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and DeSantis Governor, welcome back to the

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program. Always great to have you. Hey,

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thanks so much, Sean. Great to be here.

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You know, I look at the

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state of Florida. This is a phenomenon that's happening,

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and I think in large part it's because

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of what you're saying, the Courage to Be Free.

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But you have states like New York California

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losing nearly a thousand residents

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a day. Florida is

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picking up about eight hundred and fifty

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new residents every single day,

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more than any other state in the country. And

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you know, on the downside of this, when

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you look at presidential elections, you

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know, if people are moving from Wisconsin and

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their conservative and Michigan and their conservative,

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in Pennsylvania and their conservative and then

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move into Florida or the Carolinas

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or Texas, that makes

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any Republican running for president,

1:06

that makes that job that much harder However,

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there is a reason for this mass migration,

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and I would argue it's about

1:14

freedom. It's about people

1:16

sick of shutdowns, as sick of the weather, the sick

1:19

of high taxes and regulation. Yeah,

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I mean, look, I think that there's a lot to

1:24

be said for a variety of factors.

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I mean, just compare New York. You and I have had

1:28

this discussion before. New York

1:30

has two to three million fewer

1:33

people than Florida, and yet New York's

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budget is twice the size

1:37

of Florida's budget. And yet we have better infrastructure,

1:40

our services are better, and our K through

1:42

twelve schools perform higher. So

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what are you getting for all the taxes

1:46

that you're paying and what are they spending this money

1:49

on. Florida is also the

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number one state, fastest

1:53

growing state, number one or one of the top

1:55

states for lowest tax burden, and then one

1:57

of the lowest debt burdens. And we have

1:59

the big budget surplus we've ever had

2:02

with no state income tax. So

2:04

you can just see how these things go. And

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yet, look, the migration has always been something.

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People work in New York, they get older,

2:12

they moved to Boca. That has been happening long

2:14

before I was here. But I think what's different

2:16

in the last four or five years because you've

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got people in the prime of their careers going

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from California to Florida. I

2:23

never saw Florida license plate growing

2:26

up here in Florida. Then we start seeing

2:28

all these Californats. A lot of Floridines were worried about

2:30

how these people were going to vote. Well, I do think it

2:32

turns out a lot of them liked what we

2:34

were doing. But you're going three

2:36

thousand miles across the country. Yes,

2:39

the taxes, Yes, the way the states

2:41

run crime has been a huge issue

2:43

because you've had Soros backed prosecutors

2:46

in many of these blue cities that haven't

2:48

that have let the criminals roam free. They've

2:51

attacked the police, they've defunded

2:53

police, and crime has gone through the roof.

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In Florida, our crime rates at a fifty year low.

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And then I do think there were a lot of COVID refugees

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because the restrictions

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that those Blue states were doing were going on forever

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and they just weren't sensible, and so people

3:08

just had enough of it. So we're happy

3:11

that we've been to place people wanted to vote

3:13

with their feet on. I don't sean go out and beg

3:15

people to come here because it's we

3:17

need more infrastructure. There's a lot of things that you've got

3:19

to do when that happens, and so but it just happens

3:22

organically and the results

3:24

speak for themselves. You see leftist

3:26

governments driving people away, and

3:29

then states that perform, like Florida,

3:31

are where everybody's going. I've had

3:33

property in Florida, as you know, for two decades,

3:36

and I can't wait to move down there myself,

3:38

to be very honest, and then

3:40

contractually, I have issues that keep me in New York.

3:43

But what I'm seeing is when I talk to

3:46

people and I ask them, why are you

3:48

leaving? Why are you picking up? You

3:50

know, families that have lived in Michigan,

3:52

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

3:55

New York for all these years,

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why are they leaving? They're mentioned

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everything that you just said, you know, you talk

4:02

about, for example, the population

4:05

similarity with New York. I

4:07

can speak firsthand. The infrastructure

4:10

is probably you know, fifty times

4:12

better down in Florida. But

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you have half the budget, you

4:17

have a budget surplus. And

4:19

I know you, buddy Gavin Newsom, who doesn't

4:21

appear to like you very much. He's

4:23

going to be struggling with it. What a forty billion

4:26

dollar budget deficit this year? Yeah,

4:29

No, I mean, I think that's a great example

4:31

in that California had been one state

4:34

that was the epitome of the American dream.

4:36

They had never lost population and

4:39

their whole time as a state until the last

4:41

four or five years, it was the place under

4:43

President Reagan that people would want

4:46

to go to for decades. It

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was the middle class nirvana. And now

4:51

those people are being pushed out of that state

4:53

in record numbers. Their tax base

4:56

has constricted. I think they were always

4:58

arrogant about it because I think they thought, Hey, our

5:00

weather so good, We've got so much going on

5:02

for us. We can govern poorly, but what

5:04

are people going to do. They're never going to leave California.

5:07

Well now they are leaving California.

5:09

And yes, Texas is getting a lot, Arizona,

5:11

some of the West. But the number of people

5:13

we've gotten to go clear across the country in Florida

5:16

is really amazing. And I'll tell you, Sean, when

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I talk to these folks, they don't

5:20

regret it. They like what we're

5:22

doing in Florida, they appreciate it,

5:25

and they feel some of the people that leave,

5:27

like California, they don't even

5:29

feel like they can speak about any of

5:31

these issues publicly because the intellectual

5:34

currents are so oppressive. So then they

5:36

come down here and they're like Miami, it's

5:38

a big city, but it's like I carried

5:40

the county by eleven percent. There's a lot

5:42

of like minded people. They can speak their mind

5:45

and it's not the same as it's not received

5:47

the same as if they were in northern California.

5:50

Let me talk about national elections in

5:52

this sense, because Florida,

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I think has led the way. Can

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anybody with any certainty say

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that with hanging swinging

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perforated chads

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that it was that the

6:06

two thousand election, we can say with any

6:08

certainty that the exact number was five hundred

6:11

and thirty seven in terms of the victory

6:13

margin for President George W. Bush.

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But Florida then fixed its

6:17

problems when you ran into a problem as governor

6:19

in twenty you know, sixteen,

6:22

you'd deal with that issue when you first

6:24

came into office in twenty nineteen,

6:27

some of the problems that you had, And

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so my question to you is in

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Florida Republicans and Conservatives,

6:36

they have no problem voting by mail, They

6:38

have no problem voting early. Also,

6:42

every state except Alabama has some

6:44

version of legal ballot harvesting,

6:47

and that takes place also in Florida,

6:49

based on the law and based on very stringent

6:52

integrity measures. Oh

6:54

you don't have ballot harvesting. Oh yeah, no, I

6:57

think that was a reform that I did after

6:59

the twenty twenty So, yeah, when I came in in twenty

7:01

nineteen, one of the first things

7:03

I did was I accepted the resignation of

7:06

Brenda Snipes as Supervisor of Broward

7:08

County, huge problem. We

7:10

removed the Palm Beach Supervisor of Elections

7:13

and so we were able to get people in there that

7:15

ran those elections for the twenty

7:17

twenty election with transparency and efficiency,

7:20

and it was so much better. But what we

7:22

also saw in the aftermath of twenty twenty,

7:25

because you had a lot of these states and we refused

7:27

to do this in Florida, they changed the rules. They

7:29

mass mailed ballots. There was a lot of ballot

7:32

harvesting going on, and we didn't

7:34

really have a lot in Florida.

7:37

But I said, you know, we've got to tighten

7:39

this up. So twenty twenty one, we did

7:41

a big reform. We banned ballot

7:43

harvesting and we banned Zuckerbucks

7:46

in the state of Florida, so you can't do any

7:48

of those. We have absentee ballot

7:50

requests, but you, as the voter, have

7:53

to have ID and you have to personally

7:55

request it. Then they will mail it

7:57

to you. But they do not. The supervisors

8:00

are not allowed in Florida to just mail

8:02

a ballot to everybody. Shawn, these voter

8:04

roles in places like Nevada and California.

8:07

They've got people that haven't lived there for twenty

8:09

years on their voter rolls and they're sending them

8:11

ballots just out into the ether.

8:13

So that doesn't work. So I think we did

8:16

very well in twenty twenty, but we

8:18

also saw some of the pitfalls, so we

8:20

did a big reform. So in twenty twenty two,

8:23

you know, we really clicked on all cylinders.

8:26

We have actually now in the state

8:28

government, we have an election crimes unit

8:30

that can bring prosecution in any jurisdiction,

8:32

and that's really I think helped deter

8:35

people from wanting to do it. But I

8:37

think the messages you should

8:39

try to reform your elections in

8:42

your states by doing things like banning

8:44

ballot harvesting and all that. I'm one hundred percent

8:46

for that, but not every state has done that.

8:48

And so my message is just whatever the rules

8:51

are, we've got to be exploiting

8:53

that. We can't let the Democrats do

8:55

it. So if Zuckerbucks were legal,

8:58

I think Republicans should do it. I think

9:00

they should be legal. But if they are legal

9:02

in a state, we've got a fight with both

9:04

hands ready to go, and I don't think we should have

9:06

a hand tied behind our back. You see,

9:09

that was my general point, and that is

9:12

is that around the country there is a

9:14

mysterious reluctance resistance

9:16

among Republicans to even vote by mail

9:19

or vote early. And in those

9:21

states where Democrats, you know,

9:23

they don't even campaign, they don't even debate,

9:25

like Haitie Hobbs out in Arizona,

9:28

they run, They run hundreds of millions

9:30

of dollars in negative ads. They

9:33

hide, they don't debate, they don't shake hands,

9:35

they don't do selfies, they

9:37

don't do town halls, they don't do press avails,

9:40

they don't run on a better agenda

9:43

or better ideas, but they're

9:45

in the ballot harvesting business based on the

9:47

law of that state, and

9:50

it's it's shown effective. And Republicans,

9:52

you know, of starting these elections down and these

9:55

other states by you

9:57

know, seven hundred thousand to a million votes

9:59

in some cases, that's not the case in Florida.

10:02

Why haven't these other states adopted what

10:04

you've done in Florida so successfully.

10:06

Well, I think there's a couple of things. I mean, Florida,

10:09

the Republican Party of Florida was the ones

10:11

that pioneered absentee voting. It

10:13

used to be we would beat the Democrats

10:15

in the absentee voting, they beat us in the

10:17

early in person voting. COVID

10:20

kind of switch that to where now

10:22

the Democrats like the absentee we're competitive

10:24

with them on that, but then we'd blow them

10:27

out in early in person in an election

10:29

day. Look, I think having this early voting

10:31

for six weeks as a disaster in

10:34

some of these states. I think they absolutely

10:36

need to get rid of that or at least shorten.

10:38

At Florida, we have a one

10:40

week mandatory early voting.

10:44

I Look, I prefer election day, and

10:46

I would probably support going to just

10:49

that, but I think a lot of people flor to

10:51

like it. So we tell people, guys,

10:54

I'd go to my rallies. I'd say, guys, the polls

10:56

are open today, you know, just go and

10:58

vote. You never know what's going to happen on an election

11:00

day. You could have a flat tire, you could have a family

11:02

emergency if you're going back and

11:05

forth, and you know what, the message was

11:07

heard. Because we clean the

11:09

Democrat clock in early in

11:11

person voting, I mean it was a bloodbath.

11:14

We also clean their clock on election day

11:16

two. But if you have votes

11:18

banks going into election day that

11:21

there's very little less bad

11:23

things that can happen on election day.

11:25

You know, you saw in Arizona they had like problems with

11:27

some of the stuff in one of these lines we

11:29

are. I think we had a candidate running for one of the

11:31

cabinet like attorney general, lost like three

11:33

hundred votes. Well you know what, that may

11:35

have gone the other way if you didn't have

11:37

that hiccup. But if those votes would have voted

11:40

early, would not have been an issue.

11:42

So I just think whatever the rules are,

11:44

we've got to go. We can all. I support

11:46

big election integrity reform across the

11:49

country, let's do it. But in twenty

11:51

four a lot of that's not going to probably

11:53

be done yet, so we've got to exploit the

11:55

system as it is. We continue

11:57

with the Governor of the Free State of Florida on

12:00

the Santis is with us. To me, the reason

12:02

I'm a conservative is because conservative

12:04

principles and policies work.

12:07

We believe as conservatives in liberty.

12:09

We believe in freedom. We believe in the

12:11

First Amendment. We believe in the Second Amendment.

12:13

We believe in our Constitution. We

12:16

believe in simple things like energy independence,

12:18

the lifeblood of the world's economy. We believe

12:20

in in law and order, in safety,

12:23

security so people can pursue happiness

12:25

freely. We believe that

12:27

if we have laws governing our borders,

12:30

they should be enforced. We

12:32

believe in judges that believe in

12:34

the Constitution and won't legislate

12:36

from the bench. We believe in peace

12:39

through strength. You know, very very

12:41

simple principles. You talk about

12:43

Florida's blueprint for American revival,

12:46

isn't that pretty much all

12:48

that the country, if it implemented

12:51

those policies, would would

12:53

be winning on every front? And

12:55

I think, yeah, I mean, I think if you go to if

12:57

people go to the stantusbook dot com and by

13:00

by the book, almost

13:02

everything that you mentioned, we've applied

13:04

at the state of Florida and have knocked

13:07

out a lot of the big issues. I mean, then think

13:09

about we've also gone against kind of the old

13:12

school DC Republican

13:14

establishment talking points and some of the stuff.

13:16

Take immigration. I came in and

13:19

I banned sanctuary cities. I got the legislature

13:21

to pass. It should have been done long before,

13:23

but it wasn't. So I did it. And a lot of people said,

13:26

you can't go after illegal immigration.

13:28

You've got a lot of Latinos. We need

13:31

the Latinos to win in Florida. And

13:33

I was like, you know what, these Latinos

13:35

don't want sanctuary cities. And

13:37

so we did it. And I'll tell you every single

13:40

poll that the media ever put out, Hispanics

13:42

approved of my policies against

13:45

illegal immigration more than any other

13:47

group. And then when we did the transport

13:49

to Martha's Vineyard in September,

13:52

the media, because some of them were Venezuelans,

13:54

the media was saying the Venezuelans and Miami,

13:56

We're going to punish me in the election.

13:59

And yet I think I want to record with Venezuelan

14:01

Americans in our election, and

14:03

many of them thank me because they saw

14:05

Maduro sending a lot of people in the United

14:08

States. So the bottom line is, I think when

14:10

you're bold, when you stand

14:12

for what's right, when you show some courage

14:14

in the face of the fire that you're going to take, when

14:16

you're standing for our principles, you

14:18

can accomplish a lot of great things.

14:20

And think about it, the vast majority

14:22

of Floridians think this country

14:25

is on the wrong track, but they think Florida

14:28

is on the right track. You think those would

14:30

go in the same direction, because obviously we're

14:32

part of the country. But they see the different

14:35

between a government that's representing their values

14:37

and I like to think a leader like me who's

14:40

willing to stand for them versus

14:42

what we have in DC, which

14:44

is just ignoring all those principles

14:47

you just outline and seemingly

14:49

never standing up for the hard working

14:51

people this country. All right, quick break, welcome

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15:43

you the question

15:46

about the direction of the country.

15:48

How do we reconcile with

15:50

Maybe is it forty percent of the country

15:52

that believes in defund

15:54

dismantle nobaeil laws. I

15:57

don't know what percentage Americans

16:00

are watching the chaos at our border, over

16:02

five million illegal immigrants last

16:04

year. Uh, nobody seems

16:07

to like it. People see the fentanyl

16:09

problem, the opioid problem, the

16:11

heroine problem, the impact that's having

16:13

on our youth in this country. We

16:15

see, you know, record high prices

16:18

for gasoline, for diesel, for

16:20

heating and cooling our homes. Every

16:23

item we buy and every store we go to costs

16:25

more. And it seems to

16:27

all, you know, trickle down from

16:30

this ideology, this philosophy

16:33

that America must go green even

16:36

though we don't have the

16:39

technology that would replace the

16:41

lifeblood of our economy, which is fossil

16:43

fuels and less

16:45

and until that day comes, you

16:47

know, we have more natural resources

16:49

than any other country in the world. It's

16:52

a total no brainer. I mean, we should be

16:55

exploiting all of our oil and gas,

16:57

building more pipelines, streamline

17:00

the ability for these companies to produce

17:02

is better for our economy, is better for our

17:04

national security, and better for the pocketbooks

17:07

of Americans. But you know, Sean, I think

17:09

like sometimes like people are pessimistic about

17:11

what's going on in the country, and I am too,

17:14

understandably, and it's frustrating. But

17:16

I think what we've shown in Florida is, you

17:18

know, I came into office winning by thirty two

17:21

thousand votes. I set out and

17:23

did four years of an agenda along

17:25

the lines of all the things you just mentioned,

17:28

fighting the left at every single

17:30

turn, and we turned a thirty two thousand

17:32

vote victory margin into a one point

17:34

five million victory vote margin. That's

17:37

a little bit of a different margin from

17:40

the first time that you ran, that's for sure.

17:42

And what happened, Sean.

17:44

I'm down in Miami Dad

17:47

for example, two point eight million people,

17:49

largest county in Florida, bigger

17:52

than a number of states in

17:54

our country in terms of population, seventy

17:56

percent Latino. It had voted for

17:58

Hillary Clinton in twenty six by

18:00

thirty percentage points. I

18:02

lost it four years ago when I

18:04

was running, and yet I was able to notly

18:06

be the first Republican in a generation to win

18:08

it, but I want it by double digits. And

18:11

the reason we were able to do that is because

18:13

we were able to win votes from people

18:16

who had not necessarily voted Republican

18:19

in the past, but we were standing for

18:21

the things that had the most residents in their lives.

18:23

And I do think this whole

18:25

woke ideology that we've been fighting

18:28

about in Florida. We say Florida's where woke

18:30

goes to die. You know that resonates

18:33

with blue collar people because think

18:35

about it, You'll have some crazy

18:37

leftists trying to tell us that like a

18:39

man can get pregnant, and you know

18:42

what does some construction worker think about

18:44

that? I mean, I think it's crazy. And so

18:46

we fought the woke at every turn, and

18:49

I think we were representing the values

18:51

of so many people that were not necessarily

18:54

traditional Republican voters. So do

18:56

I think that there's a strong

18:59

majority in this country that wants

19:01

to fight wokeness, that wants to

19:03

be energy and dependent, that one safe

19:05

streets in the stand up for the police, in the whole

19:07

nine yards. I do think that there's a majority

19:10

for that. I've watched and

19:13

I've had you on both radio and TV talking

19:15

about a number of issues when they come up.

19:17

For example, I watched

19:19

how you handled COVID, which was

19:22

very different than the rest of the country, and

19:24

frankly, the results speak for

19:26

themselves. I've watched you stand up

19:28

to that woke agenda. I've

19:31

watched you, for example, on the Parental Rights

19:33

and Education Act. Your

19:35

critics called it to don't say Gay bill,

19:38

but the word gay was never in the bill,

19:40

and all it did was prohibit instruction on

19:42

sexual orientation or a gender

19:45

identity from kindergarten

19:47

through third grade. That's all that was in the bill.

19:50

I've watched a tax and

19:52

people even going as far as you know, inferring

19:55

that you are racist because

19:57

you looked at the tenants of CRT,

20:00

the elements of I don't even use

20:02

the pejorative for gays

20:05

and lesbians that begins with a Q theory,

20:08

I don't even want to use that word. And that

20:11

was all in the curriculum,

20:13

that was part of the curriculum, and

20:15

you say no, that's not going to be taught in

20:18

Florida's schools, and then income

20:20

the predictable attacks from

20:22

the left with money from outside

20:24

the state of Florida. So far, I

20:27

think you've been able to handle every attack really

20:29

well. But they're out there and certainly

20:31

people are gunning for you because

20:34

of the things you're standing up for. Well,

20:36

i'll tell you Sean soon. You mentioned that ap course

20:39

where they were jam and basically neo Marxism

20:41

into it. It doesn't satisfy Florida's

20:44

standards. I mean, our standards are you're going to

20:46

get an education here. You're not getting

20:48

the ideological indoctrination

20:51

that the left is trying to put into our

20:53

schools. And so we've got to fight these fights.

20:56

But you know, we were the only

20:58

state that formally of jected to

21:01

that course. I don't think we were the only state

21:03

that actually objected, in fact,

21:05

but we were the only ones to go public. Why because

21:07

you know, the minute that you do that,

21:10

they are going to call you names. They're

21:12

going to say you're a racist in this and that. But

21:14

as Republicans and as conservatives, we

21:16

cannot let the left demogogue

21:19

us into not doing the right thing.

21:21

So just because they may call you a bad name,

21:24

that's not a reason for you to shirk

21:27

from your responsibility to stand up for what's

21:29

right. So we understand, we get incoming

21:31

and all this stuff. But I think what's happened

21:33

is because the media has

21:35

overshot so many times when they go

21:38

after me or Florida that people

21:40

they they're skeptical when the media starts

21:42

ginning this stuff up because they usually

21:45

know they're not getting the whole story. And I

21:47

think on the ap thing, you know, we I

21:49

had some of the biggest critics on

21:51

the left in Florida even acknowledge

21:53

the governor was right on this. You know, we shouldn't

21:56

be we shouldn't be doing you know this garbage.

21:58

It was not good education.

22:00

It was basically neo Marxist

22:03

indoctrination. I know I

22:05

have to ask you the question. I know the

22:07

answer because everybody's asked you already.

22:10

Are you thinking about a potential run in twenty

22:12

twenty four. So

22:15

it's interesting because last year, you know, I get

22:17

asked this all the time, and I have a lot of supporters

22:19

around the country like telling me, you know, you know, you to

22:21

do it, and I made the point, Look, I'm

22:24

proud of what I've done in Florida, but I'm running.

22:26

I got this campaign and I

22:29

got to get vindication from the voters,

22:31

and so we really weren't thinking

22:33

about anything except

22:35

going running through the tape. And so now

22:37

that we're on the other side of that election, of course

22:39

I did so well. A lot of people you know who

22:41

are asking, and so we were definitely listening

22:44

to people. But I also have a

22:46

legislative session coming up. We have now

22:49

supermajorities in the Florida legislature,

22:51

so I've got the next three months where

22:54

we're going to be able to put a lot of points on

22:56

the board for the people of Florida. And so

22:58

I'm going to be focused on doing Matt. We are

23:00

going to be talking about this book, you know, for this

23:02

week and maybe sometime next because

23:04

I think it's a good message. But that's what we'll be

23:06

doing. Then when we get on the other side of that, then

23:09

we'll be in a position, we'll be able to make an assessment

23:11

and make some decisions. All right. The book

23:14

is now number one on Amazon, It's on number

23:16

one on every website that

23:18

sells books. It's called The Courage

23:20

to Be Free, Florida's Blueprint for American

23:23

Revival, by Governor Ronda

23:25

Santis. It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon

23:27

dot com, Barnes, Anoble dot com,

23:30

bookstores all across the country. I

23:32

think every state can learn a lot about

23:34

how to run their states more efficiently, and

23:37

yes, the Courage to Be Free. If

23:39

Americans learn that, I think we can

23:41

return to American greatness once again,

23:44

which would be an amazing task,

23:47

especially in light of the current administration. Governor,

23:49

we always appreciate your time. Thank you as always.

23:52

I think I'll see you in Florida sometime

23:54

in the next couple of weeks when

23:56

your legislative session is going on, and we

23:58

always appreciate you coming on the program. All

24:00

right, God speed, my man. Take care. Eight hundred

24:03

and nine for one, Shaan our number. If you want to be

24:05

a part of the program.

24:11

We're in. Fake news gives you lies.

24:14

Annity supplies the truth.

24:17

Sean Annity is on right

24:20

now. All

24:24

right, let's get to our busy phones. Many of you

24:26

been very patient. Here we have a liberal

24:28

from California, David

24:30

David. How are you glad you called? Why

24:33

do you think, David as a liberal

24:36

that for the first time in California history,

24:38

you are having a massive net

24:40

loss in terms of population.

24:42

In other words, for one hundred and seventy some odd

24:45

years, you know, the population of California

24:47

was writhing. Now you're losing close

24:50

to a thousand residents a day

24:52

moving out of the state. What do you think that is? Well,

24:55

as a native Los

24:57

Angeleino, I'm happy we could

24:59

use for your people. So

25:01

yeah, you want, well,

25:04

what are you going to do with the fact that now Gavin

25:06

Newsom, you're a wonderful governor, has accumulated

25:09

to what forty billion dollars budget

25:12

deficit. That means the ones that

25:14

remain like you, you're gonna have to end

25:16

up paying that. I'm pretty

25:18

sure it'll all work out in the

25:20

in the end. We've had big budget

25:22

deficits before. They

25:25

also have a big surplus right now at

25:27

the same time, so you know the no,

25:29

they don't. They don't have a surplus. They have a twenty

25:31

five billion dollar budget deficit that's expected

25:34

to go to forty or fifty billion by the end of the year.

25:37

Yeah, we've had them before, and that's

25:39

the way capitalism

25:42

works, boom and bust. But

25:45

I wanted to talk about how you

25:47

said we can't believe our

25:49

government, and as a liberal, I agree

25:52

with you. We cannot always agree

25:55

that we can't. Our government's gonna

25:57

lie to us sometimes. But my question is, would

26:00

you agree that sometimes

26:02

a government and regular people have

26:04

to lie, like like the they think they

26:06

have a good reason, like the government may have a

26:09

secret weapon or war plans

26:11

they don't know. I mean, I don't think we should reveal

26:13

our military secrets, right um.

26:16

I don't think we should reveal intelligence

26:18

that we gather on enemy countries,

26:20

right um. I think you know every government

26:22

has to have, you know, some secrecy

26:25

in that regard, of course, yes, And I myself

26:27

have lied when I felt there's a

26:29

good reason. No, you don't look fat in that

26:32

dress, and you Fox

26:34

News host, you knew that, by the

26:36

by the by the way, you know

26:38

you're not allowed to you. I didn't think

26:40

I thought the the F word that you

26:43

used anyway, I thought that word was banned.

26:45

I think you have to use the word chubby. Now you

26:48

knew the election wasn't stolen from

26:50

Trump, and you guys lied about it anyway

26:52

because you felt you had a good reason.

26:55

No, if you listen to what I

26:57

said on the air every day,

26:59

what did I talk about it? Let me remind

27:01

you. I talked about laws being

27:03

violated partisan observers. For example,

27:06

most states have laws that partisan

27:08

observers get to watch the vote count from start

27:10

to finish. In twenty

27:13

twenty, they were one

27:15

hundred feetback, they were a thousand

27:18

feetback. There was

27:20

no accommodation to

27:22

uphold the law that allows partisan

27:25

observers to observe. I

27:27

made the case about Pennsylvania's constitution

27:30

being violated because the Constitution

27:33

in Pennsylvania it specifies

27:35

in great detail all the

27:38

only people that can vote by mail. Now,

27:40

instead of going through the arduous process

27:42

of getting a constitutional amendment,

27:45

state legislators decided they

27:47

just would pass a law. Well, that's

27:49

not how you amend the constitution

27:52

by passing a law, so they went

27:54

the unconstitutional route. Now,

27:57

the you know a lot of courts didn't

27:59

want to take up these cases. But I'm just telling you

28:01

the truth. In the case of Wisconsin,

28:04

the Chief Justice of the Wisconsin

28:06

Supreme Court. That was a three to four case

28:08

that was lost on

28:10

the conservative side, but in excoriating

28:15

dissent that was laid

28:18

out by the chief Justice saying that the

28:20

rest of the justices, the four justices

28:22

on this court are ignoring

28:25

the laws of Wisconsin, and if they

28:27

continue to do so, this will

28:29

continue to happen. So I

28:31

focused on those things, and

28:34

I was very very specific.

28:36

You know, you're asking me whether or not I talked

28:38

about other topics. I did not. Those

28:41

were not arguments that were being made on

28:43

this show. No, I'm asking

28:46

you if you all knew that the election

28:48

wasn't stolen from Trump, and yet you

28:50

no, No, you're not listening to what I'm

28:53

saying. I said I had problems,

28:55

that there were integrity issues, and

28:58

I just spelled out with the integral the issues

29:00

were. You know, let me give you an example. The

29:03

Supreme Court made a decision in two thousand

29:05

Bush v. Gore that George W.

29:08

Bush, they stopped the counting five hundred

29:10

and thirty seven votes was the margin of victory,

29:12

and he became the president. Do

29:14

you think that number five hundred

29:16

and thirty seven Do you think

29:19

that number is absolutely,

29:21

positively beyond any shadow

29:23

of a doubt, the likely right

29:26

number of vote differences between Bush

29:28

and Gore. Absolutely not, because

29:30

I believe it was Time magazine and a

29:33

university or somebody finished

29:35

the vote unofficially a year

29:38

later and Al Gore actually

29:40

had more votes than George

29:42

W. Bush did. You can look that up. So

29:44

the other thing that I've brought up is

29:47

I know Democrats like whistleblowers.

29:49

There were thousands of people that signed affidavits

29:52

talking about voting irregularities,

29:55

and yet nobody wanted to pay any attention

29:57

to them. I would call them whistleblowers.

30:00

Yes, sir, those are the under the threat of perjury.

30:02

They signed affidavits and nobody paid

30:04

attend any attention to them. I think we should

30:06

have Yes, sir, every election

30:08

has voter eerie irregular

30:10

Sorry, I'm having no irregularities. You're right,

30:13

but I gotta go. I appreciate the call. Thank

30:15

you for being with us. Eight hundred nine

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four one shown. If you want to be a part of the program,