind , because your

39:42

mind is always telling you to do too much , go too

39:44

far , compete with somebody next to you

39:46

, compete with yourself 20 years ago or

39:48

whatever , and it's about getting

39:50

out of your mind and getting into the

39:54

sensations of the body and the breath and

39:56

letting that guide you . It's

39:59

a mindful yoga , it's a meditative yoga

40:01

. I mean , we do the same postures as every other yoga

40:04

class does and

40:06

there is a bit of a flow , but it's not a vinyasa

40:08

flow , it's just putting postures

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together in a sequence that makes sense . But

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it's done . It's

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a real spiritual practice . I

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lead it and it's a spiritual practice for me because

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I know that when I do yoga and

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I open space in my body and

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I come into that place of stillness and

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I move my body and leave space for

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the energy to move . I'm really

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in connection with myself

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and in connection with my real self

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. My real self is not affected

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by the thoughts I have

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or the emotions that I have or the things

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around me . There is a still space

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within me that's still

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and silent and at peace

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. It's the self with a

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capital S . It's not the self with a little S

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. Yeah , yeah

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.

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Oh , it's beautiful .

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It's beautiful .

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This has been so fun . So

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fun I knew it would be . I used

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to have a pretty consistent yoga practice Around

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the time my dad passed away . I really that was

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my go-to for my grief . And

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where you talk about the

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energy wanting to move , it was like I

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got to this place . I was good about letting myself cry

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, but I could just tell that it was like stuck

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, like I was just heavy and I could tell it was grief . And

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it was a really humbling experience

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for me , I think , because

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I knew that I was gonna go through grief , but I

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was . I went into that

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process like I have so many tools and

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I'm gonna be able to take care of myself and I know what to do

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and I have the time to do it . I'm gonna do it , you know

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, but there's a

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certain you know certain amount

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of it . You can't rush and you can't coax

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yourself into . However , yoga

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for me was my

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medicine and as

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soon as I would get on the mat and I would lean

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over , it was like that energy would start to flow

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and so when I , when I

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have people come to me , or if I'm just in conversation

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and they're , they're working through grief and

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that's the thing that I always recommend

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is getting into a yoga practice . I did end up having

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to stop because I was just dealing with some hip and

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back issues and was getting

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more and more unbalanced because I was so imbalanced

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, but I'm hoping to

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get back to that because it is . It is getting

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to that still point inside , and I think I have

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had yoga classes where I feel like I'm

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not really there , but my body's , my

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body is following along and I'm somewhere else

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, and that is the best feeling

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and

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it's like you know , I was a dancer growing up

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too . So so dance was like that too

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, where times where you were just like I'm not thinking

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, but I , my body knows what to do , and

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that was always the time when you we felt

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like those movements were coming through every cell

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in your body .

42:49

And so many people are not embodied at all

42:52

. Okay , I've been teaching embodiment

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my entire career and

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breath . You know I said I was joke

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about getting a PhD so I could teach people how

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to breathe . All right , you know , seriously , because nobody

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breathes . I just gave a presentation yesterday

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and I'm like I don't hear anybody

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breathing . You know , take a breath

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.

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I Think that I I believe

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that that is part of how we contain

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, because going along with that and

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not being embodied it's . It's like

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part of how we contain our emotions , because we haven't

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learned how to let that flow in a healthy way .

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Well , but people don't even know like . So I always teach

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the triangle of awareness , which is how

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does your body feel , how is

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your mind , what are you thinking and

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how are your emotions ? Or how is your heart ? And

43:39

when you ask people that they're like what ?

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No , I know I do . I do

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feel like it's getting better . You

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know , people are starting to wake up and be like

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. Maybe I do need to deal with these Emotions

43:53

and know what's going on in my body

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and it's a foreign concept

43:57

.

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Yeah , we're not taught this . It's not their fault , it's nobody's

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fault . It's like we should be teaching children

44:03

from kindergarten on up and they are in some places

44:05

, but it should be , you know , across the board

44:07

. Kids get it . Kids

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are so amazing . When

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you teach them these skills , they get it . They

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get it .

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They're still so tuned in .

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Oh , they ship so quickly . Yeah

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, I love it .

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Yeah , when I do tapping with kids . I mean it is

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just , they'll be a 10 , just

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so upset , and then five seconds later they're

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like wow , that feels better . Like

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isn't that amazing ? Oh , it's

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so fun to see them shift . They don't have the lifetime

44:33

of crap to their toting around

44:35

. So I think that we're both , you

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know , teaching the same thing . Yes

44:40

, and I love , I love everything

44:42

that you're doing . I am so

44:44

obsessed with the energy medicine stuff .

44:46

I wanted to take those courses for years and kids

44:48

were little and you know , and it's

44:50

a big commitment , a

44:52

huge commitment , yes , it's a huge commitment

44:55

, but I'm so excited to have you here locally

44:57

doing that and teaching it , so let's end

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with that .

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I know you have a class coming up . Maybe

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tell us about that .

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Oh yeah . So if you want to come see me in

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person , I'm going to be doing

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an introduction to energy medicine and

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energy medicine yoga over at osteo

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strong on Monday , april

45:14

the 15th , from 530

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to 7 , and

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Probably want to call over there

45:21

, I would have not have the number on me

45:23

. Oh , here we go . You can

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email Trudy , tru-d

45:30

y g , cm

45:32

115

45:36

at gmailcom and tell

45:39

her that you want to come and

45:41

I'll be talking about some of the things that we've

45:43

talked about today , but also we'll be practicing

45:45

together and you can ask your

45:47

questions , because right now we don't have anybody

45:49

that can call in and say hey , you know , and

45:51

so I know people have a lot of questions a lot

45:53

of times . So come to , that's an hour

45:55

and a half and we can just play around with

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energy medicine . Love to have you

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there , it sounds fabulous .

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Yeah , it sounds amazing . And then talk about

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I know that you do zoom sessions and you teach

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yoga classes , so how can people find yeah , so

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I have an online Energy

46:10

medicine yoga class at 530

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on Wednesdays .

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Or , if you can't come , sign up and I'll send

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you the recording because I do record it

46:18

and send it to people later , because I got people all over the country

46:21

taking that . And then in person

46:23

, I teach at yoga soul , which is over in the

46:25

North Village Arts District , at

46:28

430 on Fridays

46:30

, and so those

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are two things . I also my website

46:34

is real easy . It's just Lynn Rossi , calm

46:37

. It's Rossi with a Y , and

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Then

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I have retreats that I teach in . Right now I'm just

46:43

doing Costa Rica , but I've got a couple of more

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spots for my women's retreat this

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fall In September

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, last week of September , on the Caribbean

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side of Costa Rica , which is in

46:54

the jungle by the beach , and

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it's amazing . I went last year , I'm gonna go again this

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year . Couple spots left there

47:01

, and then I'm just gonna start opening up my

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Pure Aveda retreat

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, which is in Costa Rica , next January

47:08

, february , which is at a beautiful

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retreat center that I've gone to many , many times and

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it's a very , very special

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, rejuvenative , restorative

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.

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I hear such good things , I know

47:21

and last year was .

47:22

It always gets better like every year , I'm sure , better , better

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, better and I have a friend that comments

47:27

and teaches that with me , who is also

47:29

an energy medicine practitioner . So we do

47:31

yoga and we do some energy medicine and

47:33

we mix it all together . We have a half day silent

47:35

retreat , which is really cool . The

47:37

food is amazing , the weather is perfect

47:40

. I mean , yeah , sign me up .

47:44

So just to end the any energy medicine

47:46

. This just popped in my head . She's the clarify , and

47:49

that is that this is something

47:51

to work with a practitioner on Deeply

47:53

held patterns . However , there's a ton

47:56

of free material out there and so much of this people

47:58

can learn on their own . Am I right ? Absolutely

48:00

?

48:00

and I have some videos . Actually , if you go to my website

48:02

, I have the energy medicine , yoga

48:05

, wake up . I have the daily

48:07

energy routine by Donna Eden

48:09

. It's 14 minutes , which

48:11

I do every day , and it's

48:13

on my energy medicine page , real easy to find

48:15

. I have Just recently

48:18

, as of today , put a wind

48:20

down Practice . So

48:22

people go okay , great , I'm awake

48:24

, but I can't go to sleep . What am I gonna do ? So

48:27

Lauren Walker recently gave

48:29

us a Practice for

48:31

winding down before you go to sleep at night

48:33

. That might help within Somnia for

48:35

people , because I know it's a huge problem . So I just

48:38

got that on my website today . And

48:40

If you go to my other recordings

48:43

, I have tons of recordings Related

48:45

to mindful eating and just mindfulness

48:47

in general , and a couple of yoga some yoga videos

48:50

on there as well . So beautiful .

48:52

Thank you so much for being here . This has been so fun

48:54

.

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Thank you , thank you , thank you , pleasure , thank

48:56

you for asking me . You

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