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Hello beautiful people and

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welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome

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on this feel good Friday, May 31st,

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2024. This

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program starts right now. Sports.

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Man, they're the greatest thing

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on earth aren't they? Hell

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yeah. Last night there was multiple

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playoff games in two different leagues and I'll tell

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you what, it was a beautiful evening. Not

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only did the Dallas Mavericks just beat the

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shit out of the Minnesota Timberwolves to win

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that series in advance to the NBA Finals

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against the Boston Celtics starting next week. The

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Florida Panthers go into New York

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and take a 3-2 series lead

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after a 3-2 game winner and

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I will say this for

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a time in sports in which they aren't

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our leagues. We can't thank

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sports enough for being as electrifying as they are

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being because even in the blowout of the Minnesota

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Timberwolves last night there was enough to watch to

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make you stay interested in the game. Mostly

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who could donch it's saying to himself

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everybody's talking about the next face of

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the NBA. Everybody has every

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other name that they want to be

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up there as the new one that's

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going to carry the NBA. Wemby, this

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guy's an alien. Ant-Man, this guy's a

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dog. He's the guy. Hey maybe Tatum

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or Jaylen Brown or maybe anybody except

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for this particular fella who just went absolutely

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bonkers. He was hitting shots literally from the

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logo so you got to guard him outside

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but then he has enough moves to go

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inside and hit you in the paint. He's

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talking shit the entire time and Snoop Dogg's

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watching the game and all he could literally

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do a couple different times is like what

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is this guy playing? He's

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playing a different sport than everybody else. Then you

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tag team alongside Kyrie. Luca outscored

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the Minnesota Timberwolves in the first quarter. Luca and

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Kyrie outscored the Minnesota Timberwolves in the entire first

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half. It was a

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blowout literally from the beginning all the way through but

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congrats to the Dallas Mavericks making it to the finals.

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Banking home shots like that, skipping away on one foot.

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If those are going to continue to fall we're going

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to have a great series with this Boston Celtics team.

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that has been phenomenally dominant

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through the Eastern Conference of

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this entire playoff series. Most

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recently, sweeping a very talented

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and gritty Indiana Pacers squad. I think we're

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in for a good one. Doesn't start till

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next week though, because both of these things

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ended so quickly. And obviously with TV schedules

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and yada yada yada. So the boys should

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be feeling good. They should be rested up

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and we should be in for a great

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one. Now, we are staring down a ton.

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Oh yeah. Right around the corner.

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I don't love it at all. Couple weeks

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away. So let's make sure we enjoy the hell out

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of this right now. The toxic table is here at

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Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. You got a tripping

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ball as a wolf on your shirt. I love that.

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Yeah, yeah, again, just reaching purple. You know, feel good

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Friday. I thought, no, I'll wear a purple shirt today.

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I love the color purple. That's

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literally the only reason why. That is for shoot. Okay. The

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only reason why I grabbed it. It happened to be this

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one. There are multiple purple shirts, but I just decided, you

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know what? I like that shade

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of purple. Hey, go plumb Mustangs. What happened to Hammer?

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That's how boys turn big here. Now tone hockey obviously

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can remain exciting over the next couple of days, but

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basketball takes a break for about a five days or

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so a week or whatever it is. It's like, are

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we going to get bummed out? What are we going

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to be just gamble on baseball? Is that what you're

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going to be doing? Yeah, we were still on the

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first five trains. We've been

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doing it all year, but explain please

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first five for baseball is instead

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of bathing the full game, the full nine innings. You

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only have to bet the first five. So the winner

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after the first five, which is normally the AC taking

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it on. So you have a little bit more information

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on who's going to be playing, who's not going to

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be playing. You don't need to know what the bullpen

3:30

is going to do because the starter should be finishing

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at least five innings because that's how long it takes

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to document a win or a loss. Exactly. A

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little less research. So you can just look at the starting

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pitchers. You don't have to see who in

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the bullpen pitch yesterday or the day before. Are they not

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going today and then the opposing hitters. So,

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yeah, that's going to come more to the forefront here after

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these finals and stuff ends. And that's

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really all you got. Well, actually, we got a nice little

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summer coming up. So now I don't know

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how everyone feels about it. But we

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got the euros of soccer to the Europe's. Summer

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Olympics this summer so it's actually as

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far as summers go best within that

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scenario in four years Yeah, at least

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so we're pumped about that obviously and

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you talk about aces What Paul schemes

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and Jerry Jones of the Pittsburgh Pirates

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hired the hunter boys the Allegheny Electric

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Company? Pittsburgh I believe

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Jeff passing might have slipped in yesterday or he

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just was choking on something while he was talking

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sure and he said Pittsburgh We'll be talking both

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the guys are throwing over a hundred miles an

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hour for the Pittsburgh Pirates and bringing hope and

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optimism to a town that hated the

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sport for a long time back and It

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should be a blast We'd never talked to two people

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at the same time unless it's a Japanese man who

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doesn't speak a lot of English He has an interpreter

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next to him, right? We'll be talking to both the

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hunter boys at the same exact time normally these suck

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I'm gonna say it but I think with the way

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these two have been working together perfectly Yeah in unison

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as to rookies that are taking over the MLB two

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different fashions one fresh out of college one It's been

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around a little bit. It is a rookie Campaign

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still so I think it'll go well We'll

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also have Paul Bizinet joining us of spit

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and chick with podcasts and also TNT's NHL

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coverage in the second hour I

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will set Michael Lombardi joining us in about 10

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minutes chitchat about OTA's and what needs to be

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chatted about in the NFL That's real and what's

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not real and joining us right now is a

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man who every time he comes on here

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He just preaches that gospel. Yeah, huh?

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What an incredible guest so smart the

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person that I hear most say From

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friends and people I run into they

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go I hated Austin

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Rivers That guy was

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the worst. Yep, Duke guy bullshit

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guy Hate

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this guy Because of his dad they

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said and then they say hey comes

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on yours. We want I love

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that guy He's a bad guy's awesome. That's a

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guy you need to have on your show more

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often man What a babyface turn for him. Ladies

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and gentlemen Austin Rivers That's

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what people say dude a lot of that a lot of that The

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intros are just getting better and better. I love it every

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time I come on here Thank you guys for having me

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once again Appreciate it. Well, it's the reality

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of the situation. Huh? You know

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whenever I get out in about nepotism Well,

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I don't think we've got Kind

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of came in More so that you

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know people just say hey you're only the lead The

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top ten pick of the top Ronny's

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about to be a top ten pick as

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well nonetheless a brawny brawny won the number

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one player Also,

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let my team in scoring as a freshman at a

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university called Duke well not too bad I'm

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only a very select few who's done that how long that

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was Yeah, absolutely

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as you should and I think this is potentially

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a reason why people enjoy you in the nepotism

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thing obviously Ty heard that from his neighbors But

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you are the human that whenever I go out

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and about and I catch up with people that

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I haven't talked to in A long time and

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they watch the program or whatever they go thought

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Austin Rivers is a massive piece of shit I

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had no idea that he comes on your show

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He's all I'm being serious when I say people

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love you on the program I hope you get

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to feel that we're very thankful that you come

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on here I gotta be

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honest with you. Um, I Have

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got a lot of good publicity from from from from from

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being on this show and when I say good publicity I've

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always got publicity, but it's this is positive one. This

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is good baby. I'm saying like baby. Yeah. Yeah Yeah,

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I love it and I actually enjoy coming on the

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show and talking to you guys. So I appreciate you

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have well We hate it, but it works. So let's

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uh, let's get through this as quick as possible No

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last night Luca decided they were gonna win

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that game and obviously Kyrie and he won

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bananas He beat the Minnesota Timberwolves in the

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first quarter himself He and Kyrie beat the

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Minnesota Timberwolves in the entire first half by

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themselves was what they scored it

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is a dominating performance in a knockout game

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and you heard Charles Barkley and Shaq and

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everybody on the TNT inside the NBA crew

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Charles Barkley was embarrassed for the Timberwolves like

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hey, you're the desperate ones here You're the

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ones that are supposed to show up like

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the Mavericks showed up Why do you think

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the Mavericks did that? Do you think they

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were pissed that it wasn't a sweep and

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you think they can carry this emotion into

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a very hostile TD Garden Boston Celtics team

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You know Dallas reminds me of one of those

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teams that hits stride at the right time in

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the NCAA tournament. You ever see one

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of those teams that was good all year and then the NCAA tournament

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comes and they just hit stride another hot? They're

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playing a level of basketball that I have not seen

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them play, particularly on the defensive end. I always knew

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Luke could score, Kyrie could score, but now they're doing

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it in unison. P.J.

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Washington, Gafford, all these additions that they

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got in the mid-seas proved to be

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huge, huge additions. And then Luke

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is just the baddest player in the planet with the basketball in

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his hands right now. I just call it what it

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is. He's unbelievable and

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I love Ant, I love Shay, I love

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some of these other young players, Tatum. Luke

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is the best player in the NBA and the only person

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that you could say outside of that or who has a

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chance to even be that would be Nikola because he's won

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three MVPs. You got to put him in the

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conversation of respect. But this dude right here, first

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off, just for Boston fans, leave

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him alone. Leave him alone. Every

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fan that does this thing with him and like gets him

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angry, he ends up just going and

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just cooking and just destroying everything

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in sight in front of him. He did this

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for Phoenix, he did it for

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the Clippers when a fan got into it with him and

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then yesterday he's looking over there chatting with Snoop Dogg. Just,

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I'm sorry to have it, look at him, look at him,

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look at him, look at this guy. Yeah,

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he told somebody to cry now, motherfucker, who's

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crying now, motherfucker? He said it's all, I

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mean, it's like, there's people that need that

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or like are motivated by that type of

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stuff. And obviously we've seen the videos of

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the basketball that he grew up in in

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the arenas. You know, it's like, I think

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he does need somebody potentially to like flip the

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switch. There's some people like that, Austin.

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Yeah, he looks for something like that. It's like sometimes

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he'll shoot or he'll complain. He'll look at the crowd

9:39

looking for someone to give him that and then he'll

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just be like, you know what, that's my next five

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minutes. I'm going to go at that guy five minutes

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and it's going to be because of you. I went

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on this 12-0 run. Dude's

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shooting at four feet behind the line, step backs.

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Brother, he's unbelievable. And the fact that he

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does this with very little athleticism just

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shows you the level of skill that this guy

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has. Very little at letting go

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or is that just white okay? Oh?

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We did it. Yeah, he's in early

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Go say I should say I

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should say tradition coaches look I

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should say traditional athlete because he's

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not like your traditional. You know

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jumping quick We

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get it on he does ever in the Not

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coordinated. Yeah, we get we understand what

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you're trying to say here Okay, and

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half of you is is being

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very hypocritical right now That's right

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the other the other half

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of me is like what the hell are we

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doing right now guys? No, what do we I

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hear you? I'm conflicted a lot of times when

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I talk about Luca, but he is athletic It's

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just in a different way, but he is unbelievable

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man and body control controlling a game getting fouls

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my god, man He's box office in

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my eyes. He's the best guard in the NBA And

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he's showing it this playoffs again. Just how Domini is

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there's nothing you can do with him He gets to

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any spot He wants to he picks the the

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way he was able to pick the defensive part Minnesota

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the number one defensive name it NBA by the way

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Unbelievable these crafties obviously

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sticky athletics like all those things we

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get it we understand what all the

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air is a dog So

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that leads me to this question Because of

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Anthony Edwards dogness We will say throughout the

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playoffs that we were seeing and him talking

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shit and how he plays in his competitive

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edge We all fell in love and by

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we I mean people that are like kind of outside of the

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NBA Then the NBA folks started saying

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like hey, that's the new face of the league

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here Ant-man's gonna be a new face. Obviously, when

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be he's gonna be the next face of the

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league Nobody really talks about Luca. Why is that

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because of he's just so untraditional the way

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he plays basketball in the NBA And

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I don't mean that by he's white but because he moves

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slow He doesn't you know, like

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he doesn't seemingly he's not super flashy not

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done. I'm watching It's that

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why or what do you think it is? I think

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I think sometimes we get just in the media in general I

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think we get used to greatness. Do you know what I mean?

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This is the guy who's been first team all NBA five

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years in a row like so it's not like he

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hasn't been spectacular no other young player

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has that type of title that they Can say you

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know tatum's made first team this year in a couple

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of years. This has been a continued thing for local

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He's been the baddest guard in the league for a

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while now His game isn't the most exciting if you're

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talking about vertical in the air and all that but

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it's like nicola I think nicola's one of the more

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exciting players to watch in the league other people might

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not But I think it is the fact

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that they're able to use their skill and IQ to dominate

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the game at such a high level I think is amazing

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And I think he's the most entertaining or one

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of the most entertaining players to play in basketball

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or watch it play basketball right now Just

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due to the fact of how competitive he is. I

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love him. I love how he goes out

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there. He talks his shit He don't care who

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it is who's watching whose garden of like you

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said the league pushed and is that guy? Luca

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came in there and said listen and is a great player,

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but I'm the alpha. I'm the guy Yeah, I'm the dude

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right now and he did it with his play He did

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it with talking and backing it up and now his teams

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in the finals and then what I would deem is one

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of the More exciting finals we've had in recent history I

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mean think about it last year We had Denver playing Miami

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and everyone knew that series is gonna be a quick, you

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know Quick four or five games in and out. We

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got a dogfight here, bro. Yeah Lot

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of storylines that you talked about like you

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hope Boston doesn't chirp luka Like they're definitely

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to be chirping Kyrie And if you look

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at the most unassisted field goals of players

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remaining and in some stats I think are

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maybe bullshit and you could probably know more

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about that, but you're right Yeah, it's like

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Luca and Kyrie. They're creating their own right

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in that one host unassisted ship means at

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a more rapid clip Is it better or

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worse for team play whenever you have the

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most unassisted points in the series? Or

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is like the way tatum and brown have the

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entire team kind of helping out Which do you

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think it favors because from what we've been told

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from our source Says around the

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NBA the reason why it's tough to prepare for this

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guy is because you have no fucking idea What he's

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gonna do you have no like each game? It's like

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he's kind of figuring it out as he

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goes so it's up to prepare for what are your thoughts

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early look ahead here For the style matchup

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that's gonna take place between the Celtics and the mass well

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if favors Boston Boston's the better team. They have

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better role players I think they're the best team

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in basketball and They have a variety

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of guys who could step up and chip in with 10 15

14:08

20-point games with that being said I said the same

14:10

thing with Minnesota I thought Minnesota was better than than

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Dallas and they proved me to be wrong because at

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the end of the day Even if they

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are a team led with

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two ISO players who have the most unassisted

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points Blah blah blah if they're both playing

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at this level and Luca and Kyrie

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are both co-existing going for 35 34 apiece I

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mean bro when you have two guys providing 60 to 70 points

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a game All you need is like

14:32

10 to 20 from the rest of the team It's

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very difficult to beat and they're doing it efficiently You

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said it best Pat the storylines in this

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are incredible Porzingis is gonna

14:43

be back in Dallas Tyree's gonna be back in

14:45

Boston after a lot was there stepping on the

14:47

floor Sage in the court flicking off

14:49

fans It's a situation didn't work

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out there. They pushed him out You got

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who's the best tool in the league is it Brown and

14:56

Tatum or is the Lucan Kyrie? Is

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I know Drew Holliday and Derek White are great defenders I

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want to know how great they are there hit there about

15:03

to be they're about to have their hands full This

15:05

is a great great finals. I'm very excited. I

15:08

have Boston winning book my guy man Who knows

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Dallas is the way Luca play right now. That's

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a bad boy Connor. Just said

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pushed out Let's let's relax. What I mean

15:16

talk about the storylines there, but you're right

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I mean it is and if you think

15:21

about the way He was

15:23

a little upset because they went to the Eastern Conference Finals

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about him I know that but that's what made him push

15:27

them out. They're like, yeah, we're good without okay And

15:31

when he goes to Brooklyn goes back to Boston, there's a lot of

15:33

storylines I did the middle finger behind my head kids did that to

15:35

people and then in the hallway I think

15:37

he told somebody to potentially kiss his penis

15:42

There is stopping on lucky there is a there was

15:44

a lot of things a lot that kind of some

15:46

place between he and Boston And it's like Celtics fans

15:48

are smart basketball fans been around a long time. Obviously

15:50

a lot of banners out there That's what it's all

15:52

about. Yeah, it's like they have to be pretty conflicted

15:54

because it's like Okay, so

15:56

that particular the white one

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there if we turn Okay,

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if we need to make sure we are directing This

16:04

one needs to know that we're talking to

16:06

this one Yeah at all times because if

16:08

this happens to just accidentally get to there

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he might go for 50 well if we

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don't We

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know Boston they're gonna know who yeah, yeah

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They know who in the bigger thing too

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is like the players Let's not

16:21

talk any trash as players because of course

16:24

the you know the T-wills fans Definitely

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helped him out a lot, but Ant-Man saying

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you know we'll see a game six back

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in Minnesota I got Kyrie on either side.

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Yeah, I doubt Luca like that too

16:35

much But Austin as far as the

16:37

coaching matchups go here What is

16:39

your strategy if you're Joe Missoula are you

16:42

just taking out Kyrie and saying hey, okay

16:44

if Luca can score 60

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you know 20 and 15 a game and

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they end up winning so be it or

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how do you approach that and same thing?

16:53

With Jason Kidd, what do you think he's

16:55

coming into this series thinking? Like are we

16:57

gonna also kind of force-feed one guy or

16:59

are we gonna try and shut down anything

17:01

inside? Obviously the three-point shot is huge for

17:03

Boston So what do you see those two coaches

17:06

playing and right now as they get ready for

17:08

this series on Thursday? I

17:10

wouldn't be surprised But Zula started the series with a

17:12

lot of switching and I say that because the

17:14

more you switch the less there's weak side Help what that mean what

17:16

that mean? What do you mean? What do you mean more switching? So

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pick and roll switching so when you come off

17:22

a pick and roll Well Luca uses a pick

17:24

and roll that big is gonna switch on to

17:26

him It's not gonna be like where the guards

17:28

trailing him because all Luca did this past series

17:30

is pick the Timberwolves apart in the pick and

17:32

Roll he kind of he can't Luca would call

17:34

up the screen come off the pick and roll

17:36

Look at the weak side and either have the

17:38

lob or the quarter three or he had the

17:40

matchup He liked Boston has very capable defenders I

17:42

wouldn't be surprised that they switched a lot just

17:44

so they can eliminate weak side passes and weak

17:46

side defense If you live a Luca

17:48

making these shots for seven games I am

17:51

a thing it goes seven games or they let

17:53

this ride for a couple games But I think

17:55

the first quarter or two they're gonna check the

17:57

temperature you want to limit the Derek Lively's in

17:59

the the Gaffords and the PJ Washington's and the

18:01

Josh Greens and the Jalen Harley's like not all

18:04

these guys can eat. We know Kyrie and Luke

18:06

are going to eat. Let's try to pick apart.

18:08

Let's try to take away some of these other

18:10

guys. Let's limit our rotations.

18:12

Let's try switching and see if we can

18:14

make these guys play ISO basketball the entire

18:16

game and beat us off those two. It's

18:19

you know, that's I would imagine both sides are going

18:21

to try to do that because the Celtics are very

18:23

similar. They got a duo, but they got all these

18:26

other guys that get offense and you can't let everybody

18:28

eat. I would imagine there's gonna be

18:30

a lot of switching in one on one playing the

18:32

series early on. Okay, I like to hear that

18:34

and now I feel like I'm much smarter. So thank

18:36

you, Austin. People would have never said that you would

18:39

make anybody smarter like a few weeks ago. Yeah, exactly.

18:41

I think that's not maybe your friends and family,

18:43

friends and family. Sure. Are you guys fast tracking my

18:45

future to being a head coach or a president of

18:47

a team? Well, are you trying to be? Are

18:49

you trying to be? That is a

18:51

long term goal of mine. You see what JJ

18:53

is doing. I have a similar path in mind

18:55

of what I'm trying to do in terms of

18:57

me using the media and loving being a part

18:59

of the media and transferring into a coaching job

19:02

or a front office job like my like my

19:04

father. That's the goal. So that would

19:06

be if you get that I'm 30. Well,

19:08

and so I like I want to put in some time I got

19:10

to put in some work, you know, another four or five years of

19:12

really like building and networking and obviously getting on here. But a goal

19:14

of mine is I want to be back in the show. I want

19:16

to compete man. I want to be a head coach. We love that.

19:18

I want to run it. I want to

19:20

run a team. Hell yeah. Okay, I like to hear

19:23

that. But if you got a job over somebody else

19:25

because your dad had a job, what would that be?

19:27

That'd be nepotism. That's what that would be nepotism. I

19:29

don't want that. No, you would. We know you would

19:31

earn. Yeah, I've only been around the NBA since I

19:34

was six. You know,

19:36

knowing how to run a team possibly maybe

19:38

I don't know. We'll find out. I hope you go on

19:40

to do that because literally listening to talk. Yeah, I enjoy

19:42

the shit out of it. I think that's why people appreciate

19:45

you on the show is because whenever you

19:47

come on, what's very interesting. I mean, aside from

19:49

all your dumb shit, you know, what about

19:52

ball though, it is very you make do offices like

19:54

me kind of understand what the hell is going on,

19:56

which is obviously coaching traits, you know, that is so

19:59

it makes sense. So I'm excited to see you

20:01

pull that off and make that happen. It's

20:03

not a if or when it's a, yeah,

20:05

it's going to happen. Ty has last question

20:07

for you here, Austin. Austin, how much will

20:09

these next six days actually benefit, you know,

20:11

like Luca and all his nagging injuries? Obviously

20:13

it hasn't really affected him that much. He's

20:15

still going out there and lighten everything up,

20:18

but like you think he would rather now

20:20

if the adrenaline kind of wears off and

20:22

maybe like the knee and the ankle kind

20:24

of, he starts to feel that a little

20:26

bit. Do you think he'd rather have this

20:28

time to rest or with how well he's

20:30

been playing? Like, is he thinking,

20:32

Oh, shit, I wish we were going on

20:34

Monday and getting ready to play. Like, how

20:36

much can he actually heal in these next

20:38

six days? No, they need it.

20:40

They need to get some rest, man. Boston's

20:42

has been shown they're waiting. We all know Boston's

20:45

path this year has been very

20:48

not dynamic. So they ran through anybody

20:50

that they pretty much. Shut up, Boston.

20:53

Is it fun? Shut

20:55

up. They've been a very good Pacers team.

20:57

Very, very. They played a Pacers team without

20:59

their best player on the floor for most

21:02

of the. I agree. You

21:04

said it on me, brother. Yeah, that was. Yeah.

21:07

So that and again, that's not Boston's fault. I'm just

21:09

saying it's just what happened. They played a lot of

21:11

teams that are their best player. With that being said,

21:13

you know, you could argue they earned that number one

21:16

seed. So, you know, there's that regardless of which six

21:18

days can do a lot in

21:20

terms of treatment and just getting Lucas legs back up

21:22

under him and Kyrie because for them to beat this

21:24

team that they had ahead of them, they're

21:27

going to have to be special. Like they're going

21:29

to have to be dynamic. Like we've seen all playoffs

21:31

long and it's one thing to do it versus teams

21:33

they played. They have not played a team like Boston.

21:35

They're about to play the best team in basketball. These

21:39

six days will be very beneficial to Luca. We

21:41

know Boston's well rested. So this isn't going to

21:43

be a rough thing because Dallas has had less

21:45

time than them. So if this

21:47

is if anything, they need this time. They need this

21:49

time to heal up and get ready, obviously, because they're

21:51

starting on the road as well. So they're going to

21:53

have to leave a couple of days in Dallas as

21:55

his before they got to head up to Boston. All

21:57

right. We appreciate the hell out of

21:59

you. coach. We can't wait to chat with

22:01

you again hopefully very soon. What are you on

22:04

TV? Anytime. Next

22:06

week. But I'm available for you guys all the time

22:08

man. You send me the word and I'm pulling up. Hell

22:11

yeah. We appreciate that. And remember I think

22:13

that is why what all the people are

22:15

saying. Austin

22:17

River. He surprised me. I like

22:20

him. He's surprisingly cool and funny and charming.

22:22

Charming? Am I turning him? Am I turning

22:24

him slowly? Yeah. I think that's the entire

22:28

statement from this conversation with you is your

22:30

turn. I think people are Austin Rivers fans.

22:33

For sure. That's crazy. I've never thought I

22:35

would say that. Did you? No.

22:37

Definitely not. Never. Duke guy? Yeah. So un-likable. Dad's

22:39

in your game? Look at back of the compliment.

22:41

I know. But it's a compliment. I'll take it

22:43

in the left. No, no,

22:45

no. Ladies and gentlemen Austin Rivers. Yeah,

22:48

Austin. I do a

22:50

lot of the WWE boys. Yeah.

22:52

A lot of the guys in the back.

22:54

Man, Austin's cool. I didn't think. Coming out

22:56

of nowhere. No way, right? You. Then they

22:58

said you too. You guys. Like

23:01

the guys. The guys. They didn't think we would.

23:03

And I'm like, yeah. Like he's

23:05

awesome. I don't think I've

23:07

heard him talk much before this. I think everybody

23:09

just kind of assumed all that guy's gotta be

23:11

a douche or whatever. He was not. He's an

23:14

awesome. Great. The man. Hey Austin, thank you pal.

23:16

Thank you Austin. I do appreciate the

23:18

fact that he was like, yeah, I'm trying to become a coach around

23:20

a team though. Like that is a move that

23:22

a lot of people have done that have gotten into TV

23:24

and broadcasting because it's a public interview

23:26

pretty much. Yeah. Like, hey, here's my

23:28

brain. Here's how I would do things.

23:30

And then, you know, everybody's TVs are

23:33

on these things. So hiring does potentially

23:35

happen from the two. You look at

23:37

John Lynch. I mean, he reached out to

23:39

Kyle Shanahan to say that, but also Shanahan

23:41

was able to like learn a lot about

23:43

John Lynch quickly because he was on TV

23:45

talking about his beliefs in football and how

23:48

he does it. Let's go to a man

23:50

who used to run teams. Now he only

23:52

does TV and radio and podcasts and email

23:54

newsletter and

23:56

Ted talk and books. Ladies and gentlemen, Paisano,

23:59

Michael. Yeah,

24:02

how's everything lambo? We just talked everything's good

24:04

man, especially good because you're here with you

24:07

know The great desktop of all great stuff

24:09

behind you what a screen saver that's not

24:11

a screen saver. I think that's just a

24:13

back Just my man.

24:15

That's my hero right there. That's my guy.

24:17

He's not doing good He's sick, but hopefully

24:20

he'll get well go back to Europe and

24:22

then I'm gonna see him in Philly on the 23rd So

24:24

that's it. That's the guy right there. I

24:26

report full boss You

24:30

boss Well, he's like he's

24:32

not feeling that what's going on that news to me. I

24:34

didn't know there's something that he had a you know He

24:36

had a perforated ulcer back in

24:38

last year Which caused him to miss some

24:41

some concerts and then this year over in

24:43

Europe I think he was playing in a

24:45

concert in Dublin in the pouring rain and

24:48

Then he got some kind of sore virus in

24:50

his throat. So he had to cancel a couple

24:52

shows supposedly he's coming back I

24:54

think next week he's back in Colts neck now.

24:57

We're cut recovering. So hopefully he'll get back That

25:00

one hit what that one hit wonder that sold

25:02

his catalog for 600 million, you know that

25:04

one hit wonder You know who caught him

25:07

a one-hit wonder again? Who was it some

25:09

idiot on Twitter? You know those experts, you

25:11

know somebody on Twitter Hey,

25:13

you know look Austin Rivers. You gotta get

25:15

lucky long as he says what he thinks

25:17

so good a self-accoaching job They

25:19

can change a critic. He's gonna end up

25:21

maybe be coaching the Lakers you know if

25:24

you're honest on television what people want and

25:26

you're not placating to the Certain

25:29

element, you know your knowledge

25:31

comes out. I think it's awesome. He was

25:33

great to listen to How do you feel

25:35

about it in like the football world? Cuz

25:37

obviously we've seen it where you know Mike

25:39

Mayock goes from being the draft in combine

25:41

expert at NFL Network to general manager of

25:43

a team which seems like The

25:46

right, you know now granted Gruden who

25:48

was the coach of that team goes from

25:50

the Monday night football booth Back into

25:52

there not that he wouldn't have got a job if

25:54

he wasn't doing Monday football because the success he had

25:56

down in Tampa Bay, but I'm just saying you see

25:58

Lynch obviously goes from TV Why

26:01

do you think or do you

26:03

think that being on TV, it's

26:05

like a never ending interview pretty much with

26:07

all these teams, right? Like if a team needs a coach,

26:10

well you've heard this guy for 18 weeks, at

26:14

least three hours a week, talking

26:16

about situational football, talking about like,

26:18

there's angles. I think guys are trying to get jobs

26:20

potentially as they get on TV, but I think there's

26:22

also a chance that guys get on TV and people

26:24

are like, hey, you'd be good for this job. You

26:26

should think about it. Is that true with somebody that

26:28

ran a team and you think that's gonna continue to

26:30

happen at a rapid level that it's kind of starting

26:32

to? I think intelligence

26:34

is always gonna be the biggest sell of

26:37

anything. So when you smart talk smartly on

26:39

television and you educate the viewer, whether it's

26:41

in basketball, hockey, or football, or any sport,

26:44

college basketball, I think that the viewer craves

26:46

that. We're in the world of information and

26:48

they wanna learn more about the game. They

26:50

wanna understand the game, not from a superficial

26:53

level and certainly not from an X's and

26:55

O. We don't need clinics on TV, but

26:58

what we need to do is understand the strategy

27:00

that's involved around what's going on in the league,

27:03

off season and in season. And I think

27:05

that's what helps. And you know, like, look,

27:07

Hubie Brown's 90 years old. I don't miss

27:09

the Hubie Brown game that he does. I

27:11

don't care if he's doing some too bad

27:14

teams. Like I learned something every time Hubie

27:16

Brown talks on television. He's 90 years old

27:19

and he's into it. He knows the players. He

27:21

coaches both teams at the same time, which is

27:23

remarkable. And that's what we want as fans. So,

27:25

you know, I'm liking what the Sixers are doing

27:28

here. I don't like what the Nets are doing.

27:30

You know, he coaches it. And that's kind of

27:32

what we wanna learn about the game. We

27:34

are curious about how we can improve

27:36

our knowledge of the sport. So we sit in

27:39

some bar somewhere. We actually, actually sound smart. Yeah,

27:41

I love sounding smart. And I love whenever people

27:43

make me smarter whenever I listen to them. So

27:45

I'm echoing your sentiment as well as what we

27:47

all kind of wanna hear. Like

27:50

also, and I don't know who brought this point

27:52

up in the last couple of days, but somebody

27:54

did. It's like, I think it was Florio maybe.

27:57

Like, Bella check on our show

27:59

every Monday. this upcoming fall, and then

28:01

on the Manning cast, so like on our show,

28:04

fans that always have seen him as

28:06

this old, miserable bastard from all these

28:08

press conferences, they're gonna see like the

28:10

side of him as a

28:12

human, and then on the Manning cast, you're

28:14

literally gonna see him go, wow, this is

28:16

what they should, this is like, now you're

28:18

watching them break down football. So like every

28:20

fan base is gonna watch that, and if

28:22

their coach starts to do

28:25

anything, and there's a sense that

28:27

Belichick still wants to get back into football, he's

28:30

gonna be on TV all year, and fans are gonna

28:32

be like, why don't we hire, why didn't

28:34

we hire Bill Belichick? That's

28:36

another whole part of it as well. Like you

28:39

win, I don't wanna say win over fan bases,

28:41

but like you kinda do, so the owner can

28:43

hire you as well. So the fans want it,

28:46

obviously the information is there, and they're smart

28:48

at your job. It seems like a brilliant

28:51

interview, like Austin's doing it right, and him

28:53

having to play him, like, all right, I'll

28:55

do TV, and then I'm gonna get a

28:57

job. Like that's not a bad pipeline to

28:59

that potential gig if you're doing that. And

29:01

Belichick, I think is gonna benefit mightily next

29:03

year from this. And we're all gonna benefit

29:05

when he breaks down the Monday Night Game

29:07

on your show, because it'll be a peek

29:09

into the game that no one

29:11

else can give you. I've witnessed it

29:13

firsthand, and I have too many notes

29:15

in my OneNote computer about pregame,

29:18

and what he's been able to deliver, and how

29:20

he sees the game, and how it's gonna go, and

29:23

rarely is he ever wrong. I can't remember it.

29:25

And then when he's in the game, what

29:28

is going on in the game? You know,

29:30

there's always something happening in the game. It's

29:32

not about what plays are you running, but

29:34

what are you trying to accomplish? Everybody goes

29:37

play to play, but there's a broader picture

29:39

of every single game. The first quarter's about

29:41

figuring out, is this what we practiced? Is

29:43

this what we need to do? The

29:46

second and the third quarter are about the adjustments we

29:48

need to make, and then the fourth quarter becomes standalone.

29:50

Like, how do we win this game? And

29:53

I think we see it in basketball. Look, the Mavericks

29:55

won three games in the final minutes of the fourth

29:57

quarter, because they could figure out how to win the

29:59

game. game in the fourth and they

30:01

adjusted in the second and the third. So

30:03

you're going to get a great peek into

30:06

his brain and his ability

30:08

to invoke scheme into players. Remember

30:10

football is a game of players

30:12

and plays. And

30:14

so often we just talk players and not

30:16

how to fit. Like what's

30:18

the difference between Kyle Shanahan's offense

30:21

and Sean McVay's? Everybody says, well, they're

30:24

the same. Well, they're really not. They're

30:26

not at all. They're formationally is Kyle.

30:29

You know, what we've seen from Sean is

30:31

more gap scheme. We're trying to be physical

30:33

at the front, more overwrought. They're different, but

30:35

they come from the same, but they brought

30:37

off and you're going to hear Bill talk

30:39

about all those things. Yeah, that's what Tom

30:41

Brady said. Tom Brady said, uh, Peyton said

30:43

that Tom Brady told him that every single

30:45

week on a Monday during the announcement of

30:47

Belichick coming on the man and cast, he

30:49

said that Tom would come into his office

30:51

every Monday or whatever it was. And

30:53

Bill Belichick would break down not

30:56

only the defense that he's going to be playing

30:58

against defensive coordinator, what tree he comes

31:00

from, what the, like the rules of this particular

31:02

defense are from the founder of the defensive scheme

31:04

that they are going to be running. Whenever there's

31:07

a big moment, here's what the defensive coordinator wants

31:09

to call. If there's a panic, this is what

31:11

he's going to call in this exact moment. And

31:13

by the time Tom got out of that, what,

31:15

three hour, whatever it was, it was

31:18

like, okay, Tom literally just went through a

31:20

master's course of this potential defense,

31:22

which is why I'm excited to hear Tom

31:24

Brady on Fox. But listening to Bill do

31:26

that move forward will be awesome on TV.

31:29

Let's talk about what's happening right now around

31:31

the NFL, because these are moments, you know,

31:33

OTAs where I feel like the biggest thing

31:35

that happens is team camaraderie. I

31:37

think team camaraderie happens. I think, uh, you

31:39

build up friendships. I think the locker room

31:41

gets strengthened. Uh, I think obviously if

31:43

you have new schemes coming in, people can learn

31:45

that, but if it's same schemes, same

31:47

everything, it is just like a, Hey, how you

31:50

doing? Good to see you. We're about to spend

31:52

six months with each other here. As soon as

31:54

the season starts off for you with these OTAs,

31:56

there's people obviously that are making business decisions and

31:59

opting out. publicly so people

32:01

know that they're not at voluntary

32:03

workouts. The people that aren't there, how do we

32:05

feel about it? What should we be thinking about

32:08

whenever watching these OTAs and thinking about these OTAs?

32:10

And is there any stories that kind of we

32:12

should maybe pay attention to a little bit more?

32:16

Is based on the player, right? I mean,

32:18

Trent Williams isn't in San Francisco's OTAs, but

32:20

he works really hard and he shows up

32:22

ready to play and he knows the system.

32:25

So him not being there or Christian McCaffrey

32:27

not being there is really no big deal

32:29

because they're working doing their prep work on

32:31

their own. But if you take a guy

32:33

like Trent Brown at Cincinnati, who they signed,

32:35

you know, and they want him to be

32:37

the starting right tackle and he's had some

32:39

weight issues off the field, you're a little

32:41

bit nervous about him not being in your

32:44

program. So every situation is different. But what

32:46

I think most important for front offices and the

32:48

coaches is the young players need a lot of

32:50

reps. See, football is a game of mathematics. There's

32:52

only so many reps you have because of the

32:54

two and a half hour practice time or 245.

32:57

There's only so many

32:59

reps you get. There's only so many turns

33:01

you're going to be able to have. And

33:03

who controls those reps is critical. And

33:05

if you can get the young players caught

33:07

up on a fast track to where they

33:10

can help you in November and December, because

33:12

they've gotten all these reps, I think it

33:14

really benefits your team. The

33:16

bonding element is great, because what

33:18

the veterans need to do is show

33:20

the players and the young players how to be

33:23

professionals, right? You know, they have to

33:25

show them what it takes, how you prepare in

33:27

the classroom, how you prepare on the

33:29

field, how do you have a routine to

33:31

get ready for practice? Like, that's all really

33:33

important. And they need to learn that and

33:35

you can't always have the coach tell them

33:37

that because it blocked out. So that veteran

33:39

leadership needs to be present in there where

33:41

you're trying to teach some of these young

33:43

players how to behave like like professionals. And

33:45

it's most of sounds to like we're humans

33:47

to going to a new city, you know,

33:50

and obviously, your rookie class, you're going to

33:52

be friends alongside of and everything like that.

33:54

But whenever the vets are kind of like giving game

33:56

on, you know, life in the city, like Clint session,

33:58

and I used to go out. whenever

34:00

I was a rookie. And then I got

34:02

introduced like Joseph and then Peyton obviously introduced

34:04

me to things and took me places. It

34:06

was like, it was an

34:09

immediate welcoming to the city. And

34:11

then you hear stories about these places that do hazing

34:14

and in the NFL and shit like that. And

34:16

everybody's like, hey, we're gonna need the young

34:18

guys. Like it's better not to burn bridges

34:20

like these guys. If we wanna get paid

34:23

how we would like to get paid, then

34:25

you're gonna have to have rookies that do

34:28

well. Let's make them as comfortable as possible.

34:31

And hopefully they'll be able to benefit. I think that's

34:33

a big piece of OTAs. Last question about that for

34:35

me, to you and then the boys

34:37

have some. They're thinking about moving that up to the

34:39

ramp up period before training. Okay, you hate it. All

34:41

right, yeah. So why, yeah, okay. Here's why I hate

34:43

it, Pat. Here's why I hate it. Because A,

34:46

we're gonna go to 18 games. There's

34:48

no question we're gonna go to 18 games. That's gonna

34:51

get passed at some point. It's too much money in

34:53

the pot for the players and for the owners. So

34:55

that's gonna happen. And B, if

34:57

you don't have an off season and you're

35:00

out there practicing in the Thunderdome

35:02

and you rip your hamstring out,

35:04

okay, that becomes a

35:06

non-football related injury because you did

35:08

not do it in the facility. You

35:11

did it on your own. And so you

35:13

could lose a paycheck. You could lose your

35:16

year's salary. You know, we

35:18

saw the running back kinds do that last year. When

35:20

he got hurt, I think he was in a skiing

35:22

accident. He didn't get paid. You could just, it's subjected

35:24

to the team, right? It's

35:26

subjected to the team. If you have an

35:28

injury away from the facility, even if it's

35:30

a football activity, even if you're running sprints

35:32

or training in some strength room,

35:36

you get hurt, that's on you. And

35:38

so that huge void is out there and

35:40

it puts the players at such a liability

35:43

in terms of now I'm working out. But

35:45

if I pull my bicep or I rip

35:47

my bicep here, I'm screwed. Whereas if I

35:49

rip my bicep and I'm training in at

35:51

the Browns facility, you gotta pay me because

35:53

I'm doing your job. I think that needs

35:55

to get clarified. And then if we're going

35:57

to 18 games, why do we need that?

35:59

this long preseason. And the other factor

36:02

is we need the young players. I

36:04

think if the older guys, okay, but those

36:07

young players need to be in there to

36:09

practice and get going. I think that's the

36:11

most important factor of all this. And somebody

36:13

who's been involved with teams and has been

36:16

involved with preparing teams needs to be in

36:18

these meetings to tell the owners of the

36:20

management council. Here's the deal. This is the

36:22

players that are pitching this entire thing. It's

36:25

like, I haven't heard a single active player

36:27

come out and be like, I

36:29

haven't heard one either. I hate this. Why

36:31

would they want to do this? I don't,

36:33

I don't. And they're liable. You got to

36:35

understand the liability that you're under. If you

36:37

miss, if you get hurt in the off

36:39

season, if you're skiing and you get hurt,

36:42

you can lose your whole salary. And you can

36:44

say, well, that's not fair by the team. Well,

36:46

it's written in the collective bargaining agreement. Yeah. And

36:48

you just got to drag your ass to the

36:50

facility. Okay. And you got to

36:52

hurt yourself in there somewhere. Where'd

36:54

you break your leg at? Colorado. But I

36:57

need to break it in that building right

36:59

there. So I'm walking in and

37:01

I'm jumping to the top of our box

37:03

that we have in the weight room. And

37:05

I'm falling off that thing. And all of

37:07

a sudden that's what's going to take place.

37:09

That was really the thought, you know, that

37:11

was like the fear, like, hey, if you

37:13

get hurt anywhere, you need to figure out

37:15

how to not be hurt there and get

37:17

here because you can lose everything. Now I've

37:19

never seen anybody actually accomplish that, but that's

37:21

how much it is talked about to your point about

37:23

like, Hey, you can lose everything. Because for like the

37:26

first two weeks of what used

37:28

to be OTAs, but

37:30

now OTAs are at different time. Now it's off-season

37:32

conditioning program phase one. Now it is. The first

37:34

couple of weeks couldn't have a ball in the

37:36

field. Remember that was the big thing. The NFLPA

37:38

was like, well, we don't even want a ball

37:40

on field because coaches will abuse the right and

37:42

then players might get too jacked up. So you

37:44

can't even have a ball in the field. So

37:46

I as punter had to go to

37:48

local high school to kick, you know, and it's like,

37:50

how does, can we not make an exception for me

37:52

to be able to kick at the facility where I

37:54

have nets and people that will turn balls and not

37:56

a crowd of people that are going to be, you

37:59

know, like, is there any, There's a lot of stupidity

38:01

in all of this. And I'm not

38:03

saying the NFLPA is the engineer of all of

38:05

it, but they certainly haven't, you know,

38:08

missed an opportunity to do some dumb shit

38:10

seemingly in the past. Their job is to

38:12

protect the players. This doesn't protect the players.

38:14

Their job is to protect their clientele. This

38:17

doesn't protect them at all. Think about the freedom in an

38:19

off season. Two and a half months of off time. Long

38:21

time. Damn. I mean, that's, there are three and a half

38:23

months of off time and not that like they should be

38:25

adults. Your professional is just like, I'm a guy that got

38:28

in trouble during season. So like you couldn't even imagine could

38:30

have happened easily in the off season as well. It's like,

38:32

that's a lot of free time for people that have been

38:34

structured their entire life. Obviously being

38:36

adult, be mature, you're lucky to have the

38:38

job, but also let's look at the reality

38:41

of situations here. I don't know if

38:43

this is just, cause the NFL is just going

38:45

to use it as a way to get 18 games. And then like if

38:47

play, why don't we add some other shit in there? If

38:49

we're going to give up 18 games, 18

38:51

games does mean another check though. Nonetheless, let's talk

38:53

a little bit more about ball. Go ahead, comment.

38:56

Yeah, long ball. I see it seems like now

38:58

after the draft, the bills, you know, made the

39:00

right move, drafting Keon Coleman that he will be

39:02

good for them, but the situation with how they

39:04

got to the second round and trading that pick

39:07

to the chief so that the chiefs could get

39:09

their guy, how do you feel about that? And

39:11

do you think that this is something where Xavier

39:13

Worthy will have an 85 yard

39:15

touchdown against the bill in the divisional

39:18

round? And then they, everyone in Buffalo

39:20

will say, well, it's our fault for

39:22

giving them that guy. Yeah. Well,

39:25

they, you know, look, I worked for a man named

39:27

Al Davis who you were not allowed to trade any

39:29

player to the division or any player

39:32

to any game team on your schedule.

39:34

So that was eliminated. But in this

39:36

case to me, they had

39:38

an opportunity to take a deal from the

39:40

wingland. The wingland was in high speed pursuit

39:42

of worthy. They wanted worthy badly. They were

39:44

making calls to get that pick. And Buffalo

39:47

had them on the phone. And

39:49

so was Kansas City. And

39:51

I think if you're Brendan Bean, you have to sit

39:53

there and say, yeah, maybe Kansas City offered me a

39:55

lot more, but why would I

39:57

give worthy to them? Who's a weapon?

40:00

who could become the next Tyree Kill for them.

40:02

You know, I know he's undersized at 160 plays

40:05

bigger. He's a tough kid. But why

40:07

am I doing anything to help the Chiefs?

40:09

Especially since I lost to him with 13

40:11

seconds, I missed a 44 yard field goal

40:13

to send the game in overtime. Like I

40:15

haven't been able to get through that door

40:17

to get to where I need to go

40:19

to. So like, I don't understand that. Like

40:21

I would have been more than happy to

40:23

give them to the Patriots who's working on

40:25

a new regime, who's got a new quarterback.

40:27

And in three years, if Worthy's a great

40:29

player, that's great. Maybe they're ready to go.

40:32

But I'm worried about today. And helping the Chiefs out

40:34

would be the last thing I would want to do.

40:36

That's a strange one. And that's going to

40:38

come back and bite him in the ass.

40:40

If Worthy is as good as we might

40:43

think he could be. And Reid does a

40:45

great job of coaching these young guys. Look,

40:47

that receiver room hasn't really improved from last

40:49

year. If Worthy takes a step up, it

40:51

has. We don't know what's going to happen

40:53

to Rice. Cadairie's Tony is a wild card.

40:55

And that really comes down to Hollywood, right?

40:58

It comes down to Hollywood Brown. Okay, so Cadairie's

41:00

Tony, what an interesting. Yeah.

41:03

Just what an interesting period. What

41:06

an interesting period. Still

41:08

there though, they still got his back. Even though

41:11

there was a lot of weird shit that happened towards

41:13

the end of the year, where he seemingly came out

41:15

and talked shit about the Chiefs. And then Chiefs were

41:17

like, come on, dude. Everybody's seeing the same exact thing.

41:19

That's actually the conversation about our team is

41:21

pretty much this entire situation. They bring in Hollywood

41:23

Brown, which we assume is going to

41:25

be a phenomenal tag team. Travis Kelsey is

41:27

their one. If this Worthy guy can go

41:30

and Rishi Rice could stay out of jail,

41:32

which we hope he'll be able to

41:34

do. He needs to get back to Kansas City. Let's

41:36

go. Just get our ass back to Kansas

41:38

City in this entire thing. It's like they're

41:40

better than they've ever been. And it feels like if

41:42

you talk about the end of the AFC, the bills are going

41:44

to be there and the Chiefs are going to be there. So

41:47

do you know that the Patriots, how do

41:49

we know that that happened? Is that already? That's fact.

41:52

That's fact. I don't know if it's been reported or not.

41:54

I'm just telling you that's fact. That's not bad. That's

41:57

not bad. The

42:00

trade that sent the pick from what was it 20? 28?

42:02

26? 28? Yeah 28. New

42:07

England made a substantial offer to him and

42:09

they took the Chiefs offer now I

42:12

don't know if the Chiefs offer was substantially more

42:14

than the Patriots I would just see look if

42:16

it's the chart I mean at some point you

42:19

have to get away from the chart and do

42:21

what's in the best interest of your team Right,

42:24

you got to get away from the chart, but

42:26

now this is fact I'm not making this up

42:28

with the picture the Patriots wanted worthy. That's a

42:30

fact. Okay, and they tried to get them Okay,

42:33

so let's talk about the Patriots then. How do

42:36

you feel this just came out yesterday? I think

42:38

and I I've

42:40

been openly against this a few times because I saw it

42:42

in the Colts building Where new regime

42:45

comes in and they actually like painted

42:47

over the walls that had

42:49

like? Unites and Peyton and

42:51

free and Mathis and bracket Saturday

42:54

and Diem and a die and

42:57

I mean just like literally

43:00

everybody that built the stadium in

43:02

Indianapolis and the building that they're

43:04

practicing in and the Colts

43:06

fan base in Indianapolis like just painted them

43:08

over took photos down We got new photos

43:10

up and it was like we wanted people

43:12

to know that this is no longer This

43:15

is a new goal and we got to

43:17

bring the Colts whatever. It's like we have one

43:19

losing season paint another broken necklace You

43:22

know everything else seems you forgot Seattle would

43:24

happen right and they they're coming out and

43:26

obviously the players are cool with it So

43:28

however motivates the team Sweet when

43:30

I was in India, I hated it now. It's come

43:33

out that the New England has done something So I

43:35

don't know what the extent is But they've taken some

43:37

Super Bowl memorabilia down into coach Mayo said he wanted

43:39

to let the boys know like it's a new team

43:41

This is our team now. It's like

43:44

I I don't think I don't know. I don't know what

43:46

New England did I don't think we've gotten photos from the

43:48

before and after and how big it is How do you

43:50

feel about that hole that's like their mission?

43:52

That's like the way to motivate is like this

43:54

isn't about what happened here before it's about what

43:56

happens right now Which I get but also shouldn't

43:59

you like like? standard here is this.

44:01

I don't know. Well,

44:05

this isn't the first time it's happened. When

44:07

Bill Walsh walked into the 49ers facility at

44:09

711 Nevada Street in Redwood City, he

44:11

took over for Joe Thomas, who took all

44:13

that stuff down and basically got rid of

44:16

all the great 49ers history. And Walsh put

44:18

it back up. And Walsh put

44:20

it back up and he wanted to bring

44:22

in the, he needed the alumni to come

44:24

in the building. He needed the players that

44:26

are wearing that uniform to understand what it

44:28

meant to be a 49er, that it has

44:30

been successful, that there is a heritage here.

44:32

There's a sense of belonging. And the only

44:34

way you can create a sense of belonging

44:36

is reaching out to your past. It's why

44:38

we have holidays. It's why we have Memorial

44:40

Day. We honor those who have given their

44:42

lives up for our freedom. It's why we

44:45

have Veterans Day. So we honor the veterans

44:47

who have served in our country. It's a

44:49

way of creating a sense of belonging. And

44:51

you can't lose sight of that. You know,

44:53

Walsh used to say all the time, Marines

44:56

fight for Marines because he

44:58

believed that that

45:01

was a sense of creating. And, and

45:04

when you just do that, when you absolve

45:06

it, then it's disrespectful. Look, the Minnesota Vikings

45:09

have kept Bud Grant's office intact. Now, most

45:11

of those players have no idea who the

45:13

hell Bud Grant is other than he wore

45:15

short sleeves in a cold weather day. You

45:17

know, even though they went to four suit

45:19

goals, they didn't win any, but Bud Grant,

45:21

they kept his office like he's part of

45:23

their heritage. And I think to me, when

45:26

you do that, it becomes egotistical. It becomes

45:28

something bigger than the program. And I think

45:30

that becomes a real issue. It's because I

45:32

mean, obviously, the Vikings, I don't know how

45:34

many Super Bowls, I'm not saying it's full,

45:36

it's worked or whatever. Go ahead. That's what

45:38

I mean. Like Seattle and India, like absolutely

45:41

taking that stuff down things so they won

45:43

one Super Bowl, like with the Patriots, you

45:45

know who the New England Patriots are. It

45:47

was the last 20 years. They won six

45:49

Super Bowls. We don't know what they did.

45:51

We don't know what all they did. Allegedly,

45:53

they took down like to do your job

45:55

shit. They took down some photos, like things

45:57

of that nature that, you know, might have.

46:00

alluded to the past, but like, you know,

46:02

New England, it's not like this history is

46:05

far, far away. Like, I think everyone who

46:07

sees this logo knows like, oh yeah, Bill

46:10

Belichick, Tom Brady, six Super Bowls. Like, is

46:12

it a little different because of that? And

46:14

also because the player that is now the

46:16

head coach was a part of the dynasty?

46:18

I don't, I, and is it, they're saying

46:20

it's Coach Mayo's decision to do this? I

46:23

mean, everything seems to be, hey, you know,

46:25

we're going to trust Coach Mayo to do

46:27

whatever the hell he wants to do, go

46:29

ahead. Because if it was

46:31

a craft move, that'd be a whole whole. If

46:33

it was Jonathan Kraft, yeah, I'd probably push that.

46:35

I always take it. Stay it down, stay it

46:37

down. If it was, if it was JK, that'd

46:39

be a problem. Yeah. So it's just, it's honestly,

46:41

however, who knows how it motivates a

46:44

team? True. However a team comes out

46:46

is however it comes out. Our team, literally, Andrew Lux

46:48

rookie year ago, the AFC championship game, and then balls

46:50

are flat, we lose. Well. You

46:52

know, in that. Yeah. So

46:55

it worked, you know, so it's just like, for

46:57

me personally. Those balls really were flat. All right.

47:00

We got our boy, I did three touchdowns, 180 yards.

47:03

Yeah. Well, I couldn't fumble

47:05

because he was squeezing. They were really

47:07

flat there. That was the problem. For

47:10

those that don't internew the show, I

47:12

am not on the side. Jokes. Yeah.

47:16

This is not real. This is already, that was

47:18

the worst thing to happen to our particular team.

47:20

Now, granted I am bottom of totem pole, which

47:22

I think is actually the most powerful spot of

47:25

an actual totem pole, but I'm just talking

47:27

for the metaphor at the bottom of the

47:29

totem pole. The least important

47:31

human being on the Indianapolis Colts, more specifically

47:33

any of those teams. But I think I

47:36

could speak for our locker room that that

47:38

deflate gate shit was the worst and how

47:40

long it went for was fucking miserable.

47:42

Oh my God. For an hour, a year and

47:45

a half later, we're being reminded, you guys lost

47:47

my identity. You guys lost, you couldn't hold my

47:49

enemy. They did more investigation on that than the

47:51

Warren Commission. I mean, Christ almighty, they had more

47:53

people coming in to interview and do all this.

47:55

It was unbelievable. And then we finally, and then

47:58

Peter King admitted it was all fake. It's

48:00

all fake. It's all fake. We

48:02

can't get that out of the Warren Commission, but eventually

48:05

maybe we'll get that too. I

48:07

mean, it's ridiculous. I can

48:09

remember Bill was spending all his time

48:11

talking about the ball. We're

48:14

getting ready to play Seattle. The

48:16

hardest game in here is going to be sports. That's

48:18

Tom. That's Tom. I'm done

48:20

with it. I am completely unbelievable. It

48:23

is, let alone if it happened or

48:25

if it didn't happen, it's like, you

48:28

ask, I think what we all learned from like every quarterback

48:30

was like, oh yeah, I like mine a little bit under

48:32

with a little bit more mud on the ball. Yeah. Aaron

48:35

came out and he's like, I like mine over. Over, like, I like it max. Which

48:37

would be harder. I like it at max. So

48:40

we learned like, oh, there's a bunch of, this seems like

48:42

this is a little bit of bullshit. Yeah.

48:45

And Tom hasn't forgot. No, no, he certainly hasn't. He's

48:47

good. He's from Red and Super Bowl. Tom has a

48:49

question for you, Lumbo, as we wrap up. Yeah,

48:51

Lumbo. And I asked this with all due

48:53

respect to all the names I'm about to

48:55

mention, because they're great quarterbacks. Jared Goff just

48:58

got paid $50 million. Trevor

49:00

Lawrence is rumored to get paid $50 million.

49:03

Another quarterback in that conversation is two and I assume

49:05

he's also going to get paid $50

49:07

million. How do you feel about those

49:09

contracts? And then like just the, how

49:13

are we ever going to get to a time where

49:15

like those guys aren't in the top

49:17

five quarterbacks in the NFL? Is there going to

49:19

be a time where quarterbacks, the next quarterback contract

49:21

isn't always going to be the biggest quarterback contract

49:24

of all time? No, because

49:26

I think, you know, look, if you're too adjusted,

49:28

Herbert got paid $52.5 million. So

49:30

I'm sure at least I work saying, well, my

49:32

guy's been to the playoff, you know, Herbert's lost

49:35

a playoff game. You know, my guy's been there.

49:37

He's won. He's got these numbers.

49:39

He should make this. Look, I, one

49:42

of the beautiful things about a salary cap

49:44

and about players at positions making money is

49:46

water seeks its level. Everybody rises to the

49:48

next one. And, and they know

49:50

teams don't have the guts to be able to

49:53

say, you know, look, I'm not going to do

49:55

this. We're going to draft a

49:57

young guy and then we're going to transition over to

49:59

somebody. else you know I don't think that they

50:01

they're gonna call that bluff because there's it's supply

50:04

and demand there's just not a lot of them

50:06

I think the question you're asking are they worth it

50:09

and the answer is no but the market says

50:11

they're worth it you know the market dictates which

50:14

you have to pay you know do I would

50:16

I pay to a 53 million

50:19

no because I have you know Terry kill takes up

50:21

12% of the cap waddle takes up

50:23

an 8% of the cap now that's 20% of

50:25

the cap if I go and pay

50:28

to a you know 30 by 30% of

50:30

the cap what do I have left for the rest of my team

50:32

but I'm down this road I'm

50:35

I've already gone down the road 80%

50:37

of my offense comes to these two receivers

50:40

and they're explosive and they're great and he

50:42

can make it good so you

50:44

know I think you're trapped a little bit here

50:46

but it you can't get caught up in the number

50:48

you got to get caught up in this is the

50:50

system that we're in and you've

50:52

got to be proactive and draft a

50:55

quarterback every year and develop a quarterback

50:57

every year because if you can get

50:59

one at a cheaper number that's going

51:01

to help you out it's a little

51:03

bit like what happened in Minnesota they

51:05

trading cousins now they got McCarthy now

51:07

the question is do they pay Justin

51:09

Jefferson right now all right

51:11

that's the fair question if somebody

51:13

off but if they could have gotten neighbors

51:15

for Jefferson they probably would have traded them

51:17

but to trade them for draft picks that you don't know

51:19

what you're getting back how do you trade them right

51:22

everybody says we'll trade a player for two

51:25

number ones well I don't know

51:27

what I'm getting with those two ones whereas if

51:29

I traded him for neighbors who was a legitimate

51:31

could be a cheap number one receiver for four

51:33

years okay now I could do

51:35

that so that becomes another issue okay so Justin

51:37

Jefferson everybody's assuming he is gonna get paid because

51:39

of the decision to move on from Kirk cousin

51:41

bring in Sam and then also draft a young

51:44

player don't have to spend as much money at

51:46

the trigger position we can pay a wide receiver

51:48

that seemingly how the market is shaping out we

51:50

go back to Miami if is to have one

51:52

year how much is this is last year of

51:54

his time more year it he's got

51:57

23 million on the cap at one year that takes

51:59

up 12 of the cap right

52:01

now. When they do that deal, he'll still,

52:03

he probably, right now, Waddle takes up 7.8%

52:07

of the cap. Tyreke takes up 12%. Now

52:10

Tyreke, you know, he's still the second

52:12

highest paid receiver in the league. AJ

52:14

Brown slightly went above him. So, but

52:16

I mean, they got to

52:18

keep Hill really healthy. He's the engine

52:20

that drives the machine. But now

52:23

you're, the reason you don't sign Christian Wilkins is

52:25

because you're giving the money to these other guys.

52:27

You're going to have to figure it out. It's

52:29

Chris Greer. He's got it left really well.

52:31

Wilkins to the Raiders. Nobody even talks about

52:34

how that's a whole different him and Crosby

52:36

next to each other. But he plays every

52:38

snap of every game. There you go. Gump,

52:41

there you go. He plays every snap. He

52:43

can pressure the pocket. He can push inside.

52:45

He's going to make Crosby more effective if

52:47

that's even possible. Like, and they just let

52:49

him walk like it was no big deal

52:52

because they're, they, it's a seven on seven

52:54

game for them. Now they haven't beaten a

52:56

good team. We know this, right? They have

52:58

not beaten a good team. Gump can verify

53:00

that. You know, they go into Philly last

53:02

year and Philly played, Philly played

53:04

defense against them. And we know Philly wasn't

53:06

good on defense. So, it'll

53:09

be interesting how this all works out. So two will be

53:11

a free agent after this year. Dak could be a free

53:13

agent after this year. They've both get paid somewhere. Kirk Cousins

53:15

just got 130 million guaranteed or

53:17

whatever. That market continues to go. If you're a

53:19

team though, that has a guy, boy,

53:22

feels like you need to keep the guy because

53:24

you have no idea what door two potentially has

53:26

on the other side. Last question here from Ty

53:29

Schmidt, Lombo. Yeah. Lombo has just announced that the

53:31

bears are going to be on hard knocks this

53:33

year. And obviously, like, you know, you

53:35

don't really have a choice. It's kind of the NFL tells

53:37

you you're going to be on hard knocks. You're going to

53:39

be on hard knocks. But as a

53:41

GM, especially going into their situation where you draft

53:44

the quarterback number one, they ended last season very

53:46

well and they have a lot of momentum going

53:48

into next year with a lot of people saying,

53:50

Hey, this might be a playoff team. Like, is

53:53

there anything to gain if

53:55

you're the GM of the bears from having hard

53:57

knocks in your building or is this kind of

53:59

all. Setting up to just be

54:01

a massive massive disappointment. That's a packers

54:03

owner asking the question maybe Yeah,

54:06

well, I think you have to be really careful

54:08

I mean one thing it could do it can

54:10

really bring your it can enlighten your fan base

54:12

to know that you're on top of Things and

54:15

and you're really good at what you do But

54:17

it can also enlighten your fan base to say

54:19

you're not really you're in decisive and you don't

54:21

know what to do Remember the Cleveland Brown one

54:23

remember that one. I mean that one that one

54:26

was disruptive to the old entire organization So a

54:28

lot of this is you're gonna have to

54:30

do a really good job of prepping Preparing

54:33

and letting people know this narrative

54:35

that you want to get out of your building

54:37

That's really important And I think Ryan

54:39

polls has got to do that and Matt Yberflux has

54:41

got to do that too because when he stands in

54:44

Front of the team, he's not standing in front of

54:46

the team. He's standing in front of America now He's

54:49

standing in front of America and he's got

54:51

to sell America on that, right? He's got

54:53

to sell that and so does polls so

54:55

that adds another dimension to it all It's

54:58

a distraction no doubt, but you're gonna have to

55:00

work around it The one that's gonna be fascinating

55:02

is the hard knocks offseason with the Giants I

55:05

can't wait for that, you know when they said

55:07

they were trying to trade up to get off

55:09

But they stopped once they went off the board.

55:11

So we're gonna we may we'll solve that puzzle

55:13

Okay, sounds like you have some questions about some

55:15

insider information from draft night excited to find out

55:18

Debo is back calling plays allegedly. Oh, yeah Now

55:20

will he be doing that during the regular season

55:22

who knows but we'll find out throwing off season

55:24

hard knocks And then the training camp hard knocks

55:26

of the Chicago Bears Caleb Williams and we if

55:28

we know anything about a Yberflux He's gonna look

55:30

really cool. Oh, yeah players love them here

55:33

in Indianapolis. I think in Chicago similar thing What's

55:35

Caleb Williams gonna be like? How about Roma doons?

55:39

And how is the second highest rated player on

55:41

their board? Which I had heard he

55:43

was a higher rated receiver than Harrison on their board,

55:45

which I had heard earlier in the offseason Yeah, there

55:47

were some people that said that that would case instead

55:49

Arizona ends up with Marvin Harrison jr. Roma doons a

55:51

Caleb Williams the young rookie class in Chicago are gonna

55:53

be on display on hard Naughts, we appreciate the hell

55:55

out of you. We wish you were on high guys

56:00

Llambo's got a show in like four minutes, so I appreciate

56:02

the hell out of him, Dan. What a good man. The

56:05

best. Llambo just has something for everything, doesn't he? I mean, not

56:07

worthy in New England. I didn't know that

56:09

was real. Yeah, did we? As you were

56:11

saying it, I'm like, okay, got a lot of questions about

56:13

this, but also, I had no idea that happened. Oh yeah,

56:15

it's the matter, this ain't false journaling. It

56:18

hasn't been reported, but it's 1,000% true. Well,

56:20

he does that on our show, though. That is

56:23

like the Lombardi move. It might've been reported on

56:25

something he did, whether it was a podcast, another

56:28

show, or something else. Yeah,

56:30

I said this Monday, last Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

56:32

I said this, yeah, everybody knows. And

56:34

we had never heard it. And then all of a sudden, go. Yep,

56:37

Rams looking to trade staff for last offseason. Yeah, he

56:39

said, they're not gonna say it, obviously, but it definitely

56:42

happened. Look at the contract, all you gotta do is

56:44

follow the money. They would

56:46

be in contempt of running

56:48

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58:00

Four are amazing. We're not going to talk about him every

58:02

single day. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to

58:04

do this For a living it is truly absurd the talks

58:06

that it was here at Boston corner and that's how I

58:08

Schmidt I see that Yeah, you know had to do it

58:10

you get the hundo boys on the show, you know, you

58:13

gotta you gotta show him a little love Yeah, and I

58:15

was gonna wait until he came on, but I should just

58:17

go ahead My dad

58:19

well get the skis tarp up there.

58:21

Yeah, and this is from the Indianapolis

58:23

baseball team the Indian man,

58:25

yep Which is triple-a for

58:27

the Pittsburgh Pirates, which is where

58:29

Paul skeins pitch for five games

58:31

six games seven games And

58:36

he struck out everybody pretty much and now he goes

58:38

up to the majors and he's like the greatest Picture

58:41

to ever start in the MLB in history something

58:43

like that I forget the exact wording of it,

58:45

but he's breaking all these records and he throws

58:48

the ball over a hundred miles an hour on

58:50

a regular basis and There's

58:52

another guy that on the same exact roster

58:54

that's thrown over a hundred miles an

58:56

hour on a very regular basis and Jared Jones We

58:58

got two aces joining us in about eight minutes tie

59:00

a lot of baseball on this program Yeah, well, I

59:02

mean like you mentioned at the top of the show.

59:05

I mean in about Four

59:07

days time here five days time. That's

59:09

all there is Some days some

59:12

days cuz only finals well, then we do get

59:14

the finals But then again, that's that's basically what

59:16

a week ten days of that and then

59:19

once that once that's done Guess

59:21

what? No, no, don't you you

59:23

don't like baseball don't you better

59:25

start liking don't you? Obviously

59:29

we got the W as well Caitlin

59:31

Clark starting to figure it out these refs the

59:34

way they're a ref and Caitlin Clark I don't

59:36

like it one bit. I mean it seemingly they

59:38

got like an extra grind saying welcome to our

59:40

league Yeah, you think you're gonna be able to

59:42

do all that bitchin and whining and moaning that

59:45

you did in college not here You better not

59:47

even look at a sideways or to you up

59:49

there. How about her Veronica Vivian's last night?

59:51

Yeah, she hit hit one in her

59:53

eye. Yeah, and then told her what

59:55

what what Caitlin's starting to hey She's

59:57

competing just like we just like like

1:00:00

we thought it would. Exactly. Over the last couple

1:00:02

of days, feels like the team started around with

1:00:04

her too. Connor, you were there last night. Obviously

1:00:06

another L for the Indiana Fever. Need to start

1:00:08

second, some more dubs, only one win in about

1:00:10

10 of 10s. Got Chicago

1:00:12

Sky on Saturday at noon. Angel

1:00:14

Rees, Kaitlin Clark, obviously two new

1:00:17

teams, but still great rivalry. Connor,

1:00:19

you were there on the floor, on the wood last night.

1:00:21

Is this fever team gonna be good by the end of

1:00:23

the year? What do you think? By the end of the

1:00:26

year, yes, for sure. They're starting to figure it out. I

1:00:28

have some rotation ideas. For

1:00:30

Coach Sides, who you are a fan of. Who

1:00:32

I am a fan of. She got teed up

1:00:35

last night because she's pissed about what's going on

1:00:37

with Kaitlin Clark with these rashes. She's done with

1:00:39

it, because it is real. There is something going

1:00:41

on, and there's something to be said with how

1:00:43

the games are being called, especially around Kaitlin. But

1:00:45

no, I think they're gonna figure it out. Nellissa

1:00:47

Smith got the start last night, and

1:00:49

she is fantastic. She can run and gun,

1:00:51

she can score. I think she had the

1:00:53

first seven points for the fever last night.

1:00:55

Need to get her some more minutes. Samuelson,

1:00:57

she hit like three straight threes, and it

1:01:00

was one of those situations like, okay, well

1:01:02

why aren't we getting 33 more shots if

1:01:05

this is what's going on every single time she touches

1:01:07

the ball? But they're gonna figure it out. They'll be

1:01:09

okay. They were saying Kelsey Mitchell, number zero, didn't have

1:01:11

a training camp because of an injury, so basically was

1:01:13

working herself in the shape. Last night she threw up

1:01:15

a couple. Massive threes for him, a number

1:01:18

two overall pick. Look out for the

1:01:20

fever as they cook, but I'll tell you what,

1:01:22

Breanna Stewart, she's starting to earn damn leads. They're gonna

1:01:24

pay more money than any of my time. A couple

1:01:26

years away from that, couple years away from the

1:01:28

Liberty Stat. Well then the Aces, hey, they got

1:01:30

some dogs on that team. They

1:01:32

got dogs on that team. Yes, they do.

1:01:37

They got dogs on that team. Yes,

1:01:39

they do. The junkyard. Every single day

1:01:41

we were, I mean, just beasts over

1:01:43

there. Obviously back-to-back champions. I mean,

1:01:45

that's how it's gonna go. I mean, some

1:01:48

of them are inspiring music. But the fever,

1:01:50

the fever is... What music

1:01:52

video do you wanna talk about? One half of the hammer, dah!

1:01:55

Cowboys, 10, Diggs is here. Houdini.

1:01:58

I couldn't not say. I don't

1:02:00

know You

1:02:02

guys aren't talking about that music video anyways joining

1:02:04

us now That's

1:02:07

what happened a hammer down Cowboys big

1:02:09

Dallas Stars fan bubble company that back.

1:02:11

Oh, yeah Is

1:02:13

he playing football? I don't know after watching that

1:02:15

video. I don't think so We

1:02:19

would like to let you know all love dude, come on

1:02:21

come on Beach best days

1:02:23

ahead that video was thought I was crazy.

1:02:25

I was bummed out why no three time

1:02:27

not sun-tended No space boy,

1:02:29

I guess people do to try to turn

1:02:32

their cheeks. Yeah Hey

1:02:36

D come on man. Love you D wall. Come

1:02:38

on. Come on. Come on. Oh that video Yeah,

1:02:42

yep Anyway, that's cough that

1:02:44

was tough to watch. I felt terribly keep it

1:02:46

moving bro Come on, but I could see why

1:02:48

he's potentially not known if he's playing football or

1:02:50

not. That's where he's going Yeah, bingo. He's got

1:02:53

a that stuff. That's very public to which is

1:02:55

what happens Can't be fun.

1:02:57

But without being said, what's making stations seem

1:02:59

to be locked in? Oh, yeah motivated by

1:03:01

the entire situation Asia's ball.

1:03:03

Yeah, absolutely and Kate

1:03:06

Kate money Martin. Yeah is balling

1:03:08

and then obviously Miss

1:03:11

plume founder of King maker

1:03:13

cigars. She has a

1:03:15

ball in right? I mean they're doing of the

1:03:17

but the fever come yes They are the time

1:03:19

the time is now if you're not the fever

1:03:22

because I'm an em, so Deanie video though Another

1:03:24

music video that you were not talking about out.

1:03:26

Yep. He's back. Yeah, he's literally hopped out of

1:03:28

a portal and came back and Yeah,

1:03:31

yeah, he sampled his own music and then

1:03:37

And made a song Marshalls back

1:03:39

save exam and it is it is great news. I

1:03:41

think he's got another album coming It's gonna be his

1:03:43

last one because he said it's his last trick or

1:03:45

yep I know tricker join us now as a man

1:03:47

who we think he's gonna be a rapper someday. We

1:03:49

can't wait for them College football

1:03:51

national champion Super Bowl champion Ryder Cup

1:03:53

winner president of Ohio AJ Hall. Yeah

1:03:58

Yeah, I never say never but Probably never on

1:04:00

the old rap career. I would imagine I think I think the

1:04:02

show's gonna be putting out a song actually It's false. So you're

1:04:05

gonna have words on it. So you will have a credit rap

1:04:07

song. Nice. Okay, I'm in Let me

1:04:09

know just tell me where to go to record and

1:04:11

we will record it'll be an uplifting song it'll

1:04:14

be an upbeat song and music video and

1:04:17

Will make sure that's on the beat. I was

1:04:20

so bummed out watching that for him I know

1:04:22

I couldn't stop watching it brother. There's nothing a medic

1:04:24

I know he's an artist and everything but it's like

1:04:27

even if that is your art in that moment like

1:04:29

you're in a That's not a pretty

1:04:31

vulnerable spot. She'll go Friday. Do you know

1:04:33

I know Good

1:04:36

thing in though. It was a good thing. I didn't like

1:04:38

Timberlake. We know like Timberlake and Brittany Didn't they have a

1:04:40

video like that back in the day? Oh, yeah There's

1:04:44

a fake there's a fake Brittany in it I

1:04:46

guess so and I heard that was a big

1:04:48

oh, yeah Yeah, they caught some issues right now

1:04:50

that we know there's a book saying yeah Yeah

1:04:56

Emon in then what's up? No, no who's

1:04:59

Emon? Because

1:05:10

none of it's gonna get through but you

1:05:13

know the Emon yeah I

1:05:15

don't know why is it what is E?

1:05:17

I don't mean that's a guy's the art

1:05:19

is his name banger He's thinking the part

1:05:22

you just sang the JT part. He was

1:05:24

thinking that damn I know JT was doing

1:05:26

that way before yeah, what are we even

1:05:28

time so flustered? I'm confused. Yeah Or he's

1:05:30

on video reminded me of Emon. Okay,

1:05:32

well What the

1:05:35

fuck is Emon? What is this? Huh,

1:05:39

you know what it is My

1:05:41

brain right you guys in my head that

1:05:43

bullets going through my brain. You're young This

1:05:47

is in our hey there. You know just try to

1:05:49

sing a song he did and you know, it's the

1:05:51

correct lyrics but Play it over

1:05:53

there close joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen

1:05:55

as we move Eminem

1:05:58

Houdini Yeah,

1:06:00

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:06:02

Darren Waller, new music video, hard

1:06:04

is broken. Yeah. Bummed out. Bummed out.

1:06:08

And we would like to let him know, Darren, come

1:06:10

on, man, things are gonna be okay. Next

1:06:13

chapter is gonna be a great chapter one after that. You're

1:06:15

gonna look back, it's all gonna make sense. Time goes on.

1:06:17

That's right, and if it's just your heart or whatever, we

1:06:20

hope you maybe get back on the football field. You're

1:06:22

an artist out in the field as well. Amen. So is this

1:06:24

all part of hard knocks thing, because he's a member of

1:06:26

the Giants? Oh boy. It's

1:06:29

the crop season. Bruce,

1:06:31

Bruce, big leader, Giants man, you think this is

1:06:33

gonna be a part of the hard knocks? I

1:06:35

know you're pumped to see what the Giants should

1:06:37

be. I mean, imagine if they had like a

1:06:39

documentary crew there as he was filming that heartbreaking

1:06:41

scene on the beach with him getting stabbed in

1:06:44

the back. Is he playing this year or not?

1:06:46

I don't know. All I know is that he's

1:06:48

got the song of the summer. That song's a

1:06:50

hit. Houdini.

1:06:53

Thank you, Bruce. Thank you, Bruce. All right, joining

1:06:55

us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the

1:06:58

boys in the summer. Yeah, hell yeah. You

1:07:00

know, the hundo boys of

1:07:02

the summer. In a

1:07:04

city in which I grew up, a lot

1:07:06

of people couldn't care less about baseball. Now

1:07:09

there are certainly baseball fans because the history

1:07:11

in Pittsburgh is obviously a deep one with

1:07:13

the Pirates, but a lot of people had

1:07:15

kinda lost the faith in the organization that

1:07:17

it would ever be worth the fuck again.

1:07:20

So why are we gonna watch this sport

1:07:22

that is boring, that we suck at, other

1:07:24

than a nice night to PNC Park and

1:07:26

hopefully some Zambelli fireworks afterwards? Hell yeah.

1:07:29

Something changed. Some stars

1:07:31

came to town. And

1:07:33

not only are balls flying out of

1:07:36

the park and the boats are towing

1:07:38

up behind on the river that has

1:07:40

dead bodies floating in it, there are

1:07:42

pitchers now that are electrifying. So much

1:07:45

so that the pitching ninja calls them

1:07:47

the Allegheny, which is the county in

1:07:49

which Pittsburgh is in, Electric Company. Ladies

1:07:51

and gentlemen, the hundo boys from the

1:07:54

Pittsburgh Pirates, those rookies Jared Jones, Paul

1:07:56

Skeene. Hey! Oh! Chris

1:08:00

Collins was respect, respect. That was a good slide in

1:08:02

Jared. That was a good slide in. We're

1:08:05

playing that. Yeah, that was all him. Okay,

1:08:07

so you're both incredibly rich. We

1:08:09

know that your major, are you guys roommates?

1:08:11

This is how this goes. And how is

1:08:13

the friendship between you two? Paul, we'll start

1:08:15

with you, pal. Yeah,

1:08:17

we are roommates. The nice thing about the show is

1:08:19

we've got our own room, our own

1:08:21

rooms on the road. So we're not, you

1:08:24

know, we're not bunking up right now in

1:08:26

Toronto, but yeah, yeah, we're having

1:08:28

a good time. And Jared, how is it? I think

1:08:30

we talked to Paul about this before when he was

1:08:32

on the show. You

1:08:34

know, you two kind of going through something similar,

1:08:36

but you different paths. How is it to have

1:08:39

a guy like Paul in the bullpen alongside of

1:08:41

you? Has it made you better? Do you feel

1:08:43

like you're competing against each other, learning from each

1:08:45

other? What's it like, Jared? Yeah,

1:08:47

I'd definitely say we're learning from each other. Just

1:08:50

going out there, I'm sure he takes notes on what I

1:08:52

do when I throw and I do the exact same thing

1:08:54

when he throws. And obviously he's a lot of fun to

1:08:56

watch when he does throw. I

1:09:00

told him this style season, I'm training the whole

1:09:02

off season with you to learn that spelinket at

1:09:04

your throne. But he's been fun to watch. He

1:09:06

said it's not even a spelink. I just call

1:09:08

it a sinker is what I call it, but

1:09:10

everybody else calls it a spelinker. What is different

1:09:12

about it? And is there things like finger position

1:09:14

on ball that you guys kind of give to

1:09:16

each other, Jared? Yeah,

1:09:18

it's 95 and it has

1:09:21

the most movement I've ever seen on a

1:09:23

sinker. So it's pretty gross,

1:09:25

but he was telling me how he throws it and

1:09:27

stuff like that. So a lot

1:09:29

of stuff to work on there this off season.

1:09:31

Paul, whenever we last talked to you, you

1:09:34

know, you were just kind of getting started in this entire thing. Now

1:09:37

you've somehow become a guy that

1:09:40

when you strike people out, you're dancing on

1:09:42

one foot. Hell yeah. Any, you see that?

1:09:45

You see that shit where he's just in

1:09:47

the middle of a major league ballpark and

1:09:49

like his fourth start, just like, boo, that's

1:09:51

a good, yeah, all right. Cool. Yep,

1:09:54

can't hit that fucking ball, okay. It's

1:09:58

like a celebrity. softball

1:10:00

game out there. Has

1:10:02

there been any anxiety, motion, nerves,

1:10:04

change as you go? Or are you just settling in

1:10:06

and getting more comfortable every single time you hit on

1:10:09

the mound? Just settling

1:10:11

in. You know, the game doesn't change. People

1:10:13

change. So, yeah,

1:10:15

the only thing different right now, I think, is the stadiums

1:10:17

are a little bit bigger, but it's the same game. Are

1:10:21

the balls moving faster because you're in the majors? And

1:10:23

how much, how do you guys hide the spider tech?

1:10:28

No spider tech. You

1:10:30

guys are young. Jared, is that

1:10:32

generation before you and you guys,

1:10:35

like, is that something that's real? Because that spider

1:10:37

tech thing I learned about whenever people are getting

1:10:39

patted down. Well, yeah, that was just in the

1:10:42

last couple of years, just kind of came out

1:10:44

of nowhere. And then I think Cece, Sibathia came

1:10:46

on and was like, yeah, I guess it was

1:10:48

happening. I didn't know. So it was from Cece's

1:10:50

era to like a couple of years ago, was

1:10:53

the spiders. You guys are always trying to do

1:10:55

shit, but it's like more severe

1:10:57

punishment now than ever if you were to add a little

1:10:59

bit of grip to the fingers. So do you just not

1:11:01

do any of it? Is that real? Or how does that

1:11:04

whole thing work in your generation, Jared? Yeah,

1:11:07

I've never really used it. I

1:11:09

kind of got a first glimpse of it right when I

1:11:11

got into pro ball. I was playing catch with someone like

1:11:13

my first time out when we got sent

1:11:15

out in 2020. And I

1:11:18

felt the ball. I was like, dude, what is on

1:11:20

this baseball? And he was telling me,

1:11:22

oh, it's spider tech. That was before it was banned and

1:11:24

stuff like that. But I've really

1:11:26

never been on it. I've always just used the rosin that

1:11:29

we're giving on the mound. And

1:11:31

sometimes my hand turns a little black and

1:11:33

I've had a couple of umpires telling me to watch

1:11:35

myself. I go, dude, it's just just Ross.

1:11:38

I don't care. Wash your hands. All right,

1:11:40

whatever. It's a bad look, okay? Everybody in

1:11:42

here can see that you got something on

1:11:44

your damn hand. Go ahead, AJ. Go

1:11:48

ahead, AJ. This is for both

1:11:50

of you, but Paul, you can go first. Do you guys,

1:11:52

have you thought about the possibility one

1:11:54

day in your major league career that someone

1:11:56

may charge the mound on you? And I just want to know

1:11:58

if you guys have a plan, maybe, if someone does. come charging

1:12:00

at you and your catcher doesn't get them before they get to you?

1:12:04

Yeah I took a boxing class at Air Force. I

1:12:07

wasn't very good but I have a little bit of

1:12:09

practice. So

1:12:11

you know, just got to fight them. Jared

1:12:14

knows me a little bit. Jared, do you? Jared,

1:12:17

you're taking the MMA class? Is it

1:12:19

jujitsu? No, I haven't. I haven't. But

1:12:21

I have gotten charged before and it wasn't a very pretty

1:12:23

sight. Okay, Paul, have you ever gotten

1:12:25

charged? I haven't. You're

1:12:28

so big. You think so. You got to meet them and

1:12:30

tackle them. You got to meet

1:12:32

them halfway and tackle them I think and take it to them.

1:12:35

Yeah Jared, you did the Collins-Ror slide and obviously you're a football

1:12:37

guy. I think you're

1:12:39

charging them. They think they're charging

1:12:41

you. You're charging them Jared. I

1:12:43

think that's the plan. I got to go to the back

1:12:45

of the mound and just get a running head start, jump

1:12:48

up and go spikes first and do something. Yes!

1:12:51

No rules in the fight. A

1:12:53

missile drop kick off the mound?

1:12:56

You're getting ejected obviously but boy

1:12:58

that would be the Honda Boys merch. Through

1:13:01

the roof. There we go. Now Jared,

1:13:05

can you feel it in Pittsburgh that

1:13:07

baseball is like in, I

1:13:09

don't want to just say like hey it's because

1:13:11

of YouTube but like hey it's because of YouTube.

1:13:13

Can you feel it in Pittsburgh Jared whenever you

1:13:15

go to the ballpark? And

1:13:17

how is it? It hasn't always been like

1:13:19

this. You guys need to know that. I know you're both new

1:13:21

to the city to play in there. It has not always been

1:13:23

like that. Does it feel very real right now? Yeah,

1:13:26

I mean this past couple of home stands

1:13:29

like our crowds are selling

1:13:31

out. Like we're getting people at the ballpark and

1:13:33

it's a lot of fun to play in front

1:13:35

of. Paul when you

1:13:37

played Q Country Roads in

1:13:39

Pittsburgh, did you just feel like you were

1:13:41

the coolest dude on earth? I saw a video

1:13:44

and I thought to myself, A I should have known

1:13:46

that song a lot sooner. Sorry Mr. Godwin.

1:13:48

And B in Pittsburgh, what a legendary move.

1:13:50

You know that Paul. Yeah,

1:13:53

one of the bad boys came up to me

1:13:55

after my debut and he was like I love

1:13:57

the warm up song and I was

1:13:59

like yeah. I couldn't really hear it to be honest

1:14:01

the the the crowd was so

1:14:03

loud that day, but my life started home I

1:14:05

heard it pretty well, and it

1:14:08

gives me chills a little bit. Let's go

1:14:10

I love that tie has a question for

1:14:12

you obviously both of you guys being drafted

1:14:14

where you're at You know I mean Paul.

1:14:16

We know you played catcher before Jared obviously

1:14:18

you're a stud in high school Who's

1:14:21

the better hitter between you two because I still

1:14:23

think it's bullshit that there's a DH in the

1:14:25

National League But like you guys even get to

1:14:28

take BP or do the Pirates just put you

1:14:30

in like Bubble wrap everywhere you go because they

1:14:32

know hey if either one of these guys gets

1:14:34

hurt or probably fucked Yeah,

1:14:37

no BP for us. I think we both hit

1:14:40

a little bit in the offseason, but not during

1:14:43

the season It's been a

1:14:45

while since I picked up a bet Who's a

1:14:47

better hitter? I'm

1:14:49

gonna go with him. He's his his a hitting career went

1:14:51

a little bit farther than mine mine stopped in high school

1:14:54

Why is that in baseball just because you only have

1:14:56

so many reps on your arms Jared why you can

1:14:59

I assume they noticed you We're gonna be a great

1:15:01

pitcher like all right. Why are we even messing around

1:15:03

with the bat? Let's go ahead and do that let's

1:15:05

go ahead and stop that why is that you think

1:15:07

and when did that start taking place? I assume you're

1:15:09

not a history expert, but why did you enjoy it

1:15:11

whenever it happened? Did you just expect it whenever it

1:15:13

happened to you I? Mean

1:15:16

yeah, I loved hitting. I used to hit tanks

1:15:18

in high school, but uh yeah I don't I

1:15:20

don't really know the research behind that but yeah

1:15:24

As soon as I signed with Pittsburgh

1:15:26

they they shut that down pretty quick. When

1:15:28

did you start throwing a hundred? This

1:15:32

year I haven't hit 100 before

1:15:34

this year. That's all boom so

1:15:37

you we're only faster right all right I

1:15:39

mean that's where we're only get faster Yeah

1:15:44

Hondo boys about to be yeah 105 boy Yeah,

1:15:48

about start looking like one of those little

1:15:50

tickers things. That's going through I mean just

1:15:52

straight gas stood just straight absolute Josh

1:15:55

Tetris you guys have conversations with your catchers.

1:15:57

I think we've we've asked you before this

1:16:00

ball because obviously you used to be a catcher. But

1:16:02

like, are they the ones telling you like, hey, it

1:16:04

feels like it's coming a little bit harder right now

1:16:06

to you or like, hey, you're having a good day

1:16:08

or bad day. What are the conversations with the catchers,

1:16:11

Jared? I

1:16:14

mean, most of the conversations I have with the

1:16:16

catcher set up right down the middle and I'm gonna let

1:16:18

all my stuff play right off of that. I

1:16:22

know I have an idea where the ball is going.

1:16:24

I'm not like a pinpoint guy where it's like, oh,

1:16:26

I'm gonna dot this fastball inside on you. If

1:16:29

it gets there, it gets there. But

1:16:31

yeah, I just kind of tell my guys, set

1:16:33

up right down the middle and let everything else

1:16:35

play off of that. All right, it's gonna be

1:16:37

like left half, like left lower quadrant over there.

1:16:39

I think, you know, I mean, is it gonna

1:16:41

be perfect? We'll see, you know, all that little

1:16:43

square and now that Angel Hernandez is

1:16:45

in umpire and maybe those will be called strikes if

1:16:47

I am. You guys can't do that. You guys can't

1:16:50

do it disrespect the umpires. Obviously don't even think about

1:16:52

it boys. Okay, everything Paul, your

1:16:54

mustache is fucking moving. Let's

1:16:56

have a little bit more respect for the umpires pal. Let's

1:17:00

go ahead and do that. Tom has a question for

1:17:02

you boys. I feel like I might know the answer

1:17:04

based off of Jared talking about the splinker earlier, but

1:17:06

which one of you two has the better out pitch?

1:17:08

And I know you guys might say the splinker, but

1:17:11

Jared, I mean, there was a time earlier this season

1:17:13

where you made a guy from the Brewers just, he

1:17:15

had no idea what towards like, yeah, he didn't know

1:17:17

where it was that. So who has a better out

1:17:19

pitch? I

1:17:23

mean, I wouldn't say it's better,

1:17:25

but I think we both have different qualities.

1:17:27

I think my slider is really good. And

1:17:29

I think his little splitter splinker thing is

1:17:32

really, really good. So I mean, with

1:17:35

those two pitches combined, I think they're just

1:17:37

right up there with each other. And Jared,

1:17:40

how come, how come Kutch only hits home

1:17:42

runs in Paul's starts and none of yours

1:17:44

starts? Oh. I

1:17:48

mean, he's a lot more excited to watch. Maybe

1:17:50

everyone's just juiced up for whenever Paul pitches. Jared,

1:17:52

you gotta start working the locker room, buddy. You

1:17:55

gotta start getting some things to pay. Yeah,

1:17:57

I gotta start kicking some doors in. No,

1:18:00

no, that's the wrong way! The wrong way, you

1:18:02

get more honey than with vinegar, that's what they

1:18:04

say. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Skeens, obviously the

1:18:07

reaction from the crowd when, you know, your pitch

1:18:09

and you mentioned you could barely hear the intro

1:18:11

song, but did you expect all

1:18:13

the stashes in the crowd? That

1:18:15

was kind of a cool little thing, it was kind

1:18:17

of a mania of all these kids wearing stashes and

1:18:19

then Jared, are you thinking about maybe messing around with

1:18:22

a mullet? Because then maybe people might start wearing mullets

1:18:24

around- With the stash. With the stash. They just put

1:18:26

your head up. I mean, look, just something to think

1:18:28

about, boys. It's a good look. Oh,

1:18:30

we got one! Wow! Wow!

1:18:34

Unbelievable! Nice. That's

1:18:36

good. Yeah, he's got the

1:18:38

pull. Skeens, do you

1:18:40

see the mustaches around time? I

1:18:43

didn't, well, I didn't during the game. I

1:18:45

heard about them after the game, saw them a little bit

1:18:47

after the game, but I didn't see them at all during

1:18:49

the game. Kids are growing, locked in. Paul,

1:18:51

you were playing in a stadium here that was right next

1:18:53

to a zoo that you could see from the pitcher's mound,

1:18:55

do you remember that? Could you see them? Yeah.

1:18:58

In, literally right above where

1:19:01

you would be sitting in between innings.

1:19:04

Six kids. Yeah. You

1:19:06

must have thought to yourself, oh, these kids in Pittsburgh grow mustaches

1:19:09

early. Yeah, that's for men already. That is, that's what you were

1:19:11

saying, Paul, that's for you. That's for

1:19:13

you out there. And when you're about town, are you leaving

1:19:15

your house at all or apartment or are you just napping

1:19:17

in baseball still, Paul? Pretty

1:19:19

much just napping in baseball, going to the field, you

1:19:22

know, early and staying there late. So,

1:19:24

it's a good life. Jared, are you the same

1:19:26

way? No,

1:19:29

I think I got a little bit more hobbies. We

1:19:31

got a little pond right behind our house.

1:19:33

I mean, he comes out with us. He's

1:19:36

definitely caught more fish than me since he started coming

1:19:38

out, but we do go fishing right at that pond.

1:19:41

Oh, you guys, we got big old lippers. What

1:19:43

do we, what's that? What are we catching? Yeah, what

1:19:45

are we fishing for? What's the music? Are we on

1:19:47

a boat? Are we on the side of pond? Where

1:19:49

are we, John? Doc? It's a

1:19:51

little pond. There's no boat, but there's the small mouth

1:19:53

bass and then there's bluegill out there. Paul,

1:19:56

you're just reeling a bit, huh? You make that thing dance out there?

1:19:58

Is that what we're... Occasionally,

1:20:02

I caught a frog one time.

1:20:04

You could throw baseballs at

1:20:06

the fish. No, sure. Come on.

1:20:09

Catch them throwing them back. It's the word on the game.

1:20:11

Catch and release. We're not talking about murdering these fish. I

1:20:13

don't want to murder the fish. I don't want to say

1:20:15

that you could cook it and then bless it and then

1:20:17

eat it obviously. You're not just killing them and throwing them

1:20:19

back. Hey, Paul Skeens, down Louisiana, you ever fished a fish

1:20:21

down there? You ever do one of those fisting of fishes,

1:20:23

you know, noodling? No. No,

1:20:26

I didn't. I've heard you

1:20:28

can get your hand pretty screwed

1:20:30

up that way. I don't know.

1:20:32

I don't think any of our

1:20:35

friends did that either as far as I know. Yeah,

1:20:38

I guess a pitcher should not be the

1:20:40

one fisting fish. Yeah, sounds like probably the

1:20:42

right decision. How many strikeouts this year? Do

1:20:44

we know already? Is it 23, I think?

1:20:46

What is the... No, it's got to be

1:20:48

more than that. Yeah, it's more than that.

1:20:50

I forget. We're donating 30. I

1:20:53

don't know. All right. Donating

1:20:55

100 per, you're donating 100 per. And

1:20:58

if you break the all-time record, let's remember,

1:21:01

one million bucks, okay? You were almost on

1:21:03

your way. The first game after we talked

1:21:05

about that, you were just sawing everybody down.

1:21:07

Was there ever a thought like, I might strike

1:21:09

out every fisting human that steps in a batter's

1:21:11

box today? Is that how you felt? No,

1:21:15

I knew they were bound

1:21:17

to hit some at some point. That's

1:21:20

how the game goes. They didn't though. Yeah, but

1:21:22

they didn't. And then you left. Then you left

1:21:24

the game. Thank

1:21:26

God. We don't have to donate a million in this

1:21:29

early in this entire thing, but we'd love to. It'll

1:21:31

obviously be for a good thing. But you could have. You

1:21:34

were set up to do that. Well, and if I'm remembering

1:21:36

correctly, you threw seven innings and no hit ball, right? But

1:21:38

you were at 100 pitches. Was

1:21:40

there any conversation like, hey, listen, I get

1:21:42

it. I'm young. Let me go throw

1:21:44

a no-hitter right now. No. I

1:21:48

mean, that's just where we're at right now, too, especially

1:21:50

with the innings restrictions that

1:21:52

we've been having. And I mean,

1:21:55

100 pitches is 100 pitches. Like,

1:21:57

that's where the game's at right now. I wasn't really

1:21:59

expecting that. to go any

1:22:01

longer than that. You trust the plan, that's

1:22:03

what you're saying too. There was no, yeah. Yeah,

1:22:07

absolutely. Are you a part

1:22:09

of that plan, like conversation, or somebody like,

1:22:12

you know, like you're told this stuff or they ask

1:22:14

you how you're feeling, or is it like, has there

1:22:16

been a blueprint of others in the past? Like, hey,

1:22:18

here's the number, probably, if we want this to last,

1:22:20

as long as we want this to last. Yeah,

1:22:24

I mean, I'm not in the room where

1:22:26

they're deciding the absolute number that

1:22:31

we're not going above, I guess. But it's

1:22:33

a conversation, for

1:22:35

sure. But there's

1:22:37

definitely a plan. I think it's all based on what's happened

1:22:40

in the past and some data that they have. So they're

1:22:43

a lot smarter than I am on that stuff. We

1:22:45

would love for you to play for the next

1:22:47

30 years in Pittsburgh. And on

1:22:50

the other side, Jared, obviously, you were starting

1:22:52

this season. 70

1:22:54

strikeouts from Jared Jones. 30

1:22:58

from Paul Skeens, the hundo

1:23:00

boys. Ladies and gentlemen, we can't thank

1:23:02

you enough, the future of Pittsburgh Pirates baseball, bringing

1:23:04

baseball back to Pittsburgh in a massive way. Have

1:23:06

a great rest of the season, boys. You said

1:23:08

you're in Toronto right now. Yuck.

1:23:12

Blue Jays stink this year. Canada does too.

1:23:14

Go have some of the bad blues, boys.

1:23:17

Crush a couple of bad blues, boys.

1:23:21

All right, thank you, guys. Good for Jay Bell, and

1:23:23

Paul Skeens, Jared Jettison. Oh. Oh. What

1:23:27

are they supposed to say when Connor says Canada sucks?

1:23:30

What can they do? The Blue Jays suck

1:23:32

in Canada. Just

1:23:34

like, if they're so quick, so

1:23:37

matter of fact, you

1:23:39

boys are real talent. Don't let anybody ever say anything different.

1:23:42

Never. Having a bad blue

1:23:44

boys, dumpy. Love the bad blue. On

1:23:46

top of that. So they seem to

1:23:48

get along really well. So young. Yeah.

1:23:52

Jared had 10, I think, in his debut. And

1:23:56

he's been unbelievable. He's got a ball. He drafted pretty well, huh?

1:23:58

They know how to be drafted well, don't they? Well that's the

1:24:00

thing about the Pirates, we got a lot of World Series

1:24:02

champions on other teams. They do. Like

1:24:04

they uh... Keep them in town.

1:24:06

Well the reason why you can draft

1:24:08

one is normally probably because draft positions are also pretty

1:24:11

good for the Pirates on a regular basis. In the

1:24:13

first pick. There's a chance of that. Part of it.

1:24:15

It happened to the Orioles though, right? The Orioles had

1:24:17

the top pick and now they're good. Yeah, for sure.

1:24:19

And that's been the Pirates thing, like you said, they

1:24:22

haven't been willing to pay the guys the home

1:24:24

grown talent and then those guys have went elsewhere.

1:24:27

But a guy like Skeens

1:24:29

and Jared Jones obviously, like if they're,

1:24:31

I mean, shit if they make the

1:24:33

playoffs this year or at least competitive, like that's when

1:24:35

you start thinking like, okay, like we, this is like

1:24:38

a Randy Johnson, Kurt Schilling kind of one-two

1:24:40

punch that we could have for the next

1:24:42

15 years if they stay

1:24:44

healthy. I like the moxie of old Jared Jones. Yeah.

1:24:47

He understands. This guy's the star. I

1:24:50

get it completely. I'm cool. When did

1:24:52

you start throwing 100 this year? Got them

1:24:54

all in already. I really

1:24:56

enjoy the dynamic between those two. Seems like

1:24:58

in public, probably in a restaurant, we got

1:25:00

a nice yin and yang here. For sure.

1:25:03

In Paul Skeens, you know, they say quiet

1:25:05

mouth, loud mind. You know, there's a lot.

1:25:08

There's a lot cooking up there. You can tell

1:25:10

whenever he starts going. There was a bit of

1:25:13

a Pat and Chris Cavanaugh situation going on there.

1:25:15

Well, speaking of,

1:25:17

congratulations to Pat Cavanaugh. Hell yeah,

1:25:19

Pat. You won a Twarathon. Twarathon.

1:25:21

Twarathon. Twarathon, which might be the

1:25:23

coolest trophy in sport. Now, no

1:25:26

offense. I'm saying coolest individual award trophy.

1:25:28

Yeah, it is. It was sweet. And

1:25:30

this is third time being nominated for

1:25:32

it is the Heisman of lacrosse. I

1:25:35

do believe that trophy though. Now, obviously

1:25:37

front of the program, Pat Cavanaugh, the

1:25:39

Cavanaugh boys, obviously good lives.

1:25:42

Good lacrosse. That entire thing

1:25:44

and the Cavanaugh camps are going to be

1:25:47

killer, you know, in the future whenever they

1:25:49

decide and figure out how to, you

1:25:51

know, do it. Sure. Yeah. It's

1:25:54

just sitting right there. Oh,

1:25:57

everybody in your family is good. Okay. to

1:26:00

go town to town to town and just have

1:26:03

camps. Hundreds of camps playing lacrosse. You

1:26:05

could just sell it out, and especially

1:26:07

going bak to bak as national champs.

1:26:09

So what if Chris goes three straight?

1:26:11

Yeah, exactly. Oh my God. Anyways, Pat

1:26:14

Covinault, good lad. Good lad. Happy

1:26:16

he won the Tewaraton. Yep. And

1:26:19

this is something I assume that all the

1:26:21

greats have to have in their resume, con

1:26:23

men, as somebody that knows the world better

1:26:25

than me. That is kind of the thing.

1:26:27

This almost does solidify him as like one

1:26:29

of, if not the greatest lacrosse player in

1:26:31

college, damn near, especially in the last 15 years, just

1:26:34

because of the fact that, you know, he took a

1:26:36

school that has never won a Natty and won back

1:26:38

to back. And then last year, I believe he was

1:26:40

the runner up to Brennan O'Neill, or he came in

1:26:42

third. And winning this does kind of

1:26:45

put a nice little bow on his entire career.

1:26:47

Now we'll see if he can go win a

1:26:49

PLL cup with the Boston Cannons. And do I

1:26:51

know if it's called the PLL cup or not?

1:26:53

No, but I do know that if he does

1:26:55

that too on top with his older brother now,

1:26:57

after winning with his younger brother, I

1:27:00

think we call it the PLL ship. The PLL ship.

1:27:02

You win an actual ship

1:27:04

with lacrosse people on the top. Yeah,

1:27:06

and like the mast is like a

1:27:08

lacrosse stick and the sails are a

1:27:10

lacrosse head. We should know more about

1:27:12

the stuff we talk about. That is

1:27:14

a very, very valid

1:27:17

complaint. Well, we know.

1:27:19

We know. We know, it's just like some

1:27:21

of the things we don't know are small

1:27:23

in the entire conversation. Yeah, what they're playing

1:27:26

for all the way. We

1:27:28

should know that. We're playing for championships. We just

1:27:30

don't know what the championship trophy is called. That's

1:27:32

right. And we're playing for banners up there for

1:27:35

the Boston Cavanaugh Cannons. Always are.

1:27:37

Where do they play at Gillette? Actually,

1:27:40

I'm not sure. Cause this is the first

1:27:42

time they're going to be back as like Boston

1:27:45

as a home base. I know they played

1:27:47

at BU for a little, but they usually do

1:27:49

the state championships at Harvard. Hey, congratulations though

1:27:51

to Pat Cavanaugh. Yeah, absolutely go Pat. Now,

1:27:53

Chris Cavanaugh is going to have to get one of those.

1:27:55

He's going to be all by himself next year at Notre Dame

1:27:57

leading the boys hopefully to a third straight national. Championship.

1:28:00

I mean if you're Chris Cavanaugh you're making the

1:28:02

argument that you deserve the Toraton because you had

1:28:04

81 points over your brother Well, and I

1:28:07

believe if I know anything about the

1:28:09

Cavanaugh's they're cool with it. Yeah. Oh,

1:28:11

yeah It's the cash app championship the

1:28:14

PLL cash app. Okay, that's not what

1:28:16

the trophies call We

1:28:20

look for a premier lacrosse league they

1:28:22

tweeted the cash app championship Yeah, the

1:28:24

cash app championship must be the name

1:28:26

of the Natty similar to like a

1:28:29

fiesta tostitos bowl But I don't

1:28:31

think that's for the whole league. Yeah, that's I looked at

1:28:33

it's called the cash app chomping PLL cash app chomp I

1:28:35

have to any pack. I know it could be a cash

1:28:37

off time Yeah,

1:28:39

we got now just make up a name and

1:28:41

put it on the trail actually says it on

1:28:44

the trophy the cash off That

1:28:47

one bit that grinds

1:28:49

my gears Make

1:28:51

it like the Mikey Powell Trophy

1:28:53

or something like that. Give me a break.

1:28:55

No, so obviously this is good business because

1:28:57

we're saying it right now This is exactly

1:29:00

how able and the boys and the

1:29:02

entire PLL team sold this to cash I'm

1:29:04

even a more champion. Everybody's a cash app

1:29:06

champion So,

1:29:09

I mean Rabel potentially founder of League should get

1:29:11

a little bit of a nod somewhere But

1:29:14

I don't know if you should

1:29:16

sell the the championship trophy. Yeah advertised I respect

1:29:19

it. I do and they got to do what

1:29:21

they got to do and they got a lot

1:29:23

of big brains and everything like that Selling

1:29:26

the title is certainly a I mean,

1:29:28

that's like when the NCAA sold the

1:29:31

D1 football championships to the BCS Yeah, they

1:29:33

just sold them to the BCS like we

1:29:35

don't want it there. The NCAA champion was

1:29:37

a D2 champion That's like who they were

1:29:39

actually crowning. So they just sold the rights

1:29:41

away to it I don't

1:29:43

know if Pat Cavanaugh after winning Swarathon

1:29:45

is as jacked up to be chasing a cash

1:29:47

app championship Yeah, but that's just for now wait

1:29:49

till you know Good dog get the sniff of

1:29:52

this and all of a sudden you're fighting for

1:29:54

the Apple TV Lombardi. Okay Maybe

1:29:57

he never know how much pain to

1:29:59

have that head coach's name. 20

1:30:01

million. The class of 94, Chris Bigwood. 90 step in.

1:30:04

They are not the only people. No, I know. Everybody

1:30:06

has kind of done this. Just like the Michigan State

1:30:08

team is actually not even Michigan State Spartans. They're the

1:30:10

Michigan State Spartans sponsored by

1:30:12

United Whole Mortgage. Rocket Mortgage. Oh

1:30:14

yeah. Rocket Mortgage. That's our actual

1:30:17

name. So coming to the court, the

1:30:21

Michigan State Spartans presented

1:30:23

by Rocket Mortgage. That's

1:30:30

our coach. January,

1:30:33

February, February. Ispia.

1:30:38

That would be Dan Gilbert. I'd

1:30:43

say everyone would say it. Taper

1:30:46

has there. I just saw their OC and DC

1:30:48

sponsored as well. Dude. Like

1:30:50

the so-and-so family, Stanford offensive

1:30:52

coordinator. That's awesome. I

1:30:55

love it. Anywhere you can get it, go

1:30:57

ahead and do it. Amen. But I don't

1:30:59

think you should do the championship of your diary. Hey,

1:31:03

when you're exhausted and puking and

1:31:06

you don't want to run another lap,

1:31:08

remember that

1:31:10

fucking cash in. I've

1:31:14

run through a brick wall for sure. That's tough, isn't

1:31:16

it? That's tough. It just shouldn't be on the actual

1:31:18

trophy. You could call the final game the cash

1:31:20

out champion. Exactly. When

1:31:23

you engrave it and when it's

1:31:25

on the actual trophy. Immortalize it. It's

1:31:27

tough. I don't think it's on there

1:31:29

enough. It probably pays like $200

1:31:31

million for this or something. Crazy. Listen,

1:31:34

I guess we should refrain from judgment

1:31:36

until we at least hear what it is because

1:31:39

they might be supplying the entire league. They might

1:31:41

be co-owners. There could be a QR code on

1:31:43

there where fans can send money to the PLL.

1:31:46

Yeah. Also buy some beers. Send some

1:31:48

beers to the champion. Yeah. Everybody

1:31:51

gets a day with the cash out champion. Oh

1:31:53

my God. 10

1:31:55

cents from every cash out interaction

1:31:58

on that particular. Other day

1:32:01

goes to the play the champion who has

1:32:03

the cash out shopping that day. Holy shit

1:32:05

now it makes sense. Love it I love

1:32:07

the other QR codes on their own jerseys

1:32:09

They have like individual QR codes in the

1:32:11

jersey so we could support them do that

1:32:13

guy sick Pause

1:32:16

it pause it pause it Pause it

1:32:18

send him a time of 15 20 21

1:32:22

bucks a week went bar down The

1:32:25

cash app championship is later this summer We

1:32:27

will certainly keep an eye on it as

1:32:29

the Boston Cavanaugh cannons will battle against the

1:32:31

Albany Atlas

1:32:35

Atlas, so it is I think New York, New

1:32:37

York, Albany's in New York so close enough Yeah,

1:32:39

I don't know if Albany has a team officially.

1:32:41

I'm not sure I know that's your training camp,

1:32:43

please Joining

1:32:46

us now is a man who would have been fantastic Oh

1:32:48

at lacrosse if he would have played it and I

1:32:50

will be excited to get his take on

1:32:53

the cross because he is Famous Canadian

1:32:55

and we know lacrosse is a Canadian

1:32:57

sport Ladies and gentlemen

1:32:59

from spittin' chicklets and NHL

1:33:01

on TNT absolute

1:33:04

legend Paul Bincernet

1:33:08

What's up everybody great to see ya

1:33:10

thanks again for having me on I'm like

1:33:12

a regular now That's well every time

1:33:15

I asked you to come on I feel like an asshole

1:33:17

because how often you come on I'm very thankful that you

1:33:19

take time to join us Okay,

1:33:21

good I hope that's the case because spittin'

1:33:23

chicklets obviously incredibly massive and Influencing the entire

1:33:25

hockey world and then NHL and see on

1:33:27

see you're on every other night for like

1:33:29

five six hours So you make it time

1:33:31

for us. We're very grateful for now. We

1:33:33

have a question for you Do you know

1:33:36

that the PLL the premier?

1:33:39

lacrosse league Do you

1:33:41

know their championship trophy like the Lombardi Lordeaux

1:33:43

Stanley Cup? The Lombardi is not

1:33:45

it's the cash app championship. That is literally

1:33:47

what the title It's on the trophy is

1:33:49

the cash app championship now We don't know

1:33:51

how much cash apps paying so we can't

1:33:53

judge it from that That was a wild

1:33:55

thing to learn on this particular feel-good Friday

1:33:58

biz. How do you feel about it? Um,

1:34:01

it's you know, it's it's new they're trying

1:34:03

to get money and grow the league so

1:34:05

I can understand it It's maybe not as

1:34:07

traditional as In other leagues

1:34:09

trying to start off. But yeah, I don't know

1:34:11

much about the league. That's Paul Rabel's league though,

1:34:13

right? Yes, that's what we all know. Yeah, that's

1:34:16

what we all do. Yeah, doll Well,

1:34:18

those charter flights don't pay for themselves boys

1:34:20

So I mean you gotta make some money

1:34:22

somehow, right? Amen and Paul Rabel keep going.

1:34:24

Oh, yeah Exactly and we do

1:34:26

believe we just decided that uh, you know Whenever

1:34:29

the winner gets that thing for a day like

1:34:31

the Stanley Cup you get it for a day

1:34:34

10 cents of every transaction on cash app should

1:34:36

go to that. Yeah player Yeah, it's just something

1:34:38

to think about we're just thinking of ideas for the

1:34:40

players or at least the MVP Yeah,

1:34:43

at least at least you could do at

1:34:45

least that's why they're minimal. Uh, let's go

1:34:47

to the nhl Stanley Cup was here the

1:34:49

other day It was awesome. Mira is the

1:34:51

one that is tracking it and following it

1:34:53

and This year it was it

1:34:55

was a fantastic experience. It was a great experience Now

1:34:58

we have two series that are living up

1:35:00

to the hype here Okay, three two in

1:35:02

the east obviously two two in the west

1:35:04

with a big game tonight final four teams

1:35:06

seem like these are the right four Like

1:35:09

hockey has it going right now. What have you

1:35:11

learned thus far from both of these? I'll kind

1:35:13

of Keep it as an open

1:35:15

slate for you. And what are your thoughts on

1:35:17

how it's going? I think the nhl is buzzing

1:35:19

right now biz Well, oh

1:35:21

it's it's unreal. I agree with you guys. I

1:35:23

don't think you could have asked for a better

1:35:26

final four matchup Uh, let's start

1:35:28

with the east. I think the feeling

1:35:30

going in was rangers were this team

1:35:32

of destiny along with insane goal-tending They

1:35:35

got off to that two one series lead,

1:35:37

but ultimately the panthers are exactly who we

1:35:39

thought they were Uh, they're

1:35:42

a well-oiled machine. They're big they're physical

1:35:44

Uh, they don't have any weaknesses any time. Maybe

1:35:47

they they want to take out a third or

1:35:49

fourth liner They have another guy who is a

1:35:51

healthy scratchy They get put in who's going to

1:35:53

make just as big if not more of an

1:35:55

impact with fresh legs They have

1:35:57

great goal-tending as well. But uh Yeah,

1:36:00

they're they're they're firing at all cylinders and

1:36:02

when they want to dominate a game and

1:36:04

when they're rolling They just seem to

1:36:06

take over so right now the better team

1:36:09

is winning in florida I think that they

1:36:11

will advance but once again i'm not i'm

1:36:13

not discounting the rangers just simply based on

1:36:15

the fact of I don't know

1:36:18

if you've had all the things listed listed off

1:36:20

that's happened the last time since they won the

1:36:22

Stanley Cup in 94 like year of the eclipse

1:36:24

we had one this year Earthquake, uh, the fact

1:36:27

that they've won The president's

1:36:29

trophy the fact that they

1:36:31

had a natural hat trick in in that in

1:36:33

the playoff run with Chris Crier I want

1:36:36

to there's like two or three other ones

1:36:38

that are just these crazy stats that added

1:36:40

up where they won the cup In 94

1:36:43

and now it seems like it's their year

1:36:45

this year But I think the issue right

1:36:47

now with the Rangers is it seems like

1:36:49

Zabena Jad Panarin I know Crier score last

1:36:52