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Hello everybody , welcome back to another episode

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of the Root of the Matter . I'm your host

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, dr Rachel Carver , and today we

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are , fortunate my own podcast . She talks

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a lot about

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lymph and Stephanie

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does a lot of work

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with elite athletes , so

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we'll talk a little bit about that . There's

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so much we're going to unpack in this episode

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. Stephanie had a crazy

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personal story . Right Like most

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of us who get into this field

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and really are understanding that bioregulatory foundational

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medicine , it's

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either us or a close family member that's had stories . I like to start that out . So , stephanie , thank

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you for being here and maybe tell us a little bit about your

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story .

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Yeah , my pleasure for being here . I'm same

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as you . Just want to get all

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of this information because I was already in functional

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medicine as a chiropractor , but

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I had my own story which I'm going to go into

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. But I still didn't really tie

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it all together until I got sick for the second

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time , while I already had this

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knowledge . So I had dove

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deeper into functional medicine because

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in 2010

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, I had this severe

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feeling of being hijacked and , just like

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everyone else , if you really do a history , you can go down

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into childhood . I was allergic to everything

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. I couldn't even wear plastic

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diapers . At the time . My parents

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were using cloth diapers and that was definitely

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not trending . Then I couldn't drink from

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a plastic bottle . I had

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to have glass because I would break out all over

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my face . Even then , you can see that there

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was like as a baby , I needed

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the detox . So

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I made my way through my teenage years

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. But then in 2010

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, it was a very stressful time . There's always that

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accumulating factors . It was the end

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of chiropractic college . I had helped

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my grandfather get a surgery and

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then the surgery went wrong because in Canada

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we had to move up the surgery . I knew some people

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and anyways , all of that stress

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came together and I felt like I

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got hijacked . I was sitting there watching a movie

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it was the last time I've been in a

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movie theater and I

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just became electric . I had severe

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anxiety come over me and the

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days following that were like the most torturous

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of my life , because I had zero idea about

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functional medicine , even though I was in or

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bioregulatory medicine , even though I was in chiropractic

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college right , because it's

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pretty basic once you learn more

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about the body and I had

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. I woke up the next day , bell's palsy

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. I rushed to the hospital . My

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gut was a mess . I always had gut issues

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, but this was like incontinence

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all of a sudden , pure blood coming out of my

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body and

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these neurological symptoms

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just kept up

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and they were just sending me home , calling it psychosomatic

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. Oh , maybe no one tied anything together

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. So fast

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forward . That's how I found functional medicine , because

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they finally started taking me seriously . I was tentatively

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diagnosed with multiple sclerosis at that time

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and it

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was only that's how I found functional medicine

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. I found Dr Terry Walls and

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she had , and at first I was just using diet

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. I cut out gluten . I got a bit better . Then

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I found someone else that was doing parasites . I did

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not do my first parasite cleanse properly

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. I was in bed for 48 hours because

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I had zero energy

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, I had no binders , I was just like went

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rogue , but it did end up helping me . But I think the thing to tie it in for your

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podcast was then you start looking back after you

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learn more . And at that time

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I had my wisdom teeth out very

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late . I was in chiropractic and they're like , oh , you

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really need to get them out , and I was like okay , and

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then of course I get this major complication called

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dry socket into the two bottom

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teeth , which is one of the ways that certain

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bacteria can get introduced to your bloodstream

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, and so that was one

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thing that had happened around . Then . I

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also got a root canal done around then

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because there was a missed fracture in

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one of my teeth and

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there were . I got bit by a bed

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bug , like who knows . But all of these things

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can introduce different pathogens into

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your body and but like

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the mouth and my mouth story has

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been huge and it really highlighted

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to me just how powerful the

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mouth is and got me really interested in the whole

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collar up infection . I heard your

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talk also in the

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midst of all of this really at Cellcor

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and it all just started coming

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together and for 10

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years , after 2010 , I

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was fairly healthy . I could lower my toxic load

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, regulated my immune system and my inflammation

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. Quite enough with after I

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found cell core and after I had

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lowered my pathogenic load and I

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was thriving . In 2021

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, two weeks before my health

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crashed worse than it did in

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2010 . I had said I feel

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the healthiest I have in my adult life

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, so I felt

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vital . I said I feel vital , I feel

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joy , all of those things . And

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then I'm working and it was

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stressful during COVID . But I

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was in the States and it so

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turns out that and everything I look at retrospectively

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and it made me really dive into research

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on things . But they had just turned on

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in Las Vegas something called 5G+

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, so already 5G

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was stressing our bodies , but they even made these

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man-made frequencies damaging EMFs

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that much stronger

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there . So it was that exact weekend

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, number one . Number two I was exposed

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to the virus which I hate

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talking about the actual name , but we all

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know what it is and I

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was treating patients who also had just

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been vaccinated . I had this cumulative

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effect , and I talk about that because once I got

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home and did a live blood cell

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. I had a virus in every cell . My

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immune system was completely shut down . The waste

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that was in my body was high . But what happened there

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in Las Vegas was my

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heart went into tachycardia . I

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was having severe PVCs . I was having

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heart attack like symptoms . I

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never had the cardiovascular involvement

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. Plus I had the gastrointestinal issues

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. On top of all

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of the neurological issues came back

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. Things I didn't talk about that were

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a very big problem was fasciculations

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like muscles twitches all over my body , the

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feeling of trapped electricity in my body

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discharging a lot of static

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electricity , so shocking everything that

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I touched . And then they put

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a wireless heart monitor on me . The cardiologist

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in Las Vegas my body short-circuited

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that

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wireless monitor . They still are trying to collect

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$13,000 from me or something

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like that , and this is something

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that stands out for me . The girl was putting it on . She goes

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. Some people are falsely reporting

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that they're feeling pain

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from having this on and I should have

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clued in because I'm in this . But I was in

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such a state of fight or flight and

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my clinic's called the Vegas Clinic because I got really

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interested in the vagus nerve , because mine felt hijacked

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. I talk about the hijacking of my vagus

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nerve all the time and I feel like it was hijacked by

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this toxic load Right and

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and then that I , after the

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wireless heart monitor was on me I'm talking

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that night while I had it on before

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I short-circuited it the most terrifying

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dreams that you could ever like

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, and almost while I was awake , still hallucinations

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and all of this . And then getting home was

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terrifying because my heart was still going crazy

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, but I was trying to get back to Canada and

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anyways , that started a two-year journey because

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after that heart rate monitor , every

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organ got into pain . So it's like it gave

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the bugs just a chance that they

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, my immune system tanked enough that

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they just all took over my body and I had

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Lyme in every organ . My kidneys

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were damaged . I had protein in my kidneys , blood

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in my urine , my liver was like

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10 out of 10 . Pain and aching into

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my eye . My eyes swelled up . I've

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been , I was in pain in every single

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part of my body , along with pain

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in my heart , down my arms , sense of impending

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doom , the most terrible that

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you can picture feeling and the most fearful

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. It is everything

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that I felt in that moment , and it was

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through the

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help of my smart colleagues like

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to get me out of that acute situation

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, because I went to the ER thinking

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I was dying like four times and I hadn't

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used conventional medicines since 2010

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. So that was a really long

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story and there's a lot to unpack

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there , but I'm trying to get

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it into a package that is

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digestible . But there's lots I missed within there

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as well .

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So I think

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one really important point

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that you bring up was going

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back in your history , right

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? We always talk about all the time our proverbial bucket getting full and overflowing

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. So , as you mentioned , I think this is really important for all of us to understand is that , you

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know , we don't , although it feels like

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for you especially . You said you felt so vibrant and

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then all of a sudden you get sick , right

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, but in fact it's , you

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said , even as a child , perhaps your mother

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had all these toxins , right , and I think we don't realize

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. When we're pregnant we pass a lot

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of our toxins , right

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. Fetus is a great toxic load dump

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to sites . It's common

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for the firstborn male child to

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have autism . So the firstborn

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child gets most of that toxic load

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is one of the hypotheses . Perhaps

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, and maybe estrogen is somehow protective

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, I don't know . That's why it's more common in males

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. And they're saying now babies are being born

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with their buckets already half full . There's studies

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showing they've tested umbilical cord blood

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in the babies 200 plus chemicals

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and stuff in their body before they take their first breath . So

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, this is why I think we're seeing that chronic

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epidemic of disease so

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much earlier . Right , you see so many

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children who are already labeled

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as obese . All these children , they're

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having to redefine the diabetes

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paradigm , right , because it used to be adult onset

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, now it has to be diabetes type

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2 , because children are

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already having this . So that's

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an important factor is what happened

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in our early life . That sensitizes

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, so you couldn't even have

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anything plastic , right , so sensitize

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. And the other important

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thing is and going through chiropractic

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, you understand the way to eat Exercise

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, obviously important to you . When

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you're going through any kind of doctorate , post-grad

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program . It's stressful , right , there's

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studying all the time . You're probably

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not eating as well as you can , maybe not as

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much , and so that kind of adds

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. But then the thing I'd like to

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unravel a little more is this whole

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idea of EMFs . All right

10:48

, so we've got this little

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load , so talk to me a little

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bit about what exactly are

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these , how these EMFs are affecting

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our body .

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I dove into this , like I said , because one thing I

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started seeing and not just with myself , because

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I always apply it to the people I'm working with was

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I started seeing really other healthy people having

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these severe heart problems , and

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some of them didn't have the

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virus . Some of them were

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vaccinated , some of them weren't vaccinated

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. So I was like , if I remove that for

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just right now as the cause , maybe

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it's adding something to it . What

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else has changed in the environment and

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in March 2020 is when they actually started

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putting up all the 5G towers and they slowly rolled

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it out without really giving

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anyone a heads up . It's a man-made

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frequency . So I always tell people like

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in our field , we know frequencies can be healing

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and they can be harmful , right . So we know

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that there's such thing as rife frequencies , where you

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can apply frequencies to the body and make someone

11:45

more healthy . A lot of people talk about grounding

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, because you can go outside and touch the ground

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and it's a frequency that helps

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you dispel bad frequencies

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. You can absorb electrons from the earth . We're

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privy to that information when I

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hear a new man-made frequency is coming

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out , when even frequencies

12:03

that being harnessed so , say , 4g

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was a radio wave that's already been harnessed

12:09

, right . So or now it's been harnessed

12:11

but it already existed . So let's say our

12:13

body could handle that a little bit better , but

12:15

still it was damaging , right , having it

12:17

on your phone , coming straight

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at you . We saw health changes , without

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their studies showing that , holding

12:24

the phone against your head . All of that even before

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there was 5G

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. So now we have a man-made frequency

12:31

that acts more like a direct wave . So

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it's not scalar or a radio

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wave , it's not coming at you at

12:38

different directions , it's humming

12:40

straight at you . So I say , picture it like

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a laser beam , because that's easier , humming straight

12:44

at you . So I say , picture it like a laser beam , because that's easier

12:46

. So

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the reason that they say that it's safe for humans is because it can only access a few centimeters

12:53

deep or millimeters deep in your skin . So they did research showing

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the way that this wave is actually

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accessing our cells is through

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our sweat glands that act like almost these antennas

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. So it is actually getting access

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to our body and one

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of the biggest problems that they're seeing , or

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one of the biggest when it comes to the cardiovascular

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side the problems are huge and multiple

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in our body is does not act

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in separate parts . Everything

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affects everything but the voltage-gated

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calcium channels . Because what I started seeing

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was anyone who's

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having these heart symptoms . Their serum calcium

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was through the roof . Even if I did a more

13:30

panel that showed ionic

13:32

calcium and balanced it for pH and

13:34

all of that , their calcium was too

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high when they were having these flares

13:39

of symptoms , including myself . So

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calcium being the most tightly regulated

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molecule , nothing that you

13:46

really have seen fluctuating so much in

13:49

the past . And then you start reading

13:51

about 5G and how it affects

13:53

our voltage-gated calcium channels

13:56

. But it's creating this influx

13:58

of calcium , right . So that's hyperstimulatory

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. So tachycardia , pvcs , all

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of that . But then when calcium , if

14:05

too much goes into the cell because the voltage-gated

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calcium channels open up and let it in , it

14:10

actually damages the cell , because all our cells

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need balance , just everything else in

14:14

our body . So then this is my theory

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is that the cell wall gets damaged , leaking

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out of the calcium but also waste

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and everything . So it's like this overload

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on the system . And we saw that because

14:25

we saw the liver being overloaded

14:28

in people having similar symptoms . Because you

14:30

start to attract people with the similar symptoms

14:33

and I started saying , okay , I have Lyme

14:35

carditis because my Lyme was

14:37

through the roof and then Bartonella

14:39

came up Babesia , right , but it's this toxic load

14:41

, because another thing we talk about is

14:43

, like this , pleomorphism right For

14:45

bugs , which is they can be shapeshifters

14:48

. So what they also found

14:50

with 5G is how it interacts

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with these pathogens that we all have

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in harbor is that

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it makes them more either irritated

14:58

or more strong , that they give off more toxins

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or can lower our and make

15:03

our inflammation or lower our immune

15:05

system enough that these pathogens

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can take over more . So I clearly had

15:10

these pathogen load , and I only retrospectively

15:13

learned that I

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had textbook neuroborreliosis

15:19

in 2010 and Lyme

15:21

had re-emerged . And when I talked

15:23

about the root canal , spirochetes

15:25

can live in your mouth , but once they get introduced

15:27

to your bloodstream , that's when they became a problem

15:29

. So is that what happened then ? Was it from the

15:32

bug I got bit by ? I don't know . Do I

15:34

need to know that exactly ? No , but

15:36

I know that's something I had to get rid of

15:38

. But

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then I had , like textbook Bartonella symptoms right , which are heart symptoms . But when they looked

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at my blood , everything was sitting

15:45

there and this was the thing that I've seen

15:47

and became profound to me there

15:50

was mold , there was

15:52

Bartonella , there was Babesia , there was

15:54

Lyme , there was like an overload of unnamed

15:57

parasites in my live blood cell and

15:59

my immune cell was sitting there not

16:02

doing anything . So your

16:05

body stops keeping up with that load and

16:07

that's when you end up like feeling

16:10

how I felt which I do not wish

16:12

on my worst enemy

16:14

to ever feel that , but lots of people

16:16

are feeling these symptoms and

16:19

then once you get , once you tip over the

16:21

edge into that . It took me two years

16:23

to get to feeling like a

16:25

semi-normal person and

16:27

I've never felt , even

16:30

through all this in 2010, . I've never felt suicidal

16:33

or depressed or that

16:36

severe anxiousness , except for in those moments

16:38

, and that's where it was like . Another aha moment

16:40

for me was like I talk about the

16:43

vagus nerve and , yeah , you can do these stim and stuff

16:45

, but toxic load is the

16:47

biggest thing affecting our nervous systems

16:50

right now and all

16:52

this EMF . But I don't even know if I answered

16:54

the EMF stuff , but it's .

16:57

And what I want to backtrack a little bit . We'll unpack

16:59

some of that . When you talk about all that calcium

17:01

, so where we see that in dentistry

17:04

is the buildup of Turner right

17:06

, people come in all the time and they say , because

17:08

when you have all this excess calcium , as

17:10

you said , if it's not balanced with vitamin K

17:13

, magnesium vitamin . A will

17:15

precipitate into the soft tissues

17:17

and so in the mouth we see

17:19

that that's tartar and people all the time will say , oh yeah , I build

17:22

tartar , my mother had no , so

17:24

okay , it's common . I say this all the time

17:26

. Right , something may be common doesn't

17:28

make it normal . And so when we

17:31

see that we're like there is a calcium metabolite I

17:33

had a patient just yesterday he's like going

17:35

in to get his parathyroid removed

17:37

because it's calcium and I'm like , wow

17:40

, and I'm not a doctor so

17:46

I can't say don't do it . But he is also . I'm questioning this and one of my biggest

17:48

compliments I love and I had two patients just yesterday come to me and ask me these health

17:50

questions because they know I

17:52

know they're questioning these MDs

17:54

because it doesn't feel right to them , because

17:56

the MDs not everyone I don't want to categorize

17:59

everyone- but unfortunately our system

18:01

is set up where here's the symptom

18:03

, here's the drug or surgery , and oh

18:06

, I love it . These people come to me and they're like , what do you think

18:08

? And so he was questioning . He said that seems

18:10

drastic , Like why and I said , have they tried

18:12

to figure out , like why is that

18:14

? What kind of blood work and what kind of testing

18:17

have they done to try to figure out why

18:19

these levels are out of control ? Because , as you mentioned

18:21

, a lot of calcium that's dangerous

18:24

, very dangerous . So , when we see all

18:26

that turd buildup , the first thing we're thinking

18:28

about okay , again , we need to balance

18:30

your minerals . You got a mineral imbalance

18:32

yes , Because we know

18:35

toxicity , right . Cell corollary

18:37

toxicity causes deficiency . Well

18:39

, right . And the other point that you

18:41

talked about , right , was this overload

18:44

, and I love that you said that live blood

18:46

analysis , right , your immune cell was just sitting there

18:48

and this is exactly what happened to me too

18:50

. So you get so overlaid you ? Actually

18:52

, because our mitochondria we've talked

18:54

about this before on the podcast can be in

18:56

energy production mode or

18:59

defense mode , but it can't really do

19:01

right . So that's why fatigue is such

19:03

a common symptom . We get so overloaded with

19:05

these bugs . It shuts down the mitochondria and

19:07

the immune system is suppressed . And

19:10

so these might be people like myself , but like I never

19:12

get sick , like wearing it like a badge of honor

19:14

which maybe not necessarily

19:17

. That's a great thing . I went to all these energy

19:19

practitioners and they're like we need

19:21

to boost your immune system , we need to get oxidative

19:24

therapies to jumpstart

19:26

your immune system , and that's why parasites

19:28

overgrew in my system . That's why they

19:30

overgrew in my system , because my immune

19:33

system was like I'm out , I'm tired , I can't

19:35

, I'm out , I don't have enough energy to

19:37

deal with this stuff . So that's a really

19:39

important factor . We need that immune system

19:42

and we also know that

19:44

, like I said , it's Lyme , all these co-infections

19:47

, parasites . They've been around since the

19:49

beginning of time , so why

19:51

are they suddenly seem so much more virulent

19:54

? So

19:57

many more people are having problems associated with them and again , a lot of it , I believe

19:59

, has to do with these man-made frequencies

20:01

, right ? So when you're talking about grounding

20:03

and I felt so terrible yesterday I'd

20:05

barely made it through the day at work and I came home

20:07

and I just crashed and I went and

20:09

I turned on my PEMS

20:12

map Pulse Electromagnetic Frequency Map which

20:14

is low frequency , healthy

20:17

energies . It took a ton

20:19

of Antronax by Standard Process

20:22

, which is like a liver producing , and their immunoplex

20:24

handfuls of it , and I

20:26

went to bed and I woke up in the morning . I'm like I

20:28

feel amazing . I sweat like crazy . I had to

20:30

pee but the chip was off me . But

20:32

it went out all the toxins because I had that good

20:34

frequency , but it went out all the toxins because I had that good frequency , and I also used

20:36

a Brown's gas machine , which is like hydrogen

20:39

gas .

20:39

Oh yeah , I love that .

20:40

And I feel like a totally brand

20:42

new person today . But

20:51

when we talk about the 5G , that I try to explain to patients

20:53

is like our cells . The heaviest metal wrap music at the highest

20:55

level of sound right . That's

20:57

what EMFs feel like to ourselves . We

21:00

can't feel it , we can't see it , we can't

21:02

hear it and , like you said , that

21:05

creates and there's been plenty of studies that prove

21:07

that makes mold give off more

21:09

mycotoxins . Exactly that makes

21:11

everything much more virulent . It also

21:14

, you mentioned , creates a lot of anxiety

21:16

because of our nervous system . Again , it's

21:18

like that heavy metal to our nervous system . How

21:21

many teenagers , mine included , who

21:24

have such anxiety and depression

21:26

? Yes , we can blame it on social media . Where

21:29

does social media come from ? Wi-fi devices

21:31

, high schools today . I just

21:33

had a meeting at my kid's school

21:35

today . We were talking about my daughter , you know , having

21:38

so much anxiety . Three different

21:40

practitioners have told me in the last two months

21:42

that EMFs are really negatively impacting

21:44

her nervous system . Go in that school

21:47

and it's just like well fine

21:49

routers everywhere Every kid has a laptop

21:51

, so Wi-Fi is beaming them constantly

21:54

. So , you can't tell me that these behavioral

21:56

problems and these kids and this anxiety isn't

21:59

related right to the technology

22:01

. So I think a hundred percent . So

22:03

, like at home , we have everything wired In

22:05

my office no Wi-Fi allowed

22:07

, yeah exactly

22:10

New wire ? Yes , we do

22:12

, because the kids got so upset . We have

22:14

to have what's going to happen when our friends come over . I'm

22:16

like they won't get poisoned , they'll sleep really

22:18

well , it'll be good , but it's tough

22:20

because this is the environment

22:23

we live in . About the

22:25

vagus nerve and I've done a ton

22:27

of research into this too , because I think

22:29

for my own journey I

22:41

tend to be type A and high stress

22:43

and for me , learning

22:45

how to calm my nervous system

22:48

, switch into the parasympathetic

22:50

I believe you're not going to heal . You

22:52

can eat the best diet , exercise all you want

22:54

, but if you're not in a parasympathetic

22:56

state , none of that really matters

22:58

, right , and so maybe

23:01

tell us , remind us all , what

23:03

is the vagus nerve role and

23:06

how is that helpful in healing from

23:08

these chronic issues yeah

23:11

.

23:11

So , like you mentioned , it's in charge of our parasympathetic

23:13

. So if people that are listening

23:15

don't know what that is , it's our rest and digest

23:18

side of our nervous system . So if

23:21

you're in a stressful state , which humans

23:24

are the only creatures

23:26

that , with their own thoughts , can

23:28

put themselves into a sympathetic state , which

23:30

is you can think of something that happened to

23:32

you years ago and you're busy , all physiologically

23:35

have the same responses in your body

23:37

as like when it was happening , like

23:40

where we can ruminate these thoughts

23:42

and put ourselves into this stressful situation

23:44

which changes , like our bodily

23:46

processes

23:48

changes's

23:53

when you're digesting

23:55

and all the blood flows go into your organs

23:57

and your body's working on its immune system

24:00

. And when you're in the sympathetic , all

24:02

of your blood flows going to your muscles

24:04

and it's trying to escape from something , and so

24:06

your other bodily processes shut down

24:09

, and that includes , like digestive system

24:11

, all of that . So if you think of even

24:13

when people are eating and they're in a rush

24:15

, like how well they're digesting their food

24:17

, all of that comes and ties together . But

24:20

the vagus nerve needs

24:22

to be massaged , I

24:25

think manually . I think with our

24:27

thoughts , I think with different frequencies

24:29

that affect the vagus nerve , because

24:31

we are inundated with

24:33

signals and with toxins in our

24:35

own body that are turning on our sympathetic

24:37

state right , without us even knowing . We can

24:39

feel like we're resting and we're

24:42

not . So a big thing for me , for

24:44

healing the vagus nerve is lowering

24:46

the toxic load . So there's that actually

24:49

having someone help you and

24:51

discern what's going on with you and helping

24:54

you get that toxic load down Right

24:56

. And obviously part of that a

24:58

big thing that , when I got into this , was like the whole

25:00

gut brain connection , right . So the vagus nerve

25:03

is the 10th cranial nerve . It's known as the

25:05

wandering nerve because it's the longest cranial

25:07

nerve . So cranial nerves are nerves that come off of

25:09

our brain or our brainstem and they leave

25:12

to innervate through foramen in

25:14

our skull , to innervate either

25:16

the face or wherever it is . But they

25:18

have multiple functions

25:20

. They're very important because we talk about above

25:23

the collar and how it controls the

25:25

rest of our body . But the vagus nerve has a direct connection

25:27

to the gut as well , right , and the gut

25:29

is our connection to the outside world

25:32

. So every time we eat

25:34

all of those toxins our gut needs to

25:36

be intact so they don't get through

25:38

. But things can take like a free ride

25:40

and hitch a ride to our brain from

25:42

our vagus nerve . So our gut is really important

25:44

to have that gut integrity and that

25:46

goes along with again lowering

25:49

your toxic load . But when

25:51

we talk about okay . So now , when

25:54

I was in the state where I was in , where I'm in fight

25:56

or flight , a hundred percent

25:58

severe anxiety , I

26:00

needed stuff that stimulated my actual

26:02

nerve to just help me boost

26:05

into it , because there was no breathing

26:07

or thinking . I was breathing shallow . You're trying

26:09

to force it but it wasn't . Vagus nerve stim

26:11

is one thing that has helped me a lot

26:13

. Do you use any vagus nerve stim or

26:15

have any ? No

26:18

, you can externally

26:20

stimulate the vagus nerve and that

26:22

will jolt you into kind of the rested state

26:24

. It's just giving it that little push that it needs

26:26

. Sometimes I teach a lot of people about

26:28

the lymphatics as well , because

26:31

all of your lymphatics have to clear through

26:33

your thoracic duct and through your lymphatic

26:35

duct . Okay , and so if there's

26:37

a trachycegeum , our vagus nerve is

26:39

most superficial in

26:42

our neck , in the front of the collarbone , all where

26:44

that toxin load builds up here

26:57

and release the lymph nodes around here to open it up so that it

26:59

can clear and you're not getting the physical building of the toxins over

27:01

your vagus nerve and that can be really relaxing

27:04

.

27:04

And then obviously there's I'm going to pause

27:06

here one second and , as Stephanie is saying

27:09

, 20% of our lymph is in that

27:11

neck area . Right , when you have

27:13

a infected

27:15

wisdom tooth , when you get

27:17

that dry socket . So dry socket is when

27:19

the blood clot comes out prematurely

27:22

, exposes the underlying bone , has

27:24

a ton of nerves there . So it's incredibly painful

27:27

but eventually that might heal

27:29

over . The tissue , might heal over

27:31

right . But there remains a hole

27:33

in the bone and this is where we can get

27:35

the term cavitation or osteonecrosis

27:38

of the jaw . And

27:41

that hole is a wonderful

27:43

place for the Lyme bacteria

27:45

, the parasites , the fungus , the bacteria

27:48

to go and sit , because now there's no longer

27:50

blood supply there . And so the

27:52

immune system can't surveil that area , so

27:54

all these bugs are like this is fantastic

27:56

. We can sit here , we can reproduce . All

27:59

of their toxins are leaching

28:01

out through the lymphatic system and

28:04

then draining , like right into the

28:06

neck , which , as you said , the vagus

28:08

nerve comes from behind the ear and

28:10

follows right along that whole jawline

28:12

. So bacteria that's in . If you

28:14

have gingivitis or gum disease , periodontitis

28:17

, you have an infected wisdom tooth

28:19

there that never heal . Root canal teeth

28:21

we know 100% of root canal teeth , whether

28:23

or not your body's going to react to it , but

28:26

it's a dead organ , so it is going to

28:28

harbor some microbes and stuff

28:30

like that and so all of that , like

28:32

you said , you maybe feel calm , but if

28:34

you're constantly draining all of those

28:36

bugs , it's infecting

28:39

the vagus nerve but also

28:41

, like you said , the cranial nerves there's 10 of them

28:43

, right . It can also crawl up those nerves

28:45

, those bacteria and all those microbes into the brain

28:47

. We know now there's very good

28:50

evidence how oral bacteria and

28:52

all these lead to dementia .

28:54

So it's really important . I always show that the

28:57

chart where it's showing the nerves from

28:59

the teeth going straight to the brain . So , just

29:01

like I said , with the vagus nerve from the gut

29:03

to the brain . And I'll tell a story maybe

29:05

now about my cavitation , because

29:08

I got my cavitation injected

29:10

, okay . So I was muscle tested

29:13

Okay , this is a huge problem Injected

29:15

with like some procaine mixed with some ozone

29:17

and some homeopathics

29:20

and , oh my gosh , the Herx reaction

29:22

I had after that was insane

29:25

, like I had to take so much binders

29:27

and I happened to have a dark field

29:29

microscopy the day after that and

29:32

I went there and I was feeling much better . Then I

29:34

got it injected and then I was static again

29:36

. I was so stressed

29:38

I was like jump

29:40

out of my skin kind of stress again . And

29:43

on that dark field what had happened

29:45

is it had triggered this release in

29:48

a good way and in a bad way . But all of these

29:50

biofilms were in , like

29:52

these gigantic biofilms , and

29:54

I have a picture of it . He's holy and then the

29:57

metals in my blood . He's like how are you standing

29:59

right now ? So it had the

30:01

power of that injection , had

30:04

caused a reaction in my whole body where

30:06

it was releasing and trying to purge stuff

30:08

and but the

30:10

biofilms were so big that they were clogging up

30:12

my kidney , like I was having kidney pain

30:14

, and the blood came back again . But

30:16

and then biofilms are also held together

30:18

by metal . So I knew I had to go hard

30:20

on binding the heavy metals at that

30:22

point and I didn't want to break down biofilms

30:25

further . But I did a lot of stuff my legs

30:27

on the wall , stuff like that to keep the

30:29

all of the stuff from building in the kidney . My

30:32

body calmed down and it your body will

30:34

put the biofilms away

30:36

from the kidneys and so I can just get over that

30:38

relief and know , yeah , I have to work on biofilms

30:40

now . But that was just a profound

30:43

change . And after I bound that up and

30:45

I took a step forward

30:47

in my healing . But it was just

30:50

another aha moment where you're like , wow

30:52

, this is such an obvious change in

30:54

the body from an injection in this tooth . That

30:56

was just systemic changes in

30:59

my entire body . So power

31:01

of the mouth and what's harbored

31:03

in there is , and I still have to

31:05

get my wisdom tooth habitation

31:07

really taken care of and I still have to get a root

31:10

canal out . Before we started recording

31:12

. I was telling you how , in March 2020

31:14

, that was actually my plan I had found a biological

31:17

dentist here in Kitchener , close

31:19

to where I live , and the plans were there

31:21

. I was going to do a ceramic implant if I had enough bone

31:24

and I was like , ok , I'm going to do this while I was still

31:26

healthy . And then everything

31:28

shut down right . Dentists weren't allowed to do work for

31:30

two years here . It was

31:32

wild . I'm in Canada , so

31:39

in that time my health crashed . I could have protected

31:41

myself from that . Maybe right .

31:42

But the interesting thing to say , so somebody

31:44

like you who has a history of a toxic

31:46

load this is why you were saying it's so important

31:48

to the first thing we got to do is reduce the toxins

31:51

. Reduce it by no more . So for

31:53

you , I think , also your drainage pathways

31:56

with all those biofilms . So before

31:58

, an important thing to know is like why you

32:00

don't want to just go to any dentist and

32:02

have this kind of stuff done , like you want

32:04

to ideally work with a biologic dentist , and

32:07

if that biologic dentist isn't as aware

32:09

of the foundational medicine , which

32:11

even a lot of biologic dentists

32:13

don't know it to the extent that we do , you

32:16

have to have a naturopath or a chiropractor like Stephanie

32:18

who understands you have to drain first

32:20

. This is why I love and maybe you two love

32:22

Cellcor , because their protocol

32:25

is so specific . You cannot detox

32:27

until you drain first , and I think this

32:29

was my problem for 10 years , boy struggling , I'd

32:31

fix one issue , right , one symptom and

32:33

then another one would come back because I kept just moving

32:36

toxins around , right , I had

32:38

a clogged liver . I always suffered

32:40

from more constipation , right , so I wasn't

32:42

really good at getting stuff out . When

32:45

you have this kind of history , you have to spend

32:47

a little bit of time really getting

32:49

, like you said , getting the lymph flowing . This is

32:51

the most common area , right , if you're in the

32:53

clavicle area right , like you said , a traffic

32:55

jam , so you're trying to expel

32:58

the bugs out of that jaw area . But

33:00

if you had a little bit of a traffic jam or those

33:02

bile films so that the lymph is so cloggy

33:05

, right , it's hard to move it on through , so

33:07

then it starts affecting all those organs . So

33:09

really important In fact , like we have . What

33:12

Steph is talking about is neural therapy , which

33:14

is one of my all time

33:16

favorite things . I've had just such

33:18

amazing results with it and I love it because

33:21

there's no side effects generally of your drainage

33:23

well , and it's just such

33:25

profound healing with no chemicals

33:28

or anything , because what we're doing , what

33:30

happened to you , is you stimulated your

33:32

own body to do the healing .

33:35

Your body was like oh , I got so much . My

33:38

body is like a hyper-releaser

33:40

, though , too . I react to things , but

33:42

I get better faster than most

33:44

people with the amount of toxic

33:46

load I have . But I can tell

33:48

you what worked for me very easily . I

33:51

can tell you every single thing I did and

33:53

the reaction I had and the way I troubleshooted

33:55

through it . And even though I had that big

33:57

reaction , what did I did and the reaction I had and the way I troubleshooted

33:59

through it . And even though I had that big reaction , what did I do ? That night ? I worked

34:02

crazy on my drainage right . I had castor oil mixed with

34:04

other lymph draining herbs . I

34:06

had immunocreme which has GCMAP

34:09

in it . I was working on my whole body . I was red

34:11

lighting , I was PEMF and

34:28

I got over that kind of herx quickly . But I feel like what ?

34:30

I'm learning is I'm having these exaggerated responses so I can help explain to my patients like

34:32

what's going on , because that's the only reason I can think why the world would torture . I believe

34:34

that too , like I was like

34:36

wow , if I had never had my eczema so bad , I would not be here today , we wouldn't be

34:38

having this conversation . Because that was my path was to help create

34:40

this awareness and help other people get

34:42

at the root of the problem . And because

34:44

we know so many people are

34:46

so frustrated with conventional medicine

34:48

today , because it's just not helping

34:51

with all this chronic stuff that we have today

34:53

. So another thing you mentioned

34:55

before we started recording was about your tongue

34:57

tongue release . So , layla , but

34:59

so many people . When I started doing neural therapy

35:01

, I started doing it a lot used per TMJ

35:03

issues , right and I noticed

35:05

like a lot of people got better , but there was

35:07

a smell subset who just yeah

35:10

, it wasn't that effective only for a short amount of time

35:12

. So that's where I was like , oh , do you have neck

35:14

and shoulder pain also ? So

35:16

then I started treating the neck , the shoulder

35:19

, the traps , all of that , and that was

35:21

like huge , huge , huge

35:23

. But then I started learning more

35:25

about hey , what about all this fascia stuff

35:27

? What ? is this fascia . That's

35:30

how I met Kelly and started learning about that and understanding

35:32

how the tongue is attached

35:34

by a . This is another thing . Just to go

35:37

back real quickly , when they talk about the EMF only

35:39

penetrating the skin hello

35:41

, getting connected to our entire body , the

35:43

fascia , I mean it's ridiculous . If anything

35:45

touches any part of our body , the fascia

35:47

is going to send that signal everywhere , right ?

35:49

Exactly .

35:51

But anyway . So tell us a little bit about

35:53

tongue ties and how that affects our shoulder

35:56

posture . All that good stuff .

35:58

If you look at even , there's a good picture

36:00

of , like , the tongue connected to that thick

36:02

fascial line all the way down to the soles of the

36:04

feet , which I even told you . I got my tongue

36:07

tie released , so I'm sure people

36:09

listening to your podcast know what a tongue tie

36:11

is there's . We were talking about how there's more obvious

36:13

ones when it's like more anterior , but

36:15

I had a posterior tongue tie like grade five

36:18

. Is that the worst it can be ? They said it was like a

36:20

four B to a five . I

36:22

barely had any tongue mobility and

36:25

I had chronic my

36:27

whole like . I was a chiropractor because my

36:29

neck was always messed up and I always needed treatment

36:31

Right , and then I'd be treating other people and

36:33

my neck would seize . That was like my biggest

36:35

thing . It was just always and there

36:38

was always , and think of how that does

36:40

for drainage . I also , of course , broke

36:42

my right collarbone and it

36:44

crossed over and it was the time that they didn't

36:46

fix it . There's already a drainage issue

36:48

all on my right and your right side drains your liver

36:51

. My liver's always been stagnated . I had liver

36:53

pain . That was when I first had

36:55

my bout of Lyme , then the second time , and

36:58

that was something that , even as I was getting better

37:00

and better , like my neck was still seizing

37:02

, my liver was always sore

37:04

, like just things

37:06

weren't draining well , and when you looked at my

37:08

tongue it started to make sense , like it was this

37:11

little nub but that couldn't reach . So

37:13

, anyways , I made the decision

37:15

. I did some of the myofunctional therapy

37:17

, which is like the strengthening , trying to strengthen

37:19

your tongue posture before there , and

37:21

then I went for the tongue tie release and

37:24

I had this immediate relief

37:26

in my body that I had , like

37:28

this feeling like I could breathe

37:30

, talk about feeling like your vagus nerve was

37:32

activated for the first time without

37:35

doing any deep breathing , I could

37:37

reach my toes , all of which I couldn't before

37:39

the procedure and

37:41

I was like , wow , this is going to help

37:43

me a lot . But then again my body

37:45

showed me here's the healing process . So I

37:48

ended up getting tons of scar tissue under my

37:50

tongue . It became very obvious

37:53

how much I wasn't draining from my right side

37:55

because of the cavitation

37:57

and the root canal that's on my right lower

37:59

jaw . I was puffed out here

38:01

. I had so much pain and pressure under

38:04

my chin . I was getting sharp shooting

38:06

pains throughout my body as the fascia unwound

38:08

, but didn't really know what to do with it . I wasn't able

38:10

to have a bowel movement . Normally I'm

38:13

not a constipated person , but my

38:15

bowel was used to being tighter together

38:17

and if you know how our muscles work , like actin

38:20

and myosin , they were usually more connected . So

38:22

I think everything just got stretched

38:24

out and

38:26

all of these symptoms came back and I

38:28

was like did I made the wrong decision ? This

38:30

was terrifying and no one

38:32

could answer me . I was like is this normal ? Like my

38:34

tongue was twice the size . I

38:36

had swelling under my tongue . I had a full list

38:39

and I'm talking , this is this is still three weeks

38:41

later . So they're going give it another day , give

38:43

it another day . And I have to start working

38:45

on , like , the fascia inside my mouth and

38:47

that's when I started working inside with castor

38:50

oil . I used mistletoe under

38:52

my tongue to break up the scar tissue . I

38:54

got neurotherapy under here to clear

38:56

it . I did all the manual stuff . My

38:59

colleague who we

39:01

worked together and she helped me so

39:03

much through everything with all the manual work

39:05

, dr Leah , she was working on

39:07

my tongue inside and outside and I was getting

39:09

this relief and slowly I started

39:11

to see the benefits of it and then I slept through

39:13

the night . For the first time I slept in . I

39:15

didn't wake up with morning anxiety . My

39:18

tongue started sitting in the right spot because

39:20

for the longest time , even after the tongue tie

39:22

, it was pulling it down . It was further

39:24

down than it was before , like my tongue

39:26

was not at the top of my mouth at all . And

39:29

if when you learn about myofunctional

39:31

and dentistry , like your tongue is supposed

39:34

to sit nicely in the roof of your mouth and

39:36

but just like how ? Cause

39:39

? I was feeling almost normal before I got the

39:41

tongue tie , then I got the tongue tie

39:43

release and all the symptoms came back again

39:45

and I had to learn I had another

39:47

crash course in lymph because I had

39:49

this lymphedema here . I had lymphedema

39:52

here and I , as I

39:54

cleared it , we felt the

39:56

symptoms subsiding . So I thought that was just

39:59

powerful . And now it's something

40:01

that has made the biggest change . I'm

40:03

not having neck pain , I'm

40:06

not having the liver pain . It's

40:08

given my body space to drain right . I

40:10

didn't have that space to drain the fascia . Everything

40:12

was just too tight , there wasn't enough space

40:15

, so there was physical traffic jams

40:17

and it's been profound . And now

40:19

getting out my root canal and stuff I assume

40:22

I'll do better with it than I would have done

40:24

with a tongue tie , because it has space to drain

40:26

.

40:27

Absolutely , and that's such an important fact

40:29

that we always skip over all the time was

40:31

this fascia , whatever I relate ? You

40:33

mentioned to you know in your other podcast

40:35

we do cadaver dissections in dental medical

40:37

school and we just cut it away , get

40:41

that out of there . So it's so important and I

40:43

think we're starting to learn more and more about

40:45

how absolutely important that

40:47

fascia is as a information

40:50

center . But that helps move

40:52

all the lymph and , as you said , yes , when

40:54

you don't have any space , you

40:56

can't drain , and that's where we start to get

40:59

symptoms . I've been . Sometimes I wake up in

41:01

my mid-back uh

41:03

, yeah it feels just , you know , tight

41:05

, not necessarily pain , just and as soon as I

41:07

stand up like it goes away . But I'm like

41:09

exactly nothing is draining

41:11

right there , so it's sitting all night long and I'm not

41:13

moving and it's just they

41:16

should do for my CFT appointment

41:18

and all kinds of things that I know . Between

41:21

traveling last week for eco and then

41:23

just I was just whammed at work

41:25

this week , they just were killing me and

41:27

so like I haven't really been moving as much

41:30

as I should , that makes a huge

41:32

difference and I think that

41:34

exercise , we think about it , it's good for

41:36

our heart , but movement in any

41:38

way , because we've got this lymph

41:40

, we've got to move out

41:43

and around and that's really a

41:45

big value .

41:46

But

41:48

even the lymph , like you said , our lymph

41:50

also moves electrostatically and

41:52

what happens when we have all these negative like

41:55

EMFs coming at us ? Right , it's

41:57

changing , like the frequency of our

41:59

fascia and our lymphatics , and people

42:01

are stagnated even when they have

42:03

space for it to move . But yeah , that pinpoint

42:05

, mid back pain , or if you wake up with low

42:07

back pain , when your hands are really

42:10

stiff , when you wake up you're not draining . Everyone

42:12

puts castor oil packs on their liver and that's

42:14

great . I got people to put castor oil

42:16

packs . They get a thyroid pack here and a thyroid pack

42:18

here Help

42:21

clear the heart , open the lymphatic ducts . I get people to learn how to treat

42:24

their own Because you can go for

42:26

an appointment , but that's once . If

42:29

you're lucky a month or a couple of weeks .

42:31

It has to be done daily . So a month or a couple of weeks , but like to be done

42:33

like daily . So what Stephanie was showing those of you who are listening

42:35

is both of us have those queen of thrones . I

42:37

really I like that they have . They make a little thyroid

42:39

. So the big castor oil packs or flannels you

42:42

know are larger , but queen of

42:44

thrones makes these little cute little thyroid

42:46

ones which

42:51

you can they're smaller . So she was putting it over almost the collarbone area . Right

42:53

, we have a lot of lymph nodes right underneath , right around all that collarbone

42:55

area and then the armpit area

42:58

. Huge Like women with breast

43:00

cancer they're not draining their lymph

43:02

, so all those toxins are building up in our

43:04

breasts and that's one of the major reasons

43:06

we get breast cancer . Got to

43:08

one of my favorite little things that he's called

43:10

a breast balm by I think it's

43:12

Banyan Botanicals . It's

43:15

an activated blend of castor oil plus a bunch of other

43:17

herbs . You just rub that

43:19

on your chest . I rub it on my armpits sometimes

43:21

even on my belly and liver . Smells really

43:23

good . And again when you're sleeping

43:26

and you're laying there and not moving . That's

43:28

where you get a lot of stagnations . Put

43:30

that on before bed .

43:31

Help things move a little bit , you'll have

43:34

your those aches and pains , I think

43:36

yeah , you talk about how it

43:38

builds up in the breast and I have another

43:40

because I told you , my body like

43:42

exaggerates every kind of response

43:44

and I had done a lot of killing

43:46

and I guess it got backed up . My

43:48

I had a double d left

43:50

breast and I had

43:53

my normal , normal right

43:55

breast and your left side drains

43:57

75% of your body and

44:00

it was so painful

44:02

and I was trying the manual stuff and

44:04

it wasn't clearing and the bigger the pressure

44:07

got in the left breast , the more

44:09

pressure I had on my heart and the more heart

44:11

symptoms I had , so lots of PVCs . So

44:13

there's this structural component

44:15

that everyone's getting these heart palps and

44:17

stuff and a lot of it because the deep lymph

44:20

doesn't show up again . My body was showing me

44:22

quite obviously that I had severe

44:24

lymphedema and I had specific

44:26

bugs that really slow down your lymphatics

44:29

, on top of all the EMF . And I

44:31

actually went that day for

44:33

neurotherapy in an emergency

44:36

kind of setting because I felt

44:38

like I couldn't breathe with the amount of pressure . And

44:41

so neurotherapy , which we just

44:43

talked about . When they inject like procaine , they

44:45

did pearls around here

44:47

and relieved my neck and did some

44:49

other injections , like in the emotional

44:52

heart , and all of a sudden

44:54

I had this wave of intense

44:56

heart pain and then I had so

44:58

many PVCs in a row I thought I would faint

45:01

, okay , and it was my

45:03

breast deflating . I literally

45:05

went back to almost normal . I have

45:07

a before and after picture with my nipple

45:09

blurred out , but it's just like you look at that and

45:12

you're like nipple

45:16

blurred out . But it's just like you look at that and you're like holy crap

45:18

, talk about this physical traffic jam . And once we opened it up with that procaine and it

45:20

has to reenter the circulatory system to get out

45:22

, my heart just was going

45:24

through so much stress trying to clear all

45:26

that lymph . And then I

45:28

could breathe after and I felt like 90%

45:31

better and then I could work through the rest

45:33

of the lymph that was left . But

45:35

I had these crazy

45:38

lymphedema . I had crazy lymphedema

45:40

also in my right groin

45:43

lymph nodes and we

45:45

did the Frankenhausen injection for

45:48

neural therapy and I had a similar

45:50

symptom where I thought it would faint . Everything

45:52

was crazy , a little bit blurry , and

45:55

then you saw the swelling go so much

45:57

down the next day and then , like my digestion

45:59

started . It's so I've had , like I said

46:01

, I'm a hyperreactor and like I'm a

46:03

. I give a lot of symptoms but like

46:06

there's a lot of relief with these things

46:08

and the practitioners that are injecting

46:10

me , they get a lot of joy of working with me

46:12

because it's these crazy changes that you

46:14

can use to highlight how

46:16

powerful these therapies are , but that was

46:18

one of the therapies that helped me a ton . But I

46:22

didn't know anything about bioregulatory medicine

46:24

until this second bout of what

46:26

I went through and that's when LDAs

46:28

and LDIs changed my life

46:30

because I had this chronic sinusitis

46:32

. That low dose immunotherapy was

46:34

something that changed my immune system

46:36

and gave it the kind of boost it needed

46:39

and lowered the toxins it needed . So that's like

46:41

a homeopathic-like treatment

46:43

, and the mold one or the environmental

46:45

toxin one was the one that made a huge

46:47

change , just to show and highlight

46:50

again how potent

46:52

these chemicals and environmental allergens

46:55

can be on our body , especially when our immune

46:57

system decides to shut down

46:59

for a while stuff

47:01

works great and in the us and

47:03

just shutting down it is so hard

47:05

now to find these homeopathics .

47:07

It's really very frustrating for

47:09

those of us who know it's worse than canada . Canada

47:12

and they're so helpful with no side effects

47:15

, and it's frustrating because they work

47:17

great . That's what I love with my neural therapy

47:19

is using some vitromial zeol . The

47:21

lymph drain one is key because

47:23

as you're seeing , how much

47:25

we get so clunky lymph and

47:28

really interesting , I know , in the last few years

47:30

I've seen so many patients with

47:32

these heart issues and I always always

47:34

say , oh so , is it the vaccine , is it the toxin

47:36

that they needed the vaccine for ? But

47:39

that's what I'm interested in , what you're talking about , because

47:42

they've done a lot of pathology reports . Right

47:44

, they're showing these huge blood clots , or

47:46

are they big parasites or what are they

47:48

? Imagine if we're getting these huge

47:50

clots in not only

47:52

our circulatory system but also in

47:54

the lymph system , maybe

47:56

we need a lot more . This is giving me

47:58

thought , for , oh , she's going to be talking a lot

48:00

more about lymph draining where these heart stones

48:03

. So you're really making me think about that , and

48:05

most of us are very sedentary

48:08

and so , again , that's the only way we can

48:10

really effectively move that lymph and if it's already

48:13

slunch , we need more of that

48:15

stuff . And our good friend Kelly Kennedy

48:17

she's the lymph queen . She's got lots of good

48:19

YouTube videos on all that good stuff . One

48:22

thing as we're getting close to the end , I do want to talk

48:24

a little bit about the glyphosate and the ligaments

48:26

. So you are a chiropractor . You work with a lot

48:28

of athletes . I've seen this just in my

48:30

own kids' friends , like how many

48:32

high schoolers are

48:35

tearing their ACLs ? And

48:37

it's just insane , and

48:40

years ago I had read about the glyphosate

48:42

which is round up , this ubiquitous

48:44

pesticide , herbicide . That's

48:46

on most wheat products but

48:49

everywhere . Now you mentioned

48:51

on another podcast like we're trying to eat all

48:53

organic and yet we can find so much

48:55

of this because now it's in the air , right

48:58

? So I don't even think true organic

49:00

exists anymore . There's not added

49:02

. It's like added sugars and natural

49:05

. It's just there and so

49:07

that's at least helping us prevent it

49:09

. But we can't avoid this anymore

49:11

. But tell us a little bit about really

49:14

why we need to get away from the graze

49:17

because of this glyphosate . How

49:19

is that affecting our ligaments ?

49:22

Yeah , our ligaments and our whole gut , which affects

49:24

our whole body because it preferably

49:26

kills our beneficial bacteria

49:28

and lets the pathogenic ones thrive . But

49:31

then the actual molecule of glyphosate

49:33

includes a molecule of glycine which

49:35

makes up our collagen , and I

49:38

think that our body tries to do the best

49:40

it can . It sees a glycine molecule , it tries

49:42

to build some collagen , but we got a kink in

49:44

the chain , so collagen's

49:46

not being built as healthy as it

49:48

was . And you talked about the tartar . But

49:50

also you calcify your tendons and you

49:53

calcify , you've got a double whammy

49:55

of something not being pliable

49:57

enough and you're going to get tears

49:59

and I've seen more tears than ever . Re-tearing

50:03

, failed surgeries it's

50:05

like you said , tearing . And really

50:07

people like I'm working with

50:09

elite athletes that are supposed to be the healthiest

50:11

in the world I have a whole story on how , why

50:13

they're not but it's

50:15

a big , huge problem because

50:17

and then you know , getting it out of the

50:19

tissue is quite challenging

50:22

and detoxing is very necessary

50:24

, lowering the dose as much as you can , getting those

50:26

good bacteria up . That can actually

50:28

help us detox it . We love things

50:31

like , obviously , cell cores , binders

50:33

, but replacing

50:35

the glycine , we use a lot of like single amino

50:37

acid therapies but we're seeing

50:39

like , yeah , just more

50:42

tearing than ever more unhealthy tissue

50:44

, but it affects everything , right

50:46

, even blood brain barrier , if you're

50:48

not having intact all of the collagen

50:50

around there . All of that . Everything

50:52

needs to be pliable . To be healthy we

50:55

need good microcirculation , which is getting

50:57

affected also by all the EMF . And

50:59

you know everyone's nitric oxide that we test

51:02

is super low and that's what gets like that

51:04

microcirculation places and you

51:06

know so . Yeah , there's multiple

51:09

reasons in glyphosate being

51:11

a huge one and it's a huge problem for so

51:13

many reasons and yet

51:15

it's banned in European

51:17

countries .

51:18

But here we are , they're sending

51:20

it all to us and it's embarrassing a

51:22

little , it's

51:25

one of the things that are allowed in North America

51:27

that Europe has been banned for decades

51:30

. Hopefully , maybe we'll get there . That's why we're doing

51:32

this right .

51:33

Even all the homeopathics that you can get in

51:35

Europe and all the treatments that some people that

51:38

are really bad . You've got to go to Europe

51:40

to get these cutting-edge treatments

51:42

. They're

51:46

trying to make everyone that talks

51:48

about what we talk about calling them quacks

51:50

or conspiracy theorists . When

51:52

you talk about something

51:54

that's not a conspiracy at all , you're talking about , this

51:57

is a man-made frequency . Whenever something

51:59

new is introduced , it should

52:01

be treated as an experiment . When

52:03

there's an experiment going on , what do

52:05

you do ? You write down every

52:07

side effect , you start to make hypotheses

52:09

, you try to figure out answers . Science

52:12

is gone , they're attacking

52:14

the wrong people and we're

52:16

left here working with what

52:18

we can when we know there's something

52:20

better , and that's just . It's

52:23

very frustrating for people

52:25

like us trying to get you the proper

52:27

answers and struggling our own

52:29

selves and our own families knowing that we're

52:32

getting exposed to these toxins

52:34

that could be avoided and then it could avoid

52:36

human suffering . What ? What happened

52:38

to caring about that ?

52:40

it's well and that's trying

52:42

to fight the powers that be . We know that's really

52:44

ineffective . Doing yeah like this is

52:46

creating where it's , because I feel like the only

52:48

way we really make real change is when the people start

52:50

demanding it . I was liking it in the gluten-free industry

52:53

five , ten years ago barely ago it barely existed

52:55

. Now it's a billion-dollar industry because people

52:57

started asking for it and buying it . So

53:00

the more people start questioning and

53:02

seeking I don't like the word alternative

53:05

healthcare . Different answers , right we

53:07

?

53:07

want to understand root cause medicine .

53:09

We got to go beyond functional and get to that

53:11

foundational what's happening at cellular

53:13

level , and

53:21

there are so many of us out there who understand it , but it's problematic for

53:23

us to be too loud , so just create that awareness People start

53:25

asking for it , and we know we're living in the light , in

53:27

the life . We're doing this because we

53:29

were put on the planet to be this

53:31

powerful force , and so we'll keep

53:33

going because we have each other , we

53:35

have a band and we know that what

53:38

we're doing is helpful and it works .

53:40

We're the canaries . Listen to us For

53:42

sure , we're the canaries , crazy .

53:46

So I would unpack a lot of

53:48

good stuff and maybe , as we finish

53:50

up here , give us a little bit more of

53:52

your tools , of how we tap into

53:55

that vagus . So you talked a little bit about

53:57

the stim tool , the toothpick . What

53:59

can you do with it ?

54:00

Oh yeah . So the toothpick again

54:02

came from my own experience because I

54:05

learned I do acupuncture as well

54:07

and dry needling and

54:10

you can tap certain places on your

54:12

body in your ear , the web

54:14

of your finger or your thumb , or you find in your

54:16

scalp , any place you're sensitive , over top

54:18

of the vagus nerve , because people use

54:20

that EFT emotional freeing tapping

54:22

and you can interrupt these kind of pathways

54:24

in your body . But when you have an even smaller

54:27

surface area which is like the toothpick , and

54:29

I was thinking , okay , I'm doing like pseudo acupuncture

54:32

and I started tapping these areas and I could find

54:34

myself calming down . And we use it now

54:36

for people to have tools in

54:38

case they do get symptoms when they're

54:40

somewhere . But you can do it daily

54:42

too to help calm down and you'll

54:44

feel the difference yourself . But you don't want to

54:46

hurt yourself , but it hurts a tiny bit , right

54:49

and , trust me , when your mind's going

54:51

through rumination , a

54:54

little tiny bit of pain to interrupt what's going on is not going to be bad . But

54:57

yeah , you can interrupt that flow of

54:59

energy and you'll see a huge

55:01

difference , calming yourself down . I

55:04

talked about the tongue release but you can do different

55:06

tongue postures and different massaging

55:08

, your own tongue exercises . Anything you do to get

55:10

the tongue more malleable really helps

55:12

the vagus nerve . There's upper cervical adjustments

55:15

, there's scalp work . There's anything that works

55:17

on your hands or like the fascia that can

55:19

pull down on the vagus

55:21

nerve is going to help you get

55:23

into that rest and state when you can't

55:25

get there physically . Breath work is obviously

55:27

huge . Breath work even

55:29

more so than meditation , because most people that are

55:32

in fight or flight aren't the greatest at meditation

55:34

. But

55:38

breath work is a very good place to start . The vagus nerve is in charge of the exhale

55:40

portion . So exaggerating your exhale when you're

55:42

breathing and when yogis

55:44

do the big oh or the big sigh

55:47

, that's going to turn on and have

55:49

you release acetylcholine . Acetylcholine is

55:51

the neurotransmitter for the vagus nerve that brings

55:53

you into that rested state . There's

55:55

eye movements that people use

55:58

. It's called far gazing . So if

56:00

you have your head straight and you

56:02

gaze with both eyes as far as you can over

56:04

to the right and you hold it there for

56:06

15 to 30 seconds , you'll start

56:08

to notice a calming feeling . You

56:10

can then do it to the left and you can

56:12

do that and you find the vagal

56:14

nerve exercises that help you . There's common

56:17

ones are gargling and

56:19

the gag reflex because it is in charge

56:22

of some of our swallowing mechanisms

56:24

and the voice box , so

56:26

different sounds that you can make , listening

56:29

to different sounds on 528

56:31

hertz , 256 hertz , even on

56:33

a YouTube , or binaural beats

56:35

, is when you have headphones on and you can hear them

56:38

going in both sides . There's something

56:40

called the safe in sound , which

56:42

is Dr Stephen Porges came

56:44

up with something called the polyvagal theory , which

56:46

we don't have time to go into , but pretty much they use

56:49

sound for healing and different

56:51

frequencies , like we talked about , like PEMF

56:53

, can tap into that red light

56:55

over your vagus nerve . So lots of people have

56:57

red light these days . You

57:00

can do it over your neck , across your chest

57:03

, over your belly , because there's so much innervation

57:05

of the vagus nerve that goes into your belly . Other

57:07

ones that people don't talk about a lot for activating

57:09

the lower part of your parasympathetics

57:12

is pedal pumping , so getting your

57:14

foot into dorsiflexion . There's

57:16

something called the hummingbird exercise and

57:18

that gets your sacral parasympathetics

57:20

. Those are the that does the lower

57:22

half of your bowel and can help calm

57:24

you down as well . There's even

57:26

just ocular pressure . There's something called

57:29

the cardio ocular reflex

57:31

. So just about a pound

57:33

of pressure on your eyelids can help calm

57:35

you down and go into the vagus nerve . And

57:37

then there's the deeper stuff , like finding to

57:39

working through trauma , clearing bad emotion

57:42

, which for me , you

57:44

know , I think when I was very

57:46

acute , that's the last thing that I could start

57:48

to work on . And here I am now right

57:50

, but I don't think it's somewhere where I

57:52

could have accessed when I was pretty

57:55

acute . Right , so we all have different levels

57:57

where we start so you can find things and

57:59

see what helps you

58:01

. But social connection nature

58:03

I didn't talk about circadian rhythm , working

58:06

on that like not having your overhead

58:08

lights on before you go to bed , getting morning

58:10

sunlight in your eyes that actually helps your

58:12

vagus nerve because when your circadian rhythm's in

58:14

tune and your cortisol's in tune , then

58:17

you have more access

58:20

to your parasympathetic and

58:22

just , yeah , connecting with other like-minded

58:25

people , hugs and oxytocin

58:28

and all of that . Yeah , I think we disconnected

58:30

too much . I think we have to connect

58:32

more and people who

58:34

are when they're , when you're in your sympathetic

58:37

state or you're in what they call

58:39

the dorsal vagal , which is that shutdown

58:41

or freeze state . You don't want to be around

58:43

people anymore and it perpetuates that

58:45

, that negative kind of feedback

58:47

. So finding like this

58:50

social aspect

58:52

of people you can trust and feel safe around

58:54

at first and then , once you feel healthy , that's

58:56

when you want to interact Right . So anyone

58:59

that's suffering right now because they

59:01

just get so stressed because they can't be around

59:03

, a lot of people just starting with a small group and

59:05

just connecting , you know , can be

59:07

huge . So I definitely didn't

59:09

cover all of them , but those are some things that

59:12

?

59:12

Yeah , that's fantastic . I like that hummingbird

59:14

. I'm going to look that one up . I

59:16

never knew about that one , and it's interesting that you

59:18

talk about the tongue . I didn't realize that either

59:20

. How a tongue movement really stimulates , I mean it

59:22

makes perfect sense that I never really thought about . I've

59:24

been really diving deeper . I've been trying

59:27

to do some laser treatment for snoring and sleep

59:29

apnea and

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it's good , it's helping stimulate collagen , but it's not the magic bullet , and so I've been doing

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a lot more research and to the breathing and the exercising , because I would

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notice that some people who have sleep apnea have

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a very large airway . Yeah , you

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have a narrow airway , don't have it . So it's not just

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anatomical . No right , it's not

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a lot of this is this nervous system

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it's the nervous system . So when you

59:53

, when you're , yeah , this tongue , I didn't think

59:55

about it , I just thought it was helping the tongue , but we're

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also stimulating that the nervous system

1:00:00

to be relaxed , because a lot

1:00:02

of people are . Tongue is one of the strongest muscles

1:00:04

in the body and a lot of us don't know how to use

1:00:06

it properly and a lot of us have the tongue

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tie . It's not getting the proper

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movement there .

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Same for 10 years when I was feeling quote unquote healthy and sleeping

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and all that I still had my tongue tie right , but the nervous system's

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getting affected so much that I feel like it's

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just shutting down . Even

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like breathing through your nose , like a lot

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of people , even though it's open , it's

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like swollen or something like deeper

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, what we can't see . So I

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had some things for that exercises

1:00:34

which are funny , and you make a pig nose

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and then

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you force air and then you squish your nose

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down as much as you can and

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then you breathe air and then you do single nasal

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things and I , I really I would feel

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my the crackling when the nose opens

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up , so you increase that nitric oxide

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and that was something out again

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out of crisis in the middle of the night , cause I'm like

1:00:55

, oh no , I don't want to have to go to the emergency

1:00:57

again . I know this is something I can deal with , right

1:00:59

, cause those were just really fight or flight nights

1:01:02

. I went four times to the emergency

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cause it was so bad and anyway

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, but there were plenty of nights . If I was an

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, if I was a person that didn't have the knowledge

1:01:10

I did , that those people would keep going

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. They're the people that go 20 times and

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just and being able to open that airway

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and I would inhale oxygen

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because I could at that time with the hydroxyl

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, and then I my symptoms will go away

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. So there's this whole nitric oxide component , which

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we didn't talk about , but that was a big thing

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for building . Nitric oxide for me was hugely

1:01:29

beneficial for my vagus nerve .

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It's huge , hugely beneficial for my vagus nerve . It's

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huge .

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Order that in the grapes Order to

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stimulate that .

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But you also have to have the healthy bacteria

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that can , and you're going to burn it right , yeah , so

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if you've got gum disease or whatever , any

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kind of dysbiosis , you're not going to be able

1:01:47

to . Interestingly , you said that a lot

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of your patients have low nitric oxide . I just did my

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full team plus their spouses , all

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of us there was 20 of us had low

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bacteria . That would even create nitric oxide . So I'm like

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oh , we got to work on that , we got to get some more of that

1:02:02

bacteria in now so that we can make nitric

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oxide .

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So we have you know .

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So , yes , it's all fascinating

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. We could talk for another two hours and maybe

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we'll have a part two , but thank

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you so much for coming on and sharing

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your incredible story with us

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. And so , even in that imagine

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in the height of her crises she is

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thriving . Now . She is young

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and beautiful and has this great practice . So

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1:02:29

bit more , how do they contact you or

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we can . Well

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