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And welcome to our humble

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abode, the Thunderdome. On

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this, the summer times finally here is Thursday,

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June 20, 2024. This

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program starts now. Summer

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is here. It is about to

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be hot as balls throughout the entire country

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for the next few months because today is

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the summer solstice. It is the longest day

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of the year here in Indianapolis. The sun

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will literally be out until 10, 15, 10,

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30 PM. You

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could start around a golf at nine or if

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you're an indie, you can head to a concert

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that's happening in lovely Noblesville, Indiana. And now today's

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a massive day. We got a lot of sports

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to talk about. Obviously I took a trip to

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a swimming pool in a football stadium last night,

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and I can't wait to talk about it. There's

0:42

stuff going on around the NFL. Tom Brady's talking

0:44

to Colin Cowherd. They need to do

0:46

a weekly thing during the season. Hopefully

0:48

on Wednesdays, that would help us all

0:50

out. Every time they talk something magical

0:52

comes. There's storylines brewing all over the

0:54

place. There's contract disputes. There's obviously the

0:56

NHL playoffs that are still taking place.

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But today's a big day because it's

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not just the talks table here at

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Boston Connor and at Ty Schmid, Hell

1:04

Yeah USA. Amen, America Day. Feels like

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it's summertime's here. Yeah, summertime is here.

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And it's not just because one half

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of the hammer- Done. Cowboys, tone digs

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is here. Ladies and

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gentlemen, we have a special treat. Oh,

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yeah. I don't know if there's one

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human more synonymous with the season that

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is literally kicking off today than this

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guy. Ladies and

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gentlemen, guest hosting

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in the first hour today, six-time

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Grammy nominee, country

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music icon. Ladies

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and gentlemen, Kenny Chesney. Come

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on. Yeah, Kenny. Come on. Yeah.

1:48

Yeah. Woo. Yeah.

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Come on. Come on. Summertime

1:54

is finally here. Old ballpark man

1:56

is back in here. And I'm

1:59

holding out. Oh Nice

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clean dad everybody back nice Kenny

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you're a legend This

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helmet and then I walked in here and all I see

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is helmets Yeah And

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Kenny like I told you people just send shit man. You've

2:29

got a lot of stuff in here. Yeah A

2:32

lot of stuff. That's a good way to

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depict. There's a lot of there's a lot

2:37

of stuff in there Oh, yeah, there's I

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think a good way to describe our particular Businesses

2:42

one that receives a lot of shit on Kenny

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thank you for joining us Okay,

2:49

so obviously we got a chance to talk to you at the Super

2:51

Bowl right now You're in the middle

2:53

of another summer tour that is like Takes

2:55

over every city you go to now this Thursday show

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that you're doing this at an amphitheater Not

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at a stadium weekend shows always at stadiums.

3:02

You're alongside Zach Brown Megan Maroney

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uncle cracker. I do believe This

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Thursday show here you're doing Indianapolis. Was this

3:09

like an added-on show how to know we did

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was get gifted with this Thursday No,

3:13

I mean it's by design we play A

3:17

Saturday show is a stadium show So

3:20

like a Thursday night is like an outdoor

3:22

amphitheater Mm-hmm, and then we have like tonight

3:24

after the show like we will fly out

3:26

and we'll go We play the

3:28

Brewers baseball stadium. Oh nice night. Damn. So we'll

3:30

go up there have a day

3:32

off and Do sound check

3:35

on a Friday and then we play Saturday night.

3:37

So it's basically every

3:39

week of My

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summer is just like that. Okay, and you

3:44

earn that you know, like obviously a lot

3:46

of travel A lot of

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juice on energy in shape jacked But

3:54

you are like the voice of the summer obviously

3:56

Jimmy Buffett in the past has gone and been

3:58

in the air Okay, so

4:00

I assume you guys got along very well because you

4:02

two are kind of synonymous with the shows in the

4:05

summertime. Yeah, we got along. Jimmy and I were really

4:07

good friends and he was, you know,

4:09

like we all have our heroes, you know, that we look

4:11

up to, you know, and Jimmy was one of the first

4:13

guys that taught me it was possible to

4:16

paint pictures with words, you will. You know what

4:18

I mean? He was a great songwriter and when

4:21

I was a kid, I mean, I would just

4:23

listen to that music and it would just take

4:25

my brain to different places, you know,

4:27

and he was one of the first guys that told

4:29

me that taught me that was possible. Your vibes are

4:32

very, you know, but there's some deep shit in

4:34

some of your songs though. Like get along, we're

4:36

listening to get along and obviously you're telling multiple

4:38

stories there, but there's like a deep life meaning

4:40

in that entire thing. How do you balance mixing

4:42

the, I don't wanna say shallow, but you know,

4:45

flip-flop, you do on the floor and then

4:47

like, hey, here's a life message. Yeah, I

4:50

can tell you that it's, I

4:52

edit myself to a fault sometimes, cause

4:55

sometimes I do wanna sing and

4:57

say certain things that

4:59

you might not say in a

5:01

football stadium, full of people. You

5:04

know what I mean? So I edit myself,

5:06

especially in my live show, like,

5:09

okay, like next week or wherever

5:11

it is, like on July, we're

5:14

talking about it, we play the

5:16

chief stadium arrowhead on

5:18

July 6th after the 4th. And

5:20

I'll do certain songs in there that

5:23

I won't do tonight in indie cause it's just

5:25

a different audience, a different thing, you know, so.

5:28

Yeah, but you have such a discography. Yeah, I believe

5:30

it's the thing you have. Well, but you learn, you

5:33

learn what works and different, and you know, you

5:35

gotta learn to read the room. You never got

5:37

booed off the stage, I die. Not booed, but.

5:40

Crowds always say, we made this graphic here

5:42

of, you know, Kenny Chesney football.

5:45

Yeah, Kenny Chesney football. Okay, there's Kenny

5:47

Chesney football here. The number ones on

5:49

the side are like four albums worth,

5:51

or three albums, depending upon the modern album, people

5:53

are putting out five song albums right now. Six

5:55

song albums, which I assume you hate and all

5:57

the old school music people hate. But like the.

5:59

the amount of things that you've accomplished, the amount

6:01

of songs that you have, you could technically, and

6:03

it's just like Taylor Swift, which I know, obviously,

6:06

Masterpiece, like each show can almost

6:08

be its own album at this point. And you

6:10

could just put out number one's live. Oh, wow.

6:13

Yeah, like there is, yeah, yeah. Way

6:17

to go, you're talking about it. But

6:19

how do you go about piecing together what the set

6:21

list looks like? And how come nobody plays the

6:24

banger at the front and at the

6:26

back? Please. Right? Yes,

6:28

I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Someone listens to one

6:30

song a billion times, he can play it twice. That

6:33

is something that never gets me. Well, I used to do that

6:35

before I had all those songs. Like

6:38

we did that out of necessity. But

6:41

putting together today's show, we

6:45

try really hard to give like- It's gonna be hot

6:47

as shit, Kenny. Yeah, I know. They're saying

6:50

like 92 at nine, 10 o'clock. You're allowed to bring

6:52

water, and they said that. So we're good. Yeah, you're allowed

6:54

to bring two bottles of water, which is cool. Will

6:56

you fluctuate the songs due to the heat? Like

7:00

I have this, it's just like that,

7:02

okay? So I can hit

7:05

my foot on that button and I can talk

7:07

to just the band and just the crew. The

7:09

audience doesn't hear. You know, I

7:11

can say, okay, we're gonna skip this song or we're

7:13

gonna add this song or look at the hot girl

7:15

in the third row. You know what I mean? That's

7:18

the way it is, you know? So we're just like-

7:20

Yeah, we have that as well. Yeah, we have that

7:22

as well. So it's just like that. So we

7:24

will audible, if you will, like in real

7:27

time. And if it's really hot, like the

7:29

other night in St. Louis, it was really

7:31

hot and it was lightning. We had to

7:34

pause the show for an hour. And

7:36

then we had to go back out and play. It

7:38

was really hard, you know? But tonight,

7:41

it'll be awesome. Yeah,

7:43

and- Indie crowds are always good too. Oh

7:45

yeah. You tell us, but Indiana- Oh, I've

7:47

played this place so many times. And then

7:49

I played the football stadium a couple of

7:51

times. And then it just,

7:53

every year is different. So- Let's

7:55

talk about the football stadium. Okay. The person that

7:58

built that alongside a group of

8:00

great colt- introduce Indianapolis to football

8:02

and the one with the biggest forehead now has

8:05

a statue up front. Okay. And Peyton Manning. Yeah.

8:07

I know obviously you and Peyton Manning have ties.

8:09

Yeah. And you have ties to Tennessee. Tennessee's in

8:11

the college. That's right. They are. Let's go. Go.

8:13

Pay attention. How do we feel about this? We'll

8:15

walk the top back into championship conversation. Yeah. And

8:18

I don't know that Tennessee's won a championship in

8:20

any sport in a while. It's

8:22

been a while. Yeah. I know in football, they haven't in

8:24

a while and a long time. SEC is tough right now.

8:26

Tough. Yeah. How do you feel about the state of college

8:28

sports? Do you pay attention enough to know?

8:30

Cuz there's a lot

8:32

of southerners there. I will say that I'm very

8:34

pissed and for good reason because what college football

8:37

and college sports is in the south. It no

8:39

not just used to be but in the south,

8:42

it's like their blood like this way of life.

8:44

I don't say like a religion cuz obviously college

8:46

and everything like that but it is like very

8:48

different than how it's viewed in a lot of

8:51

other parts of the country and I think right

8:53

south is the most pissed potentially about the future

8:55

of college football more specifically. Yeah. Um II am

8:57

I'm still gonna watch it. Big

9:00

go right. Exactly II don't care if they're

9:04

getting paid. I'm I'm glad they're getting paid.

9:06

Conference realignment, Texas, Oklahoma. I know. Yeah, it

9:08

seems weird. I don't know. I mean

9:10

like it's just I don't know. Is

9:12

it all just gonna be the SEC one day? I

9:14

don't know. So allegedly, it's gonna be now north.

9:17

Yeah. Yeah. And then

9:20

south. Yeah. SEC and I think that is

9:22

I think everybody kinda sees

9:25

it possibly happening but like the big twelve

9:27

obviously fighting like hell for that not to

9:29

take place. Right. And that's West Virginia's uh

9:31

obviously conference that running wild through that. I

9:33

guess I'm still gonna watch. I mean like

9:35

I I still love the sport. I mean

9:37

II grew up watching um college football with

9:40

my father and I grew up in Knoxville.

9:42

So we didn't have a pro allegiance to

9:44

anything. I mean if we wanted to

9:46

watch baseball, we had to go to Atlanta or Cincinnati.

9:48

You know, we didn't have

9:50

a pro football allegiance. You know, it's all

9:52

Tennessee football. So I'm still gonna watch Tennessee

9:54

play football. I don't care how much it

9:56

all changes. Well, you guys down in Tennessee

9:58

are the most dedicated. fans in

10:00

the entire college football world highest price

10:03

per beer Supply

10:16

demand right there. Yeah. Oh, that's a fun.

10:19

It's a fun place to go watch

10:21

a football game. You ever play there Yes,

10:23

it was a Niela Stadium in Knoxville

10:25

was the first stadium show I ever did.

10:27

It was 2003 how

10:29

many people? Close to

10:32

it was 50 something thousand people there. You see what

10:34

George obviously just saw what George straight? It's the same

10:36

101,000 850 I think played

10:40

in the middle, you know, so

10:42

so it's with a it's Unbelievable

10:45

really I saw pictures of that and

10:47

I was like stunned so many people.

10:49

Yeah, and it's like It's

10:52

what George has been able to do To

10:55

sustain it's really hard, you

10:57

know, it's really hard But it just goes to

10:59

show you how powerful I mean music is do

11:01

you worry about that? Do

11:04

I worry about sustaining it? Yeah, cuz

11:06

you're selling out stadium every week I think if you

11:08

want to if like he was talking about you're in

11:10

Boston for the Tom Brady situation

11:13

In I guess the last show is normally in

11:16

Gillette or whatever. Yeah, it will be this year,

11:18

too Yeah, we always end in Gillette. Boom. He

11:20

actually said that no, she's nation, baby That

11:23

you didn't want to like kind of ruin that or

11:26

whatever But he was like talking as if you would

11:28

have just said hey We're gonna have a show in

11:30

Gillette like two weeks out you would have filled it

11:32

up You're like that everywhere that has to get that

11:34

has to be an incredible relief or a great feeling

11:36

like what is that for you? As somebody who look

11:39

at this dude everywhere you go Everywhere

11:41

you go that was soldier field last week. Yeah,

11:43

but that's a big deal for your business. Oh,

11:46

of course. I mean, but it but look Hi,

11:49

I weren't moving tickets in stadiums not a

11:51

lot of people are not alive and there's

11:53

a few yeah But I can tell you

11:55

that that's what that was built that way

11:57

like guys. I didn't wake up one day

11:59

and go, okay, I wanna go

12:02

play Gillette. It was built. I

12:04

mean, it was like, I've been doing this.

12:06

I went on the road in 93. How

12:09

old were you? What

12:12

year were 56 in 93? Holy shit, man.

12:14

No, I'm 56 now. I'm

12:16

doing pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

12:19

yeah. You're in the early 20s whenever you

12:21

started hitting the road. Are you playing like

12:23

dive bars? Oh yeah, I was playing anywhere

12:25

they let me play. And I opened for

12:27

Alabama the first year, the group Alabama. And

12:30

I was like, whoa, I said, this is like,

12:32

I was a kid and I went with my

12:34

mom and stepfather to a field in East Tennessee

12:36

to watch Alabama play. It was like a big

12:39

festival. And I was

12:41

like, God, I thought they were the Rolling Stones. You

12:43

know, it was just like the best thing ever. And

12:45

then literally 10 years later, I was

12:48

on the road with those guys. And it was

12:50

like a strange existence.

12:52

You know what I mean? Yeah, you should see how

12:54

we feel right now. You're basically all of our first

12:56

concerts. Yep. Exactly. When

12:59

he was with Rascal Flats, that was my first concert. Where? In

13:02

Pittsburgh. You're from Boston?

13:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gillette. First one with Eric Church.

13:07

You were at the Gillette, so with Eric

13:09

Church. Yeah, well, my body was there. My

13:11

brain was. Yeah, that's another question.

13:13

So we're from Pittsburgh, obviously. So whenever you go

13:15

to Pittsburgh, it is an event. They tried to

13:17

kick you out of the city. The holiday. How

13:19

many years ago? A couple years ago they did.

13:22

16 or 17 something like that? I mean, they

13:24

were just having a good time. They

13:28

should be happy we didn't do two nights. Yeah, there

13:30

you go. Which is something

13:32

you could do anywhere. And you know, you

13:34

go from dive bars in 93 to

13:37

selling out stadiums. Man, we were playing everywhere. We would

13:39

play anywhere they would let us play. And what are

13:41

you doing? You doing covers then, or you doing your

13:43

own songs? Yeah, and I would like, like you said,

13:45

like I had a one hit record and we, sometimes

13:47

we would, like we'd play like a state fair or

13:49

a bar or whatever, you know, and I was, I

13:52

would play my one hit record. And

13:54

then I would. This is the first

13:56

one that got you. The first one was a song called

13:58

She's Got It All. That was a. like the first of

14:00

us my first number one. Oh yeah. Hmm.

14:03

And. I'm a lot player. Yep. Absolutely.

14:06

That's it. That's an old one. So oldie,

14:08

but goodie. Well,

14:11

I throw that out tonight. Oh yeah. Oh

14:13

yeah. Oh my God. Don't

14:17

even, I like, I hear my voice when I. Oh,

14:19

I did the same thing. Oh, I hate me too.

14:21

Yeah. So

14:23

you can't listen to your own. I can't, I can't

14:26

even listen. So when you walked in and it was

14:28

playing. Listen, I can't listen

14:30

to you. Oh. Can't even. Bang

14:32

your dude. Bang your dude. Bang your

14:34

dude. That's good. Like when I hear

14:36

that person. I

14:41

hadn't figured out yet where my sweet, where my

14:43

sweet spot was in the studio as far as

14:45

singing. You know? So a lot of times I

14:47

would cut songs up here and I didn't really

14:50

know, you know, know that I shouldn't, but, but

14:52

I hear that like that era

14:54

of me recording music. When I

14:56

hear those songs on the radio, I go, hold

14:59

on though. Listen, we don't, without those songs, you

15:01

obviously don't get to there. So no, it's true.

15:04

Every decision is a stone on the

15:06

pathway to selling out every state. Okay.

15:08

I agree. Which is probably from one

15:10

of your songs that you sang. I can probably check. But

15:13

Morgan Wallen had a situation and

15:15

I assume you all are close in the. Yeah,

15:17

I've met Morgan several times. I'm very proud of

15:19

him. The stadiums as well. I can hear you.

15:22

He also has a sick collection of J's as

15:24

well. Just like, oh yeah. But I think a

15:26

couple, I think a couple of maybe

15:28

months ago, he signed a

15:30

deal with some record label in

15:32

Florida whenever he was young and they

15:35

recorded some songs. They never got released or whatever.

15:37

They didn't agree to have him released. And then

15:39

he leaves, I think. And then it goes on

15:41

to be who he is. And then that record

15:43

label, allegedly, I mean, this is just from reading

15:46

an Instagram post from Morgan Wallen was then going

15:48

to try to re-release those songs that he recorded.

15:50

And he basically alluded to like, I hadn't found

15:52

my sound or who I wanted to be at

15:54

this point. And he didn't, like, there's a reason

15:56

they were released. Like he was not proud of

15:59

them. And then they were trying to take advantage

16:01

of it. like that type of thing is seemingly

16:03

how I read the entire process does it happen

16:05

often whenever people make it and like How important

16:07

is yeah, you're with Warner and shout out to

16:09

yeah, Anna Four

16:14

minutes before the show starts. Yeah, I'm barter I can play

16:16

music on Sweet because

16:18

there's probably and I told you this before

16:20

he went on air There has been a southern

16:22

white to his suit me before and there's a

16:24

chance come really cool. He's really

16:27

elaborate Yeah,

16:30

he could really spin it But

16:37

we thought you know, there's change you could sue us

16:39

But then everybody your team is so incredibly cool. But

16:41

in the music world, I guess that's potentially possible at

16:43

all times Do you leave shit in like you go

16:45

in the studio record something and not release it? Oh,

16:47

yeah, all the time and then who controls that forever.

16:50

Well, I do now but there was a moment where

16:52

Yeah, cuz I own I own everything now,

16:55

but but but back before When

16:57

I was a kid, you know everything right

16:59

now everything you're gonna sell that Yeah,

17:02

so Hey,

17:05

that's genius. Yeah business genius.

17:07

Let's call control Profit

17:12

dog. Yeah, that's that. Yeah. Yeah a lot of that

17:14

congratulations. That's a big deal in the music world I

17:16

think well, you got to get there. You got to

17:18

build that too You just get like before

17:21

I when I first got started, you

17:23

know, like anybody you're not in a position to

17:25

do that You're just happy to get

17:27

the opportunity and to move forward and build your

17:29

audience So I have so

17:31

many songs that I've recorded that didn't make

17:33

the record for whatever reason you just didn't

17:35

like them Yeah, just just

17:37

I didn't like all my like the way I sounded or

17:40

it didn't fit or I had too

17:42

many ballads or this sounded too

17:44

much like this song for whatever reason and

17:46

so they just didn't make the record and If

17:50

you don't like it was just let's just say that you're

17:52

on a one record label and You don't

17:55

they they on the Masters and then

17:57

you move and to a different

18:00

They have the opportunity to really release that

18:02

stuff all they want. Yeah, and it's crazy.

18:04

It's really, and it's more

18:06

than anything, everything possible, not to let them

18:08

do that. Yeah, and I guess the music

18:10

world's also changing because the payment for songwriters

18:13

due to digital streaming and everything

18:15

like that. Cause I, Luke Combs came on

18:17

and he talked about, he's doing arenas as

18:19

well. Yeah, he's doing everything. A lot of

18:21

love, Luke. Yeah. He's great. Let's

18:24

the shit out of those cups. He's

18:26

got a lot to be playing. Oh yeah. He's

18:28

got a real, real touch, but he talked about

18:30

how the streaming era of music is obviously different

18:33

than the album selling era of music, which you're

18:35

obviously a part of in that entire thing. And

18:37

then Napster comes in and what a

18:39

time that was. Justin Timberlake was doing that. Hi.

18:42

He's like, I know, I know. Hi. Come

18:44

on, Justin. Yeah, just, you

18:46

got a driver, dude. Get boozed up, Justin.

18:49

Come on. Whatever the case. Anyway,

18:51

the streaming thing, Luke

18:55

Combs basically said like, they're getting it figured out for

18:57

the artists. Like the artists are getting it figured out.

19:00

And it'll end up being fair. That's right. But the

19:02

songwriter somehow, it's not really getting figured out. No, let's

19:04

just say those three guys wrote, I

19:06

heard you playing American kids or something, or get along, whatever

19:08

it was when I came in. Summertime. Let's

19:10

just say that they wrote it. Okay.

19:13

Congrats, boys. There we go. But you

19:15

sang the song. So you're going to

19:17

get paid. They figured out how to

19:20

pay the artists, but they just haven't figured

19:22

out how there's, well, it's

19:24

called Greed. They

19:27

haven't figured out how they're

19:29

going to share it with the songwriters yet,

19:31

which is really sucks. Which a lot of

19:34

musicians were songwriters, right? So it's like, yeah.

19:36

And obviously- I was originally a songwriter. I

19:38

mean, like I still am, but I got

19:40

started as a songwriter, but there used to

19:42

be people in the album

19:44

selling era of our

19:47

society that made a very good

19:49

living off just getting their

19:51

songs recorded and not necessarily having them

19:53

on the radio. You know, it was

19:55

called, performance royalty and a mechanical royalty.

19:58

Performance royalty is paid on what- you hear,

20:00

like if your song gets played on the

20:02

radio over and over again, you get paid

20:04

a performance royalty for that. Radio

20:06

still matters for a country music. Very much

20:08

so. Yeah, terrestrial radio still matters in my

20:10

opinion. But mechanical

20:13

royalties are album

20:15

sales. Like if you wrote a song and

20:17

it was not on the radio, but it was

20:20

just on somebody, it was on George Strait's record.

20:22

George Strait sold five million of those records. You're

20:24

gonna get paid a lot of money just from

20:26

having that song on there. But see that model

20:29

is gone. Now it's

20:31

only halfway, now it's only performing. So it's only,

20:34

so it's, so for a songwriter, it's

20:36

really changed. Well, let's figure it out

20:38

Kenny. I would love to figure it

20:40

out. Tom has a question for you Kenny. Yeah Kenny, I

20:42

mentioned how I saw you with Rascal Flats and it was

20:44

right before they took off. But right now your

20:46

tour was Zach Brown. What do you think that was? That was 2004, I looked it

20:48

up. Wow. Still

20:51

do that, that's 20 years ago, two decades.

20:53

You look younger somehow. Yeah. But now

20:55

your tour was Zach Brown, who was another headliner. And

20:57

you talked about how Jimmy was your mentor and I

21:00

think the same for Zach. How is it touring with

21:02

another headliner? Because my friends who were there in Pittsburgh

21:04

said it was like six hours of just incredible music.

21:06

How does that work out? It works

21:08

out great. Zach toured with us in 2011 also.

21:13

And then it's crazy to think that here we are

21:15

13 years later and still at a place where we

21:17

still get to have music in our

21:20

lives and give music to the world.

21:22

And so, but Zach, he

21:24

should get, he doesn't have

21:26

to be here, but

21:29

he agreed to do it to go

21:31

out with us. And for the fans,

21:33

if you just wrap your brain around all

21:35

the music that you hear, and Megan's brand

21:38

new and doing really well. And if

21:40

it was 2004, we might've had Uncle Crocker

21:42

out there with us too. Yeah, I'd say he's still.

21:44

So he was, that's right when the sun goes down,

21:47

came out. So he's back out

21:49

there with us. So it's

21:51

crazy, the amount of music that people get to

21:53

hear is a

21:55

good, it is, it's about a six

21:57

hour nonstop of. Who's the incredible. I

22:00

mean, he is. Tim McGraw, like we've

22:02

seen what his day looks like. He'll like

22:04

run the Hill at the amphitheater. And then

22:06

he's flipping tires. I think he's swinging. Do

22:08

you have like a daily routine? Obviously you

22:10

just stopped by our show. They think. Yeah,

22:13

I, I, I how do you not get boozed up every

22:15

day? Yes. Good question. I

22:17

mean, he's a great guy. I mean, he's a great guy. I

22:19

mean, he's a great guy. I mean, he's a great guy. I

22:21

mean, he's a great guy. I mean, he's a great guy. He's

22:23

a great guy. I mean, he's a great guy. I mean, he's

22:25

a great guy. He's a great guy. Yes. Good

22:29

question. Well, I'm bringing the

22:31

party to everybody's life. Yeah. But I can't

22:33

do that boozed up. That

22:36

Zach told us that too. Zach Brown gave us like a big, like

22:38

nobody. So I used to, I used to

22:40

like, I used

22:42

to try to live with the fans and

22:44

act. You just, I don't know. It

22:47

was, it was, our life is much different out here now than it

22:49

was in 2004 and 2004. I

22:52

mean, it was a, it was a

22:54

barrel of fun. Right?

22:56

Yeah. But there was this

22:59

moment where I had to make a decision. Okay.

23:02

Am I going to do this or am

23:04

I going to do this? And

23:06

I got to a point in my life where I

23:08

couldn't do both. Like this year we're going

23:11

to do Gillette. We're going to play three nights at Gillette to

23:13

end the year. So there

23:15

won't be any partying for Kenny to get

23:17

through three nights. Yeah. You

23:19

see what I mean? So I have, I have like,

23:22

if you guys ever come to the show, I got

23:24

a, I got a, a two person sauna and an

23:26

ice tub outside my bus. So

23:28

it's changed a lot since 2004. Human

23:31

knowledge of all that stuff has changed. Yes. Right.

23:35

Exactly. But I haven't had, I haven't

23:37

had alcohol since January 1st. Congratulations.

23:40

Wow. On purpose, obviously

23:42

this is well, when I start to train to

23:44

go on the road, you know,

23:46

I'm sitting there. Okay. The

23:48

first week of January and I'm trying to emotionally

23:50

and mentally think about what it takes of me

23:53

to be up there. And I said, okay, I'm

23:55

not going to drink for a while. I'm going

23:57

to get really lean and I'm, and I measure

23:59

my food and just. get ready, cardio as it

24:01

was. Yeah, I'm just working on it. But

24:05

then it just happened. I just, all of a

24:07

sudden it's almost July. So,

24:09

I don't know, it's not that I'm quitting, it's just that I

24:12

realized for me to go

24:16

up there on stage and do what I do

24:18

now at this point in my life,

24:20

I just don't want them to get all

24:22

of me. I want them to get the best of

24:25

me. Okay. Right? Yes. And I can't do

24:27

that hungover. How about do you

24:29

smoke any marijuana? Never. Never in your life.

24:31

Never. Well, college. Okay.

24:34

It's not a part of my life. Yeah, but that weed back

24:36

then. I had fun on these Trinity State. I

24:38

had a good time. Yeah,

24:41

you guys are cutting bushes down outside, smoking

24:43

it up, rolling it up. That's great to

24:45

hear about how like, because

24:48

you're treating it like a profession now. You know,

24:50

like that, that seems to be the difference. I

24:52

have to do the same thing. I got arrested

24:54

for a public intoxication. Alleged story, definitely drunk in

24:56

public. And then it kind of just changed my

24:58

entire viewpoint. Like, Hey, you could throw this

25:00

all away right now, or you can like lock in. A lot

25:02

of people can't make that decision. Yeah. So

25:05

you do not know. I'm not saying I'm going to, you know, look, I

25:07

love going, getting on a boat in the islands

25:09

too much to not have a cold beer. No, no, absolutely.

25:11

Me too. Yeah. Me too.

25:14

But I've decided that when I'm working, that it's just

25:16

not, doesn't serve me like it. Yeah.

25:18

Ty has a question for you, Kenny. Yeah, Kenny,

25:20

I assume it's easier because your catalog is so

25:23

long and so deep, but when you've been doing

25:25

this for as long as you have, how

25:28

do you maintain the competitive stamina of like, Hey, I'm going to have

25:30

to, like I'm obviously the set list

25:32

changes a little bit. I'm playing a lot of

25:34

the same songs over and over and over again.

25:36

Like, how do you still find joy in that

25:38

when you're doing it so often? And are there

25:41

certain songs where you're like, Hey, never

25:43

again. Like I'm never saying there

25:45

was several songs. Like we

25:47

don't do, she thinks my tractor is sexy this

25:49

year. Oh, and, and, oh, it's

25:51

so good. I got, we'll say it's

25:54

so, me think of my to know

25:57

why wasn't good by now through my

25:59

through your It doesn't turn. It

26:01

turns her around. No. Okay,

26:03

so. She's always standing there,

26:05

and at me. Maybe

26:09

we'll do it tonight. I

26:12

did, I'm not sure if it was

26:14

Anderson Cooper's first segment

26:16

of 60 Minutes ever, but I was

26:19

one of the first. I did a

26:21

segment on 60 Minutes on CBS. Journalist.

26:24

So, so he asked me, he

26:26

goes, well, you know, here's Anderson from New York, you

26:28

know, and he goes, so he goes, tell

26:30

me about, she thinks my tractor is sexy. Right?

26:34

I'm thinking he, he does not relate at all.

26:37

You know, like, yeah. So, but I said

26:39

I was smart enough to record that song. And I

26:41

said, I was smart enough to never record another one.

26:43

It's because you can get away with it. Well,

26:46

you can get away with it once. And then

26:48

you can't do have everything be that way. Right?

26:50

So, but, but the answer to your question is

26:52

true though. If it runs like a deer. Yeah.

26:56

Yeah. You know what I think? Eyes

26:58

light up. I'm telling you, I got, I got

27:00

so sick singing it. We

27:04

may throw it out every now and then. Hey,

27:07

listen, don't let Anderson Cooper or

27:09

these journalists decide what you're

27:11

singing out. I didn't

27:13

stop singing it, but because of him, it was just, I

27:15

remissed, this was 20 years ago and you

27:17

can just tell that Anderson

27:20

didn't really understand it. Oh buddy. You

27:22

should hear what they say about us. Connor's got

27:24

a question for you. Kenny, it feels like right

27:27

now there is like this kind of boom in

27:29

country music from other artists and genres. Like Beyonce

27:31

came out with an album and right now like

27:33

Post Malone is doing songs with, he did one

27:36

with Morgan. Who I think is great. Doing one

27:38

with Blake. Why don't you get on? Why don't

27:40

you get on? You need to post and you

27:42

need to. Maybe. But yeah. No,

27:45

no, no, actually though, like have other artists reached out

27:47

from different genres? Like, Hey, how do I get into

27:49

country music? Yeah, a couple. I mean, I

27:51

did a song with Dave Matthews several

27:53

years ago when I did. You too, with

27:55

the amount of money you've made off of tickets. Holy

27:57

shit. That's

28:00

one of the best, like I don't go

28:02

see live acts very much because that

28:05

environment is my life. So when

28:07

I'm away from that environment, I don't want to

28:09

go back into that environment to see someone else,

28:11

but I would go see like that band. I

28:13

would see Dave Matthews and I would go see,

28:16

you know, I don't know whoever.

28:18

Boss. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah. So

28:21

I would go see Bruce Springsteen every day of

28:23

the week. You know? Big.

28:25

But. You guys that like Bruce Springsteen are

28:28

really into Bruce Springsteen. What? He's

28:30

the boss. What do you mean? Michael Cole

28:32

has been to 170 shows maybe. I think 170

28:34

shows. Michael Lombardi, I believe has

28:36

been to 100. Yeah. Yeah.

28:39

And it's, I love the, I listen. I listen

28:41

to a boss tune, but the fans

28:43

have answered. Well that was one of the first guys, like we

28:46

was talking about Jimmy earlier, like when I saw Bruce the first

28:48

time, because he growing up in East Tennessee, I

28:50

didn't understand the genius of Bruce Springsteen because

28:52

we didn't hear a lot of it, honestly.

28:54

So I was in college and I was

28:56

starting to play bars and I was for

28:58

tips. And then I realized how, how

29:00

much, how genius he was. And

29:03

then I went and saw it live. And then I went, oh

29:05

my God, this is a person that just doesn't

29:07

give a little bit of himself.

29:09

I mean, gives everything, you know? And I was

29:11

stunned. I went, that is, if I ever get

29:13

the dude, and I didn't even, didn't even know

29:15

then that my life was going to turn out

29:17

this way, right? That I was going to

29:20

be doing this for a living. Yeah. But there

29:22

was, In total voice, well,

29:24

if you ever do, you

29:26

gotta give all you can. Do

29:28

you judge yourself afterwards? Like, yeah. Oh God,

29:30

yeah. You're so mean to yourself, I bet.

29:32

Well, the last two weeks, I've been, we

29:35

did the Philadelphia Eagles football stadium two weeks ago

29:37

and I was so sick that

29:40

I had no business being up there that sick,

29:42

but I didn't want to cancel either because it

29:44

was day of, you know, and people have come,

29:47

they travel to come see you. Oh yeah. And

29:49

it was hard, man. And after that show, I

29:51

was really, really hard on myself. And then, you

29:54

know, the next week we played in St. Louis,

29:56

I was still sick. I was really, you know,

29:58

but, and Soldier Field Saturday night, I finally felt

30:00

better. But yeah, I'm hard.

30:03

I'm hard on myself. You know, I, because

30:06

if you think about it, I mean, people go through

30:08

a lot to go to your show. I

30:11

mean, they, it's just the parking and

30:13

the walking in and $13 bill, $13 beers. Yeah.

30:18

You know, that's a lot of money, you know? So when

30:20

you show up sick, it doesn't, yeah. I don't

30:22

know. It's just hard. Well, if you mailed

30:24

it in, people would be pissed off. Well, that's true. Showing

30:26

up sick is not true. I mean, you could be completely

30:28

healthy and not care. That's

30:31

worse. Yes. That's much worse. People

30:33

respect you for showing up sick and then realizing like,

30:35

oh, wow, I had no idea. That was an amazing

30:37

country. Well, it was really hard, but I'm really hard

30:39

on myself. Yeah. Well, most greats are Tom

30:41

Brady actually just gave a, an answer

30:43

to Colin cowherd about like calling people and being like, how

30:46

do I know if I did

30:48

good? Because I watch film

30:50

on myself when I played football and I'll think

30:52

that's the worst football player on earth. Why is

30:54

that guy in there? He said, I assume I'm

30:57

going to do the same thing for me calling

30:59

games. And it's like everybody that is their harshest

31:01

self-critic is normally the people that can make it.

31:03

You know, that you have kind of have to

31:05

have that filter on yourself. Back to Connor's question

31:07

though, has there been any current

31:09

reach out from any other? Cause you, you make

31:11

hits. I mean, we just saw the, if we

31:13

can put that graphic back up, you make bangers,

31:16

which I think is at what everybody is trying

31:18

to do from all these different genres that

31:20

are getting that many number ones, you would assume that somebody

31:22

would be like, and how would that work? They'd reach out to

31:24

Warner and they'd say, Hey, I want to work with Kenny.

31:26

Maybe I, or just me

31:28

personally or whatever. So let's say I want to put

31:31

out a banger, maybe this fall. Yeah. Let's

31:33

say I want to, I have a couple

31:35

songs out. I have a couple songs. Yeah.

31:37

I have a, IPIP. To

31:40

see it's bad. I

31:43

mean, that is a whole, we should not get into that

31:45

right now. But it was banger. It was one of the

31:47

songs. It was absolutely banger. But let's say somebody who was

31:49

an actual musician, they just reached like Post Malone right now.

31:51

He's friends with Blake Schone. He reaches out to Blake Schone.

31:53

I wanted to do a country song. And then they just

31:55

get together and they start working on it. And then they

31:57

can just do that. I assume with the business of it

31:59

all. there's so much more shit to it.

32:02

There is, it can be that simple

32:04

sometimes. Like if it's the label,

32:06

if it's two different record labels trying to manipulate

32:08

something to happen, that's always harder. So

32:11

for me, like I would, I'm

32:13

not against singing with anybody if the song

32:15

is there. Like that's, I

32:18

don't necessarily do duets

32:21

or collaborations for the sake of doing them.

32:23

Some people do just so they can get

32:25

more award nominations and stuff. Yeah, you know

32:27

what I mean? But if the song

32:29

is really great, then that always

32:31

helps, you know? And, You

32:34

and Tequila. Yeah, well, the thing about You and

32:36

Tequila was I already had that song recorded, but I didn't

32:38

know the voice that I wanted to be on it. And

32:41

because I didn't want it to be just, not

32:46

that there's anything wrong with it, but I didn't want

32:48

it to be just a country artist that would be

32:50

expected, right? So

32:52

I found, I was listening, I was at my house

32:54

in the Virgin Islands and I heard this girl named

32:56

Grace Potter sing. And I was going, wow, she was

32:58

from New England. Oh yeah, of course. And

33:00

from Burlington, Vermont. And I heard her sing and

33:02

I was like, that's it. That's the voice. So

33:06

I reached out and three days later,

33:08

Grace was in Nashville singing on You and

33:10

Tequila. That's amazing. We got a banger. When

33:12

it happens that way, it's really authentic and

33:15

really great. But when it's put

33:17

together, it can sometimes be different.

33:19

To pivot away from that to a different

33:22

conversation. There's a Super

33:24

Bowl champion music artist, and I'm

33:26

not a sensation now. Her name's Taylor Swift. She

33:29

won a Super Bowl with Can't See Chief. That's right.

33:31

She was at the party. There

33:35

are rings ceremony, but she had another job obviously

33:37

selling out stadiums in Liverpool and everything like that.

33:39

So she couldn't be there. But obviously you were

33:41

a big part of the entire process. And obviously

33:43

you've seen her since she was a teenager

33:45

into what she has become now, which is the

33:47

most famous human on earth and

33:50

able to sell out a stadium anywhere.

33:53

Multiple. She's ending this tour, I guess

33:55

in December, but if she wanted to, she could run it for

33:57

the next 40 years selling out stadium.

34:01

other musicians, how do they view Taylor

34:03

Swift? What is the conversation about her

34:05

business and everything like that? Is everybody

34:07

trying to emulate that? Does everybody know

34:09

that's an anomaly? What is the kind

34:11

of thought process? I don't know. I

34:13

think that it's, for those

34:15

that know her, like I do, you know

34:17

that the work that went into it,

34:20

you know, it's easy to look at it all and

34:22

go, oh wow, this is unbelievable. We're

34:25

gonna emulate this. We're gonna, cause

34:27

we are in an industry of followers.

34:29

I mean, I mean, yeah, this is

34:31

the way it is. Copycat league. That's right.

34:33

Yeah. And same, I guess I'd imagine in

34:36

sports, you know, like they

34:38

saw Belichick and Brady, they saw how it worked.

34:40

Oh, we're gonna figure out

34:42

how to try to make that work for us. Hire

34:45

people from the organization. That's right. Anybody that gets cut

34:47

from the Patriots got signed to another team within four

34:49

minutes. Yeah. That's literally how. So I think

34:51

that it's hard to emulate it though, when you're like,

34:53

when I was at the thing the other night

34:55

in Foxborough at the Tom Brady

34:58

Hall of Fame event, it

35:00

was really interesting because Belichick

35:02

was there and he came out and he talked,

35:05

you know, and I was going, oh wow, this is,

35:07

this could be interesting to see what happens, you know,

35:09

but the, it was, they

35:11

were talking about the amount of work like

35:14

Tom was talking about. It was so hard

35:16

during the week that Sunday was, they

35:20

look forward to Sunday. Cause Bill put them

35:22

through so much during the week. Yeah. So,

35:26

and it's kind of like the same with, with

35:28

Taylor and the people that get to a

35:30

point in their life where it looks easy,

35:32

but it's not. Oh yeah. And the work

35:35

ethic. It's, it's, yes. And it's,

35:37

it's, that's the only

35:39

thing I, one thing I can say about Taylor is

35:41

she really has, I

35:43

mean, first of all, she's a brilliant writer and

35:46

a great artist, but she worked really hard. Yeah.

35:48

And I think that is the interesting thing. And

35:50

that's why I think I was so fascinated by

35:52

football people being so mad that she was being

35:54

shown during these games. Cause that was the beginning.

35:56

I'm not saying that's us at all. Check

35:59

our record. big fans of it

36:01

because I watch a documentary because my wife is

36:03

a massive fan of hers. So I watch a

36:05

documentary and what you just said was very evident

36:08

like, oh, Taylor's a fucking dog. Like she is

36:10

in the studio working. What's the release? What's this?

36:12

What's the marketing? Where we headed? She's a part

36:14

of all of it. She's an absolute beast. So

36:17

I thought like football people would be like, Hey,

36:20

this is a bad-ass if I've ever seen it.

36:22

And now she's with Travis Kelsey, who's one of

36:24

our like greatest players of all time. Like it's

36:26

a perfect situation, but I think more people are

36:28

learning that and Taylor's through this entire process. And

36:30

obviously the NFL got a massive swift bump, which

36:33

is good for the game, which is good for

36:35

the sport. No doubt about it.

36:37

Yeah. And she's changed like her music. How hard

36:39

is it to go from like what she started

36:41

as with like her fear of this album and

36:43

like very much country to now where she's kind

36:46

of like a pop. Yeah, it's very, very different. I,

36:48

it's really, it's obviously not

36:50

hard for her. It would be hard for me. Like

36:53

if I decided, look, I can't make any other music

36:55

than the music I make. I can't, I can't decide,

36:57

okay, well, I'm going to make a pop record. There

37:00

we go. You can do it. You can

37:02

do it. Come on. I don't know. I'm actually

37:04

pitching you to being a pop record. I'm

37:06

about mother. Like I sing the way I sing,

37:08

you know, I just don't think it'd be authentic

37:10

and it would be very disingenuous for me to

37:12

do that. But those that can are

37:16

very, of course, Taylor is just, I

37:18

mean, she's one of the most

37:20

amazing artists of our time. Yeah. You

37:22

know, and very obviously very diverse. Yes. A

37:25

lot of different types of songs. Like his

37:27

last album, you know, so high

37:30

school was good. Yeah. You

37:32

know, talking about Travis, we're up there. It's like,

37:35

when you're that personal with your music that you're

37:37

right, like you have to revisit things. Like

37:39

that can't be fun. Yeah, that can't be fun.

37:42

You know, like- But as a songwriter and as

37:44

someone that creates and you

37:46

write your life, you find

37:48

yourself doing that. Well, because when you're singing songs, they talk about songs

37:51

you want to sing and you said, Tract or Sexy. It's like, I

37:53

wonder if there's any songs that take you back to like a

37:55

period of your life that was like maybe a

37:57

relationship or a situation that happened. and

38:00

every time you sing that song, because there's people that listen to

38:02

your songs and associate them with an

38:04

era of their life. Or a moment. Yeah, or

38:06

a moment. And there's some people that can't listen

38:08

to songs anymore because it's associated with a relationship

38:10

or something that happened. And when that song comes

38:12

on, they actually, ah, I can't hear the song.

38:14

I couldn't even imagine for the people that wrote

38:16

it and then have to sing it as well.

38:19

And that just kind of power onto the next song.

38:21

That has to be an interesting thing to come up

38:23

with. No, I have a couple of those, but you're

38:25

like, your life does change and

38:27

it evolves. And what used to be really hard

38:29

10, 15 years ago is

38:32

nothing now. You know what I mean? Like, okay, I

38:34

was there, I happened, but I'm still gonna sing it.

38:37

Right? Yeah. And so,

38:39

luckily I don't have too many of

38:41

those. I mean, there's a couple of songs that

38:43

I've had out

38:46

on the radio. When I hear them, it

38:48

reminds me of a certain girl or a

38:50

certain breakup or me getting, I

38:54

don't know, said no to by a

38:56

certain girl that I wasn't really happy about. There's no way

38:58

that would happen. No way. Back

39:00

in the day, you know, so. Back in the day. It

39:03

was a time. But it's true, music does take us

39:05

there, you know? It's,

39:07

that's one of the most powerful

39:09

things that we

39:12

have, music and sports. Those

39:14

two things bring people together more than anything in the

39:16

world. I truly believe that. Tom's heading to the concert

39:18

tonight. Yeah, I am. Do

39:21

you make a concerted effort to athletes

39:23

of that town to bring them up on the stage? Because

39:26

I know Russell Wilson was on stage with Zach. I'm not

39:28

sure if he was up on stage with you. Shouldn't you

39:30

think you should have welcomed Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh? Well,

39:33

I don't know that I should have. Yeah,

39:35

because you've caused more destruction

39:37

in that stadium and

39:40

done a hell of a lot. Had

39:42

more impacts in that city. No,

39:44

but I used friends with Zach, you know? It's like, that

39:47

didn't bother me. Yeah, well, you know, for me, I

39:49

thought he was the welcoming committee. I thought that was

39:51

awesome. I'm like, Russell Wilson has already. I see what

39:53

you're saying. That is, nah, it didn't bother me. You

39:56

are more synonymous with Pittsburgh. Yeah. Yeah.

39:59

try to bring them up every concert though or

40:01

just if they're there? Not every time, it just

40:03

depends on, I mean the funniest

40:05

thing that has ever happened is when

40:09

we, it was years ago in New England and

40:11

when Wes Welker was still playing for

40:14

the Patriots, I don't know if

40:16

y'all met Wes or know him at all but he's

40:18

like a little bit of a wild card when he's

40:20

had a few. So it's great. It's great. So I

40:22

and I could tell that Wes was over there on

40:25

the side of the stage and he was you know

40:27

moving his body weight one side of the other. I

40:29

could just tell he wanted to come out. Right?

40:32

And so I said okay ladies

40:35

and gentlemen please make welcome Wes Welker and they

40:38

are going crazy and he doesn't get up he doesn't

40:40

say anything he gets up there on the edge of

40:42

the stage to say this is the edge of the

40:44

stage he gets up there the edge of the stage

40:46

and looks at all of Gillette's stadium and goes. So

41:00

you never know what you're going to get. Yeah. Right?

41:02

And so but yeah we've had a lot.

41:06

You guys come to shows I mean there's going to be it

41:08

just happened after boys of fall came

41:11

out. Yeah. Oh yeah. We

41:14

didn't have that many musicians hanging around

41:17

the bus at shows it was

41:19

all coaches and athletes and it's still that way.

41:21

Hey we love what you do man. Yeah. Genuinely

41:23

and it's not just athletes obviously it's a bunch

41:25

of a bunch of us students that

41:27

just like to get away man your music is just

41:30

takes you to a good time and then you get

41:32

on a couple milligrams which I know you haven't done

41:34

since high school or whatever you in a couple milligrams

41:36

you start listening to lyrics you're like there's

41:38

a real deep message

41:41

in this thing. Whatever. I didn't write all those

41:43

songs all those some of them but well hey

41:45

you your writers the songs you pick the brand

41:47

that is Kenny Chesney music makes bangers and we

41:49

can't thank you enough for stopping by. Thanks for

41:51

having me appreciate it. What are you gonna do

41:53

the rest of the day vocal? I'm

41:56

gonna go up now. I'm gonna go up to the

41:58

bus and I may go for a run. I may.

42:00

I'll go. I'm gonna do about four rounds of heat

42:02

and ice. Okay, how long are we in each

42:04

one? I do about 15 minutes

42:06

in the heat, maybe two minutes in the ice.

42:08

And then back into the heat? Back into the heat for 15

42:10

minutes, two minutes in the ice. I

42:13

do three or four rounds. Ending on what? Heater ice. Ending

42:15

on ice. Okay,

42:17

there's a conflict of conversation between this. Yeah, but

42:19

I like the end on the ice. Yeah, me

42:22

too, because it makes you feel fresh. Yeah, I

42:24

gotta have my legs tonight. Oh,

42:27

we're doing a lot of running tonight. So yeah. I

42:29

think I saw you switched out maybe 14

42:32

guitars one night, whenever I saw. Now

42:34

I have like three different ones that I play.

42:37

It's really no rhyme or reason. We just got

42:39

into the habit of me playing a certain guitar on

42:41

certain songs. I mean, I have no- Not superstitious. Well,

42:44

that's the reason we always close in Gillette. We

42:46

always open- Oh, it's a capital, no choose nation,

42:49

right? Yeah, that's right, baby. We always open in

42:51

Tampa and we always close in Gillette. And it's

42:53

been that way since 2005. And

42:56

it's because of the sports in

42:58

my life. I am very superstitious

43:00

when it worked. Okay,

43:03

we're not changing nothing. Smart. Yeah.

43:06

And then we just run it back for another 30 years.

43:08

That's why we always in in Gillette. Well, we're lucky you

43:10

came through here in Indianapolis. We hope you come back. Thank

43:13

you, brother. Thanks for having me. Ladies

43:15

and gentlemen, The Man, who is about to sell out

43:17

a stadium near you. How many more shows do we

43:19

have left? A lot. We're in the middle

43:21

of- We go all the way to the end of August. So

43:23

we've got another two months left. Easy, more than. You're

43:25

gonna crush it. Mm-hmm. Go see him. Ladies

43:28

and gentlemen, Kenny Chastain. Hey. Hey.

43:31

I appreciate you man. I appreciate

43:33

you. I appreciate you guys. Oh

43:35

yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes funny. Hey.

43:38

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

43:40

oh, oh, oh. Hell yeah, go pass.

43:43

Thanks for having us. Bye.

43:45

Bye. Bye. Can

43:47

you make a pot? Oh, oh, can you pot? Let's

43:51

see. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hell yeah.

43:53

Can you give him pot? Can you pot or

43:55

no? Are you? We'll see. Let's

43:58

just say like, if you. to

44:00

putt. Okay, so if I want to putt. There's seven balls

44:02

right there. You think you make two of them? Or not,

44:04

bro. How many gets in? Well, that's what I'm saying. How

44:06

good are you? I don't know. You tell, like. I'm not

44:08

that good. I haven't putt in forever. I haven't

44:10

putt in forever. Two.

44:14

No, one and a half. Where are you putting

44:16

from? Are you going, are you going. Boom, boom.

44:18

Rory McIlroy. Oh, he's going back. Oh, you're going

44:20

this way. No, no, no,

44:22

whatever you want to do, whatever you want to do. This

44:24

is your world. No shoes. No

44:27

shoes world. Good read. I don't

44:29

know how it runs. So, you're going to go here or there?

44:33

Do the one that's closest to you. Got

44:35

one over there. Hold on. Okay, so there's seven. Jesus

44:37

Christ. Can anyone? What are we doing? Yeah,

44:44

summertime, baby. Yeah, it is. It's finally here.

44:46

One and a half. Yeah, just need two.

44:48

Just need two. Hold on, Kenny. Hold on,

44:50

Kenny. You got

44:52

old ballpark man. He's back

44:54

in gear. Okay.

44:57

If Kenny Chesney here, the absolute legend can make two of

44:59

these seven putts. 25

45:03

people will win 500.

45:05

Okay. Now he's got to get to a six.

45:07

Okay. Oh, no. After the first but

45:09

you got a good, good. Yeah. Yeah. Bingo. Got the real speed.

45:11

Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny

45:17

Chesney, obviously country music icon.

45:20

Maynard sells out stadiums. If he can go to a six

45:22

here, two of six here, 25 people in 500. Oh, it

45:24

is one more part

45:26

to fall. Kenny

45:29

Chesney's in Noblesville tonight. He's coming to a city

45:31

near you. Can

45:36

I'll get legs? Can

45:40

I get legs? Oh, I

45:42

think Ken is a sandbag. Yeah. Oh,

45:45

two of seven. He says. Okay. Of course.

45:47

He's Kenny Chesney. What do you ask? I got a

45:49

house in a Virgin Island. You think he's golfing? Yeah,

45:51

he's golfing. Of course. We just got a house. We

45:53

got bamboozled by Kenny Chesney. Kenny Chesney makes his putt.

45:55

25 people win 500. Oh, shit. Roy, Matt. I'm

46:00

not a back worry there. All right. Well, well, well,

46:02

he's already going through enough. He's

46:04

listening to your music to get through it. If Kenny Chesney can bury

46:08

Kenny Chesney can bury this putt. 25 people win $500. No

46:14

pressure at all. 25 people are living a better

46:16

life because of your putt, Kenny. Kenny bury it. No.

46:20

Bold it. Jesus. Oh, oh, oh, oh. The

46:22

bank shop. Bank count. Bank would count. That's

46:24

right. It is open. Kenny Chesney has

46:26

already made one putt. All he has to do is make another.

46:28

If this one falls, 25 people win $500. Oh,

46:34

no. Here we go. Don't move out of

46:36

my bank yet. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

46:38

oh, oh. All right. Here we go.

46:40

Hold on one second. Come on. Yep.

46:42

Yep. Hold on a

46:45

second, Kenny. Hold on

46:47

a second, Kenny. Kenny

46:51

Chesney's turning on the Sun Goes Down

46:54

for it. If

46:56

he makes this putt, 25 people win $500. Oh,

47:00

no. Oh, no. Oh,

47:03

no. I looked so good. I thought it

47:05

was it. Could have broken. Could have broken.

47:08

Appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thanks,

47:10

Kenny. Golly. I know. He

47:12

was all around it. Hey, those are

47:14

all two putts. Hey, thanks, Kenny. Hey,

47:18

you'll make it next time. We'll see you

47:20

next year when you come back. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Chesney.

47:22

What a man. Awesome. All

47:25

right, so we just had a music program.

47:27

Yep, absolutely. Energy, vibes, high, summer, high. Oh,

47:29

no, thank you, Dave. Thank you. You guys

47:31

crushed it. Thank you, guys.

47:33

Tell you what, they said 2024 was going to be

47:35

for the vibes, but I didn't know it was going

47:37

to be like this. Who's they? A

47:40

lot of people. I think you said 2024. The

47:44

vibes. I feel like everyone adopted that.

47:46

How about Kenny Chesney here, obviously, to

47:48

talk about Tennessee being in

47:51

the College World Series finals. That's why you have Kenny

47:53

Chesney on a sports program. He

47:55

was jacked up. You say, yeah, maybe they

47:57

win. Yeah, exactly. Think they will. Against George

48:00

Strait Day. How about how long he has

48:02

been at it now Tennessee obviously the favorite

48:04

here in the world series happening

48:06

in Omaha I believe we'll be talking to Ryan

48:08

McGee tomorrow Popping

48:11

off on Saturday game one that is

48:13

obviously a best best three best of

48:15

three series which we all knew obviously

48:17

and sure We cannot wait to watch

48:20

college baseball entertaining very much. So the

48:22

bats ping You know, we got real

48:24

proud Omaha's obviously bananas in the mayor

48:26

of Omaha Ryan McGee will be joining

48:28

us tomorrow A lot of news happening

48:31

around the sports world including the

48:33

NFL Tom Brady joined Colin cowherd

48:36

yesterday To break down, you

48:38

know his mindset going into call a game Colin

48:40

cowherd said what he's doing is one of the

48:42

most difficult things To do in sports media, which

48:44

is be great 200 times straight for eight seconds

48:46

at a time And if you have one flub

48:49

you are gonna get ridiculed He

48:51

said I have flubs all the time, but it's just kind of

48:53

who I am and then Tom Brady says you're doing okay He's

48:55

calling coward says I'm fine.

48:57

Yeah, but he did ask about his broadcasting

48:59

and how he's gonna view it Here's Tom

49:01

Brady's answer. So I want you to take

49:03

me from the first time you put on

49:05

a headset upstairs. Yeah Until

49:07

the UFL game and your last you

49:09

may have practiced today When

49:12

you watch the tapes, do you notice a difference with

49:14

you? Yeah, I would say yes And I also think

49:17

there's still so much more room for improvement and I

49:19

just attack it almost like when I was a player

49:21

I never felt like I did things the right way

49:23

I there were games where I'd go in afterward and

49:25

think God I'm the worst quarterback in the NFL like

49:28

why would they even want me to play quarterback for

49:30

this team? And I'm sure I'm gonna feel that way

49:32

here at Fox where I finish a game and I

49:34

go God I didn't even give them what they wanted

49:36

and It's it's a very

49:38

challenging thing in your own mind I've asked a few people

49:40

like how do you how do you know that you did

49:42

a good job? and I think for me so much of

49:45

this is gonna come down to the preparation and did I

49:47

feel like I Was prepared

49:49

that I feel like our crew was prepared that

49:51

I give them the best over the course of

49:53

the week so that We could give ourselves the

49:55

best opportunity to be successful for the fans because

49:57

really the game is to show there

50:00

to add our take

50:02

on it and our analysis. But

50:04

it's also, did we feel like we

50:07

added to the broadcast? And from my standpoint, I'm gonna work

50:09

as hard as I can, the process of it, as

50:11

you talked about earlier, to make sure that I do deliver,

50:13

because I don't wanna let anyone down. I don't wanna

50:15

let the people at Fox are down, and I certainly don't

50:18

wanna watch, let the great NFL

50:20

fans down either. Shout out to Colin

50:22

Cowherd yesterday, obviously on Fox Sports,

50:24

and he has been a guy who's been doing it for 30

50:26

years, at a high

50:28

level. Him and Tom have had a better

50:31

conversation whenever they're together, than any of those

50:33

Let's Go podcasts with Jim. Oh yeah, for

50:35

sure. Jim Gray is phenomenal, obviously, but what

50:37

Tom Brady opens up to Colin Cowherd about

50:39

is actual good shit. Him talking about letting

50:41

everybody down is like the Tom Brady difference,

50:43

right? Like his big team work hard. He

50:45

wants to have the production crew ready. I

50:47

remember when they talked about Monday Night Football,

50:49

whenever John Gruden was on the call. I

50:52

don't know if he knew how to operate

50:54

emails at that time, but I do know

50:56

that he knew how to call a game.

50:58

Basically that entire week was like John Gruden

51:00

prepping the production company and prepping the Monday

51:02

Night Football crew on how he's gonna cover

51:04

certain things in a game. So it was

51:06

like John Gruden directing that and whoever's commentating

51:08

like, hey, just kinda, you need to keep

51:10

this show on. I think

51:13

it's gonna be similar for Tom. I think it's gonna be

51:15

very similar for Tom. And I think this is good news.

51:17

And we are all Greg Olsen fans. We

51:19

all love Greg Olsen. This show loves Greg Olsen. Oh yeah. Everybody

51:21

loves Greg Olsen. And I think Greg Olsen

51:23

is a top man. Okay, I think he's

51:25

a lead man. I think he's a front

51:27

man for whoever, wherever, whenever he gets whatever

51:29

gig it is. But having the greatest of

51:32

all time, be this plugged in and dialed

51:34

in into how to broadcast a game and

51:36

to hear his brain spill. And not only

51:38

his brain, by the way, Bill Belichick's brain

51:40

spill that has been osmosis through his is

51:42

good for sports. I appreciate those convos between

51:44

Colin and Tom, but I also appreciate the

51:46

fact that we're about to have an entire season learning from

51:48

the goat while he's calling prime time games. Yeah, I think

51:50

it's going to be unbelievable. Just the amount of stories. You're

51:52

a Patriots fan. Of course, yeah. But just like the amount

51:54

of stories, but you think about,

51:56

you know, when Tony Romo first came on, everyone

51:59

loved him because he was going to tell you.

52:01

what was gonna happen in the play before, and

52:03

then he was right all the time before the

52:05

gym, gym. But that's the thing with Tom, like

52:07

Tom's gonna be able to do that. He's gonna

52:09

be able to tell you all the stories. I

52:12

just worry about the guy who has to control

52:14

his audio or his mic, because if that's wrong,

52:16

like you mentioned, kinda his whole thing, you don't

52:18

wanna let anyone down, the whole like do your

52:20

job type of thing. If someone screws up one

52:23

of his things, I assume that person's probably the

52:25

last time they're doing. Well, there is gonna be

52:27

an expectation of excellent. Exactly. Just like what happens

52:29

when Tom Brady goes into the Tampa building, everybody

52:32

there ups their game because they know that

52:34

they can't be the reason why this doesn't

52:36

go well. But Fox understands what's happening here.

52:38

Oh yeah. I think everybody on that crew

52:40

knows, and Burkhart, absolute dog. I

52:42

mean, they are gonna be phenomenal. I'm very,

52:44

very excited for the Tom Brady debut. Yeah,

52:46

I mean, and all those guys can only

52:48

benefit from if they put on an excellent

52:50

product. But I think the thing I'm most

52:52

excited about is we always hear about the

52:54

quarterback meetings between whoever's doing the game. And

52:57

certain guys will always say like, oh, I always

52:59

love meeting with Joe Buck and Troy or whatever,

53:01

you know, whoever it may be. I

53:03

think very few people have been able to

53:06

get out of those guys what Brady potentially

53:08

will and like do it in a manner

53:10

where like it's actually digestible. Like it seems

53:12

like sometimes they might get something and then

53:14

it ends up being just like super quarterback

53:17

jargony where it's like, that's cool. But like,

53:19

it's tough to understand what you're really saying.

53:21

I feel like Brady will be able to

53:24

simplify what these guys are saying to him and

53:26

then what they're trying to do within the game

53:28

more so than a lot of guys have been

53:30

able to do. No offense to Collinsworth, no

53:32

offense to even Troy Aikman. We're

53:35

all fans of Herbie. We're all fans, all of

53:37

us are all fans. Everybody in

53:39

the league is a fan of

53:41

Tom Brady. And yeah, grew up wanting to be him.

53:43

Yeah, this is just like the Aaron Rodgers thing. Right.

53:46

Like you hear any player talk about Aaron Rodgers is

53:48

like dog, any athlete you hear him talk like Aaron

53:50

Rodgers is a dog, the dog is a dog. But

53:53

you hear media and you know, other people, fan base,

53:55

he's talking about it differently. Like Tom Brady, everybody that's

53:57

in the NFL right now is like grew up like

53:59

this. So whenever he's asking them a question like what

54:01

are you looking at here and then they're trying probably

54:03

to get information from Tom. For sure. And that same

54:05

conversation as well and what he should be looking for.

54:08

It should be a thing of beauty for us. Speaking of

54:10

a thing of beauty, I got a chance to witness Olympic

54:12

trials last night for the swimming

54:14

at Lucas oil stadium. It's a nine day

54:16

thing that's taking place. I believe that is

54:18

replicating how long the swimming duration

54:21

of the Olympics is in Paris at the end

54:23

of July here, whatever it is. I

54:26

couldn't recommend this event more. It

54:28

was electric. They turned Lucas oil

54:31

stadium, cut in half two massive

54:33

Olympic size pools. One

54:35

for warm up, one for the show.

54:37

They had this light show that a

54:39

local Indianapolis company put together with Dot

54:41

and the production was phenomenal. USA swimming

54:43

had so many talented swimmers in there

54:45

where the races were electrifying. Then some

54:48

of our goats showed up

54:50

and performed exactly how we would hope that

54:52

our goats would perform. 22,209 people came and

54:54

watched last night. It's

54:58

a world record for the most amount of people

55:00

at a swim meet or a swim event. The

55:03

previous record before this week was in Rio for

55:05

the Olympics. It was like 16,000 or something. Then

55:07

on Sunday, they had 20,000. Last

55:10

night they had 22,209 world record for an indoor swim meet. And

55:15

it was awesome. The

55:17

show was awesome. The fans were awesome. The

55:19

USA swimming folks I was hanging out with

55:21

were so incredibly hospitable. Kyle Sockwell, who's a

55:23

content creator former Arizona state swimmer for USA

55:25

swimming was the one that sent me the

55:27

formal invite said he get a tattoo on

55:30

his ass. If I came, it's like it's

55:32

in Indy. It looks sweet. I'm

55:34

a come. You don't have to get a

55:36

tattoo, but they're a great host. And we

55:38

got absolute dogs swimming in our pool. And

55:41

I know the Australians have been getting back

55:43

into this and they've been running their mouth

55:45

and talking their shit about the USA swimming

55:47

and being sick of hearing the star spangled

55:50

banner. That's that's for shoot brother. Yeah. Swimmers

55:52

saying that's our greatest anthem. 254

55:56

gold medals for the USA swim team. And

55:58

there's more on the way. way,

56:01

came to a deckie at the

56:03

19 top times in the world's

56:05

history of the mile swim for

56:07

women. 19 top times is

56:09

by one person. Now, Canada swimmers, I guess there's

56:11

a Canadian lady who has been able to keep

56:13

up with the deckie in like the 800 or

56:16

the 400 or whatever. Nobody has

56:19

touched the American in the 1500. And last

56:21

night there's people swimming in the opposite direction

56:23

as she was swimming. We got a 17

56:25

year old who is built like an absolute

56:29

45 year old grown ass man. And Thomas,

56:31

he'll be represented in the 200. Yeah, he

56:33

is a beat. That's what 17 year olds

56:35

look like. Great job. All over. Where? Okay,

56:37

Douglas, man. I mean, there is just so

56:40

many studs last night. It was an honor

56:42

to be there and Lilly King represent Indiana

56:44

does it again. That's right. It was fun.

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56:50

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now. Okay. Let's

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remember that there was cold ass times just a few months ago. A

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like four or five months. The cloud

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was the only thing that we saw. What's above the

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it because it's gloom and doom. It

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is winter in Indianapolis. Now

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it's 94, 150 degree percent humidity. It's

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impossible to go outside with pets and even

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babies. Let's remember this is a good thing.

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Summer silent here. Happy summer. Happy

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summer. So way better than the winter. That's

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one half of the hammer. God, Cowboys tone

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digs. Amen. Way better

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than the ice all over everything. When you can't go

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outside, you're kind of forced to stay inside and then

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the sun's not there. And

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there's a little seasonal depression setting in because

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you haven't actually had fresh air in about

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three to four days because it's impossible to

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go outside. Remember those days whenever it gets

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excruciatingly hot over the next week or so.

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have right now. That's right. People that didn't grow

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up before seasons have no idea. Well, we get

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to enjoy the sun every day. We're more active.

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We're more fit. We're more happy. We

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get it. Okay. So what? But

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have you ever had a moment where you look outside like

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it's the beginning of civilization and you go, the sun, holy

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shit. Have you ever had that where it disappeared for maybe

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three to four months and then it popped out of nowhere?

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Think about the early days of humans when that sun just

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disappeared in the Midwest. They had to think that this has

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gone forever. So we're dead.

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We do now. And then it

1:01:29

came back. Think about the celebration. That's what we have

1:01:32

right now. That same celebration about, hey, summertime's

1:01:34

finally hit on a ballpark

1:01:37

man's back in here. That's

1:01:40

the talks at table at Boston Connor and

1:01:42

at Ty Schmidt. What a conversation that first hour

1:01:44

Kenny Chesney. Fantastic. I mean, I

1:01:46

was kind of celebrating your guy's face. I mean, you

1:01:48

know, New England, of course we got the Super Bowls.

1:01:51

Of course we just won the NBA championship, but son

1:01:53

of a bitch, Kenny Chesney is a son of Massachusetts.

1:01:56

His home is New England and

1:01:58

clearly his What's the

1:02:01

word for it? His paradise, his

1:02:03

White House, his Taj Mahal is

1:02:05

Gillette State. No, it's great in

1:02:08

the Caribbean. He said the

1:02:10

capital of No Shoes Nation is

1:02:12

in fact Gillette State. And he agreed.

1:02:14

And he said yes. He was in the middle of a take.

1:02:16

He did that a couple times where he said yeah. No, no,

1:02:18

no, no. Johnny got that. Ladies and

1:02:21

gentlemen, he's a man who's in an attic in Ohio.

1:02:23

We got Kenny. He

1:02:25

did say it always ends in Gillette or whatever, which is

1:02:28

certainly, I guess, another tip of the cap. The people of

1:02:30

Boston who don't have enough. He

1:02:32

didn't say why it ended, Gillette. Well, yeah,

1:02:34

he said because they had one successful run

1:02:36

in 2005 or whatever and then we're doing

1:02:38

this again. He did say that,

1:02:40

but what he meant to say was like I was so

1:02:42

sick of crowds after being in Gillette that I just had

1:02:44

to end the tour there. Okay, so that's why it ends.

1:02:46

No. Supposed to continue. No.

1:02:50

We're doing that again. Joining us now is a man who's

1:02:52

in an attic in Ohio. I assume he's been to plenty

1:02:54

of Kenny Chesney concerts. Probably very sober at all those. Ladies

1:02:57

and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl

1:02:59

champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay

1:03:01

Packers, A.J. Hawker. Hawker,

1:03:04

how about Kenny Chesney, man? He's jocked,

1:03:06

dude, jacked. Oh, he is jacked.

1:03:08

Yeah, Kenny's awesome. I've actually never been

1:03:10

able to attend one of Kenny's concerts. Now, General Bobby

1:03:12

Carper has been to lost in lots of Kenny shows,

1:03:15

but yeah, I don't know why. It's never timed up.

1:03:17

You have to. Dude's great. Dude's

1:03:19

awesome. Same name. He's at Michael's.

1:03:21

Yeah, Michael's concerts, no problem. I can put it

1:03:23

on my affliction pants. 15 years ago. I

1:03:26

can get in the tour bus. I can take my photos. And

1:03:30

I get having four kids is a little bit

1:03:32

of a problematic whenever it comes to scheduling stuff.

1:03:34

But a Kenny Chesney concert is worth it because

1:03:36

everybody has the same mindset. It's like, you

1:03:39

know, people talk about New Orleans being awesome, and it

1:03:41

certainly is. But another reason

1:03:43

why it's awesome is because everybody's there with the same

1:03:45

exact mindset. So like anytime you have

1:03:47

everybody rowing in the same direction anywhere, it's going

1:03:49

to be good. And that's like a Kenny Chesney

1:03:51

concert. Yeah. Just like a Jimmy

1:03:53

Buffett concert. Bingo. Everybody's kind of

1:03:55

going in the same exact direction, thinking the same

1:03:57

thing. Before we have another super surprise. guests join

1:03:59

us up here on stage. We've got to cover

1:04:02

some of the stuff that's happening around

1:04:04

the NFL, more specifically in Pittsburgh. So Mark

1:04:06

Aboli wrote an article in front

1:04:08

of the program, Mark Aboli wrote an article

1:04:11

on the Athletic about Justin Fields. That article

1:04:13

was then taken in a couple different ways,

1:04:16

put out by aggregators. And then basically

1:04:18

said that Mark Aboli said that he

1:04:20

was disinterested. This guy hates being a

1:04:22

Pittsburgh Steelers. Mark Aboli never said that

1:04:24

in his article, but certainly JPA football,

1:04:26

NFL rumors, the whole of the whole

1:04:28

of the world, the 100 aggregators

1:04:31

who read something, take it how they

1:04:33

feel it is, no matter how wrong they are, unproven

1:04:36

they are, and then put that out as fact.

1:04:38

This is now the world that we live in,

1:04:40

and that can get people. People read that and

1:04:43

they think it's true because maybe that is something

1:04:45

that could happen to Justin Fields. So much so

1:04:47

that Omar Khan was actually asked about this particular

1:04:49

thought on 93.7, the fan

1:04:51

which actually used to be B94. Okay,

1:04:53

Adam Baum used to run shit on B94

1:04:56

back in the day. Now it's 93.7, the

1:04:59

fans sports talk incredible cast

1:05:01

characters, but they asked Omar Khan about

1:05:03

Justin Fields being disinterested in everything like

1:05:06

that. Justin's exciting to have, if

1:05:09

you would have told me that we'd be

1:05:11

sitting here with Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, and

1:05:13

Kyle Allen, even five months ago, I wouldn't

1:05:15

have believed you. We really like Justin coming

1:05:17

out of college. Obviously, he had a up

1:05:20

and down situation in Chicago and I'm

1:05:22

excited. He's really looked awesome. He's the

1:05:24

great individual too. I didn't really know

1:05:26

him personally got here and just, man,

1:05:29

what a special person he is. I

1:05:31

used to listen to B94 all the

1:05:33

time and now people obviously listen for

1:05:35

the sports talk and sports conversation. What

1:05:37

a glowing response about Justin Fields from the general

1:05:40

manager of the Pittsburgh Steelers who just did a

1:05:42

trade. Then you think about him talking about if

1:05:44

I would have known we had all these guys

1:05:46

that we pumped, how about a new linebacker that

1:05:49

they signed from the Baltimore Ravens? Here's a little

1:05:51

story coming out of the entire thing. Mr. Humphrey

1:05:53

says at some point you got to realize that

1:05:55

grass is always greener, you know, leaving Baltimore going

1:05:58

to Pittsburgh. In response, Patrick Queen. Put

1:06:00

out a video of him drinking wine and watering the

1:06:02

grass. You know, because the comment is that

1:06:04

the grass isn't always greener. Martin Humphrey

1:06:06

said about Patrick Queen leaving Baltimore and going

1:06:08

to Pittsburgh. And then he said, no,

1:06:11

it's greener where you water it. And he,

1:06:13

this dude, watered his grass out there in

1:06:15

Pittsburgh. Patrick Queen's loving being a stealer. And

1:06:17

that's another guy that I think most Steelers

1:06:19

fans couldn't have dreamt of being

1:06:21

a Pittsburgh stealer just like six, five, six

1:06:23

months ago. Now everybody's optimistic as hell. Is

1:06:25

that a good taste or a good read

1:06:28

on how Pittsburgh is? Absolutely is because there's

1:06:30

been one weakness in the defense last, I

1:06:32

don't know, since obviously, since Ryan Chazier's injury,

1:06:35

it's been the linebacker position. They have tried.

1:06:37

They have not been able to replace him and Patrick

1:06:39

Queen who was a, it was, was first round pick.

1:06:42

A top pick has been incredible in Baltimore was

1:06:45

like Omar going to get him was that was you

1:06:47

put the stamp on, okay, Omar's doing things a little

1:06:49

different around here and bringing in guys that are going

1:06:52

to help immediately and bringing in him to now that

1:06:54

we have TJ and Cam and you

1:06:56

got Minka in the back and now you have Patrick Queen in

1:06:58

the middle. You've got him there. Is

1:07:00

that everything good there? Yeah, everything's good now. Okay.

1:07:02

Now or is it? Well, he

1:07:04

missed like a day or two. Okay. Because he said

1:07:07

my plan is still to be a stealer. Yeah. Listen,

1:07:09

he was, he was born in Pittsburgh.

1:07:11

I mean, this son of ironhead, hey, we're okay. He's

1:07:14

going to be in Pittsburgh his entire career, but now

1:07:16

we've got guys that are, I hope somebody tells Omar

1:07:18

that Omar gets okay. Okay.

1:07:21

Well, I'm saying I think because there is a situation.

1:07:23

There's no situation. This game could

1:07:25

come over here to Indianapolis Colts. We've been.

1:07:27

We've been doing. Yeah. I

1:07:29

got to pay him, right? I think that's all. That's

1:07:31

how it works. I mean, he wants to be. He

1:07:33

has a contract. Okay. AJ. Does

1:07:36

he like? Okay. Does he like me?

1:07:39

Anyway, it's going to mean much. Yeah. Go

1:07:41

through that defense. Go ahead. Let's make sure we're

1:07:43

telling the truth. looks like

1:07:46

he's going to be great. So it doesn't look

1:07:48

like there's any holes on that defense and the

1:07:50

offense has got weapons galore and Justin Fields doesn't

1:07:52

have to be great training camp. Okay. Russell

1:07:55

Wilson's. It's not even training camp yet either.

1:07:57

Already. He's already great. You're

1:07:59

right. Believe me, we got a lot of food

1:08:01

gauge stories we're gonna have to talk about like

1:08:03

they're actually real. Oh, yeah, but like pittsburgh's dealers

1:08:05

fans Potentially thinking though

1:08:08

from aggregators that are taking You

1:08:10

know quotes out of context and things like that and i'm

1:08:12

not even gonna get into that for our life But it

1:08:15

is a real problem. Yeah, and there's fake quotes out there

1:08:17

from not just paul sack sports anymore No, no, no Now

1:08:20

there's like fake quotes from like other people

1:08:22

That are getting clipped and taken for real by these

1:08:25

aggregators because the aggregators do get things, right? So

1:08:28

every time they get something right almost builds up the credibility

1:08:31

Which then makes whenever something is just completely wrong or

1:08:33

false or taken out of context and put out there

1:08:36

more uh legit and then you

1:08:38

could potentially ruin Somebody's

1:08:40

entire everything and if stealers fans see that

1:08:42

just the fields isn't happy being A

1:08:44

pittsburgh's the first responsible of pittsburgh's we don't care

1:08:46

get them out here It's

1:08:49

like that doesn't need to happen. We won't volunteers. No hostage

1:08:51

That's what i'm saying Like so that's where like some

1:08:54

of that and i'm happy omar came out and went

1:08:56

to bat for him But with the addition of patrick

1:08:58

queen and what the steelers have going on Are they

1:09:00

okay to be as optimistic as they are aj obviously

1:09:02

the afc north is a kitchen It's hot in the

1:09:04

kitchen. But do you think pittsburgh steelers have a chance

1:09:06

here? I actually do call me crazy

1:09:09

You mentioned their defense Like you said all three levels

1:09:12

and patrick queen if steelers fans which they should be

1:09:14

very aware of him from his play in baltimore The

1:09:16

dude is an absolute monster can fly. He's physical can

1:09:18

do everything He'll be on the field the whole game

1:09:21

But for digs like our pittsburgh fans Are they

1:09:24

commonly very positive and optimistic or are they usually

1:09:26

the other way they are last few years? There's

1:09:28

certainly been some they're not they're not the most

1:09:30

optimistic bunch. But you're the most diehard They're the

1:09:32

most diehard bunch But also like I think when

1:09:35

they congregate with each other it's fun to like

1:09:37

talk about how bad they're gonna be or how

1:09:39

bad They have been yeah, they're a miserable shit

1:09:41

talking bunch for sure I mean that misery loves

1:09:44

company and shit talking people love it's a family

1:09:46

thing though Like hey, you can I can say

1:09:48

something bad about the steelers You can't because you're

1:09:50

not a diehard pittsburgh bingo bingo that is absolutely

1:09:53

how it goes especially around a couple. Yeah RC

1:09:56

mongos We're

1:09:58

optimistic until you give us a reason not to

1:10:00

and that reason doesn't have to be very big.

1:10:02

So that on that note remember they were going

1:10:04

to Super Leshox Kenny Pickett in the preseason. Yeah,

1:10:06

I remember some of those clips. I remember some

1:10:08

of those clips would pop up. Yeah. Hang the

1:10:10

banner. It wasn't just because how Kenny Pickett was

1:10:12

doing it was because Matt Canada figured out how

1:10:14

to call an offense. That is what the celebration

1:10:17

was in preseason last year. Matt Canada, this offense

1:10:19

coordinator who has been inept and has been a

1:10:21

rather poor offense coordinator whether it's players him whatever

1:10:24

the hell the reasoning is preseason comes around and

1:10:26

Kenny Pickett's throwing it all over the yard. George

1:10:28

Pickens is wide open. Matt Canada is using space

1:10:30

using things other than just jet sweeps. It's like

1:10:33

holy hell the Pittsburgh Steelers have figured out and then

1:10:35

regular season comes when teams are actually game planning and

1:10:37

actually using stuff and all of a sudden it goes

1:10:39

right back down in the crowd. Yeah, and it was

1:10:41

then whenever they all lost hope and then Matt Canada

1:10:43

gets fired. All of a sudden hold

1:10:46

on we might get a run at this thing and

1:10:48

then the end of the year is oh we're above

1:10:50

500 again. Great. Okay, we need to change everything and

1:10:52

Omar Khan has. He has done

1:10:54

things vastly different than former

1:10:56

Colbert run Pittsburgh Steelers team. I think

1:10:58

they have a right to be optimistic

1:11:00

and I like Patrick Queen. Oh

1:11:03

yeah. He's great on Twitter. I

1:11:06

didn't follow him as a Raven. Follow him

1:11:08

now obviously. He's a great Twitter follow. He's

1:11:10

active. He's very funny. Gets it. Charming. If

1:11:13

Russ is Russ man like they could

1:11:15

be as good as they want to be. Really nice. Think about it.

1:11:17

If Russ plays like. He did. Is that his actually yard?

1:11:21

Do you think? I don't know. You would think a sprinkler

1:11:23

system potentially with how large the yard is because he's going

1:11:26

to be out there a while if he wants to water

1:11:28

that whole thing by hand. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And

1:11:30

maybe he decided not to use the sprinkler system

1:11:33

that he installed himself because he wanted

1:11:35

to get the point across that, you know, I'm

1:11:37

watering the grass. Do you remember back in the day

1:11:39

where there was a drought and you weren't allowed to

1:11:41

water your grass? Oh yeah. What? We're about a week

1:11:43

away from that. When? That was all like

1:11:46

there was actual news breaking news and

1:11:48

like alerts like you're not allowed to water your

1:11:50

grass. Get in trouble for running your sprint course.

1:11:52

Yeah. California does that a lot. I think in

1:11:54

Ohio, I've got an email saying like, Hey, this

1:11:56

is how you need to limit your water use

1:11:58

and all that stuff. That helps. Legit. Yeah. Everybody's

1:12:00

yard just looks like crop except for Frank's down

1:12:02

the road. Yeah, thanks. Obviously burn it all right

1:12:05

Yeah, Frank's using my kids water For

1:12:08

the water the grass and that's good-looking yard. Yeah, you

1:12:10

couldn't even like flush It was like a you're only

1:12:12

flushing if you take a shit like if you're pissing

1:12:15

you know You got to leave that in there all

1:12:17

day We're not just burning gallons by flushing the toilet

1:12:19

how hot it is and once again,

1:12:21

we're thankful. It's hot. Remember? Yeah This

1:12:24

early remember AJ. We're thankful. We are very

1:12:26

thankful for the humidity especially that's what I'm

1:12:28

thankful for You're right.

1:12:30

It is nice to go outside and not be

1:12:32

freezing though. It's cool. I like it It's always

1:12:34

on the other side AJ. Listen, you got we're

1:12:36

buying in remember This is the it's all about

1:12:38

the mindset here used to be so cold now

1:12:40

It's great and when those days were cold, we're

1:12:42

yearning for this, but you walk outside and

1:12:45

you get wet Oh, yeah

1:12:47

immediately. That's not cool. Why

1:12:49

is it doing that? Can we not stop that? How

1:12:51

come the smart people haven't figured that? We

1:12:55

have like 70 70 to 72 every single great

1:12:57

for that week I don't

1:12:59

even know if we had a week straight of spring I

1:13:01

think we had like maybe two days two days and a

1:13:03

break and then a couple days They

1:13:05

really you know, and that's what the

1:13:07

NFL PA is wanting to do You

1:13:11

know slowly roll into this thing and

1:13:13

then heighten it up So

1:13:16

we had two days of spring and winter was back.

1:13:18

Yeah, and then two days of spring and winter was

1:13:20

back and then Boom we

1:13:22

had summer. No, we don't we have winter.

1:13:24

Yep, and all of a sudden this week.

1:13:26

It's like you have a sauna now Yeah,

1:13:28

summer's here. Everybody gets a sauna. That's really

1:13:30

cool. That's really nice. Yeah, it's nice waking

1:13:32

up in the morning I'm having all your

1:13:34

windows completely fogged up already because the AC

1:13:36

inside is so cold and then you know

1:13:38

outside It's like, okay, it's 95 and humid

1:13:40

outside already Yeah, and how come all of

1:13:42

our air conditioning's always have some sort of

1:13:44

hiccup, you know, I mean me

1:13:47

you're telling me Why is that this is

1:13:49

a lifetime warranty? You're gonna love what this

1:13:51

thing's blowing forever and then as soon as

1:13:53

it gets hot It's like yep,

1:13:55

gonna have to get a checkup on it. Yeah, we just had

1:13:57

to up a little bit do a little bit It's like well,

1:13:59

is this? So what are we in this what I

1:14:01

did last year? Well, those guys always talk to you like

1:14:03

you work on air conditioners for all day,

1:14:05

every day. It's just all mumbo. Well, your damper, you

1:14:07

see, it's it's at about a three fourths way right

1:14:10

now. So what I'm going to do is I'm going

1:14:12

to get in there. I'm going to move a couple

1:14:14

of things around your panels. I noticed a

1:14:16

couple of scorch burns on there. So we're going to have to remove

1:14:18

that as well. It's going to be I don't

1:14:20

know. I could probably get in and out for, I don't know,

1:14:22

fifty five hundred bucks. Yeah. And then filter, you have to check

1:14:24

your filter. Normally filters and issues. You see this red light right

1:14:26

here is like, yeah, I changed filter out a month ago or

1:14:28

whatever. I've changed a new one now because obviously,

1:14:30

OK, I get you a new one for, I don't

1:14:32

know, seven seventy nine

1:14:35

ninety nine. No big deal. We can be there in

1:14:37

four days. Well, I get that's good. I think it's

1:14:39

really hot right now. I think it's wild. Being an

1:14:41

adult is crazy. Life never stops. Sounds like it's always

1:14:43

no adults. There's no adults. You know that there's

1:14:46

no adults. I mean, these dudes live in apartments downtown.

1:14:48

It's like living the dream. I mean, I can't even

1:14:50

imagine that situation that's never happened. Do you have somebody

1:14:53

coming in doing your laundry? Used

1:14:56

to actually kind of a situation kind of

1:14:58

kind of a situation. You just started your

1:15:00

apartment into a hotel with my recent laundry

1:15:02

person had to had to kind of kick

1:15:05

them to the curb. Sticky fingers. No, not

1:15:07

even that. Just, you know, maybe maybe fraudulent,

1:15:09

fraudulent hours spent, you could say. No, it's

1:15:11

not talk. No, I would never trust. I

1:15:14

mean, fraudulent. OK. It

1:15:17

took eight hours, they said. But really, bingo.

1:15:19

There you go. Yeah, it

1:15:21

was probably had the right streaks in

1:15:23

your little whitey tighties. Yeah, they hand

1:15:26

clean. So funny enough that

1:15:28

you guys say this, I ran

1:15:30

a test myself. I'm going to do most of

1:15:32

my laundry and then see what these people come

1:15:34

back to me with. This should be the cheapest

1:15:37

that it's ever been this week. Of

1:15:39

course, it was the most expensive. So I said,

1:15:41

you know what? Get the hell

1:15:43

out of here. Yeah, exactly. They were trying

1:15:45

to they're trying to get me. And I

1:15:47

got them. Let's let's talk. Yeah, you did.

1:15:49

I waited. Yes, I did. He

1:15:51

gets what I did yesterday. My laundry.

1:15:53

Wow. And I folded

1:15:56

it to. Whoa. Yeah, in the basket. Usually I

1:15:58

do that for four or five, six. weeks

1:16:00

Wow yeah not bad at all that's growing

1:16:02

up step by step I never deal with

1:16:05

that air conditioning shit so I there's a chance

1:16:07

I do stay in a part that's what happens

1:16:09

when the NBA championship season

1:16:11

is over and John Laundry left yeah that's a

1:16:13

good point actually and out of range holy shit

1:16:16

what it what a television program you know what

1:16:18

else is an incredible television program I think I

1:16:20

know you're going time

1:16:22

to list a no Roy is it yeah

1:16:25

you know the person that is wrote

1:16:28

the books of the terminal terminal this year's or

1:16:30

seven of them now do I with the most

1:16:32

recent one being red

1:16:36

sky morning and it's morning

1:16:39

not like the time of day no

1:16:41

morning like rest in peace yeah exactly

1:16:44

yeah this guy's former Navy SEAL this guy

1:16:46

right here save the seventh book right seventh

1:16:48

book I think seventh in this series yeah

1:16:50

seventh seventh one in this series former

1:16:53

Navy SEAL obviously one of

1:16:55

the greatest authors on earth one of the greatest storytellers

1:16:58

on earth and a man that saved the world when

1:17:00

he shot Arthur I official yeah right

1:17:02

in the head right here under dome

1:17:05

yeah just about a year ago one

1:17:07

shot doesn't get talked about enough nearly

1:17:09

enough ladies and gentlemen New York Times

1:17:11

bestseller Navy SEAL

1:17:13

hero Jack Carr at

1:17:28

all come on now great to see you guys whoo oh gotta do

1:17:30

some ears all right let's

1:17:44

do it yeah thanks a lot AJ this

1:17:46

is a tradition unlike

1:17:48

any other yeah greatest

1:17:55

author on earth stopping through this underdome it's

1:17:57

our masters we are incredibly lucky that you've

1:17:59

come by here and you know

1:18:01

thanks for the whiskey. This

1:18:04

is a Hooten Young, Jack Hart,

1:18:06

warrior proof American whiskey. Sixteen year,

1:18:08

16 year results. It

1:18:11

looks so good. This thing's been baking for a long ass time.

1:18:13

I assume it's gonna be delightful. We'll take a shot at the

1:18:15

end of this thing. Let's do it. Okay.

1:18:18

Yeah. I absolutely love that.

1:18:20

And the way you market your books, you

1:18:22

know, as if. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:18:24

They are. Oh. So sick.

1:18:27

Look at this, thank you for this. We love this. We have three

1:18:29

of these in here now that we literally

1:18:31

keep around the office to remind us that there

1:18:33

are heroes that walk amongst us who have massive

1:18:35

brains who go up into the mountains and

1:18:38

just start writing books and knock

1:18:40

them out in the world of autism. Congrats on

1:18:42

another release. Thank you. Yeah, that's

1:18:44

on the phone. Thank you, appreciate that.

1:18:46

Thank you guys. Okay, so the right

1:18:49

air stoppage that happened. I

1:18:51

think that was one of the last times you

1:18:53

were here with us. It was taking place. So

1:18:55

the terminal is TV show kind of slowed down,

1:18:57

but now there's a prequel coming out. You got

1:18:59

another book coming out. Are we all systems back

1:19:01

going to this? All systems are going to put

1:19:03

us behind by about a year, even though the

1:19:05

strike wasn't a year long. It's just the compounding

1:19:07

effects made it take, push things about a year.

1:19:09

So have the prequel origin story coming out probably

1:19:12

next year. We're about to finish up filming that

1:19:14

in Budapest, which is a crazy city out there

1:19:16

and then roll right into true believer, which is

1:19:18

the second book starring Chris Pratt. Okay, so the

1:19:20

prequel that you created, you just wrote that for

1:19:22

the TV. And then the terminal series

1:19:24

with Chris Pratt is still going to go for season two.

1:19:26

So this is a beginning of a brand new series, pretty

1:19:28

much. Beginning of a brand new series, but it's an origin

1:19:31

story of one of the characters to show how he gets

1:19:33

to a place where he can do the things that he

1:19:35

does in the terminal list. So he's kind of a, he

1:19:37

is eventually becomes a bad guy. I'm trying

1:19:39

to not do any spoilers. Yeah, please don't. It

1:19:42

shows the journey to get there. So it's an

1:19:44

action thriller and an espionage thriller. Love it. It

1:19:46

turns that in moving up into Europe and kind

1:19:48

of goes to that espionage vibe. Yeah, that's what

1:19:50

we've heard. And everybody has talked glowingly

1:19:52

of the entire thing. So

1:19:55

are you just thinking of ideas, like songwriters,

1:19:58

they'll say they'll be in a car. on

1:20:00

the back of the porch in the

1:20:02

Virgin Islands. And the idea will come and they'll hit

1:20:05

their notes section or they'll write things down. For you

1:20:07

for like an angle for a character, when you're just

1:20:09

driving around, are you like thinking of things? And then

1:20:11

how do you remember them? Or when you get writing,

1:20:14

they all come? What is your, the whole process? Cause

1:20:16

you know what, like a hundred characters, got a prequel,

1:20:18

got seven books here, got two seasons here. I mean,

1:20:20

there's a lot going on. How do you continue? Is

1:20:22

it all day? It's all day every

1:20:25

day. It's a profession, not a career is how I

1:20:27

looked at it. Which is how I looked at the

1:20:29

military also. It's called the profession of arms, not the

1:20:31

career of arms. And I think there's a difference in

1:20:33

the mindset there. So I'm always thinking about it. I

1:20:35

love every part of the process. Things tend to, ideas

1:20:37

tend to pop up at the most inopportune times. I

1:20:39

think that's probably across the board for everyone. So I

1:20:41

scramble and I send myself an email to an address

1:20:43

that only I have. So those are only in there.

1:20:46

Cause I quite figured out the notes, even though I'm told it's the most,

1:20:48

the easiest thing in the world to use. But

1:20:50

for some reason I just send myself this email to

1:20:53

an email that only I have access to. And that's

1:20:55

how I go. So the email app that you open,

1:20:58

I mean so many more steps than

1:21:00

the notes. I know. I

1:21:02

just don't know why I have a hard time with that.

1:21:05

I love that specific email. Hey, whatever your process is, you

1:21:07

do it. AJ Hawke has a

1:21:09

question for you. Oh yeah. Yeah, Jack, I

1:21:11

heard you buy a new computer for each book you write.

1:21:13

And what exactly is the reasoning behind that? What do you

1:21:15

do with the old ones? You smash them so no one

1:21:17

get the servers? Or what are you doing with the old

1:21:19

ones too? Or do you sell them? What do we do?

1:21:21

Oh no, I stack those up. You sell those things. You

1:21:23

know there's still stuff on those hard drives. They can get

1:21:26

that stuff. No, no, no, no, those hard

1:21:28

drives. No, I heard that's not real. No, if you

1:21:30

smash it. You hold those, that's a good point. That's

1:21:32

why I saw that in the news a couple years

1:21:34

back. Somebody I think they're doing that. They're like, oh,

1:21:37

yeah, they're gone. But yeah, I

1:21:39

do a new one just so it's a new, kind of

1:21:41

like opening a new notebook. If it was a notebook back

1:21:43

in the day, this is a new computer, like a new

1:21:45

school year. You'd have your new Trapper Keeper or something like

1:21:47

that back in the day. So now it's a MacBook Pro.

1:21:49

And get a new one to, it's probably

1:21:51

not the most economically feasible way to go about it.

1:21:55

You send emails instead of writing a note section, which is

1:21:57

the same amount of typing, more action.

1:21:59

But I might make some changes after this show.

1:22:02

No, no, don't want to yeah, please By

1:22:06

people like us this one when did this come

1:22:08

out for sale came out on Tuesday out there

1:22:10

now, okay So right now you're doing the book

1:22:12

tour in the book tour. Yeah. Okay, so we

1:22:14

go to bookstores Yeah book stores online audio people

1:22:16

love the audio reporter narrates these things and audio

1:22:18

crushes people love him So yeah, it's out there

1:22:21

everywhere books are sold boots the pavement though. This

1:22:23

is the normal process for authors That's is it

1:22:25

is that you're on tour you get to look

1:22:27

people in the eye shake their hand and thank

1:22:29

them in person I try to do that online

1:22:31

on the socials as much as I can but doing

1:22:33

it in person There's just something different about that. I

1:22:35

love it tonight. You'll be in Carmel, Indiana Carmel

1:22:38

Clay Public Library Carmel

1:22:40

by the way, I think he's been voted like one of

1:22:42

the best towns in America Yeah for time it

1:22:44

is a beautiful area. I assume there's gonna be a

1:22:46

lot of Red Scott morning

1:22:49

fans and I like the old schoolness of

1:22:51

like the author world, you know Like you

1:22:53

go out go to a bookstore go to

1:22:55

the library meet people that are you signing

1:22:57

it and kind of build up your base

1:22:59

I assume you feel like you have to do these

1:23:01

types of things But now you're at a stage where if

1:23:03

you put crop out what you'll never do people

1:23:06

would buy it But you never don't want

1:23:08

to test that theory, but I Mean,

1:23:10

I love going out there and saying hi to people and talking to them

1:23:13

and a lot of military law enforcement Firefighters come

1:23:15

through and exchange coins and all that so

1:23:17

it's really nice to thank those guys to

1:23:19

touch man Jack have

1:23:22

you noticed like especially with the prequel series

1:23:24

now Are you getting more involved with like

1:23:26

the TV production? aspect and like kind of

1:23:28

really getting your hands on crafting and creating

1:23:31

that and Maybe getting I

1:23:33

don't want to say more interested in that

1:23:35

than writing novels because obviously that's always gonna

1:23:37

be your bread and butter But through this

1:23:39

process have you kind of realized like oh,

1:23:41

I wouldn't mind actually like maybe

1:23:43

splitting this 50-50 with writing and and kind

1:23:45

Of producing television. Yeah, it's kind of turned

1:23:47

into a 50-50 thing Cuz there's

1:23:49

so much going on on the TV side of the

1:23:51

house prequel this next thing I have two other projects

1:23:53

out there that haven't been announced yet, but they're Outside

1:23:58

the James Reese terminal list universe Oh,

1:24:00

any sports stuff? There's

1:24:02

probably some football on the background of some scenes here

1:24:05

every now and again. A bar where someone

1:24:07

gets thrown through a window. I can see that happen. Okay,

1:24:09

sweet. If you need anybody to die. Yeah, put your eyes

1:24:11

out there. Yeah, we will die. Yeah, we

1:24:13

will die. Yeah, we will die. Obviously,

1:24:16

we're writing our stuff into somebody successful's things. So

1:24:18

we can ride your coattails. Oh,

1:24:20

man. Getting to learn about the

1:24:22

entire world that you are in has been awesome because

1:24:25

I watched the Chris Pratt terminal list. Yeah,

1:24:27

yeah. I don't watch a lot of

1:24:29

shit like I am ADD. I am move. I

1:24:31

mean, I've never finished a book in my entire

1:24:33

life. I might be the only human that is

1:24:35

semi successful as an adult that has never been

1:24:37

able to finish a book because it's on my

1:24:39

back. The audio book, though,

1:24:42

obviously a weapon. Then the series.

1:24:45

How close are the series to the books and

1:24:47

how hard is that to kind of

1:24:49

balance with that? Because I see a lot of the

1:24:51

book fans, readers out there, very loyal and passionate. Whenever

1:24:54

something comes out of the book is so much better.

1:24:56

They always say, but I watch that terminal series. I'm

1:24:58

like, I don't see how the fucking book can be.

1:25:01

And that's how do you balance that? Yeah. Well, I knew going into

1:25:03

it, there was going to be changes. I

1:25:05

know the book First Blood written in 1972 by David Morrell,

1:25:07

very different than the Sylvester Stallone movie in the early 80s.

1:25:09

Both awesome. And so I knew there was

1:25:12

going to be changes going in. So I didn't let that be

1:25:14

a surprise to me. So it's more

1:25:16

about staying true to the foundational elements of the

1:25:18

story, keeping that authenticity piece, staying true to the

1:25:20

mindset of a modern day warrior and then building

1:25:22

from there. Do your fans get pissed about some

1:25:24

of the things? Some people do, but everybody pictures

1:25:26

a character a little bit differently. So it's almost

1:25:28

impossible to have all the characters be exactly what's

1:25:30

in your head when you either hear it or

1:25:32

read it. So you just got to accept that

1:25:34

and just be thankful that you have a show.

1:25:37

I assume your fans worry that the TV thing is

1:25:39

going to dilute your talent from the book. That

1:25:42

seemingly is the overall narrative on mine. Whatever

1:25:44

I watch, like Game of Thrones, like any of

1:25:46

these other movies or shows that come from Harry

1:25:49

Potter. Yeah. Feels like the book people were always

1:25:51

like, this is not what this was supposed to

1:25:53

be. I assume you have to hear that. Yeah,

1:25:55

you'll hear that regard. But that means they love

1:25:57

you. It's like a compliment, but it's

1:25:59

also. I do look at it that way. If they're

1:26:01

so passionate about these characters and the storyline, it's a

1:26:03

little bit off or a little bit off of what

1:26:06

they had in their head and they're upset about it,

1:26:08

that just goes along with the whole deal. Connor

1:26:10

has crushed us. Do the best we can. Yeah, Jack. Yeah,

1:26:13

we're crushing it. Yeah, dominating. you

1:26:15

have to send your books to get approval just because

1:26:17

of how similar they are to what can happen in

1:26:20

real life and what information could be real. Is that

1:26:22

something you had to do with this story as well

1:26:24

or is this kind of a different process than the

1:26:26

other ones? Yep, I did it for the first three

1:26:28

and I appealed the second one and the third one

1:26:30

and then essentially the government told me that they didn't

1:26:32

want to take my appeal of some of the things

1:26:35

that they took out of the third one. So I

1:26:37

took that as them saying, hey kid,

1:26:39

we have some other stuff to deal with here

1:26:41

on the nonfiction side. It's actually serious. So kind

1:26:43

of be gone. So I didn't

1:26:45

do this one. And everything I learned for this

1:26:47

book about artificial intelligence, quantum computing, passive targeting, hypersonic

1:26:50

weapons, that all came from after my time

1:26:52

in the military because I had no touch points with

1:26:54

that stuff in the military. So for the past few

1:26:57

books, it's been things that I've researched already out of

1:26:59

the thought of the military. So yeah, they shouldn't. You

1:27:01

do a bunch of research for all these books that

1:27:03

are- I do a lot of research, yeah. Yeah, and

1:27:05

you reach out to people that have like real knowledge

1:27:07

on the situation. I do. And

1:27:10

that is, I think a massive piece of

1:27:12

the success of your shit, right? Because everything,

1:27:14

I know it's fiction, right? This is not

1:27:16

real people with real scenarios, but I think

1:27:18

anytime we hear or see something from you

1:27:20

because how plugged in you are, we're like,

1:27:22

oh, that's certainly feasible or possible in

1:27:24

somebody who knows eyes. Is that an accurate

1:27:26

way to kind of look at it? Well, I hope

1:27:28

so. I hope it's, I talk about it in terms

1:27:31

of fiction with whispers of truth. And

1:27:33

I hope nothing here comes to fruition

1:27:35

though. In my second book, it was

1:27:37

about a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Then

1:27:39

that actually happened a couple of years

1:27:41

later. Nice job, Jack. Well

1:27:44

done. Thanks, Jack. The Devil's Hand had a

1:27:46

pilot weapon piece to it that

1:27:48

was eerily similar to COVID. And

1:27:50

it was outlined before COVID hit. So I

1:27:52

hope nothing in this book. What do we need to

1:27:54

look out for? This one's a

1:27:56

rough one. This one's a rough one. So I really hope, yeah.

1:28:00

Yeah, they all were rough. Yeah, Bio, yeah. They're

1:28:02

one rough. They're all pretty

1:28:04

rough. How rude are we, Jeff? Yeah, this

1:28:07

one's rougher. This one has submarines, autonomous

1:28:09

control, certain military platforms that have access to

1:28:11

nuclear weapons, and this artificial

1:28:13

intelligence being this character that I

1:28:15

created a few years ago. She

1:28:18

has modeled her behavior off my main

1:28:20

character, James Reese, who has kind of

1:28:22

a penchant for revenge. So,

1:28:24

things get a little dicey. No, but we control

1:28:27

the AI, right? That's the thing.

1:28:29

I mean, my phone updated the other night, and all of

1:28:32

a sudden, it starts finishing my sentences. So, I don't know.

1:28:34

That's that Apple thing. It makes it very hard to

1:28:36

op out of. I don't know. I don't know. Tony

1:28:39

has a question for you, Jackie. He looks freaked out.

1:28:43

Is this about China? Got a little

1:28:45

China. Yeah, with China, Taiwan, US. It's

1:28:47

really a book about loyalty and questions

1:28:49

of loyalty, but it's through the dynamic

1:28:51

of US, China, Taiwan conflict. Are we

1:28:54

more or less screwed today versus, let's

1:28:56

say, five years ago? With

1:28:58

your research. Yeah. With

1:29:01

your research? Oh, yeah. More? More.

1:29:04

No doubt. Okay. So,

1:29:07

military folks, I love your books. Yeah. Military

1:29:09

law enforcement. Well, it's interesting how many women are

1:29:11

coming to the book signings, because I thought usually

1:29:14

that they're picking them up for somebody else, but

1:29:16

no, they're reading these things. Hey, that happens with

1:29:18

our show. People don't expect it, but like ...

1:29:20

Well, I can see why. They would gravitate. No,

1:29:22

they hate this show. People hate this show. Yeah.

1:29:25

No. I'm not going to say

1:29:27

that. The super handsome AJ Hawk, I think that

1:29:29

is probably potentially what it is. No, but I

1:29:31

think a lot of people with

1:29:33

your show, the terminalists, I heard about

1:29:36

it, I saw it, I looked at it, and

1:29:38

I'm like, holy shit, this is phenomenal. It

1:29:41

doesn't matter where you're from, what you do. If something's

1:29:43

good, you're going to be attracted to. I think the

1:29:46

last time we talked to you, you were on a

1:29:48

big drive and mission for reading to become bigger

1:29:51

and still remain because of

1:29:53

how it affected your life growing

1:29:55

up, I think. You're still on the

1:29:57

campaign for literacy and everything like that, right? I love that. these

1:30:00

events and they told me they haven't read a

1:30:02

book since high school or haven't read a book

1:30:04

since junior high or they're a brand new reader,

1:30:06

they never read anything, they weren't assigned in school

1:30:09

and now they love reading. So I'm definitely on

1:30:11

a mission to create more readers. I think it

1:30:13

was General Mattis, he said something around the lines

1:30:15

of there's functionally, there's no difference between someone who

1:30:17

can't read and someone who doesn't read, but that

1:30:20

was pretty interesting. Ooh, so I read on Twitter.

1:30:22

You listen, that's the same. Yeah, I listen, I

1:30:24

read on Twitter, they're just 140 characters. You use

1:30:26

not anymore, yeah. Yeah, those long ones, I'm not

1:30:28

opening. So I'm just

1:30:30

gonna be pretty transparent that I am, I'm

1:30:33

not reading the long ones, but it is

1:30:35

like reading is so like pivotal,

1:30:37

like we had a book club with Aaron Rodgers.

1:30:39

Now some of these book, what was the one

1:30:41

he picked? The Eyes of the Gods,

1:30:44

the Egyptian one. It was

1:30:46

4,000 pages. This is a weekly book club,

1:30:48

he put a Bible out, a footprints of the gods or

1:30:50

something like that. It seems like he wants to get you

1:30:52

guys to quit. That's a big book to start with. Well,

1:30:54

it was in the middle actually, it wasn't even to start

1:30:56

with, it was like the third one. Doubles

1:30:59

as a blunt impact weapon or a doorstop. So

1:31:01

yeah, big one. It's one of those. You can

1:31:03

do all sorts of things. Okay, so when you're

1:31:05

writing, you know that there's gonna be people

1:31:07

that are new to reading in this. Well, like what level

1:31:09

would you say that your books are? Because it can't be

1:31:12

too shallow. Obviously you have to have sophistication to it, but

1:31:14

you're also bringing in a lot of new humans

1:31:16

to the genre. So how do you balance that?

1:31:18

And how would you dictate the reading level of

1:31:20

book if you had to? Yeah, for me, it's

1:31:22

all about the story, and

1:31:24

everybody's gonna have a different reading level. Let's say sixth grade

1:31:26

is where I started reading these kind of books. So the

1:31:29

same kind of books my parents were reading was sixth grade

1:31:31

for sure. But everybody else is,

1:31:33

everybody's gonna be at a different level. Some people

1:31:35

might start in fifth grade, some people seventh, eighth,

1:31:37

maybe high school, but certainly by high school. What

1:31:39

we're saying is, doofuses can read this. That's

1:31:42

not- Or listen to it. It's

1:31:44

a question for you. What about like how, obviously

1:31:46

it's in the series, but do you intentionally make

1:31:48

it accessible? So if someone has never read any

1:31:50

of the other books prior to it, that they

1:31:52

could still read this one, and they're not gonna

1:31:54

be completely lost and not know who any of

1:31:56

the characters are. Exactly, you gotta do that. in

1:31:58

a way that's interesting for readers that have read

1:32:01

all the other books, but then also give some

1:32:03

background for people that are new to it. And

1:32:05

I try to think of creative ways to do

1:32:07

that. In The Devil's Hand, I

1:32:09

had my character James Reese hooked up to a

1:32:11

lie detector, a polygraph, at CIA headquarters, and they're

1:32:13

asking him questions, and that kind of brings everybody

1:32:15

up to speed. In the last one, I had

1:32:17

him locked in solitary confinement, so he's having essentially

1:32:19

a conversation with himself to stay sane. And so

1:32:21

I try to get creative about how I catch

1:32:23

people up. What do we do in this one?

1:32:26

That one right there is a conversation.

1:32:30

One of the more popular characters,

1:32:32

Jonathan Hastings, who has a background

1:32:34

in Rhodesia in Africa, and

1:32:36

a conversation between him and my main character, which

1:32:38

is probably one of my favorite chapters I have

1:32:40

yet written. And no one's getting their head chopped

1:32:42

off, no one's blowing up, no cars are going

1:32:44

off, bridges or anything like that. It's just a

1:32:46

conversation, but it's probably my favorite chapter to date.

1:32:48

And you have a little whiskey when you're writing

1:32:50

this. I do have a little whiskey late at

1:32:52

night, maybe a little wine, depending on how things

1:32:54

are going. And then are you putting yourself into

1:32:56

the character's body? Like what would this character say?

1:32:58

And then, well, how would this character answer when you're

1:33:01

writing? Is that what you're doing? I don't know if

1:33:03

I'm doing it in that conscious, but I'm definitely trying

1:33:05

to see the world through the character's eyes. So I

1:33:07

put myself in the enemy's shoes, give

1:33:09

a little background from his perspective or her perspective

1:33:11

in this case. And so

1:33:13

I definitely do that. That would be the same as I put

1:33:15

myself in their shoes like that. Tom Brady asked Colin Cowherd that,

1:33:18

told Colin Cowherd that he asked some friends of his that do

1:33:20

TV. And he was like, how do I know if I did

1:33:22

a good job? You know, cause like football, if you win, you

1:33:25

did a good job. Good job. You throw a

1:33:27

couple touches, you did a good job. Like when it's come

1:33:29

commentating, it's like, you don't know for an

1:33:31

author, how do you like, you gotta be on

1:33:33

the lines of being one of the greatest of

1:33:35

all time at this stage. And is that something

1:33:37

you think about? And what is the goal to

1:33:39

get to in the authoring world? New York Times

1:33:41

bestseller every, every time you release a

1:33:44

book, it's made into a series. It's one of the

1:33:46

most popular series on earth. It's like, I don't know

1:33:48

what other things authors are trying to do, but I think

1:33:50

that is probably the goal. Where do you stand goal

1:33:52

wise and do you view it that way? Yeah, I

1:33:54

don't really think of it that way, but certainly number one

1:33:56

New York Times best-selling author and having a show, that's

1:33:58

all wonderful. But for me, it's Is this book

1:34:00

better than the last one? And if I can honestly

1:34:02

say yes, then that's success to me. So I want

1:34:04

the next book after this to be better than this

1:34:07

one. And I think every book that I finished has

1:34:09

been my favorite. So up to this point, that's worked

1:34:11

out. So for me, that's success. Jeez. Unreal. That's

1:34:14

gonna get tough, bro. Yeah. I'm

1:34:16

happy you're a mentally tough guy, like a Navy SEAL.

1:34:18

Yeah. Is

1:34:20

this one better than, nope, spit it out, gonna do

1:34:22

it again. Let me go ahead and rewrite this. How

1:34:24

many times have you got to rewrite shit? It's, you

1:34:27

get through it once, and then I go back a little

1:34:29

bit and edit as I go. They tell you not to

1:34:31

do that. They say, just finish it and get it done.

1:34:33

But I go back as I think of something new, and

1:34:35

I read the last stuff that I've read, and I kind

1:34:37

of edit along the way because I'm researching along the way.

1:34:40

I'm trying to refine along the way. And then once it's

1:34:42

all done, then I go back to the beginning and I

1:34:44

try to read it like a reader or a listener for

1:34:46

the first time and put myself in that first time reader

1:34:48

position and go through it with my red pen, make edits

1:34:50

that way. How, you judging yourself pretty hard? Well, what a

1:34:52

stupid long term. Every now and again,

1:34:54

but not often. That's a

1:34:56

Navy SEAL. Yeah, exactly. A.J.

1:34:59

has a question for you, Jack. Yeah,

1:35:01

Jack, I know you mentioned passive targeting. Can

1:35:03

you explain exactly what that may be? And

1:35:05

also, what about aliens? Any aliens in your

1:35:07

books? And what do you think about the

1:35:09

whole situation? Aliens had to run for what?

1:35:12

Six, eight months ago. Now it seems

1:35:14

like they've died down. Now it's multidimensional.

1:35:16

And we're distracted by other things. You

1:35:18

know, they're like squirrels. So no aliens

1:35:20

anymore. And no aliens yet. But this

1:35:23

character, this Alice that I call her,

1:35:25

this quantum computer. She's

1:35:27

close to being a sentient being. So,

1:35:30

but what was the first part of that one?

1:35:32

So, I got an A. Passive

1:35:34

targeting. So, passive member, top gun. Remember, they're flying

1:35:36

and you hear the, looking for missile lock. And

1:35:39

it's like, ding, ding. So, they've got the missile

1:35:41

lock. And you go, so you know that you've

1:35:43

been targeted by something. So, there's new technologies out

1:35:45

there that allow for those missiles to lock and

1:35:47

fire without that ping knowing that you've been targeted.

1:35:50

So, that's passive targeting. Oh, so you do research

1:35:52

into that. And you ask somebody who's like a

1:35:54

fighter pilot. And you go, hey, what's the newest

1:35:56

thing that kind of creeps you out? Oh, yeah,

1:35:58

I can have a missile on my ass and

1:36:00

I don't even know now. Yeah. And that's what

1:36:03

they tell you. And they're like, well, that seems

1:36:05

like something we should. Exactly. So passive targeting combined

1:36:07

with hypersonic missiles, which are the ones that are

1:36:09

just essentially going to get here before we before

1:36:11

our generals are even out of bed. So you

1:36:13

combine those two things and then the decision making

1:36:16

process with AI and quantum computing. So the decision

1:36:18

making process is very rapid on the enemy side,

1:36:20

which means that we have to in turn even

1:36:22

faster. So what does that mean? It means probably

1:36:24

we're moving towards autonomous control of many different weapons

1:36:26

platforms and all of these new next generation platforms

1:36:29

are being built so they can be they have

1:36:31

that capability. So if they're not now, they'll at

1:36:33

least have that capability to be autonomously controls. How

1:36:35

do we protect them, though? How do we protect

1:36:37

from not shooting everybody out of the sky or,

1:36:39

you know, shooting everything? What if they are autonomous

1:36:42

and they just decide to fire away? Well, that's

1:36:44

the question right there. Yeah. Yeah,

1:36:46

because we're going to have. So basically what you just

1:36:48

said is we it has to be autonomous so it

1:36:50

can be fast enough because humans aren't going to be

1:36:52

able to fast enough to react or whatever. So we

1:36:54

have to give the computer independence to basically react itself.

1:36:56

But what if the computer is wrong? There's

1:36:59

that as well. So that's your whole thing. There's all these

1:37:01

things that I explore in the pages

1:37:03

of these novels. So it ended up being essentially a

1:37:05

warning about this autonomous control of these platforms. Because like

1:37:08

I said, they're not probably there yet, but they have

1:37:10

the capability to be autonomously controlled in the future for

1:37:12

these platforms that are coming out in 5, 6, 7,

1:37:14

8, 9, 10 years. I

1:37:16

freaked out. I don't have a question for you.

1:37:19

We were talking about recently. I think it was

1:37:21

yesterday or two days ago, Olympic swimming. And how

1:37:23

long did you have to hold your breath when

1:37:25

you were active Navy's to as long as it

1:37:27

took? How long could

1:37:29

you hold your breath? We practiced these exercises and I

1:37:32

describe them in one or two books back. You breathe

1:37:34

all the way out, hold your breath, hold it for

1:37:36

five seconds. Take a breath in, hold it for five

1:37:38

out, hold it for 10 in, hold it for 10.

1:37:41

And you just keep going every day with those exercises

1:37:43

until you can get up to a minute, a minute

1:37:45

and a half, two minutes, somewhere, somewhere around there. Some

1:37:47

guys can hold their breath for a long, long time,

1:37:49

but probably about a minute, minute and a half gift

1:37:53

as long as it takes to untie these knots that they make

1:37:55

you tie and untie at the bottom of the pool. And then

1:37:57

the instructor is looking at it and he's looking at you and

1:37:59

he has to. to give you an okay and a thumbs up

1:38:01

to let you know you did it right. And sometimes they just

1:38:03