In this episode, two stories of strong and courageous women. Sue Schmidt bangs to a thunderous beat of her own making. Robin Utz comes to face the hardships of pregnancy and love.

And a special note from Robin. She writes:

I would love to give a shoutout to my best friend and husband, Jim, our families, and all of our amazing friends and family that really carried us through this experience - from Internet infertility communities to friends we hadn't spoken to in years that came out of the woodwork to fill our home with cards, flowers and meals, and our texts and inboxes full of words of love and support. And in some cases, filling our days with tear-filled meals, and puzzles and tea.

Storytellers: Sue Schmidt and Robin Utz

Hosted by Dan Kennedy

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