Welcome, Heidi and Rex to the mic.  We are old neighbors from back in the day.  Me one kid and them no kids.  We were pretty happy then and didn't actually realize the difference that came later.  We all raised and are still raising some kiddos into 2018.  Listen to their honest take and opinions on getting children safely out of the house.  They may be able to shed a little bit of light onto some darkness you may be having.  I appreciate them taking the time to hang and do a podcast with me and for us.