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P.G. Woodhouse once said that
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golf, like the measles, should
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be caught young, for if postponed
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to riper years, the results
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may be serious.
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James Nutley got bitten by the golfing
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bug early, which is how the
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25-year-old found himself one
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windy October in the Welsh seaside
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town of Tenby. He
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was there with his golf club for a tournament and
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the first night of the trip began, as it always
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did, with a journey through several of the
1:09
region's drinking dens.
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When James reached his limit, he decided
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to make the return journey to his hotel, located
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on the promenade overlooking Tenby's South Beach. The
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trip should have taken him no more than six
1:23
minutes on foot, ten if
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you factor in his tipsy state and
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the gale-force winds he was battling as he walked.
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But James never made it back to his
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hotel.
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He was last seen on CCTV
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just 38 yards from the door
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of the Gilta, where he and his friends
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were staying. Almost 20 years
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later, his parents, Catherine
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and Geoffrey,
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and sister Helen, are still waiting
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for him to come home. I'm
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Pandora Sykes, and you're listening to
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The Missing, a Podomo podcast
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series produced by What's the Story? and
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brought to you with help from the charities Missing
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People and Locate International.
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They believe that all of the cases
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in this series could still be
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solved. This
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is The Missing,
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James Nutley.
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The Nutleys had two major passions, racing
2:27
and golf. Catherine's
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family had always kept horses, and
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Geoff, in his younger years, had been
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a jockey. The pair meeting when
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he happened to be taking one of her dad's stallions
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out for a spin. They
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were instantly smitten with one another, and
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then, after a long engagement, we
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got married in 1976 on a beautiful
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frosty day at the
2:51
local golf club.
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Eventually, injury forced Geoff to hang
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up his jockey silks. And
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then he decided to change horsepower,
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and he went into mini, like
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mini coaches, mini buses.
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And Catherine got a job working in Lloyd's
3:09
bank. And luckily,
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Geoffrey had managed to save a bit of
3:14
money from his race riding, and
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he was able to buy his parents
3:19
a safe farm, but
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he always used to say it was a house with a large
3:24
garden, so he'd had 21 acres with it. Known
3:27
locally as Charity Farm, the
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couple's new home was just a stone's throwaway
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from Coent, the village
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where Catherine had grown up, in the county
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of Monmouthshire. Three
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years later, James, their first
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child, was born.
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He was asthmatic, and we only found
3:46
that out when he was nine months old.
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And we nearly lost him, because of
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course the breathing problem.
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And we had quite a frightening time,
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but luckily, hospitals were pretty
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good. then and he
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came through it but he we
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didn't wrap him up in cotton wool which is
4:06
what my grandmother and my
4:08
aunts wanted me to do. James
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was soon followed by a daughter Helen and
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the pair of them had the run of the place. We'd
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been given these red wellies and
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red suits outside
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suits, zip up you know like a snow suit
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and he decided to take his sister
4:30
for a walk around the farm and
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he pushed her into the snowdrift and left her there
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and came back home and
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we said well where you know where's Helen? I
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don't know. Luckily
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being in the red snow suit you could see her
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straight away.
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James was no stranger to a bit of light-hearted
4:49
hell-raising. We used
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to have a couple of dogs
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about the farm you can imagine this.
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He let them out after you tell him
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not to and he also had a habit of
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taking the keys out the car and hiding them.
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And the farm being a farm
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there was no shortage of animals.
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Everybody seemed to want to dump
5:11
their unwanted chickens,
5:14
ducks, dogs on us.
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We were like the lost property for dogs and
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he loved all those animals. Now Helen
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wasn't too keen at all
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on them she didn't. We had a few cattle,
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we had few ponies, then
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we found James was allergic to ponies, to
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hair, you
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know with his asthma and
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then the way we got rid of it, the
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allergies to horses
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or hair, was he
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used to go to the race meetings so
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the more he was closer to them the
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more immune he got. The
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not least were plugged into the local amateur racing
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scene and the whole family
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spent many a Saturday at point-to-points
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all over Monmouthshire. You
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would take your picnic
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and it's a social gathering. One
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which usually ended up in the nearest pub. And
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then there was the farm.
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We used to do a bit of hay making which
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was great fun. James used to like to
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drive the tractor. That's
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when he was a bit older of course. But no,
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Jeffrey decided one day he thought
6:21
they might like some pet lambs. So
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he brought home a ewe and
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she had triplets and
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then she died the mother died. So you're left
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left with these three pet lambs
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technically. So we had to bottle feed them. So I
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would or Jeffrey one James the
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other and Helen the other and they
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were proper pets
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and they never went off the farm. James
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was a bright student and a keen footballer
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but it wasn't until he stepped onto his first
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fairway at the age of 12 that
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he realised where his
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interests truly lay.
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Our local golf club was at the sort of the
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end of our lane. They carried
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their golf clubs up the road and
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across a gate and then they were on the golf course and
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you'd give them a pound each and they'd stay
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there for the whole day. And they'd
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have just a basket of chips
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and lots of mayonnaise and tomato
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sauce all on it.
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You knew they were safe
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and we actually felt that the golf taught
7:21
the manners as well. On the
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farm there was no shortage of places for
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James to hone his swing. Well
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Jeffrey in the barn he actually put
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in those days you had used to have like rubberback
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carpet so he hung it up quite
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a large lot and it was like you could hit
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the balls into it. It was like a net so
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we'd all practice like that and
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then if you wanted to get the real you'd
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go out on the grass and then you
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could hit it at one side of the field and
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hopefully not lose the golf ball for the cattle to eat.
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They would try chewing it and that's for sure. He
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was always told don't hit the
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ball back towards
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the house.
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and one particular day that's just
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what he did, it hit the house
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and ricocheted into the cow in screen.
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So he wasn't very popular. Together
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the Nutley family were a force to be reckoned with
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at their local golf club. I think
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we won everything at the golf club myself,
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Jeffrey, James and Helen. We
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all managed to clear out you know
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clear a few trophies occasionally.
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James was proving to be a talented golfer.
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He was selected for his county team
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and made junior captain and
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even went on to win the Cannes French
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Open when he was 17. He
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was presented with his trophy by
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Welsh golfing legend Ian Woosnum.
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He came down to
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a very good handicap
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and but his temperament
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wasn't quite right for it. He really wanted
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to be better than he was and if
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the shot wasn't perfect well you could
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see that club fly in. When
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James left school he applied for a job
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at the racing post.
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He was no stranger to the betting shop and
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he hoped to parlay his encyclopedic knowledge
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of racing into a career.
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He was very miffed he didn't get it but
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he actually took part in a competition
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it was called the 10 to follow where
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you had to pick 10 horses and
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at the end of the season you had points
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for if they'd won second or third anyway
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he finished 10th in that and I think
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he won 4,000
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pounds. He
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was an avid follower of form.
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James got a job working at a warehouse which
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he hated
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but then he landed his dream gig
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which was working
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for a golf manufacturer which
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supplies golf clubs
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the actual clubs you play with and
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he was a demonstrator
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so he was off all over the country.
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James spent the summer of 2004 driving
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around the UK in a white van, laden
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with golf gear, visiting clubs
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and pro shops the length and breadth of
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the country,
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and he had an absolute ball along the way.
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It wasn't a full time, it was
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contracted to sort of the summer
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months like August to September, so
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it was the August to September
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before he went missing.
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One of the stops James made that summer was
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in the seaside town of Tenby in
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south west Wales,
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a place he was very familiar with and
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one which would come to be of major significance
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for him and his family.
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Every year during half term in October,
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James would travel there with his golf club for
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a competition
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and 2004 was no different.
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Since he'd been a junior playing
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golf, the club or
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the juniors had always
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gone on a golf trip in that
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particular time which was half term in
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October and previously
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of course Jeffrey had gone with him and
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the motto was juniors
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look after your adults. It
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was because the adults got into terrible states
11:16
while they were away.
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James got up early on the morning of October
11:20
the 24th to get in one
11:22
last practice session before leaving
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for Tenby.
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When they had to it was a big competition. Then
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he came home, my parents
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were there, they were having lunch and we put a
11:35
dinner up for James. He
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spoke to my grandfather, my father
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sorry about racing because there was racing
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on the television and they had a discussion
11:45
about that. Then
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he went and packed his bag because
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he had a special tightless bag that was given to him
11:52
for work and then his
11:54
friend came round and
11:57
he said I might play
11:59
golf on the way back at on
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the Tuesday and I'll
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see you later. And
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that was it. Go.
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James was picked up from his home that afternoon
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by a friend who also lived in Caldecott.
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The four young men in the car, surrounded
12:21
by their bulky golf equipment, made
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the 110 mile journey in just over
12:26
two hours. The
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CCTV shows
12:31
them arriving in Temby and
12:34
they went to the
12:36
Cashpoint machines to
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get money. Then I think
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they went to booking at the hotel
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which is on the seafront
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of the South Beach. The
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hotel in question was known as the Gilta,
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a beautiful Victorian building. They
12:51
were staying in different hotels which did
12:54
cause a bit of confusion and
12:57
they went to the pub
12:59
called the Lifeboat. And
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some people remember seeing him in there at the
13:03
time.
13:05
I think they just all met up. Then
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they went back to the hotel and
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changed to go back out. So
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that was about seven o'clock at night. Over
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the course of the next four hours, James
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and his golf buddies embarked on a pub crawl,
13:21
taking in several nautical themed taverns
13:23
along the way.
13:24
They ended up in a late night bar
13:27
called the Prince of Wales. And
13:29
apparently he was sick in there so
13:31
it can tell you that a bit. But
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the chap who kept the pub was a
13:37
friend of one of the golfers and
13:39
I think they, James decided he was
13:42
walking home.
13:43
The Prince of Wales was on Upper Frog Street,
13:46
just a five minute walk from James's accommodation
13:49
on the seafront. He left the
13:51
bar alone at approximately 11 40 pm and
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he was last seen at 11 57 when
13:55
he was picked up by
13:59
sea sea lions.
13:59
crossing the road
14:02
towards the Atlantic Hotel,
14:04
just 35 metres away
14:06
from the entrance to the Gilta. But
14:10
given the late hour James's absence
14:13
wasn't picked up on until the following
14:15
morning. They'd
14:17
all come down for breakfast, although he was sharing
14:19
a room, but they thought then
14:21
James must have met his other friend Philip because
14:24
this is where all the different hotels
14:26
came into it and they thought he'd gone to see
14:28
Philip, so they didn't really
14:31
worry about him. And it was only when they
14:33
came down to breakfast in the morning
14:35
of the 25th there
14:37
was no James, so oh
14:39
well we've got his clubs
14:41
and stuff in the car or we'd
14:43
go to the golf club. Well
14:46
James didn't appear did he? So
14:48
I think that's when they raised the alarm.
14:51
As well as the tourists that the golf tournament attracts,
14:54
Tenby is a popular hen and stag
14:56
destination,
14:56
which means that the
14:59
local police force have dealt with their fair
15:01
share of wayward drinkers, people
15:03
who usually turn up looking sheepish a few
15:05
hours after their friends have reported
15:07
them missing. The police told James's
15:10
companions that he'd probably gone home
15:12
with someone, slept in and would
15:14
turn up later with his tail between his
15:16
legs. But then a discovery
15:19
was made that forced them to take
15:21
things seriously.
15:28
A tourist turned up at the police station to
15:30
hand in some lost items.
15:33
They had come across a driving license, a
15:35
national insurance card, a euro
15:38
golf card and a Paddy Power
15:40
bookmakers card lying loose
15:43
on the sands of South Beach, all
15:46
of which belonged to James.
15:50
And at that point the police knew
15:52
it was time to notify his family. I
15:55
think I got a phone call or
15:58
Jeffrey had a phone call.
15:59
And then friends came to, I was working
16:03
in the bank, it was about half past five. They all
16:05
hammered on the door and we let them in and
16:08
they just said James is missing.
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So then it was back home. Jeffrey
16:14
had given up smoking, he had a cigarette in
16:16
his hand and he was very upset,
16:18
as you can imagine. And
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Helen had the sense to get a photograph.
16:25
Catherine
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and Helen drove to Tenby right away,
16:27
with Jeff electing to stay behind, in
16:30
case James phoned or turned up at the house.
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By the time they arrived at the seafront that night,
16:36
the search for James had begun in earnest
16:39
and the police had engaged the assistance of
16:41
a sniffer dog team to examine
16:43
the beach where James's IDs had
16:45
been found. Well I'll
16:48
tell you the strange thing, Helen had
16:50
a top of James's
16:50
on and we
16:53
went past this van in the police station
16:55
and then all of a sudden it
16:57
started rocking and howling with dogs, they
16:59
had dogs in. They were tracker dogs,
17:02
so the police had had these dogs out
17:04
looking for James, but they'd
17:07
lost the scent at
17:09
the turning where it went from the road
17:11
along to the seafront.
17:12
But they reckon
17:15
it was the wind that had taken the scent away. You
17:18
must remember that
17:21
it was a very stormy night.
17:22
The weather
17:24
had been atrocious the night James had gone missing.
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He had battled a force-ate gale as
17:29
he made his return journey along the seafront.
17:34
And Tenby is actually like
17:37
a walled wall town and
17:39
when you come to a certain point, when
17:41
you come towards the sea, the wind
17:43
would hit you.
17:45
So you come down a road and you turn right
17:48
back to the hotel, so that's where he would
17:50
have hit the wind. The police
17:52
spent that first day searching the beach
17:55
as well as interviewing all of James's friends.
17:58
After meeting his parents, They asked
18:00
them to come down to the station, first
18:02
thing the following morning.
18:05
We could stay at the gilt tower, which is where James was
18:08
staying. They got a room
18:10
for us there. And
18:12
I remember Helen and I looking
18:14
out the window and you could see lights going
18:17
up and down the beach, which was
18:19
the Coast Guard and police looking
18:21
up and down the beach. And we
18:23
walked round, didn't see a soul.
18:27
At 12 o'clock at night, I think we only saw a police car,
18:29
and it was as calm as anything. James's
18:32
friends could barely look Catherine in the
18:34
eye.
18:35
Though they were all very distraught, the
18:37
ones that were staying in the same hotel, they just couldn't
18:39
speak to us really. But
18:42
the police did say that all
18:44
the statements they took, everything
18:46
tallied up. You know, there
18:48
was no discrepancy in what they all said. Well,
18:52
you know, that shows they were telling the truth
18:55
to me. And they all wished, you know,
18:57
one of them had come home with James, but hindsight's
19:00
wonderful, isn't it?
19:01
After a restless night at the hotel, Catherine
19:04
and Helen made their way to
19:07
Tenby police station.
19:10
So
19:10
the next day then we go, and
19:12
it's a very small police station.
19:14
So I had to do what I'm like doing
19:16
now from his birth to what he did. Did
19:20
he try and commit suicide? We
19:22
went through that. And the
19:24
policeman did say, well, if he wanted
19:26
to do that, he could have
19:27
jumped off the seven bridge.
19:29
The idea that James had taken his own
19:32
life
19:33
was one Catherine couldn't even begin to
19:35
contemplate. James
19:37
was a happy person in the prime
19:39
of his life, away with his
19:41
closest friends for a trip where he got
19:44
to indulge in his favourite hobby. They
19:46
had spoken not long before his disappearance,
19:49
but how excited he was about the months ahead.
19:52
Yeah, well, the calendar for the
19:55
rest of the year was like, play
19:58
golf here, play golf there, go into the race.
19:59
is here, gotta meet so and so, you
20:02
know. The forward calendar
20:04
was looking good, I mean he'd even ordered up stuff
20:07
from Amazon that was due to
20:10
arrive when he got back.
20:14
As the Nutleys answered questions about
20:17
James in a small dimly lit
20:19
room,
20:20
outside the search continued.
20:23
The seafront was a hive of activity.
20:26
Lifeboats scoured the chilly waters
20:29
of South Beach. A heat-seeking
20:31
helicopter hunted for signs of
20:33
life and an abseiling team
20:35
was deployed to examine the nearby cliffs.
20:39
By the time the Nutleys had finished speaking with
20:41
the police, the press had gathered
20:43
outside. Katherine and Helen
20:45
made their way to the seafront. It
20:48
was a calm day, a world away
20:50
from the stormy weather that had been battering the coast
20:52
not 36 hours earlier. It's
20:55
the South Beach, so this is where he
20:57
would have walked along. They put a mountain
21:00
rescue team over, so
21:02
there was ropes and then there's a crowd coming,
21:05
there's cameras and
21:07
I had a liaison officer
21:11
and he said, no, you don't say anything,
21:13
you don't speak to anybody. And you
21:15
could hear people saying, well, the
21:17
tide here, oh, he should be over
21:19
there, he could turn up, if he's in the water he'll
21:21
turn up over there.
21:22
Hearing
21:25
people openly speculate about where her
21:27
son's body might turn up was
21:29
a deeply unpleasant experience for Katherine,
21:32
but she understood the realities of the
21:34
search effort. On
21:36
top of the gale force winds, there
21:39
had been a high tide the Night James went
21:41
missing, so the theory that
21:43
in his vulnerable state he had been blown
21:45
into the sea and drowned wasn't
21:48
an outlandish one. By
21:50
the time Jeff arrived in Tenby on
21:52
the Tuesday, the bad weather had
21:55
once again braided its head.
21:58
Tell her how windy it was, because you
21:59
tried to open your car door, which
22:02
was very difficult, and then as soon as you
22:04
got out it slammed. So he
22:06
spoke to the police as well then, and
22:09
then he went home, and
22:12
I stayed with my friends who live in Pembrokeshire.
22:14
Helen and I, she took us, we sat
22:17
in the car park, and we just cried,
22:19
because we were leaving James behind. This
22:22
is how it felt.
22:25
The Nutleys crestfallen that
22:27
the search had so far produced no real
22:29
leads, returned to Caldecott,
22:32
where they were embraced by the local community.
22:34
A lot of friends
22:37
came and said, come on, come
22:39
up to presentation night, and
22:41
we'll put you in a corner, and it
22:44
sort of broke the ice. We came out,
22:47
people left us alone, I
22:50
think I'd won a few things from
22:52
the past year, and I think Helen had as well,
22:54
and they'd had something for James made as
22:56
well. But
22:58
as the weeks and months went by, that
23:00
initial swell of support started to
23:02
fall away. People came
23:04
to visit, so there was
23:07
lots of cups of tea, and
23:09
talk about it, and
23:11
then gradually less people came, and
23:14
then after that, we
23:17
went out, we thought life's gotta go
23:20
on, but people
23:22
would, in the village, they'd
23:25
sort of put their heads down
23:27
and walk the other side of the road, but
23:30
then it got better, and
23:32
we talk about it regularly. James's
23:35
sister took her siblings' disappearance particularly
23:38
hard. Helen was
23:40
not well at all, affected her
23:43
more so, I think, than
23:45
Jeffrey and I, because as she said, you've
23:47
got Dad. I always used to have James,
23:50
I've got no one now.
23:52
The police soon turned up to search the
23:54
Nutley family home.
23:56
They wanted stuff of James's,
23:58
like... a brush
24:01
with hair in, they
24:03
took our DNA, you know, with
24:05
the swabs. And Jeffrey jokingly
24:07
said he is ours, is he? The
24:10
investigators were leaning towards
24:12
the theory that one way or another,
24:15
James had ended up in the water, and
24:18
that there was a strong chance his body would
24:20
eventually be returned by the sea. Did
24:24
actually say his, if
24:27
he was in the water, his
24:29
body should turn up about
24:31
six weeks over, and they'd alerted
24:34
Devon and Cornwall Police.
24:37
But six weeks came and went, with
24:39
no sign of James. The
24:42
Nutleys made numerous trips to and from
24:44
Tenby over the next few months, each
24:47
time hoping for fresh insight
24:49
into their son's whereabouts, and
24:51
each time leaving, disappointed.
24:55
They'd found a shoe, and
24:57
then James was size 11, and this was
25:00
size eight. Then they found
25:02
a body, but it
25:04
was a woman, not
25:06
James.
25:08
Catherine held fast to her belief that
25:10
James hadn't ended up in the water. They
25:13
really thought, well, is he in
25:15
the sea? Who's to say? They
25:18
can't prove it one way or the other. I
25:20
mean, the cards that they found on the
25:22
beach. I mean, I threw a card in,
25:25
that didn't come back. You
25:26
know, we tried that. And they couldn't tell
25:28
me whether they actual cards, they
25:31
couldn't confirm whether they'd been in the water
25:33
or not. That's how they said it.
25:36
During the course of her interview with the police,
25:39
Catherine had mentioned that James fancied
25:41
the occasional flutter.
25:43
And they said, oh, well, he used to like a gamble.
25:46
He must have been in debt. You know, they just
25:48
formed an opinion.
25:51
I know he wasn't in debt because he had stacks of money.
25:59
but he was a far cry from
26:02
a problem gambler. All
26:04
of a sudden, this missing person
26:06
case pivoted into a murder inquiry.
26:15
A 42-year-old man by the name of Richard
26:17
Fairbrass was arrested after
26:20
allegedly beating up his girlfriend.
26:23
The man was known to them. He was the biggest
26:25
drug dealer in the area. They
26:28
would know that he'd been in Tembe,
26:30
but there was no intelligence to say that
26:32
he was there that night.
26:35
Whilst being questioned by police, Fairbrass,
26:38
a local of the town of Milford Haven, just
26:40
a 30-minute drive from Tembe,
26:43
made an extraordinary confession. He
26:46
told the police that he and his girlfriend
26:49
had crossed paths with James on
26:51
the night
26:52
he'd gone missing. They'd
26:54
met James while he was walking home
26:57
and
26:59
her partner, because James had looked at her
27:01
or something like this, he'd
27:03
beat James up on the
27:05
beach and he'd hit him
27:07
with his belt. I mean, James
27:09
couldn't defend himself. Fairbrass
27:12
said that his girlfriend had initiated
27:14
the attack and that he had joined in,
27:17
the pair of them ultimately
27:18
beating James to death together. He
27:21
went on to tell investigators how
27:23
he had hidden James's body in the back of his
27:25
car before driving to the southwest
27:28
coast of Pembrokeshire, where they
27:30
had disposed of him.
27:33
Thrown him off a place called Stack Rocks. They
27:36
actually sent divers down there, believe it or not.
27:39
And that cost them £19,000, so they told us.
27:43
After their search failed to turn up anything,
27:46
Fairbrass admitted that the entire
27:48
story had been a fabrication, a
27:51
twisted attempt at getting back at the partner
27:54
who had reported him
27:55
for assault. But
27:58
they had him for... for making
28:00
a false confession to James'
28:03
murder. The
28:05
times in his story didn't make sense and
28:07
he later pleaded guilty to trying to pervert
28:09
the course of justice. But
28:13
he was jailed for 27 months. The
28:18
experience had been a harrowing one for the
28:20
Nutleys. Led to believe
28:22
that their son had been murdered, watching
28:25
as search and rescue teams combed through
28:27
the waters at Stax Rocks to see
28:29
if his body would be unearthed,
28:31
only to learn that the whole thing had been
28:33
an elaborate lie was
28:35
almost too much to bear.
28:38
James has now been missing for
28:40
the better part of two decades
28:43
and the investigation has been gathering
28:45
dust for years.
28:48
We haven't heard from them in 10 years.
28:50
And when I did mention to
28:53
this fellow from ITV
28:55
Wales, we did the Left
28:57
Behind.
28:58
He was actually filming in Tenby
29:02
with us
29:03
and two policemen came along,
29:05
didn't know anything about it.
29:08
I mean, it is what, coming up 18
29:10
and a half years now.
29:12
Certain people in Tenby knew that James
29:14
had gone missing,
29:16
but no.
29:22
Catherine and Geoff make the two hour
29:24
drive to Tenby every year on
29:27
James' birthday and again on the
29:29
anniversary of his disappearance. We
29:33
go into the gilt hour because
29:35
the manager or the owner is still
29:37
there.
29:39
I mean, it went in lockdown when we couldn't
29:41
go anywhere. They actually
29:43
phoned us to say, would you like us to
29:45
put a tribute out for you? Which
29:47
is what they did, which was wonderful. Thought
29:50
it was absolutely lovely.
29:54
They make their way to the promenade where
29:57
James was last seen. There.
29:59
They place a bouquet of flowers, along
30:02
with a note, explaining who their
30:04
son is and asking anyone
30:06
with information to come forward.
30:09
And it might jog someone's memory,
30:11
but other than that, like the
30:14
publicity has sort of died down.
30:17
Every now and again,
30:18
Catherine finds herself searching the National
30:20
Crime Agency's database of unidentified
30:23
bodies.
30:25
So I always have a little look at that, just
30:27
to see, and just
30:29
think and look at it and think, no, no,
30:32
no. But
30:34
then, do I want to know? Helen
30:37
would like closure, that's the word
30:39
the police use. But
30:43
yeah, my friend, she always told
30:45
me he wasn't in the sea. And that's
30:47
what I'd like to believe. For
30:49
the Nutleys, life has moved on
30:52
to some extent, because it has
30:54
to. And we're lucky
30:56
now that Helen, although
30:58
not married, has a partner. And we
31:00
have two grandchildren. So they
31:04
fill the void. But they'll never give
31:06
up on the idea that they'll eventually
31:08
hear a knock on the door and
31:10
open it to a familiar
31:12
and much-missed face. You
31:15
know, I just feel that James will hopefully
31:18
turn up one day. That's the way I like to think about it.
31:21
Until someone's told me different.
31:24
In many cases, it takes just
31:26
one piece of information to lead
31:29
police or family to the answers
31:31
they crave. If you
31:33
know what happened to James, or you
31:35
remember seeing someone like him on
31:37
October the 24th, 2004, your information could be vital.
31:44
Even if you've never heard of James Nutley before,
31:47
you still could help. Visit
31:50
our website, themissingpodcast.org,
31:53
where you'll find more information on this
31:55
and every other case we've featured
31:57
on this podcast. There.
31:59
you can join an online movement, one
32:02
dedicated to supporting the investigations
32:05
for all the cases we've covered, including
32:07
the one you're listening
32:08
to right now.
32:11
Since the launch of the Missing podcast,
32:13
over 300 volunteers have joined
32:15
community investigation teams led by
32:18
Locate International. In
32:20
the UK alone, there are over 12,000 long-term
32:24
missing and unidentified people.
32:27
To support Locate's efforts and
32:30
to learn more about the vital work they
32:32
do, visit Locate.International
32:35
where you can join the mission to help
32:38
locate the missing.
32:40
The
32:40
series is also made in collaboration
32:42
with the charity Missing People, who
32:44
work tirelessly to support the families
32:47
of the missing. Their
32:49
helpline is open to offer support and
32:51
advice if you've been affected by
32:53
anything in this episode. You
32:56
can reach them by calling or texting or
33:02
by emailing them at
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We
33:11
cannot say this enough, it takes
33:13
just one person with the right
33:15
information to solve any of
33:17
the cases in this series. The
33:20
Nutleys hope that the information will soon
33:22
arrive to solve this
33:24
one. The
33:25
Missing is a podcast from Podomo
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and What's the Story Sounds. It's
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33:33
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33:35
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33:37
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33:39
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33:41
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