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Hello beautiful people and welcome

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Thunderdome on this there's brand

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new NBA champs Tuesday June 18 2024

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this program starts right now Sport

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are absolutely wonderful sports are great

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and there is a brand new

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NBA champion that has been crowned

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Last night in the storylines are obviously in

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abundance And we'll be talking about all of

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them as big windy who has been on

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TV for the last four hours on ESPN

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We'll stop by in about 10 minutes to

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break down the dominance that was this particular

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Boston Celtics team who are your new Champions

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and now they hang their 18th banner

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Which is the most in the history

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of the NBA and all of Boston

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was excited and upside down Jalen Brown

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wins the MVP even though Tatum

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led the Boston Celtics in the

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final series in points assists and

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rebounds Brown gets the MVP Missoula

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is the youngest coach to win

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since 1969

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Tatum gets a title at the age

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of 26, which is the same age

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Yannis was when he won his first

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title and younger than basically every other

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legend to ever win their first title

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It was a beautiful night for the

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people that celebrate the Celtics in you

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know, obviously this one to a game five

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But the writing it seemed to be on

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the wall and one half of the toxic

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table is here at Ty Schmidt It's good

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to see you time good to see you

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as well. Yeah, I feel like we all

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understand what's coming right down the pipe here

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I think so in a matter of moments

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nine year NFL vet sitting in big tone

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digs his seed who is with his daughter

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right now Yeah, good, buddy. I had to

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be daddy day care little weight what

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tone we miss you, but yeah, we love

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him Dary's Jade Butler's Debuts,

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you know the world is gonna want to see

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how this human Responds to

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what took place last night Without

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further ado ladies and gentlemen the other half

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of the toxic table a man who has

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had to wait five long

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years. I know. Wow. Second

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longest championship drought in Boston

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history. To celebrate

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another championship, ladies and gentlemen, Boston.

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Oh my god. Boston

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Connor. Yeah. Yeah,

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that was Bailey McCombs

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taking some

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shrapnel there. If

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he was getting yelled at. Man,

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we do that again. We've

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done it three times already. We do

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it one more time. But now it's

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actually official. The Boston Celtics have won.

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Wow. The NBA championship. Congratulations, Connor. Thank

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you, man. Wow. What a ride. What

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a journey it's been, man. Honestly, I

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can't think the fans enough, the team,

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the coaches, top to bottom. Brad Stevens

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and Danny Ainge, please, of course. I

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mean, I'd be remiss not to

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mention him. And, you know, I want to

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also thank all the haters on the way.

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Who? There's no haters. D-Butt as soon as

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the Pacers lost. Excuse me,

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got swept by the Celtics. As soon as they got

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swept. D-Butt text me,

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hey, Mavs and six, bitch. I was

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like, brother. Okay. I didn't think that's

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how this was going to go. Not a lot of people

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are picking the Mavs. Well, that's funny enough. 89%

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of the bets on the series prices with

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Jalen Brown, my teammate, my brother

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in arms, reminded everybody when he posted on. as

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IG that you know actually most people bet

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on the Dallas Mavericks to win but that's okay

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you know cuz it's been like that yeah but

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sports personnel is on TV nobody yeah unfortunately

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they did all took

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the Dallas Mavericks I'm not gonna list any

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names of course not but I will say

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Molly from first take she had the Celtics

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because she knows basketball baby and that and that's

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just kind of the difference is that the people

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who knew ball the people who kind

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of go to bed at night knowing like yeah

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I basketball yeah that's my

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shit they knew the Celtics were gonna win

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this title and you know at the end

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of the day the doubters are what drives

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baby you know the whole year the boys

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in the locker room and in the team

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and Joe always you know Joe coach I

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call him Joe just because we're because we're

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boys but coach West Virginia left coach of

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course of course you see you know yeah

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you know Joe you know Joe I know

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coach coach you yeah thanks

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Joe but Joe always reminds all year

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you know nothing except

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for winning that last game of the season and you

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know we did in dominant fashion I

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mean the whole entire league they suck

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it was fun to watching ESPN kind

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of kind of roll out the whole

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entire league they do they do don't

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they I mean what what

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half the league if you combine all their

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titles they got like a quarter of what

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the Boston Southeast got but it was fun

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when ESPN rolled out you know Josh Hart

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and Paul George and Julius Randall and

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Joel and B and all these guys

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are just bitchin and moaning and crying

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about being hurt and sure they

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were did did Joe Missoula go into all these guys's

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you know locker rooms and break their legs is that

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why they were hurt that's on you heart because that

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because that's how it felt and you

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know at the end of the day circumstances

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are circumstances you know I think some people

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on TV might have wanted the Celtics to

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just lose on purpose because they're playing teams

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that didn't have you know that weren't full

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strength if you will and you know then

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when we finally got to the finals we

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obviously the team when we finally got there

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you know it was a Mavericks the funds

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over shows over Boston. You know, you guys

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haven't been tested all year. By the time you

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guys turn around and wake up, it's going to

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be three, one mass. It's going to be too

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late for the Boston Celtics to win. And you

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know, that just as we see wasn't true. I

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mean, the Boston Celtics is one of the most

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dominant teams in the history of the league. And

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maybe that's not true. I think it is, you

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know, I believe they're the fifth team since

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2000 to win 80 games

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in the season. You know, some of those teams,

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did you know some of the teams that won

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80 games? What I mean, the Lakers and Shaq

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and Kobe historic, the Heedles, we talk

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about them all the time. I

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was back with Miami, you know, the Warriors,

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of course, kind of the dynasty

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of the last 15 years. And of course,

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the 2008 Celtics. And, you

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know, this year really was capped off by

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by greatness. And I and I hope, you

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know, all those people I saluted when I

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walked in the six to

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seven, eight, nine, 10 Celtics fans in here, I

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believe after last night, I hope they realize what

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they witnessed. I don't think we're going to see

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something like that for a very long time until

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the Celtics do it again next year. And

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then probably the year after that, we'll see what

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happens. But yeah, to be completely honest, I could

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not be happier. Yesterday was one of the happiest

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days of my entire life of my entire existence.

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You were nervous yesterday, wasn't he? Of course. Oh,

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yeah. Well, you can feel the anxiety. Oh, yeah.

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Of course, I was nervous. But you know, if

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I wasn't nervous, I want to be ready. If

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I wasn't nervous, I want to care as much

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as I earn the nerve. Bingo. You know

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what I'm saying? And pressure makes diamonds. And

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that's what the Celtics got. Baby, they're getting

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diamonds going forward. We're going to get another

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one next year. And the year after that,

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Missoula's already got some, you know, places in

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the rafters where he sees some blank spots.

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I get to put on some at three

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twenty. I'm walking around. Yeah. Still looking

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for new ones. Yeah. And I'm sure he's

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thinking to man, that was

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fun. But you know, it's even more fun back

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to back. You know, it's even

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more fun after that. I back to back Yeah,

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I don't think that this is

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the end at all. And you

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mentioned that Jason Tatum did not win the

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finals MVP. That's just another reason to go.

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It's tough to feel any empathy at all,

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because all these sons of bitches seemingly do

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is have parades. That's literally all they do.

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It's just parade, parade, parade. For what? We'll

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do a baseball one this year. Why not? Okay,

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I'm like, well, obviously it's Patriots, so it's every other

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year. We got to have one for them. And then,

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oh yeah, well, we'll do a basketball one as well.

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That's fine. We'll do a basketball one. And then why

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not just toss it to Bruins one time? Yeah. Yeah.

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It's a wild place, a lot of winning, and

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congrats to the Celtics seemingly kicking off

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what is about to be a few-year

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run here because everybody's returning basically. Yeah.

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Everybody's still in a contract. To tell us more about

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that and other storylines we need to be keeping our

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eye on, ladies and gentlemen, a man who's

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been on television for five and a half hours already

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today, and we can't thank him enough for showing up,

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Big Wendy, Brian Winger. Hey, Wendy! Connor,

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how'd you get your hands on that trophy so

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fast? That was very impressive. I mean, look, Wendy,

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you know, every player gets a day with the

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trophy, and I just took mine right off the top. They

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said, true leader, you know. Bingo. Everyone's wondering

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about Brian, Tatum, Al Horford. They were like,

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let's make sure that Boston Connor gets the first

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day with the trophy. I said, you're damn right.

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Thanks, Joe. I appreciate it again.

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When did we get that? Because

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I'm looking at it and the ball's not really

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robbed. Yeah, and they actually changed the trophy. It's

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a different now. I think this thing's like four

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years old. That was three years ago. Three years.

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Anyways, Wendy, you were there last night. Took

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the first plane you could to New York so you could

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do TV to let us all

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know about everything all day. We appreciate your work. Yeah, Wendy. I

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had the most amazing travel morning of

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my life. I'll

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never have a better travel, amazing day than I had

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today. I couldn't

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believe the set of circumstances that fell into

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place that enabled me to get here

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for this show. It's at eight in the morning,

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and I really didn't need it. Like, if I didn't

11:48

make it eight o'clock, I like wanted to save that karma for a time

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when I need that. I don't. I

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need it when I'm in a traffic jam trying to make

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a flight home. So what happened? What happened? We got gates

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that stayed open for you. Were you a little bit late?

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The track the flight time between Logan

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and LaGuardia this morning was 39 minutes.

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I don't know how that happened 39 minutes.

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I get off the I get down to the

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baggage plane the bag is waiting there and

12:15

then I get the greatest taxi driver in the

12:17

history of New York City. I used to live

12:19

here. Wow. I've had a hundred and two hundred

12:21

five hundred taxi rides here. It was the greatest

12:23

taxi driver I've ever seen. He had me from

12:26

the airport to the studio in like half

12:29

the time it usually takes. I had

12:31

time to relax. I could have had a

12:33

Danish if they had Danish here. If

12:36

they had a green room that was

12:38

properly equipped for a celebratory celebration you

12:40

could have housed it all because they how

12:42

quickly you got to the taxi drive shout

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out to you waking up public transportation doesn't

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get a lot of credit. No it doesn't.

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I mean get a lot of credit ever

12:51

so I'm happy that we're bringing that on

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this celebratory Tuesday after Celtics win their 18th

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banner and obviously Connor and everybody that are

12:57

Boston Celtics fans are waving it in the face

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of everybody for not talking about them all year and

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then whenever they finally get in the playoffs well it's

13:04

not real because the players are hurt and then everybody

13:06

the weather West is going to conquer the East because

13:08

of how tough it is and then here they are

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standing as champions in dominant fashion

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and Wendy I think the big story here

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for me is as we all just look

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ahead which is seemingly well they're all coming

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back to right I mean Wendy everybody seemingly

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in a good spot Brown wins the MVP

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over Tatum even though Tatum leads the team

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in points assists and rebounds he becomes the

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first player in NBA history to lead

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his team in those three stats and not win the

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MVP if the team would go on to win but

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everybody's happy everybody's back and this is just what the

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Celtics are now for the next few years Wendy is

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that an accurate take on it? Definitely

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for next year they're all coming back and look

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in the next week or two Jason

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Tatum is gonna sign a 315

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million dollar extension that's gonna lock

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him in alongside Jalen

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Brown like they may have

13:54

to adjust though some of those role players

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but Brown and Tatum are

13:59

locked in Holiday is locked in

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and they're gonna lock in Derek White is my

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assumption over the summer. We'll see about

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the rest, but they're definitely gonna come back next year.

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By the way, I was talking to

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Jason Tatum's agent last night and they

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were joking with the Celtics because under the

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new rules this year, you

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are allowed to start negotiating with

14:19

your clients, with your own

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free agents now. You know, used to be

14:24

you had to wait till June 30th, you

14:26

can actually negotiate with your own clients or

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your own free agents. So in

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theory, Jason Tatum could sign that extension

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today and the agent

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was joking with the Celtics executive,

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hey, just bring that contract over

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right to the post-game locker room, we'll sign it,

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we're ready to go. And they were like, yeah,

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it might be a day or two before we

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get that, but that contract is coming. So Jason

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Tatum, by the way, when I saw in

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the locker room last night in the Celtics locker

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room, they had written on their whiteboard,

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Flight to Miami at noon. I

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thought they were joking. No,

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Connor, you know when the parade is? The

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parade's on Friday. Yeah, strictly because they wanna

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go to Miami. And that is a callback

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to Miami, right? Saying flight to Miami at

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noon, whenever they were thinking that they were

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gonna extend the series, right? Is that all

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this is? You know what, you may be

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more, I didn't, I don't know that I

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had one- That's what Connor- Oh yeah. That's what Connor-

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Connor, you made me right, man. All I know is

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they apparently, I don't know for sure, but they were

15:24

saying they're gonna fly down to Miami. Wait

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for the social media content. If that's truly

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what happens, wait for the social media content

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for the next few days while those dudes

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are partying in Miami. And the

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city was good last night. But by the way, by

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the time I left at four in the morning, the

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trash had been cleaned up. I

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didn't see anything. I didn't hear about anything.

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You know, everybody- City champions. They

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know how to do it. City champions. But

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Friday night, it might be a

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little wild. It might be a little wild

15:53

on Friday up in Boston. But

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they're gonna party, I think, the

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next few days in Miami. which is, you

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know, that's a pretty boss move. Obviously the

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sports media, it is a very boss move.

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Just a fly to Miami. No, some teams

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go to Vegas, but Vegas is like a

16:09

five hour flight from Boston, I assume. Miami

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still very far down there from Boston, I

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couldn't even imagine, so still a trip. But

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I like that the team's getting away. There

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is the dry erase board from the Celtics

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locker room last night, noon flight to Miami.

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And Connor, you said that Miami, he had

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this on their dry erase board when they

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thought they were going to extend the series

16:28

noon flight back to Miami or something. Yeah,

16:30

Bingo. In the first round of the series

16:32

when they won in five on during game

16:34

five that was written by either

16:36

a spoiler or someone in the Miami team on their whiteboard. OK,

16:38

so this could be an answer to that and then following through

16:40

on it's awesome. Or they just want to go party in Miami

16:43

when they were down there because they weren't able to do anything.

16:45

They saw people go into the elbow room and they said, wait

16:47

a minute, welcome. We can't go to the elbow room. But also

16:49

the sports media obviously has told this story like 1000 times. You

16:52

know what's happening tonight in South Florida, Wendy? No

16:56

clue. Wow. OK, Florida Panthers Game 5. Oh

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yes. So I didn't know

17:01

that game was there. Yes. Kachuk right.

17:03

Obviously with Tatum their middle. If the

17:05

Celtics roll into the Sunrise

17:08

Florida Panthers game tonight with that

17:10

throw and then Kachuk wins Lourdo

17:13

tonight and then all of a sudden you got a

17:15

Florida Panthers Boston Celtics celebration

17:17

in South Florida. I

17:20

mean, there's a chance that that's happening.

17:22

Have Larry and Stanley ever been side

17:24

by side freshly won? This is potentially

17:27

like yeah. Will Chamberlain holding 100 photo?

17:29

Yeah, but real. This is potentially unbelievable.

17:31

Yeah, well, we don't know if that's real,

17:34

but when Lourdo starts dancing, things get wild.

17:36

I couldn't even imagine what Larry gets up

17:38

to could be a magical night in South.

17:41

That's the only one we don't have in South

17:43

Florida to my. Obviously the Dolphins got a Super

17:45

Bowl. He got a couple championships. Far as majors

17:48

Marlins got a couple world titles for major sports.

17:50

That's the last one. Elbow rooms going to be

17:52

upside down. Yeah, I burned out. Southics are going

17:54

to be there and the Panthers just fresh

17:56

off of this and I was

17:58

living in Miami. 2011

18:01

when the Mavericks won that finals

18:04

and their party that they had at Live

18:07

that night, which was the hot I don't know if

18:09

it's still open but at the time it was the

18:11

place to go down the fountain blue I think

18:14

mark Cuban there's some story about like

18:16

mark Cuban's platinum card like Even

18:19

got they spent so much money that his car got

18:21

declined at some point that night Because

18:23

they'd spent so much money So yeah, the

18:26

parties in Miami after championships could be wild

18:28

and what if it's a co-party? That's

18:31

what I'm saying. There's a chance that this could happen Don't

18:33

play stupid here windy. You know is

18:36

live on Sunday King of diamonds Monday

18:38

Swagger so dumb call it Kelly Bundy that

18:41

you knew that you knew that Wendy, which

18:43

is why we appreciate it What are some

18:45

other storylines maybe that came out of last

18:47

night that? We're not talking about or we

18:49

need to keep in mind as we head into

18:52

the offseason here about the Celtics team And

18:54

maps team I guess and the maps team as well First

18:57

off Peyton Pritchard had an

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iconic Boston moment Iconic

19:02

Boston. Oh, I don't know if I've ever I've been

19:04

in that arena For huge

19:06

playoff games for the last 10 15 years Peyton

19:10

Pritchard hitting this shot by the way, he might have traveled

19:13

Oh, but also Luke I think fouled them. I think Luca

19:15

fouled and she should have been a four-point play I

19:18

don't know if I've ever heard a bigger explosion That

19:21

was peak Boston Peyton

19:23

Pritchard in that shot was peak Boston and

19:25

also pretty much guaranteed look this game is

19:27

over It's just a matter about celebrating the

19:29

second half So that's

19:31

one memory always have the reaction in that arena to

19:33

that shot because everybody knew he was getting it They

19:35

just put him in the game. You guys just said

19:37

they just put him in the game So

19:39

the reactions in the crowd like looking

19:42

around the crowd and the way

19:44

people were celebrating with each other After

19:46

I hit that you got you got some of that there.

19:48

It's why look at them They were

19:50

loving it was amazing. So that moment always

19:53

remember secondly Jalen

19:55

or I mean Jason holding up deuce

19:58

Tatum in the air there's

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some photos from that that are

20:03

I mean, if Jason doesn't have

20:06

a, he doesn't have that photo, that's still

20:08

five feet by seven feet on his wall.

20:11

For the rest of his life. I

20:13

mean, what an amazing photo that is,

20:15

especially since deuce has, you know, the

20:17

Boston fans have basically seen deuce grow

20:19

up in deuce is three days older,

20:22

are three days younger than

20:24

my son Dane. And I've talked

20:26

with Jason, we have we have sons, Jason and I

20:28

are separated by 25 years

20:30

in age, we have sons the same age,

20:32

basically. And, and

20:34

so like we've talked over the years about hey,

20:36

what's your son do we know what you know,

20:38

they're both really into sports, and they both like

20:40

the same stuff. And so just

20:42

for me, like seeing that, like, that's an

20:45

iconic moment, deuce coming up to Jason, hugging

20:47

him, Jason looking over and realizing that deuce

20:49

was there. And then turning around to holding

20:52

them up. Again, just an

20:54

iconic moment in Jason Tatum's life. But

20:56

that's a that's that right there, that

20:58

photo. That's what you want. You want

21:00

this identifying photo. And it's

21:02

so symbolic, because it's Tatum, you

21:05

know, delivering on the promise of that he's always

21:07

been and, you know, he had

21:09

a he had a because the

21:12

game itself wasn't a great

21:14

game. His 31

21:16

11 and eight probably doesn't go down as

21:19

like a historic performance, but it was

21:21

awesome. He delivered a great game. People

21:23

had said that he didn't have sort

21:26

of a signature finals game where there

21:28

was. And not only that, yeah,

21:30

he didn't shoot the outside shot. Well, well,

21:32

what happens when Tatum has been criticized in

21:35

his Chris because he settles for that outside

21:37

shot, he didn't do that. He went to

21:39

that rim. He was the player that everybody

21:41

wanted. And the other thing

21:44

I'm gonna remember is the genuine

21:46

suspense in the crowd when they

21:48

announced the MVP. Like people

21:50

did not know normally you that you know,

21:52

the guy knows and he sort of sort

21:54

of they usher him right next to I

21:57

don't know how many people on that stage knew

21:59

I don't It might have only been Adam Silver

22:01

who knew and like genuinely there was some surprise

22:03

and there was a boo or two I'm not

22:05

gonna lie. There was a boo or two from

22:07

some Tatum fans. I don't think it was anti

22:10

Jalen Who votes for that?

22:12

So so did you vote who all votes for

22:14

that? Cuz I think I saw a list of

22:16

the votes in Tatum obviously got some it was

22:18

a split decision You know, they went to the

22:20

judge's court guards It was a split

22:22

decision in all of that but that's

22:24

all very public and that's happening in real time Like how

22:26

do they calculate that somebody goes on an app? What is

22:28

the deal? Yeah, so basically

22:30

there's 11 voters. I was not a voter.

22:33

I've actually never voted for finals MVP I

22:35

did vote for Eastern or for Western Conference

22:37

Finals MVP this year 11 voters,

22:39

you know Need

22:41

six votes to win. He got

22:43

seven Jalen Brown got seven

22:47

It's been close like this before the last time I

22:49

remember I don't have a complete history was When

22:52

Andrei Wodala got seven votes in 2015.

22:54

I think LeBron got four on the losing

22:56

team something like that So

23:00

The these 11 votes there you

23:02

have it. These are all national and local media.

23:04

That's that's from what that's from 2015 Yeah,

23:07

that's the Egla Dalla LeBron James thing But like yeah,

23:09

how do they vote that because how they got to

23:11

get that pretty quick text school text

23:13

message Yep to Adam Silver To

23:16

Adam Silver. Yes, we're all texting him our

23:18

postgame food order And Yeah,

23:23

so no to the to the league but um,

23:26

you know, what would have been perfect because

23:28

I actually think Drew Holliday deserves

23:30

special mention Would

23:33

have been perfect and this happens kind of fast like it's sort

23:35

of at the end of the game What

23:39

would have been perfect is if they both got five and

23:41

drew Holliday got one because that way they

23:43

could have actually split the award I've never

23:45

been a split as far as I know

23:48

they they both kind of were deserving But

23:50

I also think Drew Holliday deserved something but

23:52

look There was no wrong

23:54

answer here and the fact that there was

23:57

suspense actually is more of an ode to

23:59

the Celtics Absolutely and how great their team

24:01

was, and that you could honestly say that

24:03

multiple people deserve finals MVP. So I

24:06

was thinking about it as I was flying home from Corpus

24:08

Christi, which is beautiful town, so far

24:10

away from Indiana, so far away last night. I

24:13

was on a plane, it wasn't like the Logan

24:15

2 LaGuardia flight that you had,

24:17

but as I was looking at the photos

24:19

that were popping on the conversations that were

24:21

taking place, there was a photo of Tatum

24:23

holding the Larry and then Brown

24:25

holding the MVP. And it was just them in

24:27

the photo shoot. And it was like, at that

24:29

moment, I wonder if Tatum looks down and just

24:31

thinks to him, if there's any negative

24:34

feeling about anything, I wonder if it's in that

24:36

moment or if they just continue to move forward.

24:39

I'm not driving a wedge in between anybody, but

24:41

there are certainly legacies and conversations and dreams and

24:43

hopes, especially with all the photos that there are

24:45

from Kobe and MJ and it's like, there's so

24:47

much at play there and you just won a

24:50

championship. So I hate that my mind even thought

24:52

about that, but gonna have to win another one,

24:54

I guess. That's how it all goes. Connor's got

24:56

a question for you, Wendy. Yeah, Wendy, obviously

24:59

the contracts with the players are one thing,

25:01

but also Joe Missoula. Are we thinking that

25:03

he's gonna sign like a lifetime highest paid

25:05

coach in the NBA type deal or what's

25:08

kind of the next step with his contract?

25:10

Cause I assume they want to lock him

25:12

down for at least the next 10 years.

25:15

They gave him a long-term deal at the start

25:17

of the season, basically said, you're our coach now,

25:20

whether or not the Celtics wanna change that, those

25:22

terms, you know, that's up to them, but he

25:24

is locked down to a long-term contract. So that's

25:27

not a concern. Although I will say this

25:29

was a victory for Joe Missoula too. I

25:31

mean, really, this was a crowning moment. They've

25:34

been building towards this for a decade, really.

25:37

And so it was a crowning moment for Brad Stevens.

25:39

I know Brad was like, he was like trying to

25:41

hide on the stage. He didn't want anybody to give

25:43

him notice. He was like hiding behind the tall guys

25:45

in the back of the stage, but it's

25:47

a crowning moment for Brad Stevens, a crowning

25:49

moment for Missoula. They basically played like his

25:52

blueprint in this series, which is shoot

25:54

a ton of threes. I think they

25:56

made 22 more threes than the Mavericks,

25:59

which is... pretty much

26:01

unrecoverable just using math. I

26:03

think they had 16 more blocks in

26:07

the series that you know, so so shoot

26:09

them more threes defend the paint. Don't

26:12

turn the ball over. They had the one high turnover game

26:14

in game four. But

26:16

this was Missoula ball to a tee they have said

26:18

had the talent to do it but Missoula ball to

26:20

the tee and he deserves a lot of credit to

26:22

and he is going to be a coach of the

26:25

NBA for a long time. Boston or somewhere else. Okay,

26:27

love Joe Missoula. He'll be in Boston. Obviously, he'll stay

26:29

there or he's going to come back to West Virginia

26:31

West Virginia legend to your point about those stats got

26:33

him from HEMBO here plus 22 and three in the

26:35

oh yeah weapon got hit in the face

26:39

with the basketball yesterday. He did absolute weapon

26:42

though plus 22 in three pointers

26:44

in which is third in

26:46

finals history as a deficit plus 16

26:48

in blocks in which is

26:51

tied for six and they're plus 37

26:53

in assists over as

26:55

you take a call maybe from HEMBO

26:57

or Adam Silver and this entire thing.

26:59

Let's pivot away from the Celtics as

27:01

you continue your marathon of television

27:04

here. Let's talk about that other team. Go

27:06

ahead, debug. Yeah, Wendy. Obviously, they're on the

27:08

wrong side of it right now and you

27:10

know you you you coach coach Wendy you

27:12

rip Luca new and a few nights ago

27:14

live on TV. What's next? Uh for

27:16

you? Hey, you started an entire you

27:18

did a sit down interview. Oh yeah,

27:20

there was like a full I mean

27:22

you started. Yeah, but Wendy did. Oh,

27:25

yeah. Coach. I got I apparently got

27:27

destroyed in the Slovenian media. Oh, hey,

27:30

been there. Done that. That's gonna

27:33

happen over there. I mean, I think they're a little bit more

27:35

serious. If I were you, I would stay

27:37

away. Yeah. From that particular country for a

27:39

while. The prime minister was at the next

27:42

game and you know, I was just

27:44

keeping a wide berth from the secret Slovenian secret

27:46

service just to Okay.

27:52

Yeah, what's next for Jason kid

27:54

Luke and Kyrie and over here with

27:57

Dallas. Yeah. So look, they've got

27:59

a very good team, he

40:00

wanted to be kind of overpaid. And

40:02

he took like a free agent tour.

40:05

And I remember Steve Kerr telling the story

40:07

that when the Warriors actually went in to

40:10

meet with him in this boardroom that it

40:12

would dollar had left like knick knacks and

40:15

pamphlets and brochures from other teams, like

40:17

as hey, just so you know, this

40:19

isn't my first meeting. And

40:21

it would dollar did that acted like

40:23

he was going to go to the the rockets

40:26

who were their arch nemesis at the time. And

40:28

at the end of the day, he got re signed and he

40:30

was sort of at the same stage of his career as clay

40:33

is. So I agree, it

40:35

doesn't look good. But I would also

40:37

say don't misjudge a negotiation for you

40:39

know, you know, a statement of a

40:42

finale. Okay, well, I hope that's the

40:44

case because splash brothers were

40:46

awesome to watch here for a while. Yeah,

40:48

fun. And then obviously the whole conversation was

40:50

clay can't hold up his end of the

40:52

bar. That's seemingly what the media started saying,

40:55

while Steph continued to make shots in clay

40:57

seemingly didn't know I think there was injuries

40:59

that happened major, which is always a part

41:01

of the entire grand conversation. But it's like,

41:03

I hope clay Thompson and we as a

41:06

sports world, don't forget that like a quite

41:08

you were a massive piece of your massive

41:11

piece that whole thing. And like

41:13

the reason why the Golden State Warriors are

41:15

such a nationally recognized brand at this particular time

41:17

is because of something that you helped build over

41:20

there. The future though weird, like let's say

41:22

clay isn't there. And then you talk about how

41:24

great the West is Steph Curry still at

41:26

the right Steph Curry's one of

41:28

the biggest stars in basketball still or Yeah,

41:32

for sure. He's still a top. I haven't played basketball

41:34

a long time. I was gonna play. And that's what

41:36

the playoffs are. Think thing. The interesting

41:38

thing that they got going on is they've got

41:40

Chris Paul. Chris Paul has a

41:43

non guaranteed contract for 30. I think

41:45

it's $30 million. He

41:47

is no longer a $30 million player

41:49

you would you would assume that if

41:52

Chris Paul you

41:55

know, if clay was resigned that they would actually that

41:57

doesn't even really matter with clay that they would sort

41:59

of release him from his contracts because they don't want

42:01

to pay him $30 million. But

42:04

one option that they have is

42:06

if Clay were to make it seem

42:08

like he was going to leave, they could

42:10

trade Chris Paul with a

42:12

draft picker or a young player or two.

42:15

And that contract becomes like a piece

42:17

that you use in a trade. So that's

42:19

something that, you know, that they can sort of

42:21

maneuver and say, okay, well, if Clay, if you

42:24

want to walk, we can always use

42:26

this Chris Paul deal as a,

42:28

as a trade. And I'm not saying

42:30

that's what they're doing, but the Warriors

42:32

have maneuverability there, you know, it's

42:34

not just being left high and dry. And they also

42:37

have young players, you know, the guy

42:39

they drafted last year, Brandon Pajemski was

42:41

a very effective playing alongside Steph

42:44

Moses Moody, their top 10 pick from a couple

42:46

years ago, just had his best season. Jonathan

42:49

Kominga just had a good year. I,

42:52

if I had to wager, I would

42:55

say that they figure something out with Clay. Although

42:57

I admit right now, it's probably not in the

42:59

best place. Okay. And then you think about, and

43:01

we're pulling for all parties. Everybody

43:04

gets rich and we have everybody plays

43:06

good basketball. Love watches. Steph

43:09

was missed this playoff run personally,

43:11

somebody that enjoys watching Steph

43:13

play basketball. I missed watching him do his thing.

43:15

Let's stay in the West though. Obviously you know

43:17

everything about this story because he's a coworker of

43:19

yours and you've been traveling around the country with

43:21

him for the last month and a half and

43:23

there were some other names that got mentioned. JJ

43:25

Reddick is going to be announced as the Lakers

43:28

head coach. That's happening. What that's happening soon. Well,

43:30

it seems are, you know,

43:32

I'll hedge and say that things are pointed

43:34

in that direction and Jay

43:36

will this morning. Jay will, fellow

43:39

Duke. So

43:41

when JJ's again, good luck to him. We're hoping that he

43:43

has a, he's got an entire thing. Is that he said,

43:46

Oh, and for your face, he

43:48

said it in your face this morning. I

43:50

know. I was kind of surprised. I was

43:52

like, wow. Okay. I didn't know that. We're

43:55

saying I think it's headed

43:57

in that direction. I would say

43:59

that. the Lakers have a lot

44:01

of really big decisions to make in the next

44:03

three, four weeks and head coach is just one

44:05

of them. They've got to

44:07

work on this roster and there's a couple of things

44:10

that are going to be they've got big decisions

44:12

on specifically if the

44:14

Angelo Russell outside of his contract. So

44:18

the Lakers have a really big month

44:20

here and they just got passed by

44:22

the by the Celtics in titles. Oh,

44:24

no, I'm gonna

44:26

suck it. Geez, I would

44:29

normally say it doesn't matter. But when

44:31

I talk to people from those two

44:33

organizations, that stuff really, really great on

44:35

them. Both teams were

44:38

like actively had, you know, battle

44:41

cries within their organizations to get better

44:43

18. And

44:45

so the Lakers got their first are the club, the

44:48

Celtics got their first and so look,

44:51

you they can't have an average summer. They,

44:53

you know, they need to upgrade this

44:56

roster. And so, yeah, obviously, coach is

44:58

really important. And if it is indeed

45:00

JJ, he will be

45:03

a lot expected of him because of

45:06

how intelligent he is and because of what he's

45:08

talked about in that podcast. But it's

45:10

not it can't just be, you know, hiring JJ

45:12

alone, they got a they got to fill some

45:14

holes in that roster. Got a wheel and deal

45:16

a little bit wheel and deal. Well,

45:18

congrats to JJ. Sounds like it. We'll talk

45:21

to all Sean Sharani in X hour. And

45:23

I assume he'll have a little bit more.

45:25

But J will seemingly J

45:27

will this morning just kind of said quiet part

45:29

out loud matter. We

45:31

all seen it. We all see you were

45:33

there. We all heard it. But it's kind

45:36

of been the convo for the last, I

45:38

think since like May 24th, almost in some

45:40

circles. And then in other places, maybe go

45:42

in other places. Now, talk about an 18th

45:44

banner. Celtics are I in 1920, 2020. They

45:46

are in quite a position right now. Lakers

45:48

gonna have to deal with that. But let's

45:51

talk about the other side of the country.

45:53

Go ahead. Yeah, Wendy, obviously, when you know,

45:55

teams like the Celtics come along, they're just

45:57

so much better than every other team in

45:59

the league by a wide margin. There's usually

46:01

a response except one. No,

46:03

no, we can just say everyone today.

46:06

But I mean, to your point, you want

46:08

to talk about Tatum's greatness today. I appreciated

46:10

that very much. But- Yeah,

46:12

I did appreciate that. Actually, Wendy was

46:14

asked, are Brown and Tatum both top

46:17

five players? And Wendy, your answer was like, today's

46:19

to celebrate these guys. It's not that like- Yeah.

46:22

We pray. That was good shit.

46:24

Hell yeah, Wendy. That was good shit, Wendy. That was

46:26

good shit, Wendy. Because people obviously act like they have

46:29

to answer these questions in a manner in which

46:31

they have to give burials in all the

46:33

time. And you saying, not

46:35

playing that game. We all genuinely appreciate it.

46:37

Yeah. Especially the people in Boston.

46:39

For shoot, definitely the people in Boston. I

46:41

think because of that, Wendy, we will stand

46:43

on business for you at any moment in

46:46

the future. But looking at the league as

46:48

a whole now, which teams do you think

46:50

are probably the ones that are going to

46:52

try and form like the new super team?

46:54

Obviously, they're talking about Paul George, maybe going

46:56

to Philly or something along those lines. Trey

46:58

Young has been talked about to go to

47:00

the Lakers, like you're mentioning with them adding another

47:02

piece. Which teams should we keep an eye on

47:04

to add a massive player to kind of make

47:07

that run at the title next year? Well,

47:09

I really, so Denver has a big off season

47:11

here. First off, they got to sign Jamal Murray

47:14

to a contract extension. I assume that will happen

47:16

in the short term future. 200 million in four

47:18

years, they can add to his deal. So

47:20

he'll be locked up alongside those other guys. As

47:23

I would, what I was mentioning was Denver was 2-0

47:25

against Celtics this year. They were very close games. I

47:29

would love to have seen that series. Denver didn't get their,

47:31

didn't handle their business. So they lost game seven on their

47:33

home court. They got their own issues they got to deal

47:35

with. That is a team that

47:37

could potentially stand in the way of Boston

47:39

racking some more of these up. Also, we've

47:41

had six straight years of a

47:43

different champion. That is an indication

47:45

of a league where parody is going. And

47:48

this new CBA is designed to break up

47:50

teams, to break up expensive teams.

47:53

So I would expect it to be

47:55

a challenge to repeat. That said, Tatum and Brown are 26

47:57

and 27. under

48:00

long term contract with a bunch of

48:02

experience with a bunch of experience and

48:04

championship pedigree. Now, those

48:07

numbers are going to the rafters. No

48:09

one's wearing number seven and number zero

48:11

again in Boston, the 18th, they're running

48:14

out of numbers. They really are talking

48:16

about all five of those starters being

48:18

retired. That's like the conversation. Like Horford,

48:20

you got to do that. But listen,

48:22

hey, the standards pretty high.

48:24

But listen, like, it won't be today. And

48:26

it won't be tomorrow. But before next season,

48:29

somebody's gonna start whispering about banner 19. And

48:32

that's just the way it's going to be and they get their

48:34

well positioned to do it. They absolutely

48:36

could do it. But the West is

48:38

going to be a challenge. Denver

48:40

has something on their plate

48:42

that maybe people aren't paying attention to. But

48:44

can tavius Caldwell Pope can opt out of

48:46

his contract by the end of the month

48:49

and I think he will. And there's going

48:51

to be a whole bunch of teams that

48:54

want that want

48:56

to sign him and Denver's going

48:58

to be in competition. And they don't

49:00

have the replacement sitting on their bed. Well, maybe they

49:02

think they do one of these young guys, but they

49:04

got to make sure they can try to keep him. So

49:07

they've got a challenge. Philly, the interesting thing with

49:09

Philly is this some of these guys that I'm

49:11

hearing about that they're have interest in obviously

49:13

they're interested in Paul George. I mean, Joel

49:16

Embiid did everything but give them a

49:18

Valentine on national television other night. Yeah,

49:20

there's been some discussion about whether they

49:24

would go after Jimmy Butler. Again,

49:28

but I'm not sure that you want

49:31

to go if you look at this Celtics team,

49:34

and you look at how they're built, do

49:36

you want a big three with you

49:39

know, one of the guys in their mid 30s making

49:41

a ton of money? Or do you want to maybe

49:43

split your money up on multiple

49:45

different wing players that can handle what Boston

49:47

throws at you. And so

49:49

if I was Philly, and I don't

49:51

have a total game plan for him now, because I'm

49:53

just coming off these finals, but Philly is I mean,

49:56

they're gonna try to get Paul George Paul George is

49:58

an all star Paul George the Hall of Famer. It

52:00

doesn't sound like it when you're talking about these

52:02

teams and you've got multiple calls. We assume you

52:04

have to go somewhere Thank you. The NBA executives

52:07

are calling because the the

52:09

the offseason has begun and now

52:11

the I've said no to

52:13

two agents in Back

52:17

on the bait after spending six hours

52:19

on TV this morning the incomparable Brian

52:21

Winters He Crushed

52:25

it. Yeah, he's a dog showed up literally showed

52:27

up everywhere Mm-hmm said every single game even if

52:29

he was flying in day of was like I'm

52:31

gonna be there on TV in New York Next

52:34

day most of it what a run

52:36

for Wendy files MVP. He you

52:38

know what? Yeah, he said those votes should

52:41

have been 5 5 1. I think it

52:43

should have been 4 4 4, you know, yeah three

52:49

three three three Three

52:52

three three two three. No, you know, I think

52:54

you put him right up there with Tatum and

52:57

yeah Yeah, I get

52:59

a drew holiday one. He's splitting the

53:01

MVP trophy. Yeah, he's He's

53:03

doing this. Yeah, yeah, exactly Yeah,

53:05

he for Tatum three for Brown three for Wendy two

53:08

for Drew bingo. That's exactly that's exactly how I see

53:10

it going It's shout out to Wendy way to go

53:12

with Wendy shout to the Celtics to it Sounds like

53:14

you guys are in a good spot for the foreseeable

53:16

future. Yeah But man you

53:19

have to have so much shit happen for you it

53:21

like we're talking about all the injuries and stuff it's

53:23

like Seemingly, I don't know

53:25

poor Zingas got hurt but played a lot of games

53:27

without him Mm-hmm. You got a lot of your guys

53:30

playing in a lot of your games I mean, that's

53:32

the same thing with a D NHL Yeah panther's sure

53:34

has a lot of their guys playing in a lot

53:36

of their games not that the others aren't but I'm

53:38

just saying Like to make it to the finals you

53:41

need your dudes to be playing in most of your

53:43

games and the Celtics seemingly had that a lot Yeah,

53:45

I mean that's what the whole thing was last year

53:47

was when when Tatum got hurt on that first play

53:50

in game seven Like so many times and that's what

53:52

my thought was when they went up 3-0 like it's

53:54

it's great that they were up 3-0 in

53:56

The moment, but you never know if game four

53:58

something terrible happens to one of your

54:00

best players. So that was definitely a huge

54:03

thing for this out there. But I do

54:05

think there will be a team that answers

54:07

and just makes an absurd move. Like I

54:09

believe and I'm not 100% sure because sometimes

54:11

on the internet things can get skewed. There

54:13

was a potential meeting of LeBron with some

54:15

of the people from Philly. So it's like

54:17

stuff like that. You never know just out

54:19

of nowhere. Well, I'm sure on the next

54:21

hour, he'll probably have a little bit of

54:24

a scoop on if that's real or if we need

54:26

to look at it. But there's some stats from him

54:28

that I got that make me believe that this Celtics

54:30

team is at a point and he said the last

54:32

six years there's been a new champion. It's like, well,

54:34

for the last six years, has this team been maybe,

54:37

you know, like coming together? Growing. Has this

54:39

team been growing? Their records this year, 46

54:41

and six at home. Okay, this year,

54:43

34 and 15 on the road and 34 and 15 versus teams of 500 or better,

54:49

which is the best record in the

54:51

entire NBA. And then you hear Jalen

54:53

Brown speak after the game about their

54:55

team. And you hear like a

54:58

speech right out of a movie. Pretty much listen

55:00

to the NBA Finals MVP chit

55:02

chat about where their team is now. We

55:04

learn. I think we learn from all our

55:06

mistakes. All of our adversity, I think has

55:08

made us stronger, made us tougher. And

55:10

all season, you can see it. No,

55:13

we started from the jump. We made

55:15

all the sacrifices. We played both ends of the ball at

55:17

a high level. We didn't skip any steps. And

55:20

this was the result. But all

55:22

of those experiences like led to here, like

55:24

all of those moments where we came up

55:26

short, we felt like we let the city

55:29

down. We feel like we let ourselves down. All

55:31

of that compiled is how

55:33

we get to this moment. So, you know, and

55:36

it makes it feel even that much better. And

55:38

that we had to go through all the

55:40

journey, the heartbreak, the embarrassment, the loss

55:43

to get to this, to get to the

55:45

mountain top. So, dear AI, write

55:47

me a speech about team pretty

55:49

much and building chemistry in surviving

55:52

adversity and getting stronger and having

55:54

somebody be able to speak it

55:56

in a fashion as if he

55:58

is the head coach. of the

56:00

basketball team and he's only 27 years

56:03

old and he's under contract the next five

56:05

years. It's like you see shit like that

56:07

and you see the way they all celebrate

56:09

and you see Joe Missoula saying that nobody

56:11

cares about anything. Basically, we just need to

56:13

continue to lock in. They have an old

56:15

school mentality seemingly with an abundance of talent.

56:17

And it's like, are we about

56:19

to be in another Masshole

56:21

Dynasty run? Well, they

56:24

had the Patriots for 20 years. Mm-hmm. Now

56:26

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56:28

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56:30

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again, for the 18th time in their franchise's

58:50

history, NBA champions as

58:52

they beat the Mavericks at home

58:54

last night in a game

58:56

five dominating performance. And obviously there's a lot

58:59

of chatter about that because we're staring down

59:01

a potential timeline for the next five to

59:03

10 years of the Celtics winning a lot

59:05

and other teams trying to chase them. And

59:08

if Massholes have another opportunity to talk shit

59:10

to the rest of us, they're certainly going

59:12

to do that in this team with that

59:14

coach and the president of basketball,

59:17

Brad Stevens at the helm.

59:20

It feels like we're going to have to be talking about them

59:22

a lot. Now, this year, nobody talked about them because they were

59:24

too good early. They were the ones

59:26

who punched their ticket into the playoffs before any other

59:28

team in the NBA. They were

59:31

so good, so fast, so dominant that literally

59:33

they got left out of the conversations. They

59:35

said, let's not talk about

59:37

the one team that's better than everybody. Let's

59:39

talk about who might catch the one team

59:42

because there's a lot more teams in that

59:44

particular bucket than in the Boston. Never

59:47

got chatted about. Instead, people forgot how great they

59:49

were and why they weren't being talked about. It's

59:51

because they were so great. And then they go

59:53

on a performance throughout the playoffs where at one

59:55

point they won 12 games straight or 11 games

59:57

straight or something like that. It

59:59

was filthy. Their coach is young. Youngest

1:00:02

coach to make the NBA final since 1969. Obviously

1:00:05

youngest coach to win the NBA final since

1:00:07

1969. He's locked

1:00:09

into a long-term deal there. They play a

1:00:11

certain style of basketball on both ends of

1:00:13

the floor. The culture has been established both

1:00:15

at UConn, which is nearby with Dan Hurley.

1:00:17

This is how we play ball. The Boston

1:00:20

Celtics now know exactly how they play basketball.

1:00:22

Their two pillars have bought in from the

1:00:24

jump from both defensive side and offensive side.

1:00:26

You talk about the match. It's like Luca's

1:00:28

gonna have to give more effort on defensive

1:00:30

side. That's the whole conversation piece. We know

1:00:32

he could score 50, but he's a liability

1:00:34

on one side. Katum and Brown are like

1:00:36

two of the best defenders in the league.

1:00:38

Then you have Drew Holliday

1:00:40

getting dropped in there doing the same damn

1:00:42

thing. Smack in the wood at 30 plus

1:00:45

years of age. Al Horford played 17 years,

1:00:47

finally wins. He's on the defensive side of

1:00:49

the ball. It's just like their culture is

1:00:52

established. They're now champions and now

1:00:54

everybody's gonna ask the question. Well, how many can

1:00:56

you win? And I'm sorry that that has to

1:00:58

happen. But let's head to the toxic table at

1:01:00

Ty Schmidt and 18. Thank

1:01:03

you. NBA champion Boston Connor. Is this team going

1:01:05

to be able to go on a run? That's

1:01:07

all the conversation is. I apologize for that because

1:01:09

we're less than 24 hours removed and

1:01:12

we're already looking ahead. Yeah, it's a barm, but

1:01:14

also it's nice because if your team is as

1:01:16

great as the Celtics are like that is the

1:01:18

conversation. It really wasn't like that with the Nuggets.

1:01:20

The conversation was like hey, Yogic is one of

1:01:22

the best players ever. It wasn't like oh this

1:01:25

team might go on a five-year run where they're

1:01:27

winning titles every single year. I think it's kind

1:01:29

of a testament to how great the Celtics are,

1:01:31

but I think that also goes to why it's

1:01:34

awesome that Jason Tatum didn't win the finals MVP

1:01:36

like there's more stuff to be done for the

1:01:38

Celtics team just within the team itself. And you

1:01:40

know, Tatum said it after what was a game

1:01:42

through your game for where he actually brought that

1:01:45

up where he said hey, I mean look you

1:01:47

guys are going to say it was easy either

1:01:49

way. So we're just going to have to come

1:01:51

back and do it again next year. I love

1:01:53

it. I think the conversation being that the Celtics

1:01:56

are going to win four to five titles over

1:01:58

the next 10 years is something Well,

1:02:00

if you don't now, you know, for sure. Is

1:02:03

this team good? And maybe that'll

1:02:05

be the thing. If they don't win four titles

1:02:08

in the next five years, is this team even

1:02:10

worth a shit? I mean, I don't know. You're

1:02:12

going to have to prove it. Who knows? But

1:02:15

that's kind of what the owner talked about

1:02:17

when they were doing the trophy ceremony was

1:02:19

that going into this year. And really, since

1:02:22

Joe Missoula has been the head coach, the

1:02:24

expectation every year has been finals, has been

1:02:26

winning the championship, not just going. So having

1:02:28

Joe Missoula there, I think will kind of

1:02:30

make it a real possibility. Hey, they

1:02:33

can block out the noise like they

1:02:35

did this year, and they can do

1:02:37

that every year going forward. And there

1:02:39

is that real situation where people like

1:02:41

D-Bud, who are Heat fans, who there

1:02:43

was that little rivalry, like now it's

1:02:45

been, it's been changed. It's the Celtics

1:02:47

league. It will be going forward and

1:02:50

we'll see what happens with the rest of the East.

1:02:52

But clearly, and Wendy kind of alluded

1:02:54

to it too, like there are steps

1:02:57

and levels to this shit in the

1:02:59

Celtics level is so much higher than

1:03:01

everybody else. Effort wise, talent wise, buy

1:03:04

in wise, culture wise, fan wise, home

1:03:06

court advantage. Everything. I

1:03:09

mean, it is a quite a

1:03:11

lot of people talking about Coach E-Mae last

1:03:13

night on the area. Yeah, I said E-Mae,

1:03:15

you don't because horny ass could just stop

1:03:17

for a second. He'd be an NBA champion

1:03:19

right now too. Yeah, because obviously, whenever they

1:03:21

lose, him and Joe Missoula becomes head coach.

1:03:23

He's hired this young kid. What do we,

1:03:25

from the back row, what do we? He's

1:03:28

not going to do anything. He just can

1:03:30

it, boss and stuff. He's

1:03:32

just mailing it. Okay, that's who we are now. That's

1:03:35

who we are now. Instead might be the greatest coach in

1:03:37

the history of basketball. We have no idea when it's all

1:03:39

said and done. The guy might become

1:03:41

the greatest coach of all time for how young

1:03:43

he is, how successful he's been and how he

1:03:46

handles himself and operates like on a

1:03:48

day to day basis. It's like, what if Joe Missoula

1:03:50

goes on to be the greatest of all time and

1:03:52

then everybody's going to look back on that situation

1:03:55

that K-G-Mae poured himself into,

1:03:58

actually. And

1:04:00

out of it. Yep.

1:04:03

And back into it. And out of it. And

1:04:05

back into it. And back into it. And back

1:04:07

into it. And back into it. That

1:04:09

thing undefeated. On and on and on.

1:04:11

All the time. Anyways, that seemingly blessing

1:04:13

in disguise to get Joe Mazzola in

1:04:16

here to play Mazzola basketball for this

1:04:18

Boston South 16 nine year NFL vet

1:04:20

Darius J Butler who just won his

1:04:22

own basketball championship this past weekend. Do

1:04:25

you think this bodes well for your Florida

1:04:27

Panthers who have a game tonight in game

1:04:29

four? Game five. Everybody thought that there was

1:04:31

going to be maybe two sweeps. And

1:04:34

then both the NBA and the NHL game

1:04:36

fours resembled each other. Absolute ass

1:04:38

beatings. 38 point def differential

1:04:40

in the NBA game four where the

1:04:42

Celtics lay the biggest egg that they've

1:04:44

laid in however many years. And

1:04:47

then eight was the Edmonton Oilers

1:04:49

beat the Florida Panthers in Edmonton.

1:04:52

Biggest differential and blah, blah, blah in the NHL.

1:04:54

Do you think game five now after watching last

1:04:57

night is the Florida Panthers to win? Are you

1:04:59

guys dancing with the Stanley Cup tonight? I hope

1:05:01

so. And like I said, I do not want

1:05:03

to see him partying obviously with the Celtics. But

1:05:05

yeah, I think we had. I think there's a

1:05:08

good chance you see him. Stanley Cup, Kane Loeber

1:05:10

next to each other. You're going to see Lourdes

1:05:12

and Larry just kind of bopping through Liv. Barcopping,

1:05:14

Brian. I'm like in this little shuffle together. And

1:05:16

I was in Liv that night 2011 when they

1:05:19

came in there dropping blue and white confetti. Mark

1:05:21

Cuban coming in with big tubs. Biggest

1:05:23

ace of spade bottles I ever seen. But I'm

1:05:25

hoping that for my Panthers tonight. I think they

1:05:27

figured out. Captain over there. Sascha Hump, Barcoff right

1:05:30

over there. He's going to take care of business.

1:05:32

They got to slow down. Obviously those guys ate

1:05:34

one. You know, that's one of the times you

1:05:36

come home after an ass beating like that. PK

1:05:38

said they flew the wives out. They flew the

1:05:41

family out. Now everybody's back home. Sixteen hours worth

1:05:43

of flights. Yeah, tough. I think I think we

1:05:45

win the night and in pretty dominant fashion. All

1:05:47

right. I'm excited to watch obviously game five this

1:05:49

evening. We'll be talking to Mark Messier, six time

1:05:52

champion in a matter of moments. And

1:05:54

you know, is McDavy going to let it

1:05:56

happen? We shall see. Joining us now is a man who's... cup

1:06:00

has been within his family. Yeah. He's

1:06:02

a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion,

1:06:05

a Rotter cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time

1:06:07

leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, AJ Haw.

1:06:11

AJ dominating performance last night by the

1:06:13

Celtics. Obviously it was like a 20 point spread

1:06:15

seemingly early and they maintained throughout

1:06:17

the entirety and the garden was electrifying. And then

1:06:20

now tonight we got a game five that could

1:06:22

end it all. It's a great time in sports,

1:06:24

AJ. Great time in sports. Yeah, great time in

1:06:26

sports. We better soak it up right now as

1:06:28

we have it because there's a we're staring at,

1:06:30

you know, the abyss of the rest of the

1:06:32

summer, I guess. This

1:06:35

your first lot of good stuff. But I

1:06:37

kind of left that thing just wide open there

1:06:40

for you to talk about the Celtics or go

1:06:42

Panthers there. And instead you go, boys, don't look

1:06:44

now less than 24 hours away from

1:06:46

the abyss. What you said dead died. I said enjoy

1:06:48

it. We need to enjoy the time that we have

1:06:50

right now. We enjoy the game tonight and congrats to

1:06:52

con man. Like as con man, honestly, I feel like

1:06:54

they should have reached out by now giving him an

1:06:56

invite to one of these duck boats Okay,

1:06:58

I do not believe he's got an invite to a duck

1:07:00

boat. I do not believe he's expecting an invite. I

1:07:06

mean, I'm not saying no, but I know

1:07:08

that that's not something that we're looking for.

1:07:10

I'm just looking for these boys. I

1:07:13

don't care about the duck boat. I don't

1:07:15

care about, you know, the champagne. I don't

1:07:17

care about smoking the cigars, even though I

1:07:19

will. I was I was causing I mean, Kelsey

1:07:22

pawn is best cigar in the game. I

1:07:24

don't know what she did to make these

1:07:26

cigars, but they are delicious. I smoked one

1:07:28

last night as a victory, of course. But

1:07:31

we can't think they're called Kingmakers Kingmakers. Well,

1:07:33

isn't that fitting? Yeah, for today. We don't

1:07:35

care about the duck

1:07:39

boat. Although I do believe and

1:07:41

I'm not 100% sure this is at

1:07:43

least in my lifetime, the first parade,

1:07:45

I think on a Friday, Wendy wasn't

1:07:48

kidding. I worry about the city of

1:07:50

Boston on Friday, because that rolling into

1:07:52

the weekend, especially everybody is obviously everybody's

1:07:54

going to be off. Are you going

1:07:56

up there and covering it for us?

1:07:58

I don't think so. I

1:08:00

think I can have a Yeah,

1:08:03

we don't you think you have to be there. Are

1:08:05

you kidding me? You have to be there when you

1:08:07

have face time from there obviously We

1:08:12

could probably figure that out. I don't know if I have to be there,

1:08:14

you know per se but yeah I mean

1:08:16

who knows if I can get out of the tugboat. I'm

1:08:18

gonna get Pretty

1:08:20

freakin cool. We're so we have zero

1:08:23

connection to the Boston Celtics. You probably

1:08:25

have Connections obviously with connections

1:08:27

or whatever. I'm not expecting you to

1:08:29

get invited onto a duck boat, which would be

1:08:31

incredibly cool Yes, it would be incredibly cool, but you

1:08:33

definitely have to be there I mean that is something

1:08:35

so can it end you have to be yeah, I

1:08:37

mean it's something you gotta be Yeah, it's been five

1:08:39

long years since they've had a championship parade. I still

1:08:41

remember the one we missed five long years Championship

1:08:44

parade think about that is this was

1:08:46

city of Boston AJ. It is Phenomenal

1:08:49

the amount of times that they just meet

1:08:52

downtown and say let's have a party That's

1:08:54

we're better than everybody else. That's what they're

1:08:56

doing for another sport again It's

1:08:58

uh, it truly is a phenomenal sports city.

1:09:01

You have to respect it How

1:09:04

do you figure it out? How did they figure that

1:09:06

out? That's what I want to know everyone wants that

1:09:08

that has multiple teams multiple professional franchises How did Boston

1:09:10

figure this out now and they always say like well

1:09:12

a lot of the oldest franchises in league So they've

1:09:14

had a lot it's like a lot of people spend

1:09:17

money A lot of people have been around a long

1:09:19

time their current success is just crazy like they're going

1:09:21

back to 2001 till now I

1:09:23

just yeah when you look at the list

1:09:25

like every city would dream of this. Yes,

1:09:27

absolutely And it's like why why are they

1:09:29

able to just know like you look at

1:09:32

some of these Brad Stevens moves They

1:09:34

had a tweet that had like some of the

1:09:36

moves you made who he traded for who and

1:09:38

at the time whenever you see The names like

1:09:40

what the reactions had to be. I don't know

1:09:42

Boston people did it But it's like Brad Stevens

1:09:44

making that move and an age being

1:09:46

like one of the greatest basketball minds in

1:09:48

the history being there It's like we talked

1:09:50

about the Packers with the handoff from Brett

1:09:52

Favre compliment to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love

1:09:54

It's like how do they have it figured

1:09:56

out? It's like they do though, and it's

1:09:58

like Boston all the team you

1:10:01

drink that water up there in the revolution region

1:10:03

and you somehow

1:10:06

just figure it out. It doesn't make

1:10:08

any sense and there isn't a both

1:10:10

better or worse fan

1:10:12

base for it to happen to. It's like there's

1:10:14

no better because how much

1:10:16

everybody up there love sports, like that's

1:10:19

a very genuine love of sport. Because

1:10:21

worse because they are insufferable

1:10:23

at times, but they

1:10:25

have reason to be. It's like it's a

1:10:28

beautiful marriage of sport in region and they

1:10:30

have it figured out up there. Honestly, it

1:10:32

has to be fantastic to have grown up,

1:10:35

growed up, to grown up, to

1:10:37

have grown up there. Honestly, genuinely, that would

1:10:39

be so much fun. It's the luckiest thing

1:10:41

by far. I

1:10:44

thank my parents every day for birthing

1:10:46

me in Massachusetts. But I

1:10:48

genuinely do think, and this is why Robert

1:10:50

Kraft, for me at least, will always be

1:10:52

held in high regard is because of that

1:10:54

like 2001, 2003, like

1:10:58

the Patriots just became a dynasty overnight. And I

1:11:00

don't know if this is how it works, but

1:11:02

I do assume the other teams in the city

1:11:04

were like, hey, we got to figure this shit

1:11:06

out. Like if they can do

1:11:08

this because the- But isn't everybody saying, hey, we got

1:11:10

to figure this out? Like that is what I'm saying.

1:11:12

Boston is different at Boston. Maybe the other teams felt

1:11:14

like they feel pressure from their own fans. We know

1:11:17

how passionate they are. They're probably saying, hey, Patriots are

1:11:19

winning all these Super Bowls. We need you guys to

1:11:21

win. Talking to the Celtics, Red Sox, everybody. But what

1:11:23

does that mean? They just make smarter decisions because they're

1:11:25

trying harder. I don't, I don't, you don't have- They

1:11:28

figured the front office is out. I feel like

1:11:30

Boston, like every great team like has the front

1:11:33

office figured out and Boston seems to have done-

1:11:35

Joining us now, he's a man who I don't

1:11:37

think has any ties to the city

1:11:39

of Boston, but he does have ties

1:11:41

to championships. Six time Stanley

1:11:43

Cup champion, 16 time

1:11:46

NHL All-Star. Ladies

1:11:48

and gentlemen, the Messiah,

1:11:51

Mark Messier. Yeah. Mm.

1:11:54

Good to see you. Well, I do have ties to Boston there at

1:11:56

85 or 80, no, it was that. 85,

1:12:00

88 and 90. Okay.

1:12:03

All right. You played for the Bruins? No,

1:12:06

no, no. We beat them in the finals both the years and 88.

1:12:14

I never heard of Mark Messier on

1:12:16

the I have a deep, deep

1:12:18

respect for Boston. Okay. So let's talk

1:12:21

about the respect obviously for

1:12:24

the teams that have won that you've been on

1:12:26

in like, for instance, we just ran through what

1:12:28

the city of Boston has been able to do

1:12:30

across all sport. Yeah. It's like

1:12:33

why how why are some franchises seemingly

1:12:35

so much better than others? What are

1:12:37

the pieces? Is it just like making

1:12:39

the right decision at the right time?

1:12:42

Is it by accident? Like how do

1:12:44

you think these incredible franchises get piece

1:12:46

together? What is the most important piece

1:12:48

to the entire machine almost

1:12:50

and how do they hit it with

1:12:52

all their teams in one city? Yeah,

1:12:54

that feels wild. Yeah, it's been pretty

1:12:56

incredible run. They've had, you know, you

1:12:58

don't win by accident. You don't win

1:13:00

because you're a good guy. You win

1:13:02

because of it starts at the ownership level

1:13:05

in my opinion. They hire good people, let

1:13:07

them do their job and create a culture

1:13:09

that's conducive to winning and in

1:13:11

my experience is there. That's what we had. Of

1:13:13

course, we had great players there, but without

1:13:16

a culture without some kind of guidance of the

1:13:18

vision of what we're trying to accomplish and how

1:13:20

we're going to accomplish it together. Winning

1:13:22

just doesn't happen. It takes a lot

1:13:25

of hard work. It takes a lot of focus and

1:13:28

you think about the great Boston teams that have

1:13:30

been winning lately. We're starting with Mr.

1:13:32

Craft and what he created there and the people that

1:13:34

he hired and somehow or another

1:13:36

they're able to galvanize together and go on

1:13:38

a journey to to achieve

1:13:40

something that it takes everybody to in order

1:13:42

to do anybody that's not pulling their weight

1:13:45

at any given time. It's

1:13:47

not going to happen and I think it

1:13:49

to your point is culture. It's hiring

1:13:51

good people creating a vision and

1:13:53

then executing that vision. Leadership seemingly

1:13:55

is just the mainstay in all

1:13:57

of it, you know, because getting

1:14:00

Everybody to row in the same direction is not

1:14:02

easy. Humans are naturally not gonna wanna do that.

1:14:04

Some humans are not gonna be able to do

1:14:06

that. So for you to get everybody, which is

1:14:08

why Joe Missoula, this dude, he's the

1:14:10

youngest coach to make the NBA Finals, youngest

1:14:12

one to win an NBA Finals since 1969,

1:14:14

most. Isn't that

1:14:16

crazy that some people just have leadership qualities?

1:14:20

It is, and you're right. Leadership does play

1:14:22

a big role once all the other things

1:14:24

are in place. It's not easy getting 20

1:14:27

players, 25

1:14:29

players on the roster together.

1:14:32

Everybody's motivated for different reasons. I always felt

1:14:34

that if you're stuck trying to motivate everybody,

1:14:36

you're gonna be in for a long haul.

1:14:38

I think more importantly is try to inspire

1:14:40

everybody around you to be their best and

1:14:43

give them a purpose, give them something to

1:14:46

latch onto, a job that is

1:14:48

required on the team. And

1:14:51

you gotta get to know the players. I think

1:14:53

that you can't just expect to come

1:14:55

to the rink at 10 o'clock in the morning for practice

1:14:58

and leave at one o'clock and play

1:15:00

a show up to the game at seven

1:15:02

o'clock and then leave at 10 o'clock. This

1:15:04

is a deeper level of understanding with your

1:15:06

teammates. What motivates them, where they've been, their

1:15:09

mothers, their fathers, their siblings, what got them

1:15:11

here and what challenges did they face getting

1:15:13

there? And when you start to understand them

1:15:15

on a deeper level, it just

1:15:17

has people, you're able to connect with them

1:15:21

and help inspire them to be the best

1:15:23

that they can be. Everybody's got locks, mental

1:15:25

blocks at this level. Even

1:15:30

the best players have at

1:15:33

times challenges to be their best

1:15:35

and lose confidence. So leadership,

1:15:37

culture, all the things that you're talking

1:15:39

about are critical to a team's success.

1:15:41

Yeah, and we just listened to a

1:15:44

man with a nickname of

1:15:46

the captain, Tom, basically. You

1:15:48

just did a leadership TED talk right there. You're gonna

1:15:51

listen to that back. You listen to that back, you're

1:15:53

like, damn, I did a pretty good job breaking down

1:15:55

what leadership is right there. All of the investment, the

1:15:57

time, the getting to know people's why, deal

1:16:00

and you know they always say they don't care

1:16:02

how much you know until they know how

1:16:04

much you care. It's like that's a real deal

1:16:06

whenever you're building a team. Now let's talk about

1:16:09

the NHL. Let's talk about this Florida Panthers team

1:16:11

that has seemingly been doing this for some

1:16:13

years. Let's talk about an Oilers team that wins

1:16:15

by a touchdown in game

1:16:17

four with their backs against the wall. Tonight

1:16:20

what do you think range true? Do you

1:16:22

think it follows suit as the NBA where

1:16:24

the dominant Panthers team get back to being

1:16:26

who they were for the first three games?

1:16:29

Just like the Celtics did or is

1:16:31

what McDavid and the Oilers started in game

1:16:33

four up in that loud barn of Edmonton

1:16:35

going to carry on? How do you think

1:16:37

this one goes tonight Moose? It's

1:16:40

been a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde series

1:16:42

in my opinion. You look at the first game

1:16:45

the Oilers looked great for the first two periods

1:16:47

there but they couldn't solve Bobroski. Florida

1:16:49

was able to lock it down in the third period

1:16:51

and get the three nothing win. Then Florida

1:16:53

kind of got back to the game and the

1:16:55

games two and three and shut the Oilers down

1:16:58

and then of course what we saw in game four

1:17:00

where the Oilers exploded. But game

1:17:02

one could have been the same as game four.

1:17:04

So we haven't seen both teams play their best

1:17:06

at the same time in the series. It's

1:17:09

going to be interesting to see the Oilers

1:17:11

because as the series go on to game

1:17:13

five six seven the the

1:17:15

level of playing field kind of comes

1:17:17

to a comes to

1:17:19

a brink where both teams start to play

1:17:21

well. Is the Oilers best

1:17:23

game good enough to compete with the Florida's

1:17:26

best game? That's what we haven't seen in

1:17:28

the series so far. My guess is

1:17:30

we're going to see it tonight and we're going

1:17:32

to get the answer. But later in

1:17:34

the series both teams kind of find their game.

1:17:36

You got to expect the best players to be

1:17:38

the best players. You got to expect the goaltending

1:17:40

to be great. You got to expect

1:17:42

the defenses to tighten up on both sides.

1:17:45

And if that happens is Edmonton's best good

1:17:47

enough to be Florida's best. Go ahead AJ.

1:17:50

You mentioned Edmonton kind of figuring out Bobroski last game.

1:17:52

Is that something that can kind of unlock a

1:17:54

team or like can you figure out hey there's

1:17:56

a goal we have to tell or some kind

1:17:58

of something that he does. does where you figured

1:18:00

out and you feel like, hey, we can attack it

1:18:02

and keep him guessing. Is that something that is actually

1:18:04

could happen in a series like this? Well,

1:18:07

you know, for one,

1:18:10

he's been on a remarkable run. If you just

1:18:12

look at his body, you work through the playoffs.

1:18:14

It's just been incredible. And very few games have

1:18:16

gone that way that in game four that but

1:18:18

you also have to look at the chances that

1:18:20

the orders got Florida got really loose in that

1:18:22

game there. They gave the order is a chance

1:18:24

to get flying up and down the ice and

1:18:26

turn it into a track meet. Not really, Evanton

1:18:28

likes to live. But

1:18:30

for good players like McDavid, Dreid

1:18:33

Seidel, this guy that are expected

1:18:35

to score once you start

1:18:37

to get that field, you get the confidence back

1:18:39

and the game seems to open up a little

1:18:41

bit there. Everything kind of seems to

1:18:43

be a little bit easier on the

1:18:46

ice. And once you give good players like that

1:18:48

confidence, it's going to be a different story. Now

1:18:50

it's going to be hard to kind of get

1:18:52

that genie back in the bottle for Florida. We've

1:18:54

seen him do it for the last couple of

1:18:56

years. When they get to the game, they play

1:18:58

a stifling defense and

1:19:01

more importantly, they're really on the forecheck. They got

1:19:03

a little loose in the in their game for

1:19:06

the defense and the forwards had a big gap

1:19:08

between them. They weren't connected. And when they did

1:19:10

that, their order start players were able to take

1:19:12

advantage of it, especially McDavid and and they're the

1:19:14

guys that are expected to score. One of

1:19:16

those goals there that we showed during the highlight, obviously, they

1:19:18

scored eight of them. So it is I forget, it might

1:19:21

be a third one we showed. It was

1:19:23

literally five on three and they were in complete unison.

1:19:25

It looked like practice. It looked like literally a practice

1:19:27

rep of five on three as they

1:19:29

just casually boom, boom, bang goal. And then it

1:19:31

was a chill celebration to like, yeah, that was

1:19:34

the easiest rep of all time. Once you

1:19:36

take the top off the bucket, you know, sometimes

1:19:38

it gets a little bit bigger, which is

1:19:41

goes back to a conversation about the Panthers, one

1:19:43

of their best players. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Moose.

1:19:45

So when you're looking at Bob Rovski,

1:19:47

obviously throughout the playoffs next to maybe

1:19:49

she's Sturkin, he's been the best goalie

1:19:51

out there after a game

1:19:53

like that when you get pulled and let in

1:19:56

as many goals as he did when he's been

1:19:58

so dominant. Do you think any doubt? starts

1:20:00

to creep in his head a little bit

1:20:02

like, oh, okay. Like we kind of, we

1:20:04

let them get back into the series. And

1:20:06

for Edmonton now, are they just dumping rubber

1:20:08

on net, just trying to get as many

1:20:11

shots as they can at him to kind

1:20:13

of open that seal again tonight? Dump rubber.

1:20:15

Dump rubber. That's a

1:20:17

great question. Look at it.

1:20:19

Everybody's human. And the

1:20:22

fact that, that

1:20:24

Bob Ross, the way he's played, if

1:20:27

anything, it's going to give the Oilers confidence that

1:20:29

they can score on him. Now, I would say

1:20:31

that in order to be playing at this time

1:20:33

of year and to be under

1:20:35

the pressure that these players are expected

1:20:37

to play and how they're expected to play and how

1:20:40

they're able to, you know, supposed to be able to

1:20:42

stop the puck and score their goals, you

1:20:44

have to be unbelievably tough mentally. There's

1:20:46

a lot of outside chatter that starts to

1:20:48

come in from the media and the press

1:20:51

and guys that haven't scored and they're not

1:20:53

playing up to expectations as they heard. You

1:20:55

know, all that is true at this time of

1:20:57

year, but you have to be so tough mentally

1:20:59

that you don't let it creep into your consciousness.

1:21:01

And that's one of the tough, and we always

1:21:04

talk about the skill level. We always talk about

1:21:06

how hard it is to play and all the

1:21:08

skating and technique and skill level and all that.

1:21:10

But we don't spend enough time talking about it

1:21:12

to be a champion. You got to be tough

1:21:14

mentally. You cannot be afraid

1:21:16

of the moment. You can't let failure

1:21:20

dictate how you're going to play from ship to

1:21:22

ship, never mind game to game and series to

1:21:24

series. You got to be

1:21:26

able to have enough fortitude and resilience to go buck

1:21:28

through it, muck through it

1:21:30

all because it's hard. And of course,

1:21:32

when you're expected to score and the

1:21:34

other team is trying to shut you down, it's

1:21:37

hard. When you're expected to stop the puck and

1:21:39

not let easy goals in, that's hard. And if

1:21:41

at any time you start to crack mentally and

1:21:43

start to second guess yourself, that's when

1:21:45

bad things happen. Now, we'll see whether they've

1:21:47

been able to get Bobrovsky. His

1:21:50

record shows that he's able to rebound

1:21:52

after a tough loss and get bring back to his

1:21:54

game. It'll be interesting to see

1:21:56

what happens tonight. Knock if you buck, Bob, can't wait

1:21:58

to watch him get back. between the pipes down

1:22:01

there in South Florida. Speaking of

1:22:03

South Florida, massive Panthers fan has a

1:22:05

question for Moos. Go ahead, too much.

1:22:07

Yeah, we need the whole squad to

1:22:09

rebound, obviously. You spoke about it

1:22:11

here on the program a couple of times, how hard closeout

1:22:14

games are. And obviously coming from Edmonton after an

1:22:16

embarrassing loss like that, do you think that's more

1:22:18

of a, I know you say you're not really

1:22:21

looking for motivation, but more of a motivating factor

1:22:23

now that you kind of got humble at this

1:22:25

Panthers team with another opportunity to closeout in game

1:22:27

five? Well, that's

1:22:29

interesting because you try to kind of compartmentalize

1:22:32

game to game, and a lot of players

1:22:34

will tell you that the momentum doesn't carry

1:22:36

over from one game to the next. And

1:22:39

that is probably true. In

1:22:41

my experience, being in

1:22:43

this situation, coming home up

1:22:45

3-1 to close it out happened in 1994.

1:22:49

We lost the first game at home, won the next

1:22:51

three, and there we come back to New York from

1:22:53

Vancouver. The parade routes have mapped

1:22:56

out the celebrations. Everybody's in town,

1:22:58

where's the party gonna be? Your

1:23:00

babysitters, family, and

1:23:03

it's hard to win that game because of the

1:23:05

distractions that are around it. You

1:23:08

know, for Edmonton, they're coming in here. There's

1:23:10

nobody around, there's them against the world. They're

1:23:13

down 3-1, there's nothing to lose, the pressure. They're

1:23:16

still hungry, but that little bit

1:23:18

of difference here can sometimes tip the scale

1:23:20

one way or another. It

1:23:22

took us to the game, so you win. And

1:23:24

of course, in 1994, went back to Vancouver and

1:23:26

got beat there and then had to come home

1:23:28

and win in game seven. But this is a

1:23:31

hard game to win. Game five, there's more pressure

1:23:33

on Florida tonight than you would think, being

1:23:35

up 3-1 in the series, coming home and having a

1:23:37

chance to win the Stanley Cup. It's a hard game

1:23:39

to win. We'll see how they handle

1:23:41

it. Okay, speaking of

1:23:43

having celebrations already planned, I

1:23:46

see you've been wearing that elbow room hat. You

1:23:49

know, we've been. When you see in

1:23:51

the elbow room hat, obviously one of

1:23:53

the greatest bars in the

1:23:55

world, everybody knows about it, that has

1:23:58

gone down to Lottie Dottie. You

1:24:00

obviously had a time in Edmonton as well from

1:24:02

what we have. Has this been a run

1:24:05

for you where you've been able to

1:24:08

maybe receive some flowers for everything you've

1:24:10

given to hockey? Have you felt

1:24:12

that while covering the finals here with ESPN?

1:24:14

Because the way PK Subban is keeping us

1:24:16

updated on how this is all going, front

1:24:19

of the program, it feels like

1:24:21

you're getting a chance to hear from the hockey

1:24:23

world about their appreciation for everything you've done for

1:24:25

sport. Have you felt that? I

1:24:28

have felt that it was amazing going back to

1:24:30

Edmonton, even here in Florida, so many great hockey

1:24:32

fans. But I played a lot of years in

1:24:34

the playoffs and the playoffs become a war of

1:24:36

attrition for a player. You got to be tough

1:24:38

mentally, you got to be tough physically, you got

1:24:40

to stay in. But I'll tell you what,

1:24:42

being on the media side, this is a war of

1:24:44

attrition, boy. A lot of

1:24:46

booze. Hey, were

1:24:48

those big old beers? Are

1:24:52

we having beers at night or are we having

1:24:54

mixed drinks? What are we doing right now? Are we

1:24:56

having barley sandwiches? I'm

1:24:58

a tequila drinker, I got to keep it

1:25:00

real with a tequila. Yeah, I appreciate that.

1:25:03

We're not feeling any bloated. We're

1:25:05

housing tequila at elbow room. Oh my

1:25:08

God. Messy, you're the man, dude.

1:25:10

You are the absolute man. We

1:25:12

haven't been having a good time. As you should,

1:25:14

you've earned it. And we've appreciated the

1:25:17

way you guys have covered the NHL all

1:25:19

year and certainly in the playoffs. We'll be

1:25:21

watching tonight. What time do we start tonight?

1:25:24

I think we're at seven o'clock on the Point,

1:25:26

the pregame show, and then eight o'clock on ABC.

1:25:28

Come and see us. We're going to have a

1:25:30

good time again tonight. We cannot wait. We appreciate

1:25:33

you. And tonight's set will probably look a little

1:25:35

different than the Edmonton one. Hopefully. Let's

1:25:37

go, not just the front. Hey, the set in

1:25:39

Edmonton was perfect. That's just what Edmonton is. It

1:25:41

was awesome. I heard they were on top of

1:25:43

you guys. It felt like that, huh? Oh yeah.

1:25:45

Oh yeah. That crowd, I tell

1:25:48

you, I've been a lot of arenas, a lot of big

1:25:50

moments, a lot of fan bases, cheering

1:25:52

their teams, but that was incredible. Anybody

1:25:54

that was there will remember that the rest of their lives.

1:25:57

Oh, hockey's awesome. Yeah. Awesome.

1:26:00

Mark Messier, we appreciate you.

1:26:02

Yeah, Boos. All right, Moose.

1:26:05

Six times Stanley Cup champion. Yeah. Darn. That's

1:26:07

a lot. That's a lot of winning. Especially

1:26:09

with the one without Gretz. How many does

1:26:11

Sid have? Three.

1:26:13

Yeah. Four? Three or four? Three. I think

1:26:15

it's three. OK. But Olympic gold medal too,

1:26:18

he won it obviously. Son of a bitch.

1:26:20

So yeah, Fort Canada did love that. Quick.

1:26:22

Game winner. It was such a good shot.

1:26:24

It was overtime? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Such a

1:26:26

good shot. Beat and Ryan Mellon. Such a

1:26:28

Sidney Crosby shot. Just like no

1:26:30

angle. There's that clip of him telling

1:26:32

a gimla right before the play. Like,

1:26:35

hey, get me the puck. Yeah,

1:26:37

I'll be there. Find me. You know how

1:26:39

this works. Wow. Yeah. Hockey's awesome, dude. It

1:26:41

really is. And tonight should be electrifying down

1:26:43

there in Sunrise, Florida. I think everybody's expecting

1:26:45

the Panthers to win. Yes. For sure. But

1:26:48

McDavid, he's the best

1:26:50

player in hockey. Yeah. That story of him, could

1:26:52

you imagine? He would become one of the all-time

1:26:54

greats if he were to come back down 3-0.

1:26:57

Especially in Edmonton. Yeah. Because if they

1:26:59

get back there, obviously, it'll be absolutely

1:27:01

bananas. But then you think about what

1:27:03

could be with Jay

1:27:06

Tatum. Uh-huh. Doing

1:27:08

this all over that arena. With

1:27:11

middle school friend Kachuck

1:27:13

Winallorda. The photo

1:27:17

of Tatum with the car. They

1:27:20

have to get a school bus seat. Yeah. Yeah.

1:27:22

So he can really. Documentary. Has to be. Crazy.

1:27:24

They're probably already filming it right now. That's probably

1:27:26

why they're heading down there. OK. Netflix

1:27:29

filming, obviously. Panthers game

1:27:31

five. Kachuck, Jay

1:27:34

Tatum's. A middle school

1:27:36

friend, obviously, is the moment. That never

1:27:38

happens. Celtics have been documenting the entire

1:27:40

season for a last day and ask

1:27:42

documentary at the end of it. Which

1:27:44

obviously we're here now. OK. I'm excited

1:27:46

to see any behind the scenes stuff. Just

1:27:48

like that Hard Knocks announcement yesterday of the entire

1:27:50

AFC North during the season, that should be fantastic.

1:27:52

Obviously, the Giants here in the off season. And

1:27:55

then training camp there at the. Chicago Bears. Which

1:27:57

is going to be amazing. Because Kayla Williams first

1:27:59

taste. as an NFL quarterback. We'll get

1:28:01

to see how he handles it all. And

1:28:03

as an investment businessman leader. Yeah, he's got

1:28:05

a capital. Midas 88. There it is. Best

1:28:07

now. 888, I believe, not just 88. Investors,

1:28:13

possibly you. Midas 888. He's

1:28:16

getting into a little venture capitalism, I

1:28:18

do believe. Smart. He's made $10 million,

1:28:20

I guess, at USC, right? He's the

1:28:22

highest paid NIL player in all

1:28:24

of college in the history of NIL. I

1:28:26

think Caleb had the most amount of money.

1:28:28

So he's been rich for a little bit

1:28:30

now. And obviously, number one pick in the NFL,

1:28:32

you're going to get more money. He just wants

1:28:34

to make sure his money's working for him. When

1:28:36

he lays his head down at night, he wants

1:28:38

to make sure that his money isn't sleeping. His

1:28:40

money's always working. Smart. And I respect that. As

1:28:42

long as you got the right people making decisions.

1:28:45

And if you're the person, you make some good

1:28:47

sound moves. Because if you make a couple and

1:28:49

they hit, bingo.

1:28:52

You invest in like floating

1:28:54

furniture. Ooh, might be tough. It's

1:28:57

not going to be great. There's a big difference.

1:28:59

But that's the investment game. And Caleb will ace

1:29:02

it, I assume. Just like that. You're good at

1:29:04

football, too. That will absolutely help your

1:29:06

investment portfolio. That could help a lot. Yeah, because

1:29:08

that next deal, you see, Trevor Lawrence just got

1:29:10

$275 million. Now, actual

1:29:13

$147 million or something like that.

1:29:15

And then what's real, what's not real, we have

1:29:17

no idea. But you get that amount of money.

1:29:19

Now you can really start doing some investing. And

1:29:21

I do believe, and I appreciate them making a

1:29:24

big deal out of Caleb doing his investment thing,

1:29:26

especially as a rookie. I like that he's a

1:29:28

businessman in this entire thing. I

1:29:31

think every quarterback has some sort

1:29:33

of investment branch in their

1:29:35

world. I

1:29:37

assume. In their world. And that's good business,

1:29:39

baby. So I appreciate that Caleb's doing it

1:29:42

immediately upon entering the NFL, because he's already

1:29:44

got that NIL money. Yeah, pretty sweet. But

1:29:46

if they don't play well, as far as

1:29:48

being good at football, is this the type

1:29:50

of stuff that comes back in kind of

1:29:52

bites him in the ass? No, because this

1:29:54

thing could save. This could be. But

1:29:57

anything you do, you can't do anything worrying about that as a

1:29:59

quarterback. Cause you know, if you do not,

1:30:02

no matter how well he plays, they're still going

1:30:04

to puke people all get in the playbook. You

1:30:06

know, we don't, you know, first incomplete pass he

1:30:08

has. Oh, how's your hedge fund going, buddy? Like

1:30:11

people just don't understand. Yeah. And if it's, if

1:30:13

it's Caleb directly and he plays football

1:30:15

really well and also fielding pitches

1:30:17

and negotiating, um, acquisitions

1:30:20

and stuff, that is awesome. This

1:30:23

is weapon through and through,

1:30:25

or if it's somebody that he trusts and

1:30:28

he's co-working and behind, it's

1:30:30

like, whatever the case, we hope it works

1:30:32

out. Hope you get to a billion pal.

1:30:34

Speaking of a billion, there's been a few

1:30:36

athletes who have made to a billion. LeBron

1:30:38

James is one of them. There's a lot

1:30:40

of questions around what the hell is going

1:30:42

on with his team, his life and his

1:30:44

future joining us now, senior NBA insider for

1:30:46

Fandell TV and the athletic, ladies and gentlemen,

1:30:48

the ever handsome great season

1:30:50

two, Sean. How's

1:30:55

that guy? What's he doing? Is he, is he going to

1:30:57

head to the parade on Friday? Do we have a parade

1:30:59

report? You, Sean, you tell us, how do you think he's

1:31:01

doing? Look at this guy. Yeah, he's

1:31:04

great. He looks like all the

1:31:06

fans I saw last night leaving. Yeah.

1:31:09

Bingo. You're

1:31:13

plastered right now. It's okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

1:31:16

whoa, whoa. Oh, he's not even spoken to

1:31:18

cigar. JC had, although he did have a

1:31:20

great time last night, I FaceTimed him as

1:31:22

the game was ending last night and boy,

1:31:25

the look of pure joy on

1:31:27

his face, dancing around his apartment, I assume you

1:31:29

saw a lot of that in Boston and thank

1:31:31

you for your coverage all season

1:31:33

long. Great season. Congratulations

1:31:35

on a great season. Shams. Let's

1:31:38

get to now the topics of discussion.

1:31:41

Tatum's about to sign a 300 plus million dollar deal.

1:31:44

I guess. When is that taking place? And that'll lock

1:31:46

down the two pillars for the Celtics for the next

1:31:48

four or five years, right? Yeah.

1:31:50

The Celtics and Jason Tatum will start

1:31:53

beginning talks on that five year, $350

1:31:56

million deal that'll

1:31:58

happen after everyone's sobered up. The

1:32:00

whole team is in Miami right now. Well,

1:32:02

they're having a great time. Oh, yeah, and

1:32:05

then it's gonna be Friday I would expect

1:32:07

some point after that Jason Tatum is agent

1:32:09

the Celtics get down to brass tacks I

1:32:11

mean at this point, it's really does he

1:32:13

have a player option? What are the kickers

1:32:15

were the bonuses? But

1:32:18

the Celtics moved quick on Jalen Brown

1:32:20

last year in the summertime getting his

1:32:22

extension done He became the the highest

1:32:25

paid player of NBA history When

1:32:27

he signed that five year three hundred four

1:32:29

million dollar deal last summer this year a summer

1:32:32

later Jason Tatum is gonna become the

1:32:34

highest paid player in NBA history But

1:32:36

this is just gonna start the trend

1:32:38

Nicole a yo catch Luca Doncic There's

1:32:41

gonna be players here that come to

1:32:43

file shade goes Alexander One

1:32:45

of these days a player is gonna end up making

1:32:47

90 to 100 million dollars That point's

1:32:49

not gonna be the next couple years, but

1:32:51

she goes Alexander Luca Doncic Nicole

1:32:54

yo catch all are gonna be in line

1:32:56

for massive Supermax extensions in the coming years

1:32:58

as well after Jason Tatum. Oh and Joker's

1:33:00

horse just won Congratulations Joker

1:33:02

obviously his horse got a big-time dub

1:33:04

last night as the NBA Season

1:33:07

was wrapping up in Boston and how does

1:33:09

this work shams? Just for somebody that doesn't

1:33:11

pay close enough attention in our league the

1:33:13

NFL You can't just give everybody the biggest

1:33:16

contract on earth because there's like a salary

1:33:18

cap and other shit like that How are

1:33:20

they able to just pay people more money

1:33:22

than anybody's ever been paid them back-to-back off

1:33:24

seasons and still have everybody on? Their

1:33:27

roster houses Brad Stevens some sort of wizard.

1:33:29

How does this work out? Essentially

1:33:31

luxury tax and second apron those are

1:33:33

interesting phrases. Those are obviously, you know

1:33:35

the luxury tax There's tax payments in

1:33:38

every league really and when you think

1:33:40

about the NBA The

1:33:42

ownership groups that are willing to pay and

1:33:44

spend the top dollar and that was the

1:33:46

question on these Celtics is they go year

1:33:48

after Your Jalen Brown you think about his

1:33:50

eight seasons in Boston. They've been to the

1:33:52

conference finals. I think four times They've been

1:33:54

in the finals twice now. They finally won

1:33:56

it Jason Tatum similarly. They've been to the

1:33:58

conference files They've been the NBA Finals,

1:34:00

but to keep these teams together, it is

1:34:03

expensive. The Celtics will be among the teams

1:34:05

that are gonna end up paying the most

1:34:07

luxury tax next season. They're gonna be faced

1:34:09

with a heavy tax bill. When

1:34:11

you think about, you have Jason Tatum, you

1:34:13

have Jaylen Brown, Chris Osborzingis is locked in,

1:34:15

Drew Hott is on a massive deal, Derek

1:34:17

White you're gonna need to re-sign to a

1:34:19

massive extension as well. So your top five

1:34:21

players, your starters, they've got the best starting

1:34:23

five in the NBA, and that starting

1:34:26

five is gonna be also the

1:34:28

most expensive. And when you think

1:34:30

about it, they're gonna have Jaylen

1:34:32

Brown and Jason Tatum at over

1:34:34

$600 million combined over the next

1:34:36

five years, once Jason

1:34:38

Tatum signs that contract extension. So- And

1:34:41

ownership says, you see this team, you

1:34:44

know how many bidders we sell here. The Celtics,

1:34:46

we should be just willing to pay top dollar.

1:34:48

And we saw Joe Lakeham do it year after

1:34:50

year, Steve Balmer's done it year after year. And

1:34:52

if the Celtics didn't win this year, then you

1:34:54

would have heard questions about the roster. Who do

1:34:56

you keep? Who do you trade? This is a

1:34:59

team that's doubled down on their guys, especially Jaylen

1:35:01

Brown and Jason Tatum. Everyone wants to pit these

1:35:03

two together. I remember I spoke to Jaylen Brown

1:35:06

one-on-one last year. What he told me is, he

1:35:09

knows he's a part of Jason Tatum's legacy. He

1:35:11

knows that they're part of each other's legacy. And

1:35:14

I think they're gonna be intertwined for the remainder of their careers.

1:35:16

Yeah, and it seems like they get along just fine. One's 27,

1:35:18

one's 26. And

1:35:21

I was reminded today by Hembo

1:35:23

that when Jaylen Brown was drafted, it

1:35:25

was not a very popular draft pick.

1:35:27

And then obviously, Tatum never gets the

1:35:29

conversation about being the future of the

1:35:31

NBA ever. So those two have probably

1:35:33

felt pretty disrespected alongside of each other

1:35:35

for a long time. That can grow

1:35:37

quite a bond, even though it does

1:35:39

feel like the national media, sports media,

1:35:42

basketball media, has been trying to say

1:35:44

like, well, who's the alpha here? You

1:35:46

know, an entire thing? They seemingly don't

1:35:49

care about that at all. And if

1:35:51

they're both wealthy, it's like that settles

1:35:53

that entire potential pettiness as well in

1:35:55

Boston. It's been brilliantly run seemingly. Yeah,

1:35:57

to that point too. To everything. Yeah,

1:36:00

legit. That's it. That's all the titles. That's all

1:36:02

it's about, winning. Winning in titles and the fact

1:36:04

that they both really respect each other, that's

1:36:07

the biggest thing. There's not this ego, there's

1:36:09

not this one guy might be better.

1:36:12

There was a couple of years ago where a lot

1:36:14

of people were asking should the Celtics trade Jaylen

1:36:16

Brown. And what did Jason Tatum do? He went

1:36:18

out publicly. He said, I want Jaylen Brown here.

1:36:21

I don't want him gone. He went privately, said

1:36:23

the same thing. And they had

1:36:25

conversations about Kevin Durant a couple of years

1:36:27

ago and they made offers that included Jaylen

1:36:29

Brown. Jaylen Brown didn't let that affect him.

1:36:31

He kept through it and now he's a

1:36:33

finals MVP. That's awesome. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah,

1:36:35

Sean, to the point about the draft too,

1:36:37

the first pick and the second pick were

1:36:39

Lakers and Sixers in

1:36:41

both of those drafts. So, you know, people who

1:36:44

are pissed off as Sixers or Lakers fans, you kind

1:36:46

of screwed that up on your own. But we were

1:36:48

talking about this earlier as well, Shams. At

1:36:51

what point did Brad Stevens kind of

1:36:53

like, no, hey, I'm a great coach,

1:36:55

but at the same time, I

1:36:58

was kind of born to be the president

1:37:00

of basketball operations. Like Danny Ainge said that

1:37:02

when Brad first got promoted, but is there

1:37:04

any thought that he'll ever go back to

1:37:06

the bench to be a coach or will

1:37:08

he be the president of basketball operations for

1:37:11

Boston for the next, you know, 25

1:37:13

years, hopefully, and keep this thing going? Brad

1:37:16

Stevens will be there really as long as he

1:37:18

wants to keep doing the job and as long

1:37:20

as this run and this core

1:37:22

group can stay together. I mean, that's going to

1:37:24

be Brad Stevens task is continuing to build around

1:37:26

these guys. And really keep

1:37:28

this team a championship contender because they've got a

1:37:30

window here. When you think about it, we thought

1:37:32

Denver might've had a window, but some of those

1:37:35

guys, you know, fluctuating in play and they don't

1:37:37

have the star power that this group has. This

1:37:39

team legitimately has a window here over the next

1:37:41

three to five years to be a dynasty

1:37:43

of sorts, similar to what we saw with the Warriors.

1:37:45

They should be in the conference. They have been in the

1:37:48

conversation already, but they should be in the finals really every

1:37:50

year. Next year is going to be championship robust for

1:37:53

this team as well. For Brad Stevens, it

1:37:55

was interesting. He was so good so early in

1:37:57

his NBA coaching career. He was really looked

1:37:59

at as. a wizard. I mean there was talk

1:38:01

that he was as good as really, you

1:38:03

know, any coach that's taken, you

1:38:06

know, step foot, you know,

1:38:08

as a coach. But you saw near the end of

1:38:10

it and he spent eight years as head coach there.

1:38:12

Eight years is a really, really long time. And when

1:38:14

you don't get to the finals, when you

1:38:16

don't win at all, those eight years become challenging.

1:38:18

You can make as many conference finals appearances as

1:38:20

you want. They never made to the NBA Finals

1:38:23

with Brad Stevens. And I think it took a

1:38:25

lot of self-awareness for him to realize, hey, we

1:38:27

need to find someone else. There needs to be

1:38:29

a new voice. And he did that. And he

1:38:31

was part of hiring Emei Yudoka. Then

1:38:33

we know what happened there. And then

1:38:36

bringing Joe Mazzullo. Joe Mazzullo, Brad Stevens,

1:38:38

they've been attached. They're really

1:38:40

close. Brad Stevens is, you know, the one

1:38:42

thing you kept hearing even last year when

1:38:44

Joe Mazzullo's job was under fire at different

1:38:46

points, you kept hearing Brad Stevens supports him

1:38:48

100%. That's his guy. And we're seeing

1:38:51

it. He's got a lot of Brad in him.

1:38:53

But obviously he does things his own way. He

1:38:55

has an interesting press conference. Joe Mazzullo is his

1:38:57

own human being. Yeah, Joe Mazzullo is a dog.

1:38:59

And there's a chance he goes down when it's

1:39:02

all said and done as the greatest coach in

1:39:04

the history of basketball. And obviously

1:39:07

the people around him have a lot of belief

1:39:09

in him for good reason. And he seemingly has

1:39:11

a mindset of somebody who's never going to be

1:39:13

satisfied. So any coach that I've ever met that's

1:39:15

been worth anything is normally a never satisfied person,

1:39:18

because we got to get better tomorrow. We

1:39:20

got to win today. Yeah, you just won last

1:39:22

night though. Yeah, but tomorrow somebody else is doing

1:39:24

something. So we got to do something. And we

1:39:26

got to beat them at it. And that's just

1:39:28

like how coaches are might come across as miserable

1:39:31

for some people. But boy, after a

1:39:33

win inside what they feel, you'll

1:39:36

never ever feel. And

1:39:38

that's like the coach that's a coaching like

1:39:40

DNA and he seemingly has it and has

1:39:42

had it since West Virginia, which is awesome

1:39:44

to see. Look at that emotion. We weren't

1:39:46

seeing this emotion during the regular That's

1:39:49

the only reason he doesn't exactly they

1:39:52

have 10 minutes of happiness. Yeah. Very

1:39:55

similar to Belichick Bingo. I handle

1:39:57

saying in the post game stuff

1:39:59

like his messaging and then obviously he

1:40:01

saved for that celebration in the arena till

1:40:03

what? Three in the morning. Nobody cares. Been

1:40:05

coaching on a, on what, a Tormund Niskis

1:40:07

since March and he's off season surgery. Just

1:40:09

a dog. Yeah, and legitimately, his now has

1:40:11

a resume. They were like, cause there's a

1:40:14

lot of people, I saw some

1:40:16

people, not a lot of people, but some

1:40:18

people say, hey, Joe Mazzola, you're not Bill

1:40:20

Belichick, okay? Bill Belichick has eight rings, okay?

1:40:22

You have, you're the youngest coach to make

1:40:24

the NBA finals. You can't just act like

1:40:26

Bill Belichick in your press conferences. That's not

1:40:28

how this works. That is not how

1:40:30

we feel. I do not feel that

1:40:32

way. I love Bill Belichick's press conferences. I love however

1:40:34

the hell anybody wants to handle their press conferences, but

1:40:36

people are saying, now he's the youngest coach to ever

1:40:39

win a title since 1969. It's

1:40:41

like, he can do whatever the hell he wants

1:40:43

because he has already shown that he's successful. Joe

1:40:45

Mazzola, Bill Russell, not a bad category to be

1:40:47

in. Not a bad category. Congrats, Joe. Hell yeah,

1:40:50

Joe. Congrats, Joe. Now, who's another coach that can

1:40:52

maybe fall in there? Go ahead, AJ. Yeah,

1:40:55

Sean, speaking of coaches, J.J. Riddick, looks like

1:40:57

the deal is final in LA, so

1:40:59

congrats to you. Sounds like you were correct

1:41:01

the whole time, yeah. Wow. The

1:41:04

deal looked like that, Sean. We saw it on the

1:41:06

internet. Yeah, it feels like it. And J.Will. Oh, he

1:41:08

had a similar deal that they offered Hurley. Like, what's

1:41:10

the money like? Do you have any idea? And J.J.Will

1:41:12

also said this morning on GitHub, I believe. Yep. He

1:41:15

said, yeah, go ahead. There's not an agreement

1:41:17

as far as I know for J.J.Riddick as

1:41:20

of right now. We're speaking right now at

1:41:22

almost 1.45 p.m. Eastern time. We're

1:41:26

doing it. So, J.J.Riddick went in

1:41:29

to LA on Saturday and had

1:41:31

in-person meetings, multiple hours with Lakers,

1:41:33

with the Lakers brass, with Rob

1:41:35

Polinka, the general manager, vice president

1:41:38

of basketball operations, ownership as well.

1:41:40

I'm told his meetings on Saturday

1:41:42

were very impressive. All the characteristics

1:41:45

you see in J.J.Riddick that you could

1:41:47

envision in J.J.Riddick, those all

1:41:49

shine there. Of course, we don't know exactly what

1:41:51

kind of coach he's going to be until he's in

1:41:53

that seat. When you deal with adversity, when you deal

1:41:55

with losing three games in Five Nights, when you deal

1:41:58

with a player, when you deal with a- There's

1:42:00

things that come about, you guys all played, you

1:42:03

guys have been a part of it, we've covered

1:42:05

it as well. There's always issues that come up.

1:42:07

How will JJ Reddick, how would he handle that

1:42:09

when he's in that situation? But listen,

1:42:12

as far as where his situation and where

1:42:14

he stands in this process, I

1:42:16

said it May 24th, I said June 4th, and

1:42:21

his status as a front runner to be

1:42:23

the next Lakers coach has not changed since

1:42:26

those dates, it has not changed now. I

1:42:28

think what the Lakers are doing now, Rob Plink

1:42:31

and that group is doing now is taking the

1:42:33

next few days after the NBA Finals, now that

1:42:35

JJ Reddick is done with his finals duties, and

1:42:38

now finally get to making a decision

1:42:40

and getting to it as far

1:42:42

as head coach. They do want to have their head

1:42:44

coach in place by the draft. The draft is next

1:42:46

week. So last thing you want

1:42:48

to do is be going to a coaching hire on

1:42:51

draft week. So time is of the essence for the

1:42:53

Lakers. Time is of the

1:42:55

essence and obviously for a while now we've been

1:42:58

talking about JJ Reddick becoming the Lakers head coach.

1:43:00

And then I wonder if he

1:43:02

was just talking to Plinka, he was just pulling

1:43:04

up clips from Mind the Game. Oh

1:43:06

yeah. Just like I said, the

1:43:09

question you're asking here is how would I run against

1:43:11

this defensive run, whatever. We

1:43:13

actually got a clip for you here and I'm talking,

1:43:16

talking to LeBron, he just runs it like that's his

1:43:18

pitch deck. This is exactly what I would do and

1:43:20

they 100% watch that podcast,

1:43:22

right? Whenever Lakers front office people, when they're

1:43:24

wondering if JJ Reddick could be a head

1:43:27

coach because I would assume, and this is

1:43:29

me just taking a guess for our guy

1:43:32

that's a former player. Now he's getting into coaching when he was

1:43:34

on teams for a very long time. I think he made the

1:43:36

playoffs for, I forget how many years straight. Like 13

1:43:38

straight years. He was on teams at one. I assume

1:43:40

he was looked at as a

1:43:43

player coach, like a, you know, I assume that

1:43:45

a lot of leadership shit on those. Particularly the

1:43:47

teams, just the way he handles himself and now

1:43:49

he's getting into coaching. So I assume he thinks

1:43:51

he's a lot more experienced than people think he

1:43:53

is because of what he's been able to do

1:43:56

as a player out there. But like him

1:43:58

going, he has to win immediately. Yeah, yeah, right.

1:44:00

That's what has to happen in one of the

1:44:02

stars of that team is gonna go

1:44:05

down as one of the top two Greatest

1:44:07

players of all time and now he has a

1:44:09

massive question We're gonna D and obviously we're talking

1:44:11

about that like it's an interview process LeBron

1:44:14

allegedly was spotted sitting down with

1:44:16

Nick nurse. They were Maury Josh

1:44:18

Harris I've seen those guys

1:44:20

some big wigs in Philly any chance any

1:44:23

chance brawn leaves LA is upcoming

1:44:26

offseason. I Cannot

1:44:28

confirm that picture. What are you talking about?

1:44:30

We can see it right there shops put

1:44:32

the picture back That's

1:44:34

LeBron 68

1:44:37

I can't confirm the validity of that

1:44:39

picture But what do you mean? What

1:44:44

are you talking about validity? What does that mean? I

1:44:48

Made it listen. I haven't gotten any sense other

1:44:50

than you know LeBron James and

1:44:52

the Lakers The Lakers

1:44:54

want to give him any contract really in order

1:44:56

to keep him. I think

1:44:58

I think there is a All

1:45:02

right, okay, that's what you're saying right now that's

1:45:04

how we need to view this is this a

1:45:06

potential fake This is a food gaze potential We're

1:45:09

gonna look into it. We're gonna look into it Never

1:45:15

we never know what's real what is it real?

1:45:17

But obviously this would be a massive ordeal Would

1:45:19

it not be if it was taking place and

1:45:21

are these meetings taking place for LeBron because we

1:45:23

all see me This would

1:45:25

be massive massive massive levels

1:45:28

of tampering if this if

1:45:30

if this were real But we're gonna look into it.

1:45:33

We're gonna look into it I mean listen for the

1:45:35

Lakers they have wanted to bring LeBron James back I

1:45:37

think there's been an interest with him as far as

1:45:39

you know being in LA This is where he he's

1:45:41

been the last few years And

1:45:44

obviously he's got up to two. We've said it here

1:45:46

He's got up to two more NBA seasons one to

1:45:48

two more NBA seasons left. Does

1:45:50

he relocate what happens with his future?

1:45:53

We'll see his player option is on June 29th

1:45:56

the good thing for LeBron James He's gonna know

1:45:58

exactly where his son Brian E James going

1:46:00

to be before then. And I do think his

1:46:02

play option decision will go up until the 29th.

1:46:04

The draft is next week, Wednesday and Thursday. We'll

1:46:06

know exactly where Bronny James goes. Does he go

1:46:08

to the Suns in the first round or the

1:46:10

second round? Does he go to the Lakers in

1:46:13

the second round? We're going to know that answer

1:46:15

before LeBron James has a thought in his future.

1:46:17

And it's hard not to say if the Lakers

1:46:20

draft Bronny James. Is that a tip in their

1:46:22

cap? Does that help them out in

1:46:24

terms of inciting and wanting LeBron

1:46:27

to be there? And I think

1:46:29

him and JJ Rettick, it would

1:46:32

be really negligent for us to sit here and

1:46:34

say that if you're the Lakers, if you're anyone

1:46:36

that's looked into JJ Rettick as a head coaching

1:46:38

candidate, that you're not looking at his podcast with

1:46:40

LeBron James, the way he's able to break the

1:46:42

game down. And when you talk about him as

1:46:44

a player, he's a basketball genius and he's a

1:46:46

hoop junkie. He loves to talk about hoop. And

1:46:48

I think those are qualities that you need to

1:46:50

have because when you're a head coach in the

1:46:53

NBA, Pat, your work ethic, you

1:46:55

have your title is this job does not end.

1:46:57

And if JJ Rettick understands that if he knows

1:46:59

that he's built for it, I think he would

1:47:01

be built for that challenge. And then

1:47:04

he has to want to coach really badly. And from

1:47:06

what I'm told he does. Okay, so all indications

1:47:09

are that JJ Rettick, just

1:47:12

like you said, what like during

1:47:14

the playoffs, wait, wait, wait, will you

1:47:16

shut up? Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. So

1:47:18

just like we thought it would, though,

1:47:20

the playoffs ending and him calling like

1:47:23

felt like it would be a situation

1:47:25

where maybe distraction but then now that

1:47:27

it's over, feels like all roads lead

1:47:29

to JJ Rettick being the Lakers head

1:47:31

coach, which is obviously LeBron James co-host

1:47:33

in that podcast. And then if they

1:47:35

were to draft Ronnie as well, remember,

1:47:37

they said that LeBron James is not

1:47:39

a part of the hiring process. No,

1:47:42

he's not. And we all thought that was stupid

1:47:44

if that was true. But also we know that's

1:47:46

probably not true in this entire

1:47:48

thing. It's like, all right, here we go.

1:47:50

They need to stay clear from this process.

1:47:52

Of course he has. Yes. But if they

1:47:54

hire his podcast host and draft his son,

1:47:56

yeah, that was the big thing

1:48:00

for the Lakers and for JJ Riddick potentially

1:48:02

as head coach would be Anthony Davis and

1:48:04

his involvement because there were there were plays

1:48:06

down the stretch of the game in the

1:48:08

playoffs last year in the regular season where

1:48:11

you saw Anthony Davis his touches wouldn't be

1:48:13

there in the fourth quarter so that's why

1:48:15

you hear a name like James Brega they

1:48:17

clapped in New Orleans they had the relationship

1:48:19

from New Orleans and James Brega being an

1:48:21

offensive-minded coach being able to prioritize Anthony Davis

1:48:24

but if Anthony Davis and JJ Riddick can

1:48:26

get aligned on that can get aligned on

1:48:28

the offensive side of the ball I think

1:48:30

that only bodes even even better for JJ

1:48:32

Riddick because this hire is not for next

1:48:34

season or the next two years this hires

1:48:36

for four or five years Anthony Davis will

1:48:38

be a Laker if he wants to be

1:48:41

longer than LeBron James has left in

1:48:43

a Laker uniform. Okay all eyes are

1:48:45

on all the drama around the court

1:48:47

for the next few months as the

1:48:50

NBA offseason officially launched today after the

1:48:52

Celtics win their 18th NBA title we

1:48:54

can't thank you enough for joining us

1:48:57

all season long shams you crushed it

1:48:59

man you crushed it now don't sleep

1:49:01

though because we need these breaking news

1:49:03

the second it happens you're the man

1:49:06

ladies and gentlemen Shamsiran. That

1:49:10

baby Shamsi JJ

1:49:12

Riddick. Why won't he confirm it why won't

1:49:14

he just say okay yeah it's happening I

1:49:16

would assume it's because there isn't like a

1:49:18

deal done he's one of those what are

1:49:20

they called Oh journalists that's how they are

1:49:22

now granted journalists obviously never get

1:49:24

anything wrong that is they probably

1:49:26

agreed to terms by now it sounds like for

1:49:28

sure yeah and like you whenever it was made

1:49:31

so public what they offered coach Hurley

1:49:33

you asked the right question they're like how much is

1:49:35

he is that just okay that's the deal then that's

1:49:37

what we're doing like that's what I

1:49:39

would be right or JJ's like hey give me give me a

1:49:41

couple bucks more than you offer that guy yeah so you know

1:49:44

I play but they can't offer anything less

1:49:46

than that reported offer though right hmm

1:49:50

I bet dude I offer a must when I say

1:49:52

this yeah like it sounds crazy because how much respect

1:49:54

I have for coach Dan Hurley but as soon as

1:49:56

that money gets made public all of a

1:49:58

sudden you know how much money they were willing to spend on a coach.

1:50:00

Yeah. And it's like if they're really if you're

1:50:02

really the guy that they want to be the

1:50:04

coach like okay, I know that you allotted for

1:50:06

this amount of money like that would be that'd

1:50:08

be tough for me not to be like, well,

1:50:10

that's the deal. Sure. Anybody else want to hire

1:50:12

JJ? Oh, that's something

1:50:14

he needs to drum up some other interests from other teams to

1:50:16

say hey, you need to give me more than you offer. That's

1:50:20

gonna be tough with where the coaches whatever the case

1:50:22

maybe seems to have all the cards, which is a

1:50:24

fantastic thing. We'll be back tomorrow. Are the Panthers gonna

1:50:26

be Stanley Cup champions or do we have a game

1:50:28

six in the NHL, which we're all pulling for be

1:50:31

a friend, tell friends something nice. It might change your

1:50:33

life like our friends at dude wipes. Nice.

1:50:37

Right there. Dinger. It's

1:50:40

like you won an NBA championship. Well, you shot

1:50:42

Casey. Thank you. I did do a little shot

1:50:44

Casey with the leg leg. Yeah. Boom.

1:50:47

I should have hit that toilet paper out there. Dude,

1:50:50

I'm says the best. How about them just

1:50:52

sponsoring the road to TST? Yeah, incredible. Just being

1:50:54

like, yeah, sure. But dude wipes

1:50:56

on their shorts. Yeah. You see that AJ that

1:51:00

somebody it was a Gordo Gordo. Gordo celebration. He

1:51:02

wiped it. He wiped the dude. Why tell you

1:51:04

the tournament? Yeah, Gordo really want one to the

1:51:08

john there. Yeah, that was awesome. Just

1:51:11

the the composure to be like, dude,

1:51:13

like I'm wiping my ass. Yeah. Yeah.

1:51:16

Gordo is a weapon. One of

1:51:18

one. Yeah, one of each

1:51:20

individual arena boy is

1:51:23

one of one. It's a it's a

1:51:26

phenomenal thing. I

1:51:28

don't know gamers. They're gamers, man. Absolute

1:51:30

gamers. It was fun to watch like

1:51:32

old school throwback guys. They

1:51:34

really were. It did feel like we took it to

1:51:37

her back in time. met some guys. Love

1:51:39

soccer. Obviously super competitive. We'll do this

1:51:41

every day. But like, yeah,

1:51:43

we're definitely celebrating what just happened. Like hell yeah, we

1:51:45

are. Yeah, this is what you're supposed to. This is

1:51:48

why you lift all of them. That's right. Like I've

1:51:50

never lived in the way of my life. Actually, that

1:51:52

is. Well, you know what I mean. It's played. Kick

1:51:54

all them both. Yeah, dude. What's awesome that we appreciate

1:51:56

your dude, wife saying if you haven't gone on board,

1:51:58

get on board with the Not bad for

1:52:01

your ass. Bingo. Whoa. Whoa.

1:52:04

Whoa. How

1:52:08

about the, how about

1:52:11

that photo from Total Pro Sports, I believe,

1:52:13

is the tweet that sent in that surveillance

1:52:15

footage, seemingly, of LeBron with that meeting. And how

1:52:17

much I'm saying, I've never seen that, but that

1:52:20

would be a massive, that

1:52:22

would be a massive tampering situation. We will look

1:52:24

into that. Total Pro Sports, which has broken news

1:52:26

before. So this is, you know, it's not like

1:52:29

LeBron, Josh Ayers, they're more, and I don't know how

1:52:31

they could tell that from the quality of the photo.

1:52:34

I guess you could just make a lot of assumptions

1:52:36

there, but Sean Strong, he said,

1:52:38

if this is real, this is a big deal.

1:52:40

Yeah, this is tampering. It's a gold check, too.

1:52:42

Yeah, but Total Pro Sports, they're very active on

1:52:46

the old, on the old act. Maybe they were worried,

1:52:48

they would do this in privacy. They were worried about

1:52:50

tampering. They would do this in the office somewhere. You

1:52:52

would think, yeah. And if this was right

1:52:55

next to, I

1:52:57

mean, they didn't kind of have a little corner spot.

1:52:59

LeBron's so tall, though. There's no such thing as a

1:53:01

problem. What if he's just talking about Bronny, though? What

1:53:03

if he's saying, hey, you gotta take Bronny. You don't

1:53:05

worry about me. This isn't about me, I want you

1:53:07

to take Bronny. I mean, what if this isn't real

1:53:09

at all possible? But with- Well, this is three years

1:53:11

old. Bingo. Like, there's so much that

1:53:13

could potentially go into this, but I'm sure LeBron

1:53:15

would have an out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, not

1:53:17