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Hello everybody and welcome back to another

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episode of the Root of the Matter . I'm

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your host , Dr Rachel Carver , and today

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we have Deanna Hansen with us , who

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is a pioneer in the field of fascial

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decompression for physical

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and emotional transformation . Deanna's

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been working for 20-plus years

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. She's created this amazing tool

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that we call block therapy , and

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I became interested and learned about Deanna

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after hearing her on my buddy Kelly

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Kennedy's podcast , and I

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went and Googled your website right away

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and I was like , oh , she has something for TMJ

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. Look at how wonderful , because so

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many of us suffer from issues in

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this joint and there aren't a

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lot of great solutions

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really . We have Band-Aids and

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we have guards and this , and that . I'm still

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always trying to understand what is the cause of

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this and how do we actually fix

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the problem versus just Band-Aiding things

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. So we have had my

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own craniofascial therapist on , so

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we've talked about fascials way

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back , like the second episode , though , so I would love

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for you to first introduce yourself , and

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then we'll talk again and remind us all what fascia

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is .

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Thank you so much , dr Carver , for having me here . It's

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an absolute pleasure to be sharing with their community and

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I just love diving into the world of fascia because

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it is literally the connector

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of every single cell in the body . So

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fascia is made of

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a combination of collagen

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and elastin and , when perfectly balanced

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, these two proteins create

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both mobility and stability

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in the body . So back a little bit

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about me . I was an athletic therapist

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, certified in 1995 , at

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the age of 25 and 54 now , and

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I was having

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some real struggles with my own personal

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health and my own body and as

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a result , I made some major changes

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by the time I was 30 . But these changes

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resulted in serious anxiety attack

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and it was this one anxiety attack in particular

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that was the seed of everything to come

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and how I really started to understand this tissue

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fascia and how it truly interconnects

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every single aspect of the body fascia

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and how it truly interconnects every single aspect of the body . In this moment of anxiety I actually

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thought I was going to die because I was locked away from my breath , frozen with

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fear . So for some reason I dove

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my hand deep into my abdomen and the

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first thing I encountered was pain . Now

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, I avoided ever touching this area

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because I was 50 pounds overweight

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, even though I was working really hard to

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have a healthy and fit body . Though

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I was really ashamed of this area

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, never touched it . Now here I'm , diving into

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it . The first thing I feel is pain , but

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the pain brings me out of my crazy thinking

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. I'm brought back to the ground . I recognize

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okay , you're breathing , you're safe . But then

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I continued to explore with my hand

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in this tissue and what was fascinating

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to me as an athletic therapist floor with my hand in this tissue and what was fascinating to me

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as an athletic therapist , always focusing on deep tissue work . I

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was very aware of what scar tissue felt like

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in bodies . Now

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, here I am in this tissue and it feels marbled with scar tissue , even though I haven't

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had any injury or surgery in this area . And suddenly I had all these aha moments

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. Wow , no wonder when I'm coming back from

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a five mile run dripping wet with sweat , my

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belly would still feel cold . And

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at the same time , I also started the practice of yoga

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and I had a fantastic

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teacher , my very first class , and about every 30

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seconds she

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would remind us to breathe . And every reminder I'm like , wow , I'm not

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breathing properly or hardly at all . So this all became part of

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my really deep understanding of fascia

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and now to date , I've probably spent well over

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60,000 hours diving into

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the fascia , whether other

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people or my own body , and I have a really

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intricate understanding of what's

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going on between the layers . So

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here we have this fascia that literally

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, in the way that I see it , is the cell

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membrane of every other cell membrane interconnected

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. And if we have this beautiful balance

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of collagen and elastin throughout

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the body , there's space to support

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proper cell alignment . And this

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is the key here we want to make sure that all of those cells

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are in correct space or alignment

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, because if that's true , then

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there's optimal space in and

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around the cell and

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space allows for absorption of nutrients into the cell , as well as the taking away of the toxins and

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negative emotion , even away from the cell . So as long as that

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system is nice and open , there's flow

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. The challenge that we

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have is , first of all , most of us

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aren't conscious of posture and diaphragmatic

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breathing and we have this force

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called gravity that is constantly

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pulling us down toward the earth . But

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we don't compress in

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a linear fashion . We wind

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down one way or another , energy

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moves in waves and spirals . There's no straight lines

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in nature . So even the way that the body ages

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is patterned based on this viral

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patterning of how energy travels

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. So as we get

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older , essentially what's happening as

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we start tipping off balance , the collagen

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starts to migrate from this equilibrium

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or balance . So if I'm right-handed

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which I am , and 70%

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of the people I believe are I tend to

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tip over to the left side because

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I want to keep that right side

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free for action . So , unconsciously

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, over time , we're continually

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shifting from our

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perfect center . And

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it's not a force in a moment

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, unless we have an injury . This is a continual

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downgrading of the system

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. So the collagen is constantly migrating

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to create these structural supports

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in the body so that we don't tip over

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. But they continue to accumulate

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and again , they don't just stack linearly

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, they are spiraling

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and gripping onto anything in its path

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with a force up to 2000 pounds

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per square inch . This is the part that just

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, I think , is so fascinating , because we are

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literally held out of alignment with

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this crazy force , but it's a magnetic

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seal . So what

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that means with regard to teeth

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health , jaw pain , all

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of these things we need to really look

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at what are the support

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systems in the body to keep these cells

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in correct alignment ? And if they're not , what happened

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? Because ultimately , what's happening with

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the jaw ? If it's not situated properly

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, then it goes into this contraction , so

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people have pain here , they might be chewing

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more on one side than the other and that's going

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to create asymmetries , because it's what we

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do all the time that matters most

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and ultimately builds up to create the scenario

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that we're in now . And

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what I've really seen and this is the part that's really exciting is when you look at a full body's

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alignment , which , if we're addressing the fascia , we need to , because if

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we're just going to address the area of pain

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or issue , that's not going to get us out

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of the situation . We need to understand the patterning

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and what's causing us to be pulled

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out of alignment and how to correct that . So

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what ? You know what ?

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I want you guys to all hear is

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that it's very important to have space around

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ourselves . She mentioned absorption . So

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we talk about all the time like nutrition . It's so

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important . We want to have healthy teeth , healthy bodies , but

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and I've said many times if you

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can't , you can have the healthiest meal , but if you can't absorb

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it , it's not doing you any good . So this

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is why I'm having another talk about fascia

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, because it really is . Nobody really understands

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this . It's becoming a thing , kelly

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, and you're really bringing it to the forefront , which is awesome

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, but , again , it's important . This is why

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this proper alignment , why posture

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, why breathing is so

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vital . We've got to have space

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around the cells , as Deanna said , to

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absorb our nutrients and to also

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release all of the toxins that are

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building up day in and day

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out . And , as she's saying , as we age

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, we start to compress

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more of this fascia . Therefore , there's

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less and less space between

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our cells . Therefore , it's like we're holding on

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to those toxins . So we were holding

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on to those more and we can't get rid of them , nor

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can we get the nutrients in that help

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us expel these

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. So this is why it's really important

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for us to understand the fascia

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system , and she also mentioned the

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emotion . We've talked a lot about that on the podcast

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too how we know we fold emotions

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in our body . So understanding

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a little bit more about the fascia and how we

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can work on it is really interesting

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. One thing that you mentioned in that podcast

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with Kelly which I thought was fascinating is

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we all know stress causes all sorts

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of problems . But okay

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, we can understand that concept . But

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physiologically I didn't really

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understand . And you talked about stress

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physiologically will compress

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that fascia . So again

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we're talking about stress compressing the fascia

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, not allowing us to absorb the nutrients

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, not allowing us to release whatever that

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negative circumstance .

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Maybe that led to that stress which

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is really really fascinating , and

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this is a great segue to really talking about

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the diaphragm , because when we're talking

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about the fascia , again , it's all about keeping

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everything in right position . But , most

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importantly , we've got this beautiful muscle

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, the diaphragm , and it is a plate of muscle

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that rests at the base of the rib cage . When

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it's strong and it's working

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properly , it's moving up and down in the core

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of the body , giving the organs

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, the heart and the lungs a continual

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massage . This is like the body's

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furnace or engine . Here's

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the challenge , because the

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diaphragm is the only muscle in the body that is

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under our conscious and unconscious control

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. And if we're not conscious , diaphragmatic

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breathers and if you're not , we're going to

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still breathe , but in a very different

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way . And the challenge is pain

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, fear and stress . All

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three of these things cause us to reactively

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hold the breath . So if

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you see a deer , for example , that survives

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an attack , they shake , they release that

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negative energy that came in during that traumatic

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event . We as humans , though we don't tend

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to go into that release mode , we get

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into this mode of oh my gosh

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, something happened , the diaphragm

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locked , and then we don't let that

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go , and then from that point

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, we age from that perspective

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. So now we start breathing through the muscles

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of the upper chest because we're designed

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to survive , so that's going

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to happen . But we're also designed to thrive . But we need

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to be conscious breathers for

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the thriving as opposed to just the surviving

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. So now , if we're breathing

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through the muscles of the upper chest , the challenge is that the base

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of the lungs is where the majority

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of the alveoli , the oxygen receptor

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sites , reside . So if we're taking these like

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shallow

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upper chest breaths , we're not pulling the air

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deeply enough into the lungs to reach this

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bed of abundance . And in the book Yoga

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and the Quest for the True Self , stephen Cope mentions

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that we can feed the body 600%

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more oxygen breathing

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diaphragmatically than breathing through the muscles

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of the upper chest . Also , it's

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been shown that 84%

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of weight loss comes through proper exhalation

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. So this takes me back to

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when I was in my 20s and I'm

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working out like a fiend and I'm getting

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bigger and more compressed and more toxic

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with every step of the way and

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I'm working hard . So it wasn't like there was a lazy

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thing going on here and I was dieting as well . So

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it's like the rules of weight loss weren't applying to me . But

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I recognized it was because , ok , I

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have this frozen diaphragm , so my

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body is in this deep freeze . So , no matter

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how much energy I'm putting into it

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to try to increase my metabolism and

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start burning fat which I now have

11:10

a very different understanding of as well it

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wasn't working . So the

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diaphragm is really the key here

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, because this is how

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we feed oxygen to cells . And think

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of blowing up a balloon . If that balloon is fully

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blown up , it's round

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, it glows , it almost defies gravity

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. But take half of the air out , it becomes

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wrinkled , it attracts dirt and debris , it

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becomes heavy , falls to the ground . So

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over time , if we're not breathing

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and absorbing oxygen into all of the cells

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, they start to deflate and

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as they deflate they start pulling us out of

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alignment . They become heavier , those

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adhesions , that collagen migrate , that

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grips now that blocks even more blood and oxygen

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flow to cells and so on and so on , and

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we have this understanding of normal

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aging . But it doesn't have to be

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that way . But then , as it relates to what's going

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on in the face , in the mouth , in

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the jaw , as we start falling

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away , if I don't have support

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structures to keep everything in line

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, then everything starts to migrate

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one way or another , depending on what the rest

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of our body is doing . And

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that's really in a nutshell

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. What's happening is we have

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allowed the forces of gravity to

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pull us into our internal spaces

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and then our body is patterned

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in that way to prevent us from tipping

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over . And it's that fascia patterning

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that is the challenge . And those grooves

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that get created in movement , those

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habits those are the things that we really

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want to understand that can create

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those problems . Even simply just if

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you're eating , chewing on one side all

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the time . That's going to create imbalance

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in this structure , so it can't work

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up and down properly . And there was a

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fantastic book I love it Breath

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, by James Nestor , and he

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talks about the structure of

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the roof of the mouth , proper

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alignment of the tongue , how that impacts

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how we breathe , but how that also impacts

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the health of the teeth , the alignment

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of the teeth and all of those things . So all

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of these conveniences that

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we've been granted in the way

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that we live are actually taking away

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from how we're using our bodies

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and we're becoming very less efficient

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at using the body in the way that it was

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designed to be driven . So understanding

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what to do with your fascia is really about taking

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us back to how we are

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supposed to work most naturally , because it's the

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most natural thing for us to breathe diaphragmatically

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. But we've become so far pulled

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from that that now we need a little

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bit of reminding and a little bit

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of effort and discipline to

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bring the body back into balance so that we

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can restore health and create a very different

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pathway for how we age in general .

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Now we've been talking about this I had a postural

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restoration therapist on too and we were also

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talking about the diaphragm and

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there's lots of studies showing if you diaphragmatic

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breathe , that also can prevent sleep apnea . Maybe

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a lot of sleep apnea is again improper

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breathing , as dentists always would be . Oh , your airway

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is very congested , but the more

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that I take these 3D x-rays I

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can have a patient on the x-ray . It looks like their

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airway is wide open , yet they have a diagnosis

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of sleep apnea . So it's not just structural

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. There's much more to this

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whole idea of sleep apnea and snoring

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, and a lot of it comes from

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some people who said we know when we drink alcohol we're

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going to snore more . Why is that ? That

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changes the way our breathing right ? It depresses

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our respiratory , the system in the brain . So

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I think this is really important . And you talk about

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yoga and there's all these different modalities

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and we talk about belly breathing . So maybe you

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can help us like are we really supposed to be breathing through our belly ? It really

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is the diaphragm right . So maybe you can help us . Are we really supposed to be breathing

14:44

through our belly ? It really is the diaphragm right

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. So maybe you can give us a little clarification

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. I'm sure some

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people are saying , okay , fine , but how do I breathe

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with my diaphragm ? What's

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the instructions ? How ?

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do we do this ? The first thing

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is if you were lying on your back , for example

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, and you had your hands on your belly , when you

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inhale , the belly should become big . When

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you exhale , the belly should become small

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. Now here's the challenge that a

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lot of people that are talking about breathing exercises

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don't recognize or understand

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how to change . So now we have

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this fascia that will grip and adhere to bone with

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a force of up to 2000 pounds per square inch . So

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I'm just going to bring my camera down , okay

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. So here's my diaphragm . If I'm breathing

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properly , it's moving up and down . Now

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, if I fall in and this

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is my posture for decades

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I'm sitting in front of a computer with this lumped

15:35

alignment . Now this plate

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of muscle , it's getting locked away in

15:41

this alignment through here

15:43

, and all of the adhesions that

15:45

have gripped around my rib cage are

15:47

now holding and sealing my

15:49

diaphragm in a bit of a freeze , like a frozen

15:52

shoulder . But we have a frozen diaphragm

15:54

. So even if we now say

15:56

, okay , I'm going to make conscious breathing a focus

15:58

and we start going through this breathing

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, all you're going to have available is

16:02

the amount of the diaphragm that you have available

16:05

. With fascia

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decompression , we release

16:09

those adhesions to bring more of that muscle

16:11

into balance . If you were doing

16:14

a forward bend and you had a hamstring

16:16

that you felt , okay , my hamstrings are tight , I can only

16:18

go so far . And you're stretching all

16:20

the time to keep whatever level

16:23

of length you have available for

16:25

you , all you can

16:27

do is what you have . But the thing is we've

16:29

got adhesions wrapping and gripping with

16:31

that muscle holding onto bone . So

16:34

fascia decompression releases the holding

16:36

pattern to give you more muscle

16:38

to lengthen . So when we're talking

16:40

about the diaphragm , when we start releasing the rib

16:43

cage now , we actually start integrating

16:45

more of this muscle , because this is the muscle

16:48

that's going to be directing that

16:50

blood and oxygen flow , giving that the

16:52

body the heat , the energy in order to have

16:55

enough momentum to send blood to

16:57

all of the trillions of cells in the body . Again

16:59

, if we're breathing through the muscles of the upper chest

17:01

, it's a very different dynamic . It's a weak

17:04

breath . We are literally feeding

17:06

a huge amount of reduction of oxygen

17:08

into the bloodstream as well as that release

17:10

. And I love again

17:12

because we always are talking about the

17:14

exhale as being the most important component

17:16

of the breath , and they referenced this very

17:19

beautifully in that breath book by James Nestor

17:21

as well , because it comes down

17:23

to the carbon dioxide now and this was . I

17:25

loved reading it because it gave a whole new way of

17:27

explaining it . So the carbon dioxide

17:30

in the cell is like exhaust in your car

17:32

. If your car is sitting on the driveway

17:34

and you don't have it started , there's no waste coming

17:36

out of it . But you turn it on and there's exhaust . So

17:38

same as the cells . When the cells are working

17:40

they create waste . That carbon

17:42

dioxide is the currency for the oxygen

17:45

. We need that carbon dioxide

17:47

to be able to allow the oxygen to release from

17:49

the hemoglobin to go into the cell . So

17:51

even if your blood is full of oxygen but

17:53

you have a whole bunch of cells that are inactive

17:56

, they're

18:02

not creating that currency to allow that oxygen to jump in . So we focus on the exhale as that primary

18:04

piece of the breath . We're all going to naturally take an inhale

18:06

. If you're suddenly holding your breath , you're going

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to go like it's that natural response

18:10

to inhale but to fully exhale . That's

18:12

where there's a bit more of a challenge , because

18:14

that's also when the diaphragm is lifting

18:17

against gravity . It's easier

18:19

to take that in-breath too , because gravity

18:21

is assisting the diaphragm

18:23

as it's moving down . So here's

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this plate of muscle . When we inhale , the diaphragm

18:28

moves down . When we exhale , exhale , it lifts and

18:31

it's moving up and down like all the time . But that

18:33

lifting takes more effort , more energy

18:35

. So we teach people to focus exhale

18:37

for a count of six , inhale

18:40

for four , squeeze the belly

18:42

small and then just naturally allow

18:44

that breath to come in

18:46

. It's the exhale that we train

18:49

people to make the focus . And then as you

18:51

start melting those adhesions from the rib cage

18:53

and you access more of this diaphragm

18:55

, you a feel the difference posturally

18:58

right away . And I have so many people sharing

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that when they leave a class and they get into

19:02

their car they always have to fix their mirror because

19:04

they're so much taller , and

19:06

that's a good thing . We want to be the very tallest version

19:08

of ourself because as we start compressing

19:11

, we all know we tend to get shorter and

19:13

wider as we age . So we

19:15

want to go in that opposite direction . Let those adhesions

19:17

go , fill that new space with

19:20

blood and oxygen through the teaching

19:22

of proper diaphragmatic breathing , but

19:24

then also own that space . And

19:26

the tongue is part of this . It's

19:28

part of the things that we teach , because there's a proper

19:30

alignment for the tongue to help support

19:33

the weight of the head . And I always say people

19:35

get , get , they don't want a double chin . It's

19:37

not a double chin , it's a weak , displaced

19:40

tongue that we're dealing with . So if we actually

19:42

understand what's going on , then we have

19:44

a very specific roadway that we

19:46

can actually undo things and at

19:48

the roof of the mouth , about a pinky nail distance

19:50

from the teeth , there's a ridge and the tongue

19:53

should naturally dock in that ridge and support

19:55

the roof of the mouth . When I'm not conscious , my

19:57

tongue will dart forward and to the right and then

19:59

I end up clenching more on that left side . So

20:02

we all have these patternings because we're dominant

20:04

on one side . We're not symmetrical

20:06

in our movements If we're right-handed . I

20:08

was so right-handed that I was very twisted

20:10

. I was a provincial volleyball player . I was a power

20:12

hitter . I think of the number of times I rotated

20:15

from one direction to another only and

20:17

how that really created a lot of problems for me as

20:19

I was getting older . I was playing as a teenager

20:22

. So these patternings

20:24

that get built into our body from what we

20:26

just do all the time , they're the

20:28

problems down the road that we need to

20:30

understand and then do to be able to

20:32

bring that body back into balance

20:34

, to support proper cell alignment and then

20:36

therefore flow .

20:38

Hey , you made a good point . We would call it in

20:41

the mouth , the spot right . The tongue's

20:43

got to rest on the spot right

20:45

. So really interesting , especially for women

20:47

who , like we don't want to have that double chin , that

20:49

it's a lot about the muscle

20:52

, like you said , the fascia kind of melting down

20:54

with gravity . So how can we do ? A tongue is

20:56

the strongest muscle in the body , so we

20:58

should work and we talk about our patients all the time

21:00

with simple exercise . You can go on youtube , hit

21:03

tongue exercise . You'll find all sorts of

21:05

great stuff on there . But interestingly , it's

21:07

why children you see them suck their thumb a lot

21:09

. And where is that thumb going ? Going up

21:11

into that spot right , and

21:14

sometimes it's . I know with my youngest or

21:16

my oldest . She was pulled out with suction

21:18

so her whole body was , you

21:21

know , from birth , a little bit out of alignment

21:23

and I didn't know this at this time . She's , by

21:26

sucking her thumb and putting it up in that space

21:28

. That's also where the two sides of

21:30

the energy systems come to meet

21:32

in the body . It's trying to help

21:34

her calm that nervous system to allow

21:36

for alignment . Wow .

21:38

That's awesome .

21:39

Yeah , it's deeper interesting when we say

21:42

, if your kid is a phone stalker , maybe

21:44

think , hey , maybe we need proof of the FTE , we might

21:46

need some fascial work because

21:48

, again , we can't cut our kid's thumbs

21:50

off . We don't and we know it can create

21:53

problems in the mouth . But there's a

21:55

reason . There's always a reason why we develop

21:57

these habits . I think it would be

21:59

so amazing if at every

22:01

birth there was a fascial therapist right

22:04

there but it got to squeeze through the tiny

22:06

little canal . Of course there's going to be some

22:09

fascial distortion there , right , and

22:11

depending on like my kid she got suctioned out

22:13

. All sorts of things can really impact

22:15

that , and she's a person now who tends to

22:17

have a little more anxiety and she's

22:19

getting some pretty fascial .

22:22

Sorry . I love that you said that , because we actually have a video

22:25

to teach parents how to address

22:27

their baby's breath now , because

22:29

the baby's breath

22:32

is the mother's breath . I'm 54

22:34

. My generation did not grow up

22:36

in front of computers . They came into life

22:38

later , where kids today , of

22:41

course , they're starting in these negative alignments

22:43

at a very young age . So the mothers of

22:45

today , if you're a mother that's 25

22:47

years old today , you grew

22:49

up in front of computers , you had

22:52

this posturing and now you're the

22:54

mother to this child coming out

22:56

. Your breath is compromised the mother compared

22:59

to generations earlier from the

23:01

whole posture that technology has granted

23:03

us . So there's already a

23:05

different breathing pattern to the babies coming out

23:07

. And what I'm observing in a lot

23:09

of babies is they're not breathing diaphragmatically

23:11

where before older generations

23:13

you saw it you breathe diaphragmatically

23:16

and then over time you lose that breath because

23:18

pain , fear and stress causes us to reactively

23:20

hold the breath . But now I'm seeing babies not breathing

23:22

that way and I truly believe that by

23:25

we're seeing so many more challenges . So one really

23:27

simple thing you can do and

23:29

I'm just going to use my block here pretend this is

23:31

the baby's rib cage , just putting a little

23:33

bit of compression on the rib cage

23:35

as you walk around for

23:37

maybe one to three minutes , because that's going

23:39

to generate that heat for those

23:41

ribs and we're born to breathe this way

23:44

, so they're going to naturally adopt that

23:46

breath if the rib cage allows the space

23:48

for them to do that . So just a really simple

23:50

exercise , because you're carrying them around anyways most

23:52

of the time . So just holding and squeezing . I have

23:54

a video too I can certainly share if people

23:56

would like to see that . But yeah , I

23:58

think that difference in the beginning as

24:00

they're developing , it's a huge thing .

24:04

One other thing , before we get into the specifics kind of

24:06

the faith and TMJ stuff . One

24:08

other point I really liked that you talked about with

24:10

Kelly was how inflammation is

24:13

the goal when you're doing all this fascial work and

24:15

most people would be like what Inflammation

24:17

is terrible and it causes all these problems

24:20

. But I'd love for you to explain

24:22

that a little bit . And one other thing

24:24

that I loved that you said was don't ever use

24:27

ice , because I've been saying that forever and ever

24:29

. No

24:36

, we want circulation , we want heat . I am a big proponent of red light . I think everybody . I

24:38

try to get everybody to have one of those in their first aid kit . I carry mine to my kid

24:40

athletic event so I'm like forget the ice . No , it's all about the red light

24:42

, but anyway , tell us a little bit about

24:44

what you mean that inflammation is .

24:46

Oh , so let's say I sprained

24:48

my ankle , so the body

24:51

knows what to do . It knows how to heal . We just need

24:53

to support the process . So I sprained

24:55

my ankle . Now I have inflammation , just

24:57

directed blood flow to this area . Because

24:59

now there needs to be a little bit more energy

25:01

. I need to go and heal this space . So

25:04

like thinking of baking a cake if

25:06

you have flour , sugar , egg oil

25:08

, you mix it up , you

25:11

have batter . If you put batter in the freezer

25:13

, you have frozen batter . If you put batter in the oven , you bake cake . So the second

25:16

law of thermodynamics is nature abhors a gradient

25:18

, which means when there's a gap in the system , nature's

25:21

going to fill it in . So now I have a tear

25:23

. It can be a tear in a tendon , a ligament , a

25:25

muscle . It can be a break in the bone . Either way

25:27

it's a gap . Our body is designed

25:29

to rebuild . So now

25:32

we get all this blood flow , this inflammation

25:34

, being sent to the area . If we

25:36

limit that inflammation through isin

25:38

, we still have this gap . So

25:40

now , instead of the body

25:43

being able to have enough

25:45

energy to rebuild , what's happening

25:47

is all of the tissue around

25:49

the gap . The collagen in that

25:51

tissue is going to dump into the space like filling

25:53

in a pothole . Winnipeg has probably

25:56

some of the worst streets in the world , at least here in

25:58

North America , because we have such

26:00

clay bays in the spring fiber year it's crazy

26:02

. So the pothole

26:04

that we have to navigate when we're

26:06

driving are crazy , and then

26:08

the city will go and they'll fill them in , but

26:11

then the next rain and enough driving

26:13

there is a hole again . So they're not repaired

26:15

, they're not fixed . It's a band-aid

26:17

. Basically , scar tissue that

26:20

we understand today is that band-aid

26:22

. It had the ability to

26:24

heal like it should have been before

26:27

the injury , but it needed the energy of the inflammation

26:29

. So when we assist

26:31

the inflammation through adding energy , through

26:33

heat , through understanding proper breathing

26:36

, through making sure that the channels for

26:38

flow are open , then there's a very

26:40

different healing opportunity

26:42

than if we do it with icing . So

26:44

then let's say now we've got this sprained

26:47

ankle and a year later and I've healed with scar

26:49

tissue , which is typical . So

26:51

now that scar tissue doesn't have elastability

26:54

, it doesn't have life really . So now it becomes a barricade

26:56

to even further float . So the body's still saying

26:58

wait a sec . I still feel

27:01

that I need to assist this space because

27:03

there's all these cells that are struggling , so it keeps sending

27:05

more and more inflammation because

27:08

it's just reading it needs help . So

27:10

this is now the scenario of , suddenly

27:12

we become we have chronic

27:14

inflammation . It's becoming stagnant , because

27:17

the more adhesions , the less flow

27:19

, the more body saying whoa , I need to send more . We

27:22

get caught in this really weird cycle

27:24

. Inflammation , though , is

27:26

what the body does to heal , but if

27:28

it becomes stagnant now , it can become problematic

27:31

to the tissue around that area , more acidic

27:34

, and then again we get more inflammation . So we get trapped

27:36

in these bases of chronic inflammation

27:38

being the bad guy . All we need

27:40

to do , though , is know what to do to heat that inflammation

27:43

up , and that's turn on your engine . We

27:45

need to get the breath awake again , because this

27:47

is your furnace . If I

27:50

live in a 30-story building , if

27:52

I have a space heater only for

27:54

my apartment , I can heat one

27:56

room . When it's minus 30 outside

27:58

, turn the building's furnace on . We can

28:00

heat the whole building . So your diaphragm

28:02

is the furnace , the upper chest muscles

28:05

are the space heater , and if I need to get

28:07

energy all the way down to my foot with

28:09

the space heater , I'm not going to get

28:11

very far in that repair process , but once

28:13

I turn on the diaphragm and I start

28:15

understanding how to melt through those adhesions

28:18

through the whole body , then I start

28:20

to turn

28:22

on the healing potential that was in

28:24

that inflammation to begin with , because

28:26

it's sitting there as potential energy but it's dormant

28:29

because it's too cold . If you've ever gone in , I

28:31

love this analogy because if you've ever gone into a

28:33

cottage in the winter and you turn the heat

28:35

on and suddenly the flies that are there come to

28:37

life , where were you ? They weren't dead , they

28:40

were simply hibernating . So

28:42

we've got all of these cells hibernating

28:44

because they're you know , they're that bear in the

28:46

cave . They're pulled away from life

28:48

. We

28:52

need energy to have that life . So that's where that breath comes in , and restoring that

28:54

flow throughout the body is so key because

28:57

, whether it's been chronic inflammation

28:59

or not , you've got all that healing in

29:01

that space that has the potential to do its

29:03

job of repair . So

29:06

that's a huge

29:08

reason why we don't want to be icing .

29:10

So we love that , because not everybody's got their red light

29:12

handy , which is great , but you don't even need

29:14

that . So , people , those of us who are cold

29:16

all the time my older daughter , oh my gosh , she just

29:19

is so breathing and I had a little heart mass

29:21

that you put in your phone and we test her breathing and

29:23

she just was so shallow breathing she

29:25

wasn't being able to get that . Circulation was

29:27

so absent . So those of us who have

29:30

always felt like I'm always cold , I'm always cold . Let's

29:32

look at the breath . We can layer up

29:35

, but if we're so cold

29:37

like that , we got to think that , hey , I'm not

29:39

getting oxygen where it needs to go . Right

29:41

, I've got to help that out a little bit

29:43

. So , again , it all comes back to the breath , which

29:45

is one of the most amazing tools

29:47

that we have and we all have it and it's totally

29:49

free . We all really need to

29:52

have it harnessed . So , yes , thank

29:54

you for that . That's real important and it's still very

29:56

common . My father had surgery on his

29:58

hand and my mother's got him with

30:00

an ice pack and I said no . I

30:02

said you've got a red light next to your bed , use that

30:04

instead , and my father's one . You have

30:06

to prove everything to , and so I'm sending

30:09

him these articles . There's plenty of articles showing

30:11

no ice . I use this kind of therapy , so

30:13

that convinced him , but not just what

30:15

I would say . But

30:19

it's funny that you talk about breath , because my mother just bought him this book , because actually

30:21

one of his doctors told him about this , which I thought was amazing , and so

30:23

now he's totally obsessed with this book and

30:25

so anytime you talk to him now , it's because of your breath

30:28

. Talk

30:31

to him now it's because of your breath . Your breath , yeah . And I read this book four years ago when

30:33

I was on vacation with him and I was trying , didn't matter , because he has to come , he has to

30:35

read himself , which is great , but one of

30:37

the things about breath , topic that I love too

30:39

.

30:40

And again in that book , steven cope yoga in the quest

30:42

for the true self , he's got a really fantastic

30:44

chapter blaming the differences

30:47

between the chest breather and the diaphragmatic

30:49

breather , and even the brain frequencies

30:52

they're different . With that diaphragmatic

30:54

breath they're relaxed . We are in the bagel

30:56

space , that parasympathetic nervous system

30:59

, which we should be in 80 of our day . If

31:01

we're breathing through those upper chest muscles , we're in stress

31:03

pattern past and fear

31:05

, or sorry , past and future , where fear

31:07

lives . And so that's

31:10

a huge thing to consider too , because if

31:12

we're in that stress mode , what is the

31:14

rest of our body doing when we're stressed

31:16

? We pull in , we contract . If

31:19

our hands are like this , that means our shoulders are

31:21

contracted , and then what does that mean for the jaw

31:23

and for the carotid arteries

31:25

and the thyroid and the major lymphatic

31:28

drainage site when we're all tight in this

31:30

space ? And we've had a number of

31:32

people get off their CPAP machines from doing this

31:34

work , because really we've got to understand again

31:36

if you're snoring and

31:39

you think it's coming from here , what's

31:42

underneath , that is the rib cage , and

31:44

how is that alignment affecting what's

31:46

going on through here ? So that's

31:48

the interesting part when we're looking at the body

31:50

as a whole . We can't simply look

31:53

at the area of concern , especially

31:55

if we're dealing with , here too , what's

32:01

happening with the arms and the hands . Anatomical position is palms forward . That's how we should

32:03

be at rest . Who's like that ? If you look at pretty much anybody

32:05

, their palms are facing the back and

32:07

just change . Bring your palms forward

32:10

, turn them to the back , notice what happens

32:12

to your rib cage . So that's one

32:14

of the things that we prompt people to do is , when you're

32:16

walking , have your palms forward , and it's interesting

32:18

because people will always say , won't I look funny ? It's like

32:20

, isn't that funny ? It'll be like

32:23

pulling you forward and down , which

32:25

is ultimately the problem . Another interesting

32:27

thing is I have a esthetician's program

32:30

, and so this

32:32

has been a really fun conversation because

32:34

, of course , as estheticians , you're primarily

32:37

working through here . So if you've got a jowl

32:39

hanging and this is your posture all the time

32:41

and gravity is like pulling the tissue down more

32:44

and you try to fix this

32:46

without changing this , you

32:48

might get that . Oh , I just left the esthetician . I've got a

32:50

nice glow to my skin , but that's not going to change

32:52

the dynamic of what's happening

32:54

in through here . That comes through

32:56

changing the entire alignment

32:59

of the body . I've got so many

33:01

incredible before and afters that we

33:03

can certainly add to this to show you also

33:06

what happens to the shape of the skull

33:08

if we've been positioned this way , and

33:11

then we bring everything back and then

33:13

the whole shape of the skull changes to

33:15

create also more space for the brain .

33:17

So , speaking of , let's talk about how has

33:19

the skull , how has that changed over time

33:21

? You've kind of mentioned a little bit over time

33:24

the technology and we're rounding forward and

33:27

so it was interesting . I had an emotional

33:29

code session yesterday and she was like geez

33:32

, your sphenoid bone is totally

33:34

out of whack and that's causing some emotional issues

33:36

. I'm like , okay , interesting , which

33:38

? That's the bone of the face that is often

33:41

out . We talk a lot about that and when

33:43

we're trying to correct kind of jaw shape

33:45

and stuff , we've got to get that . Everybody

33:50

thinks that the skull is static , but it moves all the time . There are little

33:52

sutures and they can move and tell us a little bit about the skull and then

33:55

continue that conversation about why

33:57

TMD problems occur

33:59

and why it's got to go

34:01

a little bit deeper than just having a guard

34:04

.

34:05

Yeah , and it's fascinating

34:07

if you look at a photo of a

34:09

person in their teen . Compared

34:11

to , say , their 50s or 60s , the

34:14

head shape very much changes . Usually

34:16

it's a lot broader when we're younger and

34:18

then as we get older , we're constantly shifting

34:21

and migrating . There's 22 bones in

34:23

the skull at least that's what

34:25

it says on Google . Either

34:28

way , though , exactly like these , there's space

34:30

between all of the bones , so

34:32

that changes it , and then we get an

34:34

overlap of the bones and you can see

34:36

that . You can see compression in the head

34:38

over here , and then migration . So

34:41

it's that migration

34:43

of the collagen that

34:45

create that . And I have a hair health

34:47

class , and this is really fascinating because what I teach

34:49

people with my hair health class is to release

34:51

the scalp from the skull . We

34:54

should have , if you put your finger on your scalp

34:56

and you move your fingers , it shouldn't be sticky

34:58

Like the ear . You should be able to pull

35:00

the ear away and it should be nice and mobile . A

35:03

lot of people , if you tug on the ear , you

35:05

don't see it lifting away because it's literally

35:07

suctioned with those adhesions

35:10

, with that 2,000 pound per square

35:12

inch seal . So , as we start falling out

35:14

of balance , what the fascia does . What

35:16

these adhesions do is they grip . We

35:18

see people with calyx . That's

35:21

the grip , because energy moves in waves and spirals

35:23

. So now we've got a little grip , we've got a little grip

35:25

. Both those grips make everything tighter

35:27

and tighter . It's in a vice . That's

35:29

partly why people are going to have headaches

35:32

or migraines , literally , as we get older

35:34

and we allow the collagen to

35:36

migrate . It

35:41

creates a vice for what's going on up through here . So then if this isn't properly aligned and

35:43

we're chewing , now we've got this joint that isn't working properly , and again , if we're chewing

35:45

more on one side than the other , then

35:47

we're going to get a buildup , we're going to get an

35:50

imbalance , and then

35:52

we're going to get a buildup , we're going to get an imbalance , and then we're going

35:54

to go into clench mode , because if things are positioned where they should be , we're

35:56

relaxed . As soon as we start tipping forward

35:58

, now gravity is going to be drawing the mandible

36:00

away and twisting it , and then we

36:03

contract to try to stop

36:05

it from falling away . So there's all these

36:07

unconscious contractions and

36:09

buildup of adhesions that are occurring

36:11

in our patterning , based on these

36:14

continual forces that we don't

36:16

even recognize , until suddenly there's a limitation

36:18

or a pain .

36:21

And it's interesting because about maybe

36:23

eight months ago I all of a sudden developed shoulder

36:25

pain , left shoulder . So as a dentist

36:27

, I'm right-handed too and I'm like this all day

36:29

long and I didn't

36:32

injure myself nothing . But

36:34

I've been a dentist for 20 years now and

36:36

I'm like this is I've got like

36:39

left shoulder , right hip , which are

36:41

intimately connected . And you know what I'm doing

36:43

Sometimes I'm standing , sometimes I'm sitting . Also

36:48

, I'm so short too , I'm always contorted and trying to see in the mouth . It's really interesting and

36:50

it's not that , like I said , it's not that I injured myself , but

36:52

20 years habit and

36:55

pulling that fascia . And

36:57

it's interesting because I've had massages

36:59

every month for years and

37:01

I've recently been doing the fascia

37:04

work because it's different than a massage

37:06

. But I think in my line of work I think

37:08

I could have that work like three , four times a

37:10

week . Still still , because you're

37:12

right , every time we move , talk , anything

37:14

we're doing , we're always manipulating that

37:16

fascia .

37:17

So I wonder if

37:19

I can show this , can

37:21

you see this ? Yep , oh my

37:23

God , a different face , huge

37:25

. And here's the exciting thing this

37:28

before and after was three weeks

37:30

. All

37:33

she did was work between the toes .

37:35

She did not . So those of you who are listening . So Deanna

37:37

just showed a photo of a woman . She had big

37:39

double chin , basically Right , he didn't

37:41

see like any neck whatsoever and

37:44

like her whole face looked

37:46

completely different . She

37:48

has a nice chin . She looked healthier

37:51

, more vibrant , yet her eyes , like her

37:53

full head , is more forward . Wow

37:55

, that's really amazing . Funny

37:57

that you say that because I've wanted to remind

37:59

this . I , when you were , I think you talked about this on kelly

38:02

with her podcast , and

38:04

I mentioned that to my cT

38:06

because my daughter , my 15-year-old

38:09

, very pigeon-toed , like her left foot

38:11

, we were on vacation . My husband was like oh my gosh

38:13

. And she said everybody at school tells me that too

38:15

. And I said and

38:17

then you were talking about putting your hands between

38:20

the toes right for a few minutes and I said

38:22

, all right , I'm never going to get my 15-year-old to put her

38:24

hands in . Well , I said I wonder if I could use those

38:26

little things that you separate your toes to paint their

38:28

nose . We had those . So I had her

38:30

put that between her toes for three

38:33

minutes , then had her walk around

38:35

and three minutes she was even

38:37

sold . She was like , oh my gosh , no

38:39

more pigeon toes . I was like so . Then my CFT

38:41

was like oh , I've never told you about Zentos , so

38:44

I got her a pair of those . But

38:46

yeah , please tell us about the Toa line

38:48

.

38:49

Yeah , it's wild to think , but we've

38:51

got these feet that have 26

38:53

bones in each , malleable

38:59

under different surfaces

39:02

, is because there's all these bones and all

39:04

this space where they

39:07

end up turning into kind of clubs . For

39:09

a lot of people they become really bound

39:11

and hard . We don't consider like all

39:14

of your body weight is being carried on

39:16

these little feet and most

39:18

people just , oh , let's go get a pedicure . You

39:20

don't really think about the health of the feet . Death

39:22

starts in the feet . The feet are the very

39:25

furthest thing from your engine

39:27

, so they're the first things that are going to start

39:29

to suffer from a lack of

39:31

flow . And then , depending on our

39:33

patterning when I'm looking at a body I always look there's

39:36

always going to be one side of your body that's the

39:38

driver , like having a flat tire . You're

39:40

driving with a flat tire , the car starts

39:42

getting pulled into that system and

39:45

then the other side of the body becomes the anchor

39:47

. So here's where we have the pain

39:49

. So your left shoulder , your

39:52

right foot , is going to be the driver and

39:54

as it's driving away now that left side

39:56

is anchoring and getting really tight and tense

39:58

to try to stop this continual

40:00

force . So now these muscles

40:03

in the back of the body which aren't designed

40:05

to be holding you up , are

40:07

having to do this extra job and then eventually

40:10

we've got shoulder pain or because of

40:12

the alignment and how that affects the humerus

40:15

and the shoulder socket . Now there's limitation

40:17

and range of motion and if we don't

40:19

address that opposite foot we're

40:22

going to have again . If you go for a treatment , it might

40:24

be still good for a couple of days or

40:26

get some improvement , but you're not getting to the root

40:28

of the problem , which is that other foot

40:30

pulling away .

40:32

That's the really sad part . I have bunions

40:34

. I've had that , so I've always had foot

40:36

problems . I used to always have

40:38

right knee . I never really pained

40:40

when I was younger , but always snapping and popping

40:43

in that knee knee I've always had , and the

40:45

bottom of my right foot , the middle

40:47

of it , and it's been numb for 30

40:49

years probably again yeah

40:51

so when your toes are twisted and held in that

40:53

patterning .

40:54

Every step you take it reinforces that patterning

40:57

. When we actually take that time and

40:59

we put pressure between

41:01

the spaces and it works great

41:03

for the hands too . And for the hands we can be a little more

41:05

efficient than we can do both hands at

41:07

one time , because again , if

41:10

you even took your finger and you started to pull

41:12

and turn it , that's going to pull everything

41:15

up the system . So now if you've got

41:17

a tension in your shoulder and you're only

41:19

working here , we haven't addressed the hand to

41:21

bring that back to balance . That's going

41:23

to be part of the equation as well . So

41:26

your fingers and your toes are the very furthest thing

41:28

and they're going to be the strongest manipulators of

41:30

your fascia patterning . So when all she

41:32

did was spend three minutes every

41:35

day between each toe and she was

41:37

able to bring her center of gravity back more

41:39

to her yield , bring more balance and

41:41

symmetry , bring more energy down

41:43

to the feet , because now you're heating at the most

41:45

frozen place and so you're

41:47

creating more of a flow in the body . And

41:49

what struck me the most were her eyes , though

41:51

.

41:52

Yeah , she just looks healthier

41:54

, more vibrant . Yeah , yeah . That's

41:57

so fascinating and so it's

41:59

like this she was Right

42:02

. So that's fascinating . So doing

42:04

this were in only three weeks on getting

42:06

those toes more aligned

42:08

, the entire her whole structure

42:10

chain . That's because it almost looks like

42:13

she and everybody . You can watch this on youtube

42:15

, but it almost looks like she must have lost

42:17

20 pounds or something , but no

42:19

, when you just I thought it was really interesting to use

42:21

. We're talking about how the proper diaphragmatic

42:24

breathing that's important

42:26

for weight loss , like you said . So

42:28

many of us who try

42:30

so hard but we can't seem to get that

42:33

belly fat reduced , maybe

42:35

we need to really look towards

42:37

that diaphragm and that proper breathing .

42:39

And it's funny because people don't really

42:42

consider the mechanics of what's happening

42:44

inside , because in my view , this is the most important

42:46

thing . So again , here's this plate of muscle when

42:48

it's moving up and down . I've got

42:50

my abdominal organs , I've got my heart

42:52

and lungs . This massaging

42:55

is giving energy to those

42:57

organs . Now , if I have

42:59

a weak diaphragm , because I'm an upper

43:01

chest breather , now the weight of everything

43:03

above crashing down into the core

43:05

space . So if I'm leaning more to the

43:07

left , here's my aorta that's

43:10

basically getting compressed , so it's like

43:12

you're taking the straw and twisting it . So now

43:14

your heart has to work that much harder to

43:16

send blood and oxygen through there , because there's

43:18

no energy there . Now it's also colder

43:20

. So now the fats that would

43:22

normally be liquid when heated , they're

43:25

becoming solid . These plaques are getting

43:27

aligned along the blood vessels

43:29

, they're clogging the liver . Without that

43:32

action , your pancreas

43:35

, how can you possibly have

43:37

all of this wonderful insulin being created

43:39

to balance blood sugar when you're basically putting all of the weight of everything above and

43:41

you're strangling these organs and now you're not giving them proper energy ? Because you're basically

43:43

putting all of the weight of everything above and you're

43:45

strangling these organs and now you're

43:47

not giving them proper energy

43:49

, because you're not breathing from that space . Like

43:51

when we're digesting food , part

43:54

of the digestion is from the mechanical

43:56

aspect of this muscle

43:58

moving up and down to create heat and energy

44:00

. So if I'm this right-handed person

44:02

and I'm sitting like this and I'm eating , and

44:05

then most people aren't chewing properly , so now I'm swallowing

44:08

whole pieces of food and I'm putting

44:10

it into this gut , this stomach

44:12

organ that also doesn't have enough energy because I'm

44:14

not breathing right , how can it possibly

44:16

break down properly and

44:18

absorb nutrients ? And that's where

44:20

we're starting to see issues with bloating

44:23

. So as we get older , we tend to think okay

44:25

, I haven't changed my diet , I'm still exercising

44:27

it . Now I'm getting this little pouch , this

44:29

extra belly fat , but

44:32

it's not that , it's compression

44:34

, ballooning . And now , because

44:36

there's not enough energy for foods to break down

44:38

or be eliminated , we're getting a backup

44:41

of waste that's taking space , causing

44:43

us to become bigger . Now

44:46

the body's inflaming because it's going nothing working right in here . So you're getting a whole

44:48

a bunch of inflammation in the gut , making

44:51

us bigger and it's bad . Now we're attracting parasite

44:53

and bacteria and fungus and getting

44:56

an imbalance of what we should have and they're creating

44:58

waste , causing even more . So this

45:00

is really , in my view , what's going on from the perspective

45:02

of weight loss , because I was that person dieting

45:05

and working out and I'm getting bigger , so why

45:08

were the rules of weight loss not applying to me

45:10

and not how I really started to

45:12

understand what was going on with the breath and

45:14

with the alignment ? If I stood up

45:16

right now and I turned my back to you and I fell

45:18

in from my back , I'll look 20

45:20

pounds bigger than when I'm standing correctly

45:22

and I've got things positioned where they should be . But

45:25

really so from the weight

45:27

loss conversation , I see this as

45:29

more of a size loss space gain conversation

45:31

than weight loss . What we're really

45:34

losing is the toxins .

45:36

Yeah , it's fascinating . I love learning

45:39

this stuff and it makes complete sense

45:41

. And again , when the tool you have

45:43

is your breath , that's exciting , that's empowering

45:45

. We can do this . I definitely want to talk about your block

45:47

there , but right before we do that , we're coming to

45:49

the end here . Let's say we have all

45:51

this , the TMJ , pain

45:54

and stuff . As somebody

45:56

who understands fascia , teach

45:58

me as the dentist how

46:00

do I want to approach this , what am I

46:02

looking for and maybe what are other

46:04

diagnostic solutions that I can come

46:07

?

46:09

Even giving people just the understanding

46:11

of how to create a little bit of a release

46:13

in the rib cage . So we've got

46:15

all these free videos

46:18

that we teach people using a rolled up towel

46:20

. If you're just using a rolled up towel

46:22

everybody's got a towel at home and you

46:24

lie on that towel , right on the belly button and

46:26

you breathe . Now you are bringing

46:28

the diaphragm into the equation

46:30

. You're going to be strengthening this , so it's going

46:32

to help to lift . As soon as that rib

46:35

cage lifts and pulls back . Now everything

46:37

here changes . So

46:39

it's all about alignment . And

46:41

then if we release those lower ribs and

46:44

we even lift even further and then we understand

46:46

how to teach people about that proper

46:48

alignment with the hand , that

46:50

all changes the entire . We

46:53

should have 60% of our body weight on our heels

46:55

and I learned

46:57

this over 20 years ago , so it's probably

47:00

far more now . The average person has

47:02

80% of their body weight on the balls of their feet

47:04

and that's before a high heel shoe . So

47:07

what that we need to consider

47:09

when dealing with this , because if we keep this

47:11

happening , we're going to keep contracted

47:13

. So the more we can teach

47:15

how to bring that rib cage

47:17

up , bring those arms back into alignment

47:20

, then this gets to rest and then we're not

47:22

in that clenching mode . And

47:24

then teaching people how to position the

47:26

tongue and strengthen the tongue . Hold the tongue

47:28

out for 10 breaths , you'll feel it

47:30

. It's a muscle , right . But ? And I'll teach

47:32

people like look up , bring

47:35

that tongue toward the ceiling

47:37

. You're gonna feel where these

47:39

adhesions are in the throat . But

47:42

the more you strengthen it then the stronger

47:44

it is . To also help support proper alignment of

47:47

the head and the neck . But we can't just focus

47:49

on the tongue , because it comes from the rib

47:51

cage and the rib cage is driven from the

47:53

feet and the legs . So

47:56

it's not like

47:58

a simple thing , right ?

48:00

I've done that before , just throwing a guard

48:02

, and these people try to balance it back

48:04

. I'm going to be talking about their feet

48:06

, about their breasts , that's it , because all

48:08

of these are totally free . You don't have to buy anything

48:11

. You can do all of this at home

48:13

, so that's absolutely amazing

48:15

. So , talking about that , you have an amazing

48:17

website . You have so many programs . Tell

48:19

us what your website . Tell us a little bit about it . You've created

48:22

this block which you showed earlier , and

48:24

it's wooden because that's more similar

48:26

to bone , right ? Yeah

48:28

, a couple of sizes . So you already mentioned that you

48:31

don't want to get the block right away , even

48:33

just using a towel . But tell us your website

48:35

. Tell us all . You have so many programs

48:38

. It's absolutely amazing .

48:41

So website is blocktherapycom and

48:43

where we basically want people to start . If

48:45

you're wanting to dive in and get the tools is our

48:47

starter program . So this

48:49

is what the BlockBuddy looks like . It's a

48:51

very specific size and shape

48:53

. It's rounded Because

48:56

as we're going through the layers

48:58

of fascia to address those adhesions

49:00

all the way to the bone . The reason

49:02

it's made of wood is because bone and wood

49:05

are similar in density . If we use something

49:07

more porous , like a tennis ball or

49:09

a fascia roller that's made of plastic

49:11

and they're porous , you'll get some

49:13

surface layer benefit , but you're not

49:15

. We're not going to be able to drive through those layers

49:17

to the bone and we also don't move

49:19

on the surface . When we do positions

49:21

and we do positions all the way everywhere , from head

49:23

to toe . When we do positions and we do positions

49:26

all the way everywhere , from head to toe , front and back

49:28

and side , we're in a position for a minimum of three minutes as we're focused

49:30

on the breath . So we teach you how to

49:32

connect your diaphragmatic breaths Now we've turned

49:34

on the body's furnace and then

49:36

we teach you how to be in position

49:38

and search for pain , because

49:41

pain is the baby crying . It's

49:43

connected to where those adhesions are

49:45

. So we can use pain as our

49:47

roadmap and we twist and we turn

49:50

. Energy moves in waves and spirals . So

49:52

we don't just again , we don't age linearly

49:54

, we age in a rotational forward

49:56

direction . So as we start going through the layers

49:59

, we start shearing away

50:01

. Very slowly You're following

50:03

that path of pain , but you're

50:05

in control and the pressure fibers

50:08

are larger than the pain fibers . So as soon

50:10

as you connect in and you start breathing , those

50:12

pressure fibers take over . So now it becomes

50:14

a good pain and then , before you know it

50:16

, wow , I don't feel pain anymore . Okay , now search

50:18

, now start shearing into a new

50:20

layer , a new level , and we'll take

50:22

a little time , a few breaths , and we'll melt those adhesions

50:25

and we'll keep going deeper because we want to

50:27

get to the root of the issue , at the bone . So

50:29

that's two parts

50:32

of our three-part process

50:34

of block therapy or fascia decompression

50:36

. The first one is to create the space that we've lost

50:38

over time through melting those adhesions

50:41

, which is tied into the second pillar

50:43

, which is inflating the space through

50:45

proper diaphragmatic breathing . And

50:47

then the third one is maintaining that

50:49

space through understanding proper postural

50:52

foundation . So if

50:54

I have pain in my left shoulder

50:56

, my right foot's going to be likely

50:58

the driver . There's always exceptions to the rule , but most

51:01

likely this is going to be the driver . So , bringing your feet

51:03

back into balance , releasing

51:11

the toes as a strengthening , gripping the toes into the floor because we

51:13

want to rebuild that . The feet should be springy , but because people don't think about it , they've

51:15

pancaked , they've flattened out and they don't

51:17

have a lot of life in them . So we're not walking with intention

51:20

. We want to bring that life and

51:22

awareness back into the feet . We should be walking

51:25

with our toes . People are walking

51:27

on these clubs and letting gravity direct

51:29

their movement as

51:31

opposed to being conscious of how we're moving

51:33

. This is really all about just becoming giving

51:35

yourself a little bit of time . It might sound complicated

51:37

, but it's super simple . It's just the discipline

51:40

of saying I'm not only going to be living in

51:42

my brain , I'm going to be living partly in my body

51:44

. I'm

51:48

going to connect to these sensations . I'm not going to be afraid of pain , because it's

51:50

the baby crying . If we mask the pain , then we're not listening

51:53

to the signal and your cell is saying hey

51:55

, mom or dad , you're asking me to

51:57

do a phenomenal job for you , but you're starving

51:59

me , or

52:07

I'm dehydrated , or I'm exhausted or I'm dirty , and that comes from a lack

52:09

of flow . So your cells let you know when they're unhappy , because they're

52:11

trying to do a phenomenal job for you . But if they don't have what they need

52:13

, which is space , because we're collapsed

52:15

and we're pushing them , they're

52:18

going to start talking to you , and if we

52:20

keep masking it , they're going to talk louder and louder

52:22

until they're so far away you don't even

52:24

hear them anymore . And that's when things can

52:26

get scarier , because now we're in

52:28

a huge state of dis-ease where

52:30

we have so many of our cells not

52:33

being part of the equation , and

52:35

now we're having to slug those cells along

52:37

instead of having them be nice and buoyant

52:40

and light . That's what

52:42

this process does .

52:43

It's like us . I'm going to

52:45

sign up right away . I got to get myself done

52:47

because I need to do it every day . That is great . We're

52:49

going to . I'm going to call you and tell you hey

52:51

, my left shoulder is finally totally healed

52:54

. It's been great . So I'll

52:56

tell you exactly what to do . Awesome

52:59

. I so appreciate you coming on

53:01

. I know we could talk for many more hours and

53:03

I know this won't be the last time that we talk , because

53:06

I'm really excited about bringing some of

53:08

this stuff for my patients to really get you

53:10

know , real release and instead

53:12

of these band-aids , I'm always looking at

53:14

what is the root . What is the root , what is the root and

53:16

always how the body's totally interconnected

53:18

right so we can make such an impact on the

53:20

mouth by remembering that we're

53:22

one body , and so this

53:25

is really exciting . Again , that website

53:27

, guys , is blocktherapycom

53:29

. There are so many amazing

53:31

different programs that she has . Please

53:33

take a look . And again

53:36

, thank you so much and everybody

53:38

, I hope you have a wonderful day . Go

53:40

get your block , or even a towel , and start learning

53:42

to move that fascia so we can all look younger

53:45

, be more flexible and have really

53:47

great lives . Don't forget to breathe . Take

53:50

care everybody . See you next time

53:52

.