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right guys, welcome. I guess we have
1:52
like a pre-show. I've got my little
1:55
buddy here with
1:57
me. That's little
1:59
Biscuit. And
2:01
I am trying to fix this stuck
2:04
screen. So we're
2:07
waiting for this to come on. So I
2:10
thought maybe we could just get a reminder, you know,
2:14
some stuff I put on Twitter a
2:17
little while back. So I played
2:19
this a few years ago. I think
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I'll play it every now and then, right? I think
2:24
it's important you see it. It
2:26
could keep you safe. It could keep you
2:28
from getting shot. It could keep you alive,
2:30
a mask good. People
2:37
are amazed that there
2:39
was a job title called Chief of
2:42
Disguise. And most women I
2:44
know wish they'd had that job. Sounded
2:47
like fun. Actually, it was fun. I
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don't think another intelligence agency in the world
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devoted the time and
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the budget to disguise like we
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did. Disguise became
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a form of body armor. In the
3:00
spy museum we called the mask Five Second Mask. They
3:04
proved invaluable. You could
3:06
change your ethnicity. You could change your gender.
3:09
You could change your nationality. And
3:11
if you needed to, you could actually become
3:13
another person. When I was Chief of
3:15
Disguise, we had already begun using
3:18
Hollywood stunt double masks. That
3:21
was a technology that came straight out of L.A. with
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men named John Chambers who had done
3:26
all the makeup for Planet of the
3:28
Apes. He has a definite gift for
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mimicry. They could spend five
3:32
hours putting on a mask. They could spend an hour
3:34
taking it off. And they could shoot
3:37
it again and again and again until they got the
3:39
lights just right. Our
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mask had to
3:43
be perfect in the car.
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When you got out of the car, you had to know without a
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mirror. The
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point of all of our masks was
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speed. You had to imagine
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that you were going to be in situations
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that you couldn't be in. even anticipate. An
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officer somewhere picks this thing up, just
4:04
puts it on in
4:06
five seconds, and knows that
4:09
it's right, that he's invisible. If
4:11
you had to sit and tinker with this thing, if
4:13
you needed a mirror, it wasn't going
4:16
to be useful to you at all. The masks
4:18
were full-face latex masks. It allows
4:20
you to throw your brow, it
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allows you to squint your eyes,
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it allows you to speak. The
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specific mask we're talking about would fit
4:30
just one person. The first thing
4:32
we do is we make a face impression. If you've been
4:34
to a dentist and never had a dental impression, it's the
4:36
same thing, it's just your face, not your feet. So
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they would have added to his face. They
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could rearrange his face a bit and give
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him a new face that would fit
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perfectly over his real face. We
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never used human hair, we always used a
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synthetic. The idea of a man
4:53
washing the hair on his mask and
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making it look nice when that was
4:57
all done, it was never going to
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happen. The synthetic hair, you couldn't
5:02
hurt it, basically. You could wear your
5:04
mask in a rainstorm and then your hair would
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still be okay. Very human.
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The masks, more than once, were
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taken off in a moment of
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terror and crushed down and
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put under arms in armpits. They would fit
5:18
in armpits if they needed to. That
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was part of the design. The
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mask is the culmination of a lot
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of work that we did at CIA over a period
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of, I say 10 years,
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developing that technology. It was a
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big challenge to come up with something that
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finally actually animated and
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worked to really fool a
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person closer than three, four feet from
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you. What we did. We
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actually brought Hollywood back into our
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labs at one point to look at what we had
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done. And they were stunned. They're
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absolutely stunned. Congratulations. The
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fact that we're allowed to show it, tells
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me the CIA had moved on. I
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don't know. what they're doing. I shouldn't
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know. I'm dying to know, but I
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don't know. Relax. You'll get to see
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it all later on. So I'm proud to
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show people how good we got to
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that point and let them imagine. So
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what are they doing now? All
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right, so I hope you guys enjoyed that.
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That was just a
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different type of video because I actually
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put the lengthy one in before. So
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let's just see what Twitter is saying about this
6:36
debate. Oh, look at that.
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Almost like I knew. Let's take a listen
6:40
to see what the real. See
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what the real. Oh, isn't
6:46
that awesome? German television just
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promoting it. Let's go. It's a
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non sequitur. I don't even understand the context
6:53
of that. This is the president of the
6:55
United States running for reelection. He's our guy.
6:58
And that's part of the diversion tactic.
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We're right to continue to sort of
7:02
muddy the waters on all that nonsensical
7:04
speculation. It's just like the absurdity of
7:07
who's going to get an injection
7:09
shot. I mean, this is this
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is farcical. It's serious stuff from
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the freedom, liberty rights. And
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to see it trivialize this
7:18
word, trivializing it, even having these conversations
7:21
is really distressing to me as an
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American citizen, not just as a Democrat.
7:25
That's a non sequitur. I don't even
7:28
understand the context of that. He
7:31
doesn't understand why Joe
7:33
Biden shouldn't have given shouldn't
7:35
have taken the what is going
7:37
on here. I
7:40
see rumble working. Why are people saying the
7:42
rumble is not working? Like,
7:44
let me let me refresh and see. I can
7:47
see myself laughing in the screen. Are
7:50
you guys kidding me? Am I being punked? I
7:55
hear you. I see. Oh, it says something went
7:57
wrong. I think the rumble servers
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are down. No,
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I can see that the rumble
8:04
thing is down. Okay, the
8:06
chat, the chat. Rumble is down. The whole
8:08
thing is down. Look, can you see it?
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Yeah, I understand it. It's back up now. It
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should be back up. Let
8:18
me see it because I just refreshed it. Oh,
8:22
and it just went away. Let me do refresh again.
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Hmm. Let me, where's
8:28
that? Where's my work cell phone? There
8:31
it is. Hmm.
8:41
Okay. It
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says HTTP error 500.
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So I'm like confused. Yeah, there's no
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rumble. I just texted
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rumble. Oh,
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wow. Rumble is
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down. I can confirm that guys. Rumble
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is down. Okay. Let
9:10
me know when it's
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back up. Wow.
9:17
All right. Yeah,
9:20
nobody can get back on
9:22
rumble. Okay. Let me put a
9:24
banner so I could tell you that so
9:26
that people don't say, you know, hey, it's cut
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off midstream. Rumble's down. They
9:34
just told me that. Rumble
9:37
is down. Okay.
9:40
Rumble's down. Okay. Stop asking the
9:42
question. So I guess we'll stick
9:44
to Twitter for now until we
9:46
can get back. Okay.
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But Rumble is on fire TV. Yeah. If
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it's on fire TV and you guys are on
9:55
there and you can watch that's fantastic. But
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Rumble is trying to get their. stuff back up and
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they'll let me know when it is. All
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right, so, yep, okay,
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perfect. All right, so
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let's just go through my feed, which
10:14
that was hilarious. Let's
10:17
see, what's going on here?
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Real footage of Bigfoot. You
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know, I love this account. Like I steal his
10:27
memes all the time. And every now and then
10:29
I'll just drop in and say, hey,
10:31
thanks for the meme, I steal them all.
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Let's see, I didn't see
10:37
anything good. God,
10:40
I can't people be classy. Let's
10:43
see, what's this? Getting ready to
10:45
moderate tonight's alternate
10:47
presidential debate with Robert
10:49
Kennedy Jr. Huh,
10:54
wow, all right. Let's
10:57
see, which one should we use? We should use
10:59
this one where CNN's talking, right? We wanna see
11:01
their talking points. You know what?
11:03
So let's get this party started, all right?
11:05
Let me get this started. Let
11:09
me do my pre-roll, you guys. I
11:11
don't wanna scowl. How'd I add? How
11:14
about that? China is
11:16
going to eat our lunch. Come
11:18
on, man, we want to see China
11:21
rise. It is in our self-interest that
11:23
China continue to prosper. They're not bad
11:25
folks, folks. But
11:27
guess what? They're not competition for us.
11:30
Arising China can be a significant asset
11:32
for the region of the world and
11:35
selfishly for the United States. We want
11:37
China to grow. What are we worried
11:39
about? Because
11:41
Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.
11:44
We condemn in the strongest
11:47
possible terms this
11:49
egregious display of hatred, bigotry,
11:51
and violence. It has
11:53
no place in America.
11:56
Because he won't stand up to
11:58
any form of violence. To
12:00
anyone who acted criminally in this
12:03
weekend's racist violence, you
12:05
will be held fully accountable.
12:08
Antifa is an idea. Those who
12:10
spread violence in the name of
12:12
bigotry strike at the very core
12:14
of America. He's
12:17
got no problem with right-wing militia, white
12:19
supremacists and vigilantes with assault weapons.
12:22
And many people in that group
12:24
other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,
12:26
okay? And I'm not talking about
12:29
the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists
12:31
because they should be condemned totally.
12:33
Racism is evil. And
12:36
those who cause violence in its name
12:38
are criminals and thugs, including
12:40
the KKK, neo-Nazis,
12:43
white supremacists, and
12:45
other hate groups that are
12:48
repugnant to everything we hold dear
12:50
as Americans. Antifa is an idea,
12:52
not an organization. Oh, you got
12:54
it. Not militia. Basically,
12:58
tonight we will unveil the CBS
13:00
Confirm team to take a look
13:02
at the things that the campaigns and the candidates say
13:04
tonight that most need a fact
13:06
check. Either there's missing
13:08
context or it's a complete falsehood. We
13:11
will explain all of that and, not
13:13
just tonight, but throughout this process will
13:15
the CBS Confirm team show our work. How
13:18
did we reach the conclusion to verify something
13:20
is true or identify it as
13:23
something false or something in between? We'll not
13:25
only explain the verdict we've reached, but how
13:27
we got there. Keep
13:29
in mind that they all have the questions and they all have
13:32
the answers and they already have the fact checks. Just the way
13:34
they fact check Russia hoax. Just
13:38
the way they fact check everything
13:40
that has happened. So please keep that in mind. It's
13:43
excellent. I think we're all looking forward to that. It's
13:45
such an important element of what we do is fact
13:47
checking this. I also
13:49
just think about having covered so many presidential
13:51
contests. We usually
13:53
have the candidates lay out big
13:55
pieces of policy, like their tax
13:58
plan or their health plan. Or
14:01
in the case of Trump who has talked about a
14:03
lot of things that he was going to unveil, it
14:05
just hasn't happened. There's no big policy
14:07
discussion. Think about how much we used to talk about
14:09
health care. I mean, in the Obama
14:11
years. And it was a constant
14:13
and then in the Democratic. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I
14:16
can't do this. We're going to have to go to CNN. CBS is
14:18
driving me insane. Okay. Because
14:20
all President Trump has been talking about
14:22
is freaking policy. Biden
14:25
just has abortion, abortion, abortion, women's rights,
14:27
and we're going to get Trump. That's
14:30
his policy for us. It's like, let's save
14:32
our country. Let's get this
14:34
going. We need to fix things. This
14:36
is not good. You know, that is
14:38
what he's been doing all this time. So
14:41
I'm extremely confused when I hear people say that
14:43
I just can't watch it. It's not possible for
14:45
me to watch it. Period.
14:48
That's it. It's not happening. Forget
14:50
CBS. They need to go like it's
14:52
done. Like I'm going to go to town CNN
14:56
because they're going to make sense. At
14:59
least they know the questions in advance. Right. Let's go.
15:02
Let's see what they have to say about the questions in
15:04
advance. Nuts on him. Our
15:06
focus group said, oh my God, he's
15:09
actually going to hold their accountable. This
15:11
is exactly what we're looking for in politics.
15:13
So he was a disaster in 2020. He
15:16
was really good in 2016. Well,
15:18
when you look at those two moments, I'm sure there
15:21
were some voters who did not like that moment. This
15:23
is a political opponent clearly
15:25
saying he put his other his
15:27
opponent in jail because he doesn't
15:29
like her. But when you
15:31
actually look at this, you know, you write in this and
15:33
say doesn't like her. She's a
15:35
criminal. She has a list of a
15:37
body count. And to hear
15:39
are those in which the candidates are
15:42
defining ways or under that's better. That
15:45
sounds better, doesn't it? Now, let's just see the
15:47
comments, please. Because I'm going to
15:49
lose my mind with what she said. That's
15:51
so much better. So much
15:53
better. So much better. Let's just
15:55
wait for the countdown of the debate. How's that? So
15:58
I want to see some comments. I know
16:00
that Rumble is down. They'll let
16:02
me know when they're back up because I'm not
16:05
we're not doing that Some
16:08
people were upset about it. You know, I have
16:10
it on yeah, I'm it's it's
16:12
on a countdown I don't know how
16:14
it's not on yet. They said a two-minute delay. Are
16:16
they giving us a 20 minute delay? Like
16:18
I really don't understand This
16:21
is insane. I don't understand
16:23
why it's so late. Isn't
16:25
it supposed to oh dear I wonder
16:27
what the production is gonna be like, how
16:30
about you guys? I'm like actually super excited
16:32
to see what this production is
16:34
gonna be like for real for real Like
16:37
I'm excited to see How
16:40
is it that are they gonna you know plus
16:42
say this, you know the
16:44
questions. I'm just I'm
16:46
waiting. I'm really excited Because
16:50
I have no idea what the script is gonna be
16:52
so I'm
16:54
I'm actually very excited to see how they're
16:57
gonna play this out. We've
16:59
got five minutes and 30 seconds Mmm, let me
17:01
think let me think let me think Maybe
17:04
we should play some music. I'd like
17:07
some music. I got some video files. Give me a
17:09
second. Let me find one Mmm,
17:12
just to take the edge off something
17:14
fun. I know Well,
17:17
maybe the script writers are having a party
17:19
we should we should yeah this we're having
17:22
a party have a party I
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Moved out the Langley recently with
17:36
a plain and simple dream Wanna
17:39
infiltrate some third world place and
17:41
topple their regime So
17:44
man in black with their mansion
17:46
suitcases where everything's on a need
17:48
to know basis agents got that
17:51
swagger And everyone's so broken and
17:53
feeling nervous, but I'm really kind
17:55
of wishing for an undercover mission
18:00
On the radio and I put my
18:02
earpiece on Got my dark
18:04
sunglasses on And
18:06
I had my weapon drawn Hands up
18:08
I'm getting the van Pearl shall get
18:11
blown away Staging a cool like day
18:13
Staging a cool like day Braint wash
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and moles like it We
18:18
only torture the folks we don't like You're
18:20
probably gonna be okay You're gonna
18:22
be okay Yeah, yeah, yeah It's
18:26
a party in the sea, I hate it Yeah,
18:28
yeah, yeah It's a party in the sea,
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I hate it To
18:58
go by and that's it It's get down
19:00
with CCP, let's try this CCP
19:06
Get down with CCP CCP
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That was Kraz And I love it, and I'm okay
19:13
with it, let's go Here comes
19:15
the debate Now we can
19:17
unmute them We're
19:23
gonna mute them We don't like the music
19:27
Damn that frequency was off The
19:29
charts Holy crap
19:33
Did you hear it? The temporal? Damn,
19:35
damn, damn, damn We're
19:38
gonna mute them We don't need their
19:40
background music I can sing for
19:42
everyone No
19:45
I won't Rumble
19:48
servers are down still So
19:53
China, Rumble is still going Australia
19:56
is still going Australia is still going Africa's
20:01
still going, United Kingdom's
20:03
still going. This is from listeners.
20:08
So, that's interesting. Okay, end
20:10
of music. I
20:12
don't want to play that. Hey.
20:18
We're live from Georgia, a key
20:20
battleground state in the race for
20:23
the White House. In just moments,
20:25
the current US President will debate
20:27
the former US President as their
20:29
party's presumptive nominees, a first in
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former President Donald Trump in
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their rematch for the nation's highest office.
21:02
Each will make his case to the
21:04
American people with just over four months
21:06
until Election Day. Good
21:09
evening. I'm Dana Bash, anchor of CNN's Inside
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Politics and co-anchor of State of the Union.
21:13
I'm Jake Tapper, anchor of CNN's the lead
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and co-anchor of State of the Union. Dana
21:19
and I will co-moderate this evening.
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My job is to facilitate a
21:23
debate between the two candidates tonight.
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Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules
21:28
of the debate with the audience at home. Former
21:31
President Trump will be on the left
21:33
side of the screen. President Biden will
21:35
be appearing on the right. A coin
21:37
toss determined their positions. Each
21:39
candidate will have two minutes to answer
21:41
a question and one minute each for
21:44
responses and rebuttals. An
21:46
additional minute for follow-up clarification or
21:48
response is at the moderator's discretion.
21:52
When it's time for a candidate to
21:54
speak, his microphone will be turned on
21:56
and his opponent's microphone will be turned
21:58
off. candidates interrupt
22:00
when his microphone is muted, he
22:02
will be difficult to understand for
22:04
viewers at home. At
22:07
the end of the debate, each
22:09
candidate will get two minutes for
22:11
closing statements. There is no studio
22:13
audience tonight. Pre-written notes, props or
22:15
contact with campaign staff are not
22:17
permitted during the debate. By
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accepting our invitation to debate
22:21
both candidates and their campaigns,
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agreed to accept these rules.
22:26
Now please welcome the 46th president
22:28
of the United States, Joe Biden.
22:33
So tell me. Thank
22:40
you. And
22:43
please welcome the 45th president of
22:45
the United States, Donald Trump. Gentlemen,
22:59
thanks so much for being here. Let's begin
23:01
the debate and let's start with the issue
23:03
that voters consistently say is there
23:06
top concern, the economy. President
23:08
Biden, inflation has slowed, but
23:10
prices remain high. Since
23:13
you took office, the price of essentials has
23:15
increased. For example, a basket of groceries that
23:17
cost $100 then now costs more than $120.
23:19
And typical home
23:23
prices have jumped more than 30%. What
23:26
do you say to voters who feel they are
23:28
worse off under your presidency than they were under
23:31
President Trump? That's
23:53
exactly what we began to do. 15,000
24:00
new jobs. We brought out a
24:02
position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing
24:05
jobs. But there's more to be done. There's
24:07
more to be done. Working class people are
24:09
still in trouble. I come from
24:11
Scranton, Pennsylvania. I come from a household where the
24:14
kitchen table, if the things weren't
24:16
able to be met during the month, it was a
24:18
problem. The price of eggs, the price of gas, the
24:20
price of housing, the price of a whole range of
24:22
things. That's why I'm working so hard to make sure
24:24
I deal with those problems and
24:26
we're going to make sure that we reduce the
24:28
price of housing. We're going to make sure we
24:30
build two million new units. We're going to make
24:33
sure we cap rents so corporate greed can't take
24:35
over. The combination that I was left with in
24:37
corporate greed is the reason why we're in this
24:39
problem right now. In addition to
24:41
that, we're in a situation where if you had
24:43
to take a look at all that was done
24:45
in his administration, he didn't do much
24:48
at all. By the time he left, there were things
24:50
that were in chaos, literally chaos.
24:53
And so we put things back together. We created,
24:55
I said, those jobs. We make sure we had
24:57
a situation where we now, we
24:59
brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is
25:01
a major issue for many people. It's
25:04
$15 for an insulin
25:06
shot as opposed to $400. No
25:09
senior has to pay more than $200 for any drug, all
25:11
the drugs they could
25:14
include beginning next year. In a
25:16
situation that we're going to make that available to
25:18
everybody, to all Americans. So we're working to bring
25:20
down the price of around the kitchen table and
25:22
that's what we're going to get done. Thank
25:25
you. President Trump. We had the
25:27
greatest economy in the history of our country. We
25:30
have never done so well. Everybody
25:34
was amazed by it. Other countries were copying
25:36
us. We got hit with COVID.
25:39
And when we did, we spent the money necessary
25:41
so we wouldn't end up in a great depression,
25:43
the likes of which we had in 1929. By
25:47
the time we finished, so we did a great
25:49
job. We got a lot of credit for the
25:51
economy, a lot of credit for the military and
25:53
no wars and so many other things. Everything was
25:55
rocking good. But the thing we never got the
25:57
credit for and we should have is getting us
25:59
out of that. the COVID mess. He
26:02
created mandates that was a disaster for
26:04
our country. But other than that, we
26:06
had given them back a country
26:09
where the stock market actually was higher
26:11
than pre-COVID and nobody thought that was
26:13
even possible. The only jobs
26:15
he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce
26:18
back jobs, a bounce back from the COVID.
26:20
He has not done a good job. He's
26:22
done a poor job and inflation's killing our
26:24
country. It is absolutely killing us. Thank
26:27
you, President Biden. Well, look, the
26:29
greatest economy in the world, he's the only one who thinks that,
26:31
I think. I don't know anybody else who thinks he's the greatest
26:34
economy in the world. And
26:36
the fact of the matter is that we prided
26:39
ourselves in a situation where his
26:42
economy, he rewarded the wealthy.
26:44
He had the largest tax cut in American history,
26:46
$2 trillion. He
26:48
raised a deficit larger than any president has in any
26:51
one term. He's the only president
26:53
other than Herbert Hoover, who's lost more jobs
26:55
than he had when he began, since Herbert
26:57
Hoover. The idea that he
26:59
did something that was significant in the
27:01
military. You know, when he
27:03
was president, there were still killing people in
27:05
Afghanistan. He didn't do anything about that.
27:07
When he was president, we were still finding ourselves in
27:09
a position where you had a
27:12
notion that we were this safe
27:14
country. Truth is, I'm
27:16
the only president this century that
27:18
doesn't have any this decade
27:20
to have any troops dying anywhere
27:22
in the world like he did.
27:26
President Trump, I want to follow up You
27:29
want to respond to him? Well, I'm going to ask you a follow up.
27:31
You can do whatever you want with the minute that we give you. I
27:34
want to follow up. You want to impose a 10% tariff
27:36
on all goods coming into the US. How
27:39
will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even
27:41
higher? Not going to drive them higher. It's just
27:43
going to cause countries that have been ripping us
27:45
off for years like China and many others in
27:47
all fairness to China. It's going to just force
27:50
them to pay us a lot of money, reduce
27:52
our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of
27:54
power for other things. But he made a
27:56
statement. The only thing he was right about is I
27:58
gave you the largest. tax cut in
28:00
history. I also gave you the largest regulation cut
28:02
in history. That's why we had all the jobs
28:05
and the jobs went down and then they bounced
28:07
back and he's taking credit for bounced back jobs.
28:09
You can't do that. He also said he
28:11
inherited 9% inflation. No, he inherited almost
28:13
no inflation and it stayed that way
28:16
for 14 months. And then it blew
28:18
up under his leadership because they spent
28:20
money like a bunch of people
28:22
that didn't know what they were doing and
28:24
they don't know what they were doing. It
28:27
was the worst, probably the worst administration in
28:29
history. There's never been. And as far as
28:31
Afghanistan is concerned, I was getting out of
28:33
Afghanistan, but we're getting out with dignity, with
28:35
strength, with power. He
28:37
got out. It was the most embarrassing day
28:39
in the history of our country's life. President
28:42
Trump, over the last eight years under
28:44
both of your administrations, the national debt
28:47
soared to record highs. And according to
28:49
a new nonpartisan analysis, President Trump, your
28:51
administration approved $8.4 trillion in
28:53
new debt. Well, so far, President Biden, you've
28:56
approved $4.3 trillion in new debt. So
28:59
former President Trump, many of the tax cuts
29:01
that you signed into law are set to
29:03
expire next year. You want to extend them
29:05
and go even further, you say, with
29:07
the US facing trillion dollar deficits and
29:10
record debt, why should top earners and
29:12
corporations pay even less in taxes than
29:14
they do now? Because the tax cuts
29:16
spurred the greatest economy that we've ever
29:18
seen just prior to COVID. And even
29:20
after COVID, it was so strong that
29:22
we're able to get through COVID much
29:24
better than just about any other country.
29:26
But we spurred that tax spirit. Now,
29:29
when we cut the taxes, as an example, the
29:31
corporate tax was cut down to 21% from 39%.
29:35
Plus, beyond that, we took
29:37
in more revenue with much less tax
29:39
and companies were bringing back trillions of
29:41
dollars back into our country. The country
29:44
was going like never before. And we
29:46
were ready to start paying down debt.
29:48
We're already using the liquid gold right
29:50
under our feet, the oil and gas
29:52
right under our feet, we were going
29:54
to have something that nobody else has
29:56
had. We got hit with COVID. We
29:58
did a lot to fix it. gave him
30:00
an unbelievable situation with all of the
30:02
therapeutics and all of the things that
30:04
we came up with. We
30:07
gave him something great. Remember, more
30:09
people died under his administration,
30:11
even though we had largely fixed it.
30:13
More people died under his administration than
30:16
our administration. And we were right in
30:18
the middle of it, something which a
30:20
lot of people don't like to talk
30:22
about. But he had far more people
30:24
dying in his administration. He did the
30:26
mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it.
30:29
The vaccine went out. He did a mandate
30:31
on the vaccine, which is the thing that
30:33
people most objected to about the vaccine. And
30:36
he did a very poor job, just
30:38
a very poor job. And I will
30:40
tell you, not only poor there, but
30:42
throughout the entire world, we're no longer
30:44
respected as a country. They don't respect
30:46
our leadership. They don't respect the United
30:48
States anymore. We're like a third world
30:50
nation between weaponization of his election, trying
30:53
to go after his political opponent. All
30:55
of the things he's done, we've become
30:57
like a third world nation. And it's
30:59
a shame. The damage he's done to
31:01
our country. And I'd love to ask
31:03
him and will why he allowed millions
31:05
of people to come in here from
31:07
prisons, jails and mental institutions to come
31:10
into our country and destroy our country.
31:12
President Trump, we will get to immigration later
31:14
in this block. President Biden, I want to
31:16
give you an opportunity to respond to this
31:18
question about the national debt. He
31:21
had the largest national debt of any president for
31:23
your period. Number one, number two, he
31:26
got $2 trillion tax code benefit at
31:28
the very wealthy. I,
31:30
what I'm going to do is fix the tax system. For example, we
31:33
have a thousand billionaires in America, I
31:35
mean, billionaires in America. And what's happening there
31:37
in a situation where they in fact pay
31:39
8.2% in taxes, if they just paid 24%,
31:41
25%, either one of those numbers, they've
31:47
raised $500 million, billion dollars, I should
31:49
say, in a 10 year period, we'd
31:51
be able to wipe out his debt,
31:53
we'd be able to help make sure
31:55
that all those things we need to
31:57
do, childcare, elder care, making sure that
31:59
we continue to do that. to strengthen
32:02
our healthcare system, making sure that we're
32:04
able to make every single solitary person
32:07
eligible for what I've been able to do
32:09
with the COVID, dealing with everything we
32:15
have to do with, look,
32:20
if we finally
32:22
beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden.
32:24
President Trump? Well, he's right.
32:27
He did beat Medicare. He beat it
32:29
to death and he's destroying Medicare because
32:31
all of these people are coming in.
32:33
They're putting them on Medicare. They're putting
32:35
them on Social Security. They're going to
32:37
destroy Social Security. This man is going
32:39
to single handedly destroy Social Security. These
32:41
millions and millions of people coming in,
32:43
they're trying to put them on Social
32:46
Security. He will wipe out Social
32:48
Security. He will wipe out Medicare. So he
32:50
was right in the way he finished that
32:52
sentence. And it's a shame. What's
32:54
happened to our country in the
32:56
last four years is not to be believed.
32:59
Foreign countries, I'm friends with a lot of
33:01
people. They cannot believe what happened to the
33:03
United States of America. We're no longer respected.
33:07
They don't like us. We give
33:09
them everything they want and they think we're
33:11
stupid. They think we're very stupid people. What
33:14
we're doing for other countries and they
33:16
do nothing for us. What this man
33:19
has done is absolutely criminal. Thank
33:22
you, President Trump. Dana. This
33:24
is the first presidential election since the
33:26
Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. This
33:29
morning, the court ruled on
33:31
yet another abortion case temporarily
33:34
allowing emergency abortions to continue
33:36
in Idaho, despite that
33:38
state's restrictive ban. Former
33:40
President Trump, you take credit
33:42
for the decision to overturn Roe v.
33:45
Wade, which returned the issue of abortion
33:47
to the states. However, the
33:50
federal government still plays a role
33:52
in whether or not women have
33:54
access to abortion pills. They're
33:57
used in about two thirds of all
33:59
abortions. As president,
34:01
would you block abortion medication?
34:04
First of all, the Supreme Court just approved
34:07
the abortion pill. And I
34:09
agree with their decision to have done that. And I will
34:11
not block it. And if
34:13
you look at this whole question that you're
34:15
asking, a complex but not really
34:17
complex. 51 years ago, you
34:20
had Roe v. Wade and everybody wanted
34:22
to get it back to the states.
34:25
Everybody without exception. Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives.
34:27
Everybody wanted it back. Religious leaders. And
34:31
what I did is I put three great Supreme
34:33
Court justices on the court. And
34:36
they happened to vote in favor of
34:38
killing Roe v. Wade and moving it
34:40
back to the states. This is something
34:42
that everybody wanted. Now,
34:44
10 years ago or so, they started talking
34:46
about how many weeks and how many this
34:48
getting into other things. But every legal scholar
34:51
throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it
34:53
brought back to the states. I did that.
34:55
Now the states are working it out. If
34:57
you look at Ohio, it was a decision
34:59
that was an end result. It was a
35:01
little bit more liberal than you would have
35:03
thought. Kansas, I would say the
35:05
same thing. Texas is different. Florida is different.
35:09
But they're all making their own decisions right now.
35:11
And right now, the states control it. That's
35:13
the vote of the people. Like
35:16
Ronald Reagan, I believe in the exceptions. I
35:18
am a person that believes. And
35:20
frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions.
35:23
Some people, you have to follow your heart. Some people don't
35:25
believe in that. But I believe
35:27
in the exceptions for rape incest
35:29
and the life of the mother. I think
35:32
it's very important. Some people don't. Follow your
35:34
heart. But you have to get elected also.
35:37
Because that has to do with other things. You've got to
35:39
get elected. The problem they have is
35:41
they're radical because they will take
35:43
the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month,
35:45
and even after birth. After birth, if
35:47
you look at the former governor of
35:49
Virginia, he was willing to do this.
35:53
He said, well, put the baby aside and we'll
35:55
determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll
35:57
kill the baby. What happened is we brought it
35:59
back to the state. and the country is now
36:01
coming together on this issue. It's been a great
36:04
thing. Thank you. President Biden? It's
36:06
been a terrible thing, what you've done. The
36:09
fact is that the vast majority of constitutional
36:11
scholars support it row when it was decided.
36:13
Support it row. And that's
36:16
this idea that they're all against it. It's
36:18
just ridiculous. And this is the guy
36:20
who says the state should be able to have
36:22
it. We're a state where in six weeks, you
36:24
don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but
36:26
you cannot see a doctor have your... and
36:29
have him decide on what your circumstances
36:31
are when you need help. The
36:33
idea that states are able to do this is
36:35
a little like saying, we're going to turn civil
36:37
rights back to the states, that each state have
36:39
a different role. Look, there's so
36:41
many young women who have been, including a
36:43
young woman who just was murdered, and
36:46
he went to the funeral. And the
36:48
idea that she was murdered
36:50
by an immigrant coming
36:52
in, they talk about that. But
36:54
here's the deal. There's a lot of young
36:57
women who are raped by their
36:59
in-laws, by their spouses, brothers
37:02
and sisters. It's just ridiculous.
37:04
And they can do nothing about it. And
37:06
then try to arrest them on the cross
37:09
state line. Thank you. There
37:11
have been many young women murdered by
37:14
the same people he allows to come across
37:16
our border. We have a border that's
37:18
the most dangerous place anywhere in the world,
37:20
considered the most dangerous place anywhere in the
37:22
world. And he opened it up,
37:25
and these killers are coming into our country.
37:27
And they are raping and killing women. And
37:30
it's a terrible thing. As far as the abortion is
37:32
concerned, it is now back with the states, the states
37:34
are voting. In many
37:36
cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision.
37:38
In many cases, it's the opposite. But
37:41
they're voting, and it's bringing it back to the
37:43
vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted,
37:45
including the founders if they knew about
37:48
this issue, which frankly, they didn't. But
37:50
they would have, everybody wanted brought back. Ronald
37:52
Reagan wanted it brought back. He wasn't able
37:55
to get it. Everybody wanted
37:57
it brought back, and many presidents
37:59
had tried. to get it back, I
38:01
was the one to do it. And again, this
38:03
gives it the vote of the people, and that's
38:06
where they wanted it. Every legal scholar wanted it
38:08
that way. Staying on
38:10
the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven
38:12
states, I'll let you do that. This
38:15
is the same topic. Seven states
38:17
have no legal restrictions on how
38:19
far into a pregnancy a woman
38:21
can obtain an abortion. Do
38:24
you support any legal limits on how
38:26
late a woman should be able to
38:28
terminate a pregnancy? I support Roe v.
38:30
Wade, which had three trimesters. First
38:33
time is between a woman and a
38:35
doctor. Second time is between a doctor
38:37
and an extreme situation. A third time
38:39
is between the doctor, I
38:41
mean, between the woman and the state.
38:44
The idea that the politicians, that
38:47
the founders wanted the politicians to be the
38:49
ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous.
38:51
That's the last, no politicians should be making
38:53
that decision. A doctor should be making those
38:56
decisions. That's how it should be run. That's
38:58
what you're gonna do. And if I'm elected, I'm
39:00
gonna restore Roe v. Wade. So
39:03
that means he can take the life of
39:05
the baby in the ninth month and
39:08
even after birth, because some states Democrat
39:10
run, take it after birth. Again, the
39:12
governor, former governor of Virginia, put
39:15
the baby down, then we decide what to do with
39:17
it. So he's willing to, as we
39:19
say, rip the baby out of the womb
39:21
in the ninth month and kill the baby.
39:24
Nobody wants that to happen. Democrat
39:26
or Republican. Nobody wants it to
39:29
happen. That is simply not true. The
39:32
Roe v. Wade does not provide for that.
39:34
That's not the circumstance. Only the woman's life
39:36
is in danger. She's gonna die. That's the
39:38
only circumstance in which that can happen. But
39:41
we are not for late term abortion, period,
39:43
period. Under Roe v.
39:45
Wade, you have late term abortion. You can
39:47
do whatever you want depending on the state.
39:49
You can do whatever you want. We don't
39:51
think that's a good thing. We think it's
39:53
a radical thing. We think the Democrats are
39:55
the radicals, not the Republicans. For 51 years,
39:57
that was a law. 51 years. years, Constance
39:59
was scholarship said it was the right way
40:01
to go. It was still wrong. And
40:04
it was taken away because this guy
40:06
put very conservative members on a screen,
40:08
credit for taking it away. What's he
40:10
going to do? What's he going to
40:12
do? In fact, if the if the
40:14
MAGA Republicans get selected and the MAGA
40:17
Republicans control the Congress and they pass
40:19
on the universal ban on abortion period
40:21
across the board at six weeks or
40:23
seven or eight or ten weeks, something
40:25
very, very conservative, is he going to
40:27
sign that bill? I'll veto it. He'll
40:29
sign it. Thank you. Let's
40:31
turn out of the issue of immigration and
40:34
border security. President Biden, a record number of
40:36
migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on
40:38
your watch, overwhelming border states
40:40
and overburdening cities such as New York
40:43
and Chicago, and in some cases causing
40:45
real safety and security concerns. Given
40:47
that, why should voters trust you to
40:49
solve this crisis? Because we
40:51
worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement
40:54
that not only changed all of that,
40:56
made sure that we are in a situation where
40:59
you had no circumstance where they
41:01
could come across the border with the
41:03
number of border police that are now,
41:06
we significantly increased the number of asylum
41:08
officers, significantly by the way, the border
41:10
patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position. In
41:13
addition to that, we found ourselves in
41:15
a situation where when he was present,
41:17
he was taking, separating babies from their
41:19
mothers, putting them in cages, making sure
41:22
that the families were separated. That's not
41:24
the right way to go. What I've
41:26
done since I've changed the law, what's
41:28
happened, I've changed it in a way
41:30
that now you're in a situation where
41:32
there are 40 percent fewer people coming
41:35
across the border legally, especially when he
41:37
left office. And I'm going to
41:39
continue to move until we get the total ban on
41:42
the total initiative
41:44
relative to what we're going to do
41:46
with more border patrol and more
41:48
asylum officers. President Trump, I
41:51
really don't know what he said at the end of this sentence.
41:53
I don't think he knows what he said either. Look, we
41:56
had the safest border in the history of our country. leave
42:00
it. All he had to do is leave it. He
42:02
decided to open up our border, open up
42:04
our country to people that
42:06
are from prisons, people
42:09
that are from mental institutions in San
42:11
Jose Island, terrorists. We have the
42:13
largest number of terrorists coming into our country right
42:15
now, all terrorists all over the world, not just
42:18
in South America, all over the world. They come
42:20
from the Middle East everywhere, all over the world.
42:22
They're pouring in. And this
42:24
guy just left it open. And he
42:26
didn't need legislation because I didn't have legislation.
42:29
And I said, close the border. We had
42:31
the safest border in history in that final
42:33
couple of months of my presidency. We had,
42:35
according to border patrol, who is great. And
42:37
by the way, who endorsed me for president,
42:39
but I won't say that, but they endorsed
42:42
me for president. Brandon, just
42:44
speak to him. But look, we had the
42:46
safest border in history. Now we have the
42:48
worst border in history. There's never been anything
42:50
like it. And people are dying all over
42:53
the place, including the people that are coming
42:55
up. Thank you, President Trump. President Biden. The
42:57
only terrorist who's done anything across
42:59
the border is one who came
43:02
along and killed three under his
43:04
administration, killed an Al Qaeda person
43:06
coming in and his administration, kill
43:08
three American soldiers, kill three
43:10
American soldiers. That's the only terrorists that
43:13
they're, I'm not saying that no terrorist
43:15
ever got through with the idea they're
43:17
emptying their prisons. We're welcoming these people.
43:19
That's simply not true. There's no data
43:21
to support what he said. Once again,
43:24
he's exaggerating. He's lying. President
43:27
Trump, staying on the topic of immigration,
43:29
you've said that you're going to carry
43:31
out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation
43:33
in American history, unquote. Does that mean
43:35
that you will deport every undocumented immigrant
43:37
in America, including those who have jobs,
43:40
including those whose spouses are citizens and
43:42
including those who have lived here for
43:44
decades? And if so, how will you
43:46
do it? Just one second. He
43:48
said we killed three people. The
43:50
people we killed are Al
43:52
Baghdadi and Sala Mani, the
43:54
two greatest terrorists, biggest terrorists anywhere in the
43:57
world. And it had a huge impact on
43:59
everything, not just. border on everything.
44:02
He's the one to kill people with the bad water,
44:04
including hundreds of thousands
44:06
of people dying and also killing
44:08
our citizens when they come in.
44:10
We are living right now in
44:12
a rat's nest. They're killing our
44:14
people in New York and California
44:16
and every state in the union,
44:18
because we don't have borders anymore.
44:20
Every state is now a border.
44:22
And because of his ridiculous, insane
44:24
and very stupid policies, people are
44:26
coming in and they're killing our
44:28
citizens at a level that we've
44:30
never seen. We call it migrant
44:32
crime. I call it Biden migrant
44:34
crime. They're killing our citizens at
44:36
a level that we've never seen
44:38
before. And you're reading it like
44:40
these three incredible young girls over
44:42
the last few days. One
44:45
of them, I just spoke to the mother and he just
44:48
had the funeral for this girl, 12
44:50
years old. This is horrible. What's taken
44:52
place, what's taken place in our country?
44:55
We're literally an uncivilized
44:57
country now. He doesn't want it to be.
44:59
He just doesn't know. He opened the borders.
45:01
Nobody's ever seen anything like and we have
45:03
to get a lot of these people out
45:05
and we have to get them out fast
45:07
because they're going to destroy our country. Just
45:09
take a look at where they're living. They're
45:11
living in luxury hotels in New
45:14
York City and other places. Our veterans
45:16
are on the street. They're dying because he doesn't
45:18
care about our veterans. He doesn't care. He doesn't
45:20
like the military at all. And he
45:22
doesn't care about our veterans. Nobody's been worse.
45:24
I had the highest approval rating for veterans
45:26
taking care of the VA. He
45:28
has the worst. He's gotten rid of all the
45:30
things that I approved. Choice that I got through
45:32
Congress, all of the different things
45:35
I approved. They abandoned. We had by far
45:37
the highest and now it's down in less
45:39
than half because he's done all these great
45:41
things that we did. And I think he
45:43
did it just because I approved it, which
45:45
is crazy. But he has killed so many
45:47
people at our border by allowing all of
45:49
these people to come in. It's a very
45:51
sad day in America. You have the mic.
45:54
Every single thing he says a lie, every
45:56
single one, for example, veterans are a hell of
45:58
a lot better off. since I passed the PAC
46:01
Act. One million of them now
46:03
have insurance, and their families have it. Their
46:06
families have it because what happened, whether
46:08
it was Agent Orange or Burnpits, they're
46:10
all being covered now. And
46:12
his group opposed that. We're also in
46:14
a situation where we have great respect
46:17
for veterans. My son spent a year in
46:19
Iraq. Later, one of the
46:21
next one of those Burnpits came back with
46:23
stage four glioblastoma. I was
46:25
recently in France
46:27
for D-Day, and I
46:29
spoke all about those heroes that died. I
46:32
went to the World War II cemetery. World
46:34
War I cemetery he refused to go to.
46:36
He was standing with his four-star general, and he told me,
46:39
he said, I don't want to go in there because there's
46:41
a bunch of losers and suckers. My son
46:43
was not a loser, was not a sucker. You're
46:45
the sucker. You're the loser. President
46:47
Trump? First of all,
46:49
that was a made-up quote. Suckers and losers. They
46:51
made it up. It was in a third-rate magazine
46:54
that's failing, like many of these magazines. He
46:56
made that up. He put it in commercials.
46:58
We've notified him. We had 19 people
47:01
that said I didn't say it. And think
47:03
of this, who would say, I'm at a
47:05
cemetery or I'm talking about our veterans because
47:07
nobody's taking better care. I'm so glad this
47:09
came up, and he brought it up. There's
47:12
nobody that's taken better care of our soldiers than
47:14
I have. To think that
47:16
I would, in front of generals and
47:18
others, say suckers and losers. We have
47:20
19 people that said it was
47:23
never said by me. It was made
47:25
up by him, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was
47:27
made up, just like the 51 intelligence
47:29
agents are made up, just
47:32
like the new thing with the 16 economists
47:34
are talking. It's the same thing. 51
47:36
intelligence agents said that the laptop
47:39
was Russia disinformation. It wasn't. That
47:41
came from his son, Hunter. It
47:44
wasn't Russia disinformation. He made up the
47:46
suckers and losers. He should apologize to
47:49
me right now. Four-star
47:51
General Sanders side was on your
47:53
staff who said you said it,
47:55
period. That's number one. And
47:57
number two, the idea, the idea that I'm
47:59
not I have to apologize to you for
48:01
anything along the line. We've done more for
48:04
veterans than any president has in American history.
48:06
American history, and they now are in their family,
48:08
the only sacred obligation we have as a country
48:11
is to care for our veterans when they come
48:13
home and their families and equip them when they
48:15
go to war. That's what we're
48:17
doing. That's what the VA is doing now.
48:19
They're doing more for veterans than ever before
48:21
in our history. All right, thank
48:23
you so much. Let's move to the topic
48:26
of foreign policy. I want to begin with
48:28
Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in
48:30
its third year. Former
48:32
President Trump, Russian President Vladimir
48:34
Putin says he'll only end
48:37
this war if Russia
48:39
keeps the Ukrainian territory it has
48:41
already claimed and Ukraine
48:43
abandons its bid to join
48:45
NATO. Are Putin's terms
48:47
acceptable to you? First of all, our
48:50
veterans and our soldiers can't stand
48:52
this guy. They can't stand
48:54
him. They think he's the worst commander in chief,
48:57
that's what you call him, that
48:59
we've ever had. They can't stand him. So let's
49:01
get that straight. And they like me
49:03
more than just about any of them. And
49:06
that's based on every single bit of
49:08
information. As far as Russia and Ukraine,
49:10
if we had a real president, the
49:12
president that knew, that was respected by
49:15
Putin, he would have never,
49:17
he would have never invaded Ukraine. A
49:19
lot of people are dead right now, much more
49:21
than people know. You know, they talk about numbers.
49:23
You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers.
49:26
He did nothing to stop it. In fact, I think
49:28
he encouraged Russia from going in. I'll
49:30
tell you what happened. He was so
49:33
bad with Afghanistan. It was such a
49:35
horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the
49:37
history of our country, that when Putin
49:39
watched that and he saw the incompetence
49:41
that he should have fired those generals,
49:43
like I fired the one that you
49:45
mentioned. And so he's got no love
49:47
loss, but he should have fired those
49:49
generals. No general got fired for the
49:52
most embarrassing moment in the history of
49:54
our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions
49:56
of dollars of equipment behind. We lost
49:58
13 beautiful soldiers. soldiers and
50:00
38 soldiers were obliterated. And by the
50:02
way, we left people behind too. We
50:04
left American citizens behind. When Putin
50:07
saw that, he said, you know what?
50:09
I think we're going to go in
50:11
and maybe take my, this was his
50:13
dream. I talked to him about his
50:15
dream. The difference is he never would
50:17
have invaded Ukraine. Never. Just
50:20
like Israel would have never been invaded
50:23
in a million years by Hamas. You
50:26
know why? Because Iran was broke
50:28
with me. I wouldn't let anybody do business with
50:30
them. They ran out of money. They were broke.
50:33
They had no money for Hamas. They had no
50:35
money for anything. No money for terror. That's why
50:37
you had no terror at all during
50:39
my administration. This place,
50:41
the whole world is blowing up under him. President
50:45
Biden. I've never heard so much
50:47
malarkey in my whole life. Look, the fact of the matter
50:49
is that we're in a situation where let's take the last
50:51
point first. Iran attacked
50:54
American troops, kill, cause
50:56
brain damage for a number of these
50:59
troops. And he did nothing about
51:01
it recently. When he was president, there they
51:03
attacked. He said they're just having headaches. That's
51:05
all it is. He didn't do
51:07
a thing when they attacked took place.
51:09
Number one, number two, we
51:12
got over 100,000 Americans
51:14
and others out of
51:16
Afghanistan during that airlift. Number
51:19
three, we found ourselves in a situation where
51:21
if you take a look at what Trump
51:23
did in Ukraine, he said,
51:25
this guy told Ukraine, told Trump, do
51:28
whatever you want and do whatever you
51:30
want. And that's exactly what
51:32
Trump did to Putin. Encourage
51:34
him, do whatever you want. And he went in
51:36
and listen to what he said when he went
51:38
in. He was going to take Kiev in five
51:41
days. Remember, because it's part of the old Soviet
51:43
Union. That's what he wanted to reestablish. Kiev.
51:46
And he in fact didn't do it at all. He didn't want
51:48
to get it done. And they've lost over.
51:51
They've lost thousands and thousands of troops, 500,000
51:53
troops. President
51:56
Trump, I never said that for one
51:58
minute. I just want to go back
52:00
to my original question. Which is our
52:02
Putin's terms acceptable to you keeping the
52:04
territory in your brand. No, they're not
52:06
acceptable But look, this is
52:08
a war that never should have started if we had
52:10
a leader in this war He led
52:12
everybody along he's given 200 billion
52:15
dollars now or more To
52:17
Ukraine. He's given 200 billion dollars. That's
52:19
a lot of money. I don't think there's ever
52:21
been anything like it every time that Zelensky
52:24
comes to this country walks away with 60
52:26
billion dollars He's the greatest salesman ever and
52:29
I'm not knocking him. I'm not knocking anything.
52:31
I'm only saying The
52:33
money that we're spending on this war
52:36
and we shouldn't be spending it should
52:38
have never happened I will have that
52:40
war settled between Putin and
52:42
Zelensky as President-elect before
52:44
I take office on January 20th. I'll
52:47
have that war settled people
52:49
being killed so needlessly so Stupidly
52:51
and I will get it settled
52:53
and I'll get it settle fast
52:55
before I take office You
52:58
have a minute The
53:00
fact is that Putin is a war criminal. He's
53:03
killed Thousands and thousands of
53:05
people and he has made one
53:07
thing clear He wants to reestablish
53:09
what was part of the Soviet Empire not
53:11
just a piece who wants all of Ukraine
53:14
That's what he wants. And then you think
53:16
you'll stop there. You think you'll stop when
53:18
he would be if he takes Ukraine
53:20
What do you think happens the pole? What do you think?
53:23
Bailers what do you think happens to those NATO
53:25
countries? And so if you want
53:27
a war you ought to find out what he's
53:29
gonna do because if in fact He does what
53:31
he says and walks away By the way all
53:34
that money we give Ukraine and from weapons
53:36
We make here in the United States given
53:38
the weapons not the money at this point
53:41
and then and our NATO allies have produced
53:43
as much Fundament for
53:45
Ukraine as we have that's why it's
53:47
that's why we're strong Thank
53:49
you moving on to the Middle East in
53:52
October Hamas attacked Israel Killing
53:55
more than a thousand people and taking
53:57
hundreds of hostages among those
53:59
held in to still be alive
54:01
are five Americans. Israel's
54:03
response has killed thousands of Palestinians
54:05
and created a humanitarian crisis in
54:08
Gaza. President Biden, you've
54:11
put forward a proposal to
54:13
resolve this conflict, but
54:15
so far Hamas has not released the
54:18
remaining hostages and Israel is continuing
54:20
its military offensive in Gaza. So
54:23
what additional leverage will you use to
54:25
get Hamas and Israel to end the
54:27
war? You have two minutes. Number
54:30
one, everyone from
54:32
the United Nations Security Council
54:36
straight through to the G7, to the
54:38
Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan that
54:40
put forward, endorsed the plan that put
54:42
forward, which has three stages to it. The
54:45
first stage is to trade
54:47
the hostages for a ceasefire.
54:50
Second phase is a ceasefire with additional
54:52
conditions. The third phase is no,
54:54
the end of the war. The only one
54:56
who wants the war to continue is Hamas. Number
54:59
one, they're the only ones standing out. We're
55:01
still pushing hard to
55:03
get them to accept. In the meantime, what's
55:05
happened in Israel, we're finding the
55:08
only thing I've denied Israel was
55:10
2,000 pound bombs. They
55:12
don't work very well in populated areas. They kill
55:14
a lot innocent people. We're providing Israel
55:16
with all the weapons they need and when they need
55:18
them. And by the way, I'm the
55:20
guy that organized the world against Iran
55:22
when they had a full blown intercontinental
55:25
ballistic missile attack on
55:27
Israel. No one was
55:30
hurt. No one Israeli was accidentally
55:32
killed and it stopped.
55:34
We saved Israel. We are the
55:36
biggest producer of support for
55:38
Israel of anyone in the world. And
55:41
so that's, there are two different things. Hamas
55:43
cannot be allowed to be continued. We
55:46
continue to send our experts and our
55:48
intelligence people to how they can get
55:50
Hamas like we did bin Laden. You
55:52
don't have to do it. And by
55:54
the way, they've been greatly weakened Hamas,
55:56
greatly weakened and they should be eliminated.
56:00
you've got to be careful for
56:02
what using certain weapons among population
56:04
centers. Just
56:07
going back to Ukraine for one second. We
56:10
have an ocean separating us. The
56:12
European nations together have spent
56:15
100 billion or maybe
56:17
more than that, less than us. Why
56:20
doesn't he call them, so you got to put up
56:22
your money like I did with NATO. I got them
56:24
to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. The secretary
56:27
general of NATO said Trump did the most incredible job
56:29
I've ever seen. You wouldn't, they wouldn't have any, they
56:31
were going out of business. We were spending almost 100%
56:34
of the money was paid by us. He
56:37
didn't do that. He's getting all, you
56:39
got to ask these people to put up the
56:42
money. We're over a hundred billion dollars more spent
56:44
and it has a bigger impact on them because
56:46
of location, because we have an ocean in between.
56:49
You got to ask them as far as Israel
56:52
and Hamas. Israel's
56:55
the one that wants to go. He said the only
56:57
one that wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually Israel,
57:02
let him go and let him finish. He doesn't want to do it.
57:04
He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like
57:06
him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one.
57:10
President Biden, you have a minute. I've never heard so
57:12
much foolishness. This is a guy who wants to get
57:14
out of NATO. You're going to stay in NATO. He's
57:16
going to pull out of NATO. The idea
57:18
that we have our strength lies
57:21
in our alliances as well. It
57:23
may be a big ocean, but we're ever
57:25
able to avoid a war in Europe, a
57:27
major war in Europe. What happens if in
57:30
fact you have Putin continue to go into
57:32
NATO? We have an article five agreement attack
57:34
on one is attack on all. You want
57:36
to start the nuclear war. He keeps talking
57:38
about, go ahead, let Putin go in and
57:41
control Ukraine and then move on to Poland
57:43
and other places. See what happens then. He
57:45
has no idea what tell he's talking about.
57:47
By the way, I got 50 other
57:50
nations around the world to support
57:52
Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea,
57:54
because they understand that this kind
57:57
of dislocation has a serious threat.
57:59
So the whole world peace. No
58:02
major war in Europe has ever been able to be contained
58:04
just to Europe. President
58:06
Trump, just to follow up, would
58:09
you support the creation of an independent
58:11
Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in
58:13
the region? I'd have to see. But before we do
58:15
that, the problem we have is
58:17
that we spend all the money. So
58:19
they kill us on trade. I made great
58:21
trade deals with the European nations because
58:24
if you add them up, they're about the same
58:26
size economically. Their economy is about
58:28
the same size as the United States. And
58:31
they were no cars. No, they don't want
58:33
anything that we have. But we're supposed to
58:35
take their cars, their food, their everything, their
58:37
agriculture. I changed that. But
58:40
the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay. And
58:42
the only reason that he can play
58:44
games with NATO is because I got
58:46
them to put up hundreds of billions
58:48
of dollars. I said, and he's
58:51
right about this. I said, no, I'm
58:53
not going to support NATO if you don't pay. They
58:55
asked me that question. Would you guard us
58:57
against Russia at a very secret meeting of
58:59
the 28 states
59:01
at that time, nations at that time? And I
59:04
said, no, if you don't pay, I won't
59:06
do that. And you know what happened? Billions
59:08
and billions of dollars came flowing in the
59:10
next day and the next months. But
59:13
now we're in the same position. We're
59:15
paying everybody's bills. Let's turn
59:17
to the issue of democracy. Former President
59:19
Trump, I want to ask you about January 6,
59:22
2021, after you rallied your supporters
59:24
that day. Some of them stormed
59:27
the Capitol to stop the constitutionally
59:29
mandated counting of electoral votes. As
59:31
president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve,
59:33
protect and defend, unquote, the Constitution. What do
59:36
you say to voters who believe that you
59:38
violated that oath through your actions and inaction
59:40
on January 6 and worried that you'll do
59:42
it again? Well, I don't think too many
59:44
believe that. And let me tell you about
59:46
January 6. On January
59:48
6, we had a great border.
59:51
Nobody coming through. Very few. On
59:53
January 6, we were energy independent. On January
59:55
6, we had the lowest taxes ever. We
59:58
had the lowest regulations ever. On
1:00:00
January 6th, we were respected all over the
1:00:02
world. All over the world, we
1:00:05
were respected. And then he comes in and
1:00:07
we're now left at. We're like a bunch
1:00:09
of stupid people. What
1:00:11
happened to the United States' reputation
1:00:13
under this man's leadership is
1:00:16
horrible, including weaponization, which I'm sure at some
1:00:18
point you'll be talking about, where he goes
1:00:21
after his political opponent because he can't beat
1:00:23
him fair and square. You
1:00:25
have 80 seconds left. My question was, what
1:00:27
do you say to those voters who believe
1:00:29
that you violated your constitutional oath
1:00:32
through your actions and an action on
1:00:34
January 6th, 2021 and worry that you'll
1:00:36
do it again? Well, I didn't say
1:00:38
that to anybody. I said peacefully and
1:00:40
patriotically. And Nancy Pelosi, if you just
1:00:43
watched the news from two days ago,
1:00:45
on tape to her daughter, who is
1:00:48
a documentary filmmaker, they say, but
1:00:50
she's saying, oh, no, it's my responsibility.
1:00:53
I was responsible for this because I
1:00:55
offered her 10,000 soldiers or
1:00:57
National Guard and she turned them
1:00:59
down in the mayor of in writing,
1:01:01
by the way, the mayor in writing turned
1:01:03
it down. The mayor of of DC, they
1:01:06
turned it down. I offered 10,000 because
1:01:08
I could see I had virtually
1:01:11
nothing to do. They asked me to go make a
1:01:13
speech. I can see what was happening.
1:01:15
Everybody was saying they're going to be there on January 6th.
1:01:17
They're going to be there. And I said, you know what?
1:01:19
There's a lot of people coming. You could feel it. You
1:01:21
could feel it too. And you could feel it. And I
1:01:24
said, they ought to have some National
1:01:26
Guard or whatever. And I
1:01:28
offered it to her and she now admits
1:01:30
that she turned it down and it was
1:01:32
the same day. She was, I don't know,
1:01:34
he can't be very happy with her daughter
1:01:36
because it made her into a liar. She
1:01:38
said, I take full responsibility for January 6th.
1:01:42
President Biden. Look,
1:01:45
he encouraged those folks to look at Capitol.
1:01:47
Number one, I sat in the
1:01:49
dining room off the Oval Office. He sat there for
1:01:52
three hours, three hours watching,
1:01:54
begging, being begged by his vice president
1:01:57
and a number of his colleagues on
1:01:59
the Republican side as well. to do
1:02:01
something, to call for a stop, to
1:02:03
end it. Instead, they've talked about the
1:02:05
people being patriots and great
1:02:07
patrons of America. In fact, he says
1:02:09
he'll not forgive them for what they've
1:02:11
done. They've been
1:02:14
convicted. He says he wants to commute their
1:02:16
sentences and say that no.
1:02:19
He went to every single court in the nation. I
1:02:21
don't know how many cases, scores
1:02:24
of cases, including Supreme Court, and
1:02:26
they said, they said, no, no,
1:02:28
this guy, this guy is responsible
1:02:30
for doing what is being done.
1:02:32
He did do a damn thing
1:02:35
and these people should be in jail and
1:02:37
they should be the ones who are being
1:02:39
held accountable. And he wants to let them
1:02:41
all out. And now he says that he
1:02:43
loses again such a whiner that he is,
1:02:45
that he could be a bloodbath. Thank you,
1:02:47
President Biden. President Trump? What
1:02:49
they've done to some people that are so
1:02:51
innocent, you ought to be ashamed
1:02:53
of yourself. What you have done, how you've destroyed the
1:02:56
lives of so many people, when
1:02:58
they rip down Portland, when they rip
1:03:00
down many
1:03:02
other cities, you go to Minnesota,
1:03:04
Minneapolis, what they've done there with
1:03:07
the fires all over the city. If I didn't bring
1:03:09
in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed.
1:03:12
When you look at all of the, they
1:03:14
took over big chunks of Seattle. I was all set
1:03:16
to bring in the National Guard. They heard that, they
1:03:19
saw them coming and they left immediately.
1:03:22
What he said about this whole
1:03:24
subject is so off, peacefully
1:03:26
patriotic. One other thing, the
1:03:29
Unselect Committee, which is basically
1:03:32
two horrible Republicans that are all
1:03:34
gone now out of office and
1:03:37
Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and
1:03:39
deleted all of the information they
1:03:41
found because they found out we
1:03:43
were right. We were right
1:03:45
and they deleted and destroyed all of the information. They
1:03:47
should go to jail for that. If a Republican did
1:03:49
that, they'd go to jail. Thank you, President Trump. President
1:03:51
Biden, I want to give you a minute. The
1:03:54
only person in this stage is a convicted felon, is
1:03:56
the man I'm looking at right now. And
1:03:58
the fact of the matter is... He isn't he's
1:04:01
what he's telling you is simply not true The
1:04:03
fact is that there was no effort
1:04:05
on his part to stop what was
1:04:07
going on up in Capitol
1:04:12
Hill and all those people every one of
1:04:14
those who are convicted is turned over desk
1:04:17
Turn them over statutes the idea
1:04:19
that those people are patriots Come
1:04:22
on, and I asked him the
1:04:24
first two debates. We had the debates We had
1:04:26
first time around I said will
1:04:28
you denounce the Proud Boy? He said
1:04:30
no, I'll tell them to stand by The
1:04:33
idea he's refusing to announce
1:04:35
these guys we'd announce the
1:04:37
people we're talking about now We'd announce
1:04:39
the people attack that capital. What
1:04:42
are you gonna do? I'm
1:04:44
gonna give you a minute President
1:04:46
Trump for a follow-up question. I have
1:04:50
After a jury convicted you of 34
1:04:52
felonies last month You said if reelected
1:04:54
you would quote have every right to
1:04:56
go after unquote your political opponents You
1:04:58
just talked about members of the select
1:05:00
committee on January 6 going to jail
1:05:03
Your main political opponent is standing on stage with
1:05:05
you tonight Can you clarify exactly what
1:05:07
it means about you feeling you have every
1:05:09
right to go after your political opponents? Well,
1:05:11
I said my retribution is going to be
1:05:13
success We're gonna make this country successful again
1:05:15
because right now it's a failing nation My
1:05:18
retribution is going to be success But
1:05:21
when he talks about a convicted felon his son
1:05:23
is a convicted felon at a
1:05:25
very high level His son is convicted gonna
1:05:27
be convicted probably numerous other times should have
1:05:29
been convicted before but his justice apartment Let
1:05:31
the statute of limitations lapse on the most
1:05:34
important things But he could be a convicted
1:05:36
felon as soon as he gets out of
1:05:38
office Joe could be a convicted felon with
1:05:40
all of the things that he's done He's
1:05:42
done horrible things all of the death cause
1:05:44
at the border Telling the
1:05:47
Ukrainian people that we're gonna want a
1:05:49
billion dollars or you change the prosecutor
1:05:51
Otherwise, you're not getting a billion dollars.
1:05:53
Have I ever said that that's
1:05:55
quid pro quo that we're
1:05:57
not gonna do anything We're not gonna
1:05:59
give you a $1 million unless you change your
1:06:01
prosecutor having to do with the Sun. This man
1:06:03
is a criminal. This man, you're
1:06:06
lucky. You're lucky. I did nothing wrong. We'd
1:06:08
have a system that was rigged and disgusting.
1:06:10
I did nothing wrong. Thank you, President Trump.
1:06:12
President Biden, you have said, I'm coming right
1:06:14
to you, sir. You, well,
1:06:17
you want to respond? Go ahead. I'll give you a minute to respond. The
1:06:19
idea that I
1:06:21
did anything wrong relative to
1:06:23
what you're talking about is outrageous. It's
1:06:26
simply a lie. Number one. Number
1:06:29
two, the idea that
1:06:31
you have a right to seek retribution
1:06:33
against any American just because your
1:06:36
president is wrong. No
1:06:39
president's ever spoken like that before.
1:06:42
No president in our history has spoken like that before.
1:06:44
Number three, the crimes that
1:06:47
you are still charged with. And think of
1:06:49
all the civil penalties you have. How many
1:06:51
billions of dollars do you owe in
1:06:53
civil penalties for, for molesting
1:06:55
a woman in public for
1:06:58
doing a whole range of things of
1:07:00
having sex with a porn star on the
1:07:02
night while your wife was
1:07:05
pregnant? I mean, what, what are you talking
1:07:07
about? You have
1:07:09
the morals of an alley cat. Give
1:07:12
him that, sir. I didn't have sex with a
1:07:14
porn star. Number one. Number two, that was a
1:07:16
case that was started and moved.
1:07:18
They moved a high ranking official,
1:07:20
a DOJ into the Manhattan DA's office
1:07:23
to start that case. That case is
1:07:25
going to be appealed in one. We
1:07:27
had a very terrible judge,
1:07:29
a horrible judge Democrat. The
1:07:32
prosecutor were all high ranking
1:07:34
Democrats, appointed people and
1:07:36
the, both the civil and
1:07:38
the criminal. He basically went after his political opponent
1:07:40
because he thought it was going to damage me.
1:07:43
But when the public found out about these cases,
1:07:45
they understand him better than he does. He has
1:07:47
no idea what these cases are. But what he
1:07:49
did, when they found out about these cases, you
1:07:51
know, they did. My poll numbers went up way
1:07:54
up. You know that cause you're reporting it. And
1:07:56
we took in more money in the last two
1:07:58
weeks than we've ever taken. in the
1:08:00
history of any campaign, I don't
1:08:02
think any campaign has ever taken. Hundreds
1:08:05
of millions of dollars came pouring in
1:08:07
because the public knows it's a scam
1:08:09
and it's a guy that's after his
1:08:12
political opponent because he can't win fair
1:08:14
and square. Thank you, President Trump. President
1:08:16
Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump
1:08:18
and his MAGA Republicans are determined to
1:08:21
destroy American democracy. Do you
1:08:23
believe that the tens of millions of
1:08:25
Americans who are likely to vote for
1:08:27
President Trump will be voting against American
1:08:29
democracy? The more they know about what
1:08:32
he's done, yes. The more
1:08:34
they know about what he's done. And there's
1:08:36
a lot more coming. He's got a lot of cases around the
1:08:38
road coming around. He's got a whole
1:08:40
range of issues he has to face. I
1:08:42
don't know what the jury's will do, but
1:08:45
I do know he has a real problem. And
1:08:47
so the fact that, could you ever
1:08:49
think you heard any president say that I'm
1:08:51
gonna seek retribution? Did you ever hear any
1:08:54
president say that I thought Hitler had some
1:08:56
good ideas? What got me involved to run
1:08:58
the first place after my son died, I
1:09:00
decided in Iraq because of Iraq, I
1:09:02
said I wasn't gonna run again until I
1:09:05
saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
1:09:07
People coming out of the woods
1:09:09
carrying swastikas aren't torches, torches. And
1:09:11
seeing the same anti-Semitic bio they
1:09:14
sang when they were back in
1:09:16
Germany. And the young woman got
1:09:18
killed. I spoke to the mother and
1:09:20
they asked him, they said, what
1:09:22
do you think of those people? The people who
1:09:25
got killed, the one who tried to stop it,
1:09:27
and the ones he said, I think they're fine
1:09:29
people on both sides. What
1:09:31
American president would ever say,
1:09:34
Nazis coming out of fields
1:09:36
carrying torches, singing the same
1:09:39
anti-Semitic bio, carrying swastikas, or
1:09:41
fine people? This is a guy
1:09:43
who says Hitler's done some good things. I'd like to know
1:09:46
what they are. The good things Hitler's
1:09:48
done, that's what he said. This guy has
1:09:50
no sense of American democracy. President
1:09:53
Trump. Jake, both of you know that, sir,
1:09:55
has been totally wiped out.
1:09:57
Because when you see the sentence, it said,
1:16:00
to be done. But we've done a great deal so
1:16:02
far and I'm not letting up and they know it.
1:16:05
You have 49 seconds left. What
1:16:07
do you say to black voters who
1:16:10
are disappointed with the progress so far?
1:16:12
I say I don't blame them for
1:16:14
being disappointed. Inflation is still hurting them
1:16:16
badly. For example, I provided for the
1:16:18
idea that any black family
1:16:20
first time homebuyer should get a $10,000
1:16:23
tax credit to be able to buy their first
1:16:25
home so they can get started.
1:16:27
I made sure that we're in a
1:16:30
situation where all those black families and
1:16:32
those black individuals who provided had to
1:16:34
take out student loans that were ballooning.
1:16:37
They had a favor and engaged in nursing,
1:16:41
anything having to do with volunteerism. If
1:16:44
they paid their bills for 10 years and
1:16:46
their student debt, all the rest was
1:16:48
forgiven after 10 years. Millions have benefited
1:16:50
from that and we're going to
1:16:52
do a whole lot more from black families. Thank
1:16:55
you, President Trump. And he
1:16:57
caused the inflation. He's blaming inflation
1:17:00
and he's right, it's been very bad. He
1:17:02
caused the inflation and it's killing black
1:17:04
families and Hispanic families and just about
1:17:07
everybody. It's killing people. They
1:17:09
can't buy groceries anymore. They can't, you
1:17:11
look at the cost of food where
1:17:13
it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled. They
1:17:16
can't live. They're not living anymore. He
1:17:18
caused this inflation. I gave him a
1:17:21
country with no, essentially no inflation. It was
1:17:23
perfect. It was so good. All he had
1:17:26
to do is leave it alone. He destroyed
1:17:28
it with his green new scam and all
1:17:30
of the other, all this money that's being
1:17:32
thrown out the window. He caused inflation. As
1:17:35
sure as you're sitting there, the
1:17:37
fact is that his big
1:17:39
kill on the black people
1:17:41
is the millions of people that he's allowed
1:17:43
to come in through the border. They're taking
1:17:45
black jobs now and it could be 18,
1:17:48
it could be 19 and even
1:17:50
20 million people. They're taking black jobs and
1:17:52
they're taking Hispanic jobs and you haven't seen
1:17:54
it yet, but you're going to see something
1:17:56
that's going to be the worst in our
1:17:58
history. Thank you. of Biden? There
1:18:01
was no inflation when I
1:18:03
became president. You know why? The economy was flat
1:18:05
on its back. 50% unemployment.
1:18:08
He decimated the economy, absolutely decimated
1:18:10
the economy. That's why there was
1:18:12
no inflation at the time. There
1:18:15
were no jobs. We provided
1:18:17
thousands of millions of jobs for individuals
1:18:19
who are involved communities, including minority communities.
1:18:21
We made sure that they have health
1:18:23
insurance. We have covered, if the ACA
1:18:25
has increased, I made sure that they're
1:18:28
$8,000 per person of a family to
1:18:30
get written off in health care. But
1:18:32
this guy wants to eliminate that. They
1:18:34
tried 50 times. He wants to get
1:18:36
rid of the ACA again, and
1:18:39
they're going to try again if they win.
1:18:41
We find ourselves in a position where the
1:18:43
idea that we're not doing it, I
1:18:45
put more, we put more police
1:18:47
on the street than any administration has.
1:18:50
He wants to cut the cops. We're
1:18:52
providing for equity, equity in making sure
1:18:54
people have a shot to
1:18:56
make it. There's a lot going
1:18:59
on, but in inflation, he caused
1:19:01
it by his tremendous malfeasance in
1:19:03
the way he handled the pandemic.
1:19:06
Thank you. Another persistent challenge is
1:19:08
the climate crisis. 2023
1:19:11
was the hottest year in recorded history,
1:19:14
and communities across the country
1:19:16
are confronting the devastating effects of
1:19:18
extreme heat, intensifying wildfires,
1:19:20
stronger hurricanes, and rising sea
1:19:22
levels. Former President Trump,
1:19:25
you've vowed to end your opponent's
1:19:27
climate initiatives, but will you take
1:19:29
any action as president to slow
1:19:32
the climate crisis? Let me just
1:19:34
go back to what he said about the police,
1:19:37
how close the police are to him.
1:19:39
Almost every police group in the nation
1:19:41
from every state is supporting
1:19:44
Donald J. Trump, almost every police
1:19:46
group. And what he's done
1:19:48
to the black population is horrible, including the
1:19:50
fact that for 10 years he called them
1:19:52
super predators. We can't in the 1990s,
1:19:55
we can't forget that super predators was his name,
1:19:57
and he called it to him for 10, and
1:19:59
they've taken great. great offense at it and now they
1:20:01
see it happening. But when they
1:20:03
see what I did for criminal justice
1:20:05
reform and for the historically black colleges
1:20:08
and universities where I funded them
1:20:10
and got them all funded and
1:20:12
the opportunity zones with
1:20:14
Tim, as you know, Tim Scott was
1:20:16
incredible. He did a great job, great
1:20:18
Senator from South Carolina. He came
1:20:20
to me with the idea and it was a great
1:20:23
idea. It's one of the most successful economic development acts
1:20:25
ever in the country, opportunity zones. And
1:20:28
the biggest beneficiary are blacks. And that's
1:20:30
why we have the best numbers
1:20:33
with them in maybe ever.
1:20:35
They're saying ever. I read this morning where
1:20:37
ever the best numbers, he's
1:20:39
lost much of the black
1:20:41
population because he's done a horrible
1:20:44
job for black people. He's also done a
1:20:46
horrible job for Hispanics. But where do you
1:20:48
see these millions of people pouring into our
1:20:50
country and they're going to take the jobs
1:20:53
and it's already started and you haven't seen
1:20:55
anything yet. It's a disaster. 5
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1:21:13
seconds left, President Trump. Will you
1:21:16
take any action as president to
1:21:18
slow the climate crisis? So I
1:21:20
want absolutely immaculate, clean water. And
1:21:23
I want absolutely clean air. And we
1:21:26
had it. We had H2O. We
1:21:28
had the best numbers ever. And
1:21:31
we did, we were using all
1:21:33
forms of energy, all forms, everything. And
1:21:36
yet during my four years,
1:21:38
I had the best environmental numbers
1:21:41
ever. And my top environmental people
1:21:43
gave me that statistic just before I walked on
1:21:45
the stage, actually. I
1:21:48
don't know where the hell he's been. The
1:21:50
idea that he said is true.
1:21:54
I passed the most
1:21:56
extensive climate change legislation
1:21:58
in history. history.
1:22:01
We find ourselves and by the way, black colleges,
1:22:03
I came up with
1:22:05
$15 billion for HBCUs, historic black universities
1:22:07
and colleges, because they don't have those.
1:22:10
They don't have the kind of contributors
1:22:12
that they have to build
1:22:15
these laboratories and all like. Any
1:22:17
black student is capable in college or doing any white
1:22:19
student can do. He doesn't have the money, but now
1:22:21
they'll be able to get those jobs
1:22:23
in high tech. We're in a situation where
1:22:25
the idea that he is claiming
1:22:28
to have done something that had
1:22:30
the cleanest water, the cleanest
1:22:32
water, he had not a damn
1:22:34
thing in the environment. He, out of
1:22:36
the Paris Peace Accord, Climate Accord, I
1:22:39
immediately joined him because if we get
1:22:41
H for 1.5 degrees Celsius
1:22:43
at any one point where there's no way
1:22:45
back, the only existential threat to humanity is
1:22:47
climate change and he didn't do a damn
1:22:49
thing about it. He must undo all that
1:22:51
I've done. The
1:22:53
Paris Accord was going to cost us a
1:22:56
trillion dollars and China nothing
1:22:58
and Russia nothing and India nothing. It
1:23:00
was a ripoff of the United States
1:23:03
and I ended it because I didn't want to
1:23:05
waste that money because they treat us horribly. We
1:23:07
were the only ones who was costing us money.
1:23:09
Nobody else was paying into it and it was
1:23:11
a disaster. But
1:23:14
everything that he said just now, I'll give you an
1:23:16
example. I heard him say before insulin, I'm
1:23:18
the one that got the insulin down for
1:23:20
the seniors. I took care of the seniors.
1:23:22
What he's doing is destroying all of
1:23:24
our medical programs because the migrants coming in,
1:23:26
they want everybody and look I have the
1:23:28
I have the biggest heart on the stage,
1:23:30
I guarantee you that and I
1:23:33
want to take care of people but
1:23:35
we're destroying our country. They're taking over
1:23:37
our schools, our hospitals and they're going
1:23:39
to be taking over Social Security. He
1:23:41
is destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
1:23:47
The idea is that we in
1:23:49
fact, we were the
1:23:52
only ones of consequence. We're not
1:23:54
we're not members of the Paris
1:23:56
Accord. How can we do anything?
1:23:58
We've not able the United States. can't take this
1:24:01
under control. One of the largest
1:24:03
polluters in the world, number one,
1:24:05
are making significant progress. By 2035,
1:24:07
we will have pollution in half.
1:24:09
We have made significant
1:24:11
progress and we continue to
1:24:14
make progress. We set up a climate
1:24:16
core. There's thousands of young people who
1:24:18
will learn how to deal with, just
1:24:20
like Peace Corps, and we're going to,
1:24:22
we're moving in directions that are going
1:24:24
to significantly change the elements of cause
1:24:27
of pollution. But the idea that he
1:24:29
claims that he has the biggest heart
1:24:31
up here and he's really concerned about
1:24:34
pollution and about climate, I've not
1:24:36
seen any indication of that. And
1:24:38
by the way, with regard to
1:24:41
prescription drugs, one company
1:24:44
agreed that they would reduce the price
1:24:46
to $35, which I was calling for
1:24:48
one voluntarily. I made sure
1:24:50
every company in the world, every pharmaceutical
1:24:52
company, cannot have to pay. And by
1:24:55
the way, so
1:24:58
every day millions of Americans struggle just
1:25:00
to make ends meet for many older
1:25:02
Americans. Social security provides a critical lifeline.
1:25:04
President Biden, if nothing is done to
1:25:07
social security, seniors will see their benefits
1:25:09
cut in just over 10 years. Will
1:25:11
you name tonight one specific step that
1:25:14
you're willing to take to keep social
1:25:16
security solvent? Yes, make the very wealth
1:25:18
they began to pay their fresh air.
1:25:21
Right now, everybody making
1:25:24
under $170,000 pays 6% of
1:25:27
their income, of their paycheck, every single time they
1:25:29
get a paycheck from the time the first one
1:25:31
they get when they're 18 years old. The
1:25:34
idea that they're going to, I'm not, I've
1:25:36
been proposing that everybody, they
1:25:38
pay, the millionaires pay
1:25:40
1%, 1%.
1:25:43
So no one after, I would not
1:25:45
raise the cost of social security for anybody
1:25:47
under $400,000. After that,
1:25:49
I began to make the wealthy, began to pay
1:25:51
their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to
1:25:54
be able to guarantee the program for life.
1:25:57
So you still have 82 seconds left. Are
1:25:59
there any other measures that you think that
1:26:01
would be able to help keep Social Security
1:26:03
solvent or is that one enough? Well, that
1:26:05
one enough will keep it solvent, but the
1:26:07
biggest thing I'll do if we defeat this
1:26:10
man because he wants to get
1:26:12
rid of Social Security. He thinks there's plenty
1:26:14
to cut in Social Security. He's wanted to
1:26:16
cut Social Security and Medicare both times. And
1:26:19
if you look at the program put
1:26:21
forward by the House Republican Caucus that
1:26:24
he supports, he's in fact
1:26:26
wanted to cut it as well. The
1:26:28
idea that we don't need to
1:26:30
protect our seniors is ridiculous. We
1:26:33
put, and by the way, American
1:26:35
public has greater health care coverage
1:26:37
today than ever before. And
1:26:40
on the ACA, as I said, you're
1:26:42
in a circumstance where 400,000 people, 40
1:26:44
million people would not
1:26:48
have insurance because they have a preexisting condition.
1:26:50
Only allows them to have that insurance is
1:26:52
the fact that they in fact are part
1:26:54
of the ACA. And by the
1:26:57
way, the other thing is we're in a
1:26:59
situation where I talk about education for black
1:27:02
communities. I've raised the number,
1:27:04
the amount of money for Pell Grants, another
1:27:06
$8,000. So anybody making under $70,000
1:27:08
a year, going to be able to get $15,000 towards
1:27:10
their tuition. He
1:27:15
just doesn't know what he's talking about. Thank
1:27:17
you, President Biden, President Trump. So I've dealt
1:27:19
with politicians all my life.
1:27:22
I've been on this side of the
1:27:24
equation for the last eight years. I've
1:27:27
never seen anybody lie like this guy. He
1:27:30
lies. I've never seen that he could look
1:27:32
you in the face. So about so many other things too.
1:27:35
And we mentioned the laptop. We mentioned
1:27:37
Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Everything
1:27:40
he does is a lie. It's
1:27:42
misinformation and disinformation. The
1:27:45
losers and suckers story that he made up is
1:27:47
a total lie on the military. It's
1:27:49
a disgrace. But social security,
1:27:52
he's destroying it because millions of people
1:27:55
are pouring into our country and they're
1:27:57
putting them onto social security. They're putting
1:27:59
them onto Medicare. They're putting them in
1:28:01
our hospitals. They're taking the place of
1:28:03
our citizens there. What they're doing to
1:28:05
the V.A., to our veterans, is unbelievable.
1:28:07
Our veterans are living in the street,
1:28:09
and these people are living in luxury
1:28:11
hotels. He doesn't know what
1:28:13
he's doing, and it's really
1:28:15
coming back. I've never seen such anger
1:28:18
in our country before. President
1:28:20
Biden? The idea that veterans are not
1:28:22
being taken care of, I told you before. By the
1:28:25
way, when I said suckers and losers, he said he
1:28:27
acknowledged after that he fired that gentleman. That
1:28:29
gentleman got fired because he's the
1:28:32
one that acknowledged that that's what he said. He
1:28:34
was the one standing with Trump when he said
1:28:36
it, number one. Number
1:28:38
two, the idea that we're going to
1:28:40
be in a situation where all these
1:28:42
millions and millions, the way he
1:28:45
talks about it, illegal aliens are coming
1:28:47
into the country and taking away our jobs,
1:28:49
there's a reason why we have the fastest
1:28:51
growing economy in the world, the reason why
1:28:53
we have the most successful economy in the
1:28:55
world. We're doing better than
1:28:57
any other nation in the world. And
1:28:59
by the way, those 15 Nobel laureates he
1:29:01
talked about being phony, those 15 Nobel
1:29:04
laureates, economists, they all said that if
1:29:06
Trump is reelected, we're elected to have
1:29:09
a recession, and inflation is
1:29:11
going to increasingly go up. And
1:29:13
by the way, worst president in
1:29:15
history, 159 presidential scholars voted him
1:29:17
the worst president in the history of the United States of America.
1:29:19
President Biden, thank you so much. Let's
1:29:22
turn to the cost of childcare, which many American families
1:29:24
struggle to afford. President Trump,
1:29:26
both you and President Biden have tried
1:29:28
to address this issue. But the
1:29:30
average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more
1:29:32
than $11,000 a year per child. For
1:29:36
many families, the cost of childcare for two
1:29:38
children is more than their rent. In
1:29:41
your second term, what would you do to
1:29:43
make childcare more affordable? Just
1:29:46
to go back, the general got fired because
1:29:48
he was no good. And if
1:29:50
he said that, that's why he made it up. But we
1:29:53
have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and
1:29:55
they're very highly respected, much more so than him. The
1:29:57
other thing is, he... He
1:30:00
doesn't fire people. He never
1:30:02
fired people. I've never seen him fire anybody. I
1:30:04
did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he
1:30:06
was no good. I fired a lot of the
1:30:08
top people at the FBI. I drained the swamp.
1:30:10
They were no good. Not easy to fire people.
1:30:12
You'd pay a price for it, but they were
1:30:14
no good. I inherited these people. I didn't put
1:30:16
him that input. Call me there. He was no
1:30:18
good. I fired him. This guy hasn't fired anybody.
1:30:20
He never fires. He should have
1:30:22
fired every military man that was
1:30:25
involved with that Afghan, the
1:30:27
Afghanistan horror show, the
1:30:29
most embarrassing moment in the history of our
1:30:31
country. He didn't fire. Did
1:30:33
you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that's on
1:30:36
the border that's allowed us to have the worst
1:30:38
border in the history of the world? Did anybody
1:30:40
get fired for allowing 18 million
1:30:42
people, many from prisons, many
1:30:44
from, from mental institutions? Did you
1:30:46
fire anybody that allowed our country
1:30:49
to be destroyed? Joe,
1:30:51
our country is being destroyed as you and I
1:30:53
sit up here and waste a lot of time
1:30:55
on this debate. This shouldn't be a debate. He's
1:30:58
the worst president. He just said about me because
1:31:00
I said it. But look, he's the worst president
1:31:02
in the history of our country. He's destroyed our
1:31:04
country. Now all of a sudden he's trying to
1:31:06
get a little tough on the border. He come
1:31:09
out, came out with a nothing,
1:31:11
a nothing deal and it reduced it
1:31:13
a little bit, a little bit like
1:31:15
this much. It's insignificant. He wants open
1:31:17
borders. He wants our country to either
1:31:20
be destroyed or he wants to pick
1:31:22
up those people as voters. And
1:31:25
I don't think we just can't let
1:31:27
it happen. If he wins this election,
1:31:29
our country doesn't have a chance, not
1:31:31
even a chance of coming
1:31:34
out of this rut. We probably won't have
1:31:36
a country left anymore. That's how bad it
1:31:38
is. He is the worst in history by
1:31:40
far. Thank you, president Trump. President
1:31:42
Biden. We are the most admired country in
1:31:44
the world with the United States of America.
1:31:47
There's nothing beyond our capacity. You're the finest
1:31:49
military in the history of the world, the
1:31:51
finest in the history of the world. No
1:31:54
one thinks we're weak. No one wants
1:31:56
to screw around with us. Nobody. Number
1:31:58
one, number two. The idea
1:32:00
that we're talking about worst presidents. I
1:32:03
wasn't joking. Look it up. Go online.
1:32:06
159 or 58 don't hold me the
1:32:08
exact number. Presidential historians,
1:32:10
they've had meetings, and they voted,
1:32:13
who's the worst president in American
1:32:15
history, best to worst.
1:32:17
They said he was the worst in
1:32:19
all of American history. That's a fact.
1:32:22
That's not conjecture. He can argue
1:32:24
they're wrong, but that's what they voted. The
1:32:26
idea that he is knowing, doing anything to
1:32:29
deal with child care. He
1:32:31
did very virtually nothing to child care.
1:32:33
We should significantly increase the child care
1:32:35
tax credit. We should significantly increase the
1:32:37
availability of women and men or single
1:32:40
parents to be able to go back
1:32:42
to work. And we should encourage
1:32:44
businesses to hold, to have. Thank you, President Biden.
1:32:46
President Trump, the question was about what would you
1:32:48
do to make child care more affordable if you
1:32:50
want to take your minute? Just so you understand,
1:32:54
we have polling. We have other things that
1:32:56
they rate them the worst. Because what he's
1:32:58
done is so bad. And they
1:33:00
rate me, I'll show you. I will show you. And they
1:33:02
rate me one of the best, OK? And
1:33:05
if I'm given another four years, I will be
1:33:07
the best. I think I'll be the best. Nobody's
1:33:10
ever created an economy
1:33:12
like us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us.
1:33:15
He's the only one I know. He wants
1:33:17
to raise your taxes by four times. He
1:33:19
wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times.
1:33:21
He wants to trump tax cuts to expire.
1:33:24
So everybody, including the two of you, are
1:33:26
going to pay four to five times. Nobody
1:33:28
ever heard of this before. All my life,
1:33:30
I'd grow up and I see politicians talking
1:33:33
about cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as
1:33:35
I said, we did more business. Apple and
1:33:37
all these companies, they were bringing money
1:33:40
back into our country. The
1:33:42
worst president in history by far, and everybody
1:33:44
knows it. President Biden? Look,
1:33:46
the fact of the matter is
1:33:48
that he's dead wrong about. He's
1:33:50
increased the tariff. He's increased, he
1:33:52
will increase the taxes on middle
1:33:54
class people. I said I'd never
1:33:56
raise a tax upon anybody. I'm making less than $400,000.
1:34:00
Didn't this tariff is 10% tariffs everything
1:34:02
coming in the country. You know what
1:34:04
their economists say that's gonna cost the
1:34:06
average American $2,500
1:34:09
a year more because they're gonna have to
1:34:12
pay the difference in food and
1:34:14
all the things that are important number
1:34:16
two He's in a situation
1:34:18
where he talks about how he is
1:34:20
not raised He
1:34:23
somehow helped the middle class Little
1:34:25
class have been devastated by you now
1:34:27
You want a new tax cut of
1:34:30
five trillion dollars over the next ten
1:34:32
years? Which is going to fundamentally bankrupt
1:34:34
the country you have the largest deficit
1:34:36
of any president American history number one
1:34:38
number two You have not in fact
1:34:41
made any contact any any
1:34:43
any progress with China We
1:34:46
are the lowest trade deficit with China since
1:34:48
2010. Thank you, President President
1:34:51
but let's introduce discuss an epidemic impacting millions
1:34:53
of Americans that both of you have made
1:34:55
a top priority in your first term the
1:34:58
opioid crisis and for both of you
1:35:01
the number of Overdose deaths
1:35:03
in this country has gone up under your
1:35:05
term. It went up under your term It
1:35:07
has gone up a former president
1:35:10
Trump despite the efforts that both of you
1:35:12
have made more than a hundred thousand Americans
1:35:14
are dying From overdoses every year primarily from
1:35:16
fentanyl and other opioids What will you do
1:35:19
to help Americans right now in the throes
1:35:21
of addiction who are struggling to get the
1:35:23
treatment they need? to
1:35:25
finish up We now
1:35:27
have the largest deficit in the history of our
1:35:29
country under this guy. We have
1:35:31
the largest deficit with China He
1:35:34
gets paid by China. He's a Manchurian candidate.
1:35:36
He gets money from China We
1:35:38
have so I think he's afraid to deal with over something
1:35:41
But do you notice he never took out my
1:35:43
tariffs because we bring in so much money with
1:35:45
the tariffs that I imposed on China He
1:35:47
never took him away. He can't because it's too
1:35:49
much money. It's tremendous and we saved our steel
1:35:51
industries And there was more to come but he
1:35:54
hasn't done that But he
1:35:56
hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't
1:35:58
because it's too much money, but he's
1:36:00
got the largest deficit in the history
1:36:02
of our country. And he's got the
1:36:04
worst situation with China. China is going
1:36:06
to own us if you keep allowing
1:36:09
them to do what they're doing
1:36:11
to us as a country. They are killing
1:36:13
us as a country, Joe, and you can't
1:36:15
let that happen. You're destroying our country. So,
1:36:18
President Trump, you have 67 seconds left. The
1:36:20
question was, what are you going to do
1:36:22
to help Americans in the throes of addiction
1:36:24
right now who are struggling to get the
1:36:26
treatment they need? Jake, we were doing very
1:36:28
well at addiction until the COVID came along.
1:36:30
We had the two and a half, almost
1:36:32
three years of like nobody's ever had before
1:36:34
any country in every way. And
1:36:36
then we had to get tough. And it was
1:36:38
the drugs pouring across the border where
1:36:41
it started to increase.
1:36:43
We got great equipment. We bought the certain
1:36:45
dog. That's the most incredible thing that you've
1:36:47
ever seen, the way they can spot it.
1:36:50
We did a lot. And we had, we
1:36:52
were getting very low numbers, very, very low
1:36:54
numbers. Then he came along. The numbers, have
1:36:56
you seen the numbers now? It's not only
1:36:58
the 18 million people that I believe is
1:37:00
even low because they got a ways, they
1:37:03
don't even talk about got a ways. But
1:37:06
the numbers of the amount
1:37:08
of drugs and human traffic in women
1:37:11
coming across our border, the worst thing
1:37:13
I've ever seen at
1:37:15
numbers that nobody's ever seen under him because the
1:37:17
border is so bad. But
1:37:19
the number of drugs coming across our
1:37:21
border now is the largest we've
1:37:24
ever had by far. President Trump, thank you.
1:37:26
President Biden. Fentanyl and the byproducts
1:37:28
of fentanyl went down for a while.
1:37:31
And I wanted to make sure we use them
1:37:33
machinery that can detect fentanyl. These big machines that
1:37:35
roll over everything that comes across the border. And
1:37:38
it costs a lot of money. That was part
1:37:40
of this deal we put together. This bipartisan deal,
1:37:43
more fentanyl machines, more, more be
1:37:45
able to detect drugs, more, more
1:37:47
of a numbers of agents,
1:37:50
more numbers of all the people
1:37:52
at the border. And when we had
1:37:54
that deal done, he went, he called his
1:37:57
Republican colleagues and don't do it. It's going to hurt
1:37:59
me. No, he never
1:38:01
argued it's not a good bill. It's a really
1:38:03
good bill. We need those machines.
1:38:05
We need those machines. And we're coming down
1:38:07
very hard in every country in Asia in
1:38:10
terms of precursors from fentanyl. And Mexico is
1:38:12
working with us to make sure they don't
1:38:14
have the technology to be able to put
1:38:16
it together. That's what we
1:38:18
have to do. We need those machines. Thank
1:38:21
you, President Biden, President Trump. And again, the question
1:38:23
is about Americans in the throes
1:38:25
of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment
1:38:27
they need. Just because this
1:38:29
does pertain to it. He ended
1:38:31
remain in Mexico. He
1:38:33
ended catch and release. I made a catch and
1:38:35
release in Mexico, not catch and release here. We
1:38:38
had so many things that we had done,
1:38:40
hard negotiations with Mexico. And I got it
1:38:42
all for nothing. It's just like
1:38:44
when he have a hostage. We always pay $6
1:38:47
billion for every time we say it's a hostage.
1:38:49
Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal
1:38:51
reporter. I think a good
1:38:53
guy. And he's over there
1:38:56
because Putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking
1:38:58
for big news. Billions of dollars for
1:39:00
the reporter. I will have him out
1:39:03
very quickly. As soon as I take
1:39:05
office before I take office, I said
1:39:08
by literally as soon as
1:39:10
I win the election, I will have that reporter
1:39:12
out. He should have had him out a long
1:39:14
time ago. But Putin's probably asking for billions and
1:39:17
billions of dollars because this guy pays it every
1:39:19
time. We had two cases. We
1:39:21
paid $6 billion for five people. I
1:39:23
got 58 people out and I
1:39:25
paid essentially nothing. Thank
1:39:28
you, President Trump. Dana. Let's
1:39:30
turn to concerns that voters have about each of you. President
1:39:33
Biden, you would be 86 at
1:39:36
the end of your second term. How
1:39:38
do you address concerns about
1:39:40
your capability to handle the toughest job
1:39:42
in the world well into your 80s?
1:39:46
Well, first of all, I spent half
1:39:48
my career being
1:39:50
criticized as being the youngest person in
1:39:52
politics. I was the second youngest person
1:39:55
ever elected to the United States Senate. Now
1:39:57
I'm the oldest. This guy's three years younger.
1:40:00
less competent. I think that just
1:40:02
look at the record. Look at what I've done. Look,
1:40:04
I've turned around the horrible situation you left me. As
1:40:06
I said, 15 million new jobs, 800,000
1:40:09
manufacturing jobs, more investment in America,
1:40:12
over millions, billions of dollars in
1:40:15
private investment in enterprises
1:40:17
that we are growing. By the way, we brought
1:40:19
an awful lot of people, the
1:40:22
whole idea of computer chips. We used to
1:40:25
have 40% of the market. We invented those
1:40:27
chips and we lost it
1:40:29
because he was sending people to find
1:40:32
the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring
1:40:34
home a product. So I went to
1:40:36
South Korea. I convinced Samsung to invest
1:40:38
billions of dollars here in the United
1:40:41
States. And guess what?
1:40:43
Those fabs, they call to build
1:40:45
these chips. Those fabs pay over
1:40:47
$100,000. You don't need a college
1:40:51
degree for them. And there's billions,
1:40:53
about $40 billion already being invested
1:40:55
and being built right now in
1:40:57
the United States, creating significant jobs
1:40:59
for Americans from all over the
1:41:02
world. President Biden, you have 40 seconds
1:41:04
left. Would you like to add anything? Yeah, I would.
1:41:07
The idea that somehow we
1:41:10
are this failing country. I've never
1:41:12
heard a president talk like this before.
1:41:15
We're the envy of the world. Name
1:41:17
me a single major country president who
1:41:19
wouldn't trade places with the United States
1:41:21
of America for all our problems and
1:41:24
all our opportunities. We're the most
1:41:26
progressive country in the world in getting things done. We're
1:41:29
the strongest country in the world. We're a
1:41:31
country in the world who keeps our word
1:41:33
and everybody trusts us, all of our allies
1:41:35
and our, and our, and our, those who
1:41:37
he calls up to from Kim Jong Il,
1:41:40
he sends love letters to him, Putin, et
1:41:42
cetera. They don't want to screw around with
1:41:44
us. Thank you. Former
1:41:46
president Trump, to follow up, you would be
1:41:49
82 at the end of your second term.
1:41:51
What do you say to voters who
1:41:53
have concerns about your capabilities to serve?
1:41:56
Well I took two tests, cognitive tests. I aced
1:41:58
them, both of them, as you know. We
1:42:00
made it public. He took none. I'd like to see
1:42:02
him take one. Just one a real easy one I
1:42:05
go through the first five questions you couldn't do it,
1:42:07
but I took two cognitive tests I
1:42:09
took physical exams every year and
1:42:12
you know, we knock on wood wherever we
1:42:14
may have would that I'm in
1:42:16
very good health I just won two club
1:42:18
championships not even senior two regular club championships
1:42:20
to do that You have to be quite
1:42:23
smart and you have to be able to hit the ball
1:42:25
a long way and I do it He doesn't do it.
1:42:28
He can't hit a ball 50 yards. He challenged me to
1:42:30
a golf match. He can't hit a ball 50 yards I
1:42:33
think I'm in very good shape. I feel that I'm as
1:42:35
in good shape as I was 25-30
1:42:37
years ago actually I'm probably a little bit lighter,
1:42:40
but I'm in as good a shape as I was
1:42:44
Years ago. I feel very good. I feel the same but
1:42:46
I took I was willing to take a cognitive test and
1:42:48
you know What if I didn't do well, I aced him
1:42:51
Dr. Ronnie Jackson who's a
1:42:53
great guy when he was White House doctor And then I
1:42:55
took another one a similar one and
1:42:57
both one of them said they'd never seen anybody
1:43:00
ace him. Thank you President Biden
1:43:03
you can see he is six foot five and only
1:43:06
223 pounds or 23 to five pounds Well,
1:43:09
you said six four two hundred Anyway,
1:43:13
that's it. You're anyway, just take
1:43:15
a look at what he says He is and take a look at
1:43:17
what he is. Look, I'd be happy to have
1:43:19
a driving contest with him Reem I
1:43:21
got my handicap which when I was
1:43:23
vice president down to a six And
1:43:27
by the way, I told you before I'm happy to
1:43:29
play golf if you carry your own bag Think
1:43:32
you can do it He's
1:43:35
a six handicap of all I was
1:43:38
a handicap. Yeah, hey But
1:43:41
I haven't you know, I've seen this way that I
1:43:43
know you swing Let's
1:43:47
not act like children Specific
1:43:50
concern that voters have about you
1:43:53
Will you pledge tonight that
1:43:55
once all legal challenges have been
1:43:57
exhausted that you will accept? stupid
1:48:00
decisions. Russia would have never
1:48:02
attacked. The question
1:48:04
was, will you accept the results of
1:48:06
the election, regardless of who wins? Yes
1:48:08
or no, please. If it's
1:48:11
a fair and legal and good election.
1:48:13
Absolutely. I would have much rather accepted
1:48:15
these. But the the fraud and everything
1:48:18
else was ridiculous. And if you want,
1:48:20
we'll have a news conference on it
1:48:22
in a week. I will have another
1:48:24
one of these on in a week.
1:48:27
But I will absolutely there's
1:48:29
nothing I'd rather do. It would be
1:48:32
much easier for me to do that.
1:48:34
Then I'm running again. I wasn't really
1:48:36
going to run until I
1:48:38
saw the horrible job he did. He's
1:48:41
destroying our country. I would be very
1:48:43
happy to be someplace else in a
1:48:45
nice location someplace. And again, no
1:48:48
indictments, no political opponents stuff, because it's
1:48:50
the only way he thinks he can
1:48:52
win. But unfortunately, it's driven up by
1:48:54
numbers and driven them up to a
1:48:56
very high level is the people understand
1:48:58
it. Let's see what your numbers are.
1:49:00
And selection is over. Let's
1:49:02
see. You're a whiner. When you
1:49:04
lost the first time you see
1:49:06
you continued your appeal and appeal
1:49:08
to courts all across the country.
1:49:10
Not one single court in America
1:49:13
said any of your claims that
1:49:15
any merit state or local none,
1:49:18
but you continue to provoke this
1:49:21
lie about somehow there's all this misrepresentation,
1:49:23
all this stealing. There is no reason
1:49:25
to there's no evidence of that at
1:49:28
all. And I tell you
1:49:30
what, I doubt whether you'll accept
1:49:32
it because you're such a whiner. Yeah,
1:49:34
if you lose again, you accepted anything.
1:49:36
You can't stand the loss something snapped
1:49:39
and you wouldn't have lost the last time. We'll
1:49:42
be right back with more
1:49:44
from the CNN presidential debate. No,
1:49:46
you can all smoke. Okay. Okay.
1:49:49
Well, we wait for them to
1:49:51
get back. I just scribble some things. Okay. So
1:49:53
first of all, the golf comet, that
1:49:55
is the mentality of a five year
1:49:57
old. And that's what Biden brought. That's
1:50:01
all you add. Talking about it is
1:50:03
handicap. We know your handicap, Joe. You
1:50:06
look like you've just had a stroke.
1:50:08
Right? Let's just be fair. Another
1:50:10
thing. What the heck? Black children
1:50:12
get this. Black people get this.
1:50:14
Black people get that. They're
1:50:17
the only one suffering. I'm sorry.
1:50:20
I'm Olive. Right?
1:50:22
I'm Greek. Right? And I'm struggling,
1:50:24
you know, to pay bills. All of
1:50:26
us are. What
1:50:28
I used to get for $100 under
1:50:30
Trump was three times as much as
1:50:32
what I get now. Right?
1:50:35
So that was ridiculous. Another one, he's
1:50:37
like, Oh, I gave black families $10,000
1:50:39
so they can buy a house. Why
1:50:42
didn't I get $10,000? Oh, I was
1:50:44
the wrong skin color, according to
1:50:47
Joe. Right? This is what they
1:50:49
do. They buy your votes. They
1:50:52
buy their votes to what? Enslave them,
1:50:54
fill up their jail. Because that's what
1:50:56
they do. He calls them.
1:50:59
I'm not even gonna repeat it. But
1:51:01
they all want to bring them to heal.
1:51:04
Right? And that's the way it is.
1:51:06
The other one. Did
1:51:08
you guys hear him? swallow?
1:51:11
Like tell me because I'm wearing a headset.
1:51:15
And it's noise canceling. And
1:51:17
I'm like, what was that? He
1:51:20
swallowed really, really hard.
1:51:22
So that was interesting. The
1:51:26
other one, what the heck is
1:51:28
thousand of millions of jobs. This
1:51:30
guy's making up numbers
1:51:33
now. Right? To suit whatever he
1:51:35
wants. And I have
1:51:38
to say, President Trump hit it.
1:51:41
You know, misinformation and disinformation. And
1:51:44
that's not only from the left,
1:51:46
it's coming from the right. He
1:51:48
said with the Russia hoax with
1:51:50
Ukraine, missed and disinformation, which is
1:51:53
key because that's coming down the
1:51:55
pipeline. And then, and then, I
1:51:58
told you they're gonna hit on the age. I
1:52:00
told you that was going to be a topic
1:52:02
because they need to get rid of Biden. I
1:52:05
said this years ago that they're going to bring gap. Now
1:52:09
he appears during the debate. Oh, I'm
1:52:11
just here is like helping out with
1:52:13
the campaign. Yeah, because when whatever happens
1:52:15
to Joe, oh, and he's out, you
1:52:17
just slide right in saying, well, I'm
1:52:19
a good understudy. So yeah,
1:52:21
that's good. You know, that's basically
1:52:23
what it is. And,
1:52:27
and you know, what's crazy is that
1:52:29
everybody can see this. There
1:52:31
is no way someone on the left
1:52:34
is in. I'm we're watching the Palestinian
1:52:36
protesters, the climate changers and all their
1:52:38
journalists. Right. And they're saying how Joe
1:52:41
is doing horribly and we need to
1:52:43
get rid of him. They're
1:52:46
the only ones that can actually get him
1:52:48
in because they're the bullies to bully people.
1:52:50
They're the ones that hate their skin color.
1:52:53
You know, the well, right
1:52:55
outside the debate stage, they've got a
1:52:57
couple of groups there. He's actually going
1:52:59
into New York tomorrow and they're going
1:53:01
to ambush him at some LGBTQ thing.
1:53:04
Like nobody wants him in. This
1:53:07
is why this is the only debate left
1:53:10
and they're back. Closing statements
1:53:12
as predetermined by a coin toss.
1:53:14
We're going to begin with you,
1:53:16
President Biden. You have two minutes.
1:53:22
We've made significant progress
1:53:25
from the debacle that was left by
1:53:27
President Trump. And it is last
1:53:29
term. We find
1:53:32
ourselves in a situation where, number one, we
1:53:34
have to make sure that we have a fair tax system.
1:53:39
I ask anyone out there in the audience, anyone
1:53:42
out watching this debate, do
1:53:44
you think the tax system is fair? The
1:53:47
fact is that I said nobody
1:53:49
would make it under $400,000 had a single penny increasing
1:53:54
their taxes and if
1:53:56
I'm reelected, that would be the case again. But
1:53:59
this guy is. has increased your
1:54:01
taxes because of deficit. Number
1:54:03
one, he's increased inflation because of the
1:54:05
debacle he left after when he
1:54:08
handled the pandemic. And he finds
1:54:10
himself in a position where he now wants to
1:54:12
tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on
1:54:14
everything that comes into the United States of America.
1:54:17
What I did, when for example, he
1:54:19
wants to get rid
1:54:21
of the ability of Medicare for
1:54:25
the ability for
1:54:28
us to be able to negotiate drug prices with
1:54:30
a big pharma companies. Well,
1:54:33
guess what? We got it down
1:54:35
to $35 for insulin instead of $400. No
1:54:41
more than $2,000 for every senior, no
1:54:45
matter how much they need. You
1:54:48
know what that did? That reduced the federal
1:54:50
debt by $160 billion over
1:54:55
10 years because the government doesn't have to
1:54:57
pay the exorbitant prices. I'm gonna
1:54:59
make that available to every senior all
1:55:02
along, it's happening now, and
1:55:04
everybody in America, he wants to get rid of
1:55:06
that. We have, I gotta
1:55:09
make sure that we have childcare. We're
1:55:11
gonna significantly increase the credits people have
1:55:13
for childcare. I'm gonna
1:55:15
make sure we do something about what we're
1:55:17
doing on lead pipes and all the things
1:55:19
that are causing health problems
1:55:22
for people across the country. We're
1:55:24
gonna continue to fight to bring down inflation
1:55:28
and give people a break. Thank you,
1:55:31
President Biden, President Trump. You now have two minutes
1:55:33
for your closing statement. Like so
1:55:35
many politicians, this man is just
1:55:37
a complainer. He said, we wanna do this, we
1:55:39
wanna do that. We wanna get rid of this
1:55:41
tax, that tax. But he doesn't do
1:55:43
anything. He doesn't, only does
1:55:45
this make our country unsafe by
1:55:47
allowing millions and millions of people to
1:55:50
pour in. Our military doesn't
1:55:52
respect him. We look like fools in
1:55:54
Afghanistan. We didn't
1:55:56
stop Israel. It was such a
1:55:58
horrible thing that would have never. debate
1:58:01
points and if they're actually honest.
1:58:03
But let's just say
1:58:05
that what was
1:58:07
really weird and it's silent on
1:58:10
their end by the way, Biden
1:58:14
said that President Trump increased
1:58:16
using up this. The
1:58:21
president, former president making their way
1:58:23
off the CNN debate stage like
1:58:26
Joe Biden the first time. All right,
1:58:28
so that's all I wanted to say that
1:58:30
Joe Biden said that President
1:58:33
Trump was the one
1:58:35
that increased everything. President Trump allegedly
1:58:38
has not been president for
1:58:40
about four years. So I don't know how
1:58:42
he did all that without being president. Let's
1:58:44
take a commercial break. Party
1:59:40
strategists, it involves elected officials,
1:59:43
it involves fundraisers, and
1:59:45
they're having conversations about the president's performance, which
1:59:47
they think was dismal, which they think will
1:59:49
hurt other people down the party in the
1:59:51
ticket. And they're having conversations about what they
1:59:53
should do about it. Some of those conversations
1:59:56
include should we go to the White House
1:59:58
and ask the president step aside. Others are.
2:00:00
other of the conversations are about, should prominent
2:00:02
Democrats go public with that call? Because
2:00:05
they feel this debate was so terrible. They
2:00:07
do say, in moments in the debate later, the
2:00:10
president got better and got his footing, but then
2:00:12
at the end, even his closing statement was a
2:00:14
little halting. The contrast between the two candidates. Let
2:00:16
me be clear, none of them, and a lot
2:00:18
of Republicans, don't think Donald Trump
2:00:20
had a great night. Donald Trump broke the fact
2:00:22
check machine more than I can count tonight. That
2:00:24
will be on the record as we go forward.
2:00:27
He refused to answer some very specific and direct
2:00:29
questions about his conduct, about January 6th and what
2:00:31
all. So that will be dealt with out there.
2:00:33
And sometimes there's a parallel universe between the political
2:00:35
elites and the American people. It'd be nice to
2:00:37
see what the voters say, but I can tell
2:00:40
you, it started minutes in. It started with the
2:00:42
first couple of answers and it has continued throughout
2:00:44
the night from, oh my God, oh my God,
2:00:46
oh my God, to what do we do about
2:00:48
this? And it involves very senior people in the
2:00:51
Democratic Party, including elected officials, saying we have a
2:00:53
problem. And just to cosign what John is saying,
2:00:55
I mean, the panic that I am hearing
2:00:57
from Democrats is not like anything that I have
2:00:59
heard in this campaign so far.
2:01:02
And a lot of it has to do with, first
2:01:04
of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies.
2:01:06
I mean, he lied a lot tonight. But
2:01:09
the problem for Biden was that Trump was
2:01:11
able to take some
2:01:13
sometimes incredible falsehoods and
2:01:15
turn them into some kind of
2:01:18
argument, whereas Biden's answers were in
2:01:20
a lot of cases, not coherent,
2:01:23
deeply problematic that he was able to
2:01:25
take pretty straightforward
2:01:27
answers and answer them to
2:01:30
the American public. And then also at some point.
2:01:32
So I let it go like a couple minutes
2:01:34
so we can pause and then fast forward over
2:01:36
the stupid shit. So I was
2:01:38
right again. This debate was just
2:01:41
to get rid of Joe. We pressured them
2:01:43
when I sent that letter to
2:01:45
my legislators in Ohio. You
2:01:47
see, you can always move the needle with
2:01:50
just a tiny little letter. You can always
2:01:52
move the needle, tiny, tiny, tiny. So here's
2:01:54
where Gavin Newsom makes his end trends. And
2:01:57
it's exactly like I said, they need.
2:02:00
the debate in order to be like,
2:02:02
look, we're really concerned. Like we really
2:02:04
like him, but we need someone else
2:02:07
because it wasn't a good debate. And
2:02:09
then this chick, oh, he's skewing things.
2:02:11
It's like totally lies. But
2:02:13
he was making total sense and he was speaking the truth.
2:02:16
Now let's see what else they would like to tell us. Points,
2:02:20
bringing things up that teed up
2:02:22
Trump attacks. So there's a
2:02:25
real concern here tonight that there's
2:02:27
been some real damage done that
2:02:29
cannot be undone. Biden
2:02:31
solidified the perception among
2:02:34
voters, but especially among his
2:02:36
base, they
2:02:39
were hoping that tonight would be a game changer. They
2:02:41
are now seeing a president
2:02:45
who is in the White House, who they
2:02:47
do not necessarily believe can
2:02:49
can do this for another four years. David
2:02:51
Axelrod. Look, I
2:02:54
can't argue with either
2:02:56
of them about how a Democrat
2:02:59
leader is democratic leaders are reacting
2:03:01
to this poll. We
2:03:03
said at the beginning that each
2:03:05
person had a fundamental goal. And
2:03:07
for Biden, that goal was to
2:03:09
appear energetic, engaged, and look like
2:03:11
someone who is capable of serving
2:03:13
for another four years for president.
2:03:15
That was job number one. I
2:03:18
actually think he scored a bunch of points.
2:03:20
I think if you just judge this on
2:03:22
sort of policy stuff, he
2:03:25
did score a bunch of points on
2:03:27
issues like abortion, for example, on some
2:03:29
of the economic issues. But
2:03:34
there is a there is a feeling. OK,
2:03:36
this putz is trying to make something good
2:03:39
out of what we just saw. If
2:03:41
you notice during the speech that
2:03:43
he was giving, he was constantly
2:03:46
reiterating talking points. He repeated the
2:03:48
same things again and again. You
2:03:51
know, it was really bad. It was
2:03:54
horrific. Gosh, this guy is really pushing
2:03:56
it. They just came out breaking on
2:03:58
CNN. says,
2:04:00
we don't want you anymore. You know, sometimes
2:04:02
you have to show people so they know.
2:04:05
And this is why he said it was extremely
2:04:07
unnecessary. We should just let them pull the trigger
2:04:09
in another way. But hey, we
2:04:11
got it this way so that way they can have
2:04:13
an excuse. I said, well, you know, we felt
2:04:16
like he felt flat. We don't kind of
2:04:18
like it. So we're going to get rid
2:04:21
of Joe. Not like we were planning it
2:04:23
for years. And this is why when Joe
2:04:25
was in the way Gavin Newsom was at
2:04:27
the White House and he had Eleni Kulanakis
2:04:30
taking over in California. Let's remember that, right?
2:04:32
Because they're all pretending like we don't know
2:04:34
and we can't see. So let's listen to
2:04:37
this. Gosh, it must be embarrassing to be
2:04:39
his friend, this dude's friend and
2:04:41
family, because they're going to be like, oh my
2:04:43
gosh, he actually tried to save that. I
2:04:46
think there was a sense of shock, actually, how
2:04:48
he came out at the beginning of this debate,
2:04:51
how his voice sounded about,
2:04:53
you know, he seemed a little disoriented.
2:04:55
He did get stronger as the debate
2:04:57
went on. But by that time, I
2:05:00
think the panic had set in. And I
2:05:02
think you're going to hear discussions that
2:05:04
I don't know will lead
2:05:06
to anything. But, you know, there is
2:05:08
a good there are going to be
2:05:10
discussion about whether he should continue. And
2:05:12
I think part of it is Donald
2:05:14
Trump did not meet his mission either.
2:05:16
He could not resist
2:05:18
the attempt the
2:05:21
temptation to be nasty,
2:05:23
to prevaricate about a
2:05:25
whole bunch of things about
2:05:28
his own record about Biden's record. You
2:05:30
know what? No, he didn't. Because when they were talking
2:05:33
about drugs and saying, what are you going to do
2:05:35
about it? President Trump should have turned around and said,
2:05:37
you know what, we should ask Joe, because he's the
2:05:39
one that has cocaine in the White House. You know,
2:05:41
I would if I was on his team, I would
2:05:43
have written that shit in. I would have been like,
2:05:45
if they say anything about drugs, throw it in that
2:05:48
his White House has cocaine. Right.
2:05:50
Maybe throw in how we sacrificed our men
2:05:52
and women in Colombia. Joe, you know, that's
2:05:54
what I would have said. So he was
2:05:56
actually very nice. So let's give some credit
2:05:58
to President Trump. who's being nice. And
2:06:01
to seem petty and small at times.
2:06:04
So what you saw was a candidate
2:06:06
who's deeply vulnerable and a president
2:06:08
who may not be able to take advantage of it. Listen,
2:06:11
if anybody in America thinks that that was
2:06:13
even close to being an okay
2:06:16
debate by Joe Biden, I'm
2:06:19
living in a parallel universe. That
2:06:21
was an unmitigated disaster for President Biden
2:06:23
from the second he walked out to
2:06:25
the closing statement. The biggest issue
2:06:28
for Democrats is abortion and
2:06:30
he couldn't give an answer. He gave an answer,
2:06:32
a three, he couldn't even
2:06:34
give a coherent answer on the
2:06:36
biggest issue for Democrats tonight. I've
2:06:39
heard from. Kim, can we
2:06:41
just say how sad it is
2:06:43
that for Democrats, the right to
2:06:45
kill babies is their most important
2:06:47
issue. Not putting food on the
2:06:49
table, this is fact. Not
2:06:51
having clean water, fact. Not
2:06:54
having housing, fact. Not
2:06:56
having jobs, fact. Being
2:06:58
overtaxed, Joe, fact. It's
2:07:02
abortion. Just take that
2:07:04
in for a second. Leading
2:07:06
Democrats across the United States, elected
2:07:08
governors, congressmen, who are texting me
2:07:10
and saying, I'm worried I'm gonna lose if Joe
2:07:13
Biden's at the top of the ticket. Bob
2:07:15
Casey, I promise you tonight in the state of Pennsylvania
2:07:18
is throwing up in his mouth because he knows
2:07:20
that he's got to stand next to Joe Biden,
2:07:22
he's going down in Pennsylvania. If
2:07:25
he's on the ticket, I don't know how it's gonna work. Yeah,
2:07:28
look, it was a really disappointing debate performance from Joe
2:07:31
Biden. I don't think there's any other way to slice
2:07:33
it. His biggest issue that he had to prove to
2:07:35
the American people was that he had the energy and
2:07:37
the stamina, and he didn't do
2:07:39
that. And so I think that is of
2:07:41
concern. And I think for a lot of
2:07:43
Democrats, that's very disappointing. I'm sorry,
2:07:45
do you guys all not see that they
2:07:47
look like they're ready to cry again? Oh,
2:07:50
he's so, he's so disappointing. And
2:07:53
they're panicked, because they're like, what do we do now? Yeah,
2:07:56
we're gonna cite all those letters where we said
2:07:58
they plan this shit. They planned
2:08:00
this shit. They planned to replace
2:08:02
Biden. We wrote it down. We
2:08:05
sent it to our officials over
2:08:07
a month ago. They
2:08:09
can't move and wiggle. I'm telling
2:08:11
you, I'm telling you, the
2:08:13
minute that happens, my ass is going
2:08:16
full throttle. I've been
2:08:18
three times to the Supreme Court. I'm ready to
2:08:20
go again because we told
2:08:22
them they're going to
2:08:24
do this and you better not change
2:08:27
it. She's on the ballot on another
2:08:29
state that got her own shit. They're
2:08:32
not going to change it. We're not going to let
2:08:34
them do it because that's what they chose to put.
2:08:37
You sent them letters in every single state
2:08:39
and you told them this. It's
2:08:41
game over. It's fun. They
2:08:43
look panicked. Look at their face. They're ready
2:08:46
to cry. Point it. I will say Donald
2:08:48
Trump also had some really rough moments in
2:08:50
this debate. Talking to the Biden
2:08:52
campaign, they say their dials started
2:08:54
really moving away from Trump as he
2:08:56
was increasing his personal attacks on Biden.
2:08:58
I think there was a lot about
2:09:00
his character and the personal nastiness that
2:09:02
he was putting on display that doesn't
2:09:05
help him. There was no
2:09:07
personal nastiness. First
2:09:09
of all, Joe Biden took naked showers
2:09:11
with his daughter and I think she
2:09:13
alleged that he molested her. His
2:09:16
son, his crackhead son who needed
2:09:18
help was instead being postured so
2:09:20
they can frickin' launder money in
2:09:22
and out of Ukraine and let
2:09:24
the agency do their thing to
2:09:26
capture the whole front there. He
2:09:29
didn't say all the things he could have said. He
2:09:32
didn't. He didn't say, hey, Joe, we're
2:09:34
not supposed to have notes. Why the fuck do you
2:09:36
have a notebook in front of your face? I'm getting
2:09:38
so angry right now. I'm going to let her talk.
2:09:40
I'm going to let her talk. With
2:09:42
the swing voters that he needs. I also
2:09:44
think you saw him continue to get more
2:09:47
and more animated across the course of the debate
2:09:49
and give some really problematic answers
2:09:51
about January 6th. Some
2:09:53
really problematic answers about Putin.
2:09:56
Donald Trump did not get off scot-free tonight by
2:09:58
any stretch. There is no two
2:10:00
ways about it. That was not a good debate for Joe
2:10:03
Biden. Ben? That
2:10:06
was painful. I love Joe Biden.
2:10:08
I work for Joe Biden. He
2:10:10
didn't do well at all. He
2:10:13
did not do well at all. And
2:10:15
he looked, I'll
2:10:18
give you the analysis. I kind of have the old
2:10:20
man versus the con man. I
2:10:22
can walk you through how I'm supposed to see it and
2:10:25
say it, but I just want to speak from my heart.
2:10:28
I love that guy. That's a good man.
2:10:31
He loves his country. Oh,
2:10:34
wow. Did Van Jones, Mr. Nothingburger, say
2:10:36
that he loves that man? The
2:10:38
man who he knows, according
2:10:40
to his daughter, molested her, right?
2:10:43
In showers naked when she was young. That's
2:10:46
the good man. The good man is
2:10:48
the guy that said, China's not going
2:10:50
to eat our lunch. We
2:10:53
should let China grow because it's in our
2:10:55
benefit. Well,
2:10:57
yeah, you know what benefit it
2:10:59
is? Get this, guys. The UN
2:11:01
set a CCP head. Guess what
2:11:03
they did? They gave out free
2:11:05
Chinese drones to every freaking nation.
2:11:07
For agriculture, of course. And then
2:11:10
all those nations took all those
2:11:12
Chinese drones, right, for agriculture, of
2:11:14
course. And when does the Department
2:11:16
of Agriculture communicate with your intelligence
2:11:18
agency or Department of Defense? Probably
2:11:20
never, unless there's an issue. So
2:11:23
what happens? You get these drones
2:11:25
and you're like, yay, free drones.
2:11:27
But you need software to put
2:11:29
on your government agricultural system so
2:11:31
that way you can access the
2:11:33
Chinese software that's remotely accessed from
2:11:36
just CCP people. And then once they
2:11:38
have access to your government database through
2:11:40
your Department of Agriculture, they have access
2:11:43
to everything. And then they wonder why
2:11:45
they're hacked. But he's a great guy,
2:11:47
isn't he, Joe? Mr.
2:11:50
Nothingburger. He's
2:11:52
doing the best that he can. But
2:11:55
he had a testimony tonight to
2:11:57
restore confidence of the
2:11:59
country and of the bank. and he failed to do that.
2:12:02
And I think there's a lot of people who are
2:12:04
going to want to see him consider
2:12:08
taking a different course now. We're
2:12:10
still far from our convention. And
2:12:12
there is time for this party to figure out a different
2:12:14
way forward if he will allow us to do that. But
2:12:17
that was not what we needed from Joe
2:12:19
Biden. And it's personally painful for a lot
2:12:22
of people. It's not just panic, it's pain
2:12:24
of what we saw tonight. And if I may
2:12:26
just add to that, I think Joe
2:12:29
Biden lost in the first three minutes. I think
2:12:31
a lot of voters probably tuned out and millions
2:12:33
of people are having conversations with their families, with
2:12:35
their friends, of if the president is up to
2:12:37
the task and if he should step aside. And
2:12:40
I'm someone who believes the former president is a
2:12:42
threat to democracy. I think he is a threat
2:12:44
to the America as we know it. He wants
2:12:46
to fundamentally change our institutions. He has laid out
2:12:48
what his plan is. I am not confident that
2:12:51
that is the man to take him on. You
2:12:53
cannot tell me democracy is on the line and
2:12:55
then give that performance tonight. Based
2:12:57
on that in 18 weeks, Donald Trump
2:12:59
will be the president-elect. The
2:13:02
people doing focus groups tonight, and we'll see if
2:13:04
our dial group with Laura Coates confirms this, say
2:13:06
that Biden actually scores pretty well on the issues
2:13:08
when he's talking about the substance. And Trump's numbers
2:13:11
went down both because he was ducking questions, he
2:13:13
was lying about some things, and he was refusing
2:13:15
to answer. And some of it was the tone,
2:13:17
they don't like it. So when you see that,
2:13:20
when you see sort of the statistics, you're
2:13:23
gonna look at like, oh, that's a mixed
2:13:25
bag. But to Van's point about the president's
2:13:27
performance, that's what caused the panic. So the
2:13:30
question is, and my question actually is,
2:13:32
what happens? Because it's a great political
2:13:35
strength of Joe Biden, is his resilience
2:13:37
and his stubbornness. It's
2:13:39
also sometimes a blind spot because he is so stubborn.
2:13:41
It's gonna be very hard to someone, and I don't
2:13:43
know who it is, who could go to Joe Biden
2:13:46
and say, you need to do this, number
2:13:48
one. The question is, again, like, I'm
2:13:51
just telling you, to Abby's point, I've
2:13:53
been doing this for 30 something years, going on
2:13:55
40 years, and I have never, ever had what
2:13:58
happened on this thing tonight happen. in the middle
2:14:00
of the debate. It started early and it continued.
2:14:02
And to a vast point, Van made a very
2:14:04
important point. These are people who
2:14:06
love Joe Biden, who credit Joe
2:14:08
Biden for kicking Donald Trump out of the White House.
2:14:11
They're Democrats. The Democratic Party is a very diverse party.
2:14:13
It fights about a lot of things. It has generational
2:14:15
issues, it has regional issues, and everything else. The thing
2:14:17
that unites the Democratic Party is trying to keep Donald
2:14:19
Trump from getting back into the White House. They love
2:14:22
Joe Biden for kicking him out. They don't
2:14:24
want him back. They came into this debate
2:14:26
nervous that Biden was in a
2:14:29
weak position. They leave this debate panicked. John, if
2:14:31
you love the guy, how could you put him
2:14:33
out there? If you love him, if
2:14:35
you love Joe Biden, if that was my father, you
2:14:38
don't put a guy in that situation. Well, I would say that's
2:14:40
a great point. These guys know this better. These guys know this
2:14:42
better because they talked. Yeah,
2:14:44
but see, these guys also know that
2:14:46
Michelle Obama held a meeting in her house in
2:14:48
D.C., where they discussed the whole situation of how
2:14:51
it's going to go. So a couple of these
2:14:53
people already have a script, and they're going by
2:14:55
it, and how they're going to ease it in.
2:14:58
Like I said, not happenstance with
2:15:00
Newscom. There's
2:15:02
this legacy of the Democratic Party. You don't challenge
2:15:04
the incumbent because when it's happened in the past,
2:15:07
they haven't beaten the incumbent, and then
2:15:09
the incumbent has lost the general election.
2:15:11
Actually, Donald Trump helped make Joe Biden
2:15:13
the nominee because there was a feeling
2:15:15
that if there were a primary, that
2:15:18
Biden would probably win, but it would
2:15:20
weaken him in a general election, and
2:15:22
so there were people who could have
2:15:24
run and didn't run because the history
2:15:26
of that is bad. The point is
2:15:28
now he is the nominee of the
2:15:30
Democratic Party. This isn't the 60s, okay?
2:15:33
Voters choose the nominee. He is the nominee.
2:15:35
Only he can decide whether he's going to continue.
2:15:37
And as you point out, and as Kate
2:15:39
knows very well, this is a guy with
2:15:41
a lot of pride and who believes in himself
2:15:43
and the idea that he's going to say, you
2:15:46
know, I had a bad debate. I think
2:15:48
I'm going to walk away from this. I
2:15:50
find it hard to believe. It was also an
2:15:52
atypically bad performance, okay? And
2:15:58
it was also one night. So yes, was it important? night.
2:16:00
Yes, but it was one night in
2:16:02
the course of a campaign. So I
2:16:04
think let's see how voters react to
2:16:06
it. The problem with the one night
2:16:09
is that it's a one night
2:16:11
that helped confirm people's fears. It's
2:16:15
the one night that everybody was
2:16:17
watching. That was essentially, you know, Trump
2:16:19
said, you ought to take a test.
2:16:21
That was his test. And people are
2:16:24
going to feel that he came up wanting,
2:16:26
not on the substance. I think he actually
2:16:28
won on the substance. I don't think Trump
2:16:30
did well. I think what it
2:16:32
says to a lot of people, a lot of active
2:16:34
Democrats is, man, we can beat this guy, but I
2:16:37
don't know if we can beat him with the
2:16:39
press. Scott Scott, we heard from you. When we came
2:16:41
on before this debate, I
2:16:43
said, I thought this candidacy was teetering
2:16:47
and everybody jumped on me. Yes,
2:16:49
we did. Every single person out here. And
2:16:53
I just, I just, the
2:16:55
candidacy has fallen. Okay. Man,
2:16:59
I know you're speaking from your heart. I'm
2:17:01
worried about the president. We should
2:17:03
pray for the president. I think his
2:17:05
advisors, I think the White House
2:17:08
and I think his family have a
2:17:10
lot of explaining to do to
2:17:12
their party and to the American people
2:17:15
this night. This. Dang, that could have
2:17:17
been, that is the largest, biggest shade
2:17:19
I've ever seen right now. One night
2:17:23
was caused by and asked for by
2:17:25
the Biden team. They wanted this
2:17:28
night. And this is
2:17:30
what we got. We have been told for weeks,
2:17:33
weeks by Democrats who say, Oh, in
2:17:36
private meetings, I've seen Joe Biden do
2:17:38
cartwheels and handstands while doing trigonometry
2:17:41
while solving all the nation's problems.
2:17:44
We now know that every single person who said
2:17:46
that has been lying
2:17:48
to the American people, including Kevin McCarthy.
2:17:50
We've been told, Kate, I mean, just
2:17:52
saying everything we've
2:17:54
been told about his mental acuity by
2:17:57
these Democrats has been a lie and everything
2:18:00
we feel. think we knew has been confirmed.
2:18:02
I got a text from a friend. She's
2:18:04
not terribly political. She maxed out
2:18:06
to Biden in the last election because she
2:18:08
hates Donald Trump. She
2:18:10
said to me, I will never forgive
2:18:13
the Democratic Party for
2:18:15
this election. If the
2:18:17
Democrats truly believe that he is an
2:18:19
existential threat to democracy, and
2:18:22
that's not just some talking point, they
2:18:24
will wake up in the morning and they will
2:18:26
do something else because this is not sustainable. That's
2:18:29
another point about there are Democrats
2:18:31
who are panicking, and then there are a
2:18:33
lot of Republicans who did not
2:18:35
want to vote for Donald Trump, who do
2:18:37
not want to vote for Donald Trump, who
2:18:39
are also panicking tonight. I heard from one
2:18:42
who said, this is scary. That's
2:18:45
how it was described to me. I second that.
2:18:48
There were a lot of those feelings, not
2:18:52
just from the base of the party, but other
2:18:55
people who really think that there should be an
2:18:57
alternative to Trump who they think is dangerous. And
2:19:00
that's the other part of what is unfolding tonight
2:19:02
in terms of the panic that is out there.
2:19:04
You already have coming into this
2:19:06
debate support
2:19:08
for third party candidates, Robert F.
2:19:11
Kennedy Jr. highest, and then
2:19:13
Jill Stein and Cornel West, no where. Okay, so
2:19:15
let me just say something. I've
2:19:17
told you in the last elections
2:19:19
that after that evening, CNN will
2:19:22
be speaking true. I
2:19:24
have told you that they always tell you
2:19:26
what they're about to do. And there's
2:19:29
a lot of people right now that
2:19:31
are giving their boom commentary and here's
2:19:33
what we're gonna plan and we're gonna
2:19:35
militia this bullshit, right? Or ha ha
2:19:37
ha, that was funny. And ha ha,
2:19:39
did you see his face? Well, let's
2:19:41
speak serious shit right now, right? These
2:19:43
motherfuckers are plotting, okay? It's evening, we're
2:19:45
all having our wine. We're enjoying this
2:19:48
thing. This geriatric abuse, we saw it.
2:19:50
It was necessary because that's the only
2:19:52
way they could usher them out. So
2:19:54
let's listen to what they say and
2:19:56
digest and mark on that, right? Obviously,
2:20:00
Obviously they can't sing praises to Trump because
2:20:02
they need to segue for their new candidate.
2:20:05
And I told you this years ago that
2:20:07
Gavin Newsom is coming in. Years
2:20:10
ago. And this was
2:20:12
the cherry on top. I told you
2:20:14
they're paying the protesters because they don't
2:20:16
want Joe Biden. And
2:20:19
you know what? If they're lucky and they have the
2:20:21
money and they can get away with it, you know what their
2:20:23
next strategy is? Guess what? All
2:20:25
of these protesters will be like, all right, we're
2:20:27
good with Newsom. No
2:20:29
more riots. Watch. Because
2:20:32
they're smart. You know? And
2:20:34
the thing is Republicans think they're fucking
2:20:37
smart. Conservatives think
2:20:39
they're fucking smart. Well, actually from this
2:20:41
bitch, one of the smartest people, allegedly,
2:20:44
right? Oh
2:20:47
my God, I sound like Trump. I just said that. I
2:20:49
am though. And I'm not going to hide it.
2:20:52
They're dumb. They don't see it coming.
2:20:55
Okay. They don't see it coming.
2:20:57
They just told you. They don't have time till
2:20:59
the DNC to figure it out. So now listen
2:21:01
to what they're saying. They're giving all the options
2:21:03
on the table. See, smart
2:21:06
people listen to when the
2:21:08
enemy speaks, even when it agitates the shit
2:21:10
out of them. Right?
2:21:12
Dumb people just kind of comment,
2:21:15
you know, after something and not listen
2:21:17
to their plotting after because
2:21:19
there's tons of channels right now
2:21:21
listening to themselves talk rather than
2:21:24
listen to them tell you what they
2:21:26
have planned. For
2:21:29
nearest close. But if you add it all up, you
2:21:31
get into the teens in most States. When you do
2:21:33
that, I think one byproduct out of this is watch
2:21:35
and see if those numbers go up a little bit.
2:21:37
I'm not saying they're going to go anywhere like a
2:21:39
perot standard, but you get to, you get to third
2:21:41
party candidates getting into double digits. Then
2:21:43
that's really starts to twist your electoral math
2:21:45
state, depending on who they're drawing from state
2:21:48
by state. This was already very complicated race.
2:21:50
This is within number one. The biggest complication
2:21:52
right now is conversation with the Democratic Party.
2:21:54
But the other complication is going to be
2:21:56
if Joe Biden stays put and Kate's right,
2:21:58
maybe there'll be another debate. I'm not sure Donald
2:22:00
Trump's gonna agree to a second debate. Biden's gonna
2:22:02
need it now. I'm not sure Trump's gonna agree to it if
2:22:04
the dynamics of the race change. Bill never gonna do it. And
2:22:07
I would also watch the third party. I
2:22:09
just wanna say one thing. Yeah. Especially
2:22:11
the you two guys. If
2:22:14
for whatever reason, there's a
2:22:16
change at the top of the ticket, you
2:22:20
guys are in trouble with Donald Trump because the
2:22:22
guy who was up there tonight is
2:22:25
not a guy who's going to inspire
2:22:28
people, he did
2:22:30
not show in any way that he
2:22:32
has changed from the guy who people
2:22:34
have a very positive opinion of for
2:22:36
a lot of good reason. I think
2:22:38
Donald Trump won several policy exchanges tonight.
2:22:40
I think he did well on immigration.
2:22:42
I think he did well on the
2:22:44
economy. I think he did well on
2:22:47
inflation. I think he went back to Afghanistan as
2:22:49
he should have. The thing he did not
2:22:51
do was after he realized that
2:22:53
he had Biden beaten on
2:22:55
policy and on image, he
2:22:58
should have turned the page and sounded
2:23:00
an optimistic note about what we can become as
2:23:02
a people and as a country. He did not
2:23:04
do that. He continued to pummel Joe Biden all
2:23:06
night. I understand what you're saying, but
2:23:09
at the end of the night, very
2:23:11
few things about the policy exchanges is
2:23:13
gonna be remembered. People are gonna remember
2:23:15
Joe Biden. But that. They're
2:23:18
gonna remember him shuffling out. They're gonna remember
2:23:20
him staring blankly into the camera. They're
2:23:22
gonna remember him looking down, losing his train
2:23:24
of thought. And they're gonna remember that everything
2:23:26
I thought I knew, but the White House
2:23:28
told me, don't believe my own eyes is
2:23:31
actually true. But that's not what I'm saying.
2:23:33
What I said, Scott, was if
2:23:35
Joe Biden were not the candidate, if there
2:23:37
was another candidate, I think Donald Trump would
2:23:39
be in deep. Yeah, but actually, he had
2:23:41
it. If I
2:23:43
made that, that is such a sad state
2:23:45
of affairs. Something I was consistently hearing is,
2:23:47
what a bad debate in the sense that
2:23:49
Donald Trump lied throughout. He misrepresented. He tried
2:23:52
to turn away from key points that he
2:23:54
should have given answers on and kept and
2:23:56
kept deflecting. With any normal generic Democrat next
2:23:58
to him. I don't think you would have
2:24:00
won the night but you put somebody who
2:24:02
was Suffering from the moment that they got
2:24:04
out if it was hard to watch I
2:24:06
had to occasionally look away because it was
2:24:08
so uncomfortable I think America deserves
2:24:10
better than the options that are in front of them.
2:24:12
It's really devastating And by the way, our allies are
2:24:14
watching. Yeah, look, I mean the way that I would
2:24:16
try to phrase it if I were less emotional That
2:24:24
chick gotta look away Because
2:24:26
it was just so hard just a heartening
2:24:29
and by the way, our allies are watching
2:24:31
You mean our enemies are watching right the
2:24:33
fact that we're the weakest damn nation right
2:24:35
now You know who's stronger than us right
2:24:37
now at the Congo. You know, who else
2:24:39
is stronger than us Zaire? You
2:24:42
know who else Venezuela Cuba Russia
2:24:44
China? And we just put a
2:24:46
relic a crypt keeper that can't
2:24:48
tie his shoe for four years
2:24:50
on Stage to pretend to
2:24:52
be president and you couldn't hide
2:24:54
it and you did it on purpose So
2:24:57
you can usher in Gavin quickly and say
2:24:59
oh, you know guys, it'd just be nice
2:25:01
He had a stroke like we said he
2:25:03
had a stroke and he didn't want to
2:25:05
tell anyone because it's not a big deal
2:25:07
And he was recovering. So forgive
2:25:09
us but he'll pass
2:25:12
now, you know, you can put
2:25:14
someone else like Nancy Pelosi's nephew
2:25:16
Gavin Newsom who's Created California into
2:25:19
a big-ass shithole, but let's
2:25:21
just hear them cry some more but he told the truth
2:25:24
You look terrible those policies were good Trump
2:25:27
spoke plainly, but he lied the whole time
2:25:30
and he looked good. But his policies were
2:25:32
terrible I mean, he's gonna do nothing on
2:25:34
climate change. He was hugging the cactus on
2:25:36
abortion I mean his policies are terrible So
2:25:38
you have somebody who probably shouldn't be president
2:25:40
and you have somebody who cannot be president
2:25:43
in terms of what Donald Trump represents So
2:25:45
so we have a problem as a country
2:25:47
now and this might be an opportunity for
2:25:49
people to come together and figure this Out
2:25:51
because neither one of those people right now
2:25:53
are inspiring the confidence That
2:25:55
they should inspire that they can do the job
2:25:57
in a way that would be good for the
2:25:59
country But young voters are up for grabs in
2:26:02
this election. And I don't know a voter under
2:26:04
30 who would have watched tonight and could say,
2:26:06
I have confidence in Joe Biden and casting my
2:26:08
vote for four more years of Biden. And
2:26:10
this opens the door, by the way, for
2:26:12
the conversation about if Joe
2:26:15
Biden remains the candidate, you're
2:26:17
not voting for Joe Biden. You are
2:26:19
voting for president Kamala Harris. Let's be honest. That
2:26:21
is where the Trump campaign is going to go
2:26:23
with this. They started down this road with an
2:26:25
ad they released today. But this
2:26:27
conversation about who you're actually casting your
2:26:29
vote for, the volume is going
2:26:32
to ratchet up. And I got news for you. She's
2:26:34
less popular than he is. That is
2:26:36
going to be a big problem for the Democrats if
2:26:38
this ticket stays the way it is. Yeah. And the
2:26:40
Scott's Democratic friend who maxed out, right?
2:26:43
That's the sentiment you're going to hear, I think,
2:26:45
from some of my Democratic friends who are texting
2:26:47
me saying, I can't believe this is where we...
2:26:49
Can I say something that probably no one's going
2:26:51
to talk about tonight? Cause they're going to be
2:26:53
like, this is such a win. It's not a
2:26:56
win if you're running a race against someone with
2:26:58
no legs. Okay. Now I
2:27:00
want you to listen carefully. If
2:27:03
you know the gag order on
2:27:05
president Trump, right? The words
2:27:07
of the judge were like, let's see
2:27:09
how he behaves tonight to see how
2:27:11
much of an extent pay attention to
2:27:13
what I just said, because it could
2:27:15
have just come out and said they're
2:27:18
planning to replace him. Now it was
2:27:20
very easy for them to put an
2:27:22
ad out because there's, you know, a
2:27:24
couple of people on social media that
2:27:26
have been saying it a lot. So
2:27:28
he didn't say anything. So hence
2:27:30
the gag order better be lifted.
2:27:34
We are right. Yeah. I can't, I don't forget. I
2:27:36
can't, I'm not going to be able to forgive the
2:27:38
party for putting it in this position. Look,
2:27:40
I don't know lies about, on Donald Trump's lies.
2:27:42
I mean, I, I spent a lot of time
2:27:44
thinking about this throughout the debate because, you
2:27:47
know, we, be in the media. I sit
2:27:49
in the chair and I fact check Trump
2:27:51
all the time. So I
2:27:53
know these lies by heart at this point,
2:27:55
but people watching from home do not. And
2:27:58
the Biden's. job as the other person
2:28:00
on the other side of the stage
2:28:03
is to be the one to very
2:28:05
quickly dispense with the
2:28:07
lies and to shut them down. And
2:28:09
I don't think that happened enough times
2:28:13
in a coherent way to blunt the
2:28:15
fact that Trump was taking a universe
2:28:18
that was built on a house of lies
2:28:20
and building a whole world for millions
2:28:24
of people watching. Particularly on some of
2:28:26
the most basic subject matters that
2:28:28
President Biden should have been able
2:28:30
to just... That world that he was able to
2:28:32
build, it was not
2:28:34
knocked down by the president. That
2:28:37
is really at the heart of the problem.
2:28:39
He may have won when he was making
2:28:41
his discrete policy points,
2:28:43
but part of the job on the debate stage
2:28:46
is dealing with an
2:28:48
opponent like Donald Trump who
2:28:50
goes like a mile a minute on
2:28:52
things that are not true. And if
2:28:54
you don't deal with that, no one at home is doing
2:28:56
that. All I want
2:28:58
to say is I'm not sure. I don't think you're
2:29:01
giving viewers enough credit. I think what they saw was
2:29:03
the Trump that they didn't like. And
2:29:05
I don't think he did himself a great service. I
2:29:09
also think we should let voters absorb
2:29:11
this and see what they say, right?
2:29:13
Let's look at the dials. Let's look at where
2:29:15
they are next week. We can make
2:29:17
our pronouncements, but ultimately voters have to absorb
2:29:19
it. They're going to turn your mics off,
2:29:21
guys. And the one thing that Biden
2:29:24
did fact check him on, on the Charlottesville thing,
2:29:26
he was completely wrong. So
2:29:28
he's up there talking about Charlottesville and Trump not denouncing
2:29:30
the two sides. And Snopes
2:29:32
was out last week, seven months, seven
2:29:35
years too late kind of thing on the deal. And
2:29:37
that's the thing Joe Biden is going to fact check him on, something that was
2:29:40
proven false. We're going to
2:29:42
more with the panel out here, a
2:29:44
lot of notable moments, painful moments from
2:29:47
tonight. But as we've been talking about,
2:29:49
perhaps a single defining one as well,
2:29:51
this one early on. a
2:30:00
small group in our
2:30:02
nation's capital has reaped
2:30:04
the rewards of government
2:30:07
while the people
2:30:30
had the cost. Washington
2:30:34
flourished, but the
2:30:36
people did not share in
2:30:39
its wealth. Politicians
2:30:41
prospered, but the jobs
2:30:43
left and the
2:30:45
factories closed. The
2:30:49
establishment protected itself, but
2:30:52
not the citizens of our country. What
2:30:55
truly matters is
2:30:57
not which party controls our
2:30:59
government, but whether our government
2:31:01
is controlled by the people.
2:31:04
From this day forward, it's
2:31:06
going to be only America
2:31:09
first. You
2:31:12
are going to be so proud of
2:31:14
your country because we're going to turn
2:31:16
it around and we're going to start
2:31:18
winning again. We're going to win so
2:31:20
much. We're going to win at every
2:31:23
level. We're going to win so much.
2:31:25
You may even get tired of winning
2:31:27
and you'll say, please, please, it's too
2:31:29
much winning. We can't take it anymore.
2:31:31
Mr. President, it's too much. And I'll
2:31:34
say, no, it isn't. We have to
2:31:36
keep winning. We have to win more.
2:31:38
We're going to win more. I'm going
2:31:40
to bomb the shit out of them.
2:31:43
It's true. I don't care. 20,
2:31:55
24 is the final battle to save our
2:31:58
country from destruction. We
2:32:00
will make America wealthy
2:32:02
again. We
2:32:06
will make America strong
2:32:08
again. We will make
2:32:11
America proud again.
2:32:15
We will make America
2:32:17
safe again. And
2:32:20
we will make America
2:32:22
great again. Thank
2:32:26
you. Okay,
2:32:30
so CNN just
2:32:32
terminated their discussions out of
2:32:35
the blue. So we're
2:32:37
going to take a short intermission. And
2:32:39
while you listen to this mashup
2:32:42
that I have especially for you, I'd
2:32:45
like you to think of all the
2:32:47
children that went missing under the Biden
2:32:49
administration coming through the border. I want
2:32:51
you to make note that the Guatemalan
2:32:53
Attorney General demanded answers why their kids
2:32:56
are being kidnapped. I want you to
2:32:58
take note of all the children the
2:33:00
minute they're out of diapers their kindergarten
2:33:02
teacher can choose their sex. I
2:33:05
want you to imagine all those
2:33:07
children that are being indoctrinated by
2:33:10
these insane people.
2:33:57
I want you to imagine all those children that are being indoctrinated by
2:33:59
these insane people. Alright,
2:34:35
no.
2:34:41
Huh. Now,
2:34:51
we don't have a CNN feed
2:34:53
comparing, but we do
2:34:55
have an MSDNC, and
2:34:57
this is gonna be fun. So,
2:34:59
please enjoy because now they're starting to
2:35:01
warm up to the idea of removing
2:35:03
Joe Biden, which was their plan in
2:35:05
the first place. And I already saw
2:35:07
a bunch of you tweeting, hey, we
2:35:09
sent you letters a long time ago
2:35:12
telling you that was the plan. You
2:35:14
can't take him off the ballot. You gotta
2:35:16
keep Joe Biden. And no matter
2:35:18
what they do, they can't change it. We need
2:35:20
to fight them in the courts. This
2:35:23
is how you win. You're patient, and
2:35:25
when you know what they're gonna do, you don't just
2:35:27
bitch about it. Do something.
2:35:29
And every single one of you did. So
2:35:31
get your tootsies ready because
2:35:34
this is gonna be fun. Now, let's
2:35:36
take a hear of what they want
2:35:38
to tell us is going on. So
2:35:41
this is gonna be interesting. The
2:35:43
fact that that is even a shadow now
2:35:46
hanging over the debate performance for President Biden
2:35:48
is at minimum a headache for the Biden
2:35:50
campaign moving into the next stretch of this
2:35:52
campaign out of the Republican convention in the
2:35:55
next couple weeks and at worst potentially something
2:35:57
that will dog them now for months. what
2:36:00
we have seen from voters in polling consistently,
2:36:02
which is, yes, concern about President Biden's age.
2:36:04
Now, all of that said, I'm in the
2:36:06
spin room, and they call it the spin
2:36:08
room, a reason for a reason, Savannah. It
2:36:10
is because you have surrogates here for both
2:36:12
campaigns, and of course the Biden campaign out
2:36:14
here, trying to make the case that their
2:36:16
candidates did well. And I will tell you
2:36:18
what some of the early spin is now
2:36:20
from team Biden, suggesting that President Trump's answer,
2:36:22
for example, on January 6th was not a
2:36:24
good one, that people are turned off by
2:36:27
his insults, by his attacks on President Biden
2:36:29
here. But remember the sort of social economy
2:36:31
that we're in right now, Savannah and Lester,
2:36:33
this idea that these sort of clippable, shareable
2:36:35
moments are what people tend to see if
2:36:37
they're not watching tonight, then perhaps the next
2:36:39
day or the day after. And
2:36:41
there are some moments here that the Biden
2:36:44
campaign is gonna find tough to swallow based
2:36:46
on the President's performance tonight. Yeah, well, speaking
2:36:48
of the spin room and surrogates, we wanna
2:36:50
do that right now, go to Biden campaign
2:36:53
national co-chair, former Mayor Mitch Landrieu. And
2:36:55
Mr. Mayor, let me let you put a fine point
2:36:57
on it. Was this the commanding
2:36:59
performance from your candidate you hope to see?
2:37:02
Well, I thought it was a really bare knuckles brawl.
2:37:04
I think they're right, the President started off slow, but
2:37:06
then he came back. But the most compelling thing about
2:37:09
tonight that you write about more than you write about
2:37:11
anything else is that when Donald Trump
2:37:13
was speaking, he was lying. And the fact
2:37:15
that there was no fact checking is incredible.
2:37:17
It's really hard to debate somebody who was
2:37:19
untethered from the truth. He doubled down on
2:37:21
the fact that January 6th really wasn't a
2:37:23
big deal. He doubled down on the fact
2:37:25
that he thought those folks were patriots. He
2:37:27
doubled down on the fact that he was
2:37:29
an election denier. He doubled down on the
2:37:31
fact that he thought reversing Roe versus Wade
2:37:33
was a great idea. He doubled down on
2:37:35
the fact that the economy was the
2:37:37
best in the world when in fact it was
2:37:40
not. And so these debates have a way of
2:37:42
coursing over time. But before tomorrow morning, when you
2:37:44
fact check what was said, you are gonna find
2:37:46
out that almost everything that Donald Trump said tonight
2:37:48
was a fabricated line. The fact that they've been
2:37:51
fact checking at time is difficult. Mr. Mayor, will
2:37:53
that be the conversation or will the conversation be
2:37:55
about the physical performance? I
2:37:57
think because of the way people analyze
2:37:59
debates. I'm sorry. Let's free phrase that
2:38:01
question. Tomorrow, the news.
2:38:04
Who's owning them? Will they
2:38:07
actually write what you're saying, sir?
2:38:11
Have you paid them or
2:38:13
has the next candidate insured?
2:38:16
They're slotting in at the DNC because they're
2:38:18
not going to be talking about it. I,
2:38:20
I, you know, as a linguist, I can't
2:38:22
help it. I needed to translate. He was
2:38:24
saying, are you sure the media is not
2:38:27
going to be running with the fact that
2:38:29
they need to get rid of him? Do
2:38:31
you think they're going to hit, you know, Trump who
2:38:34
owns the media boy? Cause we're not hearing
2:38:36
that. We're getting different notes. He's telling it.
2:38:39
Listen. It's going
2:38:41
to be at first about the physical performance, but
2:38:43
when you get into the substance of what was
2:38:46
said, I think the takeaway from this was that
2:38:48
Joe Biden was right on the substance. He told
2:38:50
the truth. He has a better record. America is
2:38:52
stronger. People respect us more. The economy is better.
2:38:55
And Donald Trump, malicious literally to every question that,
2:38:57
that was asked of him. He did not tell
2:38:59
the truth. It was like he was living in
2:39:01
another universe, but if you can't fact some checks
2:39:04
on body and somebody isn't ashamed of not telling
2:39:06
the truth, it is a very difficult situation. And
2:39:08
I thought you saw that in real time tonight,
2:39:10
but what you also did say was president,
2:39:12
when we finished with president Biden, actually
2:39:15
fighting for the people that really, uh,
2:39:17
he believes that Donald Trump becoming obsessed
2:39:19
again with himself and almost being unhinged
2:39:21
in some moments. Mr. Mary, you
2:39:24
talk about fact checks. One of the
2:39:26
key issues in this campaign and the
2:39:28
polls show it over and over again,
2:39:30
a core issue for voters is whether
2:39:32
or not president Biden has the competence
2:39:35
and ability to complete a second term.
2:39:37
So the fact check is before their
2:39:39
eyes. They're able to assess it. Was
2:39:41
the president Biden that you saw tonight,
2:39:44
the individual you know, so if people
2:39:46
assess based on what they saw tonight,
2:39:48
that this is the president who will
2:39:50
serve another four years, are you comfortable
2:39:53
with that assessment based on what you saw tonight?
2:39:56
I am. Translation. Listen
2:39:59
carefully. to what you're saying. I know what
2:40:01
you're saying about the fact checking. And
2:40:03
here's a parentheses. There was a deal that
2:40:05
he would shut up about Biden being sick
2:40:08
and not saying anything if you would do
2:40:10
that. And he's like, all right, then no
2:40:12
fact check live or anything like that. Maybe
2:40:14
that was the deal. Who knows? But what
2:40:17
she's telling him is we're not getting those
2:40:19
notes, sir. And we are following this. Tell
2:40:21
us why we should not follow those notes,
2:40:23
sir, because we're giving these notes. Served
2:40:26
with president Biden for two years. I was with
2:40:29
him on a regular basis and I've seen
2:40:31
him recently. I think that he's fine. I think he
2:40:33
had a cold tonight. I think he looked a little
2:40:35
sluggish when he came out, but as the night went
2:40:37
on, I think he really kind of rose to occasion.
2:40:39
It's going to be a very, very difficult night. It
2:40:41
was a bare knuckles brawl, but I'm proud of the
2:40:43
fact that he stood up to Donald Trump and the
2:40:45
mistruths that he told. And he tried to lay his
2:40:47
plan out for the American people. All right,
2:40:49
Mitch Landrieu, Biden campaign co-chair. Thank you so much. We want
2:40:51
to turn now to our senior. Thank you for having me.
2:40:53
Yeah, of course. Our senior national correspondent,
2:40:55
Tom Yamas, is on the floor of the spin room,
2:40:58
Tom, what are you hearing? Hey,
2:41:01
Savannah, good to be with you tonight. So listen,
2:41:03
campaign elections, they are all about strategies. The Biden
2:41:05
campaign strategy in the spin room is a little
2:41:07
odd right now. All these people are waiting for
2:41:09
any democratic strategist to come out. Anyone from the
2:41:11
Biden campaign, anybody who supports Joe Biden to come
2:41:14
out here and defend his performance right now, you
2:41:16
can see there are not a lot of people
2:41:18
here. To be fair, they have chosen a different
2:41:20
space from what we understand. They're going to have
2:41:22
surrogates there as well. If I turn the camera
2:41:24
around the spin room, all these people here, these
2:41:27
people are talking to Trump supporters. These are surrogates
2:41:29
that are out here, right? People like... Wait a
2:41:32
minute. Did he just say that there's nobody there
2:41:34
to defend Biden? He clearly just
2:41:36
said that. That this whole room, there's
2:41:38
one person, I think they're in another
2:41:40
room, right? No one's here to defend
2:41:42
him. But here are all the Trump
2:41:45
people, because, oh my
2:41:47
God. The vague Rama Swamy,
2:41:49
people like Representative Stefano. We saw Senator Rubio
2:41:51
enter the room as well. I said to
2:41:53
you the point I'm trying to make is
2:41:55
that the Trump team is out here on
2:41:57
the offense. They're here saying basically that the
2:41:59
president... Biden had a very bad debate that
2:42:01
that President Trump obviously the candidate they're supporting
2:42:04
had a much better debate and that the
2:42:06
decision now is clear right that if the
2:42:08
American viewers saw the performance
2:42:10
from President Biden the choice is clear again
2:42:12
I'm sure in the moments to come President
2:42:14
Biden will be out uh somebody from his
2:42:17
team will come out here and defend uh
2:42:19
the President's performance but right now again listen
2:42:21
all these reporters and there's dozens of them
2:42:23
are waiting for anyone to come out right
2:42:26
now from the just hold on they're gonna
2:42:28
come and tell us you know I know
2:42:31
it's summer you and the fam probably
2:42:33
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2:42:35
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2:43:02
good on this and we're confident on this we're
2:43:04
just waiting any minute now fighting campaign and listen
2:43:06
this is the spin room so even though they
2:43:08
have a different room that they wanted to put
2:43:11
their people in as far as strategy goes as
2:43:13
far as where the reporters are this is where
2:43:15
everyone is right now and again all these piles
2:43:17
of people you see here all these reporters these
2:43:19
cameras they're surrounding Trump's brigades you can see the
2:43:21
sign up there right senator Tim Scott let's walk
2:43:23
over the form of Swami's over here uh senator
2:43:25
Marco Rubio's over here let's go see if we
2:43:27
oh my god this guy probably hates his job
2:43:29
he's gonna have like 20 million drinks get senator
2:43:32
Rubio real quick to see what he says we're
2:43:34
gonna send it back to you guys in the
2:43:36
studio as we give you a live shot of
2:43:38
senator Rubio and we'll stay out here in the
2:43:40
spin room floor all right very good Tom thank
2:43:42
you joining us now from the debate spin room
2:43:44
is North Dakota governor Doug Bergum governor good evening
2:43:46
thank you for being with us Lester
2:43:50
great to be with you we we heard
2:43:52
from the uh sir oh for those of
2:43:54
you that aren't aware of who this guy
2:43:56
is he's the governor of North Dakota he's
2:43:58
uh partners with Bill Gates Uh-huh. And
2:44:01
he is owned by the Chinese according to
2:44:04
all the documents and even has a loan
2:44:08
from the Chinese investors where he purchased half
2:44:10
a Fargo. Oh, and on top of that,
2:44:12
remember the contact tracing app where they wanted
2:44:14
to trace people around you without your permission,
2:44:16
but download it just to be safe. He
2:44:19
invented that. He also created the QR code
2:44:21
so he could take your DNA because it
2:44:23
wasn't really a test and put
2:44:25
it on the record for you. And then they
2:44:28
sold all that to China. I just wanted to
2:44:30
introduce you to this guy just in case you guys
2:44:32
don't know who he is. Forget
2:44:34
for the Biden campaign that President
2:44:36
Trump in their view flooded
2:44:39
the zone with untruths, haptruths,
2:44:41
what's your reaction to that?
2:44:45
Well, I think my reaction is that President Trump
2:44:48
had a very strong performance that I think America
2:44:50
saw. They
2:44:53
saw the challenges that Joe Biden had just
2:44:55
delivering a message and he didn't have an
2:44:57
answer on inflation. He didn't have an answer
2:44:59
on the border. And I think that's what
2:45:02
Americans, the Americans I talk to Republicans, independents,
2:45:04
Democrats, those are the two things that are
2:45:06
affecting them. Most of the border isn't about
2:45:09
immigration. It's about national security and public safety.
2:45:12
And we didn't hear, we didn't hear answers to that. And I
2:45:14
think it me as a business guy, listening to it, I
2:45:16
would say, uh, it's clear that, you
2:45:18
know, Joe Biden's got a 50 year
2:45:21
long philosophy, which is essentially anti business.
2:45:24
Right now, of course, America comes
2:45:26
to bear in regulation. He wants
2:45:28
to raise taxes. And every solution
2:45:31
is higher taxes and, and
2:45:33
more spending. And so I think that, you know, people
2:45:35
didn't see anything new. There was no vision there.
2:45:38
And people know that they were better off under
2:45:40
President Trump. And so I think tonight, big win
2:45:42
for President Trump. And Governor, on style points, the
2:45:44
fact that there was no audience, do
2:45:47
you think that in the end helped the former president?
2:45:52
Well, I think that President Trump showed
2:45:54
what he shows a lot of people,
2:45:57
which is whether he's in small groups or whether
2:45:59
he's at fundraisers. I mean, he's,
2:46:01
he's, he's right now, he's in a great
2:46:03
spot. He's calm, he's strong. He's
2:46:05
confident. I mean, this is not the guy that was running in 2016.
2:46:07
He knows what
2:46:10
it's like to be president. He's done it
2:46:12
before. He's surrounded himself by great campaign team.
2:46:15
And I think he's very confident about, about how
2:46:17
he's going forward. I think that showed in his
2:46:19
performance tonight. Governor, can I ask you something? A
2:46:21
lot of folks are just tuning in really paying
2:46:23
attention. They're not political junkies like you or I
2:46:25
may be, and they're just tuning in right now.
2:46:28
And one of the last things they remember, of
2:46:30
course, is January 6th, the president losing the election,
2:46:32
but claiming he didn't, people rioting at the Capitol.
2:46:34
Here it was again tonight as point blank. If
2:46:37
you, if, Oh my God, I love her.
2:46:39
I want to hear what he has to
2:46:41
say. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh,
2:46:43
and by the way, he can't talk shit about
2:46:45
borders because most of the deadly criminals are
2:46:47
coming from the Northern one and he manages
2:46:49
the majority of it. And guess what? No
2:46:51
security, but this is perfect. Let's
2:46:53
hear what he has to say. If
2:46:56
you lose the election, will you concede? And he
2:46:58
just doesn't answer the question directly. He's always hedging
2:47:00
it with the, if it's free and fair. And
2:47:03
of course the implication is it's not free
2:47:05
and fair if he's not the winner. Why don't
2:47:07
you just come right out and say, of course
2:47:09
I'll accept the results of this election. Well,
2:47:13
I think you heard him say that at the end, it
2:47:15
would be easier for him if we had, everybody
2:47:18
thought we had secure elections, but we know in
2:47:20
our country, being a democracy, this is a challenge.
2:47:23
That's just a red herring. He got to
2:47:25
litigate it. He had the advantages of our
2:47:28
democracy and our courts and every
2:47:30
other institution, which found that it was a
2:47:32
free and fair election. And yet he's still
2:47:34
on about that. And he won't
2:47:36
say that he'll accept the results of this
2:47:38
election. I just don't get that. Well,
2:47:42
I think for, for any of us that were
2:47:44
around, and I was also part of that 2020
2:47:46
election, we had a free
2:47:48
and fair election in North Dakota. We've got
2:47:50
election security there, but we had so many
2:47:53
rule changes in 2020 with COVID. We had
2:47:55
record number of mail out mail in ballots,
2:47:57
but mailing out flooding the zone with all
2:47:59
these. ballots to non updated
2:48:02
voter files, unmonitored
2:48:04
drop boxes. I mean, you can verify that
2:48:06
this is the number of ballots that got
2:48:08
counted, but I'm a guy that spent my
2:48:10
life in tech and in
2:48:12
business processes. And when you've got unmonitored
2:48:15
documents that don't have any
2:48:18
controlled over the path of that document, you don't
2:48:20
know where it came from, you don't know where
2:48:22
it's been, that would never
2:48:24
pass any kind of audit from a quarterly
2:48:26
audit from a public company. So I think
2:48:28
we all want the same thing. And if
2:48:30
America, whether it's the 2000 election, which
2:48:33
was challenged down in one
2:48:35
county in Florida, the 16 election, which people
2:48:37
claimed, there's Russian interference, the 2020
2:48:39
election. I mean, three of
2:48:41
our last five elections, either of the different parties have
2:48:43
been saying there was concern. We
2:48:45
can't let you get out of here without asking
2:48:47
a question about the VP selection process. What are
2:48:50
you hearing? Obviously your name is one of the
2:48:52
top three. Well, have you been
2:48:54
asked to be VP? Because the former
2:48:56
president says his VP was there. You're
2:48:58
there, Marco Rubio's there, JD Vance is
2:49:00
there. Have you been asked to be VP? There's
2:49:04
so much talent in the Republican party here
2:49:07
tonight. I think the real question has got
2:49:09
to be on the Democrat side. I'm
2:49:11
sure that's the question right now is the
2:49:14
choice that Joe Biden made four years ago. Do
2:49:17
you expect, what are they doing going forward? Do
2:49:19
you expect to know who his vice presidential pick
2:49:21
is this week? Keeping in mind, it's
2:49:23
Thursday night. That's,
2:49:25
and tonight is about President Trump's big victory
2:49:27
and he'll make that decision. Have you been
2:49:29
asked? He'll make a good one. He'll make
2:49:31
the time of his choosing. Have you been
2:49:33
asked? There's
2:49:36
only one person to know who's the next
2:49:38
VP is and that is
2:49:40
President Trump. I'm new here to that question. We go,
2:49:42
Governor. I think that's a no,
2:49:44
he hasn't been asked. All right, Governor, thank you.
2:49:46
NBC's Gotti Schwartz has been watching the debate with
2:49:49
voters known as double haters in
2:49:51
Phoenix. Those are voters who don't like either
2:49:53
candidate. Gotti, what are you hearing? Hey,
2:49:57
Lester, yeah, we started off the night talking about double haters.
2:50:00
How does that debate went on? Double
2:50:02
hate, it's probably not the word that this
2:50:05
panel would use to describe their feelings on
2:50:07
one or possibly both candidates. I mean, we
2:50:09
were just talking about it. How
2:50:12
would you describe this? Double what? Double
2:50:14
frustrated. Double frustrated. How about you?
2:50:17
Double cringe. Double cringe. And I
2:50:19
was watching you as you were watching this
2:50:21
debate, I saw a lot of cringing. I
2:50:23
saw a lot of anger at some times.
2:50:27
If there was one moment that stuck out to you,
2:50:30
what would it be for you? The moment when they
2:50:32
started to go back and forth about golfing. Golfing
2:50:34
towards the end. Yeah, like what does that have
2:50:36
to do with the question of the moderator eggs?
2:50:38
And they just come back and forth and it
2:50:40
was just like, is this real?
2:50:43
Like, you just don't really see them going back
2:50:46
and forth like that. And Denise, how
2:50:48
about you? What was the moment that stuck out to you?
2:50:51
Well first, if I could just finish. He
2:50:54
did that. He did this a lot. I
2:50:56
would like to say we are not in
2:50:58
one of Donald Trump's many properties. We are
2:51:00
in heat filled Phoenix, Arizona, where we are
2:51:02
suffering from climate change. So to say that
2:51:04
there's no problem with our climate is yet
2:51:06
another lie because there were so many lies
2:51:08
told today. But a cringe moment was
2:51:11
I felt like they were in first grade,
2:51:13
second grade. It
2:51:15
was nothing as Donald Trump's fault. It's all
2:51:18
the Democratic judges that that that
2:51:21
Biden put into office. Nothing
2:51:23
is Joe Biden's fault either. It's all
2:51:26
I had cleaned up
2:51:28
your mess. So figure it out, boys,
2:51:30
because you're both wrong. And Nicole, when
2:51:32
it comes to it, I mean, I
2:51:34
saw you cringe a few times during
2:51:36
during Biden's speaking. What were your
2:51:38
thoughts when you were watching that?
2:51:41
I mean, he just really struggled. The
2:51:43
cast director to get these faces
2:51:46
all at one table with
2:51:48
their, you know, modest above
2:51:51
half a million a year
2:51:54
outfits. You know, having these
2:51:56
conversations is is pretty interesting.
2:52:00
tennis outfit here, long
2:52:02
sleeve, the other one, no sleeves.
2:52:04
I mean, this looks ridiculous. Who's
2:52:06
the casting director? Fire them. To
2:52:10
get out of coherent thoughts. And
2:52:13
then he gets sidetracked and he
2:52:15
can't get back onto the conversation.
2:52:18
It's just, it's
2:52:20
really challenging to watch him. And
2:52:23
this is one of those debate watch parties where
2:52:25
three of you said that you wouldn't have made
2:52:27
it past maybe three or four questions, you would
2:52:29
have turned it off. Very insightful coming from Phoenix,
2:52:32
Arizona. People's sorting out their
2:52:34
feelings about what they saw tonight. Gotti, thanks.
2:52:36
We have much more coverage of the first
2:52:38
presidential debate right after this. Is
2:52:43
there a comment? Trump
2:52:46
later blamed
2:52:50
each other for that. Former President Trump repeatedly
2:52:52
slamming President Biden for what he calls a
2:52:54
crisis at the southern border. He also criticized
2:52:56
Biden's handling of the wars in both Gaza
2:52:58
and Ukraine. But what are the worst moments
2:53:00
for Biden tonight when he lost track of
2:53:02
what he was saying in the middle of
2:53:05
an answer about Medicare? Making
2:53:08
sure that we continue to strengthen our
2:53:10
healthcare system, making sure that
2:53:12
we're able to make every single solitary
2:53:14
person eligible
2:53:16
for what I've been able to do with the
2:53:20
COVID, dealing
2:53:23
with everything we have to do
2:53:25
with what if
2:53:30
we finally beat Medicare. Trump
2:53:35
later questioning Biden's ability to respond to
2:53:37
those questions. And
2:53:40
I'm going to continue to move until we get the total
2:53:42
ban on the total
2:53:45
initiative relative to what we're going to
2:53:47
do with more border patrol and more
2:53:50
asylum officers. President Trump? I
2:53:52
really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
2:53:54
I don't think he knows what he said either. telling
2:54:00
NBC News President Biden has a cold. You
2:54:03
could clearly hear that during his debate performance, especially
2:54:05
when he started. No, no,
2:54:07
no. President Biden had
2:54:09
a stroke a long
2:54:11
time ago, and this is a
2:54:14
reoccurring micro stroke. Okay, so
2:54:16
let's not lie to the public. Let's
2:54:19
be right. Okay, why don't we report the news. You
2:54:21
guys are getting rid of him. Just go all in,
2:54:23
please. Just like these little
2:54:26
snippets, they were perfect. Biden
2:54:28
did get his own daggers in, including the
2:54:30
moment he brought up Trump's criminal conviction. How
2:54:34
many billions of dollars do you owe in civil
2:54:36
families for molesting a
2:54:38
woman in public, for doing a whole
2:54:40
range of things, of having
2:54:42
sex with a porn star on the night you
2:54:44
were given while your wife was pregnant? I didn't
2:54:46
have sex with a porn star. No,
2:54:51
okay, so I'm going to pretend I'm Trump,
2:54:53
okay? So now I'm going to let
2:54:55
him say that. Let me rewind it. And
2:55:00
then I'm going to answer, and I'm Trump. The
2:55:02
moment he brought up Trump's criminal conviction. How
2:55:06
many billions of dollars do you owe in civil families for
2:55:09
molesting a woman in public, for doing a
2:55:11
whole range of things, of having
2:55:14
sex with a porn star on the night you
2:55:16
were given while your wife was pregnant? I
2:55:18
didn't have sex with a porn star. So I
2:55:21
didn't have sex with a porn star, okay?
2:55:23
Let's get something straight. I never
2:55:25
raped E.J. Carroll. She's crazy, okay?
2:55:27
And you guys paid her, and we
2:55:29
should just believe her because she has a vagina, okay? She ruined
2:55:31
it for any woman that wants to talk rape. But
2:55:35
in this case, she didn't remember. She kind of thought, and
2:55:37
she picked my favorite store on the whole planet to say
2:55:39
that she was... No
2:55:41
one would touch you, E.J. Carroll. You're insane.
2:55:43
So then he goes on about saying, owing
2:55:48
civil penalties, the ones you impose. This
2:55:51
is how lawfare works in America. For those
2:55:53
of you that are listening on WeChat right
2:55:55
now and out in Africa, we
2:55:57
love you, and I know you guys
2:55:59
are laughing. But it's scary and thank
2:56:01
you for the sentiment here in America.
2:56:04
I'm gonna say I
2:56:06
can't I can't even I can't so
2:56:10
and you're telling me about civil penalties,
2:56:12
huh? Well, here's here's the thing Oh
2:56:14
let's talk about your stash money in
2:56:16
the Bahamas and how you were Getting
2:56:18
money from your son from China and
2:56:20
Ukraine and how you were funneling 10%
2:56:22
to the big guy, you know But
2:56:24
rock who's saying Obama? Oh, let's talk
2:56:26
about how for the past, you know,
2:56:28
almost four years Everyone in
2:56:30
your White House can't stand the people
2:56:33
that are in there because they're all
2:56:35
Obama people and people don't like Obama
2:56:37
Okay, why don't we talk about that? You're
2:56:40
talking about civil penalties. Let's talk about the
2:56:42
tax fraud Oh, we should get into that.
2:56:44
Oh wait. No, we're gonna have to wait till the courts
2:56:46
do it, right? This
2:56:49
is it. This is what you got
2:56:51
you put the courts on him. That
2:56:53
is exactly what they do They lawfare
2:56:55
people with crimes as civil, you know
2:56:58
remedies So they can taint your character
2:57:00
and they can tank your bank account
2:57:02
and that is what they did just
2:57:04
talking talking talking But the
2:57:07
fact that his daughter's diary said
2:57:09
that he took naked showers with
2:57:11
her and molested her is not
2:57:13
Anybody's lips the fact that there
2:57:15
are pictures in there with you
2:57:17
waving your salami in Africa on
2:57:20
your son's laptop Mr.
2:57:22
Joe Biden is not on anybody's
2:57:24
lips But you're gonna
2:57:26
start talking about that man who never had
2:57:28
a problem Until he
2:57:30
decided to fight for what he thought
2:57:33
right which is freedom democracy, you know
2:57:35
and all that stuff now all that
2:57:37
jazz so All
2:57:43
right, we want to go to some live pictures right
2:57:45
now we understand we have president Biden has gone to
2:57:47
a watch party here in Atlanta debate, let's listen in
2:57:53
Let's keep going see
2:57:55
you at the next one. God. Love
2:57:57
you all head to North Carolina
2:58:03
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
2:58:05
you. I want to go home with you. Thank
2:58:08
you. All right. We
2:58:16
were just listening to... And there he is
2:58:18
shaking hands with Pretty Tammy the DJ. Did
2:58:22
you see that? Pretty Tammy the
2:58:24
DJ. Okay? He's shaking hands with her. I'm
2:58:27
gonna be nice. So,
2:58:29
and he's going home with all those children there.
2:58:32
And you know, another thing is weird
2:58:34
because tomorrow he has an LGBTQ convention
2:58:36
in New York City, which is going
2:58:39
to be protested the shit out of
2:58:41
because we've been watching the protesters conversing
2:58:43
about how they're going to protest the
2:58:45
shit out of that place. But he's
2:58:48
going to North Carolina. Maybe
2:58:50
he can travel in two places, you know,
2:58:52
in this condition of course he can. Of
2:58:55
course. Because of
2:58:57
course. President Biden right
2:59:00
there at his post debate watch party
2:59:02
trying to fire up the crowd there.
2:59:04
I want to get right over for
2:59:06
Chief Political Analyst, NBC's Chuck Todd. Chuck,
2:59:09
this was quite the debate for a variety of
2:59:11
reasons. It was a debate unlike any other we've
2:59:13
seen. I want to give get
2:59:15
your analysis immediately after this debate and what it
2:59:17
means. Look, we
2:59:20
began this conversation. Oh
2:59:22
my gosh. Did I just see
2:59:24
Chuck Todd move like he had a Lincoln
2:59:26
logo and you got uncomfortable? Chuck
2:59:29
Todd, I'm totally going to enjoy this. I
2:59:31
want to hear your commentary. Oh
2:59:33
my gosh. This is like a dream come true. I
2:59:35
couldn't have pictured this better. Before this
2:59:37
debate, you know, one of the things was would
2:59:39
either candidate look like the caricature that
2:59:41
the other campaign has been trying to paint of them.
2:59:44
And at the end of the day, Joe Biden looks
2:59:46
like the caricature that conservative media
2:59:49
has been painting. And
2:59:51
there were no clips tonight, right? This was you
2:59:53
saw it before your eyes. Look, I
2:59:56
don't want to just tell you what I think here,
2:59:58
Tom.
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