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30

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have got a great win show

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lined up for you guys. Welcome 30.

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How do I know it's gonna be

0:09

great? Because obviously it's a win

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show. And and it's great every time.

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And Luke is gonna Luke is gonna help me. Luke

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is gonna

0:16

help

0:16

me make it great today. Our

0:19

main topics are we

0:21

had a power outage last 30. And when

0:23

we stitched together the clips of the WAN

0:25

Show, our main topic was

0:28

cut by accident. That's borne out of

0:30

it. There are conspiracy theories that Microsoft

0:32

found out we were gonna talk about Windows Modern

0:35

Standby and cut the power. And

0:37

until 30 did the vaud? Actually,

0:39

it was just a miscommunication with

0:41

the Klipsch that

0:42

had to be salvaged from one place and another

0:45

place and put back together. Anyway, the point is

0:47

we're gonna rehash that real quick

0:49

styles for you guys 30

0:50

also gonna be talking about, oh,

0:53

the big controversy this

0:55

week. I mean Coffeezilla versus

0:57

Logan Paul. There's been a number of big

0:59

controversies this week. It seems like the Internet

1:02

lately, to be honest. 30. People

1:04

are, like, competing to see who can be

1:06

that week's major news, not even that month.

1:08

30 Allegiance. Logan Paul's Crypto

1:11

Zoo is a scam. Bompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompompomp. And

1:14

N f t's were a game. And Logan

1:16

Paul is not the only creator that

1:18

30 has exposed recently. My

1:21

only question is, am I next?

1:23

Yes. 30. What dirt

1:25

you got on me? I'm genuinely curious.

1:27

We haven't sold NFTs. What else you

1:29

got helps a lot? 30

1:32

also remember Crypto coin. That also helps a

1:34

lot. Let's

1:37

see. I don't know.

1:39

I kinda wanna talk about this. Filmora.

1:43

Pulling lifetime licenses.

1:47

Not a good look. Not a good

1:49

look at all also graphics

1:51

card leaks. Those are fun. People like those. Right?

1:53

Forty seventy TI, 30, leaked.

1:57

30 will find it interesting? Not

1:59

him. I mean, don't you think

2:01

a hundred and ten degrees on the seventy

2:03

nine hundred XTX being in spec?

2:06

Is interesting? Yeah. I'm also

2:08

not surprised though. Yeah.

2:11

That's fair. Yeah. Alright.

2:13

Let's roll that intro. The

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2:46

Maybe don't make that website Alright. Why don't we jump right

2:49

into our first topic for the day? Is

2:51

it Windows? Is it Modern Standby? Modern

2:54

Standby. I'm doing it.

2:54

Let's talk about it. Yeah. Our little

2:57

video about Windows Modern Standby

2:59

really lit some fires internally over at Microsoft.

3:02

And Alex was able to have a chat

3:04

with the VP of Windows platform

3:06

and services to go over some

3:08

questions. Question number one.

3:10

Why the heck is s three sleep,

3:12

which

3:13

you know, seemed to work pretty good.

3:16

Being removed from the biases of laptops.

3:18

And the answer is Microsoft is moving away

3:20

from s three sleep because how

3:22

each device goes to sleep is controlled

3:24

by that device's firmware. That means

3:27

for a device to sleep properly, the firmware

3:29

needs to be maintained by

3:31

the company that made said device. And I don't know

3:33

about you, Luke, but sleep has

3:35

worked perfectly on every computer

3:37

I've ever owned. I I

3:40

genuinely don't believe I have ever

3:42

actually had a computer where

3:44

sleep consistently worked. Ever.

3:47

I don't think I have. You haven't actually owned that

3:49

many computers? Nope. That's true. Yeah.

3:52

That's valid true. I think you're owned two

3:54

laptops ever. No? the

3:57

aches. I'm on my I'm on my fourth.

3:59

Really? What do you run for a laptop now?

4:02

I I got a pretty cool one actually. Did you

4:04

steal it from work? I did. You told me 30, to

4:06

be fair. You literally told me to on 30.

4:08

There is footage proof of this. You

4:10

threw laptops at me. I

4:12

did do that. You did. But what are you running that?

4:14

What did you take? I didn't do you. I

4:16

didn't do that. I didn't do

4:18

that. To 30 in the art challenge.

4:21

No. No. I genuinely didn't.

4:24

Okay. What is it? I actually don't

4:26

even remember. It's an Asus laptop.

4:28

It's a nice one. I don't remember the model. I

4:30

didn't ask. Like, I just asked for a laptop?

4:33

That was it. And and

4:35

I got handed, like, a very nice one. Okay.

4:37

Cool. It does, like when you turn it on, it goes,

4:39

like,

4:41

Okay. I know that much. Alright. Yeah. It

4:43

does that. By using s zero sleep

4:45

instead of s three sleep, Microsoft

4:48

gets more control over sleep instead

4:50

of the device manufacturer and

4:52

has a much higher success rate

4:54

for everything going to sleep and waking

4:56

up properly. Using s zero

4:58

sleep also apparently helps with security since

5:00

windows is in control of the device at all times.

5:03

Okay. Our next question is, Well,

5:06

you know, that's a problem 30 still

5:08

because it's not working properly still.

5:10

So what is being done? 30

5:13

we anticipated, figuring out what's

5:15

going wrong with Windows Modern Standby is

5:17

very difficult since many

5:19

of the bugs are what they called

5:22

Heisenbugs. AKA

5:24

if you observe the bugs,

5:26

their behavior actually changes.

5:29

A lot of telemetry is turned off

5:31

during 30. To reduce power consumption

5:33

30. But this also means that

5:36

if you turn on said

5:38

telemetry to try to diagnose

5:40

a problem with sleep, Well, the

5:42

test you're running is no longer the same because now

5:44

you've got a bunch of telemetry running. Yep.

5:46

They've looked into the situation that we described

5:48

where our laptop doesn't properly go into

5:51

disconnect did sleep when you unplug

5:53

it while it is sleeping. On

5:55

some devices, it looks like we actually got it

5:57

right. That does 30 to

5:59

be a problem and they're looking into a fix.

6:02

But they said it is only one of

6:04

many potential ways that

6:06

modern standby can cause problems.

6:09

Basically, if we want this

6:11

issue to go away, Microsoft needs

6:13

a whack ton of data.

6:16

Alright then. How about yourself? One

6:18

thing before you before you go there. I will say

6:20

the Heisenbugs thing. Yes.

6:22

I think most people when they hear that,

6:25

aren't gonna think, like If you say

6:27

something bad. Yeah. Yeah.

6:29

Totally. Yeah. Anyways,

6:31

30 doesn't matter. Our chairs are at really different

6:34

heights today. I need to That's

6:37

what happened. Yeah.

6:41

That's not real. 30,

6:45

so what should you do? When

6:47

modern Standby problems happen to someone

6:49

within 30 group. We've been given a

6:51

direct line to report these bugs, which

6:54

is great. For us to

6:56

help get them data. But as you can

6:58

probably imagine, not

7:01

everyone is gonna be able to do that. Well, okay. So

7:03

first the process for us. When we find a laptop

7:05

hot and dead. We

7:07

can go into command prompt as an admin and

7:09

type in power c This

7:12

is gonna be CFG. That's gonna be a typo.

7:14

Power fig slash

7:17

sleep study. This makes a zip file

7:19

with all the battery data from our computer

7:21

for the last while. The

7:23

notes here say 30 do this on your laptop now to

7:25

demonstrate I did it last week the float

7:27

plane version of the vaud, I think, actually does have

7:29

it. I think so. I think so. So I'm not gonna bother

7:31

doing it again. The point is it makes a little zip file.

7:34

We are then able to forward this log directly to

7:36

Microsoft so they can help figure out what's going

7:38

on. Unfortunately, not everyone gets a

7:40

direct line to Microsoft, but by

7:42

reporting bugs, we can hopefully

7:44

get them more data to figure things out and

7:46

these are the steps. The

7:48

feedback hub is the best way to

7:50

provide detailed feedback on issues

7:52

to the Windows engineering team. Don't you show

7:54

it? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. The tool

7:56

gathers detailed logs and can run additional

7:59

dig diagnostics, to

8:01

help them fix issues. 30

8:04

hub can be opened up in

8:06

Windows and you just need to give yourself a

8:08

relevant title like say for example

8:10

that My computer battery is draining while it

8:12

is asleep. Click 30 a problem,

8:15

then provide more information on the specific

8:17

issue. We've got an example kind of filled out

8:19

for you. But the more details you can provide

8:21

the better. What was happening

8:23

before, what was happening after? Click

8:25

next, choose power and 30, and sleep,

8:28

might actually automatically select this based on what

8:30

you provided in the description. And make

8:33

sure though that you get the right

8:35

the right drop down

8:37

selected here. This way, it will

8:39

actually end up with the appropriate engineering

8:41

team. It will also help to gather

8:43

relevant telemetry from your system. Next,

8:46

new 30. And then on the

8:48

add more details section mark as high

8:51

severity if you've hit the battery drain issue. This

8:53

is clearly a major focus for

8:55

them. Then for items

8:57

below, I pick inability to use my PC.

8:59

I mean, your 30 dead. So like, come

9:01

on. Let's go. In

9:03

section four, this is the most critical part.

9:05

Gathering additional data. Without this,

9:07

they will not have enough data to diagnose

9:09

the issue. So for the battery drain issues,

9:11

select 30. Click start

9:13

recording, then wait ten seconds

9:15

or so and press stop. You

9:17

don't need to go through the actual sleep process, nor do you

9:19

need the screenshots that may take a minute

9:21

or to stopping the recording by the way. You

9:23

can also put your computer to sleep. During the

9:25

process, then reawaken it. It will collect

9:28

data across this

9:30

process. Then click submit. There's

9:32

also a forum post, which maybe Luke

9:34

will open here, that will show you

9:36

guys how to go over these steps if

9:38

you didn't managed to catch everything that we just

9:40

said just now. Thank you very much

9:42

Alex for creating that.

9:44

So that's that's it, guys. The

9:46

only way for us to solve this

9:49

problem is to work together, get

9:51

Microsoft as much data as we can

9:53

about the problem because in

9:55

their defense. And I think I

9:57

often give Microsoft a pretty hard

9:59

time. Yeah. They're a

10:01

multi many billions of

10:03

dollars company. And sometimes,

10:05

they have problems that I just

10:08

that feel just utterly

10:10

inexcusable. Like any of their multiplayer

10:12

gaming stuff basically at

10:14

all on PC. The

10:16

default search within Windows start

10:18

menu. No. Yep. How that

10:20

is so bad in this day and age?

10:22

It just it boggles

10:24

the

10:24

mind. I give them a pretty hard time,

10:27

but in their

10:29

defense. In

10:30

defense of of of

10:33

our corporate overlords, please don't

10:35

cut the power to the WAN show.

10:38

It really is a huge challenge

10:41

supporting such a wide

10:43

variety of different

10:45

configurations. And on the PC,

10:47

it is functionally infinite.

10:50

Right? Like, even on android, you

10:52

guys, I think, struggle a fair bit on the float

10:54

plane app compared to iOS. Is that fair to

10:56

say? Devices. Yeah. Because there's so many

10:58

devices. And you try to change something and

11:00

it like, okay. This, like, API

11:02

version will cut off this many devices if you

11:04

try to use it, whatever, blah, blah, blah, like, it's it

11:06

can be pretty annoying. 30

11:09

sleep is, as we 30

11:11

earlier, a very tough

11:14

problem to diagnose. Yes. On

11:17

android, it's a

11:19

fraction. Of what you deal with

11:22

on the Windows PC side of

11:24

things. Within a single

11:26

generation of devices, You've

11:28

got your intel. You've got your AMD. You've

11:30

got all your different tiers of all the

11:32

different SKUs from both of them. Oh, don't forget

11:34

there's desktop and mobile.

11:36

Right? And then Oh, well, I mean, there's

11:39

not just one motherboard. No.

11:41

No. No. You've got dozens upon

11:43

dozens of motherboard options for every

11:45

one of those chips. All

11:47

with slightly different firmware. Oh, and don't

11:49

forget that you might plug any

11:51

number of red what you plug

11:53

that tape drive in Who

11:55

was in a take drive? Right.

11:58

Like, that's the kind of thing they're dealing with in

12:00

all these different devices, many of which

12:02

are engineered by very very

12:04

small 30, surprisingly small teams.

12:06

Like like some some ran okay.

12:08

I just became aware yesterday. Of

12:10

a sound card. Okay?

12:12

A sound card from way

12:14

back in the early two thousands

12:17

that you need if you wanna build

12:19

a DIY first gen

12:21

Xbox dev kit. And

12:23

they're in short supply because

12:27

I guess 30 build first gen

12:29

Xbox dev kits like for fun.

12:31

So so an

12:34

enterprising member of the community

12:36

actually created a blueprint

12:38

for this sound card that you can

12:40

send to

12:40

some, like, PCB Yeah.

12:43

Small red PCB manufacturer 30.

12:45

they'll lift it up for you for about

12:47

fifty bucks and send it back. And I'm

12:49

like, okay. So let's say you get a

12:51

30 to PCI adapter and

12:53

you put one of those damn things in your

12:55

system. Who knows how that goes

12:57

to sleep?

12:58

So it is

13:01

legitimately a difficult problem

13:03

30 real?

13:06

30, this helps. And that's all I have

13:08

to say about that. Why don't

13:10

we move on to the 30 Zillanews? Can I

13:12

just say, I only recently became

13:14

aware of 30 Zillow's

13:17

channel and I feel like I've

13:19

really been missing out because it's Awesome.

13:21

Me

13:21

30. I haven't enough time to watch full

13:23

length, but like juicy.

13:26

Yeah. I

13:26

this isn't actually it's it's one of those

13:28

funny things where you know,

13:30

just serendipity strikes sometimes

13:32

and I became aware

13:34

a new of Coffee 30 twice

13:38

this week. Like I'd I'd never

13:40

become aware and then

13:42

twice they landed Twice

13:45

they

13:48

landed in my in in my inbox

13:50

or in my it was actually

13:52

a document that I was reading kind

13:54

of like a like a marketing

13:57

like a marketing guide document that I

13:59

was looking at trying to figure out how to market better

14:01

on LTT store. And it was

14:03

written for me specifically and

14:06

had like a kind of a tone

14:08

to it. Something

14:10

something something don't do this. You don't want to end up on

14:12

30 Zillow. And I was like, okay, a, I would have never

14:14

done that in the first place, but b, what the crap

14:16

is coffee

14:17

Zillow. And then it

14:19

ended up in my inbox because of the

14:21

Crypto Zoo issue. Now,

14:24

I wanna

14:24

say, first of all, that

14:27

It kind of could have been us. Remember,

14:31

linus coin? Yeah. We never did it.

14:33

No. Okay. So a, 30

14:35

never actually built a

14:37

Cryptotoken. It's amazing how much people

14:39

wanted us to make one. And b,

14:43

What were we gonna call it at the end of the

14:45

day? Drop coin? Or, like,

14:47

rug pull coin or something like that? I know

14:49

rug pull coin got got

14:51

That time mixed around

14:54

a little

14:54

bit. Yeah. I'm thrown around. There we go. Because the

14:56

whole idea was that we 30 gonna

14:58

be like, okay. This is

15:00

a grift. We're gonna

15:02

own it. We're gonna be up front. Yeah. We

15:04

were 30, this is the only way we're gonna do. This

15:07

is 30 if we just openly tell everyone

15:09

we're scamming them. Like, this

15:11

is a way to donate. And if you

15:12

guys ultimately go for

15:15

it, then, hey. 30

15:17

were all on the same page here. Yeah.

15:20

So that that was never

15:23

gonna happen, but I'm really

15:25

glad that 30 if we had approached

15:27

it that

15:27

way. Like, LL, we're scamming

15:29

you. I'm glad we didn't

15:31

because men, the way that sentiment

15:33

has changed from LL

15:36

30 coins. Yeah. It's all a big rip off

15:38

to oh my gosh. I can't

15:40

believe that this collapsed and my

15:42

life savings are gone. 30

15:45

like it happened really fast. Hey. Yeah.

15:48

Definitely. And

15:50

I one of the reasons why we ended

15:52

up not doing the whole rugpole

15:54

coin thing -- Plugpole

15:55

coin. -- was because we didn't trust

15:58

people to take us seriously that it

16:00

was a

16:00

scam. I don't even remember all the com

16:02

we had multiple conversations around

16:05

this. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like,

16:07

honestly,

16:08

30 you wanna get

16:10

Rich quick, it really does seem

16:12

like the winning move. Just

16:13

scamming 30? Yeah. Yeah.

16:16

I mean, How much more money would I have

16:18

if I just scammed 30? Probably a

16:19

lot. Like, took like, all the gambling

16:22

sponsors And your Coffeezilla gonna come for

16:24

you. Were you getting paid to okay.

16:26

So So is there? Okay. Like gambling

16:28

seems like a really good one. By the

16:29

way, we we do

16:31

not extend any gambling sponsorships.

16:33

Gambling sponsors. Forget about it.

16:35

Yeah. But like gambling sponsorship.

16:37

So you had a guy. You had what's

16:39

his nuts? 30 wreck? No.

16:41

No. No. No. No. No. No old school.

16:43

That guy that had the razor sponsorship for the

16:46

longest time, where he's responsible. Yeah. Yeah.

16:48

Yeah. Yeah. Where he owned the

16:50

the, like, 30 CS GO betting

16:52

player over. I'm not

16:53

gonna remember the name, but there's two of them. Wasn't there? Yeah.

16:55

Yeah. There was two

16:55

guys. The two different CS GO, like,

16:58

skin gambling sites or whatever.

16:59

Yeah. Yeah. That whole thing. So there's that. Then

17:01

there's the one where you supposedly

17:03

are gambling on a

17:05

site and, like, winning

17:07

but actually 30 site is giving you

17:10

money to lose on the site. That's a really

17:12

popular one. Yep. A

17:14

syndicate. Syndicate. That's the

17:16

one. That's the one. Yeah, that was I

17:18

can't believe the, like,

17:20

tiny little wrist slap that

17:22

those guys got off with, like,

17:25

holy 30. What

17:27

what what are what are

17:29

some of the other what are some of the other good gifts? So,

17:31

yeah, gambling on a site you actually own

17:33

and then gambling on a site where you're being

17:35

paid And oh, right. And the odds

17:37

are tilted in your favor to make it seem like

17:39

you're gonna win because you're being paid by

17:41

the site. That's yeah. That seems to

17:43

be two of the really popular ones. And

17:45

then, of the whole NFT one. So why

17:47

don't we why don't we get into what

17:51

exactly it is that happened with crypto

17:53

zoo. We'll we'll talk a little bit about,

17:55

you know, our take on this, but

17:57

this is not a substitute for

17:59

going and watching the coffee 30 video

18:02

because it is excellent. The one

18:04

that I actually I haven't I haven't watched this

18:06

one, I'm assuming it's excellent. The one that I

18:08

watched recently was on

18:12

Hold on. When it

18:14

was drawn to my attention,

18:17

I really, really enjoyed it though. It was

18:20

super awesome.

18:22

Youtuber

18:22

accidentally exposes the

18:25

scam he's promoting. I show speed.

18:27

Yeah. Really, really good video. Really

18:29

good video. take my word for it. Take

18:31

the word of the six point one million

18:33

people who watched it already. Great channel.

18:35

Anyway, the point is, Luke, do you wanna give us the

18:37

rundown

18:37

here? Sure. Crypto Zoo is an

18:40

NFT based game. Nice

18:42

sort of Sounds legit. We'll

18:44

get into that Yeah. Where

18:46

players can earn passive income.

18:48

Totally makes sense definitely.

18:50

It was initiated and heavily

18:52

promoted by Logan Paul. In

18:54

quotes. It's a really fun game that earns you money. Wouldn't

18:57

that be great? The player player

18:59

play now? No.

19:01

The player purchases zoo token. They

19:03

use zoo to purchase eggs

19:05

of animals. These eggs can

19:08

be bred and interesting,

19:10

and minted to create unique NFTs,

19:12

the hatched animals should be

19:14

some sort of cross between the two.

19:16

The unique hatched animals would then

19:19

accrue value. Mhmm. This

19:21

is not new and has basically been done before. There's

19:23

CryptoKitties. I think People in space have heard of

19:25

CryptoKitties as a fairly major project.

19:27

Zoo token launched in July twenty twenty one.

19:29

At the time of launch, two point five

19:31

million dollars worth of eggs

19:33

had been sold. Crypto Zoo was

19:36

supposed to come out in September of that

19:38

year, cough, cough, stars

19:40

citizen, val valued plummeted

19:42

by a October rose a bit in

19:44

November and then crashed again in May

19:46

as as crypto things tend to do.

19:48

The crypto zoo that

19:50

it was undergoing upgrades to the core infrastructure of

19:52

the ecosystem. That's the

19:55

biggest load of

19:58

jargon I've ever heard. That's so good.

20:01

I'm I'm taking that for

20:03

sure. Why isn't this

20:04

happen? It's just tough, you know. We're we're

20:07

undergoing upgrades to the core infrastructure of the

20:09

ecosystem. Yeah. Sorry. We we'd

20:11

love to get back to you, but We're

20:13

30 upgrading our core aspects

20:15

of the ecosystem. Infrastructure

20:19

by plug How

20:21

how are you? 30

20:24

Wheaton. Okay.

20:30

Steven 30 Finst

20:33

FinDyson. FinDyson.

20:35

I'm so sorry. I guarantee 30 that's wrong. I apologize.

20:38

AKA Coffee Zillow has uploaded several

20:40

videos criticizing Logan Paul's

20:42

CryptoZoo He done similar videos 30 scams

20:45

and frauds over the past few

20:47

years. These often relate to

20:49

Crypto and NFTs. I'm

20:51

so surprised the criticism.

20:53

The 30 initially released were

20:55

photos that can be easily found on the

20:57

Internet and then edited just like

20:59

every NFLT Well,

21:01

of that type, I know there's a it's a technology

21:03

that can be used for other yeah. Sure.

21:05

The eggs couldn't be

21:07

30. Bit of an core functionality

21:09

of the game. Players couldn't get

21:11

their money back. I'm not surprised, but,

21:14

you know, it is a thing. And basically,

21:17

nothing works and the site never fully

21:19

launched. Big Yikes.

21:21

Logan has blamed the main developer of

21:23

the project. He said he

21:25

got involved with the wrong people, made

21:29

mistakes and missteps and that there

21:31

is a new team working on the project

21:33

now. The dev later said that

21:35

Logan hired a team then failed to pay

21:37

them. A bit of an issue,

21:39

Coffeyzilla has since been publicly

21:41

invited to go on Logan's podcast

21:44

impulsive to talk about this He

21:46

has declined for now on Twitter. Yeah.

21:49

Okay. This is the part where I was like, wait.

21:51

What? Yeah. He invited

21:54

Logan first 30. And then

21:56

Logan publicly invited him.

21:58

Yeah. So I mean, that wasn't

22:00

on his podcast.

22:02

Like, what? You you didn't always gonna go like,

22:04

yeah, by the way, I invited this guy

22:06

first. Like, you're getting exposed. Why are you doing

22:08

more stuff behind the scenes? 30 weird.

22:10

I mean, 30 these I mean, the

22:13

drama Gets more

22:15

views. The drama gets more views.

22:17

Yeah. For nothing crazy. Controversy is a feature, not

22:19

a bug. That is something that he is legitimately

22:21

very good 30, is steering

22:24

things. Already has

22:26

been. has been public oh,

22:28

right. 30 did that part. He

22:31

refuses to fly to his end quotes. Crypto

22:34

zoo tax haven on New Year's L0L

22:40

Yeah. Good stuff. So

22:43

is there as

22:46

far as I

22:47

know, Boardape is getting or a

22:50

board eight yacht club or whatever is getting sued right

22:52

now for like -- Oh, really? -- racism

22:54

stuff or something. Oh, like

22:56

the NFL space is crumbling

22:58

faster than I would have even expected. I heard

23:00

there's there's a company. I 30. I

23:02

okay. This is this is I only sort of vaguely

23:05

remember reading about it. So take this for what

23:07

it is. But I heard there's

23:09

a company that specializes in

23:12

helping you turn your

23:14

NFTs into a tax write off that

23:16

you can utilize for, like,

23:18

this this year, like, this

23:20

tax year because you lost so much money. Because

23:22

you lost so much money on

23:23

30. And apparently, business

23:26

is booming.

23:27

Oh, Mike. Yeah. I honestly

23:30

30 pretty

23:31

weird that that is smart. Yeah.

23:33

Yeah. I mean, you I I you if

23:36

you lose money on an investment, you

23:39

absolutely should try to, you

23:41

know, get it at least

23:43

nontaxable. Like,

23:45

if the money if the money is lost, then

23:47

it's lost. Like, it's it's not income. That's

23:49

for sure. So

23:52

that's the opposite of that. Yeah.

23:55

Yeah.

23:55

Pretty rough. Now, this is great.

23:59

I did not know this, which

24:01

is sort of embarrassing. Coffeezilla,

24:04

has made a video about 30. Oh, really?

24:07

Yes. It was back when we did

24:09

that NICEH sponsored video

24:12

and I obviously haven't watched it.

24:14

I'm very sorry. I I will I

24:16

will watch it at some

24:17

point. Mhmm. So I obviously

24:19

haven't watched it. But

24:21

Let's go. It is apparently focused

24:25

on the criminal history of

24:27

the founder of NICE HASH. Oh,

24:32

which I did become aware

24:34

of after we uploaded

24:36

that video that was sponsored by

24:38

NICEH, We did tell you guys after that

24:40

on the following when. Show there's actually comments under

24:42

the video about it. I was just looking I'm browsing

24:44

the I can't watch the video live, so

24:46

I'm browsing the comments to see sort of

24:48

what was in it and what wasn't in

24:51

it. So people apparently, a

24:53

week later, we did address it on WAN Show. No.

24:55

It was not something that I was

24:57

aware of. And we have not worked with NICE hash

24:59

since then. We won't work with NICE hash

25:01

again. With that said, that doesn't mean and

25:03

30 I said at the time, doesn't mean that

25:05

I haven't used the product. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't use

25:07

the product. It's been fine

25:09

the times that I've used it. In fact, I

25:11

used it today. We did a

25:14

video. The title's gonna be asked me why

25:16

I'm Crypto Mining in twenty twenty

25:18

three. I know why.

25:20

It's great. Anyway,

25:23

I was lazy. And

25:25

as you will discover later on in

25:27

the video, it doesn't really matter. So we just

25:29

30 use NICEH to effectively

25:32

mine as a benchmark.

25:36

And so hopefully,

25:38

I'm gonna watch this video

25:41

and it's gonna not be too bad.

25:45

I guess I

25:47

have that to look forward to after the

25:49

show. Excuse me.

25:52

30, yeah.

25:54

It's rough. Alrighty. Cool. We've

25:56

had a lot of sponsorships

26:00

30 been around for a long time. We've had a lot of sponsors. We've had a

26:02

lot of sponsorships that have gone extremely well.

26:04

Companies have grown with us, and

26:06

we've stuck with them for really really

26:08

extended periods of time. Yeah. We've also had some flagships where they

26:11

didn't go that well and we stopped working with them.

26:13

Yep. I mean, that's the thing, guys.

26:16

Is I've never pretended to be

26:18

perfect. I've I've

26:20

never I've never said, like,

26:22

I I and

26:24

men, especially before, like, we we didn't

26:26

always have the time to dig deep

26:28

into every single sponsor, and it's it's

26:30

not a valid excuse. Period, which

26:32

is why we're always striving to do better, but we

26:34

do strive to do better. And,

26:37

you know, we hold our

26:39

we hold our response to a very high standard.

26:41

If we get complaints from our community

26:43

that our sponsors are not treating

26:45

them correctly, we do follow

26:47

those things up. If it becomes

26:50

a pattern, we do

26:52

drop sponsors. We do it on a very regular

26:54

basis. We also have an official

26:56

means by which you can provide

26:58

30. You can suggest future sponsors,

27:01

companies you'd like to see us work with. You can

27:03

bring up your concerns about

27:05

sponsors that we've worked with in

27:07

the past. And

27:09

we've suggestions, complaints. These are

27:11

threads that I'm going to

27:13

be enraged if I don't see

27:15

staff posts in here recently. There

27:18

you go. December twentieth. Thank you,

27:20

Sven. These are threads that there's

27:22

Jeff. These are threads we do monitor

27:24

that we do take extremely serious.

27:26

We have dropped sponsors because of feedback

27:28

in that thread. Absolutely. 30. So

27:31

that's kind of all

27:33

I've got to say about it is yeah.

27:35

30 haven't always gotten it right in the past, but

27:37

we are absolutely always revising

27:40

our processes and trying to do

27:43

better 30 so hopefully you

27:45

won't see mistakes like that from us

27:47

again, but I'm

27:49

not claiming to be perfect. It's

27:51

possible something we'll stick to the cracks. 30 might. And if you do let us

27:53

know. It's possible new information will come to light.

27:55

And when it does, we will react.

27:58

I mean, I can tell you guys

28:00

the partnership with

28:02

Anchor slash You

28:04

fee slash SoundCore slash,

28:06

you know, Nebula. It's

28:09

Nebula. Right? Their their projector brand?

28:11

I don't know. I I don't wanna get

28:13

this wrong. So Banker

28:15

projector brand.

28:20

Yeah. Bila. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was a six

28:22

figure source of income. For

28:24

the company. But what you guys

28:26

can expect from me is if we see the

28:28

kind of egregious anti

28:31

consumer behavior that we

28:33

saw from occur a number of weeks 30. We

28:35

will drop them and there will not be any

28:37

hesitation. You guys saw it. We dropped

28:39

them live on the show as soon as I figured out what

28:41

the heck was going on. And

28:46

that's that's what you can expect.

28:49

Yeah? What about

28:50

the VPNs? We haven't done a

28:52

VPN spot in

28:55

probably about eighteen

28:57

months. And

29:01

the truth is that when it comes to

29:03

VPNs,

29:06

It's complicated. A lot of the ways that they're marketed --

29:08

Yeah. -- is the biggest problem. But we

29:10

didn't do that. Yep. We

29:13

marketed them as what they

29:15

are. A tool in your

29:17

security toolbox that is useful for

29:19

some

29:19

things. And it is, I

29:22

still use PIA

29:25

If not daily,

29:26

at least weekly.

29:28

Maybe not weekly, at least

29:30

30. I still use PIA regularly.

29:33

I still have an account that I

29:35

pay for. And

29:37

are they are they

29:40

trustworthy? I guess that's the

29:42

problem. Right? It shouldn't act like any of

29:43

them are. Yeah. Because they they

29:45

all have the ability to track all the

29:48

things that you're doing. And they can say they

29:50

won't store whatever. But what

29:52

we got really tired of is the

29:54

acquisition Carousel.

29:56

Yeah. And okay. I guess yeah.

29:58

I guess we're about to get in pretty deep

30:00

into the the internal weeds 30. But

30:03

our response to the last

30:06

acquisition event was

30:08

To go for it? Yeah. I'm going for it was

30:10

to strongly consider creating our

30:12

own VPN. We did. Okay.

30:14

Well, I wasn't gonna go that far, but we

30:16

got you're gonna talk about stuff my team 30. I

30:18

can give my team props. Alright. They did it.

30:20

They pulled it together. They built it it worked. The float

30:23

plane team built float VPN

30:25

in, like, seven two

30:27

hours. It was actually, like, really good. It

30:29

30 really surprisingly 30. And it was

30:31

linked through float plane. We built this

30:34

whole system so that it was rewarded

30:36

to accounts that were already in

30:38

Flowplanes. We are automatically gonna give

30:40

everyone on Flowplane free VPN

30:42

To to, like, to load test and make sure that it

30:44

was working. Oh, that was gonna be the beta. Like,

30:46

it was pretty cool. And then

30:48

we looked into the legal stuff

30:50

of it because we were

30:52

myself and my team, and this is my

30:54

fault and my problem. I will admit

30:56

this. It was exciting. It was an

30:58

interesting new thing to work on. Yeah. It's cool tech.

31:00

Like It it is pretty cool tech. There's

31:02

30 lot of really cool 30 source systems

31:05

floating around. And we just

31:07

dove head first. And

31:08

then as we were, like, kinda

31:10

coming up for air, I was working on the

31:12

legal stuff and lawyers

31:15

were, like, Yeah.

31:17

No. They were pretty clear about that.

31:19

Yeah. Like, if I if I

31:21

lived in, like, you know Cadence, like,

31:23

I recently had to strip that code out of the front

31:25

end. Yeah. It was, like,

31:28

it it was there. Like, we did 30. That

31:30

was working. Yeah. 30. Yeah.

31:33

Yeah. Lawyers were 30, like,

31:37

even if you try to do everything as

31:39

right as possible, with the nature of what a

31:41

VPN is, someone is going

31:43

to, oh, man, I don't know how much this I

31:45

wanna say. Just because there's

31:47

certain words that I would have to say that

31:48

are, like, not cool. I

31:50

I don't know. Just say them, but So they they

31:52

said they said something like I'll believe I'll

31:54

believe 30 other word. No.

31:57

No. No. It's fine. I'll try to

31:59

is mine working? It looked

32:02

like it worked. Yeah. I think it's a good thing.

32:04

So the lawyer was basically, like,

32:09

There There's 30 talked about this. Right?

32:11

There's there's what is legal and what you

32:13

think is morally fine. So

32:15

you might be okay with blocking ads on

32:17

YouTube or whatever. You might be okay with

32:19

pirating a video game that you can't afford to buy

32:21

anyways or whatever. You might

32:23

be okay with that Okay. The the blocking ads

32:25

on YouTube is not illegal. Yeah.

32:27

That's why I jumped in. But let's say let's say pirating

32:29

illegal. So say you're downloading

32:31

an MP3 Yeah.

32:33

You're doing something that is technically illegal,

32:36

but most people are not gonna be that

32:38

angry about. Sure. Maybe

32:40

people use your VPN for

32:42

that sometimes. Yep. Instead of

32:44

totally okay things. And maybe you're not that upset

32:46

by it. Maybe they download something other than a

32:48

Linux ISO or a World of War a

32:50

craft installer. What if someone uses

32:52

it for child? Right.

32:54

I think you can say the word

32:56

pornography. I don't like putting those two together.

32:58

That's fair. It makes me uncomfortable. Yep.

33:00

That's fair. And the second the lawyer said that,

33:02

I was like, wow. I'm

33:04

uncomfortable. Yep. And they're

33:05

like, what if you knew someone was doing

33:07

that on your service? But it's

33:09

in your TOS that you won't stop them

33:11

from using your service.

33:13

Oh. Do you want to be the

33:15

person that defends them? Do you want to

33:17

be the person that has to defend them on, like,

33:19

a legal level? I don't think we ever do. You have to be the

33:21

person that wants to defend them governments trying

33:23

to get their

33:23

information. I was super busy. And we were 30, whoa.

33:26

No. I was super busy at this period,

33:28

so I was basically just getting, like,

33:31

small updates. I think the only update I got

33:33

was we're not doing it. Yeah.

33:35

So I was like, we're working on it. It's

33:37

awesome. It's functioning. We're gonna give it a beta.

33:39

All these 30 plain users And then I

33:41

think we were, like, driving in the car some way

33:43

and somewhere and I was, like, yeah, by the way, the whole

33:45

project's axed. We're just done. Because I was,

33:47

like, there's just no way. They

33:49

also said, that even if it was

33:51

as insulated as possible from this

33:53

company, yeah, there's inevitably

33:55

going to be similar ownership

33:58

Yeah. So they'll they'll come at you regardless. Like, it was

34:00

it was scary for a bunch of reasons, and

34:02

there was many individual reasons

34:05

that by themselves would have asked

34:08

the project. Yeah. And there

34:08

was like a bunch of them. That's why I was like, there's no point in

34:11

having this discussion. No, like, sane person is

34:13

gonna wanna go along with

34:15

So it's just the project. Yeah. And it's not like you

34:17

could just create in terms of

34:20

service that are

34:22

like, okay. Here's how it's gonna be. We're you

34:24

do, the easy

34:25

legal 30, we're

34:28

chill. But if you do these

34:30

illegal

34:30

things, 30 gonna turn you over. Yeah. Yeah.

34:32

Like, how are we supposed to be the

34:34

arbiters of that? So it's a lot easier

34:37

for us to just say forget about it.

34:39

I gotta tell you though, the money shirt looked

34:41

good. Oh 30 goodness.

34:44

When you do the math, man,

34:47

30 were like, oh, Rachel.

34:50

It's gonna be amazing. Like, you see

34:52

you see the sales that people do on VPN 30?

34:54

Yeah. And you're like, Wow. Like, can they make any

34:56

money? And and then you you see the affiliate push

34:58

that they're doing, like, they're just sponsoring

35:00

everybody. It's crazy and it's

35:02

like, how how is this possibly profitable?

35:05

And then I'm not gonna say who it was mostly

35:07

because I don't remember. But

35:10

there was a VPN

35:11

out there. That exposed the amount of users that

35:14

they had and they had free users and paid users.

35:16

They 30 the amount of users that they had

35:18

under both

35:20

categories. And they showed the amount of bandwidth going through

35:22

at all points in time. Yep. And

35:24

they showed where all of their individual

35:26

servers were around the entire

35:29

world. And if you know a bunch of stuff about server hosting, you

35:32

can kind of figure

35:34

out who those servers are

35:36

hosted with So

35:38

you can

35:39

get a really

35:40

crazily accurate and like

35:42

caustic and Especially if you're

35:45

our team, who probably has Rackspace in,

35:47

like Those are

35:49

the data centers. Yeah.

35:52

Already. Right? Like, well, there's even

35:54

there there they got really 30. Yeah. It's WinScribe.

35:56

That's the one. That is the one. Right. Yeah.

35:58

So you could figure out a lot of,

36:00

like, much money they're probably making, how much money this is probably costing them. And like, no,

36:02

30, it's not free to be able to have this

36:06

you need like, a mesh of around

36:08

the world. There's a decent amount of startup cost.

36:10

30, like, the second, you get

36:13

a reasonable amount of users. Whoa.

36:16

It's a money printing machine.

36:18

Big money. I can totally understand

36:20

why 30 get into money. 30.

36:23

So the money. Yeah. And then there's all the

36:26

downsides and it's like, whoa. This

36:28

is not something that I want

36:30

to help with,

36:32

really? So

36:34

We left actually a pretty monstrous amount of money

36:36

on the table, and we left a project that

36:38

was, like, ready for beta 30.

36:40

Like, it was ready to 30. It

36:42

was actually quite sophisticated. It was it was good. It was made

36:44

well. The people that worked on it were proud of

36:46

it and they should have been. Like, we to be

36:48

clear, we didn't coat it from scratch.

36:52

30 did what you should do, and we leaned on a lot of open source tools

36:54

for it. For sure. Yeah. But that's part

36:56

of maintaining at least some

36:58

some amount of facade of of

37:02

transparency and Yeah. We wanted to use the open

37:04

source tools to send people could see how

37:05

it works more

37:08

more better Yeah.

37:10

And you can, like, I think we've even made a video of, like,

37:12

this is how you make your own VPN. Like, you

37:14

can do it yourself, stuff

37:17

like that. But I mean, we we had some I

37:20

had some kinda cool ideas for how

37:22

we could differentiate as 30. Like,

37:25

you know, trust no one,

37:27

but here's why you can trust us.

37:29

You know, like III had

37:31

the idea of, like, creating

37:33

some kind of some kind of legal

37:35

framework for guaranteeing that the

37:38

ownership would never change

37:40

from, like, Oh,

37:42

yeah. 30 and Ron and Luke or something like that.

37:44

Like, basically, it's it

37:46

would be the 30 us pro terms

37:50

of service. Which isn't

37:52

perfect. But

37:54

if we're willing to get out there personally

37:56

and say 30, no, it's all on

37:58

us instead of just like let him know.

38:00

I mean, it's all good, but we might sell and then who

38:02

knows who's gonna own it after. Right. Because that's

38:05

I don't think you finished that conversation, but that

38:07

was a problem that you had

38:09

with some VPNs that were sponsoring us -- Yep.

38:11

-- is because we'd be happy with where they are

38:13

at, but then they would sell. It's like, well, all

38:15

the user data

38:17

just changed hands. Now what? And

38:18

maybe it changed hands to a group that

38:20

someone isn't go with. Maybe it

38:22

did, maybe it didn't. I don't know. Who knows? It's

38:24

just it's just an awkward situation to

38:27

be in. And just got kinda tired of it. So Yep.

38:29

Yeah. There that there's the there's the flow

38:31

of VPN story. Yeah.

38:33

Man, should we should we tell 30 should we

38:35

should we continue story time?

38:37

What what else?

38:38

There's probably lots. I don't know. Should should

38:40

we talk about the should we talk about the time

38:42

that Linus Media Group got an

38:45

offer for acquisition? Well, I mean, we could.

38:47

It clearly said no. So there you

38:50

go. What clearly said no?

38:52

Yeah. You you clearly said no? No.

38:54

Well, I

38:56

mean,

38:56

Oh, didn't get acquired? No. We didn't we didn't get acquired. But,

38:58

you know, maybe we'll talk

39:00

about that later. For now,

39:04

If you guys have anything you wanna talk about on the show, it's a

39:06

perfect time to send in a merch message. Oh

39:08

oh, we launched a new product. 30 have

39:11

to address Well, that out. Yeah. I have to address someone

39:13

just said float VPN sank 30 is

39:16

untrue. It went into the dry dock and it got

39:18

decommissioned. Okay? Yeah. It

39:20

was fine. Yeah. We took it out of the water. Oh, he's he's

39:22

strip it on stream. Let's go. Oh, you're not allowed

39:24

to strip on stream. This is not

39:26

stripping. This is just

39:28

He's reconfiguring,

39:30

yeah, fabric objects below

39:33

the table. It's all good. He's

39:35

what is it? Sorry. You're working on the

39:37

eco infrastructure of the

39:40

database. Yeah.

39:42

Yeah. I wanna

39:44

find the line. I wanna say it

39:46

specifically. Prove, I'm not wearing pants.

39:50

That should be that should

39:52

be the Oh, did the knee come up?

39:54

Maybe. 30 is

39:56

it? I gotta find it. Okay. Here it is. Undergrowing

39:58

upgrades to the core infrastructure of

40:02

the ecosystem. He's undergoing upgrades to the core infrastructure

40:04

of the leg covering system.

40:06

Yeah. Yeah. There we go.

40:08

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really comfy. Yeah. They're super comfy.

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go on the site. 30 t

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40:32

pants. New

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plaid. Oh.

40:36

Oh, that's right. Did we even talk about New Plaid yet? No.

40:38

Oh, yeah. There's new there's

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a for crying a lot. That's a good

40:42

it's a great Sayo screwdriver. Good site.

40:46

Good site. Oh, yeah.

40:47

So we've got all these different colors of 30 now. No. There's like a bunch

40:49

of

40:49

those. Pretty fun.

40:52

The

40:53

plaid flannel is extremely well

40:57

reviewed. Every once in a while, I will just read through

40:59

reviews on our site 30

41:01

it's it's nice. And

41:04

the number of people that are like,

41:06

yeah, it's expensive,

41:09

but I have I've

41:12

had this plaid flannel for,

41:14

like, the last twenty five years, and

41:16

I never thought I'd find something that could

41:18

replace it. But this one replaced

41:20

it. It's it's it's pretty

41:21

awesome. Really stoked on that one.

41:24

Also, the

41:26

pajama pants

41:28

not gonna lie. We we went back and forth on

41:30

the pricing for this one based on

41:32

our kind of margin targets

41:36

it should 30 probably nine to

41:38

forty nine ninety nine. But even

41:41

though they're

41:42

30, Amazing? Yeah.

41:44

I touched my leg.

41:46

Oh, you're not I was pretty honest.

41:48

I

41:48

think you 30 go higher. Yeah. I mean,

41:51

30 I'm getting. Five. Even though

41:53

they're like even though they're

41:55

like amazing, it seemed like a lot. So

41:57

we ended up with thirty

41:59

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42:01

of rayon from bamboo, merino

42:05

wool, and spandex. They

42:08

really make you feel like you're wearing nothing at all.

42:10

Oh, nothing at all. Nothing at

42:13

all. They're actually quite flattering too.

42:15

In my humble opinion,

42:18

They look sharp. I like the gray. Yeah. Did you

42:20

say what color they are? It's like They're

42:23

gray. Yeah. It's a gray. Yep.

42:26

Yeah. So super stoked on the

42:28

pajama pants.

42:34

Go ahead. Yeah. I like my I have

42:35

the, like, original red I like it quite a bit.

42:38

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42:39

nice. Alright. What else

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first sponsor ever of anything. Yeah. So

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Corsair was first, but I think

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sponsors can't get enough of it. If you go back far

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whatever, that'll come up down here. Sometimes he

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curates things for us to talk about later on in

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the show. But first, we're

47:36

gonna have to talk about some more topics here. Should

47:38

we should we do the LTX weekly updates really

47:40

quick? No. I think we got to do New

47:42

York passes right to

47:44

repair bill after neutering it.

47:46

Rosman's ruff rightly

47:50

so, The Digital

47:52

Fair Repair Act has become

47:54

the first right to repair bill in the

47:56

US that has been signed into law by

47:59

New York State Governor Kathy 30. I

48:01

don't know pronounce is this is months after bipartisan

48:04

majorities passed it through the

48:06

state legislature. Note,

48:08

president Biden did issue an executive order last year,

48:10

which directs federal agencies to issue right to 30

48:12

but this is the first right to

48:16

repair bill to actually be signed into law. The bill

48:18

requires electronics OEMs to provide

48:20

manuals, diagrams,

48:22

diagnostic tools, parts

48:24

to product owners and repair shops.

48:27

But while many

48:31

30 to repair advocate, including iFix' CEO

48:33

Kyle 30, have celebrated the fact that the

48:35

bill passed at all. Others

48:37

are criticizing the heavy modifications

48:39

that were made to

48:42

the bill thanks to lobbying efforts by trade groups like

48:43

Technet, whose members include

48:46

Apple. Sorry, that's

48:47

the wrong finger. Apple Amazon,

48:50

Google, Meta Snap, HP, GM,

48:53

Toyota. It's basically everybody.

48:55

Certain products and industries are

48:57

exempted for one thing including

48:59

home appliances, why? Yeah.

49:02

Motor 30, why? Definitely shouldn't

49:04

be that either. Medical devices, you.

49:08

Why? Honestly,

49:12

why? Off road equipment? That's

49:16

yeah. Well, I mean, John

49:18

Deere's gotta protect their margins somehow.

49:20

Right? There there was definitely lobbying

49:22

there. And business to

49:24

business or business to government

49:26

products not sold by

49:27

retailers. So 30, any direct

49:30

sales to a large

49:32

volume buyer.

49:32

It also

49:33

added that OEMs may

49:36

provide assemblies

49:38

of parts rather than

49:40

individual components when the

49:42

risk of improper installation

49:44

heightens the risk of

49:46

injury.

49:46

So I guess we just need to buy an entire eight

49:48

hundred dollar laptop motherboard instead of

49:51

a twenty dollar cooler because those

49:53

fins could be really sharp.

49:56

I guess, I mean, I was outraged when I found out remember the iMac Pro

49:59

debacle, I was outraged when I found out that

50:01

you couldn't just get a motherboard.

50:04

Oh, no. A motherboard includes a CPU and RAM. What? Because I'm doing competent

50:06

to plug in a CPU and RAM? I

50:08

mean, never mind that we did break it in the

50:11

first place. But I was willing to pay for a new one

50:13

if I broke it. The law will also only

50:16

apply to new

50:18

products sold for the

50:20

first time in New York on or after

50:22

July first twenty twenty

50:24

three. So

50:26

30, it has no fangs, doesn't

50:29

apply to most of the

50:31

most important segments, and there's

50:33

ways that they can work around it,

50:36

and basically not change

50:38

anything. 30 such a

50:40

fluff. I do still think that attitudes

50:42

are shifting

50:44

The fact that Apple introduced their home repair

50:46

program at all. The fact that

50:48

Microsoft started discussing right to

50:51

repair at all. Is it is it Dell with the

50:53

super cool laptop? Dell with project Luna. The

50:55

fact that that's happening at

50:58

all is Good. Yes.

51:00

And it's progress, but

51:02

this setback shows that

51:04

we have to keep the pressure on. And the

51:06

lobbying is effective And that lobbying is

51:08

also effective. As lobbying 30 gross.

51:10

It sure

51:11

is. It's super

51:14

gross.

51:14

And that that should

51:16

be bipartisan because it's gross in every direction. Now

51:18

someone was asking why only in New York? Because

51:20

in

51:21

America, it's basically fifty

51:23

two small

51:25

countries. As far as I

51:28

can

51:28

tell. This is just

51:29

based on my experience dealing with

51:32

tax 30. In the US. Yeah. little

51:34

it's a little confusing. It is As far

51:36

as I know, it's confusing the insiders too,

51:38

though. It is wild. How

51:41

different the experience of being an American

51:43

can be, like 30 meters

51:46

away that

51:48

way. That's about nine feet. I know of American companies

51:50

that think that American tax law is so

51:52

confusing. Major companies that you

51:54

have used, I pretty much guarantee

51:58

it. That find tax law in America to be so confusing

52:00

that their official stance when their company

52:02

was coming up was to completely

52:05

ignore all of it. And when different

52:08

sections of the states, because there's

52:10

like a billion of them because it goes down

52:12

to like counties and

52:14

stuff individually, 30. They

52:16

can. Would get mad at them for not paying their

52:18

taxes properly. They would just ask them how

52:20

to do it, and then do it

52:22

moving forward, and then never

52:24

update it. Until that

52:26

area got mad about it because they're doing it

52:28

wrong now, and then would send them a new letter.

52:30

Because they decided that it would

52:32

cost them less money to deal with

52:34

the fines than it would

52:36

working with a company who kept track of

52:38

all of it and then took money for

52:40

doing

52:40

that. Our chief financial officer -- Crazy.

52:42

-- doesn't have the I

52:45

don't know I don't know what to

52:47

call it. The the the stress

52:50

tolerance to take a a build a

52:52

war chest and just pay fines kind of approach

52:54

to that stuff. We actually do try to do things properly

52:58

and proactively. 30 that

53:00

that is a But it's really hard. That is a legitimate

53:02

approach that has been used -- Yeah. --

53:05

multi billion dollar 30. I I get I

53:07

get asked on a regular basis. Lines,

53:09

why don't you guys have a shipping DC in the states? Why don't you

53:11

have a ship why don't you have a shipping DC

53:13

in Europe? Why don't you do this? Why don't you do

53:15

that? Because to do it

53:18

properly 30 really really

53:19

hard. Taxes are hypercom. Really

53:22

hard. 30 accounting

53:24

department

53:24

is

53:26

So what someone five people now. Someone in Flopland 30 said

53:28

there's

53:28

six thousand tax jurisdictions that they need

53:31

to keep track of. Yeah. And the

53:33

documentation for it is a atrocious.

53:36

Like, consider oh, okay.

53:38

Here. Some counties in the US

53:40

still send out physical mail

53:42

to local

53:44

stores to tell them when taxes update.

53:46

Well, I'm clearly not going to get

53:49

that mailer. Like, Yeah. Well,

53:51

I was I was gonna say, consider how,

53:54

like, broken the processes

53:56

are for something as simple as, you

53:58

know, getting your ID. Or it was like

54:00

a library card in many

54:02

municipalities? Well, it's not

54:04

like it's it's not like they put their a

54:06

team on the the tax documentation.

54:10

They're just isn't today too. They can

54:12

just find you. So why would they care?

54:14

Yeah. They ultimately don't care.

54:16

That's the man, that's

54:18

really frustrating. The fact that they can

54:20

just kick it back to you and say, well, it's

54:22

your fault for not understanding it. Here's your

54:24

bill. It's like, outrageous.

54:26

California is one that

54:28

I particularly take issue with their

54:31

approach. California seems to think that

54:34

as a foreign national, I am

54:36

somehow obligated to pay them

54:38

income tax.

54:41

That's that's a new

54:43

one. Howard Bauchner: And

54:45

so, has a foreign

54:48

national running foreign incorporated

54:52

entity, they seem to

54:54

think that if some proportion of our

54:57

income comes from California based

55:00

entities that they are entitled

55:02

to income tax -- From you

55:04

personally. -- from my company.

55:06

Oh, okay. I mean, it's

55:08

still messed up. To which I would say under

55:11

what authority

55:13

30, what are

55:15

you gonna do? Canada's not

55:17

Canada's not gonna extradite

55:19

me to California. Yeah.

55:22

But you travel there sometimes. I could just not. I stopped traveling

55:24

to China. I don't go to China anymore after

55:26

they abducted the Michaels. I'm just like,

55:29

I'm sorry, what? Are you kidding me? That's dumb.

55:31

30 about casually. It's just, like, remember when

55:34

they abducted the Michael's

55:36

I know exactly what you're talking about. They did. I just

55:39

Yeah. They were, like, hey, that

55:41

completely justified apprehension of

55:44

a

55:45

Huawei executive. 30

55:49

didn't like it because we're an

55:51

authoritarian state, so we're just

55:53

going to casually 30

55:56

some Canadians and not give them back until you just

55:58

say, yeah, it's all cool laws don't

56:00

apply to Chinese nationals.

56:03

So k. What? Yep.

56:06

Yep. That do be a thing.

56:09

30. They're back

56:10

now, which is good. But, like, I'm

56:14

just not 30 go there anymore.

56:16

That's what happens, China? You don't

56:18

get wine as anymore. That's right.

56:21

III even still have a valid

56:23

visa. I can go there for like another

56:25

four

56:25

years. I mean, based on that, I've

56:27

said this now and mentioned Winnie

56:29

the totally out context. Yep. I probably

56:32

shouldn't. Yeah. We

56:35

go there together. Instead of the Michaels, it becomes

56:38

the people whose names start with l.

56:40

They just just take both of

56:41

us. The line isn't who?

56:44

It's a big l right small l. We

56:47

got them both. Oh

56:51

my goodness. Yeah. Okay.

56:54

We did that one. I'm gonna

56:56

do the LTX update really quick just because I

56:59

I'm certain we're gonna forget. Hold on. I

57:01

wanna make something really clear. Okay.

57:03

To our to our

57:05

Chinese viewers and -- Oh. -- the people

57:07

living in China in general -- Fair

57:09

enough. -- obviously. I hope this

57:12

is obvious. I bear you no ill will whatsoever. None at all.

57:15

But the CCP can

57:18

go off. And that is not and

57:21

and to be clear, that is not

57:23

exclusive to the CCP. I

57:26

don't I think it would be hard

57:28

for me to think of I

57:31

don't think I can off the top

57:33

of my head think of a

57:35

world government or a world governing

57:38

body that frankly

57:40

shouldn't just go self.

57:42

There's probably some somewhere. I

57:45

don't know. I don't know. I remember for

57:47

a while there, this is this was

57:49

quite a while ago. And I didn't look into

57:51

it deep enough and someone's probably gonna point out

57:53

some crazy human rights relation that I didn't know

57:55

about, and I'm gonna look like a bad person. But quite

57:58

a while ago, I used to think the government of

58:00

Estonia was pretty cool. That's gonna sound

58:02

really random. The reason why was they they digitized a

58:04

bunch of their governance

58:06

and got rid of a massive

58:09

amount of cost which when

58:12

government has cost, 30 means you

58:14

have payment cost. Yeah. So they

58:16

got rid of a ton of cost by digitizing a bunch

58:18

of it. And they automated,

58:21

like, huge amounts of their governance.

58:23

And then they started exporting

58:25

these governance tools as an

58:28

export of the 30, so they started

58:30

making money from it. And I'm like, this

58:32

is cool. I don't know what

58:34

happened with that. It was a long

58:36

time ago. I know 30 nothing about the country. I just

58:38

thought that one specific thing was

58:39

cool. I don't

58:42

I I

58:44

don't wanna I'm not dying on this sword. That's

58:46

what I'm saying. I'm not

58:48

interested in that. I just thought that was

58:50

kinda neat because, yeah, 30 Estonia or

58:54

whatever. Because I you you try to do,

58:56

like, so many different things with government,

58:58

and it's so tedious, and

59:00

it's 30, oh, I have to fax something

59:03

or after, like, go into this office physically to pay

59:06

this, like, twenty dollar tax

59:08

bill. You ready for another story time?

59:10

Sure. Yeah.

59:12

Okay. I got a new car.

59:14

Yeah. It's pretty cool. I imported it from

59:16

-- Oh, yeah. -- the province of Quebec.

59:18

30. Anytime

59:21

if you're if you're 30 outside of

59:23

Canada, anytime you touch Quebec 30

59:26

any way. It's

59:28

a disaster. Anytime.

59:30

Again, shout out the people

59:32

of Quebec.

59:33

Yeah. Love you very much. Right. We employ

59:35

two of them. They're fantastic. Very

59:37

happy with both the 30.

59:39

But some of the Quebec government

59:42

policies actually 30

59:44

to be written by idiots.

59:47

And yeah. Yep. I mean, they screw over people in Quebec

59:49

more than anything. You hear about giveaways that include

59:51

Canada and they're like everywhere in

59:53

North America except

59:56

specifically Quebec. It's 30, oh, that's not

59:58

because companies hate you. Yeah. It's

1:00:01

because your government hates you.

1:00:04

Yeah. It's brutal. Anyway,

1:00:06

30, so is Quebec the

1:00:08

California of Canada? No. I wouldn't say they're

1:00:10

the California. The weather isn't very

1:00:14

good. Yeah. But would you say Quebec is Alberta is definitely

1:00:16

our Texas. Yep. I don't think there's

1:00:18

a lot of other I mean, Quebec's

1:00:21

sort of, like, they're Lake Californians in the sense that they just,

1:00:23

like, wanna secede all the

1:00:26

time. Not recently, mind you. So

1:00:28

does Texas? Yeah. So does Texas. Yeah. But Texas is the Alberta also wants to

1:00:30

succeed all the time. So, like, the Alberta

1:00:32

Texas Yeah. That's that's relationship

1:00:34

is clearly Vancouver

1:00:38

is Washington or the

1:00:40

BC is Washington. Got people saying they're the

1:00:42

Florida. I could kinda see that. They 30 kinda

1:00:44

do their

1:00:46

own thing. But you don't hear,

1:00:48

like, 30 man has

1:00:50

wrestled an alligator. Yeah. That's

1:00:53

that's true. That's true. Probably because it would

1:00:55

have said, the Quebec

1:01:00

Yeah. You know, they would be in French. So you wouldn't

1:01:02

if I'm just at it. Fair enough. And

1:01:04

I know soda mousse.

1:01:06

Let's let's go let's go

1:01:08

back to

1:01:09

story time. I imported a

1:01:11

car from Quebec. There were a couple of compelling

1:01:13

reasons to do this. Yeah. It is a second

1:01:16

hand EV, which

1:01:18

means that

1:01:20

this particular unit because it's secondhand,

1:01:22

but with only about thirteen

1:01:24

hundred kilometers. Okay? So

1:01:27

that is, like, less than a thousand miles on it. So it's

1:01:29

a used car with less than a

1:01:32

thousand miles on it. Because it's

1:01:34

used, it

1:01:36

is exempt from

1:01:38

PST, provincial sales tax, which is

1:01:40

what about five percent or something like that?

1:01:42

I don't know. But I'll check. Also,

1:01:44

because it's used and it's

1:01:47

seven percent. Over the yeah. Seven percent.

1:01:49

Okay. So I save seven percent right out of the gate

1:01:51

from it being secondhand. Also,

1:01:54

because it's used, It's a used EV. No.

1:01:56

Wait. If it is a used EV, so

1:01:58

it is not subject to PST. Also,

1:02:01

because it is second

1:02:03

hand, it is not subject to the luxury

1:02:05

30, which saved me

1:02:08

I forget what the actual amount is.

1:02:11

In 30 on

1:02:14

cars. Hold

1:02:16

on. BC 30

1:02:20

tax calculator. A lot.

1:02:26

Quite a few thousands of dollars. So importing this

1:02:29

car from Quebec made a ton of financial sense

1:02:31

even though it costs, like, four thousand dollars to

1:02:33

ship it here. 30, it was way

1:02:36

that was way less than the amount that I

1:02:38

saved on it. Yeah. Okay?

1:02:42

So because it's from out of province,

1:02:44

even though it's a car that

1:02:46

was shipped to Canada, to a Canadian 30 registered in

1:02:48

Canada. Because it was registered in another

1:02:50

province, I have to go through

1:02:52

some some rigmarole. Okay? So I have

1:02:54

to get it.

1:02:56

I say safety inspection done before I can register it

1:02:58

in BC. It's like fair

1:03:00

enough. Let me tell you, that was a

1:03:02

quick inspection. I

1:03:05

mean, it's got a thousand miles on it. And it's

1:03:07

an EV. And it's an EV. What could go

1:03:09

wrong? It's a pretty quick inspection, so that

1:03:11

was good. So I went and I got that

1:03:13

done and I went to in in 30, we

1:03:15

have this crown corporation

1:03:19

monopoly on automotive

1:03:21

insurance called ICBC. 30 basically,

1:03:24

the theory is that by having it

1:03:27

be a crown corporation, which means

1:03:29

a government owned entity, they

1:03:32

can spread the

1:03:36

the the load of insurance claims over

1:03:38

the entire population of the province

1:03:40

lowering everyone's rates. In practice, particularly when the

1:03:42

BC Liberals were in power, that is certainly

1:03:45

not how it worked out. NDP

1:03:48

have actually done a much much better

1:03:50

job of getting our premiums down over the

1:03:52

last three, four years -- Yeah. -- which

1:03:55

kudos to them for that. Affair? It

1:03:57

was helped by almost no one being on the roads

1:03:59

for two years. That didn't hurt. Yep.

1:04:01

Yes. That's true. But I mean, hey,

1:04:03

if the savings get passed along to me, that's supposed to be how it works. Yeah. And they did they

1:04:06

literally sent out checks.

1:04:08

So, great. Right? So anyway,

1:04:11

In theory, that's how it's supposed to work. But in

1:04:13

practice, as you guys know,

1:04:16

in the absence

1:04:18

of competition, Well, you

1:04:20

tend to find complacency.

1:04:22

And the way that

1:04:24

I wish government agencies worked

1:04:26

was that their constituents were the

1:04:29

customer. But the way that government agencies

1:04:31

actually work is

1:04:34

that whatever minister is in

1:04:36

charge of that

1:04:38

particular agency is the

1:04:38

customer, and they don't seem to have any accountability to anybody

1:04:41

whatsoever. So you end up getting treated

1:04:43

like an inconvenience as opposed to

1:04:45

a valued customer.

1:04:48

So here's what happened.

1:04:49

When I went in to get my vehicle

1:04:51

registered and insured in BC, I

1:04:53

had to bring three

1:04:56

documents. One was the inspection report. One was the

1:04:58

registration of the vehicle from the

1:05:00

previous owner in 30. And the

1:05:02

third was the bill of sale

1:05:05

showing that I had purchased

1:05:07

the vehicle, paid my GST.

1:05:09

So that's the federal, the

1:05:11

general sales tax paid my GST and,

1:05:14

like, that I was me, you

1:05:16

know, that that that I was the one who was supposed

1:05:18

to own it. So that when I registered, it would

1:05:20

be registered to the right person. Here's what

1:05:22

happens. Okay. So we've got we've got

1:05:25

a local billionaire, Jimmy Patterson, pretty

1:05:27

well known for his

1:05:30

philanthropic work and he plays a mean what does he play

1:05:32

trumpet or something like that? He plays with the

1:05:34

Vancouver Symphony Orchestra from time to time.

1:05:36

Really? For

1:05:38

real. I went to 30, like, I forget if it was, like, Star Wars night or something

1:05:40

like that. And at the beginning, they were,

1:05:42

like, by the way, we have a special performer

1:05:43

tonight. The one

1:05:46

and only Jimmy Patterson is 30 he stands

1:05:48

up. Guys,

1:05:51

a pro. Anyway, Yeah.

1:05:54

Right? Just like rich people hobbies, I guess.

1:05:56

Yeah. I think I'll just I think I'll just

1:05:57

casually okay. Like, I don't know

1:06:00

how internationally

1:06:02

famous Vancouver, Saint New Yorkist res, but they're they're they're pretty fucking baller. Like,

1:06:04

they're pretty good. They're they're great. Yeah. You actually really like I

1:06:06

don't wanna see them. So you just like Absolutely. You

1:06:10

should go. Yeah. Just just casually plays with the 30 with the

1:06:12

VSO. And this was a number of years back. I don't know

1:06:14

if he still does. He's pretty old now. Anyway,

1:06:16

the point

1:06:18

is, that you know how he owns many car dealerships.

1:06:20

Many, many, many. Okay.

1:06:21

So Jim Patterson

1:06:22

Group is the the car dealership

1:06:24

30 Kiglamor and

1:06:26

meadows. Yeah. Right.

1:06:27

Okay. And within Jim Patterson

1:06:29

Group, you've got Jim Patterson Toyota.

1:06:31

Jim Patterson, you know, whatever else. Like, all

1:06:33

the all the different, like,

1:06:36

sub brands, and sometimes I think he has more than one dealership for a

1:06:38

particular brand in different

1:06:39

locations. So

1:06:40

it was

1:06:41

basically like that. Okay?

1:06:44

The

1:06:45

I'm gonna give away something about the car

1:06:48

here, I guess. But the

1:06:50

registration One's already

1:06:52

guessed it. Oh, really? 30 mean, there's been a ton of guesses, so I

1:06:54

will say that, and no one will have any idea what

1:06:56

that means. 30. So

1:06:58

the the registration was to

1:07:00

group LaSalle

1:07:02

And then

1:07:05

the the bill of sale

1:07:07

was from This is gonna give

1:07:09

a lot of way. Porsche

1:07:12

LaSão. Okay. That's way more on the

1:07:14

nose than I even thought you were going. But alright.

1:07:16

Yeah. And

1:07:18

30, Because those

1:07:21

two documents didn't match,

1:07:24

ICBC said

1:07:26

that they could not establish continuity for

1:07:28

the ownership of the vehicle. Yeah. Because

1:07:31

they said it was a

1:07:33

different entity selling

1:07:35

me the vehicle than it was

1:07:38

registered

1:07:39

to prior. So

1:07:41

the

1:07:41

broker that I

1:07:44

was

1:07:44

at Not

1:07:45

to be clear, guys, it could have been

1:07:47

any vehicle. It's a

1:07:48

used car.

1:07:49

So don't get too

1:07:51

smart here. The point is,

1:07:53

I I we

1:07:56

I worked every angle. It's a really

1:07:57

nice used car. I worked

1:08:00

every angle with the

1:08:02

broker. Okay? Every angle I could think of, can they send

1:08:04

you an email confirming that they are

1:08:06

the same

1:08:06

entity? Can you go on their website

1:08:10

and see that they are the same entities because because

1:08:12

30, the Jim Patterson thing is not it's obviously

1:08:14

not Jim Patterson, but it's effectively the same deal.

1:08:17

30 super obvious that it's

1:08:19

the same entity.

1:08:20

Yes. It's like every level.

1:08:22

It's right on the website. Yeah. The

1:08:24

only reason that you can't established

1:08:26

continuity is because you

1:08:28

refuse to look at it.

1:08:30

Yeah. We got as far as

1:08:32

so what they wanted was they wanted

1:08:35

them to create new

1:08:36

documents. And I was like, these are legal

1:08:37

documents. The entity that sold it to me is called BIS. 30 think they're not And the entity it

1:08:39

was registered to was called

1:08:40

BIS. They're not gonna legally rename their company.

1:08:42

No. They're not gonna do that. So

1:08:46

that's not a real solution. So you need

1:08:48

to give me a

1:08:50

real solution. I even I

1:08:51

even pointed out that if you go

1:08:53

on the like, the dot b c dot gov dot q whatever

1:08:56

it is. Dot q c dot gov, like

1:08:58

the official government of Quebec website,

1:08:59

and you do

1:09:02

a search for Group La Zan. It has all of the dealerships

1:09:04

that are 30 they're

1:09:05

like, we can't look at that. I'm like, 30. No. No.

1:09:07

No. No. No. It's literally government rights. They literally

1:09:09

scan this and sent it to you. I

1:09:11

know you've seen it.

1:09:13

I can't see it. No, you no, you did see it though.

1:09:15

Can you see that they're the same thing? I cannot. You.

1:09:20

Like, for real though, for 30. Like, you do know,

1:09:22

you do see it. This is not a problem. The dealership

1:09:24

said that they had shipped a vehicle

1:09:27

into BC literally five 30 30.

1:09:30

And it wasn't a problem at all. The documentation

1:09:32

was exactly the same. There was

1:09:34

no problem. Basically, what I think

1:09:36

we ran into was someone who kind of

1:09:39

misunderstood and the documents were in French. Right? So it So

1:09:41

they kind of misunderstood a

1:09:44

little. Sure. They

1:09:47

gave an answer. And then once they gave an answer,

1:09:49

was unable to back down. Yeah. And

1:09:51

you run into that a

1:09:54

lot in bureaucracies. Oh, yeah.

1:09:56

Absolutely. Like a lot, and it's

1:09:58

so frustrating if they were customer service driven, they would be looking for

1:10:01

a way to

1:10:04

help you. But because they are not customer

1:10:06

service

1:10:06

driven, they are looking for a way to,

1:10:08

I don't know, justify their own existence

1:10:10

on the other end of the phone

1:10:12

line. They

1:10:14

they wasted between my son

1:10:16

who I thought this was a ten

1:10:18

minute errand and brought with me. The

1:10:20

agent at the auto plan broker me

1:10:22

and them, they managed to waste probably about eight

1:10:24

hours of people's time 30 back and

1:10:26

forth and back and forth and back and

1:10:29

forth and back and forth on all these

1:10:31

different potential solutions. What they ultimately settled on was that they

1:10:33

wanted a letter

1:10:34

signed by, like, a signatory officer

1:10:39

of Group LaSonde that said that

1:10:42

they were the same company and it could not be faxed

1:10:44

or emailed or

1:10:47

DocuSigned or anything 30 had

1:10:50

to be the original document

1:10:51

the the auto plan brokers, like, this is unprecedented. Why can't

1:10:53

you fax it directly

1:10:56

to us? 30 is,

1:10:58

like, that is a legally valid way of

1:11:01

transmitted a document. Right? And they're

1:11:03

like, it cannot. 30, what

1:11:05

they decided was they didn't want me to get my

1:11:07

car insured that day. And this

1:11:09

is where, ultimately, I come

1:11:11

back to what you were talking about.

1:11:14

30 digitizing this kind of stuff

1:11:16

is a is a

1:11:18

customer first way of dealing with

1:11:20

things. And this is something that we talked about when

1:11:22

he was first telling me this is like, The argument

1:11:25

for not replacing these systems with

1:11:27

automation is that

1:11:30

the people should be able to handle those types of situations. But your

1:11:33

name starts with an n. You

1:11:35

know who you

1:11:38

are. Fuck you. For real. Honestly, is that

1:11:40

the person

1:11:41

who is working? Okay. Yeah.

1:11:43

But, like, if you are

1:11:45

going to be completely inflexible

1:11:48

and work and and

1:11:50

not be helpful or provide solutions or anything. If you're just gonna be super super hard, why don't all this gonna

1:11:52

stop? You might as well be an

1:11:54

AI. There is no benefit to you being

1:11:58

30 person? Yep. It just

1:12:00

makes it harder for everybody else. So

1:12:02

this is this is to bring

1:12:05

it all the way back. This is why I

1:12:07

thought what Estonia was doing was cool. I have

1:12:10

no idea if they've continued to

1:12:11

do 30. Maybe it's

1:12:13

gone to trash since then. It's been, like, at least Maybe

1:12:15

they're using it to impress people. I don't know. I have

1:12:18

no clue. It's been at least six years since I

1:12:21

looked into it, but it was, like, really cool when they first

1:12:23

started doing it. And I was really annoyed about some very

1:12:25

specific government stuff when I heard they were doing

1:12:27

this. So I

1:12:30

was like, yeah. It's awesome. But, yeah, they basically employed

1:12:32

a bunch of developers doing

1:12:35

high school tasks instead

1:12:38

of people filing, boring paperwork that they probably didn't wanna do anyways.

1:12:41

And then they exported that sort of making

1:12:43

money from it, saved anyone everyone

1:12:45

in the country a ton of money, taxes were able

1:12:47

to be lowered. They they if I remember, I don't know,

1:12:49

I'm gonna say a bunch of stuff that's wrong, so I'm

1:12:52

gonna stop

1:12:54

here. But it was cool. Yeah. Another unrelatable sinus millionaire

1:12:56

problem. No. Getting stuck

1:12:58

at the DMV is

1:13:01

literally a meme. It's the most

1:13:03

relatable thing ever. It's

1:13:06

super relatable. These kinds

1:13:08

of systems just I

1:13:11

also So are designed to

1:13:11

be inconvenient. Yeah. 30 nobody

1:13:14

likes having their time

1:13:16

wasted.

1:13:19

Do you? Do you? No. No. Jayden also said

1:13:22

in chat, I had a similar situation with

1:13:25

my current car. Bought from a dealership in

1:13:28

Sask 30 I lived in

1:13:29

BC, the dealership couldn't provide

1:13:32

satisfactory evidence that they owned it.

1:13:34

I ended up having to see a

1:13:36

lawyer to sort

1:13:37

it out. I'm so sorry to hear that,

1:13:40

Jaden. Yeah. Yeah.

1:13:44

Jane does pretty well. I don't believe

1:13:46

he's a millionaire, but he definitely I

1:13:50

mean, it's this is great. Max is so relatable. It was

1:13:53

in zootopia. Yeah. Exactly. 30 sloths

1:13:55

in zootopia. Yeah.

1:13:59

30 funny. Yeah. So funny. That's like sad.

1:14:01

I actually really love that movie. That is

1:14:03

pretty good. Yeah. This is great. Everyone's

1:14:06

piping in with their stories. Gandra Gremlins

1:14:08

has three

1:14:10

trips to my DMV to get an Illinois

1:14:12

license when moving from Massachusetts. Yeah. A

1:14:14

hundred percent. How how is that necessary?

1:14:17

There's no way How's that even possible?

1:14:19

Like, you know, honestly, this is one of the

1:14:21

things that 30, like, blows me away when because here

1:14:23

at least getting identification is really

1:14:27

painless and easy. But 30 you don't

1:14:29

have to go in physically. In in

1:14:31

America, you you hear

1:14:33

people talk about how needing to present

1:14:35

ID is some kind of like voter suppression

1:14:38

or whatever else, which I think is

1:14:40

wild because taking

1:14:42

a vote without ID is wild. Seems similar to me. I don't I don't know

1:14:44

how it works down there, so I I've never wanted

1:14:46

to voice This is the problem. Yeah. The problem

1:14:51

is that there are unbelievable hoops like they

1:14:53

were talking about to get

1:14:55

ID in the state

1:14:57

of many cases. Yeah. Okay.

1:14:59

So that's the issue. So it's one of those problems that shouldn't be. They

1:15:01

need to fix that problem. Exactly.

1:15:03

Yeah.

1:15:03

Exactly. So I

1:15:06

don't see why anyone disagrees. That

1:15:08

you should need to present ID to do something

1:15:10

as important as voting. What we should all agree on is

1:15:13

that getting ID should

1:15:15

be the most payingless, inexpensive

1:15:17

process in the world. Everybody needs

1:15:20

identification. What do

1:15:22

you

1:15:23

mean? You don't have

1:15:25

identification. And if you can't get it or it's hard

1:15:27

or it's

1:15:27

unaffordable or whatever else, that is

1:15:30

a fundamental problem. What does government even

1:15:32

exist 30.

1:15:35

Yeah. If not, libraries, roads, what's

1:15:38

the other one? Schools.

1:15:40

Libraries, roads, and

1:15:43

schools, well, I guess, defense too.

1:15:45

But like for

1:15:47

real, that's It's basic.

1:15:55

Alright. Last week I'm talking about,

1:15:58

we've got a little off topic

1:16:00

today. Sorry. I'm I'm,

1:16:02

like, back on my on my e Estonia thing. They have a whole website just called e Estonia. Okay.

1:16:04

30 looks like Yeah.

1:16:07

E Identity, so they've ID

1:16:09

cards, mobile IDs, e Residency Smart ID. This is all done. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

1:16:11

blah. They have all this all this

1:16:14

stuff they do. E tax,

1:16:17

e banking, e business registration. You don't even have to go into register a business.

1:16:19

Just do it online. That's amazing. Why would

1:16:23

you need to? The amount of crap that

1:16:25

you have to get a lawyer to, like, do paperwork for you. Why would

1:16:27

why why should you need to? It should just be

1:16:29

as simple as saying, yeah, this 30

1:16:32

and this. Wild.

1:16:34

And if you already have all

1:16:36

of these things that are digitized, then

1:16:38

they already have access to it. Everything's

1:16:41

good. Right? Like who cares? E 30

1:16:43

e ambulance, e prescriptions, 30, blah, blah,

1:16:45

blah, blah, all this different

1:16:47

type of stuff. It's

1:16:49

great. I've heard some criticism saying that

1:16:51

it wouldn't work as well in very large

1:16:51

countries. Estonia is a very small country. Sure. Doesn't matter for

1:16:54

Estonia and build it better. Yeah.

1:16:58

30 them, it's great. Does it can't

1:17:00

you can't use that criticism like against

1:17:02

30 Tony themselves? And they even recognize

1:17:04

they have this thing, the

1:17:06

evolution of digital public service. And

1:17:09

the first step is called

1:17:11

pain. Lack of money resources or manpower, and

1:17:15

they're like understanding Digitization can resolve

1:17:18

these issues by increasing accessibility to services. Add

1:17:23

support for increase IT

1:17:24

literacy. That's super cool. Tech 30 is Twitch chat

1:17:26

says I had my wallet stolen two years

1:17:31

ago. I haven't been able to get my ID because my Social Security card was

1:17:33

stolen with my

1:17:33

wallet. It's a pain in the butt to get ID

1:17:35

in the States. The fact that we

1:17:37

we

1:17:38

actually have a similar number in the

1:17:40

States called a SIM number.

1:17:42

Social insurance number, I think, is what it's called. Yeah. So we have a similar we have a similar system in Canada.

1:17:44

The fact that

1:17:47

this unchangeable number, they is

1:17:50

like a huge security problem 30 anyone

1:17:53

gets their hands on. And yet you have

1:17:55

to give it to basically 30 is

1:17:58

a system? Is a wild to

1:18:01

me? I mean, I had to

1:18:03

sign something a little while ago. Okay?

1:18:05

And I'm like signing it. And

1:18:07

I'm like, What does this do? this do? Whoever's gonna look

1:18:09

at this has no idea who

1:18:11

I am. No

1:18:14

idea I mean, the the idea of signing something

1:18:16

as validation comes from, like,

1:18:18

small town culture. And and

1:18:21

edit 30. We're

1:18:22

30 easy with the banker. The

1:18:25

the the one person who

1:18:27

works behind the v Banker. Yeah. The v Banker knows

1:18:29

30 John

1:18:32

Hancock John Hancock is

1:18:34

supposed to look like. Anything else? It's utterly How archaic

1:18:38

30 broken these systems are.

1:18:40

30 man.

1:18:44

Apparently, a sin is not unchangeable in Canada.

1:18:46

It's just really hard to do so. Yeah.

1:18:49

There you go. And then immediately. You

1:18:51

would have to change it constantly because everyone

1:18:53

from your employer to your

1:18:55

credit card issuer to

1:18:57

your bank is gonna need your social insurance number

1:19:00

because it's, like, so

1:19:02

so important and, like,

1:19:04

30, you were, like, whatever. Okay.

1:19:06

Except all these people have it. So Yeah. 30.

1:19:13

Sorry. I'm I'm having an angry lens showed up. No. It's

1:19:15

okay. I'm gonna derail us though because I almost forgot again, but

1:19:19

I was reminded. LTX

1:19:22

weekly updates. 30 ticket has been officially updated to do a hundred and fifty dollars. The

1:19:27

BLOC ticket includes two

1:19:30

day access to the expo. So unlike PACS tickets, I wanna make this really clear because

1:19:32

I think a lot of

1:19:34

people are used to PACS tickets.

1:19:37

Unlike PACS tickets, you just buy the BYOC ticket, and it includes two day access to

1:19:39

the expo. You don't

1:19:43

buy exited s access

1:19:46

to the Expo and the BYOC ticket. You just buy the BYOC ticket. Our BYOC is overnight, so you could

1:19:48

start at ten

1:19:51

AM on Saturday. And stay

1:19:54

in the BYOC area until six PM on Sunday. We're not saying that we recommend

1:19:56

that. But you

1:19:59

can, but you could. And

1:20:03

somebody probably will. BRC 30

1:20:07

probably will. BRC BRC

1:20:09

tickets will include a

1:20:11

whale land shirt. Sick. That's awesome. Okay. If

1:20:13

any creators, is it the same one or is it new? It's gonna be a new whale

1:20:15

lens. Sure. Wait. Because 30 whale

1:20:18

lens too. Yeah. Makes sense.

1:20:21

The creators are interested in

1:20:23

attending reach out to us via infoltx expo dot

1:20:28

com. Will be sending out invites to creators

1:20:30

that we've worked with in the past and those who we know are interested in attending. I think Paul

1:20:33

and Kyle are

1:20:36

already confirmed I bugged them during their charity stream.

1:20:38

I was like, hey, come up. 0III sent them a bunch of money to hit

1:20:42

their target. Oh, nice. I didn't make it a condition come to

1:20:44

LTX, but I sent it, and I was 30,

1:20:46

hey, you guys are come to LTX. Right?

1:20:49

30 would

1:20:51

have come anyway. They would have come 30. I was just

1:20:53

putting the money to try to coax them as

1:20:55

well, but it it

1:20:57

wasn't it wasn't that much. It it bumps, but, you

1:20:59

know, if any creators are interested in attending,

1:21:01

reach it oh, I already said

1:21:03

that bit. Anyone who has already reached out

1:21:05

will also get an update with more info

1:21:08

on what we can do to

1:21:10

help them get to the expo. Yeah. It's gonna be fun. I I'm sorry.

1:21:13

I'm going back

1:21:16

to this. Ex Xavier 30, I had

1:21:18

to use a new credit card. It wasn't signed. The store

1:21:20

wouldn't let me use

1:21:22

it because it wasn't signed.

1:21:24

I signed it

1:21:26

in front of them. Yeah. they accepted it.

1:21:32

Why are we jumping through utterly

1:21:34

meaningless hoops? Yeah. That's that's total damn thing. Dude.

1:21:37

30 is technically there is no rule that it

1:21:39

has to be signed for like a certain period of time

1:21:41

or you can't see them sign it. So you

1:21:44

could like to

1:21:46

use your credit card for something, not have a pen, buy a pen

1:21:48

from them with

1:21:49

cash, sign in, and then pay for something with

1:21:51

your credit card.

1:21:54

And 30 It seems legit. Ever since I was a I signatures are

1:21:56

like a crazy way to do any

1:21:58

form of authentication. Yeah. To be clear,

1:22:00

we mean with 30 pen. I

1:22:02

know there's other kinds of whatever.

1:22:05

But yeah, it's it's it's wild. The fact that we

1:22:07

still rely on that is crazy to me. Anytime I sign a document that's

1:22:11

actually super important, and

1:22:13

like my signature is a super important part of it. I'm just like, this

1:22:15

is stupid single time. 30

1:22:21

it is what it is. Yep. You just gotta

1:22:23

keep keep doing the security dance. Right? Yeah. It's it's all

1:22:25

working really well.

1:22:26

It's a really great theater. Really

1:22:28

good 30 a

1:22:31

great theater. Yeah. Anyways,

1:22:33

speaking of other things

1:22:36

that are really

1:22:37

great, AMD says that a hundred

1:22:39

and ten degrees Celsius on the 30 nine hundred

1:22:41

XTX is in

1:22:41

spec. We will get to that. We should do a couple of merch messages,

1:22:44

though. Oh, I could call.

1:22:46

And we'll do kind of like

1:22:49

We'll do a couple now and remind you guys that

1:22:51

if you wanna get any merch messages in, it's gonna be a pretty good time to get them in soon. It's

1:22:53

already pretty late. I was

1:22:55

I was late. Today.

1:22:57

And it's gonna be an even later night for me, so I don't want the show to drag on forever because I have to go film

1:22:59

one more video before

1:23:02

I leave the studio. We

1:23:06

yeah. We're we're not we're not accepting less than six videos in a week anymore. Does that

1:23:08

mean you stay at work until midnight on Fridays? If

1:23:10

it I guess it's that double short week.

1:23:12

30 it

1:23:15

comes to that, it comes to that. But, yeah, we've had a couple of short weeks. And what

1:23:17

we really need to do is 30 the

1:23:20

writing team is going to CES 30 half

1:23:22

is staying back here. So the goal

1:23:24

is that it's gonna be all CES content every

1:23:26

day during the show, and we are going to be trying to make a video a

1:23:29

day back here

1:23:32

as well. So that the editing

1:23:34

team can finally have a nice buffer and work in a non frantic

1:23:37

style. We've been

1:23:40

really struggling to keep up that

1:23:42

buffer lately. So a little bit more inside information here. I wanna hit us with a couple, Dan?

1:23:47

Sure. One here is from Tyler. Happy New Year.

1:23:50

Really excited for the new float plane look in twenty twenty three. Linus' thoughts on

1:23:54

adding float plane and LTT store to the video about testing 30

1:23:56

service. Oh, it's gonna be

1:23:58

a little late 30 I

1:24:00

don't wanna say too much

1:24:02

about that video. There's some That

1:24:05

video is well

1:24:07

underway. Also, we know. We know about the problems. We

1:24:12

have quadrupled. The

1:24:14

size of our customer support team

1:24:16

in the last three months. They are working their

1:24:18

way through tickets now, like, we are regularly down

1:24:21

30 we're coming

1:24:23

down. I think we're at about four

1:24:25

day response times, which is utterly

1:24:28

unacceptable, but that's

1:24:30

where we're at right now. It's

1:24:32

also worth noting that some of the reports you

1:24:34

see of how bad things are are not accurate. I

1:24:38

read a tweet today claiming that

1:24:40

they had tried to contact us multiple times and their

1:24:42

order never arrived in blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. They

1:24:44

had tried once and it was

1:24:47

thirteen minutes before they tweeted. So,

1:24:49

like, that's a bit of a yikes. Sometimes sometimes what you're

1:24:51

seeing is real. I'm not

1:24:54

gonna deny that. We've

1:24:56

had some problems. We've

1:24:58

been too slow. Sometimes, it's not our fault. You can't have

1:25:03

no spam filtering, You literally

1:25:05

can't. We, like, can't disable it completely, and sometimes people's messages do get caught by our

1:25:08

spam filter. 30 do

1:25:12

our best to write it as

1:25:15

as soon as we manage to

1:25:17

find it. And then other times

1:25:20

There's technically 30 it's like

1:25:22

garbage and you shouldn't do it. Oh. I thought you told me we couldn't do it. No. Oh. You don't wanna

1:25:24

go that way though. Oh. Okay. So

1:25:26

maybe that's what you told me. Maybe.

1:25:29

30. Well, fine.

1:25:31

There from him. So

1:25:32

I had I had him in Nick look into

1:25:34

it. And then some of them are just

1:25:37

people making things up. Like, legitimately 30

1:25:39

happens. And I'm not gonna call

1:25:41

out anyone specifically right now, but

1:25:43

sometimes people are just for whatever

1:25:45

reason, like, I I can't fathom people's agenda sometimes,

1:25:47

but sometimes people are just making it

1:25:49

up. I it's it is

1:25:52

not fair because the

1:25:54

volume of tickets aren't even comparable.

1:25:56

But focal length customer support has been killing it. Good job, Joe.

1:25:58

Also, Joe has been wearing multiple hats and trying to help

1:26:02

over it. Career roles. There's genuinely been a really big effort

1:26:05

to get that under control. Yeah.

1:26:07

Quadrupling a staff size is

1:26:10

like not a simple task. Onboarding all

1:26:12

those people takes 30, and that takes

1:26:14

time away from, like, the the

1:26:17

skilled eligible people that are already on staff from

1:26:19

doing the job of answering tickets, but you're trying to invest in the but people are mad like And the far that

1:26:21

you fall behind now, the more tickets

1:26:24

come in, and

1:26:27

the and the angrier people get, and then the angrier people get, you have more back

1:26:29

and forth, so it takes more time. And you have so

1:26:31

many tickets because you're getting

1:26:33

so many orders and because you have many 30, your warehouse

1:26:35

gets overloaded, and because they're

1:26:37

overloaded, you get more

1:26:39

tickets. It's a

1:26:41

big brutal

1:26:42

cycle, but It's

1:26:43

a first world problem. Yeah. It's a good -- The store is killing it. -- to

1:26:44

have as a business.

1:26:47

The store is absolutely crushing

1:26:50

it. Like, great job. I mean, you can see

1:26:52

there's almost no products on the site with less

1:26:54

than a four and a half star

1:26:58

review rating or average review rating. Like it's They're amazing.

1:27:00

It's an amazing team doing

1:27:02

amazing work, but there have

1:27:04

been some hiccups this 30.

1:27:07

And you know what? Of them were avoidable. I have

1:27:09

to take my share of the blame. Like, I should have I should have pushed

1:27:11

harder. I should have paid closer

1:27:14

attention. When we started to run into trouble, I I

1:27:16

should have laid out a path. Like, it's there's

1:27:19

things that I could have and

1:27:21

should have

1:27:22

done. But all we can do now

1:27:24

is do better. Try

1:27:25

to fix

1:27:25

it. So that's what we're that's what

1:27:27

we're doing. Okay. I

1:27:30

got another one here from Adrian. 30 line of some Luke recently had a UPS die at my house

1:27:32

and was wondering what kind of

1:27:34

UPS do you use for your critical

1:27:38

equipment and I don't use UPS anymore. I

1:27:41

prefer FedEx. I'm sorry

1:27:43

to hear that you had

1:27:45

to witness that at your house. I I wanna say

1:27:48

one one thing about the the last topic really quick as

1:27:50

well. Yeah. I don't know if we could do that super

1:27:52

legitimately. Without people saying that there's,

1:27:54

like, inside bias and stuff. If we tried to evaluate our own customer support,

1:27:56

even if we did it, people would call

1:27:58

us liars anyway. That's what I'm saying.

1:28:01

30 still I I I'm I'm

1:28:04

interested in you. I'd like to be nervous. I

1:28:06

can tell you now that the sponsor secret shopping

1:28:08

project isn't going to

1:28:11

be the last. So that's absolutely

1:28:13

something that we could

1:28:15

do. Wait. No, I

1:28:17

pitched it. Pitched what? Secret shopping LTT

1:28:20

store. Oh, okay. Yeah. No. I I totally blanked

1:28:22

on that. Yeah. I pitched 30 to James. I

1:28:24

actually don't know.

1:28:26

If they are secret shopping LTT store.

1:28:28

I know that the project has started. That was the

1:28:30

thing that I It's gonna get called out,

1:28:33

like Okay. I mean, But I mean, it

1:28:35

would be fair to call it. It's yeah. Yeah. I

1:28:37

don't I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm

1:28:39

just saying people are a hundred percent

1:28:41

gonna call it it.

1:28:43

All I can say is

1:28:45

The customer care team, however many

1:28:46

of them there are, has one directive.

1:28:51

Make it right. Yeah.

1:28:54

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. What

1:28:56

kind of UPS do you use for

1:28:58

your critical equipment at LNG? We

1:29:01

use one from Eton. Yeah. You have other

1:29:03

little ones too though. Right? Oh, awesome. The

1:29:06

giant UPS that's in the server room

1:29:09

-- Yes. -- is a huge crazy

1:29:11

epic monster from Eaton. Yeah. But then 30 have smaller

1:29:13

ones all Proper industrial grade

1:29:15

commercial UPS. Yep. And then the ones

1:29:18

yeah. The ones that we use for

1:29:20

just everyone's workstations because

1:29:22

it's just man, it's not worth it. Like, every UPS is like a hundred and fifty

1:29:24

dollars or whatever.

1:29:26

Like, they're not cheap. 30

1:29:30

if the power goes

1:29:31

out and

1:29:32

that thing that that person

1:29:35

was working on was

1:29:37

worth I

1:29:37

don't know,

1:29:38

something. You'll thank your you'll thank yourself for

1:29:39

having paid for UPS' so they could

1:29:42

save their work and shut down properly.

1:29:44

It's so

1:29:47

I can't cannot emphasize the importance enough.

1:29:49

So I believe hey, 30.

1:29:51

They're APC

1:29:52

units. Hey? I

1:29:53

believe so. Yeah. APC, twelve hundreds, fifteen hundreds. I don't

1:29:56

know. We buy them in bulk at Costco

1:29:58

a lot. Yeah. I I But And

1:30:00

if you buy them in the in

1:30:02

the Maranx, it's a UPS Costco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think most of the

1:30:04

cost is with the batteries anyway. So Yeah. If they

1:30:06

go bad, do we just take them

1:30:10

back to

1:30:10

Costco? I'm not gonna answer that. Actually,

1:30:12

I actually don't know. Oh,

1:30:14

okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. That's

1:30:18

a good idea. Next? Yeah. Okay.

1:30:20

What else we got? We got one from David.

1:30:22

Hey, Linuson, Luke. I 30 you both.

1:30:25

Quick question regarding cloud services. It seems that

1:30:27

when mentioning a cloud service provider, I've seldom heard

1:30:29

a zero as a reference point

1:30:32

in lieu of

1:30:34

AWS, Google, or even

1:30:36

Lenovo. Any 30? Or is that

1:30:38

just happenstance? Like, from us? Currently, I never talk about

1:30:39

Isir. I can tell you

1:30:42

that

1:30:43

much. I just I just don't really

1:30:45

think about them. Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:46

Like have you ever used his ear for anything? Yeah.

1:30:50

Oh, okay. Like what? It

1:30:52

was a long time ago

1:30:54

to be honest. I needed some VM thing that,

1:30:58

like, worked better through Azure for some that was,

1:31:00

like, pre this. Oh, 30. Like,

1:31:03

a long time ago. Since

1:31:07

then I haven't. But, like,

1:31:08

Flowplane doesn't really use a

1:31:10

lot of that stuff anyways.

1:31:13

Yeah. We kinda It's like

1:31:15

core design thing. Like, the the whole idea of airplane was to not

1:31:17

do that. So, like, we don't use a lot of

1:31:20

that stuff at work.

1:31:22

So I don't know. I don't

1:31:24

have we talked about Lenovo'd

1:31:25

much? I don't know if they're talking about -- From Lenovo'd -- sponsored us. Okay. So maybe we have.

1:31:28

So we've talked about them

1:31:30

for sure. Azure hasn't sponsored us.

1:31:32

So They might have at

1:31:34

one point, really? I think so, actually. Surprise Microsoft has sponsored much at all.

1:31:37

Oh, Microsoft has sponsored

1:31:39

stuff with us before. Trying

1:31:42

to think. Didn't they

1:31:44

What is it?

1:31:45

Or have they? This is the the

1:31:47

the best way that

1:31:51

I can avoid bias is that I

1:31:53

actually just don't know a lot

1:31:55

of the time. I don't

1:31:57

think it's been a

1:31:59

ton. I know I've talked to someone

1:32:02

from Microsoft and basically heard from them that they're not honestly

1:32:04

the biggest fan

1:32:07

of doing it. Like sponsoring direct influencers

1:32:09

too much. Yeah. Because I see them do it a hundred percent. Oh, yeah. Definitely. But I know

1:32:11

it's like if they really

1:32:14

wanted to turn it on,

1:32:17

they could like just crush. Because they have all this financial backing and they have

1:32:19

Xbox. So they have lots of people interacting with their things all the time

1:32:21

and they have windows. They have lots of people interacting with their

1:32:23

things all the time. Like,

1:32:27

it would they would be able to just, like, cover the Internet,

1:32:29

but they just they don't

1:32:31

for whatever reason.

1:32:34

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. It's a funny thing. So it's sponsors

1:32:36

or ads, Lias

1:32:39

doesn't see ads.

1:32:42

That's a good take. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. It's

1:32:45

it's kind of a funny it's kind

1:32:47

of a funny stance. Like, I it

1:32:49

doesn't really matter what company you are. Like,

1:32:51

even we engage in influencer marketing with other

1:32:54

influencers because it works.

1:32:56

Like, compared to

1:32:58

conventional conventional

1:32:59

marketing, it's just it's

1:33:01

kind of

1:33:03

you gotta imagine that it's like some CMO or like level executive

1:33:07

there that just is

1:33:09

like, yeah, TV -- Yep. -- you know, or something. Large event. Do you know

1:33:12

what TV? Microsoft

1:33:14

does a lot of,

1:33:16

like, big event

1:33:18

sponsorship type of stuff. I don't see them doing a ton of influencer things. Or if they do influencer

1:33:20

things, I see it more

1:33:22

as like an entire takeover. 30

1:33:26

know? Yeah. Like, we're gonna send this person

1:33:29

to this various country

1:33:31

and they're gonna specifically check out

1:33:33

our product. Blah 30 blah blah. It's

1:33:35

not a lot of, like, sponsor sponsored

1:33:37

things. Yeah. It just seems kind of silly to take

1:33:39

an entire, like, branch of marketing and just be

1:33:41

like, yeah, we don't

1:33:44

like that. Don't like what. Like, I don't

1:33:46

really get what you mean by that. I agree. I mean, there's no 30. I mean, there are some risks.

1:33:48

There are risks associated. You

1:33:50

have to actually do due diligence

1:33:53

on the people that you're sponsoring and make

1:33:55

sure that your brand

1:33:59

through the mud. Yep. I mean,

1:34:01

that's something. Alright. Why don't we why

1:34:04

don't we do some more topics 30?

1:34:06

If you wanna get your merch messages

1:34:08

in, We

1:34:10

just launched new colors of our plaid

1:34:12

flannels. We just launched our new

1:34:14

super comfy pajama pants. So those

1:34:16

are great things to check

1:34:18

out. Also, you know, don't forget, backpack. Our

1:34:20

shipping now. So there's no backlog for

1:34:22

backpacks. Just trying to

1:34:23

think if there's anything

1:34:25

else to kinda update you guys

1:34:27

on. No. Sounds good.

1:34:30

Oh, yeah. Topic. You're

1:34:32

gonna talk about AMD thinking 30 a hundred and

1:34:34

ten degrees? Yes. 30. Pretty chill on the seventy

1:34:36

nine hundred 30 User reports

1:34:38

of AMD's recently released Radeon RX seven thousand nine hundred GPU 30 hitting

1:34:44

hotspot temperature of a hundred and ten

1:34:47

degrees Celsius and throttling have been met with the, you

1:34:49

know, dismissal from team

1:34:51

red, at least until

1:34:54

it went viral. That's how things tend to go. The first user that we bring

1:34:56

this up attempted to

1:34:58

get an RMA from AMD

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first posted their problems eleven days ago. But on the

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twenty sixth, AMD claimed that a hundred

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and ten degrees was in

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spec for RD and

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a three GPUs. And the made by AMD

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cards such as the one we reviewed can safely operate at

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that temperature, a temperature high

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enough to boil water and

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and probably 30 things on. More

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specifically, they said it is the normal junction 30. In

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the 30 guide given depressed, AMD had

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a special note on GPU temperature, specifically mentioning that the card aggressively

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boosts until reaching the junction temperature on any of its sensors,

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but that the product will operate below

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this temperature under

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normal workloads. Anthony notes that this is normal for AMD

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cards and would be unremarkable. We did