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Hey. Y'all.

1:58

It's your good friend, Silverman. You know,

2:00

a friend of mine. Who

2:05

says he's liberal, but very much

2:07

borders on right winginess, very

2:11

very much adjacent to

2:13

right winginess. And I love

2:15

him. And he he texted me you know, he'll

2:17

text me here and there. And he listens

2:19

to the podcast so high. But

2:23

he texted me an article yesterday with

2:25

the headline, Aritha Frank Klyn

2:27

Song, natural woman, deemed offensive

2:29

to trans women. And he was, like,

2:32

then he wrote, like, sigh. And

2:36

I clicked on the article. First of all,

2:38

it was in the daily mail, so take that with

2:40

a gigantic grain of salt.

2:43

Then I looked at it and I read it and

2:45

there were no names mentioned, no quotes.

2:47

The whole thing was attributed to some

2:49

group in Norway called the trans

2:51

cultural mindfulness alliance. I

2:54

was like, what's that? So I looked

2:56

on Twitter, I looked

2:58

up trans cultural, mindful, nonmindful,

3:01

alliance or whatever. And guess

3:03

what? It's a parody account. And

3:08

they said on it, by the time I

3:10

looked it up, all this stuff had happened in

3:12

the article, of course, came out because he had sent

3:14

it to me. So it was had happened

3:17

already. And the first thing on the account

3:19

said that one

3:21

media outlet reached

3:23

out to them about

3:27

what they said about you make

3:29

me feel like a natural woman. Why?

3:32

Because why ruin a source you

3:34

can quote with

3:36

the truth? Why let the truth buddy those

3:38

things? Meaning it was picked up by the

3:40

Daily Mail. It was a tweet, jokingly,

3:44

a joke tweet, a parody tweet.

3:46

And they didn't have parody account

3:48

written on their account at that point, but

3:50

it was if you read any of

3:52

the tweets, you could see it was a parody account

3:54

that it was not real. It was certainly

3:56

not run by trans people, which it insists

3:59

that it is. You know, I don't know

4:01

that it's a cool parody

4:02

account, but it's a parody account.

4:05

And the fact that none of these media outlets

4:07

even reached out to them

4:09

for a quote or anything, they just took

4:11

it and took it as fact.

4:14

Why? To

4:16

stoke rage from the right, of course,

4:20

that's the real story. They

4:23

used a parody account to represent

4:25

the entire trans community. That's

4:27

not journalism. That's

4:29

beefing up a narrative that suits

4:32

them like for instance that the trans community

4:34

is like a wild unhinged Kabal

4:37

that wants everyone to be trans.

4:40

When the truth is, they

4:44

they just wanna live their lives

4:46

authentically without

4:48

hate or violence towards them.

4:52

That's it. And maybe be able

4:54

to pee in public bathrooms.

4:57

Jesus fucking Christ No

4:59

one's looking to outlaw. You

5:02

make me feel like a natural woman. This

5:04

is a dumb story designed

5:06

entirely to incite rage within

5:08

the right wing and to support

5:10

their misconceptions and help

5:12

justify their hate of and ignorance

5:14

around the trans community. That's

5:18

what that is. That's their bread and

5:20

butter Kast like just like,

5:22

you know, the story about the Missouri

5:24

State Senate putting

5:26

up a thing to pass where

5:29

the women senators can't

5:31

wear sleeveless shirts. That

5:35

That was that was

5:37

big news that spread far and

5:38

wide. Why to

5:41

incite rage on the left? This

5:43

is all of their bread and butter.

5:46

I mean, let's sure. When I first

5:48

saw that headline, I I mean, like, listen,

5:50

on one hand women being told what they

5:52

can and can't wear after the overturning

5:55

of Roe feels very handmaid's

5:57

taley. Until

5:59

you remember that

6:02

the male senators have to wear suits

6:04

and ties. Like, there's a dress

6:06

code. Whatever,

6:09

you know, you you you

6:11

have to read beyond the headline. You

6:13

might even need to maybe

6:15

Google some sources from an article,

6:17

like, let's all just try to be aware

6:20

of what stories are solely

6:22

printed to incite partisan rage

6:25

because it's a it's a lot of them.

6:28

I'm starting to figure it out. And

6:32

it's it's kind of a big relief,

6:34

but you have to really

6:37

look into it. Alright. Let's take

6:39

some cowls. You

6:42

have been that creature. Now,

6:45

apparently,

6:56

Hi, Sarah. This is Melanie from Buffalo,

6:58

New York. I had a question about

7:01

the ethics of putting a dog down on an attacks

7:03

another dog or a person. My

7:06

dad's dog was recently attacked by

7:08

another dog. And you

7:11

know, completely vicious circumstances. He

7:14

was in a small enclosed area

7:16

at his apartment complex and

7:18

a dog walker with another dog

7:20

came in and the dog immediately

7:23

attacked my dad's dog and

7:25

damaged her ears so badly that she had

7:27

to have it removed. She's a

7:29

border collie without a single

7:31

mean bone in her body. As a matter of fact, when we

7:33

got her, we wanted to name her storm because of

7:35

her coloring. However, she was too

7:37

sweet so we named her rain because

7:39

she's more like a soft sweet rain that

7:41

just kisses your cheek when you're outside.

7:43

And it just was, totally

7:46

devastating. It put us through two weeks of hell of

7:48

wondering what was gonna happen to this poor dog, and

7:50

she may never be able to fetch again because

7:52

her vertigo is so bad now. Anyways,

7:56

we have not heard anything from animal

7:58

control, and we are emotionally

8:00

attached to the situation. So obviously, we

8:02

don't want to be involved in deciding what happens

8:04

to this dog. However, it

8:06

appears that nothing may happen

8:09

and I just can't imagine this

8:11

kind of thing won't happen again and it makes

8:13

me wonder about you know,

8:15

being on the side of the situation where,

8:17

you know, maybe it is the best thing to

8:19

do for the dog. And I just wanted

8:21

to get your opinion on this dog

8:23

that attack. Another dog and

8:25

what to do about?

8:27

I don't know. I'm

8:29

so sorry.

8:31

The dog

8:34

that holy fielded

8:36

your dog, hoist into your dog,

8:38

whatever bit is you're off. I don't

8:40

know that putting that dog down

8:42

is necessary as much as that

8:44

dog should never be around other

8:46

dogs unleashed. Maybe with,

8:48

you know, you can loop around

8:50

around their their their

8:52

their beak

8:53

there, their muzzle, whatever, what's

8:55

this called? What's this called on a

8:57

dog? Their

9:00

mouth? Their snout.

9:02

You

9:02

know, when you walk them, you can kind of put

9:04

some things where they can breathe and smell and all those

9:06

things, but they can't bite anyone. It

9:09

just seems like there are other solutions

9:11

But, boy, there is nothing

9:14

worse. This is I fucking hate

9:16

those people who

9:19

have like giant dog

9:21

and are like, oh, no. She's

9:23

sweet. You know? Like, yeah,

9:26

to you. You know, just to

9:28

not be aware of, just

9:30

people need to be very honest with

9:33

themselves and others. If they have

9:35

a dog, that flips

9:37

out with other dogs, you know. It's it's just

9:39

totally irresponsible. Our

9:41

big girl, Sippy, loves

9:44

people. We don't have to worry about her

9:46

around babies, toddlers, anyone.

9:48

She loves all people.

9:51

But she's really tricky

9:53

around other dogs that she

9:55

doesn't know, especially

9:58

some bigger dogs. And and

10:00

she's a big dog. And

10:03

we will not go out with

10:05

her unless she's on a

10:07

leash and we've got her,

10:09

sometimes on two leashes. It's

10:11

just you've got to be responsible with your

10:13

dogs. You know? The last

10:15

thing we want is for Sibby

10:17

to hurt or scare another dog. I

10:19

just don't get people who don't know their

10:21

dog's limits and it

10:23

won't admit them to

10:24

themselves. And that's how stuff like this

10:26

happens.

10:27

In fact, there was a Dog Walker, you

10:29

know, they

10:32

need to be advised how to handle a

10:35

dog that can

10:37

attack? I don't know

10:39

about putting it to sleep though. I mean,

10:41

God, you're probably not for capital punishment,

10:44

it does. So I don't know why we do that for

10:46

dogs. There's gotta be other things you can

10:48

do. Certainly, there are lots of things you

10:50

can do so that a dog doesn't bite another

10:52

dog like keep them on a leash and

10:54

maybe have a loop around their snout. I

10:56

don't know though. I'm not an expert

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Hi, Sarah. John here. You know,

14:13

something hit me

14:16

just the other day about

14:18

just representation in

14:21

movies or TV shows for people,

14:23

and I think, especially for kids.

14:25

And I never made this

14:27

connection before, is

14:29

I had there's this, like, show that

14:32

lasted for twelve episodes called

14:34

Will Get By. And it

14:36

was Pohl's Dorvina was the dad

14:39

and

14:40

Willie Ames was the kid, but

14:42

I was probably in six seven

14:44

bread. Oddly. And but the show

14:46

made such impression on me. Literally ran

14:48

for twelve episodes. You can't find it anywhere.

14:51

But you know what? It made an impression because it

14:53

was a family from New

14:55

Jersey. No one was ever from

14:57

New Jersey on a

14:59

TV show. Right? They're from New York,

15:01

California. And the

15:03

kid was my age, Willie Ames.

15:05

And you just felt like, wow,

15:07

this is a show about

15:09

me. And I think

15:11

that, especially for children, it is

15:13

important to see people

15:15

like you in shows.

15:17

You think if I fit your favorite characters

15:19

or or when you're a kid

15:21

especially is like, oh, wow. They're my age or

15:23

they have a family dynamic like mine

15:25

and things like that.

15:27

So I don't know. Just I I know

15:29

you're you're big on this, but I

15:31

think it's just my

15:33

personal story on.

15:34

I love that. What a thing

15:36

to realize? You know, like, you

15:38

always hear representation matters, but

15:40

to have an experience and remember it from your

15:42

childhood and go, oh, that was

15:44

because I saw representation that

15:47

was like me. It's

15:50

it's very cool. You

15:52

know, as a Jew from New

15:54

Hampshire, I I did not see anything in

15:56

art that even

15:58

showed working class Jews.

16:00

I think now there's the Goldbergs,

16:03

which is nice, The only time

16:05

I saw Jews on TV and movies

16:07

were as like scumbag

16:09

lawyers and stuff. Probably

16:11

why I loved Woody Allen movies so

16:13

much. I mean, It was still a

16:15

lot of tropes, you know, the the

16:18

neurotic Jewish man

16:20

who only wants to be with a, you

16:22

know, Shixa goddess you know, non

16:24

Jewish woman because Jewish women are hideous

16:27

nags, of course, you know. And

16:29

who lives in New York City and

16:32

that

16:32

was, of course, not my experience at all

16:35

as a child, but it

16:37

was something that

16:39

we

16:40

loved. You know, my dad's a

16:42

Boston guy. He's he's not

16:44

neurotic. He's masculine. Whatever

16:46

that means. He worked his ass off every day

16:48

doing a very historically

16:51

Jewish job. Retail, baby?

16:53

I

16:54

said this before by finding your roots

16:57

was hundreds of years of

16:59

so boring because it was just

17:01

Peddler, peddler, peddler, cuddler, peddler,

17:04

dressmaker, all this to

17:06

say, you know, people are not one

17:08

thing. So it's hard to see yourself

17:10

represented in art as

17:12

always one thing. You

17:14

know, you came to the realization,

17:18

that representation matters in such a sweet

17:21

way. And it's really nice that that's

17:23

changing now. You

17:25

know? But I don't know, think

17:27

about Arab

17:30

people, how they are represented in movies

17:32

and television, Indian

17:34

people, Asian people. I know that's both

17:36

Asian, you guys. I'm just

17:39

looking at you. How

17:43

they're represented in film and television,

17:45

how Hispanic people are represented. When

17:47

we were growing up especially,

17:50

and even now, we've come a

17:52

really long way and

17:54

a lot of people resisted, but seeing

17:56

all kinds of people in all kinds of ways

17:58

is really key to a healthy

18:00

society. Like art itself because not only is

18:03

representation important

18:05

to go

18:05

like, hey, that's like me, but

18:08

seeing Other people

18:11

represented who aren't like

18:13

you is

18:13

important. It's

18:15

how we see that we're not

18:18

so different after all. Right?

18:20

I always find it interesting when I hear street

18:22

white men complain about not

18:24

having opportunities anymore and being looked at as though

18:26

they represent the worst of

18:28

all straight white men and

18:31

god that I I see how that

18:33

must be so frustrating and

18:35

unfair. But I always think

18:37

like, yes, that's hard.

18:39

But I wonder how they don't take that

18:41

that feeling and think just

18:43

one step further, you

18:46

know, to realize like,

18:48

oh, Right. This is how it's been for everyone

18:50

else but me through

18:52

all of history until now.

18:55

Yeah.

18:57

That's fucked up instead of just but

19:00

I didn't do that.

19:03

Right. I know. It must be

19:04

hard. That's how

19:06

you can relate to all

19:08

the people before you for who

19:10

it was hard. And

19:12

is just now

19:15

getting

19:15

easier with the actual opportunities.

19:19

I had I didn't know you were doing this question, but I and

19:21

this may be nothing. But I

19:23

don't know if you remember when the little the

19:25

new trailer for the Little Meramey

19:27

drop

19:27

Yeah. So black little monoburamine. Yep.

19:30

There were all these videos that people

19:32

were posting showing their young black

19:34

--

19:34

Oh. -- daughters Yes. -- videos

19:37

and how they couldn't

19:39

believe that the little mermaid looked like her.

19:41

And it was, like,

19:43

so moving. I I was, like,

19:45

weeping through, like, video like, a deep dive of

19:47

videos because these little girls

19:48

have, like, very rarely seen

19:51

in Disney You know? And look

19:52

how simple it is to do that and

19:55

how fruitful

19:57

it is. We're gonna see how fruitful

20:00

that

20:00

is. In the coming years.

20:02

And then the

20:03

people upset about it, I mean, just

20:06

fucking mind blowing.

20:08

It's like being upset that because

20:10

Santa's white. They don't

20:12

wanna black Santa. You know, Santa

20:14

doesn't exist at all. Right?

20:17

It's very odd that people are so

20:19

afraid of change

20:21

or anything changing from how

20:23

they know it to be.

20:26

But look at the fruits of

20:28

of these changes. Thank

20:30

you, Amy as a very nice

20:33

point.

20:33

But it would be great for the

20:36

very frustrated and understandably

20:38

frustrated straight

20:40

white men in this industry

20:43

to go, oh,

20:45

this is so frustrating, gee, I

20:47

wonder, I guess that's how

20:49

Black people gay people Asian people, trans people,

20:51

etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, forever,

20:54

infinity might have felt when they couldn't

20:56

even get in the room

20:58

where these opportunities were happening. Oh, god.

21:01

And maybe they'd asked themselves, where

21:03

was I all that time?

21:05

Why didn't I notice that? Because

21:08

you're reminding your own business.

21:10

And, you know, that doesn't

21:13

help anybody.

21:13

I really took that question and

21:16

ran with it in all sorts of directions,

21:18

but there you go. What

21:20

else?

21:21

Hey, Sarah. This is

21:24

David from Boston. I

21:26

just woke up not too long ago from a

21:28

dream I had about you and I wanna jump in

21:30

to say that it was not

21:30

sexual. I

21:31

went to

21:32

a deli. If you

21:34

were there, it was just the two of us.

21:36

We had a great conversation.

21:39

And I took it as a

21:41

sign for this to be the day that I leave a

21:43

voice

21:43

mail. Yay. And it is

21:45

well received. So my

21:47

question for

21:48

Velocity. There you go. What else?

21:51

Hey, Sarah.

21:53

This is David from Boston. Boom.

21:56

I just woke up not too long ago

21:58

from a dream I had about you and

22:00

I wanna jump in to say that it

22:02

was not

22:02

sexual. I went to a deli, if you

22:04

were

22:05

there, It was just the two of us. We had a great conversation.

22:09

And I took it as a sign for this

22:11

to be the day that I leave a voice

22:12

mail. Yay. And it is

22:15

well received. So my question for

22:17

you is,

22:18

I am a teacher right

22:21

now. I

22:23

wanted to focus more on the mental health

22:25

crisis. So I decided to go back to

22:27

grad school to become

22:30

a therapist. And one thing that

22:32

we're learning about is compassion

22:34

fatigue. And along

22:37

with teaching, and doing

22:39

full time school. I'm also doing

22:41

internship where I'm practicing clinical

22:43

therapy a bit. And I

22:46

am already experiencing compassion

22:49

fatigue where My

22:52

empathy and compassion

22:54

and desire to help others is sometimes

22:58

it comes with drawbacks

23:00

and it

23:02

is what leads to burnout and

23:05

it is something that I didn't see coming. So my question is, do

23:07

you experience compassion fatigue

23:09

after a long day of

23:11

listening to your

23:13

awesome collars --

23:14

Yeah. --

23:15

problems. Just

23:17

interested to hear your

23:19

thoughts on this. Love you.

23:24

Probably isn't not as much as you, but

23:27

I'm not gonna lie. It takes a lot out

23:29

of me. Really does. Like, come home after these

23:30

recordings. And I'm just like,

23:32

I just need to I wanna smoke all the

23:34

pot in the world. Is that

23:37

That's know what? It's also my

23:40

responsibility to manage that.

23:43

I think you

23:45

can give care and still

23:47

have boundaries and

23:49

I'm I'm learning to protect myself

23:51

from taking on too much of

23:54

other people's souruses. That's

23:57

yiddish for troubles or

23:59

woes. Sourists. III

24:02

do have to kind of

24:04

consciously not take it on. And

24:07

it's it's actually I

24:09

believe more hopeful to

24:11

have emotional distance when

24:13

helping someone or or listening to

24:15

someone. You know, it's I've said this analogy before.

24:17

It's like, you want an emergency

24:20

room doctor that isn't like,

24:22

oh my god. Does it hurt? You know,

24:24

like, no. Just take the knife out of my

24:26

eye and please Take

24:29

your emotions out of it so you can help me. If you have

24:31

some kind of boundary, you're gonna be in

24:33

a stronger place to offer

24:36

care. And

24:38

you're in a stronger place to be able to go

24:40

home and not take it home

24:42

or at least not let it

24:44

swallow you up, you know. That

24:46

there's my two cents. I hope it helps. Good

24:48

luck. You're a bench.

24:50

What

24:50

else? Hi, Sarah. This is Sophie calling

24:53

from Baltimore. I know you've been trying to was

24:55

just wondering where you were in the past.

24:57

My journey started about six years ago. Really

24:59

all it took was one night out with a vegan

25:01

friend who graciously answered all my

25:04

since I had no idea the extent of animal cruelty

25:06

that goes on in factory farms or like was people

25:08

didn't even think about it, not to mention

25:10

the huge environmental impact. This was

25:12

also around the time I got my first dog as an adult, and she's

25:14

a French bulldog. So she asked and even

25:16

smart cycle will pick. So I was beginning

25:18

to see like, disconnect between loving

25:21

her and eating farm animals who

25:23

are really no different from her. Right.

25:25

Going vegan really was a complete one eighty

25:27

for me. I actually stood pride myself on being adventurous

25:29

and trying all kinds of foods. I've lived

25:31

in France for several years. I've eaten

25:33

things like, frogs, and snails, and

25:35

wild boar, Anyway, my biggest struggle

25:37

these days is being reminded of animal cruelty

25:39

every time I go to the supermarket or eat

25:41

out at restaurants. I also struggle with

25:43

how to talk about this stuff with friends

25:45

and family. Like, I don't wanna be preachy, but at

25:47

the same time, this is about the animals and they

25:49

don't have a voice, so we have to speak for

25:51

them. It's just that when I do go on my little

25:53

soapbox, I usually end up feeling pretty crappy

25:55

afterwards. I know food is so deeply personal

25:57

and cultural, and I I don't wanna offend people

25:59

or I haven't think I'm judging them.

26:01

So I've kind of put up and then having those conversations for

26:03

now and hope that maybe modeling

26:05

a vegan lifestyle might rub off on

26:08

them. Anyway, do you struggle with the

26:10

stuff too? And if you do, how do you deal

26:12

with it? Thanks. I'll be

26:13

bye. Yeah. I'm with you. I I

26:16

kind of struggle with it as well.

26:18

I don't like to

26:20

preach to others or, you know,

26:22

if people like, you mind if I order the blah

26:24

blah blah? And I'm like, no. No. It's,

26:26

of course. And I think the the

26:28

best way to influence others if

26:30

you're looking to do that is to just

26:32

do it by example, by just how

26:35

you live your life, you know, with

26:37

no judgment. But it's it's

26:39

it's getting harder and harder for

26:40

me. And and I'm I'm

26:43

not vegan. I

26:45

sometimes am vegan. I

26:47

really go I've been a vegetarian since

26:49

I was

26:50

seven. But in terms of cheese

26:52

and eggs, I go in

26:54

and out of it. Every once in a while,

26:56

I I'm like kind of disgusted

26:59

by eggs. And then every once in a while, I my

27:01

body needs

27:01

it. It is how I

27:04

feel. And

27:04

I'm able to eat eat them.

27:07

And, you know,

27:09

I get very little forms

27:12

of that kind of protein. You

27:14

know, it's funny because if you believe

27:16

in that blood type diet, which I have no idea, but

27:18

I once looked it up because

27:20

I was working at a place where everyone was

27:22

on this blood type diet.

27:24

And my blood type is basically like,

27:28

I should be eating, like,

27:30

red meat and blood. And

27:32

I have very low blood pressure.

27:35

So it's probably something like I

27:37

I understand that I probably have a body

27:39

that craves blood. But

27:42

I don't. I mean, it's just not an option.

27:44

I I could never. So,

27:48

yeah, sometimes I eat

27:50

cheese and eggs, and then other times

27:52

I can't it makes me

27:54

gag to think about it.

27:57

And that's where I'm at personally, but,

28:00

you know, I don't even take pills

28:02

or vitamins that that are made with gelatin.

28:05

do have I'm wearing sneakers that

28:07

are made of leather right now. Most of

28:09

them aren't, but and I have

28:11

leather

28:11

boots. So I'm

28:13

Kind of all over the

28:16

place. My partner eats meat. Rory.

28:19

Rory sometimes, he's not a big

28:21

meat eater, but he he does like

28:23

meat. And most of my friends and family

28:25

eat

28:25

meat. And at

28:27

a table with them

28:30

more recently, I I get

28:33

queasy from it. I I really

28:35

do, but I I tough it out.

28:37

Because I don't wanna judge them. And we live

28:39

in a culture that eats meat, but it's

28:41

gotten harder and harder because to

28:44

be honest, my whole life I have just never

28:46

understood killing or eating animals. I just

28:49

it's it's feels

28:51

even as a child

28:53

Kast totally barbaric to me. You know,

28:56

like

28:56

like when you find out some cultures

28:59

eat dogs, And you

29:01

go, oh my god. That's so

29:03

crazy. I'm like, I don't is

29:05

it? I mean, you eat meat. I why

29:07

would you think that's crazy? You're

29:09

doing that. You

29:11

know, you you see dogs differently,

29:14

but they're animals. You

29:16

know? Like, is it too cute for

29:18

you to eat? I mean, people

29:20

eat

29:20

venison, pows,

29:20

pigs, I

29:21

find those animals

29:24

incredibly adorable and

29:26

beautiful and and

29:28

that they have feelings and

29:30

can connect and and

29:32

love them and

29:35

just Yeah. I don't know.

29:37

It just seems absolutely bananas,

29:39

but I also

29:42

partake in in these

29:44

leather sneakers. I'm wearing these pumas or leather.

29:46

I don't know. I didn't answer a

29:48

question, but I There I

29:50

am commiserating with you a

29:51

little. There

29:52

you go. White House. Hi, Sarah.

29:55

This is Micah, and I'm

29:57

a big fan, longtime listener

29:59

of your podcast. Love what you're

30:01

doing. I just wanted to ask you a question about my

30:03

midlife crisis. I'm forty

30:06

and recently divorced. I

30:08

have a five year old girl and a three year

30:10

old girl. And as a part of

30:13

my midlife crisis, I

30:15

started looking for new careers to

30:17

get away from being a real estate

30:19

photographer. And I

30:21

applied to the police department

30:23

as a video producer

30:25

and to the fire department

30:28

to be a firefighter. Well,

30:30

I ended up getting both jobs.

30:32

The police hired me first And

30:34

now the firefighters wanna hire me. Wow.

30:36

But my question to you is,

30:38

which job should I ultimately

30:41

take police job takes pays

30:43

thirty thousand dollars more than a

30:45

firefighter job. But I feel like I

30:47

would be like

30:49

a hero or something being

30:51

a firefighter, and my kids would

30:53

really look up to me over

30:56

the long term. So I just

30:58

wanted to see which job do you think would be better, more money,

31:00

or more respect?

31:02

Alright. Thank you. Bye. I can't

31:04

make this decision for you,

31:06

but I would like to offer a

31:09

different way to frame

31:12

this decision for you because I I

31:14

think you're looking at it.

31:16

Wrong in my opinion. Don't become

31:18

a firefighter so that your

31:21

kids look up to you and and think

31:23

your

31:23

hero. That's

31:26

That's not that's

31:29

not a good enough

31:31

reason. It is I mean, firefighters

31:33

are fucking

31:34

heroes. It's also a job where you can get

31:36

killed, and it's a real job you've

31:38

gotta do. It's awesome that

31:41

you have been hired to

31:43

be one. I fucking love

31:45

firefighters. And

31:48

what you what they do is

31:50

heroic but it's got to be a job that you

31:52

love and you're passionate about. You can't

31:54

just take a job because of what

31:56

your daughters might think

31:58

about that job. What

32:01

how you can make your daughters proud

32:03

is to do something that that

32:05

makes you proud, to do something that

32:08

you love doing and

32:10

to to be happy in your life

32:12

is a great thing you can do for your kids

32:14

to show them how

32:16

dad is making choices,

32:19

not necessarily based on money, but based on

32:22

his happiness. I think

32:24

you've gotta go with passion. Or

32:26

money if you need to make more money, take the job

32:28

that pays more money, but the fact that you're

32:30

deciding between them tells me that

32:33

you can afford to take you

32:36

can afford to take a job

32:38

that that makes less. So first of all,

32:40

congrats on getting those jobs. I know it's

32:42

hard to become firefighter. There are waiting

32:45

lists in some places to be

32:47

firefighters. But, yeah, the

32:49

heroes respect from your kids

32:51

thing, just be a great

32:52

dad. That's

32:54

where you get that. Go to their

32:57

games. That's how

32:59

you get

32:59

that. Make sure they

33:02

have healthy meals that

33:04

feed their bodies. That's how

33:05

you do

33:07

that. That's the

33:07

hero stuff. It

33:09

it might sound boring,

33:11

but that's the hero stuff. Risking

33:13

your life as a firefighter is

33:16

amazing? And amidst fa.

33:18

But for your family, for your kids, you're

33:20

risking them not having a

33:21

father. I'm not saying there's that's

33:24

wrong. But

33:26

but it is something they're going

33:28

to grow to know,

33:31

hopefully not the hard way. Pupoo

33:33

poo, FFF. So yeah, it's cool

33:35

as fuck. And you're a hero,

33:38

firefighters or goddamn heroes.

33:41

No bones about it, but don't think it gets

33:43

you out of taking care of your kids and doing

33:45

the daily grind of feeding

33:47

them, reading to making sure they have everything they need, loving

33:50

them. There are plenty of firefighters,

33:51

I'm sure that are shit dads

33:53

or moms, which I'm sure

33:55

you are not. But that's

33:58

the hero stuff. That's the hero

34:00

stuff that being a firefighter doesn't

34:02

get you out of.

34:03

Kids don't They

34:06

don't benefit from god complex

34:08

parents. They don't benefit from

34:10

hero complex

34:11

parents. So do it. Don't

34:14

do it. Pick, cop,

34:17

pick,

34:17

firefighter. Pick the

34:19

one that will bring you

34:21

the most joy. Period. Don't

34:23

don't pick out of what

34:25

you think might be cooler

34:27

to your kids.

34:29

Just take care of them, be responsible

34:31

for your own

34:34

happiness, first and

34:36

foremost, and

34:38

make your choice. Good luck. What

34:40

else? Oh, hey, Sarah, oh, we

34:42

we got you know the caller from last week,

34:44

Kast who was asking for

34:47

someone to go with him to Atlantic City. We had

34:49

a we

34:49

had a

34:50

couple calls from people saying they are willing

34:52

to make the trips. Oh my

34:53

god. That's perfect. Well, what is it?

34:56

Too long lost? Yeah. Alright.

34:58

Let's

34:58

listen to this. Hi, Sarah. Oh,

35:01

I love

35:03

you. I don't know you. That's weird, but I do. I love you.

35:06

For who you are on stage and on the

35:08

TV and on in

35:10

my ears, I

35:12

need a friend to go see

35:14

you in Atlantic City because all

35:16

of my friends are out and I'm

35:19

listening to your podcast and some guy named Code

35:21

needs a friend, and I'm

35:24

newly divorced. I

35:26

have gone through the ringer, the

35:30

past four years, and I would love some

35:32

fun. So if toad still

35:34

needs a front date,

35:38

I'm down. My name's

35:40

Chelsea. Okay,

35:41

bye. I

35:43

love you. Oh my gosh.

35:45

Hi, Sarah. It's

35:47

Becky. We don't know each other, but I just had

35:49

to pull over. And because

35:52

I heard Todd talk

35:56

about being his we're while finding

35:58

a paternal not

36:02

paternal

36:03

paternal. Not platonic. Not

36:06

fraternal. Oh my

36:08

god. But whatever, there's someone

36:10

that wants to go to the AC

36:13

show with someone because they don't have

36:15

anyone. And that's me too. I am

36:18

not someone who has friends

36:20

that are cool enough to go to comedy

36:22

shows with. It's

36:24

terrible. I have to go along. I go. So pick me.

36:26

Pick me. I would love to go with toad.

36:28

I'm going with toad. This is

36:31

his name. And It

36:34

can be totally totally totally.

36:38

Totally. Just a friendship thing. I

36:40

can't remember the

36:42

word. I'm so tired from driving three

36:44

hours in in Connecticut to Pennsylvania. I would love to

36:46

be the person picked for that.

36:50

I have been relying

36:52

on scratch off lottery tickets

36:54

since I took down my Christmas

36:56

lights for new enhancement.

36:58

And this would be pretty

37:01

helpful for stopping that

37:03

habit. Please take me.

37:06

I would love to be there. I don't need to meet you.

37:08

I heard you say

37:09

that, but I'll go I'll go

37:11

that doesn't need to be the thing. Like, what

37:13

do we do? We have two. I think he

37:15

just had one extra

37:18

ticket. Tod. Do we know his name was Tod?

37:20

Yeah. Yeah.

37:21

I think I think it's pretty pretty

37:23

yeah. Tod,

37:26

are how do we do this? I don't know I

37:28

mean,

37:28

I wish we could pick both. I

37:30

I don't know if we can get, like,

37:34

Do you do we

37:35

we have their emails, Raj? We

37:37

have all toad's email is where because

37:39

that's how I it it's toad in the email,

37:41

so that's why

37:43

I assume it's and then the other two emails as well.

37:45

Yeah. Amy,

37:46

are you

37:47

there? Amy? Yes. What's the question? Do

37:49

you think we can okay.

37:52

So First of all, nobody else call in.

37:54

They're the tickets the the gravy

37:56

train is over. We're not even gonna

38:00

take calls passed today because it will just

38:02

go crazy. But this

38:04

one guy toad who called last week

38:06

who has an extra ticket for Atlantic

38:09

City Amy,

38:10

two people called in to say, we want

38:13

that extra ticket. Okay. Do

38:15

you think we could

38:18

email Maybe we

38:22

email Tod and find

38:24

out where what his tickets are

38:26

and see if we can get

38:28

a ticket one side or the other of him

38:30

and let them both

38:31

go. I mean, what are the

38:34

chances that there's an

38:36

open ticket that we don't know. But We

38:38

can probably we can probably

38:40

arrange for one ticket for the

38:42

other person and see how close we could

38:44

get them. It might be a

38:46

little awkward that toad is sitting with a stranger and a stranger.

38:48

Are are the two people both

38:51

Did they know each other? No. No.

38:52

They're two separate calls. I mean, another

38:55

maybe we another

38:56

thing maybe we do is, like,

38:58

get them three tickets and

39:01

absorb the two

39:04

tickets back so that

39:06

they can figure something

39:08

out. Alright. We'll figure

39:10

something out. But no more calls. We're not gonna take

39:12

them. Peace and love. Peace and

39:14

love. Because that

39:16

will just get crazy.

39:18

But

39:20

I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS

39:22

TO WORK OUT.

39:23

FOR TOAD AND CHELSEA

39:25

AND BECKEY. CHELSEA AND

39:27

BECKEY AND TOAD. Who are

39:29

gonna become best friends.

39:31

I love

39:32

it. Alright. We'll figure it out.

39:35

Well, dad. This is the the time of the show where I say

39:38

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39:40

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39:42

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39:47

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39:49

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39:52

See you next time. Hey.

39:58

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