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Hello beautiful people and

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welcome back to glorious carry North

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Carolina at the soccer tournament It

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is concave us balls in Thursday June 6th

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2024 this bargain starts now Buzzing

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after a big-time win last night this

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tournament down here in carry, North Carolina

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He's one of the coolest things I've ever been a

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part of there is a group of humans that have

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gathered on a hill here There

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is a soccer games happening all around

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us and there's a million dollar prize

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at the end that everybody is Battling

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through pain and exhaustion to make it

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to on Monday. Yeah, it is Thursday

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you make it to the championship That's

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not until Monday Speaking of championships the

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NBA Finals tips off tonight as the

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Boston Celtics are six and a half

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point favorites over the Dallas Mavericks They

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are six and a half point favorites like 89

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percent of the bets have been on the Dallas

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Mavericks Are Luca and Kyrie

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a more desirable duo or is

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Jalen Tatum and Brown gonna be

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the guys that finally rise up

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after coach? Joe Missoula was called

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a fucking genius by LeBron James

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on his mind the game podcast Speaking of

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the mind game podcast one of the co-hosts

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of that show JJ Ruddick He was gonna

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be the next head coach of the Los

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Angeles Lakers We had shams on yesterday and

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shams said nothing has changed since May 24th.

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He is the front-runner considered the front-runner He

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wouldn't go as far enough to say JJ

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Ruddick's gonna be the Lakers head coach But

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he certainly said it's a front-runner and all

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eyes are on him that ain't the same

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story starting this morning Whoa, jwoke up this

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morning with a big old bomb in his

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phone Dan Hurley head coach to

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the Yukon Huskies back to back national champions He

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is the man that is potentially gonna be the

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next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers I

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believe Oriema the head coach of the women's basketball

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team up in Yukon actually talked to Dan Hurley

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the last night I don't know if he knew

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that this was coming or didn't know this This

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was coming but he told Dan Patrick this morning

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like you won a lot of championships out there

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in LA Yeah, they spend money. They got this

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an hour power. They're able to do it He's

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Dan Hurley gonna be able to make the adjustment

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from college ball to the NBA with LeBron with

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that entire team We shall see what's the contract

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look like? We'll dive into all of it and

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his Dan Hurley the man who wore the same

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Underwear through the last NCAA

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title in this NCAA title

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Is he gonna be an NBA guy? Will

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the NBA be able to handle a man

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with his character his moxie the way he

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goes about doing his business We

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shall see for the next two months before

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they probably make this thing official. I'm not

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the only one here There's a lot to

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chitchat about the toxic tables here at Boston

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calling it at Thai Schmidt con man He's

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got booed a little bit. I see you

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with that Celtic shirt and the America hat

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on this lore Lovely D-Day

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which isn't you know, I don't

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know if it's a celebration or a reminder of what

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could happen But today could be a

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big day for the Boston folks gun. Yeah huge day for

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the Boston folks And I you know you celebration reminder.

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I think it is celebrate I think so too because

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the fact that you know everything that happened, but as

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far as the Celtics go couldn't feel more confident I

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feel very very good going into it I don't know

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if you saw the promo videos Tom Brady Returned

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to the Celtics to do a nice little

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promo montage height video. Also Patrick Mahomes did

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the Dallas Maverick Mavericks when a lot of

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people are saying Dak Prescott probably leaving the

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Cowboys because the fact that he wasn't I

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haven't seen That court side of being the

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math. Yeah. No, he hasn't in the Kansas

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City Chiefs quarterback is but that's neither here

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nor there Well, he's focused on football trying to win a

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chair And

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then Kelsey's there too with Hollywood Brian who hasn't

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even played snap as the Chiefs Well,

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I think we're she writes is there too, but

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we need yeah, he shouldn't be at the games

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Yeah, he needs to get back to Kansas City

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Immediately, although if he wants to be

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there for maybe game three game four mix it up

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a little bit cause some cause some drama That might

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help the Boston Celtics actually so he could stay if

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he wants and a half point favorites at home Is this normal

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for the Boston Celtics? Is this a big spread? I don't think

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I know enough about it. No, I mean for the playoffs this

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is low. I think our lowest spread at home in the playoffs

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was the Pacers at 8.5 or 9.5, so 6.5 is low, but

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that's way too many points. I mean this is

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one of those games, especially when you look at

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how the Pacers came out in the Eastern Conference

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Finals in Boston where they should have won, wham,

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who cares, should have won those still in game

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one. That was a 13.5 point

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spread, 12 point spread, but I would probably lean

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towards the 6.5 points with

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Dallas if I was betting. Now game as

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a total, you're taking Tatum to score 40.

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You're taking Jalen Brown to score 40. You're

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taking Luca to score 35. Bingo,

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you're taking Kyrie to score 30. That's the biggest

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worry is that everything with Kyrie is that he

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is in a very, very good spot. We'll

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see what happens when you know Tommy from Watertown and

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Jimmy from Quincy are in his year screaming at him,

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but I feel very confident as a Celtics fan, all

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Celtics fans should, but it's going to be a long

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series, six or seven games. 8.30 on ABC. That

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tips off a man who's

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a college football national champion, a Super

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Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner in

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soccer aficionado. Now in the Hawks, that's

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AJ Hawkins. Okay. I

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love that. We

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don't have any cameras on them once again, because going

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into this, we had no idea that people would actually

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show up. We appreciate you guys immensely. The

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city of carry North Carolina just continues. I'm

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unreal. This place is awesome. Yeah, it is.

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But the home of USA baseball is just

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like right up the road. They brought us

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a bunch of hats. Then obviously I think

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the ACC championships are happening. Like everything seemingly

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happens in this city for good reason. Great

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logistics, great organization, great

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hospitality. Thank you to

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carry North Carolina for AJ Hawker. Now

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obviously the NBA finals tipping off is

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a sign of things to cut. You

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know, whenever the finals are tipping off,

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that means the finals are potentially over.

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Now this is going to be a long series

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and everybody's eyes, which is great news. The NHL

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final, Stanley Cup finals, obviously starting soon as well.

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How do you feel about the state of sports?

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AJ and are you now a big soccer? guy

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because of your time down here in Cary. I

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tell you what, your team, Concafo, is making me

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a big fan of soccer. I'm a fan of

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how you guys played amazing last night. Obviously, a

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beautiful assist by you to grow. Thank you, thank

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you. Beautiful whatever you want to call it. That

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was awesome. But no, tonight for Boston, for

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Connor and the rest of the Boston fans, this

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is kind of a weird time because you're expected

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to win. It's like, hey, yeah, you win the

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championship. Cool, yeah, you were supposed to. If you

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lose, colossal meltdown, do we have to blow the

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team up? You guys are in a weird spot.

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Oh, yeah, that's brutal. It is actually the worst

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spot I think you could be in in all

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of sports, really, when you like, even for the

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Chiefs. Sure, they went into it. They're supposed to

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win the Super Bowl, but that's a completely different

6:39

conversation. The Celtics have just dominated the entire year.

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So it is a situation where if they don't

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win, it is an absolute world

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exploder in Boston if the Celtics don't get

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it done. Okay, let's talk about this Dan

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Hurley news to the Lakers. Literally,

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just yesterday, Shams told us it was going to

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be a judge. Yeah, you're going in. What's that

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about? I don't know.

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Shams might not know shit is what we were

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talking about earlier. Are they

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actively working against Shams like the rest of the media?

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Yeah, they may be using Shams as a puppet.

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Hey, let's get this out here. Kind of everyone's

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looking this way and then we're going to slip in the

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back door and we're going to go make sure that Dan

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Hurley is going to be our next. I think JJ Riddick

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was on maybe with Levittard. I forget what he was yesterday.

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I think he was on yesterday. And he

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said something about as the Shams news, we'll

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talk about that after the finals or whatever and then just

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kept the conversation moving. But he said it was like, almost

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basketball. Dan Hurley, though, as the

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Lakers head coach, I don't think any of us thought

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of this because I just view him as like a

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college ball guy. He'd be able to make the transition

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right as I'm talking to people that aren't really basketball

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people. They are opinion matters. Dan Hurley

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feels like a guy who could reach people and coach people

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no matter where they are. I

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don't know the NBA culture well enough. I don't know what

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Dan Hurley does and how he does. I just assume the

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guy is going to be able to coach wherever the hell

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he wants and have success wherever he wants. I don't know

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if that's the right way to look at it, but that's

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how I view it all. No, I think that's the assumption.

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I mean, he's arguably, if not the

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best coach. coach in college basketball. I think he is,

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right? I mean, that's not even like it. Well, I

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mean, guys like Patino are still there. So you know,

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you have some of the old guard still. But in

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terms of like guys right now, absolutely. I just think

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it's tough. He seems like the

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kind of guy where like if he were to go

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to a different team with a bunch of young guys

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where he can kind of like mold everything and do

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it that way, like I just, the

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LeBron aspect of it makes it tough because it

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seems like LeBron's going to kind of butt heads

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with whoever his head coach is going to be

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because he's obviously played for so long. He's got

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all of his opinions. So like, and

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with how fiery of a guy Hurley is, like, I

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don't know if that would necessarily work. But in terms of

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just like, could this guy go win in the NBA? I

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think it's a no brainer. We'll be talking. We'll be talking

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to Chris Paul today in the second hour. He'll

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be here live. I mean, perfect day

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for Chris Paul to stop by with the NBA finals

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tipping off. He'll give us a lot of game on

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that. And also like how players will respond to a

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Dan Hurley style coach. He's front of the program. I

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think he's awesome. Yeah. I love everything. I love his

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moxie. I love his attitude. I love how he doesn't

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give a shit. Like he is going to be himself.

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Mm hmm. Not bad for LA, right?

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Los Angeles feels like he'd be just like JJ Rettick

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would have been perfect for LA because he talks, he

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has personality, and does his thing, and he knows ball.

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It's like Dan Hurley going out there is going to

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be must watch. If he has success there, think of

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all the movie people that are like, we need to

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make character. Yeah. After Dan Hurley. Some stats here on

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this particular graphic. Shout out to Derek for putting it

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together. He signed a six year, $32 million

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extension with UConn last year. Right? Yeah. So

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that's like five point something a year. He

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could potentially be pulling in $14,000,000, $15 million

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in the NBA. He could certainly ask for that

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if he wanted to. The pedigree that he has.

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His teams have been dominant. They've had no let

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up. Why not Dan Hurley for the Lakers? I

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was very intrigued with JJ Rettick. But then as

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I think about Dan Hurley making it, it's like.

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Why are we just hearing about it too? Obviously,

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they've been talking to him, and they know

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that he is willing and probably to come do this. But

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why are we just hearing about it? So I don't know.

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But allegedly, Dan Hurley, it might have been with the team,

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like the UConn team didn't want to get out. Oh,

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yeah. Right down. Yeah, when you're leaving a basketball program,

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you get all these recruits. You have everybody that. that

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it is a weird spot for Hurley even. It's

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like bittersweet, yeah, I get to go coach the

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Lakers, hopefully you get paid a ton of money,

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but you're leaving where you built this monster in

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Yukon. A machine, it seemingly was a machine. The

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next seven foot tall athletic guys coming in here,

10:13

like Cling Kong had, and then we're just gonna

10:15

keep doing this thing, and he had it kind

10:17

of ready to go, which is not easy to

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do. In the modern world with NIL, with transfer,

10:21

with everything, not easy to do, seemingly had it

10:23

figured out. So I would assume they were trying

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to keep it as quiet as possible for the

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good of the team. Allegedly, Fox

10:29

Sports is reporting that he had a meeting with

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the team this morning and told him, like, very real,

10:33

I am talking to him, trying to be as transparent

10:35

as possible, but like, that's a tough spot whenever you're

10:38

telling kids when you're recruiting them. And this is why

10:40

when college coaches leave jobs and go other places, you

10:42

know, we talk about it, we're like, oh, this team

10:44

got better, this team got better, because they got this

10:46

coach, it's like, there's probably a lot of uncomfortable moments

10:48

with a coach because they went into family's

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houses. And said like, hey, come to

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my school, I will help become boy

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to man, make NBA, this is how we run

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things. And then all of a sudden it's like,

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well, actually, with that being said, there's

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like a $10 million more per year job that I'm gonna

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go get, and that's a lesson for you guys. You

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guys, if you guys ever get this opportunity, you should

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think about doing it as well. I assume that's why

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it was so quiet out here. And what's kind of

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awesome for LA, it's like, hey, you get the number

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one college football coach and college basketball coach now, like

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Harbaugh and Hurley all of a sudden kind of run

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LA together. And they're almost like- And

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McBay looks like he's in college. Yeah,

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McBay is still a college guy, and

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the Clippers, Ty Lue, still a college

11:28

guy, you could say, it's

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kind of great times for LA, no matter

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what team you root for. Yeah, I'm pumped

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about that. There's so much to

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chat about on this glorious sports day. I

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think every team now is in OTAs. Is

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that what- I think so. I

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believe so. I believe every team, congrats to the NFL.

11:45

Yeah, they made it. We

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did it. Sad news, not good news.

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Kansas City Chiefs had to cancel their day to

11:52

day because there was a medical emergency with somebody

11:55

on the team. Have we learned any

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more about that? Yeah, so allegedly it was during a special

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teams meeting, one of- Yeah,

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especially whenever they get to the point because those things

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are going 40 mile an hour. Right. Bingo. Those things

14:04

are flying around. That little hole, the donut one, right,

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is probably what they're going to have these kickers. Yeah,

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you dive and do like the Gator roll tackle on

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the donut. That's the last thing we need to hear.

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But would you, boy, those are the others. We do

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not need to hear guys getting hurt tackling. Those clips.

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A couple broken legs. You can. You can get hurt

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doing that. The clips. You drop your head. You get,

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oh, yeah. Yeah, landing, too. I mean, there's like potential

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because some of these no offense kickers.

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No offense. OK, I love you

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guys. Punters much more athletic than all

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of you. You know that. But like

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when it comes to kickers and everything like that,

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I don't know how like how much are they ever

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ever on your shoulder? You're right. Falling on

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your shoulder, whatever group. Like that's an actual

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fear of mine for all these guys, because

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they're certainly going to have them do tackling

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drills. That is certainly some of them have

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never done a tackling drill before in their

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life. Entire life. Yeah. So my rookie year

14:52

training camp, Ray Richlesky was

14:54

our special teams coordinator. He

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hilarious human being. He was in college for a long

14:58

time. Gets into the NFL. I think he's still coaching

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college. He did not want me to be the partner

15:03

for the team. He wanted Tim Maste and Thomas Morrston.

15:05

He was very open about that as well, like during

15:07

my workout, during the whole pre draft process. But then

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once I get there, like we

15:11

became cool with each other. But he was like a

15:13

hard nosed guy. You know, like that is so rookie

15:15

training camp. He's got me and Tim Maste doing tackling

15:17

drills. And I've been doing them West

15:19

Virginia tackling each other. Are you are you run the

15:21

ball and Tim's tackling you and then flip it? No,

15:23

they got like third four string linebackers like doing like

15:26

jumping up and we're like tackling them. So I was

15:28

like very comfortable with it. I was like kind of

15:30

enjoying it almost like something to do. I suppose just

15:32

stand here, you know, makers like there's nothing else going

15:34

on. Tim Maste also very athletic. He was good with

15:37

it. But those drills can go side. You can look

15:39

like a doofus in those drills like very, very quick.

15:41

Like you're not a professional real quick. He's like, this

15:43

is pro. This is the NFL football. And you see

15:45

some guys, you know, tripping over their feet and over

15:47

their shoelaces, trying to make a tackle and then dislocate

15:50

the shoulder with no pads. And we got cameras on

15:52

everything. I am not happy about the state of where

15:54

kickers are going to look in training camp and OTAs.

15:56

But do it inside like free practice where you can

15:58

do like in your indoor facility. or whatever, that's how

16:00

you stretch eight kickers and punters. Let's

16:02

get the embarrassing stuff out of the way here. Let's

16:05

make our mistakes indoors. And we're saying this obviously because

16:07

the kickoff coverage rule is different now. And if a

16:09

returner breaks through that first line, it's pretty much kicker

16:11

or nothing. Not that it hasn't been like that forever,

16:13

but these are things that all these teams are going

16:15

to have to think about. And I'm worried about the

16:17

embarrassment that could come alongside of it. There

16:20

is a storyline brewing

16:22

here in Cary, North Carolina. And

16:26

that's that, there's a team. As

16:31

a massive goal as well. Against the reigning champions,

16:33

Newtown is in the green here. They won the

16:35

million dollars last year. Our guy,

16:37

if you've been watching, the target

16:39

score game winner, the goalie that we put in

16:41

at the end, massive

16:44

leg, great mullet. Stefano

16:46

Vich. Me.

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He was on this Newtown team last year. So

16:52

he was champion with this team last year. He's

16:54

now on our team. He talked about how last

16:56

year they lost their first game too. Gave him

16:58

nice little, gave him nice little. Nice

17:00

little speech for what happened with us with the

17:02

reggae rollovers yesterday morning where we lose. This

17:04

dude's an absolute beast, but this Newtown team buzzes

17:07

and they play like all year round. A lot

17:09

of these teams have a lot of chemistry. A

17:11

lot of these teams have a lot of like

17:13

even plays, counter attacks, and they're taking a million

17:16

dollars on the line, that's a lot of money

17:18

to potentially win. Our team needed to get our

17:20

ass beat yesterday morning and then last night came

17:22

out, new formation, new style. New team looked like.

17:25

They really did. And that Cincinnati

17:27

team just, bad timing.

17:30

If they would have had his first game in the morning, I

17:32

think it's very different. Second game, boys were pissed, boys were buzzing,

17:34

we were doing our thing. And there was a guy that was

17:36

pretty prevalent in the middle of the field. And

17:38

he had gold shoes on and

17:41

he's a paison. And those were Diodorus, so

17:43

he had the Italian flag on the gold

17:45

shoes. I got a chance to play soccer with him in

17:47

like 2003. And whenever

17:50

I was like kind of introduced

17:52

to this guy, because he was from New

17:54

York and I was from Pennsylvania, so the

17:56

way the regions work, they were

17:58

telling me like, hey, you get to go play

18:00

with. Grella you get to go play with Grella

18:02

and he was like this mysterious figure pretty much

18:04

same age basically 87 we're

18:06

both born in and then I got to go

18:08

play with him and it all made sense like

18:10

the smoothest dude of all time Filthy at soccer

18:13

fluent in Italian by coolest guy of all time.

18:15

He would go on to play Professionally

18:17

for a long time. They get some injuries that

18:19

kind of railroaded some stuff But now he

18:22

is the glue that's holding concave a

18:24

SC together He's also the guy that

18:26

made me look phenomenal last night He

18:28

decides to do a ridiculous volley to

18:31

put that thing home ladies

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and gentlemen friend

18:35

of the program Absolute

18:38

stallion super pies

18:40

on Michael Grella Great

18:49

shirt super cool Wow Wow Grella

18:52

babe we got the headset for you there Thank

18:55

you for joining us Hey,

18:59

well excited to be here man. Hey real quick.

19:01

Yo Just thank you for doing

19:03

what you do last night. I Write

19:06

your space in the wrong way right here space the wrong way It

19:13

did look cool it's like you turn it down there we go That

19:21

was good. It was your pass though. It was

19:23

good Yeah, all anybody said was I was on

19:25

a way out walking out of here They're like

19:27

what an assist what an assistant I saw a

19:29

social media McAfee with an assist I felt so

19:31

terrible because what you did with that ball is

19:34

so no no If people don't know that you you

19:36

played that that's the thing about him They thought there

19:38

was this surprise that the way that you can move

19:40

the way you can play You

19:42

did celebrate the assist like it was your goal

19:44

bingo, which I didn't I didn't a hundred percent

19:46

like but I came over to you

19:48

like got to you. Yeah, you got to be yeah I

19:50

got you I'm telling you we got a bunch of X

19:52

pros bunch of X indoor guys or you know indoor guys

19:55

now All talented group. I don't

19:57

know many guys that could have played that ball.

19:59

It was like a chop down on the back

20:01

of the ball, ball floated forever, made it easy

20:03

for me. Yeah, it did on purpose, too. Of

20:05

course. Yeah, certainly. Certainly. It was incredible. You literally,

20:07

you scream, Pat, and I hear you, and I

20:09

see those gold cleats kind of running. And

20:11

I'm like, all right, here we go. We're going to try this.

20:13

Because if you remember my first touch last night, I spiked the

20:15

ball into the ground, almost fell on my face. I

20:18

had this great plan. Ball came into me. I was going

20:20

to outside of the foot, pass it, and then I was

20:22

going to peel. Old buddy was going

20:24

to put me through. Like, I was going to outrun anybody.

20:26

Not legit. And instead, I hit the ball into the

20:28

ground, almost fall on my face, almost a

20:31

counter attack. We lose. That was almost

20:33

a problem. MCL, ACL was in trouble. Yeah, that is

20:35

exactly the case. So I appreciate that that moment happened.

20:37

That's why I was celebrating. And there was a chance

20:39

I was going to act like I tore my hamstring

20:41

going out, too, so I didn't have to play the

20:43

rest of it. But I'm having so much fun. I'm

20:45

really having so much fun out here. You obviously work

20:47

for CVS, still cover the game. That's right. In a

20:49

very massive way alongside coach Tony Miola. How often do

20:51

you get to play? And when you're out here, does

20:53

it feel like the old days, whenever you're playing out

20:55

here? I thought we played. You got to move that

20:57

much to you. The wind is going to have to.

20:59

Yeah, yeah, got you. We play. I play once

21:01

a month back home. I got three little kids

21:03

now, so I spent a lot of time with

21:05

them. But I only play like once a month

21:07

and try to try to keep somewhat fit. Knowing

21:10

that I was going to come down here, obviously played a little

21:13

bit more and worked on a little bit more. But it's

21:15

not not something I spent a lot of time

21:17

on anymore, you know? Yeah, remedial. Yeah,

21:20

no. And

21:22

now I feel it like this morning. I really

21:24

feel it like I'm dead. Okay, we got IVs

21:26

coming. And also, we got a little cold club

21:29

here in a matter of moments. Pondman's got a

21:31

question for you. Hey, I want to let you know,

21:34

the boys have become big Grella fans. Oh, yeah. Now,

21:36

I know I was getting all the credit last night.

21:38

Mutual, it's mutual, boys. Okay, sweet. I know I was

21:40

getting all the credit last night, but I hope you

21:42

did see the reaction from like the actual world where

21:44

they were like, what the fuck was

21:46

that finish? Like that was, so as you're running at

21:48

that, you're thinking to yourself, I'm going to make this

21:50

look as filthy as possible. Is that literally going through

21:52

your head? No, you know what? It's the Paulo Di

21:55

Cagno. I don't know if you remember him. But it's

21:57

that that's sort of volley, scissor kick or whatever you

21:59

want to call. But by getting up there, I

22:01

think you make you make where the ball is like

22:03

level ground I think that's the science behind

22:05

it. I'm not sure I mean something I've done forever,

22:08

you know and seen the gun you do it

22:10

So it becomes quite naturally. I think it's

22:12

easier to hit it that way than it is any other

22:14

way So and to be clear I try to come celebrate

22:16

with you every stopping me. Yeah, I know it took you

22:18

long It took you long. I was when you guys subbed

22:21

out of the guns first. I subbed out immediately You know,

22:23

did you see that at the end of the video as

22:25

soon as I like, all right, I'm exhausted That was a

22:27

lot of celebrating. I'm out of here I think I'm gonna

22:29

be done with it But like I

22:31

couldn't even fathom attempting to do what you did

22:33

last night because everything in my body would rip

22:35

Look at the guns Real

22:38

good about as it was flying in here. I was like,

22:40

oh shit. Yeah, I actually work you couldn't believe it I

22:42

actually at the end of the celebration. I grabbed him and

22:44

I slapped him around Like

22:46

this, you know, make sure you know what's going on cuz

22:48

you you looked a little confused at first Yeah, I know

22:50

what happened. I got a text from Shane Gillis last night.

22:53

That was like Dude this is

22:55

actually good And I was like

22:57

so lucky so many things had to come together

22:59

for that He was like it looked like an

23:01

EPO player dude, and I was like

23:03

thanks. I don't think that's a good play It's like

23:05

it's a it's a really good place. Well, remember it

23:07

was because you finished off them And

23:09

literally as a kid, I don't know if you heard during the intro

23:12

and I told you this and you were Pumping

23:14

me up all day yesterday. So I appreciate that that's good

23:16

leadership But like as I was going to play

23:18

with you for the first time everybody on earth was like wait

23:20

Do you see this brother guy? Wait, do you see this brother

23:22

guy? We're playing the same position I'm like this pretty disrespectful to

23:24

me And

23:26

then as soon as I like see you play

23:28

I'm like, oh this is the guy different styles

23:30

you were more smash power You know, I was

23:32

a little bit more elegant. So super smooth. Yeah,

23:34

a little bit more smooth But I I've been

23:36

building this guy up now for a few days

23:39

like he came in He looked a little nervous about

23:41

the whole thing didn't know what was gonna happen So

23:43

I was telling him hey Pat you look good like

23:46

you're moving well like your touches fan. Did you really?

23:48

Yeah Yeah, so building them off build them up to

23:50

that assist. So so that was that was good leadership,

23:52

bro One block at a

23:54

time Connor's got a question for you. So growl

23:56

yesterday Pat kind of was telling us about this

23:58

after the first game Obviously the first game doesn't

24:01

go well and it was kind of just all

24:03

over the place and he said, you know, the

24:05

thing that pissed Reloff is because you're such a

24:07

high IQ soccer player, footballer, if you will, that's

24:09

what you guys say, soccer player. You

24:11

know, a lot of things had to change. What changed

24:14

from game one to game two? And also, how is

24:16

this style much different than, you know, the 11 on

24:18

11 that were used to

24:20

playing on feet? Yeah, playing poorly yesterday

24:22

morning is an understatement, a really nice

24:25

one actually. I've never been more

24:27

confused in my entire life. I'm being that serious.

24:29

It was probably top five most embarrassed I've ever

24:31

been on a football pitch. I

24:33

mean, seriously, it was bad. And

24:36

we had no answers. I mean, we lost every facet

24:38

of the game. If you watch it, I'm sorry. It

24:40

was embarrassing. We were there. We were just my, I

24:42

felt like I broke my neck from tracking guys all

24:45

over the place and there was no communication. I mean,

24:47

we had no system. Didn't

24:49

help Tony showed up one hour before the

24:51

game. Didn't know anyone. Didn't know anyone's names.

24:53

Coach Miola. Coach Miola. So

24:56

Tony's the best. But so

24:58

we figured out we made a change that credit to

25:00

Jimmy Conrad, a guy I speak to an ex-US men's

25:02

national team guy. He goes, girl, you got to play

25:05

this way. And what it was was a three, two,

25:07

one Christmas tree formation, if you could imagine. We're starting

25:09

at the back. Oh, we're getting more into the back.

25:11

Yeah. Yeah. It's

25:13

number start at the back, but you kind of try

25:16

to keep everything on the outside of you instead of

25:18

tracking guys around. You know, we played the reggae boys,

25:20

a lot of young fit guys that were just all

25:22

over the place. And like us, we

25:24

can't track them. That's not playing to our strengths.

25:26

So stop tracking guys, following guys all

25:28

over and just sort of trying to stay in our

25:30

shape more so. And then the attack,

25:32

just try to let guys express themselves more and keep it

25:35

be a little bit more patient. And that kind of did

25:37

the trick. So we'll see. We'll get another test edit tonight.

25:39

Which country is kind of the founder

25:42

of playing that particular style? Christmas

25:44

tree is Italian football, ACM back in the day.

25:47

They won Champions League. Change it up. They

25:49

won Champions League doing that. You know what I

25:51

mean? You guys defend. Protect yourselves at the back

25:53

and then all the guys can express themselves and

25:55

go forward. Kaka, Piedlou, all those guys. Yeah, of

25:57

course. Grazie. Yeah,

26:00

Gaba Gool was out there smashing the ball around.

26:02

Grissant has so many goals. Oh, so good. So

26:04

good. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Gorilla, going into this,

26:06

we're looking at you guys' roster. And it's like,

26:09

OK, there's a lot of guys. For a guy

26:11

like me who's not a massive soccer fan, I

26:13

recognize several of the names. And you kind of

26:15

just assume, I think, hey, they have so much

26:17

talent. You look at some of the other teams,

26:20

it's like you don't really notice that many of

26:22

the guys' names, but you understand, hey, these guys

26:24

play in the MLS or whatever the case may

26:26

be. How difficult was it, though, in

26:29

terms of just the camaraderie? He helped put the

26:31

team together, too. OK, so being able to play

26:33

together, I think coming in, I kind of just

26:35

assumed, especially when you get to the target portion,

26:37

it's like, OK, the guys with the most skill,

26:39

the teams with the most skill, they're just going

26:41

to end up winning. Because that's kind of smaller

26:43

pitch, obviously, smaller goals. But how difficult is it

26:45

coming out here and playing when you're playing with

26:47

several guys? I mean, I don't know how many

26:50

of these guys you've played for in the past.

26:52

But how difficult is it when you haven't played

26:54

with any of these guys before? That was a

26:56

thing, too, in the morning. We don't know each

26:58

other's tendencies. Thank God Pat and I played 21

27:00

years ago together. We remember that little combination

27:02

came out. But it's hard. It's hard to

27:04

also make sure everyone likes each other. But

27:06

we have a really good group. Fos

27:08

did a great job of putting the group

27:10

together. Fosso. Fosso. Oh, my God.

27:13

Getting a goal tonight. Yeah, he's done so

27:15

much. And everyone, even just in early stages,

27:17

has taken on a role and a responsibility.

27:19

Everyone's happy. It's a really good vibe. I

27:21

think the indoor boys that we had

27:23

stayed up last night till 1 AM, wrestling each other,

27:25

trying to choke each other out. That's what they do,

27:27

though. They are a wild

27:29

one. Oh, wild. Let them be them themselves.

27:31

Jitsu guys, apparently. And they were complaining that

27:33

breakfast, who choked you out and who was

27:35

breathing heavier. So. Well? Yeah,

27:37

we got a great group. They

27:40

cleared the tables out of it. We have a room at

27:42

the hotel where all our shit is. Have

27:44

food in there. Have some recovery stuff. No, apparently,

27:47

they didn't clear the tables. They wrestled right in

27:49

between the tables, banging into all of it. So

27:51

we had some, I had a chance to enjoy

27:53

some cigars with the arena boys last night until

27:56

about 12.31 AM. They live a wild

27:58

life. They're nuts. Arena soccer

28:00

league's a real thing. It's on CBS, right? Don't

28:02

they? I think CBS has a ma SL rights

28:05

and I've been told that they get really high

28:07

ratings. It's like small Indoor

28:10

what's foot? So is it similar to what

28:12

is small ball right? It's always no walls.

28:14

Oh, it doesn't Oh, that's

28:16

more than I know but but I know the football is

28:18

different. I know the ball is different It's like it's kind

28:21

of like a dead ball doesn't bounce much You know But

28:23

they had a lot of things and input on how we

28:25

should play because it is a smaller field And

28:28

obviously the outdoor ex pro guys ex MLS guys,

28:30

you know Jeff and zat night played in Europe

28:32

and myself as well We had a

28:34

lot of input into how we should approach the game

28:36

as well It's actually right in between we

28:38

figured out yesterday because we tried the indoor stuff earlier on

28:40

in the day We tried some of the outdoor stuff not

28:42

every work It's kind of a new game where you have

28:44

to put all those things together and sort of figure it

28:47

out Hey, you talked

28:49

about you said letting guys express themselves You're gonna pack

28:51

what three two one and get what does that mean

28:53

exactly? Is that like in a basketball like I want

28:55

Jay Tate and let him express himself and isolate and

28:57

go go to the hoop Like what does that exactly

28:59

what it means? Yeah, you want the good players in

29:02

space and let them play You know and pass

29:04

and move and not have sort of set place

29:06

for them defensively I think you're you're like more

29:08

organized in the way that you want to approach

29:10

the game and It's a little bit

29:12

more rigid in the structure that you want to have

29:14

but once we get the ball I think it's more

29:16

free-flowing and get better players in space with the ball

29:18

to do what they can do and express themselves You

29:20

know to me Yeah,

29:23

give the ball to your playmakers in space Exactly how

29:25

many times can you get them in situations where they

29:27

can be successful and also like football? We are in

29:29

a shell coverage right now Hey,

29:31

we are not getting beat Overhead like makes sense

29:34

against our regular overs they were countering the shit

29:36

out of us and it was like three on

29:38

one two on Once that's like your cover zero

29:40

there pretty much. We're running cover to like last

29:42

night. They couldn't get a shot off That's the

29:45

thing. Yeah defense was suffocated When

29:49

we had energy But I got to tell you like yesterday

29:51

in the locker room before we went out and I know

29:53

look we're having a good time And it's a good group

29:55

and everything else, but obviously we want to compete Yeah, I

29:57

got the number 10 on my back 37 years old washed

29:59

up from

32:00

places in the world? Because he's in the

32:02

MLS. And plus, now we've got

32:04

that 14-year-old kid that just signed with Man City who's

32:06

going to the academy. That kid from Philadelphia Union. Yeah,

32:08

he's the next one up. Yeah, I mean, that's also

32:10

a positive thing. Like I said, I think it's moving

32:13

in the right direction. Man City and

32:15

Chelsea and massive clubs in England, what they do

32:17

is they have a roster of about 1,000. Well,

32:19

they hate Americans. Why do they hate Americans? They

32:21

love Americans now. So the progression was they used

32:23

to only sign American goalkeepers, right? So guys like

32:25

me and Pat had no shot. No, you. And

32:29

then it started to move to the midfielders. And

32:32

then we had some good defensive midfielders. And then

32:34

now the strikers, obviously. And so now the American

32:36

players actually saw it after in Europe. But

32:38

these big teams, they can sign 1,000 players

32:41

and take gambles on them, basically. So you sign a

32:43

14-year-old who's got some real talent. Spend

32:46

a million, two million on them. And then you loan them out and see

32:48

what you get. And if you don't get anything, two million is not really

32:50

a lot for them in the scheme of things. And if you do, you

32:52

get maybe potentially a $60, $70 million player.

32:54

So that's sort of the schematic behind that.

32:57

But it's good to see Americans even getting

32:59

in those opportunities and conversations. Did you do any academy

33:02

stuff? It wasn't really that prevalent, right, whenever we were

33:04

going. I mean, in America. I guess Philly

33:06

has one. I guess Chicago has one. There's a bunch of

33:08

IMG. That's a new thing,

33:10

though. That was not always there. It was not

33:12

really like the established academies. Yeah. So

33:14

you didn't do that here. No, we didn't. No, I was

33:17

in the same boat as you for a long period. It

33:19

was like you went state team, region one, and then you

33:21

try to get in the national team, which I got in

33:23

the national team. I don't know if you did. Never. Yeah.

33:26

Son of a. That's

33:30

the way you do it. But I went to

33:32

I ended up going to school. I got a full

33:34

scholarship down here, actually, down at Duke. And so

33:36

my parents were like, you're not going to. Hey, Duke

33:38

down there. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, I'm

33:40

a big Duke fan. So

33:43

I went there. I went that route. And then as soon as

33:45

I finished, I signed over at Leeds United. Went on a trial,

33:47

scored three goals in the first game. And that was it. It

33:49

was all done. Had a good time. How old were you when

33:51

you were over there? I was 20 years old. Were

33:55

you playing in Europe like

33:57

whenever we were teenagers? I went over there like.

34:00

trial like every summer I'd go and train for a

34:02

couple months with I went to Blackburn I went to

34:04

Derby County and stuff like that but I got the

34:06

worst records

34:11

in the Premier League that year they were not

34:13

good well it's not because of you no I

34:15

was not on the team I'm sorry the way

34:17

they talked about you was so awesome and then

34:19

for you to live up to all the hype

34:21

is crazy no it's fun man you want a

34:24

stupid Duke I guess AJ's got a question for

34:26

you did you play any other sports growing up

34:28

and if not like what would you like and

34:30

also when I look around your guys's squad you

34:32

think there's any guys on your team or guys

34:34

you played with that could have played other sports

34:36

like professionally basketball football anything oh yeah this happened

34:38

NBA NFL just has to argue

34:40

about this it's hard not to look at

34:42

Breck Shay and think that he's gonna play

34:45

another sport UFC he's just a monster I

34:47

mean we actually had to UFC fights at

34:49

1 a.m. so we must have some guys

34:51

in there for me I played

34:53

all sports growing up I was good at all of them

34:55

I'm born of Italian parents both born in Naples my mom

34:57

and dad so my dad at like seven

35:00

years old was I'm not paying for all the shit

35:02

anymore which which what are you doing so I'm like

35:04

I don't want to disappoint him I know he loves

35:06

soccer and watching City Eye every every weekend so I

35:09

was like I'll just do soccer and so I just

35:11

you know kind of focused on that at seven eight

35:13

years old and then just took off with it hey

35:15

you want to get in this cold tub sure let's

35:17

do it yeah which one's colder though to

35:20

be honest mine was even chilliest shit

35:22

yeah they're even equal bags of ice

35:24

in both so I

35:26

smell it a little bit either way a

35:28

little short time instead of linen

35:30

shirt sweet yeah

35:33

gonna feel fantastic

35:37

we got IVs come in right in a little

35:39

bit yeah they're huge right yeah hey the IV

35:41

worked yesterday pretty good yeah

35:46

got a little tortle juice in there too bossy

35:48

was telling me that you were the new man after you got

35:50

it whole body he told me it was the first time for

35:52

you to the world there the IV thing yeah I don't like

35:54

getting stabbed and especially with how big it is I mean I

35:56

saw the hole they're putting in my arm oh yeah they're like

35:59

you just got to think about how good you're gonna feel

36:01

afterwards. It's like, well, I've never done this before, so I

36:03

don't know how good I'm gonna feel after it. And I'll

36:05

tell you what, they were right. They delivered. You know how

36:07

all those Las Vegas has them. I think you can get

36:09

the IVs, and now it's like a modern thing. Hey,

36:12

get IVs to your house, goin' bachelor parties or everything.

36:14

I'm always scared to do that because of needles and

36:16

everything. But yesterday felt like a necessity. Boy, we're gonna

36:19

ride that torto train for the rest of this entire

36:21

thing. I know, we got some comin' up. How does

36:23

the body feel, though? You feel like you're gonna be

36:25

able to be good because you've become a massive piece

36:27

of our entire team. Now let's go, Gorilla. Listen,

36:30

I sat down on the toilet this morning. I didn't know

36:32

if I was gonna be able to get off. Yep, that's

36:34

a problem. The quads, the quads were mushy. But we'll see.

36:36

I'll be all right by tonight. Yeah, because I can go

36:38

for 45 seconds at a time. You gotta run for like

36:41

five, six minutes each time. Let's go ahead and remember that.

36:43

Do you keep track of all the other sports? I

36:46

do a little bit, yeah, yeah. Gotta play off, all playoff

36:48

sports I keep track of. Okay, so Celtics are playin' the

36:50

map. Starts tonight at 8.30. What are the

36:52

favorites? What are the Celtics, and what should we look for?

36:54

Celtics are minus six and a half tonight in the series.

36:56

They're minus 225, but Pat mentioned it. They're

36:58

89% of the series bets, so the Mavericks

37:00

to win the series at like plus 180

37:03

are comin' in on that side. I

37:05

mean, you seem like a smart man. You

37:08

know the Celtics are gonna win, I assume. Do you

37:10

watch any of the playoffs, and do you see the

37:12

dominant run that they're on, or are you just like,

37:14

I do. Hey, I know the Celtics, doesn't

37:16

even matter. They don't have to watch. No, no, I

37:18

became sort of a Celtic fan, because I have a-

37:20

Thank you, Jesus Christ! I

37:22

have a unique connection with them, with the Polyukas,

37:25

actually. They own a team in Italy. So,

37:28

we have conversations about Italian soccer, and about Atalanta,

37:30

the team that they own, that actually just won

37:32

the Europe- Is that Atlanta? No, Atlanta was- Okay,

37:35

they got Atlanta. Same thing. Okay, got it, got

37:37

it. So, they own, they

37:40

have a, I think, majority stake of the Celtics.

37:42

So, they invited us over for four

37:44

seats, so we became fans of the team, and

37:46

obviously, Tatum's Duke boy. I know you

37:48

all love Duke, so, yeah. So, I

37:50

became sort of a semi-Seltic fan. North

37:53

Carolina is known for a lot of

37:55

things. Obviously, Duke in North Carolina. All

37:57

right. And how about that Wolfpack here,

37:59

then? But

38:03

there's one particular thing, Ty, what is it? We

38:07

got Bojangles. What? What?

38:10

It's bow time. Yeah, how many... Well,

38:13

I know you're super healthy and play soccer, so obviously

38:15

I do think... Did you house

38:17

Bojangles while you were at Duke or no?

38:19

I gotta tell you something. Never. What?

38:23

Never had a Bojangles. You don't know Bojangles? No, no,

38:25

I never had a Bojangles. We went to like a

38:27

barbecue place that was open at night. God, I forgot

38:29

the name of it, and we'd go there and get

38:31

milkshakes and barbecue and stuff like that, so... Do you

38:34

eat super healthy? No, no. When you were playing,

38:36

did you eat super healthy? No, not at

38:38

all. What was your conditioning in cardio?

38:41

Not much, man. I'll be honest. Just

38:43

playing? Yeah, just playing. Listen, I got

38:45

a big Italian diet of sopressada and

38:48

salami. Oh, I got a bowl! Yeah,

38:50

mortadella and all that, bro, and bourbon

38:52

cigars. And so I'm not the

38:54

example for a healthy diet at all, man. Ty, you gonna

38:56

have any of that Bojangles? I think so. We

38:59

got a couple of biscuits with chicken on here. Look for a good one. You

39:01

guys want one? Sure, I'll take one.

39:03

All right. Yeah. Grela, have you

39:05

heard of... You want one? There's some world news.

39:07

Yeah, I'll certainly take some Bojangles. Bojangles? Yeah, I

39:10

know, Bojangles. Have you heard any world news? Did

39:13

you know that Starlink is Elon

39:15

Musk's internet? Okay. So it's

39:17

able to reach places in the world that were never

39:19

able to get internet. There's a remote Amazon tribe that

39:21

is getting internet for the first time. If

39:23

you had to guess how that was going, what would you say,

39:25

Grela? A remote Amazon

39:27

tribe that's getting internet for the first time? First

39:30

time. They have access to the internet. First time, 2024.

39:33

What do you think they're using it for? Remote tribe. These

39:35

people were just living off the land, obviously had no anything

39:37

like that. I don't know anything about it, but my guess

39:39

is that it went really well in the beginning. And

39:42

then? And then not so well. Yeah, you're right.

39:44

Porn and social media. Yep. Yeah,

39:46

it's 100% right. They are addicted to porn

39:49

and social media because that's a true story

39:51

that is happening right now in the middle

39:53

of the Amazon. And who can blame them?

39:55

Yeah, water's wet. Yeah, you're right. Could you

39:57

imagine that first night how much fun? They

39:59

were probably having that because what are they

40:01

also getting access like movies and things of

40:04

that nature is this Strictly

40:06

internet I assume that the the beginning of it was

40:08

like hey you guys get social media So you can

40:10

get connected with the world and see what it is

40:12

and then one of them typed in big

40:15

booty or something Look

40:18

what we have here Go

40:21

around the whole town whole village like hey You

40:23

know we can do now just beat

40:25

the hell out of ourselves like a profit every single

40:27

night And they have been doing welcome to the modern

40:30

world Amazon tribe. Good.

40:32

How do you? We have similar

40:34

problems, and then every super religious person goes on

40:36

to their social media saying you guys stop watching

40:38

porn Yeah, what is that all about? I don't

40:40

know what is the AJ? What is that all

40:42

about just high horse in it? What do you

40:44

mean? Every religious person I see

40:46

no no it's like you need to stop

40:48

beating your it's like anything in life Just

40:50

a little bit everything's good moderation

40:55

That's why you're the guy wise man you pay

40:58

attention to baseball Oh girl a little bit tough

41:00

support follow, but I want to let

41:02

you know There's two electrifying baseball throwers

41:04

in Pittsburgh who have taken on show

41:06

hey Oh Tony and back-to-back nights the

41:08

hundo boys Paul skeins last night put

41:11

103 103 104 105 on the board right ain't that right

41:13

again show hey Oh Tony Yeah,

41:16

he I think the first at bat with

41:18

Oh Tony I don't know if it was a

41:21

103 because I know Chapman did that later in their bullpen

41:23

Yeah, I think he went like a hundred and one a

41:25

hundred a hundred and one to strike him out on three

41:27

straight pitches Which is pretty damn impressive

41:29

and then obviously you know Oh, Tony's

41:31

a unicorn as well So he took him deep

41:33

later, but we were talking about this yesterday like

41:35

I mean Guys aren't supposed

41:37

to be this good this early, but when you're

41:39

throwing you know just diesel all

41:42

night long hundred For

41:44

the entire time he was in there like

41:46

the Pirates really they got a shot here

41:48

Really do so apparently you got to be

41:50

able to locate this thing too Oh, like

41:52

you can't just throw heat cuz I had

41:54

a friend of mine Craig Hanson played an

41:56

MLB and he threw gas But he couldn't

41:58

he couldn't locate it And they just ate

42:01

him a lot. Who's the tight end? Hayden

42:03

Hurst. Hayden Hurst is a guy

42:05

who got drafted to play baseball through like 100

42:07

miles an hour, I think. Former Panther. And as

42:09

soon as he gets into the majors, or as

42:11

soon as he gets drafted to play baseball, can't

42:13

throw a strike. Yeah, I got the yep. Ball

42:15

cannot hit strike zone. So it's going 100 miles

42:17

an hour, right outside the strike zone, for whatever

42:19

reason. Had to play football. Literally had to quit

42:21

baseball. That's nothing. And go play football through the

42:23

entire thing. Absolute insanity. Is this sustainable, Ty

42:26

Schmedes? Yeah, for sure. Because like with throwing heat

42:28

and locating it, a big thing in the majors

42:30

is being able to tunnel. Because a lot of

42:32

guys are throwing over 100 miles an hour in

42:35

these major league hitters. They can hit that.

42:38

But it's like being able to locate your

42:40

pitches and make your fastball look like the

42:42

splinker. So guys are identifying it like, oh,

42:44

OK, he's throwing a fastball here. And then

42:47

it just drops off the table. Yeah,

42:49

if he stays healthy, it is sustainable. Let's

42:52

talk some Carolina football. Let's

42:54

go to Clemson. Dabo Swaney, who's a

42:56

man who. Yes. They

42:59

won a national championship not too

43:02

long ago. They were

43:04

on top of the world. They were running the ACC. Just

43:06

like SEC school in the

43:08

ACC. The Clemson Tigers are

43:11

going to be on a run forever. Just

43:13

like the run that Dabo does down that

43:15

damn hill, when he's striding out. Somehow his

43:17

hamstrings aren't popping off his legs. Just like

43:19

mine somehow aren't popping off my legs on

43:22

these fields. And I'm very thankful for that.

43:24

Whoever is in charge, thank you for keeping

43:26

these things. He doesn't do transfer portal. He's

43:28

not much of an NIL guy, but he

43:30

is a recruiter. I don't know if you

43:32

saw this video and all of the people

43:34

did. Here's with Brandon Jacobs' kid, live on

43:37

campus, Dabo Swaney, making a tick tock. Hey,

43:40

what's up guys? It's Brandon Jacobs, checking in

43:42

at Clemson's official visit weekend with my best

43:44

friend, the coach, Dabo Swaney. Hey,

43:48

and I'm Coach Dabo Swaney, Clemson

43:50

football, hanging out with I forgot

43:52

your name. There was this. Five star.

43:55

You're a five star. I should be a five

43:57

star. You're a 10 star. 10 star in my

43:59

book. What are

44:02

they? You ever seen a basketball?

44:04

I've never seen a basketball before.

44:06

First one. Hey,

44:08

another guy. Another guy.

44:12

Is it okay for the boy to

44:14

be in your video? Still

44:16

going front-side. A lot of battles

44:19

between Easton one day. A lot of

44:21

battles. Always be the best place to go. I hope

44:23

they both play the same position without that believe it

44:25

or not. He's had a lot of battles. The

44:28

recruiting in college football is embarrassing. It

44:31

is really tough. True. You have to

44:33

sell these 17-year-olds or 16-year-olds on some dream. You're

44:35

a grown adult. It's a very

44:38

wild world, especially with the NIL. Every

44:40

time Dabu Sweeney does something, we're going to talk about it

44:42

because he is a national champion. In soccer,

44:44

was it weird, the recruiting process for you?

44:47

Now, is NIL cracking into soccer, do you know of?

44:49

How does it play out? I'm not sure if it's

44:52

cracking into soccer yet. I would imagine that it's only

44:54

a couple guys, if any, that are getting so... Who

44:56

are the guys? Do we know who the guys are?

44:58

Not sure. I would imagine the

45:00

top two ranked. What schools? The top five maybe

45:03

getting some stuff. Probably the top schools. ACC is

45:05

the best soccer, from what I understand. Best

45:07

soccer league, from what I understand. But yeah,

45:10

for me, it was really... Listen,

45:12

I got immigrant parents, you know? So

45:14

I was getting phone calls from all different places.

45:17

And one day, I just had too many phone calls and I said, you

45:20

know what? I didn't even know that much about Duke. And

45:22

I was like... My mom was like... I

45:24

said to my mother, I said, can I just go to Duke? She

45:26

goes, where's that? I go, I think it's North National. She goes, yeah,

45:28

you're good. Boom. Signed up. I

45:31

was like, I didn't know... It was like too much

45:33

overload. Too much going on. I knew Duke was a

45:35

good place. So I was like, you know what? I'll

45:38

just go there. So for me, it was a little

45:40

bit different. I know now it's more different. It's

45:43

more competitive. I

45:45

will say Duke hasn't done that well in the

45:48

soccer field anymore. It's a question

45:50

that I ask because they should be able to recruit.

45:52

So it's something that maybe I'm like, how are they

45:54

recruiting? Has it become more difficult? So it's something I

45:56

think about sometimes, especially with the money on the table.

48:00

Here after the season is the

48:02

World Cup in America and always to

48:05

be here in America I

49:00

do appreciate this boy. I

49:02

have delicious beer. Yeah, I'll

49:04

tell you. I'll

49:06

get it back. I'll get it back. Don't

49:08

worry. Cheers

49:10

to you guys. Safe travels

49:12

back to Germany. Safe travels, boys.

49:16

Bros. Hell

49:18

yeah, Dorman. Cheers, boys.

49:21

Cheers, boys. Point

49:24

of the soccer celebration down here in Cary, North Carolina. Got

49:26

Germans here. Appreciate you guys.

49:28

Thank you. Great assist. Thank you. It's

49:32

not working. It's not going to be great. How

49:34

about that assist, man? Greatest

49:36

play you've ever seen? Probably. See you later, brother.

49:38

Thank you. Doncaché. Doncaché.

49:42

You're super handsome, man. Good

49:44

lad. Good lad. Great

49:46

assist. They're from Germany. You're

49:48

speaking German about my assist. You never know there was a goal

49:50

on the back of it, man. I loved it.

49:54

DST. As soon as the game ends, I'm

49:56

cramping all over the place. We're celebrating. And

50:00

Gumpey's like, pow, the

50:02

internet is alive right now. I'm like, sweet,

50:04

I can't wait to see it. The TST

50:06

account goes, Pat McAfee with an incredible assist.

50:09

I'm like, oh no. And I

50:11

start reading the comments and they're like, what about Krollas?

50:13

Are we not gonna talk about it? I almost became

50:15

like heel in the entire thing. Don the worst was

50:17

another network was like, oh and Breck Shay with the

50:19

karate kick. No, that was the announcers. That

50:22

was the TST announcers. It's on

50:24

ESPN though, you're a CBS guy, so they were trying to. You

50:27

know what's nuts is I think the announcers, Michael who does a

50:29

guy who works with me at CBS. He

50:31

didn't even know it was me. So he's jagging y'all.

50:33

Oh yeah, so they're just dumping on you, Groll. What's

50:35

that all about? Are they down to two on two

50:37

right now? Yeah, yeah, that's what this little guy was

50:39

talking about. Let's watch this thing. Wow, this is awesome.

50:41

Hey Groll, you guys are super physical. Yeah.

50:44

Were you expecting, is that the plan? I think, you know how

50:46

we're talking about the shape before? Yeah. When

50:48

you come into that shape, you have to get hit.

50:51

Especially your big dudes playing defense. Yeah. Did

50:53

you tell Breck Shay to punishment Martinez,

50:56

Damien Priest, Chokeslam that guy on the

50:58

ground or no? No, that was Breck

51:00

Shay's own thing. But I was right

51:02

there to help him out right away. Man. But

51:04

once you come into that shape, you got to feel us a little

51:06

bit. That's sort of our trend. You

51:08

guys are being filled. I love that. We got

51:10

to go American toughness on our team. Hell yeah,

51:12

we do. We're bigger, slower guys. So that's cool.

51:14

We are bigger, slower team. We're bigger and slower

51:16

than you, and you're going to feel it the

51:18

entire time. So this is two on

51:20

two right now, including a goalie. Is

51:23

the score still 3-1? Yeah, still 3-1. 40

51:26

seconds left until it's not going to say don't take people.

51:28

Do they go to one on one, Grela? Do we know

51:30

the rules? I'm not sure. Oh my goodness. Braveheart. OK, they

51:32

have to be so tired. This is awful. Shoot

51:35

it. That's the goalie they're wearing the penny for

51:38

the Newtown team, who are the reigning champions of

51:40

TST. Taking on the blue team, who we

51:42

do not know their name, but we know they are certainly in

51:44

one. If they get the ball, they can score and make this

51:46

thing 3-2. Well, we have another upset in

51:48

target score time. Last night, somebody came back from being

51:50

down 4-0 to score

51:53

five straight goals. Newtown passing the rock

51:56

seemingly can get an easy

51:58

shot anytime they would like one. Bang,

52:01

there it is, goal, it is over. Newtown

52:04

wins 4-1, the patience is

52:06

paid off, but that might

52:08

affect them a little bit later, Grilla, having that long of

52:10

a game, they're going to be exhausted. That's right, not ideal

52:12

to play that long and you wonder

52:15

why they're not really moving and if you're watching from

52:17

the outside you're thinking, oh, just go and finish it.

52:20

They're eeg-zosted, yes, we're eeg-zosted after three minutes

52:22

of work. I mean, it's a lot, it's

52:24

more like a hockey shift than it is

52:26

a soccer shift of like 190 minutes.

52:29

I get on the field last night and I

52:32

turn the ball over and I'm chasing somebody down and

52:35

then I run all the way back and everybody's like, good running, good

52:37

running, good running, and then Grilla comes up to me. We

52:40

don't need you chasing that guy. Because with how

52:42

exhausted you are, if the ball goes the other way,

52:44

we're fucked. So I was

52:46

like, thank you, Grilla, thank you, Grilla, I

52:49

will stay more centrally located. Our team's awesome.

52:51

Black kids only now, right? Only

52:53

strictly black kids. I don't think we make that decision,

52:55

I've been told. I

52:58

heard it's black kids only now. It should be.

53:00

Didn't you guys lose the white one? No, I heard we got confirmation that it's

53:03

black kids only. Black

53:05

kids only, yeah. Sorry. When

53:07

you're built like me, Grilla, the white kid's not a

53:09

good, you know, in

53:12

step. The black kid makes you look a little slimmer.

53:15

Like I said, and I'm going to build you up

53:17

again, you look fantastic out there. You look great out

53:19

there. Come on, we're having beers in the afternoon, we

53:21

got currently tonight. They're going to think we're not taking

53:24

it seriously. You shouldn't be, they suck. They're the worst

53:26

team in the entire tournament. You

53:28

shouldn't be here. Were you in the slash here, Grilla, or no?

53:30

I don't remember. I wasn't, no, no, I wasn't. I was invited

53:32

to play with Clint Dempsey's team, but I didn't come. I was

53:34

not fit enough. I was like, nah, no. We try to get

53:36

Clint Dempsey on our team. He turned us down. Yeah, he's playing

53:39

golf right now, probably. What's that all about? Big golfer, man. He's

53:41

just lost the passion for soccer and he's just golfing now.

53:43

You too? You're a big golfer,

53:45

right? Big golf. Yeah, I enjoy it a lot.

53:48

Yeah. No one can kick me. I

53:50

can't get hurt playing it, so. So you do TV and golf now? And

53:52

dad? You get hurt too, by the

53:54

way, if you run a red light or something, I'll

53:56

call my polly over and you'll be on your car.

53:58

Just be there. Yeah, that happened a little. Golfing in

54:01

Lou. Don't golf there. It's all the clips of that

54:03

come out though, right? Oh, yeah, well We've actually covered

54:05

that pretty and we did some real journalism on that

54:07

closely Nobody's talking about it seems like he's still the

54:09

man. Huh Scotty still the man. Yeah, he went 500

54:12

that day He was in a

54:14

jail. He said he said he's a nominal.

54:16

Hey, grella. I appreciate you so much, man

54:19

He made me look good when we were teenagers and last night

54:21

you made a highlight that I'll run with for us I like

54:23

pleasure man got a score tonight. We got to be we got

54:25

to be burnt lady like you need to be Nothing

54:28

we had a good breakfast this morning. The majority of

54:30

the boys were there at first watch Felt like

54:32

everybody's kind of dialed in we understand what style of play

54:34

we're gonna go for and I think

54:36

we got a good chance This is our thing. Listen,

54:38

we got something now, right? We got some shape. We got

54:40

something so we got you When can we watch you

54:42

on CBS? CBS right now, it's a

54:45

little bit slow time. But once the season start up

54:47

again, there's a weekend program Saturday Yeah, but aren't seasons

54:49

all the time AJ in there some tournaments at the

54:51

foul you never stop You guys do some tournament all

54:53

the time euro and the Copa medica as well So

54:56

it will be on every weekend the Europe Colossal Network

54:58

Yeah, do you think they'll ever put the Europe's trophies

55:00

up against the concave of champions, which is

55:02

us? They should the United States they will

55:04

I will see. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's called

55:07

Copa medica is gonna have you

55:09

know United States in it a lot of big teams. Oh, they

55:11

win that that's that's right Are we gonna win that? It'll

55:15

be interesting where we place. I don't think we win it.

55:17

Well, remember My heart's playing in it

55:19

messy's playing with us this time around though. It's

55:21

changing. I went to Lou messy He's

55:24

got citizen. Yeah, we got he's actually playing

55:26

against us. So and that's a fact what

55:28

so no he's on America I thought he

55:30

was out he plays in the MLS Argentina. No,

55:33

I thought he's saying hey I can't I can't

55:35

play against America because I kind of favor them

55:37

more now my home now won't play against our

55:39

teeny No, I think he likes our money. I'm

55:41

not sure how much he likes Well

55:44

loves our money and we're giving them a lot of it

55:46

and for good reason Just like

55:48

we should be giving you at least a

55:50

million dollars after we win this thing You're

55:52

a pillar of this team. We appreciate you.

55:54

Ladies and gentlemen American soccer legend out

55:57

of Duke Mike I

56:00

don't know if I'm going to be able to get out

56:02

of this club, man. Yeah, it's pretty high. You stepped on

56:04

your shoes, too. That's not good. Oh, that's true. Need them.

56:06

Oh, today I was able to stay a little bit longer.

56:08

You know why? Why is that? We're a little bit more

56:10

sore. Oh, that's a noise. Yeah. We're day one. Hey, I

56:12

appreciate the hell out of you, bro. Hell, yeah, girl. Thank

56:14

you, buddy. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you.

56:17

Appreciate you. Appreciate you. You're the man. Carcaveball! It

56:19

is buzzing. That's the team that will

56:21

be playing Burnley this evening, which is

56:23

JJ Watt Squad, who I believe has

56:26

been mathematically eliminated from TST before anybody

56:28

else. They have the worst goal differential

56:30

in the history of TST after two

56:33

games. But a lot to play for

56:35

tonight is JJ Watt continues on

56:38

his passion for football and maybe a goal to be

56:40

scored on the greatest grass that I've ever felt in

56:42

my entire life. The toxic table is here at Boston

56:44

Connor at Tieschmitt. Conman, I see you with a bunch

56:46

of brats and shit in front of you here on

56:48

this June 6, 2024. Yeah,

56:51

look, I don't want to I don't want

56:53

to bring it up, but sorry. I'm not

56:55

going to eat any German food on D-Day.

56:57

Sue me. OK, I appreciate the I appreciate

56:59

the message. And the feeling about it, I'll

57:01

post to with one of their beers, but

57:04

with with the brat and

57:06

the German mustard and the

57:09

whatever the hell is on top. I

57:11

cry. Sorry. Yeah, bingo. I'm not eating

57:13

something that has sauerkraut in it. OK.

57:15

And why would you? You know, because

57:17

on this day, on this 80th anniversary

57:19

of D-Day, there's nothing more American. There's

57:21

no better way to celebrate than

57:23

with Bojangles. We got both. All

57:26

right. Chicken biscuits from Bojangles. They

57:28

are spicy. They are delicious. To

57:31

the allied powers. I do believe, though, that they were

57:34

coming up on

57:36

D-Day is one thing. They're

57:39

paying homage. They're kissing ass. They remember, hey,

57:41

you think you think those

57:43

guys aren't embarrassed walking up here on D-Day? This is

57:45

just like the cold steam for deflating. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

57:48

We would like to not talk about that. Right. So,

57:50

hey, we'll bring you our sausages. We'll bring you a

57:52

couple of sweet kids, some little

57:54

penance and whatnot. But they don't and they won't

57:56

forget. And guess what? We ain't ever

57:58

going to forget either. A man who's

58:00

up in the Hawks Nest who epitomizes

58:02

American muscle. That's right. That's right.

58:04

American success. What? The president of

58:07

Ohio. What? College football national champion.

58:09

What? Super Bowl champion. What? All-time

58:11

leading tackle for the Green Bay

58:13

Packers. What? Greatest jawline in the

58:15

history of sports. What? Father of

58:17

10. What? COVID survivor. What? Ladies

58:19

and gentlemen, AJ Hall. Hey. Hey.

58:22

Hey. Hey. AJ.

58:25

AJ, I know that that Bojangles chicken has

58:28

flavor, so that's not normally something you would

58:30

try and eat. I'm not a rolofsky. I

58:32

like stuff with flavor. I like spices. I

58:34

like- I'll eat it whenever I want. Yeah.

58:36

There are no rules. And then you normally

58:38

don't. Cheesecake Factory order late in the night

58:41

last night. It always comes through. I need

58:43

the driest chicken you got. I

58:45

need the flavorless rice that you got. Oh,

58:47

yeah. Stacked to the hotel. But

58:49

I feel like you've actually enjoyed yourself down here, which

58:51

I assume was not something you would think about for

58:53

a soccer tournament as a man out of Ohio who

58:55

is a football guy through and through. Son of a

58:58

bitch, it's all gone. No. Well, my only background in

59:00

soccer- I played in second grade for the Green Hornets,

59:02

and then I was able to play football in the

59:04

third grade. But I loved it. I enjoyed it. My

59:06

daughter played soccer for a little bit, but I was

59:08

excited to watch. Like, I

59:11

came down here, and I can't believe how good everybody is.

59:13

Like, I don't know a whole lot about soccer, but everybody

59:15

looks like a professional out here, at least to me. So

59:18

I get- There's a couple of teams that got a couple,

59:20

like, 300 pounders. I'm like, can we

59:22

play them? Yeah. They probably got some great feet,

59:24

though. I bet they do. They have to. Yeah.

59:26

Dorman's got a guy. I mean, when we were

59:28

leaving the concafah ass beating you guys put on

59:30

yesterday, we were looking up at the big board,

59:32

and Dorman's got a 6'8' house that

59:35

looks like a guy you want on your team. I

59:37

assume he proasted a lot of these beers last night,

59:40

whatever proce means. I think it means cheers. I do

59:42

appreciate the fact that they're just handing out beers in

59:44

the middle of an afternoon of a soccer tournament when

59:46

everybody's trying to get hydrated at this stage. Yeah. These

59:49

boys are like, hey, you got some beers for you?

59:51

You want some- How about some brats? Maybe a little

59:53

bit of mustard. We got some- We got some dehydrating

59:55

sauerkraut. You can put on there as well. This

59:58

might be mind games from the Dorman- boys.

1:00:00

But we do appreciate them for stopping by

1:00:02

and also we appreciate the soccer community for

1:00:05

being so hospitable. soccer.com made all of our

1:00:07

merch obviously TST which is its own entity

1:00:09

has been incredibly kind and this

1:00:11

carry North Carolina place I can't say it enough it

1:00:14

is the perfect spot for a sporting event. Wonderful.

1:00:19

Now it has been great weather-wise I don't know what

1:00:21

it's normally like down here the storms have kind of

1:00:23

passed they were calling for storms in the middle of

1:00:25

our show both days. And if you call

1:00:27

for storms especially in this area you think the humidity would be

1:00:30

through the roof. We've kind of missed it a little

1:00:32

bit thus far although it has gotten hot and it's

1:00:34

certainly thick and there is moments where you think to

1:00:36

yourself holy shit this is heavy it hasn't been like

1:00:38

terrible it's not like a Florida summer day it's really

1:00:41

beautiful here. No absolutely I was thinking you know hey

1:00:43

early June down in North Carolina like we're gonna be

1:00:45

in trouble and especially you know I was thinking that

1:00:47

it was maybe gonna be turf so it's nice that

1:00:49

we don't have to deal with that as well but

1:00:52

yeah I mean you get the wind in here the

1:00:54

storms are at bay like it really has kind of

1:00:56

I mean I don't want to say they got lucky

1:00:58

but the stars kind of aligned for everything to

1:01:00

go as well as they have so far

1:01:03

that we've been down here. Speaking of things

1:01:05

going well the Vikings get a deal done

1:01:07

with Justin Jefferson they draft the quarterback of

1:01:09

the future which everybody thinks and JJ McCarthy

1:01:12

Kevin O'Connell is around there they're in a

1:01:14

tough NFC North but it feels like Vibes

1:01:16

and Mojo are going in the right direction

1:01:18

now they debut an alternate uniform that is

1:01:21

filthy. Yeah might be the best. Absolutely filthy

1:01:23

they're calling it the winter warrior uniform

1:01:26

and in Minnesota winter means

1:01:29

negative 45 degrees and you can't

1:01:31

go outside these all whites in that

1:01:33

dome AJ in US Bank Field that

1:01:35

is gonna be I'm super gonna be

1:01:37

a white out oh yeah that's gonna

1:01:39

be a college atmosphere whenever they

1:01:41

buy the whole deal but you can do it the horn I

1:01:44

don't know if I got it right now because it usually has it whatever

1:01:52

I thought I was there I thought it was in the stadium. Close your

1:01:54

eyes close your eyes. Thank you for

1:01:56

big fat ass Viking. Yeah got it. No,

1:02:00

missed it. Had it the first time, shouldn't have

1:02:02

done it again. It was the big fat ass

1:02:04

Viking that got distracted. But this place will be

1:02:06

alive. And this is like not many

1:02:09

teams lose alternate uniform announcements. There has been a

1:02:11

couple of issues where everybody goes, that looks like

1:02:13

crap. Like the Giants look like shit. Yeah. And

1:02:15

Giants are part of the offseason hard knocks. So

1:02:17

they might have just got cursed from the hard

1:02:20

knocks thing. But these rolled out this morning. I

1:02:22

think everybody thought the exact same thing. Those are

1:02:24

sick. Those are clean. And then you think about

1:02:26

their fans and how they. Oh,

1:02:28

yeah. It's going to be a white out. It's going to

1:02:30

be not cool. It'll be awesome in Minnesota. Man,

1:02:33

Sam Darnam. Who do you think we say I'm going to

1:02:35

hold it down the fort for a little bit till JJ

1:02:37

gets comfortable. I mean, that flows into a good conversation. I

1:02:40

think you should always want to give your rookie

1:02:42

some time to learn and watch. Yeah. Sam Darnam

1:02:44

has been around. Obviously, obviously played a lot of

1:02:46

football in a lot of different places. Has it

1:02:48

been great anywhere? No. Has it been great moments?

1:02:50

Yes. So maybe you let JJ kind of learn

1:02:52

that thing. But then you also look up in

1:02:54

New England. Yeah. Jacobi Brissett has started. I want

1:02:56

to be an MVP at one point whenever he

1:02:59

is playing for the Colts until he got hurt.

1:03:01

He's been in a lot of buildings. He's been

1:03:03

in a lot of quarterback rooms. But what they're

1:03:05

saying is Drake may every single day. It's like,

1:03:07

how long do you wait? If JJ McCarthy can

1:03:09

figure out that offense, which everybody says he can.

1:03:11

He's got weapons. You drop them into the deep

1:03:13

end and give them reps like NFL reps that

1:03:15

he's going to need. And it's the same question

1:03:17

that's happening in New England. It's the same question

1:03:19

that's going to be happening everywhere with rookie quarterback.

1:03:22

Yeah. With New England, it's such a situation to

1:03:24

where it's not just Drake may be in the

1:03:26

rookie, you know, starting if you were to start

1:03:28

week one like with JJ, you have Justin Jefferson,

1:03:30

you have T.J. Hawkinson, you have Aaron Jones. Now

1:03:32

you have Jordan Addison. Like if Drake were to

1:03:34

go in there and be the day one starter

1:03:36

week one, he's basically one of if not the

1:03:39

longest tenured guy when it comes to receivers and

1:03:41

quarterbacks, because they're talking about Polk and Javon Baker

1:03:43

being the one and two. And both those guys

1:03:45

are coming into their rookie year. So I personally

1:03:47

would want Jacobi Brissett obviously to start because of

1:03:50

the fact that you don't want to start Drake

1:03:52

may and then have to pull him and then

1:03:54

put him back in because that just completely ruins

1:03:56

it. But with JJ, like if you know on

1:03:58

half of your dropbacks. Hey, no matter what you

1:04:00

see just throw it to 18 like just just

1:04:02

throw the ball over there to him And he's

1:04:05

gonna come down with half of them and you're

1:04:07

gonna end up, you know with 250 yards and

1:04:09

two touchdowns with Drake Man, you just can't do

1:04:11

that in New England. That's why it's like those

1:04:13

situations They really are situations are situational every team

1:04:15

is different. You can't spell Viking without King Yeah,

1:04:18

are they the new kings of the north?

1:04:20

Especially with this winter is coming uniform tie

1:04:22

I see you shitting your pants your face

1:04:24

is getting more pink and more red Just

1:04:26

thinking about the dominance that the Vikings might

1:04:28

be able to display in these brand

1:04:30

new uniforms that are gonna shock and awe

1:04:32

the world into a state of Euphoria,

1:04:35

no, I don't think so The thickness is from

1:04:37

the summer man and the messy tarp a little

1:04:39

bit It's kind of blending in but no I

1:04:42

think I think you're onto something with start and

1:04:44

Arnold like it if they're the Vikings are realistic

1:04:46

about what they're trying to do Here like you

1:04:48

just restyme Jefferson. He's 24 sure

1:04:51

Aaron Jones is there But Hockinson just got a

1:04:53

new deal like you're kind of preparing for the

1:04:55

next four to five years You know

1:04:57

or this window in terms of when you have

1:04:59

a rookie quarterback a rookie contract

1:05:02

So like I don't think they need to like why would

1:05:04

you put JJ out there rush him out there? Because we

1:05:06

always talk about you know Like it's not like they're expected

1:05:08

to win a Super Bowl this year But if they go

1:05:10

out there and go to and 15 and

1:05:13

he just doesn't look good and gets the shit beat out of

1:05:15

him Like is that what you want to do with a guy

1:05:17

starting his career? I don't know especially with

1:05:19

the way JJ all he does is win exactly literally

1:05:21

all JJ had IMG Academy Which is where Breck Shay

1:05:23

went to high school, which we need to pay a

1:05:25

little bit more respect to Especially with

1:05:27

that football coach down there at IMG Academy who just

1:05:29

produces top 10 talent every single year Yeah, they

1:05:31

got it figured out but JJ one down there.

1:05:34

He wins in college. He wins over the locker

1:05:36

room He wins over everybody that he's around It's

1:05:38

like you have him in the locker room, too

1:05:41

You have no idea what people gonna do because

1:05:43

if Sam Donald starts doing that Sam Donald shit

1:05:45

He's throwing ball to the other team numerous times

1:05:47

There might be like a little bit of a

1:05:49

push for the rookie to get in there and

1:05:51

that's best case scenario for all parties If you're

1:05:53

trying to think about the quarterback for the future

1:05:55

as opposed to Sam, Donald not great But if

1:05:57

Sam, Donald goes in there does his thing showcases

1:05:59

to JJ how to be a pro, hey

1:06:01

here's what you're allowed to do. Then he starts

1:06:03

doing some Sam Donald shit that we've seen him

1:06:05

do. Then all of a sudden you have like

1:06:07

a swell of like, hey it's JJ's time. It's

1:06:09

like a perfect transition. Now AJ I'll ask you

1:06:11

this, we all kind of have the NFC North

1:06:13

the same. It's Lions, Packers, Vikings, Bears. That's how

1:06:16

everybody sees it up there. I

1:06:18

don't know who is everybody. I don't know who has the Lions in front

1:06:20

of the Packers at the moment. I feel like the- Everybody.

1:06:22

Literally everyone AJ. The Packers have a

1:06:25

lot of momentum behind them. For sure.

1:06:27

The Lions don't have momentum on them. The Lions

1:06:29

had the biggest draft of all time. Lions definitely

1:06:32

are considered at least publicly. You gotta

1:06:34

prove that you are, you gotta prove I think that

1:06:36

you are the one once you are the target. Once

1:06:38

people expect you to, people say, hey you're the head

1:06:40

of the class. Okay you gotta continue to be the

1:06:42

head of the class for the next four or five

1:06:44

years if you wanna prove it and show everybody that,

1:06:46

yeah that's us. We have arrived. I agree with that

1:06:49

and also Foxy doesn't really do this but Lions fans

1:06:51

in general, like I understand they went to the NFC

1:06:53

Championship last year but now all of a sudden Lions

1:06:55

fans are acting like they've won 12 Super Bowls in

1:06:57

the last 30 years. That's

1:07:00

Buffalo football too by the way. Yeah they know. It's

1:07:02

the same thing so it's like, yeah I understand the

1:07:04

hype is there but I agree like you know, I

1:07:06

mean last year I guess they kinda did

1:07:08

at the back half of the season but you're getting

1:07:10

everybody's best shot now. It's good though. Guys we did

1:07:12

that last year though. They were expected to win the

1:07:14

NFC North last year. They won the NFC North. They

1:07:16

won two playoffs games. They went and go to the

1:07:18

NFC Championship. They should have been in the Super Bowl.

1:07:20

They probably should have won the Super Bowl. So I

1:07:22

think we got everyone's best shot last year. You can

1:07:24

do that every single year with any team. Yeah we

1:07:26

should have been in the Super Bowl as well. We

1:07:29

almost played the playoffs in the Garden of the Shoe. Now you

1:07:31

guys lost. Yeah I mean

1:07:33

to the Niners who beat the Lions. Packers

1:07:36

played the Lions. It's good. The Packers want everyone

1:07:39

in the NFC North to get better and

1:07:41

continue to get better. So we're battle tested once

1:07:43

we get to the playoffs. Yeah you're gonna have

1:07:45

to beat the best teams anyways. But Foxy congrats

1:07:47

to the Lions being the team. Thank you

1:07:49

boys. Thank you. Now heavy is the head brother.

1:07:52

Yeah now we gotta go. And also we have

1:07:54

new uniforms and new alternate uniforms that are

1:07:56

awesome as well. The Lions are ready. Nobody's talking

1:07:58

about them there. things well

1:08:01

ours are black ones ours are awesome there's

1:08:03

like the old school like Calvin Johnson days

1:08:05

there's what are they calling I'm gonna guess

1:08:07

that they're called the midnight Motor City uniforms

1:08:10

oh I totally just made that up okay

1:08:12

like dark mode we know we know the

1:08:14

Lions PR guy's really good at stuff so

1:08:16

I assume he thought of a great name

1:08:19

and that entire situation pop off the winter

1:08:21

warrior sweet he's a sweet name yeah 10

1:08:23

out of 10 can we turn one of

1:08:25

these cameras to

1:08:28

that spot right over there on the hill

1:08:31

there's a man wearing sunglasses that just sat

1:08:33

down who might end up becoming the MVP

1:08:35

of this entire tournament he's Serbian Kovac there

1:08:38

he is I had

1:08:40

a baby step and he's the guy who's

1:08:42

sit down and I spoke a couple cigars

1:08:44

with him last night the guy down right

1:08:47

on the camera there that that guy's nickname

1:08:49

is life like one of the

1:08:51

greatest nicknames of life he's just hanging around with

1:08:53

step okay they are a tag team of problems

1:08:55

whenever it comes to soccer road hey step you're

1:08:57

killing it pal absolutely killing

1:08:59

it step steps

1:09:02

a lad to pull out

1:09:04

of the line truly this dude plays soccer like

1:09:06

every weekend he made the dude like fall dead

1:09:08

like fake with the right old buddy defender falls

1:09:11

down just blasted with the left to end the

1:09:13

game yeah that's the goal yeah we'll have your

1:09:15

fault did you see what he was doing Ocho

1:09:17

was on him oh yeah I've she's

1:09:19

up more yeah Steph Steph saw Ocho Cinco in

1:09:21

front of him and was like oh I'm a

1:09:23

dick with it yeah he's going with him he's

1:09:25

a dog mentally and he's phenomenal

1:09:29

for us he's played goalie he's played

1:09:31

defense like striker glad this dude's got

1:09:33

an absolute cannon to he's he's 28

1:09:36

years old I he needs to be

1:09:38

on our national team I don't even you know he's born in Germany

1:09:40

so I don't know how that would work out this

1:09:42

dude's he needs to be representing soccer more he's

1:09:44

also me yeah oh yeah got a lot of

1:09:46

meat on be it he has two game winners

1:09:49

for us so we obviously appreciate it I had

1:09:51

a baby step what do you go step I

1:09:54

debate me yeah me way go

1:09:57

me meet is a goalie and

1:09:59

he's me Yeah, like full on

1:10:02

Hey big me. Oh, he's throwing his body around there.

1:10:04

He's not coming. I can dudes all over the field

1:10:06

me put this headset on But he works for the

1:10:08

Nike moving company to oh, yeah five tool player Pretty

1:10:13

mover. All right step They

1:10:18

take 20 minutes What

1:10:24

is this your arena Good

1:10:30

save You

1:10:36

said Dubai and bye Football

1:10:39

is like six on six on a smaller field data

1:10:42

for World Cup in Dubai who's representing the United States

1:10:44

of America as a hey Hey,

1:10:47

you've been crushing it here. Thank you Thank you

1:10:49

knew you're gonna obviously with the team that we

1:10:51

had in winning last year like this style of

1:10:53

soccer just suits you So well, that's why you

1:10:55

play arena league mini football, which is six on

1:10:57

six and then now out here you're doing great

1:10:59

You knew you're gonna kill it out here. What?

1:11:01

Yeah, this is an indoor sport. So small-sided

1:11:03

is what that may sell does I

1:11:06

think most of the guys here there's over a hundred

1:11:08

players So I think a lot of the guys you

1:11:10

see an indoor are taking over this game and they're

1:11:12

gonna be in taking a far for Sure. Okay. Let's

1:11:14

talk about this. Why are you not our national team?

1:11:18

I know you're born in Germany and

1:11:20

that entire thing But like your leg

1:11:22

strength your moxie your soccer intelligence because

1:11:24

we're talking to growler earlier Obviously

1:11:26

the indoor guys have a little different strategy than

1:11:28

the guys that play outside You've been able to

1:11:30

play with both groups the guys that play Premier League

1:11:32

and MLS guys And then obviously the arena league guys

1:11:34

you've been able to do both Has it

1:11:36

was ever a conversation that you being one of our guys

1:11:38

like this? I would like to see you represent the

1:11:40

United States of America On our team

1:11:42

because we would go bananas and everything about it. But

1:11:44

like how did you get here? I know you've been

1:11:47

playing arena league for like nine years and we love

1:11:49

watching. I mean, I had some injuries

1:11:51

going up So I tore my ACL at 19 broke my

1:11:53

foot twice at 24 So a lot

1:11:55

of obstacles, but that was the plan to go outdoor

1:11:57

making a national team But I'm happy

1:11:59

I'm a happy-wearing man now indoor playing in MSL.

1:12:02

I mean, our league's growing. I'm playing with Marco

1:12:04

Fabian, a Mexican legend. So it's a

1:12:06

lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Hey, we're

1:12:08

lucky to watch you. Hell yeah. I mean, you've gained

1:12:10

fans for marble. I don't know how everybody else watching,

1:12:13

but like a lot of people are watching our games.

1:12:15

You know, I would assume. I don't know what ESPN

1:12:17

Plus's numbers are gonna be, but I think last night

1:12:19

probably a good amount of people were watching everything. They

1:12:21

see you obviously on the field. Then they see you

1:12:24

go in a goal with no gloves. Make some big

1:12:26

saves. Dribble the ball through his legs. You know, exhausted.

1:12:28

And then it's another game winner at the end of

1:12:30

it as the goalie. It's like you're taking this thing

1:12:32

over. We're lucky to have you, bro. No, thank you.

1:12:35

I appreciate you having us here. Can we talk about

1:12:37

that assist yesterday? Yeah, come on. We talked about it.

1:12:39

We talked about it. How about this? What are the

1:12:41

odds for you to score tonight? Yeah, well, we're looking

1:12:43

for it, right? That's right. Steph actually told me last

1:12:46

night while we were smoking some cigars late night at

1:12:48

the hotel. He said, gotta get

1:12:50

your goal tonight. And then if I just

1:12:52

stand in a certain spot, Steph

1:12:54

will be able to bank one off my

1:12:56

body. Okay. Goal. Stay back post.

1:12:58

Yeah, you just bank one off me. We

1:13:01

got an absolute goal. You won with Newtown last year.

1:13:03

They were in a dogfight out here. It

1:13:05

ended up being two on two. After

1:13:07

target time, they were up three-one. They would inevitably go

1:13:10

on to win. You won last year this

1:13:12

tournament with them. Does our team have a chance here? What

1:13:14

do we need to work on tonight against

1:13:16

Burnley? Because a lot of people are

1:13:18

saying that we should kill Burnley. I agree. Every game

1:13:20

presents its own problems, though. That is literally how it

1:13:22

is. We gotta take care of business. They've gotten killed

1:13:25

by both teams that they have played thus far. Swatter.

1:13:27

And that's just- That's the reality of the

1:13:30

situation. But what does our team need to do to

1:13:32

really make a run at this, you think? So last

1:13:34

year, with Newtown, we actually lost the first game of

1:13:36

the tournament to Kingdom FC. And then after that, we

1:13:38

won every game straight. So it's a similar story with

1:13:40

us. We lost the first game. We

1:13:43

regrouped. We got our coach to help

1:13:45

us out. And then second game, we came out looking real good.

1:13:47

What do we need to do? We just need to play like

1:13:49

we played last night. We need you to score some goals, man,

1:13:51

for us. All right. Hell yeah. All right.

1:13:53

I'm trying to earn some time on the field for

1:13:55

the boys. I only got a good 45 seconds for

1:13:58

you, but I want to let you know, Steph, watching

1:14:00

you play and getting to meet you incredibly cool this

1:14:02

week. We appreciate you. Thank you so much, man. What's

1:14:04

the last name again? Miatovic. Okay. All right. Stefano Vich

1:14:06

is here. Appreciate

1:14:09

you, Meat. Appreciate

1:14:11

you, Meat. That might be me. Appreciate you,

1:14:13

Meat. I

1:14:16

eat meat. It celebrates too. Oh, yeah.

1:14:19

That's almost some of the best parts. It's like you're

1:14:21

hoping just to get to that point because what he's going

1:14:23

to do after the fact is just as sweet. Now,

1:14:25

Meat gets all jacked up. You know, he gets excited.

1:14:27

Meat missed the breakfast this morning, but that's going to

1:14:29

happen. That's meat football. That's right. That

1:14:31

is literally meat football. Meat's got to be

1:14:33

meat. Yeah, the Arena League boys missed the

1:14:35

breakfast this morning, but we got a

1:14:38

night game. What are we talking about? Breakfast. Exactly.

1:14:40

What are we even doing here? It's been a

1:14:42

lot of fun. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen,

1:14:44

I believe is one of the founders and owners

1:14:46

of this tournament. Obviously an absolute

1:14:48

legend in the basketball world.

1:14:50

Business acumen through the

1:14:52

roof author. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Paul.

1:15:00

Hey, I got you. All right. Steve,

1:15:05

how's it going, man? Chris, man, great

1:15:07

to see you, dude. The headset should

1:15:09

be good. Yeah, I think hopefully.

1:15:12

He need a cold tub too. We can get in the garbage cans. I

1:15:15

went and worked out this morning. Dude, I

1:15:17

don't know. You're in shape though. Still, I'm running

1:15:19

on these fields for like 45 seconds at a

1:15:22

time. I'm going to get tort all

1:15:24

today and do the tort all. No, I'm good. Hey,

1:15:26

Chris. Don't do that. Chris.

1:15:28

Yeah, I want all the tort all in

1:15:30

North Carolina. Okay, that is

1:15:33

what I'm doing. Let's talk about TST. You're one

1:15:35

of the owners of this thing, right? Yes, sir.

1:15:37

Congratulations on the smash. Yes, and

1:15:39

for making a great job being here and no

1:15:41

problem. Lucky to be here. So the basketball tournament

1:15:43

obviously started this entire thing. Million-dollar prize put teams

1:15:46

together. Let's go ahead and do this thing. Then

1:15:48

the soccer guys, the two co-founders, I met them.

1:15:50

They said they saw that they pitched. They said

1:15:52

soccer would be good. How'd you get involved? And

1:15:54

then how many years you've been involved because I

1:15:56

learned of this last year and then this year

1:15:58

seems to be even bigger. guys are crushing. Yeah

1:16:00

so I got involved in the basketball tournament and

1:16:03

the way that happened was I was

1:16:05

watching the games during the summer and I looked and

1:16:07

I was like man I'm seeing a lot of guys

1:16:09

that I played against in college and it's competitive and

1:16:11

then I seen that you get a chance to win

1:16:13

a million dollars. Right. And so

1:16:15

reached out to my brother, we reached out

1:16:17

to John, boom got a

1:16:19

part of that. And then soccer comes on you're like

1:16:21

I'd like to be a part of that as well?

1:16:23

Yeah so it's you know John and all we talked

1:16:25

we had meetings about all types of

1:16:28

things and so we was like TST the soccer

1:16:30

tournament because we could do that with just about anything but

1:16:32

you want to see how it works so last year was

1:16:34

the first year we did it right here in Cary and

1:16:36

it was it was a learning experience you know what

1:16:38

I mean but it's one of those things that you

1:16:41

got to be here to fill it to see what

1:16:43

it's like and that's why I'm happy that y'all came

1:16:45

here we appreciate it. Dude it is awesome. It's so

1:16:47

sick. It is the grass. It

1:16:49

might be the greatest grass I've ever. I don't

1:16:51

want to put over like the city as much

1:16:54

as I have because you know like I haven't

1:16:56

seen every single part of Cary. A great city

1:16:58

and a very great state might I have. Okay

1:17:00

shout out to Wayne. I

1:17:02

agree. Including Duke. We've been saying this the whole time. You

1:17:04

said something about Duke? Including Duke. No they hate Duke. I

1:17:07

don't know. He said it's that

1:17:09

state. I mean Duke's in the state. I'm from Winston

1:17:11

Salem. I'm from Winston Salem. Hey

1:17:13

these people hate Duke around here. They absolutely hate

1:17:15

it but the grass it feels all like just

1:17:17

very easily set up and I know there's a

1:17:19

lot of work behind it which leads me to

1:17:22

talking about you. You played basketball. Kurt how long

1:17:24

have you been in the NBA? Going

1:17:26

into my 20th season. Hell

1:17:28

yeah. That's not easy.

1:17:30

Long time. That's not easy. The amount of work

1:17:32

you got to commit to your body, to your

1:17:34

game, to everything. And then you also have this

1:17:37

business acumen that is phenomenal. Obviously we talked about

1:17:39

you being the president of the MBPA I think

1:17:41

for a while now if you're still doing that.

1:17:43

No. You're out. Smart. Yeah. When you were doing

1:17:45

that we all thought it was very stupid. Two

1:17:47

months. I need you to get out of there.

1:17:50

Eight years. Eight years. Thank you for your service.

1:17:52

I got to learn

1:17:54

a lot which is helping me in business.

1:17:56

Yes you love the business world. Absolutely. Enjoy.

1:17:58

Like this is fun for you. to kind of

1:18:00

feel it, build the brand, get into it. How many

1:18:02

different things are you kind of? I'm gonna tell you

1:18:04

this, Pat. How many years did you play? Eight. Eight,

1:18:07

AJ, what about 11? You know what I'm

1:18:09

saying? And I asked that

1:18:11

because this is just a snapshot of your

1:18:13

life, right? You got to play eight

1:18:16

years. This is going into my 20th year. I just turned

1:18:18

39, right? It's a lot

1:18:20

of life. Happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday. Yeah, no, I mean,

1:18:22

this year I turned 39. Oh, we missed

1:18:24

a lot of birthdays. Yeah, last one too.

1:18:26

But y'all know, like I know, you

1:18:29

got to do something else. You know what I mean?

1:18:32

You got to do something else. So along this journey,

1:18:34

you got to figure out what you're into. When did

1:18:36

you know you wanted to do this? Move,

1:18:39

that's a great question. I

1:18:41

have no idea. Exactly, but you figured it out.

1:18:43

During career though, during career. Start thinking about next

1:18:45

career. Exactly, you got to do that, man. But

1:18:47

you got to keep the main thing the main

1:18:49

thing. No, don't get that twisted now. That's

1:18:52

what gives you the opportunity. Sometimes people only care

1:18:54

what you think because of what you're doing, right?

1:18:56

Don't ever put the other things in front of

1:18:58

the main thing, you know what I'm saying? But

1:19:00

there's a lot of downtime, you know that. Yes.

1:19:03

As a professional athlete. How's the body feel, 20

1:19:05

years in? Body feels good. Went over to Cary

1:19:07

Academy. Shout out to that school who let me

1:19:09

come over there and work out. Not a very

1:19:11

Cary Academy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shot the lights off

1:19:13

and that thing. Yeah, me and TJ Warren went

1:19:15

in there. Oh, nice. Got to work out

1:19:17

it. Okay, now there's a lot of people in here in the

1:19:19

city. TJ Watt also walking around. I assume he's getting a workout

1:19:22

somewhere in this side, alongside JJ. The

1:19:24

NBA obviously massive daily. The finals kind of

1:19:26

tip off. This Celtics team, the

1:19:28

conversation is, if they don't win, blow it up.

1:19:31

They're supposed to be in the finals, what, since

1:19:33

the middle of the season, it seems like. Why

1:19:36

is it like that with that particular team?

1:19:38

And do you think Kyrie and Luca have

1:19:40

enough to maybe topple the odds on favorite

1:19:42

Celtics? It's probably like that just because Boston's

1:19:44

been there. Right, they've been there. They've been

1:19:46

to the finals, they won. I mean, he

1:19:48

got the KG jersey on over here. You

1:19:50

know what I mean? Anything's possible. Yeah, baby.

1:19:52

But at this point in the season, both

1:19:54

teams feel like they can win. In Dallas,

1:19:56

they've been building, they hooping. They were leaving

1:19:58

their team. Honestly think

1:20:00

like not even trying to it's gonna be a really

1:20:02

good series Yeah, six or sevens where everybody saying Connors

1:20:04

got a question How do you feel about the playoffs

1:20:06

as a whole like obviously it's a one seed versus

1:20:08

six seed So in the West is a little more

1:20:10

different going into the playoffs That was the thing like

1:20:12

hey the West is gonna be great. The East is

1:20:14

gonna be the Celtics How do you feel about the

1:20:16

NBA as a whole and do you think there needs

1:20:18

to be a little more in the East? Do you

1:20:21

think a guy has to kind of come over? Do

1:20:23

you think injuries? Well, it's funny I've been in the

1:20:25

West my whole career and never even

1:20:27

been in the East You know, I mean so West

1:20:29

has been like that my whole career But you can

1:20:31

only play against who's in front of you, you know,

1:20:33

I mean I didn't realize it was a one seed

1:20:36

the six seed because Dallas is so good some of

1:20:38

these teams the seedings depending on injuries Y'all know, you

1:20:40

know the seeding don't really mean nothing once you get

1:20:42

to hook them Do teams think about that like for

1:20:44

Dallas during the year? It was like hey, obviously they

1:20:47

were kind of floating in that playing game But teams

1:20:49

think like if it's a Luke and a Kyrie Hey,

1:20:51

we just got to get through these 82 like

1:20:54

we need to make sure that we're in that top. So, you know, it's

1:20:56

funny Like I've been on the

1:20:58

competition committee for a long time too. So I remember

1:21:00

when we introduced this play in game and all this

1:21:02

stuff so Before

1:21:04

the play in game. It's like guys, let's get through

1:21:06

this this season, right? Let's just get

1:21:08

through healthy But now with the play and I think

1:21:11

teams are very like we at least want to be

1:21:13

a top six seed You don't want to have to

1:21:15

play any unnecessary games if you don't have to think

1:21:17

yeah LeBron James said that Joe Mazzull is a genius

1:21:19

How much does coaching come into play because I as

1:21:23

a non basketball person love

1:21:25

watching basketball But as a non

1:21:27

basketball playing person I assume that your guys is

1:21:29

basketball IQ so high coach just kind of has

1:21:31

to keep personalities and everybody rowing in the same

1:21:34

direction I think what Missoula did against the Pacers

1:21:36

was a couple different times. You start attacking them

1:21:38

differently Coaching very important in the

1:21:40

NBA coaching is important coaching is important But it

1:21:42

depends on what type of team you have right

1:21:44

sometimes you might have so much talent that you

1:21:46

just got to be Like a

1:21:48

manager of people right a manager of personalities

1:21:51

But depending on how young your team is

1:21:53

what the basketball IQ is of your team

1:21:55

There's nothing like going into a timeout knowing

1:21:57

that your coach gonna drop a great play

1:22:00

right, and coaches that can communicate with their players because

1:22:02

y'all know when you play, you know, sometimes you're like,

1:22:04

man, we need to blitz this time. Damn, we need

1:22:06

to blitz. And so you want to have a coach

1:22:08

that you can, that you can talk to about what's

1:22:10

happening. You know what I mean? I'll let you know

1:22:12

what you see, you let us know what we see.

1:22:14

And I think Missoula, I mean, he's what, like 36,

1:22:17

37. You know what I mean?

1:22:19

So youngest coach in the finals since 1966. Bill

1:22:23

Russell. Bill Russell. Yeah. So I feel like he gets

1:22:25

it. A lot of coaches get it and understand that

1:22:27

that dialogue is important. Well, like listening to the dialogue

1:22:29

and then actually enacting it is a whole different animal.

1:22:31

Yeah, that's like a respect thing. It's a respect thing.

1:22:33

It's a pride thing. You got to understand we all

1:22:36

got the same goal. I'm not trying to show you

1:22:38

up. You ain't trying to show me up. We just

1:22:40

trying to win. Let's talk about Dan Hurley. Okay, I

1:22:42

don't know. College guys in the NFL have not done

1:22:44

what not. I mean, there's been a couple that have

1:22:46

made it obviously people say that I Pete Carroll was

1:22:49

a college guy because he coached in college, but he

1:22:51

started in the NFL. Save

1:22:53

all of our big time coaches in college

1:22:55

football have tried to make it in the

1:22:57

NFL and he's not gone well because it's

1:22:59

two different humans, two different lifestyles, two different

1:23:01

operations, you don't have nearly as much control.

1:23:03

How do you feel about Dan Hurley potentially

1:23:05

getting the gig over there for the Lakers?

1:23:07

And obviously your type with LeBron? How would

1:23:09

he feel with somebody like Dan Hurley coming

1:23:11

in there from what we know about him

1:23:13

outside looking at? Yeah, I don't know how

1:23:15

he would feel first and foremost. I don't

1:23:17

know. Speak for LeBron. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

1:23:19

Speak for LeBron. That's what's not gonna happen.

1:23:21

Right. But as far as Dan Hurley, I

1:23:23

woke up just like y'all, you know, to

1:23:25

that news or whatnot. And half

1:23:28

of this stuff you don't know if it's true.

1:23:30

Right? Well, Sean's told us yesterday JJ. Yeah,

1:23:32

Sean's literally told us yesterday. He wasn't

1:23:35

the only one everybody. I know JJ. He was my

1:23:37

teammate. Yeah. You know what I mean? He would have

1:23:39

been good coach. He didn't get him. Regardless. I'm just

1:23:41

saying he ain't necessarily got believe everything

1:23:43

you hear. You know what I mean?

1:23:45

Like, no, I'm just saying like you

1:23:47

you play right. Yes. A lot of bullshit. I

1:23:50

used to have Aaron right. Every what was it

1:23:52

Monday? Tuesday. Tuesday. My bad. players mess up too.

1:23:54

Every Tuesday. Tuesday, right? So all the stuff that

1:23:56

would be going out there circulating about him. You

1:23:58

knew what was true and was not agreed right

1:24:00

same thing with all the other stuff saying that

1:24:03

this is gonna be the coach of that right

1:24:05

so you just never know but as far as

1:24:07

Dan Hurley I got so much respect for him

1:24:09

because not just how he coaches but how his

1:24:11

players respond to him you know

1:24:14

being players you can see that when a coach

1:24:16

is coaching if everybody is like in the huddle

1:24:18

you know like listening you know you can see

1:24:20

the way that guys like during a free throw

1:24:22

on him the body language guys huddle up or

1:24:25

whatnot so I think ultimately if he does make

1:24:27

that decision he'll definitely have that respect. Is it

1:24:30

so you think you automatically have success because of

1:24:32

the respect because of the success

1:24:35

that he had ecology maybe but it's a

1:24:37

different game and you're dealing with different things now

1:24:40

with NIO though college kids getting money you

1:24:42

know what I mean NBA guys getting money

1:24:44

too so I'm I'm just as interested

1:24:46

as y'all are to see what happens. Go ahead

1:24:48

Ty. Chris obviously you still want to play you

1:24:50

feel like you've got a lot left to give

1:24:52

but you did a lot of the analyst stuff

1:24:54

around the panel you know throughout the playoffs doing

1:24:56

the media side of it does

1:24:59

that trigger anything like oh you know like

1:25:01

when I'm done maybe I wouldn't mind being up

1:25:03

there and starting something like you know Shaq and

1:25:05

Kenny and all those guys. Not really I'm gonna

1:25:07

tell you it's funny because when

1:25:10

I did the show it was such a great

1:25:12

time right because I have a different a newfound

1:25:14

respect for all that goes into it right the

1:25:16

preparation y'all know like it's a lot like. Arshad's

1:25:19

a little different. Y'all talking

1:25:22

that like y'all don't know nothing but y'all probably

1:25:24

got an email chain or something y'all got production

1:25:26

calls. Group text. No production calls. We got a

1:25:28

group text. Once upon a time. No never.

1:25:30

Everything runs to the group text Chris and that's what to

1:25:32

be clear we probably should do more of that other stuff

1:25:34

you're talking about because we end up in some shit. But

1:25:37

anyways go ahead you're great on TV. Appreciate it

1:25:39

appreciate it but it was it was a lot

1:25:41

that went into it but at the end of

1:25:43

the day we was talking basketball and I respected

1:25:45

the people that I was up there with but

1:25:47

I'm still in the locker room right so I'll

1:25:49

tell you I'll tell you straight up like when

1:25:51

you're like you want to pick your nine picking

1:25:53

because the way that I'm wired right

1:25:55

if you pick against me yeah we got a problem right

1:25:57

don't come in the locker room and sit next to me.

1:26:00

to me. We're going to have a conversation.

1:26:02

And that's what got Draymond in trouble a little bit

1:26:04

because you know you had the stuff with Rudy O'Bear

1:26:06

and Carl Anthony Towns. It was kind of going at

1:26:08

them a little bit and then after Minnesota won that

1:26:11

game and all those guys were like

1:26:13

hey just out of solidarity with our guys we're not going

1:26:15

to go do the post game. But

1:26:17

to each his own. You know what I'm saying?

1:26:19

To each his own and Draymond who I have

1:26:21

a crazy history with but got out. Damn.

1:26:24

You got bugs? Yeah you got to fix that.

1:26:26

Hey these North Carolina bugs. They're not playing. Yeah

1:26:28

they might be the only thing that has been

1:26:31

negative is the amount of bugs. So

1:26:33

Dray I got a chance to know him this

1:26:36

year as teammates. Man one of my

1:26:38

favorite teammates I ever played with because we're wired the

1:26:40

same. As far as

1:26:42

competitive edge, wants to win and

1:26:45

that's not for everybody. You

1:26:47

two got along that was a big story when Rudy

1:26:49

got traded up there. It's always a story. Always a

1:26:51

story. Well you've been in the league for 20 years

1:26:53

so obviously it's got to be so. Did

1:26:56

you punch him in the face first practice Jordan Poole? Run

1:26:59

it back. But what we did though is we went to

1:27:01

dinner. I mean we went to lunch. As soon as I

1:27:03

got traded I sent him a text. You

1:27:06

know what I mean? Yo we need to talk. That's

1:27:08

what adults do. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying?

1:27:10

You don't talk through the media. You let all these

1:27:12

people make up whatever story they want to and I

1:27:14

mean it when I say it's one of my favorite teammates I ever had

1:27:16

in my career. Where'd you guys go get lunch? What'd you order? Wouldn't

1:27:20

you like to know? I would. I want to

1:27:22

know what the vibe was. You want to know what the vibe was? Was it

1:27:24

like a sandwich place? Was it like a cafe? Steak

1:27:26

house? Hotel Bel Air. Ooh. Okay.

1:27:29

You and me guys. I forgot. I

1:27:32

forgot. I forgot. Yeah. Absolutely. We

1:27:34

got a couple of steaks. What

1:27:36

do we do? It was lunch

1:27:38

man. I don't know what you guys do. You rich guys do.

1:27:40

You can eat steak. Rich guy. You

1:27:42

just broke the bank. What you talking

1:27:45

about? A couple of times. Right. Right.

1:27:47

But it was good lunch. It was a good lunch. It was a

1:27:49

good lunch we're saying. I like that Eastside golf shirt you got on

1:27:51

too. I love their stuff.

1:27:53

Everything they have is pretty solid. So you're

1:27:56

entering your 20th season correct? Yep. 19

1:27:58

years ago. How is the league different? When

1:28:00

you walked in 19 years ago, I always

1:28:02

went not only schematically and how the tight, like the pace

1:28:04

of play, but how are the guys different? What's the locker

1:28:07

room like now compared to that? Hey, football, that's a big

1:28:09

difference now. Big difference. Basketball it

1:28:11

is too, but I'll tell you this, the

1:28:14

guys are a lot more talented. Yeah. Like

1:28:17

seriously. Everybody can shoot, huh? Everybody

1:28:19

can shoot. That athleticism, it's

1:28:23

just cool to see, you know what I mean? To

1:28:25

see what these guys can do when they come into

1:28:27

the league that it may have took

1:28:29

me years to understand

1:28:31

or realize, right? Because the pick and roll, all

1:28:34

this stuff, these kids are already snaking the pick

1:28:36

and roll. I ain't do the

1:28:38

Euro step, I think, till the 2008 playoffs. Right.

1:28:41

I don't think till the 2008 playoffs against the

1:28:43

Spurs. And now, I mean, my son, 15,

1:28:46

he was doing it when he was eight. So

1:28:49

the league is in good hands, I'll tell you that much.

1:28:51

Are guys still tight? Like are locker rooms as tight as

1:28:54

they once were? Yeah, locker rooms are tight. But as you

1:28:56

all know, everything has changed with

1:28:58

cell phones and people got EMP. Did you

1:29:00

guys go out? People have people too. So

1:29:02

like NFL locker rooms. Yeah. There's

1:29:05

a good old saying that some really smart man

1:29:07

said that teams come together around a keg a

1:29:09

lot more than they do kale. Right.

1:29:11

So like football, I feel like a masterpiece of

1:29:13

the team building was like actually going out together,

1:29:16

having a good time. Obviously, you have Mormons and

1:29:18

stuff that won't drink, but at least they're there,

1:29:20

you know, having a good time. Then the cameras

1:29:22

on the bunch kind of changed everything in the

1:29:24

football culture. And I think that is a little

1:29:26

bit of a difference in the generation. The NBA

1:29:28

guys, did you guys used to go out? It

1:29:31

changed. And I'll be straight with you

1:29:33

like, look,

1:29:36

players and everybody having our podcasts and our

1:29:39

ways to tell our stories or whatnot. I just

1:29:41

think we always got to be able to tell

1:29:43

our stories without telling everything. You know what I

1:29:45

mean? Like some of those team bonding events or

1:29:48

whatnot, drinking or whatnot. You know what I'm saying?

1:29:50

Like sometimes that's where you build camaraderie. Yes. But

1:29:52

now I think, you know, a guy, you

1:29:55

know, you just never know if a guy is going to

1:29:57

cut this guy out or something like that because. years

1:30:00

from now he gonna hear somebody talking about it. Well

1:30:02

yeah, especially with you. Like the clip

1:30:04

show just came out. The Clippers show around

1:30:06

that entire thing. Oh my God. Is

1:30:10

that something you think about? Like hey are they

1:30:12

gonna tell all these stories during our time of the walk-through? Well you

1:30:14

know what's funny? I'm gonna keep it 100 with you. Me and my

1:30:16

wife watched the first episode. Right? And it was

1:30:18

kind of cringy. Honestly, because

1:30:21

you got somebody who's telling

1:30:23

their vantage point of... Perspective.

1:30:25

One perspective. Yeah, one perspective. You're a part of

1:30:27

the show. Chris Paul is a character in the

1:30:29

show. Yeah. Yeah and I see my wife. I

1:30:31

see my wife kicking it with Donald Sterling's wife.

1:30:33

And I was like what? That ain't never happened.

1:30:36

You know what I mean? And

1:30:38

being in the production space and knowing how movies work and

1:30:40

all that. And then it's

1:30:42

funny man. My brother saw like

1:30:45

the credits and what not. Let's just say

1:30:47

it was crazy. Who's playing you? Are you

1:30:49

pumped about who's playing you? Handsome enough? It's

1:30:51

better than Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. We

1:30:54

know that. Whoever did that, it was taking

1:30:56

a shot. People got a job

1:30:58

to do or what not. I mean

1:31:00

it's a show. Do they consult with you

1:31:02

at all? No. No, no,

1:31:05

no, no. I actually seen Blake a few

1:31:07

weeks ago somewhere. I don't know where

1:31:09

I seen Blake. But we talked about it. Like JJ,

1:31:11

we talked. Like DeAndre Jordan. I talk to DJ about

1:31:13

it every day. You know what I mean? So I

1:31:16

have no idea what's going to be on that show

1:31:18

or what not. But we lived it and we sort

1:31:20

of know the real. I'm

1:31:22

excited to get your takes on it on the podcast hopefully.

1:31:25

You'll be able to kind of either dispute it. That's like

1:31:27

Showtime with the Lakers. Bingo. That

1:31:29

show, like we started watching it because I'm like, oh, this

1:31:31

is a documentary. I'm watching a

1:31:33

documentary right now of what happened. And then like

1:31:35

every person that was portrayed in that thing was

1:31:37

like, that's not how it was. I watched that

1:31:40

too because I was interested in seeing what it

1:31:42

was. You know, when I watched the clip that

1:31:44

first episode or whatnot, I seen that white

1:31:46

party. Did we use that? Y'all seen it? Who's seen it?

1:31:48

I don't know. Just seen the clips. I haven't seen the

1:31:50

full episode. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was like a white party.

1:31:54

White party? Yeah. Donald Sterling's

1:31:56

having white parties? They didn't have a white party when I

1:31:58

was there. So that. Donald certainly

1:32:00

said it. You're only allowed to wear the color of

1:32:02

the skin that I like. Is

1:32:06

that what he said? You are. What

1:32:09

else y'all got? OK. What else are we

1:32:11

talking about? We got Bojangles up here. Hey, you

1:32:14

know Bojangles? You know

1:32:16

Bojangles? I used to. There's a Bojangles right down the

1:32:18

street from my house. He's 20 years in. I don't

1:32:20

think he's going to be eating his skin. Well, yeah,

1:32:22

he worked out this morning. Yeah, he earned that bitch.

1:32:24

Did y'all have it? Did y'all try it? Oh, yeah.

1:32:26

Yeah, why? Did you get some sweet tea? Huyte? What's

1:32:29

it called? Sweet tea. Huyte? Sweet

1:32:31

tea. You talk about huyte tea? Knock

1:32:33

it off. You

1:32:35

southern people speak a little bit slower. You know, it's

1:32:37

hard to keep up. Let's talk about the future of

1:32:39

the NBA. Yeah. Because Ant-Man was

1:32:41

just getting crowned. Boom, boom, boom. That became

1:32:43

the conversation of the playoffs. It's like the

1:32:45

NBA has its next space. It's Anthony Edwards.

1:32:47

The way he goes about doing his thing.

1:32:49

And then Luca seemingly heard that and was

1:32:51

like, what do we even talk? Is

1:32:53

that something that in locker rooms chatted about? And

1:32:55

how do the OGs kind of manage the conversation

1:32:58

about who's the next one? And how do we

1:33:00

find the next one? And is there a next

1:33:02

one? Yeah, I don't think it's just the next

1:33:04

one. Right? Like all these guys

1:33:06

be so good in their own right. And

1:33:08

I think with the way media works today,

1:33:11

you're only as good as your last game. So

1:33:14

everybody will be talking about Luca one minute. Then

1:33:16

Shay started killing. And everybody was talking about Shay.

1:33:18

Then it's Anthony Edwards. Then it's the next person.

1:33:20

You know what I mean? Everybody was in love

1:33:22

with JT. You know what I mean? Just a

1:33:24

second ago. So I think for those guys, they just got

1:33:27

to keep their head down, keep doing the work. Who

1:33:29

do you like? Who do I like?

1:33:31

Yeah. Sound like a lot of the guys in the

1:33:33

loop right now. I'm a Wimby. That's just different. Oh,

1:33:36

man. You want to go play with him? Wimby is

1:33:38

different. Wimby is the guy that after the game in

1:33:40

the locker room, we all was

1:33:42

talking about playing against him. Because we literally all

1:33:44

had to change the way we shot a little

1:33:46

bit. Yeah, because there's highlights of like Steph Curry

1:33:48

driving into the lane, having a

1:33:50

wide open shot, and being like, nah, nah,

1:33:52

nah. It wasn't just Steph. It was half

1:33:54

the league. It was just in a 45

1:33:57

second clip of like 10-stuck. Yeah, you saw that,

1:33:59

right? Yes. Yeah. My favorite shot obviously is when I

1:34:01

snake back to the right and I shoot a fade away

1:34:04

Right and I got a picture of when be trying to block

1:34:06

my shot man. I shot the ball so high. I

1:34:08

didn't make it I

1:34:10

usually don't have to shoot it that high You know I

1:34:12

mean but he and I think he

1:34:14

he's gonna be so successful too because he's

1:34:17

very competitive and he's likable Right

1:34:19

and he loves the game and you don't

1:34:21

see guys that size moving away He moves

1:34:23

they've been preparing him in his body. He's

1:34:26

been doing like foot and I don't seen

1:34:28

that He's seen how flexible and honest they've

1:34:30

been doing it since he's like 12 years

1:34:32

old. I guess yes, they knew something yeah,

1:34:34

well I don't know how

1:34:36

tall he was then but right now you look at him That's

1:34:40

something That

1:34:42

one's an alien there's another one over there too.

1:34:44

That's like 12 years old 13 years old. He's

1:34:46

already sick He's saying that too. Oh, yeah We

1:34:51

got one too though USA just people leaves

1:34:53

by 96 points. Did you see that are

1:34:55

you 18 team? No, I

1:34:57

see that USA beat police by 96 150

1:35:01

256 54 got a 73 white kid. Yeah,

1:35:03

there is right there 150 to 54 right

1:35:05

there USA vs. Police

1:35:08

bigger TV to your left he's 73 already.

1:35:10

Oh, yeah, okay. He's gonna Purdue. He's gonna

1:35:12

dominate the big 10 We need to

1:35:15

see if we got that picture Y'all

1:35:17

know how I know him. Hmm. Y'all know when

1:35:19

we met where down Bahamas and down in the

1:35:21

Bahamas Yeah, you and Del very easy this right

1:35:23

here. Oh, it's a golf thing. Yeah Yeah, the

1:35:26

golf tournament. He was the only one out there

1:35:28

playing golf with no shoes on. Yeah. Well hidden

1:35:30

bombs Thank you.

1:35:32

I appreciate you saying it in bombs because you and

1:35:34

Del Curry were making me cut out three foot Yeah,

1:35:36

I did not make all of them. That was a

1:35:38

blast down there. You've always been involved in like seemingly

1:35:41

Everything business-wise that's why like with how busy

1:35:44

you've had to be to maintain such a

1:35:46

good career 20 years through You should be

1:35:48

incredibly proud Chris. I'm good Also

1:35:53

Straight out of wake I just got

1:35:55

the text message here. You got a

1:35:57

new vegan snack with plant-based snack

1:35:59

line Yeah, yeah, I know I'm vegan. You

1:36:02

want to only say vegan plant base. Whatever

1:36:04

you want to say Chris Paul is a

1:36:06

vegan and the as a New

1:36:09

snack with go. Yeah. Yeah, I want you to

1:36:11

try him. Absolutely. I got him I mean, I'm

1:36:13

a meat eater have been since the beginning because

1:36:15

the humans did that we won. Yep. Hell. Yeah.

1:36:17

Look at these Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll try them

1:36:19

out cookies and cream. Wait a minute That's

1:36:22

my shit. Let's see. Let's see try. So they're

1:36:24

supposed to be sweets Throw

1:36:27

me them to a What's his name?

1:36:29

Hey Jay AJ you look cool, bro another

1:36:32

Whoo It's a little popcorn

1:36:35

with some flavoring seemingly tell me what you

1:36:37

think called good eating popcorn. How long has

1:36:39

this been around? Three

1:36:42

years three years. Okay, start we doing scratch are

1:36:45

we in stores? We're

1:36:47

on go puff go puff right now go puff

1:36:49

is one of our partners. Don't pop these door

1:36:51

dashboard Donuts are fired. Yeah, this

1:36:53

one's really good. These ones are the ticket.

1:36:55

Holy. Yeah, this isn't healthy for me I

1:37:00

How healthy is this race gonna make me better soccer I don't

1:37:03

know about that That was a nice.

1:37:05

That was a nice pass. You did yesterday though. That

1:37:07

was tough I'm

1:37:10

sure y'all didn't showed it on the show. Oh,

1:37:12

oh, yeah, oh, yeah, Chris. We've shown it a

1:37:14

hundred times Yeah, we will we will continue to

1:37:16

do so and as a point guard. I know

1:37:19

you would appreciate man. Listen, it's tough

1:37:21

though I absolutely want to

1:37:23

play when I finish playing like when I

1:37:25

retire there go right there. Yeah, pretty clean.

1:37:27

Yeah, that's pretty fun Man, I can't say

1:37:29

thank you enough for y'all being down here

1:37:31

man. Seriously bringing Eyeballs here

1:37:33

to North Carolina and the festival style that

1:37:36

we have with all these games. Did you

1:37:38

get it? Yes Awesome

1:37:42

this whole entire this whole entire complex unreal you

1:37:44

guys have done great and we can't thank you

1:37:47

enough for You know kind of

1:37:49

piecing it together and also being the inspirational leader. Hey,

1:37:51

how about that ref? That's everybody hates you What's that

1:37:53

all about? Man? As

1:37:55

I was talking about you cuz like business wise I like look

1:37:57

at you and I'm like Chris is able to do this and

1:37:59

this You know, you know, you're an inspiration I want you to

1:38:02

know inspiration to me though the way you handle your business I

1:38:04

know just like the bubble thing that happened with you and Bob

1:38:06

kind of piecing that together like as a

1:38:08

player I want to let you know I look at

1:38:10

you as like a very inspirational business person So whenever

1:38:12

I hear that some ref comes out and goes Frisballs

1:38:15

a piece of shit. Yeah, you know, I do not

1:38:18

love that. I'm gonna tell you listen It's

1:38:20

probably a lot more to feel like that I'm

1:38:23

gonna be honest with you, but that ref I had to

1:38:25

look him up when he said what was his name? He

1:38:30

was in the league for a long time and you probably

1:38:32

can guess who one of his homeboys is He

1:38:37

was probably mad that I put him in that last State Farm

1:38:40

commercial You

1:38:43

know I'm talking about yes, I got a State Farm

1:38:45

commercial with the referee Yeah, and he probably wanted to

1:38:47

be in it. No, but you work the refs a

1:38:49

little bit all the time Yeah, all the time and

1:38:51

hold on. It's you and Scott Foster right every time

1:38:53

he refs your game. You don't win You

1:38:56

said it It

1:38:59

worked the coaches too, I mean Steve Curry Steve

1:39:01

Kerr thinks that you think he's hilarious and Unfortunately,

1:39:04

you don't think he's better if you're calling that

1:39:06

video him walking off, but you were with the

1:39:08

Rockets still right Yeah, see if you're like made

1:39:10

a joke and he did the That

1:39:19

was in a playoff game I think a lot of

1:39:21

things with the refs too is like obviously I know

1:39:23

the game I'm on the competition committee right so knowing

1:39:25

the rules and of course you can say smart things

1:39:27

a lot of times You know I mean sometimes they'll

1:39:29

say stuff back, but yeah, that was

1:39:32

that was interesting that he said that we

1:39:34

don't he'll never see me though He'll

1:39:38

never see me though, so we got out of

1:39:40

my pops up there my dad really my dad

1:39:42

right up there with the hat on Yeah, yeah,

1:39:45

mr. Paul Hey, you done

1:39:47

good sir. You done really good. I know your

1:39:49

grandpa very important, too I think the last time we chat with you

1:39:51

as part of your book your grandpa, right? First

1:39:53

gas station in North Carolina. Yeah down in West

1:39:55

of Salem owned by a black guy. Yep in

1:39:58

North Carolina, sir And you took a look at

1:40:00

that a lot of his kind of messages, implement

1:40:02

them yourself, pretend the person you are. Obviously dad,

1:40:04

look how handsome dad is. Wow. Jade

1:40:07

up, two up there, no doubt. Are you not hot

1:40:09

as shit, dad? It is a thousand degrees out

1:40:11

here, I assume you're used to it. I play golf every day to end

1:40:13

in Y. How's the end in Y?

1:40:16

How are you at golf? You're still good? Yeah, I could use

1:40:18

some work. I had another hand surgery this

1:40:20

season. I didn't know that. Yeah.

1:40:22

How is body? We're good. Yeah, did

1:40:24

y'all see Tory Holt? Nope. Tory

1:40:27

Holt was walking around. His fingers look great, don't they? I

1:40:29

had never seen his fingers. Look at his left, look

1:40:32

at his pinky. No,

1:40:34

turn that thing sideways. I got

1:40:36

like, oh, oh, oh, oh. What

1:40:39

about the puke? Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now,

1:40:41

if you can get Tory to come up here and

1:40:43

show you his finger, it's turned that way. We

1:40:46

took a picture over there cause I done had five hand

1:40:48

surgeries. I got 16 screws and a metal

1:40:50

plate in this hand, 15 screws

1:40:52

and a metal plate in this hand. Thumb

1:40:54

surgery after the 2012 Olympics, 2017

1:40:57

thumb surgery and right after the NBA

1:41:00

finals. Exactly, for basketball,

1:41:02

I see. Basketball is

1:41:04

all from still in the ball. You

1:41:06

know the NBA NFL conversation that Austin

1:41:08

Rivers started on our show? Remind

1:41:13

me, the one with JJ replied to him. Yeah, yeah,

1:41:15

yeah. Well, JJ was in the middle of a workout.

1:41:17

He got a contact. He was a little jacked up,

1:41:19

a little jacked up in that entire thing. He was

1:41:21

jacked up. Yeah, he was a little jacked up. He

1:41:23

just got out of a squat rack. I actually FaceTimed

1:41:25

him immediately after he sent that. I was like, hey,

1:41:27

he never said he would be a guy to

1:41:29

be able to drive. JJ's breathing, oh, I threw

1:41:31

up your asshole. God, shit. But

1:41:34

the NBA NFL thing, have you put much thought into

1:41:36

that? I didn't know you had that many surgeries on

1:41:38

your hands. Obviously tough guy. I mean, that's how it

1:41:40

goes. Everybody says you guys are soft though. That's the

1:41:42

big argument against NBA guys. Not being able to make

1:41:44

it to the NFL. That's not me. I'm starting with

1:41:47

the internet was saying about the conversation. It's funny cause

1:41:49

you'll find a lot of football guys who used to

1:41:51

hoop and a lot of buzz used to play football.

1:41:54

Right, so I played varsity football as a

1:41:56

freshman at sophomore high school and played JB

1:41:58

basketball. I

1:42:00

love football. I played quarterback. I played middle

1:42:02

linebacker. I played Pop Warner since I was

1:42:04

little You know what I mean? Like I

1:42:06

played Pop Warner went to Orlando for the national championship Like

1:42:09

I was football like this is North

1:42:11

Carolina, right? It's just crazy that once

1:42:14

we started finding out all the stuff about you know

1:42:16

getting hit in the head and stuff My kid my

1:42:18

son wanted to play football, but I wouldn't let him

1:42:20

but I wouldn't be the basketball player that I am

1:42:22

If it wasn't for if I didn't play football. Yeah,

1:42:25

you're a football. Yeah, that's why I don't mind physicality

1:42:27

or what Yeah, that's why the refs ain't your football.

1:42:29

Yeah, yeah I'm

1:42:31

actually happy to hear that Austin Rivers needs to maybe

1:42:33

listen to what was just said. Yeah Well, that's the

1:42:35

thing like Chris. He just said he played middle linebacker and

1:42:37

quarterback Austin Rivers You know, he he went out there

1:42:39

put the pads on for 10 minutes got yelled at

1:42:41

and then crying went home to his dad That's your story.

1:42:44

That's what I said. Oh, that's what he said turn on

1:42:46

our show not to cry and went on to his

1:42:48

dad But I see him on the back laughing cuz

1:42:50

that wasn't happening. You know, we

1:42:52

were playing bull in the ring, you know

1:42:54

We played throw a tackle in the backyard

1:42:59

So new era NBA not really like that, right? Yeah,

1:43:02