0:12

a

0:12

lot of times there's the doublets that

0:14

get taken away. and they

0:17

even walked yours. It's

0:19

hard to accept sometimes, but

0:22

I I was supposed to great person she really

0:24

was a good friend. A

0:26

testament to that is the friend

0:28

that she had.

0:29

When she went missing, I was

0:32

going down there every week and And

0:34

so were some of the friends from

0:36

the far away from Tennessee and Atlanta.

0:39

They would drive down there and be a pass out

0:41

flowers with me and have to search. you

0:44

know, that was there. Not many people

0:46

had friends that they gave

0:47

you.

0:49

She's been missing six years. She's

0:51

what's important. What happened to her is what's important.

0:54

I am not emotionally invested in any

0:56

of the

0:57

supporting characters around.

1:00

Last week, we brought you the first

1:02

part of Alison Witten's story, which

1:05

started off with another woman with the same

1:07

name being mistaken for the missing Alison.

1:10

She joined Alison's family in the search

1:13

for her, which included looking at

1:15

numerous possible suspects knocking

1:17

on doors, excavating land, and

1:19

recording phone calls to yield information.

1:22

Then there was a confession that detailed

1:24

Alison's death who was involved

1:26

when and where. But was that

1:28

story believable or complete fabrication?

1:32

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3:06

to us. Via a strange

3:08

series of events in which another woman

3:10

named Alison Whitting had been mistaken

3:12

for the missing Allison on social media.

3:15

She reached out to us and asked us to cover

3:17

Allison's

3:17

story, which

3:19

stuck with her since the day she received

3:21

that phone call. and even prompted

3:23

her to make her own podcast about

3:25

Alison. We

3:26

also discussed what we were able to establish

3:29

of the timeline of Alison's

3:30

disappearance than the people that were involved

3:32

in her life. And finally,

3:34

we shared with you the information we never

3:36

expected in this case. the

3:38

existence of a confession tape.

3:41

Today, we'll dive deep into those people

3:43

we talked about that Alison was surrounded

3:45

by in life. The first person

3:47

we're going to take a look at is Billy,

3:49

whose legal name is William Daily.

3:51

Billy was Alison's boyfriend and they

3:53

shared a home together. As her

3:55

significant other, he's naturally the first

3:58

person to look at in her disappearance.

4:00

Rejji explained that when Alison and Billy

4:02

first started their relationship, Reggie

4:05

was happy for his sister, and Billy

4:07

made a good impression, which

4:09

was not what we expected to hear after

4:11

he shared with us in the first part of Alison's

4:13

story. about how he felt as

4:16

O'Billy killed Alison. When

4:18

they got together, he

4:20

was well respectful to me.

4:21

And

4:22

I saw that

4:23

he was real special to Allison. And

4:26

then, incidentally, him and Allison,

4:27

when

4:28

they got together, they both were kinda,

4:31

like, on the bottom that they

4:33

they

4:33

had some problems. They were kinda, like, starting

4:35

over here, both neither one of them had a

4:37

job. They were kinda, like, beach bumps and

4:39

I noticed that they got together.

4:41

Well, you haven't seen two people. They'll

4:43

get together. Wow. Here they go.

4:46

Billy, they got job being a captain

4:48

on one in both house and went back and

4:50

been an accountant. So they bought my

4:52

beach house together and barely

4:54

seemed to

4:55

they maybe the

4:56

though

4:57

right kind of man that I also needed,

4:59

and she was doing good with me. But

5:01

he

5:01

seem to be, you know, take care of it and all.

5:04

But,

5:04

you know, a

5:05

lot can be going on behind the scenes that you

5:07

don't know about. I

5:08

often and

5:09

him, they bumped the house together and everything

5:12

seemed to be okay. So, you know,

5:14

I loved him for that. I mean, I wanted to see

5:16

my sister acted. I wanted and and it

5:18

looked like not being I I was distracted

5:20

by it. So a billionaire, you

5:22

know, I I told a lot of that, and

5:24

he's been here in my home.

5:27

Allison's best friend, Peggy, had her own

5:29

thoughts and observations about Billy,

5:31

who was close friends with her husband

5:33

and the connection that started her friendship

5:35

with Allison. I

5:37

like Billy. He's a funny guy.

5:40

When

5:40

he is taking his medicine,

5:43

he's really he's very

5:45

smart.

5:46

big time history, boss. But, like,

5:48

really, he just fun.

5:50

Play music. Our next neighbor

5:52

had a band.

5:54

and he asked if his band

5:56

could play in

5:57

our backyard because he had a huge backyard. If they could

5:59

play

5:59

in our backyard just to see

6:02

if they

6:02

could do, like, a concert texting ever.

6:04

And so he

6:04

invited his friends. I told my friends come

6:07

over, and Alison and Billy were

6:09

there. And when the band took a

6:11

break, Allison and Billy and my husband picked

6:13

up their instruments and started playing. But,

6:15

I

6:15

mean, I like Billy.

6:17

Peggie also gave us the first insight

6:19

into the darker side of Billy

6:21

and told us that though the relationship between

6:23

Alison and Billy was volatile.

6:24

She

6:25

believed that Billy wasn't the violent

6:27

one, with one notable exception,

6:30

which seemed consistent with what we learned

6:32

about his violent criminal history and

6:34

erratic behavior.

6:36

Now I've seen her

6:37

hit him. I've seen her kick him.

6:40

I've

6:40

seen her hit herself. even

6:42

at my house, I've seen her swing at him. She

6:45

went to hit him in the head with a police

6:47

officer flashlight, but

6:49

we stopped her. from that.

6:51

I never saw Billy

6:53

b Violet

6:54

to her. I saw him try to

6:57

block or deflect but I

6:59

never saw him

7:00

hit her. But

7:02

with that being

7:03

said, there

7:04

was one time when he was off of

7:06

his meds. and

7:08

he didn't want Alison to leave,

7:10

but she was moving in with us because

7:12

she

7:12

was just done with he wouldn't send

7:14

his meds. and he

7:16

had a brought a gun outside. He's

7:19

talking, like, give me life or give me liberty

7:22

or give me death. Well, he was

7:24

saying it in some kind of a weird way,

7:26

though. Like, he wasn't quoting it right. He was

7:28

doing it all weird. And I

7:29

was like, Yeah.

7:31

That's a good quote,

7:33

Billy. And he said, well,

7:35

Alison is my life and my liberty,

7:37

and you're taking that. So I'm gonna give you death.

7:39

And I was like, what? and

7:42

he said, you need to leave.

7:44

And I was like, oh, shit. He okay.

7:46

And

7:47

so you know, I

7:48

walked off and got around the corner

7:51

real quick to

7:51

where he couldn't do anything.

7:53

And then Alison came back around,

7:55

picked me up, and we went back to my house. and

7:57

probably about fifteen minutes after I got to

7:59

my house

7:59

bill. He's pulled into my driveway, so I called

8:02

911 And I said

8:04

this guy's at the house, and he

8:06

had

8:06

a gun earlier, and now he's at my

8:08

house. Okay. Kids and grandkids, I know

8:10

he's trying to

8:11

die over something dumb, pick you know, because

8:14

this guy won't take his meds.

8:15

And then it was shortly

8:17

after that that he

8:19

was bait directed. And

8:21

that's supposed

8:22

to be, like, three days, but he was there for a

8:24

month before they could get his

8:26

med straight. And when he got out, he

8:28

was good, and they moved

8:30

back in and everything

8:32

was good for

8:34

a while years,

8:35

actually, that was couple

8:37

of years. They were things were good.

8:39

And

8:40

then they were at our house.

8:42

Can't remember

8:43

what for I think we cooked out. I

8:45

guess,

8:46

Bilia just, like, beat against the fence

8:48

or something, and

8:49

Alison

8:51

lost her mind

8:52

that he was exposing

8:55

himself in front of me. Like,

8:57

what are you talking about? I didn't see anything. I didn't

8:59

even know he was

8:59

over there going to the bathroom. but that

9:00

was she

9:02

really was very upset about

9:04

that.

9:05

And so she left.

9:08

Billy,

9:08

when he's got on his medicine,

9:10

He is

9:11

full blown crazy.

9:14

So he showed up our house for

9:16

a Super Bowl been a few

9:18

years back, and he

9:20

was spun out. I don't know if

9:22

he was office meds or if he was

9:24

on something. But

9:26

I said

9:27

Billy, where's Allison? And

9:29

he said, she just left the house.

9:31

I said, what house? And he

9:33

said, my house. He said she just

9:35

showed up, and we made love, and

9:37

it was great. And I said, she

9:39

didn't tell her to call me. And he

9:41

said, no. She said she doesn't remember

9:43

you. And I said, Alison

9:46

and he said,

9:46

yeah. She don't like to be called Alison anymore.

9:48

And, you know, come to think of it. She really doesn't

9:50

look the same. she's

9:52

not as tall as she used to be.

9:54

What? So that's the kinda like, he

9:56

was totally when I

9:57

pushed him, it seemed like it was just

9:59

somebody else in he in his mind, it was Alison,

10:01

or maybe he just made the whole thing up.

10:03

But

10:04

I know that he was not in his right mind

10:07

when I was talking to him. and

10:08

then he got

10:09

back on his meds.

10:11

And then I think he got back off of

10:13

him when I started going

10:14

back to his house, asking questions

10:16

here with I was missing because it

10:18

was traumatic. I feel like

10:20

if he did do it,

10:22

we wouldn't

10:22

be looking for her.

10:25

We

10:25

were not able to verify all of the things

10:27

we heard from people we interviewed because

10:30

they're protected by privacy laws.

10:32

But we did receive records that showed Billy was

10:34

committed multiple times over the years

10:36

under Florida's Baker Act laws.

10:39

Police records detailed multiple calls over

10:41

the years concerning Billy's erratic

10:43

behavior. Most of the

10:45

time, those close to Billy would tell

10:47

officers that he was off of his medication.

10:50

Starting in two thousand twelve, the calls

10:52

to law enforcement started coming from

10:54

Allison. During one

10:56

such call, Allison reported that Billy had

10:58

struck her in the face earlier in the

11:00

day. But the officers told her

11:02

they couldn't do anything since it had

11:04

occurred outside of their jurisdiction in

11:06

another County. In July of

11:08

two thousand thirteen, Alison

11:10

called stating that Billy was acting erratically

11:13

and that he had two firearms in

11:15

his possession. She told the officer

11:17

that he had a protection order that states he

11:19

is not to have firearms or ammunition.

11:22

Alison went on to say that Billy was threatening

11:24

to kill her friends. because they

11:26

kept stopping by the house, and

11:28

that he had been let go from his job due to

11:30

his unpredictable behavior. Alison

11:32

was begging them to get Billy some

11:34

help. officers then went to speak

11:36

with Billy, and it was clear that he was in

11:38

need of an intervention. He claimed

11:40

that Alison was a trained killer for the

11:42

British government. and one of the guns she

11:44

wanted to take from him was in a photograph

11:46

with Lee Harvey Oswald in the

11:48

nineteen sixties. He went on to

11:50

say that he was having domicidal about

11:52

some lifeguards he had met in the nineteen

11:55

eighties. The officer was able to

11:57

confirm that what Alison had said

11:59

was true. Billy had a protection

12:01

order against him that never expires.

12:03

The officers told Billy that he had to

12:05

surrender his firearms. They

12:07

also decided that he needed to be evaluated by

12:09

a

12:09

doctor. They didn't

12:11

believe that he was competent to make that

12:13

decision for himself imposed a danger to

12:15

himself, Alison, and

12:17

others. Over the next several months,

12:19

multiple calls came from their home

12:21

on Romana Place. One

12:24

day in September of two thousand

12:26

thirteen, Billy called and wanted

12:28

Alison arrested. She was

12:30

trying to leave him and he was following

12:32

her around filming her. That's

12:34

when she knocked the phone out of his hands.

12:36

In November, there was yet another

12:38

call. This time, it was Alison who

12:40

called the police. She said that a verbal

12:42

altercation escalated when she

12:44

wouldn't hand over her phone to Billy, and

12:46

he allegedly struck her on the side of

12:48

the head. Billy claimed that he gave

12:50

Alison eighty dollars in cash

12:52

and she began ripping it up. That's

12:54

when he said he hit her to get her

12:56

to stop. officers left the

12:58

home unsure of who was the

13:00

aggressor. One thing that is

13:02

abundantly clear is that the relationship

13:04

between Alison and Billy was not a

13:06

healthy one. Billy struggled with

13:08

his mental health and went through periods

13:10

where he was off of his medication and

13:12

unstable. And Alison

13:14

battled addiction. The two

13:16

often fought, sometimes escalating

13:18

to the point of involving law enforcement.

13:21

Speaking to those close to this

13:23

case, We heard some consistent stories

13:25

about Billy's actions and patterns

13:27

of behaviors. It seemed to make

13:29

sense with what we read in the police

13:31

file. and the audio recordings we received

13:34

from law enforcement. Here's what

13:36

Alison Edel told us she had learned about

13:38

Billy's mental health issues. Billy

13:40

was bipolar,

13:41

and everybody has said, like, when

13:43

he was on his meds, he was

13:46

fantastic to be around. He's charismatic,

13:48

he's fashionable. But

13:49

when he wasn't and he would drink, he didn't do

13:51

drugs, but he definitely drank like a fish.

13:53

Alison was gay, but she had

13:56

been with Billy for a couple years. They bought a

13:58

house together. she

13:58

was just trying to make

13:59

it work because she liked him, but

14:02

she was gay.

14:03

And I could just imagine

14:05

his snapping and

14:07

he didn't report her missing. That's the

14:09

thing. Alison's

14:10

name was still on the mortgage of the

14:12

house too with Billy, which is why another

14:14

reason why

14:14

I could see him being you

14:16

know, the one that did that to her. She's

14:18

like, okay, look, I love you, but

14:20

I'm leaving you. This isn't

14:21

gonna work. And I could just see his being,

14:24

like, you're not leaving me and

14:26

you're not gonna try to take the house.

14:28

I could just see him losing his his

14:30

mind and doing away

14:31

with her sadly. I

14:32

mean, there's motive right there. He is

14:34

still in Panama City. He's still

14:36

in the house that he shared with her. He

14:38

didn't report her missing. and

14:40

I'm thinking how can somebody

14:42

claim to love somebody so much and care about

14:44

them even

14:44

if you guys were in the process of breaking

14:47

up and you didn't report

14:49

her missing? In their

14:50

own search for answers, Alison

14:53

l and Alison's close friend Peggy

14:55

decided to try talking to Billy directly.

14:57

So they decided to go to his house.

15:00

This is what Alison L told us

15:02

about that. Peggy is

15:03

the only person that I talked to in the

15:06

course of all of this. that believes

15:08

Davis Gruber, the older sugar daddy

15:10

man. She's the only person that I've

15:12

met that thinks that he is responsible

15:14

for her. Disappearance. She's

15:16

friends with Billy. We actually went to

15:18

Billy's house in hopes that maybe he would talk to

15:20

me because I wanted to tell him, look, I'm

15:22

doing a podcast. no matter how

15:24

you slice the cake, you're involved because you were

15:26

her boyfriend, you guys were together for

15:28

years. And I just wanted him to hear it

15:30

from me. but he said that he didn't

15:32

wanna go back down that road. He didn't wanna

15:34

reopen the can of worms and

15:36

that he couldn't talk to me. I know it

15:38

was so scared going by his house.

15:40

In

15:41

part one, we discussed Alison's

15:43

dog Winston. Everyone says

15:45

that Alison never went anywhere

15:47

without Winston. What was strange about this story

15:49

was that Billy had Winston after

15:51

Alison disappeared, and we don't know

15:53

how that came to be. He

15:55

also allegedly had items in his possession

15:57

that belonged to her, items that she

15:59

had with her on the night that she stayed with

16:02

Davis,

16:02

such as her guitar and wallet,

16:04

Many

16:05

of those close to Alison believe this indicates

16:07

that she returned to Billy's after leaving

16:09

Davis's home on the morning of the

16:11

nineteenth and perhaps never left

16:13

there alive. We heard

16:15

about Billy's history of anger and violence

16:18

from everyone we talked to, but we

16:20

also heard it from law enforcement.

16:22

In recordings we received from Bay

16:24

County, where investigators conducted

16:26

interviews unrelated to Alison's

16:28

case, but involved Billy.

16:30

What you're about to hear is an interview with a

16:32

victim of Billy in an assault case

16:34

that occurred in the months following

16:36

Allison's disappearance.

16:38

The

16:39

following statement is being conducted by deputy

16:41

chancellor of the Bay County Sheriff's Office. The senate view

16:43

is being conducted at it's gonna

16:45

be at the intersection nearest to

16:47

Romana and Delmar. Today's

16:50

date is 892

16:52

thousand sixteen, and the current time is eighteen

16:54

fifteen in the afternoon. Currently present with the

16:56

victim in regards to the situation. Sir,

16:58

please state and spell your fully blind.

17:02

And give me a favor to raise your right hand. You

17:04

swear from that everything you about to tell me is true to the

17:06

best of knowledge in a brief? Yes, sir. k. As

17:09

you stated, you said you dropped your

17:11

girlfriend off. Is that right? Yes, sir. At

17:13

which point, you headed east on Delmar

17:15

towards Romanza, and we're stopped by a

17:17

gentleman in the middle of the road. Is that right? Yes,

17:19

sir. The gentleman you know through contact

17:22

as William Daly. Is that right? Yes,

17:24

sir. Okay. Mister Daly ended

17:26

up coming to the driver's side of

17:28

your vehicle. he rolled the window down. You asked him

17:30

if there was something you could do for him. Is that right? Yes,

17:32

sir. At which point? He ended

17:34

up swinging with his

17:36

left fist striking you

17:38

on the

17:38

right side of your face. Is that right? That's correct.

17:41

k. The face

17:41

itself was obviously closed and

17:44

struck your your right chin

17:46

Yes, ma'am. Okay. After

17:49

that brief interaction, he ended up

17:51

making a statement. What was the statement verbatim

17:54

that he said? quote unquote, battle me right

17:57

now. Choose your weapon. Okay.

17:59

At which point you

17:59

ended up disengaging this situation, leaving

18:02

him, and coming back over to your

18:04

girlfriend's where she herself

18:06

observed that incident as well? Yes, sir.

18:08

k. Her name is Is that

18:10

right? Yes. Okay. And is that the

18:12

right moment you wanna pursue charges against

18:14

mister Daly? Is that correct? Yes, sir.

18:16

k? Due to the

18:17

nature of Billy's offenses,

18:20

Alison L told us that he had certain requirements

18:22

with the court to complete.

18:23

But she also told us that this assault occurred

18:26

because Billy was evidently infatuated

18:28

with another woman. The girlfriend of

18:30

the assault victim you just heard

18:32

and wrote delusional letters to

18:34

this woman, which seemed to indicate that even

18:36

though we have not seen Billy's comprehensive

18:39

criminal record or medical or

18:41

psychological records, He likely struggles with the

18:43

mental health issues so many people

18:45

mentioned to us. Alison

18:47

Ell told us what she knows about Billy's

18:49

apparent obsession with this woman.

18:52

He's mandated

18:52

to take his meds. He

18:54

has to go through anger management.

18:57

He's done all of that stuff. There's

18:59

a girl named and she

19:01

actually, after Alison, went missing, she lived

19:03

in the neighborhood, and he fell

19:05

in love with her. And

19:07

she

19:07

wouldn't talk to me until, you know, she

19:10

finally messaged me back and she said,

19:11

I don't think I have anything that would help

19:14

you, but She

19:14

is who he was in love with, enamored

19:17

with, and he was solely

19:18

focused on her after Alison

19:19

went missing. The

19:20

letters that she gave the police on April,

19:23

the or excuse me, August the ninth when he got

19:25

arrested, it was over her

19:27

because he was crazy about her and she

19:29

had a boyfriend and they

19:31

got in in the neighborhood, and

19:33

that's what he

19:33

got arrested for. Billy seemed

19:35

to be spiraling in the

19:37

months after Alison disappeared.

19:39

He was fixated on young woman in the neighborhood

19:41

when he was arrested for assaulting

19:43

her boyfriend. Police records note

19:45

that he asked officers if rape was

19:47

legal or not Florida. When

19:49

they asked him why he wanted to know,

19:51

he simply stated, I have

19:54

plans. We found this to be

19:56

particularly disturbing. Not

19:58

long after the assault, a neighbor called the

20:00

police to report that Billy was harassing

20:02

his daughter, sending strange letters.

20:05

This man was concerned by Billy's behavior

20:07

and that he might harm his family.

20:09

He had seen him putting up strange

20:11

signs and running up and down the street

20:13

with a flag screaming war.

20:16

Oddly consistent with Alison l's opinion

20:18

about Billy's involvement in Alison's

20:21

disappearance. She told us about an encounter

20:23

he had with Alison's grandmother in

20:25

Alabama after Alison vanished.

20:27

He went

20:28

up there to Alabama and

20:32

he took his truck up there one night,

20:34

and he went up to Alabama and

20:36

was seen lurking around Allison's

20:38

grandmother's house. Allison's grandmother pretty

20:40

much raised her. and the lady that, you

20:42

know, lives on the same property. She said I saw

20:44

him sculking around in

20:46

town and showed up one day

20:48

or he showed up at my house afternoon

20:50

and he was drunk, and he was looking

20:52

for Allison's grandmother. She was like, you

20:54

know, Allison's grandmother, she's not

20:56

here or whatever. She doesn't wanna talk to

20:58

you. she said she was terrified of them because she

21:00

knew he was drunk and he was, like, insisting to

21:02

talk to her. And,

21:04

eventually, he went away.

21:06

Well, three days later, He

21:08

shows back up late at night banging on her

21:11

door in a different vehicle

21:12

and drunk again, and she was

21:14

like, Billy would happen to your

21:16

truck are you doing here? Why are you banging the door? And he said,

21:18

I've got something for

21:19

granny. It was a quilt that

21:20

had belonged to Alison that she would never

21:22

get rid of. And he was like,

21:24

I wanna give this to Granny, and she was like, won't

21:27

Allison want that? You know? And he goes, no.

21:29

She's not gonna need it. She's not coming

21:31

back. and he was

21:32

in a different vehicle. And she said, well, where's your

21:34

truck at, Billy? because, you know, three or four days before

21:36

that, he was in his big brand new truck.

21:38

Well, his truck he totaled

21:41

it. And it was that same night that

21:43

he showed up trying to bring the quote back

21:45

that he got arrested in Houston County,

21:47

Alabama, which is dothin for

21:49

trusting at the police department. This

21:51

was an

21:51

astonishing piece of Alison's story

21:54

to hear, but we were even more

21:56

surprised when Rejji told us that he went and

21:58

had a conversation with Billy's

21:59

mother. and that she actually talked with

22:02

him? I wouldn't talk

22:03

to his mother. I I couldn't believe it.

22:05

But she allowed me to home. We said we

22:07

talked for several hours, actually.

22:10

and

22:10

the woman all but it mitigated me. When

22:12

when she did, she told me she says that

22:14

her husband and she

22:17

says, wedgie there. That's bad.

22:19

She said they're evil. I said, well, ma'am, I'll

22:21

beg the

22:21

or to help me, but she's not gonna do that. I said,

22:24

oh, shut it or whatever. But she

22:26

She

22:26

knows. because her bill is been committed three

22:28

times. That is a pay correct because he was

22:30

a stranger to society.

22:32

the sad Allison's

22:34

friend Jennifer had concerns

22:36

about Billy all along, but she

22:38

too has mixed feelings like Peggy,

22:40

There were times that Billy came across as

22:42

a likable guy. Jennifer had

22:45

spoken to Billy before anyone realized that

22:47

Alison was actually missing. And the

22:49

conversation was really bizarre.

22:51

I

22:52

need Alison and Billy as

22:54

a couple. I need Alison way before

22:56

Billy. And

22:57

as she was with Billy I mean, Billy was

22:59

not the same as person. I mean, he

23:01

had a lot of mental issues and stuff.

23:04

And I didn't perceive him as a

23:06

threat to Alison immediately. But as

23:08

time went on and commented that he would

23:10

make, you know, it was maybe kinda

23:13

easy. And

23:13

I saw her, you know, they I

23:15

knew they were breaking up, and she was supposed to come to

23:17

my house at one point, but she didn't

23:19

make it. but they

23:20

were breaking up. And I knew that this is gonna be an

23:23

issue because of the statements that he had made

23:25

in the past and his

23:26

background that he might snap and

23:29

lose it. and

23:29

he had called me during the time that

23:31

she was missing, but we didn't I didn't realize

23:33

she was missing because I lived in

23:35

a different area. and

23:37

some of the things that his train of

23:39

thought and things that he

23:41

was suggesting was just

23:44

very

23:44

bizarre.

23:45

everything will add to wait a

23:47

minute. Something's not right. And then

23:49

when she was missing it,

23:52

it ended up looking not good

23:54

for him, you know, that maybe he had

23:56

acted

23:56

out some of the things that he had talked about in

23:58

the past, like, oh, he could

24:00

easily

24:00

merge somebody and get away with it. And

24:02

the thing here is Billy and I

24:04

were good friend I mean, I had to come friends

24:06

with Billy. I really a lot.

24:08

I felt close to him, but then I

24:10

know anything he has said in the in the past

24:12

and because he had

24:13

made a phone call to me. and said, okay,

24:16

Jennifer. I think she may be in

24:18

here. And I'm like, wait

24:19

a minute. Where is that? I don't know if she's not

24:22

coming back. Well, how do you know this? I just

24:24

know she's not coming back. So that's the

24:26

odd thing to say, hey. She's not where broke up.

24:28

She's not coming back. That was a so

24:30

bizarre because should not been

24:32

classified as a missing person at that

24:34

point. And my mom was dying at this at

24:36

this time. And so her and I have

24:38

been speaking a lot, but I had

24:40

lost complete contact with her. Let's

24:42

say to get that call at the same time, I

24:44

lost complete contact. It

24:46

was

24:46

real disarming.

24:48

guess that part of the

24:49

sixth out of my mind the most. And

24:51

then two days before my mom died, I

24:53

got a call from PEGOLIA and then

24:54

she said, hey,

24:56

if I wasn't with you, that's

24:58

what I knew. You know, you know,

24:59

you just know stuff. I mean, you don't know how you

25:01

know what. They just you know, I said, they're tagging.

25:04

I wasn't strong

25:06

and and paid it. Now I don't say that. We'll we'll

25:08

find

25:08

her and I'm like, no. We're

25:09

not we're not gonna find her. And it was

25:12

I

25:12

I think it was a conversation with Billy during

25:15

that time. made that impression

25:17

on me if that makes any sense. Peggy

25:19

told us

25:19

about an encounter she had

25:21

with Billy shortly after Alison disappeared.

25:24

but before anyone was aware that she was

25:26

actually missing. She didn't get the

25:28

feeling like Billy was hiding anything.

25:31

One night, husband and

25:32

I were over at some friend's house, and and

25:34

I

25:35

didn't wanna be there. So I started walking home,

25:37

and I was calling Alison, calling Alison. She

25:39

was already gone, but I didn't know that. I couldn't get

25:41

a hold

25:41

of her. So then I called Billy, and he came

25:43

and got me and drove me home. And

25:45

I asked you, I said, Billy, have you seen Alison? He's

25:48

like, no. I haven't seen her And I

25:50

said, you haven't talked to her? He's like, no.

25:52

It's weird. She hasn't even been at the house

25:54

to see Winston or anything. And I said, are

25:56

you worried he goes, nah, pig? She's

25:58

probably found a girl or And

25:59

I feel like I know him well enough.

26:01

I

26:02

know me if somebody had just

26:04

killed somebody within a couple of weeks

26:06

out of felt that. I would have been in

26:08

the truck with them. I mean, I would have my

26:11

instincts have kept me alive for a

26:13

long time. I've been in horrible situations

26:15

and gotten out just in the nick of time.

26:17

And I feel

26:18

like if I was in the car with him and

26:20

it was just a matter of weeks

26:23

or days,

26:23

since he had done something to her, I

26:25

would

26:26

have picked up on it,

26:28

especially asking about her and us

26:30

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29:35

involvement remains in question, but we

29:37

wanted to take a look at other people,

29:39

Alison New, as well. The next person we need to

29:41

discuss is the man that Alison spent the

29:43

night with on April eighteenth,

29:44

Herbert Davis

29:45

Groover, who we have referred to as

29:48

Davis throughout this series. Davis

29:50

was one of the last known people to see

29:53

Alison. We asked Alison Ell to tell us what

29:55

she knows about him. Harbor

29:57

Davis

29:57

Gruber was in his early

29:59

seventies, sadly, he

30:01

passed away in two thousand

30:04

twenty. you know, they never officially named

30:06

any person of interest in that case

30:08

or suspect, but the the

30:10

first people that they interviewed were

30:13

Billy who was the boyfriend she was living with and had bought a

30:15

house with. And then the second

30:17

person was Herbert Davis Gruber,

30:19

who was the sugar

30:20

daddy slash drug dealer that

30:22

lived around the corner, Billy worked offshore,

30:24

her boyfriend. And whenever he was out

30:26

of town, Allison would go over and she would hang out

30:29

with Davis. Davis was

30:30

a much older

30:31

gentleman. Some people say it looks

30:33

like mister Burns from the Simpsons, but

30:35

he would give her whatever kind of drugs

30:37

that she wanted. and he liked to keep

30:39

her around, you know. And Alison was

30:42

outgoing.

30:42

She was

30:43

fun, spontaneous. She was talented.

30:46

She played the guitar. I mean, she

30:48

was just amazing from

30:48

what everybody says. And, you

30:50

know, Billy

30:50

found out about her being around Davis. He

30:53

didn't like it. Davis knew and they would just,

30:55

you know, coke at each other.

30:57

Unfortunately, Davis has since passed

31:00

away after a battle with

31:02

cancer, but we do have his interviews with

31:04

police to refer to. In the weeks

31:06

after Peggy reported Alison missing, investigators

31:08

caught up with Davis and interviewed

31:10

him at length. The

31:12

nature of the relationship between Alison and Davis seems

31:15

complicated and centered mostly

31:17

around

31:17

drugs. Some people refer to

31:19

him as Alison's sugar daddy.

31:21

daddy During his

31:22

interview, he explained that he had a relationship with

31:25

Alison

31:25

for about two years and they were good

31:28

friends. In her free time, Alison would

31:30

visit him at his home. She

31:32

helped him learn how to use computers and other technology.

31:35

Davis said that his relationship with

31:37

Alison caused issues between Alison and

31:40

Billy. Davis told investigators

31:42

about an altercation that occurred during the

31:44

summer of two thousand fifteen, one

31:46

that he never reported to

31:49

the police. He said that Billy kicked down

31:51

his door and beat him to a bloody

31:53

pulp. He beat him into the

31:55

bathroom and threw the shower doors.

31:57

Allison grabbed a stick and started beating Billy

31:59

until he

31:59

stopped. One issue that Billy seemed

32:02

to have with Davis was that he was

32:04

supplying Alison with drugs. Allison

32:06

told her from Peggy about this violent

32:08

altercation before she disappeared.

32:11

Davis

32:11

Gruber, her drug dealer?

32:14

he passed away now. He was a

32:17

trust fund baby. Davis

32:18

had money. Davis had a lot of money,

32:20

but he could get

32:21

the young girls because

32:23

he always had the dope and whatnot.

32:25

I never would spend much time around

32:27

him because Alison was

32:30

clean, and one day Davis came

32:32

over. And he

32:34

just walked in the door and was

32:36

dang on a little baggy and when I was in

32:38

space. Like, come on. Come on. She's like, no,

32:40

Davis. Get away from me.

32:42

Leave

32:42

leave me alone. This

32:43

is the story Alison told me.

32:45

So when Davis dangled crack

32:47

or meth or whatever was in front

32:49

of her, and

32:50

I know many times, she told Davis does

32:52

not call her, not come to her house.

32:54

She'd be at my house crying, delete

32:56

all of his contact information out of

32:58

her phone, but

32:59

he was right around the corner, so he'd still

33:01

just show up. one day, Billy came

33:04

over and knocked the door down and beat the

33:06

shit out of Davis. And then

33:08

Alison and

33:08

Billy went home.

33:10

and

33:10

the only reason that Davis didn't press

33:12

charges on Billy was so

33:14

that Allison would come back over there.

33:17

but it messed him up, really shoved him through, like,

33:19

the glass shower doors, and then

33:21

he fell. And so it was cut up, and then it

33:23

cut him pretty bad when he went on those, like,

33:26

the tracks. that

33:27

the doors roll

33:28

on. So Davis

33:29

had it in for Billy.

33:32

Davis

33:32

openly admitted that he was with Alison on

33:35

the evening of the eighteenth. He

33:37

said that she strummed her guitar. He played

33:39

some music, and they danced together.

33:41

They used cocaine that night,

33:43

and Alison wanted to save what was left

33:45

for the next morning. He

33:48

finished off the drugs and they went to

33:50

bed. He says they did not sleep

33:52

together that night. When Alison

33:54

awoke the following morning, Davis

33:56

said she was looking for that cocaine. She

33:58

had asked him to save, but it was

33:59

gone. She

34:01

wasn't happy with him about

34:03

that. so she packed her things and

34:06

left. Davis said she left around ten AM and

34:08

he never heard from

34:10

Alison again. Several weeks went by, and Davis was wondering where

34:12

Alison was. He believed it was

34:14

about three weeks later that he was walking

34:16

around the neighborhood when he saw Billy

34:18

out on

34:20

the street washing Alison's truck. Davis

34:22

kept his distance from Billy since the last

34:24

time he had seen him

34:25

he had beaten him up.

34:27

He yelled from distance

34:28

to Billy that he needed to talk to him.

34:30

Billy yelled back that he didn't want

34:32

to talk to Davis. As Davis's

34:34

interview with police was coming to

34:37

an end, They asked if could think of anything else that

34:39

could be useful to their

34:41

investigation. Davis said the following,

34:43

nothing other than

34:45

Alison told lot people that she was afraid for her life

34:47

and that Billy was going to kill

34:50

her. He went on to explain

34:51

that two to three weeks before

34:52

the night he last saw Alison.

34:55

She came over to his home and was

34:57

visibly shaken. He said,

34:58

she wasn't physically hurt,

35:00

but she was traumatized. She was

35:03

trembling and she said short of beating her. It was he said

35:05

something that she took to heart like he

35:07

was going to kill

35:10

her period. What happened to

35:12

Alison after Davis says she left his

35:14

home on the morning of the nineteenth is a

35:16

mystery, and there have been

35:18

suspicions circling around Davis since

35:20

the beginning. There's one person

35:22

we spoke to who believes Davis is

35:24

responsible for what happened to

35:26

Alison. And that's Peggy. She

35:28

told us about seeing Davis on the street

35:30

one day after Allison disappeared? It was

35:32

so when I

35:32

came outside, he came pulling

35:35

up, braised fast, and he's,

35:37

like, taking her in another?

35:39

you need some telling people that killed Allison. I said, well, you need

35:41

to tell me where the fuck she is.

35:44

And he's

35:44

like, I don't know. Billy did. And I'm

35:46

like, Billy didn't see her. He was at work. There's

35:49

so

35:49

many witnesses that

35:51

Billy wasn't at work that

35:53

day. He wasn't

35:54

at home. And

35:55

I know

35:58

that his

35:58

job site was right

35:59

next door

36:00

to where my husband

36:01

was working. And he

36:03

did.

36:03

All the people that he worked with said he

36:06

was here. And then,

36:07

like, they all went to lunch together, and then he was

36:09

back at work. It always seems

36:12

so suspicious to me,

36:13

anyway, we're

36:14

yelling each other me and

36:16

Davis. And he's like, I didn't hurt Alison. I

36:18

would never hurt Alison.

36:19

I loved Alison. And he was getting out

36:22

of his car, and then our other friends came

36:24

walking down the woods. Oh, when I asked

36:25

you, I'm like, how do you even know I was over

36:28

here? He said

36:28

Tom Bub told me. So my

36:31

father-in-law told Davis where I was, and

36:32

then I was telling people he heard

36:35

Allison.

36:35

So Davis was going around

36:36

telling everybody that Billy killed

36:39

her. And Davis

36:39

she was at Davis's

36:42

house. I think she was

36:44

over at

36:46

Davis's. And I think they might

36:48

got into an argument. He said they

36:50

fought because he took the

36:51

last of the Coke and it pissed her

36:53

off. I don't know if maybe he gave her

36:56

her bad stuff. but I

36:57

think something happened at Davis's.

36:59

And his

37:01

little drug minions

37:03

did something

37:04

to dispose

37:06

of her. While suspicions remain

37:06

about Davis and his possible

37:09

involvement, there's one person that was interviewed

37:11

by a police who seems to

37:13

corroborate his story. The

37:15

woman who had said she had smoked a joint with Alison

37:18

at Davis's on

37:19

the eighteenth. She seemed to

37:20

know a good bit about the relationship between

37:23

Davis and Alison. She also

37:26

described him as her sugar daddy

37:28

and said that the two did have a

37:30

sexual relationship. Alison

37:32

had confided in her that she felt Davis

37:34

was creepy. and didn't want him to touch

37:36

her. Their relationship was mostly

37:38

about drugs, but sometimes they would go

37:41

to Biloxi to go shopping or

37:43

visit casinos. She recalled that on the evening of

37:45

the eighteenth, Alison was there at Davis's

37:47

with her dog Winston. She claimed

37:49

that Alison said, If you don't

37:51

see me, you know, for a while.

37:54

He's done cut me up. He's done

37:56

something to me. She believed that

37:58

Alison was referring

38:00

to Billy. This woman left Davis that evening after being

38:02

there for about twenty minutes. The

38:04

following morning, Davis called her

38:06

and told her the same story that

38:08

he had told police in his interview. The Alison woke up

38:10

angry at him for not saving the rest of

38:12

the cocaine for her. He was

38:14

calling this woman his dealer to

38:16

get more.

38:18

When he got off the phone, Alison was already

38:20

gone. She did go to Davis's that

38:21

morning after he called her, and

38:23

she said that Alison, her

38:25

dog, and truck, were all gone

38:27

from the home just as Davis had

38:30

also told the police.

38:32

Davis

38:32

has a reputation for being

38:33

a miserable person. and a

38:35

lot of people simply didn't like him.

38:37

Alison's friend Jennifer admits that

38:40

Davis could be a total jerk. But

38:42

when it came to Alison, he seemed to

38:44

want to help. Davis

38:46

has a history, and Davis could be the

38:48

biggest asshole that you've ever met

38:50

in your life. He could just be the most

38:53

irritable, rumpy thing, I know he even has a history that there was

38:55

one lady that died in his house and the

38:58

scenario that he told me that story.

39:00

He told me that story that when I

39:02

went there, and sat down

39:04

and talked, and he was he said

39:06

that he had a girlfriend,

39:08

and they've

39:08

been arguing all night, and she tossed

39:10

out and the kids when he went to

39:12

bed and then he got it later and she was still passed out in the kitchen floor

39:14

where he said he nudged her with the foot,

39:16

nudged her again and then turned out

39:19

that she wasn't alive. and

39:20

that day was his real forthcoming, and he talked

39:22

to me. He doesn't read emails. He doesn't even read texts.

39:25

He doesn't read everything. Sound

39:28

lit. I

39:28

probably wouldn't have shown anybody, you know, because I just probably wouldn't have

39:31

been too personal, but he did

39:33

that.

39:33

Now was that just employee

39:35

to make himself

39:38

look? totally honest. I don't know, but I just

39:40

believe him. I could be totally

39:42

wrong for that, but I

39:43

believe what he was saying. He

39:46

was just two fourth time. It was a two year over

39:47

here. He handed me everything. I wanna go through it

39:50

at my free will, and

39:52

I did. hi day The one person that

39:54

didn't and was not forthcoming was

39:56

Billy. He told

39:57

me alive.

39:58

While reading

39:59

over Alison's file, We

40:01

noticed that one of the first people interviewed was a

40:03

former coworker. The Alison had some

40:06

sort of altercation with months

40:08

prior. We've chosen not to name

40:10

this person. Allison Ell

40:12

told us what she's uncovered in her

40:14

research. The third person

40:15

at the interview was a lady named

40:18

The only other Allison

40:20

at

40:20

the beginning of the year and in

40:22

two thousand fifteen was working for

40:24

a big condominium in Panama

40:26

City called The Summit. She was

40:28

he rise the bookkeeper there

40:30

for the Homeowners Association.

40:32

And she had

40:33

a friend named, I guess, that got her

40:35

the job there. and there were

40:37

some issues that they

40:39

had was having an affair

40:42

with the guy who's the president of the

40:44

homeowner's association.

40:46

He has serious ties with the Dixie

40:47

mafia or the

40:48

Western white men's club. Make

40:50

a long story short,

40:52

Allison,

40:54

had an incident,

40:54

a physical altercation with the lady. And she

40:57

went to to him who was

40:58

the president

40:59

of the homeowner association and tell him about what

41:01

happened and to try to

41:03

get security footage of it. And he said, she's not getting

41:05

fired. And if you think

41:06

so, you're crazy, because he was

41:08

having an affair with her, which could

41:10

be very

41:11

damaging since he was such an up and up political figure. While it

41:13

turned out she was fired from the

41:15

summit the day after

41:18

that happened, she

41:19

had sent out emails to

41:21

the homeowner's association than I before telling

41:23

them what happened. And then the next morning

41:25

when she has fired. She

41:26

sent out the same email to the board, to the homeowner's association,

41:28

thanking them, and letting them know that

41:30

she would be seeking legal counsel

41:32

regarding this

41:34

incident because it could all, you know, for all intents purposes, be discrimination.

41:37

And I found

41:38

that was in January that she got

41:41

fired, but on April the fifth, Allison had a court

41:44

date in Bay County. She has

41:46

filed for a protective order,

41:48

which is a

41:50

restraining order. and

41:50

it was denied. And that was April fifth. That was

41:52

right before she went missing, and nobody

41:55

really knew about it. I

41:57

called the courthouse, And

41:59

I

41:59

spoke with the lady in records. Is

42:02

there any reason you can tell

42:04

me

42:04

why this is denied? And

42:06

said, all I know and all I can tell you, she said, and it's a crazy situation.

42:08

By the way, I was like, yeah, I know.

42:10

She said that there wasn't

42:14

enough information but I think it's very strange that there wasn't

42:16

enough information and considering

42:18

who the parties that B

42:20

were, that it threatened

42:21

to hurt fiscal violence, and

42:23

how they're tied in with, you know, lots

42:26

of money and lots of political

42:28

influence. But I thought I thought it was really funny

42:30

that she went missing shortly

42:32

thereafter that was denied. And she obviously felt scared

42:34

enough to go and seek a protective

42:36

order.

42:37

Hearing about Alison's former friend and

42:39

coworker was certainly an unexpected twist. Would it happen

42:42

between them that led Alison to seek out a

42:44

protective order?

42:46

Did

42:47

she feel that her safety was According to emails that

42:49

Alison wrote

42:49

about the incident, it was in early

42:52

January of

42:52

two thousand sixteen.

42:56

that she

42:56

went to her job at the summit, and this coworker shoved

42:58

her paycheck in Alison's face and

43:00

claimed that it was wrong. This woman

43:02

was very angry with Alison.

43:05

Allison felt so threatened by this altercation

43:07

that she left to look for

43:09

security. She sent out emails detailing

43:11

what went down. but felt like

43:13

they took the other woman's side because of

43:16

her relationship with the president of the

43:18

association. Alison was accused

43:20

of altering work hours within their system.

43:22

causing the other woman's check to be wrong. Alison warned her

43:24

employer that if she was terminated over

43:27

this, she would get

43:29

herself an attorney The following

43:31

day, Alison was fired, and she

43:34

said she would make good on her promise to seek

43:36

out legal representation. In

43:38

the police records, there is an interview

43:40

with this woman. They asked her about what

43:42

had unfolded, and she stated that since

43:44

it was in litigation, she wasn't sure if

43:47

she should really go into the

43:49

details. Because of that, they never really seemed to get to

43:51

the bottom of this issue with the former

43:53

friend and coworker. She didn't want

43:55

to discuss the issues or

43:57

altercation that she had with

43:59

Alison. But she was

43:59

open about things Alison had said to her

44:02

before they're

44:02

falling out. Alison had

44:04

confided in her that the relationship she

44:06

shared with Billy was violent.

44:08

And that if anything ever happened to her, someone needed to tell the police

44:11

that Billy probably did it and that

44:13

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44:16

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At

47:30

the end of part

47:31

one, you heard people talking about having

47:34

heard a confession tape. We

47:36

received

47:37

the audio recording and

47:39

though the audio quality is not good enough to actually air as part of

47:41

this episode. We wanted to play a few

47:43

seconds of the tape so that our listeners could

47:45

form their own opinions

47:48

about this strange conversation. We know based

47:50

on previously published information and through

47:52

our own interviews with people who have heard

47:56

the tape, that Billy is a person making the alleged

47:58

confession. Here is a short portion of

47:59

what we were able to pull out of the badly

48:02

garbled audio.

48:05

the

48:45

As you just

48:46

heard, this alleged confession is

48:49

very difficult to understand.

48:51

There's a

48:51

lot of background noise in the

48:54

recording. In the beginning, he talks about

48:56

Alison taking a bunch of pills and

48:58

then taking her last breath in

49:00

his arms. On the surface,

49:02

that seems like it could be a plausible

49:04

outcome. We know about Alison's

49:06

history of drug use, but

49:08

as the recording went on and he was

49:10

questioned further, He

49:11

seemed confused. At

49:13

times, he says that her soul

49:15

died, but her body lived on.

49:17

She

49:17

stayed up that night on

49:19

Facebook. He said she was dead,

49:20

but making a Facebook page while drinking

49:22

a bush beer. Things started

49:24

to sound more like science fiction

49:26

than an actual confession. He

49:29

went on to say that he believes that Alison is actually

49:31

an unbirthed kitten inside some cat's belly. Later, he

49:33

said that he believed she was on

49:35

watermelon road in

49:38

Tuscaloosa Alabama. But it didn't put her there. She must

49:40

have

49:40

flown there because that's where she wanted

49:42

to be buried. Billing went on

49:43

a very long rant

49:45

about the butterfly effect.

49:48

before stating that he thinks anything eddibly that is left

49:50

of Alison's body is probably a

49:52

stain on the apex of a

49:56

glass pyramid. that was defaced in the courtyard of the palace of

49:58

Versailles in Paris.

49:59

As we were listening, we were wondering if

50:02

this was actually

50:04

a confession. or perhaps

50:05

Billy was under the influence. We

50:08

know that he struggles with his mental

50:10

health and goes through periods where he

50:12

doesn't take

50:14

his medication. The recorded

50:14

confession tape seems like a conversation being

50:17

had

50:17

in code. More like an analogy

50:19

of what happened to Alison than a

50:21

confession to murdering her. to murdering

50:23

her But we don't know Billy and we

50:25

haven't talked to him. So we weren't sure if maybe

50:27

one of Alison's friends knew what he was

50:29

trying to say. Allison's

50:31

friend Jennifer told us her interpretation of

50:34

the tape. She does

50:36

speak of him holding her

50:37

while she was dying and different

50:39

things like that. I think human

50:42

refers in that I haven't

50:43

listened to it in a very long time because

50:45

it's hard to listen to, and

50:47

it's

50:47

hard to hear because there's traffic in

50:50

the background. that he talks about being in the car, when he went

50:52

places, after she was born, and

50:53

stuff like that. And also,

50:55

Billy and I don't know if he was

50:57

just playing my

50:58

that

50:59

I don't know what he

51:01

was in, but he would speak to me and he would say, well, I have for

51:03

Kenny Barite over here

51:04

in this park that we foreside

51:08

Jackson, her kidneys there as we go by, and he would make

51:10

he

51:10

would make statements like that throughout

51:12

this time. And, you know, her piece

51:14

of her buried in the backyard or

51:18

And even at one point, I said, you know, Reggie was on one side

51:20

of him. I

51:21

was in there that we were trying to, you

51:23

know, barely just tell us what

51:25

happened and tell us

51:27

for my assessment.

51:27

That's all you wanna know. I

51:29

said to

51:30

him, why don't you just give me a piece of

51:32

her to take home? That's what's in his

51:34

face and and his reaction?

51:36

I was

51:36

prepared for him to do that because it seemed like it I don't know what how

51:39

do you explain that situation, but he didn't he

51:41

went back off and did his

51:43

very little stuff. that

51:45

he And

51:46

but there was a moment in that time

51:48

that I was, oh my god, he's about to do

51:50

this. He's about to hear me and he's forever ending

51:52

the d when he dies. You know?

51:54

and I don't know if that his he playing I know why

51:56

he did that. So I don't know. But he

51:58

just wanted us to believe

51:59

that if

51:59

the he has but he's

52:02

just over

52:03

complaces or if you really did? Or

52:05

I'm not

52:05

sure. We received the

52:07

records we requested from

52:09

Bay County, Florida. but

52:11

they seem to be missing a

52:12

lot of important information. We

52:14

were never able to get answers to

52:16

what seemed like logical questions that

52:18

law enforcement should be asking. We

52:20

don't know how much of Allison's file we received

52:22

or if law enforcement simply isn't

52:24

sharing information as they declined to

52:26

speak with us for an interview.

52:29

But everyone we did interview shared the

52:31

same sentiment that Bay County hasn't done much

52:33

to

52:33

look for Alison. Reggie

52:35

voiced this to us with

52:37

particularly strong feelings. because of his

52:39

own arrest by Bay he did something that some might consider to

52:42

be street justice. By digging

52:44

up Billy's

52:46

yard himself, looking for his

52:48

sister's remains when he knew that Billy

52:50

wasn't home. He decided

52:52

to do this with the help of Davis

52:54

after hearing the alleged

52:56

confession tape. Here's Reggie on that. To

52:58

this day, have not talked or

52:59

have not done anything

53:02

else. Nothing.

53:03

that but

53:04

that's not all that they had over man. I guess,

53:06

you know, you've heard about

53:08

the confession where you can fast, of course,

53:10

you don't use

53:12

it. when I got

53:12

arrested for digging up the yard, all of that

53:14

stuff that I found buried in his

53:17

backyard. Nothing ever

53:19

done about that. And

53:20

if you ask one of the investigators, oh,

53:22

we're not really done something. But I just don't

53:24

get why

53:25

they

53:27

haven't done anything.

53:29

about

53:29

it. It's

53:30

just when I got arrested for

53:32

digging the yard up, molly, there were there

53:35

were no I had to I had

53:37

to back away from it and give it to God because I'll I'll go around there when

53:39

I got on for Friday. I'd go there and I'd

53:41

stay all weekend. Well, one weekend, I

53:43

worked down Friday. It was

53:45

Sunday about two o'clock in morning. I was

53:48

exhausted. I was driving home.

53:50

Apparently, I just fell asleep on

53:52

the wheel right

53:54

off road. and I had a hirisca mobile bill actually

53:56

because I was paralyzed from the neck

53:58

down. I

53:59

actually died. But

54:01

to this day, you know, I

54:03

I suffered one time sales. I

54:06

with all this happened, I had to back away and

54:08

say, okay, god. because then

54:10

it's his mind and said to Lord, and I was

54:12

just before thinking that man

54:14

and some word and making him

54:16

tell me what my sister was and and

54:18

so on.

54:19

Reggie and Davis had rented

54:21

an excavator to search for Alison in

54:23

Billy's yard. The two men were later

54:26

charged with two felony counts of

54:28

criminal mischief. Those charges were

54:30

eventually dropped. We were told

54:32

that during their day, they uncovered a

54:34

burned sofa in

54:36

women's clothing. Jennifer told us she was convinced they were going to

54:38

find Alison that day.

54:40

The ex roommate or was

54:41

brought in and

54:43

some reason,

54:43

I never got incident. I'm glad. I mean, it was bad

54:46

because then legal charges

54:46

were taken out on me, but it

54:48

was for Reggie and Davis. But there was a

54:50

time when he was sitting there and

54:52

pieces of

54:53

dirt being scoped up and, you know, watching as they

54:55

sit down to work for body parts

54:58

or a piece of your friend. And you

55:00

wonder how you're out there? I've never

55:02

been second medicine so long

55:04

at the same time in my entire

55:06

life, we were so convinced

55:08

that we were verifying what we

55:10

wrote. Something we were

55:11

looking for it, and it was all gonna be over.

55:13

But we never thought past, what are

55:15

we gonna do when we find if we find

55:17

nothing? We never even that thought

55:19

never at all not

55:20

mine. So when there was

55:21

nothing, we just stood there looking at

55:23

each other, like, what do we

55:25

do now? We were just

55:27

one hundred percent solid

55:29

shore that it was gonna be over that

55:32

day. Rejji explained

55:32

that he feels immense guilt that

55:35

Alison didn't call him. or have

55:37

the ability to call him and ask him to come get her, and help her leave

55:39

the relationship with Billy. And he

55:41

also holds law enforcement accountable for the

55:43

things that he

55:46

said they have not done and cannot be explained that implicate

55:48

Billy in Alison's disappearance.

55:50

I have no idea that

55:52

we even

55:53

have any time to issue

55:56

at all. I have to live with that that she didn't call me and say, hey,

55:58

brother. Because I wouldn't went down there

55:59

and got hurt her stuff

56:02

and there wouldn't have been

56:04

no problems. she's

56:05

dumb and he had her

56:08

truck. He's had her

56:09

guitar in her laptop. Now

56:11

the

56:11

guitar tall laptop

56:13

in the laptop the last place she spent the night was that

56:15

Davis Groove was she had left Davis

56:18

Groove where he had a picture of her, was it just

56:20

on her

56:22

laptop. Now,

56:22

she's

56:23

disappeared really in her

56:25

truck. Well, when I went up

56:27

the house, I found her

56:29

to talk her laptop.

56:31

I've given to the

56:32

sheriff's department. And I'm

56:33

asking them, hey, if somebody

56:35

disappears and and he's kind of

56:38

stuff, ain't that grounds? I

56:39

mean, hello?

56:40

i how long that's

56:41

just like you and

56:42

I are talking to

56:43

stuff and you tell

56:45

something I have going over

56:48

to Reggie's. Well, you come here and I make you

56:50

disappear. I said, well, I ain't seen her. But

56:52

somebody looks like, well, what's a

56:53

pocketbook doing here? What,

56:56

you know, right there,

56:58

I've got some questions there, Trondola.

57:00

If I talk

57:01

to your staff, and

57:02

that's exactly the way it

57:04

is. he

57:05

had her stuff, but yet he

57:07

claims hints here. All

57:09

of her personal stuff like

57:11

pennies, and clothes, and

57:13

makeup, were buried

57:13

under five feet in the

57:16

backyard for the

57:16

eighth saver. It's just

57:18

I

57:19

don't know. I'm you know,

57:21

I've tried to work with the Bay County Sheriff's Department, and

57:23

they never once don't play the room

57:25

at all. They've they've not

57:27

done a damn thing.

57:29

And this is something that I'm very upset

57:32

didn't. My sister

57:33

was messing. I believe about three

57:35

weeks before I found out.

57:37

Nobody talked to call and say, hey. And

57:39

I told them I told her, Peggy, I said, you

57:41

know what? I got

57:42

a friend too. If I don't see them

57:44

for a couple days a week, I might be like,

57:46

hey. What's going on? It's

57:48

not gonna take that long for me to

57:50

say something? We were

57:51

never able to get any

57:53

verifiable information about

57:55

Allison's phone. or whether or not police had obtained records from

57:57

the carrier or social media

57:59

platforms. But Alison Ell told us

58:02

that she had learned one

58:04

piece of possibly crucial information about the phone, but

58:06

that it appeared law enforcement didn't

58:08

follow-up on it. I

58:10

saw that the last

58:11

place Alison's phone pinged

58:12

phone pinged was actually

58:14

in Milton in Santa Rosa County where I happen to live when

58:16

all of this happened. So no wonder

58:18

they were curious about

58:21

you know, me and who I was, and how I was

58:23

related to the case, and how my name got

58:25

thrown into the hat with all of this.

58:27

They never questioned me again. They've

58:30

never contacted me back. And

58:32

at

58:32

first, the lady was really sweet to

58:34

me that it was that does their publicity, you

58:36

know, that's in charge of all that.

58:38

And

58:38

then as soon as Beth found out what I was asking about, and I

58:40

just asked Tristan, you know, miss

58:42

Beth, can you please just show me or let

58:44

me know the proper channels to go through

58:47

contact detective Reinhart about a

58:50

podcast that I'm doing.

58:51

And crickets spoke with

58:53

another officer who was you could tell he

58:55

was probably a rookie and he was on desk duty.

58:57

spoke with him, and he took my name, and

58:59

he took the case down. And he was

59:00

like, okay. I'll get this message

59:03

to detective Reinhart, and blessed

59:05

heart. I never heard back from him again either. And I gave him ten

59:07

days before I contacted him again. Hell, I gave him a month

59:09

even, I think, after that

59:12

and nothing.

59:12

that and nothing know there

59:14

are most cool people that I've spoken

59:16

with throughout, you

59:17

know, me just trying to find out what

59:19

happened to Alison that have said,

59:21

We've reached

59:21

out to Bay County. We've left

59:23

messages for people that they need to

59:25

look into or just

59:26

trying to check up on the case.

59:28

and

59:29

they don't even return their calls.

59:31

Sad and unfortunate. And I'm not talking about

59:33

just, you know, everyday running old people. Some

59:35

of these people are like

59:38

executives and people that have money and people that cared about

59:40

Alison. We discussed the

59:41

mysterious circumstances surrounding Alison's

59:44

truck being considered abandoned in

59:46

part one of her story. But

59:48

when we spoke to Alison Al,

59:50

she told us she felt that law enforcement

59:52

should have done more or done anything

59:54

at all with the truck. conducting

59:56

a forensic examination of it.

59:58

I found out that

59:59

the truck was towed on the

1:00:01

twenty fourth of April, so that's

1:00:03

a few days after either way

1:00:05

you look at it. She was seen, and she brought the truck

1:00:07

back to his

1:00:08

house because it was his truck.

1:00:11

but the police never have they never

1:00:13

forensically examined it. They never nothing. They never asked any

1:00:16

more questions and he loitered up. They

1:00:18

never did a search

1:00:20

for it. they

1:00:20

never did anything because Billy woke up.

1:00:22

Nobody was in denial

1:00:23

about Alison's substance abuse issues.

1:00:26

And yes, she liked to drink.

1:00:28

And yes,

1:00:28

she did drugs, but

1:00:30

Alison was not debar going kind at

1:00:32

all. She would do her shit at home. You

1:00:34

know what I mean? She was a homebody and

1:00:37

she of any bar would never be there. And it was

1:00:39

funny because that bar

1:00:40

can be seen literally

1:00:42

across the small lake from

1:00:45

Davis Groover's house, the drug dealer

1:00:48

slash sugar daddy. So a lot of

1:00:50

people think that he killed

1:00:51

her and cleaned out

1:00:54

the truck went up there and parked the truck at the

1:00:56

bar, which is right in front of

1:00:58

Davis' house.

1:00:58

So automatically, that's gonna look funny.

1:01:02

and walked

1:01:02

back home, and nobody was ever the wiser. And then her truck

1:01:04

was found there three or four days later,

1:01:08

and towed they called him

1:01:09

and said, hey, man, you know, we've got your truck if this

1:01:12

is your truck because his name was on the

1:01:14

title. They towed it back to the house. It was

1:01:16

never forensically

1:01:18

examined. They never

1:01:18

looked into the towing, the time, nothing. Lady

1:01:20

who reached out a

1:01:21

couple weeks ago, and I had been trying to get

1:01:23

in touch with her since October, but she

1:01:25

had just seen my thing on messenger.

1:01:27

And she said, one thing I will say is that Bay County called

1:01:29

me back after I left an initial message

1:01:31

when Allison was missing. And

1:01:34

they said, what would

1:01:35

you say if we told you that her wallet and

1:01:37

her dog, Winston,

1:01:39

were in Billy's custody?

1:01:41

And she'd say, well, I think you know

1:01:43

who is responsible. because Winston, her dog, who she wouldn't

1:01:45

go anywhere with, was in fact in Billy's

1:01:48

custody,

1:01:48

along with her wallet and

1:01:50

her

1:01:50

other things and the truck. that's

1:01:54

where they were all found. So how did he wind up with him

1:01:56

if he wasn't responsible as kind of my school

1:01:58

of thought? One

1:02:00

frustration we had

1:02:00

while working on this series about

1:02:03

our Ellison was how many different

1:02:04

stories we heard or

1:02:05

read about where Ellison's truck was

1:02:08

found. The most consistent

1:02:10

story we heard was that it was towed from the

1:02:12

beach house bar. but the source of information

1:02:14

is Billy, and many

1:02:16

believe he's not reliable. We

1:02:18

also read mentions of the truck being towed

1:02:20

from an express lane convenience store.

1:02:23

and another story about it being found at a

1:02:26

Vietnamese restaurant. Then Rejji told

1:02:28

us that he spoke to the towing

1:02:30

company himself. and they said they

1:02:32

towed it from the Waffle House in

1:02:34

town. Reggie said that he went there himself

1:02:36

and they kindly allowed him to view the

1:02:38

footage with his own eyes. He says

1:02:40

that he saw Billy on the tape leaving the

1:02:42

truck there and walking back in the

1:02:44

direction of his home. It would seem

1:02:45

that a call

1:02:46

to the towing company could cleared all

1:02:48

of this up and give us a definitive time and place that

1:02:51

Alison's truck was found. But there's no

1:02:53

record of that in the

1:02:55

files we received. In

1:02:57

a story with so many shaky

1:02:58

stories and unreliable storytellers,

1:03:01

it felt like this is one question

1:03:03

that should have a firm answer.

1:03:05

Along the same lines as

1:03:07

Alison l, Rejji explained to us why

1:03:09

he believes that Billy killed Alison.

1:03:11

His belief that Davis

1:03:14

is innocent. And how many questions he feels that law enforcement has

1:03:16

left unanswered?

1:03:18

It's hard to

1:03:19

live with, man.

1:03:22

It is. it takes a lot

1:03:24

of faith in your life. So I got to call, they were asking that

1:03:26

we had seen her or

1:03:28

whatever.

1:03:30

my

1:03:30

responsibility. It's my baby's just ma'am, I booted up. I

1:03:32

will tell

1:03:33

you that much right now. I booted up. I

1:03:35

made flyers. I went down there and I

1:03:37

did not come down

1:03:40

to I mean, when I went to Davis Groopers,

1:03:42

I knocked her on his door, and

1:03:44

and literally was pointing the finger Groove.

1:03:46

And I didn't know the man. So

1:03:49

I'm thinking, hey. I'm going over

1:03:51

here. But when I knocked

1:03:51

on his door, he opened

1:03:53

up.

1:03:53

And I've dealt with people

1:03:55

who lost his voice. Now when

1:03:57

he looked at me,

1:03:59

I

1:03:59

could

1:03:59

tell that he

1:04:00

he was, you know, like, oh,

1:04:02

but

1:04:03

his immediate response

1:04:05

to me was told me who he was, what was going on. He said,

1:04:07

let me show you what I got. He laid down his phone,

1:04:10

his computer. He was he opened

1:04:12

up everything, ever

1:04:14

correspondence, everything about him at Allison. I sit

1:04:16

there and listen to voice mails, read

1:04:19

this, watch videos,

1:04:22

photos, he was

1:04:23

forthcoming with everything. You know what I'm saying? It was

1:04:25

a different

1:04:25

kind of nervous

1:04:26

that the billing acted

1:04:28

like, oh, god. This is

1:04:32

if I'm you know, that that kind of a nervous fear. But rumor was

1:04:34

more like, jeez. I ain't got anything,

1:04:36

but I hope this thing, my fucking just don't

1:04:38

snap on me or something. You know?

1:04:40

Jennifer

1:04:41

mentioned earlier that Davis was very

1:04:44

forthcoming about Alison, and the

1:04:45

fact that they spent the night together before

1:04:48

she mysteriously

1:04:50

disappeared. She

1:04:50

felt like he was being honest. But on the other hand,

1:04:52

she

1:04:52

didn't feel the same way about Billy.

1:04:55

I from my mom

1:04:57

died and I had couple

1:04:59

of weeks from my eye guide to go I know what

1:05:01

happened. So

1:05:01

I went down to Pembina

1:05:03

city, and

1:05:05

right I when I talked to everyone. Everyone

1:05:07

that I could think of that would have any involvement

1:05:09

and I kinda followed the trail that

1:05:12

she acted

1:05:14

like So that's just for a Brad trial and got all the way up to

1:05:16

this morning. She left on every

1:05:18

track

1:05:19

trace, talk to

1:05:20

all those people, and

1:05:22

everyone was forthcoming and honest or seemed to

1:05:24

be, and

1:05:25

the last person I went to is Billy.

1:05:27

And when I got

1:05:28

there,

1:05:30

It was all you know, things he

1:05:32

said that he'll hide. He'll hide many times. It was

1:05:33

one situation where the last person she's

1:05:36

seen was

1:05:38

Davis. And she

1:05:38

left his house. She had her amplifier, her guitar, and

1:05:40

the laptop. Well, building the line, there

1:05:42

seems to

1:05:43

be hey. I'm having

1:05:46

those things. or when I talked to

1:05:47

the detective, I said as they made

1:05:48

a look, you know, sort of the house

1:05:50

and they

1:05:50

said, well, we can't we can't go in there because he's lawyer'd

1:05:52

up. I said, well, I could go

1:05:55

in there because So I knew I could freely go in here.

1:05:57

I found that laptop.

1:05:58

I found that amplifier,

1:05:59

found that guitar and

1:06:01

in the house. That

1:06:03

was a lie. So when you

1:06:05

catch so many NOI like that, you kinda go, wait a minute. You're

1:06:07

the only personal line that that

1:06:09

I'm catching directly NOI,

1:06:11

and that supply and

1:06:13

Billy type

1:06:14

of person and he was I've seen Billy go

1:06:16

up, you know, I've seen him lose it ever little

1:06:18

things. One day after that,

1:06:20

I was at his house and

1:06:22

some girl pulled up. I have no idea what this is about.

1:06:25

And he just pulled the TV

1:06:26

off to see

1:06:27

an entertainment fan.

1:06:30

and

1:06:30

he just ran out. So I went and just slammed it in the back of the little pickup

1:06:32

truck and busted in the pieces, you

1:06:35

know. From when

1:06:36

when mood all of

1:06:39

a sudden, the storm property and the other is in the split second.

1:06:41

And I never knew what that was all about.

1:06:43

I never I

1:06:46

didn't ask. because, you know, it's somewhere in the net at that point. You just

1:06:48

kind of let things go where they

1:06:50

are.

1:06:50

And, you know, seeing him lose

1:06:54

his temper. so many

1:06:54

times in just a split second. And then

1:06:57

suddenly, the the sign slowing,

1:06:59

like, it never happened. Allison,

1:07:02

L never knew the woman she shared a

1:07:04

name with, but has come to know her through the

1:07:06

people who did, and who loved her

1:07:08

and miss her beyond words. She

1:07:11

echoed the sentiments of what we've heard from many loved ones in

1:07:13

many episodes. The

1:07:14

Alison deserves to be

1:07:16

found. of how

1:07:18

she was perceived or the mistakes she made

1:07:20

in life.

1:07:22

Her whatever twist the

1:07:22

fate I wound up being involved I

1:07:25

feel like this is my purpose was to

1:07:27

bring awareness to her story because it could have

1:07:29

been me in that relationship. It

1:07:32

really could

1:07:34

have it's true for everybody out there. And we

1:07:36

all see ourselves in

1:07:38

whichever way the wind blows

1:07:39

sometimes, but I just hope

1:07:42

that we can bring some more awareness to her

1:07:44

story because somebody has to know something. I

1:07:46

know it's cliched, but she

1:07:47

did cocaine,

1:07:50

she did pills.

1:07:50

I mean, she drank you know, she was a daily drinker,

1:07:52

but it never stops her

1:07:54

from being productive. And

1:07:58

she

1:07:58

just deserves to be found. I mean, you know, she did

1:07:59

drugs, but she

1:08:00

was a functioning addict and she was

1:08:02

a CPA. She was smart. She

1:08:04

went to college. She graduated.

1:08:07

there's no reason why the narrative in America that

1:08:10

continues to be if you have a past or you

1:08:12

have a problem with

1:08:14

substances or

1:08:14

you are a sex worker

1:08:17

that

1:08:17

you don't deserve to be found. It's just it's horrible.

1:08:19

And I know that it's like, you know, fighting a losing

1:08:21

battle, but it's

1:08:23

just not fair. people

1:08:25

don't get the the attention they

1:08:28

deserve. It shouldn't make anybody less important in the

1:08:30

eyes of law enforcement or any other entity that

1:08:32

is responsible

1:08:35

for finding somebody. This

1:08:36

is somebody's sister. This is

1:08:38

somebody's daughter. This is somebody's

1:08:40

friend or,

1:08:42

you

1:08:42

know, coworker and it's just an

1:08:43

area that needs to change so much. Something can

1:08:45

be done. Something needs to

1:08:47

be done, and she

1:08:49

deserves to be

1:08:50

found like some heart.

1:08:52

All of the

1:08:53

families we interview miss their loved ones desperately. But

1:08:55

with Rejji, his pain was so palpable through

1:08:57

his willingness to take

1:08:59

a criminal charge. over

1:09:02

digging up Billy's yard in the us

1:09:04

just how big a hole Alison's

1:09:06

disappearance has left in his heart.

1:09:09

appearances left in his heart

1:09:11

I called and said, because it is an

1:09:12

old laptop. Right here where this man

1:09:14

hasn't seen it for a month and

1:09:17

a half year. How

1:09:19

is that possible? But

1:09:20

apparently, it's not good enough for them.

1:09:22

You know,

1:09:23

it's not enough when someone

1:09:24

you love disappears

1:09:27

of your turn. Okay?

1:09:30

That'll end the very least. It is the day you'd

1:09:32

like to know that whoever which is

1:09:34

responsible for it, pay a

1:09:35

price for it. And you'd

1:09:37

also like to know where it

1:09:39

will range up more you'd

1:09:40

like to have some

1:09:42

kind of

1:09:42

clothes. My grandmother, both died. They were very lonely

1:09:45

hot book with

1:09:46

it because I tried my

1:09:48

best to

1:09:50

get her from October.

1:09:52

And I couldn't

1:09:53

my whole family's

1:09:54

going to have a ball,

1:09:56

and they have a grandparent's sister.

1:09:58

they're all gone. Your house is

1:10:00

just still be it would be.

1:10:02

Yeah. She

1:10:02

could drink. Yeah. And and

1:10:05

she's battle drugs before, you know,

1:10:07

but anything,

1:10:08

deserves anything like yesterday. I

1:10:10

mean,

1:10:10

she had a whole whole life

1:10:12

in front of

1:10:15

her

1:10:15

I mean, I just

1:10:16

know that they'll be really nice a

1:10:18

few words a day. It's not right. You know, when you

1:10:21

see somebody get

1:10:21

away with brothers and somebody, they're

1:10:24

like, wow.

1:10:26

I say

1:10:26

it takes a lot of faith. It

1:10:28

does. Did this journey right

1:10:31

here would be done that did

1:10:33

not not but this is

1:10:35

my sister it's really been a

1:10:37

a spiritual journey for me. And,

1:10:39

you

1:10:39

know, I I so appreciate

1:10:42

people like you, ma'am, that

1:10:43

get these stories out there for the people that hear it and stand

1:10:46

because there's a lot of there's a lot

1:10:50

of situations like this and I spoke to somebody some work and

1:10:52

can do something or heard something

1:10:54

or I don't know. Can make

1:10:56

a

1:10:57

call for somebody to

1:11:00

say, hey. Look at the bitch. We can't

1:11:02

let it be like this. So what happened to forty four

1:11:03

year old Alison Witten around

1:11:06

April eighteenth two thousand

1:11:08

sixteen? We know from

1:11:10

our timeline in part one that whatever happened to Alison likely happened in the twenty four hours

1:11:13

spanning from the evening

1:11:15

of April eighteenth,

1:11:17

into the next

1:11:20

day. We

1:11:20

weren't able to

1:11:21

find any indication that she was alive

1:11:23

after April nineteenth. and

1:11:25

have only a deceased man's word to others that

1:11:27

she was

1:11:27

alive on the morning of April nineteenth. With Alison's story,

1:11:30

there

1:11:31

are many possibilities. If

1:11:34

what Davis said was true, that she left his house angry after looking around for the drugs that she

1:11:36

told him to

1:11:39

save for her. We have

1:11:42

to consider the possibility that she went to seek out more drugs and that there could have been an overdose

1:11:47

or medical event. We also

1:11:49

have to consider Billy's violent temper in history of violence. We

1:11:51

didn't attempt to contact

1:11:53

Billy for

1:11:56

an interview. because he's currently in

1:11:58

criminal proceedings in an unrelated matter and has retained an attorney to represent

1:11:59

him in

1:12:04

this case. so we were

1:12:04

left to rely on his statements that he

1:12:06

gave to the police in the records we received. And one thing that nearly everyone

1:12:09

we spoke to

1:12:11

mentioned about Billy. was that he

1:12:13

had Alison's belongings after she disappeared, including her dog. Alison was known to

1:12:16

take

1:12:17

Winston everywhere

1:12:20

she went. Did

1:12:21

Alison go back to the home

1:12:23

she shared with Billy after leaving Davis's and something happened there? And then

1:12:24

there's a possibility

1:12:27

that she never left

1:12:29

Davis's alive? What if he harmed Alison out of jealousy? An accident in

1:12:31

an angry

1:12:32

confrontation

1:12:34

or some other

1:12:36

incident? but

1:12:38

we will never know his side of the story. There's

1:12:40

also the possibility that someone else

1:12:42

had a motive to kill Alison.

1:12:45

Maybe

1:12:45

she owed someone money or someone believed she owed

1:12:47

them something and took her life. And then there's that whole other situation

1:12:50

with

1:12:51

her former coworker. We

1:12:54

know

1:12:54

that Alison was seeking a protective order

1:12:56

right before she went missing. There

1:12:58

are so many unanswered questions, even down

1:13:01

to the details surrounding the basic facts

1:13:03

of her disappearance that there are

1:13:04

so many possible outcomes in this case,

1:13:07

but we may never know what

1:13:09

happened to Alison until

1:13:11

she found. Allison

1:13:12

was loved by so many people and still

1:13:14

it's. Those people continue to hold out hope for

1:13:15

answers and we hold out

1:13:18

hope that someone comes forward with

1:13:20

information. If

1:13:22

you

1:13:22

have any information about Allison Williams

1:13:24

disappearance, please call the Bay

1:13:26

County Sheriff's Office at 850747

1:13:30

forty seven hundred. I'm not I just don't

1:13:32

get it.

1:13:33

But there maybe I could go on

1:13:35

I could go on

1:13:38

no no change y'all. the man gave us a shit. I don't

1:13:40

know. I just wish somebody

1:13:42

somewhere would give something.

1:13:44

here's something

1:13:46

But I say it. But if this one, if it

1:13:48

wouldn't happen, now a Bible, he would

1:13:50

be in

1:13:51

prison right now. No doubt

1:13:53

my mind. I

1:13:55

know he would But yet,

1:13:56

he's living in the house with him in the house of golf.

1:13:58

I don't know how he does it, but he took her name

1:13:59

off of

1:14:02

it. I still would have he that. But, house together and

1:14:04

it's in both their names. The living

1:14:07

was something like this as

1:14:09

special as my

1:14:12

sister was. what it boils down to, and I

1:14:14

didn't know this. I've since learned that officer was the only

1:14:16

judge of the way that he acted with

1:14:18

the girl to swerve the street and the

1:14:20

thing. I've

1:14:22

got some stuff here that he

1:14:24

had written and all. He's a detective. And and no woman's

1:14:26

gonna leave. He's he killed my sister.

1:14:31

she was leaving. She didn't ever tell

1:14:33

me if

1:14:34

something happened. She did tell me.

1:14:36

Dave was gonna tell me one

1:14:38

day. She did say that to me.

1:14:40

But now I guess

1:14:41

to her brother and some of these other people, she said if something happened to me, it was Billy. She

1:14:43

never said that to me. But then, I've never used

1:14:45

drugs. Dave's has

1:14:47

nothing on me.

1:15:22

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1:15:28

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