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including references to suicide
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and death. One
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of the strange things about the
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Brix story is the amount of
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heartache that it caused to so
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many different people. There
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were times where I thought there was some
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kind of Brix curse. I
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don't believe in the
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boogeyman and I don't believe in curses as
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a general matter. But there's
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something about Brix that's hard to
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explain other than hellfire
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and damnation. I
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also don't believe in the boogeyman
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or curses, but the number of
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Brix Brex execs, lawyers,
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expert witnesses, investigators,
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and even journalists who've worked on
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this story and had tragedy befall
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them during or shortly after is
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quite unbelievable. I
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can think of four people I personally
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know who either lost their
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lives or experienced some
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kind of unrelated tragedy following
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their involvement with Brex. Like
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the investors. We
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lost everything. My husband was sick
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for four years. We
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worked hard for our money. We
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probably would have had that extra money to
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pursue more medical help.
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There's stories all around here in Alberta and
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all around Canada of people taking their lives. They
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were just so confident that it wasn't a scam.
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This was their lottery ticket for life. The
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fallout from Brex ruined
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many lives and inflicted unprecedented
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damage on the mining industry
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and financial markets in both
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Indonesia and Canada. I'm
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Suzanne Wilton from the BBC World
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Service and CBC. This
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is the $6 billion dollar gold scam.
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A story about the lengths
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people will go to in pursuit
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of getting rich. This
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is episode seven. Blame.
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Graham Farquharson and Henrik
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Thallenhorst's devastating report hit
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Brex hard. John
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Felderhoff, Brex's chief geologist, was fired
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and the rest of the company
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execs quit. In
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May 1997, the Royal Canadian
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Mounted Police began their investigation
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into the scam. Brex
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sought back. Nevertheless,
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the investors would have their day
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in court with the
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last man standing, John
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Felderhoff. I
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knew that the case itself would
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have real risks attached. A
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national newspaper said that I had
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become a pariah by agreeing to
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represent John. After spending
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10 days in the Cayman
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Islands listening to Felderhoff tell his
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side of the story, Joe
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Groia, one of Canada's top
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securities litigation lawyers, decided to
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take on the case. I
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had a couple of what I thought to be non-serious
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death threats. The case centered
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around the shares that John Felderhoff sold
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in 1996 for $84 million. And
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whether or not he knew things
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about Brix at that time that
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he should have disclosed to the
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market. From his
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home in the tax haven of the
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Cayman Islands, Felderhoff put
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in a plea of not guilty
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to all eight charges.
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At that time, John Felderhoff didn't
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believe there had been a scam.
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There was an interview that was given where John
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talked about the possibility there could be
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as much as 80 million ounces. And
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that got picked up and got reported.
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But that was never in an official press release.
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It was said that he should have
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known that the numbers they were reporting
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were inaccurate. These
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results were provided to Felderhoff
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and Brix execs by Filipino
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geologists under the management of
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Michael De Guzman. The
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core samples would be sent for testing. They
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would get results and they would plug
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them into a computer program called data
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know, he might have been
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distracted by his vision
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for helping those people. I'll
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give him that potential,
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although I still think he knew. Chief
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Geologist is described
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by the guys on site as a seagull
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because he flies in, he
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shits and everybody then he flies out again. I
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know that because I was one once, not
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a seagull, I was a chief geologist. I
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suspect John didn't do quite enough shitting.
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Roger Marjorie Banks also has
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a theory. I think Fel
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the Help was honest, but
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I think he was blind to a huge
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scam going on behind his back, perhaps because
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of the size of it. Maybe
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the key to it, just the
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boldness, the sheer audacity of what was
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being done and the
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fact that people were a bit naive, a bit innocent
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and it slips through the neck. On July
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31st, 2007, six years after John
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Felderhoff's trial began,
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Judge Peter Rinn finally reached
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his own conclusion. On
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all charges, he found Felderhoff
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not guilty. It
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was devastating news for the people
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who'd lost their relatives, life
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savings and pensions in the Brix
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scam. The judge said,
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I'm satisfied on a balance
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of probabilities that Felderhoff has
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proven that he took all
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reasonable care. In
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other words, the judge was
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saying that John Felderhoff was oblivious
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to the salting scam that was
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being perpetrated. It was
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a triumph for his lawyer. but
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it went to the warehouse first, and
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I kind of think that's where they did the
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salting. In the
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previous episode, we heard how
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Freeport geologist Andrew Neil had
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spotted that the gold in
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the Brix samples must have
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come from a stream. This
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was something Dave Potter and
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Mansur Geiger were able to corroborate
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for me. There
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were local gold panners around. They
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bought a bit of gold and they
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worked out this very sophisticated system of
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salting what we
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call the salting of the core by adding
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gold into their drill core.
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They evidently bought alluvial
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gold, and the reason they did it like
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this, they bought alluvial gold from the rivers
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around the site where they were at because
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they wanted to make sure that the gold,
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you can type gold, it's kind of like
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a fingerprint, and they wanted
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to make sure that the gold that they typed was
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similar to the gold that was in that original
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deposit. Alluvial gold
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is the name for the type
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of gold found in flowing water.
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Although it would have some of
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the same properties or fingerprint as
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gold that might be found in
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Bousang, the scratch marks
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it gets from being dragged along
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the riverbed are also a
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giveaway that it couldn't have come
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from the ground. Suzanne
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Felderhoff had her own piece of the
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jigsaw involving
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Cesar Puspos, albeit
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it was an account someone else
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had given to her. There was
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this witness who saw Puspos tampering
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with these bags. He told
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me that, that he saw that.
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Well, he was there and they were
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working in the jungle, and at some
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point there's this river, I
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think on the boat, they put these bags and
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they're shipped off to the laboratory. in Samarinda
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and just halfway that river
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somewhere there was this shack
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and the witness saw that Puspos
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was sort of standing on his
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backs with something what he described
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as he had a pen in
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his hand and made these clicking movements and
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he saw that something was added to this
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max that's what I was told and
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he said what are you doing there and this
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person then was
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startled and stopped what he was doing.
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It's a rule in mining that
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at no point during a sample's
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chain of custody should a
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bag be opened or have anything
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added. While
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I was in Jakarta I met
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with Brix's former finance manager Bernard
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Leod. He says he
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also witnessed Cesar Puspos opening
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sample bags when he visited
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the drill corps at night.
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At the summer in the office I
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saw actually a bunch of bags
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containing samples and
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they took me to other store
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where they keep the drilling core.
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It's a big warehouse
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near the river. Were
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the bags open or closed?
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The sample bag. Oh I saw they are mixing
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blah blah blah you know organizing
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mixing the bag and blah blah blah in the
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night during the day. When
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asked by a journalist for the Wall Street
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Journal in May 1997, Cesar
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Puspos said the only reason he
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opened the bags was to check
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that none had been broken in
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transit. He also stated that
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he had no idea how the
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samples were spiked. Brown.
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