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March 2022, and Leona Tai was in Dublin
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airport,
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waiting
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to board a flight to Lisbon. Her
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bag was packed, her boarding pass
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ready, and her husband by
0:51
her side. But she didn't
0:53
have any of the usual pre-holiday jitters.
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The idea of a week without work and admin,
0:59
the prospect of a 10.30am cocktail, or
1:02
a regrettable airport purchase. And
1:04
once she touches down in Portugal, the
1:07
beach will be the furthest thing from her mind.
1:09
Because Leona
1:11
wasn't going on holiday. She was
1:13
heading to Lisbon with one objective
1:16
only,
1:17
to find her missing sister. I'm
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Pandora Sykes, and you're listening to
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The Missing, a Podomo podcast
1:25
series produced by What's The Story Sounds,
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and brought to you with help from the charities
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Missing People and Locate International.
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They believe that all of the cases in
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this series could still be solved.
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This
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is The Missing, Jean
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Tai. Jean
1:48
had always been a keen traveller. Over
1:52
the years, she'd crisscrossed the globe,
1:54
ticking off a laundry list of destinations
1:56
on both sides of the equator.
1:59
A quick flick through. her passport would reveal
2:01
stamps from India, Australia and South
2:03
Africa to name but a few. More
2:06
recently she'd spent a lot of time on
2:08
mainland Europe,
2:09
eventually settling in Germany where
2:11
she lived for two years.
2:14
She left following a breakup and
2:16
by Christmas 2019 was back
2:19
home in County Cavan with
2:21
her sister, Leona and the rest
2:23
of the Thai family.
2:26
So I'm the eldest and there's my brother,
2:29
my sister Jean, another brother
2:31
and another sister. They say you can
2:33
learn a lot about someone by going travelling with
2:35
them. After trips to Spain
2:38
and France, Leona found out that
2:40
Jean wasn't fond of an itinerary. Very
2:43
relaxed, very spontaneous,
2:46
let's see what happens when we get out there. It
2:48
was very much let's take it easy. There
2:51
would always have to be a beach. There
2:54
was no way that we were going somewhere without a beach
2:57
and the sea
2:58
and Jean loved good climates,
3:00
warm climates. So
3:02
we always went to places like that and
3:05
you know walked around, took in
3:08
the area. That's how
3:10
Jean travelled. Jean was
3:12
a free spirit, one who was more
3:14
than happy to fly solo should she have to.
3:17
Jean did go travelling alone but Jean
3:20
is a good, you know, she's a good person.
3:22
She's well able to meet new people and
3:24
to converse and Jean
3:28
is quite street smart and is
3:31
street wise and
3:33
has a good idea of
3:35
people and has a good idea of
3:37
how to communicate and work with people
3:40
because that's just something we
3:43
learned from a very young age. Jean's
3:46
ease around strangers stemmed from a long
3:48
career in hospitality, one that
3:50
started in her teenage years back in
3:53
Cavan.
3:54
We grew up in the hospitality business ourselves
3:57
as a family in rural Ireland
3:59
with... a pub, a shop and a post office.
4:02
So Jean was an expert at that type of work because
4:04
we had grown up in that type of a business and
4:07
we knew it like the back of our hand.
4:09
When you grow up in a family business, whatever
4:11
it is, it's all hands on deck all the time.
4:14
There was never an idle moment,
4:16
you know? So, you know,
4:18
she was well able to waitress,
4:21
work in bars, coffee shops, things
4:23
like that. I mean, none of us
4:26
are asked for
4:28
want of a better word, desk jobs, Monday
4:31
to Friday, 9 to 5. Jean
4:33
handled her fair share of problem customers
4:36
in those days. Jean would have been
4:38
well able to gauge people
4:40
and suss out
4:41
dangerous situations and things like that.
4:44
And in some respects, maybe Jean
4:47
was a bit too confident
4:49
in traveling.
4:51
Jean was no shrinking violet. If
4:53
a situation turned hairy, she
4:55
was more than capable of holding her own, something
4:58
she learned about herself one night in 2013.
5:03
It was the early hours of the morning and Jean
5:05
was in Dublin, walking home from
5:08
a Gowan's pub on Fibsborough Road.
5:11
As she made her way over the Crossguns bridge,
5:14
a man emerged from the shadows and grabbed her,
5:16
threatening to throw her into the freezing waters
5:18
of the River Liffey, unless she gave
5:20
him her phone and her purse. Jean
5:23
had no intention of giving up either and she fought
5:25
the mugger off.
5:27
He fled the scene, but not without
5:29
leaving behind several chunks of his skin
5:32
under Jean's
5:33
fingernails. I mean,
5:34
my sister is well able to manage herself.
5:38
After finishing secondary school, Jean
5:40
headed off to college. So
5:42
my sister did her degree
5:44
in the University of Ulster, in Belfast
5:47
campus, in
5:49
fine art and art history. And then
5:52
later on in about 2013, Jean did
5:55
a business certificate in NCI
5:57
Dublin. Jean did a lot of projects
5:59
for a student. on her artwork.
6:02
Obviously it's
6:05
not a very stable income. So
6:07
Jean worked in a lot of temporary
6:10
positions. She had a good
6:13
work ethic. Leona
6:15
remembers the last time she saw her sister in person.
6:22
Jean arrived in Cavan on Christmas
6:25
Eve 2019.
6:27
The two of them spoke about Jean's plans
6:29
for the future. I knew she was
6:31
finished with Germany because she had said, I
6:33
won't be going back to Germany. We were
6:35
just talking about Germany and the
6:38
break-up of that relationship.
6:41
And you know what
6:43
was next. That
6:45
conversation was the first time Jean
6:47
brought up the idea of heading to Portugal. So
6:51
Jean always travelled around with
6:54
her friend called Tasha. And
6:56
they've been friends for the best part
6:58
of ten years. And she
7:00
was explaining that well, my
7:03
friend, you know, her parents
7:05
are from Portugal. And Tasha's
7:07
parents have
7:10
a home house in Portugal. And
7:13
they'll probably go out there in the new year.
7:16
Herself and Tasha. The
7:20
place where Tasha's from and that
7:23
they were staying in was along the coastline
7:25
from Lisbon to Cascais.
7:28
And Tasha's parents' place was in Carcavellas.
7:31
So that's how they came to
7:33
be in Carcavellas. Jean
7:36
and Tasha touched down in the West
7:38
Lisbon suburb in March 2020. Just
7:42
weeks after their arrival, the coronavirus
7:45
pandemic saw countries all over the world
7:47
start closing down
7:48
their borders. And then Tasha
7:50
had to go back to the United
7:52
States because of the lockdown. And
7:55
you know, she had to move
7:58
back to the United States in case you might want to.
8:00
and get back into the United States with the COVID.
8:03
After three months in Carcovellis, Jean
8:06
returned to Ireland in June. But
8:09
after witnessing the shuttered pubs and restaurants
8:11
firsthand, as well as the strict
8:13
social distancing measures, it
8:16
ended up being a rather short visit.
8:18
Jean came back to Dublin and stayed
8:22
for a couple of weeks and then decided,
8:25
well, if this is the way the lockdown is going to be, I'm
8:27
going to head back out to Lisbon.
8:29
At least we're beside the beach in Lisbon.
8:31
This time,
8:33
Jean set up camp in Parada,
8:36
the next suburb over from Carcovellis,
8:39
and got herself a room in the Help
8:41
Yourself hostel, the same chain
8:43
she'd used during her previous trip.
8:45
On July the 13th,
8:48
a few days after she'd arrived in Portugal,
8:51
she phoned her sister. Leona
8:53
missed the call, but texted Jean back,
8:55
asking if everything was okay.
8:58
Yes, fine, Jean replied.
9:01
That was the last time Leona heard from
9:03
her sister.
9:07
Much has been made of the fact that almost
9:10
half a year past between Jean's
9:12
last exchange with her family and
9:14
them reporting her missing to the
9:17
Irish authorities. But
9:19
there are several factors at play
9:21
to consider.
9:23
For one thing, Jean was no stranger
9:25
to dropping everything at a moment's notice
9:28
and heading to some far-flung corner
9:30
of the globe. Nothing was planned
9:32
to a tee
9:33
with Jean. You know,
9:35
Jean could arrive home or she could go again.
9:38
You know, so she was always on
9:40
the move, but her plans weren't
9:42
set
9:42
in stone, and that's how
9:44
she lived. Secondly,
9:47
there was still activity on her bank
9:49
and social media accounts. We
9:51
knew that she was in communication
9:53
with her friends on social media because
9:57
they told us, so we weren't
9:59
alarmed. We didn't, you
10:01
know, there was nothing unusual about this. Jean
10:05
also wasn't one for keeping her family abreast
10:07
of her travel plans. There was no
10:10
big conversations. It was, it's
10:12
always short and brief
10:14
with Jean, you know. Like
10:17
you could never say to Jean, make
10:20
sure you ring every Sunday or things
10:23
like that because Jean would be turned on
10:25
and she'd be horrified and she'd be like, excuse
10:27
me, you can't tell me how to live
10:30
my life. And
10:32
like I said, Jean is a young adult,
10:34
young woman and very capable.
10:37
You know, Jean
10:39
is very capable person and very
10:41
resourceful. Leona had
10:43
a lot on her plate during this time. In 2020,
10:46
she was a nurse living in New York City on
10:48
the front lines of one of the worst COVID
10:51
epicenters in the world.
10:54
I mean, it's a bit of a blur now. I think we were
10:56
doing 80 hour weeks. I'm
10:58
not too sure. I know we didn't work any week, less
11:00
than 60 hours. We just
11:02
went from bed to work, bed to work. I
11:05
mean, work was a nightmare because
11:07
you were top to toe and PPE
11:10
and you could barely get through
11:12
the day. You know, the sweat would be just pouring
11:16
off you. So taking
11:18
out a mobile phone and all the rest of it was
11:20
a no-no.
11:21
Due to travel restrictions, Leona
11:23
wouldn't be able to return home to cabin
11:25
for Christmas that year as normal.
11:28
As the festive season approached, she
11:30
wondered if Jean would be similarly stranded.
11:33
I spoke to her friends in
11:35
December because there was no talk
11:37
or no sign of, you know, Jean saying, oh,
11:39
well, I'll be in Dublin on this day and I'm coming for
11:41
this. And then when I was trying
11:44
to contact other friends
11:46
belonging to Jean, nobody
11:48
was getting back to me straight away. And even
11:50
if there were, I still couldn't pick up those messages
11:52
until I was on a day off or I had a breather.
11:54
We couldn't get in touch with everyone.
11:55
We certainly couldn't get proper
11:58
information from Jean. no
12:01
text messages phone us and then there was
12:03
no sign of her coming for Christmas in New Year.
12:06
Eventually, after months without
12:08
contact, the family,
12:10
now gravely concerned,
12:12
made the decision to involve the authorities.
12:17
We reported Jean missing to the guards. My
12:20
sister went to the guard station in Navin. That
12:23
report then was transferred up to Fitzgibbon
12:26
Street because Jean lives in Glaston Evan and
12:28
that was where the report went to and
12:30
that's how we ended up dealing with
12:32
the guards on Fitzgibbon Street. And
12:35
they then sent a report to
12:37
Interpol and to the police over
12:39
in Kážkáis, the Portuguese police.
12:43
Missing persons cases are complicated
12:45
things at the best of times, but
12:48
trying to get information from a police force
12:50
in a different country when you don't
12:53
speak each other's language was an
12:55
even more challenging prospect. It
12:57
was impossible. It was impossible.
13:01
And on the rare occasions when Leona did
13:03
manage to make contact with someone, she
13:05
felt she wasn't getting the answers she needed.
13:08
You know, we sent a litany of emails, phone
13:10
calls, we would get terrible
13:13
responses. I would speak to them
13:15
on the phone, I sent through the information
13:18
to verify I was who I was and I gave
13:20
permission and we went through
13:22
all of that, that everything was above board
13:24
for me to speak to them on the phone. And
13:27
they would say, oh, your sister has gone off to start her
13:29
own life. Leona didn't
13:31
feel that they were asking too much. Most
13:34
of the information they were looking for was basic
13:37
access to Jean's phone and bank records, her
13:39
social media accounts, anything
13:42
that would help to paint a picture of her movements.
13:45
What you do is you submit a request
13:48
for information with the case number and your
13:50
police stamp and meta
13:52
Facebook, Google, Instagram. They will release
13:54
the information because I've asked them myself.
13:56
I met people
13:58
who were in
13:59
similar situations.
13:59
and they said, you don't have to go to
14:02
court or anything like that. You get that information,
14:04
you have to submit a request. I can't
14:06
do it and you can't do it, but the police can do it. So
14:09
I asked for that to
14:11
be done and
14:12
it hasn't been done.
14:14
That has not been done to date. I
14:17
can't give you any information about phone
14:19
records, bank records, social media accounts.
14:22
And my sister was on match.com. Now
14:25
I would have thought that that would have been the
14:28
biggest point of information
14:30
was match.com because people
14:33
meet other people through websites
14:36
like match.com, through Tinder,
14:38
through apps like this,
14:41
dating apps, and also meetups.
14:44
You know, you have the meetups to
14:46
meet new people. When people
14:49
are travelling and they're in a new area, that's how they
14:51
get involved with other people and they
14:53
meet new people. So the fact
14:55
that none of that information has been requested
14:57
is
14:58
terrible because I feel that that's
15:00
huge.
15:03
After months spent playing phone tag
15:05
with the Portuguese police, the Thai
15:08
family decided that they needed to take control
15:10
of the situation and they made the
15:12
decision to hire a private investigator.
15:16
We gave him all the information. Tasha spoke
15:18
to him because Tasha has the language,
15:21
I don't. And he
15:23
went and did a good
15:26
thorough investigation. He was
15:28
able to tell me that my
15:30
sister left the hostel on the
15:33
afternoon of Monday, July
15:35
13th, with her handbag on
15:37
her person. A
15:40
hostel worker who,
15:42
I
15:42
can't mention his name now, a hostel
15:45
worker
15:46
told the private investigator that he
15:48
saw my sister, Jean Thai,
15:51
leave the hostel on the afternoon of
15:53
July 13th, 2020,
15:55
and that
15:57
Jean left the hostel early. with
16:01
a Brazilian man. Now
16:05
I think that's huge information
16:08
and she was never seen after that
16:10
again. Who
16:15
was this man?
16:17
Was he a friend? Was he
16:19
someone Jean had arranged a date with?
16:22
Either
16:22
way there's a strong chance he's
16:24
the last man to have seen Jean alive.
16:26
The day
16:29
before Jean had booked a flight back to
16:31
Dublin due to leave Lisbon a week
16:33
later. Jean had
16:35
booked to stay another night in
16:37
the hostel. She had paid for it that day,
16:40
paid to stay the night of the 13th
16:43
in that hostel and she went
16:45
off that afternoon with her handbag.
16:48
She left all her belongings in the rest
16:50
of her belongings in the hostel which would be natural
16:52
her passport and everything like that so
16:54
it's safe to say that Jean had in her handbag a
16:57
mobile phone, wallet, makeup, these
17:00
things and she
17:02
was never seen again. She never came back to the hostel.
17:05
Now he has that information. He got that
17:07
information. He said that taxi drivers,
17:09
there's a taxi rank right outside the hostel
17:13
and he said he spoke to taxi drivers
17:16
and showed the picture of Jean and taxi drivers
17:18
did did recognize her
17:21
and a couple of people in local shops recognized
17:23
her. So he found out that
17:26
information and he did a lot of work and
17:28
he submitted that information to the Portuguese police.
17:30
Emboldened
17:32
by these findings, Leona
17:34
kept digging and managed to enlist the
17:36
help of a Portuguese journalist Michael
17:39
Pereira who wrote for the Expresso,
17:42
a national weekly newspaper.
17:46
So
17:46
I was cold calling if you like cold
17:49
emailing all the journalists in Ireland or Portugal
17:52
to take up the story and he was
17:54
the only one that came back to me.
17:59
was down to the fact
18:02
that Jean had never been placed on an official
18:04
missing persons list in Portugal. So
18:07
any journalist doing their due diligence wouldn't
18:10
be able to find any records of
18:12
a missing person in Lisbon by
18:14
her name.
18:18
I needed to get the story out there and
18:20
I needed to overcome a couple
18:22
of, let's say for want of a better word, rumours
18:25
that were out there. So
18:27
there was one
18:29
belief in Portugal by the police that,
18:31
you know, Jean had gone
18:33
off to start her own life.
18:35
And my thinking was, not just my thinking,
18:38
when I say me, it's really the whole family and friends. People
18:41
said to me, well, that's not possible
18:43
unless you have an awful lot of money because
18:46
who's going to give you a brand new
18:48
passport for nothing? I mean,
18:51
if you want to go and start off a new life, you
18:53
need a lot of planning, you need a lot of resources,
18:56
you need people to help you to set up bank accounts.
19:00
You know, it just doesn't happen overnight.
19:03
Now, I knew that my sister didn't go to
19:05
do that because she
19:07
wouldn't be bothered and there's no
19:10
two ways about it. She would be like, forget
19:12
about it.
19:14
Then there was a belief over here in
19:16
Ireland that my sister,
19:19
you know, had mental health difficulties. She was
19:21
anxious. She had anxiety
19:24
and that she had taken her own life and
19:26
that we as a family couldn't accept it.
19:28
So our thinking again was, well,
19:31
OK,
19:32
we can't rule in anything, we can't rule out anything. But
19:35
number one,
19:37
where's Jean then? Where's
19:39
the evidence of that theory? Number
19:42
two, would you go back to Portugal
19:45
to do something like that? Would somebody,
19:48
you know, it just didn't add up.
19:50
The family eventually came to learn that
19:52
the person who first reported Jean missing
19:55
was a
19:55
friend of hers.
19:59
in question was from Angola and
20:02
had been in regular contact with Jean
20:04
and Lisbon at the time of her disappearance.
20:08
Tasha knew him as well and he got
20:10
in touch with the police sometime
20:12
between July 15th and July 19th.
20:15
But Leona never managed to speak with
20:18
him directly. But I don't know whether
20:20
he said he didn't meet me because maybe he was afraid
20:22
to meet me or maybe he was
20:24
in the country illegally or something.
20:27
Sadly, he's since passed away.
20:30
I think he had an underlying condition like diabetes
20:32
or blood pressure and
20:34
he's the person that he shouldn't have been
20:35
drinking or smoking and he was doing both. So
20:38
I think that that's the story. There's
20:42
nothing suspicious about his death or anything like
20:44
that. Eventually, in
20:46
March 2022, after
20:48
countless emails and phone calls, Leona
20:51
and several other members of the Thai family made
20:54
their way to Portugal for a sit down
20:56
with the authorities.
20:59
Leona began the trip by taking a walk
21:01
around Perada, the area where
21:03
Jean was last seen. I've
21:06
walked the length and the breadth of it. It's
21:08
all residential, it's quiet, it's
21:10
seem safe. People don't have anything bad
21:12
to say about it. She also
21:15
paid a visit to the hostel where her sister had been
21:17
staying. I knocked
21:19
on the door of the hostel when I was out there
21:22
and
21:24
I got in the front door. I never
21:26
got to look around
21:27
the rest of it and
21:30
the management of the hostel wouldn't meet me. I
21:33
asked to meet them, I asked to come back another day so
21:36
I wanted to have a look around, I wanted to see,
21:38
I wanted to speak to them. So they
21:40
wouldn't meet me and I've
21:43
had no contact with the hostel since.
21:47
I just think that if
21:49
it was your sister who
21:50
went missing, wouldn't you at least
21:53
try to help somebody from
21:55
another country whose sister disappeared from
21:57
your hostel? Why are you so
22:00
evasive, why are you
22:02
so cold? Like my sister
22:04
disappeared from your hostel, your employees
22:06
say that they saw my sister leave this
22:09
hostel and they were the last to see
22:11
my sister. So why can't we
22:13
have a meeting about that, a discussion about
22:15
that?
22:18
Then the family had the meeting they'd all been
22:20
waiting for,
22:22
a sit down with the PSP, Portugal's
22:24
national civil police force, the
22:27
ones who had taken the report when Jean
22:29
first went missing over a year and a half
22:31
prior.
22:32
Accompanied by her husband, an
22:35
official from the Irish Embassy and
22:37
an interpreter, Leona found herself
22:39
face to face with the chief commander of
22:41
the PSP, along with his deputy
22:44
and four stony-faced detectives.
22:49
Now when that report was made, the
22:51
fact that Jean was a lone traveller will
22:53
say, a young woman, a young
22:55
foreign woman, a young woman travelling in
22:58
a foreign country who was reported
23:00
missing, that report
23:02
should have went straight to the judicial police
23:06
in Portugal and that never happened.
23:08
The judicial police is Portugal's national
23:10
crime investigation agency, specialising
23:13
in serious crimes including drug trafficking,
23:16
kidnapping and homicide. Who
23:19
took the report, where was this report from,
23:21
who made the report, you know, what
23:24
was happening. I was led to believe that
23:27
because Jean had gone off from
23:30
the hostel in July and had
23:33
left her stuff behind, what
23:35
I was told was that if travellers
23:37
leave their stuff behind
23:38
in a hostel, the
23:40
hostel has to keep the belongings
23:43
for three months and then the police come
23:45
and pick it up or that you have to report
23:48
that a traveller never came back for
23:50
their belongings. The men
23:52
sitting opposite Leona weren't able
23:55
to provide satisfactory answers to any
23:57
of these questions and when it came
23:59
to the official...
23:59
missing persons report made
24:02
by Jean's friend they said they weren't
24:04
authorized to show it to the family.
24:08
He said it was on the system and he couldn't access
24:10
the system. So I'm sitting
24:12
in the room with him looking at him he's
24:14
looking at me and he's telling me with
24:16
the computer beside him that he can't access
24:19
the system and I think I said
24:21
to him but the computer is there in front of you
24:23
I still can't access the system and
24:25
he said to me you shouldn't
24:28
be here you should be you should have
24:29
your meeting with the judicial police and the
24:32
public ministry you shouldn't be here I shouldn't
24:34
be meeting with you you're not meeting with the right people
24:36
I am NOT the person for you to meet with them. He
24:39
said you need to get your government
24:42
and your authorities to
24:43
put to talk to the Portuguese
24:47
government and authorities said I can't do that
24:49
I don't do that I'm running a
24:51
police station all I can tell you
24:53
is that our
24:54
police detectives took up the report sent
24:58
true in Drupal at the beginning
25:00
of 2021 we have gone down to
25:03
the hostel we can't find your sister
25:06
and your sister's case has moved on
25:08
and that's who you need to see and that's who you need to get
25:10
in touch with. Jean's
25:13
family returned to Ireland crestfallen
25:15
they had seen firsthand
25:17
just how difficult it was for them as civilians
25:20
to put pressure on the investigation and
25:23
so they got in touch with some people who wouldn't
25:25
have that problem. Well we
25:27
first contacted senior
25:29
politicians within government in 2021
25:32
we wrote letters to everybody
25:35
there January 2022 and I have
25:37
to say that our local TD
25:40
Brendan Smith
25:43
for Kavanagh Monaghan is fantastic
25:46
because
25:47
everything now goes through Brendan to
25:50
his colleagues and other departments
25:53
and they have to get back to Brendan
25:55
they may not get back to me they don't get back to me but
25:57
they have to get back to him
25:59
he's been able to
25:59
to help us to
26:01
get to where we want to put to where we are
26:04
now.
26:08
Jean's case has now made its way
26:10
to the very top of the Irish Government.
26:13
We submitted questions to Brendan
26:15
Smith that
26:18
have never been answered by the Portuguese police.
26:21
And Brendan has submitted
26:23
those questions to Mihal
26:26
Martin-D'Otonishta, a minister for foreign affairs.
26:29
And he is going to make it his business
26:31
to get those questions answered. And
26:34
that does mean a lot because
26:36
the Portuguese police may
26:38
not answer those questions for me or
26:40
indeed for the Irish police, but they
26:42
will have to answer them. They
26:45
will have to send a reply back
26:48
to the minister for foreign affairs,
26:50
because these questions
26:52
have to be answered. I mean, you
26:55
can't have it that somebody disappears and
26:57
that the basic information is not
26:59
gathered
26:59
in a missing person's case.
27:02
And the other thing as well, if
27:05
we don't get these questions
27:07
answered, what message does that send
27:09
out
27:10
to other families? What
27:13
message does that send out to people who
27:19
are working outside the
27:21
lines of the law? You
27:23
know, well, I can do this. I'm not
27:25
going to be caught.
27:26
Nobody's going to bother looking. There's
27:29
going to be no investigation and there's going to be no
27:31
this. And, you know, I can
27:33
do what I like. There has
27:36
to be accountability. By
27:38
the time you're listening to this, Leona
27:40
will have made another trip to Portugal, this
27:43
time for a long anticipated meeting
27:46
with the judicial police.
27:48
What they said was to a liaison
27:51
officer with the Irish embassy, they said that we will
27:54
meet the family any time they want to meet. So
27:57
I said, no problem. We'll be over.
27:59
better be prepared because Leona
28:02
has a lengthy list of questions, all
28:05
of which demand answers. I
28:08
need to find out exactly what
28:10
have you done, what remains outstanding,
28:14
like a query at the bank records,
28:16
where is the public appeal for information,
28:19
where is the social media account records, who did
28:21
you speak to in the hostel, did you speak to the hostel
28:23
manager, how was Jean living in Portugal,
28:26
do we need to review the entire case again?
28:31
For Leona and the rest of her family, Jean's
28:35
disappearance and the endless ordeal
28:37
of dealing with the Portuguese authorities has
28:39
been a hellish experience.
28:45
It's having a terrible effect on the family. I
28:49
suppose one miniature in
28:51
denial, the next miniature in disbelief and
28:53
then the next miniature, okay,
28:55
this is real and this is terrible and what can you
28:58
do about it? You're in a very helpless position,
29:01
which is very hard to deal with.
29:04
There is a loss, we're experiencing a loss,
29:07
but we have no outcome,
29:10
so there's no closure. This is an ongoing loss
29:13
and the lack of information
29:15
is obviously compounding the
29:18
loss and
29:20
it's having a devastating effect.
29:24
This past February, a mass was held
29:26
in Jean's home parish of Muntcha Conacht
29:29
for her safe return. It
29:31
was a lovely mass, but it was very difficult
29:33
and I
29:37
think since that mass, it's
29:40
really hit home
29:42
to a couple of members of the family. This is real.
29:44
We know it's real, but
29:50
this just doesn't affect myself,
29:53
my father, my brothers and
29:55
sisters and Jean's friends. It
29:58
affects our spouses. Our
30:02
extended family, neighbours
30:06
and friends, you know, it
30:08
has a major ripple effect.
30:11
And that's something that you have to be very aware
30:14
of
30:15
as well. I
30:17
mean, I am
30:19
very worried for certain members of my family, you
30:21
know. Will
30:25
they be able to survive it? In
30:35
many cases, it takes just one piece
30:37
of information to lead police
30:40
or family to the answers they crave. If
30:43
you know what happened to Jean, or
30:45
you remember seeing someone like her on
30:48
July 13th 2020, your information could be vital. Even
30:53
if you've never heard of Jean Tai before
30:55
listening to this episode, you could still
30:58
help. Visit our website, themissingpodcast.org,
31:02
where you'll find more information on this
31:05
and every other case we've featured on this
31:07
podcast. There,
31:09
you can join an online movement, one
31:12
dedicated to supporting the investigations
31:14
for all the cases we've covered, including
31:17
the one you're listening to right now.
31:20
Since the launch of The Missing Podcast,
31:23
over 300 volunteers have joined
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community investigation teams led
31:27
by Locate International.
31:29
In the UK alone, there are over 12,000
31:32
long-term missing and unidentified
31:35
people.
31:37
To support Locate's efforts and
31:39
to learn more about the vital work they
31:41
do, visit locate.international,
31:45
where you can join the mission to help
31:47
locate the missing. The
31:49
series is also made in collaboration
31:51
with the charity Missing People, who
31:54
work tirelessly to support the families
31:56
of the missing. Their
31:58
helpline is open to the public.
31:59
to offer support and advice if
32:02
you've been affected by anything in this episode.
32:05
You can reach them by calling or texting 116
32:08
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32:10
at 116 000 at missingpeople.org.uk. We
32:20
cannot say this enough, it takes
32:22
just one person with the right
32:24
information to solve any of the
32:27
cases in this series. The
32:29
Tai
32:29
family hopes that the information
32:32
will soon arrive to solve this
32:34
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