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Hello beautiful people and

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June 4th 2024

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this program starts now Sports

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a wonderful and we're lucky to talk about

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them every single day and yesterday while talking

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about sports I I utilized a descriptor that

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I certainly should not have Used

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now to break down the whole story would take

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about 15 20 minutes Obviously

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if you haven't heard you're not on the internet or

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I think any of the cable news or morning news

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Situations after about 15 minutes of doing

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a new game show called guess which Wmba

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rookie here on this particular program I

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utilized the words white bitch to describe

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Caitlin Clark as being the superstar in Indiana

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now when I was saying it I legitimately

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meant it in a complimentary fashion like this

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is This is the

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one you know and as I said it

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didn't even think honestly had no idea What

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was happening on the internet until two and a

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half hours later after the show ended then I

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realized and I started reading through a lot Of

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comments are being said and I felt like actually

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the worst human on earth for

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a good portion of my travels yesterday

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Over to Hershey and then into last night even during

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Monday night and flying home and even into this

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morning from things that people Are saying going damn

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those were not my intentions, but that's how you took it.

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That's on me I do apologize to a lot of the

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people though that were calling you racist. I had no idea

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that was impossible I guess I am 0.01% Italian. I did

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take 23 of me So

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I guess there is a little bit maybe I

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had no idea that was good or sexist like

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I that was not The

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15 minutes leading up or disrespectful to Caitlin the

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15 minutes leading up to that I was literally

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talking about how I hope that

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the Wmba and sports media and X

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Wmba players would show a little

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bit more respect to Caitlin Clark for what

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she has brought to the Wmba and in

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the end It was a takeaway

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that I was the most disrespectful person on

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earth to Caitlin Clark So obviously that's a

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massive I

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did reach out Do Kaitlyn Clark through the

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fever PR, sent an apology and then

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got a message back that she said

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it was all good, no blood. We

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move forward and she appreciates us reaching

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out and apologizing. So that obviously makes

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me feel a little bit better, but to the

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people that got pissed off yesterday and offended, I

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understand, I learned a lot, okay? I will say

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I learned a lot because we are a show

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that anytime we talk about somebody we have

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massive respect for, we normally call them an

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absolute dog. That is just

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standard operating procedure. At the ESPYs,

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I literally called Patrick Mahomes and

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Travis Kelsey assholes in the

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front row because they played football so good that

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somebody put a wolf mask on and

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decided to go bankrupt. So whenever I'm

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talking, the way

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I compliment is obviously not

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the same as everybody else. I have to keep

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that in mind, whatever I'm talking, maybe to a

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very new crowd about a very new sport that

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we are diving into, were diving into. And with that

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being said, I think the universe has told me, okay,

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let's stay in your own dumb ass lane. But I would

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like to say, I meant it as a compliment, those are

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my intentions. A lot of people didn't take it that way.

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Caitlin Clark did not feel disrespected, but

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a lot of people said I was disrespected her. That's the

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complete opposite of what I was trying to do. And

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we move forward with some sports. Now, everything I

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said though in that game show, true, matter

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of fact. Attendance, Caitlin, ratings,

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Caitlin, merch, Caitlin, business,

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Caitlin, popularity, Caitlin. Which

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is what I said for 50 minutes. So whenever I found

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out that I was disrespectful to Caitlin, I

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was massively confused that I dived in. Nonetheless,

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we learned, I learned, I apologize, and I'm

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also sorry, I put the boy shoes and

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tie thing. The toxic table is here at

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Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. So

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when we talk women's

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sports, we

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just say woman the entire time.

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That's what I learned, okay? This is not being an

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asshole, this is being very real. We do have to

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talk a little bit different, I think for

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people that don't fully understand us, if we're gonna dive in there. And

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that was my big learning lesson, I think for you. And

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also hey don't be as abrasive sometimes and a

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lot of people think you could be an asshole

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with some of the words that other People go.

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Oh, yeah, yeah standard operating procedures. Oh, it's a

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wild time weird time. I feel bad I put

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you guys through this attack one half of the

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hammer Child boys turn

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digits here and the all-black Johnny Cash looking

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great. Thank you nine year NFL vet Jerry's

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Jay Butler is here looking Debuts

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yesterday, I put us all in a situation. I

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apologize. I do I was reading some things

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are being said about me though Got a point

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It was yeah, but there was some stuff

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that was like a got a point got a point

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got a point and it did settle in It was

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a nice perspective changer and a realization, but then I

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had a lot of other people send me messages like

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yo, come on Wait, you

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got clipped. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And then

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out of a 15 minute thing which

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journalism I guess is I Don't

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know if you just nonetheless we

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move on. Let's do the sports Debuts

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good good news for you in your Florida

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Panthers down there in South Florida They're obviously

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in the Stanley Cup finals yet again back

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to back years. They're able to do that

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Do you know their GM has been there

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for about four years named Bill Zito great

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name great horn in Pittsburgh? Okay, he's gonna

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be joining us in the next hour to

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chat about his team This dude is a

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beast that we piecing together a hockey team

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now makes sense because he's from Pittsburgh Bill

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Zito has been a finalist for the Jim

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Gregory general manager of the year award

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This season and I believe he's been

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a finalist three out of the four

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years He's been a general manager for

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for the Florida Panthers Obviously makes

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a big move to bring in to Chuck and start to go

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to back-to-back Stanley Cup finals what a

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team can't wait to chat with him and then

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we'll also have out by deal I'll show you

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Wow and O'Neill what a day for out Bundy

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Nah, you know that ain't that

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ain't you know, that's not Good

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jokes. Yeah. Well, yeah, we're you up man. These guys

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are really been bought, you know Obviously

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he's from Married with Children Modern Family has

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a new series clipped which is out today

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Based on the hit ESPN 30-30 podcast

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the Sterling affairs on Hulu now if

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you do recall what happened with Donald

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Sterling owner of the Clippers He

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was recorded and then obviously massive story because

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what he said on there it turned out

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nobody really liked him as a human He

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sells team to Balmer now We got

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more toilets than any other arena big

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man Which is obviously big ups for

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the Clippers team and the franchise organization as

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a whole But I was at the ESPY's after

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that all happened and Drake was the host. Oh,

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yeah, and he just released a new song Yeah,

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you did Quandon

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Delilah, that's that's AI. No,

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brother. Yeah, that is AI

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Don't mind. Don't lie. Love. Why

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are you so many drinks back? Yeah, he's

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back not like he ever left, but he's

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back This is oh this

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one might actually yeah the dagger.

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Yeah, I might never listen to

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another Again, I am so

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how I took it credibly flustered

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about how that's a real song Like there's no

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way that that's that's got to be anyways. He

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was the host on Don Delilah So

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I know that original hey there New

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York City Pretty

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Yeah, I know that's exactly bang bang yeah,

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so that time I was random

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white Okay, wearing a t-shirt and

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a guitar baby like these baby.

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It was like busking pretty much.

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Yeah, just like kinda And

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home run yeah, oh, yeah absolute back

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Yeah, and now Drake said I'm

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gonna remix that 2024 fresh off a battle Kendrick

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Lamar I don't think it's real. Anyways.

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He was hosting ESPY's and he sang a song

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called Sterling never loved us and Yeah,

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it was not a good night to be

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white in that particular theater and arena You

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know because Sterling said some terrible terrible terrible

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things and then in time somebody in

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that position of power in that precision

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of Profession comes

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out that hey, this is the real human

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being you obviously have to start questioning everything

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and I think the NBA is obviously much

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Better past it, but I'm excited to hear

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how Al Bundy story in betrayal of this

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thing goes on hula should be a good

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story Oh, yeah, I'm correct. I altered the

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entire sports world trailer. Sure. I'm too. I've

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not seen the trailer look like it Cassie

8:25

will yeah, it's it's already getting my grave

8:27

reviews saying that like cuz you know Like

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it's a lot of people are comparing it

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to the Showtime show But it's only six

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episodes and like what they're diving into and

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it's it's getting like universal praise Available on

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Hulu shout to Hulu doing it cuz we

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thought Hulu was gonna be in trouble with

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YouTube TV Yeah, sure. Sunday ticket their shows

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though. I'm still yeah, so do the Hulu

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they're going. I still do the Hulu It's

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not they do make good shows. Yeah, these

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type of shows are all gone the bear

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this They do those

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they do it. They're doing the show as well Yeah,

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very well But like hearing more show about this stuff

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cuz honestly personally all I know about don't don't certain

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is that he's just a racist scumbag I don't I

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feel like I don't know Yeah,

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I don't know the intricacies of everything that

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went on and like winning time kind of

9:09

started it with the whole magic Story

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and Larry and Red All-Boc like if they continue to

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do these it's gonna be unbelievable to hear some of

9:15

this stuff Okay, let's start talking about some of the

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NFL news happening Can't wait to chat with Ed O'Neill

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here in about 10 minutes or so There

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are 10 mandatory mini camps starting

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around the NFL here in Indianapolis

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There's obviously one of them the

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Lions are started as well the Bears

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Caleb Williams and the boys obviously Mandatory

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mini camp which is in a extended version

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of the OTA's but maybe a little bit

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more dialed in you actually will see some

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Teams get rid of one day of mandatory

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mini Tampa or mini camp because the attendance

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throughout all though TAs has been so good

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We actually canceled our last mandatory mini camp

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Chuck Pagano I think his first year and

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that was because we had 99% Attendance

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throughout all the vote TAs and offseason

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conditioning phase one break or in three

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except for one guy What up, Woe?

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And when Woe got there, Woe couldn't do anything

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anyways because he was 275 pounds, was 0% muscle.

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So Chuck actually said, we don't even need the

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last day, we've already done all this. There's a

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chance that is what takes place throughout mandatory minicamps.

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It is good work. It's like kind of the

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last time you really get together before you have

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to do it real. But it certainly is a

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place for people to take a stand, like C.D.

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Lam, who's currently not at the Dallas Cowboys mandatory

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minicamp. Mandatory, obviously, that first word is a pretty

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important one there, you know? It's just like the

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first 15 minutes of a segment. But the

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first word there, that mandatory thing, is

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a real one. This is where fines start

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coming into play. This is where money starts

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getting deducted out. This is where shit really

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becomes accurate. So if people are sitting out

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of OTAs, nobody cares. Sitting out

10:45

of the off-season conditioning program, nobody cares. You sit

10:47

out of mandatory minicamp, it's like, okay, this is

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the real deal here. C.D. just sees the money

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going around to the wide receivers and saying, wait

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a second, when's this happening for me, D-Butch? Yeah,

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I don't blame him. And obviously, he wants his

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bag. I think Chef D. said he doesn't anticipate

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his deal being that close to Jefferson.

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That's all, man. But I

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do. I think it'll definitely be right

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in that ballpark when he gets his

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deal done. But I'm excited

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to see it done. He deserves it. He's the

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number one guy out there in Dallas. Obviously, you

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gotta pay Dak, you gotta pay Micah. Both of

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those guys probably gonna reset their markets as well.

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So Cowboys are in an interesting spot right now.

11:20

So Connor has an entire theory on the whole

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dude. They have to pay everybody. I

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don't know how long he's been cooking on it, but

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he certainly mentioned it this morning. And I think it's

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pretty real for a guy that just got the Medal

11:32

of Honor from Croatia. Yeah, last night it just kinda

11:34

hit me like, okay, because all these guys have been

11:36

paid this offseason, like, CD obviously deserves to be paid.

11:39

We can all agree on that. And there's been,

11:41

you know, five different wide receivers get a

11:43

lot of money. But if you're the Cowboys

11:45

and you look at it from, you know,

11:47

a four-year plan view here, Mike

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McCarthy's last year of his deal, right? Let's

11:52

say they do the whole 12 and five

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and losing the first round of the playoffs

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again. Probably you can assume Mike McCarthy's out.

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You know, if you don't- Don't get better,

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you know, then you're just getting worse. So especially Dallas,

12:02

people are gonna say Jason Garrett took a long time.

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Well, he's quarterback there and considered a child of Jerry

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Jones. There you go. Part of the

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thing he said, I feel like he is one of my team. Yeah.

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And like when that whole situation went down, we all

12:13

thought it was really weird because it was like Jason

12:15

Garrett got fired. And then there was a two week

12:17

period where it was almost as if he wasn't fired

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and then he officially got fired. But they wanted him

12:22

to leave. Yes. Jerry Jones was trying

12:24

to get Jason Garrett to walk out the door and say,

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you know what? Thank you for the opportunity. Boom. And

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then he had an agent say, nah, you don't

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go anywhere. We're getting paid. Yeah. We

12:33

are sticking around for sure. But yeah, you're right.

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In Big Mike, it doesn't feel like he's in

12:37

that situation. Big Mike is in his own situation.

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He needs to win and nothing has really happened

12:41

for him. But so if they are gonna go

12:43

after a different head coach after this season, you

12:45

can assume it'd be Bill Belichick. Cause you know,

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Bill Belichick kind of an elder statesman you could

12:49

say he's done 49 years

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in the NFL. So if Jerry Jones were to

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go after him, then Bill Belichick all of a

12:56

sudden becomes your head coach who knows if he's

12:58

your GM. But just looking at who Bill Belichick

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is, does he pay quarterbacks? Does

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he pay wide receivers? No. So

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if he does pay defensive

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ends, Mike Parsons, Mike Parsons is a

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part of the program. No matter who's

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coach, when's coach, how's coach? Bingo. And

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Bill has done that in New England. He paid Matthew

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Judon a bunch of money on day one of free

13:19

agency a few years ago. He's done it before. Obviously

13:22

with the Chandler Jones contract when it came to reset,

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he didn't do that. No offense at the point, but

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could you imagine Bill Belichick in his hands on Mike

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and Forrest? Oh my God. That would be sweet. Yeah,

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Julian Edelman doing cloud coverages and blitzing. Could you imagine

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what he would do? He had LT. Oh

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yeah. Who everybody's compared to pretty much.

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In the middle of the pack guys think about what

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he's done for those guys. Like that have, you

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know, went to New England, played unbelievable. And then,

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you know, are regarded as different. Michael Parsons is

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one of the top three pass rushers in the

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entire NFL. So you would think obviously he would

13:50

make him that number one defensive player. You said

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he's going to have to. You're

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saying Bill are in the future no matter where he goes.

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You're talking about Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, we're talking about Michael's. I'm

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saying you got it. The quarterback position, I mean

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Dak, I think the Cowboys took a little too

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long the first time they paid him down. I

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think he got 40 and then obviously that deal

14:07

looks great at this point, but I don't think

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he necessarily reset. I don't think he jumps burrow

14:11

or Herbert or those guys, but he's gonna be

14:13

in that ballpark. You can't, I mean, speak, if

14:15

you're Bill, you wanna come in and have to

14:17

draft the quarterback coming off of 11, 12 win

14:19

season, let's anticipate that. And the, you know, later

14:22

half of the first round, like I don't think

14:24

you wanna do that as a 73 year old

14:26

head coach. So you wanna have

14:28

your quarterback in place. I think they're gonna have to take

14:30

care of Dak. C.D. Lamb, maybe is the

14:32

question mark, maybe, but he's such a vocal

14:34

point of that offense. And then Micah, obviously

14:37

we know he's got it. C.D. was first

14:39

in catches last year. He was second in

14:41

yards, third in touchdowns, like C.D.'s gang. So

14:43

good, but the conversation, Tat looks sweet, sweet.

14:46

Tat looks very sweet, that's my first time seeing it, got

14:48

eyes on it, things glistening. Very sweet, there you go. But

14:51

you're talking about, C.D. kinda gets glossed over

14:53

because the conversation's always about the drama of

14:55

the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. You

14:57

know, like his Dak, Prescott, a guy. Mike

14:59

McCarthy, you see on his way out, Jerry Jones. What's

15:02

he doing? That's the whole conversation, it's like

15:05

this dude is the

15:07

one making the plays for the Dallas

15:09

Cowboys whenever. And he's obviously holding out

15:11

there in a mandatory minicamp. It's a

15:13

big statement from C.D. and his team

15:15

saying, we ain't doing shit until we

15:17

get a deal together here. Because if he goes to

15:19

mandatory minicamp, it gets hurt. What do we get? You're

15:22

gonna hold that over his head. Now granted, there are

15:24

some people that have done like hold-ins, you know, where

15:26

you show up to the building but you're not gonna

15:28

really participate in any of the on-field stuff. We'll be

15:30

in the meeting. We understand it's a mandatory minicamp. I'll

15:32

come in, say what's up to my thing. But

15:35

that is not how C.D. Lamb is choosing

15:37

to handle this. Michael Parsons is in the

15:39

building and Mike McCarthy said he's engaged. So

15:41

I don't know what that necessarily means. But

15:43

C.D. not being at this, I think, is

15:45

a big statement for C.D. Especially the way

15:47

the Cowboys' offense has evolved like the last

15:49

three years, you know. I mean, when Dak

15:51

was younger, it was, everyone talked about the

15:53

O-line and how good they were. And it

15:55

was the two-headed monster with Zeke and Pollard.

15:57

And then Zeke leaves and it's Pollard by

15:59

himself. and he's not really like the bell cow

16:01

number one guy and now they're throwing it 45 50 times

16:04

a game with Dak So

16:06

it's like CD knows like hey, I'm the vocal point

16:08

of this offense It's not hey, we're gonna pound it

16:10

down your throat anymore and Dak's gonna make the throws

16:12

when he needs to it's like I'm

16:15

relied on to catch at least 10 plus balls

16:17

every single game. So yeah, I mean, why wouldn't

16:19

you? Yeah, I The

16:21

thought of Michael Carthy's last year with a

16:23

quarterback. That's mad a Lot

16:26

receiver that's mad. You're number one guy on

16:28

defense not not with a D or happy

16:30

or whatever Oh, it's like Michael Carthy's just

16:32

called Bill. I read headlines, too. Yeah, I

16:35

see where bus. Mm-hmm I'm

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out here. We all we used to bore. I'm gone

16:40

I pretty much understand it and that's how it's been

16:42

for like the last three years Yeah for Mike McCarthy

16:44

and then you start thinking about like Bill Belichick is

16:46

the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys That would be

16:48

bananas Jerry Jones and Bill Belichick doing their song and

16:51

dance together. I would be excited to see how that

16:53

goes They've been around the NFL together a very long

16:55

time Everybody automatically assumes Jerry and Bill

16:57

have respect for each other and that's been

16:59

said publicly so much that it hasn't been

17:01

disputed Nope, so I just assume that is

17:03

real as well and could you fathom an

17:06

Organization that is more and we got a chance to experience

17:09

a little bit whenever we're down there for WrestleMania It

17:12

is a buttoned up franchise. I mean we talk about

17:14

like the business the way it is right now all

17:16

the tours through the building And shit, that's

17:19

gonna stop interesting I'm excited to see how

17:21

Bill Belichick handles that with Jerry Jones if

17:23

that was the case But think about the

17:25

combo and I'm assuming we're not the only

17:27

ones having this Mike McCarthy is basically sitting

17:29

there as a lame duck Right now unless

17:31

he wins the Super Bowl that is his

17:33

campaign to remain the Dallas Cowboys head coach

17:35

win the Super Bowl That's fun. Did you

17:37

know who's in this league right now? Who's

17:39

that? Can't see cheese. Yeah,

17:41

can't see cheese. Bingo. So playing football right

17:43

now, you know, and it's like that is

17:45

what Mike McCarthy staring down I wonder if

17:47

he's content with it to already

17:49

has a championship. Yeah, he's already made a

17:51

bunch of money He's been able to reinvent

17:53

himself pretty much down there in Dallas has

17:56

had success in Dallas had a lot of

17:58

success in Green Bay Pittsburgh guys football guy

18:00

has stayed true to himself. I wonder if he's just

18:02

content with, I get whatever happens happens here. I guess

18:04

that's the only mindset he can have in his particular

18:06

case. And probably will get another opportunity. I mean, he's

18:08

not super old. He's not as old as bill is,

18:11

you know, and you look at his like career record.

18:13

I mean, they used to always talk to people. You

18:15

still always give Mike shit, but then they'd put his,

18:18

you know, his wins and losses right up next to

18:20

Sean Payton. And it's like, Oh wow. These are actually

18:22

like pretty much the same guy. They've each won a

18:24

super bowl that, you know, they, they had breeze and

18:26

Rogers and all that kind of stuff. So like, even

18:28

if Mike does get fired and he has to take

18:31

a year off, he's already done that, he went into

18:33

his barn and, you know, got his good publicity up.

18:35

And was it at the top of the Cowboys list

18:37

of candidates? Like he probably will get a head coaching

18:39

job. Absolutely.

18:43

He swindled. They're big time. He

18:45

swindled. Palastera. He told Jerry, remember they got

18:47

a hungover at that press conference announcing him as

18:49

the new head coach. He's right there next to Jerry

18:52

Jones. And, uh, questions asked about

18:54

how much tape he's watched on deck. And he

18:56

said, well, I told Jerry. I watch every single

18:58

play. That's obviously not true.

19:00

Now I got the job. I can say that.

19:02

Uh, so I'm going to dive into that whole

19:04

thing. And then he had Tom Palastera do an

19:06

entire docu-series on the team meeting room in the

19:08

head coaches room that he had in his basement

19:11

because he was still operating every single day as

19:13

if he was a head coach, he had been

19:15

so ingrained in his routine that he couldn't help

19:17

himself, but go down in basement, give a team

19:19

speech to nobody sit down in the film room, build

19:21

up strategy. And then him and the boys would talk

19:23

about how the game went. And then he come

19:25

back upstairs. Hey, babe, I, we did just had another

19:28

day being a head coach and no team. Tom

19:30

Palastera did that. That's a real thing. Oh yeah.

19:32

And then when she saw it, oh shit, this

19:35

guy still got his fast. Locked. Can't

19:37

lose fast ball for still throwing a fast ball. That's

19:39

right. Not even when you don't have a job. And

19:41

then all of a sudden he gets head coach. And

19:43

first thing he says, I watch this. I'm

19:47

like, I love them. I'm a big Mike

19:49

McPherson fan. Need them in the league. But the pressure of

19:51

being a Dallas Cowboys coach is a wild one, especially on

19:53

the last year of your contract. He literally has to win

19:55

a Lombardi. Remember how loud it was

19:57

like when they lost that playoff game last year.

20:00

The tight point, he has the same, basically the same

20:02

exact record as Sean Payton and Mike Tomlin, both,

20:05

and they all three of those have a Super

20:07

Bowl, but he, if he goes 12 and five

20:09

and doesn't go to the NFC Championship, he's done.

20:12

But, you know, Dak could, you

20:14

know, play for 10 million a year

20:16

because Dak said he doesn't care about the money, doesn't play

20:18

for the money, so maybe that'll be me. He needs, he's

20:20

not the, he needs to stop saying that publicly, as soon

20:22

as we heard him, we said that. And

20:25

I'm happy his agent immediately afterwards said to Jerry, he

20:27

doesn't mean that shit. I'm

20:29

the one doing the money talking, not Dak. Dak's

20:32

just doing what he's doing, being in Dallas Cowboys franchise, which is

20:34

what he has done in a fantastic, I think

20:36

fantastic fashion. He was tired of Tony Romo's ass to

20:38

the booth. And then he kind of

20:40

took that thing over, has had no, like aside

20:42

from what, the injury that was bad, and not

20:44

being able to win a Super Bowl, I guess,

20:47

is the whole conversation around him. He's done a

20:49

fantastic job down there with a star in his

20:51

helmet, which is obviously not easy. Joining us now

20:53

is a man who's conquered something that's not easy,

20:55

obviously a Hall of Famer and whatever Hall of

20:57

Fame they have in acting, comedy, life,

20:59

life, everything. I

21:02

couldn't even fathom, I'm

21:04

a young style Ohio man, becoming

21:06

not only a superstar, I'm married with children

21:08

with every single blue collar family on earth

21:10

watch religiously, can still sing the song, can

21:13

still sing the song to this day if

21:15

I had to keep it moving, then what

21:17

does he do? Oh, modern family. Okay, what's

21:19

that greatest sitcom of all time? Okay, we

21:21

go from one to the other. Now, starring

21:23

in a series on Hulu, the

21:26

Sterling Affairs about the story

21:28

of, called Clipped, about

21:31

the Sterling Affairs about Donald Sterling's end

21:33

of his run as the Los Angeles Clippers

21:36

owner, ladies and gentlemen, legend Ed O'Neill.

21:38

Yeah! How

21:41

you doing, pal? Hey, Pat,

21:43

good, I'm just hanging up a phone call here. I

21:45

think he's calling me, hang on. It's okay, answer it

21:47

if you want. You know, you can do whatever you

21:49

need to do. Hey, I'm on

21:51

the phone, Jan, it's fine, thank you. Okay,

21:55

I'm on the phone, where am I talking to you?

21:58

Anyway, Pat, I love your show. I watch

22:00

your show. I think

22:02

you're doing great. I love the wife, Peter. You

22:05

know, we used to wear clothes when I was in high

22:07

school. You know, that was a- Tank top, Ed. Oh, I

22:09

know back in high school. What you used to do back

22:11

in high school. All right, Paul Kai. What you used to

22:13

do in high school, back at Paul Kai. If

22:16

I could do any of that, obviously that'd

22:18

be legendary. I watch your shows too. So the

22:20

fact that you know our show exists is obviously

22:22

a big deal for us. We know you're a

22:24

football guy who's gone on to absolutely crush it.

22:27

Let's start with, you know, Married with

22:30

Children. How many times is that brought

22:32

up in your life? And what are

22:34

your thoughts on that as a whole? Because

22:36

obviously that show viewed through the lens

22:38

of 2024 would be certainly something.

22:41

That would certainly be something. But at the time it

22:43

felt like the entire country was watching that show. Is

22:45

that an accurate depiction of that? And what are your

22:47

thoughts on it? Not at first. You

22:49

know, when we started out, we were, we were, you

22:53

know, we were on stations, ex-religious

22:55

stations, you know,

22:58

in the Ozark Mountains or something. You

23:00

know, the kind of station where you had

23:02

to hold up the antenna wrapped

23:04

in cellophane, you know, to get a good picture.

23:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But after

23:08

about three years or so, it started to

23:10

get more popular. You know, every

23:12

year we thought we were gonna be canceled, you know,

23:14

in the next round. But we kept going and eventually

23:17

we went 11 seasons, which,

23:21

you know, I couldn't believe it. But it

23:23

was, you know, it was a

23:25

great job. You know, before I

23:27

forget, when I was a kid

23:29

in Youngstown, I

23:31

used to feel punts, me and my

23:33

best friend, Alfie Fleming, for Paul

23:35

McGuire. Oh, I know. Remember

23:37

Paul? Yeah, legend. Paul's from Youngstown. He lived

23:40

right up the street from me. And

23:42

he was like one of our idols, you know, because he

23:44

was a big time football player. I think he's big. He

23:47

led the nation in punting. And then

23:49

later he went to the Buffalo Bills and he

23:52

was a linebacker punter for the

23:54

Bills. And I think he led the NFL. I mean, he's got

23:56

the longest pun. I don't know. Maybe you do now.

24:00

started bobbleheads. I don't know if

24:02

that's him or not. There was another point. Paul was

24:04

a real character. I love it. If you

24:06

ever did remember him. Okay, well I can't

24:08

wait to meet him one day. I was going

24:10

to talk about your football. I was going to

24:12

talk about your football run because obviously you had

24:14

a few punts. We've seen you throw the ball.

24:16

Paul Kai and Marywood children. You're natural. You're Steelers.

24:18

Obviously, chitchat about your time with Steelers. Did you

24:20

know you're going to get into acting while you're

24:22

playing football? Were you locker room guy? That's why

24:24

everybody's like, this guy's got jobs. No,

24:27

I mean, I did some in high

24:29

school. I was recruited by a nun to do

24:32

a couple plays and I was recruited

24:34

to be on her oratory team, which

24:36

means on Saturdays you went to various

24:38

high schools and you memorized

24:40

a little story like Gotta Read and

24:42

Digest or something. And then you performed

24:44

it in competition,

24:47

mostly with girls. I was mostly

24:49

competing against girls who would roll

24:51

their pencils down the desk while I was trying to

24:53

make a point or hiking their

24:55

skirts a little bit when I was trying to make

24:57

a doofus. Yeah, we get it.

25:00

Yeah, that happens. That happens to us. Yeah,

25:02

it's not about upstaging. So

25:06

do you still follow football? Are you still a

25:09

football guy? No, I do. I do. And I

25:11

don't, you know, like I don't have a particular

25:13

one. You know, I like the Steelers. Obviously, I

25:16

had a little some I had a cup of coffee with the Steelers is

25:18

what I used to say. But

25:21

I watch it. Of course, I, you know, I

25:24

don't think I watched the Super Bowl. I tune in

25:27

in the fourth quarter if it's close. Because,

25:29

you know, I've seen so many

25:31

screen passes and draws.

25:33

And, you know, I

25:36

just go for the result. Now,

25:39

same thing in basketball, I watch Sports

25:41

Center get the highlights. That's smart play.

25:44

I'll tell you, you need to walk. Hey, you haven't had

25:46

eyes on this Patrick Mahomes character, the way he

25:48

plays the football with Travis Kelsey, who I think

25:50

is going to be dabbling into your world. I

25:52

assume you two will be doing some sort of

25:54

father song. Oh, yeah, I know

25:56

Travis, I did a little video for his birthday

25:59

once. For Eric stone Street

26:01

because you know Eric was in Modern Family He's

26:03

a huge Kansas City fan from there and he

26:06

called me and he wanted me to do a

26:08

thing when When Travis scored the four touchdowns in

26:10

one game and of course, you know, I

26:13

had I was in a trailer at

26:15

the time in that t-shirt and boxer

26:17

shorts Waiting to go

26:19

do a shot and I did the video

26:21

like that Congratulating

26:23

him on beating my record at poke high

26:25

but not really happy about it I've

26:29

come down a peg or two. I'm living in a

26:31

trailer down by the river All

26:34

right, I enjoy that I bet Travis was like

26:36

this is awesome yeah, I'll Bundy just sent me

26:38

a message in a tank top and Boxers,

26:41

let's talk about let's talk about

26:43

Modern Family and the when

26:45

you read that script Do you think yourself? These

26:48

are the most genius writers of all

26:50

it felt like every single line had

26:52

a reason and a potential callback and

26:54

obviously Immense success but when you read

26:56

that script, do you think yourself while these are geniuses

26:58

or how do you get involved with the show to

27:00

begin? With oh, that's what I thought when I got

27:03

the script I mean, I've obviously read a lot of

27:05

scripts in my time But

27:07

this one when I read it, I had actually met

27:09

with those guys a

27:12

year before they wrote it and they pitched

27:14

the idea to me and what I want to

27:16

get on board and I said No, you know, I don't want

27:18

to do another sitcom and They

27:21

said well, would you read it when it's written and they

27:23

sent it to me a year later under a different title

27:26

And then when I read who wrote it, I thought oh, that's

27:28

those guys I met over at Fox So

27:31

I read it once and then I read it again and

27:33

I thought oh my god I'm

27:35

gonna have to do this So

27:38

I called my manager and he said too late They're

27:40

out to Craig T Nelson and

27:43

I said, okay. Well, I told him I wasn't gonna

27:45

do a sitcom So, you know, I'll watch it and

27:48

then a week later they came back And

27:50

my manager said he passed Because

27:53

it was only a pilot. So what

27:55

happens with a guy like Craig, you

27:57

know, he wanted like six shows guaranteed

28:00

you know for like upfront money and

28:03

they said it's only a pilot and what he

28:05

passed bigger and they'd come back to

28:07

him which is the normal

28:09

thing but the one guy wanted me for

28:11

it so they came to me and I

28:14

said make the deal you know

28:16

it's gonna be a hit and my manager

28:18

said you're not the star I

28:21

said no it's an ensemble I like that you

28:23

know it's interesting they're not gonna pay your quote

28:27

I said we'll get even later this is a hit

28:29

show and I've been

28:31

wrong I've been wrong before you know but I

28:33

was not wrong about that one from the jump

28:36

I'll move I was a

28:38

hit good eye now I

28:40

would like to just really quickly do

28:42

be football doofus here quickly you

28:45

saying it's an ensemble team okay

28:47

you saying I'll prove it we'll get

28:49

the next one that's like professional football

28:51

hey you're a football guy Ed

28:54

and I'm happy to hear that in like

28:56

the moment of deciding to become be on

28:58

one of the greatest sitcoms of all time

29:00

yes it was like your Youngstown Ohio roots

29:02

came through yeah we'll figure it out later

29:05

everybody let me tell you a funny story

29:07

it's quick about the Steelers okay when I

29:10

got the cut you know every

29:13

year after that I

29:15

would have a recurring dream at least once or twice

29:17

a year and then what the dream was I'm back

29:19

in La Trobe st. Vincent's College

29:21

on the sidelines in uniform scrimmage

29:23

going on assistant coach comes

29:25

out and says you're in the next series that's

29:27

okay coach and that would

29:30

basically be the dream every year

29:32

the only difference is every year

29:34

I was the age I actually

29:36

was so this went on

29:39

and it ends with you're

29:41

in the next series go ahead O'Neill I

29:43

said hey coach do you know I'm 75 years

29:45

old so you'll be

29:50

alright you look fine go on it I don't

29:52

think so and I walked off the field I

29:54

never had the dream again oh wow oh so

29:57

75 is where it ended they finally got on

29:59

it started The Twenty Three. That's.

30:02

A long time ad says as a

30:04

long time or and your father should

30:06

have been seeing somebody about to this

30:08

list and all I think is just

30:10

as a reward a sauce about I

30:12

think we found your cards potentially from

30:14

the era A it's you're not this

30:16

time every day Know that's not me

30:18

All. That

30:21

is. That. That to play

30:23

for Penn State and he was any

30:25

any any reserve. An outside linebacker

30:27

for the Detroit Lions. Well.

30:29

The player same names are good guys. come

30:31

up there is a you look like i'm

30:34

your O'neill Reddit sea ice as you play

30:36

pro football's it for a minute this or

30:38

know if you raise the what. Are.

30:40

We talking about As you know of

30:42

Penn State isis know moment of that's

30:44

another at O'neill. Y.

30:47

Lo for allegedly upon a bad

30:49

deal to get out there. the

30:51

grill is rather heads around. Sharks

30:53

are probably have you ever in

30:55

any of those dreams. From ah

30:57

twenty five to twenty three to

30:59

seventy five. Or. Whatever was. Did.

31:01

You did you ever go the bathroom and locker

31:04

of you know that's one thing you can pull

31:06

the trigger on and frames and we all know

31:08

that women are things are the bathroom door and

31:10

saw on I don't recall. I know I'm not

31:13

an answer that up. As far this is a

31:15

spotless article which apparently working on right now that

31:17

is getting rave reviews ties a question for you.

31:19

Yeah at what kind of preparation goes into playing

31:21

a guy like Donald Sterling is I assume you

31:24

know not easy to talk to a lot of

31:26

people kind of around him about him. Maybe it

31:28

was on a know like did you basically just

31:30

listen to. Podcasts are like what

31:32

kind of research in preparation goes into

31:34

a role like this when it seems

31:37

like everyone time the only knows one

31:39

thing about this guy in it's what

31:41

the zero Dollars about. Yeah.

31:43

Idol to the i don't do a

31:45

lot a real a research of those

31:47

bigger. Episode in the script with up

31:49

and film as you know, so those waste the

31:51

time. but. I did

31:53

listen to the tapes that were release.

31:56

and i didn't listen to or a couple of

31:58

his interviews to see get an idea of how he

32:01

talked. I didn't want to imitate him

32:03

exactly. I just wanted to get like

32:06

he had a kind of pedantic way

32:09

of speaking with

32:12

ING endings being fully pronounced, which

32:17

most of us don't do. So

32:19

that was basically everything

32:21

was in the script. Gina Welsh wrote a great

32:23

script and it was all there

32:25

for me. In my

32:28

opinion, I thought it was enough. Who

32:32

knows? You just dive into

32:34

this stuff. Hey, is it easy

32:36

playing somebody that's like so kind

32:38

of universally hated? Well,

32:42

I was hesitant about doing the role

32:45

when I was offered it. I

32:47

couldn't imagine anybody

32:50

coming to me for this role. And

32:52

then I kind of said, I think I'm going to

32:54

pass and they told them and then they called me

32:56

and said, would you have lunch

32:58

with Gina, which I did not want to

33:01

do because I know what road that goes

33:03

down. You know, and I but because

33:05

she was affiliated with it, she had

33:07

been a protege of David Milch, who

33:10

I did two series for and I consider

33:12

the greatest writer in television all

33:14

time. So I met

33:16

with her little Italian restaurant and

33:18

I on my way over, I

33:20

was already writing my exit speech,

33:23

you know, smart, trying to be very

33:25

polite because, you know, it was I

33:27

was flattered, honored, honored. Yeah.

33:29

But I halfway through the lunch,

33:32

we were talking about other things. And she said, and

33:34

then she just said, well, I

33:36

really hope you know that that you'll do it. And I said,

33:39

oh, I'm doing it. I thought,

33:41

what did I just say? I

33:44

said, well, we'll have a good time. And

33:46

that was it. Way to go. Way to go.

33:48

Way to go. Well, you did it. Just right

33:50

in the middle. Yeah. All right. I'll do commit

33:52

to something, you know, have no idea what. Yeah,

33:54

go ahead. No idea what I'm going to

33:56

do or how I'm going to do. true

34:00

with that modern family you know I got that

34:02

because right at the last minute yeah because Craig

34:04

P you know past they offered it I took

34:07

it and then I went to the table reading

34:09

and I thought and I saw

34:11

Sofia Bagara and I thought oh this is not

34:13

gonna work you know who's

34:16

gonna believe this oh yeah yeah

34:18

you know what I mean who is

34:20

gonna believe this you know what I did Pat

34:22

I said

34:25

I couldn't figure out how to play it first of all I

34:28

was but it was bothering me and

34:30

I thought well you know I don't know what it's

34:32

like to be my age now which at that time

34:34

was what mid-60s anyway I

34:37

don't remember but I thought

34:39

I don't know how to be this age like I don't know

34:41

what's appropriate I knew how to be 30 right

34:44

and down I knew how to be even 40

34:47

but at this that age I didn't know how to

34:49

even what's appropriate you know

34:52

so I thought well just play that just

34:54

play that play you don't know what the hell's going on yeah

34:58

well that was my my mantra you know like whatever you

35:01

know I don't know

35:08

what seemed to work out now we're in

35:10

a brand new era the writers Pat you

35:12

said it the writers were I

35:15

mean Chris Lloyd and

35:17

Steve Levitan created that show and we

35:19

used to talk about it like it

35:21

was so and it continued almost up

35:24

through the whole run these

35:26

guys were geniuses and you know

35:28

their track record was you know

35:30

Frasier Golden Girls just shoot me

35:33

you know so I knew I was in good

35:35

company with these guys swinging a hot bat

35:37

yeah for their entire life but he was

35:39

little you watch an episode of Modern Family

35:41

and it's like there's no wasted anything

35:44

no wasted words no I'm surprised that

35:46

you got that so well at the

35:48

top you did and that

35:50

it's rare because I've always

35:52

said that show is well

35:55

made it's just beautifully made

35:57

and that was the show runs why

35:59

is that He's a man who has so many

36:01

wasted words. You know, I

36:04

can't help but... Those

36:06

that don't, hey, we're in a new era though.

36:08

We're in a new era. Good content will always

36:10

survive though. And it sounds like you have a

36:12

good gut instinct for what is fantastic, but he's

36:15

very new business wise. I think Deebot's got a

36:17

question for you, Ed. Yeah, for sure. Ed, you've

36:19

been around the game for a long, long time.

36:21

Obviously you spoke about football career, been rookie teammates

36:24

with me, Joe Green. And now I've been on

36:26

TV pretty much from then until now. Obviously a

36:28

completely different era now with the business, obviously

36:30

going from linear, television cable, a lot of

36:32

streaming and things now. Obviously your new thing

36:34

on Hulu. How do you feel about

36:37

that on the business side of it? And how is it for you going

36:39

forward with the streaming era? Well,

36:42

you know, it helps to have

36:44

like good management. And if you have, I have a

36:46

good manager. I've got a good agents with

36:48

Gersh. And, you know, they

36:50

take care of that end of it for the most

36:53

part. And you just sort of, you

36:55

know, the whole thing for me is the script

36:57

good. I don't really think, I mean, I love

37:00

the money. Don't get me wrong. I don't have

37:02

money. But

37:04

primarily it's for me now, because

37:07

I'm in a position where I don't have to, you

37:09

know, go to autograph signing, you know, it's

37:12

the script. So if the

37:14

script, you know, if you like the

37:16

script, you know, then you

37:19

go from there. Tom has

37:21

a question for you. Yeah, and obviously, so

37:23

you were a player, you acted as a

37:25

coach as Kevin O'Shea in one of my

37:27

favorite roles of all time. Yep.

37:30

And now you're playing an owner. Do you have a

37:33

favorite role player, coach, owner, as far

37:35

as on the big screen? You

37:39

mean that I've seen or that I've been in?

37:42

That you've done. No,

37:45

I mean, I liked Little Giants. I thought, you

37:47

know, I liked that movie.

37:49

I thought it was, you know, it was

37:51

nice. It was kind of, I

37:53

liked the relationship with the little girl and I like

37:57

the cast. Yeah,

37:59

Iceberg. Yeah, box, box, box,

38:01

Jesus, come on, it's our childhood, bro.

38:04

Come on, also good to go. So that

38:07

was fun. All these things

38:09

are just like little

38:11

stepping stones, milestones along the way,

38:13

you remember them fondly. Rick Moranis

38:16

played my little brother and

38:19

Rick is a wonderful guy. So

38:22

it's a lot of memories, mostly it's memories about

38:24

who you're working with and

38:27

how much fun you had. That's where

38:29

I met John Madden. I met John

38:31

through Little Giants because he was in the cameo

38:33

on the bus that was trying to find the

38:36

Hall of Fame and they got lost trying

38:38

to find Canton. And they ended up in

38:40

the Midwest where we were. It

38:42

was just cute. And I got to be very

38:45

good friends with his son Mike later

38:49

through a half stance kind

38:51

of thing. And when I

38:53

did a thing called timeline, you

38:56

know that show timeline, it's

38:59

like a little documentary thing. I know

39:01

folks ABC. It

39:03

was about Peyton Manning's comeback after the next

39:05

surgery and I narrated it. What?

39:08

And it was a graphic piece. Yeah,

39:10

it was great. If you haven't seen

39:12

it, you got to see it. It's great. Sounds like

39:15

I should, yeah. How Bundy told you over Peyton Manning. And

39:17

John had watched it and

39:20

I got a call from Mike and he said, my

39:22

dad called me and sent me this timeline

39:24

that you did. It

39:27

was just beautifully written. I narrated

39:29

it. And he said, it's one of

39:31

the best things I ever saw on pro

39:33

football. And I'll say it's funny

39:35

thing about it. I really

39:37

have not missed playing football much ever.

39:42

That's a long story. But when

39:45

I was narrating it, there was a piece near

39:47

the end where Peyton

39:49

is on the field at twilight and

39:52

they're doing that kind of little down the field

39:54

mock with the Mike

39:57

linebackers and he's calling out the Omaha

39:59

stuff. He's got the kid from

40:01

the Patriots that they drafted, they traded for,

40:03

you know, the slot receiver. Walker.

40:06

I forget it. Great guy. Like, the

40:08

element took his place. Walker.

40:11

Yeah. West, West Walker. And

40:14

he's going down and there and the

40:16

piece was, this is the best thing.

40:19

He's the happiest he could

40:21

be right at this time in his life.

40:23

And when I was doing it, I actually

40:25

had a fight back emotion. It came at

40:28

me, the memories of playing

40:30

with your friends and from

40:32

childhood up, I thought, oh my

40:34

God, I'm going to start crying. You know, and

40:36

I didn't, I held it, but it was a really

40:38

a strong emotion.

40:43

Before the business got involved, you know, when

40:45

you were just playing football as a kid,

40:47

that's the sport, you know, with your buddies,

40:49

you know, yeah. We have a great sport, you

40:51

know, the business does get in the way, which

40:53

we're in the middle of right now with OTAs,

40:55

there's people missing, conversations and contracts. There's so much

40:58

bullshit around the NFL, but the sport itself is

41:00

so pure. I'm happy to hear that shows called

41:02

timeline. You said timeline.

41:05

It's Peyton Manning's comeback after

41:08

his next surgery. Can't wait to try to

41:10

watch it. And they

41:12

won the Super Bowl that year. And he broke a

41:14

record for it. He was cut by a colt,

41:16

which the team I was on. Yeah, we get

41:18

it. And we

41:20

understand what happened. Yeah. Okay.

41:23

Yep. And with all these

41:25

successful shows that you've had, obviously,

41:27

Married with Children and, you know,

41:30

Modern Family have withstood the, what

41:32

is it, the tale of time, if you will, when

41:36

shows try and get remade, Jesus, and,

41:38

you know, people reach out to you

41:40

or you see other people getting asked

41:42

for roles similar to that of Modern

41:44

Family or Married with Children, is that

41:46

something that kind of like pisses you

41:48

off or pisses other type of actors

41:50

off? Or is it more so one

41:52

of those things like, oh, okay, you

41:54

think it's that easy to make a

41:56

show this good with that withstands, you

41:58

know, 10. plus years of seasons.

42:00

Is that something that kind of gets to you

42:03

or do you not even consider anything like that?

42:06

I really don't consider it,

42:08

but I don't think they

42:10

really work as well as the

42:12

originals ever. And even like

42:14

these reboots, I'm not really interested in

42:16

reboots or, you know, because you want

42:19

to go forward and you want to do something.

42:21

You know, once you do a show 11 years,

42:23

it's pretty much done. You know, you've

42:25

done it, so move on. Hell

42:29

yeah. Hey, man, Ed. I love everything

42:31

about it. We'll continue to do that

42:33

and we can't wait to watch clipped

42:35

on Hulu available now. How many episodes?

42:38

It's six. Six episodes? Yeah,

42:40

it's six episodes, six one hours.

42:43

Well, for like 52 minutes, 53 minutes.

42:47

You know that I don't know. But I

42:51

can tell you, I worked harder promoting this thing

42:53

than I did shooting it. FX

42:57

is into promotion. Are

42:59

we the last one? We're the last show you have

43:01

to do? Oh, no, we almost. I got Rich Eisen.

43:03

Tell him we love

43:05

Rich. Who's a friend. We love Rich. We

43:08

love Rich. Yeah. And then and

43:10

then I'm doing Edelman's podcast tomorrow.

43:13

Julian. Games with James. He

43:15

went to Kent State, you know, and my sisters

43:18

went there. I live right down the road. Go

43:20

Golden Flashes. I was committed there and then I ended

43:22

up in West Virginia. I had a great night against

43:24

a dog. That's right. I went to West Virginia. Sam

43:26

up. Legend. Absolutely. Oh, by the

43:29

way, I played against West Virginia when

43:31

I was a freshman at OU. You know, I

43:33

went to Ohio University. Then I went to Yomshah

43:35

state. I played for those schools

43:38

and we played West Virginia night game.

43:41

And this is funny. You got a

43:43

minute here. Absolutely. Hey, as many as

43:45

you went down there, we took a

43:47

bus. We took a school bus from

43:50

Ohio University in Athens, Ohio

43:52

down to Parkersburg, West

43:54

Virginia. So we met halfway. Mr. Freshman.

43:57

In those days, you couldn't play varsity if you were

43:59

a freshman. So it was

44:01

our freshman team. We went

44:03

down there and it was still

44:05

light when we arrived in Parkersburg and the bus were

44:08

looking to park the bus and we

44:10

see these little teenage girls, pretty girls

44:12

walking down the street in cheerleader uniforms,

44:15

you know, the pom-poms. And we're all looking out

44:17

the window, you know, yelling at them and bullshit

44:20

like that and they

44:22

had o's, big o's that

44:25

they sewed on their blouses

44:27

because they were going to, they were

44:29

our cheerleaders that they

44:31

gave us for the game because they

44:33

were forward. Oh, see that? Look

44:35

at that. It wasn't even hospitality. Uh-huh.

44:38

When people are on your side. During the game, they

44:40

were on the sidelines and they do their cheers. Go

44:42

Ohio U, go Ohio. And then when we made our

44:44

first side, I was, yes! Oh

44:47

yeah, you had to hold it back. Did you guys lose?

44:49

Did you guys lose or win? We lost.

44:51

We lost. Yeah, it was a close game but they

44:54

had a great running back. Garrett

44:56

something. I think he

44:58

played a bit in the NFL. He

45:01

was a train. He was a tough guy. Yeah.

45:03

Got a lot of this. So are you pal. You're

45:06

an absolute wagon. Anything you do, we'll watch except for

45:08

timeline, I guess. I didn't even know that existed but

45:10

I'm going to watch that. There's a lot of people

45:12

in the timeline saying we maybe need a little Giants

45:14

too even though you hate remakes. That might be a

45:16

good time for this entire thing. We appreciate the hell

45:18

out of you. Good luck on Rich's show. Don't always

45:20

have what's up. Thanks, Pat. Nice

45:22

to meet you. Hey, you too, man. Thanks

45:24

for everything throughout my life. You know, a lot of

45:26

entertainment coming through that mouth of yours, pal.

45:30

My pleasure. Loving man.

45:32

I had on it. How about it? Legend.

45:38

Seriously though, like

45:40

going from married children to little

45:42

Giants to modern family, he's

45:45

been with us the whole time. Yep. Just

45:47

rewatch modern family. Like six months

45:49

ago. So, so smart. Yes. Just

45:51

like literally genius whenever you talk. All those

45:54

ones that go, there is a definite difference

45:56

and it is the writing. Wait till you

45:58

rewatch Married with Children. There's

46:00

people doing that. I don't know how that's gonna... I

46:03

don't know if Arceco necessarily needs to just run episodes

46:06

of Married with Children right now. Thanks to Ed O'Neill

46:08

coming on. Yep, yep. I don't know what he did

46:10

to Iceberg, but... Yeah,

46:13

well, you know, all these things are just kinda

46:15

on your path to where it is.

46:17

I don't remember everything about Little Giant. Iceberg

46:19

was close enough. He's gonna have 11 seasons of

46:22

Married with Children, okay? Modern family,

46:24

I don't know how many that is. Who knows? He did

46:26

like 280 episodes. He's gonna be

46:28

so rich. Oh yeah, and he's gonna make

46:30

money off modern family until he dies.

46:32

That's that Seinfeld money. Now they're rolling

46:34

with it. Yeah, in syndication. It's on

46:37

like four different networks. Well,

46:39

and then it's gonna get four different bundle packages

46:41

as well. Yeah, whatever. Are

46:43

we watching Clif on Hulu? What are we doing?

46:45

Yeah. And we're watching it? I'm

46:48

excited for that. I am. Six episodes, two. Nice, short, and

46:50

sweet, and then there's no, like, season two or anything like

46:52

that, so... Two episodes out today, I

46:54

guess. Of the six, which is smart.

46:57

Yeah. We got one for this for years. Put

46:59

at least two out. Can't just give me one. We're

47:03

in the binging streaming era, and then they're

47:05

all like, okay, so we're

47:07

only getting real hype from one weekend.

47:10

Tiger King got three days, okay?

47:13

Then that ran for another three,

47:15

four months of popularity, and then it kind of

47:17

says, what if we would have only put that

47:19

out one episode a week? And

47:21

then all these streaming companies forgot

47:24

what the main thing was. We're binging these.

47:26

That is literally what it is. So

47:28

we've been calling for, like, hey, we need at least two,

47:31

you need at least two, maybe three per time. If

47:33

you're trying to spread out the pop, completely understand that.

47:36

And now it feels like everybody's kind of doing that. Have

47:38

you seen this Outer Rain show? Oh, yeah.

47:40

No. Buddy. Yeah.

47:44

This is a good one. Outer Rain. What's it on? Amazon,

47:46

I think. Oh, I have seen a trailer for it. I have not

47:48

watched it. But it's two seasons.

47:50

There's two seasons out right now. So you can

47:52

kind of roll right through. It

47:55

is good. This is not classic me type show

47:57

that I would like to say. It's almost like

47:59

a movie. It's really sci-fi western. Yes.

48:02

I love bro. It's awesome. Is that the old guy

48:04

that is in it, the main star? Yeah. Yeah,

48:06

it's the main one. Yeah, he's jocked too. The guy's top

48:08

left. Yeah. Yeah, he's jocked till you

48:11

see him shirtless a couple of different times. He's

48:13

a dawg. He's jocked lad out there on the

48:15

ranch. Current time, future. So

48:17

I don't know. It's

48:19

definitely time. Multiple timelines. There's multiple timelines. I

48:21

don't know when it's supposed to be though,

48:23

because nobody's on their phone. What

48:25

do the guns look like? So I try to, what's

48:27

that? Guns are always a good teller as far as

48:30

what timeline it's in, just because obviously

48:32

the future. Fuck, cowboys, a lot of

48:34

pistol stuff. Yeah. A lot

48:36

of pistol stuff, but like, it's

48:38

good. Yeah. It is a very

48:40

good story. Did you watch the TikTok thing on Netflix?

48:44

That lady from the cult? Yeah. No,

48:46

I saw the thing. I didn't watch it. The first two minutes

48:48

couldn't do it. Okay. Why is that? Uncomfortable?

48:51

I think it is pretty dark, if we're being

48:54

honest here, on what it's about. I think Zito

48:56

watched it. In fact, Austin Eckler's wife is

48:58

the sister of the one that

49:01

got kidnapped. Okay. Well, not kidnapped, sorry.

49:03

Allegedly. Yeah, see, this is what I'm saying.

49:05

Oh, okay. This is exactly what I'm talking about. That's why I

49:07

stopped up too many. Heavy, heavy, allegedly. Yeah,

49:10

absolutely. For this particular program on this particular

49:12

day, yeah, the outer range is 1886 to

49:15

1968. Boom.

49:18

Okay, so it is back in. Wow. Nobody's

49:20

on their phone or anything like that. I mean, clearly.

49:23

But they're not dressed like that, that

49:26

year. Like, their clothes. Are a little more

49:28

modern. Yeah, doesn't feel like that. See, this

49:30

is what's interesting about these shows. You never

49:32

know if they're just gonna mix in, you

49:34

know? But then there's a whole actual.

49:37

Yeah, huge hole. Yeah, that's what I was just

49:39

seeing from that. Hole is a big deal. I

49:41

was gonna say, a pretty central piece. The

49:43

hole is the star of the show. You actually get through some of the

49:45

episodes going, when are you going back to the hole? Really?

49:49

Yeah, when's the hole making another appearance? Okay. Bottomless.

49:54

I don't know. I don't know. That's

49:56

what the preview's telling you. You gotta do what you gotta

49:59

do. There's some baseball news. news coming out and

50:01

obviously anytime we talk baseball it's about

50:03

something that isn't the actual sport of

50:05

baseball. Now other than Paul Skeens and

50:08

Jones who are the hundo boys in

50:10

Pittsburgh who are throwing absolute darts to

50:12

catchers normally baseball topic of conversation is

50:14

something that doesn't involve balls or

50:17

bats or even throwing

50:19

at all. Normally it's the bullshit

50:22

around it. This one whole body

50:24

it's a big one especially with

50:26

what took place with Ipe Mitsu

50:28

Hara the translator of Shohei Otani

50:30

and the mention that there's like

50:32

four other or five other baseball

50:34

guys being investigated for the same

50:36

thing. There is an infielder for

50:38

the Padres named Tukupita

50:42

Marzano. Nailed it.

50:44

Hell yeah. In my head you

50:47

nailed it. Hell yeah. He's been

50:49

banned from baseball. See ya. Gone.

50:51

Pete Rose. According to MLB Marzano

50:53

only a one only 4.3% of the 231 MLB

50:58

related bets that he placed. He also

51:00

was on the Pittsburgh Pirates roster and

51:02

he bet 25 times on

51:05

pirate games and lost all 25

51:07

bets that he had on the Pirates. So

51:11

not only is he a baseball player gambling on

51:13

MLB which is obviously a no no to begin

51:15

with he was gambling on the teams in which

51:17

he was on and he was not winning at

51:19

all. So this guy sucks at gambling and he

51:22

also sucks at keeping a job as a professional

51:24

athlete. This dude's been banned they're saying they're investigating

51:26

others. This is gonna be a thing that's gonna

51:28

take place here in the middle of this transition

51:31

from sports gambling very much

51:33

existing but not being legal kind of

51:35

having to catch a book or somebody

51:37

get caught up with some money and

51:39

then get traced and tracked through different

51:41

notes and penmanship and bank records which

51:43

is what happened to Pete Rose back

51:46

in the day. Now it's all digitally

51:48

tracked with the legalization of sports gambling.

51:50

Now that's good news for people to

51:52

not get in over their skis

51:54

you know because if it's getting tracked they can

51:56

monitor then keep you down but it's terrible for

51:58

these athletes that are trying to gamble. on the

52:00

sport in which they play, which they should not be doing

52:02

anyways because you're gonna ruin the credibility of sport. You can

52:04

do this when you're retired, but it feels like some guys

52:06

just can't get away from it. And obviously this is happening

52:09

in base. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I hate to see

52:11

a guy banned for life, but when something like this is

52:13

something you probably deserve, I think it happened with Porter and

52:15

the NBA, like you get, and I kind

52:17

of do like the part where they always put out

52:20

their bets, how much they want, how much they love.

52:22

Yeah, guys are very good, boy. Same, same. Yeah,

52:24

man, but these leagues, man, they know you don't

52:26

wanna mess with the integrity of the game. That

52:28

was something that they always preached to us even

52:30

before it was legal or all these sports books

52:32

really around. A lot of us, I know at

52:34

least me, I don't think I knew the line

52:36

of probably any game I actually was playing in,

52:39

especially the early part of my career. But this

52:41

is something that we're gonna keep dealing with with

52:43

these leagues, with these players. But players, man, just

52:45

wait. I mean, just wait. You're

52:47

making money, you're living your dream. Like just wait,

52:49

man. And that's better to be there, I promise

52:51

you. Yeah, it'll be there, it'll be better, and

52:54

you'll be the best ever. Yep. Yeah,

52:56

you'll know what you're doing. Whatever you retire, you'll

52:58

know exactly what you're doing in sports gambling. Just

53:00

put it off until then because to your point

53:02

about the integrity of the game, obviously that is

53:05

everything. Everything disappears if there's no integrity of the

53:07

game. If everything becomes the

53:10

Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington

53:12

General, which is what people will think if

53:14

they're betting against their own team and betting for

53:17

their own team and all of this will work,

53:19

they're in this thing together. Everything goes, sports media,

53:21

sports gambling, sports teams, sports leagues, it's all gone.

53:23

And this is a fear that a lot of

53:25

people are talking about whenever sports gambling was becoming

53:28

so prominent. Like, hey, listen, you're gonna lose everything

53:30

if this becomes a real thing. It's taken place

53:32

in the Black Sox back in Chicago. There was

53:34

a Boston team, I think, in basketball that was

53:37

doing, there's been different stories that

53:40

Tim Donahue, the NBA, that

53:42

have almost taken down all these leagues, but now with

53:44

sports gambling becoming as big as it is, it's like

53:46

there's a real fear that that could take place. And

53:48

the people that are involved in the arena, in

53:51

the arena are the ones that can stop it and

53:53

they need to. The NFL

53:55

has had their situation, the NBA has had

53:57

their situation, the MLB is having their situation

53:59

currently. Happened right now and they're gonna have

54:01

to punish very swiftly quickly and heavily So

54:04

this does not become a trend because none of us

54:06

can fucking have it now the bets at this guy

54:08

made Front office sports just put up we were looking

54:10

at that tweet total amount bet on baseball 150 grand

54:12

is it worth it? Super Peter 150

54:14

grand hmm. What's it worth? I bet you win

54:16

the hundred million ball a hundred million dollars You

54:18

know total amount bet on MLB 87,000 average amount

54:20

per bet 378 bucks numbers of MLB bets 231

54:26

bets on Pirates games 25 that was when he was

54:28

on team MLB bets won four point three Percent

54:31

and if that doesn't tell sports gamblers

54:33

like what the likelihood of you being

54:35

a successful sports gambler is Like

54:37

I don't know what else to say. Yeah, it's just on

54:39

the team Professional baseball player has

54:42

only won four point three percent

54:44

of his bets and that has been documented. He's

54:46

been banned They saw this shit. This is what

54:48

he did So anybody that's expecting to be a

54:50

sharp or figure out sports gambling. Yeah, a little

54:52

no shot Kind of kind of how

54:54

it goes you need to know that going in but

54:56

this is a real problem And if they're investigating

54:58

for others is what they say or other guys got

55:00

popped already and I think a couple of them I

55:03

don't know what the transgressions were but a couple guys

55:05

have already been suspended for at least a year But

55:07

the MLB is that like they're thanking the stars

55:10

that this happened with all the show hey stuff.

55:12

It's like all right perfect We'll take some guy

55:14

that no one's heard of will ban them for life

55:16

who gives a shit This will be a good reminder

55:18

to all these guys But I think it also underscores

55:20

like what guys like show hey these guys who are

55:22

making 40 to 50 million dollars

55:24

a year I don't know this for a fact like

55:26

yeah, you might still gamble, but like if those guys

55:29

have gambling problems It's in like casinos. It's stuff like

55:31

that. It's like this guy It

55:33

to 17 career batting average didn't play like was

55:35

never gonna be a star was never gonna make

55:37

a bunch of money So like maybe this is

55:40

his way of getting over but again

55:42

show hey like show hey wasn't like this

55:44

guy's making 70 million dollars a

55:46

year. He's not getting popped over 375

55:49

bucks, you know a baseball game It's um

55:51

you know in the show anything so sad

55:54

because there's gonna be people that didn't touch

55:56

any of the follow-up You know any of

55:58

your investigation and if a being like Yeah,

56:00

this is and then being like yeah, we have records of

56:02

it all and I'll cut it. There's

56:04

still people I think Shohei was for sure. Oh,

56:06

yeah, sure. We'll always think that yeah I did

56:08

it's like well, I don't you show hey Oh

56:10

Tony this guy who we've been told is obsessed

56:12

with baseball loves baseball Once become

56:14

the greatest baseball player of all time. Is

56:17

he gonna fuck it up to gamble on? Does

56:19

you know no, I would say no But

56:22

everybody is hard not to think and more these stories

56:24

come out. They're like, yeah, of course. Mm-hmm Everybody's doing

56:26

well, everybody's doing it. There's gonna be people that believe

56:28

that no matter what and then Shohei I mean

56:30

the thing with Shohei is him yucking it up

56:32

with people in English after the fact I think

56:34

is what people have continued to care like how

56:36

do you get taken advantage of if you do

56:39

the language? Yeah, how come you're making Cameron bring

56:41

class when well, they said that if a was

56:43

acting like he was Shohei. Yes, two people Yeah,

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some Shohei here's my security number. Here's this here's

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this and that's what those are the follow-ups that

56:49

those people never Yeah ever Oh

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your question at O'Neill that segment was the

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best you've ever had that one's up there

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I'm gonna put that in my Hall of

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for till the day I die honestly what

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bums me out is that I asked I?

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I was just I was halfway through

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I said you know what why I'm done with

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that's that lady. Yeah, and those are

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know this was a mission started full what

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year was that 2016 World Cup maybe yeah

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2017 World Cup mm-hmm go to sleep like AR

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no mission complete my friend it looks great

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Did you finish it all the way up? Yeah? This

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is time for the euros this summer pumped about Europe's

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are a big one and TST Oh

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TST starts tomorrow down there in Cary, North

59:42

Carolina. What's this guy's name? Bratz

59:45

Scott Scoot

59:47

with boots. What's this guy's name? Don't remember. I

59:49

googled him. I googled down there Kerry He's been

59:51

a real help David Crots there Abe cross save

59:53

cross been a real help. We appreciate you Dave

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Can't wait to get down there. We were told

59:57

something different than they get heard the

1:00:00

complete opposite day of shout out to Dave we

1:00:02

appreciate you Dave Crots Dave Crots

1:00:04

looking out for Cary, North Carolina more

1:00:07

so than any human in the history

1:00:09

we appreciate you Dave Even Mayor? No

1:00:11

no I don't think so might as well be He's

1:00:14

on his way he's on a fast track it sounds

1:00:16

like maybe Governor this son of a bitch might be

1:00:18

president Dave Crots I think he's in the Ron Swanson

1:00:20

role I think he's got a heavy sword heavy

1:00:23

oh yeah he's got a heavy crown swing with

1:00:25

immunity Oh yeah shout out to Dave Crots we

1:00:27

appreciate you Dave can't wait to get to your

1:00:29

town All right Dave thanks for getting so easy

1:00:31

to get to Cary, North Carolina it's gonna be

1:00:33

awesome can't wait to do the show live from

1:00:36

Cary, North Carolina tomorrow it's gonna be an honor

1:00:38

I think JJ Watts could be stopping by he's

1:00:40

already checked into the TST he

1:00:42

did the entire media day today and they

1:00:44

had him run on the field Oh yeah

1:00:46

kicking balls stopping balls with headers full press

1:00:48

conference photo shoots Yeah he's doing okay He's

1:00:50

gonna run through his legs so that way

1:00:52

Yeah stopping how many balls? He

1:00:55

was just getting warmed up sure he was just getting

1:00:57

warmed up they posted this and obviously JJ doesn't want

1:00:59

the world to see this but you know he's trying

1:01:01

to find a spot on the field where am I

1:01:03

gonna be in the left Hahaha not between the pipes

1:01:06

Yeah I can't be there Yeah I mean he's big

1:01:08

his head is above the crossbar

1:01:10

which is certainly a little bit alarming with

1:01:12

the size of him that we were training

1:01:14

on Yeah News

1:01:16

of circles are gonna be small

1:01:18

Oh that's like a Fisher Price

1:01:20

size That is a small goal

1:01:22

yeah gonna have to be a

1:01:24

real sniper Yeah No JJ's in

1:01:26

there I don't think they're gonna

1:01:28

have JJ in that area But not after that no

1:01:31

way Well JJ you know did make a big stop

1:01:33

on his wife Kay on his Instagram He did, feels

1:01:35

like a tick tack for those soccer situations Yeah here's

1:01:37

him making a big time save because I think as

1:01:39

we've gotten closer to this particular soccer tournament JJ has

1:01:42

had to figure out okay actually what position am I

1:01:44

gonna play and goalie might be

1:01:46

it Look at that big time save now His wife

1:01:48

was incredibly surprised that he was able to stop it

1:01:50

and she didn't put her best stuff forward there She

1:01:52

thought she was gonna get by the big dumb football

1:01:54

guy no problem But I assume the next one she smoked

1:01:56

right by his ear and he said oh wait a second

1:01:59

but it should be fun They get to cross this town,

1:02:01

Terry, North Carolina, tomorrow, and enjoy the hell of this

1:02:03

TST, which could be three days, could be 10 days,

1:02:05

could be two months. Who knows? Down there in Kerry,

1:02:07

North Carolina. It's gonna be a blast. The Conquay Fast,

1:02:09

C-Boys are buzzin'. Oh yeah. Had a meeting last night,

1:02:11

they got a session today, they got a little, we

1:02:14

got a team. Here we go. We got

1:02:16

a team. This guy right here is gonna go

1:02:19

bananas. He's got a left-footed shot that is beautiful.

1:02:21

After seeing how big that goal was next to

1:02:23

JJ Watt, and watching his highlights from last year,

1:02:26

old Breck Shea here, he's got a

1:02:28

red dot somehow with that left foot.

1:02:30

Go! Can't wait to see

1:02:32

that. Jeff Cameron on the other side, two

1:02:34

percent body fat, absolute stallion, and then Mike

1:02:36

Foss right here, the logistical genius. Yep, correct.

1:02:38

Dude, make it to the MLS. Has been

1:02:40

downplaying that this entire time. Played soccer his

1:02:42

whole life, makes it to the MLS, doesn't

1:02:45

have as long of a career as everybody else, so

1:02:47

he's like, I stink, I stink, I stink. This guy's

1:02:49

the one getting the laundry together, setting up the hotels,

1:02:51

setting up the travel, set up the training kit. This

1:02:53

guy, weapon. He's drawing the stairs

1:02:55

to drink. And he's also

1:02:57

the guy who's got three pairs of shin guards on, you

1:02:59

know, for what happened yesterday. I

1:03:02

bet. Senior vice president of ESPN, Mike Foss. We

1:03:04

appreciate the hell out of him. Think about that.

1:03:06

Think about that. I think he'd be platinum or

1:03:08

titanium down there. I

1:03:11

couldn't even fathom. No. Can't

1:03:13

wait to meet all the concave FC boys. Did

1:03:15

I see the reggae rovers were talking trash to

1:03:17

you and JJ Watt? A lot of junk. The

1:03:19

rovers, Mark? I've never felt more, I mean, I

1:03:21

hate to say this, I've been talking a lot

1:03:24

of shit, I know. I've never

1:03:26

felt more confident going into this tournament than I

1:03:28

do right now. That's coach Gumpey. He's got his

1:03:30

kit on, obviously. You look great in the jersey,

1:03:32

Gumps. Yeah, we're ready to go. Absolutely. Why

1:03:34

are you so confident? What's the deal? Our team

1:03:37

has got guys. Yeah, we're stacked. We're loaded. We

1:03:39

got a full bench. We're ready to go. Genuinely

1:03:42

think our team is good, but Mike

1:03:44

Foss and the boys who've been down there, a

1:03:46

lot of media day stuff happening today. So a lot

1:03:48

of people on, JJ Watt went through a full soccer

1:03:50

practice today. Let me

1:03:52

tell you somewhere you're never going to find me for

1:03:55

the rest of my life. A full

1:03:57

soccer practice. He's got to be

1:03:59

exhausted. after what they had him doing today.

1:04:01

Now, let alone playing goalie, that's I think with his,

1:04:03

yeah, I think that's that, yup, he's celebrating his little

1:04:05

thing. We're getting low, we're digging him out. Oh, he

1:04:07

kicked in the head there. That's a big time header

1:04:09

right there, I like that. He also puts him home

1:04:11

in his training. They had him in the middle of

1:04:13

a passing circuit where he was the

1:04:16

middle guy running check, check. That's

1:04:18

fun. Check, check, and

1:04:20

it's like, but that's a lot of,

1:04:22

yeah. Cardio. Sounds like they're messing with the owner

1:04:24

a bit. And what's that? Sounds like they're messing

1:04:26

with the boss a little bit. Let company go.

1:04:29

He barely got visited, Freud on the front of

1:04:31

their tarp. We got dude lights

1:04:33

on in front of our, so I think

1:04:35

probably similar reasons, but shout to Detroit market.

1:04:37

Yeah, love everything about that. Come see our

1:04:40

logo, come see our sign, our Hollywood sign

1:04:42

on your way in. I don't even know

1:04:44

how that happened. Nine year NFL vet, South

1:04:46

Florida man, Florida Panthers fan, Terry

1:04:48

St. Butler. Keep on, deep watching a matter of

1:04:50

moments, we're about to talk to a general manager

1:04:52

who's brought a lot of happiness to your area.

1:04:54

Can't wait. I can't wait either. I'm

1:04:56

excited to hear what the mindset is behind building a

1:04:58

team that goes to back to back Stanley cups. He's

1:05:00

only been there for four years, been up for the

1:05:02

award for best fucking guy in the league three times.

1:05:05

What a weapon. What a dog from Pittsburgh. Joining

1:05:07

us now from an Attic in Ohio, ladies and

1:05:09

gentlemen, AJ Haw. AJ,

1:05:12

I already told the concave FSC boys, a

1:05:14

before that game tomorrow morning at 8 30

1:05:16

a.m. We

1:05:20

like it. We like that. Yes, we do.

1:05:22

Yes, we do. I've been telling myself that since seeing

1:05:24

that it is 8 30 a.m. We do like that.

1:05:26

We can't wait. You're nice and

1:05:28

cool. Yeah, I can say better than playing at 1 p.m.. See,

1:05:31

I'm okay with 1 p.m. I'm all right

1:05:33

with that. He's just a 6 a.m. Wake up

1:05:35

tomorrow morning though. For this thing in the...

1:05:37

You want to play the reggae rovers early.

1:05:40

Whoa. They're used to the heat and humidity and

1:05:42

right South Florida, you know, listen for the good

1:05:44

of the team. Yes. I'm just

1:05:46

talking about me as a human, as a human, I'm

1:05:48

an afternoon workout guy. I am no longer a morning

1:05:50

workout guy, but I've been training early in the morning.

1:05:53

Me and Gumby being in after it every morning. 8

1:05:55

a.m. We've been running sprints of the body. He's obviously

1:05:57

getting used to it. I'm doing no warm up before

1:05:59

the game. You know before the game there's gonna

1:06:01

be a whole organized warm-up or whatever. Don't do it These

1:06:04

sock don't do it runs in everything Secretariat stretch, you

1:06:06

know the old lines at all You know that's how

1:06:09

I get a lot you don't you can go straight

1:06:11

from your truck scoring a goal within

1:06:13

20 seconds So amen and then

1:06:15

maybe point a hamstring too, but I'm trying to do

1:06:17

the whole I'm gonna get loose I'm gonna

1:06:19

do my own but they're gonna have a full-on song and

1:06:21

dance and they're gonna be trying to showcase how good a

1:06:24

shape They're in too. That's the first warm-up for the concave

1:06:26

ass C boys. Yeah, so they're gonna be out the amount

1:06:28

of oh The amount of

1:06:30

walking in running on that field tomorrow morning

1:06:32

I can we need to maybe either show

1:06:34

up later act like we have an injury

1:06:36

early then we cure the injury Wait

1:06:38

for game start so I don't feel it nonetheless can't

1:06:40

wait to get the carrot Crots is down. Yes, sir.

1:06:43

Carry North Carolina Shout

1:06:45

out Dave Crofts AJ. I tell

1:06:47

you what I don't know anything that's going on with

1:06:49

this Dave Crofts situation But it does not sound

1:06:51

as positive as you're trying to make it. Well,

1:06:54

I was miss. Yeah, I certainly said

1:06:56

something Yesterday that was

1:06:58

not you know, taking the same

1:07:00

way I meant it to be yesterday this one

1:07:02

I think everybody's picking up what I'm laying down.

1:07:05

Okay good Yeah, everybody's picking up what I'm laying

1:07:07

down in this thing can't wait to do our

1:07:09

show live from carry, North Carolina tomorrow They've made

1:07:11

it so easy, you know, that is the and

1:07:13

we were the ones who certainly asked to do

1:07:16

this You know, so this is

1:07:18

we can't wait. We're honored and it's gonna be

1:07:21

wait I can't wait to see what happens old

1:07:23

me truck is out there showing up Sounds

1:07:25

like he's a you know, he's the sheriff

1:07:27

in town and you got to ask permission

1:07:29

Bingo. That is exactly that is exactly right

1:07:31

Yeah, it's been in conversation for months now.

1:07:34

Yeah the whole yep This

1:07:37

just got across crosses desk. Mm-hmm.

1:07:39

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, we'll

1:07:41

prove this We

1:07:43

appreciate you cross He'll

1:07:46

get further now if we know cross football. Yeah

1:07:49

cross. I'm gonna figure it out Yeah Now I

1:07:51

don't know if they make cables long enough to

1:07:53

potentially get from where crosses idea of where where

1:07:55

our truck should be versus where the stages here

1:07:57

just in universe, I don't know if they create

1:07:59

that but If somebody has a

1:08:02

couple thousand foot cables that we could use, that

1:08:04

would be just before tomorrow, you know, if you

1:08:06

could get them down to Cary, North Carolina, easy

1:08:08

place to get in and out. Oh yeah. Just

1:08:10

didn't think, thought it was going to be maybe

1:08:12

70 feet. That's why we were

1:08:15

kind of initially months in a conversation.

1:08:17

Somebody has a 2,000 foot cable,

1:08:19

we need 10 of them by tomorrow. Or

1:08:22

a mile or so. Yeah, and maybe Cross

1:08:24

will be able to get his hands

1:08:26

on one of those. It should be great. Should be

1:08:28

absolutely great. Yeah. Tomorrow though, could be

1:08:30

a tone dig show here, live on ESPN, from

1:08:32

noon to 2. With

1:08:35

Tone here in the Thunderdome,

1:08:37

just doing an episode of Hammer Down by

1:08:39

himself. With Mitt McMahon. For two hours. I'm

1:08:41

watching. That's going to be a no. Joining

1:08:45

us now, ladies and gentlemen,

1:08:47

is an absolute legend. And

1:08:50

he just had to listen to us, Barry

1:08:52

Croft seemingly, for the

1:08:54

last few minutes because I apologize that we're

1:08:56

taking up any time of this man's life.

1:08:59

Barry's team now. Back

1:09:01

to back, Stanley Cup finals. Last year, obviously

1:09:03

not able to get the job done. This

1:09:05

year, odds on favor to get it done

1:09:08

against the Edmonton Oilers. Ladies and

1:09:10

gentlemen, the man has been in General Mandra

1:09:12

for the Panthers for four years. Three other

1:09:14

times, he's been up for General Mandra the

1:09:16

goddamn year. Wow. Bill

1:09:18

Zia. Yeah. How

1:09:20

are you? Thanks for having me, guys. Hey, Bill. Glad

1:09:23

to be here. Bill, sorry you had

1:09:25

to hear our banter there about our

1:09:27

show tomorrow in Cary, North Carolina. We're

1:09:29

in a bad spot. Yeah. Well,

1:09:32

Bill, we're in a

1:09:34

bad spot, Bill. We'll figure it out. You're taking down

1:09:36

the road? Yeah, we're going to take it down the road. We need

1:09:38

a couple thousand foot cables. If you can find them down there in

1:09:40

Florida, get it to Cary. They'll probably get them down here. We'll have

1:09:42

you guys come down here. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

1:09:45

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Bill. The

1:09:47

elbow room's already been calling. Okay, so I mean, it has

1:09:49

been a loud call. Bill, let's talk about you. Obviously,

1:09:53

you're a Pittsburgh guy. So we

1:09:55

knew that you would be a hockey guy.

1:09:58

Did you know that as soon as you get to the... Florida Panthers

1:10:00

though, in just a matter of a

1:10:02

few short years, you would have that

1:10:04

entire town being a hockey town and

1:10:06

in back to back Stanley Cup finals.

1:10:08

When you take that job, are there

1:10:10

realistic goals and what are your thoughts

1:10:12

on how success has come so quickly

1:10:14

down there into your tenure? Yeah,

1:10:17

first thing, actually I'm born in Pittsburgh but grew

1:10:20

up Milwaukee. Well, I have to say that. Yeah,

1:10:22

you're born in Pittsburgh. My buddies are getting... Yeah,

1:10:24

we heard of them. They're getting the things, but

1:10:27

lots of roots there. So my dad went to Pitts.

1:10:29

No, not Pittsburgh roots. Sarcos

1:10:31

was here. That guy was here. But Grofsky

1:10:33

was here. So

1:10:36

the makings of a pretty good team and a pretty successful team

1:10:38

were in place and then we

1:10:47

were really fortunate when we started to add...

1:10:49

The first guy was Patrick Horfelk and

1:10:52

he's a culture changer himself. I don't know if you

1:10:54

guys ever spent any time with him, but he's... The

1:10:57

energy and the enthusiasm is most important to

1:11:00

compete. The very

1:11:02

first practice, the practice ended, the

1:11:04

guys, they did a little shooting and skills and then they

1:11:06

got off and he chased everyone down and

1:11:08

got him back out there to work on the ball. It

1:11:11

was a blast and it

1:11:13

was sincere. So whenever

1:11:15

you have that type of culture being built that

1:11:18

quickly, is there a style

1:11:20

of team that you want to have? Like

1:11:22

obviously when we're talking about a team from

1:11:24

South Florida, it's wild to say this, but

1:11:26

you guys are more physical than everybody that

1:11:28

is seemingly on the ice. You guys, your

1:11:31

stars aren't scared to fight. Then you talk

1:11:33

about the skill, same bet, the no look

1:11:35

passes and what Kitchok's able to do. How

1:11:38

do you piece the team together? What are the

1:11:40

core, whenever you're looking for a player, if he

1:11:42

would fit in the Florida Panthers uniform? Is it

1:11:44

just physical, tough? What is it that you're

1:11:46

looking for and how do you get this roster to where it

1:11:48

is? So it's that

1:11:51

combination, right? So you've got the combination

1:11:54

of the skill and the physicality

1:11:57

to compete. And that's really what we were

1:11:59

looking for. We were going to get players who

1:12:01

wanted people who hated or loved. People

1:12:04

who have some extraordinary skill, they

1:12:06

might have some other, they might be skating,

1:12:08

they might be sighs, but whatever it is,

1:12:11

they hate to lose and they want to come in and

1:12:14

they're willing to commit to the team. That

1:12:16

was really the blessing and

1:12:18

it came together because

1:12:20

we got enough of those guys that they would pull it

1:12:22

out of the oven. Go ahead, AJ.

1:12:25

Bill, how do you, I guess, continue to have

1:12:27

success over and over? We always talk about continued

1:12:30

success and consistent success is really difficult, especially at

1:12:32

the pro level. How do you continue that year

1:12:34

after year and are you already looking, you're not

1:12:36

looking past the Stanley Cup finals, but obviously you

1:12:39

know you have a team to run. How

1:12:42

far down the road are you guys already planning? Well,

1:12:45

you know that the postcarding side of things

1:12:47

happens all year long. So evaluating players and

1:12:49

all the what ifs. In fact, the

1:12:52

post-crowds are coming in this weekend. Just

1:12:54

to go through, we're going to have

1:12:56

a short window whenever the season ends

1:12:58

before the draft and the agency. So

1:13:01

putting together all those what ifs and

1:13:04

then having a plan in place for as much

1:13:07

as we can moving forward.

1:13:09

But it's pretty hard right now to focus on

1:13:12

anything other than the series. When

1:13:14

you see this team and you see how

1:13:16

close you guys are and you see the

1:13:18

matchups with Edmonton, vibes

1:13:21

have to be incredibly high. Is there any talking

1:13:23

to the team from you? Do you stay out

1:13:25

of it? Are you saying, hey, we're close? Do

1:13:27

you let Maurice do it? What is your day

1:13:29

to day with the team itself? I'm

1:13:32

around the team a lot and more social, more

1:13:34

of the support. The

1:13:37

support and all handles.

1:13:40

All the coaching. It's

1:13:44

more just being around. What do you guys need? Everything okay?

1:13:46

And then making sure I stay out of the way and

1:13:48

don't mess it up. I love that.

1:13:50

More people need to do that. Not

1:13:54

that you don't have a big brain. But it's

1:13:56

a real thing. You want to have it. This

1:14:00

could help. And then you say, well,

1:14:03

probably a good idea. I'll roll

1:14:05

with it. It's

1:14:08

OK. Leave it alone. Just shut up. Yeah.

1:14:10

Yeah, I enjoy it, especially now with the

1:14:12

run you guys are on. Deebot, massive fan

1:14:14

of the Panthers. Yeah, Bill, long time South

1:14:16

Florida resident. So I appreciate everything you guys

1:14:18

have been putting together down there, what you

1:14:20

guys have been doing. How

1:14:23

has that experience been for you since coming into

1:14:25

town with the fans and the engagements, I guess,

1:14:27

from businesses and the fans down in South Florida

1:14:29

supporting the Panthers in these last few years? Really

1:14:33

special. Well, I came in the middle of COVID.

1:14:35

And then we had our first year. We

1:14:38

did OK. We had a pretty good team. And

1:14:41

the fans, the core fans, so many people

1:14:43

come up. I've been a fan since day

1:14:46

one, and this and that. And then

1:14:48

you'd see them around, and they live and die

1:14:50

for the team. It's a

1:14:52

real, there's a real culture

1:14:54

here amongst pretty considerable

1:14:56

portion of the fans that really are

1:14:58

hockey and Panther fans. It's awesome

1:15:00

to see. The guys are getting

1:15:02

more and more recognized now. I

1:15:05

know you had Matthew, and you think

1:15:08

it's a lot

1:15:10

more recognition for the real stars. And

1:15:13

it's a spot special. It's

1:15:16

a great place that everybody gets along.

1:15:18

They're starting to barbecue before the games

1:15:20

in the parking lot and have

1:15:22

a tailgate. It's

1:15:25

a blast. Do you sell to potential free

1:15:27

agents or somebody like Kichuk told us that

1:15:29

every day there isn't a game, he's on

1:15:31

the beach. It's like not a lot of

1:15:33

places have that option in the NHL. Or

1:15:35

golfing. Or golfing. Yeah, or golfing. Like, are

1:15:37

you talking about that whenever you're trucking or

1:15:39

fishing? I guess. Is that Marlin

1:15:41

yours? I was going to ask. Oh, that's a

1:15:44

snailfish. One of our scouts caught it. And

1:15:46

we're going to have that group. We

1:15:49

had a scouting meeting. And one

1:15:52

of the scouts got a snailfish. But

1:15:54

we're putting it up in one of

1:15:56

the, we have this beautiful new facility. So

1:16:01

we have to put stuff all over the place.

1:16:04

We're going to do that for one of

1:16:06

them a little culture. Yeah, you can't do that

1:16:08

in Pittsburgh. You can't go catch a sailfish in

1:16:11

Pittsburgh. Are you talking

1:16:13

about that with free agents and stuff about what life

1:16:15

is like as a Florida Panther? Not

1:16:17

only are we good, yeah, our team's good, but

1:16:19

also no state income tax and life. You're

1:16:22

going to be on the beach. You're going to be able to

1:16:24

catch a damn sailfish if you want to,

1:16:26

literally out here in the Atlantic. Are

1:16:29

you going to have a conversation in the recruiting process or does that not work

1:16:31

in hockey? No, absolutely. When

1:16:33

I first came, there was this narrative that

1:16:35

there was a country club. Guys

1:16:38

are more worried about golf or what have you.

1:16:40

We figured out pretty quickly that joy

1:16:43

of life. We have so much

1:16:45

of these guys in the facility, in the

1:16:47

practice, in the game. When

1:16:49

you're outside, be happy. Go

1:16:51

get a whole coat of goldfish. Go walk your

1:16:53

dog. Go do things with your kids outside. You're

1:16:57

happy you are. You're going to be prepared. If we get the

1:16:59

right guy, he's going to be a better guy. He's

1:17:02

not going to go water skiing and

1:17:04

front and marathon outside. He's

1:17:06

going to enjoy what he can and then

1:17:09

come inside. But the quality is like pretty

1:17:12

significant. That's just for the

1:17:14

players, but for the families too. And

1:17:17

front office, I assume, and coaching staff,

1:17:19

the entire building. I

1:17:23

might have gone on that fishing trip with the scout.

1:17:25

Oh, yeah. Did you? Yeah, obviously

1:17:27

you're focusing on scouting and next year on the

1:17:29

boat. But also if we're going to pull sail

1:17:31

fishing, let's make sure we're doing it properly. I

1:17:34

got a good eye on it. I couldn't even,

1:17:36

that's a funny thing to think about because the

1:17:38

question is always asked, are you happy

1:17:40

because you win or do you win because you're happy? And

1:17:42

I thought it was a pretty vital point. You said if

1:17:44

you get the right guy, like they're going

1:17:46

to handle themselves as a professional and then being happy

1:17:48

is what leads to winning. I think personally, because you're

1:17:50

going to work harder. You're going to want to keep

1:17:52

this particular gig more. I think all of that kind of feeds

1:17:55

each other. Do you agree, Bill? It

1:17:57

does. And then it becomes a

1:17:59

test. Each supports its own right?

1:18:01

You're content, you're happy, you're in a

1:18:03

good place. Life is good. And

1:18:07

it helps you actually. Then you win and

1:18:09

then life gets a little bit better. More

1:18:11

money. We haven't won yet. So yeah, well

1:18:13

back to Stanley Cup. There's only two teams

1:18:15

left both years in the last two years

1:18:17

and your team has been one of them.

1:18:19

So I would say success, but obviously let's

1:18:21

make sure we get to Stanley Cup. Ty

1:18:24

has a question for you. Bill, how

1:18:26

do you balance being aggressive at the

1:18:28

deadline when you have a Stanley Cup

1:18:30

roster and you're kind of in that,

1:18:32

hey, we got to buy win now

1:18:34

mode, while also not kind of upsetting

1:18:36

the camaraderie and rapport that's already in

1:18:38

a potential Stanley Cup champion locker room?

1:18:42

Yeah, it's a hard one because of exactly what

1:18:44

you just said, right? Or it almost kind of

1:18:46

relates to what I said before. You don't want

1:18:49

to think too much. It ain't

1:18:51

both, don't fix it. Right? We

1:18:53

were, in this instance, we

1:18:55

were fortunate to have a

1:18:58

little bit of a plan ahead of time. So,

1:19:00

okay, what, who, what, how could we might be

1:19:02

out there as if we could get

1:19:05

this kind of like also as an example, who's

1:19:07

a character guy, whether he's dressed or not

1:19:09

dressed, he's in the lineup. He's

1:19:11

guidance, he's support. So

1:19:15

it's important, but it is a fragile

1:19:17

equation because sometimes it's really hard

1:19:19

for guys to come in. They

1:19:21

just, they want to get acclimated and do my

1:19:23

phone. So it's

1:19:27

a little bit of luck to. Well, everything

1:19:30

is a little bit of luck. Seems like it's

1:19:32

going your way down in South Florida. Comman's got

1:19:34

a question for you. Yeah, Bill, before the Panthers

1:19:36

clinch the Eastern Conference Finals, did you tell the

1:19:39

team, like, hey, if any of you guys touch

1:19:41

that trophy, you're off the team immediately. Or is

1:19:43

that just something the team understood going into it?

1:19:45

Like, Hey, we're going after Lord Stanley's. We don't

1:19:48

care about this one at all. Well,

1:19:51

last year they grabbed it and I rather

1:19:53

appreciate it. Thought it was bold. That's awesome.

1:19:56

And then I came down this year and I

1:19:58

didn't know what they were going to do. In fact. someone

1:20:02

had asked me in the media, what do you know what they're gonna

1:20:04

do? I said no I'm gonna ask and

1:20:06

I got out there and then we

1:20:09

think this just tells a little story about our team

1:20:11

and actually about Matthew. So let's use

1:20:14

it like for the picture last

1:20:16

year, the players one. We

1:20:19

just kind of stayed on the bench and went to the locker room. We

1:20:21

were gonna do the same thing and Matthew

1:20:24

turned and Paul said no no

1:20:26

no everything and it

1:20:28

was pretty cool. So then when

1:20:30

we were going back there, they're

1:20:33

screaming don't touch it, don't quit talking. So

1:20:35

that's what I knew. I

1:20:37

like that the team is like hey GM

1:20:40

let's go we're getting head coach let's go

1:20:42

we're getting photo and also don't fucking touch

1:20:45

it. Everybody. Yeah this is Marisa Viola

1:20:47

she came I think the grandkids came.

1:20:50

It was awesome. It was kind of

1:20:53

how it is. Everybody's involved. Chuckie

1:20:56

made sure Bob got up in the picture too because

1:20:58

I think last year he was kind of buried in

1:21:00

the back a little bit. Made sure Bob got up

1:21:02

front center. Bill Daly saying okay none of us are

1:21:04

touching it in a nice shoot. Look at the team.

1:21:06

Hey boys and tight boys

1:21:09

and well. Last question here from AJ

1:21:11

for you Bill. Bill

1:21:13

can you talk a little bit about bringing Kachuck in

1:21:15

and what he's done. Not only for like obviously on

1:21:17

the ice with the boys but also his family. I

1:21:19

know Big Walt is around a lot. Like what has

1:21:21

that done I guess for the whole franchise? It's

1:21:25

great and you can tell just as a family

1:21:27

how much how much how close they are. How

1:21:29

much they love each other. How much

1:21:31

they support each other. Big Walt's around

1:21:33

a lot and

1:21:36

it's been certainly

1:21:38

an essay sort of for everybody on how

1:21:40

to treat people and you

1:21:44

know even Walt like when he comes on a father's

1:21:46

trip and he's gracious and kind and patient

1:21:48

with all the dads and just

1:21:51

it's been wonderful and that sort

1:21:55

of characterizes of the whole

1:21:57

family from through to math and the way he does it.

1:21:59

So I'd like to I just both get

1:22:01

the presence in the moment. They know everybody

1:22:03

getting here. You know, it's just how he

1:22:05

is. They want to include everybody and

1:22:07

want to make sure that everybody has

1:22:09

fun. And I think Matthew, like the

1:22:12

way that happens with our group is now

1:22:14

there's accountability that comes with it. We

1:22:16

all want you to enjoy and have fun, but

1:22:18

you also have to work as hard as me. Work

1:22:21

hard, play hard, two things that have to

1:22:23

go together if you want to have success. Seemingly,

1:22:25

you have found a group of guys that

1:22:27

love both of those things. Congrats on building a

1:22:29

great culture. Congrats on all the success. And

1:22:31

good luck with this Stanley Cup run against

1:22:33

Edmonton. Why don't you trade, Gage, and

1:22:37

throw in some things in the sky here. Kachuck

1:22:39

to the Penguins. Oh.

1:22:42

Pittsburgh Penguins. Trade him to the Pittsburgh Penguins. We'll

1:22:44

take Bob as well. Bob will share. We'll take

1:22:46

Bob as well. Reinhardt, maybe. Yeah, and then if

1:22:48

you could do a three-team trade, if we give

1:22:50

McDavid over to the Penguins, that would help you

1:22:52

right now. So just something to think about, Bill,

1:22:54

if you want to send some players up to

1:22:56

Pittsburgh, we'd be appreciative. Fair

1:22:59

enough. Fair enough. Oh, Bill, you

1:23:01

said earlier I'm Milwaukee. Yeah. Are

1:23:03

you holding good players? Milwaukee. I grew up in

1:23:05

Milwaukee. OK. I was a bad boy

1:23:07

for the Brewers, bro. I'm all Milwaukee. That's

1:23:10

not true. I grew up a Steelers fan, and

1:23:12

I still think I have a Franco's Italian Army

1:23:14

T-shirt in my attic. OK. Wow.

1:23:17

Now we're talking, Bill Zito. All right, I appreciate

1:23:19

you. Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager for the

1:23:21

Florida Panthers, Bill Zito. Yeah, and Bill Zito. I

1:23:24

do like that every GM that comes on, try to tell them,

1:23:26

try to best player to the team that I wouldn't cheer for.

1:23:28

Who would you be if you did it? Share a little. True.

1:23:31

So I give it up, though. Huh? Who you

1:23:33

giving up? Nobody. What are you talking

1:23:35

about? We can't give up anybody. Oh, just bring

1:23:37

the main man. Draft fix. 20-31 first round draft

1:23:39

fix. OK. Just like the. Book

1:23:42

of Suns. The Suns, the Phoenix Suns have. Let's

1:23:44

go for, thank you to Bill Zito for joining

1:23:47

us. All about culture down there at Florida Panthers.

1:23:49

Seems like they got it all. Love that. I

1:23:51

kind of, they're kind of similar to the Miami

1:23:53

Heat. You know, like when you look at like

1:23:55

South Florida teams, tough, physical scrappy, obviously talented. I

1:23:57

think as far as the talent side, the Panthers.

1:24:00

are definitely more talented at this point in the

1:24:02

game, but he panthers, I feel like the coaches

1:24:04

are very similar. Okay,

1:24:11

we have some breaking news out of the NFL. Christian

1:24:14

McCaffrey has signed a two year

1:24:16

extension for 19 million per

1:24:19

year, said sources to Adam Schaeffer. McCaffrey will receive

1:24:21

an extra additional 8 million over what he was

1:24:23

scheduled to make for the first two years while

1:24:25

adding 24 million in guarantees. The

1:24:27

deal was negotiated and confirmed by WME football,

1:24:29

who has been on a couple of different

1:24:31

tweets over the last couple of days, getting

1:24:34

deals done. I believe Justin Jefferson, also WME.

1:24:36

Congrats to Christian McCaffrey. We didn't think about

1:24:38

him. But IYUK, you know, because they

1:24:40

got the Juwan Jennings deal done, we thought IYUK

1:24:42

was potentially gonna be next over there. Instead, it

1:24:44

was Christian McCaffrey needs to get a little bit

1:24:46

more money so that we can pay him a

1:24:48

fair market share for what he does for our

1:24:51

team. Now, obviously you would think like John Lynch,

1:24:53

Kyle Shanahan feel an obligation to take care of

1:24:55

their guy who has been their bell cow since

1:24:57

getting dropped in there. But now this raises so

1:24:59

many more questions. First of all, congratulations to Christian.

1:25:01

We're happy for him, AJ. He's a dynamic player.

1:25:04

He's awesome. Yeah, he is.

1:25:06

But what do we do now, though? What, I mean, it

1:25:09

credits them for getting out in front of it, I think,

1:25:11

because we know how awesome Christian actually is. But they

1:25:13

have a long list, man. This is why I do

1:25:15

not envy GMs and what they have to do and

1:25:17

how you have to kind of manipulate the roster in

1:25:19

the salary cap. 8 million more per year, too. Just

1:25:21

how's that happen? Christian McCaffrey's

1:25:23

people come up and say, hey, just real quick,

1:25:26

we need more money. Yeah. And when

1:25:28

he's like, everybody needs more money. I'll need more. He's

1:25:30

just saying what they're paying me. I'm

1:25:33

not happy about it. Or is this John Lynch

1:25:35

potentially looking at the market and going, hey, we

1:25:37

view you as running back and wide receiver and

1:25:39

weapon with what other people are, this is probably

1:25:42

what you do. And Brock Purdy is still on

1:25:44

a rookie deal. So we're able to do this

1:25:46

now, as opposed to what's about to happen in

1:25:48

the future. I do wonder how this plays. I

1:25:50

know, it is interesting. I don't think any, has

1:25:52

anyone gotten close to Christian McCaffrey? Barkley

1:25:55

just got a new deal, but I don't think he was anywhere near

1:25:57

that. Like to your point, he is, you

1:25:59

know, he can be. He can't be a

1:26:01

running back, he can't be a wide receiver. He means so much

1:26:03

to that team, as dynamic as they

1:26:05

are and as great as Brock Purdy is, it

1:26:07

starts with that run game, C-Mack, and then once

1:26:09

he splits out, he's always a matchup nightmare. So

1:26:12

Christian was at 16 a year, which was the highest paid

1:26:14

running back. Second was Kamara at

1:26:16

15, Jonathan Taylor at 14, so now

1:26:18

he goes to 19, which puts a

1:26:20

decent little gap in there. Yeah, and

1:26:22

will somebody else try to utilize that

1:26:24

as negotiation, or will we see the

1:26:27

same standstill on the running

1:26:29

back market, except for if you're Christian McCaffrey, who is their

1:26:32

weapon. He is there, now granted, got

1:26:34

a lot of explosives outside and

1:26:36

a tight end position, and Brock Purdy's been able

1:26:38

to hit them all perfectly, but all of it

1:26:41

goes because there is a real fear of what

1:26:43

the hell Christian McCaffrey is about to do, and

1:26:45

I guess that's what they're doing, putting her money

1:26:47

where their mouth is. Well, with him, right? This

1:26:49

is kind of all she wrote for Brandon Ayuk,

1:26:51

there's kind of no way that they're bringing him

1:26:53

back, and also goes to the point that they

1:26:55

drafted a first round wide receiver. Brock

1:26:58

Purdy's deal affords you a lot of movement,

1:27:00

and gives you a lot of opportunity, because

1:27:02

he was last pick of

1:27:05

the, so not only rookie contract, worst

1:27:07

rookie contract, that is at the

1:27:10

highest paid position at quarterback, that's normally

1:27:12

eating 20% of salary cap, so

1:27:15

you have a lot of room to wiggle with whenever you

1:27:17

have Brock Purdy at your quarterback, but they're going to have

1:27:19

to do a lot of wiggling. I mean, that is certainly

1:27:21

a wiggle party about to take place in San Fran if

1:27:23

they want to keep the same cast of characters around, maybe

1:27:25

for another Super Bowl run after this year. Well,

1:27:28

if you just look at a guy like Ayuk

1:27:30

in his situation, if there is any kind of

1:27:32

negotiation after something like this happens, you think he's

1:27:35

happy, if he's not

1:27:37

getting exactly what he wants, why wouldn't he

1:27:39

just be like, no, you're

1:27:41

paying all these other guys, we're talking

1:27:43

about what you're going to give Purdy

1:27:45

next year, who after all these guys get paid, he's

1:27:47

probably going to be making over 50 million a year.

1:27:50

It seems like they've kind of already made their bed

1:27:52

and they're okay with losing Ayuk. one

1:28:00

of the teams that did reach out to the Minnesota

1:28:02

Vikings for Justin Jefferson via Adam Scheffer somewhere. I don't

1:28:04

know where he said it but then they said no

1:28:06

immediately which is what Adam Scheffer told us yesterday on

1:28:09

a golf course. He said

1:28:11

a lot of teams reached out to the Minnesota Vikings

1:28:13

about potentially trading Justin Jefferson and those calls were shut

1:28:15

down quickly. He elaborated somewhere that the Colts are on

1:28:17

that list that makes me feel good. Yeah, I like

1:28:19

that too. Yeah, that makes you feel really good. I

1:28:21

liked it that was put out there. That was a

1:28:24

very, I don't know who put it out. I don't

1:28:26

know how it got out but Scheffer said the Colts

1:28:28

were involved. I'm pumped about it. That makes me feel

1:28:30

let's talk about the quarterback or water receiver market

1:28:33

now with Justin Jefferson. Everybody assumed Tyree Kill is

1:28:35

gonna be the most pissed off because that guy

1:28:37

you know is potentially if you're talking best water

1:28:39

receivers especially young water receivers are getting paid right

1:28:42

now Tyree Kill, Justin Jefferson are in the conversation.

1:28:44

Devante Adams, I very much understand there's many other

1:28:46

incredible quarter water receivers including CD Lamb and everything

1:28:48

like that but what Tyree Kill is a little

1:28:51

bit different. He's the one that kind of started

1:28:53

this entire thing about the

1:28:55

wide receiver market is what it is

1:28:57

well he is at OTAs mandatory OTAs.

1:28:59

Mike McDaniel said earlier I just saw a

1:29:02

smiling face out of Tyree Kill even though Drew

1:29:04

Rosenhous has come out and said that they are

1:29:06

in the middle of conversations about what his deal

1:29:08

could potentially look like maybe it's a Christian McCaffrey

1:29:10

type situation where we renegotiate extend add a little

1:29:13

bit of money to make sure you're in a

1:29:15

spot where you feel compensated respectfully and now Tyree

1:29:17

Kill is talking about the state of his quarterback

1:29:19

Tua. Here's a quote from this morning. I'm not

1:29:21

gonna lie Joe Shad reports when I saw Tua

1:29:24

at the Pro Bowl I was kind of scared.

1:29:26

He was fat as shit. She

1:29:28

takes a zempic Tyree Kill questioned after

1:29:30

noting that Tua looks great and is

1:29:32

doing great. Deebuch I'll ask

1:29:34

you this question. Was there ever a worry that

1:29:36

Tua was a little bit too comfortable and what

1:29:38

do you think Tyree Kill was trying to say?

1:29:40

I mean he said it. I mean he's playing

1:29:43

his day but I like I love Tyree here

1:29:45

every since he came over to Miami he spoke

1:29:47

globally about Tua and I think when you speak

1:29:49

like this even in the media it shows that

1:29:51

they have a great rapport great relationship. I was

1:29:53

a little alarmed at a some pictures I saw

1:29:55

from a tour meet and greet from

1:29:57

a couple of days ago unrecognized But

1:30:00

uh, as long as to it shows up sure that deal I

1:30:07

mean he was slim he was Yeah,

1:30:15

so I think what Tyreke is saying last year's

1:30:18

Pro Bowl he was fat as shit Tyreke's

1:30:20

work and now he's in much better

1:30:22

shape So that's why his question And

1:30:24

what Tyreke is doing here is talking

1:30:26

shit while complimenting a person. Yep,

1:30:29

which can happen, you know Something

1:30:35

that can happen believe it or not a photo

1:30:37

of two has just popped up on a screen

1:30:39

here to the right I think from this hey

1:30:41

hairs out Jawline strong new

1:30:43

sleeve to is looking for a new deal to

1:30:45

potentially in here You gotta tell this to a

1:30:47

football man. Yeah, it looks a little different at

1:30:49

the face. We got a sure mean Greek Picture

1:30:52

they gotta pay him man. I'll tell you they're about

1:30:54

to pay him. Okay. Yeah, he's up I

1:30:57

mean Tyreke's gonna need a new deal They let Wilkins

1:30:59

just walk out of that building which nobody's

1:31:01

talking about him and Max Crosby being next

1:31:03

to each other next year for the Raiders

1:31:05

He's absurd to think about Gumpey

1:31:08

whenever you hear this type of rapport from the Dolphins

1:31:10

especially with a couple guys that are potentially up for

1:31:12

contract I don't want to say disputes or Negative

1:31:15

reactions gotta be good about this Dolphins

1:31:17

team member hung 70 on a

1:31:19

team last year Yeah, like I said at the

1:31:21

end of last year I know it didn't end

1:31:23

how we wanted it to but I do love

1:31:25

this team I love the players that we have

1:31:27

we also have 18 more million dollars after the June

1:31:30

1st pass because X is off the Pay

1:31:34

paycheck there. I believe we do have

1:31:36

the meet-and-greet video from Tua at Macy's

1:31:40

What is it he does look different what is pause pause?

1:31:44

Okay, so Collegiate a

1:31:46

man a little bit looks lean. He's definitely

1:31:48

lean. I thought we Know

1:31:51

happy. I thought he might be the guy the right

1:31:53

person. Why do you wear his own Jersey? That's

1:31:56

not him. He's the one on the left

1:32:00

Our quarterback wouldn't do that, Nick. Look at

1:32:02

those teeth. So I do love his teeth

1:32:04

look great. And the other sleeve. Look how

1:32:06

happy he looks. I mean, just everything here,

1:32:09

you know, makes me believe that too is in

1:32:11

a great spot, in a great space. And remember,

1:32:13

I believe what was reported is that they came

1:32:15

back with the conclusion that it wasn't his body

1:32:17

weight that was causing the potential concussions, it was

1:32:20

how he was falling. So whenever he did jujitsu

1:32:22

last off season, they realized that that work that

1:32:24

paid off, you don't have to be 60 to

1:32:26

70 pounds overweight. You actually just need to know

1:32:29

how to fall better. So now we're

1:32:31

talking about potentially an explosive, a more

1:32:33

reactionary to maybe a mobile tour around

1:32:35

the pocket, extending, expending time for those

1:32:37

weapons that they have, waddle and Tyreke.

1:32:39

This could be great news for the

1:32:41

Dolphins with how great to a looks

1:32:43

and how in good shape. I know

1:32:45

who he was in his early days

1:32:47

at Alabama. He was more of a

1:32:49

scramble, fine guys quarterback. And then yeah,

1:32:52

he had those injuries and he put some weight on,

1:32:54

but if he gets back to those, that's a good

1:32:56

looking to him. And nobody's talking about to it to

1:32:59

become the number one scrambling quarterback in the NFL,

1:33:01

but he can move, why not? And if

1:33:03

he can still have that accuracy and able

1:33:05

to do their thing, good luck to the

1:33:07

Dolphins as you got a reborn

1:33:09

to a tongue of the Loa who's still gonna be

1:33:11

able to sling it no matter how thin he is,

1:33:13

you'd hope, you would hope. I always thought if I

1:33:15

lost my ass and I lost a bunch of weight,

1:33:17

I wouldn't be able to kick a ball as far

1:33:19

because that's more of a throwing, I think it's a

1:33:22

little different. I think he's still gonna have the cannon.

1:33:24

I assume he would still have the cannon. He might

1:33:26

be the best version of himself that he's ever been.

1:33:28

And that's certainly a worry for the rest of

1:33:30

the NFL. What are they gonna do on defense

1:33:32

though? What are they gonna do on defense? It's

1:33:34

gonna be ultimately the question. Let's talk about a

1:33:37

scrambling quarterback. Lamar Jackson loses out on $750,000 of

1:33:39

his new five year, 260

1:33:44

million dollar deal with 185 million in guarantees. NFL

1:33:49

and CBS reported that due to the 80%

1:33:51

of off season workouts clause in Lamar Jackson's new

1:33:54

contract that he will not be able to hit

1:33:56

because he's already missed at least 21% of the

1:33:58

off season. He

1:34:00

will miss out on a seven hundred and fifty thousand

1:34:02

dollar bonus. Now obviously seven hundred fifty thousand dollars sounds

1:34:04

like a lot of money. You go into a gas

1:34:06

station, grab a scratch off and hit for seven hundred

1:34:08

fifty thousand dollars. You're going to remember that day for

1:34:10

the rest of your life. Yeah. If you get paid

1:34:12

seven hundred fifty thousand dollars, you're going to be paid

1:34:14

forever. Lamar Jackson obviously knew that

1:34:16

this was a clause and he

1:34:18

decided, well, this money is already out of the contract.

1:34:21

I'm good with my contract being worth

1:34:23

one hundred and eighty four million and

1:34:26

two hundred and fifty thousand in guarantees.

1:34:29

Don't say we love it. You know, you can show up for

1:34:31

eighty percent. You can kind of make that happen. But also if you're

1:34:34

in South Florida and you want to continue to work out with your

1:34:36

guy, you do your thing. I saw a

1:34:38

lot of people judging the fact that he's his own

1:34:40

agent and had this amount of money in there as

1:34:42

the bonus because you could have that down to fifty

1:34:44

thousand, hundred thousand, which some people do. Seven hundred and

1:34:47

fifty thousand pretty significant, but not in the grand scheme

1:34:49

of what his contract is. Yeah, very significant. But I

1:34:51

think when he signed the deal was the richest deal

1:34:53

ever. To your point, I'm sure he

1:34:55

something maybe came up in offseason, maybe just decided

1:34:57

he would rather spend his time training down there.

1:35:00

I know he was one of the quarterbacks as well

1:35:02

who had slimmed up and lost a lot of weight

1:35:05

this offseason as well. So obviously he had a plan.

1:35:07

He had something going on with his trainer down in

1:35:09

South Florida. But don't think it should be an issue

1:35:11

going forward with the Ravens in his office. Seven hundred

1:35:13

fifty thousand dollars stays with

1:35:16

the Baltimore Ravens. Who was saying he should have had an

1:35:18

agent? Mike Florio was talking

1:35:20

about it. Oh, valid. Not

1:35:23

because people have ever lost out on clauses

1:35:25

before. No, that was the first time, right?

1:35:28

That was a classic Florio tweet, though.

1:35:30

Classic. He knew when he had

1:35:32

it in there. He's not going to be at 80 percent. Yeah,

1:35:34

that was already decided upon. I don't know if... They

1:35:36

did. They knew when our first day

1:35:38

of OTAs or whatever they call them

1:35:40

now, they would say, you can miss five

1:35:43

OTAs and still hit 75 or 80

1:35:45

percent, whatever your percentage was to get your bonus.

1:35:48

I do think I remember the math being done

1:35:50

publicly. Now for me, yeah, I got a beer,

1:35:52

dude. So I don't really have the option. I

1:35:56

was making the five hundred dollar check that they

1:35:58

paid during the offseason, which is... why

1:36:00

everybody just assumes that the NFL is very

1:36:02

okay with giving up anything in the off-season

1:36:04

because it costs them nothing and

1:36:07

it pays nothing. So Lamar Jackson

1:36:09

back better than ever but not

1:36:12

80% of the off-season work. Is

1:36:16

he fully committed to the sex?

1:36:21

Second year my offense I don't need

1:36:23

to come this year. Oh Lamar Jackson

1:36:25

does they need to work? All we're

1:36:27

gonna do is that's what journalism what

1:36:29

we just did being negative pricks from

1:36:32

what I've learned that is called journalism what we just

1:36:34

did but maybe the fact is he feels like what's

1:36:36

better for the team and everybody probably feels like hey

1:36:38

you be the best version of you that's going to

1:36:40

help us out a lot. Everybody knows you're the leader

1:36:43

of this team everybody loves you and he's obviously been

1:36:45

there we've seen video of him and Derek Henry connecting

1:36:48

and others it's like I'm excited

1:36:50

to see this Lamar Jackson this year in

1:36:52

this offense with Derek Henry still in the

1:36:54

back I mean with Patrick Ricard. Patrick

1:36:58

Ricard and Derek Henry lined up

1:37:00

behind him I mean it's just like

1:37:02

Andrew's likely has good luck too how

1:37:04

you even supposed to stop that but

1:37:06

is this the difference between Lamar Jackson

1:37:08

and LeBron James would you say? What's

1:37:10

that? You know LeBron would probably be

1:37:12

there for his OTAs his voluntary workouts with

1:37:15

Lamar. Whatever you think about LeBron James you

1:37:17

automatically go outside with Michael Jordan. That's true

1:37:19

is this the we

1:37:22

saw the last day. What show

1:37:24

is this? He never asked. He

1:37:27

says journalism you asshole. Got

1:37:30

to compare it yeah I mean yeah I'm sorry go ahead. You

1:37:32

tell us LJ MJ which one are you taking?

1:37:36

We'll lead the bulk of Ravens this year. I

1:37:39

guess I'm taking Lamar and not a 60 year

1:37:41

old Michael Jordan. We got to talk about it.

1:37:43

I'm sorry did you forget that MJ built a

1:37:45

practice facility on the set of Space Jam did

1:37:47

LeBron did Lamar. Oh well. Is Lamar

1:37:50

even coming to practice? Well we saw

1:37:52

Lamar on that beach remember he missed

1:37:54

that uh that's his he built that he

1:37:56

built that you know because running on sand is a lot harder

1:37:58

than running on wooden floor which makes you wonder does

1:38:00

Michael Jordan I want to work as hard as

1:38:02

the Mar Jackson is training on a beach you

1:38:04