It's one of the most uncomfortable, challenging, and potentially inhibiting parts of life as a working artist: getting paid. To build a sustainable career, we have to balance our passion with our professionalism. But how does an artist put a price on their work, and what systemic obstacles stand between the artist and fair pay, or pay equity? Elsa Hiltner tackles these very questions with her thought-provoking essays and groundbreaking Designer Pay Transparency Resource. In this episode, Smartistry founder Melissa Peck interviews the Chicago costume designer, writer, and organizer about the power of transparency, and the opportunities for both artists and arts organizations to thrive by embracing pay and labor equity.  To learn more about Elsa's work, visit elsahiltner.com

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