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what's up. I'm Cody co and Welcome to the Pleasure

1:00

is Ours, the podcast in which

1:02

we examine some of the worst advice people

1:04

hear their whole lives and try to make it

1:06

better. I guarantee you all of these

1:08

pieces of advice have been marketed to you over

1:11

and over again as good. But

1:13

you have been lied to, my friend, and it

1:15

is my job to explain how and why

1:18

a man you haven't troubled with

1:20

life won't let

1:22

me give you some advice. First of all,

1:25

all the ship that they all told you was right is

1:27

not right. I'll explain. Just give me a second

1:29

of your time. You see, they tell you just

1:31

to be yourself, But what

1:34

happens if you're fucking lame? I'm just

1:36

kidding. You're not lame, You're a treasure. I'll

1:38

show you how to get there. You would be our pleasure.

1:45

Take it till you make it might be the most

1:47

widely used and abused phrase we

1:49

ever dissect on this show, but this

1:51

one really begs the question is this a coherent

1:53

thought or does it just rhyme? Let's

1:56

get into it. This one is interesting

1:58

to me because I don't hate it, like, for

2:00

example, no one that puts proficient

2:02

in Microsoft Excel on their resume, has

2:05

ever attempted to actually make a spreadsheet.

2:07

That's just a widely accepted social contract

2:09

we've all agreed to, and it's a victimless crime.

2:11

But on the opposite end of the spectrum, if

2:14

you pretend you're a doctor to pick up chicks, you

2:16

may find yourself attempting CPR on someone's

2:18

Grandma Lloyd Christmas style. And

2:20

now your love interest has gone and Marjorie

2:23

is on our way to the Pearly gates. What I'm trying to

2:25

say is you got to choose your lies wisely

2:27

or the ruse will come crashing down on you like a

2:29

house of cards. Today I'm joined by

2:32

one of my absolute favorite funny people in

2:34

the game. You know him from his live performances

2:36

all over the US as well as YouTube, Instagram,

2:38

TikTok and Vine. You guys

2:41

can't see me right now, but I'm you know, I'm pouring one

2:43

out for Vine. I'm talking, of course

2:45

about my boy Drew Gooden. Welcome

2:47

to the show, Drew, who else? Who

2:50

else? I'm talking, of course about

2:52

my close boy Drew

2:55

Gooden. We're close boys. I haven't seen

2:57

you in a long time. Yeah, we approx

3:00

mnywise, not so close. I'm on the other end of the country.

3:02

But relationship wise, I think very

3:04

highly of you. And based on that intro, it

3:06

sounds like you return that sentiment

3:09

to me. So thinks no worries.

3:11

Yeah, no worries. I was reading off a thing, but totally

3:14

I feel that way. Did you? Did you write

3:16

it? At least or someone else wrote that? Was

3:19

someone else? But I mean I feel pretty

3:21

good about Well, wait, who wrote it? I want to be

3:23

there. Friends. They

3:25

seemed to really like me. I'll give you Dave's

3:28

number. You guys can Dave awesome?

3:30

Oh I know Dave. Yeah, Dave.

3:32

Yeah, you're close, boy, Dave, We

3:36

are close. Boys. Listen,

3:38

I haven't seen you since we

3:40

were both in Louisville.

3:43

And we're at that bar that has

3:46

golfing inside the gulf

3:49

simulator. Which that's when you know you're at

3:51

a where you're at a dope establishment, is when they have

3:53

an indoor golf simulator. Yeah,

3:55

that is the only bar I've ever been to that

3:57

had an indoor golf simulator. And also

3:59

that night I had the best pizza I've ever had

4:01

in my life. It was just Papa John's. But I was drunk

4:03

and it was after after a show and you always

4:06

feel great after a show, and were like two

4:08

drinks, best pizza ever, and like, let

4:10

me ask you, let me ask you this. We were

4:12

talking a little bit that night about

4:15

performing and because that was you

4:17

and Danny's first tour, second

4:19

tour, first one, first tour, one

4:21

of one and you guys

4:23

wrote it and rehearsed

4:26

it and then performed all over the United States. Right,

4:28

yes, and this is like and

4:31

it was a comedy show. Uh

4:35

that's perspective. Yes, it was

4:37

supposed to be. It was supposed to be a comedy show. I

4:39

think it turned out pretty funny. I think it was

4:41

a learning experience. A lot of things we planned.

4:44

It actually evolved a lot as it when we cut some

4:46

things out after the first show. There were things we

4:48

did in the first show we never did again. But

4:51

overall, fun experience and I think we're

4:53

both pretty proud of our the end product.

4:56

But I feel like this is a good segue

4:58

into what I was just talking about in the

5:00

intro, is that like, what did you feel like were

5:02

you faking it when you first got up on stage?

5:04

Because it's it's a tough

5:06

I mean I think I feel like a lot of people, you

5:08

know, they they're trained. They

5:10

they spend their entire life performing

5:13

to get to a point where they're able to do

5:16

a show like that. But I feel like with YouTube, it's

5:18

just a little like shortcut and we like to just

5:20

like, oh, now we're on stage, hie.

5:23

Yeah. It's almost um

5:25

insulting to other

5:28

performers. How quickly we're just like

5:30

we made some videos on the internet, we can do live

5:32

shows in front of a thousand plus people.

5:35

Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna do it now. By the way, what

5:38

you guys, We're just gonna do that. So

5:40

we're gonna do it. Yeah, never done

5:42

it before. All the Soul shows already sold

5:44

out. That's how it's like a slap in the

5:46

face to these like trained theater

5:49

performers. But there's a lot,

5:51

there's a lot of faking and involved every single night.

5:53

I was extremely nervous. Um,

5:56

that's just sort of this state I'm in through

5:58

most of life. But espec Actually, when

6:01

you have like an eight o'clock

6:03

show and you have nothing to do all day

6:05

but think about everything that could go wrong,

6:08

you just kind of have to lie to yourself and

6:10

say everything's gonna be okay, even when

6:12

you know deep down there's a chance it might not be

6:15

totally. That was always the worst for

6:17

me too. I would get so nervous and

6:20

even trying to work, like

6:22

be productive during the day because you have all

6:24

day just to do whatever the fuck. But

6:26

I could never get this snagging feeling out of

6:28

my mind. That's like, you're you're gonna go up on stage

6:30

at the end of this day and you're probably

6:32

gonna sunk up. Yeah, and

6:35

the only way, I mean, it's sort of dulls

6:38

the more we did it, Yeah, I think so too.

6:40

Yeah, never went away. But I

6:42

feel like I actually feel like I felt

6:45

this in most of my life, Like even when I was a software

6:47

engineer, my very first

6:49

job in l A. I thought I was way underqualified

6:52

for and I got the job

6:54

and I showed up just nervous as

6:56

funk my very first day, and

6:58

I ended up being you know, it ended up being a great job and I

7:00

got along with the team just fine. But I feel like

7:02

this is just a reoccurring theme in my life, just completely

7:05

just being like a fraud.

7:08

Yeah, that's a good word. I

7:11

was gonna say, going in blind, maybe but no, yeah,

7:13

we're just straight up frauds. Frauds were criminals.

7:16

Yeah. No. I had a job like that too, where

7:18

I had no qualifications

7:21

whatsoever, and my dad's friend

7:23

hooked me up with a job I was very

7:26

underqualified for. It was like, there's carpentery

7:28

involved, wiring of like led

7:30

life and stuff, things I'd never done in my life before, and I just

7:32

kind of showed up and pretended like I

7:34

belonged. But wait, when was this? That

7:37

was when I was like twenty three, I might

7:40

so my job history is, uh,

7:42

snow cone restaurant, fast food restaurant, different

7:44

fast food restaurant, carpenter. Okay,

7:48

yeah, that was natural, the natural progression.

7:51

Yeah, yeah, I was.

7:53

It was you know, it was always coming. Um.

7:56

But I feel like the then diagram of snow

7:58

cone skills and car tree, there's

8:00

actually a lot in the middle. It's

8:02

almost entirely just one big circle. You

8:06

work with power tools,

8:09

that's actually about it. I remember making snow

8:11

cones. We had a big machine that I was scared of because

8:13

if I put my hand in there, it would not come

8:15

out. So my dad's friend who

8:17

hired me, was doing me a huge favor because I just wanted

8:20

a decent paying job that wasn't

8:22

fast food. And but all

8:24

the other people working there were like these older men who had

8:26

been doing it for twenty thirty years and they're

8:28

just like man, they would get so

8:30

annoyed at me. They'd be like, they asked,

8:32

they asked me to hand them a tool and I didn't

8:35

know what it was and they describe it

8:37

to me and I'd be like, I still don't know what

8:39

that is. Oh, so like they didn't

8:41

get mad at you because they were like gate keeping the

8:44

construction job. That might have

8:46

been part of it. There might have been some resentment where it's like this, fucking

8:48

kid, you can't just walk in here and use

8:50

tools. Yeah, you

8:52

gotta go to carpentry school for ten

8:55

years, you know what. I don't know what the normal

8:57

procedure would be, but yeah, no, it was

8:59

just because I was bad at everything and it made their job

9:01

even harder. Like

9:04

I feel bad almost when when I we

9:06

we did the Montreal Comedy Festival, talking

9:09

to like, you know and speaking with like legitimate

9:11

comedians like after the show, talking

9:14

about like touring and stuff like that, and I just felt

9:16

like a fucking fraud, Like they're like, what, you can

9:18

just do this now? Did they say stuff

9:20

like that to you or you just felt that from

9:22

them? They didn't say that, nobody

9:24

actually ever said it, but I feel like they're thinking

9:27

that right right. I was gonna say if they were just

9:29

like I just gave you like the cold shoulder,

9:32

Uh, that'd be really funny.

9:34

Um. And I guess they kind of deserved

9:36

to do that. I don't know. That's how I

9:38

would feel so infuri in a room

9:40

like that. I'm glad

9:42

that I was not in that situation. What

9:45

about like when you started doing content, you

9:47

used to edit for someone? Right? I

9:49

did? Yeah, I edited for Thomas Sanders,

9:52

Yes, Thomas Sanders. And did you know

9:54

how to edit before that? Like? Is that something you just jumped

9:56

into? And that's That's actually another good

9:59

thing for this topic because it was very similar

10:01

and I guess Thomas is hearing this now. I did

10:04

have some familiarity with like Adobe

10:06

permiter, but I learned so

10:08

much stuff from doing that job

10:11

for him, for editing, from editing for

10:13

him, because it'd be like

10:16

he'd be like, hey, can you do this, and I'd be like, yes,

10:18

I know how to do that, and then I would google how to do

10:20

that men figure it out. There was a lot of

10:22

faking it, but it always worked out. If

10:25

I had the editing experience that I have now,

10:27

If I had this experience, then I could

10:29

have edited everything like three times as fast. Right.

10:33

Still, I got everything done for

10:35

the most part when I needed to, and I learned a lot

10:37

in the process. So thank you Thomas for that job.

10:41

Thomas, if you're listening, which I

10:43

know you are, don't sue me. I

10:46

knew a little bit about editing. Wait, I could

10:48

get sued for this ship. Cut that out.

10:52

I feel like that's the best way to approach something

10:54

new things, new challenges is you gotta scratch the service,

10:56

get a little bit, get get informed

10:58

a little bit, and then just dive the funk in

11:00

and that's how you learn. Yeah, that's the

11:03

best way to learn ship. You just hope that

11:05

you get the opportunity to do that because a lot

11:07

of employers will not have the same mindset

11:09

where they're like, oh, you don't you kind of know what you're doing, but not

11:11

really, I'd rather hire hire someone else with

11:13

you know, ten years of experience. My

11:16

actually, my very first job in l A.

11:18

I started the job on like an off week

11:20

because they pay you every two weeks. And so I started

11:22

and I didn't get paid for three weeks, and we got this apartment

11:24

and I had to pay rent, and so I

11:27

someone texted me or I

11:29

answered a job posting or something for an

11:32

app that someone wanted built, and

11:34

I answered it and I said, I can do this, even though I couldn't,

11:37

but I said, I've never written like an app

11:39

privately for someone from start to finish

11:41

before, besides myself never done

11:43

the client work before ever. But I said, I was a contractor

11:46

and I was a software guy, and this is what I this

11:48

is what I do, And so he's like, okay, let's

11:50

do it. Uh. The app that I want is

11:52

a messenger app where my friends and I can

11:54

send each other pictures of bananas all day.

11:57

And that's it, not typing, not in anything,

11:59

just send we want to send

12:01

pictures of bananas to each other. You

12:03

know, there's already an app for that. You just

12:06

have to set that limitation yourself. You

12:08

could just make it. And I was like, why can't you just do it?

12:10

And I message He's like, it's an inside joke and

12:13

it would really mean a lot to me. And

12:15

so I. I did it somehow. I just

12:17

went on these programm reforms figured

12:20

out how to do it, and I made Banana Graham and I

12:22

that's how I paid my rent the very first

12:24

week I was in l A. Yeah,

12:28

I know, all

12:32

right, Drew. Let's talk about women. You're

12:34

married, right, sure, I am.

12:37

When you met your wife, did you like,

12:39

were you faking it? You know? Because I feel like when you when you're

12:41

on a first date, that's another thing. Is you

12:43

gotta like pretend you're way cooler than you are?

12:46

Right? Are you saying I'm not cool, You're cool?

12:48

But I'm saying, uh no, So I

12:52

yes, I I think more so, I would say

12:54

with my previous relationships, I think by the

12:56

time I got to her, I had kind of had

12:58

some authentic fidence. Plus

13:01

my my current wife, current wife

13:03

as my

13:06

wife as of today. Uh

13:08

So we met through fine, we met online

13:11

and did long distance for a little bit. So our first date

13:13

was like four months in. Wait,

13:15

four months in. You were guys who were a boyfriend

13:18

and girlfriend, but like online, Yes,

13:20

so we had met online. We were we FaceTime,

13:22

we talked on the phone, did a lot of you know, but we didn't

13:24

actually meet in person until we've already been talking for about

13:27

some months, and at that point there's so

13:29

so much built up anticipation and

13:32

pressure. No amount of faking

13:34

confidence in the world could get me to feel

13:36

confident. That night, it was like, so

13:40

I was so nervous, she was so nervous.

13:43

And we also I

13:45

picked her up at the airport at like eleven PM,

13:47

so we don't even have like a whole day to kind of ease

13:49

into it. It's like the first time we're seeing each other, it's like,

13:52

hey, and we're gonna go to bed now and

13:55

see you in the morning, and then to meet

13:57

you, you want to head back to my place. It

14:00

was just but then you know, everything was

14:02

fine the next day, but it was just like it's

14:05

you can be so confident and feel like you really know

14:07

someone, but then the moment you meet

14:09

them in person, see them for the first time, it's

14:11

like you have no idea what to say. So

14:14

that's okay though, right. I think the lesson is

14:16

that both people feel like that probably yeah,

14:18

and I think it's okay to acknowledge that awkwardness.

14:20

I think that was the situation where it would have been

14:22

worse if I was faking it if I was trying to like, oh,

14:25

this is normal, this is cool. Getting

14:27

having both of us acknowledge the awkwardness

14:29

of the situation is actually beneficial,

14:31

I think, right, because I guess

14:33

faking in that sense would be like playing

14:36

way too confident, like a funk boy. Like

14:38

yeah, she's like, I'm not sure

14:41

how to read your emotions. You just kind of

14:43

like too cool, And

14:45

it's like never mind. You can take her out

14:47

of the airport and you're like, yeah, should we get out of here because

14:49

some go someplace more quiet. She's like, well,

14:52

I would hope, so most places

14:54

are quieter than the place where planes

14:56

take off from. So then

14:59

and then it blossomed from there. It did blossom

15:01

actually pretty quickly. That night was weird, But then the next day

15:03

we went to Universal Studios at a very fun

15:05

day and it was just kind of smooth sailing from there.

15:08

And then we got married the

15:10

next day. Wow.

15:14

Again, a classic love story. Classic

15:16

love story. Four months long distance, one

15:19

night together, then you're married.

15:21

I gotta say, I feel like one thing that

15:23

I'm really bad at that

15:26

maybe everyone is really bad at that.

15:28

People fake all the time is dirty talk. I'm

15:31

just not a natural at it and so and people

15:33

like it. That's the thing, right, Like when

15:35

you're with someone, they like to hear it.

15:38

But you just, especially when you're first starting

15:40

to like have sex and stuff like that, you just

15:43

try to replicate what you see in porn, which

15:46

is all wrong, every the

15:48

opposite of what you should be doing, and

15:51

saying yeah,

15:53

it's the worst frame

15:55

of reference. Uh yeah, you

15:57

like you like that big my big

16:00

asked cheeks. Do you like?

16:02

That's what I say? That's what I say.

16:06

I guess yeah,

16:09

No, it's dirty talk is very unnatural.

16:12

But I do think that's another thing where that generally

16:15

goes both ways. It's you're both

16:17

kind of faking the confidence with that where

16:20

and maybe maybe I'm wrong, but in my experience,

16:22

maybe it's just my awkwardness rubbing off on

16:24

the other person involved. But it

16:26

does seem like, you

16:29

know, trying to stake yourself seriously

16:31

in that moment can sometimes be difficult, and

16:34

sometimes you just gotta laugh.

16:37

Have you ever faked an orgasm?

16:40

I know that's a weird question for you know,

16:42

a close boy to ask another close boy

16:45

only while jerking off.

16:47

What No,

16:51

I just I don't want to insult.

16:53

I didn't want to insult myself. Yeah,

16:56

I felt like I was doing such a good job. I didn't

16:58

want to make myself think I was in fear here, so

17:00

I just pretended to be done with Oh, that was

17:02

great, and then fell right asleep. Yo,

17:05

you were so good. I

17:08

have never done

17:10

so in a sexual environment,

17:13

nor have I needed to. And that's all I'll say

17:15

about that. Okay, have you ever done it?

17:17

Have you ever done it in a non sexual Oh?

17:20

I have. I actually have really

17:23

my very first like not very first,

17:25

but one of the first acting classes that I ever

17:27

took. The teacher on the very first

17:29

day, the teacher made me get up in fake an orgasm

17:32

in front of the class. Oh,

17:34

because it was like an exercise in like dropping

17:36

your ego and learning how to like just you

17:39

know, be yourself and not

17:41

embarrassed. I heard the word class

17:44

before acting. That just how that's

17:46

how it registered my brain. I was teaching just like a

17:48

regular class where yes, calculus

17:51

actually in junior year.

17:54

Junior year, the teacher Cody, why don't you get

17:56

up in fake an orgasm because you just got that question wrong.

18:00

Yeah, I think a lot of orgasms here.

18:03

That's a that's interesting. I mean that is. Yeah, that's a

18:05

good point. Like I haven't taken like an acting class, but improv.

18:07

You know, I've taken improv classes. That is sort of letting

18:10

go of your ego, letting go of yourself. That is

18:12

an interesting exercise that more

18:14

people should do. More people should take an orgasm,

18:17

more people should Yes, that's actually should be

18:19

part of your morning routine. Actually,

18:21

I would, I would. I would suggest people say meditate,

18:24

and I would say add onto that, just go ahead and

18:26

bust a nut, you know, but don't

18:28

actually just fake it at the end

18:30

of the meditation. That's when you when

18:33

the meditation climaxes, is with a

18:35

fake orgasm. Yeah, I feel like that's truly

18:38

jumping in the deep end, you know, the stuff

18:40

that they make you do the warmups for an

18:42

improv or an acting class or something that's just

18:44

like just fucking

18:46

be weird and

18:49

drop every guard that you have.

18:52

That's kind of what improv is all about. Is

18:54

uh, fake until you make it is sort

18:57

of the mantra of improv

18:59

because a lot of times you're thrust into a scene

19:02

that has no direction or anything,

19:04

and you just hope that you know where

19:07

I failed an improv A lot was I would come

19:09

I would come out like kind of timid, But

19:11

you've got to just go into it

19:13

even if you don't know what the fun is going on. Usually

19:16

that confidence is rewarded and things start to

19:18

make sense. But if you're just sort of like you're

19:20

both at both people in the sceners are like, I don't

19:22

know what's happening. It's just never gonna go anywhere.

19:25

Yeah, I agree, But that's like all the way on the end of

19:27

the spectrum where you have to give it your all and

19:29

just not give a funk, whereas, like I feel like most

19:31

jobs you have to have a little bit of that

19:33

where you're like, Okay, I'm just gonna jump in and see

19:35

what's good, but you have to like also have

19:38

your ship together a little bit. Yeah, if you're

19:40

like a firefighter, you know, you don't want

19:42

to pretend you know how to put

19:44

out fires. You're just gonna walk into your like

19:46

do I use my body to put the

19:48

fire out? Just walk straight into it, way

19:51

too confident it's not gonna end. Well,

19:53

yeah, I guess there's there's also a scenario on

19:56

the complete opposite side, where you where

19:58

you're going to first date with someone say, and

20:01

you're like, yeah, I'm vegan. They're

20:03

like awesome, me too, Like, yeah,

20:05

I love being vegan and eating

20:08

things that you know, grow and all

20:10

that stuff. It's sick. Yeah. I like to

20:12

eat grass and yeah you have no

20:14

idea grass, wheat, grass

20:17

smoothies, grass of grass.

20:20

M I like to smoke grass. Oh

20:22

hell yeah, dude, I'm a big time grass

20:24

smoker. I Meanwhile, she's

20:26

like, yes, yes, yes, I am too. I am

20:28

too. And then fast forward what like a

20:31

month, and then you're vegan. Yeah,

20:33

yeah, you just are vegan. Now like you're just

20:35

stuck. God forbid. Things go really

20:37

well. You move in together. Now

20:40

now you're faced with the dilemma of like, do

20:42

I continue this lie to preserve

20:45

the relationship or do I just come clean

20:47

knowing that everything could come crashing

20:50

down. Yes, and I think the right

20:52

answer is preserved. The lie live

20:54

a lie. You are in too deep. You

20:57

want to fake it till you make it, until you're absolutely

20:59

living at one hundred percent lie and you're

21:01

another another person completely Yeah,

21:03

until yeah, you physically transform,

21:06

you have just you look completely different.

21:08

I think in general with relationships, there's

21:10

a lot of examples these days

21:13

with the state of technology and all that, a

21:15

lot of examples of people faking aspects

21:18

about themselves before they even meet, before

21:20

the relationship even starts. I feel like that's

21:22

always been a thing, though you can do it more now

21:24

with dating apps. Like if you go on a dating app and then

21:26

you see in their profile literally that they're like

21:28

I love sailing, then

21:31

you can go and be like, you know, you research

21:33

sailing before your first day, Whereas before

21:36

I feel like it's always been a thing. Someone

21:38

says, you know, someone says, oh, I love hiking,

21:41

and the other person's like just in the moment, like, yeah, me too,

21:43

Oh yeah hiking this morning?

21:45

Yeah, I just just got you. See we're in hiking

21:47

boots right now. Cool. Where did you hike?

21:50

Oh? The Appellations? That's

21:52

awesome. I'll you should take me there.

21:54

I've always wanted to hike that. That's my

21:56

dream. Do you want to go right now? Yes? Se

22:01

is going well, Yeah, things are going great.

22:03

I think we might seal the deal later tonight on

22:05

top of the Appalachian Mountains. Wait

22:07

till you hear my dirty talk man all hiking themes

22:10

he was getting. I

22:15

am, Yeah, yeah, you like my granola?

22:18

What that's what that is. I

22:21

thought that was your balls. Try

22:26

and find the M and m's. I don't know,

22:29

you know, I have no idea what I'm talking about anymore,

22:31

but it's okay, that's the point.

22:34

I'm faking it. I'm thinking at this podcast right

22:36

now, I was gonna say, you sucked at this, but

22:38

your confidence in spite of that, it's

22:41

very admirable. Well we didn't say

22:43

this, but you had to sit there and watch me butcher the intro

22:46

like three times because I kept stuttering.

22:48

I was gonna ask while watching that, now that

22:50

the cat is out of the bag and the audience knows

22:52

that you fucked up royally in

22:54

front of your esteemed gas

22:57

um, is that what it's like recording YouTube

23:00

videos for you, where when you have given yourself

23:02

a script, you end up having

23:04

to say things like ten fifteen times. Sometimes

23:06

not all the time, but sometimes it's just like, my

23:09

worst nightmare is someone finding an

23:11

unedited YouTube video

23:14

of me where I repeat the same thing like

23:16

fifteen times. It's

23:19

so embarrassing to think about people.

23:22

It's embarrassing. But here's

23:24

what you gotta do. Have an orgasm.

23:27

Oh right, right, when you start filming

23:30

bus a nut, don't actually fake

23:32

it, but that'll that'll drop

23:35

the embarrassment. Then you won't feel that anymore. You

23:37

have that fake post nut clarity where

23:39

suddenly all of your inhibitions

23:42

are gone. No, I

23:44

I feel the same way. I but I

23:46

like, I have an editor now, And when I first

23:48

found him, I would send him footage

23:50

and be like, I'm so sorry for five minutes and

23:53

seven minutes and ten minutes in like you're gonna see

23:55

these me now. I just

23:57

whenever it happens, I just apologized

23:59

to him, like on camera, because I know he's gonna

24:01

watch the footage. I'm like, sorry about that. I'm an idiot.

24:03

Let me try and take it again. And it doesn't

24:05

like it's like anything. Once you just do it

24:07

for a few times, then you're like you

24:09

realize that he's he's not going to judge that hard.

24:12

It's like the most human thing ever, Like fucking up

24:14

and then being like god damn it and trying it again. Yeah,

24:17

that is extremely human. Like it's just so

24:20

fragile and in the like

24:22

us as people that want to like seem cold.

24:26

You took the words out of my mouth, brother, all

24:29

right, Drew, shut up for a second, because we're gonna

24:31

take a quick break, but when we come back, me and Drew

24:33

are going to tweak this piece of advice

24:35

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24:44

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24:46

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24:53

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24:55

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24:57

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25:00

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25:02

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25:04

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25:07

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25:57

this one. I thought about it, and this one is a little

26:00

because the advice itself isn't the worst,

26:02

but we wanted I wanted to change it a little bit.

26:05

Are you ready? I'm ready. Fake

26:07

it till you make it, don't

26:10

fake it till you break it.

26:13

I wrote it like that because it rhymes. Did

26:15

you pick up on that I'm familiar with rhyming?

26:17

Okay, okay, cool? So what did you What

26:19

do you think? I think that I

26:22

want you to explain it to me.

26:25

Okay, I'll put it this way. Faking

26:27

confidence and competence can

26:29

be great right in the workplace or

26:31

in a date, for example. But I

26:34

feel like it's always good a good idea to put

26:36

the a little work in simultaneously, Like

26:38

familiarize yourself with whatever you're

26:40

faking Like if you if you wrote proficient

26:42

in Spanish on the resume, why not

26:44

like download Dueling go and teach yourself

26:46

a little bit, like enough to get by.

26:49

Yeah, I think there's a middle ground there. You don't

26:51

want to just hardcore a lie

26:53

about everything if you Yeah,

26:56

if you're quote unquote proficient

26:58

in a language, you would should least to learn a little

27:00

bit. But yeah,

27:02

and also taking it is if it is in

27:05

the workplace, taking it is sort of a challenge

27:07

upon yourself, Like, Okay, I

27:09

got into the job because I said I could

27:11

do this. Now I need to

27:13

prove to them and myself that I'm capable of

27:15

doing that. But you should go into it with

27:18

the confidence that you can achieve

27:20

the thing you lied about, because otherwise, if

27:23

you lied completely about your skills to get

27:25

a job and it's completely

27:28

unrealistic to ever have those skills, you're funed.

27:30

It's it's gonna be every day is gonna be a nightmare. You're

27:32

gonna be freaking out your in way over your head, and

27:34

it's not worth it. Yes,

27:37

exactly, all

27:40

right, dude. This is the part of the show where we ask our

27:43

guests you what

27:45

is the worst piece of advice that you've ever been

27:47

given. So one

27:49

was a lot of like

27:52

my teachers insisted I go to college, and

27:54

you know, ever the just

27:56

society tells you have to go to college.

27:58

For me, I had no idea of what I wanted to do

28:01

in college, So it was just kind of

28:03

a wasted year where

28:06

I didn't make any money and in fact had

28:08

to spend a bunch of money and spend the next several

28:11

years paying off that money. Um, I

28:13

changed my major like three times. That's

28:15

not to say that college isn't very valuable depending

28:18

on what you're trying to do, but me just taking

28:20

that advice at face value in doing this

28:22

thing because other people said it was the right

28:24

thing to do kind of just backfired

28:26

for me. I didn't really get anything out of it. But do

28:28

you also think that I feel like

28:30

like sometimes that's that's a good thing when

28:33

you're younger and your parents are like, just you gotta

28:35

do this, and you're like, but why,

28:37

and like, like, I'm not to say, you know, I think college

28:39

was I'm not saying that was a good or bad

28:41

decision or whatever, but certain things like when I

28:44

was eighteen and I was I was

28:46

gonna not go to college because I had a girlfriend

28:48

in high school. My mom was like, you're

28:50

you just do it. You're gonna

28:52

Yeah, in five years, you're gonna regret

28:55

doing that. I'm just telling you. I know it seems like that's

28:58

not the case right now, but trust me, it's going to be the

29:00

case. And so you kind of just have to trust what society

29:02

like tells you sometimes about things because you know it's

29:04

been done over and over and over again. Again.

29:07

This is not college specific, but I'm just saying, like there

29:09

are other things. Yeah. I also

29:11

think that the to grade my

29:14

college experiences a total failure and waste of

29:16

time just because I didn't finish is

29:18

you know, that's not looking at the whole picture. I think I

29:20

had some I had a good time. I

29:22

learned a lot about myself. It's not just

29:24

like, well, I didn't get my degree, so I wasted all that

29:27

money. I think it was still a valuable experience for

29:29

me, and who knows. I think

29:32

I'm a big believer and everything happens for a

29:34

reason. I think it's easy to look back on the things

29:36

that you did or the things that happened

29:39

to get you to the point you're at, and I love where I'm at

29:41

in my life. So all of those mistakes

29:43

I made at some point, I'm happy to have

29:45

those because they led me to where I am now. No

29:48

regrets, that's right,

29:50

That's what I was gonna say instead of everything else

29:52

that I was just gonna say, no regrets, but also

29:54

no regrets, no regrets the

29:57

other bad advice, And I guess

29:59

that's no and bad advice. This one is

30:02

similar. When I was like nineteen,

30:05

I uh, I've been

30:07

working for a little bit. I guess I was twenty at this point

30:09

because I had that whole year of college, came back work

30:11

for a little bit. I was ready to buy my own car, and

30:14

I was told that the smart thing to do, the

30:16

financially responsible thing to do, is to buy

30:18

an old car for cheap and

30:21

just maintain it and do everything you can, and you'll

30:23

save money because you don't need to buy like a newer car.

30:25

And for some people that's true, but you've got to make

30:27

sure that the old car you're buying has been

30:29

taken care of by the people you're buying it

30:31

from. I bought a two

30:34

thousand one Nissan Ultima for

30:36

like two thousand dollars, and

30:39

then I took it to a mechanic. They were like,

30:41

oh, you gotta get all this ship done. I was like, crap.

30:43

So I put like four hundred more dollars

30:46

into it. So I'm well over three thousand

30:48

dollars into this car at that point, thinking okay, you know what,

30:50

I put all this work into it that it'll

30:53

be a good car. I got like

30:55

two months out of that thing. It was so fucked

30:57

I I realized it. It had like ten different

31:00

owners. I'm pretty sure there was serious water

31:02

damage in there at some point, which is why

31:05

I would drive it. I'd be like stopped

31:07

at a red light, light would turn green, I'd go to accelerate,

31:09

and the whole car with like jolt before accelerating.

31:12

Every time I thought I was about to like you

31:15

know, explode or something. It was terrifying.

31:18

And so after basically

31:20

I paid to

31:23

rent the world's shittiest car for four

31:25

months and then I just so what was the advice?

31:28

The advice was just too instead

31:31

of buying, like investing in a newer

31:33

car, it was like you will get more, yeah,

31:36

just like you can get good value out of an old

31:38

car, rather than just

31:40

wanting to buy something new because it's newer. And

31:43

I wasted all that money and then ended up trading

31:45

that into the for the car I currently

31:47

have, which is a two thousand twelve Civic,

31:50

And I got five dollars for my Ultimu

31:53

five five hundred dollars.

31:55

That's how bad it was. And this is back when

31:57

I was making like nine dollars an hour, So

31:59

that is like everything I had

32:01

worked for just down the drain. And I could

32:03

have just I could have just put all that money into

32:06

like the down payment of you know, the newer

32:08

car, which I has treated me very well for

32:10

the past five or six years or whatever. It's

32:12

pretty incredible that you can drive a car to

32:14

the point of being worthless. And

32:17

that's the thing about that advice is that plenty

32:19

of people have have old cars with like

32:21

two fifty thousand miles and it

32:23

worked great, But that's because they're taking

32:25

care of them. For me, it was like I bought it from

32:27

this like shady ass dealer. It

32:30

was like when we're talking Craigslist

32:33

dealer, well it was Craig's

32:35

List, but it was it was a dealer

32:38

on Craig's List, and we met on

32:40

a Sunday like outside

32:43

of the dealership. So maybe I don't

32:45

know. It's the whole thing about It's just like so many

32:47

red flags that I chose to ignore because

32:49

I didn't know any better. He's

32:51

like, yeah, I just forgot the keys. You can't get into the

32:53

actual dealership. But this is mine, now

32:55

that I think about it. He probably wasn't even associated.

32:58

It's all Porsches and Asid Martin's

33:01

and he's like, this is what you what I'm usually

33:03

flipping. But this is okay,

33:10

speaking of bad advice, given, here's the lightning

33:12

round. I'm going to name two people of note,

33:15

and you have to tell me who you'd rather take advice from.

33:17

In this scenario, you have to take advice from one of

33:19

them and explain to me why you're choosing one over

33:21

the other. Okay, your wife or the Dali

33:23

Lama. Uh So, it's just

33:25

the person I'm getting the advice from. I don't know what the

33:27

advice is. You have to know, Yeah, yeah,

33:30

that's a good point. Advice about anything, Okay,

33:32

well, advice about anything. My

33:37

wife because

33:41

she's an angel and I love you baby listening.

33:46

Uh No, I'd probably take advice from the dollar La.

33:48

I meant straight

33:50

up. I mean, I'm not gonna she'll

33:52

understand. She gets

33:55

she gets it. Greta Thunberg or the

33:57

cash Me Outside girl, Greta

33:59

Thunberg, right,

34:01

because she's smart. Yeah,

34:04

cash Me Outside girl. Well

34:07

she has good music. She's good music. That

34:10

well. I like her music. Does

34:12

she have songs besides cash

34:15

Me Outside? Yeah? You you never. She's

34:17

like a big artist. Now what yes,

34:19

let that happen she's wait

34:22

hold on, Daniel Brigoli, right,

34:24

what's her artist name? Oh? Is it

34:26

like bad Baby, bad Baby? Yeah?

34:28

Bad Baby? Yeah? Geeked

34:31

up? You know that song? That's her? Anyways,

34:34

I would pick her. Okay, what

34:36

do you think her advice would be?

34:40

Well, I mean it depends what we're asking her.

34:43

What do you think, like, what would we ask her? She

34:45

asked you, Hey, Cody, you come across a dead

34:47

body in the middle of the road. Wait,

34:50

that's not advice She's she's

34:52

asking is that's a riddle? It feels like, yeah,

34:56

never mind, this I might is hurting my

34:58

brain all right.

35:00

Next, Simon Cowell

35:02

post scooter accident, So he's

35:05

giving you advice in a body cast or one

35:07

of the Queer Eye guys, but not Tan unfortunately,

35:10

Um, I guess one of the queer weird

35:13

eye guys, and

35:15

I would just hope it's fashion advice. You

35:17

know. If it's advice

35:19

on how to like swindle your way into the music

35:22

industry, then I made the wrong decision.

35:25

Pete Davidson while he was married to Ariana Grande

35:27

or Pete Davidson post marriage, definitely

35:30

post marriage. Both of them have described

35:32

that period is like, that was weird that

35:35

we did that, and then now he seems to have

35:37

really gotten his ship together. I'm actually

35:39

big fan of Pete Davidson. I think he's I think he's funnier

35:41

than people, and a lot of people don't like him because

35:44

Ariana stands kind of band

35:46

you know, bandwagon. Some hate, but I think I like

35:49

so I would take super funny now. Yeah, I would

35:51

take his advice now too. He's also like he just did a movie.

35:54

He's you know, he's kind of like blowing and

35:56

blowing up in Hollywood now, well he was before,

35:58

but now he's like, guys, he's got like a feature film out, you know.

36:01

Yeah, and it's more like his own merit

36:03

rather than by association. Yes, and

36:05

I take advice from people based

36:07

on their celebrity status usually, so

36:10

he's bigger now than he was back then. So that's why

36:12

I trust his opinion more, because he's more of a celebrity.

36:15

That's why I chose the Dolly Law. Yes, of course,

36:19

Harry Styles or Millie Bobby Brown, Harry

36:23

Styles, Sorry, Millie, you're

36:25

a kid? DJ Kaled

36:28

or Tim Cook? Yeah?

36:30

DJ Khaled for sure. Yeah. I don't

36:32

know why I even hesitated Donald

36:36

Glover or Childish Camby Now that's

36:39

a I guess. I

36:41

guess Childish camp Now he's got more of an edge.

36:44

Yeah, I don't know that. You know

36:46

it's the same guy, right, I know it's the same guy.

36:48

But that's right. That's

36:51

that's why I'm like, well, I'm trying to figure

36:53

out what the difference would be if he's

36:55

in character. I

36:58

know that that's the same It's the same dude.

37:00

I know it's the same guy. That's why I thought

37:02

it was like a trick question. Man, I'm so embarrassed

37:05

right now. This is

37:07

worse than your intro to Bax. Fuck

37:09

you man. All

37:14

right, before we call this one, we like to ask our

37:16

guests one final question. We've

37:19

already talked about the worst advice you've received,

37:21

But what is the worst advice you've ever given someone?

37:24

Yeah, I've had a couple of days to think about this, and

37:26

I have no idea. And I realized I don't

37:28

give anyone advice. No

37:30

one asked me for advice. I don't

37:32

have anything valuable to tell them,

37:35

and that could potentially be the worst advice or the

37:37

best advice that you could give is nothing

37:39

at all. Yeah, I mean, in this

37:41

case, it's I guess it's the worst assuming

37:44

people were really hoping for some good

37:46

advice and I have nothing to offer them.

37:49

It's kind of the worst case scenario that,

37:52

Yeah, that I guess that in itself is really

37:54

bad advice. So that kind of totally works.

37:57

There's some kid listening right now, like what would

37:59

Drew do? Please tell me I'm

38:01

at a crossroads in my life. What should I do? Drew?

38:04

And you're like, I don't just

38:07

a shrug with like a

38:09

balloon sound effect or something, and like, yeah,

38:12

just don't a cartoon

38:14

little I don't know, man, Yeah,

38:16

that's all I got for you. That's

38:19

perfect. That's like really poetic in

38:22

a in a sense. Sure, now

38:24

that you're married, do you find that mutual friends come to

38:26

you for advice as like a package deal, like

38:29

you and your wife, or did they come to her more. I

38:32

think in that scenario they

38:34

would be asking a question

38:36

to both of us, but they're putting more stock

38:38

into Amanda's answer, So I think,

38:41

yeah, I'm just kind of there because they know you're not

38:43

gonna say anything. Yeah, I'm just gonna

38:46

arms crossed silence.

38:48

I might even like give them a mean glare.

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Yeah, yeah you're there, just to go yeah

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what she said? Yeah she

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said what I don't she? Yeah?

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I agree with my wife

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and I love my wife as well. Let

39:03

the record show true,

39:06

I got fired. What should I do? I don't

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love my wife. Man, man,

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she meets the world to do. You

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know what I would do? I would get a wife if I were you,

39:17

but not mine, because not mine, because she's perfect.

39:24

Well, there you have it, folks, another open and

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shut case. That's what I do best. Faking

39:29

it till you make it can be largely

39:31

positive slash beneficial, especially

39:33

if you're trying to buy yourself some time until your skill

39:35

set catches up to your mindset. Just

39:37

make sure you're not cause playing a profession you

39:39

have no intention of learning or your ass is gonna

39:42

get caught. I want to thank

39:44

Drew for coming on today. Thank

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you so much. Man, it's great to see you, great to talk to

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you. Is there anything you want to plug? No,

39:51

I just want to reveal that I was faking

39:53

this entire podcast. I have

39:55

been a cardboard cutout this entire

39:57

time. The real Drew is a sound

40:00

asleep in his band. Holy

40:02

heck, we got played, folks.

40:04

And again that might be even more poetic of

40:06

an ending then your non advice

40:09

segment. So thank you for coming on,

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cardboard cutout of Drew. I appreciate

40:13

you, and tell Drew I say, Hi, I

40:16

can't I can't speak.

40:19

I can on this podcast, but I can't in

40:21

real life. It's complicated. Hey. Check out

40:23

Drew's YouTube channel True

40:26

Good and on YouTube. Everyone. Thanks for joining

40:28

me. Thanks you

40:30

have a troubled with life. Well

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let me give you some of fun. The

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Pleasure Is Ours is a production of I Heart Radio

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and Trojan Brand, hosted by me Cody

40:42

Co. The podcast is executive produced

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by Ethan Fixel, produced and written

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by Jonathan Grimm, written by David Doot

40:49

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40:51

Stillo. Our theme song was composed

40:53

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40:55

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