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Sarah
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has really been a driving force in
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all of this and without what she's
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been doing, I don't think we would
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have the exposure. Whenever we
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hear they found a missing body, we are
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like, do we want it to be Christopher
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or not? It's kind of a scary
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thing because we want to know what happened to him,
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but then and again, one time she told me
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someone said that he had been buried
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out somewhere. And
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I had the worst dreams for
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months just imagining him being
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thrown in a hole while he
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was still alive and kind of
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with dirt. It was one of
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those things I was like, it's really hard when you're the
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mother. In
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late May of 2019, 41-year-old
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Christopher Dietrich quietly disappeared from
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Elkton, Maryland. About a
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week later, his ex-wife received a phone
1:00
call from the University of Maryland Cancer
1:02
Center in Baltimore. Chris hadn't
1:04
made it to his appointment on June 5th. That's
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when she got in contact with Chris's sister
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and they began to compare notes and try
1:11
to find anyone who had seen or spoken
1:13
to Chris over the past week. But
1:15
there was no sign of Chris, so his
1:18
sister Sarah reported him missing. During
1:20
the course of the investigation, they uncovered
1:22
video surveillance footage of Chris at the
1:24
Cecil County Health Department in Elkton around
1:27
11 a.m. on May 30th. But
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that's where his trail goes cold. Chris's
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last outgoing call was made the same evening
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at 5.05 p.m. and
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his phone continued using data until 6.55
1:39
p.m. on May 31st and showed that
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his phone pinged inside the town of
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Elkton. Five years later, Chris's
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case remains a mystery. I'm
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or text MIA to 500-500. When
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Chris disappeared, he was facing a challenging phase
2:55
in his life. At just 41 years old,
2:58
he was dealing with
3:00
multiple serious health conditions, including
3:02
late-stage melanoma on his leg, which
3:04
was both painful and limiting. But
3:07
life wasn't always this way for Chris. So
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we're going to start at the beginning of
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Chris's story. Chris grew up
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in both Maryland and Delaware. Throughout
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his entire life, he had an especially close
3:18
bond with his younger sister, Sarah, a
3:20
bond that was never broken. And that bond
3:23
is why you're hearing Chris's story today. Sarah
3:25
is a force, and she's been searching nonstop
3:27
since the day she learned that her brother
3:29
was missing. Chris's mom, Pat, explained
3:32
what Chris was like growing up and
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how he and Sarah were very different,
3:36
but also so close. He
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was, I want to say inquisitive
3:40
about things. He was always quiet.
3:43
You could see that he was looking at things
3:45
and figuring out what
3:47
they were. His mind was always
3:50
moving. And I remember there was
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times when I go to pick him up from daycare
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and they'd say, well, Christopher came out missing
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and we found him in the other room and he
3:58
was doing blah, blah, blah. entertain
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himself and he didn't have any
4:02
problem being by himself, which Sarah
4:05
was the complete opposite. She needed
4:07
to be around people. Sarah
4:10
is the driving force behind the search for
4:12
Chris today, and she shared with us
4:14
more about their lives growing up and the strong
4:17
bond that they always shared. We
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grew up, we lived in Delaware
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until I was 12, and
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then we lived in Northeast Maryland, which
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is right next to Elton. We all
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graduated high school from that Cecil County
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area. I've had numerous people say
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to me that me and him have almost
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what would appear to be a twin type
4:38
bond, even though we're not twins, but the
4:40
bond that me and him share together is
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almost not as strong as twins would have.
4:45
We were always very, very close for all
4:48
each other ever had. I mean, not that
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my mom wasn't around. We always
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did a lot together. There was nothing
4:54
that we ever worried about
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sharing with each other, that we would
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worry about judgment from the other. And
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even if the other did give judgment, it was more
5:03
to pick on each other, bust on each other kind
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of thing. When Sarah
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and Chris were kids, Sarah met
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a friend, Lori, who had an
5:11
older brother close in age to
5:13
Chris. Together they became a tight
5:15
friend group. Here's Lori. Sarah and
5:18
I met at the end of
5:20
second grade, and then our brothers
5:22
became friends as well. We were
5:24
pretty close as kids. We
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maintained our friendship through adulthood, but not
5:29
constant. Sarah and I are about six
5:31
months apart, and our brothers are between
5:33
two and three years older than us.
5:35
Growing up, he was quite the character.
5:37
He always had a little trick up
5:40
his sleeve. It was fun to be
5:42
around. He was just an
5:44
all around genuine person. He's been like that
5:46
ever since I've known him. Chris's
5:49
parents later divorced, and Pam said that
5:51
this was an exceptionally painful time for
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Chris, and she believes it left a
5:55
lasting impact on her son for his
5:57
entire life. It was
5:59
a really good kid and I think
6:01
one of the worst parts for him
6:03
was when his father left, he felt
6:06
abandoned because his father did a lot
6:08
of things with him like baseball wise.
6:10
He was helped with his little baseball team that
6:12
he was on. I remember I
6:14
had to go pick him up quite a
6:17
few times during that time because he would
6:19
be so sick. He just was
6:21
so upset. It really had
6:23
a big negative effect in
6:25
his life and I think that kept
6:28
going forward and he started to
6:30
have an attitude where he didn't really
6:32
care about things as much. School, he
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didn't really care about school, which a
6:36
lot of boys were that way, but
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Chris Sherwood just felt ejected and it
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didn't matter what he did because he
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didn't have his father. His dad was
6:46
a good dad, so it was a
6:48
very strange thing to happen. He
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liked being around his dad. Sarah didn't like to
6:52
go because she didn't like the wife. That's
6:55
why she didn't want to go
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and she wasn't really hurt by
6:59
him leaving as Chris Sherwood was.
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He lived with me through high
7:03
school. He never did well
7:06
in school. He was more of a
7:08
hands-on type of person. He was good
7:10
doing different mechanical type
7:12
things. He had that strong ability
7:14
of mechanics and he
7:16
was a very good painter. He had
7:19
a really good attention to detail and
7:21
he liked art. He drew a lot.
7:23
He was very creative. Sarah
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and Chris's friend Lori said that in hindsight, she
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can see how much of an impact the divorce
7:30
had on him. I'll say
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ever since their parents divorced and
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I kind of had a similar thing
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because our parents were divorced also, but
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I don't think he was ever really
7:42
truly able to get past that. It
7:44
affects people differently. No two people are
7:47
exactly the same. After
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Chris's parents divorced and his father moved
7:51
on to a new relationship, he and
7:53
his new wife adopted a son, Brian.
7:56
Chris was significantly older than Brian, but
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played a pivotal role in Brian's
8:00
early childhood. Brian told us that
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he has many fond memories of his big brother. So
8:06
he was born in
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77. I was born in 91. So
8:10
pretty significant difference. Sarah and Chris are
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my adoptive brother and sister. I was
8:15
adopted by their biological father when I
8:17
was a baby. I spent a
8:19
lot of time growing up with Chris,
8:21
more so than Sarah, because by the
8:23
time I was in the picture, Sarah
8:25
was living with her mom and
8:28
Chris was kind of bebopping
8:30
between his mom and our
8:33
dad. He and I kind of grew
8:35
up together in a sense and there
8:37
was a lot more time, more often
8:39
than not. He was around me a
8:41
lot more and like my parents worked,
8:43
my dad worked as a truck driver. My
8:45
mom was going to school as a
8:47
nurse. They'd go on runs together, basically just
8:49
be me and my brother. One of the
8:52
earliest memories I have of him doing stuff
8:54
with me was like, we lived in Newark,
8:56
Delaware and he basically introduced me
8:58
to baseball and video games and stuff like
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that. So with five or six, he was
9:03
just always there, always normal big brother stuff.
9:05
Russell with me fight with me, but also
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like teaching stuff. He would take me to
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the park. My dad would give him money
9:12
for pizza and stuff like that. Whenever they
9:14
had to go on a weekend trip, we'd
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wake up Saturday morning. We'd walk
9:18
to this little library. He'd let
9:20
me go read whatever books I wanted to go
9:22
read. There was this little park
9:24
that was just outside of the library. We'd
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just sit there and eat lunch or run
9:29
and play. And then every single time we
9:31
would leave that area, there was a little
9:33
porn store and you always go in there.
9:36
All right, cool. Grab whatever candy bar you
9:38
want. I'm going to grab a Mountain Dew.
9:40
A lot of good times with them. In
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high school, Chris met a friend, Shiloh. Back
9:46
then they were strictly friends, but they
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reconnected years later and there was a
9:51
spark. Here's Shiloh. We
9:53
actually were friends in school. If you look
9:55
in my yearbook underneath his picture, it says
9:57
my little brother. We were just friends. But
10:00
then outside of school, he worked
10:02
with a guy whose wife worked with me,
10:04
and we just kind of reconnected that way
10:06
because we were taking something to their work
10:09
for the guys to have and he was
10:11
there. We just kind of hung out a
10:13
few times and it just went from there.
10:16
He was very funny. He's a funny
10:18
guy. He had a good sense of
10:20
humor like the laugh and play pranks
10:22
and things of that nature. He was
10:24
just very humorous. Didn't like confrontation at
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all. 2001
10:28
was a big year for Chris and Shiloh.
10:30
They got married and had twins, a boy
10:33
and a girl. Since Brian was significantly younger
10:35
than Chris, he was still a kid at
10:37
the time and spent a lot of time
10:39
with Chris's children growing up. I
10:42
was very close when Michael and Sarah were
10:44
born. I would go to their
10:46
house usually on the weekend when I had
10:48
off from school or whatever and just hang
10:50
out and just be around my niece and
10:52
nephew and him and Shiloh. They're
10:54
10 years younger than me. When
10:57
they were born, it was really exciting
10:59
for me because I was
11:01
just old enough to understand, but not
11:03
quite old enough to do the normal
11:06
uncle thing. So I could still
11:08
go out and play and do stuff with
11:10
them as they got older, kind of do
11:12
what he did for me when I was
11:14
growing up. This period
11:16
of Chris's life is a time that everyone looks
11:18
back on as a good time, a time when
11:20
Chris seemed to have things together for the most
11:22
part. We also spoke to one
11:25
of Chris's friends, Larry, who worked alongside
11:27
Chris for years. He told us more
11:29
about Chris from a friend's perspective. Yeah,
11:32
I've known Chris for a long time. Me
11:34
and Chris became work colleagues. We worked at IKEA
11:36
probably around the time I turned 18 to like
11:38
22 years ago. We
11:41
had a group of friends. We weren't really close
11:43
friends at that time, but a couple years later,
11:45
we worked for a company called
11:48
NBM. We did all the restaurant
11:50
food for Darden and Chick-fil-A and
11:52
whatnot. So picking and loading orders.
11:55
And at that point, we became real close
11:57
friends, drinking buddies. He was married to
11:59
Shiloh. Chris was just happy all
12:01
the time. Chris was... It was just
12:03
pleasant to be around, you know what
12:05
I mean? He was always cracking jokes.
12:08
A lot of his mannerisms and idiosyncrasies
12:10
I developed, he had this big Jim
12:12
Carrey impression he would always do. And
12:14
I still do that laugh to this day. And every time
12:16
I do it, I think of the guy. He
12:19
was just pleasant to be around. I mean, I love to do
12:21
to death. Chris and
12:23
Shiloh's relationship had its ups and downs,
12:25
and they ultimately decided to part ways.
12:28
They remain friends, though. And Shiloh was
12:30
a consistent presence in Chris's life, up
12:32
until the time he disappeared. We
12:35
were together for about
12:38
three years, and then
12:40
we separated for about two, got
12:43
back together for another four, and
12:45
then separated for good at that point. We
12:48
just realized we made better friends and spouses.
12:50
And it worked out, I mean, he
12:53
obviously had his own downfalls
12:55
and things that he was going through in his
12:57
life, but we would always chat and check in
12:59
with each other from time to time. One
13:02
thing I can definitely say is he definitely
13:04
loved his kids. When the kids were with
13:06
him, when we separated, and he would have
13:08
the kids on his own, they talk about
13:10
hunting frogs in the ponds, and they would
13:12
always have funny times and play games. When
13:14
he was with them, he was good with
13:16
them. We were still friends, and I would
13:18
do for him because he was Sarah Michael's
13:21
dad. To me, Chris, he had this thing
13:23
where he would self-destruct. Things would start to do
13:25
really good, and then for whatever reason, he would
13:27
just self-destruct. I don't know exactly if
13:29
it was in our demons that he needed to
13:31
get worked out, but he
13:34
just never let out. Hence, like I said,
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16:18
went well for a time. That was until
16:20
Chris went on a work trip to Ohio
16:22
and met someone new. Here's Sarah. Where
16:25
I was living with my boyfriend, we wanted to get her in
16:27
place. And I asked Chris, I said, hey, you want to go
16:29
in with us? And he was like,
16:31
yeah, sure. So we, three of us got a place
16:33
together. Things were awesome. He was doing
16:35
really good at his job. He was working at a
16:37
warehouse and they had sent him to Ohio to
16:40
open up a new location. He
16:43
was there for a month. Two days before he
16:45
left, he met this girl named Nicole at
16:48
a bar. Fell head over heels for
16:50
her, instantly. And he came home and then
16:52
she ended up coming to our
16:54
house from Ohio and I knew she
16:56
had kids and he was like, oh, it's a long
16:58
story. And I'm like, dude, I got time. There's nothing
17:00
that I don't have time to hear why a mother
17:03
would want to leave their kids and come somewhere.
17:05
Like that's just bizarre to me. I thought there
17:07
was bad news with her from the get go
17:09
that you'd leave your children that were
17:11
younger. I don't know. I didn't get a good
17:13
vibe from her. And then I found out that
17:15
she had actually had troubles with heroin
17:17
and that kind of stuff. I
17:19
had a talk with her the one day and I was
17:21
like, I don't know where you stand with that if
17:24
you're still struggling or sober or whatever.
17:26
But I beg if you don't take my
17:28
brother down this road because he is not
17:30
strong enough to come out of it. I
17:32
know he's not. I knew that if he got
17:34
hooked on that drug, that that would be the
17:36
end of him. So she said, oh, no, no,
17:38
no, I'm not. I'm not. Well,
17:41
next thing you know, they were. And I
17:43
was at work one day and my
17:45
daughter's father was at the house and
17:47
apparently they had some people over and
17:49
someone overdosed in the basement. I was
17:51
like, OK, I'm done. I can't have this around
17:53
my child. Like, I don't need the state coming
17:55
and trying to take my child from me because
17:58
I have this stuff happening in my home. It's
18:00
just, it's not okay. Chris's
18:02
friend Larry can recall this time period after
18:04
Chris and Shiloh had broken up. They
18:07
spent a lot of their free time together then. Everything
18:10
seemed business as usual for Chris until he
18:12
went on that fateful trip to Ohio. Him
18:15
and Shiloh already had a falling
18:17
out before then. So he
18:20
was living that kind of single life to
18:22
begin with. Him and I, we
18:24
were drinking buddies. So anytime that we got
18:26
a chance after work or anytime during the
18:28
weekends, we could hang out. We
18:31
did. I remember him going to Ohio and
18:33
meeting the one girl that he ended up
18:35
bringing back here. I don't
18:37
remember hanging out with her too much
18:39
because a lot of those friends back
18:41
in the day, they knew how I
18:43
stood whenever it came to drugs and
18:45
whatnot. I was their drinking buddy. That's
18:48
it. At first, I mean, he was
18:50
absolutely in love. I mean, it was
18:52
this beautiful blonde that he met out
18:54
of nowhere that wanted to upend her
18:56
life and come back here. I mean,
18:58
at that time he was doing OK,
19:01
at least from the outside look. He bought
19:03
his dream car. He had this little like
19:05
300Z. He was
19:07
riding around in a sports car with a few
19:09
blondes. So from the outside in, it looked like
19:12
he was doing OK. But
19:14
we were hanging out less and less. So
19:16
whatever he was into or what he was
19:18
doing, I wasn't sure. It
19:21
wasn't until I
19:23
heard about some crazy things happening.
19:26
At this point in time, Chris's brother Brian
19:28
had grown up and enlisted in the military.
19:31
So he wasn't around to see what was going on.
19:33
But he had heard that something was up with Chris.
19:36
I was getting information from Sarah and a
19:39
couple other parties that we had grown up
19:41
around. And I was hearing all
19:43
this. And it was very
19:45
upsetting because the person that I grew
19:47
up with, I could never see that.
19:49
In a sense, destroying his life didn't
19:52
sit well with me. During that
19:54
time, I was actually, I believe
19:56
I was deployed. So I was
19:58
getting all this information while I was overseas. And
20:00
then by the time I got back, I had
20:03
conversations with him about it. We were trying to
20:05
figure out what was going on. Was there anything
20:07
that we could do to kind of help? He
20:10
was kind of drifting. He didn't really have a place
20:12
that he hung his hat. So I mean, by definition,
20:14
I guess you would call it homeless. He
20:17
would like bounce around
20:19
the Elton, Bel Air area. I
20:22
could tell he was not what
20:24
he was from the crystal I remembered and
20:26
what I grew up with. But I could
20:28
tell he was struggling and dealing with some
20:30
stuff. Pam couldn't
20:33
believe how quickly Chris went from doing well
20:35
to struggling. She tried to talk
20:37
some sense into him, but she was helpless
20:39
to control the situation or prevent her son
20:41
from spiraling further. I
20:44
thought he was doing so, so well.
20:46
He met the girl that would
20:48
end up getting him on drugs
20:51
and he'd lose his job
20:53
and become homeless. It was
20:55
really fast. And he was in
20:58
with Sarah at the time that it all
21:00
went down. And so Sarah kind of, she
21:02
saw what was going on. I
21:04
had called him to talk to him, but I
21:06
just wanted to say, you know, look where
21:08
you are. You don't want to lose
21:11
all this. He lost any
21:13
care about what he should
21:15
be doing or what was the right thing. He
21:18
didn't know when to stop. Sarah
21:20
said that Chris and this woman decided to
21:22
go back to Ohio together. But things didn't
21:25
improve there either. In fact,
21:27
Chris seemed to plunge deeper into addiction
21:29
and ended up returning home to Maryland.
21:32
So those two ended up actually going
21:34
back to Ohio, to her grandmother's house.
21:36
They were both very heavily addicted. Her
21:40
grandparents were like, you know, you guys got
21:42
to separate. You guys aren't going to survive
21:44
this being together. So anyway to contact him
21:46
and he knew that he could always
21:48
talk to me, but I'm sure with the drugs
21:51
and everything that he had going on, he
21:53
was probably humiliated a little bit. Chris
21:55
was using and a lot of the people that we
21:57
used to hang out with went down that road. to.
22:00
I have family that went down that road.
22:02
I have some really good friends that I
22:04
consider family that have gone down that road.
22:06
I've always been here to help, but it's,
22:08
you know, it's your choice, right? And
22:11
in this area, it's, it's really, really
22:13
bad. I'm really surprised that
22:15
Chris and his personality allowed that to
22:17
take control of him because he was
22:19
a very strong person. He
22:22
stood on on his morals and
22:24
what was right and what was wrong. I
22:26
guarantee even through his doing the things that
22:28
he was probably doing in order to get
22:30
his, his fix or his next set, he
22:32
probably didn't do anything bad to anybody. He
22:34
didn't have it in him to do that.
22:37
It was after this time that Chris began
22:39
drifting around. He stayed on the streets of
22:41
Elton, Maryland, where he met a friend named
22:43
Wes. He was kind of living
22:46
in a place called Meadow Park for a while. He
22:48
had a tent by himself, sleeping wherever
22:50
he could start out in the park. And
22:52
then he met some people and then
22:55
he ended up living in Tent City with this
22:57
guy that he met. And his parents didn't
22:59
really like their son being in there
23:01
and then he begged him, please, please, you guys come back
23:03
here. Both of you can. So they went to,
23:06
Wes would actually sleep in the house, but
23:08
Chris, they allowed him to put a tent
23:10
in their backyard and they ran electric cord
23:12
to it and everything. So he could plug
23:14
in a heater. He could come inside and
23:17
shower, use the bathroom. Wes's mom fed him
23:19
with laundry. I believe Wes died in 2017.
23:21
It was very awful. And Chris's mother was
23:25
very upset about that. After
23:27
Chris's friend passed away, Wes's parents continued
23:29
to allow Chris to stay on their
23:31
property in his tent. Chris's life seemed
23:33
to have bottomed out and he was
23:35
never able to pull himself out of
23:38
it. But Sarah said she still kept
23:40
in contact with his children and she
23:42
credits Shiloh for fostering that relationship instead
23:44
of shutting Chris out. I mean,
23:47
she still made sure when he
23:49
was living on the streets and stuff that he
23:51
got to see the kids regularly to take them
23:53
all out to dinner just so they could see
23:55
him and spend time with him or meet him
23:58
at the park. great
24:00
about that always was, which is awesome
24:02
because you don't always see that, especially
24:04
the lifestyle he ended up going towards.
24:06
She still remained a better person there.
24:08
Between her and I, we always made sure
24:11
that Chris kept in contact and we knew where
24:13
he was. As Chris
24:15
got older, he developed a number of serious
24:17
medical problems. Sarah said that many
24:19
years ago, it was Shiloh who had spotted a
24:21
mole on Chris's leg that looked kind of funky.
24:24
Shiloh voiced concern over it at the
24:26
time, but Chris didn't take it seriously.
24:29
A decision that came back to haunt him many
24:31
years later. Before
24:33
him and Shiloh split up, she had noticed that
24:35
that mole was changing and said, man, you should
24:37
get that looked at. The kids were very young
24:39
when that was first changing colors and
24:41
he was like, yeah, it's fine. It's
24:43
fine. I mean, it wasn't, he couldn't
24:45
finally until, oh my God. I
24:47
mean, he was homeless when he got that looked into.
24:50
But the thing was totally gnarly like to look
24:52
at it, you would have never known it
24:54
was a mole. It had been probably since
24:56
2003 that it started doing different things, but
24:58
it probably wasn't until I'm going to say,
25:00
Wes was still alive when he first got
25:02
that worked on. So probably 2015 or
25:05
2016 before he actually went through with a surgery
25:07
and stuff on it, which he was doing better
25:09
with the drugs and all that. And then he
25:11
had that surgery. And then of course, you know,
25:14
the pain medicine just kind of put him right
25:16
back into it. They said it was really deep
25:18
and that he probably should have been there many
25:20
years prior. He had said that it was considered
25:22
a stage three C, which when I looked up
25:24
was pretty much as bad as you
25:26
can get on it. The prognosis was five, 10
25:28
years max with that. So they were
25:31
doing what's called immunotherapy. He said it was
25:33
so painful getting that and he had a pain in his
25:35
leg and you know, they told him, you know, you're
25:37
going to have it the rest of your life. And he said, my God,
25:39
I would have rather just died from it
25:41
than dealing with this pain. If he walked
25:43
too much, he would get almost, it almost
25:45
looked kind of like elephant tight as like,
25:47
I mean, his leg and foot would swell
25:49
so bad. And it wasn't even that much
25:52
of a distance. He had to walk for
25:54
that to happen. So that really hindered him
25:56
big time. And then of course, his lifestyle
25:58
didn't help. want
48:00
any bad things to happen because of it but
48:02
she said that Wayne had told her husband that
48:04
he really missed Chris but he was glad he
48:07
had his phone. And I'm like okay so you
48:09
know I told the police about it and they're
48:11
like well you know it's Wayne you know we'll
48:13
just watch him you know there's not much we
48:15
can do it's just hearsay again. They'd say nothing
48:18
ever came of it but again multiple fingers are
48:20
pointing towards Wayne and they say that Wayne brought
48:22
up to them that he's like yeah people were
48:24
saying that I buried Chris in Fair Hill and
48:27
they're like well digit he's like oh why would
48:29
I do that. The morning before he went missing
48:31
this guy named which
48:33
was friends with Wayne he had told me because I
48:36
reached out to him and he said
48:38
he didn't blame me for calling him he said heck
48:40
I'd be turned in every rock. He said that he
48:42
had fed him breakfast the morning before and that Chris
48:44
had talked about selling his pills. I
48:46
don't know what pills those would have
48:48
been that was the last thing he
48:50
knew kind of strange there and then
48:52
Wayne he's literally the only place and
48:55
person I have never gone to. I
48:57
mean through Chris's disappearance I have searched
48:59
multiple wooded areas I went kayaking to
49:01
search along the stream. I even
49:03
took a guy that lived next door
49:05
to Bill and Sue. I actually took him somewhere
49:07
to get drugs because he said he would give
49:09
me information if I did that. So I did
49:11
that but Wayne I would not go to because
49:14
I know the the violent magnitude and no I
49:16
don't feel safe going there and questioning him myself
49:19
even though Wayne knew who I was he met me before.
49:22
Earlier Brian mentioned a time that Chris
49:24
was hospitalized years before he disappeared and
49:26
he almost died. It was during that
49:29
hospitalization that Sarah met Wayne. When
49:32
Chris had almost died he was in Union Hospital I
49:34
had gone in to see him and I'm like who
49:36
the heck is this? I think he was in there
49:38
when I got there because I remember him leaving and
49:40
I said to Chris who in the world is that
49:42
and why are you hooked up with this old guy?
49:45
I mean he was much older than Chris and I
49:47
was like oh my god I'm like Chris he's always
49:49
just a friend of mine. I'm like okay weird. He
49:51
ended up being flown to University of Maryland because he
49:53
was sepsis. We thought we were going to lose him.
49:56
I mean they had him intubated for quite some time.
49:58
They just said you know it's a matter of
50:00
time. see if he comes out of it and
50:02
I just kept being with him every day and
50:05
the one day I just I was looking at
50:07
his phone and I saw that he had music
50:09
downloaded on there. I was like, what song should
50:11
I play? I'm like, oh, this is his favorite
50:13
Pearl Jam song. I'm going to play it. It
50:15
was the song Black, which my mom's like, why
50:17
in the world would you play that to him
50:19
when he's dying or fighting for his life because
50:21
it's about death. It was his favorite song, Mom.
50:24
Why wouldn't I? So I played that and he
50:26
started to mouth the lyrics and from that point
50:28
forward, he came out of it. I mean, he
50:30
had to learn to walk all over again from
50:32
being in bed that long. When he
50:34
came out of the hospital from all that, he went
50:36
and stayed with Wayne because they said he couldn't be
50:38
on the streets and I couldn't have him where I
50:41
was. Wayne said he could stay with him while he
50:43
recovered. But after all that, Wayne was violent with him
50:45
during that. He kind of estranged himself from him more
50:47
because I actually picked him up. He called me very
50:49
upset and I said, well, we need to call the
50:52
police. He's like, no, no, no reporting and they're reporting
50:54
it. And so that was the thing on the police
50:56
when I said that they had a violent past. He
50:58
said, well, since there's no police reports, we go on
51:00
that. Again, it's hearsay. And then I guess was slowly
51:03
talking to him towards the end and stayed with him
51:05
a few times. That's when was
51:07
with them. Bill and Sue said that he had
51:09
to be out by the 30th and he wasn't
51:11
sure what he was going to do. Never seen
51:14
again. Never heard from nothing. Sue was the only
51:16
one that said that she knew he had contacted
51:18
Wayne, which I thought was bizarre. While
51:20
researching Chris's disappearance, we
51:23
submitted a record request to the Elgden
51:25
police department and also contacted both the
51:27
current and former investigators on Chris's case
51:29
to request an interview. Our record request
51:31
was granted. And we also heard back
51:33
from the former investigator, detective Shannon calmly,
51:35
who said, thank you for taking the
51:37
time to look into this case. Chris
51:39
Dietrich and his family have been on
51:41
my heart since I was first assigned
51:43
this case. I would be willing to
51:45
speak with you about the case. However,
51:48
she wasn't able to get permission for
51:50
me to use her voice on the
51:52
podcast. So I'll go over some of
51:54
what we discussed during our conversation. She
51:56
explained that cases like Chris's are exceptionally
51:58
difficult to work with. on because Chris
52:00
was homeless and really had nothing to
52:02
trace besides his phone. He didn't use
52:05
a bank account, he didn't have a vehicle,
52:07
or even a regular schedule to check places
52:09
for surveillance footage. She said it's
52:11
like you're starting from nowhere. Detective Comley
52:13
said she tried to speak with as many
52:16
people as she could, and the records reflect
52:18
that she did speak to tons of people.
52:20
But the fact that Chris's loved ones didn't
52:22
know who he interacted with on the streets
52:24
made things even more complicated. When
52:27
Detective Comley did find people who knew
52:29
and interacted with Chris on a regular
52:31
basis, many of them were heavy drug
52:33
users, and they couldn't even recall what
52:35
day it was or when they had
52:38
last seen Chris, which made tracking down
52:40
dates and times nearly impossible. Some of
52:42
the people also had significant intellectual disabilities.
52:45
In the records we received, we found
52:47
that one woman, whom we've chosen not
52:49
to identify, seemed to come under suspicion
52:51
at one point in the investigation. She
52:54
said that she sometimes let Chris stay with her at
52:56
her home in Elkton. She had allegedly
52:58
made various statements to others about seeing Chris
53:00
in Philadelphia after he went missing, and she
53:02
was in possession of some of his medical
53:05
records. When officers visited her home,
53:07
she would speak to them, but quickly shut
53:09
the door behind her, almost as if she
53:11
had something to hide. Her name
53:14
kept coming up from various sources,
53:16
and in November of 2019, investigators
53:18
obtained a search warrant for her
53:20
home. During the search, she
53:22
was temporarily detained and interviewed by
53:24
Detective Comley. It became clear
53:27
during that interview that she had
53:29
significant intellectual disabilities. She was
53:31
being taken advantage of by a group of locals.
53:33
Chris wasn't one of these people. He seemed to
53:35
look after her as much as he could, and
53:37
she considered him to be like a brother to
53:39
her. Other people were using her to
53:42
sell drugs out of her home and threatened her
53:44
to keep her quiet and allow this to continue.
53:46
For her safety, Detective Comley told her to
53:48
inform these people that the police were
53:50
watching her house and had installed a
53:52
camera. While speaking to Detective
53:55
Comley, she said that Chris's case actually
53:57
helped this woman. They were unaware that this
53:59
was going to be a on prior to investigating
54:01
Chris's disappearance, and this gave them an
54:03
opportunity to contact her family and connect
54:06
her with resources so they could remove
54:08
her from that situation to someplace safer.
54:11
While some of the statements this woman had
54:13
made seemed suspicious, after speaking with
54:15
her it was clear that she had nothing to
54:18
do with Chris's disappearance. One thing
54:20
that stood out to Detective Comley throughout the
54:22
course of the investigation was that no
54:24
one ever had a bad thing to say about Chris. Late
54:27
living homeless and addicted to drugs, she couldn't
54:29
find anyone who had significant issues with him
54:31
or a motive to harm Chris. Everyone
54:34
said that he was friendly to them, helped
54:36
them out when and where he could, and
54:39
he wasn't involved in any violent crime or
54:41
high-level drug trafficking. Going back
54:43
to the very beginning, the main piece of
54:45
evidence they have is that video of Chris at the
54:47
health department on May 30th. He
54:49
walked up to the entrance with two people. The
54:51
others sat on a bench while Chris went inside.
54:54
After several minutes, Chris emerged from the doors and
54:56
the three walked out of view together. Those
54:59
two people, who described themselves as friends of
55:01
Chris, were interviewed and they said that Chris
55:03
was going to buy drugs, but he didn't
55:05
mention where or from whom. They
55:08
said they continued walking together for a short
55:10
period of time, then parted ways. Earlier
55:13
you heard Sarah mention that there was a call on
55:15
Chris's phone that was strange. When
55:17
an investigator called the number, the person said
55:19
they had spoken to Chris about a barbecue.
55:22
That seemed weird. We asked Detective
55:24
Conley about this and if she thought it was
55:26
significant, she said she believes it was someone who
55:28
didn't want to talk with the police and
55:31
made something up to distance themselves from the
55:33
situation, likely due to their own involvement in
55:35
the drug world. In a
55:37
follow-up call with Sarah, she explained that initially,
55:39
the police called the number and it was
55:41
a man who told them the barbecue story.
55:44
Sarah tried the number herself and she
55:46
too said a man answered, but during
55:48
the conversation, a woman in the background
55:50
spoke up and said she remembered Chris
55:52
from school. Fast forward to
55:54
2024, Sarah spoke to this woman
55:56
again and she's since gone to
55:58
treatment. that she knew Chris
56:01
for years and spoke with him often in
56:03
the lead-up to his disappearance. She
56:05
claimed that the last time she saw
56:07
Chris, he had mentioned that he had
56:09
ripped off the Pagans, which is an
56:12
outlaw motorcycle gang. According to the Department
56:14
of Justice, outlaw motorcycle gangs are highly
56:16
structured criminal organizations whose members engage in
56:19
criminal activities such as violent crime, weapons
56:21
trafficking, and drug trafficking. There are more
56:23
than 300 active outlaw
56:25
motorcycle gangs within the United States, ranging
56:28
in size from single chapters with five
56:30
or six members to hundreds of chapters
56:32
with thousands of members worldwide. Throughout the
56:34
records we received, there were several mentions
56:36
of the Pagans Motorcycle Club. Witnesses reported
56:38
hearing that Chris had ripped off the
56:40
Pagans and his disappearance was an act
56:43
of revenge. There was a story about
56:45
a man who wanted to purchase a
56:47
large amount of crystal meth. Allegedly, Chris
56:49
said he knew someone. So they went
56:51
together to meet this individual but got
56:53
held up at gunpoint. The witness said
56:56
that they took his gun and money.
56:58
They got the $100 from his pocket
57:00
but they didn't know he had $5,000
57:03
strapped to his chest. When this
57:05
witness was asked about the Pagan connection, he
57:07
claimed he was buying drugs for a Pagan
57:10
that day. However, since he didn't lose the
57:12
$5,000, he and Chris weren't
57:15
in trouble. He was able to
57:17
name one of the individuals involved in
57:19
this incident and identify their photo, though
57:21
the person he identified has since passed
57:23
away. He believed that they were held
57:25
up in the spring of 2019, which
57:28
would have been in the lead up to Chris'
57:30
disappearance. Some people described this
57:32
eyewitness as having significant mental health issues
57:34
and that he said he had connections
57:36
with the Pagans in Pennsylvania but they
57:38
thought he was boasting because he wanted
57:40
attention, respect, and to be feared by
57:43
others. We asked Detective Comley
57:45
about this and if she believed that
57:47
this incident actually happened. She said that
57:49
while the story is difficult to believe,
57:51
this witness was able to identify one
57:53
of the people whom he claimed held
57:55
him up. And generally, people are more
57:57
vague with their descriptions when fabricating a
58:00
st- story, and these kinds of incidents
58:02
do happen often in Elkhden. Though it
58:04
sounded like this happened months earlier, and
58:06
the witness couldn't even recall the address,
58:08
making it very difficult to prove that
58:10
it had happened. While Detective
58:12
Conley was investigating Chris's disappearance, she said
58:14
she never uncovered a direct link between
58:16
Chris and the Pagans motorcycle club. While
58:18
Chris may have bought and sold small
58:21
amounts of drugs in Elkhden to support
58:23
his own habit, he wasn't a big
58:25
dealer and someone who would have come
58:27
up on the Pagans' radar, and
58:29
that this lead ended up serving as more of
58:31
a distraction than anything else. And
58:34
that brings us back to someone Sarah mentioned
58:36
several minutes ago, Wayne. Early
58:38
on in the investigation, they tracked Wayne down, and
58:40
he stated that he hadn't seen Chris in days,
58:42
but he recalled that Chris didn't look well the
58:44
last time he had seen him. Wayne
58:47
said that he would contact the police department if he
58:49
heard anything. Fast forward to
58:51
April of 2020, nearly a year
58:54
after Chris disappeared. A woman contacted
58:56
the Elkhden police department because she
58:58
said her daughter had found Chris's
59:00
Maryland identification card. She said
59:02
that Wayne had stopped by her home to bring her a
59:04
beer. Later, her daughter noticed a
59:07
wallet on the steps that must have fallen
59:09
out of Wayne's pocket. They
59:11
looked inside and found Chris's ID card. They
59:13
returned the wallet but kept the card after
59:15
doing a search online and finding out that
59:17
Chris was a missing person. This
59:20
certainly was strange. Why would Wayne
59:22
have Chris's ID? After several
59:24
attempts to speak to Wayne, they finally caught up
59:26
with him in June of They
59:29
asked Wayne about having Chris's ID in his wallet,
59:31
and he went to retrieve his wallet to show
59:33
them. He hadn't realized that it was
59:35
no longer inside. Wayne explained that Chris
59:37
had left the ID there a long time ago and
59:40
asked him to hang on to it so he didn't
59:42
lose it. He put it in his wallet
59:44
and never thought about it again. They
59:46
asked Wayne if he knew anything about what happened to
59:48
Chris. He said that he only
59:50
heard rumors on the streets about Chris's body being
59:52
in a dam because he stole guns from the
59:54
pagans. The report goes on to say,
1:00:00
he had hurt Chris. Wayne didn't
1:00:02
have any reaction to what I asked, except
1:00:04
to say he had no reason to hurt
1:00:06
Chris. Wayne said he heard people
1:00:08
say that Wayne had buried Chris up behind
1:00:10
a church in Fair Hill, but Wayne
1:00:12
denied this. I asked Wayne
1:00:14
if he buried Chris anywhere and he said no.
1:00:16
I asked Wayne if he would tell me if
1:00:18
he did bury Chris somewhere and he said he
1:00:21
would. Wayne seemed to laugh
1:00:23
the questions off and didn't seem nervous
1:00:25
or bothered by the questions whatsoever. Wayne
1:00:28
went on to say that he had let Chris stay
1:00:30
with him for a week or two in May of
1:00:32
2019. He caught him using drugs
1:00:34
at his residence and Wayne said he couldn't
1:00:36
have that stuff at his house because he
1:00:38
feared he would lose his funding for his
1:00:40
federal housing. He caught Chris a second
1:00:42
time and asked him to leave. To
1:00:45
the best of his recollection, it was about a
1:00:47
week later that Chris was reported missing. He
1:00:49
said that Chris was his friend and he missed
1:00:52
him dearly. He wouldn't have killed Chris because he
1:00:54
cared for him. Sarah finds it
1:00:56
strange that Wayne had Chris's ID. Chris
1:00:58
didn't have a bank account and needed
1:01:01
his identification to cash his disability checks
1:01:03
and also possibly needed that ID for
1:01:05
his doctor appointments as well. What
1:01:07
we learned about Wayne is that he has some
1:01:09
disabilities and drinks quite a bit. Detective
1:01:12
Connelly said that she doesn't believe that Wayne
1:01:14
would have been capable of successfully covering up
1:01:16
a murder. It appears that Chris
1:01:18
did leave things with some people, like the
1:01:20
other woman who had his medical records. And
1:01:23
it is possible that Wayne having his ID was
1:01:25
as innocent as he claimed during his interview. Throughout
1:01:28
the investigation, they received many tips from people
1:01:30
saying they had seen Chris in Philadelphia or
1:01:33
at a Wawa or a shelter, but none
1:01:35
of them ever panned out. Detective
1:01:37
Connelly said that she searched every possible
1:01:39
place she could think of. She went
1:01:41
out on an all terrain vehicle every
1:01:43
chance she had looking through all areas
1:01:45
of town. She's gone out with teams
1:01:47
even, but she's never found a trace
1:01:50
of Chris. She also hasn't
1:01:52
uncovered any evidence pointing to foul play
1:01:54
in this case. And it's important
1:01:56
to note here that no one has ever been
1:01:58
officially named a person of interest. Looking
1:02:00
back at everything now, Shiloh believes that Chris
1:02:03
was at a really low point in his
1:02:05
life shortly before he went missing. At
1:02:07
first, she thought Chris may have ended his own
1:02:09
life. Though had that been the
1:02:11
case, she thought that Chris would have been
1:02:14
found in the weeks and months following his
1:02:16
disappearance. I would
1:02:18
say this time around, right before he went
1:02:20
missing, he was very down. I
1:02:23
don't think he liked the fact that he wasn't around the kids as
1:02:25
much as he could. I would take them
1:02:27
and we would meet him for lunch at different
1:02:29
places and stuff like that. So they did still
1:02:31
see their dad. I always made sure they had
1:02:33
a way to see him. But I just think
1:02:35
he felt like a failure when it came to
1:02:38
them. So he was very depressed about that. Originally,
1:02:40
I thought if anything happened that maybe he
1:02:42
did something to himself because he was just
1:02:44
getting tired of the cancer, I think, and
1:02:47
very down. So I was worried that he had done something
1:02:49
to himself. Maybe it was a
1:02:51
balance spiral that went too far. I
1:02:53
know when he was in the hospital, he had said
1:02:55
that they found spots on his lungs,
1:02:57
but they couldn't biopsy because they were afraid he
1:03:00
was too fragile, that they didn't want anything to
1:03:02
happen to his lungs, so they couldn't biopsy. And
1:03:04
I was just thinking to myself, maybe it was
1:03:06
more than that. Maybe they really did find something
1:03:08
and they were able to see what it was.
1:03:11
Like I said, he has his ups and downs.
1:03:13
So he has made comments in the past where
1:03:16
he was really down or whatnot, but never
1:03:18
anything to where I really thought he would do it. I
1:03:20
think he would self-destruct, but not a purposeful,
1:03:23
let's do this and end it. He wasn't
1:03:25
working. He was sick. He was
1:03:27
going to treatment. When he worked, he seemed
1:03:29
to have a purpose. Things
1:03:31
were okay because he was working at the
1:03:33
food line and the meat department and he
1:03:36
was doing really good. And then he had
1:03:38
hurt his arm and he couldn't work for
1:03:40
a while. And then it seemed like kind
1:03:42
of went downhill again. My initial
1:03:44
thought was he did something to himself. But
1:03:46
it was actually his daughter who made the
1:03:48
comment to me that if you do what
1:03:50
we find him, that makes perfect sense. You
1:03:52
know, if he did do something, you would
1:03:54
think he would find everything after
1:03:56
her comment about that made me think a little
1:03:59
bit harder. at the fact that somebody had to
1:04:01
do something because where is he? I do think
1:04:03
he would have made some type
1:04:05
of goodbye gesture if he would have, but
1:04:07
I don't think he did. So
1:04:10
many years have gone by with no trace
1:04:12
of Chris turning up. That has pushed Shiloh
1:04:14
to think about other theories and the rumors
1:04:16
that she's heard going around town. One
1:04:19
of my theories is that he was a
1:04:21
place and they were doing stuff and
1:04:23
something happened. And instead of
1:04:25
getting in trouble, they just kind of hit
1:04:28
it. That's my landing theory is what I
1:04:30
think happened. But I don't know. I can't
1:04:32
say for sure, but that's the only thing
1:04:34
that makes sense to me. I mean, because
1:04:36
I can't imagine anyone wanting to harm them,
1:04:38
just to harm them. Most people loved Chris.
1:04:41
There's more at play, whether it was an accident
1:04:44
and then people covered up or whether
1:04:46
it was foul play. There's quite a
1:04:48
few rumors out there. I heard once
1:04:50
that it was the biker
1:04:52
group and I'm like, okay, I can't see
1:04:54
Chris ever dealing with them, but okay. That
1:04:56
it was some people who he was hanging
1:04:59
out with that they did it over drugs.
1:05:01
Could it have happened? Maybe, but his personality,
1:05:03
I just don't see it. I don't. That's
1:05:05
not to say it didn't happen, but if
1:05:08
he had just walked away, we would have found
1:05:10
something because he would have had to go get
1:05:12
help somewhere else for the cancer treatment and he
1:05:14
didn't. So even if he did just walk
1:05:16
away, he would have passed away by now anyway from not
1:05:18
getting his help. Chris's
1:05:20
friend Larry said that he's realistic about all
1:05:23
of the possibilities and ultimately just wants his
1:05:25
friend to be found. What's
1:05:27
crazy is Chris would never harm a fly
1:05:30
for him to be murdered or something like
1:05:32
that. I don't ever see happening. If anything,
1:05:36
what I think is those tent cities that are
1:05:38
out in the middle of the creeks and stuff
1:05:40
down in Alton, I think he might have OD'd
1:05:42
and they might have pushed his body into the
1:05:45
creek or something like that. You never know. He
1:05:48
could have got a ride back down in the
1:05:50
Eastern shore and something happened. I don't know. I
1:05:52
think it's crazy that he's just vanished without a
1:05:54
trace. I don't see Chris harming himself. He would
1:05:57
always want to be around for his kids and
1:05:59
even Chyla. I mean, he loved Shiloh
1:06:01
to death. They just weren't meant for each other,
1:06:03
you know. And the way that he loved his
1:06:05
sister was second to none. A
1:06:08
lot of us that worked with him still work together or
1:06:10
keep in contact. There
1:06:12
was a good group of us. We worked at
1:06:14
the same places, the same warehouses around here, so
1:06:17
we still keep in contact. So it's like the,
1:06:19
what the hell, what, you know, did you
1:06:21
hear about Chris? It's like, yeah, I can't
1:06:24
believe that they haven't found anything about it.
1:06:26
But Chris was a great guy and his
1:06:28
family loves and misses him. To have closure
1:06:31
is important. I mean, this is any town
1:06:33
USA. Elkton, Cecil County, it's
1:06:35
any town USA. Like the Oopoid
1:06:38
and Fentanyl amathemic across this country is
1:06:40
in any, in every town. But it's
1:06:42
beautiful country out here. Like we have
1:06:44
creeks, we have rivers, we have woods
1:06:46
that are, that are miles and miles
1:06:48
deep. So where he was
1:06:50
whenever he went missing or something went
1:06:53
wrong, who knows? That's
1:06:55
my thought of it. I think he
1:06:57
might OD somebody knew about it. And
1:06:59
instead of ruining their spot, they might've
1:07:02
pushed him off to the side. Chris
1:07:04
was a very impactful
1:07:06
person on my life and my children's
1:07:08
lives. Not only one of my best
1:07:10
friends for the longest time, but he was
1:07:13
family. And I still remember
1:07:15
his laugh and his smile. I miss
1:07:17
my friend. And if anybody
1:07:20
does know anything, I think they should come forward.
1:07:23
There are so few clues to go on.
1:07:25
Chris walked away from the health department and
1:07:27
there isn't much more than that besides town
1:07:29
rumors. This has been a frustration for
1:07:31
Pam. She doesn't know what may have happened to
1:07:33
her son. I thought
1:07:36
that it was foul play. But then
1:07:38
it's really hard to say because
1:07:40
when, when you think of the
1:07:42
people that he spent time with,
1:07:44
I heard all kinds of different
1:07:47
theories, but he spent time with
1:07:49
people that if something happened to
1:07:51
him, and let's say overdosed, they
1:07:53
probably wouldn't have taken him
1:07:55
off and done anything with him. But
1:07:57
I still think it's just so hard
1:07:59
to
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