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mr. Midnight karma Mm-hmm

3:00

Socials into Twitter Facebook Hey,

3:03

you know y'all really like that Chris Ryan clip

3:05

from the live show That's everybody

3:07

who's been following Tyler Lonzo Lonzo. He

3:10

follows us on rigor bird So I

3:12

think I better than Lance laws Lazulonzo

3:14

you not follow us too But

3:17

man, my beef is really with you right now.

3:19

Why? Oh wait, she check this out. Okay You

3:22

are on two great podcasts here at

3:24

the ringer. Mm-hmm, right higher learning in

3:26

the ring averse Yeah every week you

3:29

be posting clips of higher learning. Oh,

3:31

wow We'd be giving you clips to post about ring

3:33

averse. She'll be posting this man or the are you

3:35

ashamed of us? I'll tell you why I don't post

3:37

it. Oh, I was well, I do post it

3:40

I post everything I put in my stories, but

3:42

I don't I don't post it. Uh-huh to

3:45

In protest. Okay for how you breathing

3:47

down my neck No

3:51

one demands that I post anything from higher learning

3:54

Jomi, I gotta get you out

3:56

of your Karen phase of life. Just give the

3:58

clips Give the

4:00

just give the clip. That's what I don't I

4:02

believe but the moment the kids come out a

4:04

van Por favor put this up. I don't

4:07

want to do it No

4:10

one I have to this is how toxic I

4:12

am I have to beg for the higher

4:14

learning clips Is

4:21

just how I am crazy,

4:23

it's just how I am so we just

4:25

got a reverse I was like when I

4:27

was out there dating is the more that

4:29

she lied to me the less I liked

4:31

her I

4:40

would be like I'll be like what's

4:42

wrong with you if you find me desirable

4:46

Wow I guess

4:48

I'll post more but like even see what you just

4:50

did right now now. I want to do it Now

4:56

I don't want to do it out of people know so people why are you trying to

4:59

hold another black man down at this company? We mean

5:01

you posting these clips like Joe me is a hard

5:03

worker on the social team You

5:05

don't want to help support him through this journey. Thank

5:07

you Charles So we're gonna make an argument

5:09

that I haven't supported Joe me So

5:12

we're gonna make an argument that I haven't supported Joe me

5:25

Argument can't be I'll

5:35

post it. I'll post everything. I just wanted to

5:37

actually get this little clip for the show. So

5:39

what pussy All right We're

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the shows Okay, I've

5:54

been watching a lot of the conversation out there.

5:56

You guys are loving what we do over on

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the tubes We have a great day I

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just keep saying that in order to get

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this up, it took the

6:05

hard work of a lot of people, and we

6:07

are so appreciative of those people's work. That's a

6:09

5-10. Whoo! I

6:11

thought we were snapping. Oh, yeah. Oh, that

6:14

does sound nice. That's better.

6:16

That's better. Also, the Ringerverse will be live at

6:18

the El Rey Theatre. Nothing for Kerm. This

6:21

summer in L.A. we'll be there on July 17th. Check

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out the ringer.com backslash events for more info. Now, what

6:27

day of the week is that? It's

6:29

a Wednesday. That's a Wednesday. Also,

6:31

guess what day it is? What

6:34

day is it? Jomie's birthday. Jomie's fucking birthday.

6:36

Here's the thing. That's right, baby. All the ladies

6:38

in L.A. All right, well, hold on. Eligible bachelorettes.

6:40

All right, we're going to be throwing a little

6:42

soiree for Jomie. It's his birthday. Oh, my daddy!

6:45

You know what I'm saying? Dress to the nines.

6:47

You know, maybe bring a little food. Show us

6:49

how you do in the kitchen and like... Hey,

6:51

this is what we're going to do. This is

6:53

the party. We're going

6:56

to have... And this is completely...

6:59

This is okay. All right, this is all

7:01

above standards. All right, of course. We're going to

7:03

have a Jomie, a dinner on White Girl Daisy

7:05

D. Woo! Woo! All

7:08

right! So, all the ladies, the White Girls

7:10

in L.A. Get your

7:12

finest cut off shorts. A

7:15

Hawk tour birthday. A Hawk tour

7:17

birthday. See what you wore to

7:19

the Zach Ryan concert? That's

7:21

what the ladies are dressing up for, Jomie. And this

7:24

is it. And also, for our sisters, we still got

7:26

you. He's going to have his own section

7:28

at the party. So, all the sisters are like...

7:30

So, that's the thing about Minn Edition. That's

7:32

the thing about Minn Edition. Minn Edition could

7:34

be called Milk Edition. And it would...

7:38

The title would work because he

7:40

loves milk and he is milk. Ooh!

7:43

It really could be Milk Edition. But

7:45

remember, remind us. Every Tuesday

7:47

and Thursday, House of R, we'll deep dive into

7:50

House of Dragon and the Acolyte. Shout

7:52

out to Mal and Jojo and Mal. I

7:54

say something here. Jo's been around for the whole summer.

7:56

I haven't seen enough Jo. I'm

7:58

just going to pull up to Jo's crib. Oh, go for it.

8:01

Hell yeah. You pull up to Joe's crib,

8:04

like 9.30 in the morning? I fear I'm

8:06

sleeping. Night. Rumors on the street, Joe's been

8:08

popping bottles in the clubs, just like going

8:10

crazy. No, she has. Like, it's. 3 o'clock

8:13

at like 3 AM, just going nuts. Oh,

8:15

man. You know. Joe is so

8:17

LA. Shut up. She don't like LA. She's

8:19

so LA. Joe is so

8:21

LA. I know all my friends from the studios. I talk

8:24

to my friends from the studios. Joe, you one of us.

8:26

You Hollywood. She's cri- walking. Mm-hmm. Well, I'll

8:28

be so funny. You

8:30

know what we should do? We should

8:32

take Joe to Slauson and Cred Joe

8:40

is like Joe is one of those people who can

8:42

get along with anyone. She has such a delightful spirit.

8:45

She'll like, we'll come pick

8:47

her up. She's like neighborhood.

8:49

Cut. She's like, neighborhood. Man,

8:52

this is my new friend. This

8:54

is my new friend. Big 600. Gotta

8:57

relax. I

9:00

got a show to do. Come on. Great.

9:05

Get into it. We will. Every

9:07

Monday and Thursday, the Midnight Boys will be giving you

9:09

their reactions to Hot D. And Thursday

9:12

for the Boys and the Acolyte. God damn

9:14

it, does the Acolyte have a lot to live up to this

9:16

week. It's

9:18

tough. This is- I'm hopeful. Before we

9:20

get into the Acolyte, this is one

9:22

of the most consequential

9:25

episodes of a Disney

9:27

Plus series ever. Because

9:29

this was a universally loved episode

9:32

of the Acolyte. But what

9:34

people don't know is whether or not

9:36

this episode represents a change

9:39

in the show to this

9:42

sweeping, rousing ending that we're

9:44

looking for. Or whether

9:46

or not it was a one-off. If

9:48

it's an outlier, it's the

9:51

vitriol and the hate is going to

9:53

be really bad. It's a big episode for the Acolytes.

9:56

I'm so interested. I'm rooting. I can't wait. I'm so

9:58

interested. Can't wait. And every Sunday, talk to you. The

10:00

Thrones will be up right

10:02

after the latest episode of Hot

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D Ends. And you

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guys get to talk to your friends

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when Hot D Ends. Talk

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to your friends when Hot D Ends.

10:13

You get to talk to your friends

10:15

when Hot D Ends. You get to

10:17

talk to your friends. Done. Okay.

10:21

Spoiler warning. No book spoilers. We

10:23

might. I mean. How about

10:25

up to this point in the books? Man, my book

10:27

is like. Fuck the spoilers.

10:29

Let's get to this shit. I'm tired of hearing people

10:32

bitch. Like we're done. I mean the

10:34

book spoilers are some interesting stuff in

10:36

the show. Nigga I'm about to spoil the whole

10:38

entire fucking goddamn show. We're spoiling the fucking shit.

10:40

I'm gonna read the whole Wikipedia right now. Right

10:42

now. I'm gonna go on. I'll spoil whatever I

10:44

want. I'll do whatever I want. I listen to y'all.

10:47

We talk about the show. You guys come here to talk

10:49

about you. You're spoiling the kicking nuts in our nuts. We

10:52

gonna spoil it all. The new nickname of this. Change

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the graphic at the bottom. We're not

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the midnight boys anymore. We them spoiling

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niggas. All right. Steve with a

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12:22

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12:25

is Chuck Wagon. The only way to do that is Midnight Manifest. Alright,

12:29

this is your Midnight Manifest for House of

12:31

the Dragon, episode 3, The Burning Mill directed

12:33

by Guido Vasant, a tale written by David

12:35

Hancock. The Brackens and the Blackwoods beef over

12:38

Team Black and Team Green in the Riverlands.

12:40

Meanwhile, Rhaenyra and the rest of her crew

12:42

bury the Eric twins as

12:44

Rhaenyra stressed to tell her that Queen Alyson

12:46

could still be reason with. Rhaenyra sends Rhaenyra,

12:48

her children, and some dragon heads away for

12:50

their protection and makes Missaria one of her

12:52

advisors thanks to her warning the

12:54

crown of the Eric attack. Kristin, besides the best thing he

12:56

can do as Hand of the King, is ride off into

12:58

war to cock her Heron Hall. Unfortunately,

13:01

he's outmaneuvered by Daemon for the time

13:03

being who gets there first. Laris becomes

13:05

Aegon's master of whispers after he counsels

13:07

Aegon to avoid going to war with

13:09

his dragon. Kristin and Alyson's brother, Gwayne,

13:12

is spotted by Bail and her dragon

13:14

which escalates teams of Black's Council to

13:16

crawl off for an all-out dragon war.

13:18

To avert this, Rhaenyra infiltrates King's Landing

13:21

as a scepter for the church to

13:23

see Alyson. It's here that Rhaenyra and

13:25

Alyson realize that this entire debacle was

13:27

a mistake and Alyson's non-understanding of Song

13:29

of Ice and Fire begin this

13:32

whole little war. I gotta

13:34

tell you, of all the

13:36

times I've been pissed off,

13:40

and nothing pissed me off more than that. I

13:42

can't wait to talk about that scene. What a

13:44

great scene between Alyson and Renee. You know what

13:46

pissed me off? Pissed me off. What pissed you

13:48

off? Honestly,

13:50

they had the full frontal

13:52

pale dong in this episode. It was

13:54

honestly- Why'd that piss you off? I

13:57

didn't think we'd start here. Actually, no.

14:00

I want to know if the

14:02

midnight boys ever go to

14:04

a brothel then you're a gun

14:07

you're You couldn't help yourself. What do

14:09

you mean? Like if I'm gonna run

14:11

in there while you guys are in there with

14:13

somebody just tell it Just be like no decorum

14:17

What's going on here? Where is she where is she where she

14:19

could have to agree with my other midnight boys? I see the

14:21

vision you would have pulled an egg on in the brothel. Yeah,

14:23

I don't know how I would act in the brothel I'm

14:26

sure you that I am in a brothel and I

14:28

don't believe you Charles you did this to yourself We

14:31

just line at 8 a.m. No, no, how would

14:33

you just lie brothel tell us I'm

14:36

the most gentlemanly quiet me

14:44

Joey's gonna have like just a harem of white women

14:47

you just say nothing. No, that's not what that's not

14:49

what I'm Jomi I'm not gonna

14:51

get in the middle of Jomi's fuck action in the

14:53

brothel I'm

14:56

not gonna walk in there. All right in the

14:58

middle of Jomi's situation While

15:00

he's in the brothel because when Jomi turns

15:02

around and stands up you're gonna get all

15:04

the West Africa And

15:07

that's not what you know That's

15:09

not what you want. That's that had instead

15:11

on the goddamn cuz we call them the

15:13

five the five-inch warrior But we know it's

15:15

probably not the reality the

15:17

15-inch warrior Please

15:22

move on so I don't have to make that a hashtag Oh,

15:27

uh, I think that

15:30

this was positive momentum just in terms

15:32

of Getting

15:34

people out of these fucking dark-ass castles

15:36

I mean Damon went to one again

15:38

but it's finally feels like we're

15:40

getting to the part that I think the show

15:42

has always been teasing which is the war aspect

15:44

of this of These

15:47

two houses are obviously fighting this

15:49

blood feud, but they're not really the ones who

15:51

are about to get their hands dirty It's all

15:53

with Westeros who has to fight over this kind

15:55

of as we see at the end of this

15:57

episode Just a nonsensical war

15:59

So I think in that

16:02

respect, I was really, really entertained by

16:05

this episode. But I'm still

16:07

getting a little bit tripped up by

16:10

the mechanics of

16:12

it, I think, because it's like we've now had

16:14

three episodes where it's just like, oh,

16:17

you killed my son? Well, I'm sending Damon

16:19

into fucking, I'm sending him to King's Landing and he's

16:21

going to go kill your kid. Then it was like,

16:23

well, we're sending the twins to go to your castle

16:25

and they're going to try to kill your queen. And

16:28

then Rene is like, you know what I should do? I should

16:30

just go to King's Landing. And I'm like, what

16:33

is the security like here? Why are

16:35

they traveling back and forth within the course of

16:37

fucking days? And why is Rene-era one of

16:39

the biggest idiots in Westeros? OK. So

16:42

let's go a couple of things

16:44

here. First of all, I think it's various

16:46

two points that you bring up. Tell you what I thought

16:48

about the episode. I thought it was great. I

16:52

tend to like this show when it's smaller. OK.

16:55

OK. When it's a smaller show, when it's

16:58

more about the dynamics in between. Because that's essentially what's going to

17:00

drive the show. As part of that, every

17:02

single thing that you pointed out is what I've been

17:04

hearing from other people. And it's kind of

17:06

like, what are you doing? But

17:09

part of it is if the

17:12

family drama and the tension between the

17:14

characters doesn't work for you, the

17:17

story of Fire and Blood might not just

17:19

work. And that is, there's a lot of

17:21

people who that's kind of the thing, right?

17:23

We watched seven

17:26

seasons of people battle

17:28

for the throne, different factions,

17:31

huge armies, and all of

17:33

that. This is essentially about

17:35

misunderstandings and family trauma and

17:38

how that affects everyone else. And if that part

17:40

is not working, then the show might not work.

17:42

So here's the thing. I actually agree with you.

17:45

The family stuff, the family drama

17:47

to me, is the most fascinating

17:49

part of the story, where

17:52

I think I'm getting a little bit tripped up is

17:54

that because of the way that the show was set

17:56

up, you have some of the

17:58

most interesting character dynamics. basically

18:01

at two separate sides of this war, obviously.

18:03

So it's just like Damon and Aemon are

18:05

going to have to come to blows at

18:07

one point, but until then it's just like,

18:09

okay, okay, I know they hate each other,

18:12

da da da da da da, or it'll

18:14

be like, Alison and Reneera, and they have

18:16

to come up with all of these ways

18:18

to still make that tension feel real. And

18:21

in this episode, it felt a little bit

18:23

like a jump the shark moment where I'm

18:25

like, the queen, the queen

18:28

of this entire, because earlier in

18:30

the episode, everybody

18:32

makes a very, very astute point. They're

18:34

like, Aegon, why the

18:37

fuck would you hop on your dragon to

18:39

go to war? That makes no fucking sense.

18:41

You need to stay parked here. And

18:43

for Reneera, who I think is way smarter

18:46

than Aegon, and it's actually a ruler in

18:48

this episode, you see, okay, like she actually

18:50

has a lot of what you need. Her

18:52

to be like, know what I'm gonna do? I'm

18:54

gonna get dressed up like a Scooby-Doo villain and

18:56

try to sneak into King's Landing to have a

18:59

talk with Alison. Am I the only one that

19:01

loved that? I liked it. No,

19:03

I liked the conversation they had, but

19:06

it was a little difficult to me. I'm like, you're

19:08

the queen going into enemy territory in

19:12

disguise, why are you doing that?

19:14

I feel like they needed to have that moment though,

19:16

because I think what these first three

19:19

episodes are doing was trying to just

19:21

say how stupid the entire thing's gonna

19:23

be, right? Stupid,

19:25

like the escalation of conflict, like the reasoning

19:27

behind this war in the first place. The

19:30

first three episodes, all they do is tell

19:32

us, like, A, nobody's

19:35

gonna remember what this whole thing is about, people are just gonna die,

19:37

and it's gonna be dumb. And two, hey,

19:40

this whole thing started over a simple miscommunication.

19:43

Like if y'all had what it talked, after

19:45

Viserys would've died, wouldn't be having his

19:47

beef. And so, but now it's too late.

19:50

Now hundreds of thousands of people are gonna die because

19:53

y'all couldn't have this conversation how many

19:55

years ago. And I think the logistics

19:57

behind Rhaenyra

19:59

coming. into King's Landing and like going

20:01

up to the Sept and literally just talking

20:04

to Allyson. I think the

20:06

reasoning behind her doing that is just like, well,

20:08

I want to put myself at risk first before

20:10

I put all of these hundreds of thousands of

20:12

innocent bystanders at risk first. Like

20:15

if there's any way that I could possibly prevent this

20:17

in a last ditch effort to do so, then

20:20

I'm going to do it. Motherfucker, like you

20:24

essentially have an entire, you're splitting the kingdom in

20:26

half and the minute that Aegon was on that

20:28

throne and she was just like, you surfed my

20:31

throne, they were on, it was going to be

20:33

war. So that's the other thing I don't really

20:35

understand about the show where I'm just like, Renira.

20:38

Really? Like you, like that is the thing where

20:41

it's like, maybe she

20:43

just is very naive because everybody

20:45

else, even Daemon's an asshole, Otto's

20:47

an asshole, but both of them

20:49

are very, very clear. They're

20:51

just like, there was always going to be

20:53

a conflict and there was always going to

20:55

be a war because that's all Westeros knows.

20:57

And now it's just, are we both using

20:59

our nukes or are we going

21:01

to try to avoid using the nukes? Right.

21:05

And I think that's fit. Like, I think that

21:07

she's really afraid to use them because rightfully so.

21:09

It's just like, once we hit that button, there's

21:11

no going back from that. So I'm going to

21:13

exhaust every option. The show is essentially about the

21:15

end of a dynasty and how

21:17

the cracks in the craters in that dynasty led

21:19

to the end of the Targaryen rule

21:22

over Westeros. And

21:26

those things always happen from within. And

21:29

there's always decadence and misunderstandings

21:32

and mismanagement that

21:34

lead to something blowing up

21:37

from within itself. I think

21:39

that this episode worked for

21:41

me and the overall family dynamic

21:43

and drama works for me because we're

21:48

essentially litigating who the good rulers are.

21:50

It's obvious when you watch this

21:52

one that Otto is missed. Yes.

21:55

It's obvious that Otto is missed, right? We're

21:58

talking about who the good rulers are. last

22:00

show, you had a lot of incompetent

22:02

rulers, right? But you also had a lot

22:04

of good ones. You had a lot

22:07

of people who were naturals. You had a lot of people

22:09

who were able to inspire.

22:11

You had a lot of people who you could look at

22:13

the show and be like, I would follow that person. In

22:15

this show, you have none. Like, none.

22:18

Like, you have like zero. You have zero. Who

22:20

would you follow from the show? In this show,

22:23

you have none. Like,

22:25

right now, she, Renara

22:27

looks like she's, kind

22:30

of, impotent as a ruler. She looks like she

22:32

rules with a moral compass, but

22:34

she's losing the support of her

22:36

small council because

22:40

she's in a fight, but doesn't seem

22:42

like she wants to fight. There's a

22:44

line from The Wire, and

22:48

Slim Charles says it in The Wire.

22:50

He goes, we're at war. If

22:52

it's a lie, we fight on that lie.

22:55

So you do follow us on socials, but

22:57

you don't post nothing. What do you mean?

23:00

I didn't make that last night. I did a whole. I did

23:02

a whole. You thirsty ass, show me if he sees the shit,

23:04

he's gonna share it, bro. Let me tell you something now. Let

23:06

me tell you something. I actually didn't see that. I don't know

23:08

if you know, I did Way Down in

23:10

the Whole, whole podcast on The Wire with

23:13

Jamel Hill. Go check that out. So I know

23:15

everything from The Wire. It's not a fucking, you

23:17

think you're the only nigga that thought that? No.

23:19

You off your own dick. All right. Wait,

23:22

does this make Renee Slim Charles? What? Is

23:24

Renee Slim Charles of this show? Well,

23:27

she kind of is. She literally, when she's

23:29

talking, she's like, when she's going, she's like,

23:32

hey, you know, just like you didn't

23:34

really mean to kill. Yeah. They

23:37

sound like it was that moment where I was

23:39

just like, oh, Renee's is the smartest, she's the

23:41

auto equivalent. We go back to any time. Like

23:43

we go back to after Vito

23:47

Corleone is killed and

23:49

you have Sonny. And Sonny

23:52

looks at Tom Hagen and goes, you're

23:54

not wartime conciliary. Like we're in a

23:56

war. And the rules are

23:58

different. The rules. are different when you're

24:00

at war. When you're at war, you

24:03

want to fight a just

24:05

war, but sometimes you're just

24:07

fighting. And she

24:10

can't seem to do that while on the

24:12

other side, the war isn't just, but all

24:14

they want is to fight. So

24:17

the question becomes to me, whose

24:19

philosophy wins here? And it's a

24:21

compelling question because no

24:25

one has good leadership.

24:28

Aegon is one of the worst kings and

24:30

rulers I've ever seen. I mean, when he

24:33

lets Laris, it's so funny where it's like

24:35

in the first season, we see how ineffective

24:37

Viserys is, but it's so funny how like

24:40

Viserys was like, I do not need a

24:42

whisper in here. I don't need y'all in my head.

24:45

And Aegon, it takes five seconds. Like, I think you

24:47

should be on my council. When that was clearly just

24:49

a lie to play him to not go to war

24:51

in the first place. He's like, oh yeah, you're my

24:53

master. But you're the thing. You're so smart. Aegon don't

24:56

be vetting any of these. No. No. Because

24:59

Sarcrista Cole walks out and the new

25:01

king's guard is just like chilling there and just

25:03

lacks. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening?

25:06

In the small council meeting in

25:08

that scene, you see

25:10

that Allyson has a little bit

25:12

of her father in her where

25:14

she's attempting to make him

25:17

take a pragmatic, more

25:19

measured response to the

25:21

things that are going on. And

25:24

he can only think like a soldier. He

25:26

can't properly advise the king because he

25:28

doesn't have a 360 degree view of

25:30

Westeros. So with all of

25:33

this happening at the same time, what

25:35

I really wonder, and then you have Damon

25:38

who's off on his

25:40

own side quests at Herrenhal,

25:43

doing his own thing. There's no

25:45

cohesion. There's nothing. There's a bunch.

25:47

The show is a dysfunctional family

25:49

reunion that a bunch of people

25:52

are going to die for. And that's what you

25:54

see in the first scene. I really liked Damon's

25:56

side quest in this. I thought that was actually

25:58

like really, really great. I hate Damon. I do

26:02

Damon's the only motherfucking out here. He came in way

26:04

too hot at Heron Hall He came in way too

26:06

hot in Heron Hall and then he's like It's

26:09

your grace. It's like alright, bro. That's not

26:11

you know I mean like we just had the conversation last week

26:13

with from there, right? Do you see me as your queen? I

26:17

You know then he goes to Heron Hall and he's the

26:19

guy's like your Prince cuz that's what he's supposed to be

26:22

called And he's like your grace Like

26:24

you know I'm a saying like beep beep for real, bro I

26:26

do like how much I got strong as ake, bro What's

26:29

the right I mess with my mama. I got

26:31

a dragon put some respect on my name, but

26:33

that's I've got a bombed out

26:35

house from the last guy with a dragon and

26:37

i'm like alright, whatever bow down fealty yada Yada,

26:39

whatever take this that's not gonna work. Okay, so

26:41

for Renier finds out he's been going

26:44

around telling people to call him your grace. Does that

26:46

go slide? No She

26:48

don't got any other choice I

26:50

feel like she does and she be like hey, man You

26:53

can't really be all right first of all she

26:55

like let's be real Renier Like I

26:57

gotta clear out on this She

27:00

treating all the black people in this castle like how

27:10

She getting mad at her general i've never

27:12

seen a show that treats the black people

27:14

worse No

27:17

other show They just

27:19

they like hey, hey, I need you to look after

27:21

my kids the fuck out of she made it into

27:23

a mammy Not

27:27

wrong not like she did the girl's looking

27:29

at her like, you know, I need you

27:31

to be the mother I never could be

27:33

really rather not watch after your kids. She's

27:36

like look at your mama like Put

27:40

this fucking scarf on Get

27:42

on your little biggie dragon. Take these eggs

27:45

and go fucking be with her sister Hey,

27:47

i'm gonna need you to get your ass up out this couch and

27:49

go with the dragon And

27:52

what happened when they were leaving steve you were telling

27:54

me She she hugged all of her white kids that

27:56

were born by her and none of her black step

27:58

kids and fucking Damon, honestly, Dave

28:00

left those kids. They don't even like that.

28:02

They don't even like that. Damon don't even

28:04

like that. Which is like peace, like, bye

28:06

bye. Didn't even say goodbye. Here's the thing,

28:08

I will just say, like yo, Renira, first

28:12

of all, she's treating all black people like

28:14

hell. Second of all, Damon's the only motherfucker

28:16

here that at least got some wartime heart.

28:18

Like I'm not saying he's smart, but like

28:21

Damon's about that action. And meanwhile, everybody in

28:23

your council is like, hey, yo, I think

28:25

it's time to make a move. And she

28:27

wants to play dress up. You're

28:30

not making any wrong points, but at the same time, Damon has

28:32

got to respect the chain of command. If any of this is

28:34

gonna work, he's gotta respect the chain

28:36

of command. He clearly doesn't do that. All right, so if we're

28:38

gonna be real, part

28:41

of this is on

28:43

Renira, because if Renira

28:45

is a strong, effective

28:47

ruler, everybody's

28:50

not hurt, council's not doubting her.

28:52

Motherfuckers aren't, like you gotta

28:54

like, you're missing the part of that. Saji,

28:58

Saji. Yeah. There's a

29:00

big part of this show that is

29:02

also asking the question, because we've had

29:05

to ask this question in Westeros before,

29:08

all right? The Starks, for

29:11

all of the fact that we love the Starks, there

29:13

would always be a woman in one of the Starks'

29:16

ears going, hey, this is what you should do, and

29:18

they never did it. Nope. And every time,

29:20

they never did it, and they always got fucked up. Yep. All

29:23

right, and so. You are right, but here's

29:25

the reason why. Saji, Saji. There is a

29:27

lot of Saji, Saji action. I'm not gonna

29:29

lie, but it's a lot of it. Renira,

29:33

I'ma be real, Renira be talking to the other

29:35

women on this show, crazy. She was like, Massardia,

29:37

I'm like, yo, homegirl just saved your life. And

29:40

she was just looking at her, just like, you

29:42

should kinda be thankful that I'm even thinking

29:44

about putting you on my council. I'm

29:47

like, yo, coach. I mean, yeah. Because

29:50

I would ask the same question, I'd be like, you just

29:52

said you wanted to leave, now you wanna

29:54

come back and be at court. Is

29:56

it was you while in one mic? I would have been like,

29:58

yeah. Yeah. Because I want

30:01

to ask that same question because

30:03

it's a big difference between wanting

30:06

to leave and go back

30:08

somewhere and then wanting to come be

30:10

a part of it. I saved your life. It's

30:14

like we know that you live off of

30:16

playing other people. Do

30:19

you think I'm just going to let you

30:21

in here? Not exactly the most trustworthy person.

30:23

Like what do you want? She openly admits

30:25

that she leads in double dealings and you're

30:27

like, alright, well, you did

30:29

save my life so I'm going to think about it. But

30:33

she made a good case. By

30:35

the way, you know, you said something earlier

30:37

about the security, about people sneaking in and out. I

30:39

just want to let you know they don't have ring

30:41

cameras. There's no simply safety. No

30:44

face real ID. There's

30:46

a lot of ways to get in and out of this

30:48

place without being detected. By the way, I love for Bodyguard.

30:50

He was so cool. Just like casing up

30:53

the joint. Let's go back. After

30:56

the first... Here's the thing. Both of them

30:58

have had so much

31:00

just security malfunctions. After that happens once, I

31:03

would assume it would get harder and harder

31:05

to sneak into these places. And it's like,

31:07

nah, I just got to dress up and

31:09

we just going in and out. Okay, we

31:11

got her at church. Yeah,

31:13

it's not the red heap. Yeah,

31:16

so... So you all saw

31:18

that scene and you was just like, damn, that's exactly how

31:20

it would go down. I was thrilled. I was like, I'm

31:22

sick. I'm not talking possible shit. This is great. The scene

31:24

was dope. The mechanics of the

31:26

scene are just... It's leaving me with

31:29

a lot of questions. I'm just like, is

31:31

everybody on this show besides fucking Otto and

31:33

Rene's dumbasses? I mean,

31:35

yeah. Yeah. I

31:37

mean, they kind of are. But remember

31:39

now, the only reason why they're dumbasses

31:41

is because no one is operating out

31:44

of intelligence or cunning

31:46

or planning. It's emotion. They're operating

31:48

from emotion. Remember, the best part

31:50

of this conversation is like, hey,

31:52

well, killed your son. Hey,

31:55

well, killed the son. A

31:57

took the eye. You could argue.

32:00

that none of those things

32:02

that happened were 100% intentional. It's

32:06

just like none of those things

32:08

that happened were like, I

32:11

didn't mean to do that. I didn't mean to

32:13

do that. I didn't mean to do that. And

32:15

no one can stem the tide of

32:18

unintended slights and

32:21

those slights keep

32:23

getting more dire, keep

32:26

getting more serious. It went from, I took

32:28

your eye, which is a trauma you'll never

32:30

forget, to I killed your son, to I

32:33

cut the head off a baby. And now we're trying to

32:35

stop it, the snowball from

32:37

rolling downhill, and no one seems like

32:39

they want to stand in front of it. And that's

32:42

the question of the show. The question of the show

32:44

is, will anyone stand in front of this and go

32:46

stop? And that's really

32:48

what they're missing when the king died,

32:50

was somebody who could unite everyone and

32:53

make decisions that

32:55

like made the kingdom work. I mean,

32:57

I think to your

32:59

point, the best thing that this show

33:01

does is, it

33:03

makes this high drama, high fantasy so

33:06

relatable because that, the biggest thing

33:08

that you notice in any family, like if you go

33:10

to like an aunt or an uncle who's not talking

33:12

to another aunt or uncle, and you ask them what

33:15

happened, what's the start of the beef? And they're like,

33:17

oh, well, it started like, years ago,

33:19

you go to the other party and it's something

33:21

completely different. And you just go down story

33:24

after story after story. And you're like, you

33:26

guys are fighting over shit. Like all this

33:28

stuff is so jumbled that I do think

33:30

that House of the Dragon is doing a

33:32

very, very good job of making this large

33:35

scale war seem so, even

33:38

in the first scene when the two

33:40

boys are fighting, I'm like, oh, they're

33:42

fighting over a team black, team

33:44

green, but they're really fighting over a centuries long

33:47

beef that both of their families have had. And

33:49

they just need any excuse. But they don't even

33:51

remember why. No one remembers why.

33:53

And I do think that that was a

33:55

genius thing to start the show with, is

33:57

being like, oh, this isn't just a Targaryen

34:00

problem. is a Westeros problem. Well, I think

34:02

it's to, again, it's to highlight the

34:04

entire point of the show, which is people

34:06

are going to beef. Why are

34:08

they beefing? Who knows? But people are going to die.

34:11

And you're going to look back and go, man, that

34:13

was kind of stupid. Yeah. What did the dude in

34:15

Heron Hall say? Sin begets. Sin begets sin begets sin.

34:18

You know, it's funny. Nobody knows what started it, but it keeps

34:20

happening. It reminds me of something. So

34:22

during the pandemic, I started

34:26

watching YouTubes about the gangs in LA.

34:30

That's one of us. You ever watch these?

34:32

The War and Cali. No. Welcome to Hood

34:34

War Stories. You guys never

34:36

watch that? No. You guys never watch

34:38

War and Cali or Welcome to Hood War Stories. Today

34:40

we're going to tell a story about Rolling 60 Crip.

34:42

You never watch that? I take this as the host

34:44

that you're imitating. That's how he talks. OK. And

34:47

he's a great storyteller. OK, cool. Welcome

34:49

to Hood War Stories. He's a great

34:51

storyteller, right? And

34:55

so they'll be telling these stories about

34:57

these different sets. And normally, it's

35:01

different gangs that are like, they're

35:03

different sets, and they're in the same gang. This

35:06

is how the A-Trays and the 60s started beef,

35:08

or whatever, whatever. And it always,

35:10

you get a generation of beef. And

35:13

I don't want to talk out of school. I respect everybody's

35:15

politics. But you get a generation

35:17

of beef based upon an incident that

35:19

happened between two people. Yeah. Like, these

35:21

two people were at a party. And

35:24

the way Hood War Stories, the guy says it, is

35:27

always funny, because you can tell that

35:29

he's making a little bit of commentary

35:32

about how silly it is.

35:34

He goes, there's two people going to a party,

35:37

allegedly over a female. You know what I

35:39

mean? And

35:42

then, so somebody gets

35:44

beat up, then there's retribution,

35:47

then retribution. And then, essentially, you

35:49

have 25, 30 years of two sets going

35:54

back and forth. To them, it's

35:57

not over that. To them, it's over the

35:59

people that they have. lost. Right?

36:01

It's not because somebody was killed in 1989

36:03

or 1991 or 95

36:07

at a house party. It's because your

36:09

brother was killed or because your cousin

36:11

was killed or because somebody that you

36:13

grew up with was killed. It's not

36:15

about that but that's what it started

36:17

about. So the question about whether or

36:20

not you're actually fighting over something or

36:22

actually fighting over nothing becomes a

36:24

compelling one. And like at the

36:26

beginning of the show when those

36:29

two people were going back and forth, he

36:31

said his sword is for killing the other

36:33

guys. Yeah. So really

36:35

it's actually more impressive that

36:37

there's a piece. So

36:41

when that happens and you see the

36:43

episode starts fantastically and you see the

36:46

actual cost of

36:48

this battle that's essentially over a ruling family's

36:50

claim to the throne, you start to ask

36:52

if any of it is worth it. Which

36:55

side do you mean? Even in the small

36:57

council meeting, it's so funny that like Aegon

36:59

is like, hell yeah, he's like so jacked

37:01

up. Like that war is starting finally and

37:03

they're just like, I don't really know if

37:05

we can count this as a win. We

37:07

lost so many people. We lost and it's

37:10

like, it's so like to your point without

37:12

auto there, without a lot of these people

37:14

there, it is also there's like a generational

37:16

story of you have people that have been

37:19

by the sides of kings, know

37:21

the politics, know the economy, and then you

37:23

have this new class of rulers coming in

37:25

where it's like, I think Rhaenyra and Aegon

37:28

are more similar than we would like to

37:30

believe in terms of like, they've

37:32

never really had to know what they're doing.

37:34

They don't like they don't have strong hands.

37:37

One of them has Daemon who is a psychopath.

37:40

Yeah. And the other one had

37:42

Otto who had been the hand

37:44

of three kings, right, who was

37:46

actually trying to tell people how

37:48

you manage a kingdom and win

37:50

a war. He got out

37:52

of there, put Christian Cole in there who's essentially

37:55

Daemon's counterpart, his six-bit chance

37:57

on the other side of that. So.

38:00

It's it's it's kind of

38:02

the whole thing is fucked up You don't have good

38:04

leadership and people are gonna die it sucks that Chris

38:06

and Cole got something right this episode you liked it

38:08

No, I didn't I didn't at all.

38:11

I hated that right wait What are first of all

38:13

the haircut hair goes tail is Caesar That's how you

38:15

know ain't got no homies in this corner a

38:17

real home You'd have been like a man like efforts. You

38:20

gotta go back. I look at you Barbara mess you up,

38:22

but then you like a man I

38:24

ain't gonna lie, right? It's just terrible man like that

38:26

happened to me You're

38:28

deceived so when I first came to LA I Know

38:32

a barbershop to go to and I didn't have a

38:34

charm. I didn't have a van you you hung me

38:36

up first Yeah, who drew up

38:38

it in you just got your I didn't have

38:41

anybody to ask right? Like

38:43

that's the thing about going to a new place

38:46

and not knowing the black people there Yeah,

38:49

you got a bill, you know how Joe Biden

38:51

got to build back better plan When

38:53

you gotta go to a new place you

38:55

got a bill better blacks Yeah,

38:58

and I didn't know I was hanging out

39:00

with my homeboy Jeff Brett, Bula tech Dan

39:03

these were the people that I met right like

39:06

I got a $500 sublettered apartment out in Van

39:10

eyes no air conditioning nice

39:13

Like what I had to like just fucking

39:15

going crazy, but my my fucking roommate was

39:18

my friend Me and Dan became

39:20

cool and we decided to get another apartment

39:22

But these people weren't black and the

39:24

people I work with a Capricorn weren't black I didn't know where

39:26

to go get my haircut at so

39:29

I went to the drugstore and

39:31

I bought clippers And

39:37

I was cutting my own hair what year was

39:39

this this is 2006

39:43

this is this when the hairline started to go no The

39:46

hairline stayed pretty strong until I mean I told you

39:48

Trey was the one that told me my current barber

39:50

was the one that told Me yeah, we gotta we

39:52

gotta push this back I mean, I need and then

39:54

that was that was a tough. That was a tough

39:57

day. Okay, so I'm cutting my

39:59

own hair just Because just to cut

40:01

it all over and keep it down, no line, no nothing, just to

40:03

cut it all over. And

40:07

I'm at the gym one time, right? I'm

40:09

shooting basketball or whatever. And after a game, I'm

40:11

starting to make friends. I'm starting to get my

40:13

body back. I'm playing ball. I'm

40:16

starting to make friends. I'm sitting down. And this kid,

40:18

Chris, who I used to play with all the time,

40:20

he goes, he looks at me. He goes, fuck, who

40:22

cut your hair? And

40:25

I was like, I did it.

40:27

And he goes, oh,

40:30

it's OK. That's

40:32

tough. That's tough. Let me tell you how

40:34

good Chris is a cool little guy. He

40:37

was one of those dudes that wasn't

40:39

really athletic, but was a really good basketball

40:41

player because he was so coordinated. Just like

40:43

a soccer player that could play basketball. I

40:45

loved it. A couple of days ago, Chris

40:48

goes, he's

40:50

like, yo, this is my man, Ron.

40:52

Hey, Ron, what's up? Hey, could you

40:54

tell Van where to go get his hair? He

40:59

knew the guy. I didn't even ask him. And

41:02

then he told me to go

41:04

down the street to

41:06

this barbershop. And that's where I met Trey. And

41:10

then Trey can train my barber, got kicked out of

41:12

that barbershop. I followed him to another barbershop. He got

41:14

kicked out of that one. I followed him to another

41:16

barbershop. He got kicked out of that one. You want

41:18

to tell people why Trey keeps getting kicked out of

41:20

barbershop? No. I got my Trey

41:23

ones. I was like,

41:25

damn. And literally

41:27

Trey's been my barber since 2007. But

41:30

I was trying to cut my

41:32

own hair. And I was wondering when Christian Cole

41:34

was there, who's going to tell Christian

41:37

Cole? Who's going to introduce Christian Cole to a

41:39

good barber? I

41:41

think it's more utilitarian because he's got to put the

41:43

helmet on. And clearly, he's got too much hair going

41:46

on. So I think it's just more of a say,

41:48

all right. He's fucking, what is this going on, bro?

41:50

Fabian Frankel said that was the plan, right? When you

41:52

go to war, you got to be not presentable, but

41:55

you can't cut your shit. Yeah, you got to be

41:57

locked in. Still not great. What

41:59

do we think about Allison's? brother. Gwayne

42:01

the prick and I love it. I love how

42:03

the show just spawns new characters. Just

42:06

like they mentioned Darren last

42:08

week, this week, and she's like, oh yeah, I've

42:10

had a brother the whole time. He was out

42:12

there in Old Town doing whatever. But once again

42:15

too, this is what I, this is like, Kristen

42:17

Cole isn't keeping it peeved. Like

42:19

he's being a simp. He's like, damn,

42:21

Shawty, I'm going out to war. You

42:24

know, you want to show me any love? The minute she gives

42:26

her little handkerchief, he acts like he's too good for it. And

42:28

they doing it right in front of the brother. I'm

42:30

like, yo, I genuinely think that the brother

42:33

doesn't give a shit about that. Clearly.

42:35

But the funniest thing was when, is when Allison's

42:38

just like, yeah, I hope you don't fucking die

42:40

like an idiot. I

42:43

want to know whether or not the

42:45

brother, what's his name? Gwayne. Gwayne.

42:48

I want to know whether or not Gwayne is nice with the sword. He's

42:51

probably not. I don't know. He

42:53

might be because, because he was talking

42:55

so much cash money shit to him.

42:58

And we were watching that scene and I was like, yo,

43:01

is he fucking with him? Like

43:03

he just comes on the scene. He's

43:05

got a little Jamie Lannister bullshit to

43:07

him to wear the rich Prince that

43:09

like he seems to be pretty brave.

43:12

I mean, he doesn't take the situation

43:14

seriously. He was like, oh, you got

43:16

my dad fired. Yeah. But

43:18

like, it was made more of it. It was

43:20

like, oh, this the guy who took my pops

43:22

job. Yeah, that's good. I was like, he said,

43:24

let me say you just like, dog, you look

43:26

like you a poor boy. You from nothing

43:28

like you. Yeah. Like, look at how

43:30

you came up. I'm like, damn, I could I. He was like,

43:32

well, you're kids at the ski resort. I

43:34

could just take out these swords.

43:36

He was better. But here's

43:38

the other issue. Christa Cole

43:41

was like, you guys got it. You

43:44

guys are going to the end. We got to get

43:46

back. There's dragons. I'm like, Cole, this

43:48

is what doesn't make sense to me. The

43:51

dragons most likely if they just fly that way

43:53

can already see the army probably. So

43:55

it's just like that in the trees. Once

43:58

again, if I'm B.L.L. but also they're making

44:00

the black people dumb as fucking brinks. I'm

44:03

telling Torch this whole thing. Well, she was told

44:05

not to engage. Don't engage. She could have killed

44:07

them. And she definitely pretty much engaged. She

44:09

could have killed them before. She could have just had the dragon

44:11

breathe fire when they were running away, would have killed the horses,

44:13

too, which would have been fucked up. But

44:16

she could have killed them, but she was

44:18

told not to engage. Once again, nobody is

44:20

a war time fucking general. If

44:23

I'm in the fucking sky and I see Sir Kristen call,

44:25

I'm like, I'm burning him to a crisp. We'll

44:28

get like, because also, everybody's who

44:30

sent the Eric, who sent Sir Eric? I'm

44:32

just like, it's probably this motherfucker. Let's burn

44:34

him to a crisp. This is my

44:36

problem with the blacks. The

44:39

team or the African-American? The

44:41

team blacks. This

44:43

is my problem with the blacks. This is my problem with team

44:45

blacks. So this show is clearly

44:49

coded to make you care more about team black

44:51

to me, which is the difference between fire and

44:53

blood, which we talked about that, which is a

44:55

more even killed portrayal

44:58

of it. The

45:00

problem is they

45:03

are, it feels

45:05

like they're like the Democrats. Like

45:07

you're on their side, but it feels like they're too

45:09

pussy to win. They're too ineffectual. Yeah, it's like. Even

45:11

when they win, they lose. You know what I'm saying?

45:15

So it could have been over. You

45:17

could have burned up everyone. You didn't do it.

45:20

You could have burned up Christian Cole. You didn't

45:22

burn them up. Man, light the

45:24

whole force fucking fire on like, like. Smoky

45:27

to bear that whole fucking situation. Reneira had

45:29

the knife next to Allison in the minute.

45:32

They both realized, oh, we fucked up. And

45:34

she's like, no, no, no, don't worry about

45:36

it. I was wrong. I'm like, well,

45:39

you could. That's a much more nuanced. Killing

45:41

Allison wouldn't have done anything. Yeah, I wouldn't

45:43

have done anything. You would kill Allison right

45:45

there? Killing Allison wouldn't have done

45:47

anything. Whoa. If I were. Only

45:49

thing killing Allison would have done. See, this is why

45:52

I'm never going to war with this. We

45:54

did double sticks. Yeah, the dumbest sticks. She

45:57

snuck into. No, that's the right answer. You're

45:59

the dumbest thing she could have done. That's

46:01

actually an Aegon decision. You know what? You

46:04

are Aegon. Yeah. You're an Aegon

46:06

type of ruler. That's not a good R, Charles. You are

46:08

Aegon. Kill him. Kill him. Kill

46:10

him. I'm leaving. I'm

46:12

leaving with something. Oh, no, bro. Aegon,

46:14

Daemon, Charles III. I'm leaving with something. It

46:17

would have been like the stupidest thing. Let's break it down. But,

46:19

now, Allison doesn't really matter, okay? She's

46:22

the queen regent. It's not even a king.

46:24

So, you haven't done anything. And

46:26

even if you killed Aegon right now, Aemon would

46:28

take over, which is a good thing. She is

46:31

a million times swaver. Let's break

46:33

this down, okay? I

46:35

done traveled all this way, got dressed up

46:37

like a fucking nun. We

46:40

sit down. I realized that

46:42

this entire thing was because

46:44

you misheard. Emotional. And

46:46

you misheard some shit from a dying king. And

46:49

then instead of saying, like, oh,

46:52

yeah, like, we understand. Let's dead

46:54

this. Allison is just like fucking.

46:58

You know that she can't dead that. She

47:00

knows that she can. She's just like she can do now.

47:02

She's too late. She's too far down. She's

47:05

talking to her to try to get her to

47:07

persuade her son, okay? I

47:09

have a question. I want to know

47:11

what Kyle Chalkley, Mr. Midnight, and Zeneris

47:13

and Paris think about this. Do you

47:16

think that killing Allison in that situation

47:18

would have been a good idea? Probably

47:24

not. I think I agree that there's nothing

47:26

that would come out of it. I think,

47:28

though, that I understand

47:30

Charles' points as an

47:33

idea in that action

47:35

needs to be taken in some way. I

47:38

think my biggest problem with the show is that

47:40

Rhaenyra from a child is so different from who

47:42

she is as an adult. And that really disappointed

47:44

me because I wanted her to be this ruthless,

47:47

I know what I'm doing. I'm going to

47:49

rule this kingdom type. She

47:52

became this docile mother. There

47:54

was a lot of game left. Which is kind of weird. A

47:57

lot of game left for Rhaenyra to make a turn. they're

48:00

not strong women leaders on

48:02

the show? Well, I think

48:05

Renee says for sure. I wanted Reneera to

48:07

be stronger, though. I love

48:09

that as a 12-year-old, she was just like, I don't

48:12

give a fuck, I'm gonna do whatever I want. And

48:14

even like, okay, I hated that hookup scene with

48:17

Damon, but it was a great

48:19

scene because she was like, I'm in charge,

48:22

and if you don't like that, you can get the

48:24

fuck out of here. And he did. Hmm.

48:26

Choco-choco? I'm here for

48:28

the drama, man. I'm

48:31

no killing Allison. I say kill Allison just for

48:33

the drama. That's how I know you ain't got

48:35

no brains. No, because also I want to ask

48:37

you, guys, guys, guys, they're gonna

48:39

leave. At that point, she

48:41

already realizes Allison has basically picked

48:44

genocide over just being like, I was wrong. So

48:46

at this point, I'm just like, I gotta get

48:49

rid of you, and I'm gonna run out of

48:51

here. Again, her hand is forced with this, because

48:54

she's like, there's no way that I can

48:57

go to that council and be like, yeah,

48:59

fucked up. This is gonna be a great

49:01

look for me. So all the restaurants has

49:03

to fucking burn to a crisp because you

49:06

made a mistake, you can't own up to

49:08

it? Guys, guys, that's dickhead momentum. So she

49:10

stabs Allison, and

49:12

then what? She just walks out of there? No,

49:14

she's dead. I'm trying to

49:16

remember that she's the ruler of her king. So

49:18

that's not a fair trade. Why

49:21

is she in a non-costume, sneaking into

49:23

fucking Kings Landing? I will say this.

49:25

I was actually, I love that scene.

49:28

First of all, the stakes of the scene were

49:30

so high, you have this, it's not in

49:32

the books. It's not in the books. So basically,

49:34

and Joanna mentioned this yesterday, but in

49:36

this part in the books, Renier

49:39

is more or less off

49:41

the board and not doing much,

49:43

it seems, because her

49:45

small council is basically running

49:47

how the operational things are working

49:49

here. So it makes sense for

49:52

this part in the books that the historians didn't

49:54

know about a secret meeting between

49:56

her and Allison in an

49:59

attack. attempted peace talks, that's

50:01

the secret meeting at the Sept. I

50:03

liked that. I also liked the idea

50:05

that this massive misunderstanding does,

50:08

just goes unanswered for this long.

50:10

To know that nobody knew that

50:13

she just misheard the king. And when

50:15

she realizes that it's like, oh,

50:17

that was a story about the conqueror, not my son. And

50:23

then Alison knows, but

50:25

once again, dickhead momentum.

50:28

It's something that we demonstrate on this

50:30

podcast a lot. Absolutely. Let's

50:33

do Jomi more than anyone. What is? Jomi,

50:36

when Jomi, there's nothing more useless

50:39

than proving Jomi wrong. Jomi

50:41

goes down with the ship. This is

50:43

true. It does not matter. Jomi, like

50:45

Jomi goes down with the, make sense,

50:48

just leave it. She's just got pulled

50:50

forward. Jomi goes down with the ship.

50:52

She realizes she's wrong. And

50:56

like my dad used to say, sometimes

50:58

son, you just gotta keep

51:00

going forward. It's

51:03

called dickhead momentum. Wait, so my question though,

51:05

because I actually think you guys are right.

51:07

I'm like, fucking, but there

51:10

was, the reason I guess I have so many

51:12

issues, not with the scene is

51:14

more so, did

51:16

Reneera really think that

51:19

she could persuade Alison? Because my

51:22

whole thing, like once Aegon is

51:24

on that throne, there's

51:27

nothing you can do to get him off

51:29

besides killing him. I mean, Massaria

51:32

had very good points right before the execution of

51:34

this plan. She's like, killing her would be easier.

51:37

This is incredibly fraught. It's

51:39

possible. And it's a massive

51:41

long shot. Well, yeah, she was talking about the

51:44

mission to go see her. Yeah. Not

51:46

necessarily the conversation. I think it was like a Hail

51:48

Mary of Hail Marys, right? What is

51:50

the most positive outcome of this? Oh,

51:52

hey, my fault. Let me go talk to my

51:55

kid. And I think maybe we can

51:57

work something out. But here's the thing. wants

52:00

the throne. And it's like the

52:02

high towers are not going to give up

52:04

the throne, because the whole thing that was

52:06

in the first season that is really

52:09

animating Allison is who

52:12

protects us if

52:14

my son isn't on the throne? It's

52:16

not just that she misheard the king.

52:19

It's like, oh, the minute that Rhaenyra's

52:21

on the throne, my kids are always

52:23

going to be competition. There's always going

52:25

to be fighting. Other heirs, yeah. It's

52:27

like, even if the two of them

52:30

do me and do come to an

52:32

understanding, logically, at this

52:34

point, the dick had momentum, Allison knows, I can't

52:36

kick my son off the throne. There would have

52:38

to be some kind of peace agreement to where

52:40

she had her reign. And then

52:43

maybe, because everyone's a Targaryen, there

52:45

was a promise to keep them alive,

52:50

or give them dragonstone,

52:52

or they would

52:54

marry. So

52:56

there would be shared power. Rhaenyra and

52:58

Aegon, but that's the other problem, too,

53:01

where it's just like, Rhaenyra wouldn't want to

53:03

do that. Well, not Rhaenyra and Mary, Aegon.

53:05

Aegon would have to, someone

53:07

would have to get married to bind the

53:09

two sides of the family for the next

53:12

set of people to reign, or something like

53:14

that. And nobody's agreeing to that. I mean,

53:16

it's too far now. Everything's

53:20

too far. How long of

53:23

a friendship do you guys have? Who's

53:25

your oldest friend? My

53:27

buddy, Jay. I've known him since I was like

53:30

six. What about you? Yeah.

53:33

I mean, my best friend. Shout out to Dan, my twin.

53:35

Known him for 31 years. Oh,

53:38

that was so sweet. I

53:40

know folks I've known since 1998. Since

53:43

you were born. My oldest friend,

53:46

Ryan Davenport, met him first grade,

53:48

first grade. First day

53:50

of first grade is the oldest friend I have. My other friends,

53:53

you guys have met some of these guys. Oh,

53:55

you guys met Ryan too? You met everybody? You didn't meet him,

53:57

but you met everybody at the. Was he

53:59

at your party? At the park. Yeah, you guys,

54:02

yeah, you weren't there. But you, but you, but

54:04

Ryan, Ian, all of those guys are my oldest

54:06

friends, right? Yeah. The thing about

54:08

having friends that's that long is

54:12

understanding not how you grow together,

54:15

but how you grow apart. Because

54:17

what happens is, you know,

54:21

everybody knows this about friendships, and sometimes this

54:23

is why some people are good at having

54:25

long friendships and some people aren't. The

54:28

more you have a friendship with

54:30

someone, the more you have

54:33

to accept the parts of them that

54:35

you don't know from

54:37

age seven, age eight, age

54:39

nine. They do things and

54:42

you try to weave them back in to who

54:44

they are. But the foundation

54:46

of what you have

54:49

of the building blocks of who they are, like you might

54:51

know why they made a decision that you don't agree with.

54:54

You might know why they've done something wrong because

54:56

you know all that trauma. You always go back to that. Like

54:59

that's why when you're talking to someone, you always

55:02

go, hey, I knew you win. Hey,

55:04

I knew you win. When there was nothing on

55:06

the line, but we were just trying

55:08

to figure out how to have a good time,

55:11

and you always appeal to that person. You never

55:13

appeal to the person that your

55:15

friend has become. You appeal to the

55:17

person that they were. That's what

55:19

she was trying to do. She said, we

55:21

were at the attorney when my brother was born.

55:24

She was trying to appeal to the person she

55:26

first met because she's like, this isn't

55:28

who you are. This isn't who

55:30

I am. This is what they've done

55:33

to us. Let's remember

55:35

back when we looked at all of

55:37

this as grotesque and

55:39

perverted and wrong. Do you

55:41

remember? And she said, I

55:43

don't care. See,

55:46

I mean, she did. She like, she said,

55:48

and look, when you have a friend for

55:50

a long time, like it's worked before. I've

55:52

had tough conversations with people that were doing

55:54

things that were really detrimental to their lives

55:56

to where I had to be like, yo,

55:58

brother, this ain't you. Like,

56:00

I'm telling you, I know you. You don't want to be

56:02

this. You don't want to do this. This ain't you. Sometimes

56:05

you give the person space, but like, I've had conversations with people

56:08

where I was like, you're gonna end up dead. You're

56:10

gonna end up in jail. This ain't you. I know

56:12

you. It's me. It's Van. And it works. And sometimes

56:14

it doesn't work. You know what I mean?

56:17

And in this situation, she attempted to do

56:19

that. This was probably

56:21

the bravest thing that anyone on the

56:23

show has done in either

56:26

season, and it just didn't work. Now,

56:30

we can fight. This conversation had

56:32

to happen, and now we can

56:34

fight. Maybe Allison couldn't have

56:36

done anything, but the

56:38

two little girls that we met before,

56:41

they're gone. Because now she has to

56:43

change to

56:45

meet the standard

56:47

that's been set by Hightower, because

56:50

it's never, ever going to be like

56:52

it was. We're gonna fight now.

56:55

And that's why this scene, it had

56:57

to take place. It had to work, because

57:00

this is essentially ripping the seatbelt off and

57:02

the plane is going down. Let's

57:04

see who can survive the crash. I

57:07

mean, the other thing, speaking

57:09

of just... Really,

57:12

just heartbreaking moments, but also

57:14

I kind of laughed, is when

57:17

Allison walks in and

57:19

Helena's just like, I forgive

57:21

you. And you realize in that moment... With

57:23

her little caged up crickets. You just realize

57:25

in that moment, Helena's not stupid. Everybody's

57:28

like, where was Sir Kristen Cole? Where was

57:30

the King's Guard? She also ran into the

57:32

bedroom and that was happening. No, but it

57:34

is this thing of just like, oh,

57:37

this is how this family, this

57:40

is how this royalty, this throne...

57:44

It destroys you. And I think even this

57:46

conflict, if you think about it, where it's

57:48

like, Rhaenyra and Allison,

57:51

the thing that actually destroys their friendship

57:54

is their families. Both of them

57:56

at a very young age have to decide. They're

57:58

just like... what is the actual

58:00

core of this family and what will

58:03

I do to protect it? And Alison makes

58:05

the choice that I'm more of a high

58:07

tower than I am a

58:10

Targaryen. Even though I'm married into this family,

58:13

I'm going to pick my family, I'm gonna pick

58:15

my kids. And Rene is like, she's like, I'm

58:18

going to pick my side too. Cause that's all

58:21

you have. But what's funny about that is, it

58:24

doesn't seem like either of these sides really love their family

58:26

that much. And now hell nah, they're

58:28

killing everybody up. Alison goes, I'm not even worried

58:30

about your kid. I'm more so worried about you.

58:32

I'm like, you could worry about both. There's

58:35

one black character, what's Corlys? I

58:38

fuck with Corlys. Cause Corlys is, you try to bring

58:40

Corlys to it, Corlys is like, I got shit to

58:42

do. You gotta fix that shit. I'm

58:44

building the ship. And we got barnacles to scrape.

58:47

Y'all got some crazy shit going

58:49

on. Man, I done lost my

58:52

brother. I done lost my

58:54

son. Like, I don't look. Do

58:56

you think that was posting up clarity? Probably.

58:58

Cause last episode he was in bed just

59:00

like, selling the dream. He's like, yeah, you

59:02

the boss. Yeah, you got it. I mean, he's

59:04

essentially the jomi of the show. And

59:08

more ways than once. He didn't got, he even got

59:10

him a white girl. He married to a family. What

59:12

is he trying to do? Trying to fix the ship

59:14

to go out on the water. You don't want to

59:16

be involved. It's already cost him too much. He told

59:18

her, he said, you know what? I'm

59:20

not an invalid anymore. I'm feeling better. I

59:23

don't give a fuck about what y'all, that's

59:26

white people with white people. I got other shit to do.

59:28

Y'all got it. He's fixing the Chevy and

59:31

the fucking job. I leave me alone, bro. Do not

59:33

hit my line. Man,

59:35

do not hit my line. Yo

59:37

man, do not disturb. Hold

59:40

on real quick. Shout out to

59:42

my Uncle Joe. We

59:44

come into my, my uncrib,

59:46

right? We come into my uncrib

59:49

and I walk in there and my

59:51

Uncle Joe is standing there and he's got a hat

59:53

on and he's got driving gloves on

59:56

because he has a car. And

59:59

then every Sunday, One day he would take the car

1:00:01

out and drive it around Baton Rouge. And

1:00:03

it was a crazy car, man. It

1:00:06

was like one of them, like a John Wick car,

1:00:09

a John Wick hat. So he was driving around

1:00:11

to be seen. Driving around to be seen. He

1:00:13

got his drive in his own. Okay.

1:00:16

Okay. The whole nine. This

1:00:18

is highlighted his week. But when we come

1:00:21

in, they're watching this video and

1:00:23

the video was called, it used to be out

1:00:25

in the day. People are not going to remember

1:00:27

this video. The video is called, where there's a

1:00:29

will, there's an A. And

1:00:31

it was an educational video. Look it up.

1:00:34

It was an educational video for bad

1:00:36

students to try to help them get

1:00:40

their lesson better. Right? My

1:00:42

get their lesson. I sound like my dad. To study better. Where

1:00:44

there's a will, there's an A. Look it up. You see it?

1:00:47

Yeah. It's like an hour 16. It

1:00:49

was an hour 16. It was a video series that you would

1:00:51

put on for kids that were doing bad, bad,

1:00:53

and you would try this is how you study. This is

1:00:55

what you do. Whatever, whatever. And so

1:00:57

he wanted to go drive his car,

1:01:00

but my aunt wanted him to stay

1:01:03

with the kids and watch where there's a

1:01:06

will, there's an A. Because

1:01:08

they were getting bad grades. Fuck them

1:01:10

kids. We walk in. I'm mad too,

1:01:12

because I only came over there to

1:01:14

play Nintendo. This

1:01:16

has anything to do with me. I don't give a

1:01:18

fuck about these niggas grades. I

1:01:21

remember I asked, I was like, well, if they're going to watch this,

1:01:23

can I go upstairs and play Nintendo? She was

1:01:25

like, no. You sit down and watch

1:01:27

this too. I'm like, I'm not stupid though.

1:01:30

Like, why would I need to look

1:01:32

at this? I'm not stupid. I don't

1:01:35

need to watch where there's a will,

1:01:37

there's an A. I really came

1:01:39

over here to play Mario Brothers and Contra. So

1:01:42

you see Joe, you see Joe

1:01:44

standing over there. He got the driving gloves together.

1:01:47

They sitting down, we watching. Everyone

1:01:49

is miserable. And my mom. This

1:01:51

is an hour and 15 minutes worth

1:01:53

of shit. It's a long thing with these two

1:01:55

white people trying to teach you how to get

1:01:57

good grades. And

1:02:00

my mom is like, look at Joe. Joe

1:02:03

is in hell right now. Because

1:02:06

all he wanted to do was

1:02:08

get to, and he stood up and he was like,

1:02:10

cut the video off. Cut

1:02:14

the video off. They cut the video off. He goes, this is what

1:02:16

I'm going to tell you. Where there's

1:02:18

a will, there's an A, and A stands

1:02:20

for ass whoop. Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye,

1:02:22

aye, aye, aye. I'm going

1:02:25

to whoop y'all asses. You got me

1:02:27

standing here. It's Sunday. I

1:02:29

want to drive my vehicle. It's

1:02:32

Sunday. I

1:02:34

want to drive my vehicle. Yo.

1:02:38

All right. The act is going to be some

1:02:40

ass whoopin's if y'all going to get your grades

1:02:42

up. I'm going, god damn it. And then you

1:02:44

walked out of there and all you heard was,

1:02:46

skrrr. Skrrr. He

1:02:51

peeled out to the donut. I'm

1:02:56

doing burnouts and bad news. You're going to have

1:02:58

to freeze now. Yo. The

1:03:05

kids are just sat there. And

1:03:07

then everybody started laughing. And

1:03:09

then everybody started laughing. We played Nintendo the

1:03:12

whole night. Did their grades improve? Nigga,

1:03:14

I don't know. I

1:03:17

don't know. They were great kids. That's Corallus.

1:03:19

That's Corallus. Don't we? That's Corallus. You'll be

1:03:21

bringing us to this boat. What we're on

1:03:23

Corallus, I know we've already touched upon this.

1:03:27

I'm going to say something that might be controversial. OK.

1:03:31

I do believe in diversity. But if this how

1:03:33

they're going to do my brothers and sisters in these

1:03:35

shows, just put all

1:03:37

white people back in that shit, bro. Because instead

1:03:39

of making the black people cool, now

1:03:42

we got to do that thing where it's like sometimes

1:03:44

it'll be like, I'll see a Kingsguard member. It'll not

1:03:46

be like one black dude that doesn't say anything. I'm

1:03:48

like, is that really what our mission was? I thought

1:03:50

Bailah was cool this week. Yeah, Bailah was great. Our

1:03:53

moon dancer? Yeah. Buzzing the

1:03:55

towers. The paradigm fell cold enough.

1:03:58

She spotted Christian Cole. from like how many colliders in

1:04:00

the air. Thought it was

1:04:03

tight, no? All

1:04:05

right, I love my black queens. I love my sisters, but

1:04:07

we ain't gonna lie on this show. I thought it was

1:04:09

tight. What does she do cool? She flew around

1:04:11

in the air and then went back to her mom and be like,

1:04:13

hey, I saw Sir Kristen Cole. Yeah. Yeah. It's

1:04:15

very important. Yeah, it's a good thing. I don't think that we need

1:04:18

our own Game of Thrones show though. Nah,

1:04:20

nah. We do. I don't know,

1:04:22

man. We need our own Game of Thrones. But they

1:04:24

don't give us our own, like we need our own

1:04:26

Star Wars show. I know. I'm talking

1:04:28

about all black. We need our own Star Wars

1:04:30

show. We need our own Game of Thrones show.

1:04:32

We need our own one. We need our own

1:04:34

one. You thought the conversation about the acolyte

1:04:36

was bad. Oh, we don't need it. Well,

1:04:38

fuck that. Look, I like that. That

1:04:43

would be so hilarious. There's gonna be a new show full of

1:04:45

yours. Actually, I just agree with you, Jomi, because here's the thing.

1:04:48

The incels, when it's something all black, like

1:04:51

Atlanta, right, white people love that Atlanta,

1:04:53

because when they see black people being

1:04:55

cool, having fun, our TV shows are

1:04:57

hitting, they get jealous. They're like, damn,

1:05:00

shit, this is pretty good. I'll tell you,

1:05:02

I'll do my own Star Wars show about

1:05:04

four Jedi, going around

1:05:06

the galaxy, having to clean the

1:05:08

galaxy up. My four Jedi would be Dyrrae

1:05:11

Davis, Lil

1:05:13

Duval, Wow. Cedric

1:05:15

the Entertainer, and Nick Cannon. Cedric the

1:05:17

Entertainer? Cedric the Entertainer and Nick Cannon.

1:05:19

Does he have the hat on as

1:05:21

a Jedi? As a Jedi, because those

1:05:23

are four brothers that are ridiculously entertaining

1:05:25

and funny. Sure. You know what

1:05:27

I'm saying? Yeah, Nick Cannon could be your

1:05:30

action Jedi. Action Jedi. Action.

1:05:32

Nick Cannon is leaving babies on every planet.

1:05:35

You go to Coruscant, he got three kids. You

1:05:37

go to Naboo, he got four. You

1:05:39

go to Tatooine, he got six. I'll

1:05:41

add a black female Jedi, because we got to have

1:05:43

one. Got to have one. I'll add a black female

1:05:45

Jedi. Only one? Yeah, we'll have one.

1:05:48

I mean, let's not get crazy. What, we're all

1:05:50

like, pfft. What? Oh, Jesus. Oh,

1:05:52

my God. It's

1:05:55

not crazy, OK? What? What?

1:05:59

What? You

1:06:01

gotta have a sister. That's why I said that. Just the only one.

1:06:04

Y'all took it. Y'all are the ones that took

1:06:06

it negative. I was, I

1:06:08

was, I was, I was saying, you're gonna give us two.

1:06:11

And that's great. Okay. And that's what we're

1:06:13

doing. Well, there'll be more black female characters on

1:06:15

the show, but as, and, and Jedi, we're

1:06:18

doing this. And we go

1:06:20

Taraji P. Henson. She did a

1:06:22

fantastic situation there. Look, if,

1:06:25

if they do it, you'll get five black

1:06:27

British actors. But

1:06:31

no, this is who I want. And like, funny. And then

1:06:33

we'll do the same thing with Game of Thrones. We do

1:06:35

the same thing again to give us our own stuff because

1:06:37

when we're in the other stuff, we

1:06:39

get marginalized. Okay. We didn't even talk

1:06:41

about Allen and the brother last week.

1:06:43

Like we just completely forgot. We marginalized

1:06:45

them. What was I supposed

1:06:48

to say? It was like, who is he?

1:06:50

You cooking some gumbo at home? Yeah, man.

1:06:52

Does it got pork in it? Hell yeah,

1:06:54

bro. That's a terrible. Like, come on, bro.

1:06:56

I basically said you got some stew. In

1:06:59

between the Corliss conversation, like, you can go sail with

1:07:01

Corliss. Like, I'm not really trying to do all that.

1:07:03

Man, I want to eat the stew with carrots. They're

1:07:05

talking to him like, like that might, that might be

1:07:07

his dad. Yeah. I

1:07:10

have a question about the Targaryen

1:07:12

hair. Okay. Right. So,

1:07:18

the strong kids are

1:07:21

not blonde. Why? Is

1:07:23

it, I, I have a question. This is science

1:07:25

corner. Is it a dominant or a recessive trait?

1:07:27

Well, I'm saying because Alison's

1:07:30

kids are blonde. Yes. Yeah.

1:07:32

And she is not a

1:07:34

Targaryen, but her kids became blonde. Yeah. Does

1:07:37

the blondness only transfer through the father?

1:07:40

Because, because the strong kids are not

1:07:42

blonde, yet their mother is

1:07:45

a Targaryen. I

1:07:47

would, I would guess. How

1:07:49

does that work? So I'm trying to make sure that, I mean, I see that

1:07:51

the other, yeah, cause she was-

1:07:54

Damon's kids, black and blonde. Yeah.

1:07:56

It's also more- It's not, it's not a dangerous- No, no,

1:07:59

no, no. Damon's kids. No. Damon married a black,

1:08:01

oh, she was blonde. She was blonde. Yeah,

1:08:03

she was blonde. But Reneerah's kids

1:08:05

were Damon blonde, but her kids,

1:08:07

what's his face now? Not blonde.

1:08:09

Yeah. Strong, but also

1:08:11

Damon blonde. Yeah.

1:08:14

Damon with the white hair. So the only

1:08:16

ones that are strong kids. Yeah, strong, good

1:08:18

kids. I'm not gonna admit

1:08:20

it, but about Jon Snow. Not

1:08:23

blonde. Not blonde. He's what? He's

1:08:25

the mother. The mother. The mother.

1:08:27

Yeah. It was the mother. It's

1:08:30

for the strongs, it's for the story, right? Because it's obviously not.

1:08:32

That's not what we're... I know, but I'm saying,

1:08:34

I understand that you're trying to have. That's a glitch out. We

1:08:36

mean that's not a glitch out. That's a glitch out, right? It's

1:08:39

a glitch out, right? Obviously we know it's for the story, but

1:08:41

the question is, how does it work? Like,

1:08:43

it works. All right, yeah, that was a

1:08:45

glitch out. No, explain yourself. No, I mean,

1:08:47

it's obvious the whole point is that their

1:08:50

hair is brown, so we can

1:08:52

be like, hey, man, that's what

1:08:54

your kids, I mean, Alison's white. Also that they're white. Well,

1:08:57

the strongs. Yeah, because she was at the time

1:08:59

she was married to... To Leinor, yeah. Yeah, Leinor.

1:09:01

Little things like, once you'll get one that looks

1:09:03

like you or something like that, like that's on

1:09:05

purpose, I think everybody

1:09:08

else has white hair, so you don't really

1:09:10

think about it. Right. I

1:09:12

know what to button this

1:09:15

up. I do agree with you, Van, that

1:09:17

it is very confusing, because this was the first episode, because

1:09:19

what's the name of the... The

1:09:22

Dragon Seed? Dragon Seed. Oaf? Oaf?

1:09:25

That was in the end of the episode. Best Hang in

1:09:27

Westeros. Yeah, it was talked about. I'm just like, what's going

1:09:29

on with the Targaryen hair? Because it's like, if

1:09:33

it's the father with blonde hair, it seems like at least

1:09:35

what this show is telling us, it's

1:09:37

something that the father has to pass down,

1:09:39

because if it's just the mother, they're going

1:09:41

to have not really blonde hair to be honest.

1:09:44

But he was talking crazy in the bar, he's like, I

1:09:46

could ride a dragon, and people would want my head for

1:09:48

this. The bastard son of Baelin the Brave. Yeah. It's

1:09:51

funny, I liked him. David's his brother. I liked him, I liked

1:09:53

him. He's great. He was in there talking

1:09:55

his shit, he almost got forked off. No, I don't

1:09:57

like that. I'm like, talk your shit. Don't like, Aegon

1:09:59

can't. came in, hey, he bought drinks for

1:10:01

everybody. I don't know, you be my friend. Also,

1:10:03

I kind of feel like that's also the dude

1:10:05

who just hung 13 dudes for no reason. Very

1:10:07

true. You kind of, you gotta let that slide.

1:10:10

I mean, I will say, bro, shout

1:10:13

out to A-Man, cause you know A-Man was

1:10:15

embarrassed. You know what I'm saying? A-Man was

1:10:17

trying to get like, be like, hey, low,

1:10:20

bro, relax. Hey, dawg, he's

1:10:22

such a geek. He just gets up with

1:10:24

his hot D just hanging out and he's just

1:10:26

like, fuck all y'all. I just want it

1:10:28

all. Didn't even put

1:10:31

his clothes back on. You gotta show full

1:10:33

dawg. You just gotta let it

1:10:35

fly. I know what you're saying. Aim it. Aim

1:10:37

it, yeah. He was a show her. He was like, yeah, no, y'all

1:10:39

got it. He was mad

1:10:41

enough to be like, fuck all of this. I'm going

1:10:43

to war now. Yeah, but he was lying though, he

1:10:45

was like, it don't really matter. Yeah, but he can

1:10:47

get mad enough. He does have a vaguer down there,

1:10:50

which I was very, I was just like, you know,

1:10:52

good job, Jimmy. Shout out to him. But he was

1:10:54

definitely feeling some type of way. Yeah. Oh,

1:10:56

no, no, no, no. He was like,

1:10:59

is this Aemon being like, no, what,

1:11:02

first chance I get? Aemon's

1:11:04

acting. Yeah, his brother embarrassed him.

1:11:07

Yeah. In

1:11:09

front of everyone, his brother

1:11:11

embarrassed him. His brother doesn't

1:11:13

understand what a tender moment that is

1:11:15

for him. And he's drunk

1:11:17

and being a little bit too big. By

1:11:19

the way, the brothel scene had several scenes.

1:11:22

Look, you know, that really

1:11:25

is taken aback, okay? It's

1:11:28

like, there was a full on, it

1:11:34

was an aggressive BJ happening. Yeah,

1:11:36

it was very aggressive. I was like, what is that?

1:11:39

And look, and here's the thing, and let me tell

1:11:41

you why that's vindication for me. Okay. Okay.

1:11:44

Because I work

1:11:46

with, here on the Midnight Boys, a

1:11:49

regular person and then two

1:11:51

Amish. Yeah, right. Two Quakers. Okay.

1:11:54

Did you guys have to close your eyes when she was

1:11:56

giving that sloppy toppy? And so to

1:11:58

me, I'm glad y'all had a... Watch that. Sure.

1:12:02

Because it popped up. Illuminating gross. And I'm sure Jomie

1:12:04

hid under the covers. How could they? You

1:12:06

know what I mean? Like, what's going on?

1:12:08

No, he'll be like, I can't believe that

1:12:10

they did that to her. I can't believe

1:12:12

that she was in that situation in HBO.

1:12:14

Who put her there? Like, what's going on?

1:12:17

And to me, I'm looking at that. I'm like,

1:12:19

yeah, make Jomie look at it. Make Jomie look

1:12:21

at the fact. Make Jomie look at it? Yeah, I'm

1:12:23

like, make Jomie look at the fact that people do

1:12:25

that. And it's people been doing it for a long

1:12:27

time and make Jomie. Is this

1:12:29

a clockwork orange? We just have breads or something?

1:12:32

We like Jomie. That's what we should do. That's what we

1:12:34

should do. Yeah. By

1:12:37

the time Jomie is 30, I'm going to

1:12:39

have Jomie at the Exotica convention in Miami.

1:12:41

Jesus. I'm going to lie. Me

1:12:43

not boys should go to- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Now

1:12:46

let me tell you why Kerm laughed. Because

1:12:48

Kerm knows about it. Get on mic. Kerm, what's

1:12:51

so funny about the Exotica convention? What is it?

1:12:54

First of all, what is that, Kerm? Just off name alone.

1:12:56

No, don't do that. Don't do that. A playa conference?

1:12:58

Like, how am I going to do it? You

1:13:01

wanted to go out there for the mask off. You

1:13:04

know those videos on social media of the freaky

1:13:07

motherfuckers who are like standing in line for the

1:13:09

porn stars and they're like, don't do that. Don't

1:13:12

do that. Don't do that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't

1:13:14

do that. That's you. Like, Jomie

1:13:16

holding up a DVD. Huh. I got to

1:13:18

meet a Bill of Danger. She signed my DVD. You

1:13:20

ever see the guys and like the women that in there

1:13:23

like, yeah, I'm a danger. The

1:13:25

kiss of sins. Um, so. A

1:13:27

lot of the ghost. Also

1:13:30

wait, before we, before we

1:13:32

depart, what did, what

1:13:35

do we feel about the, the scene of

1:13:38

Damon having the vision of the tree? Oh,

1:13:40

that witchy stuff. Yeah. The witchy

1:13:42

shit where she's just like, you go die. Shout

1:13:44

out, Alice Rivers. I would immediately go home and

1:13:47

not do war. So if that happened

1:13:49

to me. So that

1:13:51

lady looked at him

1:13:53

crazy. And

1:13:55

then he was obviously

1:13:58

in an incredibly scary. seen

1:14:01

with Millie Alcock as

1:14:03

young, Manera, stitching

1:14:05

the kid back. And he looked, for the first

1:14:07

time, I saw fear in the character. I've never

1:14:09

seen Damon show fear before, but it seemed like

1:14:11

he was afraid. Well, so I talked

1:14:14

to Thrones to touch on this, but essentially,

1:14:16

Damon's whole thing is he

1:14:18

doesn't. So Viserys was like a dreamer,

1:14:20

right? Viserys was somebody who thought, like,

1:14:23

you know, that, like, he

1:14:25

would have visions and all that stuff. And

1:14:28

Damon thought that was whack. We didn't

1:14:30

become, I think in the trailer, there's

1:14:32

a line where it's like, dreams

1:14:35

didn't make us rulers, dragons did, right?

1:14:38

And so he's having a dream. He's having

1:14:40

a vision, and that scares

1:14:42

him because that he doesn't believe

1:14:44

in all that, right? It's

1:14:47

like when somebody sees magic for

1:14:49

the first time, like actual magic, someone's

1:14:51

like, whoa, you know, like, I

1:14:53

can't believe this is real. This is happening to me.

1:14:55

Oh, crap. Ah, it's

1:14:57

bad news for him, I think. And ultimately, it's

1:15:00

like, are you going to die? So I mean,

1:15:02

I already, I was expecting already,

1:15:04

I'm like, I haven't read ahead, but I

1:15:06

was just like, Damon, Damon's

1:15:09

not long for this world. And I don't know if

1:15:11

it's seasons, I don't know if it's episodes, but I'm

1:15:13

just like, he moving crazy out here. So

1:15:16

Damon's getting packed up. I'll tell you guys

1:15:18

something. Great episode, the show

1:15:21

is Cooking with Grease. Yes. Okay.

1:15:23

It's fun, I love the world. I

1:15:26

love House of the Dragon. It's

1:15:29

really good TV. It's really

1:15:31

good TV, I'm enjoying it,

1:15:33

I'm having fun with Hot

1:15:35

D. All right. It's

1:15:37

gonna get even better next week, man. You think so? I

1:15:40

mean, the title's Dance of the Dragon,

1:15:42

right? And it's directed by

1:15:44

Alan Taylor, who's directed a lot

1:15:46

of Game of Thrones episodes before, most notably

1:15:48

Baylor, season one, episode nine, if

1:15:51

you know, you know. So, you

1:15:54

know, it's gonna be busy, man.

1:15:56

Let's get it. I'll talk to you

1:15:58

guys next week. We'll see you guys next week. The

1:16:00

Vhagar flying. They got all these dragons,

1:16:02

brother. About to get into it, man.

1:16:05

Everybody was like, man, where the dragons at, man? Where the beef at?

1:16:08

It's time, let's go. Yeah, we got budgetary

1:16:10

concerns. 6PL,

1:16:12

man, spend the budget. Spend it, spend the money,

1:16:14

HBO. Spend the money, man. Spend the money. You

1:16:17

guys got one of the only shows. Spend the money. Make

1:16:19

sure you guys watch, by the way, me and Charles doing

1:16:21

the bear. Bear Prestige TV, up

1:16:23

now. Yeah, it's up right now. Man,

1:16:25

people have been really harsh on the

1:16:27

bear. I don't know. It's

1:16:30

getting Ted Lasso. It's like they don't laugh.

1:16:32

Really? I haven't finished it. Really? Ted Lasso?

1:16:34

No, no, no. I'm not saying the show

1:16:36

is Ted Lasso, but you know how after

1:16:38

Ted Lasso. People are dunking on it. Fuck

1:16:40

this show. It just got too popular. Really?

1:16:42

Now people are like, that's. That's your generation,

1:16:44

by the way. Who's y'all generation? Like, your

1:16:46

generation, like, the show comes out,

1:16:48

and it's like, you can't wait for the show to,

1:16:50

like, fucking, and it's right now. And then it misses

1:16:52

a step for one season, and we're like, fuck this

1:16:54

show. Everything's actually. Because we did that with The Wire

1:16:57

season, too. And we turned on The Wire

1:16:59

season, too, and it was all of these white people. And

1:17:01

we were like, what the fuck is this? Is this? So

1:17:04

are we watching CMT? Yo.

1:17:07

Like, what the fuck

1:17:09

is going on? Like,

1:17:12

what the hell is happening? And then

1:17:15

we watched the whole show. Then a couple of years later,

1:17:17

we was like, you know what? That shit was actually kind

1:17:20

of good. It was like, it was

1:17:22

crazy. I'm not letting y'all do that. The Wire

1:17:24

season, too, was good. It was good. It was

1:17:26

good. It was a good season. It's a good

1:17:28

season. We just joined or watched it. We'll take

1:17:30

over this another time. Midnight. It's almost like there's

1:17:32

another podcast for it somewhere. Yeah. That's a wrap.

1:17:34

Every Tuesday and Thursday, House of Arr will deep

1:17:36

dive into House of the Dragon and the Acolyte.

1:17:38

Guys, don't want to miss the Midnight Boys with

1:17:40

the Acolyte on Wednesday. I swear to God you

1:17:42

don't want to miss it, because the reality of

1:17:44

the situation is that it's going to be a

1:17:46

very important episode. We demand that you

1:17:48

watch us on Wednesday. We also demand that you

1:17:51

come to the live show. Look, the

1:17:54

live show is going to be going up. 17th,

1:17:57

all your favorite Midnight Boys are going to

1:17:59

be there. your favorite ring

1:18:01

averse people are gonna be there we're gonna go

1:18:04

crazy in this live show I'm promising you something

1:18:06

right now at this live show yes that

1:18:09

you're gonna want to be there in

1:18:11

person for the midnight boys are going

1:18:13

fucking nuts we might disrupt the whole

1:18:15

show we might take over the L-ray

1:18:17

theater might get Joe me Mary never

1:18:20

Joe me might get married we I'm

1:18:22

telling you this before the live show we're

1:18:24

gonna do a segment for the midnight boys on a live show are

1:18:27

eligible bachelorettes that want to meet Joe

1:18:29

me show

1:18:31

up to the live show we're gonna do

1:18:34

a day a Joe me dating show yeah

1:18:36

man with Joe me and I'm

1:18:47

telling you straight up if

1:18:50

you are lucky lady that wants

1:18:52

to come out and meet the

1:18:54

explainer come to the live show

1:18:56

15 inch warrior 15 inch warrior come to

1:19:01

the live show and by the way you

1:19:03

will then go on a date with Joe

1:19:05

me I will pay for the whole day

1:19:07

no you don't have to know Joe he's

1:19:09

gonna take you on a picnic he's gonna

1:19:12

he's gonna cook for you like like a

1:19:14

car service I might kiss you on the

1:19:16

boy my friends come and show I'm serious

1:19:18

you're gonna get the Joe

1:19:24

me experience if

1:19:27

you come to the live

1:19:29

show this is so we

1:19:31

are over promising here

1:19:36

I need to help I want to say

1:19:38

something real quick to before we please get

1:19:40

these tickets I need I need the help

1:19:42

of the reddit here reddit tell you something

1:19:44

right now the

1:19:46

reddit you've been feeling underrepresented which

1:19:49

I don't know I love

1:19:51

Facebook I hang out

1:19:53

with Facebook love Twitter I probably read

1:19:56

the reddit the most oh right so

1:19:58

I need the reddit to get involved in the face But

1:20:00

to get involved is Jomie's time live

1:20:02

show. We're doing crazy shit. There's gonna

1:20:04

be games. There's gonna be food There's

1:20:06

gonna be booze nose live show is

1:20:08

going up. There will be a dating

1:20:10

there will it'll happen There

1:20:12

will and then after that will put joke

1:20:14

Jomie's going out on a date with

1:20:17

a lucky lady Maybe too. Honestly

1:20:19

if we should we should do it for charity. What

1:20:22

do they do? Like? Dollars

1:20:25

take out Joe me on a date We

1:20:30

busting that up Both

1:20:42

men have to go to the dermatologist Now

1:20:48

Jomie, oh I'm keeping that crazy Joe

1:20:51

I get a good joke. No, no, no Yeah,

1:20:56

we talking about I definitely need I committed

1:20:58

to my job right now Yeah, your job

1:21:00

is gonna be this we doing a Jomie

1:21:02

dating show We

1:21:04

can't do more than five ladies. So don't overwhelm

1:21:06

us. Okay five ladies. Jomie. Damn you. It's actually

1:21:08

it's actually our June Please save me Oh

1:21:14

There's something in the Spotify handbook

1:21:17

against this right there's got me

1:21:20

it's happening. Show me just Fucking

1:21:23

let it go. Okay We'll

1:21:26

do anything to watch this bitch That's

1:21:33

a wrap every Tuesday and Thursday house of our deep dive

1:21:35

house of dragon act like it said that already every Monday

1:21:37

and Thursday The midnight boys will give you their reactions to

1:21:39

hot D Actually every Monday

1:21:42

we give you our reactions to hot D every Thursday

1:21:44

for the boys in the acolyte Actually

1:21:46

important episode of the boys to yeah, I think

1:21:48

about in terms of writing

1:21:50

this season not writing it But the season

1:21:52

being like kind of these are pivotal. You

1:21:54

guys have to come back

1:21:56

to the show on Wednesday Cuz I think

1:21:58

we will talk we're gonna talk acolyte in

1:22:01

the boys, but we should talk largely like

1:22:03

pivotal moments. Like, did they both stick to

1:22:05

land? Yeah, they're making the turn right now.

1:22:07

They're important episodes. And I nominate my

1:22:09

Visions of Superman for a conversation pretty soon as well.

1:22:11

I love that show. Oh, should I get caught up?

1:22:13

It looks good. It's really good. You should. It's really,

1:22:15

really good. All right, yo. I'm going to start watching

1:22:17

it, and maybe we just give him a little 15

1:22:19

at the end. Yeah. All right, cool. It's really, really

1:22:21

good this season. It really is. Every

1:22:25

Sunday, Talk the Thrones will be up right

1:22:27

after Lay's episode of Hot D N's. Our

1:22:29

producer is Steve the Architect, Almond. Jonathan, Choco

1:22:32

Tacos, what did you come up with? What

1:22:35

did you say? It's Mr. Chocolate. Mr. Chocolate

1:22:37

Kerma. Africa. Mr. Midnight Chocolate. I forgot

1:22:39

whatever. Coca, no, it's Coco something. I don't even remember.

1:22:41

I'm going to be honest with you. Coco King? Whoa,

1:22:43

whoa, whoa. The Midnight Man, whatever that shit was, that

1:22:45

shit was fine. Whoa, I got it. DJ

1:22:48

Nesquik. Duh! DJ Nesquik! Duh!

1:22:50

Mr. Come Out of Hand.

1:22:53

Oh! DJ Nesquik! That's right. That's our

1:22:55

report this week. DJ Nesquik! It's Good

1:22:57

Out of Hand. The way it appears

1:22:59

in there is, Jomi,

1:23:02

a dinner on social hashtag, MakeJomiLookAtIt. That's the

1:23:04

name of the game. It's the Jomi Look

1:23:06

At It. It's the Jomi Look At It.

1:23:08

It is, oh! Die,

1:23:11

you make Jomi look at it. Additional production

1:23:13

from our Junior Ram Capal. Oh my God.

1:23:15

Shout out to us. Justice

1:23:17

for the Blacks, the Midnight

1:23:19

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1:23:21

to Ring of Burst Live. And

1:23:24

if you're a white girl, for Jomi, you've got

1:23:26

to bring them Daisy Dukes. Boo!

1:23:28

Boo! Boo!

1:23:41

Arjuna gets us breakfast every time we

1:23:43

have to come in here and do a House of

1:23:46

the Dragon early. We should talk about that. Arjuna gives

1:23:48

us breakfast. Yes. 8 a.m.

1:23:50

He makes it himself. He gets up there and

1:23:52

he's preparing the bagels. He's doing all of that stuff. Let me

1:23:54

tell you, Arjuna, you

1:23:57

have the opportunity to do something next week for the breakfast.

1:24:00

It's nigga breakfast time. Okay?

1:24:04

Nigga breakfast? Nigga breakfast.

1:24:07

Let me tell you what Arjuna has been in

1:24:09

here bringing us the white man's breakfast. The

1:24:11

white man? Oh, appreciate you, Arjuna. We

1:24:13

appreciate the breakfast. We love the breakfast.

1:24:15

First of all, this is an ob...

1:24:17

See, everybody in your generation

1:24:20

takes everything as a criticism. It's not a criticism.

1:24:22

It's an observation. And

1:24:24

it's... So we get in here,

1:24:26

we get bagels, we got fantastic breakfast for

1:24:28

yourselves. Oh, those? I will say,

1:24:30

I went home and ate that shit and warmed it

1:24:32

up. I was like, God damn. Good. Breakfast

1:24:36

for yourselves. Great donuts, the whole thing. But I'm

1:24:39

telling you, Arjuna, right now, this is what you gotta do.

1:24:41

Next time is for breakfast. We

1:24:43

need some grits dripping with cheese,

1:24:46

some bacon. You know what I mean? Come in

1:24:48

here with some sausage. I mean, that's what I

1:24:50

wanna do. We gonna fall asleep

1:24:52

within five minutes, man. I want a big troughs of shit.

1:24:54

And we come in here and we be like, ah,

1:24:57

damn, man. I got a house of...

1:25:01

We out of this bitch. You know, after this, we go... It's a hospital

1:25:03

right up the street. We go straight to the emergency room, the whole nine.

1:25:06

Because when I... In Louisiana, we

1:25:08

would get sausage, bacon,

1:25:11

and then the other type of sausage,

1:25:13

cheese, grits, and pancakes, that's what my

1:25:15

mother would make for breakfast. That sounds

1:25:17

great. That sounds so good. So

1:25:19

one time, nigga, not for curm now. No.

1:25:23

Why? Why? These

1:25:26

are the people that are eating this breakfast. Okay. Nigga,

1:25:29

breakfast time. Aleah, Arjuna, and the

1:25:31

Midnight Boys. Kerm, you can't have

1:25:34

any. Tough. Wait,

1:25:37

why can't the chocolate champion get any

1:25:39

breakfast? The chocolate champion? That's

1:25:41

the fucking name. Chocolate champion. Chocolate

1:25:43

champion. No, none for you, Kerm.

1:25:46

Why, though? Like, I get an answer. We heard

1:25:48

what you said. Okay.