This week on The Second Chapter podcast, Kristin chats with psychologist turned artist, Valerie Ellis.
Valerie talks about finding your talent, why abstract art is more challenging than realism, and the steps she's taking to reach success in a new career after 35.
To see Valerie's work, visit her website here
Her first solo gallery show will be on display at the Espacio Gallery in London in early December and you can follow her on Instagram @very_valerie_ellis
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