In this episode, Kat chats with Puerto Rican author and podcaster Lisa Colon Delay about her new book The Wild Land Within: Cultivating Wholeness through Spiritual Practice

Kat and Lisa dialogue about the contemplative life, the difference between Eastern and Western traditions (including atonement theories), spiritual formation during these times, and how marginalized people and groups used contemplation and spiritual formation for sustenance in the long road of racial justice. They also talk about wounds and fears and how contemplation and silence before God might help us heal.

Purchase Lisa's book and follow her on social media @LisaDelay and www.lisadelay.com

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