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Well, hello everyone and thanks for tuning
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into the Proverbs 31 Ministries podcast where we
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share biblical truth for any girl in any
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season. I'm your host, Kaylee Olson, and I'm
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here with my friend and my co-host, Shay
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Hill. Hey, Kaylee. Hey, Shay. Well, today is
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one of our favorite days where we get
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to hear you and Dr. Joel Minamale dive
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into a topic from both a practical and
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a theological perspective. And just a refresher for
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our listeners who are tuning in maybe for
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the first time or maybe for a while,
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we've done several episodes with Joel and Shay
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here on things like, how do I know
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if I'm making the right decision and
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why am I afraid of failure and
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how do I know if I'm reading
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my Bible right? And all of these
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episodes bring the theological side of Joel.
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And I think in an episode previously, you were
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like, Joel's the wow and I bring the how.
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I bring them down and
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I ask like, okay, how does this apply to
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the everyday listener? And I love these conversations that
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you guys have because we're able to walk away
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with a deeper knowledge of what
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the Bible says about a topic, but learn how
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to apply it to our lives directly. And so
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today, what are we talking
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about? Yeah. So one of my favorite
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parts of these conversations with Joel is
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he's so humble in his approach to
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theology. He knows so much. And
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yet as an average everyday Bible reader,
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I feel like I am just a
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part of the Proverbs 31 Ministries audience
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in the way that I can just
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be like, I love everything you're
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saying and I'm not quite sure what it means
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or what to do with it. And so in
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today's conversation, it was really a question that I
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had for him of talking
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about this element of miracles. We
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read in scripture in the Old Testament, there's
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some crazy miracles that happened, but also like
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in the New Testament when Jesus was walking
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with the disciples and they would, miracles
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happen all the time, like healings and
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just some wild, awesome things. And so I was kind
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of asking Joel, like, what does that look like
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in today's world? Like,
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does Jesus still perform
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miracles? Do these things still happen? What do
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we hang on to and hold on to
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when we're holding out for a personal miracle
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that we're waiting on? Like, I really think
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about prayer when it comes to this conversation.
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And so we talk about all of these
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things today. It's definitely a note
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taking episode, I would say. So if you
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are able to press pause and
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go grab your notebook and come back with a pin, I
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think that that would really serve you well. He
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shares some incredible theological terms that I think
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will really help you process this conversation even
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with family and friends after you listen. And
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I'm excited about it. I love it. What's
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so incredible to me is how dynamic
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the Bible is. And then you guys can
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have a theological conversation on the topic of
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failure and also talk
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about miracles. And it's just wild. And I
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don't think we talk a lot about miracles
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these days, but I know it's something we
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all deep down are struggling with in an
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area because we're all hoping for a miracle.
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And I can't wait to hear what you
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guys discussed today because I think it's going
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to bring some people a lot of hope.
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Before we dive into our episode, I have two
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resources that I want to highlight for you guys.
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First, we've put together a free guide for you
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called the 7-Day Reset, cultivating a habit of gratitude
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through prayer that you can download in our show
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notes for free. Second, you
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can dig deeper into the mystery of
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miracles with our new study guide called
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Daniel, finding confidence that God's power is
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at work. And if
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you've been impacted by conversations and teachings from
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the Proverbs 31 Ministries podcast, would you be
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so kind to leave us a review on
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Apple podcast? We'd love to know how these
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episodes are helping you. And so many times
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we often turn to your reviews and really
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see them as testimonials that encourage us to
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keep going. Yes, absolutely. We love knowing that
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these are helpful for you. All right, guys,
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let's turn it over to Shay and Joel.
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Joel, we are back for another
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podcast episode today in our Ask
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a Theologian series. And
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okay, you spend a lot of
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time reading. I'm
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laughing because... Is that a statement? Is that
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a question? Is that like observation? It's a
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statement that I was laughing because I was
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actually picturing your office as I was saying
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that. And I
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mean, the bookshelf that was needed to
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hold all of the books that you read, but through
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all of your academic journey and also
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just your own personal reading, like there's
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a lot of things that you've read.
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And then obviously scripture itself. Do you
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ever just read something that just
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kind of blows your mind in scripture where you're like,
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I can't believe that happened or I can't believe God
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did that. I mean, there's so many different examples. Like
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in the Old Testament, we could really camp out there
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for a hot second of all the wild things that
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happened there. But then also even
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when Jesus walked the earth, like so many
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healings, so many miracles, so many
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just like supernatural encounters,
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which are incredible and obviously a huge
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demonstration of God's power. But
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I'm curious whenever you're reading those, does
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it ever trip you up with something
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that you're going through today or as
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you're processing something that you're really waiting
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on God for in your own life?
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Or do you ever just say like in your brain,
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even I really wish I could have like been there
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for that or I could see something like that or
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witness something like that. Yeah, there's a funny
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one I was recently reading about Balaam's donkey.
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That's a funny one, y'all. Balaam's
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donkey. For those of us who may
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are a little less familiar with this, can you give us
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a short summary? Yeah,
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Balaam's gone on this road and there's been this
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warning that God's given him. And
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the guy is like, he's all caught up on
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like, what do I do? What do I not
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do? And he's going about to give this prophecy
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and Balaam's donkey is on this road and Balaam's
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donkey sees an angel of the Lord is on
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the road. And basically the donkey can see it,
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but Balaam can't. And so Balaam's donkey is like,
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if we keep going, the angel of the
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Lord, he's going to smite all of us. Like
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the sword is coming on all of our heads,
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right? And the donkey refuses to go. So here's
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Balaam gets met with the donkey. And
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he's like.
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