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run through all the NBA off-season stuff, free agency

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trades, a couple of draft nuggets here or there.

2:23

But I'm just gonna summarize all the teams.

2:25

Some of them will not be that in

2:27

depth. And we start in order of where

2:30

they're at in the standings and how it's

2:32

listed on nba.com. Just with

2:34

the Celtics, pretty straightforward. They keep Cornette

2:36

Tillman, New Deal's for Tatum White, pretty

2:38

drama free. Baylor Shireman,

2:40

the draft pick, NBA ready in

2:43

this rotation. I don't know, maybe. But

2:46

they wanna bring everybody back and they should bring everybody back

2:48

because they're better positioned than any other team in the NBA.

2:51

Pull this off again. Could you

2:53

look at the persingas part where Brad Stevens shared with

2:55

us and said that he's obviously not gonna be ready

2:57

at the start of the season. The rehab for this

2:59

injury seems to be significant. Horford a year older. So

3:02

there's a few items that I'll bring up with each

3:04

teams. Like if you were being greedy, you

3:06

would say they need to figure out another

3:08

big that's higher up in the rotation to

3:10

have insurance or surpass some of those minutes

3:12

or fill in for those persingas minutes. But

3:15

that's probably what the Cornette Tillman thing is and the

3:17

likelihood that they were gonna be glad. Anybody of significance

3:19

wasn't a reality with the restrictions financially. So that might

3:21

be something to think about, but it doesn't, as I

3:23

say it out loud, it's like, okay, well, how are

3:25

they gonna do that? So pretty standard,

3:28

pretty straightforward and a total win, no drama.

3:30

It's kind of nice, a no drama off

3:32

season for a really good basketball team. Brooklyn,

3:35

the drama leading up to the Bridges trade wasn't

3:38

sure if it would happen. A significant price paid by the

3:40

Knicks. And we'll get to it on the Knicks side of

3:43

this thing, but it makes sense for Brooklyn to be able

3:45

to do this. And also the other deal with Houston

3:47

where if we're doing this, we're going to full tank, we

3:49

want control of our picks back. We're gonna give those Phoenix

3:51

picks. It could be really valuable moving

3:54

forward. So it makes a lot of sense. The Nick Clackston

3:56

deal of four years, a hundred million. I don't seem to

3:58

like him as much as others do. I

4:00

don't hate him. I just knew as soon as that deal

4:02

was done, you're like, man, that's gonna be a big number.

4:05

And sometimes there are teams that resign their own guy that's

4:07

a higher draft pick, especially when they're not quite sure who

4:09

they are as a team and it's like, wow, I guess

4:11

we'll just pay the guy that we drafted. And always remember

4:13

this, if a team drafts somebody and

4:15

it's still the same front office, it means

4:17

that front office still likes that player. And

4:20

they probably still look at him in the most

4:22

positive way. Because they're the team that drafted him

4:24

at some point. So is he a little limited? Yeah,

4:26

I think so. And maybe they just look at it

4:28

as like, we have a value play here with him

4:31

and we had to pay somebody anyway. So it doesn't

4:33

really matter. There's a Cam Johnson decision to be made

4:35

there as well. New York on the other side of

4:37

the Brooklyn part of it, the Bridges trade, I

4:40

do think it's a lot of draft picks, but I don't

4:43

really know. If you could have

4:45

unlimited draft picks traded for a player, would

4:47

it change all of the pricing? If Kevin

4:49

Durant were available two years ago

4:52

to everybody, would

4:54

it just be seven straight first rounders if the

4:56

rules were different? Is it 10 first rounders? If

4:58

you could just do whatever you wanted with all

5:01

your draft picks, is a player

5:03

like that actually kind of worth that? So

5:05

if you look at it that way, knowing that that's

5:07

not really the case because we have more restrictions on it,

5:10

I don't hate it, I get it. And I actually really

5:13

like what New York could potentially

5:15

do here. The OG deal feels like a lot for five

5:17

years, 212.5 million, because

5:19

of what you'll be asking him to do now offensively.

5:22

That's a lot for that kind of player, but you knew

5:24

they had to do it because if they had lost OG

5:27

and then it's all the assets they did in the OG

5:29

deal and all the assets they moved in the Bridges deal,

5:31

it's like this, it's unfair math,

5:33

but you could look at it as, wait,

5:36

all of this for just the

5:38

K.L. Bridges? That doesn't make a ton of sense. I

5:41

am excited about what they could potentially be as a small

5:43

ball team. I don't know if Tibbs will ever do it,

5:46

but OG at the center, and then you run all the

5:48

other wings out there and then figure out who you wanna

5:50

bring off the bench of. It's not Mitchell Robinson, and obviously

5:52

it hurts a lot to lose Hartenstein, but

5:54

you weren't, you were restricted by only being able to pay him

5:56

four years and 78 million. OKC blows him

5:58

out of the water, goes. higher on money with

6:00

one less year so they couldn't keep it. So

6:02

yeah, I'm worried about Mitchell Robinson who's

6:05

played 90 games combined the last two seasons. But

6:07

if you wanted Bridges and you wanted OG back,

6:09

that's the point, is you're gonna have to like kind

6:12

of lose out on other guys. Philadelphia,

6:14

maybe the headline winner of anybody in the

6:16

offseason, because they pulled off something that is

6:18

really, really hard. Saving calf space and

6:20

hoping it works on a high impact player even

6:22

with the flaws of somebody like Paul Georgia, 34

6:25

years old. Because I really think if they had

6:27

completely whipped on this, then it transitions into a

6:29

whole another conversation of like how long is MB,

6:31

even though their failures in the playoffs have as

6:33

much to do with him as anybody else would

6:36

MB. Because star players don't go like actually it's me.

6:39

And it's not all on him, but to

6:41

that point, another year of stagnant behind

6:43

a bunch of other teams in the East,

6:45

even healthy, not healthy. I think

6:48

that becomes a completely different challenging situation.

6:50

And now you don't have to worry

6:52

about that whatsoever. The Maxi extension, no

6:54

issues. Kelly Ubre who I've never

6:56

really loved but I thought was terrific for

6:58

them last year, that size, that kind of

7:00

shooting. And really took on the challenge of

7:02

some things. So if you're getting that version

7:04

back these next couple of

7:06

years with him, that's a great number for him.

7:09

Drumming two years and 10 million. Now

7:11

just a big physical backup option

7:13

in the games where MB is probably being

7:16

managed a little bit more. So this

7:18

is just an absolute slam dunk in an

7:20

offseason. They also brought back Aaron

7:22

Gordon. Toronto, not a slam dunk

7:24

offseason. Let's talk about some of these numbers. Scotty

7:27

Barnes, five years, 225 million. It

7:29

was reported five years, 270 million. But

7:31

that's if he qualifies for the Super Max by

7:33

making one of the three all-MBA teams, wins the

7:35

MVP or defensive player of the year, the Rudy

7:37

Super Max rule where you go, actually should we

7:40

have defensive player of the year qualify this for

7:42

Super Max? I would say no. But

7:45

as much as I love Scotty Barnes,

7:47

you're paying him, I

7:50

know that's the deal that you had to do for him and that's

7:52

fine. It's just always, every now and then you go, could you just

7:54

done 198 million for him? Cause

7:57

he's not quite, but that's just not the way it worked. And it's not the way

7:59

it worked when I was- was younger when they just had the

8:01

seven year max deals for players. It was like, Hey,

8:03

I'm the best player on this team. I get a

8:05

seven year max and that's the way it works. And

8:07

you just hope that you're paying your seven year max

8:09

back then. Or in this case, the five year max,

8:11

you're paying one of the

8:14

15 best players in the league, 20 best

8:16

players in the league and Scotty Barnes, maybe flirts with that.

8:18

And the thing is, again, I really like him. I

8:20

do really like him, but I feel like for him, that's a

8:22

huge number, but not as huge as the other numbers you start adding

8:24

up because quickly it gets five years, I had 175 million. So

8:27

35 million a year for him. Um,

8:30

they added Davion Mitchell and

8:33

was then cough and the trade with Sacramento. But

8:36

when I look at them collectively going, all right,

8:39

they turned the page on Siakam, they let van

8:41

Vliet leave. They trade OG and an OB. And

8:44

now they've turned the page to paying 79 million

8:46

this year to quickly RJ Barrett and Bruce Brown,

8:48

who they picked up his $23 million team option.

8:52

Which is just when that deal was done, the

8:54

idea that he would have the second year option

8:56

picked up and as nice

8:58

as a player as Bruce Brown is. That's a staggering

9:00

number. And then next year it's going to be about

9:02

$99 million. And Scotty

9:05

Barnes quickly and RJ for what it

9:08

feels like collectively the top three guys, whether it's

9:10

this year or next year, Toronto's paying the wrong

9:12

guys, a hundred million combined Denver. Okay.

9:14

Let's do the fair part of this. It's

9:16

fair to say letting KCP go. Means

9:19

they have absolutely no bench for a bench. It was

9:21

already one of the worst benches in the NBA, Christian

9:24

Brown, who I think we all like because

9:26

of an activities competitiveness. We don't like the

9:28

shooting, but now he's the start. So

9:31

the ad Ryan done the big defensive wing from

9:33

Virginia, who teams rave about him defensively, Strahter,

9:35

who they've already taken. Peyton Watson, whose energy

9:37

is terrific. And then Hunter Tyson, who I

9:40

kind of liked at the combine two years

9:42

ago. But some

9:44

of these guys are going to have to pull, they're just

9:46

going to have to play. And we could say some of

9:48

them are going to have to step up. Well, I don't

9:50

know about that, but they're actually just going to have to

9:52

pay. Now here's

9:55

what I think is kind of unfair about this, because if

9:57

you look at a collectively going, how are you letting this

9:59

happen around your kitchen? best buyer in the world

10:01

in his prime and not paying a little bit

10:03

more. I don't really care about billionaires tax savings.

10:07

Uh, I don't, but if

10:10

you look at each thing individually, and this is why I

10:12

want to do Toronto into Denver. If

10:15

you go back to Bruce Brown, getting that

10:17

contract, you

10:19

can't pay him that if you're Denver,

10:21

you can't, it worked out for Brown. It

10:23

worked out for the Pacers. I

10:26

don't know that it works out for

10:28

Toronto. Cause it's

10:30

such a big number, but if he's going to be

10:32

getting two years, 48 million second year, again,

10:34

a team option, Denver, like you

10:37

can't add that to the list of going, I can't

10:39

believe Denver is doing this because I completely believe Denver

10:42

did that last year and understand why they

10:44

did it. And I wouldn't have done it

10:46

now. KCP, which version of the story do you want to

10:48

tell? You need him defensively. You don't have

10:50

any bench. He hits three point shots. He spaces the

10:52

floor a little bit. He's not that old. Um,

10:55

okay. But he's also the fifth

10:57

option who you kind of don't notice sometimes.

11:00

And are you supposed to pay him 22 million over

11:03

the next three? So I

11:06

think you can look at it two ways where

11:09

if, if you go transaction by transaction

11:11

with Denver, it can actually

11:14

be positioned as a little unfair, considering

11:16

the players and the numbers that they're

11:18

at. Some will disagree, certainly on

11:20

the KCP part, Minnesota, pretty boring, pretty straightforward.

11:22

This is what happens in Japan. As many

11:24

guys as they're paying. They lose Kyle Anderson.

11:26

They brought back Luke Garza. Um,

11:29

but you're just going to run it back and have

11:31

a little patience. And I love them getting back into

11:33

the lottery to get Dillingham because I think they desperately

11:35

needed another on-ball creator beyond

11:37

Connelly's limitations, McDaniel's limitations. And even with

11:40

Kyle Anderson, who's down at this connector, we'll talk

11:42

about him with Golden State a little bit later.

11:45

Um, that's just those kinds of guys, like you're not going to be able

11:47

to keep. So I thought it was very

11:49

proactive them getting back in the lottery. And I like it. And

11:51

I do think that as much as I'd love to see cat

11:53

away from ant, eventually, um,

11:57

it may be about, look, if he had just

11:59

been decent. maybe they're in

12:01

the NBA finals and they're still built

12:04

to beat Denver. Who knows

12:07

what would happen against OKC? They're in the mix.

12:10

And the same way that I talked about

12:12

with Philadelphia bringing Paul George the beginning of

12:14

the year, they are in the mix. And

12:16

maybe there's a patience lesson there

12:18

post Boston and other

12:21

people wondering how long they would run it with

12:23

those two guys and obviously at work. OKC,

12:26

probably in that Philly, New York range of

12:28

winners in the offseason, the Caruso trade makes

12:30

a ton of sense. Hartenstein, it's a big

12:32

number, but now they're everyone's favorites in the

12:35

West because they address probably the most glaring

12:37

need of having a real center option with

12:39

the bad rebounding numbers last year and seeing

12:41

them just having Chet get his

12:44

ass kicked in some of these matchups, which

12:46

is him being younger, body type and everything.

12:48

But this is like huge news for Chet.

12:52

They also kept Isaiah Joe at four years,

12:54

48 million total win, Aaron Wiggins, five

12:57

years, 47 million really nice deals. Moving

12:59

forward, long term deals on low

13:01

numbers for players that are real contributors.

13:04

Certainly Joe and his spacing on top of everything

13:06

else and Wiggins like kind of does a lot

13:08

of different things. Those are just gonna be really,

13:10

really nice numbers as the cap continues to go

13:12

up. If I were adding

13:14

to the greedy list, I'd say another on ball

13:17

creator. And

13:20

maybe that's just because Jamie Williams is disappointing

13:23

in the playoffs in that Dallas series, I'd expect that

13:25

he would be better. I'm gonna probably be saying this

13:27

all off season and going into some of our preview

13:29

stuff with him as well. And now

13:31

having Caruso as a spacer and defender

13:33

to take some of the burden off

13:35

some of the other guys that are supposed to be scores

13:37

and not just defenders. Makes a lot of sense

13:39

for them on top of the ludor part of it. So huge,

13:43

huge win. I don't know what they're gonna do with Hartenstein

13:45

and Chet. I imagine there's gonna be matchups, they're gonna try

13:47

them both. Maybe that's how they roll it

13:49

out there and start them. Because they

13:51

paid him so much and then they adjusted a little

13:53

bit later on. But

13:55

I think they have the options here to look

13:58

differently against different matchups which I think all

14:00

of us love. Portland,

14:03

pretty quiet. This is a tank team,

14:06

a value buy on Denny Avdia. Makes

14:09

sense. If you look

14:11

at the tanking odds flattening, and we brought

14:14

this up when the trade was made during

14:16

the draft, where you go, well, why would

14:18

you make yourselves a

14:20

little bit better than another team

14:22

who now is in a full tank mode in

14:25

Washington? Aren't you helping them and maybe

14:27

getting in your own way? Well, with the odds

14:29

flattening, and you look at the latest 25

14:31

title odds, there's six teams that are 1,001 payout. That's

14:34

the worst

14:36

or the biggest payout you could actually

14:38

get. So let's just say the six

14:40

worst teams, according to Vegas, it's Brooklyn,

14:42

it's Charlotte, it's Portland, it's Utah, Detroit,

14:44

Washington. We could argue that maybe Washington

14:46

should be lower than Utah.

14:49

I would agree with you, but you get the

14:51

point here. There's not a lot to dig in.

14:53

Utah and the other side of it, they

14:56

replaced your seven with Drew

14:58

Eubanks. I think it's a slight upgrade. And

15:00

all of us are just waiting on marketing. Should the

15:03

price be higher than Bridges? Yeah, I think so.

15:05

Slightly higher. But

15:08

then considering how high the price was

15:10

on Bridges, but then you wonder, is the Bridges price

15:12

so high because the Knicks were paying a Knicks tax

15:14

to do a deal with Brooklyn, which is probably

15:16

a little bit of it. But here's

15:19

the one thing I would wonder about marketing

15:21

is can you really run if you don't

15:23

get your price, and this is the way

15:25

Zanuck and Ange will operate, is

15:28

they'll let you bid against

15:30

yourselves. And they're probably a

15:32

team that will bid against themselves. The Spurs

15:35

are in a tricky spot because it's like,

15:37

well, how much draft capital could we actually

15:39

move? But then it's a bit like the

15:41

Davion Mitchell deal with Cleveland, where you go,

15:43

well, we can wait for the perfect guy.

15:45

But marketing is really good. And ironically, marketing being

15:47

in that original deal, I'd

15:50

imagine they don't want to drag it

15:52

out too much, though, because just

15:55

be bad enough to be in the mix with Washington,

15:57

with a Portland and see if you get into the

15:59

Cooper flag sweepstakes. Chicago. All right.

16:01

I like the giddy trade more than social media

16:04

did because I think he's a better player than

16:06

social media does Jaden Smith three

16:08

years of 27 million That's a fully guaranteed

16:10

deal of a guy that looks like he might be

16:12

able to play in the league a long time But

16:14

wasn't part of the Pacers rotation Really

16:16

in the playoffs, but if you look at

16:19

Jonas Valenzunas at three years 30 million

16:21

guaranteed fully with Washington You

16:24

know, is that a lot for him considering the Valenzunas thing

16:26

or is it just as simple as Smith is 24 Valenzunas

16:28

is 32 so What's

16:32

what's the problem? I think you

16:34

get Chicago obviously a different look with Jaden or

16:36

just adding a backup big that they like Instead

16:40

of Vooch and Jaden in theory

16:42

is supposed to spread the floor a little bit But I don't

16:44

know that that's ever really happened for him But

16:46

here's the however moment of the Chicago Bulls

16:48

offseason Patrick Williams at five years and 90

16:52

90 million fully guaranteed I

16:56

Don't know who you're bidding against there. I mean

16:58

just because the Thunder may have had interest in him at some

17:01

point Well, you already did a deal with the Thunder That's

17:04

a big number for somebody that we're still

17:06

kind of TBD on the offense hasn't really

17:08

taken off I know you can try to

17:10

package them as the defensive stopper who can

17:12

shoot threes because the numbers are right But

17:15

there's just not enough impact there and with

17:17

the injury history, but it could just get

17:19

back to what does happen You took him

17:21

really high. You don't want to give

17:23

up on him this soon He's really young but 90 million

17:25

feels like a big number for somebody that you

17:27

don't even notice sometimes and doesn't even close with

17:30

the closing group For them a lot

17:32

of Cleveland huge win another

17:34

big winner With

17:37

Donovan Mitchell going for three years 150 million

17:40

third-year player option Considering

17:43

so many of us thought that he was gone and

17:46

I do wonder sometimes if we're guilty of just

17:49

We get it from somewhere and then

17:51

the rumor mill can maybe just go in a wheel where

17:53

everybody's just kind of telling each other The same thing that

17:55

they're hearing yet. No one has anything specific about what he's

17:57

going to do And then you were started realize it was

18:00

was cooling that he was just

18:02

going to bounce or demand a trade. And

18:05

we had Nying on who had said he thought

18:07

he was staying. And then I kept pointing out,

18:09

I was like, for a guy that would demand

18:11

and hate the place and want out, he's

18:14

wearing the hat. So that,

18:17

is that a good sign? I think once Bickerstaff was out

18:19

and they brought in Kenny Atkinson, they had a much better

18:21

chance because I don't know that the

18:23

team was responding to

18:26

JB anymore, which happens in coaching. So that

18:28

helped. Um, the

18:30

money helps, which he

18:32

would have gotten anywhere, but the structure of this

18:35

deal works out because the player option, he can

18:37

opt out, uh, in 27. And

18:40

with 10 years of service time, he's

18:43

eligible for a new deal at five years

18:45

and 380 million in 2027. So

18:49

it's not the full length that maybe you

18:51

would hope for, but it puts

18:53

the bed something, uh, so many of

18:56

us thought like, if you go back months ago, a

18:58

lot of us didn't actually think this would

19:00

end up happening because it felt like they

19:03

thought, or all of us thought that Mitchell eventually

19:05

kind of forced his way out of there because Cleveland wasn't

19:07

really his destination to begin with, but now he doesn't want

19:09

to go to Brooklyn because they're terrible.

19:12

Right. And he also, the Knicks,

19:14

there's no spot for him anymore. So

19:16

they all, they obviously have other things to do.

19:19

I still wonder about the Mobley Allen pairing long-term

19:21

and even with Allen being out and kind of

19:23

seeing a better version of Mobley in the playoffs,

19:25

despite losing itself, it's that series that might be

19:27

something. But as far as just what needed to

19:29

be done right now, uh, Cleveland, uh, Cavs

19:33

off season, that was, that was awesome. And

19:35

at least it just feels quiet now, uh,

19:37

on the Mitchell front, Detroit, pretty

19:39

low key, Kade deal, five years back to 226 million

19:41

fine with it. Um,

19:45

it's a bit like the Scotty Barnes conversation

19:47

there a little bit, but I like Kade better,

19:51

but I don't know that there's a huge gap between the two guys.

19:53

Maybe I liked the idea of what Kade could be a

19:56

little bit better than Barnes offensively, but then again,

19:58

some nights, Scotty Barnes has these huge. offensive games

20:00

too. So like, I know that's gonna get turned into

20:02

me not liking him and I do really like him a lot, but as

20:05

much as we could sit here and go like, could

20:07

you just go down a little bit on the average

20:09

annual salary because you're not actually this awesome yet? And

20:11

it's like, no, that's just not the way that it

20:14

works. Added Tim Hardaway for Quentin Grimes, who never really

20:16

got much of a chance for them. I

20:19

don't like that. I know they desperately needed

20:21

to add shooting, but I liked Grimes minutes

20:23

that I saw back with the Knicks and

20:26

they got Wendell Moore for the 53rd pick that

20:29

was Camp Spencer and he never got

20:31

a chance with Minnesota, big athletic wing from Duke, kind

20:33

of liked him out of the draft. So I liked

20:35

that part of it. Tobias Harris, two years full guarantee

20:37

of 52 million. You have that

20:39

much cap space, you're not a good team. Nobody wants

20:41

to go there. Those are the deals you end up

20:43

kind of doing. None of us like it, but I

20:45

totally understand why it happened. The Pacers did their work

20:47

early, right? Like in the post, doing your work early,

20:49

they kept Siakam when the trade happened. I

20:52

remember I had said, okay, but if he's a free agent,

20:54

the Pacers place that he's going to want to stay. As

20:56

soon as I had said on a podcast, somebody reached out

20:58

to me, like he's definitely staying. He is definitely staying. So

21:00

it changed my tune on what that trade was. And

21:03

then the OB top and deal bringing him back, think about

21:05

him, he was dumped for two second rounders in 28 and

21:07

29. And then they

21:09

fit him in perfectly with this fast paced

21:12

athletic Pacers team. And that number is

21:14

really nice for him. And James Wiseman,

21:16

old friend, James Wiseman back in the

21:18

picture, haven't totally given up on him

21:20

yet, probably yet though. Milwaukee,

21:22

I liked Alon Wright, so do a lot of teams.

21:24

This is his ninth one. Golden State,

21:27

I love DeAnthony Melton, AKA Mr.

21:30

Do Something. It's

21:32

his 14, he plays D, he's 26, 37% from three. One

21:36

year at just under $13 million, no brainer. No

21:40

brainer, this guy's good. And Kyle Anderson,

21:42

three years, 27 million, 30

21:44

years non guaranteed on this. He is a

21:46

connector. I do wonder about defensive

21:49

sagging off of him in certain match ups and

21:51

depending on how the minutes are staggered. Is

21:55

that somebody you can play with Draymond? Or is it somebody

21:57

that you never play with Draymond?

22:00

How does that impact some of the

22:02

spacing? Does Golden State have enough spacing now?

22:04

Post clay, because clay still hit

22:06

shots, and it's kind of like when bonds wasn't

22:09

good as last year, people

22:11

still didn't want to throw them strikes. And

22:13

I'm not saying you would ever sag off of clay, but you

22:15

get the point. Like when it's clay Thompson open, you're

22:17

gonna run out there. And look, the numbers are actually still

22:19

pretty good from three anyway, so maybe that's a bad comparison.

22:24

And I just think it's important, I'm gonna

22:26

say this a lot, you cannot

22:28

criticize them for not using the Chris Paul

22:30

$30 million contract, because

22:33

it was gonna become guaranteed if you were traded. Who

22:37

and for what? What team was doing

22:39

that? And who are you getting for

22:41

Chris Paul to be, as much as I love him on

22:43

the other team's roster, for $30 million

22:45

next year? I

22:48

don't think that's a long list. Clippers, a lot to get

22:50

to here. Gotta keep it under 30 minutes.

22:52

Don't know if we'll get there. We spent a

22:55

lot of time on this already. They feel a little Golden

22:57

State-ish, for just

22:59

kind of transitioning out of some of the things and then

23:01

trying to pick up the pieces here. They added Batum, Derrick

23:03

Jones Jr., three years, 30

23:05

million in that Kyle Anderson range.

23:08

I think that one's fully guaranteed though. Kevin Porter Jr.

23:10

getting another chance at a Chris Dunn. Mo

23:12

Bamba. No one

23:15

will ever give up on Mo Bamba. The

23:18

James Harden deal. All right, two years, 70 million.

23:20

The second year, I still think is a player option.

23:22

When it was first reported, it was a player option,

23:24

but now when it's in the salary databases, it says

23:27

guaranteed. So granted, it's guaranteed to

23:29

him if he wants to come back for

23:31

that. I don't know who else is paying James Harden 35 million. I

23:33

don't know where else he's going for that 35 million. Maybe

23:36

it felt like Post Paul George didn't want to screw around

23:39

and they wanted to make sure they brought him

23:41

back. Feels like a really high number for him

23:43

despite the productivity and the salary projections because every

23:45

single statistical model that says, okay, well, this is

23:47

what you are and this is what you're worth.

23:50

I mean, there are some models that said he was worth even more than 35 million

23:52

a year, but the reality of it

23:54

is once Philly was gone, wasn't going to Orlando,

23:56

he wasn't going to Detroit, he wasn't going to

23:58

Charlotte. You know, was there

24:00

a way he was going to go to OKC or

24:02

San Antonio or whatever? So I, you

24:04

know, I've never, I never want

24:07

to be arrogant enough to go. There is no one else

24:09

they're bidding against because there's so many times that we don't

24:11

know all the parts of it. That just felt like a

24:13

high number in this market. So

24:16

the second April part of it with Paul George, as

24:19

we talked about earlier this week, um,

24:22

it really is about the fourth year because if they wanted

24:24

to, I mean, they still were going to give him the

24:26

huge number for the first three years of, of

24:28

whatever they wanted to give him. And I kept thinking about

24:31

Paul George and how impressionable he is and that he wanted

24:33

to go to LA, but it's almost like he felt bad.

24:35

So we didn't want to leave OKC until he was like,

24:37

okay, now you can get me out of OKC once you

24:39

get that extension. And you know

24:41

that indeed is probably working it because he desperately

24:43

needs Paul George and all that stuff. So I

24:45

think that stuff works on Paul George and then the

24:48

free agency meeting where he's wearing an Allen Iverson t-shirt

24:50

and all this stuff. The whole point, like whenever

24:52

I was thinking about this stuff, I started thinking about

24:54

Kawhi and how Kawhi is probably one of

24:56

the worst guys you can have is the other guy to be

24:58

like, Hey dude, let's run this back. Everything will be fine.

25:02

He's like, he'll probably get back to the States and

25:04

go, what happened? Like, oh,

25:06

Mo Bamba, nice to meet you. How long have you been in the league?

25:09

Uh, Lakers a little bit like Denver. There's

25:12

a fair and there's an unfair part of this just because

25:14

they didn't use the future picks to

25:17

find this mysterious third guy, uh, doesn't

25:19

mean they did anything wrong. I

25:21

like the Lakers off season, except for another

25:23

part that we're going to get to here with some of

25:25

the breaking news. So the big three thing, the

25:27

model of it's basically an endangered species. Philly

25:30

has it right now, but

25:32

the big three that we all have almost

25:35

required out of a contender, it doesn't.

25:40

It does. It's just not going to exist as much

25:42

as it used to. Phoenix has a big three right

25:44

now. Right. Um, but

25:46

not wanting to move the picks in 27 and 29 post Anthony Davis. And

25:52

I would imagine at that point post LeBron and

25:55

they, they keep Austin Reeves instead

25:58

of what doing a J'Nante. Murray deal. I

26:02

don't mind the Lakers not doing this. But

26:06

because it's the Lakers, because it's the LeBron's

26:08

timeline, because they got the pick back, once

26:11

the New Orleans part of it was decided, and

26:15

they didn't do anything at the trade deadline. And then

26:17

it's like, okay, well, now they're in control of all these things. So who

26:19

are they adding? Who are they adding? And

26:21

the Trey Young part of it, and

26:24

we'll get to that with Atlanta a little bit later on, it

26:27

would have been exciting. It would have been a

26:29

big headline. It probably would have changed some media

26:31

members like projection on who the Lakers are going

26:33

to be. Because I think Trey Young would make more

26:35

sense of the team that already has established people there than

26:37

him just getting the keys to another franchise. But

26:40

I don't have an issue with them having patience and

26:42

not wanting to move these assets. And I think those are

26:44

real assets with Lakers in 20, seven, 29, because you have

26:46

no idea what this team is going to look like. But

26:49

we got breaking news from Mo just morning LeBron two years,

26:51

$104 million player

26:53

option in the second year. So

26:55

a little less than the full

26:58

of what had been thought he would need

27:00

three years 160 just from the

27:02

Lakers. So a little Boris

27:05

magic on that one. It was like, hey, we only

27:07

paid him $104 million. What a discount.

27:10

However, if the current number projections are accurate on

27:12

this, and this has already been touched on on

27:14

the story in the reporting of this deal, if

27:16

they're $1 million over the second apron because of

27:18

this number, then you

27:20

can't complain if you're LeBron, you cannot

27:23

complain all season long about the lack of

27:25

activity or lack of

27:27

options. Because your contract is the

27:29

reason there's lack of options. Now agents and

27:33

the players side of it say, hey, that's bullshit,

27:35

like figure it out. There's

27:37

not the figuring it out flexibility that

27:39

we always can't like there's times in the years

27:41

past rides a guy, they'll probably just kind of

27:43

figure out third team it because so many

27:45

times that actually ended up being the solution to thinking a

27:48

team had no options. It's like, Oh, actually, they could have

27:50

done this done it. The second apron

27:52

stuff, if this number puts them over the

27:54

second apron, and what if they're not good? What

27:56

if they're six, seven, eighth range or

27:58

something like that? Maybe they're four. I don't

28:00

know, but I'm open to it. But you get

28:02

my point. If it's not really what you'd expect

28:05

or maybe what LeBron expects, but then his

28:07

contract is getting in the way, can he

28:09

actually play the card of the passive aggressive

28:11

team better do something because they haven't done

28:13

anything in a while? So

28:16

that number, it kind of

28:18

needs to come under the second

28:20

apron or you don't get to complain. But

28:22

I also know this, that years passed when LeBron, it

28:25

was like, I should never be taking a pay cut. And I would

28:27

agree with him, okay? But

28:29

now once the other numbers are established and then

28:32

your number is the last number, okay?

28:37

No problem, you got your money. But now you cannot

28:39

go, hey, how come we're not doing anything?

28:43

Phoenix, Royce O'Neil, four years, 44 million. Kind

28:46

of stuck, bird rights trap, bull,

28:49

bull back. Monty Morris, actually thrilled

28:51

for Phoenix to be able to add

28:53

any kind of rotational piece considering their

28:55

own restrictions right now. Sacramento, getting

28:57

Malik Monk back in this market with the

29:00

concern with Orlando, maybe some of the else,

29:02

Paul George's day with the Clippers, is there

29:04

some DeRozan Monk thing that Philadelphia does going

29:06

beyond the number that Sacramento was allowed to

29:08

pay him kind of like the Hartstein rule

29:10

there. It's

29:14

so big for Sacramento because he's such a big part of what

29:16

they do and they know exactly what they're getting. There's not gonna

29:18

be like new guy smell and I'm wondering if he's somewhere else

29:20

if he's gonna get the same kind of output. So

29:23

I love that for them. And then adding Devin

29:26

Carter kind of made Davion Mitchell a

29:28

little redundant. Carter has more offense than

29:30

Mitchell does for a

29:32

different player in Jaylen McDaniels. So

29:36

cool with that. Atlanta, Murray

29:38

out for Dyson Daniels who I still have some stock

29:40

on because I just feel like he's so smart, was

29:42

good defensively, but I just didn't really, he was kind

29:44

of up and down, hurt, and then kind of out

29:47

of the rotation with the Pelicans at

29:49

times. Larry Nance who gives you a different look, but

29:51

a real rotation guy, especially if you want to be

29:53

smaller with a big player. But

29:56

they get the Lakers 25th or excuse me. me

30:00

the first in the in year 25. Um and then the

30:03

worst of the Bucks New Orleans pick

30:05

in 27. So, with the

30:07

Murray, who he is as a

30:09

player and because of the contract, you feel

30:11

like you probably still could have gotten a

30:13

little bit more but I

30:16

think the league likes him. I don't think the league

30:18

loves him and of course,

30:20

there was just no Trey Young Market and I think

30:22

if they had forced themselves in a situation to go,

30:24

okay, we're actually going to do this whatever the package

30:26

was coming back. Hawks

30:30

fans would have gone, are you serious? Might as well just kept

30:32

him and that's kind of

30:34

what I think happened there. Charlotte, Reggie Jackson for

30:37

three second routers. I think all

30:39

unprotected. Exciting. Um

30:41

might be worth something to someone else

30:43

as an on-ball but man, the numbers

30:46

get really bad with him. He's

30:48

basically even a net negative. Um

30:51

and I remember there's this piece of **** media member in

30:53

Detroit that called me out for not liking Reggie Jackson.

30:56

He crossed the line. We'll leave it at

30:58

that. Uh but he did

31:00

play all 82 games last year. They

31:03

just have to figure out who their draft picks are. They

31:05

completely nailed it on Miller. There's a lamello question

31:08

later on. We'll worry about it later. Mark Williams, Salon

31:11

and then you've got this kind of

31:13

Miles Bridges thing lingering where with all

31:15

of his stuff, clearly the market is

31:17

depressed which totally understandable but I

31:19

wondered, I wondered if a good team would

31:21

just go, alright, we'll bring him in because we're already

31:24

kind of good and this makes us even better and

31:26

then that means the fans will just go, oh, this

31:29

guy sucks but our team's a little bit better

31:31

which is kind of what happens. So,

31:34

we'll see what happens there. I don't know if the

31:36

Clippers could do that and Kevin Porter Junior. Um

31:39

that would probably be asking a lot of a

31:41

team to sign off on that. Let's keep flying.

31:43

Miami, Kevin Love and three guys I forgot about.

31:46

Orlando. Alright, a lot of stuff here. They

31:49

signed their own guys with cap space. That's what they were

31:51

gonna do. Oh, didn't

31:53

make it in under 30. That's alright. We're gonna keep going

31:56

here folks. Because

31:58

Orlando's important. KCP, I don't

32:02

know if he's going to be your point

32:04

guard in this, but maybe he and Suggs

32:06

allow you to kind of change who starts

32:08

the attack. And I kind of like not

32:10

having a, I need the ball every single

32:13

time, Raja and Rondo type point guard because

32:15

of Ben Caro. I do not want to

32:17

take the ball out of Ben Caro's hands

32:20

initiating offense. So KCP

32:22

being a non-traditional guy who's also

32:24

comfortable off the ball, I

32:27

think is a big win. I think

32:29

you're adding another defensive guy to what is

32:31

an incredible group here defensively. Bataze,

32:33

three years, 25 million,

32:35

maybe a little high for him. Gary

32:37

Harris, two years, 14 million. Mo Wagner, two years,

32:39

22 million. Valenciunas is setting

32:42

the market at 10 or the Jaden Smith

32:44

deal, we're talking about at nine. That's

32:46

kind of where these players are going. I think 11 for

32:49

Mo Wagner is totally reasonable. But Jonathan Isaac

32:51

deals a little weird. It's five years, 84 million.

32:54

His career he's played per season, 27 games, 75 games, 34

32:56

games, zero games, zero games, 11

33:00

games, and then 58, where we all fell in love with

33:02

them all over again, because he became

33:04

this defensive freak, which I know he

33:06

always kind of was, but now it

33:08

was like really crazy offensively. I

33:11

don't know that there's going to be anything there. The

33:13

problem is it happened. The good

33:15

season happened right as he

33:18

was going into the final year of a contract. There was

33:20

a non-guaranteed number at like 17, 18 million dollars. So

33:23

basically they just kind of reset the whole thing,

33:26

keep him at the same average annual salary. But

33:29

it just, with his injury history, as

33:31

much as we all loved it last year, it

33:33

feels like a big

33:36

commitment. But maybe some of these guys

33:38

that are still young, south of 20 million annually,

33:40

is the new

33:43

kind of normal for a

33:45

guy where you're like, yeah, you know, he's all right.

33:47

We pay him 18 million bucks a year. The

33:50

Wizards, they trade. Avdia, we already

33:52

mentioned. Valenschün

33:54

is, maybe it's to help with

33:56

SAR. I don't think mentor,

33:59

when I think Valenschün is. Eunice, I

34:01

have no information on that. Maybe,

34:03

maybe it's just protecting SARA

34:05

a little bit, depending on how you

34:08

wanna use him, because it feels like he's more pick and

34:10

pop, which is also a little bit like Valence Eunice. They've

34:13

got three more years of pool, which is great if you

34:15

are a tanking team. They have

34:18

the Kuzma asset, Brogdon

34:20

now on the roster as an asset potentially, and then

34:22

they get the Ties Jones situation as an unrestricted free

34:24

agent. I love Ties Jones, I do, so I don't

34:26

know if there's a sign and trade in there. Dallas,

34:28

so think of it this way. You

34:31

move out, Derek Jones Jr., who was a

34:33

revelation for them defensively, but just not a

34:35

safe bet offensively. If you got it one

34:37

night, great. You didn't get the pencil in

34:39

for the next night. Tim Hardaway, who

34:42

was totally on the outs there. So

34:44

you move that out for Clay Thompson

34:48

and Najee Marshall, who I love, and

34:51

I'm telling you, there's a little bit

34:53

of like, hey, they got

34:55

crimes out of that. So Clay

34:58

off the ball, whatever you

35:00

think of Clay, Clay off the ball

35:02

in how Dallas runs their offense is

35:07

so much better than

35:09

what they've already had. It

35:12

really is. I mean, beyond the Kyrie,

35:14

Luca part of it. So I love it

35:17

for them, and I love that Najee can run your

35:19

offense, play defense. I mean, he just do a lot

35:21

of different things. I don't know that the stats are

35:23

gonna wow you, but when you watch him, he's just

35:25

comfortable in a bunch of different scenarios. Houston,

35:27

we already talked about the Brooklyn part of it

35:30

with the picks getting them back, but Phoenix 27

35:32

and 29, I love those picks. And

35:35

you didn't really get to keep Brooklyn's picks

35:38

in the tanking version of it because they weren't gonna do the Bridges part

35:40

unless they were back in control of their stuff. And

35:42

a little love for AJ Griffin. The

35:45

lottery questions about him were about his injury

35:47

history, not his actual playing ability. In Atlanta,

35:49

he just got stuck. You get stuck behind

35:51

all these other guys. So I

35:54

think it's totally worth a flyer on

35:56

him because he's really not had much of a

35:58

chance to even play Aaron Holiday back. two years,

36:00

10 million. Memphis holding

36:02

pattern for Ja, Zach Edie stuff. Zach Edie is going to

36:04

put up some numbers and some games and it's going to

36:06

be kind of funny because it's going to turn into like,

36:08

whoa, thought everybody thought this guy and

36:11

it's like, well, no, it's just what are you going to

36:13

actually want to be as a basketball team? And if you're

36:15

playing E with Ja, what's happening

36:17

to some of his driving? New

36:20

Orleans, two more teams. Dejante

36:22

Murray, it does make him better. Dyson,

36:27

maybe him being included with the other two picks feels like

36:29

you're getting three picks if you're Atlanta. So now

36:31

it's Herb Jones, Murphy, and Murray. I think

36:33

Dejante Murray has this awesome defensive rep though.

36:35

I didn't see it last year in Atlanta.

36:37

I think Hawks fans and Quinn Snyder would

36:39

agree. So maybe he was just so

36:41

frustrated with Atlanta. I think he was really frustrated with the

36:43

Trae Young part of it. And

36:46

now he's somewhere else. So now he's a little bit now

36:49

he's locking in a little bit more and you're not looking

36:51

to be a defensive stopper with the wing stuff that you

36:53

have on top of everything else. So

36:56

it gets them away from the small, small guard

36:59

back court thing that they could run into a

37:01

little bit. But I also think

37:03

Zion should get point guard possessions because

37:05

it's still when he's at his best ball on

37:07

his hand side attack gets

37:10

a little momentum. I've yet to see

37:12

anybody solve that one because he's actually a pretty good

37:14

passer out of it too. But I think whatever the

37:16

talent level was for New Orleans prior to the day

37:18

to the Murray trade, obviously, it is higher the day

37:20

after and the best for last Chris

37:22

Paul, the San Antonio Spurs. And

37:27

maybe a trade piece if they want to. Okay,

37:30

I want to bring in Saruti because

37:33

we've got the magic did a lot of different things here. And

37:36

look, if you have one or two or whatever

37:38

of a few things that I said there that

37:40

you very disagree on, but let's start with the

37:42

magic and give you the floor

37:44

concert. Yeah, you know, one

37:46

of the teams of the cap space and everyone's I

37:48

think everybody excited about the Paul George thing. I never

37:50

really fell into that trap. You know, it was fun

37:52

to play around with on Twitter, but I think it

37:54

was just good to be back in the next again

37:56

with good players who potentially want to play there because

37:58

theoretically in Florida. They throw it around there

38:01

no state tax, but it is a thing is that tax on there.

38:03

Yeah, what's up? I've heard

38:05

you ever heard that before. Yeah, it's a it's fun. Um,

38:07

I It's just good

38:09

to be back in the mix with some of these

38:11

guys that are big names that actually want to play

38:14

major Relevant competent franchise again after a good season to

38:16

have a good offseason like this where you're in the

38:18

mix That's that's kind of all I could ask for.

38:20

I like the KCP deal. I it's probably a straight

38:22

overpay But he's a clear

38:24

upgrade on Gary Harris And I think

38:26

nobody's happier than Bill because Bill I think was the

38:28

most mad I've ever seen anyone at one player during

38:30

a playoff Series was he was that mad at Gary

38:32

Harris last year? I think Gary Harris

38:34

got a little too much flack. He didn't shoot well

38:36

in that series, but he was still good defensively But

38:38

KCP he's kind of like the perfect

38:41

guy that you need if you're not getting like a

38:43

bona fide dude star type player So, you know, you

38:45

probably do the fronds extension We'll see what Suggs gets

38:47

and Paula takes another step and I think they have

38:49

the fifth best odds in the East this year I

38:51

like where we're at. What do you think of

38:53

the Isaac deal? I Hear what you're saying

38:57

but And like

38:59

there were times last year I think in was it in the

39:01

playoffs I forget there was a torch the end of the regular

39:03

season where he like pop he did something to his knee and

39:05

you're like Oh, here we go. It was fun for a couple

39:07

weeks and then this is it you're

39:10

probably gonna have that for every single

39:12

season of whatever the rest of this contract is but

39:14

I Genuinely, I said this last

39:16

offseason people laughed at me, but I he's

39:18

a genuine defensive player of the year candidate He

39:20

is he could potentially be the single best defensive

39:23

player in the league Maybe not named when be

39:25

just because of all the crazy stuff you

39:27

could do But I mean Isaac is a

39:29

true can guard all five positions guy and is

39:31

a havoc reaker. So I Think

39:35

he had to bring him back. I don't know what the numbers were

39:37

I'm not I don't know like you would probably know better than me

39:39

Were there other teams that would have given them that I

39:41

think he probably would want to stay there I think he seems to like

39:43

it there and that's the thing about this magic team is they

39:45

all like each other man It's like a could it's

39:47

like a good high school college team vibe and I'm

39:49

glad they brought mo back because mo is awesome It's

39:52

a great number My only thing is

39:54

they have a lot of dudes. They just have too many guys

39:56

So I wonder if there's like a trade coming. I mean, I'd

39:58

love marketing too much. Yep Well,

40:00

I not not too much debt. Well, I guess they

40:03

have a lot of young guys. What's Jed Howard gonna do?

40:05

They really like him. He didn't play really at all last

40:07

year. I like you really like black Well,

40:10

yeah, of course. I mean this goes back to your hey, they drafted

40:12

him after one year. They're not gonna be actually we screwed up What's

40:14

that? Let's get rid of this guy But

40:17

I like Anthony black. I thought he should have played more last year But

40:19

you know if you're if who's he playing

40:21

at I think you know, that's why I think

40:23

it's that Cleveland thing Are

40:26

they gonna is Garland gonna be okay with Mitchell coming back?

40:28

This didn't seem like he was at the end of last

40:30

season and if and if Mitchell's there Does

40:33

that make garland potentially available if I'm the magic?

40:35

That's the number one guy I'm going after Yeah,

40:37

I think using the caps based on their own guys

40:39

They're really like knowing that I mean

40:41

who do they pass on right unless they wanted

40:43

to add to Rosen to it But I know

40:46

this the rose that was gonna be fascinating like we'll

40:48

see Where he actually ends up

40:50

and all this because apparently he doesn't want to

40:53

go back to Chicago after the Caruso thing But

40:55

it's only landing spot does he okay, but what

40:57

if it's like, okay, where else

41:00

words you're gonna go dude Unless he just

41:02

won years at some back to San Antonio, but but

41:04

look at that age Maybe

41:06

maybe San Antonio would do it because look

41:09

they were pretty proactive about like being happy

41:11

to have them Drosan has extended this beyond

41:13

because he's he's not this modern player

41:15

So there were kind of doubts about him and

41:18

going to Chicago. I mean it was a complete slam

41:20

dunk and it'd been a great deal on their part

41:22

and it wasn't like highly praised when they did it

41:24

at the time, but I This

41:27

LeBron second apron thing is fucking crazy though

41:30

crazier than the Bronnie James

41:32

contract What do

41:34

you get four years guaranteed? Almost

41:37

a million dollars second round pick. Hey, man

41:40

Happy for you funny. Imagine a Bronnie's good. Like

41:42

what if I hope he's good develops. Yeah Yeah,

41:46

I'm not rooting against the kid It's just man like they just

41:48

keep these stories keep coming out one after

41:50

another and you're like man This

41:52

is I think my favorite favorite part though of

41:55

some of the Bronnie coverage And I thought it

41:57

was pretty fair about all of the pieces that

41:59

go into it is if

42:01

you had to give me

42:03

like, I don't know if a mock draft would

42:05

be the right thing or if there was just

42:07

a back and forth snake draft with somebody else.

42:09

If I had to pick the media members that

42:11

somehow love nepotism all of a sudden, that also

42:13

think that, oh boy, Haitlin Clark shouldn't be on

42:15

the Olympic team. I just,

42:17

I could just go like, okay, you'll say

42:20

this. And then you'll say, and

42:22

look, making the Lakers as the 55th pick is

42:24

not the same as being on the Olympic team.

42:26

And I don't know enough about women's hoops to

42:28

fully like break it down. Although I caught some

42:30

of the fever and aces last night. Whoa,

42:32

flight back. Yeah, I caught a lot of it. It

42:35

was on. Well, I'll admit I was shoulder

42:37

watching because the person next to

42:39

me had it on and I was watching

42:41

Merrick Kingstown. And then I

42:44

caught myself like watching possessions and watching it over

42:46

and over again. I was like, oh, okay. So

42:50

I would like, I don't know if that draft exists

42:52

and it would probably hurt. I just was weird

42:54

that all of a sudden people, some

42:56

people were like, no, no, nepotism is awesome now. Oh,

42:59

is it? Or let me tell you

43:01

why this isn't nepotism. That's

43:04

a good one too. The mental gymnastics of some

43:06

of this stuff. And here's the thing, I don't care. I like

43:08

the Brian's in the league. I think you do too. I don't

43:11

have any, I really don't actually have an issue with it at

43:13

all, but like, let's just call it what it is. It's okay.

43:15

It's all right, guys. Yeah, yeah.

43:18

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45:28

He's made a lot of Pro Bowls even more

45:30

impressive. He's made a lot of all pro teams

45:32

and he's from the Philadelphia Eagles. And he's a

45:34

vet now. It's Lane Johnson. What's up? What's

45:36

going on, man? Yeah, training camps right

45:38

around the corner. So getting in

45:41

shape the best I can and seeing

45:43

the family. So getting ready. Okay,

45:46

and I say a vet because you know, people can talk

45:48

about how the Kelsey's gone, you know, Lane's gonna have to

45:50

be the guy and everything. But you've been in the league

45:52

now a bunch of years. I just wonder

45:54

how athletes operate in the off

45:56

season, everybody's different. Do you

45:59

go okay, this year I I want to do this or

46:01

I need to change this up or I actually need to

46:03

keep it the same. Like how do you approach this time

46:05

doing the work before the work? Uh,

46:07

yeah. So I think the all season is

46:09

probably the most important, um, you know, thing

46:11

that translates to the season. So for me,

46:13

I got to be strong. Uh,

46:16

I got to be quick and I need to be

46:18

flexible. So all those things

46:20

I'll work on usually Mondays and Tuesdays

46:22

are like a max effort, like 90%,

46:25

um, you know, lower body lifts, upper

46:27

body lifts. And then Wednesdays is

46:29

like conditioning. I do conditioning on, um,

46:32

um, the other days as well, but different

46:34

solid and Thursdays and Fridays are more like

46:36

speed, uh, focused. So lighter

46:38

weights, uh, moving it fast. And so

46:41

do that. I do

46:43

a lot of arm field drills, um, a

46:45

lot of barefoot stuff. So yeah, for me,

46:47

it's, uh, you know, constantly assessing if I'm

46:49

watching my film is, you know, my struggle

46:52

with power, um, you know, do I need

46:54

to improve this and prove that? So I

46:56

just kind of pick apart, uh, kind of

46:59

how I'm feeling from the previous season. But

47:01

it's worked out well. I know one thing for me that

47:04

you got to be strong to play and hold up

47:06

in the trenches. Um, you know,

47:08

and as you get older, um, you

47:10

know, you might lose a little bit, but you

47:12

can make up with, with timing and knowledge.

47:14

Uh, but for me though, I feel good. I

47:16

don't feel like I've lost a whole lot.

47:18

Um, you know, if any, if for me, it's,

47:21

it's really about short area quickness. So long as

47:23

you don't lose that, I mean, for me,

47:25

I have to be fast and

47:27

short box. So,

47:30

uh, that helps. Yeah. I think that's

47:32

always been one of the most impressive things about you is

47:34

even going back to the draft, you're like, okay, this guy

47:36

is a freak. And you know, it's

47:38

one thing to be a great athlete growing up. It's

47:40

another thing to be somebody that stands out physically and

47:43

athletically on a football field with a

47:45

thousand plus other guys. Uh, when

47:47

you're trying to maintain that, but

47:49

you just said, maybe I can make up for it

47:51

with something else, but as people

47:53

get older, you can still get stronger, but

47:56

you worry about that quickness. Like how

47:58

are you able to maintain? as

48:00

close as you possibly can to a guy that's, you

48:02

know, a younger player in the league? I

48:05

believe you got to train it. I think your body adapts.

48:08

And as you get older, you become smarter.

48:10

But a lot of it is your body's going to adapt

48:12

to the stress that you put on it. So for me,

48:14

it's about, you know, plyometrics, you

48:17

know, is a big part of what I do. So kind

48:20

of being elastic, you know, there's times to

48:22

be rigid and have to really engulf a

48:24

person. And there's times we have to be

48:27

fluid. So for me, you know, I

48:29

train, you know, year round. And for

48:31

me, it's like, you know, competing with

48:33

my numbers, you know,

48:35

not really anybody else. I train really

48:38

alone. And so

48:40

for me, I have numbers that I've,

48:42

you know, previously said the years

48:44

before. And so I'm constantly competing

48:46

with that. And then, yeah, for me,

48:49

I've been, you know, ever since I've had ankle surgery

48:51

on my left ankle, for

48:54

me doing a lot of barefoot stuff and

48:56

really training that, I think what you'll

48:58

find is whenever you do some barefoot, you really

49:00

run on your forefoot instead

49:02

of a heel strike. And so I think

49:05

a lot of damage done is from like

49:07

inefficiencies, you know, we wear footwear and your

49:09

heel striking instead of running on your forefoot

49:12

absorbing the force correctly. It's

49:14

getting translated in a

49:16

bad way when you're heel striking. So when I

49:18

do barefoot stuff, it's all forefoot. And after you

49:20

get done doing it after a few days, your

49:23

legs feel, you know, your calves,

49:25

your quads, everything is, you

49:28

can tell that it's working differently. If

49:30

you go back to last year, coming off of

49:33

just an awesome Super Bowl, which I know

49:35

is tough, but it's

49:37

looking at the rest of the NSC and

49:39

thinking like who can compete with this talent

49:41

on this Eagles roster and Hertz clearly being

49:43

like the number one guy in the NSC

49:45

at the position. You start 10-1. I know

49:47

you've probably had to talk about this a

49:49

million times. Did you even with that great

49:51

record start, did it feel different? Did

49:54

it feel like, I know what our record is,

49:56

but this just doesn't feel the same as last

49:58

year. Yeah. Really,

54:00

I mean, we were obviously very serious players

54:02

together, but when

54:04

we weren't playing, you know,

54:07

we kept it real light, a lot of

54:09

laughter and just a lot of fun. You

54:11

know, I think what I appreciated about Kelsoimos

54:13

was how passionate he was about

54:15

it, the game of football, how

54:17

much it meant to him. You know, I was seeing

54:20

blow a gasket if he didn't tell the game plan

54:22

was right on Wednesday. So you know,

54:24

when you see guys that care about the game that

54:26

much and you know that they care about performing

54:29

well and being a good

54:31

teammate, I think that, you know,

54:33

speaks volumes about a person. And so yeah,

54:35

for me, man, it's really about laughing. I

54:37

mean, usually when I'm around him, we're having

54:40

a good time. Yeah, I mean,

54:42

everybody raves about him. Anybody that I know that

54:44

spent time with him or played with him just

54:46

absolutely loves the guy. You

54:48

said though, like him not liking maybe where you

54:50

are on a Wednesday and knowing

54:52

because of his role, he has to

54:54

kind of let everybody know. Is that

54:57

something because you read about some of the previous

54:59

is like, Oh, the means the lanes going to have to

55:01

start doing it. If it's not the way you want to

55:03

do it, or it's not in your personality, then it's

55:05

actually it doesn't work the way it would work for

55:07

somebody else. Do you think about that in your responsibility?

55:10

Yeah, I think you have to be yourself. Nothing

55:12

to be forced. People are going to see

55:14

through that. But for me, I've always

55:16

been the vocal guy in my meeting room, you know,

55:19

in the building when we have meetings

55:22

or, you know, there's lots of times where

55:24

I break guys down in the tunnel. But

55:27

for me, that's more game day, you know,

55:29

part of the show. But

55:31

for me, I've always been vocal. I've always

55:33

been, you know,

55:35

tight with my teammates. A lot of

55:38

it is keep it smiles in

55:40

people's faces, train hard, you know,

55:42

all the time, you

55:44

know, take it serious. But you know, also enjoy

55:47

the life that you're living. And

55:49

for me, yeah, I like

55:51

to I think doing the work and

55:53

being in early, that type of stuff

55:56

can speak a lot more than than

55:58

what words can. So actually. I

56:01

think, you know, all known is just how

56:03

you have a routine and stick to it.

56:07

Your quarterback Jalen is just really good at

56:09

kind of like presenting him say

56:12

he feels like he's been in the league forever just

56:14

the way he carries himself. And he's so good at

56:16

it, Lane, that if I didn't know better, I'd be

56:19

like, man, is this just guy so good

56:21

at knowing exactly how he's supposed to sound. But

56:24

I just remember with him at

56:26

Bama and losing the job to the way he

56:28

handled that knowing it's a massive disappointment, but he's

56:30

got a microphone in his face right after a

56:32

game. I was

56:34

like, this guy's just different. He's just different in how

56:36

he's able to kind of control his emotions and all

56:38

that kind of stuff. What do you see for

56:41

a dude that, you know, is basically the face of

56:43

the franchise in the city like Philadelphia?

56:46

Yeah, I think he's, you know, mostly mature.

56:48

You know, he grew up around football. His

56:50

dad was a coach. So he's

56:52

been around the game for, you know,

56:54

a long time. And so he's seen, you

56:57

know, what's good leadership,

56:59

what's not, you know, what

57:01

words need to be said, what

57:04

actions need to be taken. You

57:06

know, he faces criticism because obviously plays

57:08

in Philly, but just the quarterback position

57:10

in general was the most polarizing position

57:13

in sports. So, but

57:15

I think how he works, how

57:18

he battles, you know, he's gained a lot of

57:20

respect from his teammates and around the league. And

57:23

yeah, I think it really started from

57:25

that spot there with the national championship

57:28

game. There's, you know, lots of guys you can obviously

57:30

imagine they would have taken a different route

57:32

if they got in the microphone. So

57:36

I think it showed emotional intelligence, maturity

57:38

at early age, and sometimes

57:40

his quietness and his statements, you know,

57:42

might be too little for people and

57:44

they might take it as a

57:46

thing of arrogance. But when

57:48

you really get to know who Jaylen is and what

57:51

kind of person he is, he really cares

57:53

a lot about his teammates, the

57:55

game, and, you know, and I think

57:57

he has taken steps to really assault.

58:01

you know, be more open to some

58:03

of his guys. You know, I think that's

58:05

gone a long way, but, you know, he

58:07

hears criticism, and for me, but I've noticed

58:10

through it all, he doesn't, he

58:12

doesn't waver. There's never a time where I've seen him

58:14

rattled or, you know, really

58:16

anything. So very stoic and, you

58:19

know, how he approaches everything. And for me, you

58:21

know, that's how you got to be to make it

58:23

in this league. You have to bend when

58:25

you have to and be

58:27

strong when you have to. How hurt was

58:29

he last year? Oh, I

58:33

mean, he never, nothing was

58:35

ever sad in a

58:37

meeting or anything. I think

58:40

he took a shot, the

58:42

helmet to the thigh. I forgot what game it

58:44

was earlier in the year, and I think he had

58:46

a deep bone bruise. And so anybody that's

58:48

had that, it's

58:51

difficult to do a lot of stuff with it,

58:54

for his mobility. And so,

58:56

yeah, I think that may have hindered him early. Through

58:59

mid-season. Now, speaking of playing

59:01

her, I remember there was

59:03

one game, I think

59:05

we didn't know if you would be active the entire

59:07

week. It was a groin injury, right? Yeah,

59:11

I tore it in Dallas. I

59:13

tore both of them. So, all right.

59:16

I mean, it's just horrifying even to think about, but

59:18

then to play offensive tackle. I

59:22

noticed it wasn't so much the

59:24

starting as it was the stopping, right?

59:27

Yeah. Like, how do you

59:29

play with both of your

59:31

groins torn? Well, I had

59:33

the surgery, and the initial weeks

59:36

after were obviously painful, but

59:38

once, or what I'm

59:41

saying after the tear, not the surgery, that

59:43

I really didn't hurt as bad as what

59:45

you think. I think muscles started compensating,

59:47

and maybe those muscles were strong

59:49

in the first place. Obviously, my groins are weak. They

59:52

tore, so I had some compensation going on.

59:55

I think the hardest hit for me was

59:58

the first one against New York because... That

1:00:00

was the first time I had to be tested

1:00:03

really for my cable rush. You know, obviously I

1:00:05

was practicing, but to take a bull

1:00:07

rush with pads on and to feel

1:00:09

that so that first initial plays was like,

1:00:11

Oh, okay. That's my testing ground. And so

1:00:13

yeah, I can feel it. But the

1:00:16

New York game was the toughest game for me. And then,

1:00:18

uh, 49ers didn't feel as bad

1:00:21

Superbowl didn't feel bad. Uh, there was one

1:00:24

play towards the end. I don't

1:00:26

know if it was the extra point. We went for

1:00:28

two. Uh, but I

1:00:30

went left and I just felt

1:00:32

obviously whatever scar tissues started healing

1:00:34

up, just rip. And I was,

1:00:36

I was going fuck man. If we go into overtime, it's there

1:00:40

might be somebody going in and the Superbowl was like, Hey,

1:00:43

uh, but the, oh, the New

1:00:45

York game. And then the Superbowl is

1:00:47

only times that I felt anything in

1:00:49

the Superbowl felt good. The whole game except for the

1:00:51

end of that end of it,

1:00:53

the two point version, uh, the surgery,

1:00:55

yeah, it was painful. Uh, basically it's,

1:00:57

they described as like, you're getting a

1:00:59

C-section. So, um, a

1:01:02

lot of respect for all the mothers out there had to

1:01:04

go to that. Uh, but

1:01:06

yeah, I mean, I wasn't as in as

1:01:08

excruciating pain from, um, you

1:01:11

know, really the New York giants game on this, like my

1:01:14

muscles compensated, sounds worse than it is

1:01:16

from a filling aspect. I didn't feel

1:01:18

it, uh, too much. So,

1:01:22

um, crazy to hear the

1:01:24

surgery obviously was difficult, but after the

1:01:26

initial tear, it's like whatever was compensating,

1:01:28

I wasn't in too much pain. Were

1:01:31

you worried about re-aggravating in a WrestleMania?

1:01:34

Uh, no. Uh, you know,

1:01:36

I think obviously I didn't want to

1:01:38

be as, I didn't want to be too physical

1:01:40

out there and, and, and do something stupid, you

1:01:43

know, I would love to, but yeah.

1:01:45

Let me just interrupt like, because

1:01:47

only because yeah, right. Like I know you're not going to get

1:01:50

hurt at it, but when that ask

1:01:52

comes in, how does that happen? Uh,

1:01:56

yeah, it was, uh, you know,

1:01:58

something that we obviously talked about for. for

1:02:00

a couple of years, but I

1:02:03

got the opportunity, Kel's got the opportunity, and then

1:02:06

Kel said the idea to

1:02:08

go to Monster Factory and try to film

1:02:10

like our week leading up to the

1:02:12

wrestling match. So we actually went to

1:02:14

Monster Factory, you know,

1:02:17

learned the intros, you know, we had to

1:02:19

do our own intros, our own characters, had

1:02:21

to do the ropes. And I think

1:02:24

the first thing that popped

1:02:26

out to me was that those ropes are

1:02:28

still cable. It's not like Spongy Springs that

1:02:30

guys are springing off of those things mess

1:02:32

up your back. So I was

1:02:34

like, man, these guys doing all these years and

1:02:38

having to feel this. So much

1:02:40

respect to them. And really, yeah, I

1:02:42

mean, going into it, didn't know what

1:02:44

to expect, not a whole lot

1:02:46

said, but got

1:02:48

an obviously a chance to wrestle Rey Mysterio

1:02:51

and Dom Mysterio. So yeah,

1:02:53

it was cool. It's one of those things that,

1:02:56

you know, always watched as a kid and always

1:02:59

had admiration for. So yeah,

1:03:01

man, it's a big business

1:03:05

and yeah, they got to be on it all the time.

1:03:07

So it was amazing. I know

1:03:09

that you're starting up the mastermind summit.

1:03:11

That's in mid July in Frisco, Texas,

1:03:14

it's going to be 300 plus NFL

1:03:16

and college offensive lineman. And

1:03:20

you get a Hall of Fame panel and all this

1:03:22

stuff. Like what motivated you to try to do something

1:03:24

like this a little bit later in your career? Yeah,

1:03:27

I think Vaughn Miller was kind of the genesis of all the, you know,

1:03:31

getting guys together into one room

1:03:33

and discussing ball. But

1:03:35

for me, it was my partner now that

1:03:37

Duke Manny Weather reached out after

1:03:40

one of the top 100 interviews and said,

1:03:43

we should start something. Obviously he trained

1:03:45

guys in Frisco, has been

1:03:47

training NFL guys for years.

1:03:50

And our first year we had about 20 guys

1:03:52

in, you know, we didn't really

1:03:54

know what we were doing, but we knew the idea.

1:03:57

And each year we just progressed.

1:03:59

You know, we obviously got into

1:04:01

better topics, you know, the training,

1:04:03

the nutrition, how we

1:04:06

attack the run game, the past game. And then we started

1:04:09

adding the hall of fame panel and

1:04:11

guys that had just done it at, you know, the

1:04:13

best of the best for anybody that's ever played in

1:04:16

the league. And I think that attracted

1:04:18

obviously college guys to come in and you know,

1:04:20

you can, you can learn a lot

1:04:22

from these guys and gain a lot of wisdom in a

1:04:24

short amount of time, but just having those guys in the

1:04:26

room on the microphone and

1:04:30

dial in how these guys tacked the game.

1:04:32

And obviously you can hear the intensity and

1:04:34

passion in these guys'

1:04:36

voices and you can kind of understand, okay, I see

1:04:38

why this guy was such a good player when

1:04:41

you hear his mentality and really how

1:04:43

he approached the game of football. So,

1:04:46

but it's really just a tight brotherhood. I think the

1:04:48

O-line position is really unique because,

1:04:51

you know, we're all working together. We're all doing

1:04:53

the same job, not a whole lot

1:04:55

of notoriety. So it's not a huge

1:04:58

ego, you know, I think

1:05:00

group. So we have, when

1:05:02

you guys get in the room and select, you

1:05:04

know, we've been watching everybody else on film and

1:05:06

you get on this kind of like a long

1:05:08

lost brothers convention. You

1:05:10

know, obviously we live in the lifestyles. We watch your

1:05:13

tape guys around the league

1:05:15

week in a week out. And so I think

1:05:17

it's unique. So unique

1:05:19

experience. I think the timing is really good right

1:05:21

before training camp, just keep it fresh

1:05:23

in guys' minds. So it's really, really been

1:05:25

cool. A lot of fun. Okay. Multiple

1:05:27

choice for you here. This is an

1:05:30

easy one. Toughest to go up against

1:05:32

teammate or former teammate in drills. So

1:05:35

we'll go with active guy, Jordan Davis. We'll go

1:05:37

Hassan Redick or Chris Long. Jordan

1:05:40

Davis, man, tough guy to move.

1:05:43

Yeah, out of those three, if I'm

1:05:46

just drive blocking past blocking,

1:05:48

yeah, long as he's at D tackle, I'll

1:05:50

be fine. He's running from 10 yards out

1:05:52

of the four seven, whatever

1:05:54

you ran the combine, it'd be hard to stop. But

1:05:58

no, I was, I mean, I remember going to against

1:06:00

Chris earlier in my career, or about to go against

1:06:02

him, I think he was injured, but I've never watched

1:06:04

a tape of him just annihilating guys, and obviously, I

1:06:07

think his son made me a lot better, just

1:06:09

for this different, you know, every rusher has

1:06:11

a different style, so his lateral quickness

1:06:13

is unique, and

1:06:16

really, yeah, for me, I think it helped me a

1:06:18

lot the past two years. But

1:06:20

these guys, kind of different stages of my career, Chris,

1:06:22

I feel like got me a whole lot better. Chris

1:06:24

and BJ, it was suit primarily, who

1:06:26

went against me in practice, and

1:06:29

so, yeah, I mean, Chris had

1:06:31

a lot of strength, man. These

1:06:33

lower half is obviously, you

1:06:36

can see the Howie Long genetics. Yeah,

1:06:39

this is a guy that can run around you and then run

1:06:41

through you. And so, and

1:06:43

Annie played at a very high pace, so,

1:06:47

but Jordan Davis, if I had to dry block somebody, it'd

1:06:49

be very tough. So, because

1:06:52

you have so many Georgia guys, and this may

1:06:54

sound like a stupid question, but I promise I'll land the plane

1:06:57

here a little bit. But there's so many

1:06:59

football players on a roster. You're all

1:07:01

from different parts of the country. You all

1:07:03

have different backgrounds, right? So then when you

1:07:05

look at the Georgia guys, you're

1:07:07

like, well, do all the Georgia guys hang around?

1:07:10

And then as much as I, like

1:07:13

Chris was one of my favorite guys, but sometimes

1:07:15

I think he wishes he was from like Mississippi

1:07:18

and not Virginia. And then I'll hear

1:07:20

you talk lane, and all I can think about is

1:07:22

like, granted, I wasn't gonna be 300 pounds, and

1:07:24

as fast as you, I'm like, what would the

1:07:27

Texas version of me be? And there's also another

1:07:29

thing that I've noticed, I've gotten older, is that

1:07:31

no one from the South really ever thinks, I

1:07:33

wonder what I'd be like if I were from

1:07:35

Connecticut or Massachusetts, but Northern guys are really enamored

1:07:38

with, maybe it's too much Yellowstone, I don't know

1:07:40

what's going on. Like, what would

1:07:42

I be like if I grew up in Texas,

1:07:44

or would I just be like a

1:07:47

shithead frat kid in the SEC, but

1:07:49

his family came from like Evan Roode money. Whenever

1:07:52

I think about the clicks on a team,

1:07:55

is it tough geographically to break in at

1:07:57

the beginning? Oh, I mean,

1:07:59

I think that. Initially, just

1:08:02

coming in league, people were kind of in

1:08:05

shell shock, obviously, that they're there in the

1:08:07

first place. But for us, I think it

1:08:09

takes time. But really what I see, like

1:08:11

far as people hanging out, it's more position

1:08:14

groups, not from a part of

1:08:16

the region or from, it's more position groups.

1:08:18

So usually, D-LIMET and defense are eating together,

1:08:20

O-LIMET or even with the tight

1:08:22

ends and quarterbacks. But

1:08:25

Chris was one of those guys that he would go

1:08:27

to different, seemed like every male, he would

1:08:29

go to a different, obviously,

1:08:32

group. That's what made him so fun. But

1:08:35

yeah, that's what I noticed, I think just in

1:08:37

general, football, most of the time, you're spending all

1:08:39

your time with your position group anyway. You're let

1:08:42

out of the meetings the same time. Sometimes the

1:08:44

offense, they stay there next to 30 minutes. So

1:08:46

that's kind of the reason too, just because you're

1:08:49

on the same time schedule. Yeah, I

1:08:51

mean, that's the right answer. But it is a

1:08:53

great point about Chris. Very rarely have I ever

1:08:55

seen a guy kind of jump

1:08:58

from one group to the next

1:09:00

and everybody be excited. Yeah,

1:09:02

he was, yeah, just what you

1:09:04

said, he loves the, I

1:09:07

think he loves the idea of, obviously,

1:09:09

lives in Montana, but he loves kind

1:09:12

of the, I think, mystique of the,

1:09:14

obviously, the South isn't as populated or

1:09:16

at least the Western part of the

1:09:18

United States. It's like

1:09:20

20% of the population besides the coast where it

1:09:22

has the most. I

1:09:25

think it's a part of the world where not a

1:09:27

whole lot is going on. Yeah, you do have your

1:09:30

people with status and money,

1:09:32

but those are few and far between.

1:09:34

So you just see ordinary people.

1:09:37

They don't care about who you are or what

1:09:40

you have. It's more of a, I guess, how

1:09:42

you treat a mutual respect thing. But

1:09:45

yes, it's pretty slow paced out here

1:09:47

in Oklahoma, Texas, Montana, where

1:09:49

Chris is at. What

1:09:51

I like about it is just you

1:09:54

have more, I don't feel like you're

1:09:56

obviously in as a confined space to

1:09:58

some cities. So

1:10:01

it's pretty free range a lot more land and

1:10:03

for me, I love spending time outside You

1:10:07

know fishing whatever but being outside is

1:10:09

a must Lane really

1:10:11

appreciate the time man and congrats and

1:10:13

and have fun later this month Yeah,

1:10:16

I'm excited for everybody back to work. But

1:10:19

yeah, I know we're ready and Hopefully

1:10:21

we go down in Brazil without a Without

1:10:24

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1:10:28

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I was surprised you I didn't think

1:12:00

you were watching the game. And I'm

1:12:02

proud of you. I'm sad because it was a bummer, but

1:12:05

it did seem like a lot of, and

1:12:07

I don't mean this in a bad way, a lot

1:12:09

of the casuals were really into that game, and

1:12:12

it sucks because we obviously sucked as a nation, and

1:12:14

the refereeing was a disaster, the camera

1:12:16

angle was a disaster. So if that was your first dip

1:12:19

into like, hey, let me try soccer out, probably wasn't great.

1:12:22

Well, I don't think anybody's gonna wanna hear from

1:12:24

me, because I'm a Uruguay fan, but Copa games

1:12:26

are physical, right? You

1:12:28

could say a little borderline dirty. Yeah, I would

1:12:30

agree, they're tough. See,

1:12:34

Caitlin Clark did again. Nice.

1:12:37

She's getting smashed across the head. Somebody's like, well, wherever

1:12:39

these casuals don't realize how physical the

1:12:41

W.M.A. is. This happens every night. You'd be like,

1:12:43

that seems aggressive. That seems to be like a

1:12:45

little targeted, I don't know. I

1:12:50

was surprised that people were talking enough as if they

1:12:52

played well though. That seemed to be what was said

1:12:55

on Twitter. Again, I don't know the game

1:12:57

really well. I saw maybe two real scoring

1:12:59

chances before garbage time when they needed two

1:13:01

goals to get through. It

1:13:07

seems like guys don't control the ball as

1:13:09

well as other guys on the American side.

1:13:12

Passes where guys are on completely

1:13:14

different pages. Just not

1:13:16

a lot of moments where it felt like

1:13:18

they were threatening even if they had more

1:13:21

possession or were positioned.

1:13:24

It just, I don't know, was it 85

1:13:26

minutes when it got kind of

1:13:29

wild there at the end because it was so

1:13:31

desperate and there was more total chances. But it

1:13:33

felt like maybe two real chances to the first

1:13:36

85 minutes of it. And just

1:13:38

little stuff where I felt like they

1:13:40

just didn't control possession as

1:13:42

well as you would

1:13:44

expect from a team. Do

1:13:48

people have real expectations that this team could do something in

1:13:50

the World Cup? Well, that's

1:13:52

the problem. I'll just say to your

1:13:54

point, they had one shot in the first half. They

1:13:56

came out and they were flying around and they

1:13:58

were physical and they were. were giving Uruguay problems,

1:14:00

but at the end of the day, there

1:14:03

was no end product, there was no service to any of our

1:14:06

strikers, guys were on an island. I mean, the biggest issue, if

1:14:08

you really only get deep into it is, I

1:14:10

just don't think we have a lot of progressive passers in the team.

1:14:12

We've got a lot of guys

1:14:14

that play for decent clubs and play certain roles,

1:14:16

but we really miss a guy who can kind

1:14:18

of unlock a defense. We miss, you

1:14:20

know, Kevin De Bruyne is, we miss, I mean,

1:14:22

that's obviously insane as a world-class player, but they

1:14:25

miss a guy like that who can kind

1:14:28

of sit in the middle and ping passes and really

1:14:30

threaten defenses. But to your point, the

1:14:33

expectations versus the reality are,

1:14:35

I think most people like

1:14:37

me who follow the team closely,

1:14:40

enjoy it and have big aspirations

1:14:42

for the team are still realistic in that, like we're

1:14:44

not winning the World Cup in 2026. If

1:14:47

this team was to make the semi-finals,

1:14:50

that would be the greatest achievement in the history of

1:14:52

soccer on the men's side ever. So

1:14:55

I think like when people look at it and they're like,

1:14:57

hey, why aren't we, you know, we have this massive country, we're good

1:14:59

at everything else, like why aren't we good at soccer? The

1:15:02

problem, I mean, there's a lot of problems. I think some

1:15:04

of it is like the youth set up, I think. Some

1:15:06

of it is just like, we're just not, we

1:15:09

just don't have like the soccer DNA of a club.

1:15:11

You look at Uruguay, like though it's a tiny country,

1:15:13

I think they have like 3 million people, but like

1:15:16

it's just in their blood. South American teams, you know,

1:15:18

Argentina, Brazil, like they just, there's

1:15:20

something that they have, there's this type of player that

1:15:22

they have that we just don't have or know how

1:15:24

to produce. So the ceiling, like that's why the last

1:15:26

World Cup, when they made out of the group stage,

1:15:29

they should have, and then they lost to the Netherlands,

1:15:31

the Netherlands are a better team than we are. So

1:15:33

that's like basically par for the course, they did their

1:15:35

job. It wasn't underachieving, it wasn't overachieving. And

1:15:37

I think the thing for this COPA, that

1:15:40

I think even if you look and see the forest

1:15:42

or the trees, yes, the results suck and we should

1:15:44

have easily made it out of the group. But finally,

1:15:46

we have something to be like, this was unacceptable and

1:15:48

now changes need to happen because this can't happen. You

1:15:50

should never not make it out of the group and

1:15:53

within a group of Panama and Bolivia, two teams that

1:15:55

you are infinitely better than. So I think the expectations

1:15:57

are a problem. We're not winning World Cups anytime soon,

1:15:59

but we are. still like a good top 20 team

1:16:02

in the world. And this is not obviously the way

1:16:04

that we want to go out of a tournament that

1:16:06

we're hosting, by the way. Hosting?

1:16:08

Yeah, but it was just good to see everybody like

1:16:10

because I just think a soccer fans is every time

1:16:12

I just peer into it's like, Oh, this guy has

1:16:15

to be fired now to where I think if you

1:16:17

guys had a football team, like if you treated American

1:16:19

football, the way you treat soccer coaches, you'd want every

1:16:21

guy fired on Monday. Like I cannot

1:16:24

believe how often American soccer fans are

1:16:26

just like, fire them. Now

1:16:28

it's not American soccer, but that's that's like in the

1:16:30

Premier League. I mean, the guy who won the title

1:16:32

with Leicester City, which was the most improbable championship maybe

1:16:35

in the history of sports literally got fired the next

1:16:37

season. Jose Mourinho has been

1:16:39

fired at Chelsea like multiple times like after winning a

1:16:41

title like it just that's the way the sport kind

1:16:43

of is sometimes I don't know if it's like you

1:16:45

lose the locker room faster in soccer than you do

1:16:47

in other sports. But it just is the

1:16:50

way the sport is but for Greg Berhalter, who's the

1:16:52

manager of the US men's national team. He

1:16:56

he's just that we're clearly regressive.

1:16:58

He's clearly there's something that he's not doing the players and

1:17:00

the players all like him, which I'm tired of hearing. I

1:17:02

don't care if the players like you or not. Like,

1:17:05

are you getting results or not? And he's not.

1:17:07

And, you know, the World Cup was fine.

1:17:09

But I don't think anyone was like,

1:17:11

hey, we're really definitely heading in the right direction. And

1:17:13

again, hosting the World Cup in 2026, where

1:17:16

it's going to be a big deal. If you're

1:17:18

not, not only you're not going forward,

1:17:20

but if you're going to lose and not make it out

1:17:22

of the group in a Copa group, that's very easy. He

1:17:24

has to go. I don't even think that's controversial. Somebody

1:17:28

checking in a little heat for you

1:17:31

both your boy here you all whine about the

1:17:33

humble brag. But Ryan has said several times that

1:17:36

he's quote too honest. Is that a complete lack

1:17:38

of awareness or just monumental arrogance? Seems

1:17:41

to be a little pointed. Yeah, I

1:17:44

said, I've said it.

1:17:46

I never really thought of it as being arrogant. I don't

1:17:48

say it as like, maybe

1:17:50

it can come off as like,

1:17:52

I'm complimenting myself. I guess I just look at it as

1:17:55

like in the approach and how I try to deal

1:17:57

with other people. Yeah, I think some

1:17:59

people think that You're like cold and

1:18:01

mean and scary because I think you're a little

1:18:03

bit Honest and you're

1:18:06

not afraid to say like when something sucks, which

1:18:08

I actually don't mind some

1:18:10

people can't really don't really like that

1:18:12

but Because I know there's so

1:18:15

many people that when they first meet you their perception of

1:18:17

you is like hey He's just like mean scary dude, and

1:18:19

then like actually Ryan's like kind of kind he gave me

1:18:21

a gift like this is incredible I didn't expect that from

1:18:23

you multiple people have said that so kind

1:18:26

Ryan Sneaky kind guy,

1:18:28

you know friend sneaky kid

1:18:30

guy Yeah, sneaky kid guy

1:18:32

big time on the kids actually brought gifts to

1:18:34

kids recently Don't even

1:18:36

know random ones. Yeah, just yeah out in the

1:18:38

street like Santa Claus in July You

1:18:41

want a sip of this soda that doesn't go over as well Yeah,

1:18:47

I don't I that guy must not like us yes

1:18:50

tough tough crowd. Yep doesn't

1:18:52

work out Let's

1:18:55

See here we had a few. Oh Okay,

1:18:58

here we go big-name athlete setting 36 years

1:19:01

old data three no impressive gym stats But I

1:19:03

can hang with 21 year old camp counselors in

1:19:05

a game of ultimate frisbee. That's

1:19:08

awesome Yeah, they run some routes in that

1:19:10

sport and they lay out at

1:19:12

the higher levels. They'll lay out I

1:19:14

work full-time at a summer camp and a big-name

1:19:16

pro athlete is sending his child to our camp

1:19:18

Which we're all really excited about the consensus approach

1:19:20

has been to make it not a thing As

1:19:23

much as possible and treat his kid along with interactions

1:19:26

with the athlete himself and his family as normal as

1:19:28

possible 90% of me believes

1:19:30

this is the level-headed approach and totally the right

1:19:32

move, but I've also thought is it weird as

1:19:34

hell for him So far

1:19:36

he's been here for check-in pickup, which is awesome

1:19:38

No one has made any acknowledgement of who he is

1:19:40

as far as I know and obviously most if not

1:19:43

all of us do know Who he is does this

1:19:45

kind of thing make an athlete feel weird or is

1:19:47

it just refreshing should we cut the shit? Let him

1:19:49

know how pumped we are that his kid is at

1:19:51

our camp And the guy does

1:19:53

share the athletes with me, but I'm not gonna say

1:19:55

who it is It's

1:19:58

it's really funny Think

1:20:00

real big athlete or just like a casual? Hey, it's a big

1:20:02

deal. No, he's a big deal. I mean, it's not

1:20:05

LeBron, because his kid's at

1:20:07

his work camp. But

1:20:11

this is a really well-known

1:20:13

professional athlete currently

1:20:16

playing right now. I

1:20:22

think the list is longer of athletes that would love to

1:20:24

be just left alone. Because for the most part,

1:20:26

especially somebody like this, wherever he's

1:20:29

playing, it's the person who doesn't

1:20:31

think they're necessarily interrupting, but they're

1:20:33

still kind of interrupting. And

1:20:35

for him to have a place that's

1:20:39

revolving around his son, or

1:20:41

he said kid, so I assume son, that's

1:20:44

still, I don't think we'll give it away. I think there's plenty

1:20:46

of pro athletes that have both sons and daughters. And

1:20:49

he's there with his wife, and

1:20:51

nobody's pulling him aside to like talk about

1:20:53

some game or this, or ask a question, or

1:20:56

hey, what do you think, or whatever. It's happening

1:20:58

to him all the time. So if you can

1:21:00

actually provide this oasis of him feeling normal, I'm

1:21:03

sure he would love it. Now, if you think it's

1:21:05

a little weird that no one acknowledges it the whole

1:21:07

time, well certainly, yeah, that would probably be weird, but

1:21:09

it wouldn't be wrong. I don't think it would bother

1:21:12

him. Like the only time, look,

1:21:15

there's a couple guys that I've hung out with, but like I've told

1:21:17

that Wade Boggs story that Bill hated, where

1:21:21

it was really funny

1:21:23

being with him, and I think he was more

1:21:26

annoyed that nobody was paying

1:21:28

attention to him. And

1:21:31

once people started realizing that Wade Boggs was

1:21:33

on the scene, crowd gathered, and

1:21:35

he was into it, and he was awesome.

1:21:37

He was really just good at whatever that

1:21:39

is. But he didn't wanna be left alone.

1:21:42

He wanted to interact with people. And

1:21:44

I think there's some people that really like it, but

1:21:46

that's also at a bar one night. Yeah,

1:21:48

setting matters. This is

1:21:50

a kid's camp. So if you feel

1:21:53

like it'll be weird to never say anything, maybe

1:21:55

at the end of the summer session, you

1:21:58

or whoever the hell you are, the people would

1:22:00

be because somebody's going to say something at some point. Okay.

1:22:02

You're not going to make it through the entire summer, every

1:22:04

single pickup without somebody finally being like, Hey, you know,

1:22:07

can I get a picture or an autograph or

1:22:09

ask a stupid question about the schedule or whatever?

1:22:12

Um, if you personally,

1:22:14

the email or wants to say at the end of it, like,

1:22:16

you know, really excited

1:22:18

and thanks for having

1:22:20

your kid here and everybody's rooting for you

1:22:22

or whatever, like that's a really nice

1:22:24

thing to say to somebody. So it's not like he's going to

1:22:26

be annoyed. And at that

1:22:29

point, if there's that acknowledgement that wasn't happening,

1:22:31

which is weird because look, somebody is going

1:22:33

to say something to them. But

1:22:35

if you personally, the person emailing into the

1:22:37

whole thing wants

1:22:39

to at some point do

1:22:41

something, maybe just wait until the entire summer session is

1:22:44

up. And last,

1:22:46

you know, one of the last times he would seem at pickup or whatever,

1:22:48

just give him, give him a little bit

1:22:50

of acknowledgement and give him a compliment. And

1:22:53

there you go. And then that was, that

1:22:55

was your moment. Because that's the thing about the

1:22:57

people on the other side that have

1:22:59

the fame, have the recognition is they have to

1:23:01

understand that like that

1:23:03

little interaction is a

1:23:05

big, big deal to the people that care about

1:23:07

it. It's a huge deal. Like think about

1:23:09

all the interactions that you've had in your life,

1:23:12

where maybe it's the two or

1:23:14

three times you ever met somebody famous or whatever. It's

1:23:17

also really hard for the person who's famous to

1:23:19

nail every fucking one of us. But it's,

1:23:23

it's a moment for the person

1:23:25

on the other side of it, that they're

1:23:27

going to think about, they're going to share with their friends, going to,

1:23:29

you know, whatever, like I used to hear about how like my mom

1:23:32

dance with Stan Musial at

1:23:35

some fucking country club thing. I

1:23:38

mean, the number of people that brought that story up

1:23:41

when I was a kid, again, my mother's not the

1:23:43

same age as Stan Musial. I

1:23:46

think that's the story. I don't know. I've heard so

1:23:48

many different versions of it over the years, but that's

1:23:51

the whole point. It's like this simple little thing. There

1:23:53

was some function or whatever Stan

1:23:55

Musial was there and this

1:23:57

entire side of my family, Stan Musial.

1:24:00

Stan Musial Sander just over and over

1:24:02

and over again. And it was like

1:24:04

a lifelong thing of bringing back this

1:24:06

memory. It was also in the middle

1:24:08

of nowhere, Vermont. So that

1:24:10

wasn't like a hotbed for people rolling

1:24:13

through, although Donald Sutherland owned

1:24:15

property up there. So shout

1:24:17

out to the passing of

1:24:19

a legend. But yeah,

1:24:22

there's not much more Maybe he bussed for only every once

1:24:24

in a while too, right? He's one of the more famous

1:24:26

people in Vermont, you know? Yeah, he's more,

1:24:28

I think he's more Southern Vermont. But

1:24:32

not knocking it, just two

1:24:34

different worlds. Yeah. I would say

1:24:36

I don't want to

1:24:38

be like Debbie Downer here, but it probably

1:24:41

doesn't matter either way to this guy. It

1:24:43

sounds like I feel like to 95% of

1:24:45

athletes, if he

1:24:47

doesn't get recognized dropping his kid off at a

1:24:49

camp, he's probably not going to be bothered one

1:24:51

way or the other. I

1:24:53

think you've been mentioned like

1:24:55

the setting and the Wade Boggs story. Well,

1:24:57

yeah, like Wade Boggs was a guy who, I

1:25:00

mean, I've never met him, but I've, you know, heard he likes

1:25:02

to have a good time. He likes to have a drink and

1:25:04

he's, you know, drink and be merry kind of type guy, right?

1:25:07

I think he was great.

1:25:09

By the way, he was like, it

1:25:11

sounds weird for me to describe it

1:25:13

as he was way more into it.

1:25:15

Once everybody realized that he was there,

1:25:17

we were at a country bar in

1:25:19

Southerton, Connecticut. Okay, the cowboy ranch, right,

1:25:21

right next to that residence in and oh,

1:25:24

wait, walk from the parking lot. You're

1:25:26

talking about a Cadillac ranch? Cadillac

1:25:29

ranch. Yeah, Caddy Ranch. Wow, what a spot. Yeah, only been

1:25:32

there once and I grew up there. But no,

1:25:35

I'm not even this isn't all the way box thing.

1:25:37

Not an anti Wade Boggs thing. But I

1:25:40

think if you're talking about with your kid at a

1:25:42

camp, like, I don't know that this guy's like looking to

1:25:44

be like, hey, look at me, you know, some guys might,

1:25:46

but I would assume most people are

1:25:48

good people. And it's like, hey, it's not doesn't have to

1:25:50

always be about you, especially when you're dropping your kid off

1:25:53

at a camp. I will say, you should

1:25:55

have just said something at the start be like, hey, man, like

1:25:57

big fan of the team, like, decide to have your kid here.

1:25:59

And that's all you have to say, you could certainly do it

1:26:01

at the end of the thing too, like you suggested, but if

1:26:03

you had done it at the beginning, I don't think it would

1:26:05

have been a big deal at all. It's when you start asking

1:26:07

them for things, keeping them for more than like

1:26:09

two to three minutes at a time. You know,

1:26:11

can I get an autograph? You got tickets, like

1:26:14

that's where you start to cross a line. But

1:26:16

I feel like chatting them up. And

1:26:18

then maybe talk about the kid a little bit too, like how

1:26:20

what activities they did, how good of a kid they are. And

1:26:22

like, that's gonna make the guy that's gonna loosen loosen the guy

1:26:24

up and probably make him want to talk to you even more

1:26:26

if that's what you want to do. So I,

1:26:29

I think you're probably just all you and your

1:26:31

coworkers, I could see be like, what's the right angle into this guy?

1:26:33

It's like just talk to him for two seconds. It's to say hi

1:26:35

to say, Hey, big fan, man. Good to have you here. Yeah,

1:26:38

but it's hard to do it. And

1:26:40

not be weird. I

1:26:43

don't think it is in this case. I don't I really don't. That's

1:26:45

why I think Tommy Alter so popular with people

1:26:48

because he's so good at being around famous people,

1:26:50

and never acting like he's around a famous person. And

1:26:52

then he becomes friends with everybody. So you're working for

1:26:55

the Lakers now? Hey,

1:26:58

what? No, I don't. I don't

1:27:00

know. I'm just wondering. Like, I

1:27:03

don't know, Tommy at all. But you know, seems like he

1:27:05

does a lot of cool things. And that would be the next one, I

1:27:07

guess. Who knows? Who knows what

1:27:09

he's doing right now? Okay,

1:27:11

this is good. It's very specific. It's unique.

1:27:13

We haven't done one like this. Was

1:27:16

this an acceptable time to give another man

1:27:18

an unexpected compliment? 5'9", 200 pounds,

1:27:21

no gym stats, pick up comparison to a 2020 year's

1:27:24

Brad Wanamaker, not really someone you want on your team,

1:27:26

but I'm a nice guy that hit my free throws.

1:27:28

One of my favorite all time player comps of all

1:27:30

time. Like that shit. That this

1:27:32

guy nailed, he fucking nailed the essence. This

1:27:34

is the closest to a bullseye I think

1:27:37

I've ever heard from somebody. She's

1:27:39

like, where'd Wanamaker go to school? I forget.

1:27:41

Was it Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh, West, I

1:27:44

almost said West Virginia. Yeah, he

1:27:46

was done some teams and they were like, oh, cool.

1:27:48

And he had them. He's a little bit

1:27:52

more. He's just a little bit more. But look, if he was

1:27:54

a little bit more, you know, former

1:27:56

main red, nice. There you go. Yeah.

1:27:59

Huge numbers. All right, so

1:28:01

to get some background, I'm someone who

1:28:03

takes organizational tasks like packing a car,

1:28:05

decanting pantry items and spices into consistent

1:28:07

containers. And most important, this specific

1:28:09

email, using the grocery store conveyor belt space

1:28:12

effectively. I try to put

1:28:14

the heavier items first. By the way, that's kind of

1:28:16

just a wake up call to the world. Heavier items

1:28:19

first, because it's easier

1:28:21

to get into the bag and then whatever. I

1:28:23

think that could be- Yeah, it's solid base. Yeah,

1:28:25

but from my experience, you

1:28:28

could check out line, check out line.

1:28:31

They just kind of bundle there at the end and

1:28:33

then some other guy comes over and then it's kind

1:28:35

of just so, but this is, look, if we're

1:28:38

trying to shave milliseconds off

1:28:40

the pit stops here, you're

1:28:44

doing a good job, all right? So

1:28:46

puts the heavier items up first. I

1:28:49

try to make it all around easy on

1:28:51

the person checking and bagging my groceries. I

1:28:53

also try to maximize space so that people

1:28:55

behind me can get to the belt quicker

1:28:57

as well. This guy's

1:28:59

fucking, I like

1:29:01

this guy. Yeah, this really

1:29:03

goes into an overall philosophy of mine that people tend

1:29:05

to only think of themselves in these situations. If

1:29:08

we thought even a little bit about how we

1:29:10

impact others, everything will be more efficient. I also

1:29:12

believe this to be true when merging lanes and

1:29:14

traffic, but I digress. Yeah, that was like driving

1:29:16

from San Diego to LA with Danny Canel. I

1:29:19

was like, if everybody drove like this, Danny, we'd all be dead. We'd

1:29:22

all be dead. You

1:29:24

know, it was in care. Danny Canel. Yeah,

1:29:26

because I was like, well, I forget whose rental car it

1:29:28

was and he was like, well, I'm driving. And

1:29:30

I was like, I don't mind driving. I've done this drive because

1:29:33

I'm driving. And I was like, all right. And

1:29:35

then he's like, I'm gonna get us there and this amount of them. Like,

1:29:37

I was like, I don't really need to get there because I'm

1:29:39

checking into the hotel. I don't really have anything to do. So he's

1:29:41

like, nope. And then we went for a

1:29:44

ride and I was just like, you gotta be fucking kidding

1:29:46

me, dude. Like, what are you, 16? So

1:29:51

anyway, he was excited. Just

1:29:53

passing everywhere. Breakdown lanes, right, left, zig and zag in

1:29:55

it. I feel like he's a big pass on the

1:29:58

right guy. Yeah. serious

1:30:00

fucking Tokyo drift. Just

1:30:03

family, you know? Right. And

1:30:05

the rest of us in the car are just going, what

1:30:09

the fuck are you doing?

1:30:11

Anyway, I just had a flashback. Love

1:30:13

you Danny. Yesterday

1:30:15

the guy in front of me at the

1:30:17

grocery store checkout clearly espoused the same spatial

1:30:19

efficiency beliefs that I do. I

1:30:22

was impressed. And I'd say I even learned

1:30:24

a thing or two. Now I

1:30:26

do, this guy's on. This

1:30:29

is such a good email. It's a

1:30:31

great writer too. Man, I hope, can

1:30:33

he land this email to be one of the great

1:30:35

emails we've ever received? Maybe in mankind.

1:30:39

History of. I'd say I even learned

1:30:41

a thing or two. This is so funny. Now I do

1:30:43

this not for recognition, but because it's what I

1:30:46

believe to be the right way to approach being

1:30:48

part of a shared society. Tell you who wouldn't

1:30:50

take a fucking bottle of hot sauce at Chipotle?

1:30:53

It's this guy. However, I'd be lying. Yeah.

1:30:57

It starts buying in and about the people. He

1:30:59

might bring his own plastic ramekins and then just

1:31:01

divvy up a bottle in his spare time. Can

1:31:03

I use your sink? Yeah. However,

1:31:07

I'd be lying if there weren't times where

1:31:09

I would love for a stranger to say

1:31:11

they appreciated my approach to the grocery store

1:31:13

conveyor belt efficiency. Yeah, you're not

1:31:15

getting that praise. So here's the question.

1:31:18

Would it have been weird to compliment

1:31:20

this man on his organizational strategy? I

1:31:22

would have appreciated it. But

1:31:25

as you can tell from the email up to this point,

1:31:27

I'm kind of weird. He was

1:31:29

with his wife and I can only imagine

1:31:31

that if the compliment did go over well, he would

1:31:33

have had a moment in the car where she said,

1:31:35

where he said, quote, see, I'm

1:31:38

not alone. There's

1:31:40

also the possibility that he says, thanks guy.

1:31:43

And it's totally weirded out. So fellas,

1:31:45

what's your take weird, acceptable? What's the

1:31:47

general consensus on complimenting other dudes for

1:31:49

non-traditional skills? Thanks guys. Love the pot.

1:31:53

I think you do it. It's

1:31:55

your right. You have to share this. You care

1:31:57

about this so much. Now, what I say in

1:31:59

general. do this to other people? No, but

1:32:01

I think you specifically, you need

1:32:03

to let

1:32:06

people know this verbally when

1:32:08

you see it. I don't know how

1:32:11

it's going to be delivered. Your writing is impeccable. So

1:32:15

maybe there would have to be a little,

1:32:19

a little brisker way of doing it if you were

1:32:21

doing it in person. If you were just to say,

1:32:23

Hey man, juice up front,

1:32:26

legs to the side on the inside. So

1:32:29

no reaching over leafy greens on

1:32:31

top of the yogurt. It's not

1:32:33

going to dent those up. You're not going to tear your,

1:32:35

your basil before it needs

1:32:37

to be tear credible,

1:32:40

credible. It would be so funny. Now if

1:32:42

he doesn't get it, he doesn't get it, but I don't

1:32:44

even care about him as much as

1:32:46

I care about you rewarding yourself for

1:32:50

just your appreciation of it. So

1:32:52

I think you should have done it. And it would have been amazing if

1:32:54

it went that way and then he's in the car with his wife being

1:32:56

like, see, see who you're married to. You could

1:32:58

have, you could have married a pharmacist. But

1:33:01

here you are. Yeah. This guy,

1:33:05

this guy is, it's kind of like me

1:33:07

to be honest with you. I'm really, really

1:33:09

specific about things like, like,

1:33:12

you know, obviously the grocery store checkout

1:33:14

line. I'm really specific about how, how

1:33:16

you load the dishwasher for

1:33:18

maximum efficiency in space. Like if we're just

1:33:20

putting plates in the middle of the dishwasher,

1:33:23

like what are we doing? Like what are

1:33:25

we doing? What if I have to put a big pot in there?

1:33:27

Then all of a sudden there's a plate right in the middle of

1:33:29

the dishwasher. Now I got to move that thing around. There's little racks

1:33:31

for everything to go into. Like that's, so I guess

1:33:33

I also am weird, but I think that

1:33:35

it's, it's good to acknowledge that you're weird and have the

1:33:37

self-awareness to be like, yeah, I'm a little off. I

1:33:39

have a little OCD. It's okay, but that doesn't harm anybody.

1:33:42

So I actually am with this guy. I don't

1:33:44

know that I would have said anything to him, but I don't think it would

1:33:46

have been weird at all for you to be like, Hey man, like what you're

1:33:48

doing, give it up. Simple, something simple as

1:33:50

that. You know, hopefully it doesn't have to be like

1:33:52

you guys are exchanging phone numbers or anything. So

1:33:55

I, yeah, I think it'd be totally fine.

1:33:58

I don't see an issue with that at all. And I actually. that

1:34:00

you know guys that load the dishwasher

1:34:02

correctly you know put their shopping cart

1:34:04

back you know grocery store checkout line help

1:34:06

the person out put all the heavy stuff at the bottom

1:34:08

those people are good people in society maybe I'm biased because

1:34:10

I try to be one of those guys but I think

1:34:12

those you need those guys they're like glue guys for society

1:34:15

what if you were to watch it

1:34:19

exhale hands on the hips and

1:34:23

reach over small counterclockwise

1:34:25

circle between shoulder blades and go I

1:34:28

see what you're doing man you're an

1:34:30

artist we don't we

1:34:32

can't touch people that's it's 2024 we don't we

1:34:34

don't touch strangers come on even

1:34:36

in the checkout line acknowledging greatness

1:34:38

definitely especially in the checkout line

1:34:41

especially there's so no but a

1:34:43

nice a nice hey man keep you

1:34:45

know keep doing you good stuff just fine

1:34:47

so you're you think you think there's a chance

1:34:49

because this guy was so good in front of

1:34:51

him that he could just make that eye contact

1:34:54

and they would be no yes they would both know yes

1:34:57

I would man I would know if

1:34:59

somebody just somebody said that to me after I put all I don't

1:35:01

know all the if I put on

1:35:03

the orange the OJ at the bottom and all the

1:35:06

you know the bread to you yeah I don't

1:35:08

know I definitely wouldn't touch him I'll tell you that right I

1:35:10

was like that right now because

1:35:12

that could go a whole another way go

1:35:15

to the wife like can I hug this

1:35:17

guy that's one of the greatest displays of

1:35:19

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1:35:21

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1:35:33

it's not a long list it's not a

1:35:36

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1:35:38

with it Jonas Valens-Eunice no

1:35:41

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1:35:44

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1:35:46

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