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Thu 27 Jun, 2024: Tore Hosts The LIVE Unnecessary Presidential Debate

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Thu 27 Jun, 2024: Tore Hosts The LIVE Unnecessary Presidential Debate

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0:00

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0:14

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0:17

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0:19

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0:21

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today at cosi.org. All

1:50

right guys, welcome. I guess we have

1:52

like a pre-show. I've got my little

1:55

buddy here with

1:57

me. That's little

1:59

Biscuit. And

2:01

I am trying to fix this stuck

2:04

screen. So we're

2:07

waiting for this to come on. So I

2:10

thought maybe we could just get a reminder, you know,

2:14

some stuff I put on Twitter a

2:17

little while back. So I played

2:19

this a few years ago. I think

2:21

I'll play it every now and then, right? I think

2:24

it's important you see it. It

2:26

could keep you safe. It could keep you

2:28

from getting shot. It could keep you alive,

2:30

a mask good. People

2:37

are amazed that there

2:39

was a job title called Chief of

2:42

Disguise. And most women I

2:44

know wish they'd had that job. Sounded

2:47

like fun. Actually, it was fun. I

2:49

don't think another intelligence agency in the world

2:52

devoted the time and

2:54

the budget to disguise like we

2:56

did. Disguise became

2:58

a form of body armor. In the

3:00

spy museum we called the mask Five Second Mask. They

3:04

proved invaluable. You could

3:06

change your ethnicity. You could change your gender.

3:09

You could change your nationality. And

3:11

if you needed to, you could actually become

3:13

another person. When I was Chief of

3:15

Disguise, we had already begun using

3:18

Hollywood stunt double masks. That

3:21

was a technology that came straight out of L.A. with

3:24

men named John Chambers who had done

3:26

all the makeup for Planet of the

3:28

Apes. He has a definite gift for

3:30

mimicry. They could spend five

3:32

hours putting on a mask. They could spend an hour

3:34

taking it off. And they could shoot

3:37

it again and again and again until they got the

3:39

lights just right. Our

3:41

mask had to

3:43

be perfect in the car.

3:47

When you got out of the car, you had to know without a

3:49

mirror. The

3:51

point of all of our masks was

3:54

speed. You had to imagine

3:57

that you were going to be in situations

3:59

that you couldn't be in. even anticipate. An

4:02

officer somewhere picks this thing up, just

4:04

puts it on in

4:06

five seconds, and knows that

4:09

it's right, that he's invisible. If

4:11

you had to sit and tinker with this thing, if

4:13

you needed a mirror, it wasn't going

4:16

to be useful to you at all. The masks

4:18

were full-face latex masks. It allows

4:20

you to throw your brow, it

4:22

allows you to squint your eyes,

4:24

it allows you to speak. The

4:28

specific mask we're talking about would fit

4:30

just one person. The first thing

4:32

we do is we make a face impression. If you've been

4:34

to a dentist and never had a dental impression, it's the

4:36

same thing, it's just your face, not your feet. So

4:39

they would have added to his face. They

4:41

could rearrange his face a bit and give

4:44

him a new face that would fit

4:46

perfectly over his real face. We

4:48

never used human hair, we always used a

4:51

synthetic. The idea of a man

4:53

washing the hair on his mask and

4:55

making it look nice when that was

4:57

all done, it was never going to

4:59

happen. The synthetic hair, you couldn't

5:02

hurt it, basically. You could wear your

5:04

mask in a rainstorm and then your hair would

5:07

still be okay. Very human.

5:10

The masks, more than once, were

5:12

taken off in a moment of

5:14

terror and crushed down and

5:16

put under arms in armpits. They would fit

5:18

in armpits if they needed to. That

5:21

was part of the design. The

5:24

mask is the culmination of a lot

5:26

of work that we did at CIA over a period

5:28

of, I say 10 years,

5:30

developing that technology. It was a

5:32

big challenge to come up with something that

5:34

finally actually animated and

5:37

worked to really fool a

5:39

person closer than three, four feet from

5:41

you. What we did. We

5:45

actually brought Hollywood back into our

5:47

labs at one point to look at what we had

5:49

done. And they were stunned. They're

5:53

absolutely stunned. Congratulations. The

5:55

fact that we're allowed to show it, tells

5:57

me the CIA had moved on. I

5:59

don't know. what they're doing. I shouldn't

6:01

know. I'm dying to know, but I

6:04

don't know. Relax. You'll get to see

6:06

it all later on. So I'm proud to

6:08

show people how good we got to

6:10

that point and let them imagine. So

6:13

what are they doing now? All

6:25

right, so I hope you guys enjoyed that.

6:27

That was just a

6:29

different type of video because I actually

6:31

put the lengthy one in before. So

6:34

let's just see what Twitter is saying about this

6:36

debate. Oh, look at that.

6:38

Almost like I knew. Let's take a listen

6:40

to see what the real. See

6:44

what the real. Oh, isn't

6:46

that awesome? German television just

6:48

promoting it. Let's go. It's a

6:51

non sequitur. I don't even understand the context

6:53

of that. This is the president of the

6:55

United States running for reelection. He's our guy.

6:58

And that's part of the diversion tactic.

7:00

We're right to continue to sort of

7:02

muddy the waters on all that nonsensical

7:04

speculation. It's just like the absurdity of

7:07

who's going to get an injection

7:09

shot. I mean, this is this

7:11

is farcical. It's serious stuff from

7:13

the freedom, liberty rights. And

7:16

to see it trivialize this

7:18

word, trivializing it, even having these conversations

7:21

is really distressing to me as an

7:23

American citizen, not just as a Democrat.

7:25

That's a non sequitur. I don't even

7:28

understand the context of that. He

7:31

doesn't understand why Joe

7:33

Biden shouldn't have given shouldn't

7:35

have taken the what is going

7:37

on here. I

7:40

see rumble working. Why are people saying the

7:42

rumble is not working? Like,

7:44

let me let me refresh and see. I can

7:47

see myself laughing in the screen. Are

7:50

you guys kidding me? Am I being punked? I

7:55

hear you. I see. Oh, it says something went

7:57

wrong. I think the rumble servers

7:59

are down. No,

8:02

I can see that the rumble

8:04

thing is down. Okay, the

8:06

chat, the chat. Rumble is down. The whole

8:08

thing is down. Look, can you see it?

8:13

Yeah, I understand it. It's back up now. It

8:16

should be back up. Let

8:18

me see it because I just refreshed it. Oh,

8:22

and it just went away. Let me do refresh again.

8:26

Hmm. Let me, where's

8:28

that? Where's my work cell phone? There

8:31

it is. Hmm.

8:41

Okay. It

8:47

says HTTP error 500.

8:52

So I'm like confused. Yeah, there's no

8:54

rumble. I just texted

8:58

rumble. Oh,

9:01

wow. Rumble is

9:03

down. I can confirm that guys. Rumble

9:05

is down. Okay. Let

9:10

me know when it's

9:12

back up. Wow.

9:17

All right. Yeah,

9:20

nobody can get back on

9:22

rumble. Okay. Let me put a

9:24

banner so I could tell you that so

9:26

that people don't say, you know, hey, it's cut

9:31

off midstream. Rumble's down. They

9:34

just told me that. Rumble

9:37

is down. Okay.

9:40

Rumble's down. Okay. Stop asking the

9:42

question. So I guess we'll stick

9:44

to Twitter for now until we

9:46

can get back. Okay.

9:50

But Rumble is on fire TV. Yeah. If

9:53

it's on fire TV and you guys are on

9:55

there and you can watch that's fantastic. But

9:58

Rumble is trying to get their. stuff back up and

10:02

they'll let me know when it is. All

10:05

right, so, yep, okay,

10:09

perfect. All right, so

10:12

let's just go through my feed, which

10:14

that was hilarious. Let's

10:17

see, what's going on here?

10:21

Real footage of Bigfoot. You

10:24

know, I love this account. Like I steal his

10:27

memes all the time. And every now and then

10:29

I'll just drop in and say, hey,

10:31

thanks for the meme, I steal them all.

10:35

Let's see, I didn't see

10:37

anything good. God,

10:40

I can't people be classy. Let's

10:43

see, what's this? Getting ready to

10:45

moderate tonight's alternate

10:47

presidential debate with Robert

10:49

Kennedy Jr. Huh,

10:54

wow, all right. Let's

10:57

see, which one should we use? We should use

10:59

this one where CNN's talking, right? We wanna see

11:01

their talking points. You know what?

11:03

So let's get this party started, all right?

11:05

Let me get this started. Let

11:09

me do my pre-roll, you guys. I

11:11

don't wanna scowl. How'd I add? How

11:14

about that? China is

11:16

going to eat our lunch. Come

11:18

on, man, we want to see China

11:21

rise. It is in our self-interest that

11:23

China continue to prosper. They're not bad

11:25

folks, folks. But

11:27

guess what? They're not competition for us.

11:30

Arising China can be a significant asset

11:32

for the region of the world and

11:35

selfishly for the United States. We want

11:37

China to grow. What are we worried

11:39

about? Because

11:41

Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

11:44

We condemn in the strongest

11:47

possible terms this

11:49

egregious display of hatred, bigotry,

11:51

and violence. It has

11:53

no place in America.

11:56

Because he won't stand up to

11:58

any form of violence. To

12:00

anyone who acted criminally in this

12:03

weekend's racist violence, you

12:05

will be held fully accountable.

12:08

Antifa is an idea. Those who

12:10

spread violence in the name of

12:12

bigotry strike at the very core

12:14

of America. He's

12:17

got no problem with right-wing militia, white

12:19

supremacists and vigilantes with assault weapons.

12:22

And many people in that group

12:24

other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,

12:26

okay? And I'm not talking about

12:29

the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists

12:31

because they should be condemned totally.

12:33

Racism is evil. And

12:36

those who cause violence in its name

12:38

are criminals and thugs, including

12:40

the KKK, neo-Nazis,

12:43

white supremacists, and

12:45

other hate groups that are

12:48

repugnant to everything we hold dear

12:50

as Americans. Antifa is an idea,

12:52

not an organization. Oh, you got

12:54

it. Not militia. Basically,

12:58

tonight we will unveil the CBS

13:00

Confirm team to take a look

13:02

at the things that the campaigns and the candidates say

13:04

tonight that most need a fact

13:06

check. Either there's missing

13:08

context or it's a complete falsehood. We

13:11

will explain all of that and, not

13:13

just tonight, but throughout this process will

13:15

the CBS Confirm team show our work. How

13:18

did we reach the conclusion to verify something

13:20

is true or identify it as

13:23

something false or something in between? We'll not

13:25

only explain the verdict we've reached, but how

13:27

we got there. Keep

13:29

in mind that they all have the questions and they all have

13:32

the answers and they already have the fact checks. Just the way

13:34

they fact check Russia hoax. Just

13:38

the way they fact check everything

13:40

that has happened. So please keep that in mind. It's

13:43

excellent. I think we're all looking forward to that. It's

13:45

such an important element of what we do is fact

13:47

checking this. I also

13:49

just think about having covered so many presidential

13:51

contests. We usually

13:53

have the candidates lay out big

13:55

pieces of policy, like their tax

13:58

plan or their health plan. Or

14:01

in the case of Trump who has talked about a

14:03

lot of things that he was going to unveil, it

14:05

just hasn't happened. There's no big policy

14:07

discussion. Think about how much we used to talk about

14:09

health care. I mean, in the Obama

14:11

years. And it was a constant

14:13

and then in the Democratic. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I

14:16

can't do this. We're going to have to go to CNN. CBS is

14:18

driving me insane. Okay. Because

14:20

all President Trump has been talking about

14:22

is freaking policy. Biden

14:25

just has abortion, abortion, abortion, women's rights,

14:27

and we're going to get Trump. That's

14:30

his policy for us. It's like, let's save

14:32

our country. Let's get this

14:34

going. We need to fix things. This

14:36

is not good. You know, that is

14:38

what he's been doing all this time. So

14:41

I'm extremely confused when I hear people say that

14:43

I just can't watch it. It's not possible for

14:45

me to watch it. Period.

14:48

That's it. It's not happening. Forget

14:50

CBS. They need to go like it's

14:52

done. Like I'm going to go to town CNN

14:56

because they're going to make sense. At

14:59

least they know the questions in advance. Right. Let's go.

15:02

Let's see what they have to say about the questions in

15:04

advance. Nuts on him. Our

15:06

focus group said, oh my God, he's

15:09

actually going to hold their accountable. This

15:11

is exactly what we're looking for in politics.

15:13

So he was a disaster in 2020. He

15:16

was really good in 2016. Well,

15:18

when you look at those two moments, I'm sure there

15:21

were some voters who did not like that moment. This

15:23

is a political opponent clearly

15:25

saying he put his other his

15:27

opponent in jail because he doesn't

15:29

like her. But when you

15:31

actually look at this, you know, you write in this and

15:33

say doesn't like her. She's a

15:35

criminal. She has a list of a

15:37

body count. And to hear

15:39

are those in which the candidates are

15:42

defining ways or under that's better. That

15:45

sounds better, doesn't it? Now, let's just see the

15:47

comments, please. Because I'm going to

15:49

lose my mind with what she said. That's

15:51

so much better. So much

15:53

better. So much better. Let's just

15:55

wait for the countdown of the debate. How's that? So

15:58

I want to see some comments. I know

16:00

that Rumble is down. They'll let

16:02

me know when they're back up because I'm not

16:05

we're not doing that Some

16:08

people were upset about it. You know, I have

16:10

it on yeah, I'm it's it's

16:12

on a countdown I don't know how

16:14

it's not on yet. They said a two-minute delay. Are

16:16

they giving us a 20 minute delay? Like

16:18

I really don't understand This

16:21

is insane. I don't understand

16:23

why it's so late. Isn't

16:25

it supposed to oh dear I wonder

16:27

what the production is gonna be like, how

16:30

about you guys? I'm like actually super excited

16:32

to see what this production is

16:34

gonna be like for real for real Like

16:37

I'm excited to see How

16:40

is it that are they gonna you know plus

16:42

say this, you know the

16:44

questions. I'm just I'm

16:46

waiting. I'm really excited Because

16:50

I have no idea what the script is gonna be

16:52

so I'm

16:54

I'm actually very excited to see how they're

16:57

gonna play this out. We've

16:59

got five minutes and 30 seconds Mmm, let me

17:01

think let me think let me think Maybe

17:04

we should play some music. I'd like

17:07

some music. I got some video files. Give me a

17:09

second. Let me find one Mmm,

17:12

just to take the edge off something

17:14

fun. I know Well,

17:17

maybe the script writers are having a party

17:19

we should we should yeah this we're having

17:22

a party have a party I

17:33

Moved out the Langley recently with

17:36

a plain and simple dream Wanna

17:39

infiltrate some third world place and

17:41

topple their regime So

17:44

man in black with their mansion

17:46

suitcases where everything's on a need

17:48

to know basis agents got that

17:51

swagger And everyone's so broken and

17:53

feeling nervous, but I'm really kind

17:55

of wishing for an undercover mission

18:00

On the radio and I put my

18:02

earpiece on Got my dark

18:04

sunglasses on And

18:06

I had my weapon drawn Hands up

18:08

I'm getting the van Pearl shall get

18:11

blown away Staging a cool like day

18:13

Staging a cool like day Braint wash

18:15

and moles like it We

18:18

only torture the folks we don't like You're

18:20

probably gonna be okay You're gonna

18:22

be okay Yeah, yeah, yeah It's

18:26

a party in the sea, I hate it Yeah,

18:28

yeah, yeah It's a party in the sea,

18:31

I hate it To

18:58

go by and that's it It's get down

19:00

with CCP, let's try this CCP

19:06

Get down with CCP CCP

19:11

That was Kraz And I love it, and I'm okay

19:13

with it, let's go Here comes

19:15

the debate Now we can

19:17

unmute them We're

19:23

gonna mute them We don't like the music

19:27

Damn that frequency was off The

19:29

charts Holy crap

19:33

Did you hear it? The temporal? Damn,

19:35

damn, damn, damn We're

19:38

gonna mute them We don't need their

19:40

background music I can sing for

19:42

everyone No

19:45

I won't Rumble

19:48

servers are down still So

19:53

China, Rumble is still going Australia

19:56

is still going Australia is still going Africa's

20:01

still going, United Kingdom's

20:03

still going. This is from listeners.

20:08

So, that's interesting. Okay, end

20:10

of music. I

20:12

don't want to play that. Hey.

20:18

We're live from Georgia, a key

20:20

battleground state in the race for

20:23

the White House. In just moments,

20:25

the current US President will debate

20:27

the former US President as their

20:29

party's presumptive nominees, a first in

20:32

American history. We want

20:34

to welcome our viewers in the United States

20:36

and around the world to our studios in

20:38

Atlanta. This is the

20:40

CNN Presidential Debate. This

20:43

debate is being produced by CNN, and

20:45

it's coming to you live on CNN,

20:48

CNN International, cnn.com,

20:50

CNN Max, and CNN

20:53

Español. This is a

20:55

pivotal moment between President Joe Biden and

20:57

former President Donald Trump in

20:59

their rematch for the nation's highest office.

21:02

Each will make his case to the

21:04

American people with just over four months

21:06

until Election Day. Good

21:09

evening. I'm Dana Bash, anchor of CNN's Inside

21:11

Politics and co-anchor of State of the Union.

21:13

I'm Jake Tapper, anchor of CNN's the lead

21:16

and co-anchor of State of the Union. Dana

21:19

and I will co-moderate this evening.

21:21

My job is to facilitate a

21:23

debate between the two candidates tonight.

21:26

Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules

21:28

of the debate with the audience at home. Former

21:31

President Trump will be on the left

21:33

side of the screen. President Biden will

21:35

be appearing on the right. A coin

21:37

toss determined their positions. Each

21:39

candidate will have two minutes to answer

21:41

a question and one minute each for

21:44

responses and rebuttals. An

21:46

additional minute for follow-up clarification or

21:48

response is at the moderator's discretion.

21:52

When it's time for a candidate to

21:54

speak, his microphone will be turned on

21:56

and his opponent's microphone will be turned

21:58

off. candidates interrupt

22:00

when his microphone is muted, he

22:02

will be difficult to understand for

22:04

viewers at home. At

22:07

the end of the debate, each

22:09

candidate will get two minutes for

22:11

closing statements. There is no studio

22:13

audience tonight. Pre-written notes, props or

22:15

contact with campaign staff are not

22:17

permitted during the debate. By

22:19

accepting our invitation to debate

22:21

both candidates and their campaigns,

22:23

agreed to accept these rules.

22:26

Now please welcome the 46th president

22:28

of the United States, Joe Biden.

22:33

So tell me. Thank

22:40

you. And

22:43

please welcome the 45th president of

22:45

the United States, Donald Trump. Gentlemen,

22:59

thanks so much for being here. Let's begin

23:01

the debate and let's start with the issue

23:03

that voters consistently say is there

23:06

top concern, the economy. President

23:08

Biden, inflation has slowed, but

23:10

prices remain high. Since

23:13

you took office, the price of essentials has

23:15

increased. For example, a basket of groceries that

23:17

cost $100 then now costs more than $120.

23:19

And typical home

23:23

prices have jumped more than 30%. What

23:26

do you say to voters who feel they are

23:28

worse off under your presidency than they were under

23:31

President Trump? That's

23:53

exactly what we began to do. 15,000

24:00

new jobs. We brought out a

24:02

position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing

24:05

jobs. But there's more to be done. There's

24:07

more to be done. Working class people are

24:09

still in trouble. I come from

24:11

Scranton, Pennsylvania. I come from a household where the

24:14

kitchen table, if the things weren't

24:16

able to be met during the month, it was a

24:18

problem. The price of eggs, the price of gas, the

24:20

price of housing, the price of a whole range of

24:22

things. That's why I'm working so hard to make sure

24:24

I deal with those problems and

24:26

we're going to make sure that we reduce the

24:28

price of housing. We're going to make sure we

24:30

build two million new units. We're going to make

24:33

sure we cap rents so corporate greed can't take

24:35

over. The combination that I was left with in

24:37

corporate greed is the reason why we're in this

24:39

problem right now. In addition to

24:41

that, we're in a situation where if you had

24:43

to take a look at all that was done

24:45

in his administration, he didn't do much

24:48

at all. By the time he left, there were things

24:50

that were in chaos, literally chaos.

24:53

And so we put things back together. We created,

24:55

I said, those jobs. We make sure we had

24:57

a situation where we now, we

24:59

brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is

25:01

a major issue for many people. It's

25:04

$15 for an insulin

25:06

shot as opposed to $400. No

25:09

senior has to pay more than $200 for any drug, all

25:11

the drugs they could

25:14

include beginning next year. In a

25:16

situation that we're going to make that available to

25:18

everybody, to all Americans. So we're working to bring

25:20

down the price of around the kitchen table and

25:22

that's what we're going to get done. Thank

25:25

you. President Trump. We had the

25:27

greatest economy in the history of our country. We

25:30

have never done so well. Everybody

25:34

was amazed by it. Other countries were copying

25:36

us. We got hit with COVID.

25:39

And when we did, we spent the money necessary

25:41

so we wouldn't end up in a great depression,

25:43

the likes of which we had in 1929. By

25:47

the time we finished, so we did a great

25:49

job. We got a lot of credit for the

25:51

economy, a lot of credit for the military and

25:53

no wars and so many other things. Everything was

25:55

rocking good. But the thing we never got the

25:57

credit for and we should have is getting us

25:59

out of that. the COVID mess. He

26:02

created mandates that was a disaster for

26:04

our country. But other than that, we

26:06

had given them back a country

26:09

where the stock market actually was higher

26:11

than pre-COVID and nobody thought that was

26:13

even possible. The only jobs

26:15

he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce

26:18

back jobs, a bounce back from the COVID.

26:20

He has not done a good job. He's

26:22

done a poor job and inflation's killing our

26:24

country. It is absolutely killing us. Thank

26:27

you, President Biden. Well, look, the

26:29

greatest economy in the world, he's the only one who thinks that,

26:31

I think. I don't know anybody else who thinks he's the greatest

26:34

economy in the world. And

26:36

the fact of the matter is that we prided

26:39

ourselves in a situation where his

26:42

economy, he rewarded the wealthy.

26:44

He had the largest tax cut in American history,

26:46

$2 trillion. He

26:48

raised a deficit larger than any president has in any

26:51

one term. He's the only president

26:53

other than Herbert Hoover, who's lost more jobs

26:55

than he had when he began, since Herbert

26:57

Hoover. The idea that he

26:59

did something that was significant in the

27:01

military. You know, when he

27:03

was president, there were still killing people in

27:05

Afghanistan. He didn't do anything about that.

27:07

When he was president, we were still finding ourselves in

27:09

a position where you had a

27:12

notion that we were this safe

27:14

country. Truth is, I'm

27:16

the only president this century that

27:18

doesn't have any this decade

27:20

to have any troops dying anywhere

27:22

in the world like he did.

27:26

President Trump, I want to follow up You

27:29

want to respond to him? Well, I'm going to ask you a follow up.

27:31

You can do whatever you want with the minute that we give you. I

27:34

want to follow up. You want to impose a 10% tariff

27:36

on all goods coming into the US. How

27:39

will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even

27:41

higher? Not going to drive them higher. It's just

27:43

going to cause countries that have been ripping us

27:45

off for years like China and many others in

27:47

all fairness to China. It's going to just force

27:50

them to pay us a lot of money, reduce

27:52

our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of

27:54

power for other things. But he made a

27:56

statement. The only thing he was right about is I

27:58

gave you the largest. tax cut in

28:00

history. I also gave you the largest regulation cut

28:02

in history. That's why we had all the jobs

28:05

and the jobs went down and then they bounced

28:07

back and he's taking credit for bounced back jobs.

28:09

You can't do that. He also said he

28:11

inherited 9% inflation. No, he inherited almost

28:13

no inflation and it stayed that way

28:16

for 14 months. And then it blew

28:18

up under his leadership because they spent

28:20

money like a bunch of people

28:22

that didn't know what they were doing and

28:24

they don't know what they were doing. It

28:27

was the worst, probably the worst administration in

28:29

history. There's never been. And as far as

28:31

Afghanistan is concerned, I was getting out of

28:33

Afghanistan, but we're getting out with dignity, with

28:35

strength, with power. He

28:37

got out. It was the most embarrassing day

28:39

in the history of our country's life. President

28:42

Trump, over the last eight years under

28:44

both of your administrations, the national debt

28:47

soared to record highs. And according to

28:49

a new nonpartisan analysis, President Trump, your

28:51

administration approved $8.4 trillion in

28:53

new debt. Well, so far, President Biden, you've

28:56

approved $4.3 trillion in new debt. So

28:59

former President Trump, many of the tax cuts

29:01

that you signed into law are set to

29:03

expire next year. You want to extend them

29:05

and go even further, you say, with

29:07

the US facing trillion dollar deficits and

29:10

record debt, why should top earners and

29:12

corporations pay even less in taxes than

29:14

they do now? Because the tax cuts

29:16

spurred the greatest economy that we've ever

29:18

seen just prior to COVID. And even

29:20

after COVID, it was so strong that

29:22

we're able to get through COVID much

29:24

better than just about any other country.

29:26

But we spurred that tax spirit. Now,

29:29

when we cut the taxes, as an example, the

29:31

corporate tax was cut down to 21% from 39%.

29:35

Plus, beyond that, we took

29:37

in more revenue with much less tax

29:39

and companies were bringing back trillions of

29:41

dollars back into our country. The country

29:44

was going like never before. And we

29:46

were ready to start paying down debt.

29:48

We're already using the liquid gold right

29:50

under our feet, the oil and gas

29:52

right under our feet, we were going

29:54

to have something that nobody else has

29:56

had. We got hit with COVID. We

29:58

did a lot to fix it. gave him

30:00

an unbelievable situation with all of the

30:02

therapeutics and all of the things that

30:04

we came up with. We

30:07

gave him something great. Remember, more

30:09

people died under his administration,

30:11

even though we had largely fixed it.

30:13

More people died under his administration than

30:16

our administration. And we were right in

30:18

the middle of it, something which a

30:20

lot of people don't like to talk

30:22

about. But he had far more people

30:24

dying in his administration. He did the

30:26

mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it.

30:29

The vaccine went out. He did a mandate

30:31

on the vaccine, which is the thing that

30:33

people most objected to about the vaccine. And

30:36

he did a very poor job, just

30:38

a very poor job. And I will

30:40

tell you, not only poor there, but

30:42

throughout the entire world, we're no longer

30:44

respected as a country. They don't respect

30:46

our leadership. They don't respect the United

30:48

States anymore. We're like a third world

30:50

nation between weaponization of his election, trying

30:53

to go after his political opponent. All

30:55

of the things he's done, we've become

30:57

like a third world nation. And it's

30:59

a shame. The damage he's done to

31:01

our country. And I'd love to ask

31:03

him and will why he allowed millions

31:05

of people to come in here from

31:07

prisons, jails and mental institutions to come

31:10

into our country and destroy our country.

31:12

President Trump, we will get to immigration later

31:14

in this block. President Biden, I want to

31:16

give you an opportunity to respond to this

31:18

question about the national debt. He

31:21

had the largest national debt of any president for

31:23

your period. Number one, number two, he

31:26

got $2 trillion tax code benefit at

31:28

the very wealthy. I,

31:30

what I'm going to do is fix the tax system. For example, we

31:33

have a thousand billionaires in America, I

31:35

mean, billionaires in America. And what's happening there

31:37

in a situation where they in fact pay

31:39

8.2% in taxes, if they just paid 24%,

31:41

25%, either one of those numbers, they've

31:47

raised $500 million, billion dollars, I should

31:49

say, in a 10 year period, we'd

31:51

be able to wipe out his debt,

31:53

we'd be able to help make sure

31:55

that all those things we need to

31:57

do, childcare, elder care, making sure that

31:59

we continue to do that. to strengthen

32:02

our healthcare system, making sure that we're

32:04

able to make every single solitary person

32:07

eligible for what I've been able to do

32:09

with the COVID, dealing with everything we

32:15

have to do with, look,

32:20

if we finally

32:22

beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden.

32:24

President Trump? Well, he's right.

32:27

He did beat Medicare. He beat it

32:29

to death and he's destroying Medicare because

32:31

all of these people are coming in.

32:33

They're putting them on Medicare. They're putting

32:35

them on Social Security. They're going to

32:37

destroy Social Security. This man is going

32:39

to single handedly destroy Social Security. These

32:41

millions and millions of people coming in,

32:43

they're trying to put them on Social

32:46

Security. He will wipe out Social

32:48

Security. He will wipe out Medicare. So he

32:50

was right in the way he finished that

32:52

sentence. And it's a shame. What's

32:54

happened to our country in the

32:56

last four years is not to be believed.

32:59

Foreign countries, I'm friends with a lot of

33:01

people. They cannot believe what happened to the

33:03

United States of America. We're no longer respected.

33:07

They don't like us. We give

33:09

them everything they want and they think we're

33:11

stupid. They think we're very stupid people. What

33:14

we're doing for other countries and they

33:16

do nothing for us. What this man

33:19

has done is absolutely criminal. Thank

33:22

you, President Trump. Dana. This

33:24

is the first presidential election since the

33:26

Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. This

33:29

morning, the court ruled on

33:31

yet another abortion case temporarily

33:34

allowing emergency abortions to continue

33:36

in Idaho, despite that

33:38

state's restrictive ban. Former

33:40

President Trump, you take credit

33:42

for the decision to overturn Roe v.

33:45

Wade, which returned the issue of abortion

33:47

to the states. However, the

33:50

federal government still plays a role

33:52

in whether or not women have

33:54

access to abortion pills. They're

33:57

used in about two thirds of all

33:59

abortions. As president,

34:01

would you block abortion medication?

34:04

First of all, the Supreme Court just approved

34:07

the abortion pill. And I

34:09

agree with their decision to have done that. And I will

34:11

not block it. And if

34:13

you look at this whole question that you're

34:15

asking, a complex but not really

34:17

complex. 51 years ago, you

34:20

had Roe v. Wade and everybody wanted

34:22

to get it back to the states.

34:25

Everybody without exception. Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives.

34:27

Everybody wanted it back. Religious leaders. And

34:31

what I did is I put three great Supreme

34:33

Court justices on the court. And

34:36

they happened to vote in favor of

34:38

killing Roe v. Wade and moving it

34:40

back to the states. This is something

34:42

that everybody wanted. Now,

34:44

10 years ago or so, they started talking

34:46

about how many weeks and how many this

34:48

getting into other things. But every legal scholar

34:51

throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it

34:53

brought back to the states. I did that.

34:55

Now the states are working it out. If

34:57

you look at Ohio, it was a decision

34:59

that was an end result. It was a

35:01

little bit more liberal than you would have

35:03

thought. Kansas, I would say the

35:05

same thing. Texas is different. Florida is different.

35:09

But they're all making their own decisions right now.

35:11

And right now, the states control it. That's

35:13

the vote of the people. Like

35:16

Ronald Reagan, I believe in the exceptions. I

35:18

am a person that believes. And

35:20

frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions.

35:23

Some people, you have to follow your heart. Some people don't

35:25

believe in that. But I believe

35:27

in the exceptions for rape incest

35:29

and the life of the mother. I think

35:32

it's very important. Some people don't. Follow your

35:34

heart. But you have to get elected also.

35:37

Because that has to do with other things. You've got to

35:39

get elected. The problem they have is

35:41

they're radical because they will take

35:43

the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month,

35:45

and even after birth. After birth, if

35:47

you look at the former governor of

35:49

Virginia, he was willing to do this.

35:53

He said, well, put the baby aside and we'll

35:55

determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll

35:57

kill the baby. What happened is we brought it

35:59

back to the state. and the country is now

36:01

coming together on this issue. It's been a great

36:04

thing. Thank you. President Biden? It's

36:06

been a terrible thing, what you've done. The

36:09

fact is that the vast majority of constitutional

36:11

scholars support it row when it was decided.

36:13

Support it row. And that's

36:16

this idea that they're all against it. It's

36:18

just ridiculous. And this is the guy

36:20

who says the state should be able to have

36:22

it. We're a state where in six weeks, you

36:24

don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but

36:26

you cannot see a doctor have your... and

36:29

have him decide on what your circumstances

36:31

are when you need help. The

36:33

idea that states are able to do this is

36:35

a little like saying, we're going to turn civil

36:37

rights back to the states, that each state have

36:39

a different role. Look, there's so

36:41

many young women who have been, including a

36:43

young woman who just was murdered, and

36:46

he went to the funeral. And the

36:48

idea that she was murdered

36:50

by an immigrant coming

36:52

in, they talk about that. But

36:54

here's the deal. There's a lot of young

36:57

women who are raped by their

36:59

in-laws, by their spouses, brothers

37:02

and sisters. It's just ridiculous.

37:04

And they can do nothing about it. And

37:06

then try to arrest them on the cross

37:09

state line. Thank you. There

37:11

have been many young women murdered by

37:14

the same people he allows to come across

37:16

our border. We have a border that's

37:18

the most dangerous place anywhere in the world,

37:20

considered the most dangerous place anywhere in the

37:22

world. And he opened it up,

37:25

and these killers are coming into our country.

37:27

And they are raping and killing women. And

37:30

it's a terrible thing. As far as the abortion is

37:32

concerned, it is now back with the states, the states

37:34

are voting. In many

37:36

cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision.

37:38

In many cases, it's the opposite. But

37:41

they're voting, and it's bringing it back to the

37:43

vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted,

37:45

including the founders if they knew about

37:48

this issue, which frankly, they didn't. But

37:50

they would have, everybody wanted brought back. Ronald

37:52

Reagan wanted it brought back. He wasn't able

37:55

to get it. Everybody wanted

37:57

it brought back, and many presidents

37:59

had tried. to get it back, I

38:01

was the one to do it. And again, this

38:03

gives it the vote of the people, and that's

38:06

where they wanted it. Every legal scholar wanted it

38:08

that way. Staying on

38:10

the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven

38:12

states, I'll let you do that. This

38:15

is the same topic. Seven states

38:17

have no legal restrictions on how

38:19

far into a pregnancy a woman

38:21

can obtain an abortion. Do

38:24

you support any legal limits on how

38:26

late a woman should be able to

38:28

terminate a pregnancy? I support Roe v.

38:30

Wade, which had three trimesters. First

38:33

time is between a woman and a

38:35

doctor. Second time is between a doctor

38:37

and an extreme situation. A third time

38:39

is between the doctor, I

38:41

mean, between the woman and the state.

38:44

The idea that the politicians, that

38:47

the founders wanted the politicians to be the

38:49

ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous.

38:51

That's the last, no politicians should be making

38:53

that decision. A doctor should be making those

38:56

decisions. That's how it should be run. That's

38:58

what you're gonna do. And if I'm elected, I'm

39:00

gonna restore Roe v. Wade. So

39:03

that means he can take the life of

39:05

the baby in the ninth month and

39:08

even after birth, because some states Democrat

39:10

run, take it after birth. Again, the

39:12

governor, former governor of Virginia, put

39:15

the baby down, then we decide what to do with

39:17

it. So he's willing to, as we

39:19

say, rip the baby out of the womb

39:21

in the ninth month and kill the baby.

39:24

Nobody wants that to happen. Democrat

39:26

or Republican. Nobody wants it to

39:29

happen. That is simply not true. The

39:32

Roe v. Wade does not provide for that.

39:34

That's not the circumstance. Only the woman's life

39:36

is in danger. She's gonna die. That's the

39:38

only circumstance in which that can happen. But

39:41

we are not for late term abortion, period,

39:43

period. Under Roe v.

39:45

Wade, you have late term abortion. You can

39:47

do whatever you want depending on the state.

39:49

You can do whatever you want. We don't

39:51

think that's a good thing. We think it's

39:53

a radical thing. We think the Democrats are

39:55

the radicals, not the Republicans. For 51 years,

39:57

that was a law. 51 years. years, Constance

39:59

was scholarship said it was the right way

40:01

to go. It was still wrong. And

40:04

it was taken away because this guy

40:06

put very conservative members on a screen,

40:08

credit for taking it away. What's he

40:10

going to do? What's he going to

40:12

do? In fact, if the if the

40:14

MAGA Republicans get selected and the MAGA

40:17

Republicans control the Congress and they pass

40:19

on the universal ban on abortion period

40:21

across the board at six weeks or

40:23

seven or eight or ten weeks, something

40:25

very, very conservative, is he going to

40:27

sign that bill? I'll veto it. He'll

40:29

sign it. Thank you. Let's

40:31

turn out of the issue of immigration and

40:34

border security. President Biden, a record number of

40:36

migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on

40:38

your watch, overwhelming border states

40:40

and overburdening cities such as New York

40:43

and Chicago, and in some cases causing

40:45

real safety and security concerns. Given

40:47

that, why should voters trust you to

40:49

solve this crisis? Because we

40:51

worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement

40:54

that not only changed all of that,

40:56

made sure that we are in a situation where

40:59

you had no circumstance where they

41:01

could come across the border with the

41:03

number of border police that are now,

41:06

we significantly increased the number of asylum

41:08

officers, significantly by the way, the border

41:10

patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position. In

41:13

addition to that, we found ourselves in

41:15

a situation where when he was present,

41:17

he was taking, separating babies from their

41:19

mothers, putting them in cages, making sure

41:22

that the families were separated. That's not

41:24

the right way to go. What I've

41:26

done since I've changed the law, what's

41:28

happened, I've changed it in a way

41:30

that now you're in a situation where

41:32

there are 40 percent fewer people coming

41:35

across the border legally, especially when he

41:37

left office. And I'm going to

41:39

continue to move until we get the total ban on

41:42

the total initiative

41:44

relative to what we're going to do

41:46

with more border patrol and more

41:48

asylum officers. President Trump, I

41:51

really don't know what he said at the end of this sentence.

41:53

I don't think he knows what he said either. Look, we

41:56

had the safest border in the history of our country. leave

42:00

it. All he had to do is leave it. He

42:02

decided to open up our border, open up

42:04

our country to people that

42:06

are from prisons, people

42:09

that are from mental institutions in San

42:11

Jose Island, terrorists. We have the

42:13

largest number of terrorists coming into our country right

42:15

now, all terrorists all over the world, not just

42:18

in South America, all over the world. They come

42:20

from the Middle East everywhere, all over the world.

42:22

They're pouring in. And this

42:24

guy just left it open. And he

42:26

didn't need legislation because I didn't have legislation.

42:29

And I said, close the border. We had

42:31

the safest border in history in that final

42:33

couple of months of my presidency. We had,

42:35

according to border patrol, who is great. And

42:37

by the way, who endorsed me for president,

42:39

but I won't say that, but they endorsed

42:42

me for president. Brandon, just

42:44

speak to him. But look, we had the

42:46

safest border in history. Now we have the

42:48

worst border in history. There's never been anything

42:50

like it. And people are dying all over

42:53

the place, including the people that are coming

42:55

up. Thank you, President Trump. President Biden. The

42:57

only terrorist who's done anything across

42:59

the border is one who came

43:02

along and killed three under his

43:04

administration, killed an Al Qaeda person

43:06

coming in and his administration, kill

43:08

three American soldiers, kill three

43:10

American soldiers. That's the only terrorists that

43:13

they're, I'm not saying that no terrorist

43:15

ever got through with the idea they're

43:17

emptying their prisons. We're welcoming these people.

43:19

That's simply not true. There's no data

43:21

to support what he said. Once again,

43:24

he's exaggerating. He's lying. President

43:27

Trump, staying on the topic of immigration,

43:29

you've said that you're going to carry

43:31

out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation

43:33

in American history, unquote. Does that mean

43:35

that you will deport every undocumented immigrant

43:37

in America, including those who have jobs,

43:40

including those whose spouses are citizens and

43:42

including those who have lived here for

43:44

decades? And if so, how will you

43:46

do it? Just one second. He

43:48

said we killed three people. The

43:50

people we killed are Al

43:52

Baghdadi and Sala Mani, the

43:54

two greatest terrorists, biggest terrorists anywhere in the

43:57

world. And it had a huge impact on

43:59

everything, not just. border on everything.

44:02

He's the one to kill people with the bad water,

44:04

including hundreds of thousands

44:06

of people dying and also killing

44:08

our citizens when they come in.

44:10

We are living right now in

44:12

a rat's nest. They're killing our

44:14

people in New York and California

44:16

and every state in the union,

44:18

because we don't have borders anymore.

44:20

Every state is now a border.

44:22

And because of his ridiculous, insane

44:24

and very stupid policies, people are

44:26

coming in and they're killing our

44:28

citizens at a level that we've

44:30

never seen. We call it migrant

44:32

crime. I call it Biden migrant

44:34

crime. They're killing our citizens at

44:36

a level that we've never seen

44:38

before. And you're reading it like

44:40

these three incredible young girls over

44:42

the last few days. One

44:45

of them, I just spoke to the mother and he just

44:48

had the funeral for this girl, 12

44:50

years old. This is horrible. What's taken

44:52

place, what's taken place in our country?

44:55

We're literally an uncivilized

44:57

country now. He doesn't want it to be.

44:59

He just doesn't know. He opened the borders.

45:01

Nobody's ever seen anything like and we have

45:03

to get a lot of these people out

45:05

and we have to get them out fast

45:07

because they're going to destroy our country. Just

45:09

take a look at where they're living. They're

45:11

living in luxury hotels in New

45:14

York City and other places. Our veterans

45:16

are on the street. They're dying because he doesn't

45:18

care about our veterans. He doesn't care. He doesn't

45:20

like the military at all. And he

45:22

doesn't care about our veterans. Nobody's been worse.

45:24

I had the highest approval rating for veterans

45:26

taking care of the VA. He

45:28

has the worst. He's gotten rid of all the

45:30

things that I approved. Choice that I got through

45:32

Congress, all of the different things

45:35

I approved. They abandoned. We had by far

45:37

the highest and now it's down in less

45:39

than half because he's done all these great

45:41

things that we did. And I think he

45:43

did it just because I approved it, which

45:45

is crazy. But he has killed so many

45:47

people at our border by allowing all of

45:49

these people to come in. It's a very

45:51

sad day in America. You have the mic.

45:54

Every single thing he says a lie, every

45:56

single one, for example, veterans are a hell of

45:58

a lot better off. since I passed the PAC

46:01

Act. One million of them now

46:03

have insurance, and their families have it. Their

46:06

families have it because what happened, whether

46:08

it was Agent Orange or Burnpits, they're

46:10

all being covered now. And

46:12

his group opposed that. We're also in

46:14

a situation where we have great respect

46:17

for veterans. My son spent a year in

46:19

Iraq. Later, one of the

46:21

next one of those Burnpits came back with

46:23

stage four glioblastoma. I was

46:25

recently in France

46:27

for D-Day, and I

46:29

spoke all about those heroes that died. I

46:32

went to the World War II cemetery. World

46:34

War I cemetery he refused to go to.

46:36

He was standing with his four-star general, and he told me,

46:39

he said, I don't want to go in there because there's

46:41

a bunch of losers and suckers. My son

46:43

was not a loser, was not a sucker. You're

46:45

the sucker. You're the loser. President

46:47

Trump? First of all,

46:49

that was a made-up quote. Suckers and losers. They

46:51

made it up. It was in a third-rate magazine

46:54

that's failing, like many of these magazines. He

46:56

made that up. He put it in commercials.

46:58

We've notified him. We had 19 people

47:01

that said I didn't say it. And think

47:03

of this, who would say, I'm at a

47:05

cemetery or I'm talking about our veterans because

47:07

nobody's taking better care. I'm so glad this

47:09

came up, and he brought it up. There's

47:12

nobody that's taken better care of our soldiers than

47:14

I have. To think that

47:16

I would, in front of generals and

47:18

others, say suckers and losers. We have

47:20

19 people that said it was

47:23

never said by me. It was made

47:25

up by him, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was

47:27

made up, just like the 51 intelligence

47:29

agents are made up, just

47:32

like the new thing with the 16 economists

47:34

are talking. It's the same thing. 51

47:36

intelligence agents said that the laptop

47:39

was Russia disinformation. It wasn't. That

47:41

came from his son, Hunter. It

47:44

wasn't Russia disinformation. He made up the

47:46

suckers and losers. He should apologize to

47:49

me right now. Four-star

47:51

General Sanders side was on your

47:53

staff who said you said it,

47:55

period. That's number one. And

47:57

number two, the idea, the idea that I'm

47:59

not I have to apologize to you for

48:01

anything along the line. We've done more for

48:04

veterans than any president has in American history.

48:06

American history, and they now are in their family,

48:08

the only sacred obligation we have as a country

48:11

is to care for our veterans when they come

48:13

home and their families and equip them when they

48:15

go to war. That's what we're

48:17

doing. That's what the VA is doing now.

48:19

They're doing more for veterans than ever before

48:21

in our history. All right, thank

48:23

you so much. Let's move to the topic

48:26

of foreign policy. I want to begin with

48:28

Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in

48:30

its third year. Former

48:32

President Trump, Russian President Vladimir

48:34

Putin says he'll only end

48:37

this war if Russia

48:39

keeps the Ukrainian territory it has

48:41

already claimed and Ukraine

48:43

abandons its bid to join

48:45

NATO. Are Putin's terms

48:47

acceptable to you? First of all, our

48:50

veterans and our soldiers can't stand

48:52

this guy. They can't stand

48:54

him. They think he's the worst commander in chief,

48:57

that's what you call him, that

48:59

we've ever had. They can't stand him. So let's

49:01

get that straight. And they like me

49:03

more than just about any of them. And

49:06

that's based on every single bit of

49:08

information. As far as Russia and Ukraine,

49:10

if we had a real president, the

49:12

president that knew, that was respected by

49:15

Putin, he would have never,

49:17

he would have never invaded Ukraine. A

49:19

lot of people are dead right now, much more

49:21

than people know. You know, they talk about numbers.

49:23

You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers.

49:26

He did nothing to stop it. In fact, I think

49:28

he encouraged Russia from going in. I'll

49:30

tell you what happened. He was so

49:33

bad with Afghanistan. It was such a

49:35

horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the

49:37

history of our country, that when Putin

49:39

watched that and he saw the incompetence

49:41

that he should have fired those generals,

49:43

like I fired the one that you

49:45

mentioned. And so he's got no love

49:47

loss, but he should have fired those

49:49

generals. No general got fired for the

49:52

most embarrassing moment in the history of

49:54

our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions

49:56

of dollars of equipment behind. We lost

49:58

13 beautiful soldiers. soldiers and

50:00

38 soldiers were obliterated. And by the

50:02

way, we left people behind too. We

50:04

left American citizens behind. When Putin

50:07

saw that, he said, you know what?

50:09

I think we're going to go in

50:11

and maybe take my, this was his

50:13

dream. I talked to him about his

50:15

dream. The difference is he never would

50:17

have invaded Ukraine. Never. Just

50:20

like Israel would have never been invaded

50:23

in a million years by Hamas. You

50:26

know why? Because Iran was broke

50:28

with me. I wouldn't let anybody do business with

50:30

them. They ran out of money. They were broke.

50:33

They had no money for Hamas. They had no

50:35

money for anything. No money for terror. That's why

50:37

you had no terror at all during

50:39

my administration. This place,

50:41

the whole world is blowing up under him. President

50:45

Biden. I've never heard so much

50:47

malarkey in my whole life. Look, the fact of the matter

50:49

is that we're in a situation where let's take the last

50:51

point first. Iran attacked

50:54

American troops, kill, cause

50:56

brain damage for a number of these

50:59

troops. And he did nothing about

51:01

it recently. When he was president, there they

51:03

attacked. He said they're just having headaches. That's

51:05

all it is. He didn't do

51:07

a thing when they attacked took place.

51:09

Number one, number two, we

51:12

got over 100,000 Americans

51:14

and others out of

51:16

Afghanistan during that airlift. Number

51:19

three, we found ourselves in a situation where

51:21

if you take a look at what Trump

51:23

did in Ukraine, he said,

51:25

this guy told Ukraine, told Trump, do

51:28

whatever you want and do whatever you

51:30

want. And that's exactly what

51:32

Trump did to Putin. Encourage

51:34

him, do whatever you want. And he went in

51:36

and listen to what he said when he went

51:38

in. He was going to take Kiev in five

51:41

days. Remember, because it's part of the old Soviet

51:43

Union. That's what he wanted to reestablish. Kiev.

51:46

And he in fact didn't do it at all. He didn't want

51:48

to get it done. And they've lost over.

51:51

They've lost thousands and thousands of troops, 500,000

51:53

troops. President

51:56

Trump, I never said that for one

51:58

minute. I just want to go back

52:00

to my original question. Which is our

52:02

Putin's terms acceptable to you keeping the

52:04

territory in your brand. No, they're not

52:06

acceptable But look, this is

52:08

a war that never should have started if we had

52:10

a leader in this war He led

52:12

everybody along he's given 200 billion

52:15

dollars now or more To

52:17

Ukraine. He's given 200 billion dollars. That's

52:19

a lot of money. I don't think there's ever

52:21

been anything like it every time that Zelensky

52:24

comes to this country walks away with 60

52:26

billion dollars He's the greatest salesman ever and

52:29

I'm not knocking him. I'm not knocking anything.

52:31

I'm only saying The

52:33

money that we're spending on this war

52:36

and we shouldn't be spending it should

52:38

have never happened I will have that

52:40

war settled between Putin and

52:42

Zelensky as President-elect before

52:44

I take office on January 20th. I'll

52:47

have that war settled people

52:49

being killed so needlessly so Stupidly

52:51

and I will get it settled

52:53

and I'll get it settle fast

52:55

before I take office You

52:58

have a minute The

53:00

fact is that Putin is a war criminal. He's

53:03

killed Thousands and thousands of

53:05

people and he has made one

53:07

thing clear He wants to reestablish

53:09

what was part of the Soviet Empire not

53:11

just a piece who wants all of Ukraine

53:14

That's what he wants. And then you think

53:16

you'll stop there. You think you'll stop when

53:18

he would be if he takes Ukraine

53:20

What do you think happens the pole? What do you think?

53:23

Bailers what do you think happens to those NATO

53:25

countries? And so if you want

53:27

a war you ought to find out what he's

53:29

gonna do because if in fact He does what

53:31

he says and walks away By the way all

53:34

that money we give Ukraine and from weapons

53:36

We make here in the United States given

53:38

the weapons not the money at this point

53:41

and then and our NATO allies have produced

53:43

as much Fundament for

53:45

Ukraine as we have that's why it's

53:47

that's why we're strong Thank

53:49

you moving on to the Middle East in

53:52

October Hamas attacked Israel Killing

53:55

more than a thousand people and taking

53:57

hundreds of hostages among those

53:59

held in to still be alive

54:01

are five Americans. Israel's

54:03

response has killed thousands of Palestinians

54:05

and created a humanitarian crisis in

54:08

Gaza. President Biden, you've

54:11

put forward a proposal to

54:13

resolve this conflict, but

54:15

so far Hamas has not released the

54:18

remaining hostages and Israel is continuing

54:20

its military offensive in Gaza. So

54:23

what additional leverage will you use to

54:25

get Hamas and Israel to end the

54:27

war? You have two minutes. Number

54:30

one, everyone from

54:32

the United Nations Security Council

54:36

straight through to the G7, to the

54:38

Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan that

54:40

put forward, endorsed the plan that put

54:42

forward, which has three stages to it. The

54:45

first stage is to trade

54:47

the hostages for a ceasefire.

54:50

Second phase is a ceasefire with additional

54:52

conditions. The third phase is no,

54:54

the end of the war. The only one

54:56

who wants the war to continue is Hamas. Number

54:59

one, they're the only ones standing out. We're

55:01

still pushing hard to

55:03

get them to accept. In the meantime, what's

55:05

happened in Israel, we're finding the

55:08

only thing I've denied Israel was

55:10

2,000 pound bombs. They

55:12

don't work very well in populated areas. They kill

55:14

a lot innocent people. We're providing Israel

55:16

with all the weapons they need and when they need

55:18

them. And by the way, I'm the

55:20

guy that organized the world against Iran

55:22

when they had a full blown intercontinental

55:25

ballistic missile attack on

55:27

Israel. No one was

55:30

hurt. No one Israeli was accidentally

55:32

killed and it stopped.

55:34

We saved Israel. We are the

55:36

biggest producer of support for

55:38

Israel of anyone in the world. And

55:41

so that's, there are two different things. Hamas

55:43

cannot be allowed to be continued. We

55:46

continue to send our experts and our

55:48

intelligence people to how they can get

55:50

Hamas like we did bin Laden. You

55:52

don't have to do it. And by

55:54

the way, they've been greatly weakened Hamas,

55:56

greatly weakened and they should be eliminated.

56:00

you've got to be careful for

56:02

what using certain weapons among population

56:04

centers. Just

56:07

going back to Ukraine for one second. We

56:10

have an ocean separating us. The

56:12

European nations together have spent

56:15

100 billion or maybe

56:17

more than that, less than us. Why

56:20

doesn't he call them, so you got to put up

56:22

your money like I did with NATO. I got them

56:24

to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. The secretary

56:27

general of NATO said Trump did the most incredible job

56:29

I've ever seen. You wouldn't, they wouldn't have any, they

56:31

were going out of business. We were spending almost 100%

56:34

of the money was paid by us. He

56:37

didn't do that. He's getting all, you

56:39

got to ask these people to put up the

56:42

money. We're over a hundred billion dollars more spent

56:44

and it has a bigger impact on them because

56:46

of location, because we have an ocean in between.

56:49

You got to ask them as far as Israel

56:52

and Hamas. Israel's

56:55

the one that wants to go. He said the only

56:57

one that wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually Israel,

57:02

let him go and let him finish. He doesn't want to do it.

57:04

He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like

57:06

him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one.

57:10

President Biden, you have a minute. I've never heard so

57:12

much foolishness. This is a guy who wants to get

57:14

out of NATO. You're going to stay in NATO. He's

57:16

going to pull out of NATO. The idea

57:18

that we have our strength lies

57:21

in our alliances as well. It

57:23

may be a big ocean, but we're ever

57:25

able to avoid a war in Europe, a

57:27

major war in Europe. What happens if in

57:30

fact you have Putin continue to go into

57:32

NATO? We have an article five agreement attack

57:34

on one is attack on all. You want

57:36

to start the nuclear war. He keeps talking

57:38

about, go ahead, let Putin go in and

57:41

control Ukraine and then move on to Poland

57:43

and other places. See what happens then. He

57:45

has no idea what tell he's talking about.

57:47

By the way, I got 50 other

57:50

nations around the world to support

57:52

Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea,

57:54

because they understand that this kind

57:57

of dislocation has a serious threat.

57:59

So the whole world peace. No

58:02

major war in Europe has ever been able to be contained

58:04

just to Europe. President

58:06

Trump, just to follow up, would

58:09

you support the creation of an independent

58:11

Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in

58:13

the region? I'd have to see. But before we do

58:15

that, the problem we have is

58:17

that we spend all the money. So

58:19

they kill us on trade. I made great

58:21

trade deals with the European nations because

58:24

if you add them up, they're about the same

58:26

size economically. Their economy is about

58:28

the same size as the United States. And

58:31

they were no cars. No, they don't want

58:33

anything that we have. But we're supposed to

58:35

take their cars, their food, their everything, their

58:37

agriculture. I changed that. But

58:40

the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay. And

58:42

the only reason that he can play

58:44

games with NATO is because I got

58:46

them to put up hundreds of billions

58:48

of dollars. I said, and he's

58:51

right about this. I said, no, I'm

58:53

not going to support NATO if you don't pay. They

58:55

asked me that question. Would you guard us

58:57

against Russia at a very secret meeting of

58:59

the 28 states

59:01

at that time, nations at that time? And I

59:04

said, no, if you don't pay, I won't

59:06

do that. And you know what happened? Billions

59:08

and billions of dollars came flowing in the

59:10

next day and the next months. But

59:13

now we're in the same position. We're

59:15

paying everybody's bills. Let's turn

59:17

to the issue of democracy. Former President

59:19

Trump, I want to ask you about January 6,

59:22

2021, after you rallied your supporters

59:24

that day. Some of them stormed

59:27

the Capitol to stop the constitutionally

59:29

mandated counting of electoral votes. As

59:31

president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve,

59:33

protect and defend, unquote, the Constitution. What do

59:36

you say to voters who believe that you

59:38

violated that oath through your actions and inaction

59:40

on January 6 and worried that you'll do

59:42

it again? Well, I don't think too many

59:44

believe that. And let me tell you about

59:46

January 6. On January

59:48

6, we had a great border.

59:51

Nobody coming through. Very few. On

59:53

January 6, we were energy independent. On January

59:55

6, we had the lowest taxes ever. We

59:58

had the lowest regulations ever. On

1:00:00

January 6th, we were respected all over the

1:00:02

world. All over the world, we

1:00:05

were respected. And then he comes in and

1:00:07

we're now left at. We're like a bunch

1:00:09

of stupid people. What

1:00:11

happened to the United States' reputation

1:00:13

under this man's leadership is

1:00:16

horrible, including weaponization, which I'm sure at some

1:00:18

point you'll be talking about, where he goes

1:00:21

after his political opponent because he can't beat

1:00:23

him fair and square. You

1:00:25

have 80 seconds left. My question was, what

1:00:27

do you say to those voters who believe

1:00:29

that you violated your constitutional oath

1:00:32

through your actions and an action on

1:00:34

January 6th, 2021 and worry that you'll

1:00:36

do it again? Well, I didn't say

1:00:38

that to anybody. I said peacefully and

1:00:40

patriotically. And Nancy Pelosi, if you just

1:00:43

watched the news from two days ago,

1:00:45

on tape to her daughter, who is

1:00:48

a documentary filmmaker, they say, but

1:00:50

she's saying, oh, no, it's my responsibility.

1:00:53

I was responsible for this because I

1:00:55

offered her 10,000 soldiers or

1:00:57

National Guard and she turned them

1:00:59

down in the mayor of in writing,

1:01:01

by the way, the mayor in writing turned

1:01:03

it down. The mayor of of DC, they

1:01:06

turned it down. I offered 10,000 because

1:01:08

I could see I had virtually

1:01:11

nothing to do. They asked me to go make a

1:01:13

speech. I can see what was happening.

1:01:15

Everybody was saying they're going to be there on January 6th.

1:01:17

They're going to be there. And I said, you know what?

1:01:19

There's a lot of people coming. You could feel it. You

1:01:21

could feel it too. And you could feel it. And I

1:01:24

said, they ought to have some National

1:01:26

Guard or whatever. And I

1:01:28

offered it to her and she now admits

1:01:30

that she turned it down and it was

1:01:32

the same day. She was, I don't know,

1:01:34

he can't be very happy with her daughter

1:01:36

because it made her into a liar. She

1:01:38

said, I take full responsibility for January 6th.

1:01:42

President Biden. Look,

1:01:45

he encouraged those folks to look at Capitol.

1:01:47

Number one, I sat in the

1:01:49

dining room off the Oval Office. He sat there for

1:01:52

three hours, three hours watching,

1:01:54

begging, being begged by his vice president

1:01:57

and a number of his colleagues on

1:01:59

the Republican side as well. to do

1:02:01

something, to call for a stop, to

1:02:03

end it. Instead, they've talked about the

1:02:05

people being patriots and great

1:02:07

patrons of America. In fact, he says

1:02:09

he'll not forgive them for what they've

1:02:11

done. They've been

1:02:14

convicted. He says he wants to commute their

1:02:16

sentences and say that no.

1:02:19

He went to every single court in the nation. I

1:02:21

don't know how many cases, scores

1:02:24

of cases, including Supreme Court, and

1:02:26

they said, they said, no, no,

1:02:28

this guy, this guy is responsible

1:02:30

for doing what is being done.

1:02:32

He did do a damn thing

1:02:35

and these people should be in jail and

1:02:37

they should be the ones who are being

1:02:39

held accountable. And he wants to let them

1:02:41

all out. And now he says that he

1:02:43

loses again such a whiner that he is,

1:02:45

that he could be a bloodbath. Thank you,

1:02:47

President Biden. President Trump? What

1:02:49

they've done to some people that are so

1:02:51

innocent, you ought to be ashamed

1:02:53

of yourself. What you have done, how you've destroyed the

1:02:56

lives of so many people, when

1:02:58

they rip down Portland, when they rip

1:03:00

down many

1:03:02

other cities, you go to Minnesota,

1:03:04

Minneapolis, what they've done there with

1:03:07

the fires all over the city. If I didn't bring

1:03:09

in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed.

1:03:12

When you look at all of the, they

1:03:14

took over big chunks of Seattle. I was all set

1:03:16

to bring in the National Guard. They heard that, they

1:03:19

saw them coming and they left immediately.

1:03:22

What he said about this whole

1:03:24

subject is so off, peacefully

1:03:26

patriotic. One other thing, the

1:03:29

Unselect Committee, which is basically

1:03:32

two horrible Republicans that are all

1:03:34

gone now out of office and

1:03:37

Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and

1:03:39

deleted all of the information they

1:03:41

found because they found out we

1:03:43

were right. We were right

1:03:45

and they deleted and destroyed all of the information. They

1:03:47

should go to jail for that. If a Republican did

1:03:49

that, they'd go to jail. Thank you, President Trump. President

1:03:51

Biden, I want to give you a minute. The

1:03:54

only person in this stage is a convicted felon, is

1:03:56

the man I'm looking at right now. And

1:03:58

the fact of the matter is... He isn't he's

1:04:01

what he's telling you is simply not true The

1:04:03

fact is that there was no effort

1:04:05

on his part to stop what was

1:04:07

going on up in Capitol

1:04:12

Hill and all those people every one of

1:04:14

those who are convicted is turned over desk

1:04:17

Turn them over statutes the idea

1:04:19

that those people are patriots Come

1:04:22

on, and I asked him the

1:04:24

first two debates. We had the debates We had

1:04:26

first time around I said will

1:04:28

you denounce the Proud Boy? He said

1:04:30

no, I'll tell them to stand by The

1:04:33

idea he's refusing to announce

1:04:35

these guys we'd announce the

1:04:37

people we're talking about now We'd announce

1:04:39

the people attack that capital. What

1:04:42

are you gonna do? I'm

1:04:44

gonna give you a minute President

1:04:46

Trump for a follow-up question. I have

1:04:50

After a jury convicted you of 34

1:04:52

felonies last month You said if reelected

1:04:54

you would quote have every right to

1:04:56

go after unquote your political opponents You

1:04:58

just talked about members of the select

1:05:00

committee on January 6 going to jail

1:05:03

Your main political opponent is standing on stage with

1:05:05

you tonight Can you clarify exactly what

1:05:07

it means about you feeling you have every

1:05:09

right to go after your political opponents? Well,

1:05:11

I said my retribution is going to be

1:05:13

success We're gonna make this country successful again

1:05:15

because right now it's a failing nation My

1:05:18

retribution is going to be success But

1:05:21

when he talks about a convicted felon his son

1:05:23

is a convicted felon at a

1:05:25

very high level His son is convicted gonna

1:05:27

be convicted probably numerous other times should have

1:05:29

been convicted before but his justice apartment Let

1:05:31

the statute of limitations lapse on the most

1:05:34

important things But he could be a convicted

1:05:36

felon as soon as he gets out of

1:05:38

office Joe could be a convicted felon with

1:05:40

all of the things that he's done He's

1:05:42

done horrible things all of the death cause

1:05:44

at the border Telling the

1:05:47

Ukrainian people that we're gonna want a

1:05:49

billion dollars or you change the prosecutor

1:05:51

Otherwise, you're not getting a billion dollars.

1:05:53

Have I ever said that that's

1:05:55

quid pro quo that we're

1:05:57

not gonna do anything We're not gonna

1:05:59

give you a $1 million unless you change your

1:06:01

prosecutor having to do with the Sun. This man

1:06:03

is a criminal. This man, you're

1:06:06

lucky. You're lucky. I did nothing wrong. We'd

1:06:08

have a system that was rigged and disgusting.

1:06:10

I did nothing wrong. Thank you, President Trump.

1:06:12

President Biden, you have said, I'm coming right

1:06:14

to you, sir. You, well,

1:06:17

you want to respond? Go ahead. I'll give you a minute to respond. The

1:06:19

idea that I

1:06:21

did anything wrong relative to

1:06:23

what you're talking about is outrageous. It's

1:06:26

simply a lie. Number one. Number

1:06:29

two, the idea that

1:06:31

you have a right to seek retribution

1:06:33

against any American just because your

1:06:36

president is wrong. No

1:06:39

president's ever spoken like that before.

1:06:42

No president in our history has spoken like that before.

1:06:44

Number three, the crimes that

1:06:47

you are still charged with. And think of

1:06:49

all the civil penalties you have. How many

1:06:51

billions of dollars do you owe in

1:06:53

civil penalties for, for molesting

1:06:55

a woman in public for

1:06:58

doing a whole range of things of

1:07:00

having sex with a porn star on the

1:07:02

night while your wife was

1:07:05

pregnant? I mean, what, what are you talking

1:07:07

about? You have

1:07:09

the morals of an alley cat. Give

1:07:12

him that, sir. I didn't have sex with a

1:07:14

porn star. Number one. Number two, that was a

1:07:16

case that was started and moved.

1:07:18

They moved a high ranking official,

1:07:20

a DOJ into the Manhattan DA's office

1:07:23

to start that case. That case is

1:07:25

going to be appealed in one. We

1:07:27

had a very terrible judge,

1:07:29

a horrible judge Democrat. The

1:07:32

prosecutor were all high ranking

1:07:34

Democrats, appointed people and

1:07:36

the, both the civil and

1:07:38

the criminal. He basically went after his political opponent

1:07:40

because he thought it was going to damage me.

1:07:43

But when the public found out about these cases,

1:07:45

they understand him better than he does. He has

1:07:47

no idea what these cases are. But what he

1:07:49

did, when they found out about these cases, you

1:07:51

know, they did. My poll numbers went up way

1:07:54

up. You know that cause you're reporting it. And

1:07:56

we took in more money in the last two

1:07:58

weeks than we've ever taken. in the

1:08:00

history of any campaign, I don't

1:08:02

think any campaign has ever taken. Hundreds

1:08:05

of millions of dollars came pouring in

1:08:07

because the public knows it's a scam

1:08:09

and it's a guy that's after his

1:08:12

political opponent because he can't win fair

1:08:14

and square. Thank you, President Trump. President

1:08:16

Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump

1:08:18

and his MAGA Republicans are determined to

1:08:21

destroy American democracy. Do you

1:08:23

believe that the tens of millions of

1:08:25

Americans who are likely to vote for

1:08:27

President Trump will be voting against American

1:08:29

democracy? The more they know about what

1:08:32

he's done, yes. The more

1:08:34

they know about what he's done. And there's

1:08:36

a lot more coming. He's got a lot of cases around the

1:08:38

road coming around. He's got a whole

1:08:40

range of issues he has to face. I

1:08:42

don't know what the jury's will do, but

1:08:45

I do know he has a real problem. And

1:08:47

so the fact that, could you ever

1:08:49

think you heard any president say that I'm

1:08:51

gonna seek retribution? Did you ever hear any

1:08:54

president say that I thought Hitler had some

1:08:56

good ideas? What got me involved to run

1:08:58

the first place after my son died, I

1:09:00

decided in Iraq because of Iraq, I

1:09:02

said I wasn't gonna run again until I

1:09:05

saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.

1:09:07

People coming out of the woods

1:09:09

carrying swastikas aren't torches, torches. And

1:09:11

seeing the same anti-Semitic bio they

1:09:14

sang when they were back in

1:09:16

Germany. And the young woman got

1:09:18

killed. I spoke to the mother and

1:09:20

they asked him, they said, what

1:09:22

do you think of those people? The people who

1:09:25

got killed, the one who tried to stop it,

1:09:27

and the ones he said, I think they're fine

1:09:29

people on both sides. What

1:09:31

American president would ever say,

1:09:34

Nazis coming out of fields

1:09:36

carrying torches, singing the same

1:09:39

anti-Semitic bio, carrying swastikas, or

1:09:41

fine people? This is a guy

1:09:43

who says Hitler's done some good things. I'd like to know

1:09:46

what they are. The good things Hitler's

1:09:48

done, that's what he said. This guy has

1:09:50

no sense of American democracy. President

1:09:53

Trump. Jake, both of you know that, sir,

1:09:55

has been totally wiped out.

1:09:57

Because when you see the sentence, it said,

1:16:00

to be done. But we've done a great deal so

1:16:02

far and I'm not letting up and they know it.

1:16:05

You have 49 seconds left. What

1:16:07

do you say to black voters who

1:16:10

are disappointed with the progress so far?

1:16:12

I say I don't blame them for

1:16:14

being disappointed. Inflation is still hurting them

1:16:16

badly. For example, I provided for the

1:16:18

idea that any black family

1:16:20

first time homebuyer should get a $10,000

1:16:23

tax credit to be able to buy their first

1:16:25

home so they can get started.

1:16:27

I made sure that we're in a

1:16:30

situation where all those black families and

1:16:32

those black individuals who provided had to

1:16:34

take out student loans that were ballooning.

1:16:37

They had a favor and engaged in nursing,

1:16:41

anything having to do with volunteerism. If

1:16:44

they paid their bills for 10 years and

1:16:46

their student debt, all the rest was

1:16:48

forgiven after 10 years. Millions have benefited

1:16:50

from that and we're going to

1:16:52

do a whole lot more from black families. Thank

1:16:55

you, President Trump. And he

1:16:57

caused the inflation. He's blaming inflation

1:17:00

and he's right, it's been very bad. He

1:17:02

caused the inflation and it's killing black

1:17:04

families and Hispanic families and just about

1:17:07

everybody. It's killing people. They

1:17:09

can't buy groceries anymore. They can't, you

1:17:11

look at the cost of food where

1:17:13

it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled. They

1:17:16

can't live. They're not living anymore. He

1:17:18

caused this inflation. I gave him a

1:17:21

country with no, essentially no inflation. It was

1:17:23

perfect. It was so good. All he had

1:17:26

to do is leave it alone. He destroyed

1:17:28

it with his green new scam and all

1:17:30

of the other, all this money that's being

1:17:32

thrown out the window. He caused inflation. As

1:17:35

sure as you're sitting there, the

1:17:37

fact is that his big

1:17:39

kill on the black people

1:17:41

is the millions of people that he's allowed

1:17:43

to come in through the border. They're taking

1:17:45

black jobs now and it could be 18,

1:17:48

it could be 19 and even

1:17:50

20 million people. They're taking black jobs and

1:17:52

they're taking Hispanic jobs and you haven't seen

1:17:54

it yet, but you're going to see something

1:17:56

that's going to be the worst in our

1:17:58

history. Thank you. of Biden? There

1:18:01

was no inflation when I

1:18:03

became president. You know why? The economy was flat

1:18:05

on its back. 50% unemployment.

1:18:08

He decimated the economy, absolutely decimated

1:18:10

the economy. That's why there was

1:18:12

no inflation at the time. There

1:18:15

were no jobs. We provided

1:18:17

thousands of millions of jobs for individuals

1:18:19

who are involved communities, including minority communities.

1:18:21

We made sure that they have health

1:18:23

insurance. We have covered, if the ACA

1:18:25

has increased, I made sure that they're

1:18:28

$8,000 per person of a family to

1:18:30

get written off in health care. But

1:18:32

this guy wants to eliminate that. They

1:18:34

tried 50 times. He wants to get

1:18:36

rid of the ACA again, and

1:18:39

they're going to try again if they win.

1:18:41

We find ourselves in a position where the

1:18:43

idea that we're not doing it, I

1:18:45

put more, we put more police

1:18:47

on the street than any administration has.

1:18:50

He wants to cut the cops. We're

1:18:52

providing for equity, equity in making sure

1:18:54

people have a shot to

1:18:56

make it. There's a lot going

1:18:59

on, but in inflation, he caused

1:19:01

it by his tremendous malfeasance in

1:19:03

the way he handled the pandemic.

1:19:06

Thank you. Another persistent challenge is

1:19:08

the climate crisis. 2023

1:19:11

was the hottest year in recorded history,

1:19:14

and communities across the country

1:19:16

are confronting the devastating effects of

1:19:18

extreme heat, intensifying wildfires,

1:19:20

stronger hurricanes, and rising sea

1:19:22

levels. Former President Trump,

1:19:25

you've vowed to end your opponent's

1:19:27

climate initiatives, but will you take

1:19:29

any action as president to slow

1:19:32

the climate crisis? Let me just

1:19:34

go back to what he said about the police,

1:19:37

how close the police are to him.

1:19:39

Almost every police group in the nation

1:19:41

from every state is supporting

1:19:44

Donald J. Trump, almost every police

1:19:46

group. And what he's done

1:19:48

to the black population is horrible, including the

1:19:50

fact that for 10 years he called them

1:19:52

super predators. We can't in the 1990s,

1:19:55

we can't forget that super predators was his name,

1:19:57

and he called it to him for 10, and

1:19:59

they've taken great. great offense at it and now they

1:20:01

see it happening. But when they

1:20:03

see what I did for criminal justice

1:20:05

reform and for the historically black colleges

1:20:08

and universities where I funded them

1:20:10

and got them all funded and

1:20:12

the opportunity zones with

1:20:14

Tim, as you know, Tim Scott was

1:20:16

incredible. He did a great job, great

1:20:18

Senator from South Carolina. He came

1:20:20

to me with the idea and it was a great

1:20:23

idea. It's one of the most successful economic development acts

1:20:25

ever in the country, opportunity zones. And

1:20:28

the biggest beneficiary are blacks. And that's

1:20:30

why we have the best numbers

1:20:33

with them in maybe ever.

1:20:35

They're saying ever. I read this morning where

1:20:37

ever the best numbers, he's

1:20:39

lost much of the black

1:20:41

population because he's done a horrible

1:20:44

job for black people. He's also done a

1:20:46

horrible job for Hispanics. But where do you

1:20:48

see these millions of people pouring into our

1:20:50

country and they're going to take the jobs

1:20:53

and it's already started and you haven't seen

1:20:55

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seconds left, President Trump. Will you

1:21:16

take any action as president to

1:21:18

slow the climate crisis? So I

1:21:20

want absolutely immaculate, clean water. And

1:21:23

I want absolutely clean air. And we

1:21:26

had it. We had H2O. We

1:21:28

had the best numbers ever. And

1:21:31

we did, we were using all

1:21:33

forms of energy, all forms, everything. And

1:21:36

yet during my four years,

1:21:38

I had the best environmental numbers

1:21:41

ever. And my top environmental people

1:21:43

gave me that statistic just before I walked on

1:21:45

the stage, actually. I

1:21:48

don't know where the hell he's been. The

1:21:50

idea that he said is true.

1:21:54

I passed the most

1:21:56

extensive climate change legislation

1:21:58

in history. history.

1:22:01

We find ourselves and by the way, black colleges,

1:22:03

I came up with

1:22:05

$15 billion for HBCUs, historic black universities

1:22:07

and colleges, because they don't have those.

1:22:10

They don't have the kind of contributors

1:22:12

that they have to build

1:22:15

these laboratories and all like. Any

1:22:17

black student is capable in college or doing any white

1:22:19

student can do. He doesn't have the money, but now

1:22:21

they'll be able to get those jobs

1:22:23

in high tech. We're in a situation where

1:22:25

the idea that he is claiming

1:22:28

to have done something that had

1:22:30

the cleanest water, the cleanest

1:22:32

water, he had not a damn

1:22:34

thing in the environment. He, out of

1:22:36

the Paris Peace Accord, Climate Accord, I

1:22:39

immediately joined him because if we get

1:22:41

H for 1.5 degrees Celsius

1:22:43

at any one point where there's no way

1:22:45

back, the only existential threat to humanity is

1:22:47

climate change and he didn't do a damn

1:22:49

thing about it. He must undo all that

1:22:51

I've done. The

1:22:53

Paris Accord was going to cost us a

1:22:56

trillion dollars and China nothing

1:22:58

and Russia nothing and India nothing. It

1:23:00

was a ripoff of the United States

1:23:03

and I ended it because I didn't want to

1:23:05

waste that money because they treat us horribly. We

1:23:07

were the only ones who was costing us money.

1:23:09

Nobody else was paying into it and it was

1:23:11

a disaster. But

1:23:14

everything that he said just now, I'll give you an

1:23:16

example. I heard him say before insulin, I'm

1:23:18

the one that got the insulin down for

1:23:20

the seniors. I took care of the seniors.

1:23:22

What he's doing is destroying all of

1:23:24

our medical programs because the migrants coming in,

1:23:26

they want everybody and look I have the

1:23:28

I have the biggest heart on the stage,

1:23:30

I guarantee you that and I

1:23:33

want to take care of people but

1:23:35

we're destroying our country. They're taking over

1:23:37

our schools, our hospitals and they're going

1:23:39

to be taking over Social Security. He

1:23:41

is destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

1:23:47

The idea is that we in

1:23:49

fact, we were the

1:23:52

only ones of consequence. We're not

1:23:54

we're not members of the Paris

1:23:56

Accord. How can we do anything?

1:23:58

We've not able the United States. can't take this

1:24:01

under control. One of the largest

1:24:03

polluters in the world, number one,

1:24:05

are making significant progress. By 2035,

1:24:07

we will have pollution in half.

1:24:09

We have made significant

1:24:11

progress and we continue to

1:24:14

make progress. We set up a climate

1:24:16

core. There's thousands of young people who

1:24:18

will learn how to deal with, just

1:24:20

like Peace Corps, and we're going to,

1:24:22

we're moving in directions that are going

1:24:24

to significantly change the elements of cause

1:24:27

of pollution. But the idea that he

1:24:29

claims that he has the biggest heart

1:24:31

up here and he's really concerned about

1:24:34

pollution and about climate, I've not

1:24:36

seen any indication of that. And

1:24:38

by the way, with regard to

1:24:41

prescription drugs, one company

1:24:44

agreed that they would reduce the price

1:24:46

to $35, which I was calling for

1:24:48

one voluntarily. I made sure

1:24:50

every company in the world, every pharmaceutical

1:24:52

company, cannot have to pay. And by

1:24:55

the way, so

1:24:58

every day millions of Americans struggle just

1:25:00

to make ends meet for many older

1:25:02

Americans. Social security provides a critical lifeline.

1:25:04

President Biden, if nothing is done to

1:25:07

social security, seniors will see their benefits

1:25:09

cut in just over 10 years. Will

1:25:11

you name tonight one specific step that

1:25:14

you're willing to take to keep social

1:25:16

security solvent? Yes, make the very wealth

1:25:18

they began to pay their fresh air.

1:25:21

Right now, everybody making

1:25:24

under $170,000 pays 6% of

1:25:27

their income, of their paycheck, every single time they

1:25:29

get a paycheck from the time the first one

1:25:31

they get when they're 18 years old. The

1:25:34

idea that they're going to, I'm not, I've

1:25:36

been proposing that everybody, they

1:25:38

pay, the millionaires pay

1:25:40

1%, 1%.

1:25:43

So no one after, I would not

1:25:45

raise the cost of social security for anybody

1:25:47

under $400,000. After that,

1:25:49

I began to make the wealthy, began to pay

1:25:51

their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to

1:25:54

be able to guarantee the program for life.

1:25:57

So you still have 82 seconds left. Are

1:25:59

there any other measures that you think that

1:26:01

would be able to help keep Social Security

1:26:03

solvent or is that one enough? Well, that

1:26:05

one enough will keep it solvent, but the

1:26:07

biggest thing I'll do if we defeat this

1:26:10

man because he wants to get

1:26:12

rid of Social Security. He thinks there's plenty

1:26:14

to cut in Social Security. He's wanted to

1:26:16

cut Social Security and Medicare both times. And

1:26:19

if you look at the program put

1:26:21

forward by the House Republican Caucus that

1:26:24

he supports, he's in fact

1:26:26

wanted to cut it as well. The

1:26:28

idea that we don't need to

1:26:30

protect our seniors is ridiculous. We

1:26:33

put, and by the way, American

1:26:35

public has greater health care coverage

1:26:37

today than ever before. And

1:26:40

on the ACA, as I said, you're

1:26:42

in a circumstance where 400,000 people, 40

1:26:44

million people would not

1:26:48

have insurance because they have a preexisting condition.

1:26:50

Only allows them to have that insurance is

1:26:52

the fact that they in fact are part

1:26:54

of the ACA. And by the

1:26:57

way, the other thing is we're in a

1:26:59

situation where I talk about education for black

1:27:02

communities. I've raised the number,

1:27:04

the amount of money for Pell Grants, another

1:27:06

$8,000. So anybody making under $70,000

1:27:08

a year, going to be able to get $15,000 towards

1:27:10

their tuition. He

1:27:15

just doesn't know what he's talking about. Thank

1:27:17

you, President Biden, President Trump. So I've dealt

1:27:19

with politicians all my life.

1:27:22

I've been on this side of the

1:27:24

equation for the last eight years. I've

1:27:27

never seen anybody lie like this guy. He

1:27:30

lies. I've never seen that he could look

1:27:32

you in the face. So about so many other things too.

1:27:35

And we mentioned the laptop. We mentioned

1:27:37

Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Everything

1:27:40

he does is a lie. It's

1:27:42

misinformation and disinformation. The

1:27:45

losers and suckers story that he made up is

1:27:47

a total lie on the military. It's

1:27:49

a disgrace. But social security,

1:27:52

he's destroying it because millions of people

1:27:55

are pouring into our country and they're

1:27:57

putting them onto social security. They're putting

1:27:59

them onto Medicare. They're putting them in

1:28:01

our hospitals. They're taking the place of

1:28:03

our citizens there. What they're doing to

1:28:05

the V.A., to our veterans, is unbelievable.

1:28:07

Our veterans are living in the street,

1:28:09

and these people are living in luxury

1:28:11

hotels. He doesn't know what

1:28:13

he's doing, and it's really

1:28:15

coming back. I've never seen such anger

1:28:18

in our country before. President

1:28:20

Biden? The idea that veterans are not

1:28:22

being taken care of, I told you before. By the

1:28:25

way, when I said suckers and losers, he said he

1:28:27

acknowledged after that he fired that gentleman. That

1:28:29

gentleman got fired because he's the

1:28:32

one that acknowledged that that's what he said. He

1:28:34

was the one standing with Trump when he said

1:28:36

it, number one. Number

1:28:38

two, the idea that we're going to

1:28:40

be in a situation where all these

1:28:42

millions and millions, the way he

1:28:45

talks about it, illegal aliens are coming

1:28:47

into the country and taking away our jobs,

1:28:49

there's a reason why we have the fastest

1:28:51

growing economy in the world, the reason why

1:28:53

we have the most successful economy in the

1:28:55

world. We're doing better than

1:28:57

any other nation in the world. And

1:28:59

by the way, those 15 Nobel laureates he

1:29:01

talked about being phony, those 15 Nobel

1:29:04

laureates, economists, they all said that if

1:29:06

Trump is reelected, we're elected to have

1:29:09

a recession, and inflation is

1:29:11

going to increasingly go up. And

1:29:13

by the way, worst president in

1:29:15

history, 159 presidential scholars voted him

1:29:17

the worst president in the history of the United States of America.

1:29:19

President Biden, thank you so much. Let's

1:29:22

turn to the cost of childcare, which many American families

1:29:24

struggle to afford. President Trump,

1:29:26

both you and President Biden have tried

1:29:28

to address this issue. But the

1:29:30

average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more

1:29:32

than $11,000 a year per child. For

1:29:36

many families, the cost of childcare for two

1:29:38

children is more than their rent. In

1:29:41

your second term, what would you do to

1:29:43

make childcare more affordable? Just

1:29:46

to go back, the general got fired because

1:29:48

he was no good. And if

1:29:50

he said that, that's why he made it up. But we

1:29:53

have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and

1:29:55

they're very highly respected, much more so than him. The

1:29:57

other thing is, he... He

1:30:00

doesn't fire people. He never

1:30:02

fired people. I've never seen him fire anybody. I

1:30:04

did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he

1:30:06

was no good. I fired a lot of the

1:30:08

top people at the FBI. I drained the swamp.

1:30:10

They were no good. Not easy to fire people.

1:30:12

You'd pay a price for it, but they were

1:30:14

no good. I inherited these people. I didn't put

1:30:16

him that input. Call me there. He was no

1:30:18

good. I fired him. This guy hasn't fired anybody.

1:30:20

He never fires. He should have

1:30:22

fired every military man that was

1:30:25

involved with that Afghan, the

1:30:27

Afghanistan horror show, the

1:30:29

most embarrassing moment in the history of our

1:30:31

country. He didn't fire. Did

1:30:33

you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that's on

1:30:36

the border that's allowed us to have the worst

1:30:38

border in the history of the world? Did anybody

1:30:40

get fired for allowing 18 million

1:30:42

people, many from prisons, many

1:30:44

from, from mental institutions? Did you

1:30:46

fire anybody that allowed our country

1:30:49

to be destroyed? Joe,

1:30:51

our country is being destroyed as you and I

1:30:53

sit up here and waste a lot of time

1:30:55

on this debate. This shouldn't be a debate. He's

1:30:58

the worst president. He just said about me because

1:31:00

I said it. But look, he's the worst president

1:31:02

in the history of our country. He's destroyed our

1:31:04

country. Now all of a sudden he's trying to

1:31:06

get a little tough on the border. He come

1:31:09

out, came out with a nothing,

1:31:11

a nothing deal and it reduced it

1:31:13

a little bit, a little bit like

1:31:15

this much. It's insignificant. He wants open

1:31:17

borders. He wants our country to either

1:31:20

be destroyed or he wants to pick

1:31:22

up those people as voters. And

1:31:25

I don't think we just can't let

1:31:27

it happen. If he wins this election,

1:31:29

our country doesn't have a chance, not

1:31:31

even a chance of coming

1:31:34

out of this rut. We probably won't have

1:31:36

a country left anymore. That's how bad it

1:31:38

is. He is the worst in history by

1:31:40

far. Thank you, president Trump. President

1:31:42

Biden. We are the most admired country in

1:31:44

the world with the United States of America.

1:31:47

There's nothing beyond our capacity. You're the finest

1:31:49

military in the history of the world, the

1:31:51

finest in the history of the world. No

1:31:54

one thinks we're weak. No one wants

1:31:56

to screw around with us. Nobody. Number

1:31:58

one, number two. The idea

1:32:00

that we're talking about worst presidents. I

1:32:03

wasn't joking. Look it up. Go online.

1:32:06

159 or 58 don't hold me the

1:32:08

exact number. Presidential historians,

1:32:10

they've had meetings, and they voted,

1:32:13

who's the worst president in American

1:32:15

history, best to worst.

1:32:17

They said he was the worst in

1:32:19

all of American history. That's a fact.

1:32:22

That's not conjecture. He can argue

1:32:24

they're wrong, but that's what they voted. The

1:32:26

idea that he is knowing, doing anything to

1:32:29

deal with child care. He

1:32:31

did very virtually nothing to child care.

1:32:33

We should significantly increase the child care

1:32:35

tax credit. We should significantly increase the

1:32:37

availability of women and men or single

1:32:40

parents to be able to go back

1:32:42

to work. And we should encourage

1:32:44

businesses to hold, to have. Thank you, President Biden.

1:32:46

President Trump, the question was about what would you

1:32:48

do to make child care more affordable if you

1:32:50

want to take your minute? Just so you understand,

1:32:54

we have polling. We have other things that

1:32:56

they rate them the worst. Because what he's

1:32:58

done is so bad. And they

1:33:00

rate me, I'll show you. I will show you. And they

1:33:02

rate me one of the best, OK? And

1:33:05

if I'm given another four years, I will be

1:33:07

the best. I think I'll be the best. Nobody's

1:33:10

ever created an economy

1:33:12

like us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us.

1:33:15

He's the only one I know. He wants

1:33:17

to raise your taxes by four times. He

1:33:19

wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times.

1:33:21

He wants to trump tax cuts to expire.

1:33:24

So everybody, including the two of you, are

1:33:26

going to pay four to five times. Nobody

1:33:28

ever heard of this before. All my life,

1:33:30

I'd grow up and I see politicians talking

1:33:33

about cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as

1:33:35

I said, we did more business. Apple and

1:33:37

all these companies, they were bringing money

1:33:40

back into our country. The

1:33:42

worst president in history by far, and everybody

1:33:44

knows it. President Biden? Look,

1:33:46

the fact of the matter is

1:33:48

that he's dead wrong about. He's

1:33:50

increased the tariff. He's increased, he

1:33:52

will increase the taxes on middle

1:33:54

class people. I said I'd never

1:33:56

raise a tax upon anybody. I'm making less than $400,000.

1:34:00

Didn't this tariff is 10% tariffs everything

1:34:02

coming in the country. You know what

1:34:04

their economists say that's gonna cost the

1:34:06

average American $2,500

1:34:09

a year more because they're gonna have to

1:34:12

pay the difference in food and

1:34:14

all the things that are important number

1:34:16

two He's in a situation

1:34:18

where he talks about how he is

1:34:20

not raised He

1:34:23

somehow helped the middle class Little

1:34:25

class have been devastated by you now

1:34:27

You want a new tax cut of

1:34:30

five trillion dollars over the next ten

1:34:32

years? Which is going to fundamentally bankrupt

1:34:34

the country you have the largest deficit

1:34:36

of any president American history number one

1:34:38

number two You have not in fact

1:34:41

made any contact any any

1:34:43

any progress with China We

1:34:46

are the lowest trade deficit with China since

1:34:48

2010. Thank you, President President

1:34:51

but let's introduce discuss an epidemic impacting millions

1:34:53

of Americans that both of you have made

1:34:55

a top priority in your first term the

1:34:58

opioid crisis and for both of you

1:35:01

the number of Overdose deaths

1:35:03

in this country has gone up under your

1:35:05

term. It went up under your term It

1:35:07

has gone up a former president

1:35:10

Trump despite the efforts that both of you

1:35:12

have made more than a hundred thousand Americans

1:35:14

are dying From overdoses every year primarily from

1:35:16

fentanyl and other opioids What will you do

1:35:19

to help Americans right now in the throes

1:35:21

of addiction who are struggling to get the

1:35:23

treatment they need? to

1:35:25

finish up We now

1:35:27

have the largest deficit in the history of our

1:35:29

country under this guy. We have

1:35:31

the largest deficit with China He

1:35:34

gets paid by China. He's a Manchurian candidate.

1:35:36

He gets money from China We

1:35:38

have so I think he's afraid to deal with over something

1:35:41

But do you notice he never took out my

1:35:43

tariffs because we bring in so much money with

1:35:45

the tariffs that I imposed on China He

1:35:47

never took him away. He can't because it's too

1:35:49

much money. It's tremendous and we saved our steel

1:35:51

industries And there was more to come but he

1:35:54

hasn't done that But he

1:35:56

hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't

1:35:58

because it's too much money, but he's

1:36:00

got the largest deficit in the history

1:36:02

of our country. And he's got the

1:36:04

worst situation with China. China is going

1:36:06

to own us if you keep allowing

1:36:09

them to do what they're doing

1:36:11

to us as a country. They are killing

1:36:13

us as a country, Joe, and you can't

1:36:15

let that happen. You're destroying our country. So,

1:36:18

President Trump, you have 67 seconds left. The

1:36:20

question was, what are you going to do

1:36:22

to help Americans in the throes of addiction

1:36:24

right now who are struggling to get the

1:36:26

treatment they need? Jake, we were doing very

1:36:28

well at addiction until the COVID came along.

1:36:30

We had the two and a half, almost

1:36:32

three years of like nobody's ever had before

1:36:34

any country in every way. And

1:36:36

then we had to get tough. And it was

1:36:38

the drugs pouring across the border where

1:36:41

it started to increase.

1:36:43

We got great equipment. We bought the certain

1:36:45

dog. That's the most incredible thing that you've

1:36:47

ever seen, the way they can spot it.

1:36:50

We did a lot. And we had, we

1:36:52

were getting very low numbers, very, very low

1:36:54

numbers. Then he came along. The numbers, have

1:36:56

you seen the numbers now? It's not only

1:36:58

the 18 million people that I believe is

1:37:00

even low because they got a ways, they

1:37:03

don't even talk about got a ways. But

1:37:06

the numbers of the amount

1:37:08

of drugs and human traffic in women

1:37:11

coming across our border, the worst thing

1:37:13

I've ever seen at

1:37:15

numbers that nobody's ever seen under him because the

1:37:17

border is so bad. But

1:37:19

the number of drugs coming across our

1:37:21

border now is the largest we've

1:37:24

ever had by far. President Trump, thank you.

1:37:26

President Biden. Fentanyl and the byproducts

1:37:28

of fentanyl went down for a while.

1:37:31

And I wanted to make sure we use them

1:37:33

machinery that can detect fentanyl. These big machines that

1:37:35

roll over everything that comes across the border. And

1:37:38

it costs a lot of money. That was part

1:37:40

of this deal we put together. This bipartisan deal,

1:37:43

more fentanyl machines, more, more be

1:37:45

able to detect drugs, more, more

1:37:47

of a numbers of agents,

1:37:50

more numbers of all the people

1:37:52

at the border. And when we had

1:37:54

that deal done, he went, he called his

1:37:57

Republican colleagues and don't do it. It's going to hurt

1:37:59

me. No, he never

1:38:01

argued it's not a good bill. It's a really

1:38:03

good bill. We need those machines.

1:38:05

We need those machines. And we're coming down

1:38:07

very hard in every country in Asia in

1:38:10

terms of precursors from fentanyl. And Mexico is

1:38:12

working with us to make sure they don't

1:38:14

have the technology to be able to put

1:38:16

it together. That's what we

1:38:18

have to do. We need those machines. Thank

1:38:21

you, President Biden, President Trump. And again, the question

1:38:23

is about Americans in the throes

1:38:25

of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment

1:38:27

they need. Just because this

1:38:29

does pertain to it. He ended

1:38:31

remain in Mexico. He

1:38:33

ended catch and release. I made a catch and

1:38:35

release in Mexico, not catch and release here. We

1:38:38

had so many things that we had done,

1:38:40

hard negotiations with Mexico. And I got it

1:38:42

all for nothing. It's just like

1:38:44

when he have a hostage. We always pay $6

1:38:47

billion for every time we say it's a hostage.

1:38:49

Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal

1:38:51

reporter. I think a good

1:38:53

guy. And he's over there

1:38:56

because Putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking

1:38:58

for big news. Billions of dollars for

1:39:00

the reporter. I will have him out

1:39:03

very quickly. As soon as I take

1:39:05

office before I take office, I said

1:39:08

by literally as soon as

1:39:10

I win the election, I will have that reporter

1:39:12

out. He should have had him out a long

1:39:14

time ago. But Putin's probably asking for billions and

1:39:17

billions of dollars because this guy pays it every

1:39:19

time. We had two cases. We

1:39:21

paid $6 billion for five people. I

1:39:23

got 58 people out and I

1:39:25

paid essentially nothing. Thank

1:39:28

you, President Trump. Dana. Let's

1:39:30

turn to concerns that voters have about each of you. President

1:39:33

Biden, you would be 86 at

1:39:36

the end of your second term. How

1:39:38

do you address concerns about

1:39:40

your capability to handle the toughest job

1:39:42

in the world well into your 80s?

1:39:46

Well, first of all, I spent half

1:39:48

my career being

1:39:50

criticized as being the youngest person in

1:39:52

politics. I was the second youngest person

1:39:55

ever elected to the United States Senate. Now

1:39:57

I'm the oldest. This guy's three years younger.

1:40:00

less competent. I think that just

1:40:02

look at the record. Look at what I've done. Look,

1:40:04

I've turned around the horrible situation you left me. As

1:40:06

I said, 15 million new jobs, 800,000

1:40:09

manufacturing jobs, more investment in America,

1:40:12

over millions, billions of dollars in

1:40:15

private investment in enterprises

1:40:17

that we are growing. By the way, we brought

1:40:19

an awful lot of people, the

1:40:22

whole idea of computer chips. We used to

1:40:25

have 40% of the market. We invented those

1:40:27

chips and we lost it

1:40:29

because he was sending people to find

1:40:32

the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring

1:40:34

home a product. So I went to

1:40:36

South Korea. I convinced Samsung to invest

1:40:38

billions of dollars here in the United

1:40:41

States. And guess what?

1:40:43

Those fabs, they call to build

1:40:45

these chips. Those fabs pay over

1:40:47

$100,000. You don't need a college

1:40:51

degree for them. And there's billions,

1:40:53

about $40 billion already being invested

1:40:55

and being built right now in

1:40:57

the United States, creating significant jobs

1:40:59

for Americans from all over the

1:41:02

world. President Biden, you have 40 seconds

1:41:04

left. Would you like to add anything? Yeah, I would.

1:41:07

The idea that somehow we

1:41:10

are this failing country. I've never

1:41:12

heard a president talk like this before.

1:41:15

We're the envy of the world. Name

1:41:17

me a single major country president who

1:41:19

wouldn't trade places with the United States

1:41:21

of America for all our problems and

1:41:24

all our opportunities. We're the most

1:41:26

progressive country in the world in getting things done. We're

1:41:29

the strongest country in the world. We're a

1:41:31

country in the world who keeps our word

1:41:33

and everybody trusts us, all of our allies

1:41:35

and our, and our, and our, those who

1:41:37

he calls up to from Kim Jong Il,

1:41:40

he sends love letters to him, Putin, et

1:41:42

cetera. They don't want to screw around with

1:41:44

us. Thank you. Former

1:41:46

president Trump, to follow up, you would be

1:41:49

82 at the end of your second term.

1:41:51

What do you say to voters who

1:41:53

have concerns about your capabilities to serve?

1:41:56

Well I took two tests, cognitive tests. I aced

1:41:58

them, both of them, as you know. We

1:42:00

made it public. He took none. I'd like to see

1:42:02

him take one. Just one a real easy one I

1:42:05

go through the first five questions you couldn't do it,

1:42:07

but I took two cognitive tests I

1:42:09

took physical exams every year and

1:42:12

you know, we knock on wood wherever we

1:42:14

may have would that I'm in

1:42:16

very good health I just won two club

1:42:18

championships not even senior two regular club championships

1:42:20

to do that You have to be quite

1:42:23

smart and you have to be able to hit the ball

1:42:25

a long way and I do it He doesn't do it.

1:42:28

He can't hit a ball 50 yards. He challenged me to

1:42:30

a golf match. He can't hit a ball 50 yards I

1:42:33

think I'm in very good shape. I feel that I'm as

1:42:35

in good shape as I was 25-30

1:42:37

years ago actually I'm probably a little bit lighter,

1:42:40

but I'm in as good a shape as I was

1:42:44

Years ago. I feel very good. I feel the same but

1:42:46

I took I was willing to take a cognitive test and

1:42:48

you know What if I didn't do well, I aced him

1:42:51

Dr. Ronnie Jackson who's a

1:42:53

great guy when he was White House doctor And then I

1:42:55

took another one a similar one and

1:42:57

both one of them said they'd never seen anybody

1:43:00

ace him. Thank you President Biden

1:43:03

you can see he is six foot five and only

1:43:06

223 pounds or 23 to five pounds Well,

1:43:09

you said six four two hundred Anyway,

1:43:13

that's it. You're anyway, just take

1:43:15

a look at what he says He is and take a look at

1:43:17

what he is. Look, I'd be happy to have

1:43:19

a driving contest with him Reem I

1:43:21

got my handicap which when I was

1:43:23

vice president down to a six And

1:43:27

by the way, I told you before I'm happy to

1:43:29

play golf if you carry your own bag Think

1:43:32

you can do it He's

1:43:35

a six handicap of all I was

1:43:38

a handicap. Yeah, hey But

1:43:41

I haven't you know, I've seen this way that I

1:43:43

know you swing Let's

1:43:47

not act like children Specific

1:43:50

concern that voters have about you

1:43:53

Will you pledge tonight that

1:43:55

once all legal challenges have been

1:43:57

exhausted that you will accept? stupid

1:48:00

decisions. Russia would have never

1:48:02

attacked. The question

1:48:04

was, will you accept the results of

1:48:06

the election, regardless of who wins? Yes

1:48:08

or no, please. If it's

1:48:11

a fair and legal and good election.

1:48:13

Absolutely. I would have much rather accepted

1:48:15

these. But the the fraud and everything

1:48:18

else was ridiculous. And if you want,

1:48:20

we'll have a news conference on it

1:48:22

in a week. I will have another

1:48:24

one of these on in a week.

1:48:27

But I will absolutely there's

1:48:29

nothing I'd rather do. It would be

1:48:32

much easier for me to do that.

1:48:34

Then I'm running again. I wasn't really

1:48:36

going to run until I

1:48:38

saw the horrible job he did. He's

1:48:41

destroying our country. I would be very

1:48:43

happy to be someplace else in a

1:48:45

nice location someplace. And again, no

1:48:48

indictments, no political opponents stuff, because it's

1:48:50

the only way he thinks he can

1:48:52

win. But unfortunately, it's driven up by

1:48:54

numbers and driven them up to a

1:48:56

very high level is the people understand

1:48:58

it. Let's see what your numbers are.

1:49:00

And selection is over. Let's

1:49:02

see. You're a whiner. When you

1:49:04

lost the first time you see

1:49:06

you continued your appeal and appeal

1:49:08

to courts all across the country.

1:49:10

Not one single court in America

1:49:13

said any of your claims that

1:49:15

any merit state or local none,

1:49:18

but you continue to provoke this

1:49:21

lie about somehow there's all this misrepresentation,

1:49:23

all this stealing. There is no reason

1:49:25

to there's no evidence of that at

1:49:28

all. And I tell you

1:49:30

what, I doubt whether you'll accept

1:49:32

it because you're such a whiner. Yeah,

1:49:34

if you lose again, you accepted anything.

1:49:36

You can't stand the loss something snapped

1:49:39

and you wouldn't have lost the last time. We'll

1:49:42

be right back with more

1:49:44

from the CNN presidential debate. No,

1:49:46

you can all smoke. Okay. Okay.

1:49:49

Well, we wait for them to

1:49:51

get back. I just scribble some things. Okay. So

1:49:53

first of all, the golf comet, that

1:49:55

is the mentality of a five year

1:49:57

old. And that's what Biden brought. That's

1:50:01

all you add. Talking about it is

1:50:03

handicap. We know your handicap, Joe. You

1:50:06

look like you've just had a stroke.

1:50:08

Right? Let's just be fair. Another

1:50:10

thing. What the heck? Black children

1:50:12

get this. Black people get this.

1:50:14

Black people get that. They're

1:50:17

the only one suffering. I'm sorry.

1:50:20

I'm Olive. Right?

1:50:22

I'm Greek. Right? And I'm struggling,

1:50:24

you know, to pay bills. All of

1:50:26

us are. What

1:50:28

I used to get for $100 under

1:50:30

Trump was three times as much as

1:50:32

what I get now. Right?

1:50:35

So that was ridiculous. Another one, he's

1:50:37

like, Oh, I gave black families $10,000

1:50:39

so they can buy a house. Why

1:50:42

didn't I get $10,000? Oh, I was

1:50:44

the wrong skin color, according to

1:50:47

Joe. Right? This is what they

1:50:49

do. They buy your votes. They

1:50:52

buy their votes to what? Enslave them,

1:50:54

fill up their jail. Because that's what

1:50:56

they do. He calls them.

1:50:59

I'm not even gonna repeat it. But

1:51:01

they all want to bring them to heal.

1:51:04

Right? And that's the way it is.

1:51:06

The other one. Did

1:51:08

you guys hear him? swallow?

1:51:11

Like tell me because I'm wearing a headset.

1:51:15

And it's noise canceling. And

1:51:17

I'm like, what was that? He

1:51:20

swallowed really, really hard.

1:51:22

So that was interesting. The

1:51:26

other one, what the heck is

1:51:28

thousand of millions of jobs. This

1:51:30

guy's making up numbers

1:51:33

now. Right? To suit whatever he

1:51:35

wants. And I have

1:51:38

to say, President Trump hit it.

1:51:41

You know, misinformation and disinformation. And

1:51:44

that's not only from the left,

1:51:46

it's coming from the right. He

1:51:48

said with the Russia hoax with

1:51:50

Ukraine, missed and disinformation, which is

1:51:53

key because that's coming down the

1:51:55

pipeline. And then, and then, I

1:51:58

told you they're gonna hit on the age. I

1:52:00

told you that was going to be a topic

1:52:02

because they need to get rid of Biden. I

1:52:05

said this years ago that they're going to bring gap. Now

1:52:09

he appears during the debate. Oh, I'm

1:52:11

just here is like helping out with

1:52:13

the campaign. Yeah, because when whatever happens

1:52:15

to Joe, oh, and he's out, you

1:52:17

just slide right in saying, well, I'm

1:52:19

a good understudy. So yeah,

1:52:21

that's good. You know, that's basically

1:52:23

what it is. And,

1:52:27

and you know, what's crazy is that

1:52:29

everybody can see this. There

1:52:31

is no way someone on the left

1:52:34

is in. I'm we're watching the Palestinian

1:52:36

protesters, the climate changers and all their

1:52:38

journalists. Right. And they're saying how Joe

1:52:41

is doing horribly and we need to

1:52:43

get rid of him. They're

1:52:46

the only ones that can actually get him

1:52:48

in because they're the bullies to bully people.

1:52:50

They're the ones that hate their skin color.

1:52:53

You know, the well, right

1:52:55

outside the debate stage, they've got a

1:52:57

couple of groups there. He's actually going

1:52:59

into New York tomorrow and they're going

1:53:01

to ambush him at some LGBTQ thing.

1:53:04

Like nobody wants him in. This

1:53:07

is why this is the only debate left

1:53:10

and they're back. Closing statements

1:53:12

as predetermined by a coin toss.

1:53:14

We're going to begin with you,

1:53:16

President Biden. You have two minutes.

1:53:22

We've made significant progress

1:53:25

from the debacle that was left by

1:53:27

President Trump. And it is last

1:53:29

term. We find

1:53:32

ourselves in a situation where, number one, we

1:53:34

have to make sure that we have a fair tax system.

1:53:39

I ask anyone out there in the audience, anyone

1:53:42

out watching this debate, do

1:53:44

you think the tax system is fair? The

1:53:47

fact is that I said nobody

1:53:49

would make it under $400,000 had a single penny increasing

1:53:54

their taxes and if

1:53:56

I'm reelected, that would be the case again. But

1:53:59

this guy is. has increased your

1:54:01

taxes because of deficit. Number

1:54:03

one, he's increased inflation because of the

1:54:05

debacle he left after when he

1:54:08

handled the pandemic. And he finds

1:54:10

himself in a position where he now wants to

1:54:12

tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on

1:54:14

everything that comes into the United States of America.

1:54:17

What I did, when for example, he

1:54:19

wants to get rid

1:54:21

of the ability of Medicare for

1:54:25

the ability for

1:54:28

us to be able to negotiate drug prices with

1:54:30

a big pharma companies. Well,

1:54:33

guess what? We got it down

1:54:35

to $35 for insulin instead of $400. No

1:54:41

more than $2,000 for every senior, no

1:54:45

matter how much they need. You

1:54:48

know what that did? That reduced the federal

1:54:50

debt by $160 billion over

1:54:55

10 years because the government doesn't have to

1:54:57

pay the exorbitant prices. I'm gonna

1:54:59

make that available to every senior all

1:55:02

along, it's happening now, and

1:55:04

everybody in America, he wants to get rid of

1:55:06

that. We have, I gotta

1:55:09

make sure that we have childcare. We're

1:55:11

gonna significantly increase the credits people have

1:55:13

for childcare. I'm gonna

1:55:15

make sure we do something about what we're

1:55:17

doing on lead pipes and all the things

1:55:19

that are causing health problems

1:55:22

for people across the country. We're

1:55:24

gonna continue to fight to bring down inflation

1:55:28

and give people a break. Thank you,

1:55:31

President Biden, President Trump. You now have two minutes

1:55:33

for your closing statement. Like so

1:55:35

many politicians, this man is just

1:55:37

a complainer. He said, we wanna do this, we

1:55:39

wanna do that. We wanna get rid of this

1:55:41

tax, that tax. But he doesn't do

1:55:43

anything. He doesn't, only does

1:55:45

this make our country unsafe by

1:55:47

allowing millions and millions of people to

1:55:50

pour in. Our military doesn't

1:55:52

respect him. We look like fools in

1:55:54

Afghanistan. We didn't

1:55:56

stop Israel. It was such a

1:55:58

horrible thing that would have never. debate

1:58:01

points and if they're actually honest.

1:58:03

But let's just say

1:58:05

that what was

1:58:07

really weird and it's silent on

1:58:10

their end by the way, Biden

1:58:14

said that President Trump increased

1:58:16

using up this. The

1:58:21

president, former president making their way

1:58:23

off the CNN debate stage like

1:58:26

Joe Biden the first time. All right,

1:58:28

so that's all I wanted to say that

1:58:30

Joe Biden said that President

1:58:33

Trump was the one

1:58:35

that increased everything. President Trump allegedly

1:58:38

has not been president for

1:58:40

about four years. So I don't know how

1:58:42

he did all that without being president. Let's

1:58:44

take a commercial break. Party

1:59:40

strategists, it involves elected officials,

1:59:43

it involves fundraisers, and

1:59:45

they're having conversations about the president's performance, which

1:59:47

they think was dismal, which they think will

1:59:49

hurt other people down the party in the

1:59:51

ticket. And they're having conversations about what they

1:59:53

should do about it. Some of those conversations

1:59:56

include should we go to the White House

1:59:58

and ask the president step aside. Others are.

2:00:00

other of the conversations are about, should prominent

2:00:02

Democrats go public with that call? Because

2:00:05

they feel this debate was so terrible. They

2:00:07

do say, in moments in the debate later, the

2:00:10

president got better and got his footing, but then

2:00:12

at the end, even his closing statement was a

2:00:14

little halting. The contrast between the two candidates. Let

2:00:16

me be clear, none of them, and a lot

2:00:18

of Republicans, don't think Donald Trump

2:00:20

had a great night. Donald Trump broke the fact

2:00:22

check machine more than I can count tonight. That

2:00:24

will be on the record as we go forward.

2:00:27

He refused to answer some very specific and direct

2:00:29

questions about his conduct, about January 6th and what

2:00:31

all. So that will be dealt with out there.

2:00:33

And sometimes there's a parallel universe between the political

2:00:35

elites and the American people. It'd be nice to

2:00:37

see what the voters say, but I can tell

2:00:40

you, it started minutes in. It started with the

2:00:42

first couple of answers and it has continued throughout

2:00:44

the night from, oh my God, oh my God,

2:00:46

oh my God, to what do we do about

2:00:48

this? And it involves very senior people in the

2:00:51

Democratic Party, including elected officials, saying we have a

2:00:53

problem. And just to cosign what John is saying,

2:00:55

I mean, the panic that I am hearing

2:00:57

from Democrats is not like anything that I have

2:00:59

heard in this campaign so far.

2:01:02

And a lot of it has to do with, first

2:01:04

of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies.

2:01:06

I mean, he lied a lot tonight. But

2:01:09

the problem for Biden was that Trump was

2:01:11

able to take some

2:01:13

sometimes incredible falsehoods and

2:01:15

turn them into some kind of

2:01:18

argument, whereas Biden's answers were in

2:01:20

a lot of cases, not coherent,

2:01:23

deeply problematic that he was able to

2:01:25

take pretty straightforward

2:01:27

answers and answer them to

2:01:30

the American public. And then also at some point.

2:01:32

So I let it go like a couple minutes

2:01:34

so we can pause and then fast forward over

2:01:36

the stupid shit. So I was

2:01:38

right again. This debate was just

2:01:41

to get rid of Joe. We pressured them

2:01:43

when I sent that letter to

2:01:45

my legislators in Ohio. You

2:01:47

see, you can always move the needle with

2:01:50

just a tiny little letter. You can always

2:01:52

move the needle, tiny, tiny, tiny. So here's

2:01:54

where Gavin Newsom makes his end trends. And

2:01:57

it's exactly like I said, they need.

2:02:00

the debate in order to be like,

2:02:02

look, we're really concerned. Like we really

2:02:04

like him, but we need someone else

2:02:07

because it wasn't a good debate. And

2:02:09

then this chick, oh, he's skewing things.

2:02:11

It's like totally lies. But

2:02:13

he was making total sense and he was speaking the truth.

2:02:16

Now let's see what else they would like to tell us. Points,

2:02:20

bringing things up that teed up

2:02:22

Trump attacks. So there's a

2:02:25

real concern here tonight that there's

2:02:27

been some real damage done that

2:02:29

cannot be undone. Biden

2:02:31

solidified the perception among

2:02:34

voters, but especially among his

2:02:36

base, they

2:02:39

were hoping that tonight would be a game changer. They

2:02:41

are now seeing a president

2:02:45

who is in the White House, who they

2:02:47

do not necessarily believe can

2:02:49

can do this for another four years. David

2:02:51

Axelrod. Look, I

2:02:54

can't argue with either

2:02:56

of them about how a Democrat

2:02:59

leader is democratic leaders are reacting

2:03:01

to this poll. We

2:03:03

said at the beginning that each

2:03:05

person had a fundamental goal. And

2:03:07

for Biden, that goal was to

2:03:09

appear energetic, engaged, and look like

2:03:11

someone who is capable of serving

2:03:13

for another four years for president.

2:03:15

That was job number one. I

2:03:18

actually think he scored a bunch of points.

2:03:20

I think if you just judge this on

2:03:22

sort of policy stuff, he

2:03:25

did score a bunch of points on

2:03:27

issues like abortion, for example, on some

2:03:29

of the economic issues. But

2:03:34

there is a there is a feeling. OK,

2:03:36

this putz is trying to make something good

2:03:39

out of what we just saw. If

2:03:41

you notice during the speech that

2:03:43

he was giving, he was constantly

2:03:46

reiterating talking points. He repeated the

2:03:48

same things again and again. You

2:03:51

know, it was really bad. It was

2:03:54

horrific. Gosh, this guy is really pushing

2:03:56

it. They just came out breaking on

2:03:58

CNN. says,

2:04:00

we don't want you anymore. You know, sometimes

2:04:02

you have to show people so they know.

2:04:05

And this is why he said it was extremely

2:04:07

unnecessary. We should just let them pull the trigger

2:04:09

in another way. But hey, we

2:04:11

got it this way so that way they can have

2:04:13

an excuse. I said, well, you know, we felt

2:04:16

like he felt flat. We don't kind of

2:04:18

like it. So we're going to get rid

2:04:21

of Joe. Not like we were planning it

2:04:23

for years. And this is why when Joe

2:04:25

was in the way Gavin Newsom was at

2:04:27

the White House and he had Eleni Kulanakis

2:04:30

taking over in California. Let's remember that, right?

2:04:32

Because they're all pretending like we don't know

2:04:34

and we can't see. So let's listen to

2:04:37

this. Gosh, it must be embarrassing to be

2:04:39

his friend, this dude's friend and

2:04:41

family, because they're going to be like, oh my

2:04:43

gosh, he actually tried to save that. I

2:04:46

think there was a sense of shock, actually, how

2:04:48

he came out at the beginning of this debate,

2:04:51

how his voice sounded about,

2:04:53

you know, he seemed a little disoriented.

2:04:55

He did get stronger as the debate

2:04:57

went on. But by that time, I

2:05:00

think the panic had set in. And I

2:05:02

think you're going to hear discussions that

2:05:04

I don't know will lead

2:05:06

to anything. But, you know, there is

2:05:08

a good there are going to be

2:05:10

discussion about whether he should continue. And

2:05:12

I think part of it is Donald

2:05:14

Trump did not meet his mission either.

2:05:16

He could not resist

2:05:18

the attempt the

2:05:21

temptation to be nasty,

2:05:23

to prevaricate about a

2:05:25

whole bunch of things about

2:05:28

his own record about Biden's record. You

2:05:30

know what? No, he didn't. Because when they were talking

2:05:33

about drugs and saying, what are you going to do

2:05:35

about it? President Trump should have turned around and said,

2:05:37

you know what, we should ask Joe, because he's the

2:05:39

one that has cocaine in the White House. You know,

2:05:41

I would if I was on his team, I would

2:05:43

have written that shit in. I would have been like,

2:05:45

if they say anything about drugs, throw it in that

2:05:48

his White House has cocaine. Right.

2:05:50

Maybe throw in how we sacrificed our men

2:05:52

and women in Colombia. Joe, you know, that's

2:05:54

what I would have said. So he was

2:05:56

actually very nice. So let's give some credit

2:05:58

to President Trump. who's being nice. And

2:06:01

to seem petty and small at times.

2:06:04

So what you saw was a candidate

2:06:06

who's deeply vulnerable and a president

2:06:08

who may not be able to take advantage of it. Listen,

2:06:11

if anybody in America thinks that that was

2:06:13

even close to being an okay

2:06:16

debate by Joe Biden, I'm

2:06:19

living in a parallel universe. That

2:06:21

was an unmitigated disaster for President Biden

2:06:23

from the second he walked out to

2:06:25

the closing statement. The biggest issue

2:06:28

for Democrats is abortion and

2:06:30

he couldn't give an answer. He gave an answer,

2:06:32

a three, he couldn't even

2:06:34

give a coherent answer on the

2:06:36

biggest issue for Democrats tonight. I've

2:06:39

heard from. Kim, can we

2:06:41

just say how sad it is

2:06:43

that for Democrats, the right to

2:06:45

kill babies is their most important

2:06:47

issue. Not putting food on the

2:06:49

table, this is fact. Not

2:06:51

having clean water, fact. Not

2:06:54

having housing, fact. Not

2:06:56

having jobs, fact. Being

2:06:58

overtaxed, Joe, fact. It's

2:07:02

abortion. Just take that

2:07:04

in for a second. Leading

2:07:06

Democrats across the United States, elected

2:07:08

governors, congressmen, who are texting me

2:07:10

and saying, I'm worried I'm gonna lose if Joe

2:07:13

Biden's at the top of the ticket. Bob

2:07:15

Casey, I promise you tonight in the state of Pennsylvania

2:07:18

is throwing up in his mouth because he knows

2:07:20

that he's got to stand next to Joe Biden,

2:07:22

he's going down in Pennsylvania. If

2:07:25

he's on the ticket, I don't know how it's gonna work. Yeah,

2:07:28

look, it was a really disappointing debate performance from Joe

2:07:31

Biden. I don't think there's any other way to slice

2:07:33

it. His biggest issue that he had to prove to

2:07:35

the American people was that he had the energy and

2:07:37

the stamina, and he didn't do

2:07:39

that. And so I think that is of

2:07:41

concern. And I think for a lot of

2:07:43

Democrats, that's very disappointing. I'm sorry,

2:07:45

do you guys all not see that they

2:07:47

look like they're ready to cry again? Oh,

2:07:50

he's so, he's so disappointing. And

2:07:53

they're panicked, because they're like, what do we do now? Yeah,

2:07:56

we're gonna cite all those letters where we said

2:07:58

they plan this shit. They planned

2:08:00

this shit. They planned to replace

2:08:02

Biden. We wrote it down. We

2:08:05

sent it to our officials over

2:08:07

a month ago. They

2:08:09

can't move and wiggle. I'm telling

2:08:11

you, I'm telling you, the

2:08:13

minute that happens, my ass is going

2:08:16

full throttle. I've been

2:08:18

three times to the Supreme Court. I'm ready to

2:08:20

go again because we told

2:08:22

them they're going to

2:08:24

do this and you better not change

2:08:27

it. She's on the ballot on another

2:08:29

state that got her own shit. They're

2:08:32

not going to change it. We're not going to let

2:08:34

them do it because that's what they chose to put.

2:08:37

You sent them letters in every single state

2:08:39

and you told them this. It's

2:08:41

game over. It's fun. They

2:08:43

look panicked. Look at their face. They're ready

2:08:46

to cry. Point it. I will say Donald

2:08:48

Trump also had some really rough moments in

2:08:50

this debate. Talking to the Biden

2:08:52

campaign, they say their dials started

2:08:54

really moving away from Trump as he

2:08:56

was increasing his personal attacks on Biden.

2:08:58

I think there was a lot about

2:09:00

his character and the personal nastiness that

2:09:02

he was putting on display that doesn't

2:09:05

help him. There was no

2:09:07

personal nastiness. First

2:09:09

of all, Joe Biden took naked showers

2:09:11

with his daughter and I think she

2:09:13

alleged that he molested her. His

2:09:16

son, his crackhead son who needed

2:09:18

help was instead being postured so

2:09:20

they can frickin' launder money in

2:09:22

and out of Ukraine and let

2:09:24

the agency do their thing to

2:09:26

capture the whole front there. He

2:09:29

didn't say all the things he could have said. He

2:09:32

didn't. He didn't say, hey, Joe, we're

2:09:34

not supposed to have notes. Why the fuck do you

2:09:36

have a notebook in front of your face? I'm getting

2:09:38

so angry right now. I'm going to let her talk.

2:09:40

I'm going to let her talk. With

2:09:42

the swing voters that he needs. I also

2:09:44

think you saw him continue to get more

2:09:47

and more animated across the course of the debate

2:09:49

and give some really problematic answers

2:09:51

about January 6th. Some

2:09:53

really problematic answers about Putin.

2:09:56

Donald Trump did not get off scot-free tonight by

2:09:58

any stretch. There is no two

2:10:00

ways about it. That was not a good debate for Joe

2:10:03

Biden. Ben? That

2:10:06

was painful. I love Joe Biden.

2:10:08

I work for Joe Biden. He

2:10:10

didn't do well at all. He

2:10:13

did not do well at all. And

2:10:15

he looked, I'll

2:10:18

give you the analysis. I kind of have the old

2:10:20

man versus the con man. I

2:10:22

can walk you through how I'm supposed to see it and

2:10:25

say it, but I just want to speak from my heart.

2:10:28

I love that guy. That's a good man.

2:10:31

He loves his country. Oh,

2:10:34

wow. Did Van Jones, Mr. Nothingburger, say

2:10:36

that he loves that man? The

2:10:38

man who he knows, according

2:10:40

to his daughter, molested her, right?

2:10:43

In showers naked when she was young. That's

2:10:46

the good man. The good man is

2:10:48

the guy that said, China's not going

2:10:50

to eat our lunch. We

2:10:53

should let China grow because it's in our

2:10:55

benefit. Well,

2:10:57

yeah, you know what benefit it

2:10:59

is? Get this, guys. The UN

2:11:01

set a CCP head. Guess what

2:11:03

they did? They gave out free

2:11:05

Chinese drones to every freaking nation.

2:11:07

For agriculture, of course. And then

2:11:10

all those nations took all those

2:11:12

Chinese drones, right, for agriculture, of

2:11:14

course. And when does the Department

2:11:16

of Agriculture communicate with your intelligence

2:11:18

agency or Department of Defense? Probably

2:11:20

never, unless there's an issue. So

2:11:23

what happens? You get these drones

2:11:25

and you're like, yay, free drones.

2:11:27

But you need software to put

2:11:29

on your government agricultural system so

2:11:31

that way you can access the

2:11:33

Chinese software that's remotely accessed from

2:11:36

just CCP people. And then once they

2:11:38

have access to your government database through

2:11:40

your Department of Agriculture, they have access

2:11:43

to everything. And then they wonder why

2:11:45

they're hacked. But he's a great guy,

2:11:47

isn't he, Joe? Mr.

2:11:50

Nothingburger. He's

2:11:52

doing the best that he can. But

2:11:55

he had a testimony tonight to

2:11:57

restore confidence of the

2:11:59

country and of the bank. and he failed to do that.

2:12:02

And I think there's a lot of people who are

2:12:04

going to want to see him consider

2:12:08

taking a different course now. We're

2:12:10

still far from our convention. And

2:12:12

there is time for this party to figure out a different

2:12:14

way forward if he will allow us to do that. But

2:12:17

that was not what we needed from Joe

2:12:19

Biden. And it's personally painful for a lot

2:12:22

of people. It's not just panic, it's pain

2:12:24

of what we saw tonight. And if I may

2:12:26

just add to that, I think Joe

2:12:29

Biden lost in the first three minutes. I think

2:12:31

a lot of voters probably tuned out and millions

2:12:33

of people are having conversations with their families, with

2:12:35

their friends, of if the president is up to

2:12:37

the task and if he should step aside. And

2:12:40

I'm someone who believes the former president is a

2:12:42

threat to democracy. I think he is a threat

2:12:44

to the America as we know it. He wants

2:12:46

to fundamentally change our institutions. He has laid out

2:12:48

what his plan is. I am not confident that

2:12:51

that is the man to take him on. You

2:12:53

cannot tell me democracy is on the line and

2:12:55

then give that performance tonight. Based

2:12:57

on that in 18 weeks, Donald Trump

2:12:59

will be the president-elect. The

2:13:02

people doing focus groups tonight, and we'll see if

2:13:04

our dial group with Laura Coates confirms this, say

2:13:06

that Biden actually scores pretty well on the issues

2:13:08

when he's talking about the substance. And Trump's numbers

2:13:11

went down both because he was ducking questions, he

2:13:13

was lying about some things, and he was refusing

2:13:15

to answer. And some of it was the tone,

2:13:17

they don't like it. So when you see that,

2:13:20

when you see sort of the statistics, you're

2:13:23

gonna look at like, oh, that's a mixed

2:13:25

bag. But to Van's point about the president's

2:13:27

performance, that's what caused the panic. So the

2:13:30

question is, and my question actually is,

2:13:32

what happens? Because it's a great political

2:13:35

strength of Joe Biden, is his resilience

2:13:37

and his stubbornness. It's

2:13:39

also sometimes a blind spot because he is so stubborn.

2:13:41

It's gonna be very hard to someone, and I don't

2:13:43

know who it is, who could go to Joe Biden

2:13:46

and say, you need to do this, number

2:13:48

one. The question is, again, like, I'm

2:13:51

just telling you, to Abby's point, I've

2:13:53

been doing this for 30 something years, going on

2:13:55

40 years, and I have never, ever had what

2:13:58

happened on this thing tonight happen. in the middle

2:14:00

of the debate. It started early and it continued.

2:14:02

And to a vast point, Van made a very

2:14:04

important point. These are people who

2:14:06

love Joe Biden, who credit Joe

2:14:08

Biden for kicking Donald Trump out of the White House.

2:14:11

They're Democrats. The Democratic Party is a very diverse party.

2:14:13

It fights about a lot of things. It has generational

2:14:15

issues, it has regional issues, and everything else. The thing

2:14:17

that unites the Democratic Party is trying to keep Donald

2:14:19

Trump from getting back into the White House. They love

2:14:22

Joe Biden for kicking him out. They don't

2:14:24

want him back. They came into this debate

2:14:26

nervous that Biden was in a

2:14:29

weak position. They leave this debate panicked. John, if

2:14:31

you love the guy, how could you put him

2:14:33

out there? If you love him, if

2:14:35

you love Joe Biden, if that was my father, you

2:14:38

don't put a guy in that situation. Well, I would say that's

2:14:40

a great point. These guys know this better. These guys know this

2:14:42

better because they talked. Yeah,

2:14:44

but see, these guys also know that

2:14:46

Michelle Obama held a meeting in her house in

2:14:48

D.C., where they discussed the whole situation of how

2:14:51

it's going to go. So a couple of these

2:14:53

people already have a script, and they're going by

2:14:55

it, and how they're going to ease it in.

2:14:58

Like I said, not happenstance with

2:15:00

Newscom. There's

2:15:02

this legacy of the Democratic Party. You don't challenge

2:15:04

the incumbent because when it's happened in the past,

2:15:07

they haven't beaten the incumbent, and then

2:15:09

the incumbent has lost the general election.

2:15:11

Actually, Donald Trump helped make Joe Biden

2:15:13

the nominee because there was a feeling

2:15:15

that if there were a primary, that

2:15:18

Biden would probably win, but it would

2:15:20

weaken him in a general election, and

2:15:22

so there were people who could have

2:15:24

run and didn't run because the history

2:15:26

of that is bad. The point is

2:15:28

now he is the nominee of the

2:15:30

Democratic Party. This isn't the 60s, okay?

2:15:33

Voters choose the nominee. He is the nominee.

2:15:35

Only he can decide whether he's going to continue.

2:15:37

And as you point out, and as Kate

2:15:39

knows very well, this is a guy with

2:15:41

a lot of pride and who believes in himself

2:15:43

and the idea that he's going to say, you

2:15:46

know, I had a bad debate. I think

2:15:48

I'm going to walk away from this. I

2:15:50

find it hard to believe. It was also an

2:15:52

atypically bad performance, okay? And

2:15:58

it was also one night. So yes, was it important? night.

2:16:00

Yes, but it was one night in

2:16:02

the course of a campaign. So I

2:16:04

think let's see how voters react to

2:16:06

it. The problem with the one night

2:16:09

is that it's a one night

2:16:11

that helped confirm people's fears. It's

2:16:15

the one night that everybody was

2:16:17

watching. That was essentially, you know, Trump

2:16:19

said, you ought to take a test.

2:16:21

That was his test. And people are

2:16:24

going to feel that he came up wanting,

2:16:26

not on the substance. I think he actually

2:16:28

won on the substance. I don't think Trump

2:16:30

did well. I think what it

2:16:32

says to a lot of people, a lot of active

2:16:34

Democrats is, man, we can beat this guy, but I

2:16:37

don't know if we can beat him with the

2:16:39

press. Scott Scott, we heard from you. When we came

2:16:41

on before this debate, I

2:16:43

said, I thought this candidacy was teetering

2:16:47

and everybody jumped on me. Yes,

2:16:49

we did. Every single person out here. And

2:16:53

I just, I just, the

2:16:55

candidacy has fallen. Okay. Man,

2:16:59

I know you're speaking from your heart. I'm

2:17:01

worried about the president. We should

2:17:03

pray for the president. I think his

2:17:05

advisors, I think the White House

2:17:08

and I think his family have a

2:17:10

lot of explaining to do to

2:17:12

their party and to the American people

2:17:15

this night. This. Dang, that could have

2:17:17

been, that is the largest, biggest shade

2:17:19

I've ever seen right now. One night

2:17:23

was caused by and asked for by

2:17:25

the Biden team. They wanted this

2:17:28

night. And this is

2:17:30

what we got. We have been told for weeks,

2:17:33

weeks by Democrats who say, Oh, in

2:17:36

private meetings, I've seen Joe Biden do

2:17:38

cartwheels and handstands while doing trigonometry

2:17:41

while solving all the nation's problems.

2:17:44

We now know that every single person who said

2:17:46

that has been lying

2:17:48

to the American people, including Kevin McCarthy.

2:17:50

We've been told, Kate, I mean, just

2:17:52

saying everything we've

2:17:54

been told about his mental acuity by

2:17:57

these Democrats has been a lie and everything

2:18:00

we feel. think we knew has been confirmed.

2:18:02

I got a text from a friend. She's

2:18:04

not terribly political. She maxed out

2:18:06

to Biden in the last election because she

2:18:08

hates Donald Trump. She

2:18:10

said to me, I will never forgive

2:18:13

the Democratic Party for

2:18:15

this election. If the

2:18:17

Democrats truly believe that he is an

2:18:19

existential threat to democracy, and

2:18:22

that's not just some talking point, they

2:18:24

will wake up in the morning and they will

2:18:26

do something else because this is not sustainable. That's

2:18:29

another point about there are Democrats

2:18:31

who are panicking, and then there are a

2:18:33

lot of Republicans who did not

2:18:35

want to vote for Donald Trump, who do

2:18:37

not want to vote for Donald Trump, who

2:18:39

are also panicking tonight. I heard from one

2:18:42

who said, this is scary. That's

2:18:45

how it was described to me. I second that.

2:18:48

There were a lot of those feelings, not

2:18:52

just from the base of the party, but other

2:18:55

people who really think that there should be an

2:18:57

alternative to Trump who they think is dangerous. And

2:19:00

that's the other part of what is unfolding tonight

2:19:02

in terms of the panic that is out there.

2:19:04

You already have coming into this

2:19:06

debate support

2:19:08

for third party candidates, Robert F.

2:19:11

Kennedy Jr. highest, and then

2:19:13

Jill Stein and Cornel West, no where. Okay, so

2:19:15

let me just say something. I've

2:19:17

told you in the last elections

2:19:19

that after that evening, CNN will

2:19:22

be speaking true. I

2:19:24

have told you that they always tell you

2:19:26

what they're about to do. And there's

2:19:29

a lot of people right now that

2:19:31

are giving their boom commentary and here's

2:19:33

what we're gonna plan and we're gonna

2:19:35

militia this bullshit, right? Or ha ha

2:19:37

ha, that was funny. And ha ha,

2:19:39

did you see his face? Well, let's

2:19:41

speak serious shit right now, right? These

2:19:43

motherfuckers are plotting, okay? It's evening, we're

2:19:45

all having our wine. We're enjoying this

2:19:48

thing. This geriatric abuse, we saw it.

2:19:50

It was necessary because that's the only

2:19:52

way they could usher them out. So

2:19:54

let's listen to what they say and

2:19:56

digest and mark on that, right? Obviously,

2:20:00

Obviously they can't sing praises to Trump because

2:20:02

they need to segue for their new candidate.

2:20:05

And I told you this years ago that

2:20:07

Gavin Newsom is coming in. Years

2:20:10

ago. And this was

2:20:12

the cherry on top. I told you

2:20:14

they're paying the protesters because they don't

2:20:16

want Joe Biden. And

2:20:19

you know what? If they're lucky and they have the

2:20:21

money and they can get away with it, you know what their

2:20:23

next strategy is? Guess what? All

2:20:25

of these protesters will be like, all right, we're

2:20:27

good with Newsom. No

2:20:29

more riots. Watch. Because

2:20:32

they're smart. You know? And

2:20:34

the thing is Republicans think they're fucking

2:20:37

smart. Conservatives think

2:20:39

they're fucking smart. Well, actually from this

2:20:41

bitch, one of the smartest people, allegedly,

2:20:44

right? Oh

2:20:47

my God, I sound like Trump. I just said that. I

2:20:49

am though. And I'm not going to hide it.

2:20:52

They're dumb. They don't see it coming.

2:20:55

Okay. They don't see it coming.

2:20:57

They just told you. They don't have time till

2:20:59

the DNC to figure it out. So now listen

2:21:01

to what they're saying. They're giving all the options

2:21:03

on the table. See, smart

2:21:06

people listen to when the

2:21:08

enemy speaks, even when it agitates the shit

2:21:10

out of them. Right?

2:21:12

Dumb people just kind of comment,

2:21:15

you know, after something and not listen

2:21:17

to their plotting after because

2:21:19

there's tons of channels right now

2:21:21

listening to themselves talk rather than

2:21:24

listen to them tell you what they

2:21:26

have planned. For

2:21:29

nearest close. But if you add it all up, you

2:21:31

get into the teens in most States. When you do

2:21:33

that, I think one byproduct out of this is watch

2:21:35

and see if those numbers go up a little bit.

2:21:37

I'm not saying they're going to go anywhere like a

2:21:39

perot standard, but you get to, you get to third

2:21:41

party candidates getting into double digits. Then

2:21:43

that's really starts to twist your electoral math

2:21:45

state, depending on who they're drawing from state

2:21:48

by state. This was already very complicated race.

2:21:50

This is within number one. The biggest complication

2:21:52

right now is conversation with the Democratic Party.

2:21:54

But the other complication is going to be

2:21:56

if Joe Biden stays put and Kate's right,

2:21:58

maybe there'll be another debate. I'm not sure Donald

2:22:00

Trump's gonna agree to a second debate. Biden's gonna

2:22:02

need it now. I'm not sure Trump's gonna agree to it if

2:22:04

the dynamics of the race change. Bill never gonna do it. And

2:22:07

I would also watch the third party. I

2:22:09

just wanna say one thing. Yeah. Especially

2:22:11

the you two guys. If

2:22:14

for whatever reason, there's a

2:22:16

change at the top of the ticket, you

2:22:20

guys are in trouble with Donald Trump because the

2:22:22

guy who was up there tonight is

2:22:25

not a guy who's going to inspire

2:22:28

people, he did

2:22:30

not show in any way that he

2:22:32

has changed from the guy who people

2:22:34

have a very positive opinion of for

2:22:36

a lot of good reason. I think

2:22:38

Donald Trump won several policy exchanges tonight.

2:22:40

I think he did well on immigration.

2:22:42

I think he did well on the

2:22:44

economy. I think he did well on

2:22:47

inflation. I think he went back to Afghanistan as

2:22:49

he should have. The thing he did not

2:22:51

do was after he realized that

2:22:53

he had Biden beaten on

2:22:55

policy and on image, he

2:22:58

should have turned the page and sounded

2:23:00

an optimistic note about what we can become as

2:23:02

a people and as a country. He did not

2:23:04

do that. He continued to pummel Joe Biden all

2:23:06

night. I understand what you're saying, but

2:23:09

at the end of the night, very

2:23:11

few things about the policy exchanges is

2:23:13

gonna be remembered. People are gonna remember

2:23:15

Joe Biden. But that. They're

2:23:18

gonna remember him shuffling out. They're gonna remember

2:23:20

him staring blankly into the camera. They're

2:23:22

gonna remember him looking down, losing his train

2:23:24

of thought. And they're gonna remember that everything

2:23:26

I thought I knew, but the White House

2:23:28

told me, don't believe my own eyes is

2:23:31

actually true. But that's not what I'm saying.

2:23:33

What I said, Scott, was if

2:23:35

Joe Biden were not the candidate, if there

2:23:37

was another candidate, I think Donald Trump would

2:23:39

be in deep. Yeah, but actually, he had

2:23:41

it. If I

2:23:43

made that, that is such a sad state

2:23:45

of affairs. Something I was consistently hearing is,

2:23:47

what a bad debate in the sense that

2:23:49

Donald Trump lied throughout. He misrepresented. He tried

2:23:52

to turn away from key points that he

2:23:54

should have given answers on and kept and

2:23:56

kept deflecting. With any normal generic Democrat next

2:23:58

to him. I don't think you would have

2:24:00

won the night but you put somebody who

2:24:02

was Suffering from the moment that they got

2:24:04

out if it was hard to watch I

2:24:06

had to occasionally look away because it was

2:24:08

so uncomfortable I think America deserves

2:24:10

better than the options that are in front of them.

2:24:12

It's really devastating And by the way, our allies are

2:24:14

watching. Yeah, look, I mean the way that I would

2:24:16

try to phrase it if I were less emotional That

2:24:24

chick gotta look away Because

2:24:26

it was just so hard just a heartening

2:24:29

and by the way, our allies are watching

2:24:31

You mean our enemies are watching right the

2:24:33

fact that we're the weakest damn nation right

2:24:35

now You know who's stronger than us right

2:24:37

now at the Congo. You know, who else

2:24:39

is stronger than us Zaire? You

2:24:42

know who else Venezuela Cuba Russia

2:24:44

China? And we just put a

2:24:46

relic a crypt keeper that can't

2:24:48

tie his shoe for four years

2:24:50

on Stage to pretend to

2:24:52

be president and you couldn't hide

2:24:54

it and you did it on purpose So

2:24:57

you can usher in Gavin quickly and say

2:24:59

oh, you know guys, it'd just be nice

2:25:01

He had a stroke like we said he

2:25:03

had a stroke and he didn't want to

2:25:05

tell anyone because it's not a big deal

2:25:07

And he was recovering. So forgive

2:25:09

us but he'll pass

2:25:12

now, you know, you can put

2:25:14

someone else like Nancy Pelosi's nephew

2:25:16

Gavin Newsom who's Created California into

2:25:19

a big-ass shithole, but let's

2:25:21

just hear them cry some more but he told the truth

2:25:24

You look terrible those policies were good Trump

2:25:27

spoke plainly, but he lied the whole time

2:25:30

and he looked good. But his policies were

2:25:32

terrible I mean, he's gonna do nothing on

2:25:34

climate change. He was hugging the cactus on

2:25:36

abortion I mean his policies are terrible So

2:25:38

you have somebody who probably shouldn't be president

2:25:40

and you have somebody who cannot be president

2:25:43

in terms of what Donald Trump represents So

2:25:45

so we have a problem as a country

2:25:47

now and this might be an opportunity for

2:25:49

people to come together and figure this Out

2:25:51

because neither one of those people right now

2:25:53

are inspiring the confidence That

2:25:55

they should inspire that they can do the job

2:25:57

in a way that would be good for the

2:25:59

country But young voters are up for grabs in

2:26:02

this election. And I don't know a voter under

2:26:04

30 who would have watched tonight and could say,

2:26:06

I have confidence in Joe Biden and casting my

2:26:08

vote for four more years of Biden. And

2:26:10

this opens the door, by the way, for

2:26:12

the conversation about if Joe

2:26:15

Biden remains the candidate, you're

2:26:17

not voting for Joe Biden. You are

2:26:19

voting for president Kamala Harris. Let's be honest. That

2:26:21

is where the Trump campaign is going to go

2:26:23

with this. They started down this road with an

2:26:25

ad they released today. But this

2:26:27

conversation about who you're actually casting your

2:26:29

vote for, the volume is going

2:26:32

to ratchet up. And I got news for you. She's

2:26:34

less popular than he is. That is

2:26:36

going to be a big problem for the Democrats if

2:26:38

this ticket stays the way it is. Yeah. And the

2:26:40

Scott's Democratic friend who maxed out, right?

2:26:43

That's the sentiment you're going to hear, I think,

2:26:45

from some of my Democratic friends who are texting

2:26:47

me saying, I can't believe this is where we...

2:26:49

Can I say something that probably no one's going

2:26:51

to talk about tonight? Cause they're going to be

2:26:53

like, this is such a win. It's not a

2:26:56

win if you're running a race against someone with

2:26:58

no legs. Okay. Now I

2:27:00

want you to listen carefully. If

2:27:03

you know the gag order on

2:27:05

president Trump, right? The words

2:27:07

of the judge were like, let's see

2:27:09

how he behaves tonight to see how

2:27:11

much of an extent pay attention to

2:27:13

what I just said, because it could

2:27:15

have just come out and said they're

2:27:18

planning to replace him. Now it was

2:27:20

very easy for them to put an

2:27:22

ad out because there's, you know, a

2:27:24

couple of people on social media that

2:27:26

have been saying it a lot. So

2:27:28

he didn't say anything. So hence

2:27:30

the gag order better be lifted.

2:27:34

We are right. Yeah. I can't, I don't forget. I

2:27:36

can't, I'm not going to be able to forgive the

2:27:38

party for putting it in this position. Look,

2:27:40

I don't know lies about, on Donald Trump's lies.

2:27:42

I mean, I, I spent a lot of time

2:27:44

thinking about this throughout the debate because, you

2:27:47

know, we, be in the media. I sit

2:27:49

in the chair and I fact check Trump

2:27:51

all the time. So I

2:27:53

know these lies by heart at this point,

2:27:55

but people watching from home do not. And

2:27:58

the Biden's. job as the other person

2:28:00

on the other side of the stage

2:28:03

is to be the one to very

2:28:05

quickly dispense with the

2:28:07

lies and to shut them down. And

2:28:09

I don't think that happened enough times

2:28:13

in a coherent way to blunt the

2:28:15

fact that Trump was taking a universe

2:28:18

that was built on a house of lies

2:28:20

and building a whole world for millions

2:28:24

of people watching. Particularly on some of

2:28:26

the most basic subject matters that

2:28:28

President Biden should have been able

2:28:30

to just... That world that he was able to

2:28:32

build, it was not

2:28:34

knocked down by the president. That

2:28:37

is really at the heart of the problem.

2:28:39

He may have won when he was making

2:28:41

his discrete policy points,

2:28:43

but part of the job on the debate stage

2:28:46

is dealing with an

2:28:48

opponent like Donald Trump who

2:28:50

goes like a mile a minute on

2:28:52

things that are not true. And if

2:28:54

you don't deal with that, no one at home is doing

2:28:56

that. All I want

2:28:58

to say is I'm not sure. I don't think you're

2:29:01

giving viewers enough credit. I think what they saw was

2:29:03

the Trump that they didn't like. And

2:29:05

I don't think he did himself a great service. I

2:29:09

also think we should let voters absorb

2:29:11

this and see what they say, right?

2:29:13

Let's look at the dials. Let's look at where

2:29:15

they are next week. We can make

2:29:17

our pronouncements, but ultimately voters have to absorb

2:29:19

it. They're going to turn your mics off,

2:29:21

guys. And the one thing that Biden

2:29:24

did fact check him on, on the Charlottesville thing,

2:29:26

he was completely wrong. So

2:29:28

he's up there talking about Charlottesville and Trump not denouncing

2:29:30

the two sides. And Snopes

2:29:32

was out last week, seven months, seven

2:29:35

years too late kind of thing on the deal. And

2:29:37

that's the thing Joe Biden is going to fact check him on, something that was

2:29:40

proven false. We're going to

2:29:42

more with the panel out here, a

2:29:44

lot of notable moments, painful moments from

2:29:47

tonight. But as we've been talking about,

2:29:49

perhaps a single defining one as well,

2:29:51

this one early on. a

2:30:00

small group in our

2:30:02

nation's capital has reaped

2:30:04

the rewards of government

2:30:07

while the people

2:30:30

had the cost. Washington

2:30:34

flourished, but the

2:30:36

people did not share in

2:30:39

its wealth. Politicians

2:30:41

prospered, but the jobs

2:30:43

left and the

2:30:45

factories closed. The

2:30:49

establishment protected itself, but

2:30:52

not the citizens of our country. What

2:30:55

truly matters is

2:30:57

not which party controls our

2:30:59

government, but whether our government

2:31:01

is controlled by the people.

2:31:04

From this day forward, it's

2:31:06

going to be only America

2:31:09

first. You

2:31:12

are going to be so proud of

2:31:14

your country because we're going to turn

2:31:16

it around and we're going to start

2:31:18

winning again. We're going to win so

2:31:20

much. We're going to win at every

2:31:23

level. We're going to win so much.

2:31:25

You may even get tired of winning

2:31:27

and you'll say, please, please, it's too

2:31:29

much winning. We can't take it anymore.

2:31:31

Mr. President, it's too much. And I'll

2:31:34

say, no, it isn't. We have to

2:31:36

keep winning. We have to win more.

2:31:38

We're going to win more. I'm going

2:31:40

to bomb the shit out of them.

2:31:43

It's true. I don't care. 20,

2:31:55

24 is the final battle to save our

2:31:58

country from destruction. We

2:32:00

will make America wealthy

2:32:02

again. We

2:32:06

will make America strong

2:32:08

again. We will make

2:32:11

America proud again.

2:32:15

We will make America

2:32:17

safe again. And

2:32:20

we will make America

2:32:22

great again. Thank

2:32:26

you. Okay,

2:32:30

so CNN just

2:32:32

terminated their discussions out of

2:32:35

the blue. So we're

2:32:37

going to take a short intermission. And

2:32:39

while you listen to this mashup

2:32:42

that I have especially for you, I'd

2:32:45

like you to think of all the

2:32:47

children that went missing under the Biden

2:32:49

administration coming through the border. I want

2:32:51

you to make note that the Guatemalan

2:32:53

Attorney General demanded answers why their kids

2:32:56

are being kidnapped. I want you to

2:32:58

take note of all the children the

2:33:00

minute they're out of diapers their kindergarten

2:33:02

teacher can choose their sex. I

2:33:05

want you to imagine all those

2:33:07

children that are being indoctrinated by

2:33:10

these insane people.

2:33:57

I want you to imagine all those children that are being indoctrinated by

2:33:59

these insane people. Alright,

2:34:35

no.

2:34:41

Huh. Now,

2:34:51

we don't have a CNN feed

2:34:53

comparing, but we do

2:34:55

have an MSDNC, and

2:34:57

this is gonna be fun. So,

2:34:59

please enjoy because now they're starting to

2:35:01

warm up to the idea of removing

2:35:03

Joe Biden, which was their plan in

2:35:05

the first place. And I already saw

2:35:07

a bunch of you tweeting, hey, we

2:35:09

sent you letters a long time ago

2:35:12

telling you that was the plan. You

2:35:14

can't take him off the ballot. You gotta

2:35:16

keep Joe Biden. And no matter

2:35:18

what they do, they can't change it. We need

2:35:20

to fight them in the courts. This

2:35:23

is how you win. You're patient, and

2:35:25

when you know what they're gonna do, you don't just

2:35:27

bitch about it. Do something.

2:35:29

And every single one of you did. So

2:35:31

get your tootsies ready because

2:35:34

this is gonna be fun. Now, let's

2:35:36

take a hear of what they want

2:35:38

to tell us is going on. So

2:35:41

this is gonna be interesting. The

2:35:43

fact that that is even a shadow now

2:35:46

hanging over the debate performance for President Biden

2:35:48

is at minimum a headache for the Biden

2:35:50

campaign moving into the next stretch of this

2:35:52

campaign out of the Republican convention in the

2:35:55

next couple weeks and at worst potentially something

2:35:57

that will dog them now for months. what

2:36:00

we have seen from voters in polling consistently,

2:36:02

which is, yes, concern about President Biden's age.

2:36:04

Now, all of that said, I'm in the

2:36:06

spin room, and they call it the spin

2:36:08

room, a reason for a reason, Savannah. It

2:36:10

is because you have surrogates here for both

2:36:12

campaigns, and of course the Biden campaign out

2:36:14

here, trying to make the case that their

2:36:16

candidates did well. And I will tell you

2:36:18

what some of the early spin is now

2:36:20

from team Biden, suggesting that President Trump's answer,

2:36:22

for example, on January 6th was not a

2:36:24

good one, that people are turned off by

2:36:27

his insults, by his attacks on President Biden

2:36:29

here. But remember the sort of social economy

2:36:31

that we're in right now, Savannah and Lester,

2:36:33

this idea that these sort of clippable, shareable

2:36:35

moments are what people tend to see if

2:36:37

they're not watching tonight, then perhaps the next

2:36:39

day or the day after. And

2:36:41

there are some moments here that the Biden

2:36:44

campaign is gonna find tough to swallow based

2:36:46

on the President's performance tonight. Yeah, well, speaking

2:36:48

of the spin room and surrogates, we wanna

2:36:50

do that right now, go to Biden campaign

2:36:53

national co-chair, former Mayor Mitch Landrieu. And

2:36:55

Mr. Mayor, let me let you put a fine point

2:36:57

on it. Was this the commanding

2:36:59

performance from your candidate you hope to see?

2:37:02

Well, I thought it was a really bare knuckles brawl.

2:37:04

I think they're right, the President started off slow, but

2:37:06

then he came back. But the most compelling thing about

2:37:09

tonight that you write about more than you write about

2:37:11

anything else is that when Donald Trump

2:37:13

was speaking, he was lying. And the fact

2:37:15

that there was no fact checking is incredible.

2:37:17

It's really hard to debate somebody who was

2:37:19

untethered from the truth. He doubled down on

2:37:21

the fact that January 6th really wasn't a

2:37:23

big deal. He doubled down on the fact

2:37:25

that he thought those folks were patriots. He

2:37:27

doubled down on the fact that he was

2:37:29

an election denier. He doubled down on the

2:37:31

fact that he thought reversing Roe versus Wade

2:37:33

was a great idea. He doubled down on

2:37:35

the fact that the economy was the

2:37:37

best in the world when in fact it was

2:37:40

not. And so these debates have a way of

2:37:42

coursing over time. But before tomorrow morning, when you

2:37:44

fact check what was said, you are gonna find

2:37:46

out that almost everything that Donald Trump said tonight

2:37:48

was a fabricated line. The fact that they've been

2:37:51

fact checking at time is difficult. Mr. Mayor, will

2:37:53

that be the conversation or will the conversation be

2:37:55

about the physical performance? I

2:37:57

think because of the way people analyze

2:37:59

debates. I'm sorry. Let's free phrase that

2:38:01

question. Tomorrow, the news.

2:38:04

Who's owning them? Will they

2:38:07

actually write what you're saying, sir?

2:38:11

Have you paid them or

2:38:13

has the next candidate insured?

2:38:16

They're slotting in at the DNC because they're

2:38:18

not going to be talking about it. I,

2:38:20

I, you know, as a linguist, I can't

2:38:22

help it. I needed to translate. He was

2:38:24

saying, are you sure the media is not

2:38:27

going to be running with the fact that

2:38:29

they need to get rid of him? Do

2:38:31

you think they're going to hit, you know, Trump who

2:38:34

owns the media boy? Cause we're not hearing

2:38:36

that. We're getting different notes. He's telling it.

2:38:39

Listen. It's going

2:38:41

to be at first about the physical performance, but

2:38:43

when you get into the substance of what was

2:38:46

said, I think the takeaway from this was that

2:38:48

Joe Biden was right on the substance. He told

2:38:50

the truth. He has a better record. America is

2:38:52

stronger. People respect us more. The economy is better.

2:38:55

And Donald Trump, malicious literally to every question that,

2:38:57

that was asked of him. He did not tell

2:38:59

the truth. It was like he was living in

2:39:01

another universe, but if you can't fact some checks

2:39:04

on body and somebody isn't ashamed of not telling

2:39:06

the truth, it is a very difficult situation. And

2:39:08

I thought you saw that in real time tonight,

2:39:10

but what you also did say was president,

2:39:12

when we finished with president Biden, actually

2:39:15

fighting for the people that really, uh,

2:39:17

he believes that Donald Trump becoming obsessed

2:39:19

again with himself and almost being unhinged

2:39:21

in some moments. Mr. Mary, you

2:39:24

talk about fact checks. One of the

2:39:26

key issues in this campaign and the

2:39:28

polls show it over and over again,

2:39:30

a core issue for voters is whether

2:39:32

or not president Biden has the competence

2:39:35

and ability to complete a second term.

2:39:37

So the fact check is before their

2:39:39

eyes. They're able to assess it. Was

2:39:41

the president Biden that you saw tonight,

2:39:44

the individual you know, so if people

2:39:46

assess based on what they saw tonight,

2:39:48

that this is the president who will

2:39:50

serve another four years, are you comfortable

2:39:53

with that assessment based on what you saw tonight?

2:39:56

I am. Translation. Listen

2:39:59

carefully. to what you're saying. I know what

2:40:01

you're saying about the fact checking. And

2:40:03

here's a parentheses. There was a deal that

2:40:05

he would shut up about Biden being sick

2:40:08

and not saying anything if you would do

2:40:10

that. And he's like, all right, then no

2:40:12

fact check live or anything like that. Maybe

2:40:14

that was the deal. Who knows? But what

2:40:17

she's telling him is we're not getting those

2:40:19

notes, sir. And we are following this. Tell

2:40:21

us why we should not follow those notes,

2:40:23

sir, because we're giving these notes. Served

2:40:26

with president Biden for two years. I was with

2:40:29

him on a regular basis and I've seen

2:40:31

him recently. I think that he's fine. I think he

2:40:33

had a cold tonight. I think he looked a little

2:40:35

sluggish when he came out, but as the night went

2:40:37

on, I think he really kind of rose to occasion.

2:40:39

It's going to be a very, very difficult night. It

2:40:41

was a bare knuckles brawl, but I'm proud of the

2:40:43

fact that he stood up to Donald Trump and the

2:40:45

mistruths that he told. And he tried to lay his

2:40:47

plan out for the American people. All right,

2:40:49

Mitch Landrieu, Biden campaign co-chair. Thank you so much. We want

2:40:51

to turn now to our senior. Thank you for having me.

2:40:53

Yeah, of course. Our senior national correspondent,

2:40:55

Tom Yamas, is on the floor of the spin room,

2:40:58

Tom, what are you hearing? Hey,

2:41:01

Savannah, good to be with you tonight. So listen,

2:41:03

campaign elections, they are all about strategies. The Biden

2:41:05

campaign strategy in the spin room is a little

2:41:07

odd right now. All these people are waiting for

2:41:09

any democratic strategist to come out. Anyone from the

2:41:11

Biden campaign, anybody who supports Joe Biden to come

2:41:14

out here and defend his performance right now, you

2:41:16

can see there are not a lot of people

2:41:18

here. To be fair, they have chosen a different

2:41:20

space from what we understand. They're going to have

2:41:22

surrogates there as well. If I turn the camera

2:41:24

around the spin room, all these people here, these

2:41:27

people are talking to Trump supporters. These are surrogates

2:41:29

that are out here, right? People like... Wait a

2:41:32

minute. Did he just say that there's nobody there

2:41:34

to defend Biden? He clearly just

2:41:36

said that. That this whole room, there's

2:41:38

one person, I think they're in another

2:41:40

room, right? No one's here to defend

2:41:42

him. But here are all the Trump

2:41:45

people, because, oh my

2:41:47

God. The vague Rama Swamy,

2:41:49

people like Representative Stefano. We saw Senator Rubio

2:41:51

enter the room as well. I said to

2:41:53

you the point I'm trying to make is

2:41:55

that the Trump team is out here on

2:41:57

the offense. They're here saying basically that the

2:41:59

president... Biden had a very bad debate that

2:42:01

that President Trump obviously the candidate they're supporting

2:42:04

had a much better debate and that the

2:42:06

decision now is clear right that if the

2:42:08

American viewers saw the performance

2:42:10

from President Biden the choice is clear again

2:42:12

I'm sure in the moments to come President

2:42:14

Biden will be out uh somebody from his

2:42:17

team will come out here and defend uh

2:42:19

the President's performance but right now again listen

2:42:21

all these reporters and there's dozens of them

2:42:23

are waiting for anyone to come out right

2:42:26

now from the just hold on they're gonna

2:42:28

come and tell us you know I know

2:42:31

it's summer you and the fam probably

2:42:33

have a lot on your plate but

2:42:35

one suggestion to go check out this

2:42:37

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2:42:40

COSI this exhibit is amazing because it

2:42:42

immerses you into the story of Titanic

2:42:44

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2:42:46

of authentic artifacts that have been recovered

2:42:48

from the ocean floor and kids especially

2:42:50

are loving this exhibit right now

2:42:52

at COSI this exhibit is only at COSI

2:42:55

through September 2nd this exhibit honestly has been

2:42:57

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2:43:02

good on this and we're confident on this we're

2:43:04

just waiting any minute now fighting campaign and listen

2:43:06

this is the spin room so even though they

2:43:08

have a different room that they wanted to put

2:43:11

their people in as far as strategy goes as

2:43:13

far as where the reporters are this is where

2:43:15

everyone is right now and again all these piles

2:43:17

of people you see here all these reporters these

2:43:19

cameras they're surrounding Trump's brigades you can see the

2:43:21

sign up there right senator Tim Scott let's walk

2:43:23

over the form of Swami's over here uh senator

2:43:25

Marco Rubio's over here let's go see if we

2:43:27

oh my god this guy probably hates his job

2:43:29

he's gonna have like 20 million drinks get senator

2:43:32

Rubio real quick to see what he says we're

2:43:34

gonna send it back to you guys in the

2:43:36

studio as we give you a live shot of

2:43:38

senator Rubio and we'll stay out here in the

2:43:40

spin room floor all right very good Tom thank

2:43:42

you joining us now from the debate spin room

2:43:44

is North Dakota governor Doug Bergum governor good evening

2:43:46

thank you for being with us Lester

2:43:50

great to be with you we we heard

2:43:52

from the uh sir oh for those of

2:43:54

you that aren't aware of who this guy

2:43:56

is he's the governor of North Dakota he's

2:43:58

uh partners with Bill Gates Uh-huh. And

2:44:01

he is owned by the Chinese according to

2:44:04

all the documents and even has a loan

2:44:08

from the Chinese investors where he purchased half

2:44:10

a Fargo. Oh, and on top of that,

2:44:12

remember the contact tracing app where they wanted

2:44:14

to trace people around you without your permission,

2:44:16

but download it just to be safe. He

2:44:19

invented that. He also created the QR code

2:44:21

so he could take your DNA because it

2:44:23

wasn't really a test and put

2:44:25

it on the record for you. And then they

2:44:28

sold all that to China. I just wanted to

2:44:30

introduce you to this guy just in case you guys

2:44:32

don't know who he is. Forget

2:44:34

for the Biden campaign that President

2:44:36

Trump in their view flooded

2:44:39

the zone with untruths, haptruths,

2:44:41

what's your reaction to that?

2:44:45

Well, I think my reaction is that President Trump

2:44:48

had a very strong performance that I think America

2:44:50

saw. They

2:44:53

saw the challenges that Joe Biden had just

2:44:55

delivering a message and he didn't have an

2:44:57

answer on inflation. He didn't have an answer

2:44:59

on the border. And I think that's what

2:45:02

Americans, the Americans I talk to Republicans, independents,

2:45:04

Democrats, those are the two things that are

2:45:06

affecting them. Most of the border isn't about

2:45:09

immigration. It's about national security and public safety.

2:45:12

And we didn't hear, we didn't hear answers to that. And I

2:45:14

think it me as a business guy, listening to it, I

2:45:16

would say, uh, it's clear that, you

2:45:18

know, Joe Biden's got a 50 year

2:45:21

long philosophy, which is essentially anti business.

2:45:24

Right now, of course, America comes

2:45:26

to bear in regulation. He wants

2:45:28

to raise taxes. And every solution

2:45:31

is higher taxes and, and

2:45:33

more spending. And so I think that, you know, people

2:45:35

didn't see anything new. There was no vision there.

2:45:38

And people know that they were better off under

2:45:40

President Trump. And so I think tonight, big win

2:45:42

for President Trump. And Governor, on style points, the

2:45:44

fact that there was no audience, do

2:45:47

you think that in the end helped the former president?

2:45:52

Well, I think that President Trump showed

2:45:54

what he shows a lot of people,

2:45:57

which is whether he's in small groups or whether

2:45:59

he's at fundraisers. I mean, he's,

2:46:01

he's, he's right now, he's in a great

2:46:03

spot. He's calm, he's strong. He's

2:46:05

confident. I mean, this is not the guy that was running in 2016.

2:46:07

He knows what

2:46:10

it's like to be president. He's done it

2:46:12

before. He's surrounded himself by great campaign team.

2:46:15

And I think he's very confident about, about how

2:46:17

he's going forward. I think that showed in his

2:46:19

performance tonight. Governor, can I ask you something? A

2:46:21

lot of folks are just tuning in really paying

2:46:23

attention. They're not political junkies like you or I

2:46:25

may be, and they're just tuning in right now.

2:46:28

And one of the last things they remember, of

2:46:30

course, is January 6th, the president losing the election,

2:46:32

but claiming he didn't, people rioting at the Capitol.

2:46:34

Here it was again tonight as point blank. If

2:46:37

you, if, Oh my God, I love her.

2:46:39

I want to hear what he has to

2:46:41

say. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh,

2:46:43

and by the way, he can't talk shit about

2:46:45

borders because most of the deadly criminals are

2:46:47

coming from the Northern one and he manages

2:46:49

the majority of it. And guess what? No

2:46:51

security, but this is perfect. Let's

2:46:53

hear what he has to say. If

2:46:56

you lose the election, will you concede? And he

2:46:58

just doesn't answer the question directly. He's always hedging

2:47:00

it with the, if it's free and fair. And

2:47:03

of course the implication is it's not free

2:47:05

and fair if he's not the winner. Why don't

2:47:07

you just come right out and say, of course

2:47:09

I'll accept the results of this election. Well,

2:47:13

I think you heard him say that at the end, it

2:47:15

would be easier for him if we had, everybody

2:47:18

thought we had secure elections, but we know in

2:47:20

our country, being a democracy, this is a challenge.

2:47:23

That's just a red herring. He got to

2:47:25

litigate it. He had the advantages of our

2:47:28

democracy and our courts and every

2:47:30

other institution, which found that it was a

2:47:32

free and fair election. And yet he's still

2:47:34

on about that. And he won't

2:47:36

say that he'll accept the results of this

2:47:38

election. I just don't get that. Well,

2:47:42

I think for, for any of us that were

2:47:44

around, and I was also part of that 2020

2:47:46

election, we had a free

2:47:48

and fair election in North Dakota. We've got

2:47:50

election security there, but we had so many

2:47:53

rule changes in 2020 with COVID. We had

2:47:55

record number of mail out mail in ballots,

2:47:57

but mailing out flooding the zone with all

2:47:59

these. ballots to non updated

2:48:02

voter files, unmonitored

2:48:04

drop boxes. I mean, you can verify that

2:48:06

this is the number of ballots that got

2:48:08

counted, but I'm a guy that spent my

2:48:10

life in tech and in

2:48:12

business processes. And when you've got unmonitored

2:48:15

documents that don't have any

2:48:18

controlled over the path of that document, you don't

2:48:20

know where it came from, you don't know where

2:48:22

it's been, that would never

2:48:24

pass any kind of audit from a quarterly

2:48:26

audit from a public company. So I think

2:48:28

we all want the same thing. And if

2:48:30

America, whether it's the 2000 election, which

2:48:33

was challenged down in one

2:48:35

county in Florida, the 16 election, which people

2:48:37

claimed, there's Russian interference, the 2020

2:48:39

election. I mean, three of

2:48:41

our last five elections, either of the different parties have

2:48:43

been saying there was concern. We

2:48:45

can't let you get out of here without asking

2:48:47

a question about the VP selection process. What are

2:48:50

you hearing? Obviously your name is one of the

2:48:52

top three. Well, have you been

2:48:54

asked to be VP? Because the former

2:48:56

president says his VP was there. You're

2:48:58

there, Marco Rubio's there, JD Vance is

2:49:00

there. Have you been asked to be VP? There's

2:49:04

so much talent in the Republican party here

2:49:07

tonight. I think the real question has got

2:49:09

to be on the Democrat side. I'm

2:49:11

sure that's the question right now is the

2:49:14

choice that Joe Biden made four years ago. Do

2:49:17

you expect, what are they doing going forward? Do

2:49:19

you expect to know who his vice presidential pick

2:49:21

is this week? Keeping in mind, it's

2:49:23

Thursday night. That's,

2:49:25

and tonight is about President Trump's big victory

2:49:27

and he'll make that decision. Have you been

2:49:29

asked? He'll make a good one. He'll make

2:49:31

the time of his choosing. Have you been

2:49:33

asked? There's

2:49:36

only one person to know who's the next

2:49:38

VP is and that is

2:49:40

President Trump. I'm new here to that question. We go,

2:49:42

Governor. I think that's a no,

2:49:44

he hasn't been asked. All right, Governor, thank you.

2:49:46

NBC's Gotti Schwartz has been watching the debate with

2:49:49

voters known as double haters in

2:49:51

Phoenix. Those are voters who don't like either

2:49:53

candidate. Gotti, what are you hearing? Hey,

2:49:57

Lester, yeah, we started off the night talking about double haters.

2:50:00

How does that debate went on? Double

2:50:02

hate, it's probably not the word that this

2:50:05

panel would use to describe their feelings on

2:50:07

one or possibly both candidates. I mean, we

2:50:09

were just talking about it. How

2:50:12

would you describe this? Double what? Double

2:50:14

frustrated. Double frustrated. How about you?

2:50:17

Double cringe. Double cringe. And I

2:50:19

was watching you as you were watching this

2:50:21

debate, I saw a lot of cringing. I

2:50:23

saw a lot of anger at some times.

2:50:27

If there was one moment that stuck out to you,

2:50:30

what would it be for you? The moment when they

2:50:32

started to go back and forth about golfing. Golfing

2:50:34

towards the end. Yeah, like what does that have

2:50:36

to do with the question of the moderator eggs?

2:50:38

And they just come back and forth and it

2:50:40

was just like, is this real?

2:50:43

Like, you just don't really see them going back

2:50:46

and forth like that. And Denise, how

2:50:48

about you? What was the moment that stuck out to you?

2:50:51

Well first, if I could just finish. He

2:50:54

did that. He did this a lot. I

2:50:56

would like to say we are not in

2:50:58

one of Donald Trump's many properties. We are

2:51:00

in heat filled Phoenix, Arizona, where we are

2:51:02

suffering from climate change. So to say that

2:51:04

there's no problem with our climate is yet

2:51:06

another lie because there were so many lies

2:51:08

told today. But a cringe moment was

2:51:11

I felt like they were in first grade,

2:51:13

second grade. It

2:51:15

was nothing as Donald Trump's fault. It's all

2:51:18

the Democratic judges that that that

2:51:21

Biden put into office. Nothing

2:51:23

is Joe Biden's fault either. It's all

2:51:26

I had cleaned up

2:51:28

your mess. So figure it out, boys,

2:51:30

because you're both wrong. And Nicole, when

2:51:32

it comes to it, I mean, I

2:51:34

saw you cringe a few times during

2:51:36

during Biden's speaking. What were your

2:51:38

thoughts when you were watching that?

2:51:41

I mean, he just really struggled. The

2:51:43

cast director to get these faces

2:51:46

all at one table with

2:51:48

their, you know, modest above

2:51:51

half a million a year

2:51:54

outfits. You know, having these

2:51:56

conversations is is pretty interesting.

2:52:00

tennis outfit here, long

2:52:02

sleeve, the other one, no sleeves.

2:52:04

I mean, this looks ridiculous. Who's

2:52:06

the casting director? Fire them. To

2:52:10

get out of coherent thoughts. And

2:52:13

then he gets sidetracked and he

2:52:15

can't get back onto the conversation.

2:52:18

It's just, it's

2:52:20

really challenging to watch him. And

2:52:23

this is one of those debate watch parties where

2:52:25

three of you said that you wouldn't have made

2:52:27

it past maybe three or four questions, you would

2:52:29

have turned it off. Very insightful coming from Phoenix,

2:52:32

Arizona. People's sorting out their

2:52:34

feelings about what they saw tonight. Gotti, thanks.

2:52:36

We have much more coverage of the first

2:52:38

presidential debate right after this. Is

2:52:43

there a comment? Trump

2:52:46

later blamed

2:52:50

each other for that. Former President Trump repeatedly

2:52:52

slamming President Biden for what he calls a

2:52:54

crisis at the southern border. He also criticized

2:52:56

Biden's handling of the wars in both Gaza

2:52:58

and Ukraine. But what are the worst moments

2:53:00

for Biden tonight when he lost track of

2:53:02

what he was saying in the middle of

2:53:05

an answer about Medicare? Making

2:53:08

sure that we continue to strengthen our

2:53:10

healthcare system, making sure that

2:53:12

we're able to make every single solitary

2:53:14

person eligible

2:53:16

for what I've been able to do with the

2:53:20

COVID, dealing

2:53:23

with everything we have to do

2:53:25

with what if

2:53:30

we finally beat Medicare. Trump

2:53:35

later questioning Biden's ability to respond to

2:53:37

those questions. And

2:53:40

I'm going to continue to move until we get the total

2:53:42

ban on the total

2:53:45

initiative relative to what we're going to

2:53:47

do with more border patrol and more

2:53:50

asylum officers. President Trump? I

2:53:52

really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.

2:53:54

I don't think he knows what he said either. telling

2:54:00

NBC News President Biden has a cold. You

2:54:03

could clearly hear that during his debate performance, especially

2:54:05

when he started. No, no,

2:54:07

no. President Biden had

2:54:09

a stroke a long

2:54:11

time ago, and this is a

2:54:14

reoccurring micro stroke. Okay, so

2:54:16

let's not lie to the public. Let's

2:54:19

be right. Okay, why don't we report the news. You

2:54:21

guys are getting rid of him. Just go all in,

2:54:23

please. Just like these little

2:54:26

snippets, they were perfect. Biden

2:54:28

did get his own daggers in, including the

2:54:30

moment he brought up Trump's criminal conviction. How

2:54:34

many billions of dollars do you owe in civil

2:54:36

families for molesting a

2:54:38

woman in public, for doing a whole

2:54:40

range of things, of having

2:54:42

sex with a porn star on the night you

2:54:44

were given while your wife was pregnant? I didn't

2:54:46

have sex with a porn star. No,

2:54:51

okay, so I'm going to pretend I'm Trump,

2:54:53

okay? So now I'm going to let

2:54:55

him say that. Let me rewind it. And

2:55:00

then I'm going to answer, and I'm Trump. The

2:55:02

moment he brought up Trump's criminal conviction. How

2:55:06

many billions of dollars do you owe in civil families for

2:55:09

molesting a woman in public, for doing a

2:55:11

whole range of things, of having

2:55:14

sex with a porn star on the night you

2:55:16

were given while your wife was pregnant? I

2:55:18

didn't have sex with a porn star. So I

2:55:21

didn't have sex with a porn star, okay?

2:55:23

Let's get something straight. I never

2:55:25

raped E.J. Carroll. She's crazy, okay?

2:55:27

And you guys paid her, and we

2:55:29

should just believe her because she has a vagina, okay? She ruined

2:55:31

it for any woman that wants to talk rape. But

2:55:35

in this case, she didn't remember. She kind of thought, and

2:55:37

she picked my favorite store on the whole planet to say

2:55:39

that she was... No

2:55:41

one would touch you, E.J. Carroll. You're insane.

2:55:43

So then he goes on about saying, owing

2:55:48

civil penalties, the ones you impose. This

2:55:51

is how lawfare works in America. For those

2:55:53

of you that are listening on WeChat right

2:55:55

now and out in Africa, we

2:55:57

love you, and I know you guys

2:55:59

are laughing. But it's scary and thank

2:56:01

you for the sentiment here in America.

2:56:04

I'm gonna say I

2:56:06

can't I can't even I can't so

2:56:10

and you're telling me about civil penalties,

2:56:12

huh? Well, here's here's the thing Oh

2:56:14

let's talk about your stash money in

2:56:16

the Bahamas and how you were Getting

2:56:18

money from your son from China and

2:56:20

Ukraine and how you were funneling 10%

2:56:22

to the big guy, you know But

2:56:24

rock who's saying Obama? Oh, let's talk

2:56:26

about how for the past, you know,

2:56:28

almost four years Everyone in

2:56:30

your White House can't stand the people

2:56:33

that are in there because they're all

2:56:35

Obama people and people don't like Obama

2:56:37

Okay, why don't we talk about that? You're

2:56:40

talking about civil penalties. Let's talk about the

2:56:42

tax fraud Oh, we should get into that.

2:56:44

Oh wait. No, we're gonna have to wait till the courts

2:56:46

do it, right? This

2:56:49

is it. This is what you got

2:56:51

you put the courts on him. That

2:56:53

is exactly what they do They lawfare

2:56:55

people with crimes as civil, you know

2:56:58

remedies So they can taint your character

2:57:00

and they can tank your bank account

2:57:02

and that is what they did just

2:57:04

talking talking talking But the

2:57:07

fact that his daughter's diary said

2:57:09

that he took naked showers with

2:57:11

her and molested her is not

2:57:13

Anybody's lips the fact that there

2:57:15

are pictures in there with you

2:57:17

waving your salami in Africa on

2:57:20

your son's laptop Mr.

2:57:22

Joe Biden is not on anybody's

2:57:24

lips But you're gonna

2:57:26

start talking about that man who never had

2:57:28

a problem Until he

2:57:30

decided to fight for what he thought

2:57:33

right which is freedom democracy, you know

2:57:35

and all that stuff now all that

2:57:37

jazz so All

2:57:43

right, we want to go to some live pictures right

2:57:45

now we understand we have president Biden has gone to

2:57:47

a watch party here in Atlanta debate, let's listen in

2:57:53

Let's keep going see

2:57:55

you at the next one. God. Love

2:57:57

you all head to North Carolina

2:58:03

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank

2:58:05

you. I want to go home with you. Thank

2:58:08

you. All right. We

2:58:16

were just listening to... And there he is

2:58:18

shaking hands with Pretty Tammy the DJ. Did

2:58:22

you see that? Pretty Tammy the

2:58:24

DJ. Okay? He's shaking hands with her. I'm

2:58:27

gonna be nice. So,

2:58:29

and he's going home with all those children there.

2:58:32

And you know, another thing is weird

2:58:34

because tomorrow he has an LGBTQ convention

2:58:36

in New York City, which is going

2:58:39

to be protested the shit out of

2:58:41

because we've been watching the protesters conversing

2:58:43

about how they're going to protest the

2:58:45

shit out of that place. But he's

2:58:48

going to North Carolina. Maybe

2:58:50

he can travel in two places, you know,

2:58:52

in this condition of course he can. Of

2:58:55

course. Because of

2:58:57

course. President Biden right

2:59:00

there at his post debate watch party

2:59:02

trying to fire up the crowd there.

2:59:04

I want to get right over for

2:59:06

Chief Political Analyst, NBC's Chuck Todd. Chuck,

2:59:09

this was quite the debate for a variety of

2:59:11

reasons. It was a debate unlike any other we've

2:59:13

seen. I want to give get

2:59:15

your analysis immediately after this debate and what it

2:59:17

means. Look, we

2:59:20

began this conversation. Oh

2:59:22

my gosh. Did I just see

2:59:24

Chuck Todd move like he had a Lincoln

2:59:26

logo and you got uncomfortable? Chuck

2:59:29

Todd, I'm totally going to enjoy this. I

2:59:31

want to hear your commentary. Oh

2:59:33

my gosh. This is like a dream come true. I

2:59:35

couldn't have pictured this better. Before this

2:59:37

debate, you know, one of the things was would

2:59:39

either candidate look like the caricature that

2:59:41

the other campaign has been trying to paint of them.

2:59:44

And at the end of the day, Joe Biden looks

2:59:46

like the caricature that conservative media

2:59:49

has been painting. And

2:59:51

there were no clips tonight, right? This was you

2:59:53

saw it before your eyes. Look, I

2:59:56

don't want to just tell you what I think here,

2:59:58

Tom.

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