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To the Off podcast I'm Suzanne
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Rust the curator at Them Off
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and Your hosts for this episode
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and these next two stories will
1:52
be taking a trip to Birmingham,
1:54
Alabama where we've been hosting Stories
1:56
Lambs since March. Twenty nineteen each
1:58
Story Slam we. Really reflects
2:01
the city is a part of. There's
2:03
some hilarious behind the scenes Hollywood tidbits
2:05
in the L A Story Slam, The
2:07
New York Story slams how real on
2:09
walk in here vibe and the Birmingham
2:11
story slams bring that wonderful sense of
2:13
being on the front porch as the
2:15
sun goes down listening to a story
2:17
in the dim twilight. Birmingham as one
2:19
of the city's on them off Pop
2:21
Up Ports tour and Twenty Twenty Two
2:23
and I was lucky enough to spend
2:25
a week fair getting snow, hundreds of
2:27
locals and hear. Their stories Great
2:29
town, even better people. First
2:32
up, we've got an wheeler who told the
2:34
story of Birmingham Story Slam where the theme
2:36
of the night was. As Isis
2:38
years and twelve. One
2:43
Sunday afternoon out of his Birmingham, this
2:46
section eight Arts and Entertainment. Second,
2:48
Page then on the left hand
2:50
side that's essentially daniels little one
2:52
parliament's notice. Open call
2:54
or distance farming him Festival
2:57
Theater Sunday to decide. Needed
2:59
three males aged twenty to
3:01
thirty. Three. Females
3:03
aged twenty to thirty five. One.
3:07
Female. Age. Thirty five
3:09
to sister. And
3:11
I I was there. I walked into the theater
3:13
and the hobbies is full of people. They were
3:16
sitting on the floor and will hounds and against
3:18
the wall leaning over the counter filling out the
3:20
decency. When. Not my
3:22
got modest since she started
3:24
filling out name contact information.
3:26
Theater experience. And. Then
3:29
I get to the Va a militia land
3:31
that says let it sit next to the
3:33
fox of all of the following instruments that
3:35
you can play. Him
3:37
is gonna be a music on the. Piano.
3:42
Keyboard. No. Brainer I
3:44
was a piano major in college. Nebula play the
3:46
piano and you gotta play the keyboard. About all
3:48
you need to know. It's waste, the power switch
3:50
and where's the fire? Him control. Shit
3:53
keyboard. Next. one it's
3:55
half now i'd never had a guitar
3:57
lesson in model i think I
4:00
am a child of the 60s. And
4:02
back then, no self-respecting teenager got
4:04
to their 18th birthday without its somewhat bigginal
4:06
guitar and figuring out how to play a C
4:09
and a D and a G chord, right? I mean,
4:11
if you could play those three chords in Head of
4:13
Capo, you could play any tune that was on the
4:15
radio back then. It was great. Check
4:17
guitar. Next
4:20
one, accordion. Now,
4:23
I had never played an accordion in
4:25
my life. And at that
4:27
point, the only thing I wanted to do was
4:30
go into the theater, interrupt the audition. Excuse
4:32
me, Mr. Director, could you please tell me
4:34
what instrument the female age 35 to 50
4:36
got to play? Because
4:39
if it wasn't the accordion, I didn't have to worry about
4:41
that box. But there was no way to
4:43
find that out. In that
4:45
moment, the only thing I knew for certain was
4:48
the more boxes I checked, the
4:50
better chance I had of getting a part
4:53
in that show. So here
4:55
my professional training kicked in. I was a
4:57
lawyer. I was used to telling people how
4:59
to testify under oath. And one thing
5:01
we always say is listen carefully to
5:04
the question. Only answer the question that
5:06
is asked, never volunteer. So
5:08
I read that line again. Put
5:11
a check in all of the boxes next
5:13
to the instruments that you can play.
5:20
Now, I
5:23
had never played an accordion, but I had
5:26
played the concertina, the squeeze box. You know,
5:28
like it's that thing with the buttons on
5:30
the edges and all the bellas in the
5:32
middle. And after all, what
5:34
is an accordion? But you know,
5:36
kind of half of a squeeze box over
5:39
here glued together with an
5:41
upright keyboard over here. I mean, how
5:44
hard can I play the accordion?
5:47
Of course I can play the check
5:49
accordion. The last
5:52
box, froms. My
5:54
favorite, again, never had a lesson, But
5:57
I played the hammer dulcimer, right? It's like
5:59
this. The rhythm and back up all
6:01
the time. and and if I'm a drummer
6:03
friends that the way you move and sort
6:05
of do things to play that das muss,
6:07
it's exactly what drummers to. Who.
6:09
Has. A hidden a sip and
6:11
sleep. At home. I
6:14
had a teenage son who was the
6:16
trauma in the heavy metal, punk rock,
6:19
garage bands I already had a twenty
6:21
peace plan to it's Weird with Sparkle
6:23
follow from and I had a built
6:25
in. A
6:31
data in the to hand my audition
6:33
Cdn and I confess I had a
6:36
few qualms about that Said Mark next
6:38
to accordion. That and
6:40
really wanted. A
6:43
current. Why? Did my turn I
6:45
call my name of when in the theater I've read the
6:47
part. When. Home. And
6:49
then you wait. A. Week later I
6:51
got. A. Head the.
6:56
I. Didn't know which. Except
6:59
it isn't a female. thirty five to
7:01
fifty that others. Have
7:03
been to the first read through and it turned
7:05
out the So was not for women who were
7:07
from said decide to start a rock band cause
7:09
they want to compete in the local battle of
7:11
the bands because I wasn't enough. Five thousand dollar
7:13
first pass a nice for friends thought we can
7:16
do this so at the end of the first
7:18
act in the end of the second act is
7:20
for women are on stage and this of right
7:22
rock band and we deliver a showstopper can't a
7:24
big rock number at the end of each act.
7:29
Turned out I didn't need to worry
7:31
about the of course the sad part
7:33
went to the Us Gorgeous fuck some
7:35
blonde who could felt out song like
7:37
nobody's business and sprints up and down
7:39
and some of the audience while pretending
7:41
to play the accordion. Or
7:44
did I get? well, Let.
7:46
Me to say this: For. The
7:48
run of that so extended for weeks.
7:51
On. Thursday night. Through the Sunday matinee,
7:53
I got to put on my
7:56
black tights and mass. Black.
7:58
Turtleneck. That's
8:00
enough. Leave this
8:03
Red leather jackets covered with
8:05
the zippers. And.
8:07
I got to live the dream. With.
8:10
Those four weeks. Is.
8:13
Otherwise, respectable. Middle
8:15
aged, flown. To
8:18
Be Oklahoma and are punk
8:20
rock band. Onstage with lights
8:22
and everything and it is great.
8:24
But I have to confess in
8:26
the years since then I heard
8:28
from time to time had occasion
8:30
to ponder my behavior. In
8:33
that artists and any had a
8:35
me says is it. It.
8:38
You're. Eager to say.
8:42
It occurred in that case senate.
8:44
The shoes. Up
8:46
to and maybe even across
8:48
that very thin line. Between.
8:51
Vice. Virtue. I.
8:56
Think if I had to make the argument
8:58
in my defense, I would probably lose. But
9:02
I'm sure of one thing I am
9:04
very confident that is the occasion arises
9:06
again. Knowing. What I Know.
9:10
With all the gills has been weighing on me
9:12
through these years. He.
9:15
Both. Fuckin.
9:23
Once. Been checked.
9:27
A thirty. Sec.
9:42
What was an wheeler and as a
9:44
storyteller musician who device or time putting
9:46
her native Birmingham of mountains and rivers
9:49
of. Western North Carolina. additions
9:51
of family a local history stories
9:53
she loves telling tales from ancient
9:55
scotland and ireland often accompanied them
9:57
with her celtic carp From
10:00
Birmingham to Miami, London to Los
10:02
Angeles, there are Moth Story Slams
10:04
happening throughout the world. If
10:07
you've only listened to Moth Stories in the
10:09
podcast or radio hour, you're missing out. There's
10:12
something special about hearing them live, and
10:14
maybe you'll be tempted to tell one
10:16
yourself. You can
10:18
find upcoming shows, themes, and
10:20
dates by visiting our website
10:23
at themoth.org/events. Our
10:25
next story is from, no points for
10:27
guessing, a Birmingham Story Slam. We
10:29
met Anthony Underwood at a green market
10:31
in Birmingham where his bright smile and
10:34
banana pattern pants drew us over
10:36
to him. When he found out what
10:38
we did at the Moth, he was intrigued. He
10:40
came to a slam, threw his name in a
10:42
hat, and got up on stage to tell his
10:45
story. Here's Anthony Underwood, live
10:47
at the Moth. My
10:51
mother made the best banana
10:54
pudding in the world. Now,
10:56
this is fighting words. This is the South.
10:59
You make those things out of church, somebody's going to end up having
11:02
a brawl and somebody gets hurt. But
11:04
I trust this is a safe environment that I
11:06
can share that, okay? My
11:09
mother, Ruby Lee Underwood, she was
11:11
born in 1929 in Hard Times, Alabama. And
11:15
you can't Google that. That's not
11:17
on the map. It's just a condition that you live
11:20
under during that time. My
11:23
mother had a first child when she was a
11:25
teenager, so she had to quit school. And
11:29
by the time she was 33, she had eight
11:31
of us, and I was the sixth of eight
11:33
kids. She
11:35
was a fighter. I
11:38
remember when I was five years old,
11:40
we moved to government housing. And
11:43
I know how the Beverly Hills
11:45
Billy felt when they moved to Beverly Hills, because to
11:47
me that was a whole new world, you know? So
11:50
we moved from a shotgun house to
11:52
a house that had three bedrooms, and
11:55
most importantly, we had a stove and a refrigerator. And
11:59
you cannot appreciate those things. things until you live
12:01
a short period not having those things. With
12:04
that stove, my mother worked magic. We
12:07
had beans every other week, but she
12:09
made those beans very special. We
12:12
had cornbread. But one thing
12:14
that she made special, and it was to my heart,
12:17
it must have been my birthmark, that she made a
12:19
great banana pudding. Now,
12:21
those who know about real banana pudding, it's not easy to
12:24
make. You've got to stand over that stove and do some
12:26
stirring and make something happen. But
12:28
someone who worked six days a week in
12:31
domestic work to come and
12:33
do that for her loved ones, it was
12:35
very special to me. My
12:38
job at the time was to clean the pot. And
12:41
that was the best job a kid can have. So
12:45
I used that big spoon we called
12:47
a table spoon and
12:49
scraped that pot like a surgeon and make sure all that
12:51
pudding was gotten out of that pot. And
12:54
I cannot tell you that was any greater joy than that.
12:57
My mother, when she made the banana pudding,
12:59
she would sing those gospel songs. The Lord
13:01
would make her way somehow, and she'd always
13:04
give us some type of motivation about life.
13:07
And I tell you, though, when she gave me that pot and
13:10
I cleaned it with that spoon, I don't know what she was talking about,
13:12
but the Lord had made it away from me somehow with
13:14
all that pudding that I was able to eat from that
13:16
spoon. When
13:18
I became at Phoenix High School, I left
13:20
home, my mother's always called me. She
13:22
said, I got something special for you. I
13:25
knew what it was. It was that good old banana pudding. So
13:27
I come and spend time with my mother and share
13:30
ideas and thoughts. In
13:33
1997, she died and the phone
13:36
calls, of course, stopped. It was
13:38
a banana pudding, was no longer
13:40
available. So I
13:42
find myself going to a different restaurant, so when I
13:44
see a banana pudding on the menu, I get excited.
13:47
Wow, banana pudding. But
13:49
more often than not, it wasn't the type of banana
13:51
pudding my mother made. There
13:53
was a pop-up shop in a
13:55
property that we was managing, and
13:58
later was selling banana pudding, and it was a very... attractive,
14:00
looked good, and I
14:02
bought three. You know, banana pudding like religious, if you like,
14:04
you're going to share with someone else. When
14:06
I ate it, I realized it wasn't real banana pudding,
14:08
so I went and told her my dissatisfaction. I said,
14:10
this is not real banana pudding, this is fake, you
14:12
know. My
14:15
wife heard about the conversation and I thought
14:17
that she would console me and say, don't
14:19
worry, honey, we find this banana pudding one
14:21
day, but she turned on me. She
14:25
said I was wrong by speaking to later
14:27
about banana pudding. Everybody makes banana pudding different.
14:29
She said, by the way, if you think you can make one better, make
14:32
it yourself. That wasn't
14:35
what I wanted to hear. So
14:37
I didn't tell her, but at that point, I
14:39
decided to find a way to make banana pudding.
14:43
So that next day, I
14:45
formulated a plan. I
14:48
went on eBay, I went on
14:52
YouTube and did my research about banana
14:54
pudding. I
14:56
talked to relatives who knew about my mother, banana pudding,
14:58
and I got some ideas from that. So
15:01
one Saturday evening, I went to
15:03
Walmart and spent $35 to buy
15:05
the ingredients for banana pudding. Now,
15:08
I know some of the ingredients we probably had in
15:10
the house, but obviously, I figured I wanted to do
15:12
it this way. If I did not succeed, I put
15:14
it all in the garbage can and never tell my
15:16
wife about the banana pudding trial. But
15:20
I made the banana pudding, I
15:23
put it in the refrigerator to chill, with
15:25
my wife over the next morning, I said, hey, I got
15:27
something to try. I
15:30
told her I made a banana pudding. And
15:32
she didn't believe me. She thought maybe it was too fair, it might
15:34
have brought a banana pudding or something. I don't know. But
15:37
anyway, she tried and she told me something I couldn't believe.
15:39
She said, this is the best banana pudding I ever tasted.
15:43
Took her to work. People loved it. One of
15:45
these, why don't you make one for us for a gathering
15:50
for Thanksgiving. I
15:52
did that. And she said, what's
15:54
your charging for? $50. I figured
15:56
I'd spend $35 for my initial ingredient. and
16:00
$15 for the hand mixer. And
16:05
she paid for it. And I cannot tell you the
16:07
joy that someone's willing to pay that kind of money
16:09
for the banana pudding that I made. And
16:12
I thought by my mother, she worked, I mean,
16:15
probably a whole month, and she didn't
16:17
make $50 back in those days. So
16:19
it was a confirmation. My
16:23
banana pudding now is being sold at Pop-Up
16:25
Shot. We've got a certain restaurant
16:27
here at the banana pudding. And people love
16:29
it. And they always say the same thing.
16:32
It tastes like mama banana pudding. So
16:35
somehow her transcending
16:37
to me how to make a banana pudding, I
16:40
was able to do what she did and it's made with love.
16:43
Thank you. That
16:52
was Anthony Underwood. In
16:54
2003, Anthony Underwood was on the
16:56
cover of Used Car Dealership magazine
16:58
as the automotive dealer of the
17:00
year. Now he
17:02
produces and sells his mom's homestyle
17:04
banana pudding online at
17:06
nannaspudding.com and at local
17:09
Birmingham merchants. After Anthony
17:11
told his story, he actually shared some
17:13
of his legendary banana pudding with the
17:15
audience. I can confirm that it is
17:17
delicious. Remember, you
17:19
can find Birmingham Story Slam dates
17:21
at themoth.org/events, where you can also
17:24
find details about all of our
17:26
other open mics and shows. We'll
17:28
also have a link in our episode
17:30
description. That's it for this episode.
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If you like these stories, be sure to share
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as it comes out. From all of us
17:42
here at the Moth, we hope to see you and hear
17:44
your stories soon. Suzanne
17:47
Rust is the Moth's senior curatorial producer and one
17:49
of the hosts of the Moth Radio Hour. In
17:52
addition to finding new voices and fresh
17:54
stories for the Moth stage, Suzanne creates
17:56
playlists and helps curate special storytelling events.
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Haberman, Christina Norman, Jennifer Hixon, Meg
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