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The Moth Radio Hour: When We Were Young

Released Tuesday, 11th June 2024
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The Moth Radio Hour: When We Were Young

Tuesday, 11th June 2024
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today. From

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Meg Bowles. We all have

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childhood memories. Some fond, some

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painful. Some childhoods are full

2:01

of dreams and wishes, while others are more

2:03

focused on survival. In this

2:05

hour, we bring you three stories. From a

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small town in Texas to upstate New York,

2:10

to the southeast of England, we'll hear how

2:12

different and yet how similar the experience of

2:14

growing up can be. Our

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first story comes from Sifras Mansour. He shared

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it live on stage at Alice Tully Hall

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at Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts in

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New York City. Here's Sifras

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Mansour live at The Moth. So there

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were no photographs of my parents' wedding

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day in

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the house when I was growing up. I

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grew up in a town called Luton, just outside of London

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in the 1980s. And

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my parents were Pakistani Muslims and

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they'd had an arranged marriage and apparently

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it had been such an uneventful day

2:57

that nobody could remember the day, the week,

2:59

the month, or even the year that it

3:01

happened. Now,

3:05

my parents were many things, but the

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one thing they definitely weren't was in love.

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And the word love

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was never used in our house. It

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was completely taboo. You could almost say

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that love was a four-letter word. And

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so I was never told I love you before

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I went to bed. Nobody told me I love you before

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I went to school. And

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my parents never said, I love you to each

3:30

other. And they made out

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that this was a really good thing

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because their argument was that white people

3:36

fell in love, got married

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and then got divorced. Pakistanis

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never loved the people they married, but

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we stuck with them forever. So

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my parents thought it was their duty to sort of

3:53

keep me away from the idea of love and

3:56

any kind of intimacy. And one way they did this

3:58

was by making sure that I had a that

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I ended up at the highway, which I crossed.

48:02

And then I went down through the town cemetery

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and the town golf course and all the way

48:06

into the center of town. And in the center

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of town, I just happened to run into my

48:10

best friend, Paul. And I was so

48:12

relieved to see him. But I

48:14

couldn't bring myself to tell him what had happened.

48:17

I was certain that it was both

48:19

a great love story and

48:22

completely pathetic. Afterward,

48:26

for months, I was embarrassed

48:28

and heartsick. And on instant

48:31

messenger, I was always away.

48:35

And my away messages were

48:37

often dashboard confessional lyrics. And

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I think I could tell you that that was the

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end of the story. And I think if I did

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tell you that, that would be kind of like saying

48:51

that God lives up in the sky. And

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the truth is, the story really didn't

48:58

end there, although I was sure that

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it had. A

49:04

couple years later, when she and I

49:06

were both juniors in high school, we

49:09

got cast as husband and wife in the

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school play. We

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were Mr. and Mrs. Keller in the

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very serious drama, The Miracle Worker, the

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story of how Helen Keller learned to

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read and write. And

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all of a sudden, I didn't need to think of

49:26

anything to say to her anymore. It was all just

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written out for me. And

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I don't know if that's why, but even

49:34

in between scenes, she and I found

49:37

we could talk easily and joke easily.

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And we laughed a lot more than

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I'd ever laughed with anybody. In

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the play, I was supposed to

49:48

be Helen Keller's father, this stern,

49:50

sad, southern man. And I

49:52

really wanted to do a good job. But at

49:54

rehearsal, all I thought about was talking with her

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and laughing with her. There

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was this one moment where she and I were

50:02

laughing so hard We were just crying and then

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the lights came up and the scene started

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and I had to slam my fist on

50:09

the dining room Table and shout damn it

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Katie. She can't see That's

50:17

the southern accent that I prepared for

50:19

the role And

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so the play was bad But

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by the end of it she and I were headed out on our

50:36

first date We

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went to Applebee's This

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It was early winter in

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Western New York when everything is gray

50:50

The slush on the ground was gray the

50:52

strip mall was gray The sky

50:55

was low and gray and to me

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on that night it all felt Endless

51:01

and it seemed entirely possible

51:04

that God lives everywhere These

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days max Garcia Conover lives in a

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small town in Maine He

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is a songwriter and splits his time

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between writing touring and teaching He

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says his songs are both personal and political

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and when he performs he'll often tell stories.

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I saw the

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scatter that stream Down

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to the century trees you

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can see a picture of max and find out more

51:39

about his music on our website the moth org Max's

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latest album is called among horses 3

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you're listening to a track from it

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now called crow song slate

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rockin teaming with carry

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on bird caught in killed

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by collision with door Endowment

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for the Arts. The Moth Radio

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Hour is presented by PRX. For

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more about our podcast, for information

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on pitching us your own story,

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and everything else, go to our

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website, themoth.org.

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