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Let there ever be any confusion. Our show sponsor for the category of both

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furniture and beds mattresses is Mattress Mac and has been for years. Contributed mightily

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to Camp Hope, to our law enforcement causes, to our charitable causes,

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to our friends in need. Don't want there to be any doubt on that

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we do something fun. I'm a student and fan of old radio, and

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old radio would have as we played for you earlier during the Dragnet Radio series,

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a Chesterfield ad and Louisiana Hayride would be you know spawn Pappy leo' daniel

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and was the Flower Mountain Boys or the Flower dough Boys. There would always

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be you know, toothpaste companies retail products would be the sponsor and they'd say,

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you know, the Michael Berry Show sponsored by Colgate Toothpaste. It's the

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toothpaste. So we started doing something with companies that are no longer in business,

1:08

just to have some fun with it. And that's Jim that does that,

1:11

and that's every Tuesday morning to start the show. I only say that

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because because this week was Superior waterbeds. The reason we did that if they

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were still in business, we wouldn't do it because that's a competitor with Mac

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and that we wouldn't do that. But it's no longer in business. And

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there were funny stories about what a big deal Superior Waterbeds was back in the

1:30

day. And we played the ad ramon do you have the ad that he

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had his daughter in it, which was Destiny? Go ahead, do you

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have the ad for that? I wasn't okay, I wasn't in Houston at

1:47

the time, but I'm told there was a moment that kind of stole the

1:51

show when he would mention his daughter Destiny and lo and I got an email

1:56

said, she called yourself a few years ago. I don't know that I

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remember that. I feel like I should have remembered that, but then again, I'm getting old. But Destiny is on the line. Welcome to the

2:06

program, dere Hello. Did you hear us talking about your dad? Or

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did somebody tell you? Be honest, don't lie? So honest. I

2:15

listened to you every morning, but on Tuesdays I go I get up a

2:20

little later, and one of my employees actually heard you. And I woke

2:23

up to a text message say, and they were talking about you this morning, and you're when we're through talking. Email me through the website Michael Berryshow

2:31

dot com and I will forward you a link. Our show sponsor today,

2:36

quote unquote was Superior Waterbed and there's a reference to you. So that's what

2:39

your friend would have said. What did she say? I'm always curious how

2:43

people hear things and process things and tell it. His name is doctor Goldsby,

2:50

and he said, let's see, good morning, Destiny. I was

2:54

listening to Michael Berry to show on my way to work. He opened the

2:58

show by talking about Superior water They said something like who can forget Destiny?

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She was so cute. They told your dad's story of how he got into

3:06

the waterbed business, and then he said you should call So I said,

3:08

okay, call you a few years ago? What business distracted by? You

3:14

got distracted by my business and we never got to talk about my dad.

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Oh well, here we go again. What's your business? Yes, me

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and my husband owned Family Psychiatry of the Woodlands. He's a psychiatrist and I'm

3:25

a therapist, and we have a very large research department. Who is doctor

3:31

Goldsby, who's actually texted me this morning, and outpatient in patient. We

3:37

take care of all your psychiatric needs. So that's our business. So these

3:40

are mds, not PhDs. Well, my husband's an MD. I'm a

3:46

therapist, so I just have a master's level, and then we have a

3:50

lot of nurse practitioners. We currently do not have a PhD. Well,

3:54

Doctor Goldsby is that he does only research. So I will assume you know

4:00

that Tom Cruise does not believe in psychiatry. I do know that. I

4:04

do know that. What do you think about that? What would you tell

4:08

Tom Cruise? I think the world would be a very scary place if we

4:12

didn't have psychiatric drug destiny. You're hijacking my conversation. I want to talk

4:15

about Superior Waterbeds. Okay, Okay, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

4:20

I hijacked the conversation. Okay. So I found this bio on your

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pops from Furniture Today. Did you know Furniture Today was a magazine? Ron

4:28

If you just wanted furniture all day, every day, Furniture Today's your place,

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says Houston. July twenty ninth, twenty sixteen. Barry Kenneth oldbear Ross,

4:38

the owner of the former Superior Waterbeds, died July thirteenth, born June

4:43

twelve, nineteen forty two. Ross made his living as a professional pool player

4:46

before serving in the US Army as a military popo in Korea. Upon his

4:50

return to the US, Ross earned enough money from a stint on the television

4:54

game show Hollywood Squares to launch a waterbed store in Houston in nighteth eineteen seventy

5:00

seven. Fueled by a steady stream of creative commercial Oh, when I finished

5:05

the sentence, will you say, hmm? Okay, that's kind of your

5:11

acknowledgment. But every has to be different than the other one okay, okay.

5:16

Fueled by a steady stream of creative commercials, his company grew to become

5:20

one of the largest waterbed retailers in the US, with six stores in Houston

5:26

and four in New Orleans. No, just one, just one, one

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syllable oh okay. At its peak, Superior Waterbeds generated annual sales of about

5:38

ten million dollars. Joined by his daughter Destiny, that's you, Ross invited

5:45

viewers to sleep like a baby on a Superior waterbed. A naturally gifted salesman,

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Ross prided himself on the success of his employees and suppliers as he mentored

5:54

them and watched them grow. In two thousand and five, Ross closed all

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his stores and semi retired. Yes, he did. A thirty three year

6:09

member of Champions Golf Club. He often traveled to Poem Springs, California,

6:13

and Phantas to play golf with industry friends. Oh you're Destiny Lucas. Now

6:17

it says, I am Destiny Lucas. Now that's interesting. Tell me about

6:25

your dad. So I mean that is that's a summary of his life.

6:30

He had an amazing American story, you know, from rags to riches.

6:34

He grew up in the foster care program in California, went to the military

6:41

when he lost a pool match and decided that he didn't want to be the

6:45

old guy on the sidelines that says I used to be able to play pool like that. Became a military police in the Army, got in trouble because

6:53

he never gave any tickets to anybody, got out, started selling office supplies

6:59

and that brought him Houston, and then he opened up what was California Waterbeds

7:04

and his second ex wife actually got that. Oh fine, yeah, my

7:12

mom was his third wife. I'm his only child. The last round of

7:16

marriages brought step kids. But I was in college. They were teenagers.

7:21

Let's see what else? He was married four times, five times. He

7:27

went back to California and got on Hollywood Squares and came back and opened up

7:31

Superior Waterbeds. How did how did they get on Hollywood Squares? I thought

7:35

you had to kind of be a personality or what's John Wrind? What was

7:41

the guy? What was the gay guy's name that just started the show?

7:45

The really funny guy? Yeah? Oh he was a contest Oh I forgot

7:50

that? Yeah yeah yeah right, okay, yeah yeah yeah yes. Did

7:54

he get paid for that? So he well he won five thousand dollars and

7:59

that's what he opened up Superior Waterbeds with. Liam Neeson was the famous guy

8:03

on the show, and so we always had to go watch Liam Neeson movies

8:07

out of appreciation and gratitude. What year would that have been? I know

8:13

I would have to look that up for you, Michael, I really don't

8:15

know what year that was. That's your whole story. How can you not

8:18

know that. I need to know the year he went on Hollywood because that

8:22

had to be a long time ago. Was before you were born. I

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didn't know Liam Neeson was that big that early. Okay, hold on, we have Destiny on one. I love to hear what they think about us.

8:33

You must be right you're listening to Michael Berry. The following program is

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brought to you in Living color on NBC. Eedy, Adam don Adam,

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Raymond Burr, Charlie Lever, Haavy, Dalphon, Wally Cotton, Rosebury,

9:03

Milton Burle had Buddy Hackett all in the Hollywood Square Man. That's a cast.

9:13

Wow, Milton Burro, Raymond Burr, That's how funny is this?

9:20

Probably the first time I've ever mentioned Perry Mason on this show. And an

9:24

hour later, an audio bit I didn't expect you to play that you go

9:28

find during the break mentions Raymond Burr being on Hollywood Squares and Buddy Hackett,

9:35

Who do love Buddy Hackett? Wow? Interesting Destiny? Yes, sir?

9:45

How did you get to name Destiny? I don't know how to ask this properly, so I say that my response with my mother was a hippie.

9:52

I did ask my father one time, you know, what did you think

9:56

when mom wanted to name me Destiny? And he said that was one of

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the few things I agreed with her. On did he have a hippie size.

10:03

I'm not sure. No, well, I mean he liked to partake

10:07

in things that are legal in certain parts of the country, but that was

10:11

about as hippie as he got. So I used to use no longer.

10:16

I used to use up until yesterday, destiny, as if I was talking

10:20

about somebody being a stripper. But now I'm going to come up with something

10:24

new, like Diamond or something until I have somebody on that seems like a

10:26

perfectly respectable person named Diamond, and I had to come up with something else,

10:31

like Dallas or something. But for now, well, just one better.

10:35

My middle name is Night with a K, so it goes all the

10:39

way you've got to be. No, I'm not but Night. But you

10:45

were DKR. That's kind of cool. Yes, yes, DKR and Sol.

10:50

So you were born and so I saw he he opened the business in

10:56

seventy seven, right, I was born in seventy By the way, I

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don't think it's Liam Neeson. I think you're confusing it with someone else,

11:03

because Liam Neeson didn't make it till eighty one. But it's somebody else that when you hear it, go, yeah, it's the same thing. I

11:07

do the same thing. But I'm curious to know. We'll figure out who it is. We're going to figure this out together. So it's not Liam

11:11

Neeson. You're right, it's from the Naked Gun guy. Oh, Leslie

11:18

Nielsen, Leslie Nelson, Yes, Neilson. Yes, that's exactly right.

11:22

Yes, that's it. Okay, Yeah, No, that's cool. I knew you didn't make that up. I knew you had it mixed up.

11:26

But I do the same thing, so I get it. Who in his

11:31

own right? He was really funny in that. So you're married to doctor

11:37

Marshall B. Lucas, MD, Yes, sir, it says Ramona and

11:41

I were reading about him and we size up everybody's husband as to whether he's

11:46

trying to act like he's better than us, and we got to he is

11:48

triple certified by the ABPN. That feels like a little much. Do we

11:52

really need to be triple That feels like it's showing off, you know what

11:56

I'm saying. Yeah, he is a show off in the psychiatric world for

12:01

sure. Say I married my father. He's just in the psychiatric world.

12:03

So yeah, well I tell my wife she married her dad because I am

12:07

a spitting image. Not He was from Indiana, I'm, you know,

12:11

from Southeast Texas. But we have the same habits, the same ways,

12:15

the same intro. We would we would send books to each other. We

12:18

you know, uh, we would sit and drink brown water. I mean,

12:22

it's funny. You either you either marry the exact opposite of your dad

12:28

or someone just like your dad. I find those two to be to be

12:31

the case. Uh where did you meet Marshall? I went to work as

12:35

a therapist at Cypress Greek Psychiatric Hospital and he was medical director. Oh my

12:41

goodness, you're not situation. Okay, how did that come about? Now

12:46

that we're in this, we have to be honest. You know, him

12:50

and my dad were friends. They I actually dropped his name to get the

12:54

job, to get the interview. But the first time I met him,

12:58

he was over a patient doing ec I walked up and said, I'm Destiny

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Barry's daughter, and he said, Barry's Daughter's not supposed to look like that.

13:05

That's what he thought in his head. My dad actually picked up that

13:09

he was interested in me before I did, because I was young and naive

13:13

and he would, you know, take special interest in my career. And

13:16

Dad started scratching his head a little bit. He was very perceptive that way.

13:22

And then he asked me the Champions. He told me the Greens that

13:24

Champions looked great. Dad actually helped get him in as a member to Champions,

13:28

because Jackie Burker, you were just speaking of a couple weeks ago.

13:31

You had to have an interview with him, and you had to have members

13:35

that recommend you, said, Dad recommended him. So when he became a

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member, he said, let me take you to dinner there, and I

13:41

thought it was professional. He wanted me to come work for me, But

13:45

by the end of the night he said that he wanted to date me,

13:48

and then he had to go through my father. And that was a funny

13:50

story in itself because he tried to tell my dad that he was just kind

13:54

of interested, and my dad called bs on that very quickly and all.

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And we were married a year ago. We have two children. I have four older step children too that we had custody of and I raised. They're

14:07

all grown now. And then we have a twelve year old boy who is actually named Marshall Ross Lucas. He goes by Ross. And my daughter is

14:16

Barry Knight with berries with an eye, and so we have Barry and Ross

14:20

b A R I B A R R I Okay, and then night like

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your middle name right with a K with a K. Do you notice that

14:31

comes up every time? With a cat. I don't want you to think it's like where you sleep. No, it's very different. It's a different

14:35

night. Yeah, and pronounce a different after a fruit like your last dame.

14:41

Yes, well, hey wow, how wow this we're putting you on

14:45

the hot seat here, you're on the hot see with your last day.

14:48

But people like to think that I spelled it like a fruit. I'm like, she's not a fruit. So you know, we don't have a show

14:52

sponsor. That is a psychiatry office? Are y'all a family psychiatry business?

15:01

Yes, our name is Family Psychiatry of the World. I know, but but I mean, I guess that makes sense. I'm looking at you.

15:07

So how do people is it a primary referral? How do people come to you? Oh, you can just call us and come and you don't have

15:13

to have it unless you have an HMO, then you might have to have

15:16

that. So how does somebody know they need psychiatric help? Usually their life

15:22

is crumbling. They just can't handle the day to day task. You know,

15:26

sleeping too much, or their manic shopping, you know, talking rapid

15:33

talking. Just usually your family says something's wrong. You need to get help.

15:37

And when they come to you, are they coming to you to diagnose,

15:43

to understand what's wrong with them? Are they coming to you to make

15:48

it better? Give me a drug to make it better? Most well,

15:52

we're psychiatric, so we mainly handle medication, you know, but we will

15:58

turn you away if we don't think you need medicine. The best combination is

16:03

therapy and medicine. Though, what is the number one most diagnosed drug out

16:07

of your clinic? I hate to say it, ADHD meds. No,

16:12

that doesn't surprise me. I would actually fully expect that at which one.

16:18

After all, Vince, how much of that vibance is women wanting to lose

16:26

weight? Because I saw that a few years ago before the hozempic Craze.

16:30

I saw women taking vivance for ADHD. Who I would have said, yes,

16:33

you need vivance, right ADHD. But the side effect being as it

16:37

is with all of those with that category of drugs, that they were losing

16:41

weight. And then it kind of goes through the women's groups of hey,

16:44

you don't get to have events, right. I couldn't put a percentage on

16:48

it. We obviously don't encourage that. What happens is they get a they

16:52

get that effect at the beginning, but that slowly wears off and then they

16:56

find that it's affecting the rest of their life. So they will stay on

17:00

it for a weight loss drug for very long. But do they stay on

17:03

it for attention disorder? No? No, because what you find is when

17:08

you first get on an ADHD drug is you have hyper attention, right,

17:12

But then you realize after a couple of months that that you're not getting the

17:17

same results that you think you're getting. At first, you think you're very

17:19

productive, but you're really not. If you don't need it. Now,

17:25

if you need it, then you become very productive. But you'll discover that

17:29

you know, yeah, I cleaned my house for four hours, but I

17:32

didn't get anything else done. So everything else got put on the back burner.

17:36

And you can't do that. You have to prioritize and get everything done as a woman does. Riddling still get prescribed. That was a big drug

17:42

for a while. Very yeah, very little. We just have better mechanisms.

17:47

I mean, if you look at it. They're all kind of the same. It's just the delivery system five ans is the same. Well,

17:52

they have a new Zimpic now called pep Around or something. Find the name

18:00

for it. Hold with me for just a moment. I want to get to your dad. I'm fascinated by the whole country. So I apologize I

18:04

did it again, but I want to talk about your dad coming up.

18:26

All right, back to the matter of money, lovely, say Paul,

18:30

when is it a good idea to put your pantyhose in the microwave oven for

18:33

about two minutes and your house is surrounded by the police. Studies at the

18:48

University of Wisconsin's show that you'll probably live longer if you love only one man

18:53

or woman at a time. But it is all right to all their night.

19:03

Does Mark Spitz believe swimming in the nude helps you go faster? We

19:10

say, he's here to stare of the Paul Land highlights. I can remember

19:18

watching Hollywood Squarees with my grandmother, one of her favorite shows. I remember

19:22

sitting there and I didn't think it was as funny as she did, but

19:26

she laughed, and that made me laugh because a lot of it was very

19:29

adult humor. Destiny Lucas is our guest. Her father was the founder of

19:36

Superior Waterbeds. How did he decide on the waterbed category because that was kind

19:41

of a niche thing that had a niche period of a set period of time.

19:45

You know. He sold office supplies, calculators, telephones, and there

19:52

was a little hole in the wall waterbeds company in la and he walked in

19:56

and he decided he was going to learn everything he needed to know about waterbeds

20:00

because that was how he was going to make his money. And he did

20:06

a lot of research and decided Houston was up and coming town and that's where

20:10

he was going to do it at. And where did he move in Houston? We lived in Dickinson when I was born, so I think he lived

20:19

in, you know, Houston, Houston. I know he lived in an

20:22

apartment complex that was adults only, and I heard about the wild and crazy

20:26

parties they had. Of course they outlawed those. But he met my mom

20:30

because she came in and put a waterbed on layaway in at California Waterbeds,

20:36

the original waterbed store. And they lived in Dickinson and then we built a

20:41

house in Tomball and he passed away. He lived at Champions. You know

20:48

what's crazy. I hear these stories about those adult those adult apartment complexes and

20:55

the swimming pools, which were nothing compared to how nice swimming pools are now.

20:59

But at the time he had a swimming pool and the rollicking parties they

21:02

would have. And you think about this, that's to say, nineteen seventy,

21:06

which is fifty four years ago, the men and women were twenty to

21:11

twenty five. Do the math. That means my mom's agent. Now,

21:15

my mom lived in a small town. But when I talked to sweet little

21:18

old ladies, you think that they were always a sweet little old lady.

21:22

Some of them were in the swimming pool in a bikini, right, Yes,

21:26

yes they were, Yes they were. I mean that's just crazy to

21:30

think about. And you see some sweet little old man shuffling along and you

21:33

don't realize back in the day he was running around with his shirt off,

21:37

throwing the beach ball in the pool and grabbing schlit small liquor and trying to

21:45

make out with girls. I mean, that's just crazy to think about,

21:48

but it's true. Oh yeah, No, my parents had a lot of

21:51

fun in the eighties in the Houston area for sure. So did you grow

21:55

up in the business well, other than being on commercials? No, he

22:00

he really, there's a there's a good clip. The Channel thirteen did a

22:04

week expose. Every night was a different person. One night was Metrosmack,

22:08

one night was my dad. And they asked him if he wanted to give

22:11

me the business, and he said, she's sure enough, smart enough to

22:15

do that. But I don't know that waterbds will you know, be here

22:18

forever? So I didn't. I didn't learn the business that way. He

22:22

kind of had a premonition that they wouldn't stay around forever. And when he

22:27

started, when the attachment companies went into bankruptcy and the manufacturers went in bankruptcy,

22:33

he just let each store continue as long as they were profitable, and

22:37

then as they weren't profitable, he shut him down and retired. How many

22:41

did he have? And I think thirteen was the peak? Were they were

22:45

they well beyond Houston? Oh yeah, we got all the way to Kansas

22:51

City, Louisiana and Kansas City, and that was that was probably a detriment.

22:56

We probably should not have gone to Kansas City. Would I talked to

23:00

people who worked for Dad during the time, he expanded too much and just

23:03

got too it got too far away from him. But I see so many

23:07

people do that. There is such it's a little bit humorous, a little

23:11

ambition, you know, have to keep growing, have to keep growing,

23:14

and they lose sight of what was making and they tried to do it too

23:17

fast. Why do you think waterbeds went under? Why do you think because

23:21

like everybody had one and then nobody had one. So my dad's protege,

23:26

Mike Hall, he said that they started doing research and really moving waterbeds was

23:33

a real problem, and so they started calling people that had ads that were

23:37

selling their their waterbed secondhand and they're like, yeah, I couldn't sell it.

23:41

I ended up just popping it. And he said, that's when we knew we had a problem. Dad really tried to make the transition. He

23:48

was the first ones in Houston, if I remember correctly, that got the

23:52

contract for temp Repedic, but people wouldn't come to us for their temp Repedick

23:56

because we were known as the waterbed store. He went across the country to

24:00

other waterbed companies that were folding, and if they kept their name, then

24:04

they were still associated with waterbeds and they didn't do well. If they got

24:08

rid of their name completely, they lost all the years of reputation they had.

24:11

So he was really in a no win situation with that. I personally,

24:17

you know, I love my waterbed. I missed my waterbed. I'm actually trying to find one for my son right now. But moving them was

24:23

a complete disaster. So once you moved them once, you didn't want to

24:26

get another one. No, but they held up better than inner springs,

24:30

Is that true? Well, yeah, you didn't have to replace them every

24:33

ten years like you do an inner spring. Well I had now. I

24:37

grew up on the very expensive ones, of course, Yeah, that had

24:41

lots. I grew up Mine was a balloon, right, Yeah, No,

24:44

those were horrible. And I can remember when when people would be moving

24:48

in and out, they would have the garden hose in their bedroom and then

24:52

there were all sorts of stories of you know, it coming unscrewed or something

24:56

happening and their waterbed leaking. That's a mess, right, right right,

25:03

I mean that they were so he that's that's I think MAC is the largest

25:10

Temperpeedic seller in the country per square foot. I forget the number. I

25:17

was told this once before but uh so I didn't realize that Superior did that

25:22

at one time. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, No, towards the

25:25

last five years we sold regular waterbed or were regular regular beds as well.

25:29

We had kings down, we had temperpeedic, but that just didn't really get

25:33

across, and our reputation was water beds. And so my dad's real claim

25:37

go ahead, no, no, you're in. I was gonna say,

25:41

my dad's real claim to fame is he took young men who did not have

25:45

a college education and he taught them how to sell to the point where they're

25:48

making triple figures now. And I can if I run into any of his

25:52

old sales guys, they will tell me how much they appreciate, how much

25:56

they learned from him, and he gave them ability to make a good loving

26:00

which is going to think every business should aspire to do that. It's amazing

26:06

more, don't you know you're kind of a father figure in these young guys? Hold in just a moment, Lucas her dad owned her back in the

26:14

day Destiny Night with the k Ross. Lucas. A friend of mine said

26:22

that one of the things that hurt waterbed sales was that insurance companies started asking

26:32

if you had a waterbed, and they would discriminate accordingly. Discriminates not necessarily

26:40

a bad word, not you, for everyone else. It just needs to treat two different things differently because they were different. There were dedicated waterbed policies,

26:49

and I recall that apartments and tenant and landlords would require a dedicated water

27:00

bed policy because of the breakage. And my suspicion is that if you're at

27:06

the insurance, you don't want people to make claims. When you start seeing

27:08

X number of claims come in for waterbed ruptures, you start going, we're

27:15

not insuring that anymore, and you know, we're not giving you tenant insurance

27:18

or we're not giving landlord insurance if you have it and you have to disclose

27:22

it. I wonder how many of those were the waterbed bursting versus the setup

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and takedown, because I think that was probably more likely to cause a problem.

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Yeah, Dad found himself on Marvin Zendler once because of a setup.

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The guy couldn't read the instructions in English and he ended up flooding the house.

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And they said, we offered you delivery, YadA, YadA, YadA,

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and he went to Marvin Zendler and died found himself in the hot seat on that one. And the guy got a new bed and we set it

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up for him. But I believe that's true about insurance. That makes perfect

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sense. Do you think the guy was really just a complainer? Yeah?

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I think I think he just didn't know what he was doing and should have

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paid for delivery and didn't and got a free bed out of it. Oh,

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he he was doing it himself and he screwed it up. Yes,

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yes, yes, And then he called Marvin Zundler that. I have a

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very distinct memory of watching my dad on Marvin's Unler and going, why is

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he being mean to dad? But how cool would it have been if he'd

28:22

vote up to Marvin right right, vote star and started doing the windmill with

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his fist. Let's go, old man, let's go right now. Yeah,

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that would be vulnerable, right right. It would be interesting if ABC

28:38

has that clip. But yeah, I know Marvin's and theer brought up,

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you know, his Rolex watch and all this stuff, and you should help

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the guy out. And so Dad gave the guy a new bed. Probably

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wouldn't have that, No, you probably didn't have a Christmas that year,

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right, right, Yes, I was so deprived. Are the Rosses Jewish?

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Yeah, my dad's name was originally Rosenberg. When his parents came over

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his grandparents, they changed to Ross. It wouldn't be so distinctive. It's

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a dead giveaway because every friend I have that's a Ross is Jewish. It

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is Jewish. You know. I bet that I didn't think about that,

29:15

all of the the the Ashkenaism, Rosenkranz, Rosenstein, Rosen. I bet

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a lot of those changes after I never thought about that. That's interesting.

29:29

Wow. So my dad was Jewish, but not practicing because, as I

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said before, he grew up in the foster care system. So and then

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my mother was Catholic, and then I married a Mormons. I like to

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say, I'm just confused. You know, I have spent time in the

29:47

past. This was just a subject last week, so you hit a nerve. We're talking about preppers. So I had a teacher who wanted, uh,

29:55

wanted to see if I would introduce any of our listeners who were preppers

29:59

to him because as he's teaching his students about victory gardens and during World War

30:03

two and World War One, they would encourage people to grow gardens so that

30:07

he would be less strained on the food supply here, so more food could

30:10

be sent to the troops. And he wanted to teach them about, you know, growing their own garden and canning their own food and all. This

30:15

had so many listeners that I forwarded that were so excited about it. But

30:18

Chad came in and told me, Chad knock and Ashi, our executive producer,

30:22

his wife was raised Mormon. She's not practicing now. She was raised

30:26

Mormon in Oregon, which, as you know, has a huge Mormon population.

30:30

And he said, did you know that the Mormons are master preppers?

30:34

And I said no, and he said, oh yes, they teach it

30:37

in the church, and they even have an entire line of products. He

30:41

said they got for us when we got married. He said, we have

30:45

all these survival and it's just one more thing. The Mormons are very,

30:49

very strategic people as a church and as a culture that I noticed they are.

30:56

Yes, sir, They're the nicest people you'll ever meet in your life.

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My husband is not practicing, he left the church. They're also the

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highest per capita earners in the United States of any religious affiliation. Did you

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know that. I did not know that, but I believe it. It's not even close the top few. After Mormon it was a massive drop off.

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And I actually think after Mormon it's Hindu, and then I believe it

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might be Buddhist after that, and then Jewish and then poor Southern Baptists.

31:33

We're just not at the top of the We have an occasional multi millionaire,

31:37

you know, like a hobby lobby guy, but mostly working class people and

31:42

the Catholics, the Catholics. You know, you got a you know,

31:45

the random rich guy there, but you got a lot of recent immigrants that

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are Catholic, and they dragged that down at least for the first generation.

31:52

Yeah, that's true. So you're wishing I would stop talking. So's no,

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you're fine. This is fascinating. So I find I find the psychiatry

32:04

practice fascinating. But I have to ask you. So you and your husband

32:08

are married, obviously in working in the same building. Is Michael Goldsby married

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to Sue Goldsby? Yes, he is. That's too many married couples under

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one roof. Uh yeah, right now, it's only the two of us.

32:22

I'm trying that. I think we've had one more married couple before. Yes, we all get along. Find me and doctor Goldsby fight like we're

32:29

married sometimes, and I realize that I've heard that he doesn't fight with his

32:32

wife like that, so he gets it out with me. Oh that's how

32:36

but no, yeah, yeah, but no, it works very well.

32:39

My husband is at the hospital most of the day, so we are not

32:44

in the same building most of the day. But I do all the administ

32:47

Okay, is he in the hospital like the psych word? What why is

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the psychiatrist? He's the medical director of Woodland Springstone Psychiatric Hospital. Okay,

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So y'all have your own clinical process. Okay, and I notice I'll do

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clinical trials on teen autism and teend ADHD. Is that a self funded deal?

33:13

What's that? No? So the drug companies like Pfizer will come in

33:17

and they have to do studies to get FDA approval. So we're trying to

33:21

work on FDA approval. So they set up clinics, they hire doctors,

33:25

and they take data from that doctor's clinic and the patients that are in the

33:30

study, and then they present all of that to the FDA to get approval.

33:32

So we're working on new psychiatric drugs. So I have a friend named

33:36

Darren altch He and I started as baby lawyers on the same day at the

33:42

same firm, JENKINSI Goo Chris and he to this day I believe still does

33:45

this. But he did all the legal work on clinical trials for companies wanting

33:52

to do clinical trials on drugs is what he's done for however many years, that's been thirty years or whatever. Destiny, thank you for calling us.

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You're you're just a font of fascinating information on the psychiatric in the waterbed front.

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Oh, thank you. It was great to talk to you. Thanks for highlighting my dad. It really means a lot to me. Well,

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you know what, I think that's pretty cool. I really do that you

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love your dad so much that you want his memory preserved. I think that

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I find very charming. Yeah, thank you. Have a good day.

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