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1:00

don't have cooling truck? I'm nothing. Well, we just

1:02

flew through the night all the way to Ohio.

1:04

You've been bugging me for weeks and you don't have a cool I

1:06

thought you would land the Black Hawk on the roof. I thought

1:08

you would have a jingle, a something Can

1:10

we get a jingle? That's just what your time. See what

1:12

you need to get. Gong? You need to get the sound

1:14

board with the sound effects. Oh. Yeah.

1:17

That's Sang. -- gets yourself one of those. We make

1:19

that's, like, that is key. You guys had

1:21

a boy band for, why won't you guys play one of them songs? Yeah.

1:23

So we'll we'll do one of those here and do. Do you have any

1:25

instruments here? we can can get some. Guys,

1:27

we need some instruments. Just symbols. Probably tubas

1:30

mainly. Yeah. Hermonica is his special I actually

1:32

dig into harmonica. That's a lot of Yeah. Turns out everybody's

1:34

good at harmonica. If you don't agree, Some

1:36

people are good. He is phenomenal. Yeah. He has a

1:38

natural gift for Huron fans. We have footage.

1:40

We have footage of this. We'll send it your way. And

1:42

then you can decide. Turns out it's my only talent.

1:45

Yeah. It's all you got. Nothing. It's all you need.

1:47

Yeah. Guys, welcome to

1:50

the podcast. We got the Diesel Bros

1:52

in the house, which is crazy.

1:54

You guys flew on a red eye -- Yeah. --

1:56

all night. Yep. But I had, like, those pods

1:58

where you kinda, like, laid down, like, a bunch of hot dogs in there. But

2:00

you had a stop. We did have to stop in Detroit,

2:02

which was not ideal. Okay. I just

2:04

need to justify my red eyes, you know. We have

2:06

red eyes anyway, so I needed to It was a dedicated

2:09

dedicated trip. man. We made it happen freaking

2:11

honored to have you guys here. That was my first

2:13

time in those pods. Dude, life changing.

2:15

It actually That's not telling you any story.

2:17

Life He's been wanting to fly in the fillet

2:20

seats forever. Yeah. Right? And it just

2:22

just never worked out. So last night, I'm

2:24

booking a flight. Normally, he books the flight. Well, I turn the

2:26

tables because I took this very seriously for you. Right?

2:28

I booked the flights this time around. I actually

2:30

already had booked my flight. And he and

2:32

normally and I'm in the back. This sounds like

2:34

a dick move, but we booked first class

2:36

or we're Diamond or whatever, and he's usually, you know,

2:38

premium cut economy comforts. Just

2:40

right back. Yep. Just behind the curtain. Because you don't

2:43

normally buy the tea rolls or behind the

2:45

food. Yeah. So anyways, I

2:47

booked this flight, got him first class with us, and

2:49

it had the pod seats, and I didn't really think much of it. I

2:51

was excited to get some rest. Turns out, it's his first

2:53

time when he's been wanting to try him out for quite some time.

2:55

he was so damn excited that

2:58

he couldn't sleep. I didn't sleep. That happens.

3:00

I didn't sleep, man. I was just pumped with my

3:02

friends like a sleepover. up on my hitting

3:04

different recline buttons on. Dude, it's dangerous

3:06

getting better flights. Crohn's. So here's what

3:08

here's what happened to us and how we fell into that

3:10

danger zone was we we on YouTube, there

3:12

wasn't a lot of overhead. So you you needed

3:14

write offs. Yeah. So the account was like, spend

3:16

money on trips when you fly.

3:18

So, like, alright. That adds up. you

3:21

start in first class, then you start in those

3:23

pods, and then you can't go back. No.

3:25

You cannot go back. Sounds like

3:27

such a jerk thing to talk about,

3:29

but, like, Dude, I'll let you know on

3:31

the way back. Well, it is going big experience.

3:33

I'll be in the back. We have the sweet

3:35

pods all the way to Detroit, and then turns out

3:37

to get to Columbus There's no pods.

3:39

There's barely, like, bus seats. Yep. We

3:41

were in eighteen d, e, and b,

3:44

backed by the bathroom, and I have not

3:46

sat or just sounds very like pompous,

3:48

but I just don't do it. Like, I

3:50

I will spend any amount of money to be to

3:52

not have Russell's legs. Yeah. You know, kicking around.

3:54

And that happens when you like,

3:56

you're fine until you experience it. Yep. And then

3:58

you're broken forever. It's like it's like flying a helicopter.

4:00

Thursday? It is very similar flight. Well, I

4:02

gotta get my car drive. Yeah. No. Oh.

4:05

Drive where? Oh. God. I had to

4:07

drive here to be disgusting. The

4:09

thing now is, which helicopter are we taking?

4:11

Also, that's the conversation we have about our roads,

4:13

which one do we take dozens? Oh,

4:15

yeah. Clippoo.

4:19

That was a good podcast, guys. Well,

4:21

that's the end of the show. Speaking of the speaking

4:23

of roads. So on the

4:25

way in here, Ohio.

4:27

Right? This is my first I've been there pretty much every state. I

4:29

don't think I've been to Ohio. Right? Yeah. We haven't

4:31

been here. Well, I didn't know whether we

4:33

were driving into a Disney movie set or like

4:35

an m night shyamalan movie. It felt

4:37

like a little bit of bold. It was, like, really enchanting,

4:39

but at the same time, too enchanting. Like,

4:41

there's some for example, something

4:43

very strange stood out coming

4:45

through town. Just nobody's out

4:47

and nobody's about and was doing anything. Next

4:49

thing you know, a couple of old timers.

4:51

Seventy five year old dudes just,

4:53

you know, the guys that you would see the the pool

4:55

doing aerobics or something, they're out there playing

4:57

the meanest game of horse you've ever seen Yeah.

4:59

-- with impeccable form, dude. Windbreakers

5:01

and all, sure. It was a scheduled basketball

5:03

day. Listen to those two guys. Do you

5:05

know them? They are out there every

5:07

day. Whooping it up every day. It was awesome.

5:10

Actually, if they're not out there, I'm worried something It

5:12

was inspirational. Dude, it's awesome because

5:14

-- Yeah. -- the dedication. Like, they

5:16

were they the form was what I really got

5:18

me. But as we drove by out of a corner

5:20

by, we see a swish Yeah. And it's like, oh,

5:22

they don't mess. You can hear it. Those are the coolest kids we

5:24

can then go through the canyon. Yeah. You know

5:26

you're you're here here when I

5:28

know the two guys you're talking that's how small

5:30

this area is. Well, that's the only two people

5:32

we saw in -- Really nice. -- win breaker too. Great

5:34

win breaker. Yeah. I don't know if the swoosh was from the

5:36

the swoosh or from the wind breaker. Those two

5:38

guys are about it. that's all we got.

5:40

Well, that's the lounge a lot. You got you got proud

5:42

of that. You got one cool dude that's cruising around in

5:44

like a mid ninety Subaru Outback with a

5:46

hood stack. and and did see mister

5:48

O'Hara. Oh, hi. I

5:50

think he was headed to the pageant actually. It

5:52

was funny when you're driving along, my own

5:54

business. on your terrible

5:56

roads, by the way. The models are just,

5:58

like, they're out of control.

6:00

Yeah. And I'm, like, guys, look in the look behind us.

6:02

I'm pretty sure there's Subaru with a hood

6:04

stack, a snorkel, a

6:06

light bar, and what else is it?

6:09

He had the he had a winch, and he had all

6:11

this car. It's all that you're saying, look, you

6:13

will. Maybe an out of town or just Yeah. He you

6:15

probably think it's a plane when he's gone by because it was

6:17

loud. So, yeah, he was just and then

6:19

and then we got in the right lane from the pass. And

6:21

you could hear him passing for, like, forty five minutes.

6:24

I just wrapped out. And then

6:26

he comes by us and he's not really

6:28

moving very fast, but hood hood stack

6:30

just looking sweet. Flapped to the sky and

6:32

sweet. Oh, yeah. I I wanna I don't

6:34

mean to cut you off, but I need to point out because

6:36

I know there's people watching right now that's like

6:38

where's Britney. Alright. Be My

6:40

wife, dude. Damn it. Like, this is It's

6:43

a the bummer. This is a tough one

6:45

here, but she's subject right now. Yeah.

6:47

She's usually beside me or here's

6:49

because I like I like being out of -- Yeah. -- you

6:51

know, She was

6:53

not able to make it here at this table

6:55

today. Originally, she had

6:57

planned on being cute. e commerce. You should have seen

6:59

her smile sitting here. She's ready. She's

7:01

mic checking and then hand shows. have enough

7:03

hate online as it is, bro.

7:05

Okay. Oh, you know what? In fact, if you can insert

7:07

any clips, you should insert some clips with the garbage

7:09

can. go. Nope. No.

7:11

Keep going. What what were you saying? Keep going.

7:13

Wow. Keep going. Hi, honey.

7:16

I'm here. But look how comfortable she is

7:18

now. She looks way back.

7:19

I wanted to sit back and watch. And

7:22

then you just put this mic in my face.

7:25

I had this An iPhone in front of

7:27

me. You know, ridiculousness. Chanel West

7:29

Coast where she just over just reacts. That's

7:31

your job to make you just kinda sit back

7:33

be awesome and make us all feel dumb. Can you

7:35

just high pitched laugh for me real quick, and then we

7:37

can dob that over everything we're talking about. No. I

7:39

will not. No. Oh.

7:42

We did that one. Yeah. That one was really

7:44

good. I mean, is that a laugh track And then each

7:46

time we say something that might be funny, we'll

7:48

throw that in. They won't know it's not

7:50

you laughing. And so

7:52

you know where your seat is still available.

7:54

If at any time you need tacked in

7:56

because he would really love to go sit under that blanket.

7:58

He's trying to be freezing. He should have done

7:59

the show on that couch. I don't know we could have all done this. We

8:02

could have all done. We could still. Yep. technically,

8:04

our cameras are kinda Oh, okay.

8:06

Don't do this to him. Problem is, bro, you're so stuck

8:08

in this mentality of everything's gotta be perfect

8:10

because you're you're very your very

8:12

high high production, high quality. Everything

8:14

you do is is that's what you're known for.

8:16

Right? You do everything to the max. I

8:18

do not think that's what I'm I think it is.

8:20

And this place is Perfect.

8:22

Well, you would never know it. Honey, I love you.

8:25

I love you too. I I didn't I

8:27

didn't choose this. I was looking forward to having a

8:29

conversation with you, but I guess we can The more

8:31

you guys talk about the the words I feel, just so

8:33

we're clear. I just feel like you're right there. wig on.

8:35

Yeah. Then we could probably get off the show.

8:37

I I I'm out of words. I guess just drop

8:39

a comment below and let us know how you feel about the

8:41

scenes. Do not.

8:43

Does hands take breaks a lot in future

8:45

episodes? No. I'll I'll

8:47

just Here's the thing, though. He gets a lot

8:49

of hate, but he's the most loved guy around. He

8:52

is. Like, as soon as by the end of the day,

8:54

you're not gonna a damn about us. You

8:56

are gonna be more interested in Hansel

8:58

because he's just a level guy. It takes a

9:00

minute. I mean, you gotta get over the whole It sounds

9:02

like to the couch thing and the kind of people that

9:04

are hated. They they are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They

9:06

they no. She's she'd probably much rather be

9:08

right there. I know it. Look at us. Wow. I just

9:10

loved that. She already cut my mic off. We got the we

9:12

got the phone. No. Alright. Here's

9:14

why I'm super pumped that you're

9:16

here. Number one, I

9:18

was just doing Logan

9:20

Paul's podcast. Impulsive.

9:23

number one podcast in the world. Yeah.

9:26

And he on that show, we happen

9:28

to be talking about helicopters, and he was like,

9:30

you know, day

9:32

smarts. Yep. And I'm like, nah,

9:34

we've never met. We've never done anything. He's

9:36

like, dude, you gotta do you gotta do some. You

9:38

guys would be best friends. And before

9:40

that episode even came out, you

9:42

and I were hanging out. It was weird. Is

9:44

that weird? Well, it goes even further

9:46

than that though. So Ethan Roberts,

9:48

you know, Nitro's or something? Yeah. He's

9:50

been saying for, like, six months. He's like,

9:52

hey, Roman, I wanna get you guys together. We wanna

9:54

do something. So all these all these roads have been

9:56

kinda converging. And then we meet at

9:58

Bristol and obviously, you know, we watch

10:00

you do just the sickest burnout ever. And I'm

10:02

like, this is our guy. Like, this is this is

10:04

we should be bros. I knew that we should be

10:06

bros even before Logan Paul number one podcast

10:09

in the world -- Yeah. -- said that we should be

10:11

bros. And he he wasn't wrong. We

10:13

kicked we we hit it off. Yeah. I love law

10:15

of attraction, dude. Like, literally,

10:17

what's the odds? Not

10:19

good. Not good. Not not not good. I know

10:21

we're just chilling. And the fact that there's this whole

10:23

it's not just like we met. like Yeah. -- helicopters.

10:25

It's there's so much going

10:28

on that is very symbiotic with

10:30

the relationship here. Yeah. But it's not

10:32

a coincidence. It's very cool. Do we get

10:34

into any of that? Do we blow

10:36

some minds today? Yeah. I think I think we're blowing

10:38

minds right now. We gotta blow some minds.

10:40

Yeah. Just Thanks

10:42

for so. The minds will be blowing. I love the

10:45

relationship going on here. Sparks -- He'll

10:47

transfer to you here in a minute. -- I know the way he looks

10:49

into my eyes, bro. It's it's like

10:51

so know, Kit Moore is country artist, one of my

10:53

favorites. He's a he's a great artist.

10:55

Him and I are bros, like, we're we're

10:57

buddies. I have him pick him

10:59

up for a family event that we had to

11:01

come play a private show for us this summer.

11:03

And, you know, I'm thinking I get to hang out with kids,

11:05

be buddy buddy, buddy. hand picks up

11:07

from the airport and does the assistant thing. Right? because hand

11:09

is technically my assistant, but he's also a partner,

11:11

apparently, now he's a co host on podcast. Yeah.

11:13

He's the real Dude, to your

11:15

Kip didn't even wanna talk to me at the end of the trip. He

11:17

was just hanging out, like, bud, like, they had to seek her

11:19

handshade. Frickin stole Kip. Somebody

11:21

had to. And, like, I I don't I don't I

11:23

don't fanboy over anybody, like I don't

11:25

know if fanboy ever Kip, but he's somebody that

11:27

I admire look up to. There's very few people that I'm like,

11:29

I'd like to meet that person and hang out with them. Yeah.

11:32

everybody's got their, like, guy, they're, you know,

11:35

fans have their people. Yep. I don't really have

11:37

those people that I look up to that much just

11:39

a couple and pan stolen. It's more of

11:41

a I had to. I had to. We went to his

11:43

concert, like, two weeks ago

11:45

and saw, like, this is, like, six months after we hung out with

11:47

him over the summer. walk in, keep,

11:49

like, gives me, like, kind of, like, a half a handshake. Like,

11:51

what's up, bro? He gives hands, like, an upside down

11:53

hug. Like And I don't take hugs. Yeah. I'm not a

11:55

huger. It was not a huger. five minutes,

11:57

we're gonna be shooting a show like this. Yeah. We won't have a

11:59

show. It's up hand. It's all nineteen

12:01

cameras on that guy. So listen,

12:03

listen back to your podcast with

12:05

Logan though. You talked about and you

12:07

asked Logan if Dave was in

12:09

military and that's how he got into flying. God, it

12:11

felt so dumb after that

12:13

dude. I felt like a cliff was a

12:15

cliff. Oh, absolutely. Okay. because he was he

12:17

was he was getting pretty because you post the

12:19

cliff, I'm like, I feel so nice, man. I was

12:21

I I replayed that glass played on the

12:23

way here. Nice. It was a good thing. It was a good

12:25

thing. They had some motivation. No. I mean, here's

12:27

the thing. funny story about Logan

12:29

and these guys that, you know, we had them out last

12:31

winter to Utah because, you

12:33

know, we want to get together and do some filming and stuff,

12:35

and Jake is very action

12:37

related. And so it's Logan, but Jake is just,

12:39

like, keep me in any machine, any

12:41

environment. Let's could do some crazy stuff. So alright. Jake,

12:43

it's a birthday host too. So we have him up to a cabin

12:45

up and Northern Utah for like

12:47

this big winter fiasco for Jake's birthday.

12:49

And we picked them up at a private

12:51

airport in a bunch of helicopters. when

12:54

we get there, I'm flying my helicopter, which my current

12:56

helicopter is like a military helicopter. It's

12:58

it's it's very rugged and like it's

13:00

like clear to us. I sold

13:02

clearest in my res. So 105 Yeah. The 105

13:05

And so the other health coverage there were, like,

13:07

really nice, like, VIP, like,

13:09

a star, EC1

13:11

thirty. We had like, six

13:13

helicopters. So Logan and Jake and their whole

13:15

entourage kinda pile on these different helicopters and we

13:17

fly up to the cabin and we

13:20

get there. And logo to Jake's just like

13:22

like that. We don't we don't like helicopters.

13:24

I'm like, why? What's wrong? They're like, I don't know. It just

13:26

wasn't we weren't comfortable. We didn't feel

13:28

safe. Like, that we just don't love them that

13:30

much. And they're like they're like, but our our

13:32

guys flew with you, and they said you, like,

13:34

flew upside down. And they they felt

13:36

really I have this picture of of Jake's

13:38

main security guy, and he gets in the helicopter when

13:40

we first picked him all up and he's just pissed. It's

13:42

just not having it. Like, it's been a long night.

13:45

Everybody he's purging cats. Right?

13:47

Yeah. Sit in the back of the helicopter just like

13:49

this front bumper kiss. Just and

13:51

then I I could tell, you know, I could see the game

13:53

he was playing. So I was like, alright. Let's,

13:55

you know, play with them a little bit. So we're like ten

13:57

minutes into the flight and I just roll the helicopter.

13:59

I mean, it wasn't upside

14:01

down. Yeah. according to the FAA, but

14:03

it was a pretty good role.

14:05

And instantly, he just

14:07

lit up and for the remainder of that

14:09

hour long flight was just smiling and giving him

14:11

like a little kid. So he was

14:14

so back up a little bit. When that

14:16

happened, Jake and Logan, and then we're all filming in this

14:18

helicopter. We go like this. Jake and Logan

14:20

think they just watched everybody die in my helicopter.

14:22

Literally, like, they were they got to the cabin. They were,

14:24

like, shook up. So they're, like, having a

14:26

rough flight, not smoothen their helicopter.

14:28

They just thought we died. So they're just a little

14:30

bit, you know, leery. And they're like,

14:32

dude, like, we've seen flies. Is there any

14:34

chance, like, maybe we could fly back with you? I'm like, why do you

14:36

wanna fly back with me? You decide, like, I I

14:38

roughed your guys up. and they're like, yeah, but he said he

14:40

felt so safe. So we take

14:42

Logan, Jake, Anna Girl's other

14:44

baggage and stuff them in the back of my helicopter,

14:46

which is fairly tight for passengers.

14:48

And they apparently

14:50

just had the time of their life. It's I guess, it's the

14:52

I don't know what the experience was that was different, but

14:54

they landed there like this the gray whenever we

14:56

love helicopters. And I think

14:58

it's it's you gotta be a little bit aggressive

15:00

and scare them into liking it, rather

15:02

than the other pilots are very good pilots,

15:04

but they fly just a little too normal, I

15:06

think. And they maybe thought that they were under

15:08

skilled. I don't know I don't know what it was, but

15:10

Logan made him thankful to be alive.

15:13

Probably. That was that's where the joy was.

15:15

Yeah. They they landed where he was just happy to go

15:17

live. But they loved it. I mean, they Greg

15:19

was saying he wants to buy helicopter Logan's dad.

15:21

So it was a good experience. It went from.

15:23

They were very nervous too. They had a great

15:25

time. Dude, they've got to be one of the

15:27

greatest things ever invented. Helicopters?

15:29

Yes. I thought you were gonna say the Paul's. The

15:32

Paul brothers are right there. They're out there.

15:34

Not with helicopters though. Dude, I'm

15:36

so addicted. Like, I think they're the greatest thing.

15:38

Well, it's interesting because ever

15:40

since the Kobe thing, a lot of people are

15:42

just down on helicopters. They think that they just fall

15:44

out of the sky right now. my

15:46

whole goal is to show

15:48

people how how, you know, how safe they are, how they

15:50

function. Once you understand a helicopter actually

15:52

works, you love it and you understand it and you

15:54

respect it. because they don't just fall out in

15:56

the sky. They're extremely safe. They're safer than

15:58

airplanes. But the whole Kobe thing is gonna

16:00

take a while for people to get over. But, yes, they

16:02

are literally So for me, I

16:04

gotta do a lot of cool stuff, drive monster

16:06

trucks, drive any, you know, range of different

16:08

vehicles, go cool places, hang out cool people,

16:10

nothing compares to helicopter. It's

16:12

the greatest thing. Never gets old. It's the greatest thing. And

16:14

I have I have videos that date back, I don't

16:16

know, eight years of me saying,

16:18

mark my words. One day, I'm gonna be

16:21

a helicopter pilot. Yeah. own a helicopter.

16:23

Yep. And now I'm in it. Yeah.

16:25

I'm in it. bought a helicopter.

16:27

I'm I'm less than thirty hours into

16:29

my training. Okay. To twenty six hours. I love

16:31

it though. But you're all in and you're doing I'm

16:33

all in. think when you buy helicopter, you're all

16:35

in. Mhmm. That's the way I did it. Yeah. So

16:37

that's how I was advised to do it. That's the

16:39

only way to do it. Well, it's not the only way to do it. The

16:41

problem is the other way is you use somebody else's

16:43

helicopter, you go to a flight school, and then

16:45

you're limited on helicopter availability, and

16:47

sometimes it's the same helicopter. The way you're

16:49

doing it is the same way I did

16:51

it. it's not the way everybody can do it. Right? It

16:53

takes it takes a little bit of capital to do it. Yeah.

16:55

I didn't have a ton of ton of money when I

16:57

bought my first helicopter, but I just knew that I

16:59

had to have it. So I bought it. literally

17:01

flew to Tennessee and

17:03

met with the instructor and he was a guy

17:05

that I hired to fly home with me and I said,

17:07

hey, so basically as we get a helicopter, start

17:09

flying home, you're training me. And he's like, okay. Perfect.

17:11

We fly home. It's like a two day flight kind of stop

17:13

and hanging out. By the time we

17:15

landed, he signed me off, he's like, alright. You're to go.

17:17

He's like, go solo and I go take your test. Oh

17:20

my god. Yeah. It was it was it was got

17:22

a lot of flight time concentrated in a

17:24

very short period of time. Holy crap.

17:26

And I I'm I have a knack

17:28

for operating machines and equipment, so it came to me

17:30

a little more naturally. But, yeah, it was I was signed off in,

17:32

like, two days. That's awesome. Yeah. The only thing

17:34

that's been unnatural at the start was

17:37

the pedals were opposite for

17:39

me. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know if it's from

17:41

skid steers. I don't know what. Yeah. But

17:43

now it's fine. We'll wait till you get in a

17:45

different helicopter as opposite pedals. Right.

17:47

So Saturday or a couple days ago, I was

17:49

flying an a star and my 105

17:51

opposite pedals. So left power pedal on

17:53

the 105 right power pedal on the a star,

17:55

It is a weird weird That would screw with

17:57

me so bad as a nuke. It takes it takes

18:00

some bacon for sure. Yeah.

18:02

Dude, the 105 is so awesome. It's the

18:04

greatest helicopter that's what I front

18:06

engine fully rigid rotor system.

18:08

When I was learning how to fly, the guy that I

18:10

was teaching me how to fly, the one to fly, we flew to.

18:12

So Kennecock Copper is rio

18:15

Tinto now. It's one of the largest

18:17

open pit mines in the world in Utah. It's like one

18:19

of the seven things you can see from space or

18:21

something that's huge. he's like,

18:23

let's fly up to the copper mine. I was like, okay. Let's fly through there. It

18:25

was a really windy day. The wind was doing like this

18:27

vortex, things are there. In most

18:29

helicopters, you don't fly into turbulence. And he's

18:31

like, yeah, just fly right in there. I'm like, I don't feel comfortable doing

18:33

that. Like, are you sure he's like, listen, there's

18:35

no helicopter in the world or there's no

18:37

aircraft in the world that's safer to fly through turbos in

18:39

this helicopter. and we flew right into it and we were getting

18:41

gusted and tossed around. And the reason why it's safe is because the

18:43

rotor blades are rigid. So they

18:45

can't flap and hit the helicopter body. You don't get

18:47

mass bumping. You don't you don't get any of those issues that

18:49

you would have. Like, I would do

18:51

that in Robinson -- Right. -- or a jet ranger. So, yeah, they're

18:54

they're awesome twin engine. I feel comfortable flying my

18:56

family ten feet over the water knowing that if

18:58

I lose an engine, We're good.

19:00

I've actually lost an engine flying and no big

19:02

deal. Just keep flying. Once I remember that before.

19:04

Well, just so quick. He's never he's never

19:06

mentioned that ever. So I think my flying with Dave

19:08

is over. Losing an engine in 105

19:10

is like just is like you're just flying.

19:12

You keep on flying. We've had some close

19:15

calls. in helicopters? Yeah.

19:17

For the people that don't give a rip about

19:19

helicopters, we're probably boring them. What's the what's

19:21

some of the shadiest moments in

19:23

their helicopter? Oh, you wanna talk about them.

19:26

Something scary. You tell me. Which

19:28

one do you wanna talk about? Which

19:30

one are you legally allowed to talk

19:32

about? Well, Cheney has been in the

19:34

back seat without headset. So I can't see. All I

19:36

see is his body language. And it's it's a hold

19:38

on. Tell him to paint the picture here. It's

19:40

like midnight in North Carolina. Oh, I was

19:42

painting the other picture. You paint that one. Which one were

19:44

you painting? Morgan. Morgan.

19:47

The city of Morgan.

19:48

The left hand turn. Oh, oh, yeah.

19:50

That one that one was rough.

19:52

That one was worse than

19:54

we we had mean, as a as a helicopter pilot, especially

19:56

in mountain terrain and and and lots of

19:58

people in helicopter, you run into

20:00

situations where you are

20:03

managing power right on the limit.

20:05

Mhmm. It's right where they're okay to be, but you get

20:07

a weird gust of wind or something. Long

20:09

story short, our

20:11

buddy in North Carolina got a helicopter. He

20:13

wanted to get in it. It was a long range or a nice

20:15

helicopter, a little bit heavy, but we

20:17

threw us our

20:19

buddy of the pilot or that owned it, that

20:21

was student pilot, I think, at the time. So I

20:23

was pilot in control or pilot command,

20:25

and then a big Polynesian buddy of ours in

20:27

anyways, we go to fly we go to land at this lake, his

20:29

lake house. It's pitch black, flying over

20:31

lake and terrain that I've never flown

20:34

in. And in helicopter, you get what's

20:36

called LTE -- Yep. -- right, loss of

20:38

tail rotor, and it

20:40

happens a lot to some of these older, longer range

20:42

of bell helicopters. So we're

20:44

going we're going in for landing. Can't

20:46

really tell where the wind is. And I'm kinda

20:48

like, I'm on the controls with him, but he's

20:50

also kinda like grabbing them from me

20:52

and that's like a big no no. Right? It's like I have the

20:54

controls. Positive transfer controls is like a

20:56

must. He keeps on kind of grabbing it. I

20:58

grab it. Grab it. Next thing

21:00

you know, We're going into this hole, which is the

21:02

black l z of his

21:04

house. There's trees and lake around us. And

21:06

again, it's a really dark night. Can't see

21:08

anything. we start spinning. Helicopter

21:10

starts doing it. It loses tiltrotor authority.

21:13

And when that happens, you have,

21:15

like, a split second to react. and

21:17

he grabs, like like like the controls

21:19

so tight. And he's like,

21:21

just panicking, just complete, like, foldable and

21:23

blacking out. So I just reach over and I, like,

21:25

slap on the chest. I'm, like, hey, I got

21:27

this. And I grabbed it. And and I

21:29

fortunately was able to fly us out of it and,

21:31

like, it was, like, in the movies, dude, we flew

21:33

down, like, when you're spinning,

21:35

the only way to do not spin anymore is to

21:37

die for air speed because the the,

21:39

you know, the the wind on the airframe will basically

21:41

straighten it out like a weather frame. dive

21:43

down below these trees, like ten feet above the

21:45

lake level. Best part about this whole thing goes

21:47

as it's happening. Dave and that the our

21:49

big pollination buddy on the back seat

21:51

we start spinning and

21:54

the our Polynesian buddy, la la,

21:56

just freaking out. Just not has no idea what's going

21:58

on. He can't really hear us. He looks over and

22:00

Dave just is just casually pulling

22:02

up his boots as the helicopter

22:04

spinning, just getting ready for whatever is about

22:06

to come. Just pick up the it.

22:08

We're going in the drink. Here in here in law, I tell

22:10

the story is the greatest thing you've ever heard because he's like

22:13

telling it from his POP. He has no idea how

22:15

helicopters work or what's going on or why we're spinning

22:17

out of control. why I'm punching the other

22:19

pilot. But yeah. Yeah. That was

22:21

a that we we did a full seven

22:23

twenty. We're able to spin out of the fly out of it and and

22:25

saved it. That's that's one of of many. We've

22:27

had a few. a great piloting. What about the

22:29

freaking terrifying? Should we talk about the

22:31

the runway incident? With

22:33

the forklift or no? No.

22:35

There are some my story is off

22:38

camera. I love forklifts. Yeah. He

22:40

was flying forklifts. It was cool. Let's tell

22:42

you. We've had been

22:44

flying for a long time. And when you fly different helicopter for a long

22:46

time and in different situations with

22:50

my personality, you run into

22:52

situations, but We're

22:54

all good. No wreck, no

22:56

accidents, no incidents. We've we've recovered some for

22:58

some gnarly stuff. And now I have a Blackhawk on the

23:00

way. Dude, yeah. We got a

23:02

ton. I'm back. It's all helicopter talk to you.

23:04

Okay. We're nerdin' out on the

23:06

choppers. First fifteen minutes, guys. Give us helicopters.

23:08

Then we'll get into freaking

23:10

black hot. Yeah. come on, Blackhawk. I

23:12

mean, the thing about Blackhawk is it's Blackhawk,

23:15

first of all. Right? Yeah. It's

23:17

one of those things where you sit so this

23:19

is something that I kinda like my whole life is based

23:21

around this mantra of

23:23

if somebody thinks it's crazy

23:25

and like completely undueable or doesn't

23:27

make sense to do it or why, you

23:30

know, you're not in the military. You thought it was in the

23:32

military. Yeah. Was it? I just do

23:34

things that happen to do some of the stuff that those

23:36

guys do. That's what I love to do. I wanna do

23:38

really, really hard things. I actually have a list of

23:40

licenses that I wanna get, like, I wanna get captain's

23:42

license of, like, big vessels on

23:44

the ocean. I wanna have these licenses. And I have a bunch

23:46

right now in my commercial, you know, CDL

23:48

license helicopter, they're playing those different things.

23:50

So I'm stacking up those licenses, but

23:53

Black Hawk is like the culmination of all these different

23:55

things because, a, there

23:57

there's so the government sells Black Hawk's

23:59

and

23:59

companies come in and buy them. private companies. They fight fires with

24:02

them. Do different things with them. There's

24:04

just

24:04

not many people out there that are

24:06

guys like me that are buying a Black Hawk and not

24:08

going to put it to work. I'm

24:10

not gonna work it. It's not that that's not the goal. Our goal is to do

24:12

our search and rescue missions and some of the stuff that

24:14

we do and just fly my friends and the

24:17

family around it and and have a

24:19

blackhawk. because everyone needs a black hawk to fly your family

24:21

in front of us. Because there's nothing

24:23

else on the planet that you

24:25

can use to travel around with friends and

24:27

family, you know? It's coolest way to do

24:29

it. Yeah. How many people can get on my hot?

24:32

Fifteen. Seventy. Fifty. We

24:34

will pay as many as you want it

24:36

very much. Yeah. It's it's got

24:38

fifteen seats. it's it can pick

24:40

up nine thousand pounds from the

24:42

hook. So it's

24:42

like a full truck and a half. It's

24:44

got some serious capability and it's fast

24:47

and it's safe. What's your favorite feature? My favorite

24:49

feature of the Blackhawk? Fuelling it

24:51

up. Yeah. Fuelling it up. Burning

24:53

triple what I currently What is now an

24:55

hour? What is under an hour? fifty gallons

24:57

hour. Fun. A hundred and fifty gallons

24:59

hour. Fun. Yeah. Mine's twenty three an

25:01

hour. Yeah. Yeah. So it's Mine's

25:03

the Honda Civic at Helloton. It is

25:05

the best best features by far your

25:07

fortunate sun switch. I do have a switch that's

25:10

it looks like an aircraft switch and

25:12

it says fortunate sun and it has a on or

25:14

off toggle. And so you turn that out, you

25:17

don't CCR. Yeah. It plays

25:19

the the ultimate helicopter song. It

25:21

just plays it. It plays the sunsets for

25:23

everybody. Yeah. On repeat?

25:26

just over or no? Yeah. There's no reason for anything else.

25:28

I don't think it's like you could get to play.

25:30

You're always going to Vietnam since you Always.

25:33

Yeah. Always. helicopters are cool, man. Blackhawk,

25:35

really excited for it. Pick it up here in the

25:37

next two weeks. Two or three weeks. And I

25:39

originally bought it because I wanted a Blackhawk, but when I

25:41

bought it, I also thought, okay. wanna

25:43

be able to create content with this. I was a little nervous because

25:45

anytime we create content that is

25:48

way out there, way over the top, it

25:50

becomes unrelated. You know this? Yep.

25:52

And I told I was like, I'm gonna do it

25:54

anyways because this is something I'm naturally doing. What

25:57

I told our viewers when we kind of

25:59

went back to to

25:59

YouTube full time was buckle up

26:01

because we we're just gonna do a

26:04

little bit of everything. Like, we have such a

26:06

diverse range of content. And the reason for that is because

26:08

we're just gonna show you things that

26:10

I, in particular, am excited about. And I

26:12

get excited about all sorts of different stuff and

26:15

Blackhawk happens to be one of them. So we we started

26:17

creating the video series on it and put it out

26:19

there kinda like click

26:21

publish and and hope for not a

26:23

bunch of hate and people saying, oh, you you you've

26:25

lost touch reality. You have Blackhawk. People

26:28

like, gone insane over that campaign

26:30

really. That's awesome. And so they're not

26:32

feeling like I'm saying, oh, look at my black clock. I'm

26:34

so cool. They're they're like, this is

26:36

amazing. We have because I'm telling the whole

26:38

story of how I got it. What we have

26:40

to do to be able to legally fly it? Like, you

26:42

don't just buy a Blackhawk and fly

26:44

it is a paperwork. You've done paperwork,

26:46

FAA paperwork. This is it times a

26:48

thousand. It is so brutal to

26:50

a god. it's

26:52

it's been fun to learn and it's been fun to show people and people are

26:54

just eating it up. So it's down

26:56

in Lexington, Kentucky right now, as you know,

26:59

thoroughbred aviation. it'll be done. It was

27:01

supposed to be done this week. I was supposed to come --

27:03

Yep. -- record with you and fly at home. And now

27:05

it's gonna be like another week or so. So

27:07

I think next week, ten days will be -- I'll have

27:09

to make another stop. -- grabbing it and then flying it.

27:11

Yeah. It's a Yeah. Here you go. If you need your

27:13

podcast, then you'll moved. Yeah. We could pull

27:15

this hook up into and put

27:17

everybody's biggest concern as far as, like, my

27:19

mentors, my helicopter mentors. They

27:21

know how I fly. I fly very low and aggressive

27:23

and, you know, it's safe, but it's low

27:25

and aggressive. but you can't really

27:27

do that as much in a Blackhawk without, like,

27:29

full blown over, like, blowing

27:31

people's roofs off and stuff. So I gotta be

27:33

I gotta learn just how violent

27:35

it is. It's gonna be just this side of that line. You

27:37

can't just land at somebody's house sometimes. No. I will.

27:40

But it's still one hundred percent He's going to

27:42

somebody's, though. Yeah. Yeah.

27:44

Robert, it's it there's gonna be a learning curve of of

27:46

how much of a shit storm I start every time I

27:48

land somewhere, but, I mean, that's a that's not a

27:50

bad problem there. Right? Sorry about your shingles.

27:53

Yeah. Sorry. Exactly. And your

27:55

permanent fixtures. Bad weather. Black

27:57

Hawk's are wild, man. They create a

27:59

ridiculous amount of downwash. Yeah. I've

28:01

seen tons of videos like literally light

28:03

poles come down when they fly by. And the the

28:05

heavier they are, the more weight you have in there, the more

28:07

that rotor washes is kicking. So they it's

28:10

gonna be a it's gonna be a process. I'm gonna

28:12

be very safe about the way I learned how to fly

28:14

the black pockets. And

28:17

so we're clear. I'm gonna be very You

28:19

had to say that. fly with some of the best pilots in the world. So

28:21

I'm I'm Arabatic certified by Chuck Aaron,

28:23

the old Red Bull pilots, so I was signed

28:25

off. He said, yeah. I you can

28:27

fly upside down, do barrel rolls loops, and the 105

28:30

So that's my goal. Like I said, become as

28:32

proficient as possible. So I skip right

28:34

past the fly schools and I go to

28:36

the Arabatic let's, I go to the guys that are

28:38

doing the gnarly, like, mountain long

28:40

lines and stuff like that because that's where

28:42

you get the best experience. The best For

28:44

sure. How can't imagine. Britney, how do

28:46

you feel about that? You're you're learning how to fly.

28:48

Right? No. Are you

28:50

not? She she's going

28:52

to. Oh, snuff like that anymore. Oh, you okay. He's a fully kicked

28:54

out of the show. This is a fully kicked out

28:56

of the show. Okay. My voice is here, but

28:58

there's no camera. This is Try

29:00

some sign language or We

29:02

can just No. I when I flew with him,

29:04

like, a not with him, but with

29:06

the instructor, I was like, there's no way I can

29:09

learn this. That's true.

29:10

You guys The instructors I think

29:12

gonna make me Well, you know when you fly with somebody you

29:14

pick up on things naturally. Yeah. Like, that's

29:16

probably what's gonna happen and then she'll

29:18

get comfortable and First of all, you gotta be confident in helicopter. Yeah.

29:21

Like, if you're worried and stressed, that's a problem.

29:23

You gotta be comfortable with it's what it does

29:25

and how we're works. Yeah. And then move into it.

29:27

How's is Roman? Does he make you feel

29:29

comfortable though? No. He's

29:30

never phoned me yet.

29:31

Oh, yeah. Not even

29:34

once you You're only solo. Yeah. Have you

29:36

been signed off to solo? Not yet. I think

29:38

it's coming real soon. Yeah. A few hours.

29:40

You feel comfortable hovering? obviously a difficult difficult

29:42

part of flying. I feel like I can I can fly no

29:44

problem. Good. Yeah. What did you

29:46

buy?

29:46

r sixty

29:47

six. Okay. Yeah. It's

29:50

great helicopter learning. I had to get the

29:52

turbine. Everyone's like, just get the forty four. I was like,

29:54

no. I would have told you absolutely not.

29:56

No. because you're never gonna flag a

29:58

piston helicopter. That's not what you want.

29:59

That's not the route you're going. So why learn is

30:02

something that you're gonna immediately dump. The

30:04

only thing that flying a piston helicopter would be good

30:06

for it to help you kinda learn power

30:08

management, to learn

30:08

how to fly a helicopter with a very low

30:10

power -- Yeah. -- makes you a little bit better pilot,

30:13

but sounds like the Rob, the sixty six has a ton of power for a

30:15

turbine anyways. You're gonna be learning how to manage it respect

30:17

this. Yeah. And it has the extra c, it has the cargo.

30:19

But it was just perfect for my family. It's

30:22

perfect. Yeah. Alright. Next person says helicopter gets

30:24

fined. We're moving on. Perfect. No more

30:26

helicopters. We're kind of fine. We're

30:28

coming. Let's jump into some

30:31

How much of you

30:32

guys talked about how this whole thing started for

30:34

you guys? You guys ever get into like

30:37

that deep what

30:39

were you doing before TV?

30:41

What were you doing before, you

30:43

know know, we have? We wrote a

30:45

book about it. with Discovery Channel.

30:48

Nobody reads, dude. No. I wanna hear it. True. We did

30:50

an audiobook with our sexy voice since we

30:52

recorded it. You guys did the voice? Yeah. That was

30:54

actually kind of fun. That's what what's the

30:56

book called? It was so it it wasn't a book that we

30:58

actually Here

31:00

we go. Here we go. Alright. It was just

31:03

magazine. Discovery. Discovery wanna write a book. They

31:05

wanted us to write he was a ghost writer. So wasn't we

31:07

sat down and put together the thoughts. We met

31:09

with a ghost writer a handful of times, told

31:11

him our story, and he put it into a book. He did

31:13

a great job, but it wasn't when

31:15

you read it, it's like and you know us, it's like there's a

31:17

difference there. Got it. Disconnect. But anyways So don't don't

31:19

don't don't don't don't it's all because the brothers and

31:22

the worst part is yeah. They called the truck and

31:24

awesome guy. to trucks in life, which is

31:26

just awful. I hated that part of it.

31:28

Mhmm. But I have this big I have

31:30

this big thing

31:30

with being stuck in like

31:32

niche. I don't I don't I don't like being

31:35

cornered in in any sort of world, which is

31:37

what Diesel Brothers did. Mhmm. So I'm fast

31:39

forwarding to kinda where where we were. But if

31:41

you go back, Long

31:42

story short,

31:44

where'd

31:44

you even

31:46

start? You start with the prank?

31:49

No. Now you start with

31:52

So Diesel Dave and I are kind of ying

31:54

and ying. He is he is the most

31:56

carefree, happy, go lucky dude

31:58

that you'll ever meet and you

32:00

know, I'll be walking through the airport and I'll I'll

32:02

run into a stranger and they'll be like, hey, we met

32:05

your friend a diesel day here at the

32:07

airport a few months ago and just

32:09

Will you tell him thanks for blessing our baby last week? Like

32:12

Wow. No. That's not a joke. That's not an

32:14

exaggeration. Like, this man will meet

32:16

a stranger, and next thing you know, like, he is

32:18

these that family reunions. People

32:20

love him, gravitate towards him, and he takes

32:22

the time to sit and chat

32:25

and with people, so he does that really well. So he's a

32:27

natural, very, very lovable, likable

32:29

guy. I, on the other hand, am

32:31

always going, and I don't like to get

32:33

stopped. So if I have if

32:35

I have like a train of thought or if I have a task or an activity and somebody

32:37

stops me, I can do the hello. How are

32:39

you? Thank you. Take a picture. Move

32:42

I don't do small talk. Mhmm. I'm not good as small

32:44

talk. He is literally small talk

32:46

in human form. So it's it's

32:49

But it's great. So I'll do another show. It's

32:51

good, small. He's so good at it. Or worse

32:53

flying on a flight one time. There's a

32:55

short flight. Like, it was, like, literally a thirty minute flight.

32:57

Dave gets put in a seat behind me. I'm in front. I hear this

33:00

like, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm not behind me like

33:02

this conversation. I'm like, who is chatting

33:04

away? Look back. This

33:06

fifty five year old woman is crying on his shoulder

33:09

sobbing, talking about her divorce. And

33:11

Dave's just like, oh, yeah. That's gonna be alright.

33:13

Like, just not really like, she doesn't

33:15

give great advice. He's just there.

33:17

Oh, I'm a good listener. He's a great listener. Like,

33:19

she wasn't even getting a divorce until that flight.

33:21

Yeah. Yeah. He's not trying to solve the

33:23

problem. He just wants to hear you out. That usually

33:25

solves the problem. he doesn't talk much. Like,

33:27

on the podcast, you're gonna see, like,

33:29

you don't ask me a question. When we first started doing

33:31

podcast, it was like, I'd give the pause

33:34

and, like, the weight, discussion. Right? You have

33:36

missionary chat back and forth. That's the world we come

33:38

from. And I'd wait. And

33:40

and he'd be like, And

33:43

there'd be, like, these awkward silence. Like, the first

33:45

episode we ever did with Andy Fruzzella, we

33:47

run his podcast. You should listen to it. It's hilarious

33:49

because it's me telling our story. And I'm I'm

33:51

talking too much. Give me a moment.

33:53

And then to radio silence. And then

33:55

I'd come back in and pick it up or Dave would, like, jump in

33:57

and be, like, I'm sorry. What were we talking about? Like,

33:59

just be, like, out there, but he is the Can't say that. I'm a

34:01

good listener. He's a great listener. He's a great listener.

34:04

But at the same time, he's in his own

34:06

little world sometimes when it comes

34:08

to you know, conversations

34:10

like this, but the reason why I

34:12

bring that up is because he's always

34:14

there, always available, and people just

34:16

gravitate towards him. I'm different. So he

34:19

what? We met at church. k?

34:22

This so in the the the Mormon

34:24

religion, we don't call it Mormon anymore. It's church

34:26

Jesus Christ. There's the singles

34:28

warts. Right? A singles warts is

34:30

dedicated to eighteen to

34:32

thirty forever. As old

34:33

as it takes. Yeah. As old as

34:35

it takes to thirty five year olds single

34:37

young adults and now I'll go to this church

34:39

together and, you know, the goal is to meet your wife. I

34:41

met my wife there. But before I met my

34:44

wife the year before, I met

34:46

this guy. and we hit us off,

34:48

became buddies because we were both there looking for chicks, found each other,

34:50

and and became bros. And

34:52

so from that moment on,

34:56

we, you know, always had this connection. Just good

34:59

buddies. He went the summer sales route

35:01

for a while and went out and tried to sell

35:03

had that go David. What'd

35:05

you say? Super I made a lot of friends. Did

35:08

you make any money? No. I did security

35:10

systems. But I

35:13

felt like, two, maybe three. He would spend

35:15

the entire day. He'd knock on some of

35:17

his door. Obviously, they wouldn't want

35:19

the security system he was totally cool with

35:21

that, and then he would just spend the rest out with them. Yeah. So not necessarily a

35:24

great growing long. How does that

35:26

even happen? Once

35:28

you know Dave That's a you just know. That's a special being. It's

35:30

hot outside knocking doors with them fun. So if

35:32

someone invites you into the AC, you take

35:36

that opportunity. Yeah. And then you're

35:38

swimming and Yeah. Swim and then you're he

35:40

can't say no. He's not good at saying no. He's

35:42

good at listening. So did you serve a mission?

35:44

I did. Sergeant Portugal. Portugal.

35:46

Mhmm. Dang, your pride, dope

35:47

missionary. I feel like I was pretty

35:50

fun missionary. Yeah. Thanks. Fun is the word

35:52

he used. Oh, is that fun?

35:54

No. Fun. He's always been a fun

35:56

guy. He's one of everything that he does. Not like

35:58

Yeah. Yeah. So that's one cool thing is

36:00

we both speak Portuguese. I served

36:02

in Brazil and Bolivia. So we we

36:05

had that connection, obviously. We

36:07

went back to my mission right before I

36:09

got married down to Bolivia in Brazil and, like, ran

36:11

amok through the rain forest in

36:13

the jungle. Got a rental car stuck in the forest. Yeah.

36:15

And that was, like, that was explained. A year or two

36:17

after we met. So, obviously, again, going

36:19

back to story. were bros

36:22

hanging out. I see him kind of out just

36:24

kind of running

36:25

marathons on the Great Wall of China. That's one

36:27

thing that he just

36:28

just disappeared and did. and he's doing just cool

36:30

stuff, but there's no real, like, direction.

36:32

And the the sales thing wasn't working

36:35

out. And he was like, I would just work

36:37

to make enough money to travel. Right.

36:39

See the world. That's where my goal all grown up.

36:41

Just a hippie. They do marathons on the Great

36:43

Wall of China? Yeah. And I was like, if

36:45

I run marathon, do the finest one because it's gonna be won and done

36:47

probably. That's awesome. How far do you go? The

36:50

full twenty six point two miles or whatever it

36:52

is. Well, you go. Lee, I think you

36:54

run about four or five miles of

36:56

it actually on the wall, and the rest is through

36:58

surrounding cities. China is really cool,

37:00

actually. Yeah. That's an epic. If you're gonna run one

37:02

do it. Is that your last one? Yeah. Well, you run up

37:04

the wall. I mean, there's a lot of picture opportunity, so you

37:06

don't really run the whole thing. You run the top and then the whole

37:08

group gets together. You do some selfies on the wall. ride

37:11

the the sled slide down? No.

37:13

The the track. I don't think I even I

37:15

even called. AlpineSlide deal. Yeah. Yeah. They have

37:18

that, the gray wall. Yeah. Looks like

37:20

I'm going back. We we have to be

37:22

careful with how far we let him go.

37:24

He took his passport.

37:26

That's that's the thing. He was he was just

37:28

living the life. everywhere went like,

37:30

he had, like, nine different nicknames depending on

37:32

what social circle you were running in.

37:34

He was twink twink master flag. bank

37:36

-- Yeah. -- twink. You know, everybody like, there's still

37:38

people that we run into that are just, like,

37:40

oh, twink. Like, it's so good to see. It's been, like, ten,

37:42

fifteen years since everybody called them twink.

37:45

But so he was, like, weeks

37:47

away from taking this job selling mobile

37:49

homes down in Arkansas. Yeah. And

37:51

he was gonna go be at mobile home salesman now.

37:53

because that was so good. security cell. Does that

37:55

sound like you try something? Yeah. You have a solid

37:58

record. Meanwhile, I'm back at

38:00

home just grind and trying to

38:02

figure out any sort of business that's gonna work. I don't come from money. I come

38:04

from probably lower middle class, like

38:06

my mom made my clothes growing up.

38:08

And so My dad died when I was

38:10

twenty one right after I got on premise

38:12

and really all I was left with

38:14

was, you know, mom to kind of take

38:16

care of. and

38:16

and no. I had two

38:18

credits of

38:18

college education and I dropped out. I just

38:20

couldn't do it. Wasn't working for me. So

38:23

when were construction for my uncle for a little while,

38:25

kinda learned that, and then two thousand

38:28

eight hit, and everything kinda fell apart as far

38:30

as the

38:32

construction world. So I was like, I gotta figure out a way to make money.

38:34

Luckily, I wasn't married yet. I

38:36

met my first soul mate -- Yeah. -- diesel bay. And

38:38

a year later, I was gonna meet

38:40

my wife. So I started doing, you know, tractor work just

38:42

kinda like rock walls, excavating,

38:44

very small, and doing whatever we

38:46

could to stay afloat in two thousand eight, which

38:48

was was

38:50

tricky for anything construction related, but we were doing it. Driverway tear outs. Yeah. Tarin out

38:53

driver was literally anything, you know, one day,

38:55

spare line tear outs. So it it it got really

38:57

moving, and I was like, hey, Dave,

39:00

like, you should settle down a little and with and the and you

39:02

and I will have this little company. So we

39:04

start growing the company, start building it. We're, you

39:06

know, doing pretty well. Jobs start getting bigger

39:10

and bigger. which progressively happens in the dirt

39:12

world. Excavation companies, they're funny. It's

39:13

it's something that's been fascinating to me because

39:16

I watch people

39:18

grow them all the time and they they end up growing too

39:20

fast and they just kinda tumble over

39:22

because it's like the opportunities they're

39:25

much opportunity out there. So I knew that we couldn't do

39:27

that because fortunately, we couldn't because we couldn't get

39:29

any loans back in two thousand eight. There was no SBA

39:31

loans. There was nothing. So got

39:34

very creative with the financing that we

39:36

could get, basically bought some

39:38

cars at the auction and borrowed way too much money on them,

39:40

and that was my working capital. got super creative.

39:42

So we start doing these jobs. Anyways, if you take on

39:44

a job, it's probably a biggest job job, yes, turn

39:46

out a whole foundation of a house, and we had to rent

39:48

a machine for it, rented

39:50

the machine,

39:51

the It was,

39:52

what, five hundred bucks a day or something like that. And we

39:54

were gonna turn a good profit on the job. It was, like, three

39:56

or four grand for two or three days worth of work. good

39:58

money for us. So we're cranking it out and

39:59

we don't have a demolition hammer on the tractor. We

40:02

just have the boom of the tractor. We're just kind of

40:04

swinging and hitting it and swinging

40:06

and hitting and it's working. And we get down to, like, the last ten feet of a

40:08

wall. And, you know, we're a little

40:10

bit confident at this point, maybe a

40:12

little

40:12

overconfident. And

40:15

I start swinging and I'm hitting like a really thick

40:17

section of the wall. Swinging boom boom boom

40:19

hit and then next thing you know, I see the arm

40:21

of the tractor kinda like boomed out like that like

40:23

bent funny and I'm like, oh shit. Like,

40:25

this is a hundred

40:26

fifty thousand dollar excavator that we're renting.

40:28

I didn't get the insurance. I just bent

40:31

the boot. No. And So

40:33

that was it. That was basically the kind of the

40:35

the the nail on the coffin, the excavation

40:37

business because the the rental

40:39

company came in took everything that I had. Oh my god. Well, we

40:41

tried to fix it. We tried to fix it the

40:43

other way. We did. And we it looked straight, and then

40:46

we've sent to the rental

40:48

place. And I was like, sweet. We got away with that one,

40:50

Scott Free. We we No. It was even worse than

40:52

that because we we bent it back the other way.

40:54

Mhmm. Still a huge bold in the beam. And then we

40:56

found this like,

40:57

shady dude with, like, a welding yard out by the airport, like,

40:59

hidden in the swamp. He said, I have fix it. Yeah.

41:01

That's fine. So we take it to him. And we're like, you sure

41:03

you got this as a gap.

41:06

five hundred bucks I got this. Like, okay. Cool. So

41:08

he just welds a giant steel plate

41:10

on it and then paints

41:12

it.

41:13

And it's like, the

41:15

most obvious. Yeah. Well, it's it's like it's

41:17

obvious, but it also kind of isn't. So we're

41:19

like, yeah. We feel good about this. It's fine.

41:21

Maybe no. They didn't notice. and so we're

41:23

pretty confident the fix is gonna be good and we're gonna get away Scott free. No. They called

41:25

me like two or three days later and they're like,

41:27

hey, we gotta might

41:30

have been laughing another time. Yeah. It was it

41:32

was it was rough. So that that basically stopped

41:34

the excavation business altogether. which

41:37

meant that there were no work for him because I was

41:39

traveling again. Right around the same time, I was meeting my wife,

41:41

so I was figuring out how to get married.

41:43

So he takes off, starts traveling. I

41:45

get married. I've got, like, five hundred bucks to my

41:47

name, which it's funny looking back

41:50

then. Five hundred to a thousand dollars was

41:52

like, was a lot of money. Like, you're doing alright.

41:54

Like, I remember having a thousand bucks. I don't

41:56

remember that. Yeah. That was like, I'm

41:58

okay. I'm ahead. Yeah. I'm not doing

42:00

okay. Like, I've got a thousand bucks. It used to

42:02

be like, three to five hundred bucks

42:04

at a time is worse. Absolutely. Living was. Yeah. So I get married, and then

42:06

I still two thousand ten.

42:10

I mean, my wife and no nine at the same church I met him

42:12

at. We get married and I gotta figure out what I wanna do for

42:14

living. So I I kinda start a

42:16

little truck dealership with no money. again,

42:20

like I I don't I can't emphasize

42:22

how difficult it was to get money back

42:24

then. If you don't have family money,

42:27

no

42:27

banks are giving out money because they're just coming off the

42:29

back of the recession. So I'm just getting super

42:31

creative with these weird loans

42:33

that the later called me later years in my life about these

42:35

loans. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah. That's I I hired a

42:38

company to basically do it for me. What they were

42:40

doing, I guess, was totally illegal. I

42:42

didn't know. I was just using their service. You're

42:44

just taking the money. Yeah. I was just getting the

42:46

money and and but then I ended up with, like, nine

42:48

car loans. of how you We

42:50

still get calls and, like, hey, did you have this

42:52

044F2 fifty

42:54

that was It's valued at, like, a hundred

42:56

grand or, like, never was it ever

42:58

worth on. But Yeah. The business model They

43:00

were laundering they they would know you you

43:03

go buy a car the auction, BMW is

43:05

a good example. I bought a BMW that was booked for twenty five grand. I

43:07

only paid like fourteen grand for it. I borrowed

43:09

the twenty five. I was

43:10

able to, you know, take

43:12

ten grand in working capital and get and go to work with it. But then I had to figure out what to

43:15

do with the car. So

43:15

I was like, the the guys that, you know, showed me

43:17

this business model, they're like, oh,

43:20

you'll lease cars out. We have a leasing

43:22

company. They made it seem like it was

43:24

not shady, like it was. It's

43:26

just the business. Yeah. So

43:28

so I lease all these cars

43:30

out. This literally six cars on my credit that I'm leasing out to

43:32

people. One person

43:34

pays me.

43:34

Like, I'm repoing cars.

43:36

I'm chasing people down.

43:40

I'm having, like, it it it was, dude, it was rough.

43:42

I'm a repo guy. I don't have

43:44

any money to repo the cars. I don't have money to

43:46

drive to go repo my own car. I'm just, like,

43:49

This is this sucks. What a mess. But I had that a little

43:51

bit of working capital, but I so I started buying and

43:53

selling trucks. Mhmm. And then buying and

43:56

selling trucks started turning buying and selling some of heavy

43:58

equipment that we were familiar with, and then

44:00

that started working. So two thousand ten,

44:02

two thousand twelve, we kinda ran that

44:04

business and then it got crank it so

44:06

good that I called Dave back after his, well, I was out I was

44:09

out praying in China again. You sent me a text message.

44:11

It's just a picture of a tow truck.

44:13

This coolest tow truck he went

44:15

and bought at the auction. He's like, and he's

44:17

come around this. So I'm like, alright. I'm out

44:19

of money. So I fly back home. And

44:21

I'm driving his tow truck. We're repoing stuff.

44:23

And I'm like, This is the coolest job ever. He

44:25

went from doing construction to now we're

44:28

just rescuing vehicles in the middle of the night. So you

44:30

hired the nicest guy

44:32

you knew do you be a repo guy? Yeah. I didn't last as the repo guy very long. Okay.

44:34

I was gonna say Wait. Wait. Repoed one day. run.

44:36

Then I give it back to the family that needed. I was

44:38

gonna say, I was like, yeah. I can't take your

44:40

call now. They didn't they didn't do

44:42

all of that. But it was a

44:44

that was where I kinda started to pick up

44:46

a little bit of momentum. And then so

44:49

though at

44:50

the same time, I wanna go back a little bit because this will help you understand where my branding

44:52

brand came from. In two thousand nine,

44:54

well, ever since the high school,

44:56

I worked with this guy named Rich I

44:58

Rich owns a company called Rockwell Watches. Rockwell Watches is

45:01

it's a watch company, but really it's looks like

45:03

a it's a super cross team.

45:05

It's a it's a different

45:08

action sports athletes that they sponsors. It's like

45:10

a Red Bull but in the watch world. They

45:12

hired me or I went to work with

45:14

him from my two thousand eight two thousand

45:16

ten kind of selling marketing deals, just totally informally, just like

45:18

a as a bro deal. And I went in and

45:21

I killed it. I sold, like, half

45:23

a million dollars worth of marketing deals, which was

45:25

the biggest deal they ever sold. And I had

45:27

no experience, no background. I just knew

45:30

a

45:30

couple of Well, your best friends were salesman of the year. you know,

45:32

it's not a big of a year. It's

45:34

his new name. That's what

45:37

we're sticking with here. Yeah.

45:39

And then we'll know. Yeah. Yeah. He literally

45:41

cannot sell anything, but it it is

45:44

he'll give you whatever you want, but it is

45:46

not for sale. It was for sale. It was for sale. And

45:48

now it's not even just happening. It was donated

45:50

to the cause. So anyways, I learned I learned some

45:52

marketing and branding

45:54

stuff there. two thousand twelve, and

45:56

this is this is where kind of the social

45:58

media story

45:58

starts and all of our, you know,

46:00

media business in general. we're doing

46:03

well selling trucks,

46:03

buying some more and more, and finally get to the point where we're, like, making

46:05

a little bit of money. I buy a truck in California. He

46:07

flies out to pick it up and it's like a modified

46:09

diesel truck, kind of a

46:12

a cool you know, truck at that time. And he's driving home. He

46:14

bought a boat at the same time. Yeah. Get a

46:16

boat dipole in the boat home. And at the

46:18

time, he is sleeping on the in a

46:20

hammock in

46:22

the shop. like, that's full blown as well. Of course, he says, he Sometimes I sleep out

46:24

on a flatbed trailer if it's a nice night. Like, I'm

46:26

starting to get some awesome pictures of

46:28

him just passed. There's a garden hose

46:30

in the shop next to us. I shower with that. It was good.

46:32

Nice. Almost life I had going on. It was almost It

46:34

wasn't like a hay once in a while. He

46:36

crashes on like, that was where he lived. And so finally, I

46:38

was like, okay. Well, there's a couple things going on

46:40

here, my friend. And he was growing he's

46:42

the right when he started growing

46:44

a beard. and I was, like, clean-cut. I just got married. I'm, like, dude, you gotta shave

46:46

the face. You're falling apart. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta get married.

46:48

And I'm I'm being, like, the older brother, like, stop it.

46:50

Like, you gotta you gotta, like, get your shit together

46:52

and meet,

46:54

you know, get cleaned up and meet

46:56

a nice girl and he's not listening. And so

46:58

he starts making these videos and he's got

47:00

bed heavy. He looks like

47:03

He looks like a he looks like a long story

47:05

short version of this. And he posted he sent me

47:07

his video driving, his truck home from California.

47:09

And he's like, said something goofy. I don't know what it

47:11

was. And I was like, oh, it's a funny video. I should put

47:13

that on Facebook, you know, because everybody's using

47:16

Facebook in two

47:18

thousand twelve. I put it on there and it's mostly just for,

47:20

like, friends and family. Yeah. I wake up and there's,

47:22

like, a hundred thousand views on them. Like, what's

47:24

happening? Why do people

47:26

what I'm not friends, but a hundred

47:28

thousand people. Like, this doesn't make any sense. What is what is going on? And

47:30

I quickly realized, like, oh, man,

47:34

I got stuff that's going viral. So David make it in the video. I'd put it out

47:36

there. They'd go viral. So it's like, okay. We need to

47:38

create a page. And not just

47:40

my personal page. So we created a page called diesel

47:42

trucks for sale. it was the

47:44

page for our our dealership to buy and sell trucks.

47:46

And we had this goofy mascot who would make funny

47:48

videos at once because I'm a great salesman, so I'm

47:50

on the trucks for sale page. Yeah. And

47:53

you remember late two thousand twelve, I don't even remember this or not, but the

47:56

floodgates of Facebook just opened and they

47:58

didn't it was before the algorithm came in and

48:00

started nitpicking things. It was basically they

48:02

it just wanted anything to go viral. So anything

48:04

you put out there if it was good content, it's

48:06

how I think social media should be. It's it's

48:09

people who wanted to see it, saw it, and

48:11

they engaged with it, and they shared it. And and so

48:13

we had these pages that blew up

48:15

really quick. Millions of followers

48:17

from October two thousand twelve,

48:19

to the end of that year. So over

48:21

this bound by twelve months, we grew a couple

48:23

of Facebook pages to millions. I'm

48:26

talking, like, big big

48:27

pages, and we were still just this small truck dealership. So we

48:29

didn't have enough product to sell these guys. We only had,

48:31

like, four or five trucks at

48:34

a time. So we took a we took a little

48:36

sabbatical during all this,

48:38

you know, the hype and everything's going on just

48:40

kinda like clear heads and we we

48:42

bottom all

48:44

school bus. and we drove it from Salt Lake City to Costa

48:46

Rica. And that's it's

48:48

like a sixty five hundred mile journey, and

48:50

we loaded ten dudes

48:52

in there. and took

48:54

out all the seats and hung hammocks and seats

48:56

and we're just like, or and couches and we're just

48:58

like, alright, let's go. So

49:00

we drove biggest

49:02

mistake I ever made was not registering that school bus. I I

49:04

was a dealership. He's alright. Just so clear

49:06

he still doesn't register anything up in

49:09

Lindelez. Nothing he owns is right, just not

49:12

the cheapest. It's the first one for a long

49:14

time. The dealership did that for you. Yeah.

49:16

So I put a temp tag

49:18

on it. Driving a school bus in New temp huge

49:20

apparently. We didn't know that until we got to the border

49:22

and we got jammed up. We're ready to get to

49:24

Costa Rica. Right?

49:26

We wanna make it on this trip.

49:28

So I spent three days at the border

49:30

fighting with the Mexican customs. Three

49:32

days. Yeah. Yeah. Three days camp. Just sleeping in

49:34

the sand

49:36

or sleep in the boss dude, And

49:38

this was it you to put

49:40

the the gun in there? You tried

49:42

to break yeah. So Dave brings a gun.

49:46

Dave brings a gun in the on the bus trip, which is fine, but you don't wanna take a

49:48

gun to me. As a friend told me to bring it. So

49:50

so we get to the

49:54

border And and it's finally we're getting ready to cross

49:56

after John's paperwork. Somebody takes

49:58

the pistol and stashes it

49:59

up in the ceiling of

50:02

the bus. and we're, like, going

50:04

through the the x-ray. The well,

50:05

we weren't going through the x-ray. We were just going through

50:07

customs. And then they're, like, oh, no. You're a big vehicle. You gotta go

50:09

to the x-ray. So

50:12

we're like, oh, shit. Look, we can't go to the x-ray because there'll be a

50:14

gun in here. We'll go to jail. If you take a gun in Mexico,

50:16

you're in jail for life. There's there's

50:19

Really? Oh, yeah. There's there's there's Americans. There's a

50:21

marine there who's still in prison because there

50:23

was like shotgun shells in his in his

50:25

gear bag. It is rough. Gun laws in

50:28

Mexico are no joke. So we knew that this

50:30

was gonna be like a bad time.

50:32

So they

50:32

put a guard to

50:34

come on our bus and search it. And

50:36

somebody just stashed the pistol up in the panel of the bus and

50:38

tried to pull the screws in. It's like on the

50:40

movies. They couldn't get the last screw in before

50:42

the guard comes in and he's doing the

50:45

slow, like, walk around the bus. And then there's, like,

50:47

there's this dangling piece of room. Yeah. So

50:49

I remember it was you or somebody. Somebody

50:51

took a hung like a like a camera

50:53

bag from it, so it looked like hook, so

50:55

it wouldn't draw attention to us, so it would just look like

50:57

it was natural. Had he seen

51:00

that screw, which is where they're used to looking

51:02

for drugs and stuff, he would have peeled peeled

51:04

that back, pulled the gun out, we would have all gone in

51:06

jail. So he gone he he jumped off.

51:08

He was like, alright. Go to the

51:10

x-ray machine. We're like, okay. We're going to the extra machine. Soon as he gets off the

51:12

bus, I just flipped a fat

51:14

bitch right back into America. Just the

51:16

biggest the fastest u-turn you've ever seen a

51:18

bus do. and would

51:20

go to a Burger King and I

51:22

pull the gun out of the ceiling and I break it

51:24

into a million pieces and I throw it in like a bunch

51:26

of different

51:28

dumpsters. I don't even know why I told that story other

51:30

than the fact that it was it was unencriminated. It was part of our our ten day trip

51:32

to Costa Rica, which gave us time to kinda

51:34

think about what we're gonna do with this whole media

51:38

business. and we decided we wanted

51:40

to double down on creating content. We

51:42

didn't really know what creating

51:43

content was at

51:46

the time. we knew

51:47

people had YouTube channels. Do you remember

51:49

Devin Supertramp? Yeah. Of course. So he was,

51:51

like, from Utah, he was, like, the OG,

51:53

and he kinda ran in the in

51:55

the same

51:55

social circles as we did. And he was doing these big

51:58

blob videos and different things

51:59

and and we're like, oh, that's pretty

52:02

entertaining. Like, we could do we could do some

52:04

YouTube stuff. So two thousand

52:06

we started doing pranks, not on

52:08

the well, some of them were

52:11

over the top level of what you did,

52:13

like totally inappropriate and some of them were, like, we weren't even close to the stuff that you did. You've done some really awesome

52:16

stuff. But one of our big pranks was

52:18

basically we had a friend

52:20

that was going to bathroom

52:22

in in an office, and we knew he

52:24

was in there. And it was, like, a home

52:26

office, like, a detached office kind of a weird

52:28

set up. It was the the the Rockwell company.

52:31

So we took this truck that we had that blew a lot of

52:33

smoke back then. It was like Is that the same

52:35

one that we told the that we made the first

52:37

deal with? Yeah. Back in the day, we were a little more reckless when it

52:39

came to, like, of course, you know, diesel's blowing smoke and

52:42

stuff. We've since matured quite

52:44

a bit. and I have to

52:46

legally say that, and I still have to personally

52:48

say that. But this

52:50

truck blew just an

52:52

astronomical amount of smoke. We hooked the

52:54

landscape pipe up to the tailpipe, ran

52:56

it through the window, and Dave held

52:58

it there while I hit the gas, and we

53:00

filled the bathroom

53:02

with smoke. And the white bathroom is it was completely black

53:04

by the time we were done. Yeah. And you see our buddy

53:06

come come out. He looks like a coal miner and

53:08

he's just

53:10

screaming and yelling and andpants around his ankles. Yeah.

53:12

So it was it was and it was April fools. So it

53:14

was a great April fools prank. Great video,

53:16

posted it, and we get like a million

53:18

views overnight on YouTube and we're like, okay. We got Facebook that's doing

53:21

this crazy thing. We got YouTube that's doing this

53:23

crazy thing. This is wild. What are we

53:25

gonna do with this? and

53:27

we still don't have a product to sell other than our used

53:29

truck dealership. So right after that video

53:32

went viral, Jay Len knows people call us and they're like,

53:34

hey, we love your video. We wanna have you on a segment

53:36

called prank you very much. We're

53:38

like, alright. This is cool. So go down

53:40

there. On the Lino show, show the segment.

53:42

The day

53:43

after that aired, our phone

53:45

just never stopped ringing. discovery. All these

53:47

talent companies, that production companies, people calling us like crazy. Like, we want to

53:49

do something with you guys. And we were like, no.

53:51

No. You guys are like, you're lying

53:53

to us. Like, We thought it was

53:55

the talent scout at the mall trying to make you famous, but

53:58

it was, like, just a scam. So we blew

53:59

them off. I was like, you're not getting me again.

54:02

Yeah. Yeah. It was

54:04

too many headshots are pretty good. They look good. You got

54:06

you. So, yeah, we we we didn't think it

54:08

was real, and we blew them off. And

54:10

then about

54:12

five, six months after

54:12

blowing them off, we finally get an email from, like, one

54:15

of the heads of Discover. You

54:17

know, like, hey, guys.

54:18

could be in stupid. Like, this is

54:20

a actual offer. We're we're gonna guarantee you.

54:22

I think it was six episodes. And so

54:24

they they made it more formal to the point where

54:26

we're like, oh, okay. Like, they might this might be a real

54:28

offer. they sent out a guy with a video camera,

54:31

Bert Lacey. He was, like, the original producer

54:33

of our show, and he was out here for

54:35

two or three days. went back, sliced up this edit,

54:37

and it was, like, greenlit all the way through. As soon as they

54:39

saw it, they were just, like, done. because this was right

54:41

after Duck Dynasty was kinda,

54:44

like, dying there was a hole in the

54:46

market for some weird looking bearded dudes --

54:48

Yeah. -- crazy stuff.

54:50

Fast and loud was getting ready to start dying on

54:52

discovered channels. So there was a there was a

54:54

perfect whole in market for us. So

54:56

we we took the deal. And

55:00

for this is one

55:02

of my biggest I don't have regrets, but something

55:04

that I would have done differently is as soon as

55:06

we start filming for Discovery Channel

55:08

because they came in, it just went full speed ahead, our

55:10

our shop went from a little

55:12

shop to a

55:12

full long TV studio. Mhmm. We could no

55:15

longer do, like, the builds and the

55:17

selling stuff that we want to. We had to focus on doing these

55:19

crazy over the top TV show builds -- Right. -- which is

55:21

really hard to do on camera.

55:23

Most reality TV shows, if you're familiar with

55:25

it, could shoot an episode about a week.

55:28

So the plan was to shoot a six

55:30

or eight episodes for the first season, and it was

55:32

gonna take six or eight weeks, whatever it

55:34

was. week eight comes

55:36

around and we haven't

55:38

finished an an episode yet because we haven't finished

55:40

a build yet because our builds are ridiculously over

55:42

the top and they take time and Somebody

55:44

miscalculated their, like, the timing. So that's

55:46

for, like, a year later, we're barely

55:48

finishing season one, which was eight episodes.

55:52

and it airs. And

55:54

it's

55:54

the number one series

55:56

premier in all of Discovery

55:58

Automotive History or something. It was

56:01

a hit. took off like

56:01

crazy and got in the ratings that they were excited

56:04

about. So we got

56:06

very focused on making more episodes

56:08

of that. And in

56:10

doing that, we stayed on social media for, you know, Instagram and Facebook, but

56:12

we stopped doing YouTube -- Yeah. -- just because we

56:14

couldn't, like -- No. -- and at the same time,

56:16

we only

56:18

created, like, five or six videos

56:20

on YouTube even before we

56:22

went viral with some of the other stuff. So we didn't

56:24

really know what YouTube was. Like it was

56:26

back when you thought you could do or we thought we could do

56:28

like a two minute skip and put it on YouTube and that they that

56:30

would be valuable. We didn't understand watch time. We

56:32

didn't understand vlogging. We didn't understand any of that

56:34

world. Didn't even know it was. So we just

56:36

kind of let YouTube simmer just all

56:39

the fan base and everybody that we created there.

56:41

We said, hey, come over, you know,

56:43

watch the TV show. So TV show ran,

56:45

solid well, here's the thing

56:48

running. Here's the thing, Roman.

56:50

This is why this podcast is

56:52

gonna be interesting. We're

56:54

gonna give you we're gonna tell you things that

56:56

we we haven't been able to tell anybody else

56:58

yet. And a few different things across

57:00

board's information people been waiting on. Let's go. So you're gonna get, like, the scoop. And wait

57:02

for this. You're gonna get the exclusive so

57:05

TV show aired in

57:07

two thousand sixteen. And

57:10

we filmed roughly a full season

57:12

every year, which is stupid. Like, you

57:14

should not

57:15

we should be filming three

57:17

seasons a year. but what we do

57:19

takes time. And so that was good. That was

57:22

also bad

57:22

for us because discovery would have

57:25

loved to run forty episodes a year,

57:27

but we can only create eight to ten. So COVID hit.

57:30

Everything got shut down as far as filming

57:32

goes. And then they came back to film

57:34

after

57:34

COVID.

57:36

And

57:36

at that point, I was just like, I'm not really enjoying

57:39

this

57:39

anymore. Like, a, like I told you

57:41

earlier on, I don't like getting

57:43

cornered into a

57:46

niche. How did

57:47

you feel like when you were just a prank guy? Well, I did a

57:49

YouTube red show -- Mhmm. -- and

57:51

it was it was like devastating

57:53

to my YouTube channel.

57:56

Yeah. because I was pulled a different when I was daily vlogging,

57:58

that's the only thing I had time for.

58:00

Right. Anything else would

58:03

take away from what

58:05

I was really popping in. So I've done

58:07

a couple shows and it

58:09

took away from what

58:11

I enjoyed doing. Right. So I can relate a little

58:14

bit there. Yeah. So it it just got to

58:16

the point where we I got

58:18

tired of being called just the truck guy. And the

58:20

problem also was even though there

58:22

was four main characters on the show,

58:24

and these guys did awesome and they, you

58:26

know, it was myself,

58:28

Diesel Dave, Red Beard, and the

58:30

Mussel are both and we're all close friends. We were

58:32

going into the show. And we all just kinda have

58:34

this agreement that if it ever sucks, we're done.

58:37

We're gonna get out, which most reality TV

58:39

shows don't, like, one year in, it's

58:41

all you've got. You've signed -- Yeah. -- hang on. Well, that you're either

58:43

you're either stuck contractually

58:46

or you don't see anywhere else

58:48

to go and you you're scared. Right? You don't wanna

58:50

lose that. I didn't

58:52

feel that way. I just felt like I felt

58:54

like the day that I'm done is the day that I'm done and I

58:56

just I'm not gonna do anymore. So we

58:58

shot our last season or our most

59:00

recent season like a

59:02

year almost a year and a half ago --

59:04

Yeah. -- which is this is very frustrating for

59:06

me and Discover's probably gonna hate that I'm talking

59:08

about this. This isn't talking bad about them.

59:10

This is frustration with their process. The builds

59:12

that we did that are gonna air on the new season,

59:14

which comes out November fourth, I think this season Which

59:16

this is for new news. Like, nobody

59:18

knows this this is yeah. New

59:20

season of these brothers coming out. Everything's the

59:22

show was either down or cancel or whatever.

59:24

Mhmm. It's not it's we still have a season in the

59:26

can that was filmed like a year and a half

59:28

ago. And complications from

59:30

COVID and different things like that. The reason why

59:32

it's delayed, but at the end of the day, there's no reason

59:34

it should have been pushed back this far like this.

59:36

Other than

59:36

the editing took a while, but I feel like

59:38

it should have aired at least this summer, if not

59:41

sooner. But in going into this this

59:43

last season, I told all the producers I said, I'm done.

59:45

This is it. I don't wanna do

59:47

anymore. And I don't think anybody believed me. I think

59:49

that I'll thought, like, everybody says that.

59:51

Yeah. And I'm not easy to work with when

59:53

I want something. Like, when I want my

59:55

way, it's my way. Like, it's gonna happen.

59:58

And I I very much felt that way, but

59:59

they just thought that

1:00:01

maybe dangling more of

1:00:03

this or that. At the end of the day,

1:00:05

I said I'm done. We're we're no more. So this season coming up is the

1:00:07

last season of diesel brothers. And they finally

1:00:10

understand that on the discovery and the production side,

1:00:12

so that's how

1:00:14

their marketing a final season of Diesel

1:00:16

Brothers, which to me is a huge weight lifted off my shoulders because

1:00:18

I would continue i

1:00:21

would continue to do to do network

1:00:22

television if they would let us do real

1:00:25

stuff. Yeah. That's the tough

1:00:27

balance. But you hear it all the time, everyone's

1:00:29

like, oh, reality TV is fake, It's

1:00:31

this. It's that. It's like, you're right. It is

1:00:34

scripted in a lot of ways, and there is

1:00:36

fabricated drama, but it's worse than that.

1:00:38

It's the fact that they only highlight and

1:00:40

focus in on one little

1:00:42

aspect of your life and you start to feel like

1:00:44

a puppy, you start to feel like somebody who you're

1:00:46

not. And I was realizing like, man, I have all

1:00:48

these other interests of all these other things that

1:00:50

I do when the camera is not rolling,

1:00:52

and the things that I do off

1:00:54

camera happen to be the things that people love

1:00:56

on the show the most. Like, when when

1:00:58

Discovery would kinda dip into this

1:01:00

world a little bit and kinda show, like, what

1:01:02

we're doing outside the shop, people would go nuts

1:01:04

and they'd love it. And So finally,

1:01:06

this this was two

1:01:08

thousand twenty October. We

1:01:10

hadn't posted anything on YouTube for

1:01:12

five years. my the

1:01:14

heavy esports channel where we post everything now had

1:01:16

maybe forty thousand subscribers that

1:01:18

it was just stagnant dead. And, you

1:01:20

know, it's hard to bring a channel back after it's

1:01:22

been dead for that long. Yes. So we're

1:01:24

just like, alright. Let's let's

1:01:27

two two things. A, we're gonna show

1:01:29

discovery what an actual spin off could look like

1:01:31

of us not doing truck builds. We're

1:01:33

just gonna follow our recoveries or

1:01:35

whatever's happening in our

1:01:37

life. b, we just wanna we wanna

1:01:39

be back on YouTube because we feel

1:01:42

like I saw the I saw the change

1:01:44

coming in

1:01:46

in the way Instagram was falling off and and all

1:01:48

these other platforms were trying to clamor for attention,

1:01:50

but nothing was really working that well

1:01:53

outside of YouTube. So that was the my goal was

1:01:55

to say, hey, let's show discover that we create, like, our

1:01:58

own TV show that would that would

1:02:00

perform well.

1:02:02

and then also let's go make some money on

1:02:04

YouTube. And we started posting on October twenty twenty and it

1:02:07

blew up.

1:02:08

Luckily, even our first video

1:02:10

was just like a huge hit. And we didn't know anything.

1:02:12

Still, two thousand twenty. I don't know the algorithm.

1:02:14

I don't know. You should see my thumbnails

1:02:16

back in two thousand twenty. Mhmm. letting YouTube grab

1:02:18

random screen grabs. Like, I didn't know. Damn.

1:02:20

Yeah. I didn't know. Well, the first I

1:02:22

remember the first video. I was filming with my

1:02:25

iPhone. We're in a hotel. We

1:02:27

were making it TikTok or something. Yeah. And I said,

1:02:29

I was like, I was just filming and

1:02:31

diesel's like, what are you doing? I'm

1:02:33

like, we're vlogging, man, we're shooting a

1:02:35

YouTube here. It's like, what is

1:02:37

What is that? Two thousand twenty. This is too much. makes sense.

1:02:40

You know, that's where he he doesn't know what vlogging

1:02:42

is. I barely know what

1:02:44

vlogging is. See, the thing is,

1:02:46

I've always I always knew that YouTube was gonna be hard. And so I

1:02:48

knew that if I did it, I had to go all the way

1:02:50

in or else I didn't wanna go in at all. So I didn't

1:02:52

wanna try to get to know it and just kind of dabble in it

1:02:54

because I would frustrated. Yeah.

1:02:56

So that's why we waited and held off. And then

1:02:58

once we went in, I was just like, alright. We are

1:03:00

gonna figure this out. That's why I've always had so much respect for

1:03:02

you guys because you guys figured it

1:03:04

out earlier And

1:03:06

to

1:03:06

YouTube is unlike anything on

1:03:08

this planet. The

1:03:09

viewers, the experience, the way you

1:03:12

have to engage with them, there is

1:03:14

nothing else like it. and for

1:03:16

better and worse. Because once you have

1:03:18

those people, bro, you've got fans for life.

1:03:20

People are gonna follow you to the grave because

1:03:22

of what you'd created on YouTube.

1:03:25

but you also it's a commitment. It's a

1:03:27

relationship. Right? It's a life. It's a life. It is.

1:03:29

And I didn't get that. I thought it was like, oh, this

1:03:31

is some spare content. Let's just grab a beer. You

1:03:33

can't dab on YouTube. can't dabble

1:03:35

and they're always changing. Yeah. Right?

1:03:38

So when we were in our prime, it was

1:03:40

the Wild West. You post like you're saying

1:03:42

about Facebook, you post whatever you want. Yeah. They just want viral Yeah.

1:03:44

That's kinda where we were right place, right time

1:03:46

with the pranks and the blogs.

1:03:48

When did you start? Two

1:03:51

thousand nine. Two thousand nine. Yeah. And what was

1:03:53

the hay day? twenty

1:03:56

Twenty

1:03:57

fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, was that

1:03:59

the prank stopper had you rolled into the vlogging? The vlogging

1:03:59

-- Yeah. -- heavily surpassed the

1:04:02

pranks. because the vlog channel is about fifteen million

1:04:04

subs, something like that. Yeah. Is there a

1:04:06

prank channel? Yeah.

1:04:08

Separate. Yeah. And now there's a podcast channel. So mainly

1:04:10

three channels. Yeah. And I've pretty

1:04:12

much left each one. Like, I haven't left

1:04:15

the vlog channel, but we just kinda

1:04:17

dabble in ETFs, things like that. Yeah. But, you know,

1:04:19

I'd like to do more on there for some of

1:04:21

the vlog channel. Yeah. Now

1:04:23

that do you feel like you would like to do more on

1:04:26

there now that you don't have

1:04:28

to? Maybe. But I think I also miss

1:04:30

out on like, the

1:04:32

the the camaraderie of things that

1:04:34

happened outside this podcast -- Right. -- and,

1:04:36

like, going outside the shop and catching those

1:04:38

moments. That's where I'm

1:04:40

now missing. but I can do it. Your terms this time? Rather than

1:04:42

daily terms because that's a rough life. Yeah. I can't do

1:04:44

daily. No. I don't know how I ever did that. I

1:04:46

don't know how anybody does

1:04:48

that. It's dangerous. Between

1:04:50

I mean, I've heard I've heard a little bit on Logan's Podcast.

1:04:52

You're talking about shooting all day, editing all

1:04:54

night. Yeah. That alone is really, really

1:04:56

taxing, but then you have to come up with

1:04:59

things to do. And, like, do you have to have a daily schedule? I

1:05:01

mean, that's not just you kicking around. Like, you can't

1:05:03

have a casual day. Yeah. And we were

1:05:05

at a size where the

1:05:07

pressure to outdo yourself each day

1:05:10

was a real thing. Right. I was like, I can't

1:05:12

just hang out at

1:05:13

the house today. Right. You gotta go big.

1:05:15

Yeah. And you're doing that year after year

1:05:17

after year it just starts to, like, I was just in it. I

1:05:19

didn't even

1:05:19

realize it. Right. Not until I stopped

1:05:22

doing it. But I was like,

1:05:24

holy crap. I just aged like ten

1:05:26

years in the matter of five years.

1:05:28

Dude, it beat me to death. Yeah. Yeah. Was

1:05:30

it heart of

1:05:32

your relationship? No. I don't think so. Was it? She can't

1:05:34

talk. She's asleep on the

1:05:36

couch. You're supposed to be correcting and fact

1:05:38

checking. No. I think

1:05:40

we were so and we started this together. Yeah. Like, we

1:05:42

literally started YouTube together. So I

1:05:44

think we're just all in together. I don't ever

1:05:46

remember fighting

1:05:48

over YouTube. were you both on

1:05:50

the same page when it came time to slow down? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah.

1:05:52

It's been like AAA unit.

1:05:56

Yeah. Yeah. What's cool though? And

1:05:58

the reason why I got into what you did is

1:05:59

is you paid

1:06:00

your dues big time. You went in

1:06:02

and you showed YouTube viewers that you have what it

1:06:04

takes to commit to the daily this, daily that. And we

1:06:07

knew that we could not get into YouTube if

1:06:09

we weren't gonna make that full commitment. He'd been trying to

1:06:11

get me to go back on YouTube since,

1:06:13

like, two thousand eighteen. and we did a

1:06:15

video and we either wouldn't edit it or we wouldn't post it

1:06:17

or whatever wouldn't happen. Mhmm. When I knew that

1:06:19

it was time and that

1:06:20

we were back in, when I make my mind up,

1:06:23

Yeah. It's dangerous thing because it's like, go.

1:06:26

All in. All in. Yeah. And and it's

1:06:28

not just gonna be all in. It's gonna be

1:06:30

the best damned content you've ever seen and we're gonna try to figure out how carve

1:06:32

out a niche of content in a

1:06:34

world where there's a bunch of guys that already do what

1:06:36

we do, but we're gonna do it differently and we're

1:06:39

gonna get people. and my whole I

1:06:41

came in with a chip on my shoulder being the truck guy. And so I said,

1:06:44

I am not just gonna be the truck anymore. I'm

1:06:46

gonna be the grandma guy. I'm

1:06:48

gonna be the little

1:06:50

kids watching. I'm gonna be I wanna be a

1:06:52

household, you know,

1:06:54

entertainment with what we do. I wanna provide that because

1:06:56

that's what our TV show kinda became. Originally, they

1:06:58

were targeting the eighteen to forty five year old male demographic of their

1:07:00

show. It became a family show in no time

1:07:02

at all because, you know, we goof around. We do fun

1:07:04

stuff. Yeah. And it wasn't just like Spark

1:07:07

plug goes here or you do this. It wasn't just a

1:07:09

build process show. So I don't

1:07:12

know where spark plugs go anyway. Yeah. We don't. We don't have

1:07:14

to find a spark

1:07:16

plug stuff. So that's where we're at

1:07:18

now. With the YouTube channel,

1:07:20

we

1:07:20

were really I mean,

1:07:22

we are we are in it. We are committed.

1:07:26

And we're not just committed because we have to be, but we're committed because we

1:07:28

wanna become the best. I mean, we

1:07:30

grew two two and a half

1:07:32

million subs in

1:07:34

two years.

1:07:35

So Epic. Yeah. It was good growth.

1:07:37

Yeah. And our our if you look at our

1:07:39

watch time and our CPM, we

1:07:41

have really, really great viewers. It's not just it's not

1:07:43

just views. Like, we are getting solid solid. I mean,

1:07:46

we're growing by, like, a

1:07:48

hundred and fifty to two

1:07:50

hundred fifty thousand subs every single month.

1:07:52

Wow. And it's because we're not

1:07:54

just being the truck guys. I

1:07:56

think people Clidus told me he's like, he's like, dude, when I watch your your channel,

1:07:58

like, I feel like I just got a part handed,

1:08:00

like, a party sack with all these different things

1:08:02

in that. And I reach and I don't know what I'm

1:08:04

gonna get. and I love

1:08:06

that. I wanna be that. I wanna know,

1:08:08

like, you know, tomorrow, I might

1:08:10

post a video. Tomorrow, we probably are gonna post a

1:08:12

post a video about diving, searching for a

1:08:14

missing person. And then in a few days after that, you're gonna see us taking, you know, Chris

1:08:16

Herier's fitness youtuber.

1:08:18

He's like a Asian

1:08:20

kid. Sounds so

1:08:22

familiar. Yeah. He's got a big channel. Look, my name was big channel. If you've ever done the app video online, he it

1:08:24

his. It's what I was

1:08:26

texting you today though. We and

1:08:30

another guy and dropped him off on the island in

1:08:32

the Middle East, South Lake. So it's almost like a mister beast style challenge, but

1:08:34

it's more real -- Mhmm. -- less games and more like, hey, like,

1:08:38

guys don't get off. It's gonna suck for you. And we left

1:08:40

them in in the middle of

1:08:42

nowhere. So survival challenges, but the

1:08:44

the whole

1:08:45

purpose behind what we're doing is it

1:08:47

needs be meaningful and relatable. So if if you don't if

1:08:49

you watch one of our videos and it's over and you

1:08:51

don't feel like

1:08:54

sad, mad, happy, horny,

1:08:56

whatever it is. You don't feel what

1:08:58

I love. Oh, you love. YouTube. YouTube. YouTube

1:09:01

was I supposed to get the horny --

1:09:03

We want -- -- from where that one's coming. -- is it

1:09:05

You wanna at least tell you. We wanna we wanna

1:09:07

watch how the viewers have an experience in going

1:09:09

that route. That's cool. And then we also wanna

1:09:11

take we've always kind of

1:09:12

been focused on helping other people. That's Utah

1:09:14

in in a nutshell serving each other. So we wanna take

1:09:16

that to another level, and

1:09:19

that's why we start on these cold

1:09:21

cases of searching for missing people. And -- We got stuff's wild. --

1:09:23

it is wild, man. Wild. You can get a

1:09:25

whole new demographic of

1:09:28

ill too. It's probably the biggest

1:09:30

demographic is probably the biggest demographic out there. It's on podcast

1:09:32

too. Right? Exactly. These

1:09:35

these true crime podcasts crazy

1:09:38

big. Yep. So we you had some funny when we started posting some of the missing person my

1:09:40

wife will start getting messages

1:09:42

from girls her age, like, I

1:09:46

love your husband. I love what he's doing. She's like, what beauty post? And

1:09:48

it's like, oh, it's a missing person one. Like, all

1:09:50

these true crime moms that -- Yes. --

1:09:53

moms love it. but it's also very meaningful

1:09:55

for

1:09:55

us because we're able to we have access to

1:09:57

resources and

1:09:58

equipment, that

1:09:59

law enforcement, either

1:10:02

doesn't have access to or can't get approval to use.

1:10:04

Mhmm. And we can just go in and do

1:10:06

it tomorrow. So, like, for example, last two

1:10:09

or three years ago, we were

1:10:11

flying a drone out in a military operating

1:10:13

area in the West Desert, Utah searching for a clandestine grave of a kid

1:10:15

who went missing in May. And they've

1:10:19

been trying to get the FBI to do it for three months and they couldn't get approval. Nobody could

1:10:21

get approval for law enforcement to do it. We heard about it.

1:10:23

We were the next day. And so

1:10:26

that's what's cool is we're able to take our ad revenue back buying

1:10:28

more equipment to, like, we're to the point

1:10:30

where we're actually rescuing people and going

1:10:34

at, like, Monday,

1:10:35

we're flying up to Washington, and we cut

1:10:37

the call out of out of

1:10:39

pretty much every company

1:10:41

in the in the country. to recover airplane crash

1:10:43

on the top of a a big mountain

1:10:46

up in Oregon. And we're actually

1:10:48

recovering the guys' remains

1:10:50

too. So there's the body still there. Oh my. So it's gone like,

1:10:52

us pulling tractors out of the

1:10:54

mud to now we're using specialty equipment

1:10:58

and doing things and going places that search and

1:11:01

rescue can't even do because we

1:11:03

have the resources to do

1:11:05

it. And that's that's where we're pouring

1:11:07

all of the resources back into the channel

1:11:09

to grow that way. Dude, what's the process

1:11:11

of pulling a body out?

1:11:13

It's rough, man. That's depends on on

1:11:15

how and where the body so we

1:11:17

we have we have some friends that run adventures

1:11:19

with purpose YouTube channel. They're

1:11:21

rescue divers. and their whole niche is solving

1:11:23

cold cases by diving

1:11:24

in bodies of water where the person

1:11:27

was last seen and tip and usually

1:11:29

they'll find their person's car and in a lot of cases,

1:11:31

they'll find the body in there. So that's a body underwater. Right?

1:11:33

You you you work with law enforcement, you pull

1:11:35

it out. A

1:11:37

plane crashed the whole different story because Body is no longer

1:11:40

just there. Right. Body is everywhere.

1:11:41

So that one is gonna be

1:11:45

excuse me, rough, man. It's like

1:11:47

it's like it's a it's a it's a

1:11:47

it's a terrible process. And even the coroner sheriff

1:11:49

can't get access to this. So they, you

1:11:52

know, I had the phone call with them yesterday and it's

1:11:54

like, hey, you are gonna be the one that's that's doing

1:11:56

that. So take

1:11:58

a body bag and you take,

1:12:00

you know,

1:12:01

all the equipment to be safe

1:12:03

and and protect yourself from. Can you

1:12:05

tell us that part of the story till we got here to your place?

1:12:07

Yeah. I didn't find out until yesterday. But anytime we search

1:12:09

for a missing person, we

1:12:12

are always prepared

1:12:14

to find a body. If you find

1:12:16

a body in a missing person case, everything stops. The

1:12:18

whole world stops and you have to wait for

1:12:21

law enforcement come in and then Now they

1:12:23

show up. Then yeah. Then they show up. And then but

1:12:25

even then, in most cases, they would require us to extract the body because they're

1:12:27

not able to do it. So that's that's

1:12:31

a meaningful thing for us. And I'll tell you the reason why

1:12:33

I'd be on this plane this plane crash one.

1:12:35

Dude, flat crashes plane

1:12:37

two weeks ago. older guy, you know, beautiful

1:12:40

family, has a wife, has

1:12:42

three kids. He was retired.

1:12:44

Terrible accident crashed into a mountain.

1:12:46

Well, all the finances were in his

1:12:48

name. So when he died, his wife went down to the

1:12:50

bank. He was like, hey, my husband died. Like, he was in this plane crash.

1:12:52

I need to get access

1:12:54

to the bank account. And the

1:12:57

bank's like, no, you can't. We need a death certificate. So

1:12:59

she's like, oh, okay. Like, he's dead. But, okay. So she goes down the corner and then,

1:13:01

like, hey, can I get a

1:13:04

death certificate? like, no,

1:13:06

you can't that's to have to get until you

1:13:08

get the remains. All of this remains back to us, which I don't understand that. That doesn't make

1:13:10

any sense to me. So she's locked out of all of her bank accounts. For service,

1:13:15

and NTSB want

1:13:15

her she's responsible for paying

1:13:17

for the putting cover because there's no insurance.

1:13:19

It's fifty thousand dollars. She's

1:13:21

in the half fifty thousand dollars. So she's

1:13:23

stuck in limbo for weeks at a time. The family started a little what really

1:13:25

got me was the family started to go fund me

1:13:27

for fifty grand to raise the money for it. And

1:13:29

when I looked at it a couple days ago, it

1:13:32

was like, fifteen

1:13:34

hundred bucks. So I was like, nah, we're doing this. Like, so I called and called and called and it's always weird I'm

1:13:36

Joe Bloh, or if they know me,

1:13:38

I'm got the guy from YouTube or TV.

1:13:43

and I'm offering to recover their, you know, DC's loved one from plane accident, and

1:13:45

I'm offering to do it for free. Like, those

1:13:48

first first five minutes

1:13:50

better phone call are very

1:13:52

weird. They they they don't believe me.

1:13:54

They think they're getting scammed. Once they do believe me, then they don't they

1:13:56

don't truly believe that it's

1:13:58

happening. Like, they

1:13:59

become, like, kinda

1:14:02

come to shock a little bit. So it's rewarding, man. It's doing the Lord's work, man. Yeah.

1:14:04

I would say it's

1:14:06

it's something where we specialize

1:14:10

pride ourselves on being able to go anywhere, rescue

1:14:12

anyone or anything at any time, in

1:14:14

any condition, any weather, and we

1:14:17

are starting to get really good at

1:14:19

it. and that's not the direction that we were going. Yeah. We just started by

1:14:21

risking our own stuff, and then we started getting

1:14:23

better at it, and other

1:14:24

people started calling us. So

1:14:26

I'm I'm just really fortunate that it's

1:14:29

makes good YouTube content that people watch it. But that's

1:14:31

why going back to the diversity of the content. We can

1:14:32

put anything on the channel

1:14:35

now because we have proven to

1:14:38

the viewers that we're gonna be consistent. Whether it's

1:14:40

a Blackhawk update -- Yeah. -- or search and

1:14:42

rescue or there's a fun little, you know,

1:14:45

island survival video, we will be

1:14:47

consistent. We'll continue to give our all. Yeah. And and

1:14:49

you can tell in our production quality, like, we take

1:14:51

a lot of pride in making

1:14:53

sure that you're watching, like,

1:14:55

a mini movie That's cool. Yeah. It's it's been

1:14:57

fun. So that's that's where we're at right now. We have I have a few

1:15:00

I don't wanna where

1:15:02

are we at on time. how

1:15:04

you're fine, dude? I'll there's a couple of other updates and

1:15:06

things that I can talk about that other viewers are gonna wanna hear. And

1:15:09

so I'll just dive right in there.

1:15:11

Yeah. Give it to him. In

1:15:14

two thousand twenty, I was approached

1:15:17

by a friend of mine who had a

1:15:19

you owned a electric vehicle. Oh, geez.

1:15:21

You're going here. Yeah. This is I'm not gonna This

1:15:23

is a big conversation. It's a hard turn. I'm gonna make

1:15:25

a turn left out, but We went for a

1:15:27

week. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah. It's a man

1:15:29

type folks. This is a Nissan Nikola update. So

1:15:32

where you heard a lot of people have been waiting to

1:15:34

hear about this. But it might start a company called Nikola

1:15:36

Motors. Nikola

1:15:38

was basically electric semi truck company. And then he came

1:15:40

to me in two thousand twenty and said, hey, I wanna release

1:15:42

a pickup truck. Let's take it to the market. And

1:15:44

then that same year, they were

1:15:46

going public. Have you heard Nikola? Just because

1:15:48

been so

1:15:51

yeah. It's it's basically it was it was rivaling Tesla

1:15:53

kind of, like,

1:15:55

neck and neck. but they

1:15:57

were mostly semi trucks. Anyways, Trevor Milton, my buddy who who who was actually

1:15:59

currently in

1:16:04

trial in New York for a bunch of stuff

1:16:06

that

1:16:06

happened regarding the story.

1:16:07

But anyways, he came to me and

1:16:09

said, hey, I wanna release a truck.

1:16:12

I said, idea. He said, I want you to

1:16:14

be the face behind that. I want you to help me design it. So I said, alright. Let's do it. So we worked out this deal for

1:16:19

me to have a piece of that program, the truck program, I was called the Nikola

1:16:21

Badger. And we will, like, literally just went

1:16:23

to the races. I'm trying to figure

1:16:25

out how to build this truck and

1:16:27

develop it. And And at

1:16:29

the same time, the company

1:16:32

was going public in June of

1:16:34

twenty one or twenty. It was twenty.

1:16:37

company went public, I think, in June of

1:16:39

The public, became worth

1:16:44

more than Like, the share

1:16:46

prices surged up to, like, almost a hundred

1:16:48

bucks a share. It was insane. Like, just absolutely out

1:16:50

of control. And we were getting preorders for this

1:16:54

truck, this like, the cyber truck, but we have

1:16:56

older that we were gonna build.

1:16:58

And, again, we were just selling

1:17:01

pre orders and reservations. we sold,

1:17:03

like, it was,

1:17:04

like, half a billion dollars worth of trucks

1:17:06

in, like, in a matter of a few

1:17:08

weeks with nothing but a rendering. We didn't

1:17:10

have the truck yet because it was still being built. So

1:17:12

one thing that we promised, well, that

1:17:14

the company talked about having, you gotta be

1:17:17

so careful to use world of promises and

1:17:19

this and that. I'm just This is I

1:17:21

gotta hit you with the disclaimer.

1:17:23

This is this is not none

1:17:24

of this

1:17:26

information is is like designed

1:17:29

to help anybody make any sort of decision based off of, like, stocks or anything like

1:17:31

that. And it's not also it's also not designed to

1:17:35

be like fact based step by step of

1:17:37

what happened. It's just my view of kinda where things happened. You're

1:17:40

making this

1:17:42

whole thing up. I'm making this the best thing I wish I

1:17:44

was. The fantasy island. So the

1:17:46

company goes public blows up Trevor.

1:17:48

My buddy becomes one of

1:17:50

the newest billionaires on the Forbes I

1:17:52

was there at his house that day that Forbes called

1:17:54

and he was, like, worth fourteen billion with all of his share his shares in the company. And,

1:17:56

again, the company was worth more

1:17:58

than Forbes for a few weeks.

1:18:01

and it's electric company that electric truck company that really hadn't delivered a lot of vehicles yet. It

1:18:03

was close to delivering its semis, but

1:18:08

people were really excited about. They were excited about

1:18:10

the electric truck. They were the pickup truck. They were excited about the semi. They were just excited about everything

1:18:14

that was going on. and

1:18:16

then late, call it,

1:18:18

August or September, a

1:18:21

company called Hindenburg Research.

1:18:23

There's a short seller. based

1:18:26

out of New York. They watched the stock go up, and they found they saw an opportunity, and they came

1:18:29

they wrote this huge

1:18:31

report mixed with all

1:18:34

sorts of information, half truth, some

1:18:36

truth, lies, flat out, like,

1:18:39

just basically compiled this

1:18:41

whole story about Trevor and who he was and what type of

1:18:43

person he was and they released it. And right before they did that, they

1:18:45

went short on

1:18:48

the stock. and they tanked the

1:18:50

stock. And they made, like, eight hundred million dollars or something like that. ridiculous. Don't quote me on the number, but it was

1:18:52

some huge number based off

1:18:54

this report, which, like I said,

1:18:58

Trevor's a hard guy to get along with sometimes. Like, he has

1:19:00

made a lot of enemies along the way,

1:19:02

but they accused him of, like, blatant

1:19:05

scam and this and all these terrible things, which

1:19:07

III

1:19:07

disagree with

1:19:09

pretty much the whole report, but that

1:19:11

sparked an investigation. Well, when

1:19:13

the investigation happened, the board and Nikola

1:19:15

removed Nikola or removed Trevor from the company

1:19:18

basically completely kicked him off. But I

1:19:20

still had to deal with

1:19:22

the company because was supposed to take ownership of this Badger program.

1:19:24

And what people don't realize is

1:19:25

the Badger program was still going. Everybody

1:19:27

thinks that the Badger was just me, went

1:19:29

out there with a picture and said, hey, look,

1:19:31

This is gonna be a cool truck by the That wasn't it? It was me behind the scenes

1:19:34

building an actual truck, working with the not

1:19:36

building it personally,

1:19:38

but working with the manufacturers. and

1:19:40

there was two prototype trucks that were supposed to be

1:19:42

ready for a show in December of of two thousand twenty. Well, I'm here

1:19:44

to tell you right now,

1:19:46

nobody knows this. Those trucks got

1:19:49

built and they were delivered by the date that they were supposed

1:19:51

to be delivered. But since Trevor had been removed and there was so much

1:19:53

drama and accusations and all these

1:19:55

different things like GM, was

1:19:58

the partner to build this truck. It was a

1:19:59

huge deal. Once GM heard about the report,

1:20:02

they pulled out. It was just this big

1:20:04

drama. Like, if you look up Trevor Mountain, you see

1:20:06

the whole thing. So

1:20:06

a lot of people, a lot of retail investors lost a

1:20:09

lot of money because they jumped in at a hundred

1:20:11

bucks a share, and then this this

1:20:13

short seller comes out, tanks the stock with a report

1:20:15

that I wasn't a percent

1:20:16

true by any means. And

1:20:18

and so the Badger program basically

1:20:22

just disappeared. Well, that

1:20:23

left me holding the bag of I just told all these people

1:20:25

that were gonna build this electric truck, and now I

1:20:27

can't even talk about it. Like, the lawyers,

1:20:29

like, you can't talk about it. You

1:20:31

can't say Just just lay low shut up and

1:20:33

and don't do anything. And a lot of people bought stock too. Mhmm. That was

1:20:35

a crappy part. A lot of And you never

1:20:37

told people too? Like me, for example,

1:20:40

I bought a

1:20:42

bunch of shares. People bought the the

1:20:44

highest point because it's like it's just a starting

1:20:46

company. This is where it's gonna go way higher.

1:20:48

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Right? and then all these allegations

1:20:50

come out and then it just tanks. So, like, I still amount a ton of money from it. Well, we just had

1:20:53

this we have

1:20:55

this beautiful path felt

1:20:57

like success. We were having this new pickup truck that was gonna enter the market. It

1:20:59

was being built by GM. We had UTVs.

1:21:04

wave runners, semi trucks, this whole range of products, and

1:21:06

everything was starting to come together. Semi trucks are being delivered,

1:21:10

like, on the road. So that gets canceled and I

1:21:12

get basically shoved in the closet. They're

1:21:15

like, don't say a word.

1:21:18

And I was like, this up ready to

1:21:19

go, like, you know, basically go after this

1:21:21

company that just told me

1:21:23

to shut up and and to deliver

1:21:25

on because I never got

1:21:27

paid a single penny. on the deal. It

1:21:29

was all based off performance. If the Badger program became what it was, then I

1:21:31

was gonna get a chunk of equity. This

1:21:35

is where how we got to all this.

1:21:37

Trevor's been under investigation for the last two

1:21:40

years. His trial

1:21:42

finally happened beginning of October

1:21:46

or beginning of September. It's been going for about four weeks now. And this is where they

1:21:52

are trying him for it's

1:21:54

a jury trial, a huge trial in New York. It is a monster trial. It's big money. It's huge. I mean,

1:21:56

you do the so Nikola,

1:21:58

as part of the whole thing,

1:22:02

they got fined a hundred and twenty million dollars

1:22:04

just for their part in saying,

1:22:06

basically, the accusations were that Trevor

1:22:08

and the company were making false statements

1:22:10

about how far advanced the technology was.

1:22:12

And there's all sorts of things

1:22:14

you can

1:22:15

see online about what

1:22:17

he said and

1:22:18

what he didn't say. in

1:22:21

my opinion, it was a a CEO trying to rally the troops and get

1:22:23

people excited about the company. But when you're a public company, you have to be very careful

1:22:25

with what you do and

1:22:27

don't say. And forward looking statements

1:22:29

and stuff like that. So that's kinda what the whole trial is based around whether or not

1:22:31

Trevor intentionally said things that were true

1:22:36

or false. So he's a good

1:22:38

friend. He's been in front of mine for a long, long time. Friday of this week, he'll the

1:22:40

jury's gonna make a

1:22:42

decision, and it's gonna be

1:22:44

either It's kinda like an

1:22:46

all or nothing deal. I think there's four or five counts.

1:22:48

And if he's guilty on one, he almost has to be guilty on all

1:22:50

of them. That's kinda how the way it looks right now.

1:22:54

and we find out whether

1:22:56

or not whether or not the judge and the

1:22:58

jury think that he actually was intentionally trying

1:23:01

to mislead people. which is

1:23:02

a big deal for him. Right? This is the

1:23:04

difference between probably prison or not. Yeah.

1:23:06

And, you know, he's still worth billions of

1:23:08

dollars because he still has his shares in

1:23:10

the company. the the shares have tanked, but he made a bunch of money

1:23:13

along the way. But the reason why I

1:23:15

tell the story is because meanwhile,

1:23:18

in the background, all this garbage has

1:23:21

been happening, and the company's been

1:23:23

getting just absolutely hammered. I've been working

1:23:25

very closely with the Nikola team and with

1:23:27

a bunch of different people. to keep that

1:23:29

program alive because there's two Badger pickup trucks that we promised that

1:23:31

would be ready to show. They're

1:23:33

prototypes. They're not production

1:23:35

trucks, but they they

1:23:37

look like production trucks. They're done sitting there ready to go, ready to be announced, and that program's ready

1:23:39

to be, you know,

1:23:42

pushed out there. So I

1:23:46

can't tell

1:23:47

you exactly what's happening, but

1:23:49

I can't tell you that the

1:23:51

Badger program

1:23:52

is not dead. It's

1:23:54

it's there could be something coming as soon as within the

1:23:57

next few weeks talking about the

1:23:59

future of

1:23:59

what will become of

1:24:01

that -- Mhmm. -- whether it's prototypes

1:24:03

or a full company. I can't I can't

1:24:05

say that till the you know,

1:24:08

we make the forum

1:24:10

press announcement or press release, but

1:24:12

the reason I tell you this because there's a lot of

1:24:14

people watching this that know me -- Yeah. -- that think that I just went quiet on it and just was

1:24:16

like, oh, well, I made my money

1:24:18

and I'm and I'm gonna step away now.

1:24:21

didn't make any money. I made a single penny

1:24:23

and it cost me a lot of money. It cost me my reputation. A lot of time and a lot just brain damage

1:24:28

from people thinking that the the scam report

1:24:30

that was written about Trevor,

1:24:31

which I again was already kind of very skewed

1:24:33

because they were making a bunch of money

1:24:35

off making them look bad. I

1:24:38

was kind of tied to that in some ways to people

1:24:40

thinking that I made a bunch of money and

1:24:42

then walked away. That's not what happened. I've

1:24:44

been working behind the scenes and there's there could

1:24:46

be a very large transaction happens very soon where

1:24:49

what

1:24:49

I promised and what I

1:24:51

talked about trying to

1:24:54

bring to the market. might

1:24:56

come to light very soon. So it's people

1:24:58

are gonna be losing their mind about that because I

1:25:00

the last update video

1:25:02

I promised was, like, last July

1:25:05

of two thousand twenty one. Oh, he'll make posts and still get hate on it. Like, it's crazy. People

1:25:07

just hate, but people just wanna know. Yeah. Since I had

1:25:09

to go radio silence on it,

1:25:12

it's, like, what

1:25:14

the hell dude? Like, III supported this

1:25:17

company. I bought in because of you.

1:25:19

Yep. Which I obviously, a flatter vibe

1:25:21

at the same time is dangerous

1:25:23

because I don't I don't I'm not

1:25:25

gonna tell anybody how does, you know, invest stocks, especially companies that I have, you know, interest in. just

1:25:29

really happy about

1:25:32

this because it's gonna be a

1:25:34

huge moment of indication for me because it's just proof that

1:25:36

it's just proof that

1:25:39

haven't that we've been working really

1:25:41

our kinda seems to build something really cool and it's it's something that I'm

1:25:43

actually really proud of and really excited about. And it's it's the

1:25:45

same thing that people were really excited about when

1:25:47

we first came out talked

1:25:49

about it. So it's gonna be a big moment. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So there's there's

1:25:51

that. That's a that's a big bomb. And then It's

1:25:57

a crazy idea. You just never know

1:25:59

where

1:25:59

you're gonna be ever. Try to explain this to

1:26:02

people. It's like you cannot There's no five year

1:26:04

plan.

1:26:04

quantify So

1:26:06

many different places in five years. Here's the problem, though. So many people up

1:26:10

on on plans.

1:26:13

many people get hung up on goals. And that's why

1:26:15

people always ask me what are your goals? Like, what's your long term goals? And what are you doing? I'll be honest with

1:26:17

you. I don't set long long term goals

1:26:19

as far as, like, super

1:26:23

specific things because it's dangerous for

1:26:25

me, because life happens to

1:26:27

me

1:26:27

faster than I'm able to

1:26:29

accomplish my goals. and but I'm so stubborn and I'll

1:26:31

get stuck on the path of trying to accomplish that

1:26:33

goal. So I learned early on that I just

1:26:36

need to kind

1:26:38

of know how I want to feel in

1:26:40

what I'm doing and and what my lifestyle

1:26:42

needs to look like and feel like. And as

1:26:44

long as my career is supporting that, then I

1:26:46

need to be flexible to jump on different opportunities. I didn't

1:26:49

think we were ever back into YouTube. It

1:26:51

was never the plan. The

1:26:53

opportunity presented itself and we looked at it and said, hey, this

1:26:55

is a great way to do what we

1:26:57

love and and continue once

1:27:00

you start creating media,

1:27:02

you've you've felt this. you wanna get better at it.

1:27:04

You wanna you wanna hone that craft and and

1:27:06

just continue to get better. So it's something I'm

1:27:09

passionate about is creating media and and creating

1:27:11

we're working working on a bunch of stuff that people

1:27:14

don't realize. It's so funny because when people

1:27:17

meet us or

1:27:20

see us, They're like, hey, there's a truck guys. They're the

1:27:22

diesel brothers and they're the guys that did the funny pranks in this and that. It's I love

1:27:26

being underestimated. It's my favorite thing in the entire world. And I don't even know if it's

1:27:28

underestimation. It's just people don't know until all of

1:27:30

a sudden we come out swinging with two

1:27:34

hundred and fifty million dollar electric truck companies. Yeah. Right.

1:27:37

To give it away or or

1:27:39

a cartoon that's, like, dialed

1:27:41

in or these, like, We have so many things

1:27:43

going on behind the scenes that this is an

1:27:45

exciting time for for me and for all

1:27:47

of us because all

1:27:49

the stuff we've been working on and going through

1:27:51

all the painful stuff over the last few years is finally

1:27:53

kinda starting to come to a head and we're starting

1:27:55

to release and and announce

1:27:57

a couple of these big

1:27:59

things and exciting. It's cool.

1:28:02

It's cool to see. It's like, you know, you got you're talking about what what was the the

1:28:04

the YouTube priority ranking

1:28:06

of

1:28:07

the last ten videos. Yeah.

1:28:10

And when you see a video go out and it's a ten out of ten

1:28:12

and you just like, controls you. But at the

1:28:15

same time, it drives me.

1:28:17

And that same type of thing is I love

1:28:19

releasing things and if they even if they fail, it's like, right, I'm

1:28:21

just gonna use that as a measuring stick.

1:28:23

Like, that's that's that's

1:28:25

just an opportunity for me to know and and

1:28:27

YouTube specifically, it's hard to use that

1:28:30

as an exact measuring tool because

1:28:32

just because a video ranked differently

1:28:33

doesn't always mean that the next

1:28:35

one that's a similar theme was

1:28:37

gonna do the exact same thing. Like -- Yeah. -- there's always that magic sauce in the YouTuber algorithm that

1:28:39

just surprises the shit out of you.

1:28:41

Yep. That happens. You don't

1:28:44

know. Yeah. the

1:28:46

podcasts are totally different than I was used to vlogs where you get all your views right away. Right. Podcasts

1:28:48

are so different. Like,

1:28:50

they just go in waves.

1:28:54

Really? Yeah. It's so strange. Like,

1:28:56

predictable waves? No. Not at all. Yeah. I

1:28:58

just see a video. It's like, yeah,

1:29:00

that's cool. And then, like, I'll check it. I'm

1:29:02

like, oh, it has like a huge spike right now. Well, it's because

1:29:05

when it comes to a podcast, the only leverage you

1:29:07

have in a thumbnail on a

1:29:09

title is how popular the guest is. for the most

1:29:11

part. Dommels are tougher. Way tougher, especially with

1:29:13

a whole group. Right. My pocket says,

1:29:15

man, you can say my face brings

1:29:17

zero value. That's what it's gonna only gonna use you.

1:29:19

like, he looked at it. Just rising eyes. He was

1:29:22

like, it's just hard. There's just no way

1:29:24

there's no

1:29:26

value here. No. It is tough. It is can't show anything.

1:29:28

Right. Like, we're sitting at a table. Yep. So

1:29:30

it's like, I'm relying on your face and

1:29:33

that center image. Right. You know? get in the place What are you

1:29:35

gonna what are you gonna I mean, you're you're Roman Howard. You're

1:29:37

gonna figure out how to how to dial that process

1:29:39

in because everybody's

1:29:42

doing Pretty much the same thing. Yeah. You thought you look

1:29:44

at Logan's podcast. All the other podcasts are doing kind of the

1:29:46

same thing. It's a picture of the guys and the guest

1:29:48