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Hi Tadering Talkers . It

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is the end of the third

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week of February and that

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means it's the

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third anniversary , the third

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birthday of Tadering

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Talk . The first episode went out on

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the 23rd of February 2001,

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. No 2021, . Jump

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back 20 years there . I can't

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believe it's been three years already . Thank

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you , I think , is what I

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want to say . It's

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been a hell of a journey . I

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sound like this sounds like it's

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like a farewell speech . It's not , trust

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me . There's loads

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of episodes in the pipe ready

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for edit , but I'm

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just very , very grateful that we've

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lasted this long and

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the podcast has been

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thriving . The

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downloads etc are

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all going back up again . Obviously had a little

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break between December and January

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with moving house and a lot

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of other things that have been going on

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in life , but back

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raring to go

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. I've had some fantastic

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conversations the last couple weeks

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with some people I

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can't wait for you to hear and

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just wanted to take a moment

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to reflect on on the last three

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years really , of the podcast

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. It's been quite

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a journey . You never know who's listening

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. I think that's the biggest lesson

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that I've learned so far you never

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know who's listening . I

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had a call from a

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really good friend of mine and client

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, jason Davis of Perlin

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Chance estate agents in

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Goldersgreen , and

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I had no idea that Jason

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listened to this and , jason

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, if you're listening to this , I

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want to say a massive thank you and also

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thank you for calling me that day . Jason

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mentioned that . So

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Jason worked for a larger estate

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agents for years

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. If you're ever looking to buy

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, sell , let property in

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Northwest London , he is the man

2:21

to go to and

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I've been meaning to get in touch

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with him just to catch up , see how he

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was doing , and I had no idea that

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he'd actually left the

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agency , that he'd been out for so

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long , and Jason

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explained that he was in the process

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of launching his own agency and

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he wanted to

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thank me because

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I think maybe one of the podcast

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episodes in particular there's

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something that I or my guests said

2:55

that sort of either

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motivated him or encouraged

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him . Speed limit camera head

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Sorry , I'm in the car Shut

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up . Siri Encouraged

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him to , just pushed him to

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take that step . I'm

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sure he'll correct me . I'm

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kind of trying to paraphrase him and

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not doing a very good job of it , but that

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really was such a big energy beast

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. When I get feedback , simon

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Chambers is another one who emails me

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to tell

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me when there's been an episode

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that's particularly struck a chord with him , or

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so there was one where we talked about Dormais

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fabrics and how amazing those are

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and he went to see his tailor he's

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based in in Canada and

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got him to make a suit for him using

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a Dormais fabric and he

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got in touch to say it's

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hopeful , I

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think , the best suit that he's ever had , like

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he absolutely loves the fabric , so and

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and he took precious

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time out to write and tell me that . So when

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I get feedback , it means so

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, so much , because you know , like

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I said a few minutes ago , you never know

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who's listening . It's something that I'm learning

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week by week . I'll get

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clients of mine who , in

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the middle of a fitting , while I'm measuring their

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inseam or something , will suddenly

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say oh , by the way , I listened to

4:22

an episode of your podcast the other week

4:24

and it was really helpful , and I shared it with some

4:27

of my staff members because I thought it'd really help

4:29

them , or I shared it with a relative

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or a friend who's going through some

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stuff , and

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that's what I'm trying to

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do . You know I love tailoring because

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I do love genuinely taking

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care of people , although I do moan about

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it . Sometimes it is a very

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stressful job and I

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think it's it's not even so much

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about the making the clothes . I

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think it's when you're dealing with , with people

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, when you're dealing with individuals

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, you you

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kind of almost act as um

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well , at

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an overall level , these , a

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lot of these clients , become friends , they

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become mentors , they

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become more than just a client and

5:15

sometimes

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it can get quite heavy because

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of that familiarity that you

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have with each other . You

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know a lot of my , my long-term clients

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are our appointments . You know we schedule half

5:29

an hour together and then the first

5:31

15 , 20 minutes

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are just spent catching up with each other

5:36

finding out about what's been going on in

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each other's lives . Obviously I've had a lot to

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moan about with . You know the house

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move and um generally

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being burnt out and tired

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all the time and you know , trying

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to juggle . There's a lot of other things

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going on personally that you know

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we're trying to sort of deal with and and

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sort of struggle through so

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, um , so yeah , and then you know

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your clients would be going through

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stuff as well and you know

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they I should be honored , I am

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honored that they feel enough

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trust with me to to share some

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of these deeply personal things , um

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, but I think the problem comes where

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? Because I'm quite empathic

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. So so when I see someone

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who is going through

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something whether it's

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joy or sadness or pain

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I I feel

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it , I I take that energy from

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them and I sort of absorb it

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myself . It's very hard to describe , and

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then I sort of feel what they're going through

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. That's why , when I'm walking down the road , I can't

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walk past someone who's sat on the pavement

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. In good conscience , I

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can't just just walk by and just

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not stop and ask them

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if there's anything I can do

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to help them . Um

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, so I

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think that's probably where the challenge

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in my job , where , where I sometimes do

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get a bit down , it's because sometimes you're

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, you know you're , you'll

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see , I know any of my clients

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that are listening . Please don't take this

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as a message to stop sharing stuff with

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me . No , please , far from

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it . Carry on , um

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. You know that's that's

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. You know my calling it's . I

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feel like it's my duty to be there as

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a , as a , as

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a sounding board for you , as a , as an

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ear to talk to , with

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shoulder , to not cry

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on . None of you have cried in front of me yet , but I'm

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sure that will come at some point . Um

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, but yeah , I think that's what does make

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make some days quite tough . So when I'm moaning

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about it , I'm not really moaning about

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, I guess , my job or even

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really my clients per se . I'm probably

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actually moaning up my own inability

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to , um , you

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know to , to sort of listen and support

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people but then not sort of

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carry it with me afterwards . Um

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, it's , uh , yeah

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, very , very hard thing for me to do

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and I don't know why I got into all of that

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just now . I think partly it

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has been a bit of a funny , funny

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couple of days

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really . Um , so

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I wanted to also just take this opportunity

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to speaking about , you

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know , people struggling and so on to

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pay tribute to a dear client

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of mine , robin Windsor

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. Now , that name will

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mean something to some of you and it will mean nothing

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to probably a

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lot of you . I really need to turn these alerts

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off , because it is is really like messing

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up my chi and I'm just about to go down Holloway

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road and there's a speed camera every five

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meters here . So

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, um , so , yeah , so , robin

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, robin Windsor's name will mean something to

8:54

some of you and it will mean nothing to to

8:56

some of you . Um , robin

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was a dancer and

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a celebrity . Uh , he

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was part of , I

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think , the original um

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troop of strictly

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come dancing uh dances

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when that show was relaunched 15

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, 20 years ago . Um

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, and

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he found

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me via social media and

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I think it was Twitter . He

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he put out a tweet for

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a

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hookup , um

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, because he was

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after a green velvet jacket

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, and I

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saw the tweet because I

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follow a lot of the strictly dancers

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on there , and

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I just messaged

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him back and I said I'm your guy and

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I think the trick with social media

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and and when you're interacting

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with or trying to interact with people who

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who have a bit more public

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presence , is

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if you get in there early , they're more likely

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to see you . And Robin saw

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me and he got

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in touch . Um , I think

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we had a few dms over Twitter

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and then we swapped numbers and we

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got together and

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I got to measure him and I made him

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this beautiful deep

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green velvet jacket , you

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know , in a dinner jacket style , with a

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shoulder pearl , and

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we also I made a dinner seat for him and I

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made some other things for him over

10:44

over the years and

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he absolutely loved

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the stuff that I did for him . I mean that

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that green velvet jacket . You

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know , I'd sometimes get text messages from

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him , um , saying

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he wore it on a

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tour or uh to an event

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, and everybody was talking about it

11:06

. And

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some of you might have picked up that I'm um talking

11:12

very much in the past tense , because I

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was sat on the tube on the way home yesterday

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and anyone who uses

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the London Underground will know that you

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get copies of the metro newspaper just

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discarded all over the place and

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I

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saw a

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headline and

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I saw Robin's

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face and

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he

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was found dead in a London

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hotel room on

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, I think , on Tuesday

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night . It's Thursday today and

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he's gone . He's

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gone now

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. I've been doing this for

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21

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years now and

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in that time I can name the

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clients that I've

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lost , that have died while

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I've been in service of them . I think

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it's probably the best way to

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describe it Keith

12:35

Clarkson at CB , richard Ellis , alan

12:38

Thompson , chantu

12:40

Velokot big Chelsea fan

12:42

Alan I never

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held it against him and

12:49

Robin , so this

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one was . I

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mean , they're all hard , but this one was particularly

13:00

quite tough and I started tearing

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up on

13:04

the train and

13:06

on the walk home I just burst into tears

13:08

. I mean , you know , I don't

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know , it's so weird . I'm not very good with

13:13

death and all of that sort of stuff , but

13:18

I

13:20

looked at the headline . There's

13:23

weirdly mobile reception

13:25

on a lot of the northern line now . So

13:28

I was able to go to my Apple

13:30

news app and kind

13:33

of kind of see what was going on and and

13:35

he was in the top five headlines and

13:38

I then

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weirdly went to text

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him and

13:47

I saw the last message from him

13:49

, which was I'd sent

13:51

him a message letting

13:54

him know that I was thinking about him . And

13:57

he messaged back and he said that

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was so , so funny that you messaged because

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I was at an

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event wearing your jacket and

14:06

everyone was complimenting

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it . And

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I didn't reply back to that message the other

14:16

day because

14:18

I , you know , I get so many messages sometimes I'd

14:21

, you know , just drop the ball

14:23

. And

14:26

I just sat there and I started tapping a

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reply to him . But

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he's

14:32

gone . He

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, he

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was an amazing athlete . It was an amazing

14:42

dancer . He

14:45

did strictly for a

14:48

few years and was

14:51

unceremoniously dumped

14:54

by the BBC . I

14:56

know that they've paid tribute and so

14:59

on , but there was some stuff going on there

15:01

that I don't know exactly

15:03

what happened . I'm not going to speculate

15:05

, but I know from speaking to

15:08

Robin about it that he

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was very , very upset and

15:14

you know there was something

15:16

that wasn't quite right there in the background

15:18

and I

15:22

got the sense that he was struggling

15:24

with depression

15:28

, anxiety

15:30

. I mean , at the end of the

15:32

day , when you think about it

15:34

, performers are , for one of

15:36

a better word , their freelancers

15:38

, their self-starters , they are

15:41

creators , they're they

15:43

fit into the category of the , the very people

15:45

that I love talking to on

15:47

on this show , and

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they don't earn a living if they're not getting

15:52

employed . So

15:56

that was really , really hard for him . And reading

15:58

the news reports and you know tributes

16:00

from close friends of his , like

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Christina Rianoff , great

16:04

friend of his , and they were professional dance

16:06

partners for years it's

16:11

it's obvious that he was really really

16:13

struggling . I remember bumping

16:16

into him randomly outside

16:19

Gatwick airport and

16:23

we got , we got talking . I introduced

16:25

him to my wife and you know

16:28

he

16:30

always had time

16:33

for people . This

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was also exemplified in the fact that when

16:38

he wasn't working and he wasn't employed

16:41

, he , you know , started up dance classes

16:43

for people locally . You

16:45

could go and be taught by him . He

16:49

was so giving of his art , he he

16:51

really really wanted as

16:54

many people that were in his

16:56

sphere as possible to experience

16:58

the joy of his art

17:00

of dance . And

17:03

he

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was on . He was on a cruise

17:12

ship , I think he was . He was

17:14

performing . Last week he

17:16

was down in South Africa or I

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don't know . I haven't read the news reports properly because

17:21

it's been quite , quite

17:24

upsetting , but

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he was photographed a few days

17:29

ago in in

17:33

the jacket , in the outfit that I

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made him . He loved

17:37

that jacket . He really , really , really did

17:39

. He

17:41

really did . I'm so proud

17:43

of of that piece of work and I'm so

17:45

glad that it brought him so

17:48

much joy . But

17:53

it also I don't know it . It

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it's just so weird . I can't explain

17:57

it and I'm , you

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know , if , if he's listening , if , robin

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, if you're listening , thank

18:07

you for giving

18:10

me the chance to not just work with you

18:12

but to be

18:14

a friend , and

18:17

it

18:19

was an honor and a privilege and

18:22

I'm so glad that I made you

18:24

close . That just made

18:29

you , at least for the times that you're

18:31

wearing them , just feel great

18:34

, feel better about yourself

18:37

. Everyone around you was

18:41

able to to lift you up

18:43

, um

18:48

, yeah , so there

18:50

we go , robin Windsor . Ladies and gentlemen , if

18:52

you don't know who he is , look him up , um

18:55

, google him , have

18:58

a look at some of his dance

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videos . He was such a talent

19:02

and he was so young he was only 44 . I

19:04

mean , really , what ? What a waste

19:07

. Sometimes I don't understand

19:10

the way

19:12

that the universe works . Um

19:15

, my

19:18

mum always used to say god wants the , the

19:21

good ones , he

19:23

doesn't want the bad ones . So that's why the

19:25

bad ones live longer . Not

19:27

, not sure that's an absolute

19:29

science , but um

19:31

, um , sometimes

19:34

it feels like there's a there's , there's

19:36

some truth in that . So

19:38

there we go . Um , so

19:42

, yeah , I

19:44

just wanted to say a few words about Robin , because

19:46

I can't . I'm not very , very good

19:48

at talking to people , so right now I'm just in my car

19:50

and I'm talking to you lot , but

19:53

I'm talking to my iPad because obviously

19:55

you're all not physically crammed into my mini

19:57

. The most people I managed to get into mini was six

20:00

plus me when I was at college

20:02

and that was one of the old minis

20:04

. It was an Austin mini , mayfair 1986

20:06

plate Six

20:09

girls . I got in there . That's how we used to roll

20:11

in in Croydon . They

20:15

all wanted a lift and

20:18

I didn't have the heart to say

20:20

no to any of them , and so I said

20:22

if we can fit you all in , then we'll

20:24

give it a go and that's what we did . Anyway

20:27

, sorry , that was a bit random , I

20:30

am going to . So the

20:32

YouTube channel is now also starting

20:34

to slowly grow back

20:37

up again . We've

20:39

. Thank you to those of you that

20:41

have actually embraced listening to the podcast

20:43

on the YouTube channel . That's much appreciated

20:46

. I had no idea it was a thing that

20:48

people listen to audio

20:50

videos like no video , just

20:52

audio on YouTube Amazing

20:55

. But I guess it's

20:57

quite handy if you've got your laptop there and you're

20:59

doing stuff in the kitchen or whatever and you

21:02

just just press play on something . You

21:04

don't need to look at the screen , you just let it run . So

21:09

thank you for that . And then we are

21:11

going to be creating more content and so on . I'm trying

21:13

to get the podcast straight

21:15

video studio set up at home

21:17

. I think I might

21:19

just have to get on with it and just film

21:21

around the house and

21:24

obviously still film in the workroom when I

21:26

can . Just

21:29

to you know , there's so many little videos

21:31

that I want to produce for all of you

21:33

, just to teach you

21:35

stuff . Go through , you know , fashion

21:38

history Going back to Robin . So that was that

21:40

. That was also the point I wanted to make about the podcast

21:43

, because a lot of people say you know

21:45

why ? Why do you do it ? You don't even talk

21:47

about tailoring most of the time and

21:50

I try to explain to

21:52

them that you know , I help people

21:55

feel more confident and so on

21:57

through the clothing

21:59

that I create for them when

22:01

I can pronounce the word . And

22:06

the podcast allows me to not

22:08

just stop there . The

22:11

conversations that I do have with some clients

22:13

when they're going through tough times , and I

22:15

hope that I'm able to give them a little bit of help

22:18

and comfort

22:20

. The podcast is kind of my

22:22

way of carrying on doing that , but hopefully

22:24

to a wider audience . And you

22:27

know I remember Jason

22:31

Yang , who was a guest very early

22:33

on in tailoring talk . He

22:36

said to me something very , very

22:39

important because when I first started , you

22:41

know you put an episode out and

22:43

then you're looking at the download numbers and

22:45

you're looking to see if anyone reviews you

22:47

and

22:49

you get obsessed with

22:51

it and if nothing's happening or

22:53

you're not getting much traction , you

22:56

start worrying . And he

22:58

said something really , really important to me . He told

23:00

me to ignore all of those

23:02

metrics and

23:04

to basically just focus on

23:06

this , and it is that if

23:10

what , if your conversations , if

23:13

what you put out there , if each episode

23:15

only helps one person in

23:18

some way , shape or form , it'll

23:21

have been worth it . And I

23:23

think for content creators these days whether

23:25

they're podcasters , youtubers , they're on Instagram

23:27

, whatever I think that's really , really

23:30

important . You've got to come from a place when

23:32

you post something of trying to help or inspire people

23:35

, and

23:38

that's why I don't do the sort of fancy

23:41

luxury clothing , lifestyle

23:44

videos . I

23:47

mean there are some fantastic creators out

23:49

there . You know off the top of my head , I think of

23:54

what my boyfriend wore on Instagram

23:56

. I mean that guy is fantastic South African

23:58

guy shows

24:01

you different outfit combinations and

24:03

so on . But you

24:05

know , in reality , although guys

24:07

will be inspired

24:10

to dress like that , maybe

24:13

who really

24:15

does ? So

24:18

I try to come at things from a bit more

24:20

practical

24:22

point of view Because

24:26

at the end of the day , although I'm in

24:28

that world , I'm not of that world

24:31

, and I

24:34

guess the people that I try to talk to more

24:36

or less the brand

24:38

I

24:41

was going to use a really derogatory word there

24:43

brand

24:46

, brand fans , I'll

24:48

say so people

24:51

that have to have the really expensive

24:53

labels . You

24:56

know they'd still go and spend

24:58

five or six grand

25:00

on a suit and Saval Rowe

25:03

or you know , buy

25:05

a particular brand label , then

25:10

you know , like Armani or whatever

25:12

, then actually save

25:14

money or spend the same with someone

25:16

who could actually make something for them that actually

25:19

fits them better and is better quality

25:21

. So

25:26

I'm trying to talk to . I'm

25:31

trying to talk to people that are

25:33

coming from a more place of

25:35

normality and are trying

25:38

to enhance themselves and

25:40

do it in a way that you know , whether

25:42

they use someone like me or

25:44

they can't afford to and they need

25:47

to maybe go cheaper off

25:49

the peg and then have an alterations tailor

25:51

, make little tweaks to make things fit better

25:53

. But I'm trying to come

25:56

at it from a more practical point of view and

25:58

that can be a challenge because , you know , often

26:00

you know you get mental blocks and you

26:02

can't think of what to post and

26:04

so on . And I think that's why sometimes

26:07

you know you'll see me go for a frenzy of

26:09

posting stuff and then

26:11

you'll not hear from me for a while

26:13

, and it's because I've got a

26:15

mental block and I'm you know the

26:17

ideas I'm coming up with . I'm thinking who's this

26:19

really going to help ? You

26:24

know , my philosophy is fast becoming

26:27

my

26:29

God . Islington Council drivers are the worst

26:31

. My philosophy

26:34

is fast becoming if

26:36

what I'm about to create or post is

26:39

not practically going to help someone or

26:42

inspire them or educate them in some

26:44

way , then I'm not going to do

26:46

it . What's the point ? It's a waste of your

26:48

time , it's a waste of money

26:51

and

26:53

I think I'm okay with that . You

26:56

know , I'm starting to feel less guilty

26:58

when I go a couple weeks

27:00

without posting a video or

27:04

a podcast episode . There's

27:06

less excuse with the podcast , to be honest with

27:08

you . So I do block recordings every

27:10

week with a bunch of guests , so

27:13

there's always something to go out

27:15

. And then you know , I've been

27:17

promising and all threatening you for so

27:19

long to do these solo episodes more regularly

27:22

and that hasn't happened

27:24

. And maybe I

27:26

should just do them in the car . So whenever I'm driving

27:29

, I should just , you know , pretend

27:31

that all of you somehow are magically

27:33

crammed in to my car , this

27:35

over mini , and we're all

27:38

just having a good old chat together , which

27:40

is kind of quite nice . So

27:43

so

27:46

, yeah , content creation

27:48

. There you go . There's

27:51

been a lot going on in the wider

27:53

world lately in terms

27:55

of fashion , so we've had the Emmys

27:58

and the Baftas

28:00

. I really

28:02

, really want to do videos where

28:04

I show the

28:07

red carpet and you know the photos

28:09

of the celebrities photographed on a red

28:11

carpet and then do a little commentary on what they're

28:13

wearing , because

28:16

you know there are some fantastic

28:18

inspired outfits out

28:20

there and then there are also

28:22

some

28:25

really weird stuff that

28:29

even I can't comprehend what the designer

28:31

was thinking when they came up with it . But I'm

28:35

just trying to figure that out at the moment

28:37

because there are some issues over

28:40

copyrighted laws and that sort of thing

28:42

. You can't just go and grab

28:44

someone's photograph

28:47

of a celebrity from the internet or

28:49

from a news page and then use it in a

28:51

video or whatever . So we're

28:53

just looking into , you know , all

28:55

of that copyright nonsense and

28:58

trying to work out how we deal

29:00

with it or work out a way around it so

29:03

that we can then start putting out content

29:05

like that , because I think that'd be quite fun . And

29:11

we also

29:13

had London Fashion Week , which completely passed

29:15

me by . This is

29:17

what happens when you're , when

29:20

you're a business owner and

29:22

you basically focus

29:24

your entire working

29:27

time , dedicate your entire

29:30

working hours to

29:32

your clients . I

29:34

don't really think about anything else outside

29:37

of that , but it has . We have had London

29:39

Fashion Week and

29:42

I've been browsing through some

29:44

quite interesting articles , because

29:47

a lot goes on during fashion weeks

29:49

, but really what I try

29:51

to work out is

29:53

where is the general trend going

29:56

? Where is the fashion industry

29:58

trying to push us next ? I'm

30:01

not so much . I think

30:03

you know great tailors aren't so

30:05

much in the business of fashion . I'm not calling myself

30:07

a great tailor . I leave

30:10

it for my clients to decide

30:13

where I am on that scale

30:15

. But generally speaking

30:17

, I think great tailors are more concerned

30:20

with the person that they have in front of them

30:22

and creating clothing that is in line

30:24

with either who that person

30:26

is or who that person wants

30:28

to be , if they're not yet

30:31

where they

30:33

want to be or they're not

30:35

yet the person they are . And

30:39

so you know , I've said to a lot of my clients

30:41

and some of you listening to this will remember these

30:43

conversations where I've said you know

30:45

. You've said you know what's fashionable at the

30:47

moment ? And I've said listen , you

30:49

can be inspired by fashion

30:51

, but you should never be dictated by fashion

30:53

, because when we're making clothes for

30:55

you , when I'm making clothes for you , I

30:58

still want you to be able to go

31:00

to the wardrobe in 10-20 years time and

31:02

pull out a suit or a jacket

31:04

and and not

31:07

say to yourself , oh my god , that's , that's

31:09

you know in in relation

31:11

to what fashion is doing now . This is hideous

31:13

. I can't wear that and put it back

31:15

in the wardrobe and wait for fashion

31:18

to cycle around again and make

31:20

you feel that it's acceptable to wear that

31:22

thing . And

31:25

what I mean by by you can be inspired

31:27

by fashion is at the moment , you know , I'm doing

31:29

a lot more where we've been through a long period

31:31

of skinny trousers

31:33

and tight fitting jackets

31:36

and narrow notched lapels

31:39

. Things are starting to relax and go

31:41

back out the other way , and so now we're

31:43

, we're making lapels wider

31:46

again . We are almost going back towards

31:48

the 1990s , but I'm

31:50

trying to do it for people in a

31:52

way where I'm twisting what

31:56

I'm doing for them rather than rewriting

31:58

the rule book in terms of design . Obviously

32:02

, we do have clients that say , you

32:05

know , they want something that is of the present

32:07

, because fashion does go

32:09

in , cycles . Things , you know , do go

32:11

in and out of fashion and it all cycles backgrounds

32:13

. But

32:16

but yeah , we

32:18

, you know , we buy in large for stuff that

32:20

people are going to be using regularly

32:22

. You

32:24

, you don't really want to be walking

32:29

on the line of fashion . You know you

32:31

want to be sort of skipping around it , so

32:34

so , yeah . So so , going

32:36

back to content creation for for you

32:38

lot and for our

32:41

little growing gaggle

32:43

of supporters on YouTube and other places

32:45

, you know

32:47

, I definitely , going forward , want

32:49

to do , do more talking about stuff

32:51

from from what's going on

32:53

in my industry , and talking about what's

32:56

going on in my industry right now . It's the

32:58

end of February almost and

33:00

we're heading towards spring summer even though

33:02

here in London it doesn't feel like it got

33:04

the amount of rain we've had in the last few

33:06

days and

33:11

so we're getting so

33:13

many new fabric collections coming through

33:15

now for spring summer . I'm

33:19

trying to take some of those

33:21

, those books , home , the more interesting

33:23

ones . So there's a new collection

33:25

from Dormake called Dormake naturals

33:28

, I think it is , and I've got . I've left that

33:30

book on my desk because

33:33

I want to do a little . You know that how the youtubers

33:36

do their unboxing videos and reviews

33:38

, where they sort of have a top-down

33:40

camera view on it on the table and

33:43

then they're showing you the product and , you

33:45

know , reviewing it . I'd

33:48

like to start doing that with fabrics . If

33:50

any of you are listening to this . Drop me an email

33:52

at Taylor in talk podcast at gmailcom

33:54

, and let me know if it's something

33:57

that you'd like to see . And

34:00

, speaking of what you'd like to see

34:02

, do me a huge

34:04

favor . Please go to YouTube

34:06

. If you're not already subscribed

34:09

to the channel , look

34:11

for Roberto Reveille in London

34:13

and when you find my

34:15

channel which should be pretty easy

34:17

, if you don't

34:20

mind , hitting the subscribe button , that would be

34:22

so amazing . I'm trying

34:24

to get to 500 followers by subscribers

34:27

by the end of March , so

34:30

so that's only five weeks away . We're at about

34:32

282 at the moment . So

34:36

, yes , if we can , if we can pick up 10-15

34:38

new subscribers a week on the YouTube channel

34:41

, that would be absolutely amazing . The

34:43

podcast goes out there as well , so

34:45

so it would give you another , another

34:49

outlet to

34:52

get me and my guests into your log holes

34:54

. That's not

34:56

Apple podcasts or Google podcasts

34:58

or Spotify or whatever you listen to the show

35:00

on . And

35:03

speaking of subscribing with the podcast

35:05

itself , if you don't mind , if

35:07

you don't mind going into Apple

35:10

podcasts or Spotify

35:13

, I'm not sure you can leave reviews on

35:15

other platforms , but if

35:17

the app that you use

35:19

to listen to this podcast allows

35:21

, please , please

35:23

, hit the , hit the stars and

35:26

give me a rating and , if you

35:28

can spare 10 seconds , please

35:30

, please , give me a review . Google

35:34

, or whoever the gods of podcasting

35:37

algorithms are they've changed everything

35:39

recently and now

35:41

shows are getting recommended

35:44

based on new reviews , so

35:47

the shows that get fresh , new

35:49

reviews consistently

35:51

are the ones that the platforms are

35:53

pushing and showing

35:55

to people . As you might be interested

35:57

in this show or this episode , we

36:01

have got the ability with

36:03

the conversations we have , and then we just

36:05

had recent conversations with Nick Hutchison

36:07

of Book Thinkers amazing

36:09

young man , I absolutely had

36:11

such a blast with him and

36:14

he connects authors and publishers

36:16

together and he also inspires

36:19

people to

36:21

read not just buy books

36:23

and leave them sitting on a shelf , but actually to read

36:26

, be inspired and take action

36:28

from the things that you learn from your books . We

36:30

spoke to Daniel Packard . That was the most recent

36:33

episode before this one about

36:35

anxiety . Daniel is an

36:37

engineer by trade , suffered

36:41

a lot of trauma

36:43

and anxiety in his own life and

36:46

went to get help and no

36:49

one could help him , and then , inspired

36:51

by his father , who

36:55

always told him , if something isn't working , then you

36:57

know , make something better , he

37:00

put his engineering expertise

37:02

to use and found a way

37:04

to help

37:07

people to get rid of anxiety

37:10

. You

37:13

know we've had so many and there are

37:15

so many conversations coming up

37:17

that can help people with certain

37:21

things that they might be going through in their lives

37:23

. I don't think it matters how

37:25

successful you are . I

37:28

think there is a lot of posturing in the world

37:30

. A lot of people are going

37:32

through stuff and

37:37

a lot of those

37:39

same people hide it . We

37:41

all have to put a front on and

37:43

show ourselves to the world on LinkedIn

37:46

, on Instagram , on Twitter , on

37:48

, you know , all other platforms

37:51

. In real life , when we see people how

37:53

are you ? How often do

37:55

you hear someone saying I'm not good

37:57

, how

37:59

are you ? I'm not good , I'm

38:02

really not good at the moment . It's

38:06

you know . I think the problem is twofold

38:09

. It's , firstly , the person who has

38:11

been asked a question For

38:14

them . If they say I'm not good , I'm not

38:16

in a good place right now , I'm not happy

38:18

, I've got things going on

38:20

my mind's all over the place , I'm

38:22

stressed out , we've

38:24

had some bad news at home . I'm

38:27

not coping very well . I

38:29

wish we could have put this meeting off . I

38:32

don't want to be here today . I

38:34

just want to let you know that up front , so

38:38

please forgive me if I'm not feeling myself . People

38:42

can't say those things because they're

38:44

worried about how the other person's going to react , how

38:47

the other person's going to see them , that the other person is

38:49

not going to have any sympathy

38:51

for them and is going to take

38:53

offence and they're going to look weak

38:56

or unprofessional

38:58

. What we don't realise

39:00

is that we're all humans . We're

39:03

all humans . We all have

39:05

thoughts and feelings . We

39:07

hurt , we feel pain , and

39:12

I think it doesn't matter what scale of

39:14

the definition of success you're on . Whatever

39:17

your definition is differs for

39:19

everybody . My

39:22

best friend will attest to that

39:24

. I laugh there because my

39:26

best friend , he and I can be any more different

39:28

, but we are . He's like a brother

39:30

to me and I love him so much , but

39:32

we are definitely sort of different

39:35

planets colliding . Yeah , so

39:42

it is twofold . It's the person

39:44

that's going through stuff that doesn't want to externalise

39:47

it , and then

39:49

it's everybody else that

39:52

doesn't appreciate that people could be going through

39:54

things , doesn't see a colleague

39:57

or someone that serves them

39:59

, or someone that they serve as being someone

40:02

who is flesh and

40:04

blood and has thoughts and feelings

40:07

and has a half and might be

40:09

going through stuff , and

40:11

so you know . That's why

40:13

you know where I think to myself

40:15

should I take this guest on ? Should I interview this guest

40:17

? I'm really

40:20

conscious that I want a

40:22

podcast that also does talk about

40:24

menswear and tailoring and styling and so

40:26

on not just menswear ladies wear as well . But

40:31

then , at the same time , I think to myself if I have

40:33

this guest on and we can help

40:36

one person with that conversation one person

40:38

hears it that's going through something , that's struggling

40:40

with , something like like Robin was If

40:48

it helped that person , if it pulled that person

40:50

back from the brink , if it inspired that person

40:53

to

40:56

better themselves , if

40:58

it inspired that person to change

41:00

their behaviour , to want

41:04

to be better , to know that

41:07

there was a way out of whatever

41:09

it was that they were struggling with

41:11

, that they were going through , to know that

41:13

when you go through periods

41:15

of pain , trauma , that

41:18

is not forever , to

41:21

know that you can . You can

41:23

write your own story . That

41:31

brings me back to reviews and discoverability

41:33

and so on . I don't care

41:35

. I don't

41:38

care about becoming celebrity content

41:40

creator or podcast or monetization

41:44

or whatever . I just want to reach

41:46

more people who

41:48

need to

41:51

hear these conversations

41:53

and

41:55

that's the reason why I ask if

41:58

you're listening to this . Still , well done for

42:00

staying with me for this long . This

42:02

is the longest solo episode I've ever done , so I

42:04

should definitely please give

42:06

me your feedback . I reckon I should just

42:09

like do them in the car

42:11

, and I'm almost

42:13

at the where I'm , so I've got to go now . You'll be relieved to know

42:16

. But if you are listening to this , if you haven't

42:18

reviewed us , please

42:20

go to your

42:23

listening app and

42:25

if there is the ability to leave a rating

42:27

and review , please , please

42:29

, do so and just help . Help

42:32

us to help more people . Help

42:34

yourself to

42:36

help more people by helping us

42:38

help more people . There you go . I

42:41

won't give you any more iterations of that . Right

42:44

, I need to find parking now in central

42:47

London , tottenham Court Road , so

42:50

I'm going to love you and leave you . Thank

42:54

you so so much for your support , every

42:56

single one of you over the last three years . Thank you

42:58

to everyone who gives me feedback

43:00

, people who take time to

43:02

get in touch and

43:05

tell me what

43:08

they think has been great , what's helped

43:10

them , what they would

43:12

like to see . Just

43:15

thank you , thank you . Thank you so much to everyone

43:17

everyone of you that supports the show

43:20

and supports what I do , and all my customers

43:22

for your support of our little business

43:24

, for

43:27

those of you on Instagram that support the

43:29

little reels that I do , and so on . I just

43:31

I'm very , very grateful to each and every one

43:33

of you . So thank you . We

43:37

I'm going to try and put the Bondathon episode

43:39

out next . We reviewed

43:41

Tomorrow Never Dies , and that was an absolute cracker

43:44

of a show , so I

43:47

will endeavour to get that

43:49

edited and out for you as

43:51

soon as I can . In

43:54

the meantime , stay safe , look after

43:56

each other , keep

43:58

sharing these conversations and keep

44:01

checking in on people

44:03

that are nearest and dearest to you , both at

44:05

home , at school

44:07

, at university , at work , wherever

44:09

you , wherever you are every day . Keep checking

44:12

on the people around you . Stay

44:14

safe , be good , take care of each other , and

44:18

I will see you on the next one .