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This episode contains disturbing content,
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including discussions about high control groups,
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eating disorders, and sexual assault. Please
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take care while listening.
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Kiss. Beep.
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Some people are seekers. Maybe
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they go to church or escape to nature,
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searching for answers to life's big
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questions,
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searching for a place to belong.
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In 2006, a yoga studio called
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Yoga to the People offered just that.
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It opened in Manhattan's East Village.
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As our base becomes really solid, really strong,
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we grow lighter through the heart. So lift
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the heart up toward the ceiling as you tuck the tailbone
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under.
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In the early aughts, yoga was becoming
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very popular, but a lot of the studios
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were not accessible, especially
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in New York, where class packages
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could cost hundreds of dollars. But
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Yoga to the People was different. Classes
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were donation-based, with a suggested
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donation of just $10.
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The first Yoga to the People studio opened
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just blocks from the NYU campus.
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It was like a dream come true. It was donation-based, but $10
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suggested yoga all hours,
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it seemed, like, from morning to night.
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Yoga to the People attracted everyone from
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college students to celebrities. Influencer
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Hilaria Baldwin, wife to Alec Baldwin,
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taught there for a while. Along with Swedish
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reality TV star-turned-princess
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Sofia Christina Helkvist. At
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the front of every class was always
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this group of beautiful, advanced
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women, Yoga to the People's top
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staff. It felt like a
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cool kids' club, a cool girls' club. You
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know, I just really wanted to be a part of it. It
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was
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founded by Greg Gamusio, a
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charismatic guy who went on to build
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a yoga empire based
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on the idea that yoga was not just for the
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elite, it was for everyone. Thus
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the name, Yoga to the People. Greg
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would often read the.
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mantra to the class at
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the end of class. Okay, here
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we go. This yoga is for everyone. This
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sweating and breathing and becoming, this
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knowing, glowing feeling, is for
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the big, small, weak and strong,
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able and crazy. Brothers, sisters,
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grandmothers, the mighty and meek, bones
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that creak, those who seek, this power
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is for everyone. Yoga to the people,
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all bodies rise. I
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just got chills reading that. But
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not in
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the way you think. I was just
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thinking everything that this says is
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the opposite of what he did and
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what he created.
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Greg Gomusio built a yoga empire
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around the idea that everyone
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should have affordable access to the healing
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power
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of yoga. But actually
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belonging in Greg's inner circle came
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at a great price. He was not
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the benevolent yogi that the world believed
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him to be.
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Behind the loving mantras and
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the thriving studios was
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a man obsessed with making money
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and controlling women.
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I would hear all the places bugged, like
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he knows everything that you're doing. He
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sleeps with all the teachers. It's a cult. He
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hits the teachers. So
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I was scared of what he could physically do as well.
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I was in a state of survival. And he put all
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of these controls around us in such a way
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that it felt like we had no
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way to get out. It was extremely painful
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and difficult. And I did not know that
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I was in a cult yet. From
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Jill Bain is a yoga teacher in Florida,
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but back in 2008, she was a struggling
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musician in New York City, bartending
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to make ends meet.
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One night at work, Jill's friend recommended
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this amazing place, Yoga
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to the People.
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I had been complaining that I was poor
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because being an artist in New York City
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is really challenging. And
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on top of that, my knee was bothering me. I
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wasn't even having trouble working out at all.
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So she said, you should come with me to this place
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in St. Mark's place called Yoga to the People.
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At the time, Jill was craving community,
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a place where she could feel safe enough
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to be herself, to connect with other artists
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and find support. And when Jill
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got to the Yoga to the People studio, it
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seemed like just that kind of place. The
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class was buzzing. There were people wall
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to wall chatting as they waited
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for their teacher to arrive.
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Everyone seemed to know everyone.
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I mean, there was probably 50, 60 students
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in there, mat to mat. And everybody
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was talking and there was a lot of energy
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in the room.
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And there seemed to
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be these women who I now know were teachers
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kind of running around, like
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preparing for his big entrance.
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And then Jill noticed a man enter
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the studio. She
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quickly realized this was who all
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the buzz was about.
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He had at the time dark, like
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almost black hair, brown, dark brown, pretty
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fit. I'd say maybe
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five, ten, five, eleven. He had
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a handsome face. I thought he was attractive. I
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thought maybe he was 40, but he
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was much older than that. Before
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Jill knew who this man was,
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she knew he was important by the way people
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treated him. He had a presence
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about him that she couldn't help but notice. And
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he noticed her doing it.
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I remember that he
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looked at me. He stopped like
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dead in his tracks and stared at me
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in a way that made me feel... I don't
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know how to describe it. It felt like I
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almost like we had a moment. I
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felt seen by someone
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important
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and so there was this like elusive
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nature to the moment and to him
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which I immediately noticed that
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he was like the star. Jill
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had locked eyes with Greg Gamuseo,
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the owner and founder of Yoga to the People.
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Jill would later come to understand
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that Greg's attention was like currency
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at Yoga to the People and on this
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day he chose to focus it on
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her.
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I had really short hair at
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the time and so I didn't bring
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a hair tie because I didn't realize what I was
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getting into and he came over and gave me
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a hair tie and
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I just felt noticed by him. I felt
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seen and that felt good to me. Abruptly
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the class began. I saw
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him kind of shut
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the door and he just said child's pose and
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he yelled it out
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really loud and immediately everyone
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in the room got silent and the energy
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really shifted and the music started playing.
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Jill said all the women in the front row
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were beautiful and fit and really
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good at yoga and they all seemed
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like close friends. I remember
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thinking oh wow like who are all these
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people in the front row they're so good at this
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and he kept adjusting them and touching them
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and addressing them and Jill didn't
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know it yet but these women were all part
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of Greg's inner circle. The ones
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who lived and breathed Yoga to
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the People. The ones who everyone
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noticed because Greg had first
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noticed them. What
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were the demographics of that class or
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most of the classes you know was it mostly women
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young women or what was there a range?
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Mostly women some men but
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mostly women. attractive,
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pretty skinny, I would say NYU age
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people. And
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what made you want to return after that first
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class? Him, his
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energy, the class, everyone
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was excited to be there. It was
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inexpensive. I liked going into the
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city. I liked being on St. Mark's Place.
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I started like three or four days a week.
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At first, Jill couldn't help but be
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charmed by Greg. He was good
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looking, charismatic. He seemed
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to have answers to life's big questions.
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And the way that Greg taught his classes,
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it was unusual to say the least. But
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for Jill at the time,
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there was something refreshing about it. Greg
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encouraged people to release their
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emotions while they practiced yoga.
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The type of music that he
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played in class would often
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evoke an emotional reaction from people.
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And he also encouraged people to
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loudly have their emotional reactions
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in class. So there were oftentimes many people
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crying.
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He described it as dispelling
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energy in the body, negative energy. And
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so he encouraged us to make any sounds
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that we liked audibly.
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And he would mimic some of those sounds, grown. And
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a lot of the women, especially in the front
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row, would make these like overtly
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sexual sounds.
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Jill told me that she had been a gym rat most
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of her life, but she'd never experienced
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anything like this. It felt radical
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and cool and different. And she
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started to gain confidence and make friends
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and feel at home.
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The women that worked there at the time
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that I still consider my friends, they
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were very sexy
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and they were really cool. And
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they were really nice.
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They gave me physical adjustments.
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And those physical adjustments felt
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intimate, not in a sexual way, but it felt like.
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they saw me and
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they cared about me, you know, and they would
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come up and
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like breathe with me while
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in the adjustment and it just felt like this,
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like a family. G
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and
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she said it in a way that
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made me feel like she had been thinking
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about me. Like, I like you
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should really do this training. I think you would make a good teacher.
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Jill felt chosen and it felt good.
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What were your hopes and dreams
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for it at that moment? How did you feel and what did
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you want from this? My goal
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was to be like
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in the top 10 teachers
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that he had because they were on salary.
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They made a living teaching yoga and
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I wanted to have a job
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that I liked not working in bars
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and then also be able to do my music. And
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I really saw a potential for
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success in that.
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She signed up for the training but had to borrow
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money from a friend in order to do it.
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Back in 2008, each student had
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to pay around $2,500 for the course, which was a lot
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of money to
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Jill at that time. But
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she saw it as an investment in her
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future. She showed up that first
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day excited, ready to dive
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in and learn. But
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on that day, she noticed something
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puzzling about Greg and the teachers.
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Greg came in with his
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young son,
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who was three at the time, maybe three and
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a half. And he had these
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three women come in and
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sort of play with the boy. And
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it felt like I could there were three
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women there. And I was like, which one
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is his wife? Because all of them
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were handling.
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his son like they were his mother. This
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was one of the first instances in
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which Jill noticed that the boundaries
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between employee and employer were
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a little blurred. Were
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they all involved with Greg romantically?
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But Jill put that thought out of her mind because
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Greg and his teachers all but guaranteed
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a psychic shift with this teacher
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training. Your life will never
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be the same in this training, but
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there are going to be points where you don't understand
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what's going on. Greg said this to me personally,
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um, on
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several occasions, like
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you might notice as
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you go through this training that your family doesn't
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seem to understand you where
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you notice that they are starting to distance
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themselves from you or that you are starting
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to distance yourself from them.
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But families
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can be chosen sometimes and
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we, we are your family. Jill
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told me that she had experienced a lot of emotional
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abuse as a child and she was still dealing
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with that at yoga to the people.
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She felt supported, known, accepted.
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It was almost like Greg knew exactly
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what to say to her, exactly what
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she wanted to hear in order
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to gain her total
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loyalty.
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Yoga to the people's teacher training was over
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two months long and took place over the
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course of 10 weekends.
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They learned everything from anatomy to
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the different types of yoga to philosophy.
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to how to lead a class and make adjustments
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to students.
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Jill took the training seriously.
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She wanted to be in that front
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row of women in all of Greg's yoga
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classes.
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She wanted to be a great teacher.
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According to Jill, there was nothing unusual
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about the teacher training.
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That is, until the third weekend.
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Greg had one
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of his senior teachers go to the front
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of the room
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and face us. And we were all standing in
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rows, separated about
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six feet apart. And he told
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us that
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we need to stand with our arms raised like
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this for
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an hour. And I was like, what? That's
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it. At first, it almost
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sounded comical. Raise your
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arms up, hold them up. That's it?
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I don't know why. I thought that that would not
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be a big deal,
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but
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it was the most excruciating,
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psychologically taxing thing
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I think other than giving birth that
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I've ever done.
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And he had teachers standing behind
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all of us
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so that we wouldn't drop our arms because
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I wanted to, but
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we were not allowed to. And we had to slowly
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lower them
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over the course of the first 30 minutes. And
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then the course of the rest of their 30 minutes, we had to slowly
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lift them back up. And our arms had
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to be engaged. We had to be standing
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in mountain pose the whole time.
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And by the time we were done,
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there was not a dry eye in the house. People
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were in puddles on the floor,
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crying like convulsively crying,
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hyperventilating, screaming.
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And it was a very vulnerable
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moment.
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And he encouraged us to have those
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emotional reactions. And
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the woman at the front, who was one
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of his senior teachers, she was doing it
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too. And she was crying too. And we were all
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having this experience together. But
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there's the psychological element
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to it. And also he was blasting Celine
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Dion music the whole time.
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Like Celine Dion ballads.
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Everyone in the class was broken
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down at this point, both physically
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and mentally, from the arm-raising exercise.
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They were vulnerable and exhausted.
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And that is precisely when Greg introduced
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the next activity, the circle
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of trust.
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We all got in this big circle. And
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he
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said, this is called the circle
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of trust.
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And each of you are going to stand up
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and go in the middle of
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the circle and tell us something that
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absolutely no one knows
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about you,
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your deepest, darkest
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secret. And he had
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one of the teachers get up and
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give us an example. Show
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us what he means by that. And she
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was like, I was raped.
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And she got down and kind of huddled in
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the fetal position on the floor.
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Jill and the
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rest of the students were stunned. The
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teachers' confession set a very specific
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tone for what the other trainees were
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expected to reveal. A
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lot of it was struggle with substance abuse.
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There were a few eating disorders,
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rape. I
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spent time in jail. I was a criminal.
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All kinds of things like that. Greg
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would encourage people to go as dark as
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possible with their secret.
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If someone didn't say a big enough secret,
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he would scoff at them and tell them to try
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again.
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This was a crucial moment for Jill. She
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knew immediately what her biggest secret
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was. For me, my
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biggest
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thing was my eating disorder. And I carried
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tremendous shame.
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I mean, I remember thinking, I have
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to do this. I have to tell everybody.
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And it's going to be freeing. It's going to be good for
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me. And then I can start to heal. And
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I'll finally get rid of this awful disease or whatever.
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And my heart was pounding. I
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was so scared and I got up and told everybody.
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It was just silent and I
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didn't feel better.
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I felt embarrassed and ashamed.
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And now looking back, I know that this
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was his way, I believe,
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of kind of sussing us out
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and deciding who he could
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manipulate and groom the most.
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Jill wanted to show Greg that she was dedicated
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to yoga to the people, dedicated to
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him.
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So she had opened up and told everyone
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her darkest secret.
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She left that day with a mix of emotions,
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ashamed, but also already
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so deeply devoted to this world
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Greg had created.
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But it turns out that this was not a
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safe world for someone with an eating
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disorder.
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I spoke with Sarah Thomas, who also went
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through the Yoga to the People teacher training.
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She said that some teachers were encouraged
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to lose weight under the guise
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of making their yoga practice stronger.
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They would push it on you if you were close
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to someone and they said, well, maybe you should be vegan.
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Have you thought about losing weight? Your practice
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isn't as strong. Some people would take that to heart
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or feel like you're not being taken
19:10
seriously or judged. So,
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yeah,
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that culture was there. A few of my closest
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teachers actually were really under the
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influence of that. Some people were really,
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they had terrible eating disorders and the behavior
19:23
was just ignored or encouraged.
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After devoting 10 weekends to the teacher
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training, which cost each student $2,500,
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Jill's class graduated and
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everyone prepared to start teaching yoga
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at Yoga to the People. But there
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was another step they had to go through before
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they could actually start getting paid to teach.
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Greg's apprenticeship program.
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It wasn't really an apprenticeship at all. It
19:49
just meant that the newly graduated yoga
19:51
teachers had to teach 25 classes
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at Yoga to the People for free.
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But even after that, getting
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on with it, on the paid teacher training schedule
20:02
wasn't guaranteed. Did you witness
20:05
other people that you knew through
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the teacher trainings, through going to the studio, that went
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through paid for the teacher training and
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then taught free classes
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and then were never hired? Many,
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many. And what reason were they given
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that they weren't hired? They weren't given
20:23
a reason, they were just not put
20:26
back on the schedule. Most,
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but not all, of the classes on the Yoga
20:30
to the People schedule were being taught by
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people who were in this unpaid
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apprenticeship program. Here's
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Sarah again. They have a habit of
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scheduling
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apprentices like
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every day, every week. They prioritize
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new teachers over older teachers. Sarah
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was determined to make Yoga to the People
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a priority in her life, to make
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most of her money by teaching yoga. So
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she made herself completely available to
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the yoga studio. She worked hard. She
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completed the teacher training and then taught 25
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free classes and finally
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made it onto the paid teacher schedule.
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And then she made it another level up.
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She became a caretaker. That's
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a Yoga to the People term for assistant
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manager. So if I'm caretaking,
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then you're automatically guaranteed to teach. We
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got paid $35 a class and
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you get paid once a month. I
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got paid $50 a night for caretaking.
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On top of a class, so
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that's like, what,
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a hundred something dollars for nine
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to 10 hours of labor. Caretakers
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got priority scheduling because they
21:40
were doing a lot of extra work. But
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the reality was they weren't getting paid that
21:45
much more. Yoga to the
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People was spreading like wildfire.
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Every class was packed wall to
21:52
wall with eager students. And
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yet behind the scenes, it was mostly
21:57
running on unpaid and underpaid.
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labor. The
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teachers had been sold an idea that
22:04
being chosen by Greg would eventually
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pay off both spiritually and financially.
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They
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just had to put in some time and effort.
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Jill graduated from the teacher training in 2009,
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and her story is unusual because she was
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one of the very few people who did not have
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to go
22:22
through the apprenticeship program. Greg
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made an exception for her.
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And to this day, Jill doesn't know why
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she was so favored.
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But at the time, it made her feel really
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good, special, chosen.
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We had a personal relationship.
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I felt comfortable texting him and calling
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him.
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And I said, I'm trying to
22:43
move out of my boyfriend's house and I
22:45
really need to be some steady income,
22:49
so he brought me on. I never had to teach
22:51
a class for free. I got
22:53
special treatment.
22:56
Jill was grateful for Greg's help, but
22:59
she also started to feel indebted
23:01
to him.
23:02
One time I needed an advance on my
23:04
pay, and he just gave me $1,000. Or he had his
23:06
supervisor
23:07
pay for my
23:09
deposit on my apartment.
23:11
So that was another
23:13
way of kind of keeping me like, I'll give
23:15
you gifts, I'll take care of you. You're
23:17
not going to be destitute. Another
23:20
time, he offered to pay her to teach him
23:22
guitar. So he's like, come
23:24
to my apartment, I brought my guitar over. He
23:26
took me into the bedroom,
23:28
sat me on the bed, and he said, play this song for
23:30
me.
23:31
And I played the song. And then
23:33
he said, good.
23:34
And he wrote me a check for $200, $250 and told me to leave. And I was like,
23:39
what just happened?
23:42
But over time, Jill felt that she
23:44
owed Greg for all the financial
23:46
help he'd given her. And what Greg
23:49
asked in return was total and
23:51
complete loyalty.
23:53
First of all, we were not allowed to teach
23:55
at other yoga studios. He expected
23:58
total loyalty. Second,
24:00
if we wanted to be on the schedule, we
24:03
needed to send in our availability.
24:05
If our availability wasn't completely
24:08
available,
24:09
you were, like, 95% less likely to be hired.
24:14
By 2010, Yoga to the People had
24:16
three studios across New York City with
24:18
two more on the way. Jill
24:20
said that teachers were supposed to get their
24:22
schedules on Sunday nights, letting
24:25
them know what days and locations
24:27
they would be teaching that week. But
24:29
the schedule never arrived on time,
24:32
and she ended up losing sleep and
24:34
becoming obsessively tied to her phone,
24:36
waiting for the schedule. It would
24:39
often come at the last minute, but
24:41
Greg still expected you to drop whatever
24:43
you were doing
24:44
and go teach a class.
24:46
What happened was, Sunday at midnight,
24:49
we would get partial honey
24:52
Monday and Tuesday, but only two
24:54
studios every night. I'd
24:56
be up till midnight, waiting for the schedule
24:58
to come out to see if I was teaching at 6 o'clock
25:01
in the morning and which studio I
25:03
was teaching at. Not only were
25:05
teachers at the mercy of the schedule,
25:07
they were also only paid once a month,
25:10
and Greg paid everyone in cash.
25:13
The fifth of every month, we had to go
25:15
physically to his apartment, and we would
25:17
be handed an envelope filled with cash.
25:20
Fives and we were lucky 20s,
25:23
you know, and at the time, I was getting about, what
25:26
amounts to about $4,000 a month in cash, and
25:29
I still couldn't afford
25:30
to live. Yoga
25:32
to the People didn't provide employees
25:35
W-2s or 1099s. One
25:38
night, Jill was instructed to
25:40
go to Greg's apartment just
25:41
across from the studio, along
25:44
with a few other teachers for a meeting,
25:46
but Jill found out that there was a name for these
25:49
meetings. They were called stacking
25:51
parties. There were three
25:55
industrial-size black garbage
25:57
bags filled with cash,
25:58
and we were... going over and
26:00
grabbing handfuls of it and,
26:03
you know, flattening it out and sorting
26:06
them. Remember,
26:08
yoga to the people was donation-based,
26:10
and they only accepted cash.
26:13
Some people paid nothing, but many
26:15
paid something, usually the suggested
26:17
amount of $10. And
26:19
with around-the-clock classes, 60
26:22
to 70 students deep every class,
26:24
that's tens of thousands of dollars
26:27
a day, just for one location.
26:29
We were told, do not count the bills.
26:32
Just flatten them out, sort
26:34
them out, and put them into piles. And sometimes
26:36
we would sit on them. I was told
26:38
to sit on the bills. And we drank wine and
26:41
talked about
26:42
surface-y stuff.
26:43
And then
26:45
his right-hand woman would take that money into
26:47
another room, and
26:49
I don't know what happened to it.
27:08
Greg kept the labor costs low,
27:11
but he would often take staff out to
27:13
extravagant dinners in Manhattan's
27:15
top restaurants. At these dinners,
27:17
Greg encouraged people to dish
27:20
about their personal lives.
27:22
Here's Sarah again. Greg would take
27:24
us to expensive dinners at like Nobu
27:27
or
27:28
Rosa Mexicana. We'd always got there.
27:31
And that's when, you know, comments and stuff
27:34
comes out about other teachers or even
27:36
students. The conversation did not
27:38
stay on the topic of yoga. It
27:40
stayed on personal lives.
27:43
Like I told Greg it's none of his business, who
27:45
I'm dating or what I'm interested in, and
27:47
that turns him off. He doesn't want
27:49
to hear that. He wants to hear about your boyfriend
27:52
and how it's going and, you know, oh,
27:54
does he treat you right, et cetera, et cetera. So
27:56
he asked those questions at dinner while I was 19.
27:58
and he
28:00
ordered me a glass of wine.
28:02
Greg had tight control over the
28:05
yoga to the people teachers, and
28:07
over time Jill realized that
28:09
the hold that he had over some of them
28:12
was of a sexual nature.
28:14
He was sleeping with
28:15
almost, if not all, you know,
28:18
most of the
28:19
women. Most of them thought they were his girlfriend
28:22
and had no idea that
28:25
he was sleeping with
28:27
a lot of them. That is how
28:29
much control he had over the narrative,
28:32
and we were not allowed to talk about
28:34
him. That was something that he pressed,
28:37
and I learned that
28:38
the hard way. Sometime
28:40
in mid to late 2010, Jill
28:42
called her superior. She was
28:44
bothered by the rumors about Greg manipulating
28:47
and sleeping with female staff members. Was
28:50
it true?
28:51
She wanted to know.
28:53
I had gone to my superior because
28:55
I had heard some of these things, and I was starting to get
28:57
really concerned and quite frankly, a little
28:59
bit scared. And I said
29:01
to him, you know, I'm
29:04
hearing these rumors, particularly, and
29:06
quite specifically, that Greg has
29:09
a harem
29:11
of women that he controls
29:13
and manipulates. And he was like,
29:16
oh, no, no, no, no, no. He just kind of
29:18
poo-pooed it, and I was like, okay, you know. Jill
29:21
hung up. Then, a few minutes
29:23
later, her phone rang. It
29:25
looked like her manager was calling her right back,
29:28
but it wasn't her manager. When
29:31
I answered the phone, it's not him, it's Greg.
29:34
Screaming into my ear and threatening
29:36
me, don't you ever talk about me.
29:39
You're not allowed to talk about me.
29:41
Why are you talking about me? I gave you
29:43
money. Screaming, screaming about the
29:45
money. And I
29:47
realized in that moment, the only way that
29:49
I could
29:50
survive, get through
29:52
that, was to say that I was
29:54
protecting him. And as soon as I said
29:56
that, he turned it back
29:59
to
29:59
normal.
30:00
And he was like, oh, okay, good. What
30:02
do you mean by protecting him? I said, no,
30:04
no, I told him about that because I was trying to protect
30:06
you. And I wanted him to know what
30:09
people were saying about you. I was trying to
30:11
protect you. That was how I was able
30:13
to spin that so that
30:15
I didn't get fired or, I don't
30:17
know what, not paid or taken
30:20
off the schedule, anything. I mean, in
30:22
that moment, I was so scared because he was threatening
30:24
me. Jill was able to convince
30:27
Greg that she wasn't ratting him out. Instead,
30:29
she was trying to inform him of rumors
30:32
being
30:32
spread about him in order to protect
30:34
his reputation. But the interaction
30:37
left her shaken. Greg's
30:39
attention, which she once craved,
30:42
had turned into something she feared.
30:44
His presence filled her with anxiety.
30:47
And even when he wasn't around, she worried.
30:50
She felt like she was being watched all
30:52
the time. I was told that
30:54
the rooms were bugged, that there were cameras everywhere,
30:57
that there were microphones. Rumor
30:59
or not, there were some visible cameras
31:01
at the studio that I worked at. And Greg
31:04
always seemed to know
31:05
everything that was going on. While
31:07
things were getting progressively worse for
31:09
Jill, the public perception
31:11
of yoga to the people and Greg Gomusio
31:14
was glowing. Greg was
31:16
becoming a star, a yoga celebrity.
31:20
In 2010, the New York Times
31:22
published an article featuring yoga
31:25
to the people called, A Yoga
31:27
Manifesto. In the article,
31:29
Greg sounds like a savior bringing
31:32
yoga to the masses, helping New
31:34
Yorkers find an affordable way to
31:36
heal themselves. In
31:38
the article, Greg speaks profusely
31:41
and admiringly about his teacher, his
31:44
main inspiration, Bikram
31:46
Chaudhry, who at the time was
31:48
probably the biggest name in yoga
31:50
in the United States. I
31:52
think he loved the attention and he loved the
31:55
people, loved him and wanted
31:57
to take his class and his hair.
33:52
for
34:00
free. By 2011,
34:02
Jill realized that her mental health was
34:05
severely suffering. I
34:07
kept thinking
34:08
that I would get to this place where I was
34:10
doing yoga all the time,
34:12
and it
34:13
would make my mind healthier,
34:16
and then I wouldn't have to throw up anymore or
34:18
something. But I kept doing it.
34:20
I wasn't getting better. In fact, I was getting worse
34:23
because I was so stressed out, and that was my
34:25
way of coping.
34:27
Through Jill's vulnerability and openness
34:30
about her past trauma, Greg had learned exactly
34:33
how to control her,
34:34
and she got to a point where she was terrified
34:37
of him all the time, scared
34:39
that he was watching her, scared
34:42
that he would call her and yell and
34:44
berate her.
34:46
Greg was unpredictable. Every few
34:48
weeks, he would arrive in New York unannounced
34:51
to teach a yoga class, and all
34:53
the teachers were expected to attend
34:55
that class, in the front
34:57
row, of course. Greg
34:59
didn't have to be physically present to
35:01
have control over Jill. Just
35:03
the idea that he might reach out to her at
35:05
any point kept her constantly
35:08
on edge.
35:09
She was in an emotionally abusive relationship
35:12
with her yoga teacher and boss, Greg
35:14
Gamousio.
35:16
I was scared all the time. What
35:17
if I had to say the wrong thing? And that was
35:20
very possible because you never knew with
35:22
Greg. It could be anything. And what were
35:24
you scared would happen if
35:26
that happened? You
35:28
know, for me,
35:30
getting fired, getting screamed at, getting
35:32
threatened, because that's what he did. He would scream
35:34
and threaten and
35:36
bully.
35:38
I grew up in an extremely abusive
35:40
household with a very scary, rage-aholic
35:43
father.
35:44
That was a huge trigger for me. I mean, I
35:46
would turn into a five-year-old. Every time
35:49
I saw him calling or
35:50
coming or anything, I would be absolutely
35:53
terrified.
35:54
Jill also felt financially trapped.
35:56
She wasn't making enough money to quit teaching.
35:59
And since she didn't have any official paperwork
36:02
documenting her work at Yoga to
36:04
the People, how could she get a job
36:06
teaching yoga somewhere else?
36:09
I was in a state of survival and he put all
36:11
of these controls around us in such a way
36:13
that we had, it felt like we had no
36:16
way to get out. And I know that sounds
36:19
hard to the layman,
36:21
but it's a very real lived
36:24
experience. It's using fear to
36:26
control people. Yeah. I
36:29
think people that don't maybe understand how
36:32
deep that sort of psychological
36:34
control can get might hear that and
36:36
ask,
36:37
after he yells at you on the phone,
36:40
why didn't you just leave or quit right away?
36:43
Right. I am so
36:45
glad that you brought that up. And that's one of the
36:47
reasons I've been so vocal
36:49
about Greg. A narcissist
36:52
or a sociopath can manipulate
36:54
people, especially that have trauma
36:57
or complex trauma, into
36:59
a level of compliance and fear. And
37:02
so that is how it felt when
37:04
I was there.
37:05
I had reached a breaking point.
37:09
I was very, very skinny.
37:12
I was not
37:13
getting enough sleep. I was not taking care of
37:15
myself.
37:17
I couldn't have really afforded it. I was
37:19
barely making it every month, having
37:21
to borrow money from friends.
37:24
And I
37:25
just started planning my escape.
37:29
And I started mailing my stuff back to my
37:32
mom's home in Colorado,
37:35
where I'm from. And
37:38
I told Greg that,
37:40
I don't know, I think I sent him an email saying
37:42
something had come up
37:44
and that I need to go home
37:45
and that I would be back,
37:47
and then I just never came back. So
37:50
did you feel like you needed to physically
37:52
remove yourself from New York to get out
37:54
of this? And
37:57
that
37:58
is the most devastating part.
37:59
Not that I don't believe everything happens
38:02
for a reason, but
38:04
I had been working as a musician for 15 years.
38:07
And once you remove yourself
38:09
from New York, it's really
38:11
hard to stay in the game, you know?
38:13
Jill left Yoga to the People
38:16
for good in 2012. She still
38:18
kept in touch with Greg through the years,
38:21
afraid that he might retaliate against
38:23
her in some way, still feeling
38:25
somewhat indebted to him.
38:27
She eventually moved to Florida and was
38:29
able to get a job teaching yoga. And
38:33
then one day, in 2016, Greg
38:35
showed up to her yoga class there, unannounced.
38:39
I saw him walking in the parking lot,
38:41
and when I tell you my knees were knocking, my heart
38:44
was racing.
38:45
And I was like, oh my God,
38:48
like, I'm really, I was really scared. So I just
38:50
taught the class. He had never taken my class
38:52
before. He laid on the floor the whole time. He didn't
38:54
even do the yoga.
38:55
He did like the first breathing exercise
38:58
in one
38:58
posture, and then he just laid on the floor. So
39:01
I was just glad when he left. And then after that, I started
39:04
carrying a gun in my purse because I do
39:06
not feel safe around him. Yoga
39:08
to the People carried on for eight more
39:10
years after Jill left. But
39:12
in July of 2020, all locations
39:15
shut down, allegedly due to
39:17
the pandemic.
39:19
On July 3rd, 2020, an Instagram
39:21
account was started called YTTP
39:24
Shadow Work. The first post says,
39:27
we are opening up this space for people
39:29
to come and talk about their experiences
39:31
in which they witnessed or were subjected
39:34
to a culture of sexism, racism,
39:36
and misogyny that runs from the head of the
39:38
company. The Instagram
39:41
posts were all anonymous, but the
39:43
page is full of extensive allegations
39:45
of abuse within yoga
39:47
to the people. In one post, a
39:49
woman explained that she was a trainee
39:51
in 2008 right out of college. When
39:54
Greg asked her to babysit for his young son,
39:57
he
39:57
then slept with her and made inappropriate
39:59
gestures to her in front of other
40:02
teachers. Another woman
40:04
told a story about going out to dinner with
40:06
Greg and being fed tequila shots
40:09
as Greg later started groping her and
40:11
tickling her back at his apartment.
40:14
There were hundreds of other posts just like
40:16
these, illustrating a culture
40:19
of manipulation, sexual abuse,
40:21
and illegal labor practices, all
40:24
orchestrated by Greg Gammusio. Other
40:27
posts claimed that the annual estimated
40:29
unpaid wages for Yoga to the People
40:32
employees was easily hundreds of
40:34
thousands of dollars. Investigators
40:36
paid attention to those numbers because two
40:39
years later, in August of 2022, Greg,
40:42
along with his wife, Haven Solomon, and
40:44
business partner Michael Anderson, were
40:47
arrested for a $20 million
40:49
tax fraud scheme. Three
40:51
leaders of the now defunct Yoga Studio
40:54
chain, Yoga to the People, are facing
40:56
federal tax fraud charges. Investigators
40:59
say the studio leaders accepted donations in cash,
41:02
paid instructors off the books, and did not
41:04
keep financial records. If convicted,
41:06
the defendants each face a maximum
41:09
of 30 years in prison.
41:11
The indictment alleges that Greg participated
41:13
in a scheme to evade taxes with various
41:16
business entities and bank
41:18
accounts, and used those entities
41:20
to pay for lavish personal expenses,
41:23
including over $200,000 in plane tickets and over $75,000 in
41:25
hotels.
41:30
According to court documents, Greg
41:32
and his partner Michael Anderson, at
41:35
one point, fabricated a tax return
41:37
so that Greg could purchase a house. They
41:40
emailed each other about who too fraudulently
41:42
say prepared the tax form.
41:45
There were other emails, too, Greg
41:47
ordering staff to deposit cash
41:49
in their names so that his income
41:51
remained undetected.
41:53
He also instructed staff to deposit
41:56
cash amounts under $10,000 so as not to attract
41:59
detention from the IRS.
42:02
Greg used his cult of personality
42:04
to convince people to work for him for
42:07
free, to convince them that they
42:09
were part of a greater purpose and
42:11
to control them for his own benefit.
42:15
All of the yoga to the People Studios shut
42:17
down in 2020 never to
42:19
reopen.
42:21
When Jill received the news about Greg's
42:23
arrest, she felt vindicated.
42:26
My girlfriend sent me the press release
42:28
from the Department of Justice, and
42:31
I just jumped up and down elatedly,
42:34
screaming, like crying.
42:36
I'm getting chills thinking about it. I just
42:38
felt validated
42:40
and, like, also not
42:43
completely safe, but just
42:45
validated. Greg Amusio
42:47
is currently being monitored from his home
42:49
in Washington state. He is restricted
42:52
to Washington, Oregon, and the state of
42:54
New York, where he awaits
42:56
his trial. He
42:59
is a
43:15
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43:17
podcast. It's produced by me,
43:19
Hannah Smith, along with Natalie Gregory
43:22
and Sarah Douglas. Colin Thompson
43:24
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43:26
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43:28
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43:31
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43:33
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43:35
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