Host Lia Howard talks with Efrén Olivares about his work at the Southern Poverty Law Center and his stunning book, "My Son Will Die of Sorrow, a memoir of immigration from the front lines". In it, Efrén weaves together his experience as a human rights lawyer working for the Texas Civil Rights Project in 2018, when the Trump administration instituted the zero tolerance policy and began to separate families at the border with his own story as an immigrant to the U.S.. Efrén shares his career journey towards social justice work and opens up about the necessary shift in mind-set to make the challenging work sustainable.

This is the first conversation in the new series of The PARK featuring Penn alumni working to change some of America's most intractable social problems. We ask them how are they taking care of themselves so that they can sustain their fight on behalf of others. It examines the intellectual, social and contemplative practices that leaders in the arena of social change are embracing to inform their work, offering examples and real world experiences. This series speaks to current Penn undergrads, hoping to better undergird their own social action with integrative and sustaining practices.

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