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2:41

right. Welcome to this edition of At the

2:43

Mic. I'm your host, Keith Malinak. It

2:46

is the Thursday Deep Dive edition where

2:48

we sit down and we

2:50

have a chat about a specific topic.

2:53

On Friday afternoons, we kind

2:56

of loosen it up and just do the

2:58

Friday live stream. And tomorrow it's going to

3:00

be an all-female cast joining me. Several

3:03

of my friends and coworkers will be a part

3:05

of that. So I hope you'll join us where

3:07

there's going to be plenty of animal videos of

3:09

course. So be sure to join us. Same time,

3:11

2 o'clock Eastern tomorrow. Now a week from today

3:13

on July 4th at 2 p.m. Eastern, we are

3:15

going to do a live stream and

3:18

it's going to be about election integrity. So

3:20

you can learn all of the ways that

3:22

your sacred vote is at risk

3:25

in this country. And

3:27

it's going to be an eye-opening discussion. I'm also

3:30

looking forward, I can't remember the

3:32

date off the top of my head, I'm also

3:34

looking forward to picking apart the FBI with Steve

3:36

Friend. By the way, you

3:38

should check out Steve's podcast over at

3:40

rumble.com. So anyhow, a lot of good

3:42

stuff coming up that we are going

3:44

to dissect here on the Thursday live

3:46

stream. And then again, the lighthearted stuff

3:48

on Fridays at 2 p.m. Eastern. That's

3:51

pretty much all that I needed to cover out of

3:53

the gate here. I really wanted to get right into

3:55

this because today's topic is

3:58

something that fascinates me. And

4:00

I will be completely honest with you upfront.

4:02

I don't know which side I come

4:05

down on. And I hope that today

4:07

our program can not only help me,

4:09

but help you kind of pick which

4:11

side of the issue that

4:14

you're on, weather modification. I

4:17

don't think it can be argued that some sort of

4:19

manipulation is happening, even if it's just something as simple

4:21

as cloud seeding. But we're gonna see if it's

4:24

a little bit deeper than that.

4:26

So our number two today is

4:28

chief meteorologist over at weatherbell.com, Joe

4:30

Bastardi. He will have an hour to

4:32

present his case where he will say, no, the

4:35

weather is not being manipulated on a massive scale.

4:37

And we're just gonna let him make

4:39

it. And I will ask questions that they come up. I

4:41

hope you will ask your questions in the comments. We'll get

4:44

to as many as those we can. And

4:46

our number one, I'm done battling.

4:48

I'm gonna put Tori says up here

4:50

because she is going to make the

4:52

case that absolutely the

4:55

weather is being manipulated. And

4:57

here is how I am so looking forward

4:59

to this conversation. Tori, thanks for making time.

5:02

I appreciate it. Thank

5:05

you for having me. Thank you for having me. That

5:07

was me. I was me. That's cool.

5:10

And by the way, before I

5:12

forget, toriessays.com, Tori says show over

5:15

on Rumble. Tori, you are ubiquitous,

5:18

I think is the word. You're everywhere.

5:23

All right, cool. On Twitter, you're at

5:25

I don't exist, Tori, T-O-R-E, if people

5:27

would like to follow you over there.

5:29

So I have a few

5:32

things that I want to ask you about that

5:34

have crossed my path in the

5:36

couple of weeks leading up to this conversation.

5:39

And we'll get to those. But

5:41

I want you to just take the

5:44

wheel right now. Tell us what

5:46

we need to know about

5:48

this topic of weather modification.

5:50

How intense is this? Are

5:54

complete weather patterns, is it beyond the

5:56

cloud seeding? Take it away, Tori. Yeah.

5:59

Thank you. So people

6:02

need to know that weather modification is

6:04

scientifically grounded, right? And it's an actual

6:06

real technology. And it

6:08

has been developed and utilized

6:10

for various purposes, including military,

6:12

agricultural, and also

6:14

environmental applications. Now,

6:17

this technology encompasses methods such

6:19

as cloud seeding, like you

6:21

said, to induce precipitation, altering

6:23

wind patterns, and modifying

6:25

temperatures. Now, despite its

6:27

widespread use, weather modification remains

6:30

shrouded in this controversy and

6:32

often operates with very

6:34

minimal oversight. And that leads

6:36

to significant ethical and regulatory

6:39

concerns, right? So the

6:41

reality of weather modification, you can actually

6:43

trace it back to early experiments in

6:45

the mid 20th century. For

6:47

instance, cloud seeding, which involves what?

6:49

They disperse substances like silver iodide

6:51

into the clouds to encourage rain

6:54

formation. And that was practiced actually

6:56

since the 40s. And there

6:58

was a show that I had done a

7:00

while ago about Operation Popeye, where I kind

7:02

of just introduced the concept,

7:05

never did a deep dive or got

7:07

into the intricacies. And I think the

7:09

intricacies in regards to the technology used

7:12

are for people that are scientists to understand it

7:14

better. So I'm going to try to keep it

7:16

as simple as possible today. So

7:18

just so you guys know, short background, Operation

7:21

Popeye was actually during the Vietnam War. It

7:23

was used. And the US

7:25

military actually used cloud seeding to

7:27

extend monsoon seasons to disrupt enemy

7:30

logistics. Now, this is all well

7:32

documented because then there were

7:34

laws passed and global treaties saying we're

7:36

not going to be weaponizing weather. Like

7:39

these are facts. Oh, because we're

7:41

good at following the treaties and

7:43

offering them, right? Right. But that

7:45

was actually done, right? There was

7:47

a whole hearing. They

7:50

put it out. We're not allowed

7:52

to use this for weaponization

7:54

purposes, right? So

7:57

for people to actually deny the existence

7:59

of freedom. feasibility of weather modification just

8:01

in general is either a lack of

8:04

education on the subject or maybe a

8:06

deliberate attempt to Obscure the realities or

8:08

the potential problems in it, right? So

8:11

this technology though, it seems pretty

8:13

straightforward and it involves like complex

8:15

methodologies that can manipulate Atmospheric

8:18

conditions on a very significant

8:20

scale, you know,

8:22

like including rain suppressing hail reducing

8:24

fog creating

8:26

fog you know and

8:29

mitigating severe severe weather

8:31

events or creating them

8:34

now for instance precipitation

8:36

modification right through cloud seeding is

8:38

employed to like enhance water supplies

8:40

in drought prone areas, right? So

8:42

it shows its potential benefits and

8:46

In a need for careful management. I mean it

8:48

was Saudi Arabia who you know I think it

8:50

was a few years ago was like hey, you

8:52

know, we finally got the good, you know Formula

8:55

here where it just rains a little bit

8:57

so we don't overdrown ourselves and we got

8:59

rain. So we're great You know the advertise

9:01

it they talked about it. It was news

9:03

and people still say it's not real Well

9:06

similarly their efforts to modify

9:08

wind patterns and temperature to

9:11

impact agricultural productivity climate

9:14

resilience and it you

9:16

know This this highlights the diverse

9:18

applications and implications of the technology,

9:20

but again, I stress there's a

9:22

lack of comprehensive regulatory frameworks and

9:24

oversight mechanisms and that is a

9:27

concern because of the unintended Consequences

9:30

of such interventions that come

9:32

for one I will you

9:34

know, I assert on that

9:36

that You know El Nino

9:38

is not a phenomenon that

9:40

just happened. Okay, it

9:43

happened Wait a minute. So you're

9:45

saying that that is a part of the manipulation

9:47

factor. Yes The historical precedence

9:49

of weather modification from operation Popeye and

9:51

cloud city that's the only stuff you

9:53

know Okay, and

9:55

we have to understand that we've

9:57

had technological advances in geoengineering like

9:59

soda solar radiation management and marine

10:01

cloud brightening, right, we have, you

10:03

know, that has caused potential

10:06

impacts in ocean temperatures because of

10:08

this, right. So, you know,

10:10

just like our body has like a feedback

10:12

mechanism as a dome,

10:14

my own personal bio dome, right, has

10:17

feedback mechanisms. That's how we operate. Our

10:19

hormones give feedback, positive, negative feedback and

10:21

they self-regulate. Well, the same thing happens

10:23

with the planet, right. Our

10:27

cosmos that we are in, this bio dome that

10:29

we live in, has its own

10:32

feedback mechanism. So, consider the

10:34

fact that these complex feedback mechanisms,

10:36

the climate system, is highly sensitive

10:38

and it involves highly complex

10:41

mechanisms. So, small changes in one

10:43

part of the system can lead

10:45

to significant and often unpredictable outcomes

10:47

somewhere else. So, weather modification

10:50

afterwards, even if they're localized, potentially

10:53

alter atmospheric and oceanic circulations. Well,

10:55

no, I should take the word

10:57

potentially off. They do alter atmospheric

11:00

and oceanic circulations and that contributes

11:02

to phenomena like El Nino, right.

11:04

So, as I said, we had

11:07

the the cloud seeding experiment in

11:09

the 40s in Vietnam in 1952

11:12

in Linmouth. There was a flood

11:14

triggered by British cloud seeding tests,

11:16

right, that also illustrate the potential

11:19

of unexpected and severe climatic

11:21

consequences. Now, I'm not an expert

11:23

in weather. I'm not a weatherman, but I am

11:25

a scientist and I consider myself smart, right.

11:28

So, I kind of, you know,

11:30

have read into this because, you

11:32

know, simple things make you think.

11:34

Like I, there was once, I

11:37

engaged, just so you understand how, how, how

11:39

we should be learning, is, you know, there's

11:41

like these little phrases that come. Someone said,

11:43

I don't eat soft bread. And I was

11:45

like, what does that, who says that? Looking

11:48

into it, I found out, oh wow, the

11:50

problem is in gluten. It's the way we preserve soft

11:53

breads. Aha. And I

11:55

found the chemical that's the only chemical that we don't

11:57

research. So, when it came to weather

11:59

modification, What shocked me was that

12:01

we literally have a company in the

12:04

United States get this

12:07

Called weather Modification

12:10

incorporated that's located in

12:12

North Dakota right by

12:14

one of the biggest aerospace study

12:16

centers Right and it's like and

12:19

it's been operating since the 70s by some guy named

12:21

Patrick Sweeney And so people are like,

12:23

you know, that doesn't have oh, it's just cloud seeding first.

12:25

It was it doesn't happen Then it's just

12:27

cloud seeding When it's like

12:29

no, it's a weapon it

12:31

can be used as punishment. It could be used as chaff,

12:33

you know in You

12:36

know when you have a ship and you want to

12:38

obscure it from you know Other

12:41

weapons coming your way like to divert

12:43

missiles, right? You throw chaff, you know

12:46

You throw things to deflect so it doesn't know where it's

12:48

going Well, you do the

12:50

same thing with weather if I want to listen

12:52

in on your communications But then

12:54

there's like this huge storm and there's so

12:56

much rain and noise My

12:59

equipment's not gonna work If

13:01

I wait a minute that feels like

13:03

a segue that that feels like we're

13:06

getting to Russia's visit to Havana Yes

13:08

a couple of weeks back and in

13:10

fact Before you

13:13

get into that discussion You

13:17

and I want people to understand Neither

13:20

Tori nor Joe who will be here an hour

13:22

to have sent me Anything

13:24

to present to you here These are all videos

13:27

that I found and tweets that I found on

13:29

my own that I wanted to talk to them

13:31

each about And and one of the things that

13:33

you had mentioned is the Russians Sailing

13:36

into Cuba back. What was it two

13:38

weeks ago now almost two weeks to

13:40

the day and At that

13:43

exact time you did mention to me

13:45

you said You

13:47

said hey check out what the weather was

13:49

doing when the Russians were

13:52

rolling into Cuba for

13:54

their little presentation with the submarines and the warships and

13:56

stuff like that. And so I went

13:58

and I It

26:00

just can't be just for good. I mean,

26:02

either way, the head of that whole program

26:04

at the UN is literally China. So

26:08

it's like whatever. But

26:11

again, it is highly

26:13

multifaceted, but all

26:15

nations have this. And

26:18

it's a very real reality. And

26:20

if they want to make an argument for climate

26:22

change, I mean, look at all those kids right

26:24

now in New York, climate, crying about it. Now

26:26

they're being validated because the temperature is like 110

26:28

degrees and it's like, it's really hot

26:31

and it's like, let's just crank it up. That's

26:34

what I wanted to ask you is

26:37

exactly that with climate change

26:39

constantly being on the lips

26:41

of government officials. Let's

26:44

just say for the sake of this

26:46

conversation that you can control the weather

26:48

to the point

26:50

where you could control your agenda's success.

26:55

You could see where, oh my gosh,

26:57

the people that are pushing climate change

27:00

and policies, green policies and all that,

27:03

you could see how maybe if they could

27:05

manipulate the weather, they would use that in

27:07

order to, like you just said, cause

27:10

a heat wave in the Northeast, cause

27:12

flooding ridiculous things and then call it this weird

27:14

weather thing that's been caused by climate change. We

27:16

must do something when perhaps they're the

27:19

puppet masters, huh? Well, it's almost

27:21

like Justy Smollett. Remember who were

27:23

the ones that pushed that lynching bill? It was

27:25

Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. Weren't they

27:27

the ones suddenly as they're pushing this bill

27:29

Smollett turns up with like bleach on him

27:31

and a noose, which was all fake. It's

27:33

the same thing. They will manufacture

27:36

the evidence to push their agenda,

27:38

whatever it is, right? So weather

27:40

is not off the table either.

27:42

In fact, if these

27:44

people really wanted to hold people accountable for

27:46

climate change, they should be rocking the boat

27:48

on this El Nino phenomenon that was created

27:51

because of all the experimentations that they've done.

27:53

Okay. So it's just come

27:55

out of nowhere, right? It happened because

27:57

we're constantly picking and changing things and

27:59

doing things. I mean, you know, I

28:01

joked and I'm not gonna say with

28:03

who and at what period of

28:05

time but in the past five years with someone in

28:07

Congress And I said damn if you don't

28:09

do this bill and he's like yep, they're probably gonna send

28:11

tornadoes my way They know the thing

28:14

is your own representatives know that

28:17

they could probably be punished With

28:19

sending tornadoes and devastation to their state

28:21

if they don't do things That's

28:24

what's insane. And that's why I had

28:26

hounded down Wuhan

28:28

Kansas Manhattan Kansas suddenly got all the BSL for

28:31

lab We put it in the middle of the

28:33

beef belt all they have to do is program

28:35

a tornado to go through there and

28:37

we've got kovat on steroids and It's

28:40

gonna be legit You're gonna need to

28:42

repeat that for people like me that

28:44

maybe aren't too sure what you're referring

28:46

to Manhattan, Kansas Right. Okay. So hold

28:48

on before you before you before you

28:50

continue this I

28:52

had a friend who lived in Manhattan. I was

28:54

there. I think it was 2020

28:57

and he drove me by I got the tour of

28:59

Manhattan and He drove

29:02

me by I know what you're talking about to

29:04

a degree and The limited

29:06

conversation that he and I had about it. I

29:08

thought this is before This

29:10

was before Covid I believe I

29:12

don't know And and I

29:14

just remember driving by this go it. Okay, that

29:17

seems like there could be an issue there

29:20

if something ever Escapes,

29:23

but I don't remember all the details of

29:25

our conversation He and I had please tell

29:28

us what what is based in Manhattan, Kansas

29:30

that you just referred to Yeah So my

29:32

listeners and myself irritated the Manhattan, Kansas people

29:34

so bad that now they're actually coined Wuhan,

29:37

Kansas They

29:40

were like stopping people we sent them so

29:42

many letters to not open up the facility

29:44

and this was during Covid and here's why

29:46

Plum Island off New York is known to

29:48

have been conducting experiments And the reason they

29:50

use my land in New York was because

29:52

of the way the weather was and how

29:54

sequestered it was therefore If there was any

29:56

escape of foot and mouth disease or anything

29:58

like that, which is very you know high

30:01

it spreads really quickly through through

30:03

the bovine class right which means cows

30:05

right so what they

30:07

did was during the Obama regime

30:10

they decided hey it'll be a great idea we're gonna shut

30:12

it down from Plum Island in New York out there where

30:14

we have it's a question and we're gonna put it smack

30:16

in the middle of the beef belt because it'll be safe

30:18

there in the middle of our food

30:20

supply we're just gonna put a BSL level for

30:22

lab right which

30:25

means these are viruses and bacteria right that

30:27

are weaponized this is where we have our

30:29

gain of function right and they put it

30:31

right there and I was like this is

30:33

pure insanity we need to stop it and

30:35

it seemed like nobody wanted to hear it

30:37

right and unfortunately it opened up in

30:40

2022 right but that's the thing if

30:42

if someone wants to get at us like say

30:44

our enemy China they don't need to send a

30:46

nuke they could just send a couple of

30:48

tornadoes and we're screwed our

30:51

food is all gone that and

30:53

see because this is a real

30:55

technology so so this is see these

30:57

are the things we should be focusing on

30:59

as citizens to hold them accountable the first

31:02

thing is I just want to know all

31:04

these idiots have voted to tell me you

31:06

may not be an expert in virology or

31:08

even cow management or you you know whatever

31:10

you know your beef belt is there right

31:12

you know your wheat belt is there and

31:14

your food why would they even think that

31:16

it would be smart to just put something

31:18

like that which by the way is through

31:21

tornado alley too man

31:25

every time I have a question I think it's something else

31:27

or somebody else has one that's a good question right there

31:30

from one Italian six nine eight how do

31:32

you create a tornado I mean do you

31:34

know the ins and outs of that okay

31:37

so we're talking like wind modification right

31:42

well you can counter

31:44

it well there's marine cloud

31:46

brightening there's suppression techniques I

31:48

mean all you have to do is manipulate

31:52

temperature and the pressure so that way you

31:54

can change it like I know that you

31:56

know if you use cloud seeding you can

31:59

actually you know disperse things into

32:01

storm systems to encourage

32:04

it to rain out the hurricane

32:06

before it actually intensifies. So

32:09

when it's a category three, you'll go in

32:11

there and throw things so that way it

32:13

starts to rain really hard and go. Another

32:16

one is you put seawater into the atmosphere

32:18

to create more reflection of the clouds so

32:20

it can cool the surface temperatures, right? So

32:23

that way that would be critical to create

32:25

that vacuum. So you could do a lot

32:27

of things. I'm

32:29

not an expert in it, but I'm sure if I

32:31

sat down with a pen and paper, I could figure

32:33

out the physics. But you would

32:35

have to manipulate both temperature and atmospheric

32:38

pressures to get it going. So

32:40

that's how you would deter tornadoes and in

32:43

turn make them. Right. Okay.

32:46

We got to visit the tornadoes here in just a

32:48

second. But first I want to thank everyone that

32:50

has joined us on this discussion. If you

32:52

aren't familiar with At The Mic, I hope

32:55

you will hit the like button, subscribe, youtube.com/at

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32:59

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33:01

look at that, we got a little puppy back there.

33:03

By the way, Tori

33:07

Says Show over on Rumble,

33:10

please go and subscribe and follow her

33:12

as well. Okay, Tori,

33:14

you just talked about tornadoes were

33:17

a discussion there. I don't

33:19

know that, I want to throw these videos

33:21

at you, these radar loops. If

33:24

you're not interested in them, then so be it. But

33:27

I pulled these. This

33:29

first one is from Chris Wickland. I

33:31

saw this tweet. This is from Oklahoma

33:35

tornado. I think this was 2023. Yeah,

33:38

April 2023. And

33:41

so the thing that he's

33:43

saying here, you see how it's,

33:45

you know, generally weather moves from west to east.

33:47

We all know that. But

33:49

the point that he was making on this is that, yeah, sure,

33:51

it's moving west to east. But then,

33:53

you know, this thing tails up to the northwest,

33:56

spins off a tornado to the southeast. It

33:58

was... And by the way, all of these... references that I'm

34:01

going to put up here on the screen. Nobody

34:03

here in their tweets talked about this

34:05

being manipulated weather. I just went and

34:07

found these because they just seem so

34:09

unnatural. There was that

34:12

one. Then there is the

34:14

Jackson Fuentes one that's very

34:16

similar where you've

34:18

got rotation happening here. This

34:23

one is going

34:25

from east to west there. I mean,

34:27

this is the northern hemisphere. This stuff is

34:29

so odd for this

34:32

stuff to be happening. Look at that one,

34:34

man. I mean, that one clearly goes east

34:36

to west. This one from Sam Schamberger. I

34:40

don't know. Just looking at these, these

34:43

just feel unnatural. I'm not saying they're

34:45

manipulated. I'm not saying that at all.

34:47

I'm just saying they're weird

34:50

and they're happening more and more frequently.

34:52

At least it appears that way. Any

34:54

thoughts on that? Yeah. This

34:56

could be countermeasures that were taken

34:59

or it could just be a

35:01

disruption in the actual positive or

35:03

negative feedback that the biodome has

35:06

because of continuous,

35:09

continuous, continuous insulting

35:14

its atmospheres with things. Hang

35:16

on. There's never a time where

35:19

they just sit back and go, you

35:21

know what? We're going to take it

35:24

easy and let America have natural weather

35:26

for the next week. You're saying this

35:28

is a constant give and take, a

35:30

pull and push going on with countries

35:32

worldwide? No, no, no, not constant. What

35:35

I'm saying is it's actually, you

35:37

know, being a weatherman, it's really hard

35:39

to predict. Now your probability of predictions

35:41

since the 50s when it could have

35:43

been predictable because you understood the circadian

35:45

rhythms of the biodome at that time,

35:47

right, could have been predictable. Now you're

35:49

down to like, what, 60%, you

35:52

know, predictability and that's taking in factors

35:54

of the El Nino effects and all

35:56

these other things they've done. That's the

35:58

problem we have. And AI

36:01

will be now your weatherman

36:03

because AI will have access

36:05

to that data and can

36:07

predict in a more solid

36:09

fashion how the repercussions of

36:11

what we've done is

36:13

being exasperated in our atmosphere.

36:16

I see what you're saying. The constant

36:18

joke, regardless of where you grew

36:20

up or where you live is

36:22

the weatherman is never right or

36:25

right half the time, whatever. My

36:27

goodness, I am

36:29

a weather geek, 100%

36:32

since I was a small child. I have

36:34

never known weather and this is, I

36:37

think this statement actually is

36:39

more shocking. I've

36:42

never known weather forecasters to be

36:44

this wrong, this consistent and have

36:46

no clue, I'm not talking

36:49

about your 10 day forecast or five days or 72 hours. I'm

36:52

talking about from morning to

36:54

early afternoon, they have no

36:56

idea this is a constant theme. And then

36:58

I sit back and I think, wait

37:01

a minute, they have access to so much

37:03

more technology now than they had 20, 30

37:05

years ago. They

37:08

have computers, models, everything

37:10

you can imagine at their fingertips, why

37:12

are they getting it so wrong now?

37:14

Is this the answer? Well,

37:18

artificial intelligence is the only answer

37:20

because unfortunately the human mind can't

37:22

crunch so many data sets. Like

37:24

I said, no one's gonna change my mind

37:27

on this. My research myself, right, myself, right.

37:29

And I'm not an expert, but I

37:31

know math and I know physics very well, right.

37:34

Tells me that El Nino is a production, right.

37:37

And it's a repercussion or it's a

37:39

reminder of all the weather modifications. If

37:41

you notice it's in a specific place

37:44

and it comes and goes and it's

37:46

almost like an inflammation exasperation, right. Or

37:48

it's like a birth control,

37:50

for example, right. Women, when they

37:52

take birth control, they have to have periods to

37:55

regulate their periods, to not get pregnant, blah, blah,

37:57

blah. But the repercussions on your hormonal feedback system,

37:59

right, cause other. issues. You'll be more

38:01

prone to osteoporosis, maybe depending on

38:03

your biodome and how the

38:06

feedback mechanisms to you or your uterine lining

38:08

will be so thin you can't have kids.

38:10

You know there's a lot of feedback mechanisms

38:12

in our body so if you take it

38:14

from a micro scale of your body and

38:17

how there's positive and negative, imagine the planet,

38:19

the atmosphere that so many that have different jobs

38:21

to do right and you're going in there and

38:23

insulting them and saying no you're gonna rain right

38:26

now and it's like but I want to rain

38:28

it's not the time right you're gonna rain and

38:30

then it's like confused so then

38:32

there's no feedback and then we get this so

38:34

it's a constant this is why the weatherman can't

38:36

get it right because it's

38:38

not what they were taught it's

38:40

not you know a

38:43

body that's pure anymore it's been

38:45

tainted with medications right like if

38:47

a doctor looked at you a hundred years ago they'd

38:49

be able to tell you what's wrong with you but

38:51

now with all this medicine and you know printed 3d

38:54

fruits and foods that you get you

38:57

can't you can't so it's the same thing with

38:59

the weatherman they're judging based on

39:01

you know a purity of the earth

39:03

it's like there's no purity guys so

39:08

if El Nino La

39:10

Nina both of those are

39:14

manufactured is that is it they're

39:16

actually byproducts of us tampering with

39:19

the weather systems okay in in

39:22

how long has that been the

39:24

case because I remember I

39:26

know in the 90s there was at least

39:28

a thing you know El Nino because I

39:30

remember the Chris Farley bit on Saturday Night

39:32

Live yo soy in the 40s when we

39:34

started weather modifications that's right that's right okay

39:36

so that's interesting so you're saying that

39:38

this just they developed

39:41

at some point based on

39:44

what we're doing correct okay

39:47

all right I want to put I want

39:49

to put one more thing on the screen here for a couple more

39:51

things but first boy

39:54

there was a we're doing in Antarctica right

39:56

just saying okay see now you're gonna

39:58

make me write down another question you. So

40:01

hold on to the Antarctic at the because anybody

40:04

that lives in Texas, I'm

40:08

sitting here thinking, it's just been

40:10

some very weird stuff like

40:13

Houston. I remember one morning they had was

40:15

a Sunday morning I believe it was just

40:17

ridiculous winds just hit downtown Houston. But anyway

40:20

I think that was the start of

40:22

Texas the wild ride that we went

40:25

on for several weeks where we had

40:27

these most ridiculous storms. I live in

40:29

North Texas and it

40:31

was one pummeling after another that

40:36

you're just like what is happening and like

40:38

on days when they would say because see

40:40

weathermen are smart they'll put on the screen

40:42

a 10% chance right and then

40:45

that'll allow them go look we said there was a chance

40:47

you know and so it

40:49

was just brutal and

40:51

one after another. Well along that time

40:54

frame there a few weeks ago another

40:57

guy this is an inter-thin air he

40:59

posted something is there anything to this

41:01

kind of radar imagery that you see

41:04

he kind of explains it here but

41:06

he's trying to focus us on this

41:08

one area here in fact I

41:10

forgot if it was him or it might have

41:13

been somebody else actually predicted and

41:16

I don't know it was this one specific but

41:18

but you see how all these little blips come

41:20

up now now I'm gonna play

41:22

this for Joe and there may be a perfectly fine

41:25

explanation I'm looking forward to hearing what he is saying about

41:27

this but he is trying to

41:30

say that this inter-thin air guy there there's

41:32

his handle bottom right corner he's

41:34

trying to say that this is clear whether a

41:36

modification and I don't think

41:39

it was him but somebody did predict 48

41:41

hours out on

41:43

one of these weird

41:45

days where where we experienced

41:48

a pummeling that that

41:50

wasn't predicted and and

41:52

I remember filing that away okay I saw that because I

41:54

was getting ready for this show and I was like oh

41:57

this is great you got 48 hours to

41:59

see if North Texas is gonna get hit by this thing

42:01

he saw. And sure enough, I wanna give

42:03

credit to the guy, but I can't remember who it was. And

42:06

it happened, just like he said,

42:08

and I'm like, okay, and he was pointing to

42:10

something similar to that imagery

42:12

there. The bleep on the

42:15

side of the weather storm. Yeah, what's what?

42:17

It disappeared. It appeared, yeah.

42:19

Yeah, that looks like counter weather modification. Because

42:21

if you notice, it became red really out

42:23

of the blue and then, you know,

42:25

green. So think of it like

42:27

a seesaw, right? So if you've got atmospheric

42:30

pressure high here, I'm just making this up.

42:32

This isn't rooted in science. I'm trying to

42:34

simplify it. Because, you know, not everyone's a

42:37

scientist. So you've got high

42:39

and low, and you wanna bring it to the

42:41

middle, right? You're gonna give a

42:44

lot of low to bring the high

42:46

down. And you have to do it

42:48

geographically, the terrain plays a thing,

42:50

and no, no, no, no, no. I keep

42:52

seeing lasers on your tat. Let me tell

42:54

you guys, lasers are what I just said.

42:56

It's SRM technology, right? That's how

42:59

you modify the temperatures.

43:01

You either create

43:03

clouds, weird clouds,

43:06

specific ones that are specific

43:08

to trapping the heat, or

43:11

you dissipate to reflect more. So

43:13

I'm kind of

43:15

trying to explain as well as

43:17

I can. We don't have

43:19

much time, but that's all people

43:21

need to know is that weather modification is

43:24

real. There are legit companies

43:26

with that name. This

43:29

DNA, it's not hard to look it up.

43:31

You could just go to CoPilot, Chat, GPT,

43:33

or Grok, and be like, yo, give me

43:35

a list of all the weather modification companies

43:37

here. And then you could also ask it

43:39

to look at the receipts. Nobody uses usaspending.gov.

43:43

The stuff that you're- I meant to write that down. I

43:45

meant to write that down. All you have

43:47

to do, if you wanna find out if

43:49

someone got paid, and you know what, it'll

43:51

guide you to contracts. And actually one of

43:53

those contracts took me to Maven, which was

43:55

the head of the snake in regards to

43:57

what happened in Maui with weather modification.

44:00

I've got one more show

44:03

and tell here that I'm looking forward to

44:05

asking both you and Joe, who

44:08

is coming up hour two to make

44:12

the case that our weather is not

44:14

being manipulated. So as we

44:16

explain El Nino and how that

44:18

spontaneously occurred, you know, 50 years

44:21

after we've been using weather modification, not

44:23

just us, but other nations, because if

44:26

we're doing it, the Chinese, the Saudis,

44:29

Indians, well, we know that

44:31

they're doing it. So I feel that there's

44:35

an explanation, a natural explanation for

44:37

what I'm about to put on the screen. I just, my

44:40

simple mind doesn't know it. So I'm asking you

44:42

guys, this right

44:44

here was a tweet from five

44:46

days ago, Congressman Thomas Massey, who

44:48

I think is awesome. And

44:51

he was in the Pacific Northwest. And

44:54

he just had a simple tweet that said interesting

44:56

cloud activity here in the Pacific Northwest today. And

44:59

there you can see what

45:02

he was seeing overhead. Let

45:06

me go through these one at a time

45:08

here. I guess you can kind of see

45:10

them all there. We don't really need to.

45:13

So interesting stuff. And then somebody responded to

45:16

that. Let me get his

45:18

explanation here that you might

45:20

find interesting. If I can

45:22

find it, there is King libertarian. Here we go. Is

45:26

that showing up on the screen

45:28

there? Yes, it is. Okay, so

45:30

he wrote high and he was

45:32

a stratospheric aerosol injection, high altitude

45:34

aerosol injection, also known as stratospheric

45:36

aerosol inject, SAI is

45:38

a proposed method of solar geoengineering

45:41

aimed at reducing global warming. This

45:44

technique involves injecting reflective particles such

45:46

as sulfate aerosols into the stratosphere

45:48

to reflect sunlight and cool the

45:51

planet. The concept is inspired by

45:53

the cooling effects observed after a

45:55

large volcanic eruptions, which

45:57

release sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere.

46:00

So it's what

46:03

I said, that's how you decrease temperature, right?

46:05

Didn't I say that you put in, you

46:08

put things that reflect more sunlight back to

46:10

space to reduce the amount of heat absorbed

46:12

by the Earth's surface, or the Earth's surface,

46:15

right? Or, you know, injecting

46:17

aerosols, like I said earlier, into the

46:19

stratosphere. And that scatters

46:21

sunlight so it cools the planet. Now,

46:24

this isn't about global warming. This

46:26

is about them wanting to cool those

46:28

temperatures in the Pacific Northwest in

46:30

the summer, as opposed to

46:32

heating them. And that is a countermeasure for the

46:35

heat you're seeing on the East Coast. This

46:39

is to temper the atmosphere. They

46:41

know that could be vicious and it would make

46:43

sense that they'd want to cool the West while

46:46

they're increasing the heat. Because,

46:48

you know, you're a meteorologist, you could take what

46:50

I just said and say, you know, let's pretend

46:52

that I'm right. Okay? That's

46:54

how people should look at things. That's how I look at things

46:56

when I don't like what I hear. Let's

46:58

pretend that they're right. We

47:01

know how the jet stream goes. Just think of that. And we know that

47:03

the temperatures are insane. And

47:05

we know we have riots. I mean, they're even calling

47:07

it the summer of heat. Come on, guys. Like,

47:10

they're telling you this. And these are

47:12

universities that are funding them that fund the

47:14

very research about climate change, too. So

47:18

this is exactly why those would be in

47:20

the Pacific Northwest. And it would make sense.

47:22

It would be mitigation for the activities that

47:24

they're exerting on the East Coast. So

47:27

let's go back to, well,

47:29

not go back, but let's go to something here

47:31

that I should have probably started the conversation with.

47:34

Because anybody that

47:37

gets into a discussion of

47:39

weather modification or the weather

47:42

being controlled, one of the first

47:44

things they point to, if you're sitting at

47:46

a bar at the water cooler, it's

47:49

something along the lines of chemtrails

47:53

coming from airplanes. Right. I mean,

47:55

that's that's you can't talk about

47:57

weather modification. Without cloud seeding. Yeah. Without

47:59

that. Right. So I want you

48:01

to please explain the difference between a

48:03

con trail and a chem trail and

48:06

how prevalent is this? Because I hear from

48:08

people all the time They'll either tag me

48:10

on something on twitter or they'll send me

48:12

a message through the dms And

48:15

and it'll be a picture above their

48:17

neighborhood or something. Hey look, you know

48:19

what's happening Above us. I

48:22

don't know what i'm breathing, etc. Etc. Do you

48:24

have a take on that? Yeah,

48:26

so I get it all the time here in ohio

48:29

Some of them even look like grids, you know,

48:31

they're not They're not they're not

48:34

clouds. I'm sorry God

48:36

isn't playing tic tac toe with like

48:38

a million squares. Okay, it's obvious that

48:40

it's you know You

48:42

know done by human hand now

48:45

you don't know because see um

48:48

temperature modification uh

48:50

precipitation modification You

48:52

know and um atmospheric pressure modifications, you

48:54

know to change wind Are

48:57

all one in the same in regards

48:59

to method of distribution when using aerosols

49:01

or seating? Okay so

49:03

so you can't really identify unless you're

49:06

In the airplane and cooking up the chemicals

49:08

now There's a lot of people that find

49:10

that they spray things into the air that

49:13

could be causing them to get you know

49:15

I don't know. It's kind of like gay

49:17

frogs, but let's remember it wasn't gay

49:19

frogs It was trans frogs and a

49:22

stanford professor actually proved that they were

49:24

trans frogs. Okay. I'm just saying it's

49:26

not debunked It's they're not gay.

49:28

They're trans It's already getting

49:30

into it, but chemicals do affect us

49:32

and they do affect nature You know,

49:34

you've heard the term of acid rain

49:36

having traveled around the world. There are

49:38

times in certain countries You know that

49:41

are more in valleys and highly populated

49:43

that um, you know steer clear of

49:45

collecting water or taking your plants in

49:47

Because of the pollution in that you

49:49

know the way they are, you know

49:52

Um in their infrastructure is

49:54

it just traps everything to

49:56

move it out So it could be a

49:58

variety of things. You just don't know. You have

50:01

to then look at your state and see

50:03

what they paid for because every one of

50:05

your states have had conversations. I think I

50:07

sent you a link. Hey, here's Texas where

50:09

they're talking about whether modification

50:11

in their legislature. They talk about it,

50:13

but people don't pay attention. Right?

50:16

And that's because we're busy with other things

50:18

in life. This is why life is so

50:20

complicated now because if we're busy, they can

50:22

do whatever they want. And then if we

50:24

have a little bit of time, they'll just

50:26

make sure we're so confused. We don't know

50:28

which way we're going. That's where

50:30

I'm at. That's where I'm at. Okay. So we have

50:33

about 10 minutes left here. If

50:35

you have questions, I would ask that maybe in

50:37

the chat, you put like an all

50:39

caps question and put your question. We'll try to get

50:41

to as many as we can. And because

50:43

I like the way a Rockerel did this

50:45

question. And so how does this affect food

50:48

production and soil? I recall a video I

50:50

saw on the internet just a

50:52

few months back of a lady in

50:54

California. This was 20 years

50:56

ago. I think she was giving some

50:58

sort of testimony in front of the California legislature, if

51:01

I'm not mistaken. I forget where it was, but she

51:03

was talking about California and

51:05

how the soil samples clearly reflected something

51:07

wasn't right. How big

51:09

of a deal is this? Okay. So there

51:11

was an experiment done in Canada actually.

51:13

And I don't remember where I saw

51:16

it years ago. And I was like,

51:18

damn, where they were testing out how

51:20

they can introduce nutrients to animal farms.

51:23

So what they did was they had chicken

51:25

farms and they had chickens in one place,

51:27

all grass bed, both of them, both of

51:29

the lots. If I remember what one of

51:32

them was getting precipitation with specific chemicals to

51:34

enhance its

51:36

growth. Rather than give them the

51:39

chemicals, they would put

51:41

it to fall in their area. And

51:43

then depending on how much 25%, 50%.

51:47

So they saw that it was

51:49

better introduced into the chickens to

51:51

become fatter faster. If you

51:54

actually had it go through the natural process

51:56

of them utilizing the grass that's being grown

51:58

with that in in it, kind of like

52:01

hormones, I guess. It's not, but I'm just saying.

52:03

So that's another thing that could

52:05

be in the sky. Maybe

52:08

making our zombie deer,

52:10

the deer zombies, or

52:13

like sharks, and it was funny when President

52:15

Trump said it, because I had pointed it

52:17

out to everyone, it's really weird that sharks

52:19

are coming out to shore and biting people

52:21

and acting crazy. That

52:24

could also be an issue. And

52:26

that can also introduce changes

52:29

within your plant life. So if you're a

52:31

gardener and you have rainwater, that

52:34

may be modified through aerosols

52:37

or seeding methods. Okay,

52:44

does CERN play

52:46

a part in this question from

52:49

Werner Rodriguez, does CERN affect

52:51

weather? Anything with

52:53

CERN? Like any of the experimentations

52:55

that they do? I

52:58

don't know, I need to do a whole show on CERN, I think. Well,

53:00

if you're gonna do CERN, I would highly suggest

53:02

you start with Sesame. With

53:05

who? Sesame is a

53:07

better CERN than CERN. Sesame

53:09

is down in Georgia. I've never heard of this. Yeah,

53:12

it's on your ground, that

53:14

one. You open Sesame, once

53:16

you open Sesame, CERN, you'll see,

53:19

is another, I've been to CERN twice in my life.

53:21

Actually got one of my children to push the

53:23

button when they were testing. So

53:25

I can tell you that CERN is great,

53:28

but Sesame is where it's on. Sesame is

53:30

where it's on. Okay, interesting. Now, there's another one

53:32

here. This is another, just

53:35

like I said, you can't have a weather

53:38

being controlled discussion without

53:40

talking about chemtrails. You

53:43

can't have a weather discussion without

53:46

bringing in this name. I appreciate this

53:48

one from Hurdling Over New States. Oh,

53:50

yes, yes. There's no gates to this

53:52

conversation, absolutely. Well, you know

53:54

what's funny? Let's just draw a little bit

53:57

of information here. Like I said,

53:59

the first weather. modification company was where?

54:01

In North Dakota. In the 70s

54:03

it was built, right? It's literally

54:06

called Weather Modification, Inc. And it

54:08

flanks the airport in North Dakota.

54:10

Now, get this. North Dakota, their

54:12

governor right now, Burgum, he's actually

54:14

partners with Bill Gates, right?

54:16

I know. I know this. Yes. Wait,

54:19

wait, wait. It gets better. I know. That's

54:21

why I'm nervous about Trump picking him for VP,

54:23

but continue. He's not insane. And whatever

54:25

he does is highly calculated. So

54:27

I'll stick with that, because there's

54:29

always room for mitigation. That's

54:32

crazy. He's the one that invented the contact

54:34

tracing app. People forget that. And

54:36

the QR codes for your fucking COVID stuff. So I don't

54:38

even want to... I'm sorry, I curse. I don't even want

54:41

to get into why. I wanted to point something out. So

54:44

Bill Gates is the one that has been purchasing a lot of the

54:47

property down in North Dakota, along with

54:49

the Chinese. Just like Doug Burgum, before he became

54:51

governor, he had gotten a big fat loan from

54:53

the Chinese to buy literally half the city of

54:55

Fargo. The way he funded it was through

54:57

Chinese money. Now, here's

55:00

where we go. The reason that they

55:02

buy this farmland and a lot of people, they're

55:04

just buying it up so we can't eat. No,

55:06

it's because they're conducting experiments. And weather modification

55:08

actually has a lot of contracts

55:10

with them. In fact, it was

55:12

in 2018, I think, that I

55:14

used a segue. Irregular warfare

55:17

requires irregular strategies, doesn't it?

55:19

Rather than me target them for what

55:22

they were doing on the farmland. I

55:24

targeted a plane that was used for

55:26

the manipulation of the atmosphere in that

55:28

area and said he hasn't paid his

55:30

taxes. I'm going to tell

55:32

you, people that were in that office, in the aviation

55:34

office, because they sent it to the tax commissioner, hey,

55:37

this airplane here hasn't paid taxes in forever. Is he

55:39

like your friend or something? Why is he getting a

55:41

pass? They started paper shredding. Because

55:43

the key point here for me was that

55:45

they were colluding with the Chinese in regards

55:48

to spraying that local area.

55:50

And that was the company that was

55:53

hired to do it. So

55:56

Bill Gates, very big part of it. All

55:59

of us may think it's because He

56:01

doesn't need farmland to print your food. We're going to be

56:03

like the Jetsons soon. That's

56:06

another thing because there's a lot of people putting theories

56:08

that the chemtrails are the reason our avocados are bendy

56:10

or the watermelons. I don't know if you've seen it.

56:13

It's like people are not- Yeah, I got one downstairs.

56:15

I've got one of those downstairs. I mean, it's no real. It's

56:18

3D printed fruit, guys. It's not

56:20

real. The thing is,

56:22

people don't seem to understand that this is

56:24

a reality and they were actually testing the

56:26

products years ago. I have

56:29

been stressing, hey, you're going to be printing

56:31

your medicine from your house in a printer

56:33

with organics. These are, what is it, slow

56:36

release, nutrient deficient, whatever. They're

56:38

all 3D printed. You

56:41

could shout from the mountaintops because I remember when I

56:43

got mine and I contacted the company for the watermelon.

56:45

This is like, I think, 2018. They

56:48

said, oh, it's probably because you're in North Dakota

56:50

right now and it's really cold right now. It

56:53

might have changed. People's like, okay,

56:56

they don't realize they're speaking to molecular and

56:58

cellular biologists and someone that's actually smart. I'm

57:00

just going to sit there and be like,

57:02

okay, tell me how this works with the

57:04

temperature. I actually tried

57:06

to replicate that, the whole temperature thing. Didn't

57:08

work. Then I analyzed it and

57:10

indeed it was. Inorganic materials being

57:12

used as organic. Well, they're actually organic

57:14

materials, but they have inorganic buffers. I

57:16

urge people rather than take my

57:19

word for it, you can test it out yourself. You

57:21

could go pay for a laboratory to do it. It'll

57:23

cost you a couple hundred bucks, but you'll get it

57:25

done and you'll have a lawsuit ready like the lady

57:27

at Subway with the tuna fish sandwich. She checked it

57:29

for tuna. They don't use tuna in tuna fish,

57:31

by the way. Oh, here

57:33

we go. This is another show. Yeah.

57:37

Okay, so in

57:40

the few minutes that we have

57:42

left here, is there anything

57:44

that you want to make sure

57:46

that everyone hears? Final

57:49

thought here as

57:52

it relates to weather manipulation? Well,

57:54

we can't do much. The genie's already

57:56

out of the bottle and we've already caused damage. What we

57:58

can do is reduce the damage. by disallowing such

58:00

disruptions, even though it would save things. I mean,

58:02

you know, a lot of people will say, well,

58:05

if we can save the White House from a

58:07

devastating hurricane, don't you want to use the technology

58:09

and do it? And say no, because

58:11

then that'll be a repercussion for another time. It's

58:14

like feeding the alligator, hoping it'll eat you last.

58:16

Now, as a people, the only thing we can

58:18

do is actually push on

58:20

our local level, you know, our states

58:22

to disallow the use of

58:24

such things, right, and advocate that they don't

58:26

use them, even if there's droughts, we'll just

58:29

pick up and move. That's what society and

58:32

human kind has been doing for ages. They

58:34

would migrate when things were not good. If

58:37

it becomes a desert, you pick up and you go

58:39

to where there's grass. Like, we just have to, you

58:41

know, work in concert with the planet, not

58:43

against it or try to manipulate it, because sometimes

58:46

you'll manipulate something so bad, you'll be botched, just

58:48

like those women that do the fillers and the

58:50

Botox. At some point, they're so far gone that

58:52

they don't even know what they look like anymore.

58:55

You know, and this is exactly what we're doing.

58:57

I mean, this is exactly what we're doing right

58:59

now, right? So I urge everyone to, you know,

59:01

do the things you can and release

59:03

the rest of God for the things that you can't

59:05

do, right, and control. But the one thing you can

59:07

control is to make sure that your voice is heard.

59:10

Put it in writing, send it to your

59:12

local legislators, your congressmen, and say, I'm

59:14

extremely concerned about this. You know,

59:16

nobody really wants to talk about it. I

59:18

am, you know, I do not consent. And

59:20

just do what you can. And I'm sure

59:23

at some point, it'll be addressed. And

59:26

I want to throw

59:28

that website out there.

59:31

You mentioned usaspending.gov, correct?

59:34

It's my favorite website. That's how I

59:37

found that our congressional knowledge database

59:39

was in Germany. I

59:42

mean, why not have congressional communication that's

59:44

in Germany? All right,

59:46

see, there's all these extra show ideas

59:48

that you're giving me. You should watch, well,

59:50

it's in that documentary, Shadowgate. And I was

59:52

the one that found that because I knew

59:55

that we were doing it. So I'm just

59:57

saying, in that website, you can find everything.

1:00:00

See if people really wanted to investigate the

1:00:02

Maui lasers, they wouldn't want there. Okay.

1:00:05

All right. I can't I

1:00:07

got so much research I got to do now and

1:00:09

also you make a good point keep an eye on

1:00:11

your state Legislatures as well and see what they are

1:00:14

doing Yeah, they passed that

1:00:16

law that says that they can what make

1:00:18

us fertilizer now remember and everyone was

1:00:20

like no it's not now It's like super

1:00:22

majority. I guess humans are now fertilizer.

1:00:25

Welcome. We've got 3d printed meat 3d

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1:00:33

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1:01:02

it's about weather or something else Okay, next

1:01:04

time I'm in your neck of the words.

1:01:06

We're breaking a bread and whatever you need

1:01:08

information or anything That's what we should

1:01:10

be doing Collaborating sharing it and just sharing the knowledge

1:01:12

to the people so that they can make sound Decisions

1:01:16

and when they do vote when they can vote That's

1:01:22

a great team David if you're having that conversation Okay,

1:01:33

so and yeah She was referring to our

1:01:35

votes and we're gonna talk about all the

1:01:37

ways your vote is at risk July

1:01:40

4th a week from today at 2 p.m.

1:01:42

Eastern. You will want to be a part

1:01:44

of that conversation because There's

1:01:46

a lot of information in that and it's

1:01:49

it's gonna be it's gonna be a tough pill to

1:01:51

swallow. I think Okay, so let

1:01:53

me get to my friend

1:01:55

the I'm gonna call you chief meteorologist

1:01:58

at weather bell calm Joe

1:02:00

Bastardi, I wanted to have

1:02:03

someone on to give

1:02:06

the perspective that no,

1:02:09

the weather is not being manipulated, it's

1:02:11

not being controlled. You

1:02:13

came to mind. I was so pleased when

1:02:15

you said, yeah, I absolutely can make that

1:02:18

argument. And so welcome, I

1:02:20

appreciate you coming by, man. Thank you. Well,

1:02:22

it's always a pleasure talking to Keith is,

1:02:24

you know, it's kind of funny

1:02:26

because the last time I

1:02:28

was down there, you know, I was hanging out

1:02:30

with Stu and some people went

1:02:33

after me because of the geothermal

1:02:37

input idea, the geothermal input into

1:02:39

the ocean, which is definitely occurring

1:02:41

and is definitely swept under the

1:02:43

rug. Explain that. Explain that. Well,

1:02:47

it's what's

1:02:49

going on is since the late 1980s, there's

1:02:52

been a big increase in

1:02:54

geothermal input into the oceans. We

1:02:56

have 10 million hydrothermal vents that

1:03:00

when they become very, very active, they add heat

1:03:02

to the ocean. And there's

1:03:04

no way that you could have the sudden

1:03:06

warming of the ocean with these

1:03:08

underwater heat waves being

1:03:10

caused by an atmospheric

1:03:12

phenomena, whether it's manmade or

1:03:15

not. And I

1:03:17

began to grow real suspicious watching

1:03:20

the ocean warm the way it was

1:03:22

warming. And you

1:03:25

got to understand the oceans have 99 percent

1:03:27

of the heat capacity in the

1:03:30

atmosphere. So what happens is you

1:03:32

have solar. We have something

1:03:34

going on with solar cycles in the alignment of the

1:03:36

sun with Jupiter. And this happens

1:03:38

every 60, 70 years, which

1:03:40

apparently puts undue stress on

1:03:43

the on the what we call the

1:03:45

exosphere, which is the core of the

1:03:47

Earth, which is known to be rotating. This

1:03:51

is the molten core in the Earth. And

1:03:53

when it rotates, there's extra stress on

1:03:55

the bottom of the ocean floor. And

1:03:57

boom, up comes all these hydrothermal vents.

1:04:00

and it's interesting, people say, well, where's

1:04:02

your proof? And I said, well, where's

1:04:04

your proof? It's not, we only have

1:04:06

6,000 data boys out in

1:04:11

the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean. And

1:04:13

they only go down to 6,000 feet and

1:04:15

there's only one of them for every 112,000 square miles. So

1:04:19

how the heck are they able to detect it? What

1:04:22

you see is you see it detected when

1:04:24

it happens. It takes a while,

1:04:26

but we saw a classic example

1:04:30

off Australia this winter and it destroyed

1:04:32

the cold for the American winter.

1:04:34

How did it do that? Well, the ocean

1:04:36

suddenly warmed east of Australia.

1:04:38

This is the exact opposite thing you

1:04:40

should see during El Nino. During

1:04:43

an El Nino, the ocean should

1:04:45

be quite cool east of Australia.

1:04:47

When that happened, it changed the

1:04:49

atmospheric reaction, what we call the

1:04:51

Matt and Julian oscillation, went into

1:04:53

unfavorable phases for cold and stormy

1:04:56

in the United States, which none of

1:04:58

the computer models saw. So

1:05:01

you had a hack, you have these

1:05:03

happenings that are occurring because we

1:05:05

don't have the data input coming from

1:05:07

the oceans. So what

1:05:10

happens is this would naturally

1:05:12

blow the entire WEF, VSG,

1:05:15

missive out of the water. So I'm

1:05:17

a conspiracy theorist, that's what happened. So,

1:05:21

if I have this wrong. I

1:05:25

posted on Twitter hundreds of times.

1:05:27

I don't understand how meteorologists can

1:05:30

because a meteorologist understands there's a

1:05:32

direct correlation to water vapor and

1:05:35

temperature. No such thing

1:05:37

exists for CO2 and temperature. So

1:05:39

it's naturally water vapor that would warm

1:05:42

the atmosphere and the properties of water

1:05:44

vapor. What's the number one source of

1:05:46

water vapor? The oceans, if the oceans

1:05:48

warm, the air is going to warm.

1:05:50

The game set match, the air only

1:05:53

contains 1% of

1:05:55

the entire thermal energy of the

1:05:57

system of that 0.042%. CO2

1:06:00

of that only 5% is contributed by man, only 1%

1:06:02

of that is contributed by the United States.

1:06:08

So let's just blow up the

1:06:10

entire economy over this whole thing.

1:06:12

Besides, most people don't understand how

1:06:15

CO2 adds to warming. People

1:06:17

are also heat-trapping gas. No it's not. What

1:06:20

it has is it has these

1:06:22

bands that absorb outgoing long wave

1:06:24

radiation. They don't absorb

1:06:26

incoming radiation from the sun. So

1:06:29

the only way for CO2 to

1:06:31

work is for the oceans to

1:06:33

warm up. The oceans warm up.

1:06:36

There's more outgoing long wave radiation.

1:06:38

We know that a heated body

1:06:40

has more outgoing long wave radiation.

1:06:42

And those bands have been saturated since

1:06:45

1951. So

1:06:48

see, and this is a problem.

1:06:50

They only penetrate the top millimeter

1:06:52

of the ocean. So how the

1:06:55

heck are those bands, that radiation,

1:06:57

warming the ocean? Let

1:06:59

me ask you a question. If you

1:07:01

were to heat a pot of water, would

1:07:04

you use a sun lamp, a blow dryer,

1:07:06

or would you rather see it heated

1:07:09

from the stove? Which one

1:07:11

would you rather do? So if you have an

1:07:13

underwater source and

1:07:15

what the IPCC has done is

1:07:18

it's swept it under the rug, even

1:07:20

though the man-made input is only

1:07:22

a third order derivative of what

1:07:24

drives the climate and a distant

1:07:26

one at that. There's solar, large

1:07:28

scale solar events. And

1:07:30

then there's the reactions

1:07:33

in the ocean that are

1:07:35

causing a lot of this stuff. So

1:07:38

if you can hide that, if

1:07:40

you could hide the fact that solar and

1:07:42

geothermal are doing it and just simply dismiss

1:07:44

it, it's sort of like trying to have

1:07:46

an election and you have no candidates running

1:07:49

against you, you're bound to win. I

1:07:52

call it Hunter Biden laptop meteorology. They

1:07:54

said, oh, it's true. I've written on

1:07:56

the fact that you go back and

1:07:58

look. It's absolutely true. And so

1:08:00

what will happen is if it comes out

1:08:03

that I'm right in five six years, it'll be too

1:08:05

late by that time I mean,

1:08:07

you know hunter Biden's laptop comes out

1:08:09

too late. Joe Biden's been preparing for

1:08:11

four years. All right, Hillary's dossier Okay,

1:08:13

that comes out cold it that comes

1:08:15

out too late And what will happen

1:08:17

is it'll be too late by that

1:08:19

time the new Green Deal or whatever

1:08:21

the heck they call Okay,

1:08:23

but before we get too far away, where

1:08:25

can people find all of your articles? I

1:08:28

know You're at Big Joe

1:08:30

pastardi and then also give the website

1:08:32

Yeah But I'm shadow band on Twitter

1:08:34

and I know that for a fact

1:08:36

that's not a conspiracy because a lot

1:08:38

of the fellow Climate guys that follow

1:08:40

me say hey, I haven't seen this

1:08:42

sweet. Yeah, we've had a hurricane forecast

1:08:44

out since December 7th I've

1:08:47

put it on Twitter over a thousand times

1:08:49

and so people people email me and go

1:08:51

Hey, what do you think of the hurricane

1:08:53

forecast that Noah puts out? I go where

1:08:56

they put out the same forecast we did

1:08:58

six months before so so, you know That's

1:09:01

that's something cool. That's something

1:09:03

that's going on weatherbell.com is

1:09:05

my company and look I'm a private meteorologist

1:09:08

which means that I have to hit

1:09:10

the forecast for people to buy our

1:09:13

service the National Weather Service is outstanding

1:09:16

but we we live in the crucible of

1:09:18

competition in the private sector and People

1:09:21

are competing for a shrinking amount of

1:09:23

money and you could get the forecast

1:09:25

for free Why pay me unless I'm

1:09:28

right enough to make you money. And

1:09:30

so that's is it is it

1:09:32

in my head that? meteorologists

1:09:35

are not nearly as accurate as

1:09:37

they were with Less

1:09:40

technology than they when they have now. No,

1:09:43

I don't think that's correct I think that

1:09:45

the what happens is that the field has

1:09:47

changed enough So most people when they think

1:09:50

of a meteorologist they think of someone on

1:09:52

the weather channel or local TV station You

1:09:55

know, I might I must have been blessed.

1:09:57

I am blessed. I can't say it must

1:09:59

have been blessed in that

1:10:01

I'm 68, I'm the oldest private

1:10:03

forecaster on a global network

1:10:05

out there. Me and my partner, Joe DeLeo, and

1:10:08

I'm not slowing down as far as that

1:10:10

stuff goes. But what I was gonna say

1:10:12

is I have a podcast called The American

1:10:14

Storm. I'm at Big Joe Bistardi, I

1:10:17

have two books out there. And

1:10:20

again, when you observe, see, here's

1:10:22

the thing, Keith, I forecast every

1:10:24

day globally. I have produced

1:10:26

products since March 1st, 2011, when

1:10:30

I joined WeatherBell. Every single

1:10:32

day I have produced products since then.

1:10:34

I don't take days off. If I'm

1:10:36

on so-called vacation, like when I came

1:10:38

down and visited you guys down there,

1:10:41

I was on, quote, vacation,

1:10:43

but I was working eight hours a

1:10:45

day. I don't take any time off.

1:10:47

The weather is an infinite opponent.

1:10:49

It does not stop. It's sort of

1:10:51

like Rocky Balboa, it'll beat you down

1:10:53

and keep you there, and

1:10:56

you gotta get back up again.

1:10:58

So I basically have realized that

1:11:01

the only way for me to keep up with the

1:11:03

weather is to try to forecast every day. And

1:11:06

the best you could get with the weather is

1:11:08

a tie. So

1:11:11

what happens is you observe things

1:11:13

that people that don't do this,

1:11:16

that let's say you're a climate researcher. Well,

1:11:18

you're not forecasting the weather every day, and

1:11:20

you never think you're wrong. The

1:11:22

weather teaches me, the greatest thing about the

1:11:25

weather is it teaches humility. It

1:11:27

teaches you the majesty of the atmosphere,

1:11:29

which gets into the second point about

1:11:31

why I don't believe in weather

1:11:33

modification at a large scale. Now, I'm the

1:11:35

biggest proponent of trying to seed hurricanes as

1:11:37

they come to the coast. I

1:11:40

think we should be blasting those things

1:11:42

with silver iodide and try to disrupt

1:11:44

the eyewall processes as a

1:11:46

strong hurricane is coming to the coast.

1:11:48

And people don't wanna do that. And

1:11:50

sometimes I think they don't wanna do

1:11:53

it because if it works, it will

1:11:55

then mitigate the whole, oh, it's worse

1:11:57

than ever idea with

1:11:59

a hurricane. But, you know, this

1:12:02

weather modification has had a long and storied

1:12:04

history. It began, and believe it or not,

1:12:06

1963 is the first time I ever heard

1:12:08

of it. I was only eight years old,

1:12:11

but Fidel Castro was

1:12:13

blaming the United States for

1:12:16

stalling hurricane Flora over his

1:12:18

island in retaliation for the

1:12:20

Bay of Pigs. And what

1:12:22

happened was Castro claimed that we

1:12:25

stalled the storm to destroy Cuba.

1:12:28

So if you want to know where

1:12:30

the roots of this are, that's the

1:12:32

first roots with someone

1:12:34

in the New York Times wound up admiring

1:12:37

none other than Fidel Castro down there in

1:12:39

Cuba. But people are always saying that, for

1:12:41

instance, the contrails you

1:12:43

see when there's excess

1:12:46

moisture at that level, just

1:12:48

a little bit of extra moisture. It doesn't take

1:12:50

a lot. When it's very, very cold, it

1:12:53

takes only minute amounts of

1:12:55

moisture with some upward motion.

1:12:59

And sometimes in the stratosphere, you get that.

1:13:01

So the days you see a plane go

1:13:03

by, hey, no contrails, no camp trails, no

1:13:05

nothing. And then there are days you say,

1:13:08

what the heck's going on? Looks like a

1:13:10

tic-tac-toe game up in the sky. Well,

1:13:12

it depends on what's going on with the weather.

1:13:15

And nobody is modifying it. You can't

1:13:17

listen. Here's a thing

1:13:20

to understand that even if

1:13:22

it was being modified, I mean,

1:13:24

you can line up any single event and try

1:13:26

to make something out of it. We know how

1:13:28

that works, OK? I mean,

1:13:30

a butterfly flaps its wings in a pile.

1:13:33

And we have a hurricane on the East

1:13:35

Coast two months later or something. Someone says

1:13:38

that tried to start it. But the

1:13:40

atmosphere is so majestic and

1:13:42

changing all the time. It

1:13:45

is so chaotic that it

1:13:47

is impossible to draw a conclusion. Just

1:13:50

like it's impossible to draw a

1:13:52

conclusion, that CO2 is leading to

1:13:54

the warming now, especially since we've

1:13:56

been warmer in other times in

1:13:58

this planet's history. And what we

1:14:00

are in now, by the way, is

1:14:03

a climate optimum. Now, do I dismiss

1:14:05

what Tor said? No, of course not,

1:14:07

because she's obviously researched it. She could

1:14:10

be right. I'm not God, all right?

1:14:12

And that's what the weather teaches you,

1:14:14

that you may be wrong sometimes. Let

1:14:18

me, I wanna throw something up here real

1:14:20

quick and just get your take on this,

1:14:22

because you just mentioned contrails and chemtrails and

1:14:24

all that stuff. I'm gonna put up a

1:14:26

tweet from Congressman Thomas Massey that

1:14:29

I shared with her. Yeah, I

1:14:32

thought that when I put these up there, I thought,

1:14:34

I bet Joe's got a name for all of these

1:14:36

kinds of clouds, nothing unusual there. What are we looking

1:14:38

at, Nees? You're serious? I mean,

1:14:40

what happens is you put extra water vapor in the

1:14:42

air and you have the right amount of upward motion,

1:14:45

but extra water vapor, we're talking, it's

1:14:47

so cold up there, you don't need

1:14:50

much, okay? So

1:14:53

what happens is you probably add jets going

1:14:55

through there and you probably have certain kind

1:14:58

of waves going through there

1:15:00

and make these cloud formations, but ice

1:15:02

crystal clouds are very easy to form

1:15:04

and they're very easy to dissipate. So

1:15:07

probably two hours later, they weren't even around,

1:15:09

right? So what happened to them? What's happening

1:15:11

here? What's happening right there? Any idea that

1:15:14

big halo above those mountains? We

1:15:16

always have that, we always have it,

1:15:18

from when I was a kid, I used to

1:15:20

get Weatherwise magazine and they had

1:15:23

this great article, hole

1:15:27

in the cloud, a meteorological who done

1:15:29

it. And it was a much more

1:15:32

pronounced thing and that was literally a

1:15:34

perfectly circular hole, but it's probably like

1:15:36

crop circles. You want me to explain

1:15:39

why that's a circle like that? I

1:15:41

can't explain it. Maybe

1:15:43

a plane was going around

1:15:46

in circles and left the contrail there, I'm not

1:15:48

sure. But here's a thing I wanna tell you.

1:15:53

A lot of people don't watch

1:15:55

the atmosphere until something happens. If

1:15:57

you watch the atmosphere all the time.

1:16:00

there's nothing new under the sun.

1:16:03

So what happens is someone puts a picture out, have

1:16:05

you ever seen that? Well, not in

1:16:07

that particular case, but I've seen

1:16:09

some amazing shows in the sky

1:16:11

because I love looking at the

1:16:13

sky and looking at the weather.

1:16:15

So if you have another shot,

1:16:17

I mean, we've had cloud formations

1:16:19

that look like Godzilla. I

1:16:21

mean, what caused that? The Japanese

1:16:24

are playing around with the clouds. No,

1:16:26

it's just, it's

1:16:28

the way the atmosphere works. Well, this is gonna be

1:16:30

a good segue to what you just said. I

1:16:34

think this is a good question. I don't have

1:16:37

the answer. I wanna put this on the screen

1:16:39

here. Kendall Wood asks or mentions, no grids in

1:16:41

the sky in the 1970s. I

1:16:45

was very young in the 1970s, so I don't

1:16:47

recall. Do you

1:16:49

recall how far back these

1:16:52

grids in the sky have been

1:16:54

around? I don't know what you're referencing.

1:16:56

I've never heard that term, grids in

1:16:58

the sky. I think this is

1:17:00

a reference to seeing the trails

1:17:02

up there above you. No,

1:17:05

that's not true. That's not true.

1:17:07

That's not true at all. I can remember

1:17:09

Saturday mornings in 1966, we

1:17:12

had a snowstorm every weekend coming up the East

1:17:15

Coast. And my dad and I would go out,

1:17:17

walk the golf course in Summers Point, New Jersey,

1:17:19

and the Cirrus deck would be coming in, but

1:17:21

there are hundreds of contrails in the air. Why?

1:17:25

Because there was a lot of moisture spreading out

1:17:27

in front of the storm into the upper levels.

1:17:29

Yeah, that's not true at all. If

1:17:32

grids are contrails, they've

1:17:34

been around since airplanes, and

1:17:36

I have to disagree with

1:17:38

that person. At least, again,

1:17:41

maybe he wasn't looking up in the sky

1:17:43

in the 1970s, but of course they were there.

1:17:46

Yeah, what do you say? And you know

1:17:48

what's really crazy about contrails? What's

1:17:50

really fun is when the Cirrus, that

1:17:53

first deck of Cirrus comes out, Richardson's

1:17:56

rule, 18 hours before the start of

1:17:58

the storm, the Cirrus deck. starts

1:18:00

coming in, right? So what happens is

1:18:02

you'll get contrails there and you'll see

1:18:04

their shadows in the clouds. So you

1:18:07

see a

1:18:09

white contrail and then a black shadow on

1:18:11

the cloud from the contrail. That's I mean,

1:18:13

you I've ever that was one of my

1:18:15

favorite things to do. You know, there's long

1:18:17

war. My dad was a meteorologist too. And

1:18:20

he explained what was going on. I was

1:18:22

taught in the 50s and 60s in

1:18:24

college. Okay, let

1:18:27

me put some other things up that

1:18:29

I had. Tori, comment on let's go

1:18:31

to Texas a couple weeks back into

1:18:33

thin air posted this, this strange looking

1:18:36

to me looks like an anomaly on

1:18:38

radar, maybe to your physiological eye, you

1:18:41

see something differently. Can you

1:18:43

discuss what we've been going through here

1:18:45

in Texas as far as the unrelenting storms

1:18:47

in in what looks to be weird

1:18:50

stuff going on radar? Anything stand up to you there

1:18:52

at all? What it's

1:18:55

it's, you know, we have

1:18:57

something on radar called ground clutter. And

1:18:59

apparently there was some kind of

1:19:01

refraction. There was a refraction of

1:19:04

the by

1:19:06

the way, I'm sorry, I was waving there someone came in and

1:19:08

just saying hello. So I didn't want to. Okay, that's fine. That's

1:19:10

fine. There was

1:19:12

some kind of refraction of the

1:19:14

of the radar wave, probably

1:19:16

into the ground. It looks like it may

1:19:19

have been associated with some kind of gust

1:19:21

front is still spread out in there. But

1:19:24

once that whatever caused that to

1:19:27

disappear, it disappears. So I

1:19:29

mean, the best way

1:19:31

to test it is go to where that

1:19:33

happened and look the next day and say,

1:19:36

well, did anything happen under there? Did

1:19:38

anybody see anything under there? No. So you

1:19:40

see that you see that every once in

1:19:42

a while, that you'll

1:19:44

you'll get the effect. We're having a problem

1:19:46

right now with what we call mad and

1:19:49

julian outgoing long wave radiation.

1:19:52

The what we use

1:19:54

to determine that every day, it

1:19:57

looks like someone's painting a blue pink bomb over the

1:19:59

Indian Ocean. It's not there. So

1:20:01

what's and we had another

1:20:03

not a guy go crazy over war

1:20:06

the ocean warmed off South

1:20:08

Africa and then it disappeared suddenly and

1:20:10

you know when you see something just

1:20:13

show up like that Generally,

1:20:15

it's an anomaly and you simply have to

1:20:17

go talk to the people at the radar

1:20:19

site and ask them What the heck happened?

1:20:21

All right, now they'll give you the answer

1:20:23

I'm not the guy that gives you answer

1:20:25

But when you're when you're dealing with these

1:20:27

things you gotta understand if the rate if

1:20:29

something calls the right now Maybe there was

1:20:32

you know Someone the magic co2

1:20:34

fairy calls the radar attenuation to

1:20:36

get bounced into the ground. Okay.

1:20:38

All right, very good Let

1:20:41

me put up just a few more radar

1:20:43

loops for you. These are all from Oklahoma

1:20:45

These are three different tornadoes that we're seeing.

1:20:48

I believe a couple were from April of 2023 one

1:20:51

was from April 2024 and the

1:20:55

thing that stood out to me on these and

1:20:57

again the people that posted these did not suggest

1:20:59

that the weather was being Manipulated at all. I

1:21:01

just discovered these and just bookmarked them

1:21:04

for this conversation today and And

1:21:06

I'm just saying Why

1:21:08

how okay, let me ask you this Because

1:21:11

you come from the perspective that the weather

1:21:14

is not being manipulated on this on this

1:21:16

scale. So how Regular

1:21:19

of an occurrence is it for a

1:21:21

storm to? Backtrack

1:21:25

move from east back to the

1:21:27

west. How often does that happen?

1:21:29

Joe? Well when you have strong cyclo cycles

1:21:33

Cyclonic circulations for instance, we see that in

1:21:35

hurricanes all the time. They're moving north at

1:21:37

15 But they're moving north

1:21:40

in loops. All right cycloidal

1:21:42

loops So whenever you have something that's

1:21:44

encountering friction on the

1:21:46

ground and different vertical Velocity situations

1:21:48

and development it's in a development

1:21:51

stage or a maturing stage or

1:21:53

even sometimes a decaying stage All

1:21:56

these things. Let's see the tornado is going to

1:21:58

try to go where the

1:22:01

atmosphere is most ripe for the tornado.

1:22:03

So if you have this

1:22:05

circulating system and sometimes in

1:22:07

multiple vortices anyway, and

1:22:10

they're fighting and one will take

1:22:12

over and then will forfeit and

1:22:14

another one will take over. And

1:22:16

so you get this kind of

1:22:18

presentation. Anything that is rotating that

1:22:20

fast is liable to, if

1:22:23

there's anything that is resisting it,

1:22:25

is liable to find

1:22:27

the path of least resistance.

1:22:30

And it's also because of, even

1:22:33

though everybody thinks the tornado is a

1:22:35

perfect circle, it's not. So

1:22:38

what happens is it may lean one way,

1:22:40

lean another way. And the

1:22:42

general movement of the tornado is Northeast.

1:22:45

And then every once in a while,

1:22:47

you may see it back, drop

1:22:50

back. It's why

1:22:52

it's so dangerous to chase,

1:22:55

I was out chasing tornadoes, I

1:22:57

think, what was it? May 27th. In

1:23:00

fact, I was texting you while I was chasing

1:23:03

my son. And there

1:23:05

are people that really don't know what

1:23:08

they're doing out there. And they're all

1:23:10

following Reed Timmer, who's the big chief

1:23:12

tornado chaser in the world. And

1:23:14

I'm out of these cow, you

1:23:16

know, ranch farm, what do you call

1:23:18

them? Ranch to market in West Texas,

1:23:21

they're farm to market in East Texas.

1:23:23

And it's just lines of traffic, like

1:23:25

I'm stuck in Houston or something, because

1:23:27

of people trying to chase tornadoes. And

1:23:30

they don't know sometimes that, you know,

1:23:32

oh, the tornado is a

1:23:34

mile to the north of me. And then

1:23:36

bang, all of a sudden, it'll loop right

1:23:38

back down towards you. All right, because if

1:23:41

you ever look at a developing tornado

1:23:43

and even the mature ones, there's always

1:23:45

something going on around the

1:23:48

side of the tornado. All right,

1:23:50

that may force the tornado to

1:23:52

suddenly lift up in one place

1:23:54

and come down in another. So

1:23:56

this is something that, yeah,

1:23:58

I don't think it... It's a

1:24:02

constant occurrence, but I think you're gonna

1:24:04

see it. And more often than not,

1:24:06

the tornado just doesn't move in a

1:24:08

straight line. And the rule is,

1:24:10

if you see a tornado, it's not

1:24:13

moving, but it's getting bigger, it's coming

1:24:15

at you. It's not moving, it's getting

1:24:17

smaller, it's moving away from you. If

1:24:19

you can see it, if it's moving

1:24:21

in no direction toward you, either east

1:24:23

or west to the northeast or something

1:24:25

like that. But no, there's no... I

1:24:29

do know that they try to

1:24:31

shoot these weather observation balls

1:24:34

or whatever into the

1:24:36

tornadoes, but that's not modifying the tornadoes.

1:24:39

Okay. So let

1:24:42

me ask you this, from

1:24:44

where you sit. By the way, there is

1:24:46

one hideous weather mafia. It is

1:24:48

what Gates is about to do. Someone

1:24:51

should stop them. Someone should stop them because

1:24:53

you want to put that stuff in the

1:24:55

air? All right, smart guy, what if two

1:24:57

volcanoes go off? In the tropics, I'm not

1:25:00

talking about hunger, I'm talking about like Pinatubo

1:25:02

and Krakatoa. Guess what? You're gonna be paying

1:25:04

a price real, real quick as far as

1:25:06

a global temperature drop goes. Remember, it is...

1:25:09

Explain what you're referring to with Bill Gates

1:25:11

in there. Well, Bill Gates has got this

1:25:13

proposal. Well, Tor was talking about it. To

1:25:17

put sulfur... Why would you want

1:25:19

to put sulfur dioxide anywhere into

1:25:21

the atmosphere? See, that's what drives

1:25:23

me crazy about these people. They

1:25:25

call carbon dioxide a pollutant. Yet

1:25:27

without carbon dioxide, no life lives.

1:25:29

That's it. And we've been in

1:25:31

a carbon dioxide drought. Okay. The

1:25:34

average... The best level of

1:25:36

carbon dioxide for the synergism between man and

1:25:38

plant is around a thousand parts per million.

1:25:40

Where 420 parts per million, at 250, plant

1:25:42

life starts to die. It's

1:25:49

hard to eat plants when they're dying,

1:25:51

right? So you can't grow food. All

1:25:54

right. So what happens is

1:25:57

you exhale a hundred times more

1:25:59

carbon dioxide you inhale. And guess

1:26:01

what? Trees take that

1:26:03

and they put oxygen back

1:26:06

into the atmosphere. Every tree gets rid

1:26:08

of 50 pounds of carbon dioxide. And

1:26:10

most states in the United States are

1:26:14

carbon negative. Their emissions don't exceed

1:26:16

what the trees take out of

1:26:18

the atmosphere. So carbon dioxide is

1:26:20

natural. It's almost as if God

1:26:22

had a plan to create synergism

1:26:25

between man and animal. How about

1:26:27

that? All right. Now that really

1:26:29

gets people mad because it means,

1:26:31

well, that guy believes in intelligent

1:26:33

design. He's not into science. Okay.

1:26:36

So for sulfur dioxide, we've

1:26:38

worked to get it out of the atmosphere.

1:26:40

The reason why it's got part of the

1:26:42

reason it's hotter in the West is we've

1:26:44

cleaned the air up. It's

1:26:47

not as bad. It is a way

1:26:49

Los Angeles smog days away down. The

1:26:51

sun is much brighter in the Western

1:26:53

part of the United States than it

1:26:55

was in the sixties. We have a

1:26:57

problem in Texas because they keep clear

1:27:00

cutting and burning down in Mexico and

1:27:02

Guatemala. And that's what you see in

1:27:04

Texas. All that disgusting haze. That wasn't

1:27:06

there when I was a kid in

1:27:08

the sixties, but that's not being produced.

1:27:10

That's not being produced by the United States.

1:27:13

The smog in Houston isn't from the refineries

1:27:15

in Houston. It's coming from all the burning

1:27:17

that's going on to the South of Houston.

1:27:19

So, so anyway, what happens

1:27:21

is Gates wants to put a

1:27:23

sulfur dioxide up in the stratosphere

1:27:26

to reflect sunlight. Bad

1:27:28

move, bad move, because

1:27:30

what that means is that if

1:27:32

nature does what nature's going

1:27:34

to do, which eventually is going to let off

1:27:36

a couple of volcanoes, going to blast a heck

1:27:39

of a lot of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere.

1:27:41

Well guess what? If you've already initiated

1:27:44

it, it takes it. It's a lot

1:27:46

easier to cool the atmosphere than it

1:27:48

is to warm it. That should be

1:27:51

intuitive to anybody that understands thermodynamics. The

1:27:53

hotter it gets, the tougher it is

1:27:55

to get hotter. Where's all the warming

1:27:57

taking place? It's taking place in the

1:28:00

coldest, driest areas during their winter season.

1:28:02

This idea that, oh, the migrants are

1:28:04

coming north because it's so hot, you

1:28:07

can't in 40 years detect a

1:28:09

difference of one-tenth of a degree Fahrenheit,

1:28:11

which is what the increase in temperature

1:28:14

has been in Guatemala over the last

1:28:16

40 years or southern Mexico, for instance.

1:28:19

By the way, Mexico is going to have a cool

1:28:21

summer the rest of the way in. So they had

1:28:23

their heat early, but no one's going to tell you

1:28:25

that because there was a lot of speculation

1:28:28

about that. I have

1:28:30

a selfish request here. If Mexico is

1:28:32

going to have a cool summer, what does that mean for

1:28:34

Texas? You're going to fry. Come

1:28:36

on. No, man. Come on. You're killing me.

1:28:38

Listen, at least you got away with it,

1:28:40

Keith. Last year I came down there. Last

1:28:44

year I came down there. I couldn't believe. I

1:28:46

mean, it was, yeah. Well, look, I lived in Texas.

1:28:48

One out of every four years is going to get

1:28:50

real bad with drought in Texas. But Texas has not

1:28:52

been in a drought the last 10, 11 years. Precipitation

1:28:56

in the east has been above normal. The west

1:28:58

has been near normal. Problem is,

1:29:00

the demand on the aquifer is much greater than

1:29:02

it was in the 1950s. So

1:29:05

when people talk about drought, the drought index

1:29:07

being worse, it's not because of less

1:29:10

precipitation. It's because there's

1:29:12

more demand because the drought index, when you

1:29:14

look at the drought index, has to do

1:29:16

with the demand,

1:29:18

too. That's a big part of the drought

1:29:20

index. Okay. So I want to

1:29:23

go back to Bill Gates for a moment. You mentioned

1:29:25

Bill Gates. He needs to be stopped, his plans. Oh,

1:29:27

yeah. Let

1:29:30

me just ask you this real quick. He

1:29:33

can't be the first person who looked

1:29:35

up in the sky and said, let's

1:29:38

control the weather, right?

1:29:41

Well, yeah. So is there

1:29:43

not a clear history of

1:29:45

people, governments, entities

1:29:47

that have thought, hey, let's

1:29:51

come up with a way? Well, they want to modify, local

1:29:54

weather modification has always been practiced.

1:29:56

In fact, there's some big cloud

1:29:58

seeding lawsuit between. Washington and Idaho

1:30:01

many years ago because they were

1:30:03

seeding clouds over Eastern Washington which

1:30:05

is basically a desert climate and

1:30:07

Idaho I guess it was Idaho was

1:30:10

claiming hey you're stealing our water right

1:30:12

because of the precipitation all

1:30:14

comes out there. No local weather modification

1:30:16

most of these companies are just into

1:30:19

you know you know clouds heating

1:30:21

and things like that they're not out to

1:30:23

try to control the entire thing my reason

1:30:25

that I believe Gates's idea

1:30:27

is not well thought out and

1:30:31

it is dangerous is because if

1:30:33

you started doing that let's

1:30:35

say it started to cool and by

1:30:37

the way you put that stuff up

1:30:40

into the stratosphere it's going to likely

1:30:42

lead to stratospheric warming and

1:30:44

stratospheric warming is not it could could

1:30:46

actually when you have warm it over

1:30:48

the poles that's what sends the jet

1:30:50

stream south a lot of times and

1:30:52

leads these severely cold outbreaks we look

1:30:55

for that all the time to see

1:30:57

if the the stratosphere

1:30:59

is warming over the poles and that's

1:31:01

usually a signal for the jet

1:31:03

to plummet into the United States but it

1:31:06

shows a level of arrogance Keith

1:31:08

because he believes that I'm going

1:31:10

to take over this I'm going

1:31:12

to save man huh two

1:31:16

volcanoes going off and guess what

1:31:19

you're back you're back you're back in

1:31:21

the 1970s again and what are you

1:31:23

going to do with the increase in

1:31:25

population and the remember something

1:31:27

about co2 folks plants

1:31:29

adapt better to drought right

1:31:32

they started screaming remember the summer of 2010 11 and

1:31:34

12 it was brutal

1:31:37

this is the start of the new

1:31:39

dust bowl no it wasn't I

1:31:41

mean there's been a lot more rain in the

1:31:43

central and eastern part of the United States since 2012

1:31:45

than it was

1:31:47

then they don't even know what they're looking at half

1:31:49

the time so I take a dim view I

1:31:52

take a dim view of that

1:31:54

kind of weather modification because

1:31:56

it assumes you know what's

1:31:58

going to happen tomorrow only

1:32:01

God knows what happens tomorrow. And maybe

1:32:03

the problem is that some of these

1:32:05

people think they're God and

1:32:08

that they can control things that they did

1:32:10

not create. Okay, so let's

1:32:12

revisit something that Tori brought up in

1:32:14

her hour with me that preceded this.

1:32:17

If those of you tuning in haven't

1:32:19

seen that, the first hour of this

1:32:21

conversation was the case that the weather

1:32:24

is absolutely being manipulated above us. This

1:32:27

hour is to debunk that. Well, when

1:32:29

I say something, the argument that the

1:32:32

Pacific Northwest was cool, I

1:32:35

couldn't believe that. I was like, of course it's cool

1:32:37

when it's hot in the East. And

1:32:40

when it's hot in the West, like it's

1:32:42

getting hot in the West now, right? Guess

1:32:44

what? The trough is coming into the East.

1:32:46

So it's nice, the big

1:32:48

cool, refreshing cool air mass,

1:32:50

right in the East. Well,

1:32:52

every meteorologist knows that, that

1:32:54

the cooling in the Pacific Northwest is a

1:32:56

signal for heat in the East, I

1:32:59

mean, I got clients all over the world and

1:33:01

I got clients all over this country that

1:33:03

rely on the forecast for cooling degree

1:33:05

days, heating degree days. And

1:33:07

I'm like going, Tori, what are you talking

1:33:09

about? Oh, we broke

1:33:11

up the heat wave in the Northwest,

1:33:13

right? Or England or something. No, that's

1:33:16

the way the weather works. The weather works

1:33:18

in certain wavelengths. We call them teleconnections.

1:33:21

They're very important. What teleconnections mean

1:33:23

is if it's hot in one

1:33:25

place, it's going to be cooler

1:33:27

in another place. So you don't

1:33:29

usually, you can't run the whole

1:33:31

table at the whole time, all

1:33:33

right? We've had a hot, relatively

1:33:35

hot, the second hottest June on

1:33:38

record in the United States, haven't been that way

1:33:40

in Canada. They're getting, they've

1:33:42

had abnormally late snow in Western

1:33:44

Canada, but that's no one manipulating

1:33:46

the weather. Or maybe Canadians just

1:33:48

don't know how to do it.

1:33:51

Hold on, let me throw this at you. Let me

1:33:53

throw this at you. Why Scott? One of the things

1:33:55

that, what's that? Why Scott?

1:33:58

Of course they know how to do it. Actually, you

1:34:00

know, I've been keeping an eye closely

1:34:02

on Edmonton's weather as an Edmonton Oilers

1:34:05

hockey fan And so I see all

1:34:07

of the fans standing outside and I've

1:34:09

been checking the weather so I can

1:34:11

attest that it has been very cool

1:34:13

up there During

1:34:16

the playoff run, okay, but but let's not get too

1:34:18

far away from what I want to I want to

1:34:20

do a callback to something that Tori was saying And

1:34:23

she was she mentioned operation Popeye

1:34:25

and About that you

1:34:27

don't anything about that. Okay. Well, that's fine. That's fine. I'm

1:34:29

not gonna ask you to comment on something you're not Familiar

1:34:32

with but you might want to look into

1:34:35

this because this came out in the Pentagon

1:34:37

Papers Over 50 years ago

1:34:39

that that that showed clearly

1:34:41

that the US government that

1:34:43

our armed forces We

1:34:45

were manipulating monsoon season over

1:34:48

Vietnam to affect that war Don't

1:34:51

worry about coming. Let me ask you this question. Hold

1:34:53

on a second Was it manipulating

1:34:55

in they were seeding clouds or

1:34:58

were they changed? You can't change the nature

1:35:00

of the monsoon In other words if the

1:35:03

whole monsoon is going to develop there are

1:35:05

so many large-scale Forcings in fact

1:35:07

the reason we're at one of the reasons

1:35:09

we're having a big hurricane season this year

1:35:11

is because we're going to have a normally

1:35:13

strong monsoon in India All right, that was talked

1:35:15

to me back in the 1970s I

1:35:18

always watch the weather in India and Southeast

1:35:20

Asia Which by the way, if you're listening

1:35:22

from India and Southeast Asia It's gonna be

1:35:25

cooler than normal the rest of this

1:35:27

summer season because you're gonna get a

1:35:29

lot of rain there Now if you're

1:35:31

saying that they were trying to force

1:35:33

it to rain in one area of

1:35:35

Vietnam Over another area of

1:35:37

Vietnam. I can certainly see how that's

1:35:39

done. That's with the cloud seeding But

1:35:42

once the cloud seeding is done the atmosphere

1:35:44

will go right back to what is let's

1:35:46

say you had an operation place for

1:35:49

interior south the northern part

1:35:51

of interior southern South Vietnam

1:35:54

Well, maybe the day before you'd want to

1:35:56

see those clouds and see if you could

1:35:58

get it to not rain for when

1:36:01

the operation. I

1:36:03

can understand that. Local mitigation. In fact,

1:36:05

like I said before, I'm a big

1:36:07

advocate of seeding hurricanes coming to the

1:36:10

coast. All right. We had

1:36:12

a project, Storm Fury, in 1969,

1:36:14

Keith, and they seeded Hurricane

1:36:16

Debbie and knocked the daylights out of

1:36:18

her for about 24 to 36 hours.

1:36:20

And then they claimed later, nah, that

1:36:23

didn't really happen. I saw the data.

1:36:25

It was 1969. I was

1:36:27

going, oh, please don't let this weaken

1:36:30

the heart because I'm a big

1:36:32

extreme weather fanatic. My

1:36:35

dad used to always say, you can't tell people

1:36:38

that because it affects them. And I go, well,

1:36:40

dad, if I can predict it, I can help

1:36:42

them. But Hurricane

1:36:44

Debbie and Project Storm Fury, the first day

1:36:46

it got seeded, knocked the winds down 39%.

1:36:49

And the second day

1:36:51

they seeded it, knocked it down another 17%.

1:36:54

So they were seeding it way out

1:36:56

at sea. And then it

1:37:00

was inconclusive. My idea is that

1:37:03

when you watch eyewall replacement cycles,

1:37:06

that it weakens the storm. It can weaken it from

1:37:08

a four to a three when it's coming onshore. Why

1:37:11

aren't we trying to disrupt the hurricane,

1:37:13

the well-developed hurricanes or intensifying hurricanes,

1:37:15

which we get a lot of

1:37:18

intense, small, intensifying

1:37:20

hurricanes now coming to the coast.

1:37:22

Harvey, for instance, was not nearly as

1:37:24

big a storm as Carla was

1:37:26

as far as hurricane

1:37:28

force winds. And of course,

1:37:31

the reason Harvey caused so much rain

1:37:33

was because it got trapped by a

1:37:35

cold upper air trough. It trapped

1:37:37

the storm and kept it in the same place.

1:37:40

So what happens is, yeah,

1:37:42

I think they've probably been

1:37:44

trying to do that. But

1:37:46

large scale manipulation of the

1:37:48

weather all throughout

1:37:50

the northern hemisphere or blocking

1:37:52

a hurricane over Cuba like

1:37:54

Castro claimed, the atmosphere

1:37:56

is too majestic. You may be able

1:37:58

to tweak it. but

1:38:01

you're not going to be able to change what it's going to

1:38:03

do. Do you

1:38:05

have an opinion in HAARP

1:38:07

based in Alaska? We

1:38:10

discussed this earlier with Tori. It

1:38:13

stands for High Frequency Active or

1:38:15

Rural Research Program. It has been

1:38:18

around quite a bit. I've seen

1:38:20

it come up in congressional testimony.

1:38:22

Do you have any take on

1:38:24

what that might be? I

1:38:31

always say that there's

1:38:33

nothing new under the sun. We're observing

1:38:36

it more. What

1:38:38

we do is we see stuff and go,

1:38:40

hey, maybe we can change that or maybe

1:38:42

we can change this. But you

1:38:45

know what? We should probably take

1:38:47

care of land-based situations. Alex

1:38:50

Epstein, who wrote the moral case for fossil

1:38:52

fuels, is exactly right. If it's

1:38:54

occurring, adapt to it and move on. I

1:38:57

got a sticker right here. I love CO2. Yeah.

1:39:01

So, adapt to it and move on.

1:39:04

But long before there was government cloud

1:39:06

seeding beginning in the 40s, there

1:39:09

was Nikolai Tesla, and we've got to do a show

1:39:11

on Tesla. I mean, this kind

1:39:13

of stuff, it's... I mean,

1:39:15

we've at least had a curiosity

1:39:19

for quite a while as far as drastically

1:39:22

making changes in

1:39:25

the skies above us. But

1:39:28

is there something from your perspective

1:39:30

as a meteorologist, is

1:39:32

there something that you can lean on or

1:39:34

that you would want to make sure gets

1:39:37

transmitted to an audience such as this

1:39:40

to say, because you're no

1:39:42

defender of this government. I should say that. You

1:39:45

come from a perspective, you're not a fan of the

1:39:47

US government. I mean, I don't want to put words

1:39:49

in your mouth. I don't want to put words in

1:39:51

your mouth. Okay, go ahead. No, I'm a huge fan

1:39:53

of Noah. I mean, just because I

1:39:55

speak up on disagreements,

1:39:57

personal disagreements or beliefs...

1:40:00

that some people shouldn't be where

1:40:02

they are, that doesn't mean I'm

1:40:04

not a fan. My goodness, you

1:40:06

take the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration,

1:40:08

greatest governmental weather service in the

1:40:10

world. If it wasn't for them,

1:40:12

I wouldn't be able to do my job. And I

1:40:15

say that all the time. I'm not a-

1:40:17

What do you mean by that? Well,

1:40:19

their research, the amount of research they supply,

1:40:21

even if I disagree with them, I get

1:40:23

to look at everything they do. See, I

1:40:26

look at everything the other side does, they

1:40:28

don't look at anything I do. Why

1:40:31

is that? Because if one schmuck in

1:40:33

State College, Pennsylvania can forecast a hurricane

1:40:35

a week away, like we did with

1:40:37

Ian, right? Right in CFAC,

1:40:39

attention, Governor DeSantis, Ian

1:40:41

was a bunch of clouds or Harvey, five

1:40:44

days away. Well, everybody staring at the eclipse

1:40:46

on August 21st, we're warning

1:40:48

our Texas clients about the

1:40:51

Hurricane Harvey, that we're gonna have a

1:40:53

major hurricane. Or the Texas freeze, that

1:40:55

was a nine-day call, okay?

1:40:58

So what happens is,

1:41:00

that's what I need to be able

1:41:02

to do. I don't have

1:41:04

time. God did not make me,

1:41:06

although when I was a kid, I

1:41:09

loved John Kennedy, I wanted to be president. But

1:41:11

if I really wanted to get into it, I

1:41:14

would have run for office. But instead

1:41:16

what I do is I point out

1:41:18

the other side of the issue. It's

1:41:21

like, I'm a mad

1:41:23

dog about having all the information

1:41:25

out there for people to see.

1:41:27

Now, what I believe is going

1:41:29

on, and I don't, is that

1:41:31

you're too stupid to understand that, and

1:41:34

there's a bigger goal here,

1:41:37

and you're just going to interrupt the

1:41:39

goal by bringing up things, you know,

1:41:41

like the underwater heating of the

1:41:44

oceans like that. Look,

1:41:47

the ocean atmospheric system

1:41:49

is so strong that you can't

1:41:52

control it. If you think

1:41:54

you can control it, you think you

1:41:56

are God, that's what I

1:41:58

believe, okay? As a... committed

1:42:00

Christian, I believe the majesty

1:42:02

of the atmosphere, overall the design, the plan,

1:42:05

or whatever. My dad used to always say

1:42:07

to me, and you

1:42:09

folks take this definition, weather

1:42:12

and climate are nature's

1:42:14

way of trying to balance out

1:42:16

something she's incapable of doing because

1:42:18

of the design of the system.

1:42:21

Look at the way the globe, most of

1:42:23

the land is in the northern hemisphere, most

1:42:25

of the ocean in the southern hemisphere. You

1:42:27

have a continent at the bottom of the

1:42:30

globe, you have actually an ocean that's covered

1:42:32

with ice all the time, even though Al

1:42:34

Gore in 2006 of the ice would be

1:42:38

gone, we have more Arctic sea ice

1:42:40

now than we did in 2006. How

1:42:42

about them apples? So you have this

1:42:44

and then it has

1:42:47

an elliptical orbit around an

1:42:49

inconsistent source of energy

1:42:51

called the Sun. Right? It

1:42:54

also wobbles on its axis. Do

1:42:56

you really think that, oh, every day is going to

1:42:59

be 75 degrees, it's

1:43:01

going to rain from three to six

1:43:03

in the morning on my garden, then

1:43:05

I go outside with the unicorns and

1:43:08

the flowers and the birds and it's

1:43:10

Mary Poppins. No, the atmosphere is built

1:43:12

for turmoil. Life is

1:43:14

built for turmoil. No one

1:43:17

advances without a challenge, nor

1:43:19

does the atmosphere resolve these

1:43:21

turmoils without challenges. And to

1:43:24

our credit, we are capable

1:43:26

of seeing everything today. We

1:43:28

see ideas, I'm tornado north

1:43:31

of Hayes, Kansas, we'll make

1:43:33

the national news sometimes, right? We would have never

1:43:35

done that in the 1950s,

1:43:38

right? So we see all this and

1:43:40

then you get, and I always talk

1:43:42

about the weapon, well, it's my book,

1:43:44

Weaponization, Weather and the Phony Climate War,

1:43:46

Washington Post, AP, you could just name

1:43:49

it, everything. They're even changing the

1:43:51

color schemes and weather maps. In

1:43:53

the UK, if it's 21C, they

1:43:56

have a red-pink bomb to

1:43:58

make you think it's hot,

1:44:00

right? Even though the temperature on the

1:44:03

screen is actually lower than it was

1:44:05

five years ago when they didn't have

1:44:07

color code. You've seen those. So, you

1:44:09

know, they had, so all this stuff.

1:44:11

Now, this is where I have

1:44:13

a problem. But you listen, you live in

1:44:16

the greatest country in the world. And,

1:44:18

you know, what I think

1:44:20

is that the truth has to be out.

1:44:23

I think does bother me is I think

1:44:25

we should be one nation under God, not

1:44:28

a nation instead of God, because

1:44:31

that makes you, if

1:44:34

you replace God with

1:44:36

the government, the government has to become your

1:44:38

God. And as a fundamentalist Christian, evangelical

1:44:41

Christian, I should say, I'm against

1:44:43

that. And the weather teaches

1:44:45

me, you know, if you ever

1:44:48

saw, you ever see the movie Charites of Fire? You

1:44:51

ever see that movie? It's been

1:44:53

on my list for years. Okay,

1:44:55

well, Pastor Eric Little said, God

1:44:57

made me fast and I feel his pleasure

1:45:00

when I run. Well, after all

1:45:02

these years, God made me

1:45:04

to do the weather. And I see his

1:45:07

majesty every day, every morning

1:45:09

is Christmas to me. I

1:45:11

get up at 4.30 to start work. What?

1:45:13

It's like, here's the gift of

1:45:16

the weather and I get to unwrap it. And

1:45:18

so that kind of perspective could

1:45:21

be viewed as unreasonable. But I

1:45:23

have gratitude for this. And

1:45:26

with gratitude, a lot of times comes to

1:45:28

awe. And so I'm in awe at what

1:45:30

I see. So when

1:45:32

this discussion began over an

1:45:34

hour and a half ago, I told my

1:45:38

brother, I'm not dismissing what Tori

1:45:40

says. She may be right. Who

1:45:43

knows? I'm not God. I don't

1:45:45

know tomorrow. But from my perspective,

1:45:47

what is a much, much bigger,

1:45:49

the oceans control the

1:45:52

shooting match. Okay. By

1:45:54

that, I mean, I've always been, the old

1:45:56

time forecasters, always looked at

1:45:59

the tropics, always looked at the heat

1:46:01

build up in the oceans because that's where

1:46:03

the energy is. You go to where

1:46:05

the energy is. And so

1:46:07

if all the heat is in the

1:46:10

oceans and then has to be redistributed,

1:46:12

you study the oceans and you say,

1:46:14

well, why did that happen? Why did

1:46:16

this happen? Could it have possibly happened

1:46:18

because of man-made input? And if you

1:46:20

really look at it, no, that it

1:46:23

couldn't be happening because of that. The

1:46:25

oceans drive the atmosphere, not the atmosphere

1:46:27

drives the ocean. So,

1:46:30

okay. When I

1:46:33

started this conversation, in fact, when I invited

1:46:35

both you and Tori on to give both

1:46:37

sides of this issue, I

1:46:39

said to both of you and I

1:46:42

said at the onset of this conversation

1:46:44

earlier when we started, I

1:46:46

said, look, I'm on the fence. I can

1:46:48

go either way on this. So I

1:46:51

want you to get, because that's that

1:46:54

is where I started. So I want

1:46:56

you to please give me an elevator

1:46:58

pitch to just, if

1:47:00

you and I were writing to be a hundred stories, what

1:47:04

would you say to me if I got

1:47:06

on and go, hey, so what do you

1:47:08

do? Hey, I'm a weatherman. Hey, is the

1:47:10

weather, is it being manipulated? What would

1:47:12

you say to that person to try

1:47:14

to convince them just in a two

1:47:16

minute elevator type pitch? I don't think

1:47:18

I possibly could because of the fact,

1:47:21

how am I supposed to do that when

1:47:23

a person hasn't looked at anything? See,

1:47:26

that's a problem. It's like what

1:47:28

CNN, I know friends of mine

1:47:30

that watch CNN and MSNBC, they

1:47:32

have no idea of

1:47:34

the other side of the issue. They

1:47:37

don't believe anything. All right. Now, guys

1:47:39

like you and me, we have to

1:47:41

hear the other side of that issue

1:47:43

because of the fact that most of

1:47:46

the media is just bombing people with

1:47:48

it. So what I would tell these people, let's say we

1:47:50

were talking, we were talking about that. I said, okay,

1:47:52

here's what you need to do. And we

1:47:55

could have the conversation in two years. I

1:47:57

want you to try to forecast the weather on a global

1:47:59

scale. every day for two years. Okay?

1:48:03

Try to forecast the weather. Okay?

1:48:05

And then you can come back and talk to me.

1:48:08

Because what happens is, when you forecast

1:48:10

the weather, and you see all this

1:48:12

stuff going on, you understand

1:48:15

that. For instance, Michael Mann's hockey stick.

1:48:18

Not only was it only two of the

1:48:20

22 possibilities, and

1:48:22

he chose the two that showed the hockey

1:48:24

stick, right? But he made

1:48:26

no sense in saying that

1:48:28

the medieval warm period was

1:48:31

regional, because that does not

1:48:34

happen in real life. When it's

1:48:36

warm over the UK, or warm up

1:48:38

into Greenland and Iceland, it's warm in the East

1:48:40

and the United States. So when you say to

1:48:42

me, no, it was only warm over

1:48:44

here, and the rest of

1:48:46

the world was cold, that doesn't happen,

1:48:49

especially over 100 years. But

1:48:51

why wouldn't Michael Mann think about that? Maybe

1:48:54

he did think about it. But if you forecasted the

1:48:56

weather, you sure as heck think about it, because

1:48:58

you know when the area that's

1:49:01

in the medieval warm period gets argued over, when

1:49:03

it gets warm there, the

1:49:05

general nature of the planet is to be

1:49:07

warmer. Why? Because

1:49:10

the Mann-Julian oscillation, which

1:49:13

is circulating over the oceans, is

1:49:16

in its warm phases. So if

1:49:18

you get a situation, and we're in that

1:49:20

situation now, where the

1:49:22

configuration of the oceanic warming favors

1:49:25

the Mann-Julian oscillation, big

1:49:27

in what we call phases four, five, and six,

1:49:30

that is a globally warm signal,

1:49:32

right? So this has been going on.

1:49:34

Now, what caused that? Well, something

1:49:36

had to warm the oceans, and

1:49:39

if CO2's bands were saturated, if

1:49:42

you look at something called Lachatere's principle, the

1:49:45

greatest effect of

1:49:47

something added to the system should occur at the

1:49:49

start. It

1:49:52

should not be occurring 70 years later. So

1:49:54

when you say to me, how can, it's

1:49:56

like when someone asks me, tells

1:49:59

me, Well, CO2 is warm in

1:50:01

the atmosphere. The first thing I

1:50:03

say is, OK, explain to me

1:50:05

how that happens. Most people have

1:50:07

no idea why CO2 does have

1:50:09

some impact. Now, you notice what

1:50:11

I'm saying? The argument is not

1:50:13

whether CO2 has impact. It's over

1:50:15

attribution. And is it actually measurable?

1:50:17

And then you get to the

1:50:19

political thing. So I studied that.

1:50:21

But how do I tell someone,

1:50:23

as we're going up to this

1:50:25

elevator, what I tell

1:50:28

them is, and I think every climatologist, every researcher

1:50:30

should be made to forecast the weather for two

1:50:32

years. Because Lord knows, I had to take climatology.

1:50:34

It was beaten in my head. Not beaten into

1:50:37

my head. But my father taught me from when

1:50:39

he was at A&M. And

1:50:41

I was only 5 to 10 years old. You could

1:50:44

tell I love the weather. He said, the easiest way

1:50:46

to try to forecast tomorrow is to learn what happened

1:50:48

yesterday. So I've

1:50:51

always been fascinated by the weather in

1:50:54

other periods of this Earth's history. So

1:50:56

how am I supposed to do that? I don't know. So

1:50:59

OK, one of the things that,

1:51:01

and you started the conversation with

1:51:03

this, and I'm fascinated by this,

1:51:06

is the possibility of volcanic

1:51:09

eruptions heating the ocean temperatures. Gee,

1:51:11

it's not more important. It doesn't

1:51:13

always have to be eruptions. But

1:51:15

Honga, for instance, stuck 5% to

1:51:18

10% more water vapor in

1:51:21

the air. I did the calculations. That

1:51:25

amount of water vapor put in the air is

1:51:27

accountable for the warming we've seen in the last two

1:51:29

to three years. Meanwhile, the

1:51:31

cumulative buildup of heat over the

1:51:33

last 30 years explains

1:51:36

perfectly, if you look at what we

1:51:38

call saturation mixing ratios. You meteorologists out

1:51:40

there should know them. You should have

1:51:42

the scales memorized. At

1:51:45

minus 40, the increase of 1 tenth

1:51:48

of 1 gram of water vapor will

1:51:50

increase the temperature by 10 degrees. Correlates to

1:51:52

a 10 degree increase

1:51:55

in temperature. You need 95 times that at

1:51:57

70 to 80 degrees. to

1:52:00

force the same thing. So tiny amount,

1:52:02

relatively small amounts of water vapor will

1:52:05

do the trick. And that is a

1:52:07

direct correlation unlike CO2 which

1:52:09

has no correlation in the temperature. But

1:52:11

where would that come from? If the

1:52:14

oceans warm up, guess what

1:52:16

happens? The air has to warm. It's

1:52:19

not the other way around. Anyone that goes to

1:52:21

the beach knows that you

1:52:23

get a sea breeze and the temperature cuts

1:52:26

the temperature down like crazy. So the

1:52:28

oceans are the shooting match. Okay,

1:52:31

so what I started to say there

1:52:33

is your theory, which

1:52:36

like I said, I'm fascinated by this.

1:52:38

My question is whether I use

1:52:41

the word eruptions or whatever, geothermal, I

1:52:43

got it. And

1:52:45

I wanna get hung up on definitions. I'm

1:52:47

talking about the ocean getting heated from

1:52:50

underneath, okay? Is

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