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there, Dan here. Today's reheat is my conversation with Andy
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Richter. When I spoke with him back in 2017, he
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was best known as Conan O'Brien's late night
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sidekick. Now he hosts the podcast, The Three
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Questions, and he'll also be hosting a new
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show, The Andy Richter Call-In Show, on Sirius
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XM's Conan O'Brien Radio. The show premieres on
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Wednesday, June 26th. And
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before we get into this reheat, I do wanna give
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you a heads up that this episode contains discussion of
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dieting, weight loss, and body image. Now
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this past spring, Andy and I reunited in LA
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where he moderated my book tour event. If you
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wanna hear the best bits from that show and
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my other book tour events, we're releasing a two-part
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series from the book tour. First part's out now,
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second one comes out Monday, and there are a
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lot of hot takes about pasta, food, and so
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a note at hello at sporkful.com. Thanks.
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Did I read that you were the prom king? Yes,
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I was. My senior
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year, I was the prom king at Yorkville,
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of Yorkville High School. Did
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you get a crown? There was
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a crown that you don't get to keep. It looked
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like sort of a classic cartoon crown. It
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had fake white fur that I think is supposed
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to be ermine with jewels and
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then kind of tufted velvet around
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the top of it. on
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me, I could see from the inside that
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the base of it was actually
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a Ricotta cheese tub that they
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had probably gotten from the cafeteria.
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Wait, and did you say
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that you don't get to keep the crown? No,
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it's a prop that then they take from
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you. So this Ricotta cheese tub was passed
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down for generations. For all I know, it
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could still be going
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on the heads of prom kings
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today in Yorkville, Illinois.
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Did you buy Ricotta cheese? Do you
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think of that crown today? I rarely buy it
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in, because I mean this was probably like a
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gallon tub. I rarely buy
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it in such quantity, so I
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don't think so. This
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week on The Sporkful, I go out
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for brunch with Conan O'Brien's longtime sidekick,
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Andy Richter. How many of
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life's problems can be solved by a really nice
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refrigerator? Andy is trying to find out.
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Plus the conversation will get more serious. When
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we talk about Andy's lifelong struggles with his
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weight. You know, when you feel
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bad, eating something that
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tastes good feels like
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you're fighting and
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staving off the feeling bad. This
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is The Sporkful. It's not for foodies, it's
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for eaters. I'm Dan Paschman. Each week on
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our show, we obsess about food to learn
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more about people. Andy
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Richter is a comic, actor, and writer.
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He started several network sitcoms, and he
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just launched his own podcast earlier this
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month. It's called The
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Three Questions with Andy Richter. It's a
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conversation show where Andy asks each guest
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the same three questions. Where
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do you come from? Where are you going? And
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what have you learned? When Natasha
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Lyonne from Russian Doll came on the show,
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things got pretty personal. I
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have taken, though, lately to plucking
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because... Really? I'm 52 years old,
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and I... You know, like there's a difference
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between eyebrow hair and whiskers.
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getting f***ing whiskers growing
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out of thick, coarse, bore-bristle
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hairs growing out of my
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eyebrows. And then also too,
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just appearing in a couple
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of days, like a three-inch long whitey. Okay,
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upshot, however, pretty
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soon, eyes don't work as well.
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You think it's the right prescription. Right,
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exactly. But you don't know. Exactly. That's
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the life of a woman, you see. I know,
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I know. And especially your hair. Andy is
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best known as Conan O'Brien's longtime sidekick, and
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I have loved him on that show forever.
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His persona there alternates between dopey
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and darkly funny. You hear
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that dark humor in this comedy bit, where Andy
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recounts the titles of the 18 memoirs he
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claims to have written. Then we've
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got, Sidekick to the curb, the
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Andy Richter story. Good
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one, boss. My life is a
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TV toady. Fake
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laughter, real tears. Sidekick's journey. Okay, okay, Andy,
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I think we get the idea. There's
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11 more! Forcing
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the laugh, hiding the gym bottle. So
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that's Andy on Conan. But
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off the show, he's also thoughtful and smart. In
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fact, he holds the record for the highest
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one-day score on Celebrity Jeopardy, and he
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did very well in the food category.
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The name of this pasta says,
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this pasta, similar to Penne, means little
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mustaches. Andy? What
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is Mastacholi? Correct. Wolf
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it down for 2,000, please. Try some
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of the chicken cooked in this charcoal-fired
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oven that's used throughout India. Andy?
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What is a tandoor? Tandoor oven, yes. Andy
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and I met up at Patty's restaurant in Burbank.
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It's a classic LA diner. It's been around since
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1960. It
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was Andy's choice. We
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should order some food. Yes, we should. If we... If
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you get a... Yeah, yeah. Yes,
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we're ordering on mic here.
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Let's do it. Andy, lead the way. I'm
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gonna have a scramble with turkey
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meat, scallions and mushrooms. Sliced turkey?
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No, no, ground turkey, I'm sorry. Eggs
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cook soft, tomatoes instead of
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potatoes, and corn
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tortillas. Could I please have
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a mushroom omelet
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with American cheese? For the toast,
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could I please get an English muffin? And maybe,
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well, let's get a second toasted English muffin
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on the side, please. And it also comes with
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a side, you can do hash browns, home fries,
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fruit, or cottage cheese. Hash
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browns are home fries, that's a
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tough one. I will
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say hash browns, please. Okay,
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that's it. Yeah, thank you, thanks. Thank you for
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the coffee? Yes, please. I
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figured hash browns, higher surface area to
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volume ratio, more crisp. I get the
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hash browns and I say burn them. Yeah.
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And if you say well done, it's usually not well done
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enough for me. I was like, burn
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them, you know? That's funny, I got an email from
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a Sporkful listener who said he's having a real issue
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with his grandfather, because every time they go to a
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diner, his grandfather orders bacon and he always says, I
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want it crispy. But what he means
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by crispy is virtually
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burnt. Yeah, yeah. Like as stiff as bacon, as stiff
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as a board. So that you
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bite into it and it crumbles. Right. Which
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is beyond crisp. Yes. And
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so he always says crispy, and then it never comes
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out the way he wants it. He always has to
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send it back. It's complained, yeah. And it becomes, and
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it's this, and so he wrote, this guy wrote to
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me asking for advice on what
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were, what were. Burnt. That's
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what the grandfather said. That
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is in diner lexicon, because they won't
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burn it. So shout out to Matt
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in Portland, Oregon, who wrote in with
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that question. Andy Richter has
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addressed your issue, Matt, thank you. Order
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it burnt, Matt. I
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read that your mom was a kitchen cabinet
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designer. Yes. Did that affect
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your own thoughts about kitchen cabinets? Yes.
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Can you tell me about a few of the details that you think
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are crucial to making your kitchen. I
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will sometimes say, you
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know, I will express the regret that I
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feel for not having practiced healthier eating habits
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throughout my life. Like you said, you're trying
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to find a balance. You don't want to
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make things too heavy. You always have to,
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you're always searching the kind of perfect light
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touch, you
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know, because you want to tell your, you don't want to tell
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your kids, if you eat too
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much of that, you'll get fat and no one will
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want to love you, you know. But
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you do, so you want... Wait, hang on,
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let me make a note. Don't say that.
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Okay, guys. Has
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being a parent and having to steer
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your kids on some
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of these issues changed at all the way
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you feel about your grandmother letting
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you order that second Sunday? No,
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I was aware well before I had children that
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that was not such a great, that was not
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such a great MO. Right.
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But it hasn't given you any
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more like empathy
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for her. You know, when
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you love somebody a lot and you just want, like
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you get carried away with a moment and you just
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want them to have whatever they want. Yeah, but that's
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not what taking care of a child is. That's
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not, you know, you can't be all
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accelerator when you're taking care of a
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child. When
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you drive, you use accelerator and brake
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and when you're loving a child and raising
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a child and teaching a child how to
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be a good human being and
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a good citizen, you're going to use accelerator
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and brake. And
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there wasn't a lot of brakes, you
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know. There wasn't a lot of brakes. And
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when there were brakes, a lot of them were kind of like,
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you know, more Bible related. Which,
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you know, then you, that's
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a different podcast. Yeah, maybe
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in the sequel. I
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get the perspective of like, I'm an
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adult and you take responsibility. Yeah. You
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know, but also there's, you know, to some degree, you're
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