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There
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is something fishy going on because
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it's not lining up. There's nothing about
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this missing case that's textbook anything.
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There's something that happened that we're not privy
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to. Just the whole thing
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just doesn't sound right. Something's not sitting
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right with me, never has and probably never
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will.
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The grief doesn't get easier but
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you grow around it and you learn how to deal with
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it. And it's always like looking over your
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shoulder like expecting them to be there or dreams
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are the worst.
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I've had dreams like he's
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just suddenly back. We hope he is
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out there somewhere and we're not going to stop looking.
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We don't care what has happened since we just
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hope that he comes home. That he
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knows how much we love him and how much we
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miss
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him.
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By May of 2022, 33-year-old
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Christopher Hoy was living in Dixon, Missouri,
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along with his wife and their blended
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family. They had relocated from
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Illinois to try to live a more simple life,
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homesteading. On
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May 19, 2022, things seemed to be going
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like any usual day on the farm. There
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were animals to tend to and the kids were
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running around. Chris and his wife,
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Alicia, were divvying up their chores. Alicia
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says that she went outside to milk their goats
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and
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while she was gone, Chris disappeared.
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She said that she could hear his truck start up but
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she wasn't close enough to see anything. When
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she finished up with the goats and returned to the
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house, something didn't seem right. Chris'
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truck was gone, the gate was left open
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and Chris' wallet and phone were left at the house.
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Hoping that Chris had just left for a quick errand.
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Alicia waited but Chris never came
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back. A couple of hours later.
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Alicia decided to go out looking for him and
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found his truck abandoned not far from
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their home. Despite extensive
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searches of that area, no trace
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of Chris Hoy has ever been found. I'm
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Chris was born to Dan and Tina Hoy
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on March 16th, 1989.
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They later had a daughter, Ashley. Chris
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and his sister Ashley grew up in Illinois
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and seemed to have an average childhood.
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Chris's mother passed away several years ago
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after a battle with cancer, but
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we were able to speak with Chris's father, Dan,
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about his son's early years. He's
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the oldest. He was two years older
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than Ashley, so he kind of looked out for her when they
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were going through school, so it was a good thing.
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pretty bright kid. Well he was into sports
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quite a bit. He liked baseball so
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we started him off fairly early playing
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tee ball and then little league
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and then he got to be a pitcher, a pretty good
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pitcher when he was in high school. They went to
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the championship and
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he was the starting pitcher so he
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liked sports. I took him to quite
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a few Cubs games. We put him through Christian
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schools until he was eighth grade.
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Then he wanted to go to a regular high school which
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we ended up sending both
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Chris and Ashley when they got freshman year. We
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sent him to Peking High School and
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that's where he really got into playing baseball
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and got to be like I said a pretty good pitcher.
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Dan explained that as Chris got older his
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interest shifted and he had a real talent
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for working on vehicles and machining.
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He seemed to really enjoy hands-on work.
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He also was a pretty good mechanic too.
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He'd get cars and trucks and
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repair them and he did all his own
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truck repairs. He liked that. He went to
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school for Caterpillar Diesel so
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he enjoyed working on cars and trucks.
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I got him in. I worked at Illinois
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Machine and Tool for a long time
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as a machinist. I got him in there and
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he continued being a machinist for years.
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He always had a job and he liked
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woodworking too because I was doing a
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lot of woodworking. He enjoyed doing that. He'd be
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down at my shop and he'd be out there with me so
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a lot of hands-on stuff he liked
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and he was pretty smart at math too. Yeah
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you got to know trigonometry and geometry to
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be a good machinist and he was a good machinist.
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Speaking with Chris's aunt Teresa
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she gave us a similar picture of Chris.
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They had a close relationship over the years
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and Chris confided in her about his dreams
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and struggles.
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As a child he was goofy.
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He was happy and as he was growing
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up of course he was in a teenage
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years where he was raised
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in a Christian family. So as
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teenage years he was kind of rebelling
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a little bit. Then when he
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got older, like graduated
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and stuff, he did leave home
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and live in his truck
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for a while. And then he lived
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with me for a couple months. And
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then he went back home with his mom and dad.
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He's always been a worker,
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always had dreams of having a homestead
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in the country with animals and
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lots of children. And his skills
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are just like his father's,
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my brother Dan. They can operate
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machines. And besides
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that with all kinds of different machines,
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they have the skill
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of carpentry, building
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things. He remodeled some
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of his houses. He did all of his houses
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by himself, remodeling him.
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Chris is very smart. I mean, very smart.
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And he did good. I mean, when he remodeled, he did
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an excellent job. When he ran the machines,
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because I actually worked with him at
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Caterpillar, he was on one side of the wall
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and I was on the other side of the wall. He
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was a good machinist. He knew what he was doing.
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So he's kind of like the rest of us on
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the hoist side. He was happy.
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Sometimes if he didn't get his way, he wasn't.
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And if you let it get to him, then
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he would kind of, I don't know, he'd be
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grouchy or he'd be
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sad. He would never say he was sad.
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Years
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ago, Chris was in a long-term relationship
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with a woman named Cynthia. The two
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had a son and daughter together.
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Dan told us that this relationship was volatile.
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And didn't last or end well. Nobody
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in the family likes Cynthia on my
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side. She was a jealous,
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overprotective woman.
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My first wife had cancer. And
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we were sitting at home one time
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when they came over. They had
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just gotten there. I'd say probably about 15 minutes. And
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Cynthia kept hitting Chris and looking
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at the watch and showing him stuff on
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Facebook. And it was some kind of barbecue
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she wanted to go to. Well, Chris was there talking
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to his mom and she just kept pestering
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for about a half an hour. And he finally ended up just getting there. up
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and walking out. I mean, she was just like that. It was
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pretty much all about her.
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Yeah, and she would constantly hit him. I mean,
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my wife's sister,
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they came down to visit her, and she
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said she about jumped up one time and grabbed
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all the Cynthia because she swung and hit Chris
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in the shoulder real hard because she got mad. She
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was just that kind of person. What
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he saw in her, I have no idea.
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After they split, we were told that Chris had
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primary custody of the children. Although,
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we'd like to acknowledge that we weren't able to establish
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contact with Chris's ex, so
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we don't have her side of the story on
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how this relationship ended or how
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Chris came to have primary custody of
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the kids.
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In 2017, Chris met his current wife, Alicia.
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Dan felt that Alicia was a much
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better match for his son. He
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got together with her. I
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believe it was in Washburn.
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I had seen her a couple times and
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then I lived in Peking and he worked at Caterpillar
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and he was working second shifts. So
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he would bring the kids over
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for me to watch during the day.
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He brought her over a couple times and
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she seemed like a really nice girl. I mean, I
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really like Alicia.
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We went out to dinner a few times. I
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mean, just we saw each other.
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I thought she was just 100 times
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better than Cynthia was. I
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didn't know her that well.
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She came over to my house a few times and
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I met her a few times over in Washburn and she
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seemed like a good girl. I didn't see anything
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volatile at all.
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Chris and Alicia's family seemed to mesh
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well. Alicia had an older daughter,
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Zoe, from a previous relationship
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and Chris had the two younger kids. We're
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bleeping out the names of Chris's children from
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the previous relationship in this episode
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due to privacy concerns and also
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because there's an active custody dispute
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over Chris's two older children, which
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we will get to later on.
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Dan told us that Chris, Alicia, and all
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of the children seemed like one big Happy
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Family.
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We also spoke to Alicia, and she
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recalled how she and Chris bumped into each
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other one day. Alicia wasn't looking
10:31
to meet anyone at that time, but
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she found Chris to be charming.
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We met in November of 2017 at Sue's place. It's
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a bar. I was meeting
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a friend of mine there to play pool, and I got
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there early, and he was there, and he tried
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chatting me up and all that, and I was just there to meet my friend
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to play pool, so I didn't really care
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to engage. And so I kind
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of gave him the cold shoulder, and he would
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laugh at me to this day about that.
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But then he started talking about his kids, and I started
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becoming interested to them, especially the teachers. He
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was talking about how his three-year-old needed extra
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help. We talked, and when my friend
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got there, we played pool, and he kind of came
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over and bought me drinks. It was a
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great night. Every day since then,
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I was with him. He's the biggest extrovert
11:17
ever. He's the complete opposite of
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me. He made friends easily. He
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was always there to help. He was the best dad
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I could ever imagine.
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He was smart, very intelligent. He
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loved to build things, fix things. He
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had his own business. He was notary. He
11:34
became a realtor. So that kind of personality,
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you know, where he was outgoing, and everyone
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loved him.
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When Chris and Alicia met, she had her older
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daughter, Zoe, from a previous relationship,
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and Chris had his two younger children. Chris
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and Alicia later had another daughter together.
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We spoke to Chris's stepdaughter, Zoe, and
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she told us that Chris quickly jumped into the
11:55
father role in her life and had a
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meaningful impact on her during her
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teen year.
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I call him my
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dad. When I first met him, he
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was very, he was just very easygoing.
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I was 15. When me and my mom
12:09
had lived with my grandma before she met him, we
12:11
weren't in the greatest situation.
12:14
He was just very open and accepting. From
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the get go, I feel like he knew I just
12:18
wouldn't trust people right off
12:20
the bat. He just was loving. He
12:23
didn't have to do anything that he did, but he
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opened his arms, he opened his home. His
12:27
kids are my siblings. I love them.
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And
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I love him like he was my own father. I'm like, he
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is to me. The
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longer that they were together, they
12:36
always knew what the other was thinking. They always knew
12:38
what the other was going to do. They were so
12:40
close.
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He's a very outdoorsy person. He and
12:43
my mom always had a lot of projects going like
12:45
they were either fixing the house, they were
12:48
doing stuff for their business,
12:50
doing stuff with us kids, like we were always
12:52
on the move. We were always doing stuff.
12:54
He is surely the best person I could
12:56
have asked for, for a dad. He tried
12:59
so hard to make sure like we
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had everything we needed.
13:03
There would be mornings where because I was
13:05
home schooled before I went to public school with
13:07
a mom and Chris, they put me in public school
13:09
because they gave me an option. You can either keep home schooling
13:12
and you can stay here and do all your work and we'll help you.
13:14
Or you can go to public school and public school
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is always something I always wanted to do because
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I was sick of staying at home with no one.
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I was in public school and
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there were days where I would wake up and
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I was in the worst mood. I just wasn't feeling it. I'd
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be honest with Chris. I'm like, hey, can I stay
13:30
home from school today? It is a bad day. He's
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like, yeah, sure. I'll call the school and let them know.
13:34
Then we would hang out for the day. We would go
13:36
do stuff. I would help him with what he needed help
13:39
with. He would help me.
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Prior to his marriage to Alicia, Teresa
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had witnessed Chris and her relationships with
13:45
people who just weren't good for him, but
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she really felt that Chris had a bright future ahead
13:50
of him with Alicia.
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Before he got married to Alicia,
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I think Alicia is the best thing for him.
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He just seemed to pick the wrong people.
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to be with
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and that, you know, sometimes wrong
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people can gravitate towards you.
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Chris had worked as a realtor. He
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purchased some homes, fixed them up, and
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rented them out as a source of income.
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He was doing well, their family was happy
14:16
together, he had everything that he had ever
14:18
wanted and more. His goal was
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to have enough properties that he could retire
14:22
and live off of the passive income from his
14:25
rentals by the time that he was 40.
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But in 2020, the COVID-19
14:29
pandemic hit. Chris was losing
14:32
money and they were finding it nearly impossible
14:34
to keep up with the bills that were piling up.
14:36
He had a couple of
14:38
rentals, bought some houses, helped me buy
14:41
my first house.
14:42
He was making pretty
14:43
good money. He also became a realtor
14:46
at that time in Peoria, sold I think five
14:48
houses and netted over a million
14:50
for the company. But yeah, he was making
14:53
really good money. He was
14:54
doing things, you know, and then COVID hit.
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Since COVID happened, businesses
14:59
were shut down. We had to make a hard decision. We had
15:01
to either, you know, let everything
15:03
go and
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find a place we could afford and build what we
15:07
could, or we could stay where we were at
15:10
and lose everything. Because we lost 10
15:12
grand a month during the pandemic.
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So we took what we had and we moved here to Missouri.
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Unable to keep up with the mortgages on his rental
15:20
properties, they eventually went into
15:23
foreclosure. This was a real blow
15:25
to Chris. He had planned on building
15:27
his wealth to care for his family and have
15:29
something to pass on to them. But it all
15:31
seemed to slip away so quickly. They
15:34
made the decision to pick up a move from Illinois
15:36
to Missouri. They purchased a farm
15:38
and decided to try homesteading.
15:40
By this time, Zoe was an adult
15:43
and stayed back in Illinois with her fiancé,
15:45
Blake. Zoe and Blake would often
15:47
make trips to the farm in Missouri. And
15:49
Zoe says that Chris seemed happy with the more
15:51
simple life they were building there.
15:54
They bought this house in 2020 and they fixed
15:56
it up so much from
15:58
what it had looked like when they bought it.
15:59
Obviously they had all their farm animals,
16:02
the cows, the goats, chickens, all of
16:04
the birds. He had like odd jobs every
16:06
once in a while, but he was mostly a stay-at-home dad. Me
16:09
and Blake came here to visit. Mom
16:11
would take off days and we would just
16:13
try to all spend time together. Like we'd play Monopoly.
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Every time we came down, Chris was so proud
16:19
of this farm. Like he would show us around. He
16:21
would show us the animals, what they've been doing,
16:23
their garden, how the kids
16:26
are doing now, like how much they've grown since we've
16:28
seen them last.
16:30
While this wasn't the path that Chris had envisioned
16:32
for himself and his family, it was
16:34
a fresh start for them and he seemed to enjoy
16:37
it. But
16:39
on May 19, 2022, Chris mysteriously
16:41
vanished from his home in Dixon, Missouri.
16:44
Chris and Alicia spent their days working on the farm
16:46
together and homeschooling their children.
16:49
Their days were full of chores that needed
16:51
to be done. Alicia told us about
16:54
that day.
16:55
He left the house without a word at 6.30
16:57
on Thursday, May 19. He
17:00
never does that. He always tells me he loves me
17:02
to give the kids a kiss. He always tells me
17:04
where he's going. And he didn't do that this time.
17:07
I went down to milk our goats and then I
17:09
heard the truck start up and he left. And he left
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said, no. I said, all right, well, okay.
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I said, I'm gonna go get stuff ready to milk. And he
22:11
said, okay, baby. He went and he got out of the shower
22:13
and got dressed. I was in the kitchen. He came
22:15
up to me and I said, hey, I'm gonna go milk. He's
22:17
like, all right, baby. I'm gonna go downstairs. And
22:20
it was at that point that he left. He
22:22
didn't tell me he was leaving. He didn't tell me where
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he's going.
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The way that Chris left that day didn't sit
22:28
right with Alicia. She said there wasn't
22:30
an argument. Things seemed normal.
22:32
She had just left the house to go milk their goats
22:35
when she heard his truck start up and drive off.
22:37
Chris had left his phone and wallet behind
22:39
in the house. She had no way to reach
22:42
him.
22:42
She instantly got a bad feeling about this
22:45
and called Zoe back in Illinois.
22:48
I said, hey, you know, I said, Chris just left.
22:50
She was like, okay, what did he take? And
22:52
I looked down, his
22:54
phone was left. His wallet was left. She
22:56
goes, go check the guns. And I said, I checked the guns.
22:59
I couldn't find anything that was missing. She's
23:01
like, well, just call me out. He'll be back. Chris always
23:03
comes back. But then he always told us where
23:05
he was going to. And he never went anything
23:07
anywhere without a purpose.
23:10
So we remember getting that call from her mom
23:12
like it was just yesterday, but she
23:14
tried to reassure her mother that everything
23:16
was fine. There had to be a reasonable
23:19
explanation for this. And Chris
23:21
would be back.
23:22
I was in Illinois at the time with Blake, my fiance
23:25
and my son. It was 630 and mom
23:27
had texted me and she's like, Chris just left.
23:29
I'm like, what do you mean? And she goes, he
23:32
just left. He left the gate open. He didn't say
23:34
a word. I don't know what happened. I'm
23:36
like, okay, that's weird. Maybe he just went to the store
23:39
or something. Like I just kind of wrote it off at first. You
23:40
know, it's probably something little. He
23:43
went to go grab something. He went to go help our neighbor.
23:45
He'll probably just be back in a few minutes. That's all it
23:48
is. And I think I'd put my phone down
23:50
for a little while because we had a friend over and we
23:52
were trying to cook out. I wasn't super concerned.
23:54
I didn't expect him to just leave. So I thought it would be a small
23:57
errand or something. And at 830, mom,
23:59
called me and she's like Chris isn't back I'm
24:02
scared he's not back he left his
24:04
phone his wallet nobody's heard from
24:06
him I'm scared I don't know what to do
24:08
at which point I had gone out in the garage
24:10
to talk to her it's quiet and I'm like okay
24:13
there's no friends that he could have went to she's
24:15
like no at that point I had started panicking
24:17
because he would have taken his phone if
24:20
something was wrong or anytime
24:22
he would have gone somewhere he would have taken a phone he would have
24:24
let someone know and that two hours have
24:26
passed and no one heard from him so I'm like
24:29
did he stop at any stores or anything and she
24:31
goes no his wallet's here and I'm like mom
24:33
you need to check his gun check his guns and
24:36
see if everything is there and she did and
24:38
she's like no everything looks like it's here our handguns
24:40
are here all the rifles are here
24:42
we're both crying at this point
24:45
Alicia was kind of stuck she had
24:48
three young kids there at the house and
24:50
she couldn't just leave them there alone but
24:52
she felt the need to go out and look for Chris
24:55
she was very worried so she called
24:57
a friend to come to the house and care for the children
25:00
while she went out to see if she could spot Chris
25:02
or his truck anywhere nearby about 830
25:05
I called up one of
25:08
my friends to come watch the kids because he had still
25:10
not come to home and ended up driving
25:12
down the road I just thought I had to go check the river
25:14
sure if I found his truck parked
25:16
on the access road to the river it was at least a
25:19
football field length away from the river
25:21
and it's approaching dusk so I go out
25:23
to the woods as much as I can with the phone flashlight
25:25
I holler his name you know I look in the truck
25:28
there's nothing to miss and so I texted my
25:30
friend I said I found his truck but he's not here and she
25:32
goes I need you to call 911 so I went home and
25:34
I called 911 I
25:35
reported him missing
25:37
it had been two and a half hours like I said my
25:39
husband doesn't do anything without a purpose
25:41
he doesn't just leave everything
25:43
so I knew he was gone and I don't know what
25:45
gone means at this point if he had pitched
25:48
a ride left or if he had gone
25:50
and killed himself like I don't know at this point
25:52
I don't feel like he's dead in my heart my
25:55
gut whatever you want to call it
25:57
Alicia had a bad feeling about all of this
26:00
And the police seemed to take it seriously.
26:02
Chris's truck was found close to a river.
26:05
It was an immediate concern that perhaps Chris
26:07
could have jumped or slipped in. So
26:09
they began searching the water almost immediately.
26:13
They sent someone out to the river and he looked
26:16
as much as he could, again with it being dark. Then
26:18
he came out here, took out a report, gave me the missing
26:20
person's paperwork. I filled that out. He went
26:23
back to the river and grabbed the truck key and
26:25
brought it back to me, took the paperwork and
26:27
then the next morning at 10am, they
26:30
had a search team of like 50 people searching
26:32
the woods and the river. They took it seriously.
26:35
I had a damn good detective at first. At
26:37
the end of June, he moved. I never once believed
26:39
he went in the river. I thought maybe he'd be walking
26:42
the woods, but I wasn't sure.
26:43
My other thought was, got to ride out. The
26:46
first time they searched, which was by 10 o'clock
26:48
that next morning, they did tell me they
26:50
didn't catch the scent. They did not at all.
26:53
Then 10 days later, they said they got a scent
26:55
up to the road. Nothing came
26:57
of that.
26:58
They went to the road and that was it.
27:00
I would really like to know exactly
27:01
where they've looked. They
27:04
tell me they looked from Highway 28 all
27:06
the way down to Boylan Spring Campgrounds
27:09
in the woods, but like how far up the
27:11
woods did you go? I can
27:13
see the woods from here and I know
27:16
no one came up to this road and
27:17
this is the first road past that point.
27:20
Highway patrol told me that the way that
27:22
river twists and turns so much, they have
27:24
never found a body in that river
27:26
more than five miles out.
27:29
And they have searched, they have used sonar, there's
27:31
no clothing found, there was
27:34
nothing. The river was not
27:36
far from Chris and Alicia's farm. It
27:38
was a place the family was familiar with. They
27:41
would even go down to the river in the summer to
27:43
cool off and let the kids swim.
27:45
Zoe was hours away in Illinois
27:47
and hated being away from her mom and siblings
27:50
during this uncertain time.
27:52
But she and her fiancé had recently had
27:54
a baby together. They were young parents
27:56
and money was tight. Zoe was able
27:59
to pull together enough to help her.
27:59
money to make the trip out to Dixon, but
28:02
she would have to cross that river to get there.
28:05
As she was going over the bridge that was near where
28:07
Chris's truck was found, she was overcome
28:09
with emotion and had to stop driving.
29:00
I remember a big thing for me.
29:02
I had just gotten farther away
29:04
from St. Louis, like out of the busy part, and
29:06
mom had called me and she goes, hey, when you have
29:09
a chance, call me, it's important. And I immediately
29:11
start bawling my eyes out. His
29:13
truck was down by the river. That made me panic
29:15
because, like, why was his truck down by the
29:18
river? I immediately felt all the worst
29:20
things, and I pull over to gas station like
29:22
I'm bawling my eyes out, and she's like, hey, everything
29:24
is okay. I just wanted to let you know, like,
29:27
I know you're getting closer. When you
29:29
drive by the river, don't look at it.
29:31
Just keep going. And she told me some
29:33
other facts about, like, what the detective had said and everything.
29:36
So she's like, just drive by the river. Don't stop
29:38
and look at it. Just come home. Like,
29:40
okay, you know, like, thank you for calling me.
29:43
I'm panicking, though. She's like, I'm sorry,
29:45
I didn't mean to make you panic, but everything is
29:47
okay. Of course, I didn't listen to her, and I
29:49
stopped to look at the river. Well, I pulled over
29:51
by the side of the river. I got Jackson out of the car with
29:53
me, and I had gone to the bridge, and
29:56
I'm looking over at it, and automatically
29:58
everything just gets worse because The river
30:00
is so high. I'm bawling.
30:03
I get jacked and back in the car. I drive home. And
30:05
then of course when I get here, mom's like, I told you not to
30:07
look at the river.
30:08
And I'm like, I know mom. It was
30:10
knowing what it could mean. Cause just cause
30:12
it was so high, if he did jump
30:15
or if anything had happened, the river was
30:17
so fast and so high, it would have just swept away.
30:20
That's what was happening in my mind.
30:22
Chris's father, Dan, wasn't immediately
30:24
aware that his son was missing. They
30:27
hadn't talked much in the years before Chris
30:29
disappeared. There seemed to be some
30:31
level of estrangement there. And Chris
30:33
wasn't reaching out to family much or
30:35
letting them know what was going on in his life.
30:38
So Dan was shocked when he heard from Alicia a
30:40
couple of weeks after the fact, letting
30:43
him know that Chris had vanished.
30:45
They lived down in Missouri. They lived down there for a while.
30:48
And so the communication
30:50
between me and him wasn't that good. I'll
30:52
admit that we had our issues,
30:55
but we still talked.
30:57
What he did down in Missouri, I have no idea.
31:00
Matter of fact, I really didn't know he had moved down to Missouri
31:03
until Alicia texted
31:05
me, said he was missing. I didn't even know
31:07
he's down there. And the last time me and Chris
31:09
had really spoken was when I was
31:11
getting remarried to my wife that
31:13
I have now, like I said, my first wife passed away from
31:15
breast cancer. And
31:17
I got married December 4th, almost
31:19
a year and a half ago. And I had
31:21
told him I was getting married and told Ashley,
31:24
and they both seemed pretty happy about
31:26
it. And really after that, there wasn't
31:29
much talking. Alicia told
31:31
me about two weeks after,
31:32
texted me and told me he's been missing. My
31:35
wife just said it was June 5th when I found out.
31:37
So he went missing middle of May.
31:40
I wasn't told about it until June 5th. My
31:42
first thought was might've committed suicide.
31:44
That was my first thought because they
31:46
found his truck, I think down by the river. And
31:50
he didn't take his wallet with him. He didn't take his
31:52
phone with him. He's in the vehicle sitting
31:54
there by the river. So that was
31:56
my first gut instinct.
31:59
Like Dan. Teresa didn't realize
32:01
that Chris was missing right away. It
32:03
was Dan who called her to tell her the news
32:05
a couple of weeks after the fact, after
32:07
he was contacted by Alicia.
32:10
But Teresa thought he would turn up.
32:12
She had seen him run from his problems in the
32:14
past and thought that was what was happening
32:16
this time too.
32:18
My brother called. She didn't tell Dan
32:21
until two weeks. I think it was two weeks
32:22
if I'm remembering right on
32:25
that part of it. I've seen him run away
32:27
before. I've seen him do stuff before.
32:29
And I'm thinking he'll be back. He'll be back. He
32:32
just told me that he's been missing for two
32:34
weeks. And I said, two weeks.
32:36
And he said, and before
32:37
you say, why are we, am I calling
32:39
you two weeks after the fact, she just
32:41
called me. But Teresa
32:44
also told us that it had been a while since she
32:46
had heard from Chris too. And she wasn't
32:48
really aware of what was going on in his day
32:50
to day life at that time.
32:53
Until he went missing. I think I
32:55
had, I had a call from him.
32:57
And then when I called, called him, I
32:59
got his voicemail and I haven't
33:02
talked to him since, and I
33:04
guess that's when they were getting ready
33:06
to move down there to the farm.
33:09
Teresa had helped Chris out when he had fallen
33:11
on hard times. When he was younger, she
33:13
had found him living in his truck and brought him
33:15
to stay with her. She held out hope
33:17
that he had just cracked under the pressure and
33:19
taken off back to his familiar places
33:22
in Illinois.
33:23
So she went looking for him there.
33:26
Something had to happen
33:27
for him, not to show back up here at my
33:30
house and me not be able to
33:31
find him. I mean, I had been
33:34
all over down here in Illinois, looking
33:36
wherever his spots were around
33:38
here, just like I said, I went over to Worsford and
33:40
to the house
33:41
and it was in foreclosure. There
33:43
was nobody around and you could
33:44
tell nobody had been there.
33:46
I went back over again
33:48
later on and new locks were
33:51
put on like padlocks that it
33:53
was an auction, but the ones in
33:55
Peoria were getting sold and in
33:57
the same
33:58
timeline like
33:59
the foreclosure and then auction
34:02
and some of them been sold and
34:04
I went over to Peking to stomping
34:06
ground, could not find him.
34:08
Went back over to Market Heights where
34:11
my brother lived at, his house was there,
34:13
did not see any sign of that, that house
34:15
has been sold. And then the last
34:17
house, the last two houses in Peking
34:20
that Chris was at, the one was
34:22
on 3rd Street, that house
34:25
has been sold to somebody else. I
34:27
haven't seen him walking around or anything
34:29
and I've even been looking like parking lots. That's
34:31
how I found him before he had his truck
34:34
tucked way back behind a building
34:36
in a parking lot
34:38
and I just went driving down it and
34:39
I recognized his truck and he was
34:42
living in his truck.
34:44
Alicia told us about one clue that investigators
34:46
found in Chris's truck that they thought
34:48
would bring them answers but it hasn't,
34:51
at least not yet.
34:53
They had found a cigarette butt in Chris's
34:55
truck and Kaufman was 100%
34:57
sure that this was only the answers
34:59
we need. We can't find them in a river, we can't find
35:01
them in the woods,
35:02
so this is going to tell us the last person
35:05
to see them, right? Well, they can't match
35:07
it to anybody.
35:08
With no one to match the cigarette butt to
35:11
for now, it remains a lead that could
35:13
go somewhere in the future. Alicia
35:15
doesn't know what happened to her husband
35:17
and she has tried every avenue she can think
35:19
of to look for clues. She looked
35:21
in Chris's phone that he had left behind and
35:24
Chris was fairly isolated at the time
35:26
so it wasn't like there were friends nearby
35:28
that he would have been confiding in or that he
35:30
may have gone to visit that day. I
35:33
went through his phone, there's nothing in his phone
35:35
that indicate anything that he even
35:37
talked to anyone the week before he left or even
35:39
two weeks before he left. We didn't really talk to our friends,
35:42
we had each other and we just we had our lives.
35:44
He would help our neighbor with projects around
35:46
the house and wash up his muscle car
35:48
for car shows but other than that,
35:51
he really hadn't made friends.
35:59
and Chris that night. Alicia
36:02
shared
36:02
that there have been a couple
36:04
of sightings of Chris in nearby
36:06
towns, but
36:19
no
36:23
one has been able to confirm that it was actually
36:26
Chris. The sightings could simply be
36:28
people who looked like him.
36:30
There were a few sightings, two in
36:32
Lebanon and one in
36:34
Sestes.
36:35
When I spoke to the detective,
36:38
it's about a month and a half ago now, he told
36:40
me that he couldn't really follow through with that
36:42
because there's no really description
36:44
of what he was wearing, what he looked like, did he have a
36:46
beard, was he clean shaven. So
36:49
without all that identifying information,
36:52
it was really hard to look into those leaks. But
36:54
I did contact the police departments
36:56
in each of those towns and made
36:58
them aware that, you know, hey, there was a sighting,
37:00
here's what he looks like, he's missing, can
37:03
you keep an eye out? But I haven't heard anything back.
37:05
The fact that there was two in Lebanon from two
37:07
different people, it was about a month apart,
37:10
one in January and one in February, that seemed
37:12
like maybe it could be something.
37:15
We did ask Alicia if there was anyone
37:17
in Chris's circle that could have had a motive to
37:19
harm him, anyone that he could have had a
37:21
falling out with. Alicia told us
37:23
about something that happened about a year prior
37:25
to Chris's disappearance.
37:28
We did have trouble with meth heads when we
37:30
first moved in. So I don't know. And
37:32
they
37:32
live down three miles from
37:35
us. I don't have any specific name. I
37:37
can't even tell you what they look like. But I know Chris
37:39
has had trouble with them.
37:40
We hadn't had problems with them for
37:43
a year. There's been no problem since
37:45
he's left either.
37:46
We had someone try to break in,
37:48
or at least with honor property,
37:50
about 4am. And we
37:52
woke up to the dog's market and Chris
37:55
watched this girl leave and
37:57
then not even a quarter mile down, she gets in a car
38:00
car and there's guy driving. He chased him
38:02
down and basically told him, you know,
38:04
stay off the property and all that. We ended
38:06
up calling the cops. And if I remember
38:08
right, it was actually Morton, Detective Morton,
38:10
who was not a detective then, who came out
38:13
and he's like, what do you want me to do about it? He gave
38:15
him a license plate. They were on her property or they were
38:17
trespassing at least, at the very least, but
38:19
nothing was done about that either. So I'm
38:21
sure there's an incident report somewhere
38:24
about that. The guy that was driving
38:26
that car, like he would come by and harass
38:29
us like, punk it all hours of the night
38:31
every time he drove by and flip my husband
38:33
off. And then this guy's dad stopped
38:35
by and they got into a yelling
38:37
match. But like I said, there was nothing for
38:40
a year before he left. It
38:42
seemed like pretty much an isolated incident.
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Chris's disappearance has caused yet another
40:56
trauma for the family, beyond the lack
40:59
of answers and not knowing. Shortly
41:01
after Chris vanished, his ex came
41:03
and took the older two children back to Illinois.
41:06
Alicia has been fighting in family court so
41:08
that Chris's older two children and the youngest
41:11
child that they have together can maintain
41:13
a relationship.
41:15
He had two kids from a previous
41:17
relationship. And they have lived with us since.
41:20
They were 18 months and three years.
41:22
And they're now six and eight. Two weeks after he
41:24
left, went missing, however you want to say
41:26
it,
41:27
the biological mom came out of the blue and
41:29
took the kids back. She told the cops
41:31
that she saw my oldest daughter's post
41:34
on Facebook, which isn't true, because
41:36
my daughter's Facebook is completely
41:38
private. But then she told him
41:40
again, it was just
41:41
she saw it on Facebook. We don't
41:43
know exactly how she found out, but
41:46
she found out.
41:47
My three-year-old that I had with my
41:49
husband asked a field questions on where's daddy
41:51
and where's her siblings and why can't I see
41:54
any of them.
41:55
At first,
41:55
the biological mom, when she picked
41:58
them up, said we could see or talk to them anytime we wanted. That
42:00
lasted a whole two days. So she got
42:02
an emergency restraining order against me saying
42:04
that I said I was going to come back and take the kids, which
42:07
on that last video call that I
42:09
had with those two kids, the youngest
42:12
asked if he could come home. And I said,
42:14
I don't know, buddy, I have to find
42:16
daddy. And then my
42:18
oldest
42:19
said, well, will you come see us? I said,
42:21
maybe next weekend, I'll come see you. And
42:23
then she got the emergency restraining order.
42:26
So I went through court with that. Drove to Illinois.
42:28
I said, in court, told the judge what happened.
42:31
He goes, you understand that they have to reside
42:33
with their biological mom. I said, absolutely. I
42:35
said, my whole goal here is to make sure that these
42:37
kids know their siblings. And he said, okay.
42:40
And he dropped the restraining order. There was no, and
42:42
she couldn't provide burden proof. And then
42:44
I hired a lawyer. I'm fighting for
42:47
visitation. Since December, I've
42:49
been able to see the kids three times and
42:51
I've been able to talk to them more on the phone.
42:54
Because right now it's a verbal agreement that we're going
42:56
to follow the guardian's recommendations and the guardian's
42:59
recommendation is one in person visit
43:01
a month and two video chats a month.
43:03
And the only thing that the biological
43:06
mom has actually done for us
43:09
is to let us see them for one hour
43:11
a month.
43:12
We drive five hours there and we drive five
43:14
hours back and they only get to see
43:16
their little sister for one hour.
43:19
The guardian said that it
43:21
was not right for Chris to cut Cynthia
43:24
out of their lives. I get
43:26
it. I had no part in that. But
43:28
then it is equally wrong that
43:30
Cynthia is trying to cut out me
43:33
and my child. So the judge
43:35
left it. They have to be put in counseling
43:38
because I'm stepmom. She's bio mom. She
43:41
does not want me in their lives, period.
43:43
It's the kids that are hurting the worst. That's
43:45
not fair to them. It is not.
43:48
It's never fair. And that's what
43:50
hurts so bad is that one
43:52
event my husband leaving has
43:55
wrecked
43:55
everything.
43:56
I lost my better half and
43:59
the fact that I don't.
43:59
I don't know what happened. I don't
44:02
know where he went. I don't know why he left.
44:04
I can't tell him that he's dead because
44:06
I don't know if he is. I can't tell him that he's alive.
44:09
So I can tell them daddy left
44:11
and no one knows where he's at and he's
44:13
missing and everyone is looking for him.
44:16
Like, can I come home? And I said, Oh, honey, I got to find dad first.
44:19
Because I wasn't going to tell him, no, you're
44:21
never going to see this house again and any of your stuff,
44:23
your pets and all that. I wasn't going to say that. I said,
44:25
I have to find dad first.
44:27
Teresa expressed confusion about this
44:29
situation regarding the children and
44:31
she couldn't understand how Chris's ex would
44:34
have even been aware that he was missing so quickly.
44:37
With the kids, when Cynthia came
44:39
down and got him, I think she forgot
44:42
that she was friends with me.
44:43
I sent her a message and asked her how
44:46
the kids were doing and she immediately blocked me. And
44:48
nobody knows how
44:50
Cynthia even found out about it. According
44:53
to the dates that we were given by Dan and Alicia,
44:56
Cynthia took the kids back to Illinois before
44:59
Dan was even aware that his son had vanished. Dan
45:02
says that he hasn't been able to make sense of it all.
45:05
That's a funny thing, too. I don't think
45:07
it was more than two weeks after Chris went missing.
45:10
Our only question is so quickly and I don't even
45:12
know if it was a couple of weeks. So quickly, how did
45:14
she get all that worked out and was able
45:16
to come get the kids? I don't understand
45:19
how she was able to find out that Chris was missing
45:22
and get all the court paperwork, come down
45:24
to Missouri and was able to get all that done
45:26
in just a matter of a few days.
45:29
We felt like we didn't have a firm grasp
45:31
on the situation with the children.
45:33
We knew that Chris had moved out of state with the
45:35
kids in August of 2020. But
45:38
we didn't know if the custody agreement with
45:40
his ex had been amended to allow for
45:42
that move or if he had just left the
45:44
state.
45:45
Alicia mentioned that the judge didn't think it was
45:47
right that Chris had cut Cynthia out before.
45:50
When did that happen? We attempted
45:52
to contact Cynthia to get her side of
45:55
the story, but she didn't respond
45:57
to our messages. So we went back to Alicia to
45:59
see if she had been in the state.
45:59
see if we could get more background information.
46:03
When they split up, she took the kids and
46:05
he fought for custody. In
46:06
May of 2017, he
46:08
won full custody.
46:09
So he has had full custody since then. She
46:12
could get them every other weekend and
46:15
then she would have them every other holiday.
46:17
In the time that I've been around,
46:20
she was never consistent on getting
46:22
the kids. Then when Chris tried to talk
46:25
to her about, she was supposed to pay like half
46:27
the financial
46:27
bills and all that. When he tried
46:29
to discuss his concerns with her being
46:32
inconsistent on visiting and not paying
46:34
her half, she basically
46:36
told him that she was not going to pay
46:38
her half. She's going to see her kids, which she wants to
46:41
see her kids. It was not
46:42
an agreeable conversation. And
46:44
around that same time, she had moved in with
46:46
her living boyfriend and Chris had requested
46:49
his last name so he could make sure the kids
46:51
were with someone that was going to treat him
46:53
right and she refused to give him the last
46:55
name. So he said, well, you're not
46:57
going to see the kids until
46:58
you can provide me with this information, I want to make
47:00
sure the kids are going to be taken care of.
47:03
And so she hadn't seen him for like five
47:06
months. Then she finally gave Chris
47:08
her living boyfriend's last name. And he said,
47:11
you've been gone for five months, go ahead and just take me to
47:13
court if you want to see the kids. And she didn't,
47:15
but then she found out Chris was missing and
47:17
she called
47:18
the detective at the time it was Kaufman
47:21
and said she wanted her kids back. The
47:23
last time they talked was 2019.
47:27
And December 3rd of 2018 was the
47:29
last time she actually saw the kids. And yeah,
47:32
until June 3rd of 2022.
47:34
June 2nd is when she called the detective. June
47:37
3rd is when she picked them up.
47:39
We don't know the other side of this story.
47:42
And we don't have any way to verify this in
47:44
court records. Because family court records
47:46
regarding child custody are generally
47:48
sealed to protect the privacy of minors. We
47:51
couldn't help but wonder if there was more to this aspect
47:54
of the story. Had Cynthia been looking
47:56
for the children since they moved out of state?
47:59
a line of contact with Chris,
48:02
and he worried that they would be taken. Was
48:04
this another stressor in his life? That
48:07
brings us to the next topic that we want to look
48:09
into. One thing that stuck out to us
48:11
as we conducted interviews on this case
48:14
was Chris's mental health. It
48:16
sounded like he was struggling after losing
48:18
his rental properties in Illinois, struggling
48:21
with his self-worth and feelings of failure,
48:23
not being able to provide for his family in
48:25
the ways that he wanted to or felt that he should.
48:28
The move to Missouri was supposed to be a fresh
48:31
start, but it also may have been isolating.
48:34
Alicia worked outside of the home, but
48:36
Chris was home most of the time working
48:38
on the farm and homeschooling the kids.
48:41
Zoe explained that on her last visit to
48:43
the farm in Missouri, she noticed
48:46
a shift in Chris, but she
48:48
didn't realize at the time how potentially
48:50
serious it may have been. It didn't
48:52
click until Chris vanished.
48:55
The last time I had come down was
48:57
a couple months prior to when he had left. So
48:59
he left on a Thursday. The weekend
49:01
after that, me and Blake were supposed to come down,
49:04
but money was tight and we
49:06
couldn't make it down. And I felt really bad
49:08
about that. And him just leaving,
49:10
him being gone for those two hours. It
49:13
was weird. And I knew
49:15
he was depressed last time I came down, but I didn't
49:17
know how bad it was. I just thought, you know, everyone
49:19
has a moment where they're just down. And I
49:22
thought it was just a moment of weakness. Like he
49:24
was, he was going to come back in full force.
49:26
He was going to be him.
49:28
And him just being gone so long made me panic. He
49:31
never does that. He didn't go into
49:33
too much detail with me about it at
49:35
the time. Again, looking back,
49:38
it makes me worry. But one
49:40
of his bigger things was like they moved
49:42
down here after COVID and it was
49:44
hard on him to have such a big transition.
49:46
I
49:47
don't know if he just didn't ever
49:49
come back from that, or there
49:51
was some other factor. I don't
49:53
know. Anytime I came down to visit
49:55
them, he seemed like he was doing all right, except for
49:58
that last time, which I think was in January. a
50:00
new area of last year.
50:01
On one hand, Zoe recognizes
50:04
that Chris did seem depressed in the months
50:06
before he disappeared. But there's one
50:08
memory that she has of Chris that makes
50:10
the idea of suicide difficult to reconcile.
50:13
Zoe shared that during her teen years, she
50:15
too struggled with her mental health and self-harm.
50:19
And it was Chris who had a long meaningful
50:21
discussion with her about it, a discussion
50:23
that she will never forget.
50:25
One of the big things that sticks with me about that is
50:28
I used to self-harm when I met him. And
50:30
I never told him when at first. I came
50:33
to him and I told him one night, like I think he picked
50:35
me up from work or something. And like he
50:37
pulled over to gas station and we had a long talk
50:40
and one of the things that it has always stuck
50:42
with me that he said is I don't
50:44
wanna have to explain why their
50:46
big sister is here anymore. Like that
50:48
is not fair to him, that is not fair to us, but
50:50
it's not fair to you. And hanging
50:53
onto the hot part of me doesn't think
50:55
you would commit suicide. It hurt him.
50:57
I don't think he would ever wanna put us through that,
51:00
but I don't know because I know depression
51:03
will just have fucked up things to a person.
51:05
Throughout several conversations with Alicia,
51:08
she opened up more about how Chris was behaving
51:10
in the lead up to his disappearance and
51:12
some of the things he was saying to her that are alarming
51:15
in hindsight.
51:16
It seemed as though he just couldn't move beyond
51:18
the financial losses.
51:21
I know that weighed on him a lot the week
51:23
before he left because he was devastated.
51:25
He didn't have anything to leave for his kids. But
51:27
look what we're doing here because we were building
51:30
a homestead, we had a farm, we had so many
51:32
gardens. We were growing
51:34
out a cow so we could have our own beef and we
51:36
knew what was in it. We're doing so
51:39
many great things and then he
51:41
just he couldn't move past all the
51:43
loss. Felt like to me it came
51:45
out of left field. Where is this
51:47
coming from and why is this bothering you so bad
51:50
right now in this moment? And I could not figure
51:52
it out. And I still can't to this day.
51:54
That week before he left, he even asked
51:57
me if I was going to leave him because of the man he's become.
51:59
I'm like, I love you. You may not be the same
52:01
man I met, but I love
52:03
you just the same. I don't know
52:05
if he went off to go kill himself. Like I don't
52:07
know two days before he left. I
52:10
called him on my break and
52:12
he was distant and it
52:15
was off and I got
52:17
off the phone. I'm like, why do I feel like we're breaking up?
52:19
Honestly, I think he was more honest with himself
52:22
that week before he left than he had ever been.
52:24
I mean, I know he was more honest with me that
52:26
week. He told me he didn't want to do this anymore.
52:28
I'm like, do what?
52:30
And he goes, any of them. I'm like, do
52:32
what? Do you not want the animals? Do you
52:34
not want us? What do you not want?
52:36
And he goes, I don't want to feel this way anymore. I'm
52:38
like, okay, let's fix that. How do we help?
52:41
How can I help you? Or, you know, what can we
52:43
do to make you feel better? And
52:45
he said he didn't know. And I told him, I'm like,
52:48
I am here and I will support you in anything
52:50
in any way, but you have
52:53
to like, give me some kind of indication of what
52:55
you need from me.
52:56
He did seem depressed, but he
52:59
was also trying to get out of
53:01
that, if that makes sense.
53:02
He was making plans. We were going to do a whole lot
53:05
of work. We had talked about going to the St. Louis
53:07
Zoo. In 2018, we had a caricature
53:09
made of our family. And now
53:11
that our littlest one was here, you know,
53:13
we were going to go and get it redone. Like
53:16
we were making plans. I don't know that
53:18
he was suicidal, but I can't rule it out. The
53:20
most he would talk about was how
53:22
he felt like he wasn't a good husband, which I, of
53:25
course, you know, I try to tell him he was because he
53:27
was the best husband for me. He
53:30
was upset that before COVID,
53:32
you know, he had thriving businesses. We were pulling
53:34
in 10 grand a month and all that. And then
53:37
with COVID, that shut everything down. We ended up moving
53:39
here. Just a general sense
53:41
of unease on how
53:43
things were going in his life, I guess. It's
53:46
not where he thought he was going to be. He
53:48
loved the goats. He loved the animals. He especially
53:51
loved the cow. He was
53:53
extremely happy here up until
53:56
I'd say about two weeks before, about two
53:58
weeks before he left is when he showed up. me he was not.
54:01
Love in life.
54:02
One detail that we heard from a few people
54:05
in interviews was that maybe there
54:07
was a gun missing from the home.
54:09
This could be an important clue if Chris
54:11
was down and possibly suicidal.
54:14
So we went back to Alicia and asked her about
54:16
this gun in question that we
54:18
were told may have been a sawed off shotgun.
54:21
Alicia explained that she doesn't know if Chris
54:23
took the gun with him or if he had gotten rid
54:25
of it previously. He took
54:28
his truck and his truck key. He left the spare key,
54:30
the house key, the wallet, the phones. He
54:32
left everything.
54:33
Our shotgun is missing. I don't know how
54:36
long. I don't know if he took it with him or
54:38
if he got rid of it beforehand because
54:40
I don't go in and mess with the guns too much.
54:43
And originally, I thought they had taken a tent,
54:45
but I found the tent later. So there's that,
54:48
but I still haven't found the shotgun and
54:50
it was an 18 inch. I'm not sure it was sawed off, but
54:52
it was an 18 inch shot double barrel shotgun
54:54
that we had.
54:55
Teresa believes that Chris had the skills
54:57
to live off the grid, but she finds
55:00
it difficult to believe that he would choose to do
55:02
that and leave his children behind. He's
55:05
definitely a survivalist.
55:08
I mean, he can get around. We
55:10
used to start all kinds of things
55:12
and go camping and
55:14
fishing and we'd make fires
55:16
and all that stuff, just practicing
55:19
for being out in the woods and
55:21
stuff. So he knows what he's doing. That's
55:23
one thing that
55:24
Chris is excellent. Chris is a
55:26
good guy. He's loving. I mean,
55:29
he just loves his kids to death. He
55:31
fought
55:31
so hard for to keep
55:34
them safe. That's why I was
55:36
shocked when he just disappeared.
55:38
I don't understand it.
55:40
There's a lot of things I don't understand
55:42
about
55:43
what happened and stuff.
55:45
It just shocked me because I know that
55:48
I now call him a boy because I know
55:50
he's a man, but he's still my nephew.
55:52
I've known him so well through
55:54
all these years with his kids. I
55:57
just know that he would not have
55:59
left those
55:59
three babies in that house with
56:02
Alicia
56:02
outside taking care of
56:04
the goats and chickens. As much as he
56:07
fought for them, there's something else here
56:09
that's not being told.
56:11
There's something else I know, Chris.
56:13
I mean, when I heard he was missing, I said, no,
56:15
he would not have left those kids.
56:17
But then at the same sense,
56:19
after all she found was his
56:21
billfold and his cell phone, and
56:24
he wouldn't have left that. There's a couple
56:26
of things, Strain. Before I weigh what
56:28
I'm thinking, I think of
56:30
all the bad stuff. I think of all the
56:32
good stuff. And I weigh it to see what's
56:34
more feasible. I don't think he
56:37
would do that to Alicia.
56:39
I just don't think he would do that to her.
56:42
There's something else there. I guess
56:44
the big major thing with me is
56:46
there is something fishy going on, because
56:49
it's not lining up. There's nothing
56:51
about this missing case that's textbook
56:53
anything. And
56:55
there's something that happened that we're not we're
56:58
not privy to. It had
57:00
been quite some time since Dan had seen
57:02
his son face to face, or even
57:04
really spoken to him over the phone.
57:07
But Dan was alarmed when he saw the photos
57:09
that law enforcement had posted of Chris.
57:11
He noticed a distinct difference
57:13
in his appearance and can't help but wonder
57:16
what was really going on with him. The
57:18
two pictures that the sheriff's department
57:21
posted when Chris went missing, you
57:23
take a look at that one when he's in the ball cap.
57:26
That's Chris. Just a few years later.
57:28
Look
57:28
at that last picture is teeth. We
57:31
spent thousands of dollars on Steve and he was
57:33
so proud of those. Look at his teeth. Look at his
57:35
glasses. Look at his hair. He just he
57:37
just looks to me disheveled just from
57:39
one person to another. Something's going on there.
57:42
Too much of a difference. He was a good looking
57:44
kid. Second picture of him in Missouri
57:46
just he just looked like he was not
57:49
Chris. He had contact and
57:51
he was always wearing contacts. And in this
57:53
picture here he had a pair of glasses I believe
57:55
that were broken. I don't know. Like I said,
57:58
it just it just looks like he went from
58:00
One end of the spectrum to another in just a couple
58:02
years.
58:03
Dan doesn't know what to make of everything that's transpired
58:06
since his son disappeared. All
58:08
they have to go on for now are theories.
58:11
There are no hard facts or clues.
58:14
The whole thing is just
58:16
baffling to me. Sometimes
58:18
I think that he just got up and left. Sometimes
58:20
I don't know if he's even around anymore.
58:22
I mean, you know, just some of the circumstances was just,
58:25
I don't know. I know Chris. I know how much
58:27
he loved those kids. And I just don't
58:29
think he would just get up and just walk away. I
58:31
just don't believe that. I don't, you know, like
58:33
I said, there's just so many things that you think
58:36
one way and then something, you hear something
58:38
out and you think another way.
58:40
Supposedly, they took the truck in and
58:43
went over it for fingerprints. The
58:45
detective did say that they took the truck in
58:48
and they did whatever they could
58:50
to find something and just never could find anything.
58:52
There was a cigarette, but Alicia said that's
58:54
not the kind of Chris smoke.
58:56
The whole thing just doesn't sound right. Something's
58:58
not sitting right with me. Never has and
59:00
probably never will. Like I said, you know, you go
59:02
back and forth, you play the different scenarios
59:05
and the police did say they had the dogs
59:07
out there. They drug the river. And
59:09
so if he did commit suicide,
59:12
you think the dogs would have found something.
59:15
Alicia struggles to understand what happened
59:17
that day in May of 2022 and where Chris may have
59:19
gone and why. She
59:23
thought that their fresh start was working for them
59:25
on the farm up until just a couple
59:27
of weeks before he disappeared.
59:29
She saw that Chris was struggling, but
59:32
it didn't seem like something they couldn't work through.
59:35
It doesn't make sense because he
59:37
would align things up. He cared for
59:39
his family that much. He would have made sure we were
59:41
taken care of.
59:41
I am 80 percent certain
59:44
he did drive it out of this driveway. But
59:46
where he went
59:47
in the two hours before I found his truck, I don't
59:49
know. I know Chris can hide
59:51
stuff. I would believe anything other
59:53
than he went off to myself because I just
59:56
I cannot believe that. I do not believe that. And
59:58
I never felt that.
59:59
and he was homeschooling his kids. Like who puts
1:00:02
that much effort into it? Why would he put so
1:00:04
much time and energy into everything?
1:00:06
Much of the focus of the search efforts has been
1:00:09
on the river, and that makes sense.
1:00:11
His truck was parked nearby.
1:00:14
It seemed like Chris was really struggling with
1:00:16
his financial failures, but
1:00:18
nothing has turned up there despite extensive
1:00:20
search efforts.
1:00:22
I talked to highway patrol, actually went out to the campground
1:00:24
where they went in, because I asked them, like, can
1:00:26
I hang out here?
1:00:29
They were getting ready to put the boat in, and I
1:00:31
drove down there, and I said, hey,
1:00:34
can I just hang out here? He goes, you may
1:00:36
not want to, because if we find him, it's
1:00:38
not gonna be pretty. You don't want that to be the last thing
1:00:40
you see. And I'm like, and I straight up told him, I'm
1:00:43
like, it's not any worse than him leaving
1:00:45
without saying goodbye. But
1:00:47
I'm like, okay, what's the science of this? Like
1:00:49
if he went in,
1:00:50
what do we expect? And he told me that
1:00:53
within three to five days, his body
1:00:55
would float because of the gases, but they
1:00:57
would find clothing, pieces
1:00:59
of clothing
1:01:00
first. There's no body found yet,
1:01:02
and they found one shirt. It was late June,
1:01:05
highway patrol sent me a text and sent me a
1:01:07
picture,
1:01:07
like, hey, we found a shirt. We need you to confirm
1:01:10
if it's your husband's
1:01:10
or not. So they sent me a picture, and I'm like, he's
1:01:12
got a shirt that color, but I need to know what kind
1:01:14
of material it is, because that would
1:01:17
say a lot. So I went down to their base here
1:01:19
in St.
1:01:19
Robert's. He showed me the shirt,
1:01:21
and it's not his. I'm the one that does
1:01:23
the laundry. I put the laundry away, like,
1:01:26
he doesn't touch it. I know for certain
1:01:28
that's not his shirt, because it was a large,
1:01:30
and he wears extra large. I don't believe he's
1:01:32
in the river.
1:01:33
The Gasconet did just recently
1:01:35
flood
1:01:36
into the woods about
1:01:38
three football fields, and I only thought
1:01:40
as well, if he's in there, maybe he'll wash up,
1:01:43
but I don't
1:01:44
believe he's in there.
1:01:46
Alicia is still at the farm, trying
1:01:48
to hold everything together. It isn't
1:01:51
easy doing it on her own.
1:01:53
Zoe and her fiancee help out as much
1:01:55
as they can, but Alicia says it
1:01:57
has really taken a toll on all of the
1:01:59
kids.
1:01:59
the most.
1:02:01
Alexa has had a bit of
1:02:03
a setback. She asks her daddy every day. She
1:02:06
cries. We have to watch videos.
1:02:08
My oldest is functioning better
1:02:10
as
1:02:10
well, but you know, she has her moments.
1:02:12
And then the middle two, his two,
1:02:14
every time we see him, they ask if
1:02:17
we found him. The eight-year-old said
1:02:19
that she's worried that he's DEAD.
1:02:21
And I just remind them that I'm getting
1:02:24
more and more people to look for him and I'm doing
1:02:26
everything I can and hopefully we can bring him home.
1:02:28
He's out there somewhere. No one knows where
1:02:30
he is. We're looking. And
1:02:32
she'll even, we'll be in the car. She'll be
1:02:34
like,
1:02:35
where's daddy? I said, I don't know, baby. And
1:02:37
she'll go, maybe
1:02:38
he's that way. And maybe he's, you know, and she's pointing
1:02:40
like left and right, forward and back. And he's
1:02:42
there. Maybe he's there.
1:02:44
If she's really insistent, I just tell her, I don't know. But
1:02:46
mommy's looking.
1:02:48
It'll never get easier, but you get better at dealing
1:02:50
with it. I hope he's found too.
1:02:52
I hope he's alive. So
1:02:54
what happened to Chris Hoy on May 19th, 2022? One
1:02:56
thought that we kept coming back to
1:03:01
while working on this case was that
1:03:03
Chris seemed isolated in the lead up to
1:03:05
his disappearance. He wasn't speaking
1:03:07
to family much, if at all. He
1:03:09
hadn't really made any new friends in Missouri,
1:03:12
though tending to the farm and homeschooling probably
1:03:14
kept his schedule full.
1:03:16
We couldn't find an outside perspective
1:03:18
here. And often those outside perspectives
1:03:21
provide us with a lot of context. So
1:03:23
we had to rely upon Alicia for most
1:03:26
of the information about Chris's life and disappearance,
1:03:29
because the only other people who were around
1:03:31
were young children. We couldn't
1:03:33
help but think about an interview we did back
1:03:36
in 2018 for another episode
1:03:38
with Dr. Julie Serrell, a
1:03:40
licensed clinical psychologist and professor
1:03:43
at the University of Kentucky. At
1:03:45
the time this interview was conducted,
1:03:46
she was the president of the American
1:03:48
Association of Suicidology and has
1:03:51
spent much of her career focusing her research
1:03:54
on survivors of suicide and suicide
1:03:56
prevention. One
1:03:58
of the leading theories of
1:03:59
suicide right now is the Interpersonal Theory
1:04:02
of Suicide, which was developed by
1:04:04
Thomas Joyner and colleagues. And
1:04:06
essentially what it says is that
1:04:08
kind of the ideal conditions
1:04:11
for someone to end their life involve this
1:04:13
sense of boarded belongingness. They
1:04:16
feel like they're alone. They don't belong anymore.
1:04:19
That other people wouldn't
1:04:21
understand or care for them. The
1:04:23
next is the feeling of being a burden.
1:04:26
So not only are they alone, but
1:04:28
other people's lives are worse because
1:04:30
of them. People that are suicidal often
1:04:32
think that people would be better off without them. And
1:04:35
it's distorted thinking.
1:04:36
It's not reality. But
1:04:38
they genuinely believe that their death
1:04:40
will bring about some relief or even happiness
1:04:43
to those left behind. Evolutionarily,
1:04:45
we're really designed to keep ourselves
1:04:48
alive. And so when someone
1:04:50
is feeling suicidal, there's something
1:04:52
that's not right. And
1:04:55
it's really despite the fact
1:04:57
that when people are suicidal, they really
1:04:59
feel like they don't deserve help from others.
1:05:01
They don't belong. That people would even be better
1:05:03
off without them. That it's important
1:05:06
to realize that you can get
1:05:08
help.
1:05:08
And there's lots of places to get
1:05:10
help. We thought about
1:05:12
the things that Alicia told us that Chris was saying
1:05:14
and wondered if these were the types of thoughts that
1:05:17
were going through his mind on the day that he disappeared.
1:05:20
And he simply hasn't been found. We
1:05:22
have no way to know for sure. And there
1:05:24
doesn't seem to be enough evidence to point to
1:05:26
any specific outcome. Chris's loved ones hope
1:05:29
that he just needed a break and that he'll turn up alive and well
1:05:31
one day. For the
1:05:33
sake of everyone who loved Chris, especially his children,
1:05:35
he's been a very good friend of
1:05:40
Chris. Chris is a very good friend of Chris. He's been
1:05:42
a very good friend of Chris. He's been
1:05:47
a very good friend of Chris. He's been a very
1:05:49
good friend of Chris. He's been a very good
1:05:53
friend of Chris. Especially his children. We hope the
1:05:56
answers come soon. If you
1:05:58
have
1:05:59
appearance of Chris Foy. Please contact
1:06:02
the Pulaski County Sheriff's Department at 573-774-6196. They
1:06:04
also have a tip line at 573-774-7948. If
1:06:14
you or someone you love is struggling with mental
1:06:16
health, please contact the Suicide and
1:06:18
Crisis Hotline by calling or texting 988.
1:06:23
The world's not gonna stop turning because he's gone, but
1:06:25
I'm not gone, you know? I can't let it keep
1:06:27
turning without me. This new detective
1:06:29
is
1:06:29
just letting it be. He don't just
1:06:32
let it be. He says he doesn't
1:06:34
have any reason to believe he's not alive
1:06:36
and that he will show up eventually and
1:06:38
then he goes on to say he will show up soon. Like
1:06:41
how can you say that? What do you know that no one
1:06:43
else knows?
1:06:44
I hope for the best that he is out
1:06:47
there somewhere. He's gonna come back home,
1:06:49
but I don't know because this Saturday
1:06:52
it will open a year and how do you stay
1:06:54
away from your family that long without something
1:06:56
bad happening? He always talked about
1:06:58
like wanting to do the best. He was always there
1:07:01
to help. Like he always wanted
1:07:03
to be involved with every
1:07:05
little thing. Like even with my son Jackson, like
1:07:07
he wanted to know. He wanted to help.
1:07:23
That brings us to the
1:07:25
end of episode 397. We want
1:07:28
to thank everyone
1:07:32
who spoke
1:07:41
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1:07:49
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