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This is the Venus Cuckoldress podcast

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, a place to learn all things

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cuckolding for the curious , for

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the passionate and for the sexually

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empowered woman who wants it

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all . Let's

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go . Welcome to the show everyone . I'm your host , venus . Thanks so much for joining me . I have gianni

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, who's my guest . He goes by confident cuck . He is a blogger

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of the confident cuck blog . He's

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been on the podcast

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before . Way back in season one

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he talked about the

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question answering the question are stags

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cucks ? It was a really cool episode . But

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he's also been a guest on Pillow Talk before

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, on Live on Crowdcast , and that's where today's

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episode came from . He was recently my guest

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on Pillow Talk . We

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talk about all sorts of fun

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, interesting cuck perspective

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subjects , but one of my favorite

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aspects of this conversation is

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whatever you want to call it . There's

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been so many different names , I don't know . It's

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like reclamation

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or repenetration

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or reconnection

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or sloppy seconds whatever the fuck you want to call

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it . I don't know . There needs to be a better word

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for it , but anyway , it is

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hot as fuck , okay . So

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basically , when a cuck husband

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has sex with his wife right after

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she's been with her bull

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, there's something to me . It's a form

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of aftercare , it's almost

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like cleanup . It's just this very connecting

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kind of moment that you share together . That

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can be super hot because it's very cucky

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, so

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I'm just thinking about it . It's hot , anyway

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. So we're going to talk about that as

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part of our discussion for today's episode

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, and I love having Gianni

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on the show because he's always got

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great stuff to say

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and I learn so much from him every

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time we have a conversation , so it's

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a really great show . Make sure you stick around for

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the whole thing . But first , before

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we jump in , I have a

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couple of announcements . The first is

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I was recently a guest on

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the new Cuck my Life podcast

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, which is a group of guys who came

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together to make this new podcast

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called Cuck my Life , and

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it's really awesome and you should definitely have a listen

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, and I joined them on their show . I

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was talking about safety and support

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in the cuckolding lifestyle

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and it's just been released

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, so make sure you check it out . The link will

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be in the show notes for today or you can find

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it on Apple or Spotify . It's called Cuck

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my Life . Also

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, I recently put out a

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post on Twitter a question

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to everybody what's your favorite

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black content

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creator or bull in the lifestyle

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and it was a question that I had asked

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in the most recent interracial

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cuckolding live chat that I

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did in the Queens Quarters community and

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I wanted to kind of put it out there a little bit more like

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to everybody , so I posted it on

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Twitter . I also asked it

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on the Monapp in the community

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the cuckolding is love community on

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the moment app , because I really wanted to figure out

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like , okay , who , what's the top

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list here , who are is everyone's

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favorites , and it's been really

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fun to check out what

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everybody's been saying . So if you want to participate

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, or even just look the comments and figure out some

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new content creators or uh

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, whatever , just check it out . It's on my twitter

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profile at cuckoldress v

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or X , whatever . I'm not forever

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a blog called the Confident Cuck

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blog and him

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and I we've been friends for a minute

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. It's been going back for a long time now

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, I think ever since you started writing

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, maybe before that , I don't remember . Yeah

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, it's been a long time . So welcome , gianni

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, to Pillow Talk . Is this the first time you've

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been on Pillow Talk or the second ?

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No , I think this might be the third or fourth

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. I've been on with Drew and

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Harmony , I've been

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once on with just you , I've been

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on your podcast , so we've

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yeah , like you said , and sometimes we call

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each other with some frustrations about some

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things in the lifestyle . So

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, yeah , I would have to go through and count them all up

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to be 100% sure .

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See , I totally forgot how many times

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you've been on here . I

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always enjoy having you on as a guest

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. Your perspective is awesome

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. Your blog is great and I remember when

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it first came out and I was like intrigued

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by the title the Confident Cuck . So

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for those of you , for the people

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who are listening , who aren't familiar with your

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blog , what's it all about ?

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Yeah . So seeing your original

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podcast and seeing you go on some shows

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showed me how much being a cuckold

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could be valued , and especially

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by the woman , as opposed to a lot of the porn that

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just kind of treats the cuck like a piece of dirt

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, for lack of a better term and seeing

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that really got me to look inside myself and say , okay

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, what do I want out of this ? I don't just want to be

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an ashtray for somebody , but I do want to have a

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meaningful , loving cuckold relationship

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. And then , once I realized that about myself

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and developed that over a couple of years

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, I started being like oh , this is actually the only type of relationship

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I want . I basically see it as kind

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of like a sexual orientation

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, for lack of a better term . It really is like

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part of my intimate identity and

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as a cuckold I feel very confident

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being a cuckold . I I kind of depart with

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some other cucks that are into a

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lot of like feminization and sissification

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stuff and that I feel not that you

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can't be confident with that , but I feel very masculine

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when I'm a cuck . I feel very masculine

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when you know I get to repenetrate . I feel

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very , very masculine when I get to eat a cream pie

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and and all that great stuff . So I

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just started . I was like I have to write about this . Nobody

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else is talking about this . So I started typing it up . You

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found my blog . We shared stuff . I was like , hey , we have a lot in

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common here . So

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, yeah , that's basically what it's all about , just kind of having that perspective

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of what really doesn't

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mean to be a cook . I have one blog that's

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very popular about does size

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matter ? And talking

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about kind of what it feels like dealing with some

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of the inadequacies of size . And I'm not a very

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small , you know . I have a relatively thick

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six incher , so not terrible on

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the size scale , but obviously there's always going to be somebody bigger

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and kind of going over . Okay , how can

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I be okay with myself ? But also , really like the size

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queen , you know , energy that a lot

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of cuckoldresses have and

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yeah , just kind of all that wrapped up is

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really what got me writing about cuckolding and

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I think I have like 32 articles

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on my blog and

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yeah , I've been very busy as of late , but I

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do plan to be writing a bit more on it because

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there's just so much that goes into cuckolding

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and the mentality behind it and , especially from my perspective

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of really loving it , it finding

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my masculinity uh being promoted through

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it yes

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.

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so I wanted to ask you about that because , like

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you said that you , when

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you learned about this kind of different

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aspect of being a cuck , that's

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different from what's portrayed , um

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, instead of like rejecting

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that label , the cuck , you

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embraced it because , like I'm

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at I'm bringing this up because , like I

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ended up speaking to the

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guy from tumblr who

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came up with the word stag and

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he created that word because

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he said there was a need for something

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other than cuck , because the cuck label

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didn't resonate with somebody who was masculine

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, who somebody was alpha-ish

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or who enjoyed cuck things

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but didn't want to feel weak . So

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he came up with that word stag

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and it caught on with

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a lot of guys who just didn't feel like

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that word , that label cuck resonated

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with them . So , but

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for you , you were like you

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didn't reject the cuck label . You're

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like , nah , fuck it , I'm going to embrace

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it and embrace it in a way that does feel

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strong and confident

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and masculine and all

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of those things . How come you didn't reject

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it ? How come you were like , oh no

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, no , this is me actually .

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Yeah , and I actually have one blog post that

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goes over that too , where I go over the cuck

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spectrum and I say from stag to sissy , because

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I feel like there are different levels that you can be . But

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to me , the whole cuckold dynamic

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because I've met so many people in the lifestyle

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too , especially after you and I started

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talking and started to go to different parties

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and meet with other people and a

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lot of guys that I met that would talk about

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the stag label not every

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single one , but a lot of them were very

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much having the same feelings that I was having , were very

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much having a lot of the same cuckold dynamics

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that wanted to see their girl with a bigger

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man , that loved that size , queen energy , that loved

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eating cream pies and stuff . And I feel

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like if you're confident enough , it doesn't really matter

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what other people are going to call you . You

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know , being a man quote unquote

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, I think is looking at the world and not letting it

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tell you how you're going to act , but you decide how you're

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going to act . So once I

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started seeing people use that title , I was like

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I guess that kind of describes me . But

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also that's really just because a lot of the women I've been with haven't been that into

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humiliation , and for me the cuckolding is all about compersion . So if I was with a woman

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that was in the humiliation or any of

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that stuff , I would probably get right into it

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. So for

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me , the reason why I

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accept the cuck label so much is because one I

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think it's just that one way open relationship , but also

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I think it adds to that compersion element that

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OK , I'm doing this for the woman

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, I'm doing this because I want her

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to to lead in the sexual

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domain and then from there I

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can actually have my own sexual needs

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fulfilled even more . So

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, rather than trying to reject it and be like , oh , no , i't want to be called a cook , it's like , yeah , call

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me a cook . So what ? Like , yeah , I'll eat , I'll eat the fuck out of that cream pie , like

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you know and you can . And a lot of guys will make , oh

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, I'll bang your girl . It's like anybody who's saying

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that almost always doesn't have for

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lack of a better term the swag you know what

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I mean or

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the that

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they think that you know , a cuckold just is just

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automatically going to have sex with everyone . It's like

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, no , they're still picky , women are still women

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and they still want to . You know , have standards that you have to

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live up to . Um , so , really embracing

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the , the cuckold label and saying , no

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, I am a cuck Like

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I , I do want to let her lead in the relationship and that

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actually know , I need a new word just for me

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. You know , I think a lot of those guys actually , I

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think it's more insecure on their part . There are a few guys

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who they just kind of play with cuck

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elements in some parts of their relationship but

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they don't live it full , full

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time and I think for them

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, okay , they want to be a stag because they really don't get into

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any of the humiliation . Um , like

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, like , uh , mike from keys , uh , keys and anklets

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. He said that he likes the stag label because he does like to

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watch his woman sometimes , but it's very different . But

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that is a vast minority of of

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stags that I've ever heard of . Um , most other

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stags are like oh , you're really just a cuck . You're just afraid

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of being called a cuck , which is I don't know what words

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can't hurt me . I'm not . I'll

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just embrace that title and

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the most important part , alliteration . I mean confident

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cuck . It just sounds nice , so I had to embrace it .

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It does sound nice . So

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what does it like for guys out there who don't understand what cuckolding or cucks

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are ? What does it feel ? What does it really feel like to

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be a cuck ?

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I think that the biggest

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feeling is , honestly , gratitude , like

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when you actually are a cuck and you have

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a woman that says , hey , I understand

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that you have these kinks and these fetishes and

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all this stuff going on in your head and I

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want to be a part of that and support you . And

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they want to do it by exploring themselves

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rather than shutting themselves off and closing themselves

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off as society tells them to . I

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feel very grateful that , okay , I can share this with someone

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. And then , in letting the woman

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lead , I've learned a lot about myself that

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I I didn't know , for example . For

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example , like the vagina changes so

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much over the month . You

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know when a woman's in different parts of her cycles . You can

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have , you know , sex at different times and it feels

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tighter , it feels looser , it feels wetter

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, all these different types of things . And

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by opening up with myself , that

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allowed the women that I've been with to open

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up about themselves , so that way they don't feel uncomfortable

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or strange or oh no , I'm not wet enough down there , like

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, oh no , we can make it work whatever's actually

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going on with you . So

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I really like that . It

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gives me so much gratitude that , okay , I don't have the pressure of having to perform at a certain

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level . I know that you can have whatever

15:03

you want sexually , but you're going to be with

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me emotionally and in the relationship because

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you value me that much . And in terms

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of that confidence it really does bring so

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much confidence after my girl goes and

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fucks a 10-inch BBC and then she

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comes back to me and she just wants to be with me all night

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. Like that . You know nothing against or

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disparaging the bulls or anything , but it's just like wow

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, like I got something special here .

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So it really makes me feel

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grateful and confident . Stereotype is

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that you know

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if your woman isn't getting

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enough , whatever that might be , then

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you know you must be a cuck

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, like you can't be a

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cuck if you are enough for

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her . What are your thoughts

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on all of that ?

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I think that it's

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kind of hard to answer . It's a really good question , though . I

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think that when it comes to the inadequ answer , it's a really

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good question , though I think that when

16:02

it comes to the inadequacy , it's not that you're necessarily inadequate enough for her , because and this

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is something I've seen through multiple cucks that I've talked with whether

16:07

it's just online or meeting them at parties almost

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all of them bring this lifestyle up to

16:11

the woman . So it's not that the woman has this deep

16:13

, unfulfilled need that she's just trying to fill

16:15

and goes all crazy slutty

16:17

for everything . That's not what's happening most

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of the time . Normally , it's the guy that's saying , hey , I

16:26

want to do this other stuff . So in reality , that's kind of saying that the woman is sexually inadequate

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, whatever she's doing just by pleasuring him , just by being in a monogamous relationship

16:31

. So I think that when we're looking at the

16:33

inadequacies that a lot of cuck feel , I

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think it's really just that realization hold on , there is a bigger dick out there . There is , you know

16:43

, somebody who can reach spots that I might not be able to . There is , you know , the BBC for that . You know

16:45

, talk about the elephant in the room , and

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I think that the . It's kind

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of like with with working out I'm into lifting and stuff

16:52

but there's always a bigger , stronger guy . You know what I mean . There's always

16:54

an Arnold Schwarzenegger , there's always a Ronnie Coleman , whoever

16:56

it is so kind of

16:58

understanding that and knowing that and knowing that

17:00

even if she's going to have that , she can still come

17:02

back to you Like you can still appreciate his

17:04

muscles , his size , little fun quips with my

17:07

girlfriend at , like the grocery store

17:09

or stuff like

17:19

that that nobody could ever really know

17:21

, those like small little intricacies . However

17:23

, if we like go to see a comedy show

17:26

, obviously he's going to make her laugh harder . Obviously

17:28

there's going to be , you know , funnier jokes

17:30

and you know , do I feel inadequate with my

17:32

, with my humor because of that

17:34

? No , it's just , it's just different . And knowing that

17:36

, like if

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we were to measure it out and we were to like scale everything , yes , it

17:42

would be better , but I think everything is like really context dependent . So being okay

17:44

and having that comfort and , you

17:46

know , enough humility to say , yeah , that guy probably is

17:48

funnier , yeah , that guy is bigger than me , um

17:50

, but still , being like that's , that's fine . So I don't think you

17:52

necessarily need to be inadequate to be a cook , rather

17:56

. I think that you just have to recognize that there

17:58

is something else out there , and you wanting that

18:00

for your woman is actually , you

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know , to me shows an amazing sign of security

18:04

. Like I want you to have this , because I know

18:06

that it'll make you happier and it'll make our relationship stronger

18:08

.

18:10

Yeah , this whole myth of like you're , you

18:13

have to be everything for that one person

18:15

forever is like

18:18

it's so ridiculous . And if you're not , then

18:20

there's something just like so fucked up , like

18:23

what I

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think that we have generally as

18:28

a society of such a fucking narrow

18:31

, limited view about what sex

18:33

is , what sexuality is , what

18:35

sexual experience looks

18:38

like , smells

18:41

like , feels like like all of that that we're

18:43

really missing out on

18:45

so much . And I've

18:47

talked a lot in the past and

18:49

still , about how cuckolding

18:52

is a gift that you give to a woman if she

18:54

wants it , and it's

18:56

the gift of sexual exploration

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. Okay , you can go and talk about big dicks and black guys , and it's the gift of sexual exploration . Okay , you can go and

19:00

talk about big dicks and black guys and it's the gift about

19:03

all of that , and blah , blah , blah , whatever

19:05

. But let's face

19:07

it , this is about giving her the gift of being

19:09

able to explore her sexuality in

19:12

whatever way , shape or form she

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would like to , whatever that might look like

19:16

, shape

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or form she would like to , whatever that might look like , and that's amazing . It's

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a fucking tragedy , honestly , if a woman

19:25

isn't given that gift in her lifetime

19:27

, whether she gives it to herself or she's given

19:29

to it by her monogamous

19:32

partner . But it

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is a fucking tragedy if a woman goes through

19:36

her life without actually having gone

19:38

down that road and being able to , um

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really explore her own body

19:43

, her own sensations , her own desires

19:46

, her own pleasure . Um

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, oh , fuck man , that's just terrible

19:50

. I look at these like crazy ass fucking

19:52

traditional religious relationships

19:55

. I'm like , oh , woman , you have

19:57

no idea what you're missing out

19:59

on in this life .

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Yeah , and I feel so weird about that

20:04

. I would feel terrible if

20:06

a woman was only with me because she hadn't

20:08

experienced anybody else , if she only

20:10

thought I was funny because she never saw

20:13

George Carlin or Eddie Murphy . You know what I mean

20:15

. That seems like the worst . No , I want you to see all

20:18

that . I want you to experience all that and then come back

20:20

to me . And I know partially . This is because when I

20:22

was in my younger years I was a little bit of a

20:24

man whore , for lack of a better term . I went a little bit

20:26

wild , I had a little bit of a crazy time and

20:32

then kind of coming out of that and being like hold

20:34

, it's because I actually I wanted to give more

20:37

to the woman but there really wasn't ever that avenue

20:39

, there wasn't ever that . You know that , uh

20:41

, that outlet that I that I could find , until I

20:43

got into cuckolding and and once I saw past all

20:45

the porn stuff , I'm like wait a minute , I don't want to wear panties

20:47

, wait a minute , I don't want you to put out you know , want

20:49

to see you like get fucked by crazy . Or , honestly

20:51

, some of my best times

20:58

have been when I'm not even there , when

21:01

I'm not on video and I'm not doing anything , when

21:03

she just calls me after and tells me about it , or like I

21:05

can just hear a little bit on the phone . The

21:08

one line that I love is that I want her

21:10

to get lost with him so that way she can find

21:12

her way back to me . And like that , like

21:14

even saying it just makes me feel good , like even saying

21:16

it just makes me feel good .

21:17

I love that . Oh , that needs to be on a t-shirt

21:19

or a mug or something . I love

21:21

that . Okay , that brings me to my next question

21:24

. So how do you prefer to be cucked

21:26

, and why ? Because

21:29

I get this asked a lot . All the time . Guys are always wanting to ask

21:31

me , like , do you prefer to have

21:34

your cuck in the room , or do you

21:36

want him to watch ? Or like , what's

21:38

your preference ?

21:38

like I don't know why people are really obsessed with

21:40

knowing this stuff , but let's

21:43

ask you what's your preference yeah

21:45

, I definitely think a lot of people ask

21:47

because they just kind of want to explore kinks and fetishes

21:49

and they want to hear somebody say it . Um , but

21:51

me personally , I like with everything in

21:53

the couple relationship , I like her to lead , I like her to tell

21:56

me what she wants in that moment . It might be a time of the month

21:58

where she feels really sexy and very

22:00

you know , uh , very open

22:02

, and she wants to be watched . She wants to have like one or

22:04

two guys there . It might be a time where she just wants

22:06

to have like a toy and talk about something dirty . It

22:09

might be a time where you know she wants to do

22:11

her own thing and then just tell me about it after . So

22:13

I really like for her to decide

22:15

. But my favorite times really

22:17

are when and it's probably

22:19

a little bit of the denial aspect that I like but I

22:21

like being in my cage , being on my

22:23

phone , you know , hearing something like

22:25

not even you know , not even being there I can like

22:27

even put myself on mute and just

22:30

trying to imagine what's

22:32

going on in that moment and then

22:34

being called back after that . I mean that callback

22:36

, that that reconnection is like

22:38

that . That's when really just the the

22:41

stars go wild there , uh , but I

22:43

mean I do you know , obviously , if I can be there . I

22:45

like being there , but you know they have a . They have a

22:48

cuck chair , uh , for a reason . Um , I

22:50

think the logistics of actually like

22:52

trying to get involved a lot with cucks , like

22:54

oh , I'm gonna eat her pussy as he fucks her and

22:56

her legs and it like all that's like cool and fun

22:58

for porn , but I feel that the logistics

23:01

just end up being a little bit too hard . Sometimes it's

23:03

like let me sit in the chair , let me just , like , you know , sip

23:05

my , uh , my jack and coke and

23:07

just watch it unfold . And again you get

23:09

lost with him . And then , once you're done like

23:11

then you find your way back to me after like you've already

23:13

been like completely satisfied with that , and

23:15

then you need a different type of satisfaction , and then that's where

23:17

I commit and I'm like okay , you know you might

23:19

be able to be there for like the first three hours of the night , going

23:22

crazy , but I'm there like to sleep and cuddle with you and wake

23:24

up in the morning with breakfast ready on a plate

23:26

. So I definitely like that aspect

23:28

, I think , more than more than anything probably

23:30

.

23:32

Yeah , let's

23:42

talk that , because there's this term reclaiming hate , that fucking word . There's a part called

23:45

reconnecting , re-penetrative , re-penetrative sex . Like we

23:47

need to rebrand this shit , like , uh , we

23:49

need a good , we need a good term . So

23:52

for , for those of you who are

23:54

in the audience for pillow talk right now

23:56

, if you have some good

23:58

suggestions about what we can call this sex

24:01

with your wife after she's been with

24:03

a bull because for me

24:05

I feel like it's a form

24:07

of aftercare , same with cleanup

24:10

, and but

24:12

not everybody , I guess , thinks about it that way

24:14

but

24:16

yeah , it's

24:18

so hot

24:21

and very connecting

24:23

. But then again , there's a lot of these

24:25

guys out there who are like , oh , like hugs shouldn't

24:27

have sex with their wife . Like that

24:30

doesn't make any sense , like you're

24:32

not good enough . Why would you want to give that to

24:34

her and not

24:36

realizing that , like for

24:38

me , I'm like it's

24:40

so hot on for so

24:43

many reasons and you talked about

24:45

the her finding her way back to

24:47

you part . That's really special for you

24:49

, so that makes it special .

24:52

I also love the fact that , like if

24:54

she feels different inside to

24:56

you like that's

24:59

hot as fuck If she says something about , if she comments

25:01

about that , that's hot as fuck .

25:01

If she says something about , if she comments about that , that's

25:04

a hot as fuck , okay . And

25:06

then , yeah , just the little

25:08

bit of story time that you can get during

25:11

that time that you guys are together , and

25:13

how hot that is

25:15

for me . Also , I

25:17

have some I can't remember what somebody called it I

25:20

have some sort of fetish where

25:22

guys who

25:25

can't last very long because they're

25:27

like overly turned on . So

25:29

for me the whole like sex

25:32

after I've been with a bull is super

25:34

hot if , like , I am

25:36

really stretched out and that turns him

25:38

on so bad . And or maybe I say a

25:40

comment and it like

25:43

yeah , I love it when cucks just get

25:45

go overload , turned on overload

25:47

, and they're just like , oh , and then

25:49

then they just fucking lose it , they just come like

25:52

so fast , I don't know , I

25:54

just love that so much .

25:58

I hear that . No , I I'm . That

26:01

is , it's funny . Before we

26:03

got on here I said you're probably going to make something that makes me squirm

26:05

and you're doing it Because that is that

26:08

is like my favorite . And the most

26:10

recent time that I had repetitive sex

26:12

, you know I told you I had some personal stuff going on

26:14

, so I won't go into that . But the last time that we had

26:17

a bull and he fucked her

26:19

and

26:23

like afterwards she it's funny you were on

26:25

one show and somebody asked you how much cum is actually

26:27

still in there after you have sex , especially if you

26:29

cum home . It's probably not a lot . So

26:33

the cream pie cleanup is more , like you said , more of an

26:35

aftercare thing rather than and

26:37

I got some hate online because one time I said I don't really

26:39

care about eating the cum , I

26:45

really just care about going down or after she's been fucked , because the pussy's more swollen and

26:47

when you have sex at that time like for a cuck it is it is like more stretched

26:49

out but also it's swollen , so it's like tighter

26:51

but like , it's like trying like to hold on but

26:53

like there isn't as much in it . And the last time

26:56

we did it like I just she got on

26:58

top of me and she's like , and I

27:00

got down and I was like , oh my gosh , how does that feel ? And

27:02

she was like you're so small compared to him

27:04

and like , with less than 30 seconds I just

27:06

like unloaded inside of her and it it

27:09

was so much like

27:11

. I went down on her after that and I was like , oh , that was

27:13

like the most come after her had an agreed

27:15

by . I was like , wow , this is a lot Cause

27:17

obviously I wanted to make her come after that . But that feeling

27:20

when like it it's swollen and

27:22

like open but like like it's

27:24

so hard to describe . But that is like the best sex . Like

27:26

when I can feel like okay , my penis

27:28

is barely doing anything right now because you

27:30

just got fucked by a cock , like that

27:33

is just feeling like , okay , this pussy is a goddess pussy and

27:38

I am really like serving it in . Have that freedom

27:40

. That like you really can just like come so

27:42

quickly because you know that she's been fucked , you've done this and you

27:44

just want to give everything to her . Like it

27:46

was literally less . And I afterwards I'm like I'm sorry . And

27:48

she was like no , I like it , just like you're

27:50

like alex . And I was like like melting

27:53

there . So , yeah , that is that

27:55

. That repenetrative sex is like the

27:57

like that is like the pinnacle

27:59

for me as a cuck and like I just had like

28:01

cum coming down my balls and like her pussy was like oh

28:03

, and like just the swollen pussy is

28:06

just the best pussy ever . Like it tastes so good

28:08

, like there's more juices .

28:09

It's oh , oh , I love

28:11

it I

28:14

remember this like okay , it was

28:16

a long time ago now , but like it

28:19

was um . I was in

28:21

a hotel I had just I had

28:23

a weekend of black guys that I fucked

28:25

, so there's a lot and

28:28

this cuck that I

28:30

was with um . I

28:32

don't exactly remember how it happened , but like

28:34

he wanted to penetrate

28:36

me afterwards and for some

28:38

reason I let him , but not

28:40

like normal sex , like I

28:43

think . Oh no , it was he

28:46

. I was so stretched out and he

28:49

put his hand in me and

28:51

then I can't remember if I told him

28:53

to put his little wiener in next to it , but

28:55

he did , and

28:59

then he was like jerking himself off

29:01

inside my pussy . And

29:06

I was just laughing because I

29:08

was like , oh my God , that's

29:11

funny .

29:13

So it was memorable .

29:16

It was memorable , but like I mean , maybe

29:19

that's where this fetish came from , but

29:21

like it was so hot . I I don't

29:23

know just the fact that I was like so stretched out like

29:25

that and that he was able to do that and like

29:28

it was , it

29:30

was just such a cuck thing yeah

29:33

, and I've had .

29:34

I've had times like that too , where I

29:36

like shower sex a lot , just because I like

29:38

being in the heat and the steam . Um , but obviously

29:40

, logistics wise , it's always a little bit hard , especially because

29:43

, yeah , you know being a cuck , obviously I like being in the heat and the steam , but obviously , logistics wise , it's always a little bit hard , especially because

29:45

you know being a cock . Obviously I like girls with big booties . I mean , come on , who

29:47

doesn't ? But a lot of times it's hard

29:49

, you know , even with six inches it's hard to get like right up in

29:51

that angle and stuff . So what

29:53

me and my lady have done is I'll just like

29:55

have my cock like sliding up and down her ass

29:57

cheeks and I can like just come from that

30:00

and like she told me that it makes her feel

30:02

so powerful that like she doesn't even need like

30:04

penetration to like have me come . So I'll

30:06

just like be doing that and she'll be like you

30:09

know , she'll like say like our bull's name and like oh , you can't

30:11

, you know , do what he could . Like you can't get all the way there he could

30:13

, he would be already inside me right now and it's just like

30:16

, right there it feels so good

30:18

and I , I love that like moment where , like

30:21

I , it feels so good when it

30:23

, when it really does feel like she can't feel anything , cause I'm like , oh

30:25

shit , like this , for me it's just like this is a goddess

30:27

pussy , this is a pussy that deserves more than

30:29

me . I feel amazing , I feel lucky to be here and

30:31

I want her to have more . So the fact that I know that

30:33

she has more and then when I'm there , I feel

30:36

that realization that , oh , she really

30:38

can take more , that is , oh

30:40

, I'm kidding , yeah . And one other

30:42

thing at that point too , I always think like , especially

30:45

it's funny . You mentioned before how a lot of people don't like explore

30:47

themselves , and I feel like that's very true for

30:49

men , especially our sexuality . We

30:57

just we're just like , okay , stick it in and it should feel

30:59

good and yada , yada , yada , that crazy . And I obviously

31:01

wasn't that connected to , you know the girl . We were teenagers

31:03

, it wasn't that crazy . But

31:06

then , after getting into chastity and stuff , I was like , oh

31:08

, this feels like tight on my cock

31:10

right now , like it feels like really tight on here and that feels

31:12

really good . This must be what the bulls feel

31:14

like when the pussy's on them because their cock is so

31:16

big . So I feel like the tightness you know , the

31:18

tightness for a cock is just in the cage . That's all you have

31:20

to do that's

31:23

so funny .

31:24

That's where they get the tight sensation . Yeah

31:27

, you know somebody ? You were talking about positions

31:29

because , like um

31:31

, there are lots

31:33

of positions where guys with

31:36

big dicks couldn't handle like it's no

31:38

problem , they're not slipping out . But like guys

31:40

who are smaller , it's like good luck

31:42

, honey , you're not going to be able to sustain

31:45

that . You're going to be fucking falling out every

31:47

two seconds . Oops

31:49

, where'd it go ? Oh , it's out again

31:52

. One

31:54

of my very favorite positions is one

31:56

that only guys with long dicks can

31:59

do . It's so funny

32:01

because when I talk about it , the women are like

32:03

oh , yes

32:06

, like guys with small dicks , be like , I

32:08

don't know that one .

32:09

I don't know that position yeah , and

32:11

I've actually had small penis envy where

32:14

like sometimes I'll be , you know , because , like

32:16

I said , like for for most girls like that

32:18

, you know , aren't size queens like six inches is normally enough

32:20

and I'm relatively thick . So I've

32:22

been at times like where it has been like the time of the month

32:24

where she's like really tight and I'm going in and like we're fucking

32:26

and like it's good , it's nice . But part of me , like

32:28

envy , is like damn , like I wish sometimes . I wish

32:30

it was a little bit smaller so there could be like a bigger difference between

32:32

her and her bowl and stuff . Because I've like been at humiliation

32:35

doesn't always hit that hard with me , cause it's like you really

32:37

got to like have

32:45

it massive , like to really see the difference there . Um

32:47

, but yeah , I , I like it's

32:50

. It's so funny how some guys are like I want a bigger dick , I want

32:52

a bigger cucks out there who are , you know , say to their partner they tell her

32:54

like

33:09

I don't have any boundaries

33:11

, like you're free to do whatever

33:13

you want to me , kind of thing , and

33:16

I was like oh , that's very good

33:18

.

33:18

Like I don't know , I just feel like you're playing with fire

33:20

there , like and , and not only that , but if

33:23

she's new to cuckolding , that's not very good with like guiding

33:25

her along , like if you know what

33:27

, if she does fuck up , then she's gonna

33:29

be scared to try anything . But anyway , what are your

33:31

thoughts on that ? Like I like

33:34

for the guys who say , like you know , I don't

33:36

have any boundaries , do you think that's true

33:38

or is this something that they just like really

33:40

think is really hot ?

33:46

Yeah , it's that they think it's really hot . It's that they think that they are going to be sexier and

33:48

kinkier than anything she can imagine . So they're just okay with anything . And when you permit

33:50

anything , it's the same thing as permitting nothing . You're not giving

33:52

any guidance . You really aren't . So

33:54

what me and my partner do in

33:56

our relationship is we say that

33:58

we have veto power , so like if there's anything

34:01

that either of us doesn't want to do , we

34:03

can say veto . We don't want to do that . So one

34:05

of the things that's come up is

34:07

people that I work with or that she works with

34:10

. We don't want to mix work and play

34:12

for a bunch of variety of reasons . So

34:14

, nobody that you work with , no family members

34:16

. That really is the only

34:19

thing that we've come to . But there are other boundaries

34:21

that you can add . For example , I don't really like

34:23

anal play . I've tried to get into it . I

34:26

just , you know , even one finger

34:28

is too much for me . It's funny because I see the

34:30

pegging stuff and I'm like that looks so hot , but I just

34:32

I guess I'm not man enough to take that . Yeah , I got to , got

34:34

to , got to man up for it , but

34:36

but yeah , I think that you have to have some level of

34:38

boundaries and just be honest about what makes you feel uncomfortable

34:41

. I think that a lot of people they by

34:44

by acting like they don't have a boundary . They

34:50

, they , they . It just shows kind of an immaturity on their part that they've never done anything that

34:52

they , you know , haven't been like . Oh wait , a minute , I don't like this . And

34:54

one of the things that I've done is in my younger years I

34:57

had a bunch of three ways with girls where

34:59

it would be me and two girls and we'd hook up . And

35:01

there were a couple of times where I had trouble keeping it up . During that

35:03

I was like wait , what's going on Again . This was before . Like

35:05

I kind of had my cuckold awakening , but

35:08

at that time I was just like why

35:10

isn't like this working ? I should like be into this and

35:12

stuff . And it was because I like

35:14

focusing on one woman , I like giving her that attention

35:16

and I like seeing her with multiple men

35:18

giving her attention and just focusing on her . That

35:20

is what really makes me feel great . So

35:23

she asked me in the beginning well , do you want to

35:25

do any three ways ? And pretty much every girl

35:27

that I've had any cuckolding with . They ask that to you Are

35:29

you trying to hook up with the girls ? And I'm like no , no , that

35:31

is definitely one of the hard boundaries . I don't want

35:33

to do . That that takes away from this . I

35:37

want to be focused on you . The girl like with herself

35:39

, that's okay , but like to have like me , like

35:41

banging both of them , it just it doesn't

35:43

like feel right for my sexuality , my

35:45

sexual orientation . So I think that you

35:47

really just have to dig deep and be like okay , what do you not

35:49

like ? And also , obviously , the big four

35:51

, you know no scat , no blood , no kids , no animals

35:53

. You know what I mean . Obviously , those should kind of

35:55

go without saying . Um , but some people are , you

35:58

know , even into play and stuff like that

36:00

. I don't do any age play . I've

36:02

only ever dated older women . To be honest

36:04

, if anything

36:07

, I definitely like the MILF a lot more . To

36:09

be honest , I think the teen category is a little bit yikesy

36:11

, but hey , people do what they like

36:13

as long as everyone's 18 , they're older , whatever . But

36:16

yeah , I think you do

36:18

have to have some limits and say what you want . And , as a cuckold , it

36:20

should be a limit that you don't want to like have sex

36:22

with other women . That should be something you you don't want

36:25

to do . If you do want to do that , then hold on you

36:27

. You just want to be a swinger or you just want

36:29

to have humiliation fetish , like figure

36:31

out what you want to do . But

36:36

if you , a lot of times people of that , they're just like anything

36:38

, anything please . My dull , boring monogamous life

36:40

. Please spice it up . And it's like just

36:42

figure out what you want . Take a minute , take a breath , find

36:45

support , like figure out what stuff you like and

36:47

don't like , and and you should be able to figure that out

36:49

yeah

36:52

, um , okay , so this question got lots of votes

36:55

in the question poll , um

36:57

, so I'm gonna go ahead and tackle this

36:59

one .

37:00

If a guy is unsure of whether or

37:02

not he should try cuckolding , what

37:05

advice would you give him If

37:07

he's not ?

37:08

sure , that's what I would say

37:10

. Again , it kind of

37:12

goes back to what you're saying . So many people are , like , afraid

37:14

of failure or like , afraid of like and not

37:16

being perfect , and the weight of perfection

37:19

like weighs on them so much that it causes

37:21

them not to ever act or want everything to

37:23

be perfect . Or you know , oh , that guy didn't have

37:25

a tennis stick . You can't bang it like , shut up , like like

37:27

, even if you have a girl that has , like you know , a preference

37:30

for black guys or whatever , she's probably gonna find some

37:32

guy attractive . Um , one , one of the

37:34

things uh , I meant to say this before but we were

37:36

just talking about so much I forgot about it . Um , but

37:38

one of the things that I like to do is to go out to

37:40

like a club or someplace

37:43

where dancing is going on and then just

37:45

let my girl find anybody that she'll

37:47

be interested in . And most of the time she

37:49

doesn't find anybody because you know they

37:51

have to do a lot to win her over , especially when she knows

37:53

she's got me at home and you know all the different toys

37:55

that we can have fun with . So it's like all right , random

37:57

guy , you're fine . But by having

37:59

that freedom to go out and to do whatever

38:01

you want without saying , okay , no , we have to do this , we have

38:04

to find this , just explore it . If

38:06

you don't like it , that's okay

38:08

. If you let that ruin your relationship , that you

38:10

tried something that you didn't like , then you had some other

38:12

issues going on and something else was going to ruin the relationship

38:14

. I think that people get way too attached

38:16

to their relationships as part of their

38:18

identity rather than a , you know , a

38:21

supplemental part of their life . It's

38:27

like we were talking about earlier , where people expect one person to be everything for you

38:29

and no , they're not your therapist , you know they're not your doctor

38:31

. No , they're your partner . So they're going to do some things

38:33

. You're going to do some things , so be free to

38:35

make mistakes with each other and then come back and say you

38:37

know what , actually I didn't like X

38:39

so much , I didn't like Y so much , z

38:41

was kind of fun , but maybe if we did it differently

38:44

this way and just being able to have that open

38:46

conversation so if you're afraid of doing it , just

38:48

try it . Worst case scenario you learn that you don't

38:50

like it and then if you have a good relationship

38:52

, you'd be like , okay , that's fine , and if

38:54

she has her cuckoldress awakening and she's like

38:57

actually , this is something I really want , did you really want , did you really

38:59

want her to be with you ? If it was just because

39:01

she never knew the side of her that she loved , like you

39:03

guys would have broken up anyway , like yeah

39:05

, so stop being a pussy man up , go

39:07

fucking eat a cream pie . Yeah

39:11

, you see this .

39:13

You see this often , like our

39:15

at least . I see this often where guys are like on

39:17

the fence about oh I don't know , I don't

39:19

, should I , should I not

39:21

? And the kind of like one day all

39:23

in , next day like , and

39:26

my advice is actually quite the

39:28

opposite . I'm like , if you're not sure

39:30

, then don't fucking

39:32

do it , because I feel like

39:34

you have to do some work on yourself

39:36

first . If you know

39:39

, and maybe that if

39:41

it's just because you're just not courageous enough

39:43

to try something that you're nervous

39:45

about , then maybe

39:47

it is about like just you know , realizing

39:49

that this is that you think

39:52

about , okay , the potential consequences

39:54

. Well , the consequences could be good

39:56

, like you know . It could be good

39:58

yeah so you just have to go for

40:00

it and find out . There's that part of it

40:02

. But I think a lot of the times , the

40:05

struggles that guys have is that this will change

40:08

them in a negative way in some , in

40:10

some form . So , um

40:13

, and then it'll , it'll that

40:15

they'll . They'll think about themselves differently

40:17

, their partner will think about themselves different

40:19

, she won't respect me the same , and or

40:21

it's going to be , you know , detrimental to the

40:23

relationship or whatever you know . I do

40:26

feel like there is some work that guys need

40:28

to do on themselves with figuring out

40:30

their own internal fucking world before

40:32

they should jump into cuckolding , and

40:35

whether that be going to see a

40:37

cake , friendly therapist or just

40:40

having the skill communication skills to

40:42

be able to effectively communicate with your partner

40:44

, to talk about these things , before you actually go

40:46

down that road . But there are things that

40:48

need to be done before you should just fucking jump

40:51

into it because you

40:54

want to make sure that this is going to be something

40:56

that you either . Either you're

40:58

going to be like , yep , that's exactly what

41:00

I want to do , it's always what I want to , like it

41:03

was great , like it fits who I am , or

41:05

you try it out . You're like , yeah , it's not everything

41:08

I thought it would be . Maybe I'll try something

41:10

else kind of thing , but I

41:12

think there's caution .

41:14

I think , on that note too , there's kind of like

41:16

two elements to it . There's the one element of

41:18

you have to really know what you

41:20

want in the first place , and I think

41:23

some people think it's kind of all or nothing that

41:25

if you're doing cuckolding , like OK , if I'm going to

41:27

do it , I have to have a five-guy gangbang

41:29

and go out . No

41:32

, you can just play with the toy at first . You can just tell your partner

41:34

that you think it'd be sexy for her to do X

41:36

. You don't have to . When

41:43

I say , stop being a pussy and go into it , I mean like take the first step . And I

41:45

think a lot of guys are afraid of just that first step . But I think the second part of that is

41:47

there's the fear of losing the taboo . I've

41:49

seen this with a lot of different guys that have contacted

41:51

me , where the thought of making

41:54

it real and accepting this side of themselves

41:56

they don't verbalize it all the

41:58

times , but I can see it like just so clearly

42:00

that they are afraid that if they actually

42:02

accept it and if they like it , then they'll no

42:04

longer get that rush from having it be a taboo

42:07

, having it be a bad thing that they're breaking . So

42:09

because of that , they're like oh no , I'm not going to like

42:11

it . And I'm here on the other side telling

42:13

you guys , no , it gets better , it

42:15

doesn't feel bad when you don't feel shame about it . I

42:17

promise it feels really good , like

42:19

, and you can still like , have all like your cultural

42:21

, social like , social shame or whatever , if you want , but

42:24

personally and in your you know interpersonal relationship

42:26

with your partner , you can just accept . Okay , hey , this

42:28

is something we both find hot . Maybe maybe

42:30

I like cuckolding and I like the fetish , but I only want to

42:32

use toys . Maybe I like cuckolding and I

42:34

like the fetish , but you know , you can only have one

42:37

guy at a time , because I get too jealous and nervous

42:39

with a whole bunch of people around . Maybe she doesn't

42:41

like being with a whole bunch of different guys and

42:43

she only wants to have strict

42:45

rules around it . And I feel like you do have

42:47

to just take that first step . But , yeah , don't

42:49

go all the fucking way and don't be afraid that

42:51

you're going to lose something by it not

42:54

being taboo anymore , by you just accepting this part of

42:56

yourself .

42:57

That's an interesting insight . Now , I hadn't thought

42:59

about that , but yeah , I definitely

43:01

see how the fear of losing the taboo

43:03

would be a thing . Excellent

43:06

point that you brought up about not

43:08

having like don't jump in headfirst . You

43:10

don't have to go dive right into the deep

43:12

end when it comes to cuckolding for your first time . I

43:15

know this is like this

43:17

is shocking for a lot of guys because this is something

43:19

they've been focusing on for so long is like

43:22

the , the fantasy of her

43:24

, you know , doing cuckold level

43:26

10 and um , yeah

43:29

, the rest of us are out here going actually

43:32

, there's a fucking shit ton of fun that you can

43:34

do that doesn't even involve another guy

43:36

. Like , and it still has fun

43:38

. You can have fun playing around with this cuckolding

43:40

fantasy stuff . So , like a lot

43:42

of fun . Like you can fucking get off a

43:45

gazillion times and you will just

43:47

by , yeah , playing around with the flirting

43:49

part or the fantasy talk

43:51

or the toys or like , like , it's

43:54

, it's just it's , it's not that

43:56

there's a ton of creative things that you can

43:58

do , um , around that

44:00

. Okay , I wanted to ask

44:02

you or no , somebody else had a question here what

44:04

? What was your ? Did

44:06

you have a turning point where you knew

44:08

you were a cuck .

44:11

And I think it was honestly . I think

44:13

you were on the Priority Society

44:15

podcast and when I was listening

44:17

to that episode , I remember

44:19

I think it was that episode and

44:21

they asked you what if you just

44:24

like found like the perfect bull and you wanted to have a relationship

44:26

with him and you said , no , I'd still

44:28

want a cuck , like , I still want this . And

44:30

when I heard that , that kind of

44:32

made me be like , oh , wait a minute , this is

44:34

so different . Like the female

44:37

mind is so different than like what my you know

44:39

, young 20 something mind was thinking at the time

44:42

and and I was like , okay , there can be a

44:44

real loving , cuckold relationship here . And that's when

44:46

I really started to explore

44:48

it . That's when I really started to be like , okay

44:50

, what , what's actually happening psychologically

44:52

here and intimately . And at

44:54

that point I realized I can have all

44:56

the intimacy and love of a relationship

44:58

with my wildest kinks if

45:00

I'm just honest and open about it . And

45:02

you know it was a little bit rocky at first

45:05

when I tried to bring it up to you know the

45:07

, because I was single at the time and started dating some girls

45:09

and and it you know I made

45:11

the mistake of trying to go a little bit at first , too much , like

45:13

I just want to see . You know I made the mistake of trying to go a little

45:15

bit head first too much , like I just want to see you know , fuck like two

45:17

or three guys , what's the big deal ? So I had

45:19

to like mature a little bit through that . But

45:22

but that was really the turning point when I was like , oh

45:24

wait , a minute , I can be valued , even like

45:26

again , not to disparage bulls at all but I can be

45:28

valued like more than the bull in this relationship . That

45:40

is something that I hadn't really thought of and really developed

45:42

my understanding of . So after I started looking at

45:44

that I was like , okay , there really is a lot here going on psychologically

45:47

. And just on the other point that you said we were talking

45:49

about , before .

45:49

If you want to eat a cream pie , try to eat your own first .

45:51

If you can't eat your own , you probably shouldn't . Good advice yeah , like , do it

45:53

at home first . Like , yeah , just do that , you're

45:55

fine . So , yeah , like , that was definitely a turning

45:57

point . And also chastity was a really

46:00

big turning point for me Because at

46:02

first again , I'm not into the feminization , I'm not into

46:04

the cissification . I'm like I don't want to have a clit , like I still

46:06

have a dick , like call it a penis , don't like that

46:08

. It kind of like disparages women , that like you have to be embarrassed

46:10

to be a woman or feminine . It

46:19

just rubs me the wrong way and , hey , everybody's got their kinks , do

46:21

what you want to do . But for me

46:23

, kind of being like , oh wait , a minute , this is a

46:25

sensation on my penis that I had never

46:28

felt before and I was locking myself

46:30

off to this because I was just using my hand or

46:32

you know what I mean A vagina that I

46:34

didn't fill up as much as you know , as

46:36

much as could be . So after having

46:38

that I was like , oh wait , a minute , there's so much

46:40

more to learn about my own sexuality , my own body

46:42

, and that was something I learned like later on in my journey

46:45

too . So I think that those are kind of the

46:47

two big things like , oh wait , a minute , chesty , now

46:49

I see it as like armor that I'm putting on for my day

46:51

, like to go fight for my queen , like this is my

46:53

, this is my armor , I'm , I'm her knight , right

46:55

there , ready to take care of my queen , and

46:58

then also being like I really like

47:04

she does value me , she still wants me in her court as

47:06

her queen . You know to go on with the analogy , like she always wants

47:08

me there . She doesn't want to like , just push me off for for

47:24

one of the black Kings .

47:25

She really you wrote about in your blog was

47:27

talking about the knight in armor , kind of thing

47:29

, and I was like , yes , I can totally understand that , kyle is

47:32

why is it so hard to find a bull ? How

47:35

do you do it ? What makes for a good bull for

47:39

you and how

47:41

do you find a good bull ?

47:45

What makes a good bull is definitely humor

47:47

more than anything . Anybody can

47:49

have a big dick . Anybody can be attractive

47:51

. That's not that hard to find . To be honest

47:53

, it's really having that humor

47:56

because

47:58

when you're in the bedroom things aren't always going

48:00

to go as planned . There's a famous quote I think it's by Klaus

48:03

, one of the famous military generals

48:05

. That's the battle plan does not

48:08

survive first contact . As soon

48:10

as you get in there , things are going to go awry

48:12

. So things are going to be weird , things are going to be off

48:15

. You have to be able to laugh it off and jump

48:17

right back into it and not take yourself too seriously

48:19

. So like humor is a really big

48:21

thing . That like we can joke around , that like

48:23

he can make jokes about like size and

48:25

stuff like that without it being like derogatory and like

48:27

putting you down , and that like we're all

48:29

respecting everybody's consent . That like we

48:31

like there there aren't really a lot of boundaries

48:34

that I've had with my cuckoldress , but there

48:36

are a lot of boundaries that we have with like

48:38

the bull about what we're going to do , and it's more for safety

48:40

stuff . It's not really any sexual stuff that we can't necessarily

48:42

do . It's just okay . Like if I say this

48:44

stop , like I'm not saying it's . You know , I'm

48:46

not saying stop in a sexy way . I'm saying stop because I

48:49

don't like this . You know , don't slap here

48:51

, don't do this . Those aren't really those . Have come

48:53

up with some women I've dated , but that's not normally

48:55

the biggest ones . Normally it's it's

48:57

just things around safety and making sure that everybody's

48:59

having a good time . So that communication

49:01

is the biggest thing . And to find bulls

49:03

it , it is really hard , which is , to

49:05

be honest , some of the best experience we have haven't

49:07

even really been with bulls . Like I've said , she just she'll

49:10

call me and they won't even know . Like if it's somebody

49:12

that she hooks up while we're out , like she'll

49:14

kind of tell them that , like she's cheating on me for

49:16

lack of a better term , like you know , in more words than that

49:19

um , and she'll just like call me and like

49:21

leave the phone on and they won't really know and I'm just like listening

49:23

to this and then , like she calls me after and we

49:25

like reconnect . At that point that's really hot

49:27

because they kind of don't know about it and it's

49:30

, you know , it's our own thing that we're having there

49:32

. So that

49:34

has been honestly the best experiences that we have . But

49:36

there have been a few sex parties that we've gone to , where

49:39

, like , when we're there , different people

49:41

wear like different bracelets or whatever , and

49:43

then you meet somebody and that's been good . We haven't

49:45

had any good luck online . She's

49:48

also a little bit more reserved and really picky

49:50

and whenever not to

49:52

, you know , talk too much about my partner or anything

49:54

. But this is something for women in general . A

49:56

lot of them are women , have

49:58

different standards than men . Like a lot of men , we would

50:00

just bang anybody we could , because you know

50:03

selection theory and desperation and whatever

50:05

other factors go into it . But women

50:07

tend to have higher standards and to want specific

50:10

men for specific things . And you know

50:12

you could have two men that look exactly the same and a guy would be like

50:14

why , what's the difference ? But willing to be like

50:16

, do you not like see the difference ? Do you not like

50:18

see how they hold themselves and all that . So

50:21

really letting her decide and not trying to

50:23

force her to do anything , I think

50:25

is the best way to go about it . And then trying

50:27

to find , you know , somebody that again has that communication

50:29

, has that humor and

50:38

, and I think if you just go out and you just meet people . You , you can find them . You know they're probably not going to be a lifelong bull

50:40

that's going to like be in there for you know . You know saying here , come and clean up and all that stuff . You probably won't

50:42

do that , uh , but do you really need all that every single time ? I think

50:44

I think you can have fun , uh , without it there . So

50:47

there are different ways to find it . I know that

50:49

there's a lot of great uh bulls out there , like um

50:51

, like doc chocolate . He's like one of the best

50:53

from all the women that I hear that have been with him , that he's

50:55

so much fun to hang out with . He's hilarious , um

50:58

, and he he exemplifies exactly what I'm

51:00

talking about . He talks a lot , he sets boundaries

51:02

, um , and he's he's hilarious . He

51:04

laughs the whole time , like because you gotta laugh

51:06

. I mean , it's some , you're bumping

51:08

uglies here . It's got , it's gonna be , you know

51:10

, some funny stuff's gonna happen , happen

51:13

.

51:14

Yeah , he's great . He's just got that kind of personality

51:16

that makes you feel like you're at ease

51:18

, like you , like he's just

51:21

so down to earth . You know . You don't

51:23

feel like he's pretending to be somebody

51:25

or that you need to pretend to be somebody

51:27

, or that you're , you know , within a role

51:29

or something like that . You just really feel

51:32

like you're with this person . That makes you feel safe

51:34

and comfortable and and you

51:36

can trust them . And and that's a thing

51:38

like to be able to really because , like

51:41

I'm a big person about how this

51:43

person makes me feel , is

51:45

tells me everything I need to know about them . So

51:48

, in their presence , do how do I feel

51:50

? And then for a human being able to

51:52

be able to actually like make

51:55

a woman feel calm and

51:57

safe and , you know

51:59

, at ease in a sexual

52:02

, in any scenario , but especially

52:04

in a sexual scenario , I think that's

52:06

a big thing , because I've had

52:08

the opposite happen where I've

52:10

been in a room with somebody where

52:12

I felt really

52:16

not at ease . I

52:18

felt I had all sorts of weird

52:20

alarm bells going off where I was just like

52:22

not sure why , but I was

52:24

like this person is just not . Something is

52:26

not right . Yeah , I'm uncomfortable

52:29

as fuck right now . I need to get the fuck out

52:31

of here . But that's what

52:33

I mean , like your presence and

52:35

how I feel is going to tell me everything I

52:37

need to know . But yeah , finding a bull is fucking

52:40

hard for so many couples and

52:42

I've been saying it a lot more recently

52:45

that if you

52:47

expect to be able

52:49

to just randomly find

52:52

some stranger off the internet

52:54

who's going to be a bull for

52:57

you and your woman , and that all

52:59

you got to do to put into it is a little

53:01

chit , chat back and forth and maybe meet up

53:03

for a drink , and then you're

53:05

going to find this guy who's going to

53:08

respect your boundaries and your

53:10

rules , learn about the both of you and what

53:12

you want , fulfill your fucking dreams

53:14

and fantasies and make it epic

53:16

. And that's all you got

53:18

to put into it is some texting back and

53:20

forth and maybe a couple of drinks or something

53:23

like that . Good luck , I

53:25

really do feel like , for

53:27

the guys who really

53:29

understand that role of

53:31

a bull . They understand the dynamic

53:33

of cuckolding , they understand how

53:36

to really look , listen and learn

53:38

from you and to

53:40

fulfill fantasies

53:43

. I think if we want that

53:45

, we need to pay for

53:47

it . We pay for a nice

53:49

fucking hotel , you pay for a nice fucking

53:51

lingerie , you pay for a bunch of other

53:53

shit in your life to make fucking amazing . Think

54:00

about how much money you put into making your fucking wedding come true . You know the optics

54:02

, the fantasy , the fucking , everything of it . And yet for

54:04

especially first time

54:07

cuckolding sessions , fantasies

54:10

not willing to put out anything

54:12

other than a drink

54:15

or two , I'm like , come on , man . I

54:17

mean I feel like pussy as

54:20

a reward only goes so far

54:22

. If you're just

54:24

offering up an hour of your wife's pussy

54:26

as this fucking carrot

54:29

on the stick of make our fantasy fulfilled

54:31

, then you're just

54:34

going to get random dudes who don't know what they're

54:36

doing . But you really want somebody

54:38

like a dark chocolate who understands what the fuck

54:40

you'd want .

54:45

Like , pay them , pay them yeah , if you , yeah , if you live

54:47

in alaska and you know he's in california

54:50

, like fly him out , what are you doing ? Um ? And

54:52

we actually did have one experience where we did

54:54

, um , have a guy that we flew I won't name any names

54:56

because uh , uh , I will go to that um

54:58

but we , we had this guy that

55:01

came out and like he was great with everything , we had

55:03

a great amount of time , he was 100 into

55:05

it , um , and it was because

55:07

we took that time and and had that care

55:09

beforehand , we made sure , oh , you're so nice

55:11

when you play with your pussy . I'm

55:13

sorry I I had to . I know it's a joke

55:16

, but but yeah , like you have

55:18

to make the experience good for everybody

55:20

. And you know , if you treat them like just

55:22

a dick , then you're just going to get a dick Like that's

55:24

it and like not in a good way , not in like an actual

55:27

dick , like an actual asshole . So

55:29

, yeah , like that's what's going to happen if you

55:31

, if you treat it that way , like you're , you're dealing with

55:33

, you know , a person . You're not dealing with a role

55:35

, you're not dealing with an animal , even though we use

55:37

the term bull again , the terminology

55:39

that we have in lifestyle sucks . I don't know who came up

55:41

with it , um , but but there's

55:44

so much that goes into that and when you do find a

55:46

good bull , it really makes things just

55:48

so much better than you can imagine . And

55:50

that's kind of what I was saying before about , like , when I say jump

55:52

into it , I'm not saying go and like , just find some random guy

55:54

. I'm saying like , get a toy , tell your

55:56

girl that you want her to experience something bigger and

55:58

play with that . Like that is safe . You

56:01

can see what her size is . You'll see that different times

56:03

during the month . You probably don't fuck her enough to know this , but

56:06

different times during the month she's going to be different

56:08

. There's

56:19

going to be okay with having another guy

56:22

who could be dangerous come in there . And I actually had

56:24

one experience where I had to come in and I had to break

56:26

it up , like , as you can see , I'm not like a small guy . Like

56:28

you know what I mean . Like I , I can hold my own and stuff , um

56:30

. But obviously the whole cuff dynamic oh , you're weak , whatever

56:33

. But no , like she felt unsafe . She said the safe word

56:35

and he didn't stop . I came right in . I was like get

56:37

the fuck out of here . Like

56:39

I was ready to like to go off and like , obviously

56:41

, like by that time the guy left and said , oh

56:43

, I don't know , I thought you liked it . I was like , no , get the

56:45

fuck out of here . Um

56:51

, and it was like a safety concern , but nothing truly

56:53

unsafe happened because we had taken the precautions . We

56:55

made sure , we made sure everyone was there , we made sure , like

56:57

we talked about this beforehand , um

56:59

, and we didn't trust her gut

57:01

on that time . She , her gut feeling was I

57:03

don't know about this , and I was like , well , it's up

57:06

to you , and I think that she was just doing it to make me happy

57:08

at that point , which is like the opposite

57:10

of it no , do this for you , girl

57:12

. But her not . And we've been better at communicating

57:15

since then . But she didn't trust her gut and I

57:17

always tell women in the lifestyle , whenever they ask

57:19

me about that , like , trust your gut . Like

57:21

, if you feel bad about something , don't

57:23

go for it . And that's honestly why a

57:26

lot of people are like , oh , isn't your girl fucking somebody

57:28

every night ?

57:28

No , Do

57:35

you think we can find safe , fun people to fuck every night ? Like you're living in a fantasy world

57:37

, exactly ? Oh , people ask me that all the time . What are you doing this weekend ? I'm like

57:39

fucking laundry , yeah , fucking , never

57:42

ending laundry .

57:43

Oh yeah , laundry is the worst

57:45

yeah . Yeah , I was going to say something

57:48

non-sexual , but then we won't even get into those things .

57:50

But yeah , I

58:06

think that there's a lot . There is value actual monetary value when it comes

58:08

to having somebody participate in your cuckolding fantasy as a bull , and I think that we

58:10

should value those people who are safe , who are reliable , who are knowledgeable

58:12

and experienced and

58:15

good at what they do . We should

58:17

show them that they have value

58:19

. And I

58:21

think referrals go a long way , I think , for

58:23

the women in the lifestyle . We fucking know

58:26

who gives us

58:28

the good vibes and who doesn't

58:30

. So I think that for the guys

58:32

who do have the referrals fucking

58:35

long ass list of them that

58:37

we need to show them that they have value , that

58:39

they are worth it , and have

58:42

them as facilitators .

58:46

Yeah , and you're , you know they're they're already not getting

58:48

the like the full relationship side of it , like they're not

58:50

getting like that into me and stuff . So like giving

58:52

them something more than just like a vagina and stuff by

58:54

actually giving them , hey , I'm showing you're invaluable

58:56

by flying you out here , by having

58:58

a nice place , by you know you being able to be

59:01

compensated for what you're doing , like that kind

59:03

of you know fills that in , because they are doing a different

59:05

role . Like it is a different thing that you're doing there . Um

59:07

, and if I do know a few people who have

59:09

that like that bowl that is just like their number one

59:11

bowl and it's like it's almost like a boyfriend that you have on

59:13

top of your um husband and I

59:16

don't know if that's like something different or

59:18

like a subsection of cuckolding . Um

59:20

, I haven't ever had that experience where we've had anybody

59:22

long lasting um that much , but that

59:24

does seem like something awesome too . If you have somebody that like

59:26

you just know like , hey , every time I'm in town , I

59:28

fly out here every two to three months , like

59:31

we can always hook up there , that seems like you

59:33

know the best situation . Um , yeah

59:35

, somebody , uh put this in here . Like most bulls are

59:37

friends first and that really is true . Like the bulls that

59:39

we've , that we haven't had a lot of bulls that we've seen

59:41

multiple times , but all of them are great friends with both

59:43

of us . Like they'll literally like text me random , like

59:45

sports memes or , you know , text her funny , like jokes

59:48

, or like send stuff to her on instagram and it's not

59:50

always sexual , you know what I mean . It's you're having

59:52

fun and stuff and and yeah , that's why , like the

59:54

first thing you said it was like I don't care about dick , I

59:56

don't care about , like , how you look , like you can find those things . Like I

59:58

care about . Like can you make this girl laugh ? Because if you

1:00:00

can't make her laugh , good luck trying to make her come

1:00:02

yeah , absolutely

1:00:04

100% agree .

1:00:06

Um , okay , we have run out of time

1:00:08

. Where can people find

1:00:10

you ? Where can they learn about you ? Read your blog

1:00:13

, that good stuff . I did put a link in the chat

1:00:15

earlier , but what are the rest of ? Where

1:00:17

is everybody supposed to go ?

1:00:20

ConfidentCookwordpress . Find me on Twitter

1:00:22

. You can always send me an email there

1:00:24

or a direct message or , I guess , a DM

1:00:26

, and also support Venus . Go into her

1:00:28

Patreon . Is it a Patreon now or is it

1:00:30

a different setup you have to do .

1:00:32

Yeah , it's my own website . Fuck Patreon

1:00:34

. They're a bunch of losers . That's right . It's Green's .

1:00:36

Quarters right .

1:00:37

Yes , yeah .

1:00:38

Set up on that because , honestly , if

1:00:40

you think , what I'm saying resonates with you

1:00:42

, like I had this

1:00:44

awakening because of Venus , like I had this awakening because

1:00:47

I heard what she was saying and I really

1:00:49

took it to heart and I didn't just want want to

1:00:51

have this fantasy that I lived in and have

1:00:53

all the shame that I was feeling . I wanted to actually understand

1:00:56

what I was going through and be able to accept the person

1:00:58

I am . And in doing that , it was listening

1:01:00

to you , listening to Scarlett talk

1:01:02

about it , queen Anne talk about

1:01:04

it as well . I mean , there's so many great women that you've had in your podcast

1:01:07

. You can look at mine . Thank you , grunky , always giving

1:01:09

the links there . That's

1:01:12

right . It's not even Twitter anymore , it's X , so

1:01:15

you can find me there . But , honestly , if you want to learn more about

1:01:17

this lifestyle , go deep on . All

1:01:19

of Venus has a YouTube channel . You

1:01:21

can watch it if you want to . The

1:01:24

interviews that you've done and the conversations

1:01:26

that you've had in these pillow talks , I think that they are

1:01:28

so valuable to the lifestyle and

1:01:30

they are so valuable to so many people

1:01:32

like myself that I think even you know , even

1:01:34

after you know , a hundred years after both of us are dead and

1:01:36

gone , I think there's people going to be looking at this like , wow

1:01:38

, she was really the founder of like

1:01:40

modern day cuckolding as it gets more and more popular

1:01:43

.

1:01:47

So I hope . Thank you for that . I appreciate

1:01:49

that . I hope we can have a legacy . That's like that , you

1:01:51

know . I think that would be really cool . But

1:01:55

thank you so much for lending your voice today and for writing your blog

1:01:57

. Yeah , you do have a lot of posts on there

1:01:59

, so if you guys who are listening

1:02:02

haven't checked it out yet , make sure you

1:02:04

do . Confident cockwordpresscom

1:02:06

um a lot of

1:02:08

really good articles .

1:02:09

You're gonna have statues in 100 years of you I

1:02:12

already do .

1:02:13

Venus , the goddess , I mean I'm pretty sure

1:02:15

I'm everywhere right , and

1:02:19

just on that note too .

1:02:20

I I just want to say like I I do

1:02:22

. I'm not a religious person , but I do feel

1:02:24

that like intimacy is like

1:02:26

something divine for lack of a better term and

1:02:28

like you , like having that personification of like

1:02:30

venus . I have literally like had orgasms

1:02:33

where I've literally just been like like this is

1:02:35

like to venus , like not even necessarily just you , but just

1:02:37

like the , the exuberantness that I've just like

1:02:39

, oh , like and and that

1:02:41

is it's . It's taken like my mind that I think

1:02:43

, like , if there like is a goddess , like

1:02:46

she's your form .

1:02:48

That's so awesome . Oh my God , I love that

1:02:50

. Oh my gosh . Thank you

1:02:52

so much for letting your voice today

1:02:54

again on Pillow Talk and

1:02:56

for the podcast . I really appreciate it . It's

1:02:58

always a great time chatting with you guys

1:03:00

Everybody listening . Make sure you go check out

1:03:03

his blog and check out his Twitter . Thanks

1:03:06

for joining me today . Make sure you

1:03:08

go to venuscuckledresscom

1:03:11

. That's where you can book a private

1:03:13

chat with me . You can check out any

1:03:15

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1:03:17

you can even ask a question for the show

1:03:19

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for that . You can also follow me on

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1:03:28

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1:03:31

, I have , but not recently . You

1:03:34

can also follow me on Twitter , or whatever the fuck

1:03:36

you want to call it . My handle is at CuckoldressV

1:03:39

. That's it for today . We'll

1:03:41

see you next time . Bye

1:04:05

.