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PMS 2.0 1145 - Shams Charania, Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Kaboly, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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PMS 2.0 1145 - Shams Charania, Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Kaboly, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1145 - Shams Charania, Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Kaboly, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1145 - Shams Charania, Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Kaboly, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1145 - Shams Charania, Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Kaboly, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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0:00

Hello beautiful people and welcome

0:02

to our humble abode the thunderdome

0:04

on this big tuesday june

0:06

11th 2024

0:09

this program starts right now Sports

0:13

are the greatest and we're in the

0:15

middle of two final series for the

0:17

mba. It's two zip boston celtics as

0:19

they travel down to dallas To game

0:21

three tomorrow against the mavericks and then

0:24

in the nhl last night The florida

0:26

panthers took a two zip lead over

0:28

the edmonton weathers after giving up one

0:31

Early and then storming back and scoring

0:33

four straight including an empty netter at

0:35

the end to win four to one

0:37

if both of these Ending clean sweeps.

0:39

We will certainly say wow that was

0:41

a dominant performance, but we will also be Incredibly

0:44

bummed because that means the end of

0:46

these two is right around the corner

0:48

We think the dallas mavericks luka and

0:50

kirey are going to show up We

0:52

think dry saddle and connor mcdavid are

0:55

going to show up But if they

0:57

don't you're talking about dominant doves in

0:59

the nhl and the mba that we

1:01

will certainly have to celebrate today We

1:03

have sham sharonia joining us in about

1:05

10 minutes or so I wonder how

1:07

he's feeling after the whole dan hurley

1:09

to the lakers thing kind of cocked

1:11

his jj Reddick to the los angeles

1:14

lakers thing that obviously doesn't take place. We

1:16

have quotes from dan hurley We have a lot

1:18

to talk about there then we'll be joined

1:20

by matthew kichuk Star for

1:22

the florida panther is a man who's turned

1:24

around an entire franchise On alone

1:26

obviously with a bunch of different people fresh off

1:29

a big win. It's getting physical down Oh, yeah

1:31

What are his thoughts on closing this thing out

1:33

and edmonton's going to be a tough barn up

1:35

there? Can't wait to chitchat with him then in

1:37

the second hour mark caboli from the athletic We'll

1:39

join us to chitchat about mike tomlin's side and

1:41

extension for the pittsburgh steelers And also a

1:44

little nfl convo because there's some ota

1:46

starting some mandatory minicamp starting and there's

1:48

some people missing There's

1:50

some inexcused absences being announced big coaches,

1:52

uh robert solace at his son rettox

1:54

not here he's good though He's an

1:56

uh, he's an excuse. Yeah, he's an

1:58

excuse You're the only one missing

2:01

from Jets man to our minikip. No,

2:03

Aaron Rodgers also, inexcused absence he says. Won't you

2:05

chat about that? What is AJ Hocknow? Well, hour

2:08

two, we shall find out. The talkstables here at

2:10

Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt. Conman, I see your

2:12

hat. Obviously you're feeling the vibes because the Celtics

2:14

are up 2-0 and people are saying Drake May

2:16

is the guy. I mean, people are saying it,

2:19

but we can all see it with our own

2:21

eyes, gentlemen. I mean, he threw a dodge ball

2:23

200 miles per hour today at

2:25

a middle school and yeah, he rang up David

2:27

Andrews. I'm kind of worried he might've blown out

2:30

his knee because how hard he threw that dodge

2:32

ball, but vibes are very good in New England.

2:34

Obviously now is the time where I should be

2:36

wearing Patriot's gear because there is that possible chance

2:38

that we come around October and that if I

2:41

wear Patriot's gear, then you know, you're repping a

2:43

team, that's not going to be good, but it

2:45

feels as though they might be, honestly. And look

2:47

at that bullet from that guy. He also did

2:49

a standing dunk effortlessly. Athlete. Off

2:52

the vert. Yeah, I mean, they're saying

2:54

he's killing it in seven on seven.

2:56

He's killing it in practice. Obviously

2:59

team building event, dodge ball.

3:02

He's going for heads. He's,

3:04

Drake May might be the guy out of this

3:07

draft class, but there's a chance any of them

3:09

could be. What do you do in the spring?

3:11

Does not matter for when fall comes. Can he

3:13

read a defense? Can he break down a defense?

3:15

Can he make the easy ones? Is his footwork

3:18

good enough? Well, from everything we've been told by

3:20

Clyde Christensen and people around him, even his obnoxious

3:22

drunk uncle, this guy will go to work. This

3:24

guy will do everything he needs to do to

3:27

be a professional athlete. He

3:29

comes from a family of competition and athleticism,

3:31

and it's seemingly working out up in New

3:33

England. Congrats. You guys haven't won enough. No,

3:35

we have. I mean, Celtics up to low

3:37

in the NBA finals. Now, maybe you find

3:39

the guy for the next 15 years. He's

3:42

already taken photos with Tom Brady. And people are saying, wow, it

3:44

looks like Tom Brady's kid. And now

3:46

Drake May's dad, good man, uncle, piece of

3:48

trash. But I do. I do like everything

3:51

that Drake May's doing. And I assume you

3:53

can't wait to be loud and obnoxious about

3:55

this North Carolina tar heel through and through

3:57

being the next one in the NFL. Yeah,

3:59

yeah. It is a prospect that I didn't

4:02

really have going into this off season that

4:04

he would be possibly the starter

4:06

day one, but everything you're hearing is just up until

4:08

the end. No, no, no, he needs a year or

4:10

two. Exactly. He's got a lot to work

4:12

on. He's got too much to work on, they were saying,

4:14

but hey, every day is getting better.

4:17

And allegedly yesterday was like the staple. Okay,

4:19

this guy might've figured it out. Let's see

4:21

if he can continue to roll. And we

4:23

were talking about it. The clips out of

4:25

camp when they do go full pads against,

4:27

you know, 11 and 11 against that first

4:29

team defense. It's not going to be good.

4:31

Like the Patriots defense is still a very,

4:34

very good defense. Yeah, we were chatting yesterday

4:36

on fair that the first couple of weeks of training

4:38

camp, we need not judge Drake Mayoff where it takes

4:40

place because that defense is a pummeling defense. And that

4:42

can show up early in training camp and everybody loses

4:44

hope in the offense. Oh, this quarterback's crap. These wide

4:47

receivers can't get open. What about the running back? Is

4:49

the offensive line worth a single damn? Those are the

4:51

conversations the first couple of weeks of training camp. And

4:53

it's like, well, wait a second, maybe on the other

4:56

side of the ball. See

4:58

ball get ball. They are a little bit more advanced than

5:00

the offense is. So it's going to be hard to reserve

5:02

judgment, but when everything coming out of these now, they're

5:05

in shorts. They don't really have a lot

5:07

of pressure. No one's covering anybody. And that's

5:09

why OTA is a mandatory mini camp judgment

5:11

is awesome. But it's like all signs are

5:13

the Drake May is the perfect candidate for

5:15

the New England Patriots under a new owner

5:17

or not new ownership, new general manager, new

5:19

head coach, kind of Jonathan

5:21

Kraft. It's kind of a new guy.

5:24

Good for you. I'm happy that things are working

5:26

out up there. One half of the hammer down

5:28

Cowboys tone digs here. Obviously massive Pittsburgh Steelers fan,

5:30

Mike Tomlin signs a three year extension through 2027.

5:34

Now there's reports coming out that he was thinking

5:36

about maybe getting a TV, maybe going elsewhere, which

5:38

is why this deal probably had to get done.

5:40

Congrats to you guys getting a little bit more

5:42

consistency. 55 years, three

5:45

coaches, Pittsburgh

5:47

Steelers, Chuck Noll. He

5:49

had 12 playoff appearances during his

5:51

era, four Superbowl titles, four AFC

5:53

championship, Bill Carr. He had 10

5:55

playoff appearances as Superbowl title and

5:58

six AFC championship, Mike Tomlin. 11

6:01

playoff appearances, one Super Bowl 3

6:04

AFC Championship appearances with 17 consecutive

6:06

non-losing seasons, which we all know

6:08

is a very difficult thing to

6:11

do in the NFL. Now, is he

6:13

going to win a playoff game? Is he going to

6:15

win a Super Bowl? That is what the question is

6:17

over the next three years through 2027. What

6:19

are your expectations and how does Mike

6:22

Tomlin get through this with everybody saying,

6:24

yeah, that was a good move to

6:26

extend him another three years. Yeah, they're

6:28

the the locals. It was split yesterday

6:30

on whether they were happy or not

6:33

with the with the extension because of

6:36

you know, no playoff win since 2017,

6:38

which is which is alarming and it got really

6:40

really loud for Mike last year. Coach Tomlin last

6:43

year during you know the whole Mac Canada stuff

6:45

and you know, are we even trying is the

6:47

Steelers way done? Is it dead? There

6:50

has been bit of a rejuvenation.

6:52

I would say this offseason with you know,

6:54

the signing of the quarterbacks with the changing

6:56

of the offensive coordinator and all that everything

6:58

that they've added that there is a bit

7:01

of a just like every offseason.

7:03

There's a in the draft there. There's there's a

7:05

lot of positivity going in this this season, but

7:07

if the results are the same, it's going to

7:09

get loud again and I don't

7:11

know if it getting loud last year contributed

7:13

to the speculation on whether he

7:15

was going to walk away or go to a different team

7:17

or go to TV or what it was. I

7:21

love coach T. He's been my coach him

7:23

and Bill obviously Mr. Carr, but

7:26

I like the extension. How do you

7:29

feel about these photos right here? It's wild. Isn't it

7:31

crazy? You know, they say some things about how

7:33

people age. I'm

7:36

not gonna say it. No, no, but

7:38

cameras. We're talking cameras age. Technologies. I

7:40

got a left age more

7:44

kind of left looks like he may be

7:46

aged somehow 40 years and Tomlin

7:49

somehow got younger thereafter shaving the head. And

7:51

does the entire I liked it the beginning.

7:53

We're sure tie day. We're gonna lock this

7:56

thing up. We're young head coach. Nobody really

7:58

knew how the hell he got.

8:00

He got the gig in Pittsburgh whenever he was

8:02

signed from the Minnesota Vikings defensive secondary, I think.

8:04

Whenever he got the head coaching job. And in

8:07

Pittsburgh, obviously that's a massive chair. There had only

8:09

been two coaches in the last, whatever 40 years

8:12

before that. So who's the next head coach? Who's

8:14

it gonna be? And then Mike Tomlin gets hired.

8:16

And a lot of people in Pittsburgh go, who,

8:19

will you sign something? Pittsburgh

8:21

Steelers used to be a real organization. Pittsburgh

8:23

Steelers used to wanna actually win. Now we're

8:25

signing guys to be our head coach. Ain't

8:27

nobody ever heard of. He's in their shirt

8:29

and tie. And all he's done is take

8:31

Pittsburgh by storm. Obviously he and Ben Roffensperger

8:33

had an incredible run. The post Roffensperger era

8:35

has certainly been a questionable one. But will

8:37

Mike Tomlin be able to lead this squad

8:39

with two quarterbacks, brand new to the city,

8:41

back into the playoffs, back into a title

8:44

contendership. We shall see that's what he'll be

8:46

judged on. Stephen A. Smith, who is a

8:48

Pittsburgh Steelers fan, said that he thinks it's

8:50

the right move, but he doesn't think they

8:52

win a Super Bowl. So in Pittsburgh, they

8:54

say, then that's not the right move. Because

8:56

that's literally all people in Pittsburgh think about

8:58

is winning Super Bowls. Not easy right now

9:00

in the AFC though. So what are realistic

9:02

expectations, you think, for Tomlin over the next

9:04

few years, with two quarterbacks that just got

9:06

brought into the building, who both kind of

9:08

have their own shit to them. What are

9:10

your thoughts on that? I kind of agree

9:13

that it is the right move, keep it

9:15

and doing an extension with Coach Tomlin,

9:17

because I love Coach Tomlin. I think he is the right coach.

9:20

His Super Bowl was always the want,

9:22

always the expectation. But when you just

9:24

brought in Russell Wilson and Justin Fields

9:26

who, I

9:29

don't know if they're Super Bowl winning quarterbacks. Whoa!

9:31

It's Russell, he's already won one. Talking about that. Is

9:33

Mike Tomlin a Super Bowl winning coach? Yes. I

9:37

don't know yet. Russ won those Super Bowls a long time

9:39

ago. When Mike won his Super Bowl? Long

9:41

time ago as well. Okay. Okay.

9:43

So we got more belief in him. Yeah, but coaches,

9:45

you know, coaches age like a fine wine. Okay. You

9:48

see Russell Wilson, he's burying three. You see him in a uniform?

9:50

Oh yeah. He looks so

9:52

good. He looks so good. You're right.

9:54

He may be or aging just like

9:57

a quarterback. Oh, Russ? Yeah. Dude.

10:00

He looks younger than ever. Yeah, that was

10:02

the most Pittsburgh looking- He saved his head

10:04

too. That was the most Pittsburgh looking Steeler

10:06

quarterback I have ever seen in my entire

10:08

life. I believe we're trying to find the

10:10

photo right now. Russell Wilson is cheesin'. Oh

10:12

my God. Oh my God. Here, you're talking

10:14

about a guy that's getting paid a King's

10:16

ransom from another game. Coming into Pittsburgh, getting

10:18

paid absolutely nothing and being a hero around

10:20

town. This is Russell Wilson revenge cheesin'. Sure.

10:22

This is Russell Wilson's time to go. And

10:25

if he sucks, he's, look out here. Boom.

10:27

I mean, look at that guy. That's

10:29

Pittsburgh. I see that. That's Pittsburgh. Hear

10:32

the song. Here we go. Steeler's,

10:35

here we go. Russell's

10:38

going to the Super

10:41

Bowl. Here we go.

10:43

He's smiling big in

10:46

the town. Here

10:48

we go. He's Russell Wilson.

10:50

He's throwing it around. Here

10:53

we go. A little

10:55

corny butt. Who cares?

10:57

Because if he wins,

11:00

Pittsburgh's everywhere. Here we

11:02

go. And

11:04

then if he sucks, he's going to get

11:06

cooked, ruined by Pittsburgh shit talkers, which are

11:08

a bit savage bunch. And then Justin Fields

11:10

comes in. And wait a minute. There was

11:13

high hopes for Justin Fields too. Is he

11:15

going to be the one who's going to

11:17

take the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin to

11:19

the next level over the next three years?

11:22

We shall see. It's a beautiful time. I

11:24

actually hope Russ succeeds because

11:26

if he doesn't, Justin Fields comes in and say

11:28

he plays moderately well.

11:30

Okay. You're going to have

11:32

to pay Justin Fields off of one. Oh,

11:34

let's not worry about success. One season. And

11:37

I don't want to pay a quarterback, like,

11:39

I don't know, Daniel Jones off of one

11:41

season. And then you are screwed for the

11:43

next four. Justin Fields asked the Bears to

11:45

go to Pittsburgh. He did. He wants to

11:47

take care of it. That's obviously a big

11:49

news. We'll talk to Koboly in a second

11:51

hour. Can't wait to hear that. Nine year

11:53

NFL vet. Darius J. Butler's here. Darius, whenever

11:55

you think about the Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously you

11:58

think like hard nose football, good football, to

22:00

the Cavs. He's going to the Cavs. He's

22:03

interviewing for the Cavs. He's going to be one of the

22:05

finalists for the Cavs. I think their

22:07

process is playing out this week with in-person interviews.

22:09

I think next week there should be more clarity

22:11

on where their search goes. So listen, if the

22:14

Lakers want to go hire James Borrego, they've

22:16

had a month to hire James Borrego.

22:18

They've had a week this

22:20

week after losing out on Dan Hurley,

22:22

I guess. They've had this time

22:24

to go get James Borrego. I think when you

22:26

look at everything, Pat, you look at the offer

22:29

that the Lakers

22:35

made, it would have made him the sixth

22:37

highest paid coach in the league. When you

22:39

think about the highest paid coaches, Steve Kerr,

22:41

Greg Popovich, Eric Spolzer, Ty Lue, Monty Williams,

22:44

he's right there in that class. He hasn't

22:46

coached an NBA game and he hasn't won

22:48

a championship. And he's

22:50

already thrust in that spotlight

22:53

of being one of the top-aid coaches. So the

22:56

one thing I heard consistently around Dan Hurley,

22:58

around the situation over the weekend, and really

23:00

over the last few weeks as I've thought

23:02

about him, is it's never been about the

23:04

money. He's wired differently. Someone told me yesterday

23:07

he beats differently. He beats his own drama.

23:10

He's just different. And you see him as a

23:12

coach, how passionate he

23:14

is. And there were for sure questions

23:16

on how he would translate at the

23:18

next level. We saw there have been

23:20

coaches, Brad Stevens, I think came in

23:22

smoothly. Billy Donovan figured it out. But

23:24

there have been other coaches making that

23:26

jump that it just did not, the

23:30

leap wasn't made as cleanly. And John Beeline a

23:32

few years ago with the Cavaliers, that didn't go

23:34

well. So I think there definitely were questions. But

23:36

listen, it's a risk I guess you're

23:39

willing to take. But for Dan Hurley, it was

23:41

never about the money. If the

23:43

Lakers offer 10 million more, $15 million more, $70

23:46

million for six years for Dan Hurley would

23:48

have made him the six highest paid highest

23:50

paid coach. That is a significant offer to

23:52

me. A lot of people are on the

23:55

league. Got it. We see NBA contracts and

23:57

we see like some dude we've never heard

23:59

of who's fourth guy off the

24:01

bench getting $200 million. So whenever

24:03

we hear this conversation, we get a little bit

24:05

confused. Let's get back to JJ Riddick now. So

24:07

now JJ knows six years, $70 million is

24:10

what they were willing to pay for a

24:12

head coach at the Lakers organization. Does this

24:14

change negotiation? Is JJ pissed that he's now

24:16

second fiddle to Dan Hurley and everybody on

24:18

earth knows that he wasn't their first option?

24:21

How do you think this all works out

24:23

with JJ and the Lakers? If it is

24:25

still JJ and the Lakers? Yeah,

24:27

that's the thing. I don't think anyone really knows

24:30

where the Lakers go from here in totality because

24:32

you see how this process, this process has not

24:34

been a straight line, but I would say only

24:37

he can answer that question though. Like

24:39

how do you feel about really any

24:41

coach that's gonna get this job now?

24:43

It's this cloud that even

24:45

though it was an attempt at the last

24:48

second, it was a really a Hail

24:50

Mary throw. It

24:53

really to me, only the

24:55

candidates themselves can ask that. This

24:57

is the Lakers job. This is still

24:59

a big time job clearly with LeBron

25:01

James, with Anthony Davis, any

25:03

coach would walk to this situation if

25:06

they offer the job to either of

25:08

those two targets, JJ Riddick, James Brago.

25:12

I don't think there would be a lack of interest,

25:15

but really how peed, how upset, only they

25:17

can answer that. Yeah, and it's a head

25:19

coaching job, man. The back-to-back national championship. Head

25:21

coaching job in the NBA. Yeah, the back-to-back

25:23

national championship head coach is gonna get an

25:26

opportunity if he wants it. You know what

25:28

I mean? That is how it works. JJ

25:30

knows the game. How many head

25:32

coaches Lakers pair right now? Two? Vogel,

25:35

for sure. No paying him. Darvin Ham.

25:37

Darvin Ham, they're paying. They just tried

25:39

to pay Dan. I assume they'll pay

25:41

for something, his travel. They

25:43

put him up in a hotel. Are they gonna have a

25:45

coach? Pat, you gotta put your name in. You gotta just,

25:48

you might have to put your name in. Great

25:50

save you. If me and Tony Miola are coaching

25:52

together, I mean, I will certainly sign up for

25:54

it, but unless Tony's in, I'll maud it. You

25:56

know, that's kinda how it all goes. Let's pivot

25:59

away from the Lakers. because obviously it's a massive

26:01

conversation. We can't wait to see who wants coach

26:03

LeBron James and the Lakers. How about people just

26:05

be like, nah, don't want to do that. It's

26:07

the Lakers. It's the lake show.

26:10

I mean, still wants to win too. Yeah, I

26:12

saw him tweet that. He's showing his guy, don't

26:14

know me. He wants to do his thing. Is

26:17

he going to opt out here coming up in

26:19

June anyway? What do the Lakers look like? It

26:22

is a shit show for

26:24

the lake show currently seemingly optically from the

26:26

outside in, but you hire your coach that

26:28

you've wanted maybe all along in

26:30

JJ, you get LeBron back, you start making

26:32

some pieces. All of a sudden we're hunky

26:34

dory going in to another year with a

26:36

loaded West. Speaking of the

26:39

West, they're currently entrenched in a

26:41

down two series against the Boston

26:43

Celtics. Con man's got a question

26:45

for you, Sean. Yeah, Sean's obviously

26:47

the Celtics right now are rolling,

26:49

but with Porzingis kind of being

26:51

questionable in his status up in

26:53

the air, that could change pretty

26:55

quickly. Saw photos of him traveling,

26:57

no brace, no sleeve on his

26:59

calf. What's the status with his injuries?

27:01

And then also Luca, Luca basically looks like

27:03

18 year big Ben before

27:06

every single basketball game with all the

27:08

tape and ice he has on. What's

27:10

his status? Is that just kind of

27:12

standard Luca Doncage football or what's going

27:14

on there? Yeah, Luca is

27:16

going to play through everything. I don't see any scenario

27:18

where Luca Doncage is just sitting games. He's dealing with

27:21

a knee sprays, he's dealing with an ankle soreness, ankle

27:23

sprain injury that he had earlier in the year. And

27:25

now he's dealing with this chest sternum issue. I

27:28

don't think he's going to be missing time, but clearly he's

27:30

playing through a bunch of stuff, but a lot of guys

27:32

are, right? You see, Chris has Porzingis, he came back from

27:35

a calf strain, a non-contact calf strain. He

27:37

comes back after five and a half weeks,

27:40

really, really high level playing game one. And

27:42

then he looked like he re-aggravated it, but

27:44

then he wasn't that concerned after the game.

27:47

Joe Masula wasn't that concerned. He

27:49

said, I'm going to, you know, kind of like

27:51

Pat, maybe should have done. He said, I'll die

27:53

out there on the court. I'll die out on

27:55

the floor. So KP said he'll

27:58

go out there and gain three. in

28:00

Dallas, he'll die on the

28:03

floor. So I'm very confident

28:05

in Porzingis' ability. This

28:07

is something that hasn't been spoken about greatly, but

28:10

he had to go through multiple scrimmages to be

28:12

clear to go play in game one of the

28:14

finals. And one of the scrimmages, he actually stepped

28:16

on someone's foot the wrong way, kind of turned

28:18

his ankle in one of the, he had two

28:20

scrimmages, one on Saturday, one on Monday a week

28:23

ago. And he actually turned his ankle on

28:25

one of them, but clearly it wasn't something

28:27

that impacted his status. He played through it.

28:30

He clearly gutted it out. This is someone that badly, badly

28:32

wants to play. He's been itching to get back on the

28:34

court while he was out. And I

28:37

think he really, really wants

28:39

to win a chip, definitely wants to beat his former team.

28:42

I would have won out there for TSD finals.

28:44

Yeah, exactly. I would have

28:47

been out there for sure. I believe that. I

28:49

believe that. Yeah, I would have died out there

28:52

and I almost did, to be honest, it was

28:54

really hot. Gary North Carolina was phenomenally hot. What's

28:56

the talk around the NBA circles? They're saying that

28:58

the Boston Celtics don't sweep the Mavs. You can

29:00

kind of call this a down year for the

29:03

Celtics, kind of, kind of box kind of. We're

29:05

really going to tell it feels. They're

29:08

saying about the Celtics around NBA circles.

29:12

And NBA championship win is an NBA championship

29:14

win, whether it's in four games, five games,

29:16

six games, going into the series. You think

29:18

this is, goes somewhere in the six game

29:20

range because of how well Dallas played. Dallas

29:22

had to get through so many high level

29:24

teams in the Western Conference. You think that

29:26

they're primed and battle tested, but Boston, I

29:28

mean, it really does feel like their year.

29:30

A lot of the times, maybe Boston had

29:32

to go through a lot of really good

29:34

teams too. No, no, no, no. They

29:37

actually didn't have to play any rounds except for the

29:39

finals. This is the first round for them. Yeah, so

29:41

maybe the reason why the teams didn't

29:44

look good is because

29:46

the Boston Celtics are so

29:48

good. I agree. I

29:50

agree. Well, that doesn't sound like it. Aces look

29:52

good. Aces was great. I look

29:55

at Jalen Brown and I look at Jason Tatum

29:57

and the success that they've had throughout

29:59

their tenure. the other Jalen Brown, four conference finals,

30:01

two NBA finals, Jason Tatum, three conference finals,

30:03

two NBA finals, these guys, all they do

30:05

is win. They just haven't won the championship

30:07

and everyone's known it around this team. This

30:10

year's championship of the bus, there's nothing they

30:12

can do. If they lose in seven, that's

30:14

a bust of the season. That is not a successful

30:17

year. And so I think they're ready, the ballot

30:19

tested, they're unselfish. This starting five is the best

30:21

starting five in the NBA to me. John

30:24

Mazzola said to the boys, the closer you get to the

30:26

goal, the more comfortable you can get. He

30:28

said, we can't do that. We gotta keep going. John

30:30

Mazzola is really calling all the right shots. It's

30:32

kind of like what Spolshar was like whenever he was with

30:34

that Miami Heat team back in the day. Kind

30:37

of underrated, not really talked about as much.

30:39

Now he's one of the top coaches in

30:42

the NBA with five, six different teams changes

30:44

since the Heedles were down there in Miami.

30:46

Feels like John Mazzola is setting up for

30:48

another 20 years of being an NBA coach.

30:51

Will this be his first title? We shall

30:53

see. Let's talk about Spone to

30:55

Miami Heat right here. Last question coming to

30:57

you from D Butts. I'm a fan there

30:59

in Miami. Obviously big Heat fan here. Interesting

31:02

to know, have you heard anything about Jimmy

31:04

Butler's next move? New haircut. Yeah, awesome. Not

31:06

a huge fan of the new. What? Will

31:09

say that's so cool. Also saw him in

31:11

some purple and gold out there in LA

31:13

at his favorite players game. But

31:16

just interesting. Nah, that wasn't

31:18

a Laker game. That was a brick.

31:21

Yeah, yeah. A brick. Oh, sure. But

31:24

any news on Jimmy Butler's next move? Well,

31:26

Jimmy Butler spends a lot of his downtime in the off

31:28

season in San Diego. So that's a quick flight to LA.

31:31

Makes it to that game. And Cameron Brink, star

31:33

for the Los Angeles Sparks, have to give

31:35

her a lot of credit. She's done great

31:37

for herself as well. She's one of the

31:40

best young players in the WNBA. I

31:42

think he really wanted to go and support her. She

31:44

supported him. I think there's a video out there. I

31:47

think she has not been good. Someone asked her. I

31:49

just want to say, I don't talk WNBA anymore.

31:53

Just restricted because the universe told me not to do it.

31:57

I'm high on her upside down. High on the upside. High on the

31:59

upside for sure. You said but you first

32:02

we're not talking if you say something like that we

32:04

got a There's

32:08

a video if you go and watch it They

32:11

literally asked her to pick Jimmy Butler

32:13

against every NBA player and she literally

32:15

picks Jimmy over It

32:19

might be and so he pulled up and

32:22

he supported her my sense of

32:24

Jimmy Butler does not want to be

32:26

anywhere but Miami Okay Since

32:29

he loves it in Miami, but again, he

32:31

is extension eligible this year There are multiple

32:33

teams out there that would give him an

32:35

extension and I think this is something

32:37

that we'll see play out over The next month

32:39

or so that he don't want to trade him.

32:41

He wants an extension. Will they give him an

32:43

extension? That's the question. All right, Choms. We appreciate

32:45

the hell out of you, brother We can't wait

32:47

to keep up with the Lakers coaching search and

32:49

everything else happening around the sham Sharani Oh, keep

32:51

going in there. I know you you woke up

32:53

and we're sick though Whenever that man early thing

32:55

dropped I wore you Be

32:57

sick. I mean, I mean today

32:59

today was was a good day, you know

33:02

today you look outside You

33:04

look outside. It's not sunny but but it's it's

33:06

it's my we're talking about the weather, right? Yeah

33:13

Sometimes sometimes when it's rainy, you know you

33:15

you got a down move when it's rainy,

33:17

right? It's rains outside That's right. And then

33:19

the rainbow comes on the other side, you

33:21

know, no rain no rainbows No sunshine in

33:23

the brightest days come after the darkest on

33:25

and when you get dunked on in the

33:27

morning from Woj and then It ends up not working

33:29

out boy. That Sun is brighter. Oh, yeah, it's ever

33:31

been we appreciate the hell out of you Tell Adam

33:33

Silver. I said, thank you for what he said about

33:35

us. He went to bat for me a little bit

33:37

Which is very kind of him. You're the man. Ladies

33:39

gentlemen, Sean Sharani Us

33:43

asked about Jimmy Butler down there in South Beach

33:45

seems like you are pumped to keep him on

33:47

the heat and in Miami I mean, he's dog.

33:49

Yeah, he's a dog. Yeah, he's a butler. So

33:52

obviously I'm gonna support him He's great to playoffs.

33:54

He's scared us to still Michael Jordan Wow Just

33:58

kind of moved to Anthony Edwards No, that's

34:00

Michael Jordan. That seemingly happens a lot. Yeah,

34:03

how are journalists getting away with that in

34:05

it? It's good. Okay, if we could

34:07

you imagine if our show was just like well, the best part

34:09

is is they never either I

34:11

mean kinda Defense

34:16

like him to match if that was us I mean

34:18

we can do it because you know next year, you

34:20

know when they flame out of the playoffs Everyone's just

34:22

basically says I never said that I mean we were

34:24

we were talking about it But I never said that

34:26

and then next year whoever's playing Well, we can say

34:28

it again if they don't win. We kind of

34:30

just rinse and repeat do it every year. It's kind

34:32

of great Yeah, it's amazing journalism's the best journalism.

34:35

Let's go right to the source Ladies

34:37

and gentlemen a man who's been punching

34:39

the face in the first two games

34:41

of the Stanley Cup finals by the

34:43

Edmonton Oilers But they're currently up to

34:45

zip Representing the Florida

34:47

Panthers the team that is just two

34:50

wins away from Lord Stanley Cup Making

34:52

its way down to sunrise in South

34:54

Florida, which would be fantastic Celebration

34:57

if they can pull it off front of the program

34:59

ladies and gentlemen, Matthew Jim

35:03

I like it. What do we do? Were we

35:05

cycling skating? What do we have going on this

35:07

morning to get the lactic acids? out from last

35:10

night to Chuck Thanks

35:13

for having me on again guys, but yeah today

35:15

it's nice having the Kind

35:17

of like that little extra day So today we

35:19

come into the rink had a little bit of

35:21

a meeting more of like hit the lower body

35:23

a little bit Go on the bike Try

35:27

to feel good and then tomorrow practice get moving

35:29

again and then the game the next day so

35:32

It's good to it's good to just come to the

35:34

rink every day whether it's you know Two days before

35:36

a day before a game day. So it's good to

35:38

see the guys were in a good mood today which

35:40

is always nice and Get

35:42

some work in and then get on with the

35:44

rest of our day long season Obviously when he

35:47

gives this point you two you and the Edmonton

35:49

Oilers have played more than anybody That's just natural

35:51

makes it but you're around each other more than

35:53

anybody to the fact that the vibes are high

35:55

I think is a massive reason on why you

35:57

guys are still in it. Have you taken anything?

36:00

or had any conversations about what happened last year

36:02

versus what's happening this year. How much are you

36:04

referencing last year to stay on the cup final

36:06

versus how you guys can handle it this year?

36:10

Yeah, our coach said

36:12

it best. We deserved

36:14

to talk about last year with the

36:16

success that we had, but

36:19

then there's stuff that you gotta learn from. So we

36:22

definitely referenced last year. I

36:24

wouldn't say a lot, but enough. But

36:26

this year it's a full, it

36:29

seems like a fully different season, fully different

36:31

group of guys. And

36:33

we got one goal in mind. And I think our

36:35

laser focus has been really good this year. Like when

36:37

I say that it's like the one game approach and

36:40

even though we are where we are right now in

36:42

the series, like we're going to up to Edmonton, we're

36:45

going up there with win one game,

36:48

win that game three, focus on that

36:50

and whatever happens happens. The boys will

36:52

have some questions about getting to Edmonton and

36:54

Edmonton's barn as a whole, because we know

36:56

it is lethal and loud up there. But

36:59

you said everybody has one goal in mind. Bob's

37:01

only given up one goal in this series. He

37:03

has been phenomenal. Obviously 32 saves in the first

37:05

one and then only given up one last night,

37:08

which was maybe his first shot that he faced

37:10

somehow. It went through him. Whenever you guys have

37:12

Bob doing what he's doing in net throughout this

37:14

entire playoff run, is there a thought after game

37:16

one, it's like, hey, we got to tighten up

37:18

and play a little bit better. We can't just

37:20

have Bob saving our asses all

37:23

game long, or what is the expectation of Bob throughout

37:25

the rest of this? And how do you guys talk

37:27

to him? Do you stay away from him? No,

37:30

no, we talked to Bob. He's been amazing.

37:33

Yeah, he's a great, just a great human

37:35

being and so fun to be around the

37:37

rink. His work ethic is off the charts,

37:40

unbelievable. And you

37:42

know, he's our backbone. He was so good for us

37:44

in game one and we didn't like our game too

37:46

much in front of him. We picked

37:48

it up in the third period. I really felt that that

37:50

third period kind of bled into game

37:52

two for us. And last night

37:54

I thought we were, you know, strong from

37:58

start to finish, including Bob. You

38:00

know, the one goal that Bob let up was his first

38:02

shot and it was a two on one. Like that's not

38:04

how you draw it up. For

38:06

us, I'm sure he wasn't too happy about that.

38:09

But you know, we just we

38:11

really tightened it up in game two compared to

38:14

game one. And we really liked our game. But

38:17

that's in the past now you move on. You

38:21

try to win your day. That's been the message

38:23

all playoffs long as when your day, whether it's

38:25

a, you know, recovery day, practice day or game

38:27

day. So today's our recovery day

38:29

for us. Go win it and come back

38:31

tomorrow better. Hey, you're winning this appearance right

38:33

now, honey. Let's

38:36

finish this off. Let's have a good appearance on

38:38

the program here. Let's win this thing last night

38:40

in the first game as well. So you get

38:42

punched in the face by VanderKain. McDavid

38:45

got you last time. There's a couple hits,

38:47

you know, that the Edmonton Oilers had on

38:50

your Florida Panthers team. And I

38:52

think we all kind of have a conversation right to boom

38:54

right there right in the mouth from Connor McDavid, which I

38:56

know you love. That is

38:58

something that you enjoy and hockey fans absolutely

39:00

love. But you guys are known as like

39:03

a physical team, fast team, obviously not scared

39:05

to mix it up. There

39:07

was a little bit of a run last night too. Somebody

39:09

kicked a boot. Yeah, right here. Short

39:11

left sides. Boom.

39:15

Focal with the leg kick to the leg. There

39:17

was a five minute penalty enforced on that particular

39:19

one. Then later there's a potential right with a

39:22

stick to the mouth here in the lower right

39:24

corner. Boom, he's

39:26

down. Hold on. They'll show a replay here

39:28

in a matter of like 15 seconds after

39:30

a scrum takes place where there's

39:32

another shot. You know, that's Barkov down, who's

39:35

obviously leader of the squad. Whenever a team is doing

39:37

something like this, how do you guys address it? How

39:39

do you talk about it? And do you expect it

39:41

because of the style and what you guys play? Other

39:44

teams know that they have to show up and kind

39:46

of match the physicality. Well,

39:49

I think, you know, I think we're,

39:51

you know, for us, we

39:54

are a fast team. We're a physical

39:56

team. We protect each other, but it's

39:58

all whistle to whistle. You know, we

40:00

really. don't want to get involved in

40:02

anything after the whistle with these guys

40:04

are really with anybody like we're a

40:06

strong team and we're a very close

40:08

team so but we

40:10

just want to play whistle the whistle as hard as

40:12

you can and sometimes you're gonna have to take a

40:14

punch to the face after the whistle and just turn

40:17

away and I don't know sometimes

40:19

you just got to eat it like it's it's a

40:21

stand-up like we're not

40:23

worried about anything after the whistle like just go

40:25

out there and play as hard as you can

40:27

for 30-45 seconds and try to win

40:29

your shift but yeah we're not worried

40:31

about too much stuff other than

40:34

that right now and you know the rest of

40:36

the stuff obviously some of the plays you know

40:38

not gonna comment on it that's in the past

40:40

and move on and just just worry about you

40:42

know coming up for a good start in game

40:44

three so that's it just let me know though

40:46

like for those of us that have never been

40:48

in a hockey dressing

40:50

room change room whatever European

40:52

term you guys call it when

40:54

that guy kicks your guy like

40:56

that was blatant that he was trying

40:58

to and we know what's it called

41:00

a slew slew for these you know

41:03

mixing up like there is there's a

41:05

chatter about being pissed off about this

41:07

happening to one of our guys it's

41:10

at least mentioned at some point or do you guys literally

41:12

have to just act like it didn't take place and move

41:14

forward because hockey you got to get punched in the mouth

41:16

sometimes and just move on yes

41:18

sometimes you just got to move on I think we are more

41:20

just you know hoping he was okay

41:23

and just checking in on him so we weren't talking

41:25

too much about you know anybody on the other

41:28

team and what they did or anything

41:30

like that we're just more and he

41:32

was okay yeah he was okay

41:34

all right sweet so I

41:37

like to hear that you guys are so professional and

41:39

just sometimes you got to get punched in the face and

41:41

just kind of walk away that's why hockey

41:43

is awesome yeah big Florida Panthers fan Darius J

41:45

Butler has a question for you could chuck yeah

41:47

chuckie home ice man we talked about it you

41:49

know how much does it matter and obviously you

41:51

guys took care of home ice 2-0 at home

41:53

what was the environment like for these first two

41:55

games and we have Mike McDaniel in the drum

41:58

game one and then big ZO game Two

42:00

in the drum. What was the crowd like? What was the

42:02

environment like down there sunrise? It

42:05

was amazing from start to finish every game.

42:07

I mean we had Some

42:10

yeah, I think DJ Khaled was performing

42:12

before yesterday's game out in the park

42:14

and got

42:16

the fans going before the Before

42:19

the game even started but like seriously like when

42:21

I'm when I'm showing up to the rink like

42:23

Three three and a half hours before the game

42:25

like there's people out there Tailgate and getting ready

42:27

to go like cheering you on as you're just

42:29

driving into the parking lot like the support is

42:31

so good Right now and it has been since

42:33

I've been here and You

42:36

know obviously I think with the Stanley Cup final

42:38

it just it ramps up a bit. They've been

42:40

incredible That's all I can really say incredible. Did

42:43

you meet DJ Khaled? No,

42:46

I didn't I was Preparing

42:48

for the game. I guess you

42:50

gotta do a Gary Betman. He had a nice

42:52

conversation up there You know, he's into the golf

42:54

chucky. He's into the golf big into the golf

42:56

Maybe in the offseason you and DJ Khaled hit

42:58

the links would love to hear how DJ

43:01

Khaled is just as a human Oh, yeah,

43:03

you know like when he's not on camera.

43:05

Mm-hmm because the juice that this guy brings

43:08

can't be Sustainable. No way, but

43:10

if it is gotta be That's

43:12

what DJ Khaled is. Yeah, DJ Khaled football. Yeah,

43:15

you're right. That is DJ Khaled football. Connor's got

43:17

a question for you, Chucky Yeah, Matty I'm not

43:19

really sure how it works But after you know

43:21

you guys take a two-game lead in the Stanley

43:23

Cup finals Is there any expectation that going into

43:25

game three the Oilers might you know mix it

43:28

up? Like do you will you guys go back

43:30

and maybe watch film of when they do play

43:32

a different style of hockey or is this one?

43:34

Of those things where they trust what they do

43:36

you guys trust what you do and then it's

43:38

just hey Let's drop the puck and see what

43:41

happens again. I Know

43:45

this just might sound like a really, you know

43:47

simple take but like we're going in there to

43:49

win Win that game like

43:51

just going with in the one game mindset.

43:54

I'm sure they're thinking the same thing But

43:57

you know, we're really not You

43:59

know overthinking or you know thinking they're gonna

44:01

do something different. I mean they're there for

44:03

a reason. We're here for a reason and

44:05

you know we really just have to it's

44:08

it's such a cliche. We have to play

44:10

our game and we have to play from

44:12

the start and you've been a good team

44:14

as games go on and I felt

44:17

in the third period it really showed last game and

44:20

in game one. So I'm hoping we can come out

44:22

to just a good start and just keep that rolling

44:24

for the whole game but you know we're going up

44:26

to Edmonton it's gonna be a great environment to play

44:28

in. On the road it's it's fun playing on the

44:31

road because it just feels like it's you 20 guys

44:33

versus everybody you know so that's

44:35

a really cool cool way to

44:37

approach the game and we're

44:39

a very close team and we're gonna you know

44:42

take that challenge you know head on so we're

44:44

excited for it and just going up to going

44:46

up to Edmonton to win that game three. Bunker

44:48

mentality it's us 20 versus the entire city of

44:51

Edmonton which I've

44:53

seen that barn now a few times it

44:55

is awesome. It's going. Hey the way they

44:58

celebrate and the way they get going is

45:00

fantastic you got people taking clothes off eggs

45:02

keep your eye on the puck. Hey don't

45:04

be losing eyes down. Yeah eyes on the

45:06

ice and on the puck up

45:08

there in Edmonton they got distractors all the

45:10

way up in the top level just that

45:12

you need to know that speaking of Edmonton

45:14

yeah they do got a lot of oil

45:16

cans up. True. They are the Oilers up

45:18

there. Not all real. That is out. Keep

45:20

your eyes on the puck Chuck. Last question

45:22

here about Edmonton. Tony has a question for

45:24

you. Yeah Matthew I think the flight time

45:27

to Edmonton is basically like if you were

45:29

flying to Spain from Florida too so I

45:31

don't know if you have you done that

45:33

flight yet this year and what's the agenda?

45:35

Do you have movies? Are you gonna try

45:37

to sleep the whole time? What are you

45:39

doing a flight that long with the boys?

45:41

Oh Russell Wilson maybe do. Yeah. High knees

45:43

on the plane. Maybe loose. Like you like

45:45

Ross did whenever they went over to London.

45:47

Maybe that type of stuff. Yeah

45:50

I won't be doing high knees on the

45:52

plane. I'll be I'll be playing

45:54

some poker. Our

45:57

team our team loves playing cards so. Well,

46:00

probably I know exactly what's gonna happen. We've been

46:02

saying how we're gonna take a break halfway through

46:04

the plane, cause nobody can play poker for like

46:06

five and a half, six hours, but I

46:09

don't know. We're gonna be playing the whole time, I'm sure. What

46:11

game? What do we play?

46:14

Just Texas Oldham. Oh, nice. I

46:16

don't wanna dive into too much of it to get

46:19

you guys into any shit or whatever, cause you're playing

46:21

for M&Ms, obviously peanut M&Ms and stuff.

46:23

Like how many people in the game? Um,

46:26

it varies, but I think with a

46:28

long plane ride, maybe like six or

46:31

seven, I don't know. It's

46:33

hard cause there's two people that play that aren't at the

46:35

table, so you're kind of like reaching over. It's, I

46:38

don't know. It'll be

46:40

fine. It'll be fine. It's a good way to, I don't

46:43

know. It's a good way to have some fun on the plane,

46:45

make fun of some guys. I don't know.

46:48

It's fun. How's the hockey card community? Are you an

46:50

aggressive player? Do you stand back? What is your style?

46:53

No, I kind of, I'm sitting at the,

46:55

I'm not sitting at the table. So I

46:57

like only play the hands where I've

47:00

got it. I've got a good hand where. That's smart

47:02

to say publicly here. That's smart. I'll

47:05

be bluffing my first hand now. Yeah,

47:07

yeah, absolutely. Got to make it play.

47:09

Those playing card games are interesting because

47:11

I mean, people's cards are pretty, there's

47:14

a lot of exposure to the potential cards, especially

47:16

if you got two people that aren't at the

47:18

table in that entire thing. How is the hockey

47:20

community? For instance, we got a couple of AJ

47:22

Hawks in the football

47:24

card community. Menace. Oh, absolute menace.

47:27

The worst. Dealing, table

47:30

talking, everything you can possibly

47:32

do that is like, you shouldn't do that.

47:34

AJ Hawk does it. He's not the only

47:36

one. How is the hockey

47:38

card community? Pretty respectful. We're not trying

47:40

to. Yeah. Yeah, it's

47:42

very respectful. It's a lot of

47:45

table talk about which pisses off a few

47:47

people, but I don't know. I think it's

47:49

funny. Yeah, it is. Poker's great. Cards are

47:51

the best. Cards have been around for so

47:53

damn long and you just eat up time.

47:55

So either play Uker, either play the game

47:57

Uker. Yeah. Yep. Spades.

48:00

Yep. Bure. I

48:02

have not. How about Tonkin? Let's keep

48:04

Bure out of the NHL plate. That

48:07

is. So that salary

48:09

cap goes up more, which it is.

48:12

Congratulations. Going up numbers. Yeah.

48:15

What do you play Tonk? No,

48:17

we don't. We don't. I think it's fun,

48:19

though. Like it's almost like

48:22

cards on the plane is like, I don't know,

48:24

been going on for ever for

48:26

always since the NHL started. So it's

48:29

like, you know, you got guys wanting to play at

48:31

the table, but can't quite get in and then like

48:33

they're like watching the games and

48:35

I don't know. It's like a tech

48:37

in order for getting in that table.

48:40

So it's fun. Then there's another table

48:43

closer to the front of the plane that plays seven

48:46

up, seven down. I think that's mainly the euros. So

48:48

oh, I don't think I know that name. I don't

48:50

know. Yep. That's a

48:53

good one. Seven cards up, seven cards down.

48:56

Yeah. Classic euros. We're playing how many cards

48:58

we go. I

49:00

think six or seven guys are playing there, right?

49:02

I think that man. Yeah. We're down

49:05

to two cards at the end of that thing. All

49:07

right. Well, good luck in the card game for sure.

49:09

I mean, first things first, let's win the card game.

49:11

We'll win the flight and then we get into Edmonton

49:13

and we try to win Lord Stanley Cup for South

49:16

Florida. We appreciate your time. Good luck the rest of

49:18

the way and continue to just eat those punches in

49:20

the face and just walk it off. All right. Sounds

49:24

good. Thanks. I appreciate it. Hockey's

49:26

the best. Matthew Kuchel. Yeah.

49:29

Yeah. Sometimes you just got

49:31

to get punched in the face and then skate away. You

49:33

like that discipline from the board. I love the discipline. I

49:35

know we're physical. You talked about a whistle to whistle and

49:37

what I really love about it, it's not a bunch of

49:39

bitching. Not from the players, not from the

49:41

coaches. You hear them talking, obviously good vibes, good

49:43

continuity in that locker room. So I love it,

49:46

man. I love everything about this Panther squad. I

49:48

enjoy watching them play because they're a tough bunch.

49:50

You think South Florida, and I've said this before,

49:52

you don't think like, oh, it's a tough team.

49:55

Actually, you think South Florida, you think, oh,

49:57

you got the palm trees. beach

50:00

on the off days, got to have a lot of

50:02

speed, a lot of electricity that get, to remind me

50:04

dolphins you think of, like, hey, we're high flow. It's

50:07

like, no, exactly. Think of the elbow room and

50:09

set, it's a physical, they're a- A

50:12

bit of a throwback team. They are like a

50:14

throwback team. What a perfect- What a speck dosa.

50:16

Exactly, exactly. Cowboy, whoever- Dwayne Robertson. Dwayne Robertson, yeah.

50:18

That's what McDavid kind of looks like. A little

50:20

bit, a little bit. I was watching the other

50:22

night. I'm like, this is the cowboy from Mighty

50:24

Ducks. It was actually good though. Do

50:27

you remember that cowboy when he came out on that?

50:29

Best park handler ever. I

50:32

mean, banks, obviously good leadership. Sure.

50:34

And if he could just rotate that stick a little

50:37

bit there, it would have been a whole different ball

50:39

game. And he finally did. But what's happening right now

50:41

in hockey is beautiful. Ratings up. Yeah. It's

50:43

the greatest ratings I've ever had. Salary cap's about

50:45

to go up to like 80 something million or

50:47

whatever. It's the biggest it's ever been. New team

50:49

in Utah. There's potential expansion coming now. Gary

50:52

Bettman talked about, there's no formal process of

50:54

expansion. It's kind of play it by ear

50:56

almost, you know, yada, yada, yada. It's like

50:59

the NHL and hockey is thriving and we

51:01

can't be thankful enough that it exists. It's

51:03

a great sport to watch, fun sport to

51:05

watch. And it's only going to get better.

51:08

Congrats to this man. Okay. They

51:10

had a lockout. Yeah. How

51:13

many years ago was the lockout? 2004

51:15

is a lockout. Okay. In the middle

51:18

of that, that was whenever we were juniors in

51:20

high school. So we do remember when it took

51:22

place. I was a junior in high school. Nick

51:24

was a senior in high school at that time,

51:26

but it was like hockey's dead. The NHL is

51:28

dead. You can't do this. Fans aren't going to

51:30

come back. This is not the way to treat

51:32

your players. This is not the way to treat

51:34

the fans. This is not the way to treat

51:36

the sport. Gary Bettman was commissioner still at that

51:38

time. They were calling for his demise and the

51:40

league's demise. And then all of a sudden, as

51:43

soon as the lockout ends, they got new like

51:45

salary cap structure. So teams are playing on an

51:47

even playing field. The sport had changed a little

51:49

bit. They changed the rules. So the sport got

51:51

a little bit more electrifying. The teams got better.

51:53

The parody got better. And it's like, wait

51:55

a minute. Here we are in 2024. Any

51:58

NHL is thriving more. than it ever has.

52:00

And if you go 20 years ago, everybody

52:02

thought it was just gonna be completely dead.

52:04

They have to be taking a victory lap

52:06

at NHL offices every single morning,

52:08

but I know they know that work isn't done yet.

52:11

The NHL upping its salary cap to $88 million, gonna

52:14

be able to pay more players, gonna be able to

52:17

have higher salaries, gonna be able to do all that.

52:19

But what that is indicative of is the league making

52:21

more money. So congrats to hockey being in a great

52:23

place, Nick. That's really what it feels like here in

52:25

2024. That was a great trip

52:27

down memory lane there. And one of the big key

52:30

factors in that was when the NHL came back from

52:32

that lockout, they were no longer on ESPN. They were

52:34

on the Outdoor Life Network, which became the versus network.

52:36

And then they did a deal with NBC and

52:38

now they're back on ESPN and they've got to

52:41

deal with TNT. They're in more homes than ever.

52:43

All the eyeballs are back on it. It's a

52:45

great thing. Congratulations to hockey. Keep going hockey. And

52:48

I'm pumped it's on ESPN because we're able to run highlights.

52:50

And that's great. Because the NHL had been very

52:53

tight with their highlights in the past. And

52:56

now they're kind of expanding

52:58

on all horizons. Good for hockey. Good

53:00

for the... Huh? Good commissioners

53:02

right now for like, and all of the major

53:04

NBA. Manfred, I think people would certainly wonder about.

53:06

For the ones that, you know, people watch. Oh!

53:10

Oh, swing! Look

53:12

out! I got it. Betman, like, he

53:14

came on our show was awesome. He was incredibly cool.

53:16

But like, you start looking at what he's been able

53:18

to do with that league. And now obviously it's not

53:21

just him. There's a lot of people that do. And

53:23

he would say that immediately. But yeah,

53:25

the build, the negotiation rights that just

53:27

took place like two years ago, getting

53:30

them back in front of more eyes. And

53:32

it's like all working out. It's like, congrats to the

53:34

NHL folks. Congrats to

53:36

the NHL folks. Incredibly happy for

53:39

them. We got a lot of NFL stuff

53:41

happening around the league as everybody is at

53:43

these mandatory minicamps. Or is everybody there? Uh-oh.

53:46

Not everybody. Not everybody. Wait, are

53:48

there people missing? There's some unexcused

53:50

absences. Really? Big knees. Here's

53:52

Robert Solla, head coach of the New York Jets. Talking

53:55

about theirs. Is the

53:57

sound better than the tiny minicamp? No.

54:00

We've got two inexcused absences. One

54:03

obviously being Hassan. Spoke to

54:05

him over the weekend. I

54:08

appreciate the dialogue. He's

54:10

in a really good place mentally. Working

54:12

his tail off like we already know. But

54:16

he's choosing to set

54:18

out this one inexcused. The second one

54:20

is Aaron. Aaron

54:23

and I spoke before OTA started. He's

54:26

been very good in communication. He's been here

54:29

the entire time. It's an

54:31

excuse, but he had an event

54:33

that was very important to him.

54:37

Which he communicated. Both

54:40

are both inexcused. Yes.

54:43

So are they getting fined? Though

54:45

they're both subject to the CBA fine schedule.

54:47

I got journalists who are supposed to be

54:49

smart. That guy echoed the inexcused. Something can

54:52

be inexcusable, but you are certainly unexcused if

54:54

you are absent from something. And they're saying

54:56

you shouldn't be. Fascinating in

54:58

Aaron's 20th year. He

55:01

did not miss a single OTA. I don't think

55:03

he missed a single OTA. And he got

55:05

the head coach going up. Yeah, it's honestly, he's this

55:07

guy. Should be here. So now he

55:09

opens up to fines. Are they gonna fine Aaron

55:11

Rodgers? The Internet is having

55:13

a field day with the event. What's

55:16

the event? I saw him in some

55:18

TPs, in some places. I saw some

55:20

paint and all that. My

55:22

only take on this entire thing is

55:24

like, now you're asking for

55:27

a whole. Bingo. Exactly. Just lie.

55:29

Just be like, yeah, he's not here. It's

55:31

all good. We. He was here 20 years

55:33

into this thing. He was at every single

55:35

offseason. Now people are saying like, hey, he

55:37

was here yesterday for team pictures and now

55:39

he's not here today. What's going on? Okay,

55:41

something's going on here. It just, come

55:44

on, Bob. Like you knew this was gonna happen.

55:47

Yeah, exactly. This is the

55:49

New York football Jets, gentlemen. This is what they

55:51

do every single year. Something always goes wrong. It

55:53

doesn't even matter if it's, you know, what is

55:55

it? June 4th, June

55:57

11th, or if it's. It's already June 11th.

55:59

Yeah. Pretty crazy, which is great

56:01

news. All right 86 days till NFL football But

56:03

again the fact that the Jets are doing this

56:06

is just this is your standard New York football

56:08

Jet stuff guys. They screw it up every single

56:10

time. Redick not been there is obviously much a

56:12

big issue He hasn't been there all season. Obviously

56:14

he wants more money, you know, they traded for

56:16

him So not getting him happy and in camp

56:19

That's that's kind of some egg on their

56:21

face right now going into training camp. Not

56:23

what you want I just I just don't

56:25

know, you know I

56:28

have not talked to any source Sizz

56:31

close to the situation With

56:33

the quarterback at the Jets. I will have AJ

56:35

Hawk on the other side. What's the life event?

56:37

Huh, you know because obviously saw the hurt. It

56:39

was like that. I don't think so

56:43

Going to space What

56:46

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Scotland is the, I

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playing Germany. One of the biggest guys. Yeah. The

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on Friday as we're going to... She'll

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your nine-year NFL vet, Derek J. Butler. What the

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hell is happening with that room key? With

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Morgan's room key. I saw... Oh, I saw it.

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I didn't get a chance to do a pass

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trader. I think there was an Irishman that maybe

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took that room key, pulled it in, Jack, to

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maybe save Dom from himself. Sure. But

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he's also been the one that has kind of

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intervened in every single Dom-Liv situation. Wow.

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I'm fascinated to see what happens with

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that Judgment Day. Now, I did introduce

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Finn Balor from the

1:01:35

bum ass Judgment Day. Fantastic. And I was

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just in the middle, you know, because Samantha

1:01:40

Irvin was checking on her fiancee, Ricochet. I

1:01:43

got to be clear, I'm not hermshad

1:01:45

short. When he got his head thrown off the

1:01:47

side of that truck, and then his leg hits

1:01:49

Bron Break Run away down, that... That

1:01:53

he off that concrete... That sound good.

1:01:55

Was... And then he

1:01:57

was... Afterwards, I'm like, yep, been there. Got blindsided. I lost

1:01:59

all the air in my entire body thought I was

1:02:01

gonna die I think ricochet was very close last night. He

1:02:04

gets put through a windshield Is

1:02:06

he gonna be okay? That's what I'm saying

1:02:08

What if is he is he gonna be

1:02:10

able to be bad be shocked if he did because that's

1:02:13

Braun breaker football And that's that's what happens when you come

1:02:15

up against the bra. That's one half of the hammer Breaker

1:02:23

he is football guy. Yeah. Yeah, it is written

1:02:25

all you can see what he turns the corner

1:02:27

you saw you did it Turned two corners. Yeah,

1:02:29

I'm like, here's JJ walk DJ. What miles Gary

1:02:31

white for any Robert Mathis And

1:02:34

then he yeah, he beat the hell

1:02:36

out of ricochet and medical has not

1:02:38

been released yet But I'm

1:02:40

wondering if he's gonna be okay for next week. He's

1:02:43

gonna be able to make it back one speed Is

1:02:45

that on Wednesday supposed to be I assumed he's dead.

1:02:48

I mean I assumed that's why he's dead That's

1:02:50

why she Samantha Ervin ran out there. It's like,

1:02:52

okay. This is he's dead. He's done.

1:02:54

I gave us thumbs up on Those

1:02:57

EMTs it was pretty herky-jerky We're

1:03:00

worried about his neck doing and obviously

1:03:02

was very intense seen as the ambulance

1:03:05

was there and EMTs were Clearing ricochet

1:03:07

off of a broken windshield and let's

1:03:09

go and peel this fucking guy's body

1:03:11

off of this Stabilize his neck perfectly

1:03:13

first before they put him up in

1:03:15

there That's

1:03:19

why I worried okay his final Seven

1:03:21

on his way to the hospital boom that just lights

1:03:24

out Yeah, they're ever had to be thinking the same

1:03:26

thing. She was right there. She can't wait a little

1:03:28

bit more smooth Oh, we worried about his spine. What

1:03:30

do I that's why breaker did it where he did

1:03:32

it? He knows Ohio EMTs, you know, you just never

1:03:35

know how they're gonna handle a neck brace He did

1:03:37

I mean they certainly were taking their time to yeah,

1:03:39

you know, we're sitting there with the camera Watching

1:03:41

it all live in real time and we're incredibly

1:03:44

uncomfortable for ricochet and which is the lace for

1:03:46

him and is he gonna be? Okay, and then

1:03:48

your immediate thoughts are goddamn these EMTs are taking

1:03:50

forever What if this guy dies in their care?

1:03:52

It's gonna be a DOA situation if this thing

1:03:55

doesn't get out of the building exactly within the

1:03:57

next I don't know Is

1:03:59

this gonna be? 90 seconds is gonna be four minutes. Guy

1:04:02

turned flexed on the camera at one point, he had a good look.

1:04:05

Thank you to the EMTs at Toledo, Ohio taking

1:04:07

care of Rick Shae, hopefully. We haven't been up

1:04:09

to it. Oh no, that rushing guy's fault, right?

1:04:11

Iliadragonoff is certainly kind of knocking his ass beat

1:04:15

as much as Ricochet has been by the

1:04:17

Bron Breaker. Put on a show. The interesting

1:04:19

story out there. Bron Breaker's a problem. Bron

1:04:21

Breaker's sending people to the hospital. Will we

1:04:23

see Ricochet back next week? We shall see.

1:04:25

Nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. What

1:04:27

were you about to say there? AJ's

1:04:30

favorite guy, explosive. Breaker? No,

1:04:32

not Breaker. He's

1:04:34

right there. Quickly, right? But

1:04:36

Ricochet, seeing him in person, what

1:04:38

he does, he's awesome. I'm glad I saw

1:04:40

a thumbs up, but let me know when the medal comes through.

1:04:43

Yeah, we'll let you know. If he's

1:04:45

back next week, that'll be one of the most

1:04:47

impressive feats in the history of modern humans. Joining

1:04:49

us now is a man who will certainly have

1:04:51

some inside information on a situation that

1:04:54

is gonna brew, and

1:04:56

it is gonna brew loudly. Yeah. What's

1:04:59

going on with the New York Jets? Joining

1:05:01

us from Anattakin, Ohio, college football national champion,

1:05:03

a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner.

1:05:05

Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. Yeah,

1:05:07

well done. AJ, good to see you. I don't

1:05:09

know if you saw Ricochet, he's taken out in

1:05:11

Toledo. Will you please thank the fine Ohioans? That's

1:05:13

okay with him last night. Hopefully we haven't heard

1:05:16

any updates. Yeah, you know,

1:05:18

they don't treat you with kid gloves in

1:05:20

Ohio, I guess, when they're taking you off

1:05:22

after you possibly died, you know, doing some

1:05:25

of your unbelievable acrobatics. But hey, we know

1:05:27

Ricochet will be back. He's

1:05:29

very soon. Okay. I don't think we know

1:05:31

that brother. Good to see the Hulkster on the side

1:05:34

of that. Hold on, hold on,

1:05:36

go back to the beginning of this, Terz. Yeah, it was good

1:05:38

to see the Hulkster. I had to give him a brother in

1:05:40

there. Listen to this. Oh,

1:05:45

man. Did

1:05:48

you hear that smack? I

1:05:50

was so uncomfortable. I was so uncomfortable when

1:05:52

I heard it. And then the, oh, obviously,

1:05:55

that's what Braum Breakers trying to do. It worked

1:05:57

out. It worked out. It does not budge. Right,

1:06:00

it doesn't. So we hope Rick's okay. Hey, Rick's

1:06:03

right there. I think he's doing the... Don't

1:06:05

have any... Yeah, just stay down. Stay down.

1:06:08

Well, right in front of the mouth of the south

1:06:10

there, they climb up some stairs. Oh shit. Somebody parked

1:06:12

really close to the stairs to the truck. Whose car

1:06:14

is that? Why did they park so... Danger a breaker?

1:06:16

It must be somebody... That might have been a DoorDash.

1:06:18

That might have been a DoorDash. I'm not sure. They

1:06:21

parked really close to the stairs. Oh man. Oh, you're not going to get

1:06:23

your door down. You're going to get your door down. You're going to get

1:06:25

your door down. You're going to get your door down. You're going to get

1:06:27

your door down. Oh, you're not going to

1:06:29

get your deposit back in that rental. It's not a... We

1:06:32

don't know. It's not a rental. We don't know if it

1:06:34

was a rental. What? DoorDash. No,

1:06:37

it was last night. DoorDash. Yeah, it was... All right,

1:06:39

let's get back to the... Rick Shea would hope he's

1:06:41

okay. And I hope he's back next week. And

1:06:44

the week after that. What? And

1:06:46

the week after that. What? And

1:06:49

the week after that. What? He'd take a

1:06:51

week off. Yeah. But then a week

1:06:53

after that. Need him back. But I'm a

1:06:55

little bit worried. I don't know if he's going to with

1:06:57

what Braun Brekker did. Hopefully he's done it. If he takes

1:06:59

that week off. All right, AJ, let's talk a little bit

1:07:01

about football. Run

1:07:03

the clip from Coach Salah Evan Fox.

1:07:07

Is Zomrattic an attending minicamp?

1:07:09

No, so we've got two inexcusable

1:07:12

absences. Fox, so inexcusable is obviously

1:07:14

not a word. Okay, we know

1:07:16

that. Unexcused is the

1:07:18

word. We're all confused. Inexcusable is

1:07:20

certainly something. And I don't

1:07:23

want to say it is inexcusable, especially

1:07:25

when you know this word is the most important word

1:07:27

to get it wrong. But nonetheless, he's

1:07:29

talking unexcused for the rest of this time,

1:07:31

AJ. Obviously being

1:07:34

Hassan spoke to him over the weekend. Appreciate

1:07:37

the dialogue. He's in

1:07:39

a really good place mentally working his

1:07:41

tail off like we already know. But

1:07:45

he's choosing to. He's working hard. We

1:07:48

know that. We appreciate it. The second one

1:07:50

is Aaron. Aaron

1:07:52

and I spoke before OTA started. He's

1:07:56

been very good in communication. He's

1:07:58

been here the entire time. and

1:08:00

excused but he had an

1:08:02

event that was very important

1:08:04

to him which

1:08:07

he communicated. Both

1:08:11

are both in excused. Yes. So

1:08:13

are they getting fined? They were both

1:08:15

subjected to the CBA fine schedule. Okay.

1:08:18

All right AJ. Listen. We

1:08:20

know coach. Coach. You tell

1:08:22

him. Come on AJ. Is he

1:08:24

in a TP somewhere right now? Is

1:08:27

he? That is something that was very

1:08:29

important to him. Coach

1:08:31

Sallah heard and said, now yeah. You're

1:08:33

fine for that. Yeah. I don't know. Not important

1:08:35

to me. How about him saying Hassan Redick. We

1:08:37

know he's working his ass off. The guy's going

1:08:39

to be an incredible show. He's not been there,

1:08:41

right? No. No. He's

1:08:44

not been there. Looking for a new deal. We know

1:08:46

he's doing great. Aaron, he communicated with me before OTAs

1:08:48

which he was at all of them. Kind

1:08:52

of sounded like a bit of mumbo jumbo but. This

1:08:56

is going to be a thing. We all know this is

1:08:58

going to be a thing. It's already started as a thing.

1:09:01

Why would this be the way you go about

1:09:03

doing this? And is coach Sallah obviously in

1:09:05

a position where he could have what? Yeah. Aaron's

1:09:08

been here every time. He had something to do. We said

1:09:10

it was cool. We're going to get some of the young

1:09:12

guys work and move on. And then if he does that,

1:09:14

who's pissed at him? The players, the other coaches. I

1:09:17

don't understand why that was the option. What do

1:09:19

you think coach Sallah is doing here? And where

1:09:21

the hell is your friend Aaron Rodgers at AJ

1:09:23

Hawk? First off, I have

1:09:25

no idea where he came. The opportunities are endless. He

1:09:27

could be anywhere on the planet right now. We don't

1:09:29

know what that could be. He's in

1:09:31

the Arctic right now potentially with Jimmy Graham. Yeah,

1:09:33

you never know. Like, why don't you Google like,

1:09:35

hey, cool things happening over the next three days.

1:09:38

He might be there. I don't know what that

1:09:40

might be. I have no clue where he is

1:09:42

either. But they've known this for a long time.

1:09:44

If you talked before OTAs, we're talking a couple

1:09:47

months ago, right? Yeah, and he was at everyone,

1:09:49

right? Those Kentucky Derby even comes back, you know.

1:09:52

In years past for the Green Bay Packers, they

1:09:54

knocked on OTAs. Puffed out

1:09:56

with his person in California. Did that. showed

1:09:59

up in mandatory minicamp, then he was out

1:10:01

of there. That was actually a big topic

1:10:03

of contention almost with some of the new

1:10:06

Packers regime. New GM, new coach, fans

1:10:08

even, like, hey, well, everybody else is here.

1:10:10

Why aren't you here? That type of shit.

1:10:12

So then he gets to the Jets last

1:10:14

year, goes to everything. How you doing? Keep

1:10:17

it moving. This is a brand

1:10:19

new, wants to be assimilated with the

1:10:21

culture, with the team and do that.

1:10:23

This year, same with all the voluntary

1:10:25

shit, you know, fresh off of Achilles,

1:10:27

year 20 in his NFL

1:10:29

career, already knows the offense, right? Knows the

1:10:31

offense better than every human, all

1:10:34

in the field. That's why they kept Nathaniel Hackett

1:10:36

as the offense court, every single day there for

1:10:38

the voluntary thing. And then while we got two

1:10:40

days left, the coach is why,

1:10:43

just knowing it was a unit, why would you do

1:10:45

that? And this is not me saying that you should

1:10:47

count out anybody, but either you

1:10:49

can afford to be the way NFL buildings operate

1:10:51

is the quarterback. There's a little

1:10:54

different situation. Ah, man, I just think

1:10:56

this is an interesting angle for

1:10:59

a coach to let it go into. And I'm sure it'll be fine.

1:11:01

I'm sure everything will be okay, but this

1:11:03

is cause is unneeded shit. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, of

1:11:05

course it causes unneeded, but I guess he's had some

1:11:07

time. So I was at some time to think about

1:11:09

this, how he may handle it. You know, when you

1:11:11

don't, he did have to speak to the media if

1:11:14

he knew Aaron was not going to be there. So

1:11:16

yeah, he could have worded it a little better, no

1:11:18

question about it and said, yeah, we know like, we

1:11:21

get it, great communication, we're good to

1:11:23

go. Like how he kind of contrasted

1:11:25

how Reddick and Aaron's absence was, that's

1:11:27

what made it kind of weird. Aaron,

1:11:29

yeah, he had an important event. He thought,

1:11:32

we, we. Did

1:11:35

Aaron tell him what the event is? Do you think he knows? Like, did

1:11:37

he have to say, did solid became, what are you gonna tell me what,

1:11:39

what is this thing you want to do? And what

1:11:41

if he said it and obviously he killed,

1:11:43

I don't even know what. Yeah. I'm gonna

1:11:45

read. What does that even mean? Periodic table

1:11:47

with Terrence Howard right now. He cannot tell

1:11:49

us, or going to visit the flower of

1:11:51

life. That's

1:11:53

what we're going. That's what we're going. And coach solid

1:11:56

goes, far lower, there's no flower. We got roses. We

1:11:58

got what? Period. I'm playing for a period on a

1:12:00

table. Yeah, it's right there on a wall every time

1:12:02

it's glass. What are you talking about? And then he

1:12:04

shows up with Aaron's Howard video and Salah's brain actually

1:12:07

explodes. And that was maybe what

1:12:09

Salah was referencing when he saw his

1:12:11

entire demeanor change when he was talking

1:12:13

about Aaron. And obviously we know Aaron

1:12:15

very well. We are friends with Aaron

1:12:17

in this entire thing. So us talking about

1:12:19

it is gonna come from a place

1:12:21

of like, why would you even, you

1:12:24

know? But as an ex-Packers fan, I

1:12:26

couldn't even fathom watching the Jets have to

1:12:29

deal with this. Because literally everything Aaron does

1:12:31

is a lightning rod of conversation and polarization.

1:12:34

And right now the internet is gonna cook

1:12:36

for the next two months, because it's the

1:12:38

end of OTA. So now this

1:12:40

is gonna cook for the next two months. And

1:12:42

coach Salah calling it upon himself almost. We all

1:12:44

know how Aaron Rodgers football goes. Yeah, I mean,

1:12:46

it's just like, it's unbelievable. And

1:12:48

listen, Salah's not like, this guy's kind of

1:12:51

been putting his foot in his mouth since

1:12:53

he's been the head coach of the Jets. So it's

1:12:55

not like this is something new. Kind of happened all

1:12:57

last year. Anytime he'd talk about Zach Wilson, he was

1:13:00

basically like, yeah, you know, he sucks. So

1:13:02

that's just kind of the way it is. He's not gonna play. But

1:13:05

they talked about the entire off season. It

1:13:07

was basically like, hey, listen, we throw last

1:13:09

season out the window because we didn't have Rodgers. Like

1:13:12

everything rides on Aaron Rodgers. So yeah, you're talking about

1:13:14

like, not Cowtown to a guy. And like, for

1:13:16

sure. But like when your

1:13:19

job and the success of

1:13:21

your team, and basically like your

1:13:23

life in the NFL at this point, if

1:13:25

you're Robert Salah, it depends on that guy.

1:13:27

So maybe don't piss him off, you know,

1:13:30

June 11th, when it's something that

1:13:32

you already talked about and we're already

1:13:34

aware of like, yeah, but we're just

1:13:36

Aaron Rodgers, you know, Paul

1:13:39

Rodgers. Sure. There was a, and sure, I'm sure there's

1:13:41

a lot of people out there like, Aaron Rodgers needs

1:13:43

to be a man to our minicam. And I get

1:13:45

it. There's certainly an angle to say that. But

1:13:47

if you're at every single voluntary, in year 20, if

1:13:51

you're in every single voluntary, there

1:13:53

has been a lot of things that have happened

1:13:55

in off season where coaches have gone like, yeah,

1:13:57

we're actually gonna cancel the last two pranks. Don't

1:13:59

need them. because everybody who's been here the

1:14:01

entire time, guys have missed mandatory minicamp

1:14:03

because of all the things that have

1:14:05

happened in the past. Not rookies, second

1:14:07

year guys, role player guys. No, no,

1:14:09

no. All hot, you know,

1:14:12

four time MVP. Mm-hmm. Yeah,

1:14:14

this six months removed from him trying to come

1:14:16

back from an Achilles fashion than anybody for an

1:14:19

entire season to play for that team,

1:14:21

to save their season. Ah, it's awesome. Football's

1:14:23

the best. The Jets, man. The Jets are

1:14:25

the best. The Jets are the best. I

1:14:27

love them. All right, joining us now is

1:14:29

a man who covers the football and has

1:14:31

been doing it for so damn long in

1:14:33

the city of Pittsburgh that people would

1:14:36

like to build a statue of him. In that

1:14:38

statue, he would be wearing cargo shorts because he

1:14:40

actually put subs, which some people

1:14:42

call hoagies who are wrong, subs in

1:14:44

his pocket for nature's microwave, which he

1:14:46

calls his right leg, to heat that

1:14:48

thing up and kind of slow roast

1:14:51

that thing for six to seven hours

1:14:53

before he houses it with some great

1:14:55

mayonnaise at the house later that evening.

1:14:57

Ladies and gentlemen, from the Athletic Markable.

1:14:59

Yay! Yay! Yay!

1:15:02

Wow, interesting. Hey, where

1:15:04

you at? You're down at UPMC right now?

1:15:06

You look very professional. The hair's done. The

1:15:08

shirt's button- Hey,

1:15:10

it's mandatory minicamp, so I

1:15:12

gotta take

1:15:14

a shower and stuff, so I'll just flick it

1:15:16

back a little bit, take the hat off, so

1:15:19

I gotta look presentable. Is Aaron Rodgers

1:15:21

at the Pittsburghs? Maybe he is. He's at

1:15:23

another team. Oh! That's mandatory.

1:15:25

That's why it's an excuse. You know, maybe

1:15:27

that is. In Coach Sala's

1:15:30

words. Mark Aboli, I

1:15:32

have a question for you. Mike

1:15:37

Tomlin, signs at extension through 2027. This

1:15:40

is good news. Congratulations, Mike Tomlin. Three

1:15:42

coaches, 55 years. That's Pittsburgh's

1:15:44

dealer way. We're gonna have consistency at

1:15:46

the top. We're gonna have one vision,

1:15:48

one voice. Ex-players are gonna feel welcomed back

1:15:51

in the building because the same person

1:15:53

that coached them is coaching this new

1:15:55

team. It is a college environment. It is

1:15:57

a great atmosphere. It is a family.

1:15:59

The Pittsburghs. because of

1:16:02

the consistency at the top. Then,

1:16:05

as soon as this gets announced, we celebrate

1:16:07

a work center for Mike Tomlin, especially with

1:16:09

a transition into a brand new era of

1:16:11

Steelers football with Russell Wilson leading the way

1:16:13

and welcoming Zach Brown and others to the

1:16:16

city of Pittsburgh as the

1:16:18

Pittsburgh welcoming committee. Then I saw a

1:16:20

bunch of you interesting, hey, this ain't

1:16:22

deserved, has it won a playoff game?

1:16:24

What is your thoughts on it all?

1:16:26

And have you seen more positive or

1:16:29

more negative about Tomlin being the coach until

1:16:31

2027 at least? Oh,

1:16:33

absolutely more negative. Oh, come on. Oh,

1:16:36

damn it. People

1:16:38

in Pittsburgh are not very happy. For

1:16:40

the most part, I wouldn't say all

1:16:42

of them, but they do not appreciate

1:16:45

the no playoff wins in

1:16:47

six years, or since 2016,

1:16:50

and we are now rewarding me. Doing

1:16:54

great. They people have come up to me and

1:16:56

told me over the past day of

1:16:59

I can't believe they extended him, even though

1:17:01

it was a done deal for a while

1:17:03

now, because they expect more

1:17:06

and people

1:17:09

aren't happy. It's weird. It's like two

1:17:11

factions too. It's the people

1:17:13

inside the city. The hardcore Steelers fans

1:17:15

don't like it, but the

1:17:18

people on the outside love

1:17:20

it. I mean, they can't stand the

1:17:23

statement, no losing

1:17:26

seasons in his career. They think

1:17:28

that's just mediocrity as well. Myself

1:17:30

is, I mean, stability is not

1:17:32

a bad thing. I don't

1:17:34

think stability is a bad thing at all, especially

1:17:36

with this roster getting overturned and the whole new

1:17:38

front office and the whole new general

1:17:41

manager that you got a face of a

1:17:43

franchise that's going to be here at

1:17:46

least what now? 2021, 22 years. Probably

1:17:49

will pass Chuck Knoll for the longest coach

1:17:52

in the Steelers history. So I don't see

1:17:54

anything negative about it, but Pittsburgh

1:17:57

fans do. Well, it is

1:17:59

interesting. 17 consecutive non-losing seasons.

1:18:01

We got a chance to see how pissed

1:18:03

off he answers get about that. Because on

1:18:05

ESPN, you know, last year as the season

1:18:07

was going, how it was going and Canada

1:18:09

gets fired and then all the chitter chatter

1:18:11

about maybe Mike Tomlin is gonna get traded

1:18:13

to another team. Maybe Tomlin is gonna go

1:18:15

do TV. Maybe Tomlin's done in

1:18:17

Pittsburgh. You heard everybody that is a fan

1:18:19

of the Pittsburgh Steelers but not in Pittsburgh

1:18:22

go. Mike Tomlin is at 17 consecutive

1:18:24

non-losing. See, this guy wins football

1:18:27

games. You're gonna let a coach

1:18:29

that wins games out of your

1:18:31

building, especially ones in the face. And the

1:18:33

Inzers came out like, yeah, yeah, we will.

1:18:35

Nine wins, we're about sick of it.

1:18:38

We are done with nine wins and

1:18:40

being the third best team, if not

1:18:42

the fourth best team in the AFC

1:18:44

North every single year. That's not Pittsburgh

1:18:46

Steelers football. But now, Kaboli

1:18:49

with Justin Fields and Russell Wilson in

1:18:51

that quarterback room. Artie Smith calling the

1:18:53

plays. Is there an optimism that this

1:18:55

team will get back to playoff wins

1:18:57

and will get back to relevancy, not

1:18:59

just above 500 seasons? There's

1:19:02

a lot of skepticism still. They need to see

1:19:04

what the quarterback position does

1:19:06

in tell here. I mean, to

1:19:10

me, it's Russell Wilson's... I

1:19:12

mean, I think it's a no doubt Russell Wilson will

1:19:14

play the season start... go

1:19:17

forward being that guy. But

1:19:19

I think there's a little bit of confusion

1:19:22

of how well they're going to

1:19:24

play. So they're holding off reservations

1:19:27

here. They're really, really concerned about

1:19:29

the number two wide receiver position

1:19:31

right now, which doesn't

1:19:33

seem like it's going

1:19:35

anywhere positive. But

1:19:38

hey, look at that defense. That defense is loaded.

1:19:41

They've switched a lot of things around

1:19:44

offensively, coaching staff wise,

1:19:46

a lot of stability. It's

1:19:48

all going to determine what Russell Wilson does.

1:19:51

If he's able to play like

1:19:53

he did last year, this

1:19:56

is definitely a playoff team, a

1:19:58

playoff potential winning team. I

1:20:02

don't know what type of Russell Wilson we're going

1:20:04

to get right now. I mean, Hey, say welcome.

1:20:06

Zach Brown to the city. I saw him. I

1:20:08

think he made a three. He had a home

1:20:11

run a cool shirt. I sweep that. He went.

1:20:14

He went to Kenny would with

1:20:16

the team and brought his wife and he

1:20:19

also was hanging out with the boys and

1:20:21

girls club yesterday. Okay, so

1:20:23

he's doing great. Look at this. They're

1:20:25

about the most Pittsburgh Steeler looking guy I've ever

1:20:27

seen in my life. Coley. Yes.

1:20:30

I mean, I'm fine with it. I think if

1:20:33

he puts up to 26 touchdowns like he

1:20:35

did last year. I think this

1:20:37

team's easily 10 11 win team

1:20:39

and potentially can battle for

1:20:41

the AFC Division. AFC

1:20:43

North Division title. That's way above 500 people

1:20:46

would be celebrating that guy at AJ Hawk.

1:20:49

Kabowie. What do you expect this offense to look like?

1:20:51

Arthur Smith is there obviously. Do you expect them to

1:20:53

put a bunch of points up? They're going to use

1:20:55

your play action like Russ is so good at and

1:20:57

with the run game that they made. Have like what

1:20:59

are you looking for when you this offense takes the

1:21:01

field in regular season? Yeah, what are practices look like?

1:21:03

Yeah, number one is going to be running.

1:21:06

I mean, they're going to run the ball

1:21:08

with Jalen Warren and nausea hairs and that

1:21:10

offensive line that is pretty much very young

1:21:12

but very talented. They're going to

1:21:14

get Russell Wilson. Obviously the play the action pass

1:21:16

which he's very good at which is something they

1:21:19

haven't been good at over

1:21:21

the past couple of years. They're going to

1:21:23

move the pocket a little bit with Russell

1:21:25

and try to keep the chains moving. And

1:21:28

then turn it over to the defense.

1:21:30

Don't make any dumb mistakes. Don't turn

1:21:32

the ball over and you got guys

1:21:34

like, you know, Cam Hayworth, TJ Watt,

1:21:36

Alex Heis, Mike Fitzpatrick, Glendon

1:21:39

Roberts, Patrick Quain, Joey Porter.

1:21:41

Why? Why? Because they're going

1:21:44

to go. They're

1:21:46

not going to try to put up a

1:21:48

ton of points but enough points to

1:21:52

let the defense do what they do.

1:21:54

And they got a ton of talent

1:21:56

on that defense. We saw TJ Watt

1:21:58

down in that carry. North Carolina. He's

1:22:01

a monster. He is a absolute monster. He'll

1:22:03

lead the league in sacks again. And everybody

1:22:05

will say it's not a stats position and

1:22:07

all that shit will take place. But if

1:22:10

they're winning 11 games in TJ Watts leading

1:22:12

league in sass, all of a sudden the

1:22:14

conversation is a lot different than just, oh,

1:22:16

it's a stat. It's a stat. It's a

1:22:18

stat. Whenever you're winning, winning, that's whenever the

1:22:20

awards start coming back to town. Hopefully TJ

1:22:22

gets back in that conversation. If Russell Wilson

1:22:24

can figure it out, Tone's got a question

1:22:26

for you. Sharp dress, Kaboli. Yeah, Kaboli. Sharp

1:22:28

dress, Kaboli. Sorry, my apologies. What

1:22:31

I want to know about. Holy moly.

1:22:34

It's a sharp dress,

1:22:36

Kaboli. Holy moly. It's

1:22:38

a sharp dress, Kaboli.

1:22:42

The answers were super pumped after the draft. I remember

1:22:44

that because we drafted all those dogs on the O

1:22:46

line, but it feels like the Steelers are going to

1:22:49

do the same thing that they always do. And they're

1:22:51

not going to play those guys early because it's not

1:22:53

the stealer way. Is that what we're going to, is

1:22:55

that we're going to have to wait till week eight

1:22:57

to see everyone that we drafted because that's the stealer

1:23:00

way. I

1:23:02

don't know. I don't think so. I think first

1:23:04

of all, you're going to put Zach Frazier at

1:23:07

center. Hell yeah. I don't think that's much of

1:23:09

a debatable thing right

1:23:11

now because he obviously the

1:23:13

second round Nate Herbig

1:23:16

is a guy that really hasn't done play

1:23:19

that position much. I guess

1:23:21

the question is, what do you do either Dan

1:23:23

Moore, Troy Fotano, their number one

1:23:25

pick myself, I would go with all

1:23:27

the young guys of the

1:23:29

young two tackles, a young center and

1:23:32

the two veteran guards with say Amalu

1:23:34

and James Daniel and roll with those

1:23:36

guys. But you know, Roger Moore is

1:23:38

a, Roger. They

1:23:40

had more juniors. A guy that's played for

1:23:43

started two odd games. He's

1:23:46

taken a lot of heat because his

1:23:48

PFF grades are terrible, but

1:23:50

I think he's still more than

1:23:52

eligible. So I don't

1:23:54

know yet because it's OTAs and

1:23:57

training camp and they don't put the pads

1:23:59

on yet. So. All they do is basically

1:24:01

go through drills right now. So

1:24:03

it's hard to make that determination right now,

1:24:05

but how they line up right now, it

1:24:07

is Dan Moore, but I

1:24:09

could see that changing come a week or

1:24:11

two into training camp. That baby Kiboli with

1:24:13

the foresight, fortune telling ability to be able

1:24:15

to say, this is what the Steelers might

1:24:17

do or not do. Zack Frazier is a

1:24:19

dog. Guy in a broken leg, his last

1:24:21

game at West Virginia, walked off the field

1:24:23

with it. Yeah, absolute beast down there in

1:24:26

West Virginia. Everybody loves him. That'll be good

1:24:28

for the Steelers. What other young bucks will

1:24:30

make plays for the Steelers as we go

1:24:32

forward? We shall see. Let's not talk about

1:24:34

the youngs anymore. Let's talk about the old

1:24:36

ass dudes. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Kiboli, if

1:24:38

the number two wide receiver position is a worry

1:24:40

for the Steelers, in your words, is there a

1:24:42

kind of way that they go out and maybe

1:24:44

get like a Michael Thomas or a Hunter Renfro

1:24:46

or one of those guys out there? Are they

1:24:48

not looking out of house and they're just hoping

1:24:50

that the guys that they have will develop into

1:24:52

the players that they want them to be? They're

1:24:55

just waiting to see and right now. They

1:24:58

got about six guys who are very similar

1:25:00

in what they do. Let's

1:25:02

see how they work out in training

1:25:05

camp. Maybe one emerges. I

1:25:07

wouldn't really anticipate that right now.

1:25:10

Then if it becomes a sort of an issue,

1:25:12

you see if anybody hits the trade

1:25:15

markets come late August

1:25:18

or if the IUQ thing

1:25:20

happens, which it doesn't look

1:25:23

like it would happen for the Steelers just

1:25:26

for the fact that's a ton of money they'd

1:25:28

have to give him. What's he want? Probably 32,

1:25:30

$33 million. I

1:25:32

don't know if they're willing to do that. The longer

1:25:34

this goes on, it almost looks like they're

1:25:36

just going status quo

1:25:39

right now and maybe use

1:25:41

Cordell Patterson a little bit more.

1:25:44

Definitely use Pratt Fryermuth a little

1:25:46

bit more and grab those other

1:25:48

four or five guys like the

1:25:51

Quizwalkins, the Roman Wilsons, the

1:25:53

Van Jeffersons and hope that they pan

1:25:56

out to Calvin Austin. All

1:26:00

right You

1:26:02

just don't have the number two and when you don't have

1:26:04

the number two, what do you do? knows

1:26:09

You roll to bars All

1:26:12

of a sudden George pickings becomes

1:26:15

irrelevant then you become becomes an

1:26:17

issue Number

1:26:19

two, what do you do?

1:26:21

How about juju? Holy? You

1:26:24

can take them off our hands. We'll give them to

1:26:27

you for a can of coke and some hines ketchup

1:26:29

juju Whoa, listen, we like

1:26:31

our head. Let's catch it. Yeah,

1:26:34

okay. That's a lot. Maybe Jack Aboli I agree.

1:26:36

He was there getting a little bit greedy up

1:26:38

there But juju smith Schuster is the number two

1:26:40

for the Pittsburgh Steelers worked out great. Yeah. Yeah,

1:26:42

bring it back. Absolutely bring home Yeah, that's not

1:26:45

happening. I mean they drafted a wide receiver Roman

1:26:47

Wilson. We all know what happens when they draft

1:26:49

a wide receiver He's gonna be incredible. So I

1:26:51

don't know Fair. Yeah,

1:26:54

you know, I mean jiu-jitsu would

1:26:56

be interesting. I don't know what it mark in the

1:26:58

card You

1:27:00

move he's a super champion. Oh,

1:27:02

yeah, I'm gonna play fullback who

1:27:05

juju Well, yeah, he's your number two wide

1:27:07

receiver. He's looking spry in New England right

1:27:09

now, Tony you want him Yeah, Drake Bay's

1:27:11

thrown a ball over the yard though Bingo

1:27:13

I mean, they're making plays all over the

1:27:16

place You'll need a number two juju smith

1:27:18

Schuster going back to Pittsburgh with Russell Wilson

1:27:20

is good Imagine it was Russell Wilson and

1:27:22

juju smith Schuster walking out to welcome Zach

1:27:24

Brown to Pittsburgh. Yes I mean, that's what

1:27:26

we need. That's what the insers need comes

1:27:29

like the third most tenured guy on the

1:27:31

Steelers team You do bees are buzzing. Oh

1:27:33

my god. Remember? Let's go take a trip

1:27:35

back to time. This is fun Do

1:27:38

your shit. Juju do your shit.

1:27:40

Yeah Yeah,

1:27:47

peace out it was awesome It

1:27:50

was sick. I appreciated the fact that

1:27:53

every ends are hated him Yeah, they were so

1:27:55

mad at this guy. Hey just catch the fucking

1:27:57

ball. How about that? Okay Let's not because there

1:27:59

was a fumble situation that was starting to go

1:28:02

on There was a lot there's some drops are

1:28:04

going on He had real prompt like he was

1:28:06

gonna be a Pittsburgh hero because he played physical

1:28:08

That block he hit some people and then all

1:28:10

of a sudden everything off the field became more

1:28:13

important to yinzer's minds Then everything on the field

1:28:15

for juju then he goes the ones a Super

1:28:17

Bowl and then New England doesn't work out It's

1:28:19

like juju back in Pittsburgh would be hilarious. Just

1:28:21

like you guys were booing juju out of town

1:28:23

Yeah, you know who else you were booing out

1:28:26

of town? Rudolph

1:28:30

Back to save Christmas for you guys. Yeah,

1:28:32

so maybe juju does the same damn thing

1:28:34

tone Maybe you need to turn that frown

1:28:36

upside down at this boss Both of those

1:28:38

guys were booed for good reason and deservedly

1:28:40

and we'll see how they will see how

1:28:43

they did further It lets is Mason gonna

1:28:45

listen Mason's gone. No, you're never gonna hear that

1:28:47

guy's name again. Why? It's

1:28:50

marks. It was marks favorite player on the roster

1:28:52

for the last two years. Yeah you Got

1:28:57

it. Oh full car. No Hey,

1:28:59

what's up mark? Good to see you last

1:29:01

question here mark as you got a lot

1:29:03

of things to do from D But yeah,

1:29:05

hey mark. I know you had a injury

1:29:08

late season like a couple years ago and

1:29:10

it's been a long off season I don't

1:29:12

know. Hey stay with me

1:29:14

stay with me kaboly. You know a long

1:29:16

long Gotta

1:29:27

Good bully. Can you hear

1:29:29

anything? Oh Hey

1:29:56

kaboly We

1:29:58

didn't get you there when you say it What are

1:30:00

you there? Well, answer the question. What

1:30:07

is this guy doing? Come

1:30:12

on. Breaking up. Yeah, I can hear

1:30:14

you, but I'm OK. You can hear

1:30:16

us? Looking like him. Oh,

1:30:20

I'm going faster now. All right,

1:30:22

face fell apart and pulled in the face, man.

1:30:25

Killed it. Killed it.

1:30:27

He had a nice little spot on ESPN there

1:30:30

for what, 30 seconds? Oh,

1:30:32

for at least. Yeah, that was awesome. I was worried about

1:30:34

what he was going to do. You

1:30:36

were worried about his health and everything. I was going

1:30:38

to check in to see what his summer's plans were.

1:30:40

He's good. He's going to get mental. Looks

1:30:42

great. Whatnot. That's

1:30:45

Pittsburgh. Good hair. Beautiful

1:30:47

day there. He did have

1:30:49

good hair there. The jelly was handy. Him

1:30:51

and Miola could be brothers. I

1:30:55

don't know if you should say that. Absolutely. I

1:30:57

don't know if the coast deserved that. Nothing.

1:30:59

Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I know. Disrespectful. I

1:31:02

need to see what you're saying. Not disrespectful.

1:31:04

Not disrespectful. What the? OK. Can

1:31:06

we get a side by side of two photos in place? Wow. I

1:31:08

mean, we're going to try to. Don't think Miola played in the Olympics,

1:31:11

correct? Yeah, and Mark's an Olympic

1:31:13

shoplifter. I don't think that's what he's

1:31:15

wearing. He's wearing a shirt. He's wearing

1:31:17

a shirt. Walked to the ring with

1:31:19

Lex Luger as well. That's right. Carrying

1:31:21

the American flag. Yeah, and then his

1:31:23

American flag, he handed off somebody so

1:31:25

he'd get a steel chair. Nice. Because

1:31:27

him and Lex Luger were protecting this

1:31:29

house over there in New Jersey. I

1:31:32

mean, Tony Miola started telling some stories

1:31:34

from back in the day. He was awesome.

1:31:36

He was incredible. I think we're trying to cold call him right

1:31:38

now to see how much he does look like. Mark

1:31:40

Aboli. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And we will let

1:31:42

him know that you said that. I said they

1:31:44

could be brothers. I didn't say they look identical

1:31:46

to each other. And if we were to pull

1:31:48

up two photos, you could see it too. OK,

1:31:50

so let's stay with the NFL conversation. Sounds like

1:31:52

Pittsburgh's in the same exact spot it's always been

1:31:54

in. There's some pessimism. There's a

1:31:56

little bit of a storyline. And if Russell

1:31:58

Wilson and JuJu Smith issues there are

1:32:01

the faces of the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a good thing.

1:32:03

That's what we just found out from Mark Aboli and

1:32:05

all Yinsers through that conversation. I just want to clarify,

1:32:07

someone said that sometimes they're the fourth best team in

1:32:09

the division. They haven't finished in the last division since

1:32:11

1988. Yeah, but I will tell you,

1:32:13

I'm the one that said fourth in you eyeball it sometimes

1:32:15

you go, this team. This team, thanks.

1:32:18

This team would. Remember the Browns still exist,

1:32:20

okay? But the Browns are

1:32:22

balling right now. Vrabel's playing linebacker. Remember,

1:32:25

we started that video from. Just like the Jets,

1:32:27

classic off season champs. And

1:32:29

John Kelly Jr. just made a big time play on

1:32:31

that old ass lady. Oh, unbelievable play.

1:32:33

It's probably a good play made by John Kelly

1:32:35

Jr. Yeah, David and Joe, he's doing a charity

1:32:37

softball game. Give him back to the town. The

1:32:42

Smith's grand ball, by the way, just found that

1:32:44

out. She's part of it. And she

1:32:46

got good personality. She's got a RBI though, right? That

1:32:48

was great. With an RBI. Yeah, it

1:32:50

sacrifices what it would just be. Does that count? But

1:32:52

I don't know how many outs there are. If there are two outs,

1:32:54

obviously, she's not getting an RBI. We'll see. So

1:32:57

hold on. That person just went home before she

1:32:59

gets tagged out here. It's still doesn't count. Yeah,

1:33:01

correct. Well, usually it doesn't take 30 minutes to

1:33:03

get to first. Yeah,

1:33:05

she needed to hurry up. Like if she wanted to get on

1:33:08

base, she should have been a little bit faster. Move, lady. There

1:33:11

it is. Celebrate. I believe.

1:33:13

Walk. Don't even look at her. No.

1:33:16

Don't even look at her. Just celebrate and walk it off. But

1:33:19

Deshaun Watson, he's back after another

1:33:21

year. I mean, the Cleveland Browns got

1:33:23

to figure out they just extended head coach Angie. Remember

1:33:25

their defense last year? Remember their

1:33:27

defense especially early, how they were dominant early. They

1:33:29

gave up like 10 first downs in the first

1:33:31

seven weeks or something like that in combined. They

1:33:33

had to pay a Marry Cooper, pay him what

1:33:35

he's worth. Oh yeah, Marry Cooper's not there. He's

1:33:37

pissed. Marry Cooper wants a little bit more money.

1:33:40

Couldn't be tough to pay a Marry Cooper, mostly

1:33:43

because you're paying the quarterback $230 million guaranteed. So

1:33:47

that's obviously going to eat in the salary cap. Obviously, a

1:33:49

Marry Cooper is not the only one that's

1:33:51

missing some of these mandatory minigames.

1:33:53

We talked about Hassan Riddick and

1:33:55

Aaron Rodgers, both unexcused.

1:33:57

You know, Hassan Riddick had not been there.

1:34:00

For the Jets Aaron Rodgers had been at every

1:34:02

single one except for these two days and coach

1:34:04

I talked about it. Do we know about a

1:34:06

Mari Cooper? Has he been at any of the

1:34:09

Off-season workouts has this been something that have

1:34:11

been brewing? Yeah, I don't think he's been

1:34:13

at anything And then also I assume it

1:34:15

doesn't help that they did trade for Jerry

1:34:17

Judy and then give him a pretty massive

1:34:19

contract, too Yeah, and that's always gonna cause

1:34:21

a little bit of a conversation in the

1:34:23

locker room Whenever your position gets money to

1:34:25

gives money to somebody else that has never

1:34:27

done anything for your team Mark

1:34:30

Cooper's like me and Joe Flacco got to the playoffs

1:34:32

like yeah for this day 250 yards Joe Flacco And

1:34:36

I got to the playoffs and you pay

1:34:38

guy who was on terrible Denver Broncos who

1:34:40

had to fire everybody Yeah, tell

1:34:42

me how that makes sense How's that work and then they're like

1:34:44

buddy we paid a quarterback that didn't do anything for us

1:34:46

or anybody for 230 million dollars This is

1:34:48

our game standard. This is all right. This

1:34:50

is what we do around here But AJ to your

1:34:53

point where you made last week Cleveland

1:34:55

Browns have extended a head coaching contract for

1:34:57

the first time and seemingly ever so Maybe

1:35:00

the Cleveland Browns are gonna be a wagon this

1:35:02

year and they're finally getting some stability and they're

1:35:04

starting to figure it out We'll never know when

1:35:06

I looked back when AJ did say I think

1:35:08

was like in the 80s or 70s something like

1:35:10

that since they've Had since they since they've gave

1:35:12

a second contract to a head coach if I

1:35:14

if I looked correctly Yeah, that's a long ass

1:35:16

time. He hasn't been at anything and he's going

1:35:18

to his last year of his contract Okay, so

1:35:20

he wants money. We'll see how that goes Let's

1:35:22

stay in Ohio T Higgins for the Cincinnati Bengals

1:35:24

did not report to mandatory minicamp either obviously

1:35:26

Contract situation is brewing with him and

1:35:28

Jamar Chase both in the wide receiver

1:35:30

room both wanting a new payday T

1:35:32

Higgins got franchise tags. I don't believe

1:35:34

he has signed it So I don't

1:35:36

think this mandatory thing means anything because

1:35:39

he's currently not under contract He's not

1:35:41

an NFL player right now when he

1:35:43

signs a franchise tag, then he's back

1:35:45

to being an NFL player He could

1:35:47

be traded for another place Obviously

1:35:49

they could sign him long term until the cutoff

1:35:51

point is T. Higgins is a dog Everybody on

1:35:53

earth is expecting him to play this one

1:35:56

year with Cincinnati and then he'll be

1:35:58

on another team So mandatory minicamp hooking

1:36:00

he says, Jamar Chase is there though. Darius

1:36:02

J Butler, which I think is indicative of

1:36:04

how everybody in Cincinnati feels, he will get

1:36:06

paid and remain with Cincinnati Bank. Smart, he

1:36:08

won't get fined obviously for missing mandatory. And

1:36:10

yes, he will get paid probably close to

1:36:12

his old running mate, that Justin Jefferson number,

1:36:14

which is obviously gonna be up there and

1:36:17

to your point, it's probably be the last

1:36:19

year you'll see this one, two punch with

1:36:21

T and Jamar. Just hope

1:36:23

Burrow obviously can stay healthy this year. Everything has

1:36:25

been up and up this off season and Jamar

1:36:27

Chase, I mean, since he's stepped foot

1:36:30

in the league, he's literally on fire. So I'll be excited to

1:36:32

see those three running back. He looks so

1:36:35

cool. Hey, John, whoa. That's

1:36:37

the zoo when they killed Harambe. Harambe

1:36:39

did die in the Cincinnati Zoo. So

1:36:41

not sure. They built that set inside

1:36:43

the stadium. Look at that door in

1:36:45

the back. Look at that door in

1:36:47

the back. That might be Harambe's pet.

1:36:50

Could be. Yeah, better. Hopefully they

1:36:52

got him locked away. Where's the bangle? Bring

1:36:54

the bangle out. Well, it's Jamar Chase is

1:36:56

the bangle. Oh, they don't have a bring

1:36:59

out the bangle animal. No. Oh

1:37:01

yeah. He is the bangle since they bangle. Yeah. Yeah.

1:37:05

With a tiger, a bangle tiger, or maybe on a chain

1:37:07

or something like Mike Tyson back in the day. Yeah. Yeah,

1:37:09

it would be cool. You know, there's tigers in the Middle

1:37:11

East. They got them as pets. There's

1:37:13

hopping and pools on my Instagram. Yeah.

1:37:16

Until they're not. Yeah. Until

1:37:18

you're dead. People do those photo ops

1:37:21

all the time with tiger. Well, let's go. Yeah.

1:37:24

but like over

1:37:26

in the Middle East, they're just walking around with

1:37:29

these. Oh yeah. I've seen those videos,

1:37:31

man. They're crazy. Like as if you're

1:37:33

walking, you're fucking dog. They're just walking

1:37:35

a full grown tiger. Shane obviously say,

1:37:37

Hey, I guess it had tire thing,

1:37:40

but here's walking with, and then hopping

1:37:42

in the pool. Domesticated. He's hopping

1:37:44

in the fucking pool. Never seen that. They're real

1:37:46

deal. You ever seen them drive on those two?

1:37:48

Oh yeah. And then you see them roll and

1:37:50

then get caught. Yeah. People are saying

1:37:52

that was fake. Yeah. Uh-huh. The

1:37:54

beach one still standing by that. That was real. That

1:37:57

was definitely real, but no bangle tigers for their

1:37:59

photo shoot, which. is certainly

1:38:01

safe it feels like but there is a Jamar

1:38:03

Chase sighting and you're right the Cincinnati Bengals are

1:38:05

on the up and up that old set design

1:38:07

was good let's go back to what Mark Aboli

1:38:10

said about the IHUC situation brewing you know how

1:38:12

much money he's gonna want allegedly it

1:38:14

was said he wants to hear Michael Pittman's number which was like

1:38:16

27 so 26 27 seems to be what he is hunting

1:38:21

for I have no idea how

1:38:23

that works out who it works

1:38:25

out for obviously the 49ers paid

1:38:27

Juwan Jennings a couple weeks ago

1:38:29

they drafted Ricky Pearson out of

1:38:31

Florida rookie wide receiver and this is

1:38:33

just gonna continue to brew I think

1:38:35

as they try to take advantage of

1:38:37

Purdy's incredibly small contract but haven't been

1:38:39

able to do it for literally everybody

1:38:41

on the team and IHUC seems to

1:38:43

be the one that it's maybe not

1:38:45

gonna work out for which makes an

1:38:47

Indianapolis Colts fan happy and a lot

1:38:50

of other teams happy because he's a

1:38:52

special talent but this is like success

1:38:54

problems every once in a while this

1:38:56

is gonna brew yeah and they gave

1:38:58

McCaffrey that extension as well and he's

1:39:00

on the cover of Madden congratulations

1:39:02

Christian McCaffrey on the cover of

1:39:04

Madden I have no idea how

1:39:07

much money that brings

1:39:09

from a marketing deal but I do know

1:39:11

you have that up in your office you

1:39:13

know for the rest of your life oh

1:39:16

yeah last running back that was up there

1:39:18

was Peyton Hill's Cleveland Browns so yeah here's

1:39:21

running backs have not been Adrian never Peterson

1:39:23

was never there he was

1:39:25

before yep March on was as well

1:39:28

but I think it was before Peyton

1:39:30

oh my sweet pics good March on would have

1:39:33

been after yeah March I would have definitely been

1:39:35

on there too so that's wrong

1:39:37

maybe I'm thinking about Richard Sherman that's who

1:39:39

the Seattle Seahawks whatever the case congratulations to

1:39:41

Christian McCaffrey getting a man everybody's pumped up

1:39:44

about that everybody's not worried about

1:39:46

the curse not worried anymore they used to be

1:39:48

worried about the curse some people I saw say

1:39:50

is it there's many people gonna be playing Madden

1:39:52

this year because college football no one's buying it

1:39:54

they're not gonna change it this is this is

1:39:56

the year where it's like okay we actually do

1:39:58

have to go back in the a lot of

1:40:00

change this game because no one's going to buy it because

1:40:02

the NCAA. Because they haven't been checked at all by any

1:40:05

other game ever. Right. That's the big conversation

1:40:07

about Madden. I was very lucky to be in Madden. Obviously

1:40:09

on April 1st, I think you could still pump with

1:40:11

me right now on Madden, which is

1:40:13

always my first time in the game and a long

1:40:15

time. A shout out to the

1:40:18

Madden people kind of making that whole thing

1:40:20

happen and shit with it. But like a

1:40:22

lot of complaining from the Madden community about

1:40:24

the Madden game for a long time. And

1:40:27

I don't play, I suck at video games. But

1:40:29

the Madden community says like, they've just

1:40:32

kind of, Lesley fared this

1:40:34

thing because they know how much money they're going to

1:40:36

get every time they drop. They haven't really updated a

1:40:38

lot of shit. Some of the controls are cropped, the

1:40:40

franchise modes cropped, some of this is cropped. That's cropped.

1:40:43

You hear literally Madden players say this about Madden.

1:40:45

So much so that they wanted to protest Madden,

1:40:47

but they were never able to do it because

1:40:50

they were Madden players and a new Madden drop.

1:40:52

So you have to play Madden. Now with college

1:40:54

football coming back into the fray. Little competition is

1:40:56

a good thing. Maybe we'll make Madden

1:40:58

better. Maybe the college football game will push that

1:41:00

and it's good for all gamers as a whole.

1:41:03

But we need not hold this against Christian McCaffrey.

1:41:05

No. If this one does not move. No,

1:41:07

no. You know, that is a conversation needs to

1:41:09

be had. You are seemingly a maddener. Yeah. College football

1:41:11

game is going to be the one that's picking your interest first

1:41:13

though. Yeah. I mean, you could

1:41:15

make the argument that the NCAA 14 game has been

1:41:17

the best game since 2014, that

1:41:20

EA Sports has put out. That's a football game. That's

1:41:22

the biggest problem is that the EA game for

1:41:24

the NCAA is so much better just as far

1:41:27

as like the way the game is played. And

1:41:29

it's the same company making the Madden game. That's

1:41:31

what doesn't make any sense is that it's

1:41:33

not as if 2K is making the college

1:41:36

game and you know, Madden has the monopoly

1:41:38

on the pro game. It's the exact same

1:41:40

company, but they just refuse to make anything

1:41:42

significantly better that people actually want to be

1:41:44

better. Well, good luck in your video games.

1:41:46

Can't wait. I'm gonna play the college one.

1:41:48

Yeah. Because you can just learn

1:41:50

everybody's names. Playbooks pretty quickly. And

1:41:53

with Transfer Portal now, you know, who's where we don't know

1:41:55

until that game comes out. That's

1:41:57

right. Stefan

1:42:00

Diggs is chit-chatting as a Houston Texan. I

1:42:02

think it's the first time I've heard him

1:42:04

in Houston texting your talk about his life

1:42:06

before getting to Houston. Pretty beautiful sentiment to

1:42:09

be true. Josh Allen said that

1:42:11

you were very instrumental in making him the

1:42:13

quarterback that he was, my dad, you

1:42:15

know, that he is now. How instrumental

1:42:17

do you think Josh was to helping you elevate

1:42:19

to the next level of receiving

1:42:21

that you ended up becoming? I

1:42:24

feel like he was an

1:42:26

intricate piece in my career because at

1:42:28

that point, you know, when

1:42:31

I left Minnesota or whatever, like I was a good

1:42:33

player, you know what I'm saying, but

1:42:35

I always felt more for myself. I felt

1:42:37

like I was better than that, that I

1:42:39

could be better than that. And I kind of,

1:42:41

up to that point, I was just like, shit, I'm going

1:42:43

to roll the dice and better myself. You know what I'm

1:42:46

saying? And he sent me to Buffalo. I

1:42:49

don't know if they sent me to Buffalo with the most

1:42:51

kindest, you know, with the most great intent, but Oswald

1:42:54

Inzweil, you know, when I got to

1:42:56

Buffalo, Josh was still my guy, you

1:42:58

know what I'm saying? Like people

1:43:00

don't really understand when it's like to be out there,

1:43:02

you know what I'm saying? And he really embraced me,

1:43:04

you know what I'm saying? He kind of had that

1:43:06

Southern hospitality, you know what I'm saying? So for me,

1:43:08

he embraced me, spent a lot of time, and

1:43:12

I probably wouldn't be right here if it wasn't mine. You

1:43:14

know, I got a lot of love for that boy. So y'all

1:43:17

give him a hug and a kiss for me. Oh,

1:43:19

that's awesome to hear, obviously, because there was a lot

1:43:21

of drama potentially being stirred by a lot of things

1:43:23

that were said, a lot of actions that took place,

1:43:26

some games that weren't won, and then obviously family members

1:43:28

sending out some tweets about how somebody sucked until somebody

1:43:30

arrived. There was a lot of drama, you know, through

1:43:33

that relationship. Now, a lot

1:43:35

more successful football than drama, but the drama

1:43:37

is always going to get brought up whenever,

1:43:39

you know, you have a little bit of

1:43:41

a breakup or a move on or some

1:43:43

tweets or some things like that that get

1:43:45

into the national conversation about it all. I

1:43:47

did appreciate him saying, I think when Minnesota

1:43:49

sent me to Buffalo, it wasn't like the

1:43:52

kindest intent. So I appreciate that he's like,

1:43:54

they tried to send me to die in

1:43:56

Buffalo, and then they go on to become

1:43:58

a wagon and become very successful. Team

1:44:00

obviously doesn't win Super Bowl, but make it

1:44:02

very far in playoffs, experience some

1:44:05

big games, just weren't able to get over the hump.

1:44:07

What are your thoughts on how we handled that question

1:44:09

there, AJ? And how do we think

1:44:11

this goes with Houston and CJ Shroud with Stefan Diggs?

1:44:13

Well, I mean, first of all, it should go amazing

1:44:15

with Houston. We saw what CJ was able to do.

1:44:19

If he's able to just continue on the path

1:44:21

that he is and progress, continue to

1:44:23

progress as a quarterback, yeah, it's going to be a

1:44:25

great stay for Stefan Diggs. But as far as him

1:44:28

speaking about Josh, I don't know. I thought that was

1:44:30

great. It almost looked like he was almost emotional talking

1:44:32

about such a good friend and a teammate. I'm not

1:44:34

saying he was, but I would have understood if he

1:44:36

did. I just, it's cool to see

1:44:38

Diggs do that. You're not used to seeing Diggs speak

1:44:40

to the media when it's stuff like that. People I

1:44:42

feel like are always trying to go to him into

1:44:44

talking about somebody or saying something about a

1:44:46

coach or the schedule or trying to make it negative. Being

1:44:49

a wide receiver. They try to get him into being a

1:44:51

wide receiver. Yeah, and Diggs is absolutely explosive as we've seen

1:44:53

all these highlights continue to run,

1:44:55

but it's cool to see, yeah, how much love he

1:44:57

has for his old QB. And I'm sure he's going

1:44:59

to love his new QB as well. Wide receivers have

1:45:01

to have the mindset that they want the ball every

1:45:04

single play publicly, privately. Like that is literally how wide

1:45:06

receivers are wired. That's why you hear a

1:45:08

lot more sound bites normally out of the wide receivers than

1:45:11

anybody else, because they're dependent upon so many other

1:45:13

people for them to have success. But

1:45:15

they know if they get the ball, their team's going

1:45:18

to have massive success. Now that can

1:45:20

kind of come off in multiple different ways. Not saying

1:45:22

just what Stefan Diggs, I'm just saying with the position

1:45:24

group as a whole, Stefan and Josh made each other

1:45:26

better. I think they both understand that too. That's

1:45:29

what I heard from that entire. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You can

1:45:31

look at the numbers. Obviously numbers don't lie. He's

1:45:33

obviously competitive as hell, but top five

1:45:36

and all my targets catches kind

1:45:38

of towards the end. The targets kind of

1:45:40

got funny. And obviously we've made a lot of speculation

1:45:42

on the outside about the relationship, but he's moved on

1:45:44

obviously to a new chapter. You do

1:45:47

kind of wonder, okay, how does that, how is

1:45:49

it going to impact CJ Stroud, you know, being

1:45:51

such a young quarterback, but had opportunity to golf

1:45:53

with Nick Casario and Houston this past weekend. Out there

1:45:55

with Liv and Nick is not. absolute

1:46:00

stick by the way he won't tell you

1:46:02

but and Bryce and Bryce D. Shambo, Thomas

1:46:04

Peters, but Nick just talked about how high

1:46:06

he has been on Staphon, how great he's

1:46:08

been in the building, how great that whole

1:46:10

group has been up into this point. So,

1:46:12

I'm looking forward to what the obviously except

1:46:14

the two times they play us looking forward

1:46:16

to what Houston, Texas do next year. Yeah,

1:46:18

that's breaking. Nick is here talking to highly

1:46:20

of what's the fun digs not only brings

1:46:23

the team but how he's been around the

1:46:25

building and that's great to hear obviously and

1:46:27

I think a lot of people talking about

1:46:29

Staphon Diggs love him. He's been on our

1:46:31

show. He's been great but then there's just

1:46:33

those moments of competitive edge and competitive juices

1:46:35

that take place that obviously start **** in

1:46:37

controversy and drama happen in Minnesota towards the

1:46:39

end and happen in Buffalo now with Houston

1:46:41

fresh start new team plus a vibe that

1:46:43

seemingly will fit him perfectly. I'm excited to

1:46:45

see what they do down there now. They

1:46:47

gotta play the Indianapolis Gold. So, there's gonna

1:46:51

be a welcome to the AFC South

1:46:53

moment. First of all, Diggs, but yeah,

1:46:55

I hate how good the Houston Texans

1:46:57

are and are seemingly getting and that's

1:46:59

just that's just good **** out

1:47:02

of Casario D'Amico ownership because just a few

1:47:04

years ago, they were a dumpster fire. Speaking

1:47:06

of dumpster fires, we're running into one with

1:47:08

the kickoff rule and what it was people

1:47:10

are getting injured even though we didn't see

1:47:12

it. Numbers are saying that people are getting

1:47:14

injured. The play had basically become extinct. It

1:47:16

was something to go take. You know, maybe

1:47:19

a leak at Dumper buy some food. There's

1:47:21

a kickoff happening. A kicker is gonna kick

1:47:23

a ball further than ever before. Now, this

1:47:25

upcoming year, there's a brand new kickoff rule

1:47:27

that's almost gonna force teams to have to

1:47:29

kick it to the returners. There's a landing

1:47:31

zone. There's a coverage area. There's a kicker

1:47:33

standing all by themselves and what they're projecting

1:47:35

is 1500 more returns happening

1:47:39

next NFL season. Now, some NFL teams have come out

1:47:41

and said they moved the touch back from 25 to

1:47:43

the 30. We're still

1:47:45

just gonna do touch backs. We'll just give them

1:47:47

the ball on the 30. If that's the case,

1:47:50

do they do move that to 35

1:47:52

because obviously 35, 30, and 25, the percentage of scoring

1:47:56

are vastly different but a lot of us

1:47:58

are expecting kickoffs in the landings. with

1:48:01

return opportunities. All the

1:48:03

kickers and all the special teams coaches

1:48:05

have been watching the XFL's attempt at

1:48:07

this particular kickoff. And there's

1:48:09

one thing seemingly coming out of

1:48:11

the conversation from the special teams.

1:48:14

Here's Justin Tucker addressing it all.

1:48:16

Yeah, it is. You know,

1:48:18

just like a pitcher tries to develop this stuff, I'm

1:48:20

doing the same thing out here, trying

1:48:23

to figure out whichever way we can,

1:48:26

in our minds, gain an advantage, gain an edge.

1:48:30

And whether that means

1:48:32

putting the ball in different

1:48:34

spots, making it challenging for

1:48:36

a returner to scoop

1:48:38

up the ball easily. All

1:48:41

of those things we're looking at right now, granted

1:48:44

we are kind of in the fledgling

1:48:46

stages of what we're trying to accomplish

1:48:48

here, what we're trying to figure out.

1:48:51

So, like you said, we are in

1:48:53

the lab and

1:48:55

more recently my lab has actually been the weight

1:48:57

room. This might be really surprising to a lot

1:48:59

of you guys and

1:49:01

a lot of my teammates, because I don't spend

1:49:04

the hangout in the weight room too frequently. But

1:49:07

after watching all of these XFL

1:49:09

plays over the last couple of years, kickers

1:49:11

seems to be involved in like 25% of the

1:49:14

tackles. So,

1:49:18

I mean, I've mixed it

1:49:20

up a couple of times. You know, I've

1:49:22

gotten in there. But now I gotta get

1:49:24

some more shrugs, get the traps going a little bit,

1:49:26

just to make sure I'm prepared to, prepared

1:49:29

for a little bit more contact. Well, 3.8 pounds

1:49:32

allegedly is what he is getting. He's 188 last

1:49:34

year, so he's clocking in at 191.8. Absolute

1:49:39

twisted steel and sex appeal. But that is

1:49:41

a combo that a lot of special teams coaches

1:49:43

have put out and kickers have put out.

1:49:45

Like, hey, in this particular setup, it's very easy

1:49:47

to break through the front line. And once

1:49:49

you do that, the kicker is involved

1:49:51

in it. He's not saying the kicker is making an attack,

1:49:53

but the kicker is gonna be in the area. And

1:49:56

if you're one of those kickers who has never

1:49:58

really had any physical. Interaction in

1:50:00

your entire life boy

1:50:03

it gets scary as shit out there for some

1:50:05

of these guys go hit some pads boys That

1:50:07

needs to happen stat. Yeah, I feel like a

1:50:09

team like the Ravens for Justin Tucker They're a

1:50:11

prime candidate. Hey kick this ball out of the

1:50:13

end zone like we don't need you get you

1:50:16

hurt like we need your ass Hey your actual

1:50:18

weapon. Yeah, exactly. So you will not 25% Yeah,

1:50:21

I'm sorry if it's 25% of the

1:50:23

plays that kickers involved in contact They're gonna

1:50:25

start kicking the body end zone You don't

1:50:27

want your kicker involved in 25% of return,

1:50:29

especially Justin Tucker. Yeah, that's a goat right

1:50:31

there And they're they're probably looking around like do

1:50:34

we want there to even be a chance for a roll-up

1:50:36

on talk? No, he could hit a 60 more to win

1:50:38

this big. No, they don't know they don't know how to

1:50:40

act around a pile, too Like that's a thing. Yeah. I'll

1:50:43

knew you gotta keep your heads. Yeah, they're shit coming, you

1:50:45

know, it's Let's get to

1:50:47

work boys. Let's get in the lab talk. We need

1:50:49

you next year. Yeah, it would be sweetie Lay somebody

1:50:51

all right. We're back tomorrow. Be a friend telephone something

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Abercrombie and fit you had their biggest

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is Walmart now Abercrombie is like Goodwill

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is a brand new place. They've had their best

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Ain't that right? Toxic table at pasta corner

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and at Taishman. Absolutely. What did you know,

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stuff of legends truly. Yeah, you know, he

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could potentially help out the entire sports world

1:52:25

though. Yeah, all he has to do is tell

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us what's the big

1:52:30

ordeal that Aaron Rodgers has that

1:52:33

coach Salah said that

1:52:36

ain't fucking worth a practice. What do you what do you

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think it is AJ if you had the guest just as

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a human who knows the answer and he's gonna try not

1:52:42

to say it. I mean, I

1:52:44

do not know the answer. I really do.

1:52:46

But to miss mini camp has got to

1:52:48

be something big. Like to have this scheduled

1:52:50

out in advance. Don't you think like it's

1:52:53

got to be something that's very meaningful to

1:52:55

him. I think so too. And Bob Salah

1:52:57

said a life event or something like that.

1:52:59

So that he was very big to him.

1:53:02

And maybe his tattoo guy became available.

1:53:04

Oh, he did get it. I know

1:53:06

that guy's pretty guys is top the

1:53:08

ball. No, it's tough to schedule. Yeah,

1:53:10

tough to book. Break into that artist's

1:53:13

timeline. Obviously, maybe it is a new

1:53:15

time. There is a show game of Thrones

1:53:17

starting on Sunday. Maybe he's traveling to England

1:53:19

to be at the premiere for the game

1:53:21

of Thrones show. Holy shit. Huge game of

1:53:23

Thrones guy. Let's check

1:53:25

commercial flights from New

1:53:28

York to do that. Yeah, check

1:53:30

the commercial ones. That's probably check

1:53:32

Southwest. Check frontier Southwest. I just

1:53:34

saw King Charles painting was vandalized

1:53:36

by animal rights activists could have

1:53:38

been aired. That's one half the

1:53:41

hammer. Cowboys turned into I'm not

1:53:43

sure if that's what he was doing. But it could

1:53:45

have been like that's how many plan

1:53:47

this out in advance before OTA. So maybe

1:53:49

he knew the painting was coming weird painting.

1:53:52

Yeah, that was a weird portrait. Right. What's

1:53:54

going on? Probably

1:53:57

what? That's not Aaron. It

1:54:00

might be aired. No cheese. I mean,

1:54:03

Cromit. Look at all this

1:54:05

cruelty on our. I

1:54:07

shouldn't be messing with art. No matter how bad the art

1:54:09

is. You shouldn't be messing with it. They're not messers. There's

1:54:11

security. There's covers on it. You can just walk right up

1:54:13

to that weird ass King portrait and just do whatever you,

1:54:16

they just rolled that son of a bitch heads on. There's

1:54:18

like glass in front of you. Tell you what, it's not

1:54:20

really. Tell you what, some things should be brought back. It's

1:54:22

not really on the painting. What should be

1:54:24

brought back? What was that Tony? Can you imagine if

1:54:26

you would have done this to, I don't know, King Henry or

1:54:29

any of the other great Kings of the

1:54:31

past year, your head would be at a

1:54:33

guillotine. We got, they got euros to worry

1:54:36

about right now. They're everybody's public executions. What

1:54:38

do you want to bring back? Whatever the

1:54:40

case. That's a weird. That was so that

1:54:42

wasn't Aaron. That wasn't on there. No, those

1:54:44

are the things though. I've been filming. We

1:54:46

got to keep, you're right. We have no

1:54:49

idea who's behind that. I don't

1:54:51

know if he's an animal activist, but I mean,

1:54:53

maybe, uh, what if it comes

1:54:55

out that it's something like very sentimental, you

1:54:57

know, like what do you mean?

1:54:59

Like what, like what, like what if it's something that

1:55:02

is like actually, Oh yeah, that's like a once in

1:55:04

a lifetime. You know, like what if that comes out

1:55:06

publicly and then coach, uh, I understand

1:55:08

it was real cool. Okay. Everybody

1:55:11

just told me how cool it was. Just handling it that way makes no sense,

1:55:13

but they're going to talk about it. Uh, it

1:55:15

is going to be talked about by everybody

1:55:17

nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. He's

1:55:19

here. D butts mandatory mini camp.

1:55:21

What are your thoughts on it? What should we

1:55:23

be taken away from this? Should we be taking

1:55:26

anything serious that comes from any

1:55:28

of these mandatory mini camp practices? I think the

1:55:30

biggest deals always, you know, guys with deals, you

1:55:32

know, if they're getting done, are they showing up?

1:55:34

Are they holding out? And obviously that's going to

1:55:36

be a storyline leading into training camp. But usually,

1:55:38

I mean, this is, you go there for probably

1:55:40

one, maybe two days, you know, put the last

1:55:42

little fine tune on your team. And then you

1:55:44

have that one last conversation with everybody. Hey, everybody

1:55:46

be a pro. Take care of each other. Be

1:55:49

smart, uh, show up in shape because you do

1:55:51

have a decent break. That is good. Players needed

1:55:53

the coaches needed the front office. People need it.

1:55:56

And then when you come back, hopefully you hit the ground running.

1:55:58

A lot of squealing tires in parking. at

1:56:00

the end of these mandatory mini camps. And

1:56:02

it's not from the players. That's

1:56:05

the coaches getting fucked up. It's their only time.

1:56:07

It's their only time where they can go see

1:56:09

their family and spend a couple of weeks. Yeah,

1:56:11

they're reintroducing themselves to their kids and their wives

1:56:14

because that's the first time they've seen them

1:56:16

since last season kicked off.

1:56:19

You know, as soon as the season ends, then

1:56:22

we got to get ready for combine. Then

1:56:24

we got to get ready for draft. Now, are we going

1:56:26

to listen to your takes? Probably

1:56:28

not. We need you to have them and

1:56:31

opinions on every single player that could be in your

1:56:33

room. So go ahead and watch every

1:56:35

single play that they've ever had since

1:56:37

high school on all of them, just in case

1:56:39

they end up on our team. It's your job.

1:56:41

You get paid to do it. You're lucky to

1:56:44

do it. Remember that. Sleep in your office, even

1:56:46

though every other human on earth is at home,

1:56:48

that's life of a football coach. That's why when

1:56:50

these mandatory mini camps are over, boy, they are

1:56:53

pumped. And if the head coach throws them, you

1:56:56

know, like a little bit of an olive branch and cancels

1:56:58

the last one, which happens and has happened

1:57:00

on a regular basis, which is why the

1:57:03

handling of the inexcused absence

1:57:05

for Aaron Rodgers just makes no sense. It makes

1:57:07

no sense how you can handle that. So many

1:57:10

different ways. I want to know why you'd want

1:57:12

to start any drama. Now, Aaron could come out

1:57:14

and save them and say, yup, very understandable. We

1:57:16

all, I told him that what I

1:57:18

was doing was pretty, pretty important to me. And I

1:57:21

thought we had a good relationship, you know, like, and I'm 20

1:57:23

years into this thing. I think I've been in the NFL longer

1:57:25

than him. Probably part

1:57:27

of the reason he was at all the OTAs as well. He

1:57:30

knew he wasn't gonna be a camp. Showing face here, right? Haven't

1:57:32

I, you know, a lot of things. I

1:57:34

have all these, voluntary is the word. About the

1:57:36

cool social clubs have us thrown. Yeah, everybody's loving

1:57:38

it. I'm no

1:57:41

looking everywhere. The Cavs are

1:57:43

getting back to full size after the Achilles, just

1:57:45

remember all that stuff. And then this thing just,

1:57:48

I don't think so, Coach Ellis says, weird.

1:57:52

I think he's gonna post a picture wherever he is.

1:57:54

I mean, what if it is just the dumbest thing?

1:57:56

And is he gonna do that stupid hashtag shit that

1:57:58

he does? Yeah, the hashtag. Probably. Yeah,

1:58:00

he loves you for asking grateful. No,

1:58:03

it's he puts the hashtag at the

1:58:06

end. Yeah, right. Yeah, remember He

1:58:08

mocks the hashtag. He loves it. Oh, yeah. Oh

1:58:11

these fucking assholes with their hash names Let me

1:58:13

tell him what I think what I think of

1:58:15

this entire thing I can't wait to see what

1:58:17

it is. But here comes some more drop I

1:58:19

would like to your Greenberg's first thought my Greenberg

1:58:21

trust on of course you had to say it

1:58:24

Why'd you say it Salah didn't need to say

1:58:26

it just green you losing his mind speaking

1:58:28

of losing in minds Fourth of July

1:58:30

is gonna be different this year. Mm-hmm. Never the

1:58:32

same Fourth of July, you

1:58:35

know One

1:58:37

of the greatest called shots in history because

1:58:39

the war did not end On the

1:58:41

Fourth of July didn't end until the next year actually

1:58:43

But it was called shot that we are gonna have

1:58:45

our independence and we're gonna be country and although we

1:58:47

are certainly nowhere near perfect We

1:58:50

are a place that everybody seemingly wants to get to

1:58:52

because you can accomplish the American dream here I think

1:58:54

I am one of those people

1:58:56

that have been able to experience it I'm very

1:58:58

thankful for all the opportunities AJ as well and

1:59:00

plenty others around the country are able

1:59:03

to accomplish things now We're not perfect. But on

1:59:05

4th of July whenever we're celebrating Becoming

1:59:07

a nation and becoming the red white

1:59:09

and blue and you know you

1:59:11

got people out on lakes and barbecues and

1:59:14

cookouts and grilling everywhere and Thinking

1:59:16

about the good things that potentially take

1:59:18

place. There's one thing they

1:59:20

always turn on There's one thing you

1:59:22

watch always you say which

1:59:24

motherfucker on this earth? Can

1:59:27

sucked on the most amount of hot dogs

1:59:29

and buns and it's

1:59:31

always one name Fucking

1:59:34

Joey chestnut before it

1:59:36

was not Joey chestnut. There's a

1:59:38

lot of conversations. Japan obviously had Incredible

1:59:41

Kobyashi who Was

1:59:43

a solid competitor and certainly

1:59:45

put the dog sucking Competition

1:59:48

on the mat because what he was able to do

1:59:50

with his shape and size was obviously

1:59:53

phenomenal And then this American fuck Joey

1:59:55

Josh chestnut came through and just wrecked

1:59:57

the entire game. This is my game

2:00:00

This is on 4th of July. This is my game

2:00:02

now. This is our game now forever Well

2:00:05

forever has ended Joey Josh chest. I

2:00:07

will not be competing in the Nathan saw dog eating contest

2:00:09

Wow Travesty Don call

2:00:12

it Joey Josh

2:00:14

test not who has won what 40 straight That

2:00:17

actually made them do it last year because

2:00:19

the Thunder there was a little bit of

2:00:21

rain or something and Joey Josh Chest on

2:00:23

his favorite their fucking contest. Yeah, I said

2:00:25

he was marching around This

2:00:27

is a little right get a raincoat. He's I

2:00:29

don't need one, but you guys can get one

2:00:31

We're doing this for the United States of America.

2:00:33

We're doing this for the people were doing this

2:00:35

for tradition We're doing this because this is what

2:00:37

4th of July is that's what Joey Josh chest not

2:00:39

did a man who lives in Indiana now? Who's your?

2:00:43

Now I won't be competing because he signed a deal

2:00:45

with a vegan hot dog company What

2:00:47

impossible foods they? They

2:00:50

make a plant-based hot dog, which I'm

2:00:53

sure it's delightful And I don't even know

2:00:55

what's in real hot dogs, and I don't

2:00:57

think we should look into it No, I

2:00:59

don't think we should find out what's in

2:01:01

it as people that still eat hot dogs

2:01:03

But since he signed with the vegan hot

2:01:05

dog company Nathan's is not gonna let

2:01:07

him in the 4th

2:01:10

of July major league eating hot dog

2:01:12

eating contest that he's dominated and The

2:01:15

entire country's fucking bum day Jay. I don't even know

2:01:17

if people are gonna light off fireworks now Well,

2:01:20

how much did this impossible foods? How much could they

2:01:22

have paid Joey chestnut for him to do this had

2:01:24

to be a lot I mean this had to be

2:01:27

a massive amount of money in the article from the

2:01:29

New York Post There's a couple times where major league

2:01:31

eating said they reached out to Joey and his management

2:01:33

to try to figure this thing out Even

2:01:35

something about a waiver or whatever. It feels like

2:01:38

there's a chance that Nathan's is like not

2:01:40

large I

2:01:44

Say this Nathan's it's a

2:01:46

hot dog eating contest if this vegan hot dog

2:01:48

eating guy once he your hot dogs Why

2:01:50

don't you use that as an opportunity to remind people your

2:01:52

hot dogs are better than other hot dogs? Why

2:01:55

are you scared of the greatest hot dog sucker

2:01:57

in the history of hot dogs sucking down might

2:01:59

do? better than your people because he's a

2:02:01

vegan hot dog guy. Let the

2:02:04

guy suck down dogs is

2:02:07

what we're all saying. And there's enough time to

2:02:09

figure this whole thing out. And I hope that

2:02:11

we're able to get it accomplished because if I

2:02:13

turn that on and I got some Bush league

2:02:15

fucking hot dog eaters on my TV, I'm not

2:02:18

gonna be impressed. If I see somebody put down

2:02:20

15 or 20 and they're

2:02:22

in second place, I'm gonna notice this is crap.

2:02:24

Yeah, bullshit. This is fucking crap. AK Shipley can

2:02:26

do this. Well, you speed will do this. You

2:02:28

know, Joe Hadley can do this. Yeah, sure. Zito

2:02:31

could potentially pull this off. I feel

2:02:33

like I, if you give me the

2:02:35

right vitamins could potentially do that. I

2:02:37

need to see the

2:02:40

disgusting show that Joey

2:02:42

just does. Yeah. And that's

2:02:44

how you celebrate America. They need to figure this out, AJ. I'm

2:02:46

bummed out. Is it possible though

2:02:48

that Joey wouldn't eat the old beef old

2:02:50

school dogs? No way. He wanted to eat

2:02:52

his own impossible dogs. Joey said, I'll eat

2:02:54

your beef. I'll eat their plants.

2:02:56

We don't care. I just want the title. I

2:03:00

want to be known. And the impossible foods people are like,

2:03:02

yeah, we got no problem with Joey winning

2:03:04

your contest. He's gonna come right

2:03:06

back to our plant-based hot dogs as your

2:03:08

champion. So they're probably dangling that over Nathan's

2:03:10

head a little bit. And Nathan's CEO was

2:03:12

like, we got a vegan hot dog company

2:03:14

talking shit to us. No way are we

2:03:16

letting this happen because imagine if he came

2:03:19

walking out dressed as a plant. Oh

2:03:21

boy. I don't think Jaws would do that.

2:03:23

Would Jaws do that? What if he came out dressed as

2:03:25

a plant? Brand new job. What plant?

2:03:27

This is vegan Joe. See that's the thing though. I

2:03:30

mean, we could say that Jaws, you know, likes eating

2:03:32

vegan hot dogs. I mean, he doesn't give a shit

2:03:34

about his health. I just saw the guy fucking wolfing

2:03:37

down pints of ice cream the other day at a

2:03:39

baseball game. He had like seven

2:03:41

pints of ice cream in under

2:03:43

two minutes. Like, so guess what? If you're

2:03:45

doing that, eating vegan dogs instead

2:03:47

of, you know, Nathan's Frank's, like that ain't

2:03:49

doing it for you. And for Nathan's to

2:03:51

say a rival hot dog company, nobody's

2:03:54

eating those fucking vegan hot dogs. Nobody

2:03:56

is. No, let's just let's, let's call a

2:03:58

spade a spade. Nobody. If ballpark

2:04:01

Frank Scott exactly what's coming

2:04:03

in there? Then I get if Vienna beef is

2:04:05

coming in and doing something then thank you now

2:04:07

We're talking this is bug windshield situation it is

2:04:09

I don't I don't know a lot of vegans.

2:04:12

That's all me I apologize. I live in Indiana.

2:04:14

It's not on you. I don't know how they're

2:04:16

not many here. Hey You're

2:04:19

allowed to be true. I honestly have no eat some

2:04:21

beef Okay, you're talking

2:04:23

you're talking Joey draws chest on right now

2:04:25

Yeah, but I don't know how many vegans

2:04:27

are thinking of once again I don't know a lot of them so this

2:04:30

is very hard for me to project and eat whatever the

2:04:32

hell you want to eat I don't give a fuck. Yeah,

2:04:34

yes brothers. I think I believe the DS brothers don't eat

2:04:36

me Yeah, exactly. They could beat fuck on air. So whatever

2:04:38

you want to eat I don't whatever makes you happy fuck

2:04:40

and do it is how I feel But I don't know

2:04:42

how many vegans like you know, I'll give you a hot

2:04:44

dog, right? Is that no that is not like a meal

2:04:46

Of choice can't sell that many. There's no way they're selling

2:04:49

a ton of them Well, they give enough money to Joey

2:04:51

jaws, but that was that from a funding round the money

2:04:53

for everything though I would assume it's not just their hot

2:04:55

dogs. They have all kinds of food that they also he's

2:04:57

just gonna Destroy the breakers. Yeah,

2:04:59

got a possible burgers. I think they did. Oh, yeah Breakfast

2:05:04

sausage, huh? No vegan ice cream

2:05:06

using not a chance When

2:05:09

is that possible is ice cream vegan? Yeah,

2:05:11

they have a vegan ice cream. It's made

2:05:13

with whatever Tom Brady some

2:05:15

other animals some fake

2:05:17

chemical Nipples

2:05:19

are you milking a cow? Yeah. Yeah. Have

2:05:22

you ever milked a cow? Yeah, I I

2:05:25

guess I may have when I was when I was young when I

2:05:27

was a kid like on a field trip. I've never done the With

2:05:31

the hands, but I did do the

2:05:33

the power sucker. He's put it on

2:05:37

Yep, and all of a sudden it just starts

2:05:39

filling up. What's the cow dude during that chill?

2:05:41

It's actually like relief They

2:05:44

need to right? Yeah, we're people get real

2:05:47

pissed about stealing the milk from a cow

2:05:49

obviously I'm walking in Phoenix or whatever Uh-huh.

2:05:51

Yeah, okay We

2:05:53

suck the milk from a mom without her even

2:05:55

knowing it but from the cow that I saw

2:05:57

mm-hmm seem to be very thrilled

2:06:00

that that milk was exiting the udder

2:06:02

at the time. Okay, good. Yeah. I

2:06:05

might be allergic to milk though, at my old age.

2:06:08

Really? Black toast? What happens? I

2:06:10

don't think so. I don't know. You can develop

2:06:12

it. I don't know. I just feel like shit after I

2:06:14

eat something. And I never, I'm not

2:06:16

good enough at writing down what I ate each day

2:06:18

so that the next day when I wake up and

2:06:21

I feel like shit, I can go back and see

2:06:23

like a trend, you know? But I do

2:06:25

think it is potentially a milk thing. You're still eating

2:06:27

cereal though, aren't you? No, haven't had cereal in a

2:06:29

while. Really? Haven't had cereal in a

2:06:31

while. I'm just saying, boy. Honey nut Cheerios I've

2:06:33

been having yesterday. What about like ice cream? What

2:06:35

if you eat ice cream? You feel bad? So

2:06:37

that's, but when I'm eating ice cream, if I'm

2:06:39

eating ice cream on a day, I've already said

2:06:41

fuck it to the whole day. So like I

2:06:43

mean pizza on that day too. Exactly. And I'm

2:06:45

eating other stuff. Waffles, pancakes. Cause I'm trying to

2:06:47

not be every day cheat day, you know? Which

2:06:49

is what life used to be. We need to

2:06:51

stay away from that, but I'll go get a

2:06:53

Blizzard. Woo. Extra, extra, extra

2:06:56

Oreo. Got that cookie place near you.

2:06:58

Oh, so good. So, but when I'm eating

2:07:00

that, it's already been a bad day. So the next morning when

2:07:03

I wake up, I'm like, could be.

2:07:05

Yeah. Could be absolutely. A thousand different things. It

2:07:08

was not vegan ice cream. We just got a piece

2:07:10

of information. Yeah. Oh, this is, where

2:07:13

was this at? Some ball game. Where

2:07:15

is it? I was in Toledo last night. Oh yeah.

2:07:17

It wasn't Toledo. He was at a Mud Hands game.

2:07:19

Yeah. Yeah. That's what he

2:07:21

said. That's what he said. Is that a vegan hot

2:07:23

dog? Is that what they look like? It better be.

2:07:25

It looks like it. It looks shocked. I would be

2:07:27

too. It looks like a fucking hot dog. What

2:07:29

a, that would be terrible to try to eat all this ice cream

2:07:31

that fast. Everything he does, but terrible. Told

2:07:34

you he ate pierogues at two different Cleveland Cavaliers

2:07:36

games that I was at. He, that's

2:07:39

a good show. It's a halftime show. I saw him drink 13

2:07:42

pints of beer in like

2:07:44

70 seconds or something like that. 70

2:07:46

seconds. Think about that. 13 pints of

2:07:48

beer. Doesn't seem safe. LeBron numbers. Could

2:07:51

he, well, how many beers could he bong at one time? You think? Oh,

2:07:54

that's great. Cause he has the ability to stretch his

2:07:56

stomach. It's like seven, seven at a time. Get him

2:07:58

a big old funnel. All right, we'll

2:08:00

try to figure out an event where we can get

2:08:02

him some vegan beer. Mm hmm. So I told him.

2:08:04

Maybe he's calling. Are we watching it now? No. No.

2:08:07

No. No way. You're not. I do

2:08:09

not give a fuck anymore. Who's the

2:08:12

favorite? Probably Eric Badlands Booker. There it

2:08:14

is. He's lemonade. He's drinking. Yeah. He's

2:08:16

drinking. Yeah, he owns the record for

2:08:18

drinking strawberry lemonade and lemonade. But

2:08:21

I mean, he'll wolf down some dogs for sure. It'll

2:08:23

be close. Good luck. You guys know what you're

2:08:25

fighting for. Apparently. You guys know. Second.

2:08:28

Joey was offered a 1.2 million contract.

2:08:31

Four-year contract going forward by the Nathan's hotdog

2:08:34

eating contest. So who knows what impossible's. Okay.

2:08:36

So that's like 200, 300,000 a year. He

2:08:39

got paid 200,000 last year and then got offered

2:08:41

a 1.24 year. We

2:08:44

just tried to call him. He did not answer. So we

2:08:46

tried to do some journalism. They're right there. So he said,

2:08:48

hey, is there enough time to figure this whole thing out?

2:08:50

So if they're offered them 300 and what? 1000

2:08:54

a year. I guess if that's a one

2:08:56

301.5 thousand a year for four years. So

2:09:02

that impossible thing has got to be what? Gotta

2:09:04

be. I sure. Possible and the

2:09:06

possible people want him to do this though,

2:09:08

right? They don't they don't want people being

2:09:11

pissed at them for taking Joey out of

2:09:13

the competition. If you pay for a professional

2:09:15

eater to represent your product, you would like

2:09:17

him to professional eat. I would assume at

2:09:19

all the events possible now. How

2:09:21

do they feel it must hurt their soul whenever

2:09:23

he's house and wings? Oh, yeah. And burgers. That's

2:09:26

what he's not. He's not vegan. Well,

2:09:29

maybe he might be turning. I don't

2:09:31

think so. I mean, I don't know. Maybe

2:09:33

Joey Josh chestnut is a vegan. That would

2:09:35

be yeah. It'd be a fucking real mind

2:09:37

exploder. It's kind of an easy

2:09:39

sell though. It could be like these are

2:09:41

so good. They're like the real thing, right? Who

2:09:44

for Joey Jaws for impossible. Well, yeah, that's

2:09:46

you're talking about their business plan. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

2:09:48

I guess they've been doing that with like

2:09:50

Burger King for sure. Yeah. The hayseed farmers. But

2:09:52

wait, this ain't real beef. Yeah, is an

2:09:54

impossible burger. Oh, yeah. The

2:09:57

blind taste. Yeah, exactly. Definitely. Definitely

2:09:59

real. Yeah. those are son

2:10:01

of a bitch those

2:10:04

aren't paid actors or anything you could tell it well at the

2:10:06

bottom they got to say paid actors yeah

2:10:09

yeah so they're not those

2:10:11

if they did catch cowboy with

2:10:13

a vegan burger being scored above

2:10:16

and Angus that

2:10:19

was on his that was on his farm yeah

2:10:21

oh yeah and they had it on tape that's

2:10:23

what I mean and they were gonna show everybody

2:10:25

that cowboy that cowboys have a long night yeah

2:10:27

I mean there's a lot of conversations happening with that

2:10:29

cowboy with that cowboy for sure I'm gonna be exposed

2:10:31

as a fraud everybody's gonna attack

2:10:34

me if they I mean whiskey being hammered and

2:10:36

those taste tests if they try to do a

2:10:38

blind one two on one of these guys and

2:10:40

tell them they're giving them like a whopper and

2:10:42

then giving an impossible one they tell them after

2:10:44

the fact that they're getting

2:10:46

the shit beat out like Buzz Aldrin yeah

2:10:49

exactly exactly like they're getting beaten to a

2:10:51

pulp that was fake

2:10:53

meat you just exactly what's that fuck you all

2:10:55

right son of a bitch yeah another thing

2:10:58

coming and they're probably killing that person beating them

2:11:00

to death they don't Texas

2:11:02

you see the fight in the airport yeah it's good one

2:11:09

sexy right entire post she was about

2:11:11

to throw a engine or whatever yeah

2:11:13

she was about to blast somebody what

2:11:15

she was yeah sexy red fresh off

2:11:17

an NXT breaking ground

2:11:19

appearance at UFC apex

2:11:21

in Vegas got caught up in a little bit

2:11:24

of a melee she's there at the bottom she's

2:11:26

there holding like a bazooka hurt so bad you

2:11:28

hit her well someone hit you with that her

2:11:30

getting pushed over and getting tripped and having that

2:11:32

thing fall on top of her obviously worst-case situation

2:11:34

as you're holding a metal object but she was

2:11:36

ready to get down and there's a lot of

2:11:39

people going what the fuck did I use this

2:11:41

door we need to use this door there's a

2:11:43

fight we can't use door airports

2:11:45

have been host to plenty of fights it

2:11:47

seems like and seemingly everybody's okay we're happy

2:11:49

to hear that we saw the one dude's

2:11:51

cheeks at the beginning this whole thing and

2:11:53

yep right there and we're

2:11:55

happy everybody's okay I like the wheelchair guy goes

2:11:57

I'm gonna fucking get out of here yep I'm

2:12:00

definitely gonna back up. I don't know if she was gonna throw

2:12:02

that or like stab somebody with it.

2:12:04

But whatever the case, she was ready. She was

2:12:06

certainly ready and thanks for

2:12:08

everybody reacting so quickly and saving lives.

2:12:10

Yeah, that one guy didn't have

2:12:13

his Crocs in great mode. He's got a travel pillow

2:12:15

on the ground. Someone's gonna pick that up and reuse

2:12:17

it. Oh absolutely. Just got kicked. Oh, all over it.

2:12:19

Yeah, a lot of boots on it. Got a lot

2:12:21

of shoes though. Broken in now though. Probably makes the

2:12:23

pillow more comfy. Maybe that's why they did it. Guy,

2:12:25

no chains broke. That's good. See, it

2:12:27

wasn't many hand to hand combat because that chain's getting

2:12:29

busted immediately. If there's somebody with

2:12:31

them. Where were they coming out of? Was that like

2:12:33

the little jet way? What was that? It

2:12:36

looked like maybe a private thing, right? Maybe a

2:12:38

little private. Oh, I think that. That

2:12:40

might be a big elevator. It says no use. Man,

2:12:44

I wish he threw that thing. Yeah, what was she

2:12:46

gonna throw? If you hit somebody in the forehead with

2:12:48

that and there was a clean shot. Was that somebody

2:12:50

on her team I don't know.

2:12:53

They were trying to hold it back at first. I feel like someone

2:12:55

grabbed it like a- In the gray. In the gray, go back

2:12:57

to the beginning there. Like

2:13:00

right when she- So, boom, she's

2:13:02

holding it. Gray here with dreads,

2:13:04

right? I think he's

2:13:07

on her team. Yeah. I think he's telling her

2:13:09

to kind of get out of the way maybe.

2:13:12

Here he comes. No, no, don't do this,

2:13:14

Sexy Ray. Jesus Christ, can't have that. Yeah, you're right,

2:13:16

right. Yeah, and he's going in. I'll do this instead.

2:13:18

Yeah. Hey, yeah, feels like a

2:13:20

good move. Hey, Gray, that was good. That

2:13:22

was a good move for the team. That was a good

2:13:25

move for the entire team. Hopefully everybody's okay. And hopefully Sexy

2:13:27

Red does not end up in jail. Let's

2:13:30

talk about Mark Messiaio and Charles Barkley,

2:13:32

$5,000. At last

2:13:34

night's game, Charles Barkley was just bouncing around,

2:13:36

sweet hopping. I mean, Charles

2:13:38

Barkley has gotten to the point in life where he can show up

2:13:41

at anything and do whatever he wants. Congrats

2:13:43

to Chuck. You got to earn that. Yes, he did. Everybody's

2:13:45

happy to see him. And everybody's happy to see him in

2:13:47

one set. Hey, come to our box. Yeah,

2:13:49

we've seen it in person. Like everyone wants to

2:13:52

see Chuck. Yeah, see it at the golf tournament. These

2:13:54

live events on TV, you actually see him

2:13:56

just walking sweet to sweet. Only human in

2:13:58

any arena in Vietnam. into every suite

2:14:01

that they have. And anytime he gets

2:14:03

on TV, he is electrifying.

2:14:05

Here's a Marc Messier, Charles Barkley story

2:14:07

from last night. Welcome

2:14:09

Marc Messier, BK Subban, and

2:14:11

the newest member of ESPN's NBA coverage,

2:14:14

no. Hey, Marc owes me $5,000. Are

2:14:18

we still doing this? I'm telling you, he

2:14:20

only $5,000, he's never paid me. That's what's

2:14:22

up. I took a delay of game. He

2:14:24

was thin court side in Canada. That's true.

2:14:26

And I hit the true story, and that's

2:14:29

the real. I need to go talk to the great

2:14:32

Marc Messier. He's like, Chuck, you're gonna get a delay

2:14:34

again. I don't care. It

2:14:36

was the first time I had been around in my life. He

2:14:39

was sitting on the front row, I said, I'll take

2:14:41

the fine. So Marc, you owe me $5,000. Feel

2:14:43

free. That was like 25 years ago. What

2:14:46

went golf for? You played with Wayne the other

2:14:48

day. I know. I heard all your golf

2:14:50

games. I wonder how expensive your haircut time

2:14:52

is. Yeah, I'm getting better. I played with

2:14:54

the great Jason Kelsey and Mike Quigley yesterday.

2:14:56

It was one of the best days of

2:14:58

my life. No,

2:15:00

Jason Kelsey just golfing with Charles. Yeah, I

2:15:02

mean, like he grabs Jason Kelsey. But also,

2:15:04

I like Chuck is so transparent, tells their

2:15:07

stories, pays his respect and his beloved. NHL

2:15:09

is growing too, AJ. Any type of thing

2:15:11

like this is good for the game. Chuck

2:15:14

is huge for hockey. I mean, when a guy

2:15:16

like that who wasn't always a big

2:15:18

hockey fan, like he talked when he talks about hockey, you

2:15:21

can see like how passionate it is, how much he cares

2:15:23

about the sport. Yeah, like when

2:15:25

you see Chuck, like anything he's doing, he seems

2:15:27

to be having a good time. So I think

2:15:29

he's going to attract people and they're going to

2:15:31

say, I might need to check that out whatever

2:15:33

he's talking about. He enjoys every moment. And I

2:15:36

think he was always a hockey fan because he

2:15:38

said 25 years ago, he saw the great Mark

2:15:40

Messier and said, I talked to this person. It's

2:15:42

the first time I've ever been around him. Just

2:15:44

not publicly. Hockey is in a spot now. Obviously,

2:15:46

we saw Shaq Hyman. Oh, yeah. You know, with

2:15:48

the TNT run because TNT hockey and TNT NBA.

2:15:51

Same studio or studios right next to each other.

2:15:53

It's like Charles Barkley talking about it. Shaq talking

2:15:55

about it. You get people from outside the hockey

2:15:57

world talking about hockey all of a sudden it's

2:15:59

going. through the roof in Miami is winning. It's

2:16:01

like hockey is a real opportunity here to expand

2:16:04

quickly, Deeba. It is, and playing some good hockey

2:16:06

too. Obviously, you know, Florida, sunrise, you know, a

2:16:08

lot of people say Miami, sunrise, Florida. Of course.

2:16:10

We will be, I won't jinx it, but it's

2:16:12

coming down there in South Florida. But Mark Messia

2:16:14

was one of those guys that even if you

2:16:16

didn't know hockey or follow hockey, like when the

2:16:18

first time he came on the show, when I

2:16:20

was on the lease, my big brother texted me,

2:16:23

oh, shit, you got Mark Messia? That was like

2:16:25

the Michael Jordan of hockey for us growing up.

2:16:27

So he was one of those guys that transcended

2:16:29

sports. That was a dope story to hear Chuck.

2:16:31

He had five grand too for a delay game.

2:16:33

That's not a nice ass. It's a real TBA.

2:16:36

Those NBA. We're not getting into it. We're

2:16:39

not getting into it. The NBA rush. I

2:16:43

don't think it's the NBA. Oh, yeah. We're

2:16:45

not talking about it. Let's get out of here. So we don't need

2:16:48

to do it. Just refs in general.

2:16:50

Yeah, you're right. Good pivot in general. They

2:16:52

all stay. TST refs had to be escorted

2:16:54

off by the police. Makes sense.

2:16:56

Oh, they did. Those were like some of

2:16:58

the top refs in the MLS. Like that's

2:17:00

absurd. What? No, Nick, that's

2:17:02

a rotten response. There's

2:17:06

no way that guy who I went off

2:17:08

on is a ref in the MLS. Grela

2:17:10

told me. Gumpea got two yellow cards. No

2:17:13

one yellow card probably should have got two. First

2:17:15

one definitely should have got one. Almost got a

2:17:17

red. Yeah, but then we came back summer saying,

2:17:19

you know, rally the boys. Yeah, drop can't drop

2:17:22

the gloves and fight out there, but you can

2:17:24

certainly chew out a ref or two. Yeah, Gumpea

2:17:26

gets a yellow card at halftime of

2:17:28

our not this one. This is

2:17:31

regular Rovers. There's no yellow card here that but he

2:17:33

should have and Tony Miola said he would go on

2:17:35

the record of saying he had no idea. Gumpea was

2:17:37

out there and Gumpea

2:17:39

said, oh, I said this and Tony said that

2:17:41

was you saying that you thought it was somebody

2:17:43

else and then the video is just classic halftime

2:17:45

not on air. Gumpea wasn't doing it for content.

2:17:48

No, no, no, Tony, Tony tried to stop me.

2:17:50

I said I got this one Tony. That was

2:17:52

Tony Miola in that. Yeah, it was Tony Miola.

2:17:54

Don't do what you think it was. What do

2:17:56

you mean? I just wasn't sure if that was

2:17:58

Tony or not. I thought it might

2:18:00

have been something. Hold on. Are

2:18:02

we sure? Are we sure? It's

2:18:05

clearly Tony. You pause it there. That

2:18:09

might be a mark. It is clearly

2:18:11

Tony, but it could be a brother of. It

2:18:16

could be a Tony Kaboli, if you

2:18:19

will. No, me. What is his name?

2:18:21

A cousin. A Miolan. Yeah,

2:18:23

maybe a cousin. Sure. Anyways.

2:18:25

Yeah. This is not right. It

2:18:28

has nothing to do with

2:18:31

anything aside from the fact, like you look

2:18:33

at their nose. He's going to fuck. Maybe

2:18:36

the greatest American soccer. Yeah. Well,

2:18:39

that's what I mean because he, you know, punished

2:18:41

younger brother Mark in the face to fuck up

2:18:44

his nose. But look at the ears. I mean

2:18:46

the hair. There are so many things when you

2:18:48

look at the teeth, you look at this photo.

2:18:51

There is just a little bit of

2:18:53

like, yeah, they could be kind of

2:18:56

speak in a similar cadence. Thank

2:18:58

you, Nick. I appreciate

2:19:01

that very much. It

2:19:03

is not a shot. It is just a statement of observation. Tony's

2:19:07

a handsome Italian American. So is Mark.

2:19:09

I don't know. I assume Mark is.

2:19:11

I believe he's Polish. Are

2:19:14

you just saying that maybe the greatest American soccer

2:19:16

goalie of all time? He's not better than Tim

2:19:18

Howard. Tim Howard had 15 saves against Belgium in

2:19:21

the second round. If

2:19:23

not for Tony Miolo, there might not be Tim

2:19:25

Howard. Have we ever seen the goalie in the

2:19:27

pipes? Tim Howard and Tony Miolo both from Jersey.

2:19:29

So I assume Tim Howard. If you asked him

2:19:31

about Tony Miolo, it would be a full line.

2:19:33

Yeah. But we're saying who's better. Well,

2:19:35

fucking Brad, who's on or are you just going to

2:19:38

act like he didn't have a good. He's on. Couldn't

2:19:41

hold me. Oh, why? Jesus

2:19:43

Christ. Guys legend. I

2:19:45

thank you. Miolo started the MLS.

2:19:48

I just started it. That's

2:19:51

going to help. Well, and he kicked in training camp

2:19:53

for the Jets. Didn't he? I think it was the

2:19:55

Giants. Maybe it was the Jets. Jets are the Giants.

2:19:57

I was a massive Tony Miolo fan, man. before

2:20:00

yeah, I got a chance to hear him tell stories

2:20:02

about the arena league he was playing in the arena

2:20:04

league as Basically just like a

2:20:06

hired gun for these places to sell out these arenas

2:20:09

and the amount of money He was making per game

2:20:11

in the arena league. It was only supposed to go

2:20:13

so long and then they're like Hey, you want to

2:20:15

extend this? He was like, uh, yeah, I'm playing in

2:20:17

the arena. The Nets half the size They're

2:20:20

packed out these arena business is good. They're

2:20:22

waiting on the MLS. I think to start

2:20:24

so like he hit He was at the

2:20:26

perfect time Legitimately

2:20:29

if every American team would have had a

2:20:32

Tony Miola from that point forward I think

2:20:34

soccer would be at a much higher

2:20:36

place because he went to work afterwards. They like put

2:20:38

him on a tour He was trying to really grow

2:20:40

the game. He was trying to be a guy and

2:20:44

Get him back on the sideline this week. It

2:20:46

was awesome. And what you were saying about him

2:20:48

on this particular day I just can't happen. I

2:20:50

think your guys's interpretation of my comment is much

2:20:52

different than my meaning Yeah,

2:20:55

well, I just think that Your

2:20:57

guy you guys are receiving my comparison

2:20:59

as if I am taking a shot at

2:21:02

Tony Oh, this happened to me last week.

2:21:04

Yeah, I'm more meant to be complimentary Exactly.

2:21:06

Tell me all it looks like markaboly. Who's

2:21:09

the one guy that every single time he

2:21:11

comes on. Everyone's like, let's fucking go Markable

2:21:15

I was gonna say damn you'll Tony Miola as

2:21:17

well. Oh, yeah, there's another great comparison tie Thank

2:21:19

you very much every time they both come on

2:21:21

everyone loves them And then sure if you just

2:21:24

give a quick little double take at those photos

2:21:26

It's like get brothers don't even have to think

2:21:28

about it and then you look back again Oh,

2:21:30

no, that's just two guys who love

2:21:33

life, you know, I love me all at the

2:21:36

94 World Cup I know what he used to

2:21:38

look like 30

2:21:46

years ago, they probably didn't look like you could

2:21:49

bully strutting his stuff around town in 1994. Yeah

2:21:53

Pink of the ring. All right. I think we're good.

2:21:55

Yeah after he was starting to tough man

2:21:57

I call the kaboy doing those tough man content We're

2:22:00

getting a boxing glove and you know and fight okay

2:22:02

this dude You want golden gloves and pits can we

2:22:04

go on with his hair down that goalie shirt sold?

2:22:08

I don't want to say millions But maybe for like

2:22:10

an entire generation you go to a soccer tournament and

2:22:12

every goalie would be wearing the same exact I think

2:22:14

there was a blue and green one that was available

2:22:17

as well, and you're all wearing it because Tying

2:22:20

me old what's that thing say no power

2:22:22

to drugs no to drugs. Yeah, no power

2:22:25

Wow is that a sponsorship? What is give

2:22:27

drugs power that seemed like a mission? I

2:22:29

like the Miola on the middle finger on

2:22:31

the right you make People

2:22:34

off because they'd be like who did that meal me

2:22:36

all Telling

2:22:40

me all Did

2:22:42

he get netted all let you guys take any shots

2:22:44

now he didn't he did not he

2:22:46

was miked up every time though and He

2:22:49

was delivering great mess like actual coaching messages

2:22:51

I don't know how many people were listening

2:22:54

all the time because he put in

2:22:56

some great plays And I don't know if

2:22:58

we ran any of them okay, well five. I'm Reno five

2:23:00

guys weren't well. We

2:23:02

know that for sure That's

2:23:07

good Tony a fuck off all right Let's do

2:23:09

this no Tony Tony had to reach those Tony

2:23:11

Rhett had to reach the whole team Tony had

2:23:13

to reach Like Premier League players

2:23:16

that play for ten years and

2:23:18

arena league bad boys You

2:23:20

know at the same time and he was able

2:23:22

to do it shout to Tony American soccer legend

2:23:25

Let's get the whistle for the Gonna

2:23:27

need to the US if they heard that

2:23:29

speech they would have fired Burr halter immediately

2:23:31

and gave him the job They're the one

2:23:33

immediately after the loss yes Yeah, the way

2:23:36

he handled that phenomenal phenomenal and then some

2:23:38

of his speeches before games You know like

2:23:40

the day after we had to fight maybe

2:23:42

you know which I? Don't

2:23:45

think any of us saw coming. I don't any of us

2:23:47

saw a fight coming out of nowhere But

2:23:49

I guess we should have I hindsight and

2:23:51

probably should have the speech to

2:23:53

Tony had to give the rally the boys back guys

2:23:56

a leader guy is a leader a

2:23:58

love soccer Tony me old love I'm happy to

2:24:00

see him back in the world. Hopefully, as

2:24:02

we got the Europe's coming up in Copa,

2:24:05

America and then the World Cup, we're going

2:24:07

to be talking more about the soccer. Gumby,

2:24:09

I'm excited about this. Yeah, very excited Friday,

2:24:11

Germany, Scotland and then England's

2:24:14

first game Sunday and Copa starts on the

2:24:16

20th. Okay, here we go. Olympics

2:24:18

too. Olympic soccer as well. Oh yeah, I

2:24:20

forgot about Olympic soccer. Is there

2:24:23

any. We're going to win. Did they leave anybody off

2:24:25

the roster? That's like really good.

2:24:27

Best young player. Yeah. I have

2:24:29

that rule. Too many fans. They said can't

2:24:31

put that person on the roster. Was

2:24:34

that what the soccer team? Yeah. I

2:24:37

don't know. It could have happened with another team

2:24:39

too, but I know that's what happened. Messy. Oh,

2:24:41

that's why messy is not on America's there. Too

2:24:43

many fans. Not enough playing time. Not with this

2:24:45

team. It's why the MLS is so upset messy

2:24:47

game because there's too many fans though. Yeah,

2:24:50

I don't want eyes on you. They're writing too much

2:24:52

money. Yeah. That's why everyone in the league's found

2:24:55

them really hard. Yeah.

2:24:58

No point. Don't do it. No point to.

2:25:01

Don't do it. The universe

2:25:03

told you twice. You're a fucking idiot.

2:25:05

Don't do it. How am I

2:25:07

the idiot in this situation? It's just

2:25:09

as it's unfolded. I don't know.

2:25:12

That's that's a real reflective moment for yourself. You

2:25:15

know, when you look at what's happening

2:25:17

and everything being said and

2:25:20

you're the dumbest one, allegedly, that's phenomenal. I

2:25:23

don't know how that whole thing happens. Hey, but that's

2:25:25

on me and we're going to continue to get better.

2:25:29

So many dumb fucking things are being said about

2:25:31

that. I can't. I just can't one thing after

2:25:33

another every day. It gets dumber.

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