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Hello beautiful people and welcome

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to our humble abode the

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Thunderdome on this McGee feel

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good Friday May 24 2024

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this program starts now Speed

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is what I feel Through my

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entire body right now not because we're

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coming upon the greatest race weekend of

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the entire year No, no, it's

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because today in this particular Thunderdome

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on this stage. We have royalty

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racing royalty sports royalty Southern

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royalty, it's not the talks at table at Boston

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Connor and that Ty Schmidt sweet shirt though. Thank

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you very much I appreciate that green green ones

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deep go so Sorry,

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that was hard right here boys didn't seem to

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have their juice They'll be back home obviously on

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Saturday Celtics are up to 0 in the Eastern

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Conference Finals of the NBA over the Indiana Pacers

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last night wasn't great for us And what's going

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on with Tyreese Hallibur? Well, Sean Sharani

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on in about 10 minutes Hopefully he'll have a little bit

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more information than what we're hearing from the team team has

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to report to league though by 5 p.m today

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on what that injury is and I'll tell you if

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it is a real one

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which Could be you know There's

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a chance with how much Tyreese Halliburton has played this

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year how great he has played the injuries that could

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potentially happen How awkward it kind of looked as it was

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taking place last night in the third quarter That's

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gonna be tough for the Pacers, but we got

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a deep squad. We're a bunch of dogs We

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won't complain about injuries because it's professional sports is

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a playoffs But we will certainly acknowledge that it

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would suck if Tyreese Halliburton Got

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injured last night and is able to or is gonna

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miss some games. We'll find out more hopefully from Sean

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Sharani It's not because of that though. No, no why

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today is gonna be a memorable day a memorable day

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for the rest of our lives It's not because one

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half of the hammer down Cowboys time digs here.

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Hey nips to see you pal It is

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a two brothers for easy to hear It

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feels good. How could you not be sweat? How could

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you not feel the heat? How could you not feel

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the speed ladies and gentlemen joining us now is hosted

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Marty McGee he's

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host of Basically anything

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southern that has happened in sports

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over the last 30 years. I got a free

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ESPN. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen Senior

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writer at espn.com currently embedded with

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Kyle Larson as he will be taking

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on the double on Sunday But the

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Indy 500 and the coke Coles 600

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1100 miles a race in this man's fall. Yeah

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as he's punching microphones Everything

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I dreamed it would be I literally walked in

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the door and I you know you see it

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on TV But you don't actually know that it's

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an actual dome and like you know I mean

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I just think about it I walked in y'all

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had that y'all had that headshot that

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they use right you know I look like I'm gonna talk

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to you about your relationship with Jesus Here

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we are in a place where I mean at some

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point yeah Here

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yeah, no this is this is amazing. I'm glad to

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be here boys. Yeah, well We're lucky to have you

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and Jesus used to live here. You know and I

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know Jesus everywhere Yeah, he's asking somebody that's dressed like

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that looks like that But he did

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leave a little extra juice for us And I'll tell you

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what it does feel like the heavens have blessed us with

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you being in Indianapolis covering the Indy 500 Being

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able to join us live in studio texted you uh

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Five days ago yeah, well you said I'll be

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in Indy and I said well is

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this happening Yeah, no dude. It was like a

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it was like a mind-meld like thing because I

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literally was gonna text you like Wednesday Hey, man,

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gonna be in town, and I woke up like

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Monday morning, and I had a text from you.

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Yeah Yeah, and all I said was McGee My

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queen, ooh No,

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it's great to be here now. Yeah in town for the Indy

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500. I think it's like my me my 20th and And

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it's uh it is I

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have lived through this thing like I started

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cover motorsports in the 90s I this thing was the

3:40

biggest deal in the world and they ripped it apart Yeah,

3:42

they killed the goose looking for golden eggs,

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which feels very relevant and collegiate athletics right

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now Oh, we'll talk about that Pete Campbell

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joining us Who's just been

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Pete's not slept in two weeks by the way

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two years Yeah, like four bylines on espn.com here

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today. It was nuts, but but yeah, so but

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I've seen the race I've

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seen a byline is by Ryan

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McGee by Pete Tamil. Yeah, all

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right. He has four bylines. If

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you write something for something and it says by

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so and so, that is a line that says

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it was by you. It is a byline. Oh

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yeah. By Pete Tamil, by damn, my colleagues

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have been very busy and I was like,

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I ain't done nothing. I was

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kind of here. I really enjoyed. So on

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the phone, when Pete gets rolling dude, you

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wake up and literally they'll be

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17 emails and it's Pete going, getting

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on a plane, you know, so and

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so strength coach at Northern Arizona

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is getting sued for whatever. I can't write about it

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and I wanted to give you a heads up getting

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on a plane. It's like that will

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be there. And then there's responses like 40 emails a

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day from Pete. But anyhow, point is it's great to

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be an Indy. They

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tore it apart though. What do you mean by that?

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They tried to overexpose it. They tried to change the

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rules, change the cars. Yeah. So

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you have this massive property, right? The Indy

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500 and then you have open world racing,

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you know, Indy car racing. And

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back in the mid nineties, they literally split

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any car racing into two different series because

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the two groups didn't agree on

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how it was being run. But the one thing that

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had, we're fighting over was the one thing again,

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it's kind of like we've seen in collegiate athletics.

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They're all basically fighting over football money and basketball

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money. You know, the rest of it

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is just collateral damage and that's what's happening to have

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it in the speedway. And they're just now in the

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last, I would say in the last five or six

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years, you'd go down the racetrack and it feels like

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it did in the nineties

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before they tore it apart. But

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I've written this column a hundred times. Byline. Right.

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Bylines. When it comes to motorsports,

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I wrote it when Texas and Oklahoma were coming to the SEC

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when that news broke, I wrote a story about

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it. Be careful. And I think I said it on

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the show before, which is there's a cautionary tale in

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motorsports because when you're making money and

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you're selling 350,000 tickets and the TV ratings are

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through the roof, it's very easy to make stupid decisions.

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We want more. And you think you're fine. Although they'll

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just show up. And I'm telling you right

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now, I've witnessed it in Indianapolis, I've witnessed it in NASCAR.

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They won't just show up. If the

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sport doesn't look like the sport they grew up with,

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and the sport doesn't look like what they love, and

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Saturdays don't feel like Saturdays, and

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I don't know who the hell I'm playing this weekend, and

6:18

I don't understand how the post-season works, and I

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don't know who these players are anymore, then

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suddenly- And these players don't care about my school.

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That's it. Yeah, that's the big thing. They don't

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know we're passionate about the thing that we're passionate

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about. And in my world, in the Southeast

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where I grew up, we

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didn't watch the NFL, because we didn't have the NFL.

6:35

We had Redskins that were on the TV, and nobody-

6:38

The game! The sideline, not anymore.

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But nobody paid any attention to the Falcons, nobody

6:42

cared, but in the Southeast, the reason we love

6:44

college football like we do, is because that's what

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we had. But when Saturdays

6:49

start looking like Sunday, we don't

6:51

watch the NFL really. And so,

6:53

when everything about college football looks like

6:55

the NFL, and it's a great business

6:57

decision, but it's a terrible look,

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right? It's a terrible, but you think, what you

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used to always say NASCAR was, I

7:04

was sitting in these meetings, I worked at NASCAR very briefly in

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the mid-20s, I was sitting in these meetings, and

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people that weren't, only gonna be there a couple

7:10

years, they would know country music, and you can't

7:12

say the word moonshine and all that stuff, and

7:15

they left Darlington Raceway to go to California, all

7:17

that stuff, and they're like, oh, don't worry, the

7:19

core fan base, they'll stick around. And they didn't,

7:22

because they were like, what the hell is this? Turns

7:24

out, this ain't hard, you guys hijacked all the things.

7:27

So don't assume. Well, hold on now, this goes

7:29

on, the bigger conversation is right now. I know

7:31

you've been around ESPN a long time, but

7:33

there were some decisions I think being made at, not

7:37

just ESPN, but a lot of networks that necessarily

7:39

weren't proud of potentially some of the people

7:41

that were maybe watching their network, and forgot

7:43

that they were running it, for instance, when

7:45

Dude Wipes became a sponsor, first time ESPN

7:47

ever let Dude Wipes be a sponsor of

7:49

a show, because they thought the name was

7:51

too bro-y. So

7:54

they didn't even wanna do business with Dude Wipes,

7:56

because they thought it was too bro-y or whatever.

7:58

It's like, who do you think? You

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know some bros watch, like there

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is a chance some bros watch sports. You know,

8:05

and dumps happen. There's

8:09

a case that takes place. So whenever

8:11

you talk about NASCAR being like no

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country music, like how isn't the immediate

8:15

thought like hey, you know like moonshiners

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and like literally in the

8:19

south, like this is how this whole thing started.

8:21

Why would you want to attack, I don't know.

8:24

There's a lot of decisions. People were making decisions

8:26

that didn't genuinely love the sport. And

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that's what I worry about. College

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football as well? Yeah, exactly. That's what I

8:32

worry about right now, which is people making

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decisions based on making money, which is their

8:37

job to make money. And if

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Texas and Oklahoma called, then you say yes. And if

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you're the Big Ten and USC and UCLA call, you

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say come on. Because if you don't do that, you're

8:46

gonna get fired. That's what you're getting judged upon by

8:48

some people. But what you can't do is you can't

8:50

get so far away from what

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everyone fell in love with. It's like

8:54

being married. You

8:56

follow the love with the person that you fall in love with. They

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keep changing and changing and changing. You keep changing.

9:02

One day you wake up and you go, who

9:04

the hell is this? Why am I, remember, this

9:06

isn't, and you don't understand what happened. It's

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the old frog on the frying pan, right? They talk about you

9:10

put the frog in the frying pan and if it's hot immediately,

9:13

he's gonna get out of there. But if you just turn it

9:15

up a little bit, turn it up a little bit, he's gonna

9:17

cook him. Before he realizes what happened,

9:19

he's done. And that's what I worry about with

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college sports. I get the business decisions.

9:23

I get where it's all going. But

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if the damn sport looks like the NFL,

9:27

then it's no longer class football. It's

9:30

an NFL point too. That's

9:33

not what people want, I don't think. Well,

9:35

there's some people, I think, that are the

9:37

casual college football fans that like football and

9:39

some of the teams that watch prime time

9:41

and watch Game Day in the morning. And

9:43

that whole thing. But after experiencing Game Day,

9:45

and I've said this numerous times into this

9:48

microphone, boy,

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there are people, it's a religion. Obviously,

9:53

Jesus Christ in every video.

9:55

But I'm saying, my daddy?

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My daddy's daddy. And guess what? what my

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daddy's daddy's daddy's daddy all sat in

10:02

this same exact seat right here and

10:04

my kid is gonna sit missing go

10:06

to this institution go to this school

10:08

we're gonna support this team and then

10:10

it's like you do hear the the

10:12

rumblings who's the guy that wrote the

10:14

that read some stuff for game day

10:16

right Thompson yeah right Thompson his first

10:18

essay last year for college game

10:21

day whenever we were in North Carolina

10:23

South Carolina I don't hear that until

10:25

we're live on air those feet he he read the essay

10:27

and we're in the middle of a time and he literally

10:29

said but I guess we're

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gonna still just watch I guess and I

10:33

was like oh

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shit okay so then as you go to like

10:39

some of these schools we got to do some

10:41

of these simulcast and we're on the field and

10:43

everything and you start seeing like the reaction the

10:45

passion it's like we can't lose this you know

10:47

like the pageantry and the passion is what college

10:49

football is that's why yesterday's ruling by the NCAA

10:51

and I think Pete Thammell will be joining us

10:53

here in a matter of little moments or seconds

10:55

or whatever it's like at 1230 I mean

10:58

like I'll be excited to hear his

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breakdown on how we got here and

11:03

how we're not gonna kind of trick

11:05

off the entire pageantry of what college

11:07

ball is yeah and it's just there's

11:10

nothing wrong with change I want to understand that

11:12

you know I went to Tennessee and Nealon Stadium

11:14

needs some updating they're gonna do it about to

11:16

spend a ton of money to update the place

11:19

and you should do that but it still needs

11:21

to look and feel like Nealon Stadium when you

11:23

go in there and so that to

11:25

me that's the that's the perfect illustration because you

11:28

can't get so far away you can't assume they're

11:30

just gonna show up you know I go back

11:32

to like some of these rivalries I mean Marshall

11:35

West Virginia I go back to some of these rivalries

11:37

that everyone lived by and then they took

11:40

it away and then the assumption was well

11:42

one day it'll come back and when it does everybody

11:44

just jump back on board no they won't I mean

11:46

you you can't assume they're gonna do it you hope

11:48

they're gonna do it and so you just you have

11:50

to make sure that you know change is

11:52

fine but there can't be so much change all

11:55

at once agreed change so you know I'm

11:57

gonna fry them but I go back to

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my dad That was a college football referee

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every summer. My dad would be at the swimming

12:03

pool, going through whatever. They would change a rule,

12:05

they would change a couple of rules every other

12:08

year. And they would do it slow on purpose.

12:11

This rule change is coming in two years. Alright, now

12:13

we can coach it up, we can coach it up

12:15

in practice, get ready for it. But everything moved at

12:18

that pace for a long time and now there's just

12:20

so much change all the time that what you don't

12:22

want is, you don't want

12:24

Pete Thamel's five stories to become the only

12:26

thing anyone was talking about. What

12:28

I'm talking about is how good his drawers are going to be. How

12:31

good his drawers are going to be. Yeah, that's

12:33

a baseball. 100% yeah, but my dad's

12:35

a big baseball fan award and he's like, I don't know what I'm looking at.

12:38

And it's just, you can't change it all at

12:40

once. You just can't. But it

12:42

has to still look like the sport you love. Got to

12:44

evolve, especially if you want to keep the diehards and the

12:46

purists, but then obviously the

12:49

natural reaction goes, they'll always stay. And what I

12:51

think we've all recognized, especially through you pointing it

12:53

out, people are a different era

12:55

now where they will hold a grudge and

12:57

they will protest in their own way,

12:59

which is staying away. I don't think that's

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going to happen with college ball, but let's

13:04

not dance with anything that could potentially become

13:06

that. Let's bounce to the NBA now because

13:08

last night the Celtics take a 2-0 lead

13:10

in the Eastern Conference Finals over the Indiana

13:12

Pacers. Obviously there was

13:14

like a 20-0 run at one point and the Pacers were

13:16

able to battle all the way back. And then, you know,

13:18

it was a good game, good game. Celtics

13:21

end up covering and winning like everybody thought they were

13:23

going to do in the first game and maybe throughout

13:25

the entire series. But the big story is what the

13:28

hell happened to Tyrese Halliburton, the man

13:30

who literally the coach of the Pacers came on our

13:32

show a couple of days ago and said they built

13:34

the entire team around. Third quarter,

13:36

he exits game with potential hamstring,

13:38

I believe is what Coach Carlisle said afterwards.

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Could be a knee, could be a lower

13:42

leg. We have no idea. Joining

13:45

us to hopefully tell us the

13:47

information, senior NBA insider at the

13:49

Athletic Stadium in Fandall TV, the

13:51

ever handsome Sean Sharania. Yeah, Sean.

13:53

That's Sean. Whoo! Don,

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can I get that? Choms

14:01

at least cut you know can we bring us my brain told

14:03

me a prone Kelsey

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healthy plum though Kelsey Thanks

14:09

my name Las Vegas aces doing it tell

14:11

me they are New York Liberty lost. Did

14:13

you see that yeah? This is a to

14:15

do ages did to the Sun well

14:17

the sky beat the Liberty And I actually put

14:19

out a post name is this team ever gonna

14:21

lose I don't think it seems over that they

14:23

did and I was remind anybody right now. I'm

14:26

in LA right now I'm in LA right now.

14:28

There's a lot of talk about the sparks and

14:30

fever game tonight at crypto.com arena So why is

14:32

that you think? Maybe

14:35

Caitlin Clark Cameron

14:39

Brink a lot of star power in the house

14:41

a lot of star power in the house Caitlin

14:43

You know she's about two weeks away from a

14:46

triple double happening every single night fever gonna figure

14:48

it out Haven't got a win change the time

14:50

of the June 1st game to a noon tip

14:52

off said get on ESPN Season

14:54

ticket holders are privy to that type of

14:56

information like you've invested in the fever We

14:59

hope Shawn will do the exact sorry shams

15:01

will do these maybe Shawn Sharanya covers the

15:03

W. There you go. Yeah, yes An

15:08

alias all right, let's move a lot of read

15:10

out an alias. Let's talk about well you already have

15:12

MBA Central or whatever Okay, so let's talk about what

15:15

happened last night Tyree Saliberton third

15:17

quarter, okay This is not good news for

15:19

the NBA stock good news for the series

15:21

And it's certainly terrible news for Indianapolis whenever

15:23

we see him exit the game And then

15:26

coach Carlyle afterwards says it's a hamstring soreness

15:28

What do we know about this as we

15:30

look ahead and what are your thoughts on

15:32

it all? I'm told

15:34

this morning that he Re-aggravated that hamstring strain injury

15:37

that he had earlier in the season in January

15:39

He missed ten games or that he actually came

15:41

back a lot earlier than expected Tyrese Halberg rehab

15:43

the injury quicker than everyone thought he would and

15:46

he came back after just missing ten games and

15:48

went six and Four in those games, but we

15:50

all know I Mean, he's their

15:52

engine They They rely on him offensively

15:54

to set the table for everyone and

15:57

they're there. Obviously a lot of concern

15:59

today. They're. An indie ah,

16:01

until the Pacers got in at three fifteen

16:03

in the morning last night. So it was

16:05

a, oh, the early. Early morning

16:07

I'm sure for lot of those players

16:10

and they don't practice today. Will.

16:12

Know later today as sorry Sell Albarn.

16:14

Just more tests. As. He gets more

16:16

treatment as he goes through that hamstring injury

16:18

on as far as how the pieces of

16:20

in the list and going into game three,

16:23

but there's obvious his status as up in

16:25

the air. It's the same hamstring that

16:27

does not injury the you want to play around

16:29

with. It even has x rays until on his

16:31

chest not as housing on the success. At.

16:34

Half time of game and opposite he got

16:36

cleared enough from that he felt good enough

16:38

to try to give it a go in

16:40

the second half. Just could not get as

16:42

much burst on that hamstring as the as

16:44

he wanted the needs of sitting the game

16:47

and recall our poll. The starters up for

16:49

the a pretty early enough fourth quarter and

16:51

they try to get ready for game three.

16:53

but that game one demoralizing last that was

16:55

a game you try to have you eve

16:57

you have. Also the series is completely different.

17:00

Arm. And now the faces are gonna go

17:02

back home and you have Now there's some

17:04

miracle here with our his albums has milk

17:06

I I don't like what miracle with awe

17:09

as a sizable with hamstrings cast these things

17:11

are so tricky be I'm a reporter we

17:13

are in a former house a more the

17:16

aisle and Indiana and suddenly place as listen

17:18

to the heavens and down on are these

17:20

animals so many America will happen with armies

17:22

Albarn samsung but you're right does a simple

17:25

answer is obviously that won't even as he

17:27

plays even if he plays like how are

17:29

close honor. Percent of the gonna be how close

17:31

the size the house burn is going to be

17:33

was when we know how it affected him during

17:36

the season, after that after he missed that time.

17:38

ah he went through ups and downs offensively

17:40

and then he finally picked that are we

17:42

saw what he's done in the series game

17:44

one just just the masterclass on both ends

17:47

until the last met again like i sobered

17:49

said that gets forty seven minutes they played

17:51

beautifully in and that last minute but for

17:53

the pacers up a hamstring issue he's got

17:55

the chest the issue of sitars albarn very

17:58

banged up on this on and on other

18:00

side, Taun has got a question. Yeah, Shams, it's

18:02

a good time to be in Indiana right now

18:04

as a Celtics fan and we didn't get the

18:07

proof. Oh shut up! This is the same place

18:09

to mix work, I hope you understand that. Let's

18:11

not have too crazy of nostalgia here or of

18:13

forgetfulness. Yeah, same place to mix work and it

18:16

seems as though the Knicks deterioration has kind of

18:18

passed on to the Pacers but again that is

18:20

not a conversation for another day, Shams. I won't

18:22

make those excuses but I will yell at a

18:25

ref. You don't want to use it once? If

18:29

we lose Tyrese Tyler Burton, it's a whole different

18:31

series. There you go. Oh man. Yep, Shams. Go

18:33

ahead please. Boston Connor is not buying that. Boston

18:35

Connor is not buying that. Okay, thanks. Just get

18:37

the information on what the hell is wrong with

18:40

the police, okay? We don't need you talking about

18:42

Lord Miracles and everything, okay? We just need to

18:44

find out. They have to report by five today,

18:46

right? They do. They

18:48

have a 5pm injury report. Yes, everyone will

18:50

see it publicly. Yeah, all eyes

18:52

are on the broom closets as well. They

18:54

have been unlocked in Boston. The brooms are

18:56

not out just yet though but looking at

18:59

the Celtics, Shams, they're saying Porzingis could be

19:01

ready game four. It feels like there's a

19:03

chance that if the Celtics win game three,

19:05

there might not be that, you know, push

19:07

to get him back. Is there a thought

19:09

that Porzingis will just end up resting this

19:11

entire series and then maybe come back for

19:13

the, or definitely come back for the finals

19:16

and what are you hearing around his front

19:18

on his injured soleus, I believe, in his

19:20

calf? Yeah, that's another

19:22

injury where non-contact, you strain it. Yannis

19:25

and Situkumpo missed about four weeks and

19:27

he had a press conference four weeks

19:29

after the injury and said, I'm still

19:31

not running, you know, anywhere close to

19:33

where I need to. I'm running 40%, I think

19:35

is what he said. So the fact

19:37

that it's a calf like hamstring, those are

19:39

tricky injuries and I think Porzingis is trying

19:42

to do everything he can. He's doing more

19:44

on the court. He's doing some stationary work

19:46

on the bike. I

19:48

do think the Celtics are optimistic. For

19:50

the finals, sure. He assured me

19:52

he's going to be ready to go. But for this

19:54

series, I mean, a lot of it is day to

19:56

day. A lot of it is week to week. I

19:58

mean, game four, I believe. I believe is early next week.

20:01

You wanna make sure he's 100% and let's

20:04

say they win game three, let's say. I know there's gonna

20:06

be some upset here, but if they do win game three,

20:08

you're up three, oh, I think the question in Boston should

20:10

be, where's that calf really at?

20:13

But there's also a thought, if he is good

20:15

and if he wants to play on a minutes

20:17

restriction, you play him and then you get him

20:19

right and if he's gotta play another

20:21

game in the series, he plays, he plays on,

20:23

he continues to rev up and ramp up for

20:25

the finals, that's obviously where they feel like and

20:27

no, they need him to win a championship. Just

20:29

real quick, do you have in your Rolodex of

20:31

information when the last time the Pacers lost at

20:33

home? The

20:36

last time the Pacers lost at home. Yeah.

20:40

Did the Bucks beat them in Indy? No.

20:45

The Bucks never won in Indy, okay.

20:48

Yeah. Wow. So

20:50

it has to be regular season, early April? March

20:53

18th, pal, okay. It's

20:56

more like pain bridge field house whenever you come in

20:58

there, pal. That's

21:00

what it's like, so you're saying with Celtics win game

21:02

three and then maybe poor Zinga spits in minutes at

21:04

the end, shut up. Do you know the Celtics road

21:06

record in the playoffs this year? Oh,

21:08

it's 4-0, they haven't lost on the road yet. They

21:11

haven't been to pain bridge field of pain. Pain

21:13

bridge has to play without Tyreese since March 18th

21:15

either. Lovable object first on the top of the

21:17

force. No one

21:19

will be able to win in Indy. Pat, I

21:22

got my start covering games in

21:24

Indianapolis with the Pacers and the Bucks, but

21:26

the Pacers fans, that arena is very underrated

21:28

and those fans get rocking, especially when

21:31

their team is in the playoffs. Yeah, field of pain bridge.

21:33

So I've been to the final game of there. I've

21:35

been in the second round there, they get it right. Let's

21:38

talk about the other. So I'm a former Bankers Life Fieldhouse. That's

21:40

what it used to be. Yeah, it used to be Bankers Life.

21:42

Not a game bridge. It was tough not to call it Bankers

21:45

Life for like the first five years it's been game bridge. Sure.

21:47

That happens with every stadium. Down in Houston, they had

21:50

a stadium change like every three years. And I'm still

21:52

playing at NRG or something like that, but I think

21:54

it's Reliant now. Accra-Shares, Hines Field

21:56

for sure. Oh yeah, that's right. Cincinnati

21:58

Bengals Stadium. Just the team

22:01

that didn't want to make money pay for pay

22:03

for there was Make

22:05

money how about crypto versus

22:07

staples? No one calls that Bros

22:10

pretty sick No,

22:13

no, they want all their money get no center

22:15

now They sponsor some the other night on the

22:17

one of these NBA games It was like a

22:19

crypto calm dunk of the game Yeah, like I

22:21

didn't know like this might as well be like

22:23

radio shaft. Yeah I

22:25

thought we were done with it personally But they

22:27

probably paid up front so much cuz remember how much money

22:29

they did have Yeah, they had to pay up

22:31

that Tom Brady. They had the whole they had

22:33

the whole kitten kaboodle We

22:36

want a people's Center straight up yours

22:38

275 million. We want to dunk at

22:40

a game for the next five years

22:42

Hey crypto. Anyways bowl games My

22:45

dad my dad has a closet for my dad worked

22:47

20 something bogey My dad has a closet full of

22:49

ball games companies that don't exist anymore. Dukes mayo bowl

22:51

used to be Plymouth

22:53

holiday ball the belt. They'll make Plymouth's anymore

22:55

a belt ball Oh, yeah, hell yeah belt

22:57

bowl in Charlotte where I live was the

23:00

mining key car care bowl Yeah, I'm a

23:02

champion George formal would show up every

23:04

year. Yeah, and it was the belt bowl

23:06

and the Dot com

23:09

and the.com thing happened in the 90s. That's

23:11

when it went out of control go daddy.com

23:13

Yeah, yeah, the go daddy that combo the

23:15

Danica Patrick go daddy.com debate. So we got

23:17

Dale Jr. Damn right we do No,

23:20

you never been to cost football game and

23:22

he drove his race car onto the field

23:25

for the tax slayer.com gator bowl Yeah, hell

23:27

yeah, man. I'm also a gator bowl champion

23:29

Monique car carable champion gator bowl chance You

23:31

know a lot of things change, you know,

23:34

but things need to remain the same. They do. Well, everything

23:36

will go away Hey,

23:39

never leave your for show money looking

23:41

for mo money cuz you might end up with No

23:46

Get to the Western Conference now here

23:49

shams obviously tonight game to Dallas, Minnesota

23:51

Dallas gets the win in the first one.

23:54

They are up 1-0 Luca dominated late Tyree

23:57

dominated early. I heard

23:59

that from windy that that was a

24:01

Jason Kidd decision to basically rest up Luca early

24:03

so that if his knee is bad At least

24:05

we'll have good two quarters in the second half

24:07

of them. What are you planning around this evening?

24:09

What do we need to know about injuries and

24:11

how should we be viewing this one especially for

24:13

maybe? gambling on the five and

24:16

a half point favorites that Minnesota

24:18

Timberwolves Yeah, I

24:20

mean you would expect Anthony Edwards to

24:23

have a much more efficient game. I mean

24:25

the last couple games you think about game

24:27

seven game one of this series He's

24:29

12 of 40. I believe it is

24:31

from the field So we you

24:33

would expect him to figure

24:35

it out in in game two here He's

24:38

the one who gave the challenge to Kyrie Irving Kyrie

24:40

Irving stepped up to the task and honestly Pat Like

24:42

I just remember coming on this show in 2020 2021

24:47

2022 we were talking a lot about Kyrie

24:49

Irving. We're talking about mandates. We were talking about

24:51

drama We were talking about trade requests talking about the

24:54

title Even going to

24:56

the Lakers we're talking about Eric Eric Adams

24:58

the mayor in New York City like deciding

25:00

somehow that they need to have a Mandate

25:03

to where a guy can like do

25:05

everything but can't play in games and

25:07

they end up coming to the arena

25:10

But he's on the court. He's there, but he can't

25:12

play in the games There was it

25:14

was a crazy time, but now you

25:16

see Kyrie Irving like how how like

25:18

how happy it is How

25:20

happy he is and that's the that's the number one

25:22

thing that I look at with him the way that

25:24

him and Luca Doncic Embrace after every game the

25:27

way that now that we're not talking about mandates

25:29

We're not talking about his his happiness in the

25:31

city We're talking about how much he loves the

25:34

game how much he loves his teammates how he's

25:36

a leader There were two moments

25:38

Pat I can shed light on that I think

25:40

changed everything between Kyrie Irving and Luca Doncic one

25:42

was training camp demo going to Abu Dhabi spending

25:44

time time with each other another

25:46

moment was Kyrie Irving

25:49

actually had a space tournament at his

25:51

house in late November the Maddox

25:53

were in town for the Lakers Clippers game They were

25:55

there for about a week or so in LA and

25:57

Kyrie Irving invites the entire team everyone's

26:00

family members to his house in

26:02

LA, and they're playing spades

26:04

against each other. And I think bonding with

26:06

each other, spending time with Lucas family, Kyrie

26:09

Irving family was there as well. And those

26:11

are the moments where we didn't hear about

26:13

that a lot in Brooklyn. We didn't hear

26:15

about that a lot in Cleveland. And now

26:17

that Kyrie Irving, he's one of the, veteran,

26:19

it's crazy. Like you think about

26:21

the playoff players that are remaining right now.

26:23

Halbert, obviously young star, Jason Tatum, still trying

26:26

to get his first ring. Minnesota, obviously Anthony

26:28

Edwards is developing as a face to league.

26:30

Luca Doncic is one of the faces of the league.

26:32

Kyrie Irving has been a champion. He's been an

26:35

all-star, all NBA player. He's like the veteran, the

26:37

seasoned guy that's playing right now in these files.

26:39

He's the OG, he's the best. Yeah, Jalen Brown,

26:41

obviously named me, refused to say for whatever reason.

26:44

Jalen Brown as well. Shout out Jalen Brown, 40

26:46

points last night. Yeah, but not to make it

26:48

into that. Get

26:50

back in the shams, break down the spot. He

26:53

signed the largest contract in NBA history, and he

26:55

wanted to only get better, and he's

26:57

doing that. He definitely believes he's one of the

26:59

best 15 players in the league, and last night

27:01

he showed it. Well, I think

27:04

I enjoy most about this Celtics team,

27:06

Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum thing. And

27:09

I think the conversation was even happening on first take today and

27:11

probably get up in every other sports thing. It's like, is

27:13

Tatum doing enough to help this team? Jalen

27:15

Brown, is he the real star

27:17

of this team? Now, he's got the Max Max

27:20

contract. So everybody on the team is

27:22

like, yeah, this guy is one of our stars.

27:24

Those two pick up for each other whenever they

27:26

need it. And it feels like a great tag

27:28

team. They're both saying my team though, which is

27:30

interesting, because you could use the word hour.

27:33

Pronoun could be hour whenever they're utilizing and

27:36

talking about motivating the locker room and everything,

27:38

but they both say my team, which I

27:40

respect and appreciate, that they're both in the

27:43

roles. And he got Al Horford, who's 95

27:45

years old. He's

27:47

probably a leader in there as well. And

27:49

Joe Missoula, he's making adjustments. He's obviously can

27:52

tap out and break the arm of everybody

27:54

on the team, because it's jujitsu training that

27:56

he does after games late night in his

27:58

house. So it's like. That team feels

28:01

like they got a lot of dogs on it and

28:03

when tatum plays bad brown has picked up for it

28:05

And I assume there's gonna come a time when tatum

28:07

is gonna go absolutely A shit and brown is probably

28:09

not gonna be as well in the conversation gonna flip

28:11

on his head Is this how it's always been for

28:13

the Celtics? I'm just realizing this because they're obviously Taking

28:16

on the Pacers in Eastern Conference. Has this been the

28:18

story of the Celtics with these two since they got

28:20

there Yeah, I mean we've gone on the this is

28:22

the sixth Eastern Conference final that they've been to you

28:24

know Like they have gone deep in

28:27

the playoffs and you know when Kyrie came to Boston

28:29

One of the problems was when he got hurt They

28:31

still went to the Eastern Conference Finals and that's kind

28:33

of when it became Tatum and

28:35

Browns team and Kyrie obviously, you know everything

28:37

happened with him and then he left and

28:39

you mentioned the adjustments from Missoula They dominated

28:41

the offensive rebounds because they were crashing on

28:43

the baseline We kept seeing that with Jalen

28:46

Brown either mixing it up or you know,

28:48

Derek Leip But yeah tatum tatum I expect

28:50

a massive road game There are a couple

28:52

years ago when they were down 3-2 against

28:54

the Bucks tatum went for like 45 on

28:56

the road When

28:58

game 7 when Eastern Conference Finals again those to

29:01

get along though. Oh, yeah, very well They tatum

29:03

I mean tatum's been there since he was 1819

29:06

Jalen's been there since he was 20 Jalen was

29:08

drafted in 17 or

29:10

16 tatum was the year after they've legitimately

29:13

grown up together in Boston. Well, congrats boys.

29:15

Looks like you got one Oh, yeah, pace

29:17

is gonna be tough and feel the pain

29:19

bridge field house Need

29:21

to know that's the case Let's talk about the playoffs

29:23

in a face that we're used to seeing and obviously

29:25

every time you come on We have to bring this

29:28

name up because you are plugged in. Yeah, this guy

29:30

is yep is completely plugged into the whole situation The

29:33

Lakers are not in the playoffs And if you

29:35

listen to a lot of people that talk about

29:38

the NBA on a regular basis They say with

29:40

the way this Western Conference is set up. It

29:42

don't matter who's coaching that team No, that team

29:44

is done for they are irrelevant. They're not gonna

29:46

make it back Where are we with the Lakers

29:48

right now in the coaching search? Where are we

29:50

and what the future looks like for the brawn

29:53

who's potentially gonna be a free agent? Is that

29:55

possible? What is the situation currently standing for the

29:57

Los Angeles Lakers and we asked not only because

29:59

Lakers have Needle moving

30:01

ability. This is not, but because this guy

30:04

seemingly, he's right in the middle

30:06

of the war room. Yep. Sean's is in there. Sean's, what the

30:09

hell's going on over there in LA right now? Yeah,

30:11

so let's start with them, their roster. I mean,

30:14

the organization definitely believes that they have a roster

30:16

that should have been able to compete much more

30:18

in these playoffs than they did. And you think

30:20

about where they ended up in the playoff rankings,

30:23

they were the seventh seed. They feel

30:25

like there were a couple, there was a month

30:27

or so, a couple of weeks of the season

30:29

where it just did not go the way that

30:31

they wanted it, obviously affected them in the standings.

30:33

And LeBron James and this organization, they don't want

30:35

to be in a position next season where they're

30:37

playing in the playing tournament, where they're fighting for

30:39

the seven or eight seed. So that's a big

30:41

point of emphasis, is putting an emphasis

30:43

on the regular season next year, where you're

30:45

putting yourself, like if the Lakers ended up

30:47

on the other side of the bracket where

30:49

it's OKC in Dallas and that

30:52

whole series where you're playing New Orleans or whatever,

30:54

like that, you feel like maybe you have a

30:56

much better chance to advance. You played Denver in

30:58

round one, like you're running into a buzz saw.

31:01

So I think now the Lakers, where they're standing,

31:03

as they've started their coaching interviews, I'm

31:05

told last week, the Lakers

31:08

met with JJ Redick in Chicago at

31:10

the draft combine. They met for

31:12

an extended period of time to really get

31:14

to know him and spend time with him.

31:16

And he was the first candidate to really

31:18

do a face-to-face meeting. And then they brought

31:20

in James Brago in LA, on

31:23

Monday, Sam Cassell, David Adelman,

31:26

Michael Norrie, Chris Quinn,

31:28

gonna get an interview as well in LA. So

31:31

they're finishing up their first round of interviews this

31:33

week. Next week, I believe they're gonna start their

31:35

second phase in this process, get

31:37

more conversations with candidates, get

31:40

more maybe basketball-centric conversations in. I think

31:42

a lot of it now was surface

31:44

level. But going into this process, and

31:46

right now, my sense is that JJ

31:48

Redick, I mean, he is the guy

31:50

around the league that everyone believes is

31:52

the front-runner for this job. He's

31:55

in position. There's infatuation with

31:57

JJ Redick right now, just in terms of

31:59

his ability. for right now, but

32:01

also being a coach that the Lakers can

32:03

have for years and years to come. That's

32:05

someone who's obviously young enough in the industry,

32:07

young enough in the space where you feel

32:09

like you have a four, five, maybe six

32:12

year runway with a guy like JJ Rettick

32:14

as your head coach, where now you have

32:16

them command the respect of LeBron James and

32:18

Anthony Davis. But listen, this is Anthony Davis'

32:20

team moving forward. He's the one who's 31

32:22

in the prime of his career. So how

32:24

can, whether it's JJ Rettick or another coach,

32:27

you know, dictate how you're going to

32:29

revolve your game plan around Anthony

32:31

Davis. I think that's going to be an important part, but I

32:34

think the process is going to continue. LeBron James

32:36

is going to continue to watch how that goes.

32:38

He's going to continue to watch how they, even

32:40

more importantly, how they manage their roster. And he

32:42

had the player option date, June 29th. He has

32:44

not made a decision yet. He could opt in,

32:46

he could opt out, he could extend off an

32:48

opt in or sign a new free agent deal.

32:51

And he's going to see what moves they make

32:53

come summertime from next month as we get closer

32:56

to draft. That's where a lot of the bigger

32:58

trades happen. And he's going to keep

33:00

a very, very close eye. But from

33:03

what I understand, you know, they're going to have

33:05

more interviews right now, but listen,

33:07

JJ Rettick. So when this process is going,

33:09

I think a lot of people are on

33:12

the league of connecting some dots in terms

33:14

of, you know, the interview process

33:16

that's going on right now. And

33:18

listen, JJ Rettick does have a

33:20

responsibility. He's calling games in the conference

33:22

finals, the NBA finals. And so, and

33:24

any, you know, if he does take over, he

33:27

wouldn't be taking over until after the finals anyway.

33:29

So the Lakers are able to actually use that

33:31

as an advantage to really go through all the

33:33

interviews that they want to. And then focusing on

33:35

JJ, comparing him to whoever they were thinking about

33:38

potentially going in. Coach JJ Rettick feels like the

33:40

perfect guy for LA too, right? Good personality can

33:42

talk well, right there for a while. And if

33:44

you want to know if he's a smart basketball

33:46

guy or not, obviously can go back to his

33:49

career. But this mind the game thing is going

33:51

to be viewed as a series or a season

33:54

long interview process from LeBron for

33:56

his next coach. Yep. That is exactly what it's going

33:59

to be. So now Let's say LeBron opts

34:01

out but then gets a deal done with LA to

34:03

go back there or opts in to go back to

34:05

be a Laker If there comes a

34:07

time where LeBron's not happy with JJ, we can go

34:09

back to episode three and say hey This is what

34:11

we all yeah, we all we also are gonna slip

34:13

under a pick We're gonna slide to the baseline then

34:16

we're gonna do the triangle quarter zip And

34:19

then there's gonna be a whoop dee-woo and then they're gonna do

34:21

the whole fuck fuckity

34:23

bang It's

34:27

a fuckity bang you get How

34:30

much you want this to be muted chumps easily it's

34:32

not my lingo this is basketball shit I'm talking about

34:34

here, but I saw that I'm mind game all of

34:36

it You know so if there's any disagreements, it's like

34:38

we can just go back and see JJ

34:41

wrong words LeBron wrong Yeah And

34:43

then if the podcast starts doing bad does LeBron say like

34:45

hey I'm gonna let you go like I let Frank Vogel

34:47

go and I'm gonna have to bring in someone new Well

34:50

Frank was not the only one. Yeah, no, no, but if

34:52

you don't win with Ron You

34:54

are viewed vastly differently and JJ Rettick.

34:56

I hope he has success if he

34:58

is tonight I will say this whoever

35:00

they hire is their hire

35:02

the Lakers have From

35:11

mr. McGaise so show is there a scenario.

35:13

I'm a dad right I got I got

35:15

a daughter in college Is there a scenario

35:17

now that we know LeBron has an exit

35:19

strategy if there if you want one? Where

35:22

I mean I'm looking at bets now,

35:24

Bronnie James, you know being a number

35:27

one draft pick certainly I've

35:29

been just saying people taking bets on it. Is there

35:31

a universe Where

35:34

LeBron is putting himself into a

35:36

position to go play ball with his kid

35:39

I'm old enough to remember Ken Griffey Jr.

35:41

And senior. Yeah, I mean, I think LeBron's

35:43

waiting I personally he's waiting to

35:45

play in a league with his kid whether it's for one

35:47

game or whether it's for you know A

35:49

hundred games what but is there a scenario is

35:51

there a multiverse? Scenario where LeBron

35:53

could end up on a roster with

35:55

his kid Yes,

35:57

there's definitely a scenario where he ends up

36:00

on the roster with LeBron, you know, that LeBron James

36:02

ends up on the roster with Bronny James. And for

36:04

the simple fact is the Lakers they want to draft,

36:06

have potentially dropped Bronny James. They

36:08

have the number 55 overall pick in the draft.

36:11

They have the number 17 pick in

36:13

the draft as well. And they

36:16

obviously want to have LeBron James on the roster

36:18

and they want to see if they can fulfill

36:20

his vision. He's on the record about it. But

36:22

I think for Bronny James, it is important, whether

36:25

it's the Lakers or it's another

36:27

team, to figure out a home

36:29

where from a development perspective, from

36:31

a perspective of your future being

36:34

solidified. Because I don't think Bronny James wants

36:36

to just play a couple years. You know,

36:38

from what I'm told, LeBron James is gonna

36:40

play up to two more NBA seasons. I

36:42

don't think Bronny James' vision is to play

36:44

two NBA seasons and then be done once

36:47

his dad is done. I think the vision

36:49

is having a long NBA career, having a

36:51

runway, and whether that's in LA,

36:53

whether that's elsewhere, I'm told he has

36:55

over 10 NBA invites to

36:57

work out right now. He had a

37:00

pro day. The other

37:02

day, on Wednesday in Los Angeles,

37:04

he worked out at the combine last week. I

37:06

think there's obviously, you know, teams really

37:08

looking at the way he shoots, the way he is

37:11

right now. We know about the cardiac arrest last year,

37:13

but he looks like he's in good shape. Actually, I

37:15

talked to some teams. He might have even bulked up

37:17

just a little bit since the season

37:19

ended. But he has over 10 NBA invites. I'm

37:23

told one other team that Bronny James

37:25

will be working out for

37:27

is the Phoenix Suns before the

37:29

NBA draft. So the Suns have the number

37:32

22 overall pick. He's among several

37:34

players under consideration for that. Come on,

37:36

Charlotte. I'm a Hornets guy, right? Come

37:39

on down to Charlotte. No,

37:42

no, he's at Phoenix. Did you know LeBron

37:44

James loves Charlotte? And the reason

37:46

he loves Charlotte is because Bo jangles. I'm

37:48

not making this up. Bo jangles chicken. I

37:50

wrote a story about this and then PSP

37:52

in the magazine. Well, LeBron James was a

37:54

rookie. The

37:57

deal was he would leave games at the old hive.

38:00

And the takeaway food to go get on the

38:02

plane after a game for the visiting team was

38:04

a little two-piece box of fried chicken from Bojangles

38:07

You know Bojangles? And

38:09

so LeBron James became so obsessed with

38:11

Bojangles he would own the plane as

38:13

a rookie hand out cash Give me

38:15

a row and he'd take it all home and

38:17

finally He would send the clubhouse attendant to go

38:19

by like one of these tailgate packs to take

38:21

back to Cleveland with him So yeah, hey,

38:24

Bronny and LeBron. Mr. McGee. I'm not holding my

38:26

breath on Charlotte You

38:30

know how to free Bojangles you want? Let me

38:32

keep going Come on, I can make that happen.

38:34

I know people Be a coach and all that

38:37

I love that you're gonna get a Bojangles deal

38:39

done potentially to close this deal in the horn

38:42

I'm gonna keep slapping this microphone unless we

38:44

get left out of the car Alright,

38:47

Sean, we appreciate the hell out of you We got a stock

38:49

college ball because there's a lot of shit going on in the

38:51

NCAA You're the man, pal. We appreciate

38:53

it Always appreciate it, boys. Appreciate it

38:57

The man who covers the WNBA is

38:59

Sean and the NBA is Sean's Sean

39:01

Sherwin I might have to start that

39:05

Smart, smart, smart, smart You

39:09

know Bojangles? It's so damn

39:11

good. It is so good I'm telling

39:14

you, LeBron, I wrote that story in ESPN the magazine

39:16

And I remember arguing with the editors who were all

39:18

based in Manhattan Like we can't write this story. I'm

39:20

like, yeah, we can It's

39:22

delicious fried chicken Why

39:25

the hell can't we write this story? I don't understand

39:27

what the problem is Yeah, it's amazing I still like

39:29

chicken She's still amazing I had it three days ago

39:33

It's fun It started in North Carolina, obviously Yeah,

39:35

it was in Charlotte Like literally around the corner

39:37

I can't wait to get some I know When

39:40

I was a kid, all the Bojangles, like the

39:42

stand-alone, a little like riverboats Like

39:44

they had a big wheel on the back and like

39:46

the smokestacks and stuff You kidding me when you were

39:48

a kid, going to get some fried chicken? You

39:51

grew up in 1910 Yeah

39:57

It was firehouse subs from North Carolina as well I

40:00

don't know. They might be Bowjangle

40:03

bowjangle. Yeah, they got ran out of town by Bojangle.

40:05

You guys are I'll tell you what that seems like

40:07

a Source of pride in

40:10

North Carolina. Oh, yeah, then I'll tell you I Remember

40:12

them telling me I thought I had this big

40:14

they're gonna make it. Yes. No way guys a

40:16

hornet You're like hey, man. You

40:19

don't even understand how much the bronze is those bojangles Story,

40:22

I'm like I wrote it. I wrote it the

40:24

magazine was like this the hornet secret weapon to

40:26

finally slow LeBron James Just fill him up with

40:28

bojangles I

40:32

Put that in ESPN a magazine God

40:35

bless America. They sent me a paycheck. Did you get a

40:37

quote? Did you get a quote from LeBron? Yeah Bojangles

40:40

sent me a big box of stuff for those that

40:42

are wondering right now as they should sounds like they

40:44

should maybe give you free Bojangles for that's your life.

40:47

We're on the brawn. He's drinking a diet Mountain Dew

40:49

right now I got my Dell Jr. Just my

40:51

Dell Jr. Juice And we got y'all yep, let

40:53

me Dell Jr's helmet over here and Dell Jr.

40:55

Juice the mountain dive Mountain Dew Yeah,

40:58

keep going McGee. Yeah, it's it's it's the

41:00

best when I work with Dell Jr That's

41:02

the best part is his his coolers He's

41:05

still in the Budweiser deal if you ever if you're a

41:07

NASCAR driver that ever drove the Budweiser car Even if you

41:09

moved on to drive for someone else you

41:11

still in the Budweiser Kenny Schrader drove the Budweiser car

41:13

like 30 years ago. He still

41:15

gets free but what you just has so junior

41:17

just has he has bridges full bridges full of

41:20

Budweiser and dot Mountain Dew and God bless

41:22

America Disgusted

41:27

by that fridge but a guy who knows

41:30

everything about college football, which is why we

41:32

call him the authority There's a lot going

41:34

on the NCAA in the football world and

41:36

there's been one man that has not slept

41:38

for two to three years Trying

41:40

to get to the bottom of it. Ladies and gentlemen

41:42

Emmy Award winner from College Game Day Pete Pam

41:47

My sources can confirm that the Bojangles

41:50

conversation is gonna be a lot more

41:52

interesting than what I'm telling I disagree

41:54

the Bojangles conversation is certainly a nice

41:56

little factoid Added

41:58

into the entire story of the

42:00

greatness of the state of North Carolina.

42:02

Way to go, yeah. Way to go,

42:04

North Carolina. But let's talk about what

42:07

you have been covering, and obviously alongside

42:09

your peers at espn.com and other places,

42:11

about this NCAA story. For the

42:14

first time in NCAA's existence, there

42:16

has now been an agreement for schools

42:19

to be able to pay players, which

42:21

leads to so many more questions. But is that

42:23

the basis of what took place? And how far

42:26

into this are we? And how does this end

42:28

up? Because McGee did an entire speech literally at

42:30

the beginning of the show saying, if our

42:32

Saturdays start looking like our Sundays, then

42:35

what is even Saturday football, and why

42:37

am I even a fan of it?

42:39

Which could potentially be SEC

42:41

fans that are diehard college, and other

42:43

diehard college football fans thinking that. That's

42:45

their biggest fear. This ruling seems to probably feed

42:47

that a little bit. Is that where we are? What are your thoughts,

42:50

and how did we get here? Pete, I'll kind of give you an

42:52

open slate to kind of run with it. Well,

42:54

thanks, Pat. Amateurism is dead, is

42:56

the headline. Schools

42:59

can now directly pay college

43:01

athletes, which is a huge,

43:03

huge development just for college

43:05

athletics in general. We can't

43:08

overstate how important that is as

43:10

a moment. Now, where

43:12

this all goes, and

43:15

the details, and who gets what, and is Title

43:17

IX involved? There is still, much

43:20

like most things in college sports, it's convoluted

43:22

and confusing. But I just think if your

43:24

listeners or viewers, obviously, are going to

43:26

take one thing away today, Pat, it's that

43:29

Ohio State, starting in 2025, can now

43:31

pay Trayvon Henderson. Michigan

43:35

can now pay Will

43:37

Johnson, whoever. No, they won't be there in 2025. But

43:40

you know what I mean. Like, the star players

43:42

in college football and college basketball can get paid

43:44

directly by the school. In the

43:46

years of sort of indirect payments, we had three

43:49

years of NIL, we had many years of duffel

43:51

bags full of cash. That

43:53

stuff is over. McDonald's bags? Tennessee.

43:56

Give me a McDonald's bag full of cash, please. Give

43:58

me a machine with double G. I'll play those

44:00

right out of the night. Saturday football Bojangles

44:03

in a Tennessee bag of cash. It's really

44:05

Ryan McGee day today. Every day could be

44:07

McGee day. Put that in a

44:09

Bojangles bag. I'm

44:12

good. Okay,

44:14

so as we're talking about this

44:17

all, there was

44:19

a lawsuit that was prompting this, right? Is that

44:21

kind of what I read? I was trying to

44:23

follow as much as I could, but it was

44:25

very wordy. All of it was wordy. You had

44:27

four by-laws yesterday on espn.com, McGee said, but there

44:29

was a lawsuit coming that was worth billions of dollars.

44:31

The NCAA had to counter it by passing this rule. What

44:34

was that lawsuit and is Pat White going to make

44:36

money off of West Virginia this far

44:39

removed from what he did to that potential

44:41

university and others like him? Yeah,

44:44

Pat White will not because it's 2016 and on, but

44:47

Zack Frazier could make some money. And

44:49

you know, like Zaid Williamson should make

44:51

a lot of money, right? Like

44:53

that guy, you know, folks like that. I

44:56

think Johnny Manziel would fall within the window

44:58

if it's 2016 on. Now

45:01

how that's actually going to get divided up could be

45:03

its own podcast, mini series, 30 for 30.

45:07

They're going to be people a lot smarter than me. They're

45:09

going to have to determine how you take $2.7 plus billion.

45:14

Chabot if the lawyers are going to make a lot of money. That

45:16

we know, Jeffrey Kessler, who really has

45:18

had his hand in most of the

45:20

major, you know, union type battles

45:22

or labor type battles and professional sports

45:24

over the past four or five decades.

45:27

He and Berman, the other co-counselors are

45:29

going to walk out with a lot

45:31

of money. But how that stuff

45:34

gets divided up, that hasn't been determined yet. Nor,

45:36

and I think this is the other probably

45:38

crucial point right now as we look into

45:41

it, is Nor has school said, okay, with

45:43

this roughly $20 million, does

45:45

$10 million go to women's

45:47

sports because of Title IX or can we take

45:49

$18 million and direct that

45:52

towards football because football, and I think it's

45:54

a safe estimate, Ryan could disagree with me

45:56

here, is about 85% of the revenue at

45:58

the state level. most schools

46:00

proportional to the TV contracts. So,

46:04

because it's a giant difference if you're operating with

46:06

an 18 million dollar, which is essentially going to

46:08

be a salary cap at a power school, versus

46:10

8 million dollars, right?

46:13

So, these are the things

46:15

that have to be determined. The other

46:17

very football-centric piece of this that isn't

46:19

determined is there

46:22

are going to be roster caps. Now, this

46:24

is, and we're going to weave a little

46:26

bit with you here, there used to be

46:28

scholarship limits. So, like, there

46:30

were weird numbers. Football at 85, that was

46:32

clean, but like, baseball was

46:34

like 12, uh, 11.8, 9, 9,

46:37

yeah. It's so, and McGee

46:39

might know some of those, some of

46:41

those nuanced numbers better than me. He

46:43

does, he does. Yeah, I'm not, I'm

46:45

not surprised. And so, baby, you big,

46:47

dumb, Southern American. Yeah, you got it.

46:49

You got it. I've never eaten

46:51

my chicken legs. That's great.

46:54

The problem from paying, go ahead, though

46:56

Pete, sorry about it. So, the, the,

46:58

the, the sort of basic legal tenet

47:00

of this is that because it's an

47:03

antitrust suit, they're trying to eliminate limitations.

47:05

Instead of telling Clemson they

47:07

can only have 85

47:10

scholarship players in this, or like, Ole Miss

47:12

is a great example, because Ole Miss City

47:14

State, they have unbelievable baseball, and they were

47:16

limited to about 10 baseball scholarships. So, now,

47:18

if you want to give out 25 baseball

47:21

scholarships, you can, they're simply just going to

47:23

be a roster cap, and you

47:25

can determine, Maryland may say, you know what, we only

47:27

want 12 baseball scholarships, but Ole Miss is

47:29

going to say, hey, man, we packed five grand a night,

47:31

and everybody sits out in the outfield, and drinks, and we

47:33

got a good old time here, and baseball

47:35

means a lot to our community and our fan

47:37

base. We're going to have up

47:40

to the roster cap, as opposed to the

47:42

scholarship limit. Now, what we don't know yet

47:44

for football is what the roster cap, we

47:46

know there are going to be roster caps.

47:49

We don't know if the roster cap is going to

47:51

be 95, it's going to be 105, it's going to

47:54

stay at 85, and there,

47:56

there is a conversation, I don't think we're

47:58

going to get there, ultimately, because because it's

48:00

too important to Saturday football. And I'm a

48:02

believer in Saturday football. I've heard the McGee's

48:05

pep talk speech and I'm a believer in

48:07

Saturday football. Walk-ons are a crucial

48:09

part of Saturday football, correct, Ryan McGee?

48:11

Absolutely. Good story. Who's your favorite walk-on,

48:13

Ryan McGee? Oh, favorite walk-on of all

48:15

times, Becker Mayfield, who walked on like

48:17

14 different times. And then went to

48:19

high school. Just got paid too,

48:22

again. Shout out. Your

48:24

co-host, JJ Watt, walk-on, right?

48:26

Yep. Hunter

48:29

Renfro, confident. So anyway,

48:31

I think we're going to

48:34

make great walk-on. Great claw-pat. Yeah, thank you.

48:36

He was working at a club actually, and

48:38

he was scurrying again. He was really

48:40

good. I would not have misbehaved in that club. Yeah,

48:43

that was coming. It was

48:45

fucking big. I

48:48

think walk-ons are too

48:50

important part of Saturday football for them to

48:52

be eliminated, but there is going to have

48:54

to be some type of mechanism to

48:57

put them in because scholarships or

48:59

rosters are going to be capped

49:02

at a certain number. And they may have to

49:04

have practice squads, something different. So these are some

49:06

of the changes that are coming. We just don't

49:08

know the final answers yet. Okay, last question for

49:10

me before the boys have some here. So

49:13

$20 million is what the school is allowed to give

49:15

out. Now, our boosters are still allowed to do the

49:18

NIL thing. And then all of a sudden, whenever you're

49:20

talking about scholarships, like let's say I want to pay

49:22

Boston Connor here 100,000 bucks, but we're going to take

49:25

25,000 of that, and that's going to allow for

49:27

your schooling. So it's actually a scholarship, but

49:29

it's not actually a scholarship. You're actually making 75, or you're lucky

49:31

to be getting it, kid. Thank you. I'm very

49:33

excited. Thanks for this opportunity. You know, back in the day when

49:35

I was there, we had to fucking get loans out at 47%

49:37

interest rates. I remember hearing

49:39

about that. But when I had 10 touchdowns this year, I won

49:41

175. We'll talk about that

49:43

after season. I'm sure you'll come in bitchin' like

49:45

this entire generation does, and I'll have to re-recruit

49:47

you and everything, but you're welcome for this. Can

49:50

that happen as well? And are the boosters money

49:52

still going to be involved in the NIL entire

49:54

deal, this entire thing you think? So

49:56

because the fundamental tenets of antitrust

49:58

didn't incidentally... these things are to

50:01

avoid future lawsuits, you can't just

50:03

eliminate NIL. And

50:05

it doesn't make sense to bring NIL in house,

50:07

or at least that's not what people think is going

50:09

to happen. So in a way, how

50:12

to manage NIL is

50:14

probably the biggest issue that administrators have

50:16

right now. Because essentially, if you

50:18

have just say you have your $15 million salary

50:21

cap for football to use a round number at

50:23

your run of the mill SEC school, your

50:25

competitive advantage, potentially in a gray area, right,

50:28

we're used to those for a few

50:30

decades in college football, comes from NIL. And

50:33

when you drill down on it, what they're trying

50:35

to determine, Pat, is what is

50:37

real NIL and what is like someone

50:40

going to a charity event for 20 minutes shaking

50:42

a few hands and then getting 100 grand. Is

50:45

that like indicative? So the NIL deal- You are what

50:47

they'll pay you. That's right. Yeah, exactly.

50:49

No, and that's fair. And that's fair. So

50:51

again, NCAA enforcement has been just about as

50:54

impotent over the years as the NCAA has

50:56

been in the courtroom. And that's how we

50:58

got to this point. So having

51:01

this historic day go forward without an answer

51:03

for how NIL will be managed and how

51:05

people are going to oversee it, there's a

51:08

thought that maybe Judge Wilkin

51:10

in Northern California has a federal magistrate

51:12

and it creates a bureau to oversee

51:14

it. Just like in the front offices

51:16

of the NBA, NHL and

51:18

NFL, there's ways to manage different

51:20

tampering and things like that. But

51:23

the NCAA is not- A Northern

51:25

California judge is going to be

51:27

overlooking college ball. Hey,

51:29

that's ACC territory up there, man. Oh, you're right.

51:31

I completely forgot about that. That'll get him a

51:33

Bojangles, right? Yeah, that's exactly right. So

51:37

it sounds like there's obviously a lot of questions

51:39

still. There's just an agreement like, yeah, you can

51:42

pay 20 million at this point, just kind of

51:44

get this lawsuit out there. More questions are going

51:46

to be coming though. Here's one from McGee. All

51:48

right. So Pete, the texts that

51:50

I'm receiving, and I know you are

51:52

too, are from administrators at non-autonomous five,

51:54

power five, power four, whatever the hell

51:56

we're calling it now. But

51:59

they- are taking

52:01

on a large part of paying off

52:03

this settlement. What

52:06

is your elevator explanation to people now

52:08

when they didn't go to

52:10

Ohio State and Notre Dame but

52:12

they went to Ball State or Coastal Carolina and

52:14

now they feel like they're having to pay 60%

52:16

of this as opposed to the

52:19

guys with the money who were having to pay 40% of

52:21

it. What's this all about

52:24

Pete? So the MCAA is,

52:26

and by the way buying itself a decade

52:28

of relevancy by doing this, they are volunteering

52:30

to pick up the tab but they're having

52:33

basically everyone Venmo them. That would be the

52:35

best way to describe it. But instead of

52:37

Venmoing them, the MCAA gives an inordinate amount

52:39

of money to these schools, more than I

52:41

even knew when I drilled into this last

52:44

week when everybody started to complain, and

52:46

rightfully so by the way, they're not faceless

52:48

complaints. And so

52:50

what happens is there's nine different categories

52:52

that the MCAA pays all these schools

52:55

in and six of them are now

52:57

going to be limited. A lot of

52:59

that we see manifested through NCA Tournament

53:01

Units, NCA Tournament Performance Fund, it's called.

53:03

And essentially that stuff is going to

53:05

be, some of that stuff is going

53:07

to be pared back in

53:09

order for that to happen. So there's like big

53:11

numbers that like the Big East is going to

53:13

pay 5.5 million to about 7 million

53:15

per year, which

53:18

translates down to $500,000 per school. But

53:21

ultimately what the MCAA will

53:23

tell you is, look, if we don't all pick

53:25

up the tab here, we're going

53:27

to lose these lawsuits, fall apart, declare bankruptcy

53:30

and have to start all over. How

53:32

many people are like, that's OK with us? Did anybody say

53:34

that about the NCAA? I

53:37

think you'd get a lot of hands raised on your

53:39

show for that. That would

53:41

just be complicated and messy. So they're

53:43

essentially paying billions, Pat, to avoid paying

53:45

more billions and risk

53:47

just sort of a shutdown

53:50

and restart. And

53:53

even everyone who's cynical about the

53:56

NCAA and had given us plenty of reasons to be,

53:59

does have to admit like there were... whatever is recreated

54:01

there would need to be a governing body. Somebody

54:03

would have to run all the championships

54:05

but football. And so the

54:07

biggest thing in a lot of ways, hey,

54:09

when you're talking about the governing body and

54:11

recreating all that and all the like impossible

54:13

tasks that have to be completed with actual

54:15

humans, in theory, all this shit sounds good.

54:17

Just like in theory, a player union sounds

54:19

good. But like, that is inevitable,

54:22

right? Players are going to need to have a

54:24

union some point with this entire thing, especially if

54:26

there's a rev share conversation taking place. And then

54:28

you're negotiating what can be negotiated what can't be

54:30

negotiated, but a union for a turnstile

54:32

like you're only there for three, four or five

54:35

years, whatever it is. So that's gonna be a whole different

54:37

group. So who's going to be the person how like

54:39

a union in theory sounds easy to create,

54:42

but that's going to be impossible as

54:44

well. There's a lot of shit that has to get figured out

54:46

before 2025 when this is instituted.

54:49

Yes. So kickoff, you were like 100 days from

54:51

kickoff, I saw the tweets this week. So yeah,

54:53

we could say 460 days, right? For

54:58

so to piece point to their people

55:00

don't get this. The

55:03

NCLA headquarters, which are sitting right down the road

55:05

from where we are, the other worst, but that

55:07

has to exist. There has to be some form

55:09

of that. And what no one understands is I

55:11

say this all the time is that the NCAA,

55:13

the people who are in that building, their job

55:15

is to enforce the rules

55:17

and regulations that were written by the membership, you

55:20

go to the NCAA website, and you look at

55:22

every committee, and it's representatives

55:24

from the schools, the people in this

55:26

building down here, their only job is

55:29

to enforce with the something that when

55:31

those committees meet, and my

55:33

dad was on his committees, when these committees meet NCAA, exactly

55:36

just have to sit outside. They're not even allowed to be in the

55:38

room. So most of what happens in

55:40

that building, the inmates are running the asylum.

55:42

So the some form of the NCAA will

55:44

always exist because someone has to peterite. This

55:46

is always bad. A lot of things. They're

55:49

really, really good at running championships. Like I'm

55:51

going to college World Series. And if you

55:53

watch back, it's awesome. It's they're really good

55:55

at that. Someone needs to do that. Someone

55:57

needs to take care of the clerical stuff

55:59

that that the colleges, the universities don't want to

56:02

do, and someone has to be the scapegoat. You

56:04

gotta have someone to point to and go, well that

56:06

damn guy is the worst. And

56:08

there has to be a scarecrow, mission. All

56:11

right, and so that's why there will always

56:13

be some form of this, no matter where

56:15

we have a Super League or whatever, there's

56:18

always gonna be something that looks like the

56:20

NCAA. Hell yeah, and that's a shame, but

56:22

it's also maybe a brighter future with what

56:24

was voted upon yesterday. Can't be changed in

56:26

college football though, completely. No! College

56:29

football is great, it's the number two sport in

56:31

the United States of America, and the authority of it

56:34

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56:36

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What this weekend's all about in this particular city,

57:47

the talks table's here at Boston Corner, and that's

57:49

Ty Schmidt. Great hat, Ty! Well, you know, hey,

57:51

it's any 500 weekend, so if I'm

57:53

ever gonna wear it, why not wear it today? You've

57:55

really come full circle this month in May, haven't you? I

57:57

have, I have, I have. what

58:00

I'm praying that the rain holds off on Sunday and

58:02

I cannot wait to watch right now don't know how

58:04

I'm gonna watch it yet you know cuz I am

58:06

in the the blackout zone but I'll figure it out

58:09

listen to it I think the cock peacock will have

58:11

it but there is a chance we're gonna have to

58:14

figure out a way to put our vin outside of

58:16

India sure and I'm not gonna do that so I'm

58:18

gonna have to figure out something else well we're

58:21

hoping that the rain doesn't come to so because

58:23

all golf courses will be wide

58:25

open uh-huh it just move wide

58:27

open I hadn't even

58:29

thought about that except for the one inside

58:32

the racetrack to bingo although cars

58:34

that are parked by that's why I'm a geek

58:36

yeah can you play brickyard

58:39

crossing like well you play why is there

58:41

all the race going on and I play

58:43

I played that course when there's testing going

58:45

oh yeah you can go Saturday and today

58:47

yeah not while the race going on there's

58:49

like cars parked yeah it's also the snake

58:51

pit which is snake pit now is corporatized

58:53

and it's awesome like they do the whole

58:55

corporatize they'd also hold they but back in

58:57

the day man oh yeah I've heard photos

58:59

you if this year 20th any 500 yeah

59:02

means you definitely were around when the snake

59:04

pit yes fastball you talk about roses right

59:07

yeah I say again you saw guns

59:09

and roses yeah so it's a

59:11

George Thurgoods that are today oh man they're

59:13

gonna dare well their damn destroyers what I

59:15

just kimmy trumpets starting a day off on

59:18

Sunday at 8 10 a.m. in the

59:20

snake pit which is now the new snake pit yes I

59:22

got corporatized the reason why I got corporatized is I

59:24

do believe there was like 10 to 15

59:27

dead bodies in that snake pit back

59:29

in the day it was some Talladega

59:31

it was some yeah Talladega the infield the

59:33

Talladega super speedway and then obviously turn

59:35

3 at Indy I've seen stuff

59:37

that I've just the more cooked to myself the

59:39

Talladega they do a thing after every cup race

59:42

Talladega they do the morning they do a left

59:44

behind to call it and they just walk around the infill

59:46

taking pictures and stuff that you just find couches

59:49

and underwear people humans oh yeah like cars so

59:51

guys just left the damn car just I don't

59:53

want that car anymore and just leave the

59:56

snake pit is like that but the snake

59:58

I brought my wife and daughter to the

1:00:00

race in 2017, I guess it was. And

1:00:03

I remember all of the people coming in, and

1:00:06

it was, who's the

1:00:08

DJ, like electronic guy, where's

1:00:10

the fuck out of the marshmallow? They're all wearing

1:00:12

the damn marshmallow things on their head, and none

1:00:14

of them knew the race, there was even a race going on. I

1:00:16

heard a guy say, is there something else going on here today? Yeah,

1:00:19

the damn greatest practical race. Yeah. You

1:00:21

can't see a car though, whenever you're in there now. You were in the

1:00:23

infield in 2017, it was on the RVs,

1:00:25

that was the same year. Yeah, Marshmallow actually saw

1:00:27

him from where we were. Yeah. He

1:00:30

was wearing Marshmallow's face, because he got off his bus. What? No

1:00:33

Marshmallow mask. He got off his bus. What? They

1:00:35

bring in Marshmallow mask within probably a foot and

1:00:37

a half of getting off the bus, and I'll

1:00:39

ball it, I go, oh, I just saw. Okay.

1:00:42

There you go. I just seen Marshmallow. Who's he

1:00:44

look like? Who would you say he looks like?

1:00:46

Just, uh. You heard of Avicii? Don't

1:00:49

you do that. I'm just, look. Don't you

1:00:51

do that. Is there something to think about?

1:00:54

DJ Marshmallow, isn't Tim. I mean,

1:00:56

can we confirm that? Can we confirm that

1:00:58

the Daft Punk guys aren't Tim? Well Daft

1:01:00

Punk used to really light it. Timmy Trump,

1:01:02

it's about the light. Punk. It's

1:01:04

on fire, but when you're in that state, but you can't

1:01:06

even see the cars. Was it the Mallow or was it

1:01:08

one of his body doubles? Well, that was what I thought

1:01:10

immediately, it was like, that's brilliant. Do you have body doubles?

1:01:12

What? The Mallow? Well, this, think about. We

1:01:14

call it the Mallow, is that an actual term? Yeah.

1:01:17

Like, yeah. We don't know. We're talking from the same

1:01:19

angle you are. Mr. Mallow. We don't know, Mr. Mallow.

1:01:21

It's amazing. I mean, it is, I always go down

1:01:23

there. I went down there with Connor Daly. I

1:01:27

think he's a friend of the show. I went over to Connor Daly a couple

1:01:29

of years ago. Connor's the best and we went down early. He's like, you don't

1:01:31

even believe what we're gonna see. It was like 7.30 in the morning. Oh

1:01:34

yeah. And I was like, this is a little intense,

1:01:36

but it was, it was. You gonna stop by the coke lot while you're

1:01:38

here? Yeah, sure. You know what the coke lot is? No.

1:01:40

Oh yeah, you should just take a little trip around

1:01:42

there. Kilo's on Kilo. That night before, the other night

1:01:44

before, two nights before, they're camping out already probably in

1:01:46

the coke lot, you're just gonna swing by the coke

1:01:48

lot. Yeah, I'll do that. I see some poles and

1:01:50

stuff out there in the middle of. Well, I'm always

1:01:52

working. I did a live show. They are too. I

1:01:55

mean, some people call that the oldest job. Two

1:01:57

different places this has happened to me. on

1:02:00

Sports Center and one was at the

1:02:02

the world's largest we're not allowed to call it

1:02:04

this the world's largest outdoor cocktail party that's bullshit

1:02:07

I call it the like the earth's

1:02:09

biggest you know al fresco libations

1:02:11

soiree what the hell you know what you call it but

1:02:14

why aren't you allowed to call it Georgia Florida they just

1:02:16

they didn't want to call it anymore so the first time

1:02:18

I was on gameday you did I just called it yeah

1:02:20

and then I got a bunch of people tell me you're

1:02:22

not allowed to call it that was an extensor it is

1:02:24

what it is but I was doing a live shot on

1:02:26

sports so dumb who made that rule so dumb they did

1:02:28

who knows Georgia Florida

1:02:31

people I don't know Florida

1:02:33

Jordan line they're fighting right

1:02:35

now too I don't know

1:02:38

because one of them said hey we're not there

1:02:40

bars and closing yeah they don't get any say on that

1:02:42

country it's not any that's a whole other that's a entire

1:02:48

episode of Marty McGee right there but

1:02:51

it happened at that game and it happened at

1:02:53

any 500 doing a live shot and

1:02:56

literally they're setting up a pole behind me

1:02:59

and the produce having to be twice and the producer

1:03:01

is like doing this well how's she doing

1:03:03

with the twist her hand I run so while we're doing

1:03:05

a live shot I'm literally like turning

1:03:07

a background like this so the background changes because

1:03:09

they're back there setting up a disco ball in

1:03:11

a pole behind me so there you go kids

1:03:13

hey the pole the pole is holding down the

1:03:16

grass yeah maple

1:03:20

yeah exactly it was like the polling dynamite

1:03:22

the damn volleyball in the pole and I

1:03:25

think it was sort of charitable situation those

1:03:27

yeah happen yeah yeah joining us now is

1:03:29

Amanda knows all about this day though he's

1:03:31

a college football national champion a Super Bowl

1:03:34

champion a Ryder Cup winner and a pole

1:03:36

King ladies and gentlemen AJ Hall

1:03:38

you told me

1:03:40

they're setting up stripper

1:03:44

poles that people are selling their body on

1:03:46

the infield the Indy 500 they're not selling

1:03:48

their body I mean profession to put on

1:03:50

a show that you can't

1:03:53

touch in the 60s and 70s it

1:03:55

was it was Sodom and Gomorrah now it's a little

1:04:00

Not the same, not Degas. Degas.

1:04:03

No, no, Degas never changed. Degas never

1:04:05

changed. Degas never changed. Halle-da-ga. He's

1:04:10

got a bar down Nashville now. There's chairs on a

1:04:12

roof. Do

1:04:14

you see that? Yes. The

1:04:17

Marty Smith has talked

1:04:20

about the sonar. Marty McGee. He's an

1:04:22

investor in that deal. He says he owns the toilet paper.

1:04:24

Smart. Nobody wants that chair. I

1:04:27

believe there's signs at the top of Eric Church. It says

1:04:29

you're not more than a wall. Don't even think about

1:04:32

it. Nashville, what a city. Unbelievable. Let

1:04:34

me get back down there. Absolutely. It

1:04:36

has changed a little over the years. When I was a

1:04:38

student at Tennessee, we got to Nashville and it was a

1:04:40

little seedier and now it's corporatized. It's awesome. Yeah,

1:04:43

but it's great. It is

1:04:45

awesome, but Tootsies is still, again, like college

1:04:47

football. As long as Tootsies are still Tootsies,

1:04:49

I'm fine. They ruined

1:04:51

Tootsies, mom, go. How

1:04:54

do you feel about the college football

1:04:56

world right now? Obviously, we just had

1:04:58

Pete Tammon. He came on to tell

1:05:00

us historic, huge day, so many questions.

1:05:02

We've got about 460 days

1:05:05

to figure it all out before the 2025 season. He

1:05:08

also alluded to the fact that the multi-billion

1:05:11

dollar lawsuit that was coming down certainly expedited

1:05:13

some decisions here from the NCAA. Amateurism

1:05:16

was a word that they made up to answer

1:05:18

for everything that they thought was bullshit happening under

1:05:20

their belt. Now that is gone. What are your

1:05:22

thoughts on it, AJ? Obviously, Ohio State's going to

1:05:24

benefit from this somehow, right? Yeah,

1:05:26

I guess. I still, there's a million, like every

1:05:28

new decision that comes up, there's a hundred

1:05:31

more questions on how you're going to figure it out, like what

1:05:33

are the logistics, and if all these schools

1:05:35

are able to pay them, yeah, that was a great question to Pete.

1:05:37

Like, what happens to all the NIO money,

1:05:40

all the deal? Like, what are we going to do?

1:05:42

So just, you're going to make money on top of

1:05:44

what the school is paying each player. So

1:05:46

I guess each school, in that 20 million, that's going

1:05:48

to be divvied up. What's going to be divvied up?

1:05:51

That's a salary cap, right? I don't know if it's a salary

1:05:53

cap or if that's a salary floor. You

1:05:56

know, now it's like, do you have to give this up? You

1:05:58

can't collect this money or something. for your own school,

1:06:00

especially if other schools are paying for it. He said

1:06:03

that people are putting money up and then also TV

1:06:05

rights, I think. Yeah, boosters and like in tuition, is

1:06:07

tuition part of that thing? Like is any money the

1:06:09

school make, is that part of the $20 million that

1:06:11

they can pay? I do wonder. And remember,

1:06:13

there was a time when they said they can't afford

1:06:16

it. They're not making money. These schools are making money.

1:06:18

Now, they just built a $750 million facility. Yeah,

1:06:21

and the TV deals just went through

1:06:23

the roof too. Yeah, but they're not making money. We've

1:06:26

got to build up a laboratory here

1:06:28

on the medical campus that has never

1:06:30

been seen before actually going to send

1:06:32

us to the moon again. Nice. For

1:06:34

the first time since 1969. We

1:06:37

went to the moon, right? Yeah, they were all in the

1:06:39

new moon people, the Artemis people, they were all at the

1:06:42

NASA championship game. The new moon people? Yeah, the new astronauts.

1:06:44

I got on the elevator and I was like, damn, are

1:06:46

y'all the astronauts that are going to the moon? They're

1:06:49

like, yeah. I'm like, that's cool. It

1:06:51

was awesome. I went to space camp when I

1:06:53

was a kid. I love that stuff. There's

1:06:55

a plane, I think in North Carolina, that is a

1:06:57

zero gravity plane that you can actually get. Yeah. Oh

1:07:00

yeah. That's in Carolina. Yeah, vomit

1:07:03

comet. Yes, that is exactly. Pretty

1:07:05

pricey, but seemingly you get a good 45 seconds

1:07:07

to a minute floating around. No, you do. It's

1:07:10

amazing. Have you done it? Yes. Okay.

1:07:14

Did you vomit? Of course you have. I flew

1:07:16

into Thunderbirds who are here, by the way. They would do

1:07:18

any 500. USA! USA! USA! I didn't throw up or pass

1:07:20

out in Thunderbirds. That's

1:07:22

all that mattered to me. My guy Gator was

1:07:24

amazing. Gator. We

1:07:26

got to flew like 150 sorties over Afghanistan or

1:07:28

whatever, but it was the greatest. But yeah, what

1:07:30

you should do is vomit comet. No, it's totally

1:07:33

awesome. You won't throw up. You're good. If you've

1:07:35

fought, they send you a list of things to

1:07:37

not do. Like, you don't eat within a certain

1:07:39

window and you don't eat certain things. Like, if

1:07:41

you just do all that, you're fine. Okay. Plus,

1:07:43

you're finally a professional athlete, dude. I like that. You

1:07:46

can do it. No, I'm not. I'm

1:07:48

learning that with the soccer tournament training. Last question. Hot

1:07:51

could. Hot looks like an astronaut. I

1:07:53

did it twice, McGee. I did it twice, at

1:07:55

least eight times. Both times I went up with

1:07:58

that, McGee. The Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels. and

1:08:00

bullet engines. Oh you did both. Both times massively

1:08:02

puked. Yeah I loved it great time but I

1:08:04

puked my life away. Yeah it's nice to great

1:08:06

it's the greatest thing I ever did was flying

1:08:09

with thunderbirds. Like it was. It was. It was.

1:08:11

It was. It was. And that my wife and

1:08:13

daughter are tired of hearing about it.

1:08:15

I literally can't get more than a day and a

1:08:17

half without bringing it. It was in 2019. I

1:08:20

can't get more than a day and a half. Have you

1:08:22

wanted any? Have you ever wanted any before? Uh yeah. Yeah.

1:08:24

Yeah. Hey hey hey hey hey. Hey. How's game day?

1:08:26

Y'all. I got that. I got that. You're a part

1:08:29

of game day too. That's a big deal. Hey you're

1:08:31

a part of game day too. I heard a lot

1:08:33

more of your voice this year. Yeah I was really

1:08:35

fortunate this year that I got to write those essays

1:08:37

each week and um and they you know we we

1:08:39

had so much fun with those. You did great. I

1:08:41

appreciate it. Are you doing it again next year? I

1:08:44

hope so. Hell yeah. I mean we

1:08:46

want to hear me. I don't want to mess with

1:08:48

the with the roster right? Yeah don't change the roster.

1:08:50

Are y'all listening? They're not. There's a lot of listening

1:08:52

that should be done but now we will listen uh

1:08:55

about some hockey and what's

1:08:57

going on. Last night Connor

1:08:59

McDavid had his yup he's

1:09:02

still Connor McDavid night. Not only game winner

1:09:04

and double overtime after missing one in the

1:09:06

first overtime after getting a penalty in the

1:09:08

first overtime as well. Has a nice leadership

1:09:10

role that he is. He's found himself in

1:09:13

the Edmonton Oilers. Obviously a lot of people

1:09:15

chat about this guy for a while being

1:09:17

the next one. This kid is the kid.

1:09:19

Watch him play hockey. You will fall in

1:09:21

love with hockey. Last night he has an

1:09:23

assist and a game-winning goal. Even though the

1:09:25

goalie for Dallas stood on his damn head

1:09:28

with a touch like that you can't help

1:09:30

but say to yourself damn this guy is

1:09:32

real deal. He might be the next Sidney

1:09:34

Crosby and damn it if he wins there

1:09:36

will be a lot of weight lifted off

1:09:38

his shoulder. Joining us now is a guy

1:09:40

that can tell us a little bit more

1:09:42

about the Western Conference Finals and even the

1:09:44

Eastern Conference Finals that have rampant benching in

1:09:46

the healthy scratch. Come on. That's his Rangers

1:09:48

team. Yeah. He has a physical Florida cat.

1:09:50

Ladies and gentlemen P.K. Subed.

1:09:52

What's behind you there?

1:09:55

J.T.A.M. with

1:10:00

the beef and broccoli Tatum kid hey

1:10:06

poor thing gets to with the

1:10:08

skyhook he's coming back yeah game

1:10:10

four pk get pumped brother come

1:10:12

on now hey you hey paces

1:10:14

have paces haven't lost since what

1:10:16

what day was it march 18

1:10:19

that's good to change

1:10:21

real quick real quick okay

1:10:23

pk tatum yeah you've been

1:10:25

doing you've been doing tatum

1:10:27

better than tatum's been doing

1:10:29

tatum in this particular series

1:10:32

thus far but i do fear that uh

1:10:34

he's about to go bananas we gotta call

1:10:36

you back pk i mean all your shit

1:10:38

talk is muddying the internet yeah that was

1:10:40

connection just to be clear too tatum had

1:10:42

36 points game one okay but

1:10:44

it didn't matter because nobody saw him because all

1:10:46

anybody saw was what the patience did for the

1:10:48

final 10 seconds of that game exactly and jaylen

1:10:50

brown hitting that corner three was

1:10:53

siakham literally yeah yeah

1:10:55

how's he making i have no idea i know especially

1:10:58

because the pagers had 390 passes why the hell are

1:11:00

you thinking about that oh but like let's get an

1:11:02

arm up okay just don't i think he just double

1:11:04

punched right to the chest yeah so it was that

1:11:06

it was that he first got the ball he almost

1:11:08

like p-a pump faked almost so then siakham was like

1:11:10

i can't fowl him because then three free throws and

1:11:12

then he didn't shoot it and then he reset and

1:11:14

there's he's like oh no it's four yeah now it's

1:11:16

four four now i say i'm one yeah exactly game

1:11:18

over yeah i kind of put him a little chest

1:11:20

hole mental you know a little yeah well that's what

1:11:23

the seltics do they they make you think one thing

1:11:25

and then hey guess what oh you guys are shinzu

1:11:27

all the time over here lay up chin lay up

1:11:29

dead check it out he's not dead in the south

1:11:31

of the locker room they they read art of war

1:11:33

did you know shinzu died yeah

1:11:36

couple years ago really yeah

1:11:38

i thought shinzu i thought that was like i

1:11:40

thought that was like five thousand years ago right

1:11:43

no yeah maybe ten we didn't know

1:11:45

about different shinsu we didn't know that

1:11:47

now you would be right yeah i

1:11:49

found out shinzu was dead and i

1:11:51

was so bummed lord everybody talks about

1:11:53

the art of war they use i

1:11:55

mean seltics joe mezola will probably

1:11:57

say you know you gotta think one thing make them do

1:11:59

this the other you know appear strong when weak

1:12:01

appear weak when strong like there's the art of

1:12:03

war like changed every single competitors mentality. Well Pat

1:12:05

Raleigh was the guy right? Pat Raleigh was the

1:12:07

one that like handed it out and made everybody

1:12:10

read it and they're like what are we doing

1:12:12

and then they all ended up you know now

1:12:14

everybody reads. Well guys dead though. Yeah. They do

1:12:16

talk about that though. They do actually read art

1:12:18

of war the entire team and like that is

1:12:21

something they implement with their. Hey Carlisle listen I

1:12:23

know we don't have a lot of time for

1:12:25

the next game we need everybody reading Shinji's Bible.

1:12:27

Respect. Albert, figuring it out. Well he's. Albert knows

1:12:29

Shinji. He needs a left hand. I mean it's

1:12:31

a Hammy right? Hammy's don't just heal overnight. I

1:12:33

mean I feel bad for the dude. I hope

1:12:36

he finds a way to make it work. Yeah

1:12:38

I'm not happy about it. Obviously it's a bummer

1:12:40

but this is professional sports and we are very

1:12:42

deep into the season and the way the Pacers play.

1:12:44

Yeah. You know there's a chance that this is gonna

1:12:46

happen to all teams. You know we just got to

1:12:48

hope that fuel the pain bridge you know is loud

1:12:50

and rowdy and what I just got a little bit

1:12:52

of a breaking news. I think Ryan

1:12:54

McGee is gonna be in fuel the pain bridge field

1:12:57

house on Saturday night. Wow. Yeah.

1:12:59

Yeah that's what I heard. That's Market

1:13:01

Square Arena right? That's the name

1:13:03

of the... I would

1:13:06

appreciate your history of Indianapolis being on display.

1:13:08

Honestly I had dinner a lot at downtown

1:13:10

last night and the game was on every

1:13:12

television and it rained literally across the

1:13:14

street and everyone's mad and then

1:13:16

everybody just started telling old-school Market Square Arena stories because they

1:13:18

didn't want to talk about what was happening. In the press.

1:13:20

To the team yeah. Yeah. But no I'll do it. But

1:13:23

yeah can I wear that helmet? I'm just gonna walk in

1:13:25

with that helmet. Like Marshmello.

1:13:28

Maybe we'll get you an actual Marshmello. It's good

1:13:31

idea. Not a bad idea. Just to wrap up

1:13:33

that whole conversation as soon as I

1:13:35

saw the head getting put on to Mr. Mello I

1:13:37

did think to myself

1:13:39

wow what a business. You

1:13:41

could have four gigs one

1:13:43

night you need four people. Yeah. That look in

1:13:46

her belt. They can do this deal. Yeah. Yeah

1:13:48

cuz only one of them needs to be able

1:13:50

to actually do it. Put a button. Everybody else

1:13:52

is just Marshmello dancing in the car. What a

1:13:54

genius business. That was my first night. It was

1:13:57

like 7 30 in the morning. I just woke

1:13:59

up. been a little hungover and I look over and I

1:14:01

see it all unfolding I'm like of course

1:14:03

what a fucking genius want to move that's the

1:14:05

move but I don't think mellow would let anybody

1:14:08

else plays no nobody else's represent more I think

1:14:10

also alright so this is this is me comparing

1:14:12

myself to marshmallow the when I was when I

1:14:14

was in high school my buddy Dave and I

1:14:16

used to DJ like middle school dances we'd have

1:14:18

damn records you get you know the all the

1:14:20

David McGee yeah yeah so what we figured out

1:14:22

was was like dude I think I could just

1:14:24

make a mix tape and we could just put

1:14:26

that in and act like we're doing record and

1:14:28

so that's what we started doing we just made

1:14:31

put the dance on a minute they were over

1:14:33

there like we're putting needles on record

1:14:35

everybody's just dancing it was like a solid

1:14:38

90 minute playlist yeah yeah boy like in this

1:14:40

great no request no exactly so I play slow

1:14:42

so no way the hell get out of here

1:14:44

you want that next that's

1:14:47

the marshmallow handing out you just hit this you

1:14:50

know put on your helmet go hit this phone

1:14:52

drive we're good and we need a good there's

1:14:54

probably a class or two yeah oh yeah yeah

1:14:56

yeah they're all in front of the mirror yeah

1:15:01

they're all doing the whole thing sorry so this chair is

1:15:03

14 feet high and this microphone

1:15:08

is literally a cross-level and it Marty McGee

1:15:10

the mic is like up here

1:15:14

almost in my nose I'm

1:15:16

just you can move it I don't want

1:15:19

to mess with y'all's deal so I'm sure

1:15:21

you can lower the chair I think right

1:15:23

video yeah I just apologize

1:15:26

I keep hitting the microphone at this point they're just

1:15:29

expecting it so other side other side that one yeah

1:15:31

I was on the right side I'll do it to

1:15:33

the next

1:15:38

break in 40 minutes or no oh no don't

1:15:40

do the same thing all right we're good we're

1:15:43

fine no no no now you guys have a

1:15:45

touch to yet make you ladies and gentlemen

1:15:48

joining us now is a man who

1:15:50

is ruined our show with his technical

1:15:53

shit it's a

1:15:55

lot like one with a Thunderbirds

1:15:57

right yeah silly auto here

1:16:00

on this beautiful field, good Friday. Ryan

1:16:03

McGee is a above

1:16:06

four foot eight. Although right now. You gotta

1:16:08

raise it brother. You gotta go back up

1:16:10

a little. That's a slow little guy. I'm

1:16:12

gonna keep going. Thank you

1:16:14

so much for joining us now. This guy who,

1:16:16

his technical issues, not only with his microphone, but

1:16:18

his internet, have tried to ruin our show before.

1:16:20

But he's so damn electrifying, how could you not

1:16:22

have him back on? Amen. Hockey

1:16:24

expert, P.K. Subban. Yeah, he

1:16:26

got that. Yeah, that's a stupid hat.

1:16:29

I got the wifi going. Oh, it's in

1:16:31

the back. Yeah. Portrait mode. Where are

1:16:33

you right now? I

1:16:35

am in New York City. I am here

1:16:37

for now. I'll be up in Bristol later

1:16:39

doing the game tonight. Big one tonight at

1:16:41

MSG. Okay, let's talk about, so you're

1:16:44

in New York and leave the games in New York.

1:16:46

Cause we gotta get to the studio. We gotta do

1:16:48

some good talk and we appreciate the coverage all year.

1:16:50

You boys have been crushing it over there. Boys have

1:16:52

been crushing it over there. Moose has become a friend

1:16:55

of the program too, which is a big development. We're

1:16:57

very pumped about that. Let's talk about this Rangers team.

1:16:59

So Rempe, obviously the big story going into Florida Panthers.

1:17:01

He hadn't played for a while. But going against Florida

1:17:03

Panthers, very physical team. Do you think you

1:17:06

would want the Rumpire State Building B in there? He's

1:17:08

a healthy scratch. Did Florida just out physical this Rangers

1:17:10

team? Is this what this is gonna be? Are they

1:17:12

just outclassing the Rangers team? And why is Rempe not

1:17:14

on the damn ice, P.K.? Okay,

1:17:16

first to address that with the Rangers.

1:17:19

I played for Peter Labiolep for three years

1:17:21

in Nashville. And I know for him, one

1:17:23

of the most frustrating things must have been

1:17:26

watching his team start the

1:17:28

game and start that series. This is not

1:17:30

typical of a Peter Labiolep team because

1:17:33

in my opinion, he's probably the best

1:17:35

motivational coach in the league. This

1:17:38

guy gets you prepared to play in a

1:17:40

way like no other coach. Like you want

1:17:42

to tear the door off the hinges, froth

1:17:44

coming out of your mouth, knees bent. Like

1:17:46

that's the way he gets his teams to

1:17:48

play every game. And I think that's why

1:17:50

they won the President's trophy this year is

1:17:52

because they were prepared to play every

1:17:55

game. X's and O's. But for

1:17:57

me, the start of this series had nothing to do with

1:17:59

it. with X's and O's. The emotion just wasn't

1:18:02

there for the Rangers. I don't know why. Maybe

1:18:04

it's the time off. Doesn't matter. You knew

1:18:06

what type of fight you were getting into

1:18:09

with the Florida Panthers. And I think

1:18:11

as far as Rempe goes,

1:18:14

I like the move of not playing them the

1:18:16

first game. It's up to those guys in the

1:18:18

locker room that have been there all year. You

1:18:20

know, Matt Rempe is gonna be a great player

1:18:22

for the New York Rangers, hopefully for a long

1:18:25

time. And he brings an element that they will

1:18:27

definitely need in this playoffs. There's no doubt about

1:18:29

it. But I like the move of giving Heedle

1:18:31

and some of the other guys an opportunity to

1:18:33

get into the lineup. Now, whether you bring a

1:18:35

guy who hasn't played pretty much all playoffs and

1:18:38

put him in there, that's another story or not.

1:18:40

But I think holding Rempe out and giving some

1:18:42

of the older veteran guys an opportunity to set

1:18:44

the tone was the right move. Now you can

1:18:46

always go back to him and we'll see if

1:18:48

he's in there tonight. Okay, go ahead AJ. What

1:18:51

about another side? What about when you look at the Panthers

1:18:53

and you see like the stars are coming out. I mean,

1:18:55

to Chuck, we watch everything that he does seems to just

1:18:57

he's so fun to watch as well as the rest of

1:18:59

the team. How do you think they match up with the

1:19:01

rest of the series? And what happens if they go up

1:19:03

to oh, on the well,

1:19:06

I'll tell you that hit specifically right there.

1:19:08

And I had asked a couple fans that

1:19:10

I know, you know, we talk

1:19:12

hockey all the time. And I said, Have

1:19:14

you seen Vinnie Pro check get hit that

1:19:16

many times in one game this season and

1:19:18

everybody that consensus was no. And I'm gonna

1:19:20

tell you the Florida Panthers, they know who

1:19:22

the star players are in the Rangers. They

1:19:24

abused them all last game in the first,

1:19:26

the second and the third and they didn't

1:19:28

stop. And it wasn't just on Vinnie throw

1:19:31

check. It was on Adam Fox as well.

1:19:33

Truba tried to get his physicality going. That's

1:19:35

fine. The Florida Panthers are prepared

1:19:37

for that. But this is what

1:19:39

we knew was going to happen in this

1:19:41

series. Nobody should be fit. If anybody says

1:19:43

they're surprised, they're fake surprised. I told you

1:19:45

that this series would be one in front

1:19:47

of the next in the corners along the

1:19:49

boards. I told you the match ups would

1:19:51

be important. I don't know if they're gonna

1:19:53

keep their deep parents together, but they might

1:19:56

have to shake it up a little bit.

1:19:58

It'll be interesting to see because that That'll

1:20:00

be the story of the series for me, is

1:20:02

gonna be what Peter Labiolette's gonna do with his

1:20:04

lineup. He's got so many weapons, I

1:20:06

think he's gonna juggle them a little bit. I would,

1:20:08

because you definitely have to find a way. We know

1:20:11

they're gonna come out harder than they did in game

1:20:13

one, right? They can't possibly come

1:20:15

out flatter than they did in game one.

1:20:17

They're gonna come out with the energy, but

1:20:19

I think match ups are gonna be key.

1:20:22

Kachuk and Barkov are a problem. You think

1:20:24

they're physical and they're skilled, they have experience,

1:20:26

they were in the finals last year, the

1:20:28

moment isn't going to get too big for

1:20:31

these guys. So the Rangers gotta take a

1:20:33

look in the mirror and elevate their compete

1:20:35

level. The emotions gotta go way up. Forget

1:20:37

the X's and O's for a second. The

1:20:40

emotions gotta go way up for the Rangers,

1:20:42

way, way up. Hey Nick, you know,

1:20:44

I know you love the sport of

1:20:46

hockey, hosted that's hockey

1:20:48

talk, World Ball Hockey Champion. Obviously we

1:20:50

grew up in hockey, time,

1:20:52

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, multiple back-to-back Stanley

1:20:54

Cup winners throughout our livelihood

1:20:56

out there. I mean,

1:20:58

you know, all that stuff. Whenever your star

1:21:00

players are getting bombed on, who's normally on

1:21:02

the roster to protect them? What is that?

1:21:04

Well, Pat, when you have an absolute animal

1:21:06

that can throw bombs and throw his body

1:21:09

around, maybe you want to get them in

1:21:11

the lineup and have him put someone into

1:21:13

the glass in the first row. Maybe a

1:21:15

little feet in the, I'm just, maybe a

1:21:17

little grip. I can't skate. Maybe a little

1:21:19

jump. I don't know. Bad paper, bad paper. Isn't

1:21:22

that like what hockey is? Isn't that like

1:21:24

an entire role of what it was, especially

1:21:26

in a self policing sport that it is?

1:21:28

You tell me you like the move, letting

1:21:30

the vets and not having a RMP out

1:21:32

there. It's like Florida Panthers like the two.

1:21:34

They had no fear at all of any

1:21:36

repercussions of anything. I don't know when they're

1:21:38

going after people. Pat, thank

1:21:41

God I'm not a coach because if I was the

1:21:43

coach of the New York Rangers, I

1:21:45

would have had these guys eating nails for

1:21:47

breakfast, lunch and dinner all week, getting prepared

1:21:49

for this game. I would have had them.

1:21:51

I would have been shooting pucks, having blocking

1:21:53

shots with their faces. I would have been

1:21:55

having them just do all out war, dog

1:21:57

fights in the corner because that's what this.

1:22:00

series is going to be. Yes, the

1:22:02

Florida Panthers got a lot of skill

1:22:04

and talent, but you're exactly right. You got

1:22:06

to get physical. You got to get

1:22:08

like for me, you want to

1:22:10

be the first to get to them. You don't want

1:22:12

to let them, you don't want to be the person

1:22:14

reacting. You got to set the tone. And for me

1:22:16

coming out and punching them right in the face, you

1:22:19

knew Florida was going to do that. To me, the

1:22:21

range is you can't afford to be on your heels.

1:22:23

Eastern Conference final. I don't care how good your

1:22:25

team is, how deep your team is. Every

1:22:28

arena in this league gets smaller. The

1:22:30

ice gets tighter. There's less time and

1:22:32

space out there. So it's not just

1:22:34

on Panarin and Vinny, Projekt and the

1:22:37

stars on the team, the younger guys

1:22:39

left right in your head. Oh, if he's

1:22:41

in the lineup, um, Cooley,

1:22:43

all these guys, Jimmy, all

1:22:45

their depth players have

1:22:47

to bring more energy to that job. And

1:22:49

to be honest, I'd love to pick on

1:22:51

some guys right now. There's no one to

1:22:54

pick on. It's their whole team. Their whole

1:22:56

team's got to get the energy. The brightest,

1:22:58

the best player for me on their back

1:23:00

end was with Schneider. He's the only guy

1:23:02

that played with some jump and some, some,

1:23:04

some pizzazz and some juice physical. He had

1:23:06

the breakaway, he hit the post. Everybody's

1:23:09

got to be pulling on the rope this

1:23:11

time of year. And that's the only bright

1:23:13

spot for the Rangers is that they can

1:23:15

probably take that game, toss it in the

1:23:17

trash. They got to bring the emotions tonight.

1:23:19

Tonight is about energy. It's about pride. It's

1:23:21

your building. You can't allow Florida Panthers to

1:23:24

walk in there and

1:23:26

smack you around for two games. Can't

1:23:28

happen. Yeah. And you know, the Florida

1:23:31

Panthers will. And, uh, when you talk about

1:23:33

taking a game and throwing it in the

1:23:36

trash, Pacers tried to

1:23:38

do that for the first game and then carried

1:23:40

it. They had no, they had no pizzazz or

1:23:42

jam. That hat's not big

1:23:45

enough for your head. So I'm okay. Well,

1:23:47

I just got a haircut. I'm not ruining

1:23:49

it. I got just got a tight. It

1:23:51

is fresh. It is very fresh. You look

1:23:53

good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crispy. It's conference finals.

1:23:55

Got to, got to do it. Hey, as

1:23:57

we stay on the East, McGee's got a.

1:24:00

question for you. Yeah, PK, you just mentioned

1:24:02

arenas, right? And listen, I understand every arena

1:24:04

is an arena and you're homey, but what

1:24:06

we're sitting there talking about the Pacers this

1:24:09

weekend and pain bridge arena and all that

1:24:11

stuff. What is MSG like when

1:24:13

the games matter and how

1:24:15

important is that for the Rangers? Is

1:24:18

it the best in the league? Is it amongst

1:24:20

the best in the league in the end? It's

1:24:22

got to be the best arena in all sports.

1:24:24

I mean, just from the history and

1:24:26

everything in terms of the noise and the sound, I'm

1:24:29

a little bit biased playing in Montreal at

1:24:31

the Bell Center right in the playoffs. I've

1:24:33

never heard a sports arena that loud. Like,

1:24:35

I mean, we're talking about in warmups like

1:24:37

pucks vibrating on the ice type of noise

1:24:39

and energy. So crazy, but MSG, I mean,

1:24:41

it's got to be in the top three

1:24:44

of all time. And I'm gonna be out

1:24:46

when I watch the Rangers play when

1:24:48

they're playing great. It's loud in there. But when

1:24:50

Matt Rump is running around on that ice, that's

1:24:52

you said you like to move. Yeah, you said

1:24:54

you like to move and he's not on there.

1:24:57

I will let you know. No, no, no, no.

1:24:59

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I like

1:25:01

to move for game one because you've

1:25:03

got the Aces page in your pocket.

1:25:05

You got that. This series is going

1:25:08

six. What are we waiting for? He

1:25:10

gave us true bad. True. But the

1:25:12

trouble was a tough guy. It's a

1:25:14

conference finals. I don't care. I don't

1:25:16

want the cup. Do they? You don't

1:25:18

want the

1:25:30

cup. You don't want the cup. You don't

1:25:32

want the cup. Come on. Hey, I got

1:25:34

to be on to

1:26:00

get in there. There's in there. When

1:26:03

he gets in there, he's got to

1:26:05

play with it. He's got to be

1:26:07

aware because he may not cross the

1:26:09

line and get called. I watched Florida

1:26:11

last game, impose their will

1:26:13

all over the ice on the Rangers for 60

1:26:16

minutes. And I don't know, they had two

1:26:18

penalties. I think they were late in the

1:26:20

game. Like they were very well disciplined. So

1:26:23

Matt Redby, as much as I want to

1:26:25

see him bring that energy, he's got to

1:26:27

manage it. And trust me, I will hold

1:26:29

the refs and the officiating accountable. If they're,

1:26:32

if they're, if they're calling chins, he calls

1:26:34

on them and he's playing within the lines.

1:26:36

I'll say something, but he can't

1:26:38

be having chicken wings. He's got to keep his,

1:26:40

his arms down. He's got to play within the

1:26:42

room. Let's go to the west. Obviously last night,

1:26:44

I want to

1:26:51

see it. I want to see it. Sorry.

1:26:53

I want them. I want it. I want

1:26:55

it. Okay. I don't want

1:27:04

to come. They just want their khaki. Anyways, let's

1:27:06

go to the Western. They got them. Let's

1:27:08

go to the Western side of this entire thing. Last

1:27:11

night, Connor McDavid, how you doing? Best player in

1:27:13

hockey. Some people think how you doing a sick

1:27:16

game winner. This a massive game for Connor McDavid,

1:27:18

who was on a little bit of a shite

1:27:20

whenever it came to scoring goals was

1:27:22

obviously affecting games and dry saddle kind of made up

1:27:24

for him. But last night, Connor

1:27:26

McDavid gets a big time win in double

1:27:29

overtime. This is huge. Now there's a team

1:27:31

down in Texas, the Dallas stars who, you

1:27:33

know, were the odds on favorites to maybe

1:27:35

go on and win this entire thing. Dumpy

1:27:38

has a question for you, PK. Yeah. PK

1:27:41

Stu skin kind of bounced back after being

1:27:43

benched. Do you think he can continue this

1:27:45

and how many games you think the Texas

1:27:47

hockey wins this series in? Well,

1:27:51

uh, I said, quote, that

1:27:54

I don't care if it's four or five, six

1:27:57

or seven games, the Dallas stars will end up

1:27:59

winning this. So I'm not going

1:28:01

to retract from that statement because that's how

1:28:03

I feel about their team when they're playing

1:28:05

their best Yesterday, they started the game off

1:28:08

right and they for some reason they came

1:28:10

out in the second period took their foot

1:28:12

off the Gas pedal and forgot they're in

1:28:14

the Western Conference final and they're four wins

1:28:17

away from the Stanley Cup final Which you

1:28:19

cannot do you can't afford to do not

1:28:21

when you have the world's best player across

1:28:23

the ice and possibly the second third or

1:28:25

fourth best player across the ice as well

1:28:28

and Leon Drycidal. So I Did

1:28:31

preface my my pick with

1:28:33

this? I said as much

1:28:36

as Dallas could win in four five six or seven

1:28:38

games if Connor McDavid

1:28:41

Shows up and elevates his game

1:28:43

to not just one level But

1:28:45

two or three levels higher because

1:28:47

he has that if he

1:28:49

does that now it's a coin flip It's

1:28:51

you don't know what could happen and we saw that

1:28:53

in game one And by the

1:28:55

way, the way he skated and attacked the

1:28:58

game yesterday We he hadn't done

1:29:00

that all playoffs like I don't know. I

1:29:02

said last series against Vancouver He had three

1:29:04

assists in like in like three and six

1:29:06

games or something like that. I said something

1:29:09

like he's got to get going He's not

1:29:11

attacking the defense. He's not attacking

1:29:13

goaltenders. He's not attacking the game. It's more

1:29:15

passive aggressive Well, that wasn't the case last

1:29:17

night. He wanted to be the guy last

1:29:20

night He wanted to be the guy to

1:29:22

put his team over the top And

1:29:24

if it wasn't for Jake Ottens here, it would have happened

1:29:27

a lot earlier in overtime But Connor

1:29:29

McDavid made no doubt about it. This guy's

1:29:31

come to play He knows he's

1:29:33

got to get to the Stanley Cup final and

1:29:35

he's playing like it Maybe continues to play like

1:29:37

that. They definitely can win this series. Are you

1:29:39

kidding me a hundred percent? But if

1:29:41

the Dallas Stars find their game if

1:29:44

they find their game Which I don't think they

1:29:46

can play worse than they did yesterday as much

1:29:48

as everybody might think they played Okay, that's not

1:29:50

the Dallas Stars. We team we've seen for the

1:29:52

first couple rounds. That's not the team we saw

1:29:54

against They thought that's not what we're banging a

1:29:57

glass. Oh No, no one

1:29:59

no No, they should have won,

1:30:01

but yeah, no generation. Let's

1:30:04

see how game two goes. I think Dallas has

1:30:06

to get it definitely

1:30:10

You know, they're banged up a little bit down the middle.

1:30:12

They definitely They need

1:30:14

to get healthy down the middle and get their guy

1:30:16

back there. What's his roof? Hey, we need to pay

1:30:18

back Me roof

1:30:21

a Martin was throwing the body around

1:30:23

last night. So Nathan Martin's a dog

1:30:27

Rope hits why this guy's so key

1:30:30

So big he's skilled

1:30:32

and he can skate with a guy

1:30:34

like make it like when you think

1:30:36

about shutting down Centermen having him against

1:30:38

a dry side or McDavid is huge.

1:30:40

It's massive. It's everything So you can't

1:30:42

lose a guy like that, but they

1:30:44

have enough depth. So I think Dallas

1:30:46

they got to get healthy Okay, game

1:30:48

in order and figure it out. But

1:30:50

Jake got injured. I thought he shut

1:30:52

the door when he knew what's Pat

1:30:54

doing over He's working on his day.

1:30:56

He's what I mean. You ever seen

1:30:58

anything like that before probably not a potato

1:31:00

hot potato He's got a case of dangle I Wants

1:31:07

the cup and conditions are The

1:31:09

cop I saw McDavid last night did his thing

1:31:11

lefty I said, you know, I wouldn't mind deflected

1:31:14

a ball or two this morning can't skate with

1:31:16

the guys absolutely not Yeah, that's not bad though.

1:31:18

It's not bad. I could use a left-handed defenseman.

1:31:20

Honestly my men's league Hi, you

1:31:22

coming through New York anytime soon. Let's go. I just

1:31:24

ball off here. We on ice. Oh Yeah,

1:31:27

I forgot you can't get can you skate or no?

1:31:29

No. Yeah, I don't do snow Nobody everybody there's a

1:31:31

lot of people knew the show that don't think that

1:31:33

right this guy's trying to be on all the cocaine

1:31:36

I don't do the snow and I don't do the

1:31:38

ice That is in

1:31:40

my that is my thing. I'm a land

1:31:42

animal. I'm a land animal or tree. Okay

1:31:49

Hey, dude Bob Marley

1:31:51

kid. Hey Bob Marley. Whoa,

1:31:53

you watch the movie? Oh

1:31:57

Yeah, was that a weed was that a weed thing you had on

1:31:59

the other side? I'm not sure what it was

1:32:01

it could be I don't know birds was there a

1:32:03

tree of them as a Canadian logo I thought yeah

1:32:07

the maple leaf Some

1:32:09

maple leaf. Yeah, absolutely. That's sleep at

1:32:11

that's the maple leaf. Yeah, absolutely Look

1:32:14

at that nice bumba clap hoodie there you

1:32:17

go All right, have a

1:32:19

good one, bro. We're out of here. Yeah Yeah

1:32:24

Hey, Shaka, you're doing a great job. All right. I won't

1:32:26

let you know that you're doing a phenomenal job of what

1:32:28

you're doing We can't wait to watch tonight. Thank you for

1:32:30

joining us pal Thanks guys.

1:32:32

Love you guys. Yeah, you too. Okay, sir

1:32:35

What now you meant something you're insulting?

1:32:37

Oh, no, I bet paces. I bet

1:32:40

basis go paces. They're in one Oh

1:32:56

Such a good move Reverse

1:32:58

dunk. I don't know if I've ever seen tatum

1:33:01

off a reverse dog Does McGee

1:33:03

know how good of a basketball player pk

1:33:05

is pk impersonates basketball for the last like

1:33:07

three weeks now that? He

1:33:09

found out that the Celtics exist I guess I mean have

1:33:11

you ever talked to that guy You

1:33:13

know pk. I don't know him but I've talked

1:33:15

to he is electrified He's mad so

1:33:17

I get to write with my job. I get to

1:33:20

write a lot of scripts That

1:33:22

I don't voice like other people like this like opens

1:33:24

for shows like teases and stuff really it's I get

1:33:26

to write scripts From Messier and PK. Did you do

1:33:28

Messier's the other night? Yeah, that one was all unbelievable

1:33:30

appreciate it. Holy shit Yeah, that's all so I get

1:33:32

that I said that's one of my favorite Went up

1:33:34

in my previous life when I was a TV producer.

1:33:37

That's what I would do I write scripts and so

1:33:39

I still get to do that a lot for You

1:33:42

know who you're writing for there right yeah Yeah,

1:33:45

and I did a thing for Casey Affleck couple

1:33:47

weeks ago. He just crushed

1:33:50

it was all milk Gave

1:33:52

a good milk speech. I think I got an

1:33:54

award. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I write a lot

1:33:56

of these things Shut

1:33:59

up we're trying to learn What he actually did that was

1:34:01

walking About

1:34:06

taking milk from I

1:34:08

did not write Joaquin Joaquin's

1:34:13

I know I should have but yeah, but so

1:34:15

I know this is funny I know a lot of

1:34:17

people in the company that I don't really know because

1:34:19

I'll send scripts and we'll go back and forth or

1:34:21

Whatever else and so yeah, he's the man. He's great.

1:34:23

He's electric. Yeah. Yeah. He really is great. He loves

1:34:25

the sport That's the thing too is I hate analysts

1:34:27

that act like they don't want to be there You

1:34:30

know, I mean like they're getting paid and it's great

1:34:32

But it's kind of a hassle and I feel like

1:34:34

they're just waiting to get on the plane agreed But

1:34:36

those guys are just I mean, they're so fired up

1:34:38

screen Oh a hundred percent as a producer you shot

1:34:40

me crazy. I'm like if you don't want to be

1:34:42

here You know, we're paying you

1:34:44

a lot of money. We could find plenty of people that will

1:34:46

be here But yeah, but but well someone really

1:34:48

wants to be in the middle of it You sense that's

1:34:50

why game days a great show because when

1:34:52

you're it would the game day crew wants to be

1:34:55

in the middle of all That you know, yeah, it's

1:34:57

just that's why that's why it works. That's like the

1:34:59

football thing I feel like it's like all those people

1:35:01

care so much more about Football than

1:35:03

there are other sports and goes back to yeah

1:35:05

Like the legacy of it and like that energy

1:35:07

that they bring and then you guys I mean

1:35:09

we almost just dropped an F

1:35:12

bomb But we love for today. Yes, like 30

1:35:14

this week. Yeah, I'm real loose It's

1:35:17

a really sweet. Oh It's the

1:35:19

only word not allowed to say like but you're

1:35:21

in a church like that part I didn't get like

1:35:23

I want to show I'm like whatever say whatever words

1:35:25

you want to see But you're in a church that

1:35:27

it freaks me out a little under. Yeah, you see

1:35:29

I'm like, I'm like I got PTSD I grew up

1:35:31

Southern Baptist, North Carolina. Yeah, but these words were invented

1:35:33

by Jesus Christ. Yeah, you're on my mind Jesus

1:35:36

Christ Jesus

1:35:56

Christ I

1:36:00

mean he would be worthy of the the the effin

1:36:02

is the middle name more we were sure no doubt

1:36:04

did that rock Mm-hmm cuz we did

1:36:06

the rock When

1:36:09

Jesus like went out hung out

1:36:12

with the lepers and the prostitute awesome I'm

1:36:14

pretty sure he probably said a bad word.

1:36:16

I bet you know, he's just taking notes.

1:36:18

Okay. I just asked for that ghost Yeah,

1:36:20

yeah, he's yeah Guess

1:36:23

where what goes that's how the birds of the

1:36:25

bees door. What do you mean? Let's wrap up

1:36:28

with some stories that we haven't talked about yet

1:36:30

this week Aaron Rodgers was speaking

1:36:33

to the media He basically said yeah,

1:36:35

we suck on fire. Everybody's fired. Here's

1:36:37

his quote from All

1:36:41

of us here Well,

1:36:45

I think if If

1:36:47

I don't do what I know I'm capable of doing it We're

1:36:51

all probably gonna be out of here. So I

1:36:53

like that kind of pressure though. I

1:36:55

know there's You know, it's

1:36:58

a tough market to play in it's not for everybody. I relish

1:37:02

that opportunity and That's

1:37:06

the way to get a fellas I'm not saying anything monumental as

1:37:08

you guys are typing away Tweets

1:37:11

out this is how it is every single year. I might

1:37:13

you might not to say it But as

1:37:15

you get older in the league, if you don't perform They're

1:37:18

gonna get rid of you or bringing the next guy to

1:37:21

take over and they happen in Green Bay. So And

1:37:24

I'm you know a few years older than I was back

1:37:26

then so I expect to play at high

1:37:28

level I expect us to be productive and and

1:37:31

competitive and and all that stuff

1:37:33

to take care of itself He had no

1:37:35

who got house hat on right? On

1:37:38

standard issue, you know that is good looking but he

1:37:40

did have the thankful for love shirt Just letting people

1:37:42

know a wall about love around

1:37:44

here Mm-hmm. He is in a point

1:37:46

of life where he understands the pressure

1:37:48

and he is Good

1:37:50

with it. It feels like has he always been this

1:37:53

way AJ and did you talk about this at all

1:37:55

at the Derby? Of course, you're gonna say no, we

1:37:57

didn't bring up football at all. Even though he's coming

1:37:59

back after only being able to play four

1:38:01

plays for a team that entire marketing campaign, the

1:38:03

biggest city on earth, was about him playing. We

1:38:05

didn't talk about it at all, but how does

1:38:07

he feel going into the season? It feels like

1:38:09

everything is very on the up and up, and

1:38:11

this is the type Aaron Rodgers that normally plays

1:38:13

very well, right? And just kind of normally the

1:38:16