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Hey there, listeners. If you need

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a new addition to your weekly true

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crime lineup, there is a podcast

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I want to tell you about called the

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Generation Y Podcast. One

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of the longest-running true crime podcasts

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out there. Generation Y

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digs into some of the craziest and most

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notable murders, crimes, and

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even some conspiracy theories. Every

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week, hosts Aaron and Justin

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sit down to discuss a new case or

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crazy occurrence, and they cover

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everything. From mysterious disappearances

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and shady murders, to the mysterious

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Skinwalker Ranch,

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and the mysterious Pizzagate scandal.

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Over at Generation Y, they

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cover every angle and every

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theory walking you through the forensic

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evidence, and sometimes they

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even interview those close to the

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case. In our recent episode,

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they cover the case of Thomas

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Dinn Bowman, the

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man arrested and charged for the murder

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of Yancey Knoll. But

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Dinn Bowman and Yancey Knoll were

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strangers, so investigators

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were tasked with figuring out

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why Dinn Bowman would murder a man

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he didn't know. I'm

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about to play a clip from the Generation

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Y Podcast. Follow Generation

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Y on the Wondery app or wherever you

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get your podcasts.

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[♪ Music intro ♪

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So Aaron, tonight's case, when I

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first heard about this, and I think

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you also, we

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thought it was a road rage incident.

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We thought it was a situation

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where two drivers get angry with each other,

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and one...

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pulls out a gun and ends the

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situation. But the

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more you learn about this case, the

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less it is about a road

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rage incident. What

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are we talking about tonight? Tonight we're

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talking about a 29-year-old

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named Thomas Den Bowman. We'll

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probably refer to him as Den Bowman

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throughout the episode.

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But on September 21st,

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he was arrested and charged with

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murder

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after he shot a man he didn't

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know named Yancey Noll.

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And that's what this episode is all about. We'll get into

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it. So this was August

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31st, 2012. So

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who are the two people involved with this? Yancey

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Noll had a fiancé

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named Jody Wertz. And he

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was described in the media as

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an outdoorsy guy who enjoyed fine

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wine. He also spent time

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volunteering for Habitat for Humanity.

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And one of his passions was teaching kids

2:56

how to rock climb. Ben

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was 29 years old. His

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mother was from Vietnam. And his

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dad worked as a Boeing engineer. Now

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he was kind of considered a genius.

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He was homeschooled after third grade. But

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he started college at age 12. And

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he was featured in a Seattle Times article

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in May of 1996. Now

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get this. When you talk about genius,

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he earned a BS in

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electrical engineering from the University of Washington.

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And when he was just 13, he was

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nationally ranked in fencing. And

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he even started an engineering

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company titled Vague

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Industries, which specialized in

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robotics. This is when he was still

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a young man.

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In his early 20s,

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he's acquitted of a burglary

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and a first degree theft. He had been

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accused of stealing ski equipment

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from a store in Seattle. This

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is weird because he's pretty

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well off. or at least he portrays

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himself as such. So yeah,

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and he's, I know he's acquitted

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of it, but what was he doing attempting

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to steal some ski equipment?

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Well, again, he was acquitted, Justin,

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right? But the fact that this is on his

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record, this isn't the person

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that you would expect to see that happen

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to, right? In 2007, though,

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he met a woman named Jennifer Palm. She

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was a dentist. They were at an education

4:28

seminar together, and they were married within

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a year.

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Yancey Knoll is 42 years old. He

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had just gotten off work.

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So Yancey's driving a red Subaru,

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and witnesses at 7.26 p.m.

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report gunshots. This

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is at the intersection of 15th Avenue,

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Ne, and Ne

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75th Street in Roosevelt, Seattle. So

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there were five shots fired. These

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two cars were sitting at an intersection,

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the red light, and then

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shots ring out.

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It's a 7.26 p.m. witnesses

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hear these gunshots. They

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say the shooter fired five times, and

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was just a few feet from other drivers

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in the intersection. Four of the shots

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hit Yancey. One of them

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actually traveled into a nearby

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house. Witnesses then saw

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a silver BMW convertible leaving

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the area at a high rate of speed. The

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BMW went through the red

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light

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into oncoming traffic, and was

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traveling so fast that his car actually

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caught air at the top of a hill.

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And he sped off through a residential

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neighborhood. Now, initially,

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people see this scene, Aaron, and they

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think possible road rage incident.

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They call 911, and the police

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show up, and they find Yancey Knoll

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bleeding to death inside of his car.

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He had four fatal gunshot

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wounds to his head.

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He still had his hands on the wheel.

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So this is not something that's going to be survivable.

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Now, there's a crazy story here

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that CBS was told by

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the woman who owned the house where that fifth

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bullet went into. And

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she said it sounded like a huge explosion.

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Now, apparently, after she heard the noise,

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she got up and went outside

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and she found the

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bullet. Apparently, when they checked

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her house out, the bullet had gone through her fence,

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through a window, through

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a lampshade, down a hallway, hit

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a picture, and then just dropped

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on the floor.

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Normally, it takes a lot more to recover

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a bullet from a crime scene. So this is very

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out of the ordinary and a huge stroke

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of luck for them. They can recognize it

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as a nine millimeter bullet.

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There were some witnesses who were in a car. The

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witnesses were Kevin Watts and Angelo

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Rama. Now, when these gunshots

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rang out, they saw this car

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peel off and speed away. And

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they noticed it went right through a red light.

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So they thought, maybe we should follow

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because this

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might be the person who fired

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their gun. So they chased

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after this car. But like

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we said, that BMW, it was

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traveling at a high rate of speed and they just couldn't

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keep up.

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And they didn't want to keep up through a residential

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neighborhood doing 80 miles per hour.

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So they backed off.

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So a couple of Seattle Police Department

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detectives were assigned to the case,

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Frank Clark and Dana Duffy.

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One of the first things they do, because they know

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the identity of the person who was shot, they

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check their background. They see, do

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they have a criminal record? What do we know about

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them? And as you

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always say right off the bat, no criminal

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record. They have no record of him

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doing anything. So he appears

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to be just a regular law abiding citizen.

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And later on, they're going to ask

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his friends and family if he had any enemies.

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And of course, they're going to say, no, everyone. he

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was a really nice guy. And so

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that's why they're going with this road

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rage battle, this road rage incident.

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But they even say he drove slowly,

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like he drove like a grandma. He was very

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careful with his driving. And

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he just was not aggressive

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in any way, whether it was behind the wheel or

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in person. He was very careful

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and very mindful when talking to others.

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Now, these detectives saw that Yancey's

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window was rolled down and

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they knew the driver had fired shots through

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the passenger window. So

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this seemed a little odd because

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they knew that the shooter's

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passenger side window would be broken,

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meaning whoever was in the BMW shot

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into Yancey, but they

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were like in the left lane and Yancey was in the

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right lane. So whoever the shooter was

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possibly shot through their own passenger window

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or could have damaged their own car during the

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shooting. And Rama noticed that he

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had really nice silver rims

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on this BMW, so not very conspicuous.

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So Kevin Watts, the other witness,

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he helps the police with a composite

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sketch and they find surveillance

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cameras all around the center section and

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they release photos and

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stills of this silver BMW

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that sped away.

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Now, there was a lot of cooperation from

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the public, hundreds of tips poured

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in. And it's no doubt

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as a result of the police asking for help,

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the sketch of the driver that was released

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through the media. But yeah, this all

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happens within two weeks. And

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then a big break happens. September

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14th, there was a woman who

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left an anonymous tip. She

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gave the police a name. The name was Din

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Bowman. That's D-I-N-H Bowman.

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And also provided an address which

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was less than 10 blocks from that

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crime scene. You

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can listen to Generate.

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