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What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN show!

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We got a great show lined up for you

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guys today. AI powered race

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cars. Turns out they kinda

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suck so far. Big surprise!

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Also the supercomputer auction has

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completed and... Spoiler,

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no. No I didn't

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buy it and I will explain all of

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the reasons why as much as I would

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have loved to, that didn't make any sense

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guys. It made absolutely no sense. What else we

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got today? Uh...

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Really? Yet all this time. I don't know. Yet

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all this time we made an emergency bathroom break.

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Rockin a lie. I definitely focused on talking to

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chat instead and all of this is... Google

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Play celebrates Sonic and got every

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single fact about Sonic wrong. Why

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you gotta focus on the negative? Cuz it's just

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funny. Why don't you go with something positive? Do we

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have anything positive in the dock? I

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mean, Walmart is collabing with Roblox.

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That's not positive. There's

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no way that's positive. Uh... Shrimp

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Jesus. But... Hahaha.

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Alright, the title

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for that topic is... Meta says no more

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to spam. Unless it's AI

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spam. Nice. And the

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next pictures of Jesus made out of

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shrimp. Alright, fair enough. Hahaha.

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The show is brought to you

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Why don't we jump right into

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our headline topic, which is

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of course the supercomputer auction.

1:48

Good lord, if I had a

1:50

dollar for every single person who sent this bloody

1:52

thing to me this week. You

1:54

could've bought it. I could've bought

1:56

it. The Cheyenne supercomputer has sold

1:59

apparently. for 480,000 80 480,000 85 US

2:01

dollars this is for sale by yes.gov the US government

2:10

at one point I believe it was in

2:12

the top ooh I can't remember

2:14

exactly but it was in the

2:17

I think it was in like the

2:19

top 20 or top 10 supercomputers in

2:21

the world or something like that it's

2:23

about seven years old though now and

2:25

if you guys read a little bit

2:27

more into the details about it you'll

2:29

probably figure out why in spite of the

2:31

fact that it was looking like it might go

2:34

for as little as about eight thousand

2:36

US dollars earlier in the week

2:39

I had no interest whatsoever in bidding on

2:41

this thing see I swear if it went

2:43

at eight grand and you didn't buy it

2:45

that would have been a mistake that

2:48

would have been that would have

2:50

been maybe a mistake I

2:52

would have definitely been that would have been

2:54

maybe a mistake okay we need only go

2:56

as far as here here let's play a

2:58

game let's play a game called how far

3:01

into this page do I need to read

3:03

to know what a bad idea it is

3:05

to buy this thing Cheyenne

3:07

supercomputer looks good so

3:10

far item name can confirm it's good

3:12

when these things match that is yeah

3:14

the sale lot number I mean that

3:16

looks like a pretty lucky number to

3:18

Cheyenne Wyoming dude

3:20

it's 28 racks 28 racks all liquid

3:22

cooling that's the e-rack the

3:30

e-cells there are 14 units weighing 1,500 pounds

3:32

each and I have to get this stuff

3:37

from butt-f*** Wyoming up

3:39

to our warehouse where here let's keep

3:41

reading I will have to

3:43

find a place to store yes 28 rack

3:47

units containing a total of 145,000

3:51

CPU cores that draw and and this

3:54

is this is a direct quote this

3:56

is a direct quote here 1.7 million Watson

4:00

watts under load. Sir,

4:03

are you aware that

4:05

with all of our buildings combined, we do

4:08

not have enough power to actually run this

4:10

thing. We still could have bought it. If

4:12

it was A-grand, you still should have bought

4:15

it. We could have salvaged it, but there

4:17

are more issues. Hold on, because we can

4:19

keep reading. Let's keep reading.

4:22

Moving the system necessitates the engagement

4:24

of a professional moving company. In

4:26

fact, I don't believe that the

4:28

buyer is even allowed on the

4:30

premises. That's something. It

4:33

has to be a professional data

4:35

center. It's a highly secure area.

4:38

There's that. And then, no, it gets

4:40

even better. It gets even better. Aside

4:42

from these being outdated AF, like

4:45

we're talking Haswell grade CPUs

4:47

here with DDR4-2400. This

4:51

thing is flipping slow. They

4:53

took a team of, I believe

4:56

it was a little less than

4:58

20 dedicated engineers to run

5:00

maintenance on this thing. And I'm

5:02

not saying you should have ran it. And

5:04

they've been having issues with that maintenance to

5:07

the point where they're saying, hmm, it's kind

5:09

of costing more to run this thing than

5:11

it's worth because their liquid cooling has apparently

5:14

been leaking all over the place. This

5:18

thing is a cluster. And

5:21

it seemed like there were some

5:24

people out there who were serious

5:26

about buying a supercomputer and like

5:29

running it. Oh, yeah, no. And

5:31

I'm looking at this thing going, no. Brother,

5:35

if you know anything about

5:38

operating a supercomputer, you know

5:40

that nobody is buying this

5:42

thing to run it. $480,000

5:44

is honestly a scrap price. Yeah,

5:47

100%. You are ripping

5:49

cabling out of it. You are ripping

5:51

CPUs and memory modules. That is going

5:53

straight to eBay. You're not

5:56

operating this thing because anyone who

5:58

has the kind of money... to

6:00

pay the $60,000 US

6:03

dollars a month that is estimated

6:06

just to put electricity in this thing's

6:08

digital veins and find a place that

6:10

you can even get that electricity. Don't

6:12

forget the cooling. If you have that

6:15

kind of money, you can afford new

6:17

f***ing hardware. You are not buying

6:19

somebody's like, ratted out civic of

6:21

a supercomputer and trying to lease

6:23

out space on it. That's not

6:25

how this works. Like six years

6:27

ago, you made a video on

6:29

the SFU supercomputer. I did. And

6:31

that got 2.5 million views and

6:33

it was six years ago. Okay,

6:35

2.5 million views. Just

6:39

for context, ladies and gentlemen.

6:41

In the tech vertical, is

6:43

worth about five grand.

6:45

So... Okay, but

6:47

you know that's not how the math works.

6:49

No, the math is a little more favorable

6:51

than that. But if I spent more than

6:54

probably 50 to

6:56

100 grand on this thing, I

7:00

better be profiting on the

7:02

tear down of it. Because otherwise I'm underwater.

7:04

Which gets... I'm underwater. I agree at that range.

7:07

Even if I make a number of videos,

7:09

guys. That's not one video. Yeah, you've got to

7:11

be getting like three to five videos. I'm

7:13

doing a series. Yeah. It's a

7:15

pickup vlog. We're driving

7:17

to Wyoming, boys! That

7:20

Mr. Beast intro where the camera whips out

7:22

and you've got this huge semi behind you.

7:24

I'm in an abandoned supercomputer! Meanwhile,

7:27

it's like six minutes from the nearest

7:29

microcenter. But

7:33

yeah, the other problem is if you're parting it out,

7:35

you'd have to part it out like in the States.

7:38

Oh yeah. Yeah, what I'm

7:40

gonna like... Just bring it over to the border. Import this

7:42

mess? Yeah. You gotta be kidding

7:45

me. There's no way. There's no way. It

7:48

was a fun thing to dream about. Yeah. It's

7:51

one of those things where it's like, oh man,

7:53

wouldn't it be cool to open

7:55

a gaming hotel or start a,

7:57

you know, a parade? A

8:00

gaming peripheral business or you know like oh I

8:02

had a I had a cool idea at a

8:04

fever dream And I woke up in the middle

8:06

of the night and went oh wait

8:08

a half a million dollars for what is

8:10

essentially a gigantic Pile yeah,

8:12

no e ways. No way. No

8:15

it doesn't make it doesn't make any sense,

8:17

but but you know what I definitely Oh,

8:22

I didn't think of that what I had

8:24

a social inflow plane chat you

8:27

could write it off Free

8:31

content I could I could have written

8:33

it off and gone like five videos I've

8:39

made a terrible mistake you ought to think harder man There's

8:44

like almost no chance, but if the person who bought

8:46

it reached out would you like? Do

8:49

any content on it? I mean yeah, I'd be

8:51

super down. Yeah. Yeah, of course all right people

8:54

Let's figure who the heck bought this

8:56

realistically probably has some yeah, yeah There's

8:58

there's no this is this is basically

9:00

one of those like e Computer

9:05

shop dot Whatever like eBay stores,

9:07

and they're they're they're ripping it

9:09

apart There's there's no way that

9:11

anybody is actually going to try

9:13

to operate this thing it is

9:15

woefully out of date They're high

9:17

RAM units have 256 gigs.

9:19

I mean there are gaming PCs out

9:21

there albeit Not many, but there are

9:23

gaming PCs out there that have 256

9:26

gigs of RAM in them these days like this

9:28

is not this is not aged well and Especially

9:32

it has not aged well with the

9:34

way that the workloads for these supercomputers have

9:36

evolved in the last seven years There

9:38

is a reason this is being decommissioned this

9:41

thing is a CPU Supercomputer

9:43

which Ladies and gentlemen

9:46

is not how they build them right

9:48

now it as far as I could

9:50

tell didn't really have any GPU compute

9:52

units in it It's

9:54

also not designed with systems even that SFU

9:56

supercomputer that I checked out six years ago

9:59

had systems that had a

10:01

terabyte or two terabytes or something of

10:03

memory in them. They were either four-way

10:05

or eight-way CPU systems so that they

10:07

could have these gigantic pools of memory

10:09

so that they could work on extremely

10:11

large datasets. As far as I can

10:14

tell, Cheyenne didn't have any such nodes

10:16

and didn't have any such capabilities. So

10:18

as datasets have grown and as the

10:20

need for GPU compute for

10:23

these supercomputing systems has grown,

10:25

it has become not

10:27

just out of date

10:30

in terms of how long it's

10:32

been since the hardware

10:34

was released, but it has become outdated

10:36

in terms of the overall design philosophy

10:39

of the system, in terms of the

10:41

architecture of the system. It

10:43

just didn't make any sense. That

10:46

could be kind of a fun video. It was a lot of fun.

10:48

Oh, it apparently does have 184 GPUs. Draft

10:51

says 73 RTX 4090s outperformed this machine.

10:54

It could be kind of a fun

10:56

video to try to build, set

10:59

up a ... We built the Cheyenne supercomputer.

11:01

That's actually a really good idea and if

11:03

I'd thought of it, we probably would have gotten

11:05

started on that this week. I do wonder

11:07

if we've missed the moment a little bit

11:09

at this point. Like if we

11:11

had thrown ... Now that the auction's actually over. Yeah, if

11:14

we'd thrown together a cluster of

11:16

random motherboards and just loaded

11:18

up as many GPUs as we could

11:20

have and friggin' like Ethernet cabled them

11:23

together and been like, okay, I

11:25

bought a supercomputer, but it isn't what you think.

11:27

It isn't that one. That would be pretty

11:29

funny. But yeah, it probably missed the mark

11:31

a little bit. Yep.

11:35

1,680 petaflops. I mean, yeah,

11:37

what's a 7950X petaflops? Oh

11:45

my goodness. What is my browser doing?

11:47

Do I look old enough that I need that? Yeah,

11:50

it doesn't say. I guess that would

11:52

be teraflops. Here,

11:55

let's try teraflops. I don't know how many

11:57

flops it has. How

11:59

many flops? You got boys turns out nobody cares about

12:01

the flops of CPUs anymore. All right, well, whatever. I'm

12:04

over it. Okay Why don't we move on to our

12:06

next topic? What do you want to talk about? Mostly

12:10

mostly your topics, but sure let's see what

12:12

let's do the you have you have Tarkov

12:15

update in here What's up with that? Oh,

12:17

I was just wondering what happened I haven't

12:19

paying attention to it what I realized was

12:21

that we talk about really bad news in

12:24

the community sometimes and We

12:26

don't really come back and revisit it the following

12:28

week to see if like maybe something went better

12:30

like back when we were talking about the problems I was

12:32

having with my with my light switches

12:35

and And we

12:37

did ultimately do an update where we're like, oh, yeah

12:39

The company has actually done the right thing and released

12:41

the firmware and jasco That's that's who they are and

12:43

I realized we don't always come back and

12:46

say hey They did a really positive thing

12:48

and everything's going good now, which from the

12:50

look on your face I'm thinking probably isn't

12:52

what we're about to discuss So what's battle

12:54

state games been up to the yeah, no

12:57

need this time? they

12:59

they There's

13:01

been multiple attempts at

13:03

addressing the issue There's

13:06

a bunch of things there's certain things that we

13:08

didn't get to address last time like them editing

13:10

their website Did we talk about that? No, so

13:12

they they edited their website to take certain wording

13:14

away from different versions that they had had in

13:17

the past which would have made what they're currently

13:19

doing like not okay So what I would like

13:21

to know is are they aware of archive org?

13:24

Yeah, like apparently not because they know that

13:26

that exists that that's definitely a thing that

13:28

exists They were asked in an interview. I'm

13:30

just curious after they did it have they heard of that

13:33

They're asked an interview after they did it if they

13:35

had done it and they said no So I actually

13:38

think maybe no Wow Realize

13:40

that people can prove that they did it

13:43

which is uh, that's pretty funny. I mean

13:45

pretty great Aren't they are

13:47

they Russia based? Oh It's

13:50

one of those Yeah, complicated the company

13:53

is technically incorporated as far as my

13:55

understanding goes in the UK, right? But

13:59

where what you know what? Where the Russian company

14:01

it's a Russian company. Okay. Okay. Well, I

14:03

mean in fairness to them then in Russia

14:05

You can just disappear things And

14:09

they say disappeared Yeah,

14:12

unfortunately, it's the interwebs So

14:15

that didn't work out so great There's been

14:17

multiple updates and I don't know if

14:19

all of them are super findable anymore

14:22

But essentially we've progressively gotten to

14:25

where we are now And

14:28

where are we now? This

14:30

is a new update that I haven't even seen have they done a

14:32

complete 180 and agreed to give everyone

14:34

who bought the hundred and fifty dollar edition the

14:39

$250 unheard edition like like is are they actually

14:41

doing what they said they would do in the

14:43

first place? So Sort of

14:45

except is anyone in the meantime. They kind

14:47

of made it worse. Oh Brilliant.

14:51

So so anyone who whistle whistle blue

14:53

from inside battle state games got disappeared

14:55

like like as if they were talking

14:57

about airplanes Yeah, I love that you

14:59

use the term whistle blow because they

15:01

added a weird new device into the

15:03

game They're

15:05

calling the legacy device now. Remember

15:07

this is supposed to be a

15:10

Tarkov the legacy device. Yeah, I don't know why

15:12

it's called that but like it's like it's an

15:15

item an in-game item If you carry it or

15:17

it's a gun or like what is it some

15:19

form of in-game? They just say unique item

15:21

with call-in mechanics and I'll explain the call-in

15:23

mechanics in a second I just

15:26

say for a moment that the moment

15:28

call of duty died for me was

15:30

the second that you could just order

15:32

airstrikes Oh, yeah and take out

15:34

your but what was that cod for or modern warfare?

15:37

The original modern warfare or original modern

15:39

warfare. I played it for like two

15:41

weeks and I was like this stupid

15:44

I'm sorry. You don't even have to point your

15:46

gun at the other guy yet. I mean as

15:49

gamers as gamers We reached the point where

15:52

we even like being slack-shawed old

15:54

Warcraft me in our desk like

15:56

this Moving the mouse to

15:58

click the head of the other guy is

16:00

too much work. That's Unheard Edition Tarkov

16:02

players. Alright fine. Okay so you got

16:05

this item. Okay so yeah before we

16:07

get to that just in case you

16:09

don't know about Tarkov so much it's

16:11

an extremely hardcore game. Yeah. It's supposed

16:13

to have you know a

16:15

touch of realism. It's still a video game so it's supposed

16:17

to be fun but there's supposed to be a touch of

16:19

realism. Yeah but like you reload you can't just like shoot

16:22

two rounds and then

16:24

like throw in a new magazine and

16:26

like magically the rounds teleported from the

16:28

new one to the old one. You

16:30

like took out a magazine that now has 28

16:32

rounds in it and you

16:34

put in one with 30 like you and

16:36

that one still has 28 in it. Even if

16:39

you have loose rounds in your pockets. Yeah. Yeah

16:41

it's a very very hardcore game and

16:43

if you die in that game you

16:45

lose nearly everything on you. There's a

16:48

couple small slots that you can retain

16:50

but almost everything that was on you

16:53

is now permanently gone. Except

16:57

as we talked about last week the

16:59

unheard edition this new $250 edition you

17:01

can call in like teammate reinforcements with

17:04

one of their abilities. So like you can

17:06

be in a raid say I was playing

17:09

and then you jumped in discord I could be like oh hey and then

17:11

I could call you into the raid that I'm currently playing. Shut up.

17:14

The biggest problem with that by

17:16

an enormous amount is

17:18

that cheaters they'll

17:20

often sell their services because

17:23

there's been a decent amount of stuff that's

17:25

been put in place. So you can have

17:27

cheaters Sherpas. Yeah. So the

17:30

cheaters can clear the whole lobby and

17:32

then you just go pick up the pieces. And

17:34

you just yeah and

17:36

that's definitely how it's gonna

17:38

be used. And they'll sell

17:40

a lot of unheard editions to cheaters

17:43

that they'll then ban later and then

17:45

we'll buy more unheard editions that'll totally

17:47

happen. Because now there's a commercial incentive

17:50

to own unheard edition. Yeah. Because you

17:52

can sell people loot more easily and

17:54

faster and kind of on their

17:56

demand and if they're looking for a particular item

17:58

that's really rare. you could

18:00

have like a list of clients that want different

18:02

things go into raids clear them check the loot

18:05

and Then call in the

18:07

people that need the particular items like

18:09

it's it's really bad and a disgustingly

18:11

terrible idea Now that was already

18:13

we already knew about that. That was already a

18:15

thing. Yeah now They're like trying to say sorry,

18:17

so they're like okay edge of darkness owner So

18:19

this is the the people that bought this really

18:21

expensive copy $150 copy of the game Most

18:25

people bought this because it said you get all

18:27

future DLC for free Yes, so it was like

18:29

I'm buying into this game. I have this is

18:31

my like effectively like finally It's like buying a

18:33

plex lifetime path. Yeah, they're like yeah Yeah,

18:36

sure it's more expensive than it like probably should be but

18:38

you get all this stuff later sure, but it's not priced

18:41

Ridiculously compared to other lifetime licenses

18:43

for as a service products. Yeah,

18:45

so I can I

18:47

can at least Kind of see where

18:49

people are coming from with this one. Yeah now

18:52

they released this new version You don't get everything

18:54

so they're frustrated So they said okay, we're gonna

18:56

give you know the co-op PvE mode to edge

18:59

of darkness people. That was a big issue They're

19:01

like we're gonna do it in waves whatever but

19:03

it is coming to you guys and a lot

19:05

of the other things that they Announced the unheard

19:07

edition not everything but a lot of it They're

19:10

like okay We're gonna give it to edge of

19:12

darkness people and then they have this random line

19:14

that says unique item with Colin mechanics legacy device

19:16

ability to call in a friendly BTR once

19:19

called the item will go on cooldown a

19:21

BTR is If

19:25

you don't immediately know what that is, I'm sorry, I

19:27

don't know what a BTR is it's one of these

19:30

Are you kidding me? So

19:34

basically they're turning Tarkov into What

19:39

I can't even yeah into like cod You

19:44

want to be imagine you're in a fight with someone

19:47

yeah And you're like they have some pretty hardcover you have

19:49

some pretty hardcover But you're you're trying to go at each

19:51

other And then you just hear this like legacy device pop

19:53

off and you're like well I guess

19:56

a armored vehicle is going to come

19:58

and wipe me out this

20:00

game which and like other

20:02

people have pointed out not only is

20:04

this a ridiculously egregious pay-to-win mechanic like

20:07

obviously because the lower more basic tiers

20:09

of the game don't get this but

20:12

it also makes

20:14

no sense for the lore of the game

20:17

at all. Yeah. Because you're supposed to be

20:19

like completely cut off from command and all

20:21

the stuff and now you're

20:23

calling in like an armored

20:25

vehicle and for whatever

20:27

reason it gets loaded onto like a

20:29

space-ex rocket and arrives

20:32

immediately. Yeah. I

20:34

just the whole thing is like what

20:37

a clown show I don't know it's it's it

20:42

doesn't seem like it would have been that hard to fix this but

20:46

now they've screwed up fixing it so

20:48

many times that now I think it's

20:50

gonna be very difficult

20:52

to try to fix this. Because

20:54

now they've promised this stupid truck

20:57

and so anyone they promised it to now wants

21:00

it because let's face it

21:02

pay-to-win pay-to-win game mechanics work

21:05

because losers no

21:08

offense losers buy

21:11

them so that they can not

21:13

have to get good or whatever and look

21:15

like look I'm not the kind of person

21:17

that's gonna sit and be all sweaty at

21:19

a game and be

21:21

like get good pay-to-win

21:24

if a game is just really hard

21:26

and the community is like super into

21:28

it and intense I'm

21:31

also not gonna pay to be competitive like oh

21:33

my bullets do two times as much damage or

21:35

whatever like no I understand

21:37

that at some point I'm gonna kind of

21:39

age out of being able to play whatever

21:42

the the hippest eSports game is and I'm

21:44

just not gonna be competitive at it and

21:46

no you don't have to give me like

21:48

a like oh I heard you spend eight

21:50

hours out of your day working instead of

21:52

just playing video games here how about we

21:54

just take half of what you made today

21:56

so that you can feel like a big

21:58

shot against the kid like what what What

22:00

even is this? What twisted mindset

22:02

is making people buy these mechanics?

22:06

It's demented to

22:08

me. I mean, the real solution, the

22:10

proper solution is better matchmaking. Obviously,

22:14

just have the casual dads, often

22:16

they're like crappy server where they can just

22:19

spray and pray all over the place and

22:21

then put all the skilled players in the

22:23

same lobby. It's very doable

22:26

and some games do it very well. But

22:29

I guess it's more work and it's less

22:31

lucrative and people will give you money for

22:33

these kinds of silly upgrades.

22:35

So I guess that's why it keeps perpetuating.

22:38

And again, it comes back to what we

22:40

said last week. Guys, don't

22:42

give the money for it. Like,

22:45

man, grow

22:47

a backbone, good lord gamers,

22:49

but those people who buy into

22:51

those mechanics now that Battle State has

22:53

promised it, well, they're back to a

22:55

wall. Now their games just ruined. Yeah.

22:58

Because unless they give it to

23:00

everyone, then it's not fair.

23:02

And once they do give it to everyone, it's modern

23:04

warfare. Then the game's ridiculous. Yeah. Oh, well, well, now

23:07

we need an escalation point. I paid $250 for my

23:09

edition of the game and

23:13

now you gave this stupid truck to everybody.

23:15

Well, now I need a satellite death laser

23:17

because otherwise what's the point of me paying

23:19

$250? Did someone find it? What now? Oh,

23:22

no, I think they,

23:25

yeah, they Rick rolled me. Rawr, I got

23:27

rekt. No. Nice. Okay. So there's some interview

23:29

with him with Nikita, the, like, I think

23:31

he's the COO, but he's the main person

23:34

that talks publicly. There's

23:36

some interview with him from a long time ago.

23:38

I can't find it right now. I swear I'm

23:40

not hallucinating this, but, um, he's

23:43

talking about how, uh, cheaters, he

23:49

had like a

23:51

realization that cheaters are actually a good thing

23:53

for your game because when

23:55

your player base is like

23:59

stressed out. and uncomfortable

24:01

with the cheater situation, it increases

24:03

what he calls donations. And

24:07

I'm like, wow, you know what? Donations? This kind

24:10

of makes a lot of sense. What's a donation?

24:12

I think that's when he used

24:14

to make mobile games. I

24:16

think he was talking about like, pay to

24:18

win mechanics, they're gonna buy them more if there's cheaters

24:20

in the game. Oh my god.

24:23

I'm not 100% certain, I'm trying to find the

24:25

interview, but I can't find it right now. I

24:27

know it was on the subreddit before, but

24:30

I'm having a hard time trying to find it. That

24:32

is, that actually hurts my brain. You

24:34

have successfully hurt my brain. This whole thing is like

24:36

that. Look, it's Friday and you hurt my brain. It's

24:39

a good time you can recover before the week starts.

24:41

Why would you do that to me? What

24:44

did I do to you? I

24:46

hate that so much. So, hold

24:49

on, hold on, tinfoil hat. Tinfoil

24:52

hat coming on right now. Cheating

24:54

exists in video games to

24:57

sell microtransactions. I have

24:59

to say one, I need to actually find this video,

25:01

and two, it's a translation from Russian. So

25:04

the translation could be wrong. So

25:06

like, I don't know 100%. Oh,

25:08

did people just find it? I think they did. Am I getting

25:10

rick-rolled again? This is not what I'm

25:12

talking about, not the text interview. So

25:14

there's a video. Anyways, we don't have

25:17

to try to hunt it down.

25:19

But there's some very active communities forming

25:21

right now. This

25:23

is cool though, actually. I don't know how

25:25

much we wanna go

25:28

into it. I don't know, a lot. Okay. Right,

25:31

I mean, there's very downsides. I'm wondering

25:33

if they can issue like takedowns for it or anything, even

25:35

talking about it. I'm talking about like these guys, what

25:38

issue takedown for the WAN show? Battle

25:40

State wants to take down the WAN show, you know what, that's

25:42

fine. I'll go toe to toe. I

25:44

got no problem with that. All right. What are

25:47

they gonna do? What kind of, what kind of

25:49

authority? I don't know, I just don't know how

25:51

it works. Under what authority would some stupid fucking

25:53

Russian entity take down our podcast? Like

25:55

you gotta be kidding me. In order for, yes, this is the

25:57

interview. Okay, okay, okay, we found it, hold on. This

26:01

interview, there we go. So

26:04

the post is, in order for players to donate, you need to

26:06

keep them in a state of discomfort. This

26:09

is a very old, you could even, Moscow 2015. So

26:12

2015 is, if I remember correctly,

26:14

technically when Tarkov started.

26:18

But this is as their, so they're pivoting off

26:20

of like the mobile game, they used

26:22

to make some game called Contract Wars, which is either

26:24

like a mobile game or a browser game or something,

26:26

I don't know what. And then they pivoted into Escape

26:28

from Tarkov. And this is like as that pivot is

26:30

kind of happening. He talks about,

26:33

yeah, cheaters are always such a serious thing. Yeah.

26:36

Come on, get to your revelation. Both

26:42

ways. Okay, I'll say it.

26:45

Good Lord. For me, it was honestly a

26:47

revelation. How you perceive it is, of course,

26:49

your business. If there

26:51

are a lot of cheaters. So

26:56

what, people just assume. Cheaters

26:59

make other players uncomfortable. So

27:01

they just assume their advantage is that they

27:03

had. The main rule is to donate. You

27:05

need to keep the player in a state

27:07

of discomfort. The main rule is to donate.

27:12

So like his point is, if your players are

27:15

uncomfortable, they're gonna try to like, Get an edge.

27:17

Hey, to get advantages to get an edge, stuff

27:19

like that. Oh my God. Not

27:22

great. Again, I don't know the full context of

27:24

that interview. The translation might be wrong. There's a

27:26

lot of things that could be potentially wrong with

27:28

that. I wouldn't take that as like

27:31

a 100% thing. Be careful there.

27:33

Yeah. Yeah, don't fall for misinformation. So when

27:35

a full plane chat is saying the translation is accurate, but

27:37

like we, I don't know. We

27:40

generally trust float plane pretty good. It's probably. Yeah, float

27:42

plane chats are usually pretty reliable. I mean, I wouldn't

27:44

trust Twitch chat as far as I could throw them.

27:47

And they're literally digital. They have no weight

27:49

whatsoever. I could throw them very far. Yeah,

27:52

I could throw them very far. That is unless we

27:54

have to account for wind resistance. But I'm going to

27:56

assume this is a grade 11 physics final. I

28:00

don't have to. I

28:03

assume the cow is spherical. But

28:10

yeah, rigid body cow. There

28:13

are multiplayer, host it

28:15

yourself, play with your

28:17

friends, things happening very,

28:19

very actively right now for

28:21

Tarkov. I have

28:23

seldom seen this much dedication

28:26

and action on a project. It's

28:30

moving very, very fast. There's

28:32

some videos on YouTube of people playing

28:35

it. I'll have no theory, like gamers

28:37

scorned. Oh yeah. Truly. And

28:39

a bunch of extremely hardcore gamers scorned as well.

28:42

Yeah. Because the dedication to this is

28:44

mad. I mean, obviously, if they're going to

28:46

sell $150... Okay, so the

28:48

fact that the community is so

28:50

outraged and so universally outraged, over

28:53

$150 version of the game means that... Let's

28:57

do the math. A significant number

28:59

of them bought it. Because

29:02

if nobody bought it, people have been like, yeah,

29:04

whatever, that silly $150 version of

29:06

the game that nobody bought, who cares? But

29:09

no. This is

29:11

a game that people are invested

29:13

in. Yeah. And that's dangerous.

29:15

And I don't even think, honestly... For

29:18

Battlestate, I don't care. If that Edge of Darkness edition

29:20

thing was originally $250, I bet you a ton of

29:22

people... Yeah,

29:25

people would have been upset, but they would have bought it. They

29:27

would have bought it. I do think the truck would have been

29:29

a line. Yes. I think the truck still

29:32

would have been a line. The truck is a big line.

29:34

The call in people to raid thing is a big line.

29:36

That's ridiculous. And then going back on your word is a

29:38

big line. Those three things is

29:40

what has crushed this community. But the

29:42

community defies. The community

29:44

is not crushed. The community made their

29:46

own Tarkov, basically, by having a bunch

29:49

of single... So single-player Tarkov SPT has

29:51

been a thing for a long time.

29:54

Yeah. But it was single,

29:56

single-player. There's a bunch of mods

29:58

for it, though, that you can make the game. So

30:00

much better than the multiplayer experience, right?

30:03

But it was just a single player

30:05

experience now There's Fika a multiplayer mod

30:08

and I've seen some videos I have genuinely not

30:10

touched this but I've seen some videos of people

30:12

playing and it looks smooth and there isn't a

30:15

lot of like you know De-sync

30:17

between the players that it looks like at

30:19

least as good as live as far as

30:21

I can tell watching other people's gameplay of

30:24

the you know the synchronization of the two players

30:26

or multiple other players playing in the game and

30:29

then Some of

30:31

the mods for single-player Tarkov work

30:34

with the multiplayer mod So

30:37

you can just make your own Tarkov that's

30:39

better Hmm in all

30:41

the ways except for blackjack there isn't

30:43

a TV PvP But

30:45

the active PvP in Tarkov is so over riddled

30:47

by cheaters that it's like kind of a non-factor

30:50

I mean you just cut that

30:52

cut that limb off, you know, it's probably fine So

30:56

that's that's that's pretty cool in other

30:58

gaming news. Yeah, we do have another

31:00

actually very big topic Yeah, I won

31:02

bro versus bro. Okay, we can go

31:04

there. That's a big top. No, sure

31:06

we can't I'm down Or

31:09

we can talk about how the divers now

31:11

will not have a view bomb now, right?

31:13

Yeah, I have not kept up with this

31:16

at all other than that chat will not

31:18

stop talking about hell divers Not gonna lie.

31:20

That's the main reason why I know about

31:22

it. I winded this even happen. It must

31:24

have happened like Yeah, all

31:27

the articles are from today. So this is

31:29

like very very new pirate

31:31

software is apparently popping off about it Yeah,

31:35

not good from from my understanding It has

31:37

shown as a requirement on their steam page

31:39

the whole time that you need a PSN

31:42

But it wasn't enforced the whole time.

31:44

Oh, so do you to play on

31:46

PC? You need a PlayStation Network

31:49

account now I

31:51

mean it wasn't required before though. I

31:54

see so people have played this

31:56

whole time and Here's

31:58

the spicy part Because at first I

32:01

was like, that's really annoying, but I didn't

32:03

fully, fully understand it.

32:05

And then Pirate Software's tweet made

32:07

me fully understand it. There

32:09

are certain countries... So...

32:12

Oh, where PSN's just straight up not

32:14

available? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, Pirate

32:16

Software says for all those... Here, I'll

32:18

go to my... For

32:20

all of those saying to just make a PSN

32:22

account, bro, if you've been playing Helldivers 2 and

32:25

do not live in one of these listed countries,

32:27

you cannot make a PSN account. Choosing a country

32:29

you do not live in is a violation of

32:31

Sony's TOS and could lead to account termination. Then

32:33

again, what is

32:36

the drawback of that account being terminated? Does

32:38

it matter? Well, you can't play. Right,

32:41

but then couldn't you just register on a different

32:43

PSN account? You tied your

32:46

Steam account. So

32:49

you're effectively banned from the game. Yeah, that's

32:51

bad. Yeah. That was super bad. So

32:53

there's gonna be a bunch of people that

32:56

this happens to. So this is just

32:58

objectively not a good thing at that point. Because

33:00

there's people that were playing, no problem, just fine.

33:02

Probably loving the game because it's a great game.

33:05

They roll the patch. They roll the patch. And

33:07

now they can't. Yeah. And

33:09

you shouldn't just like suddenly require

33:11

a new account sign up once the game's

33:13

been out for like months and everybody's been doing

33:15

it. Well, they didn't suddenly require it. They suddenly

33:17

enforce it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. And

33:19

it is up to you whether to

33:22

enforce your rules or not. However, that's a

33:24

pretty crappy rule. It

33:27

seems unnecessary given

33:29

that obviously they didn't have

33:31

it before. And it

33:33

clearly wasn't necessary. Yeah. I

33:36

mean, this is obviously part of their

33:38

agreement with Sony, I guess, so that they can

33:41

farm your data. I

33:44

believe it's a Sony-published game or something.

33:47

Yeah, that's tough. Something. I'm not 100%. I

33:49

mean, it does seem like an easy solution

33:51

to this would be to... Oh,

33:54

man, what is the easy solution? Because there's no

33:56

way Sony's going to just like suddenly allow you

33:58

to register from a different country. How

34:01

on earth are they gonna fix this? I have no idea. Because

34:04

there's no way Sony's gonna let them out of

34:06

that requirement. I don't think they're gonna roll it

34:08

back. They obviously would have known that this was

34:10

gonna generate a bunch of backlash. Yeah. Maybe

34:14

they underestimated how angry gamers can

34:16

be. I bet you, honestly, even

34:19

they didn't consider this angle that Pirates of the

34:21

Heart pointed out. Because the

34:23

initial one is kind of annoying. And I can

34:25

understand honestly some people boycotting it because like, oh,

34:27

you make me get this new account. I

34:30

don't personally care that much. But the second you're gonna

34:32

block out people- I mean, there's people that will be

34:34

like mad that you're doing a giveaway because you have

34:37

to have a Twitter account. And they're like, oh, well,

34:39

I don't have one. It's like, bro, Twitter's free. Why

34:42

am I having my information? Bro, make

34:44

a proton mail account. Who gives a shit?

34:46

Just put in some fake information. But it's

34:48

like, it's on principle for these people, right?

34:50

So I could see someone just like on principle

34:52

refusing to create a Sony account. Like, I get

34:54

it. But this

35:00

is much worse. This is much,

35:02

much worse. The second it comes

35:04

down to our, you know, our

35:06

fellow democracy spreaders potentially no longer

35:08

being able to play the game,

35:11

that's where a line has been crossed for me.

35:13

Apparently you have to tie your phone number to

35:15

Twitter now. Good Lord, what a crappy platform. You

35:18

can probably put a fake one in. No,

35:21

because they probably send you a text. Oh,

35:23

you think so? Yeah, probably. Stupid.

35:26

I used to put the White House for my address

35:28

for like almost everything. Nice. Just

35:31

worked all the time. I

35:34

almost always use 90210 as a zip code. You

35:36

never have read this book for anything American. There you go.

35:38

Yeah, exactly. And it's like, you have to put in an

35:40

address and I'm like, well, I'm Canadian. There's no dropdown for

35:43

Canada. It only allows the US. Well, I guess I live

35:45

at the White House now. There's

35:48

probably junk mail addressed to me that has shown

35:50

up to the White House. I

35:52

thought about that not that long ago. Who

35:58

the fuck is this loot left right now? air

36:00

that would actually be kind

36:02

of hilarious prank signing

36:04

the White House up for like magazine

36:07

I just thought

36:09

you guys might want this I'm

36:11

just trying to imagine

36:16

like what would be some what would be

36:18

some fun subscriptions you know you got to

36:20

know this happened so much that it's probably

36:22

like apparently it goes to an off-site facility

36:24

for processing for security reasons that makes a

36:26

ton of sense but yeah

36:28

I we were all apparently I missed

36:31

Ludwig in the YouTube chat oh that's

36:33

a bummer oh wait no one cares

36:35

Linus stop something all right hey thanks

36:37

Ludwig thanks for showing up all

36:39

this must have been cuz I was talking about bro

36:42

versus bro nice okay well should we just do

36:44

that now nice yeah yeah so that was fun

36:47

I went down to LA for

36:49

a number of events now that

36:51

it's now that it's over I don't have any

36:53

sort of security concerns about it so I I

36:56

attended the retirement party for Matt Pat

36:59

he is is no longer working at game theorists

37:01

that doesn't mean he's no longer going to work

37:03

at all he seemed to be in very good

37:06

spirits um I don't know him especially well or

37:08

anything like that but we've talked a couple of

37:10

times obviously I have a ton of respect for

37:12

his work and he seems like one of those

37:14

people that you meet in person and you're like

37:18

all right well you know don't take

37:21

this the wrong way but I think I had

37:23

the full experience of meeting you and

37:25

getting your deal from watching your videos and

37:27

to be clear obviously you know yeah

37:29

he'll say things off-camera that he wouldn't

37:31

say on camera but if you watch

37:33

Matt Pat's videos and you're like wow

37:35

he seems like a likable dude then

37:37

I think you'll meet him in person

37:39

and think wow he seems like a

37:41

likable dude very very genuine guy he

37:43

and Steph absolutely fantastic I've done a

37:45

ton for the platform I've done a

37:47

ton for the community so I was

37:49

very honored to to be able to be down

37:52

there for that and then

37:54

since I was heading down that was

37:56

actually the thing that instigated

37:58

my trip I was like Like, holy

38:01

shnikes, I've been supposed to do

38:03

a bro versus bro with Ludwig forever. He

38:06

came up here and did that collab with us and

38:08

I told him at the time, I was like, I owe

38:11

you one, thank you very much. That was

38:13

absolutely fantastic. Anytime by the way, and

38:15

he's like, by the way, I'm in LA and I was like, heck

38:17

yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

38:20

Heck yeah, right? So I'm okay. I'm coming down

38:22

to LA. Can we make this work? Can we

38:24

try and put these two things together? And then,

38:27

stars aligned and I ended up doing one more

38:29

thing while I was down there. So on the

38:31

Tuesday, I shot

38:33

a video in collaboration with HP

38:35

Enterprise and Kyoxia. Do you know

38:38

about this? I know

38:40

some amount about it. On the Spaceborne 2

38:42

computer. Oh. So

38:46

they rented and I kid you not, this

38:48

is apparently, don't quote me on this because

38:50

who knows. People just like, they

38:53

talk shit and they talk a

38:55

big game, but it's actually whatever.

38:57

But apparently the set that they

38:59

rented was at least

39:02

a piece of the same one that they

39:04

used on Big Bang Theory when

39:06

Waluigi goes to the ISS.

39:09

So I'm in this ISS looking

39:11

set and then they have a

39:14

couple of the actual machines that were

39:17

just sent up to the ISS and

39:19

I think it was February of this

39:21

year. And we talk

39:23

about all the things about them

39:25

that are custom for

39:27

space, all the things about

39:30

them that are not space hardened in

39:32

any way whatsoever. Some of the experiments

39:34

that they've done over the years, some

39:36

of the benefits of having this processing

39:38

on board on the International Space Station

39:40

versus having the processing done, I mean,

39:43

yeah, I guess they can have a cloud

39:45

computing from up there. They just beam it down instead

39:47

of up, right? Versus

39:49

reverse cloud. Versus having

39:51

processing done in the cloud. So

39:53

that's going to be a super cool video. So we shot

39:56

that on the Tuesday and then I came back up Tuesday

39:58

night. But the highlight of the trip. The

40:00

absolute highlight of the trip for me was

40:02

participating in Bro vs Bro. What's really funny

40:04

about this is I don't... Just one... before

40:06

you get into the Bro vs Bro, I

40:08

was gonna show you, but there's not really

40:10

much there. But the reason why I knew

40:13

that that happened was because

40:15

my friend person

40:17

from NASA... Oh yeah. ...got

40:19

me to go down there and then now I just like

40:21

play games with him for fun. He sent me a message

40:23

and was like, uh, how'd you guys do this? It

40:26

was a screenshot of the like ASCII art.

40:28

It was like, what? I

40:31

was like, hold on, what is this? We're

40:33

not gonna spoil what we beamed to the

40:35

ISS. Okay, okay, okay. But we did. We

40:38

did get... We

40:40

got certain access

40:43

and we definitely beamed a message to

40:45

the international crazy. Yeah. Also,

40:48

they're still interested in potentially doing a video

40:50

on Mission Control Center design and stuff like

40:52

that. I think it'd be really good. So

40:56

anyway, what's really funny about Bro vs Bro

40:58

with Bloodwig was that having... I don't watch

41:00

a lot of YouTube and I've been very

41:02

open with this about this in the past.

41:04

I'm not trying to be like an asshole

41:06

or anything like that. You like not know

41:08

what it was? It's just the truth. Well,

41:10

don't you remember on Wancho when I essentially

41:12

pitched a gaming challenge with him after he

41:14

said, I will beat Linus at literally any

41:17

game and I pitched

41:19

a gaming challenge that was essentially Bro vs Bro?

41:21

Yeah, I think I remember that. Yeah, I

41:23

had no idea at the time. I wasn't doing

41:25

a bit. I didn't know

41:27

what to do. I believe you because I know you

41:29

don't watch YouTube. You just read the comments. Exactly. So

41:33

Bro vs Bro is his format

41:35

where each of the two competitors

41:37

brings some advantage games into the

41:39

game pool. Yeah. And

41:41

then there are also some neutral games

41:44

in the game pool. So the neutral

41:46

games are Battleship, Tetris, for

41:49

this one anyway, Pong and

41:51

Rock Paper Scissors. Yeah. And

41:54

we brought our own advantage games. He brought

41:56

Beerio Kart. Oh,

41:58

shoot. advantage games.

42:00

I remember that one well because the- Was

42:02

Geoguesser one of them? Geoguesser was one of

42:05

them, yep, and then he also brought Tekken,

42:07

Tekken 8. Oh, okay, I didn't see that

42:09

part. And then my advantage games were Powerfall,

42:14

okay, Beat Saber, and

42:16

Drunken Fight Simulator, which if

42:18

you remember- You

42:22

didn't pick Halo? If you remember,

42:24

is a game that

42:26

you and I played- Yeah, I

42:28

remember. One time, four years ago-

42:30

Why would you pick that? When

42:33

we had a gaming night where

42:35

we decided we were gonna play

42:37

something fresh- This was very fun,

42:39

actually. And we sorted the entire

42:41

Steam store by price low to

42:44

high and just started buying the

42:46

cheapest games. Barrow? Yeah, Barrow, Barrow

42:48

2020, let's go. Barrow was

42:50

thick, Drunken Fight Simulator was thick. We played some

42:52

disc jam. That was actually pretty fun. It was

42:55

definitely fun before the servers got all shut down.

42:57

Don't buy it now. Waste of money now, the

42:59

servers don't work. If you want a fun game

43:01

to buy now that is kind of in this

43:03

realm of silly, entertaining games, tape to tape. Yeah,

43:05

we're having a blast at that. Genuinely, actually very

43:07

fun. And pretty well made. So

43:10

check it out. So anyway, I

43:13

brought Drunken Fight Simulator to the

43:15

fight. Beautiful. So

43:17

that's our pool of ten games. And the

43:19

way the format works is you kick off

43:21

with a Rock Paper Scissors, which he didn't

43:23

show, which is a shame actually, because it

43:26

was part of the reason why I led the way

43:28

that I did in the

43:31

Rock Paper Scissors. The final Rock Paper Scissors. In the

43:33

Rock Paper Scissors that ended up deciding it was

43:35

because I figured he wouldn't expect me to do

43:37

the same thing again. But he was actually playing

43:40

a completely different mind game with me. Now,

43:42

I have to admit something. Ludwig, if you're

43:44

watching this, um, one

43:49

of the best gamers I know, even

43:52

if she's not too good with a controller

43:54

or a keyboard and mouse, and she hasn't

43:56

played a lot of video games, is my

43:58

wife. One of

44:00

the things that she does is

44:02

she will be constantly even

44:05

when she is very clearly in a

44:07

dominant position on the board Constantly

44:09

talking about how she doesn't really know what

44:12

she's doing and she's just kind of doing

44:14

stuff Have you ever played a strategy game

44:16

with that woman? I Don't

44:19

think so. I vowed 15

44:22

years ago at some point during

44:24

a family game night that I

44:26

would never play risk with her again Never

44:29

because because she has like, you know

44:32

me I'm pretty intense Yeah, and I'll

44:34

be like I'll be like I have

44:36

to warn people before we play video

44:38

games with you I'll

44:41

like start I'll start to call shots

44:43

on the board. I'll be like, okay

44:45

so everyone can see right now that

44:47

player a is is In

44:50

a position where look I can't

44:52

do anything to about any of this because

44:55

I'm stuck in bloody South America Where

44:57

you people exiled me but they are

44:59

about to take over Asia and their

45:01

borders are Completely ready to

45:03

be fortified and if you or

45:05

you don't do anything this game

45:07

is over Like like

45:09

I'm very like that in writing

45:11

inciting action from others. Well, no,

45:13

I'm not because nobody likes That

45:16

guy. Oh, so so

45:18

Yvonne will be just like

45:20

still apologize when she attacks people So

45:23

should be the nice person gotcha doesn't say anything

45:25

other than yeah, sorry I'm not really I'm not

45:27

really sure how to play. I really know what

45:30

I'm doing. Sorry. I took off overall

45:32

your places So I have to admit

45:34

Ludwig during the rock-paper-scissors

45:36

match I Was

45:40

I was taking a page out of my

45:42

wife's book a little bit Got it like I

45:44

and to be clear to be clear you had

45:46

a strategy what I said what I said was

45:48

true I Don't know. Rock-paper-scissors meta

45:50

like I don't I don't know

45:52

I was looking it up I

45:54

was looking it up later and

45:56

apparently statistically scissors is the least

45:58

common throw. For example, are

46:00

men have a tendency to throw rocks

46:02

first the there's like of course we

46:04

the then there's there's all these things

46:06

like mind games and stuff. So when

46:09

you're sued, woot woot when he's telling

46:11

me things like. You. Sick fuck

46:13

to froze that they're like I'm legitimately

46:15

didn't I didn't know why that was

46:17

a weird thing to do or or

46:19

whatever. Yeah, But what I was definitely

46:21

trying to do with i'm a bit

46:23

of Iraq the rumor so was I

46:25

was trying to get in his head.

46:27

Yeah, it's I was. I was. I

46:29

wasn't trying to figure out what he

46:31

would do. That

46:34

was how I lost the first to return

46:36

for a what he thought you would do

46:38

fiasco. That's what I was trying to figure

46:40

out. what. Does he think because it has?

46:42

I don't I've only been out with

46:44

them a couple times. Now in both

46:46

hands, professionally like we we don't know

46:48

have a super well or anything. Just

46:51

so his entire experience with me as

46:53

both relatively recent and relatively short. So.

46:57

All. I had to do with think about

46:59

absolutely everything he knows about me and find

47:01

figure out what he thought I would do,

47:03

and then try and get one ahead of

47:06

it. And.

47:08

So ultimate ultimately guilt spoiler

47:10

alert. but it's definitely still

47:12

worth watching. Jobs? Yeah, Man.

47:15

I don't know how you were confident. he

47:17

messages me right after in his leg. Never

47:19

was hope, never lost hope. How could you

47:21

not have lost hope When we were for

47:23

for in our final game and then Rock

47:26

Paper Scissors was best of five I was

47:28

down to nothing. How could you

47:30

possibly not? A lot. A lot of the I

47:32

Was leaders is like that Rockers is is the

47:34

super swinging game. Yeah.

47:36

I guess people like if is you

47:38

like falling your back foot. And

47:41

rock paper scissors. You're just like team. Bad.

47:44

Ideas But that didn't even happen.

47:46

I. Counted it took us. I think it was

47:48

either twelve or thirteen. To. Has

47:51

five windsor. The.

47:53

I don't know is that is. Normal. but it

47:55

doesn't It didn't feel normal. Pretty normal. His

47:58

cell taught as is the as usual. rock-paper-scissors

48:00

games that I've been involved in.

48:04

I'm making this sound like I do this

48:06

often, which is not true, just to be

48:08

clear. But people will throw the same thing

48:10

all the time. Super

48:12

common. Okay, all right. And

48:15

that's the other thing that I said that was true,

48:17

by the way, Ludwig. I actually don't really play, which

48:20

he's not gonna be happier hearing me say right now, because

48:22

he got like, he

48:24

seemed a little upset about me beating him at things and

48:26

being like, I don't play this. You don't play that many

48:28

games? Yeah. I mean, it is

48:31

true. He used to play a lot. When

48:33

I was going through trying to find my

48:35

advantage games though, man. Why didn't you pick

48:37

Halo? Why didn't you play Supreme Commander? Okay,

48:40

well, there were a couple factors. Remember, I'm an

48:42

entertainer. Yeah. I'm not

48:44

gonna pick Supreme Commander. Yeah, Capcom would not have been fun. That's

48:47

not engaging for the audience, just like watching someone

48:49

not know how to play an RTS. And

48:52

like the most complicated RTS.

48:54

Yeah, it's not. It's up

48:56

there. I

48:58

wouldn't say it's the most complicated necessarily, but

49:00

it's definitely kind of arcane. Like

49:03

the way that it works is fundamentally

49:05

different from the normal way that an

49:07

RTS works. Okay, that's a better way.

49:09

You mine materials, and then you use

49:11

them to make something. In Supreme Commander,

49:13

you have a continuous economy of income

49:16

and use, and

49:18

you have to balance them. Yeah. So

49:20

it's a little- It's weird. Different to wrap

49:22

your brain around. So that

49:24

would not have been entertaining at all. He would

49:26

have had like two things, and I would have

49:28

stormed in with an army and blown it all

49:30

up. As for why not- So you

49:33

tried to push for content a little bit. As for why

49:35

not Halo? They had only one computer there. We weren't in

49:37

their main studio. We were, because I

49:39

was- Gotcha. Realistically, I think what he really

49:41

wanted was to have me down

49:43

there for the yard, their podcast. And then,

49:45

well, I mean, what, we're gonna like go

49:48

do that in that studio and then go

49:50

do like bro versus bro in a different

49:52

studio. Like it doesn't make sense, right? So

49:54

we kind of had to throw together what

49:56

we had with what we had. Sure. So

49:59

if you watch the archive of- the livestream which I think is

50:01

unlisted now. I don't know if he links it

50:03

anywhere but it's like much longer

50:05

and has a lot of technical difficulties and

50:07

stuff like that. It's funny the number of

50:10

comments that I see like what's with all

50:12

the technical difficulties is one is even technical

50:14

like people like actually mad about it. I'm

50:16

like I'm a guest what I'm gonna like

50:19

I'm gonna diagnose their capture card? No

50:21

I'm gonna sit and patiently interact with

50:23

chat. Come on you guys

50:25

what do you think this is? There's also like...

50:28

Do you go into someone's house for dinner and

50:30

like start cooking the meal for them like I

50:32

don't care if you're a chef that's f***ing rude.

50:35

What's your problem? Jeez.

50:38

It's also I mean we have technical

50:40

difficulties all the time. Yeah exactly stuff

50:42

can happen like if you've ever done

50:44

anything in your life you know that

50:47

things don't necessarily always work the way

50:49

they're supposed to. Yeah. Like man that's

50:51

some A plus backseat driving right there.

50:56

How'd you miss Abbot's turn? You

50:59

know what's funny is I even okay you know

51:01

those doors that all the new houses

51:03

have been installing with like the windows like this

51:05

down that I saw one and I was like

51:09

I have no idea how common they are

51:11

for all I know they're super trendy just

51:13

in general more broadly but I saw it

51:15

and I was like man that looks exactly

51:17

like those doors that like my neighbor just

51:19

installed in every new housing development locally has.

51:21

I wanted so

51:23

badly so this is GeoGuessr Canada he challenged

51:26

me to GeoGuessr Canada I was on my

51:28

home turf. Which is you know if you're

51:31

pushing for content which I think you both do

51:33

which is good that's one way to take an

51:35

advantaged game for him and make it more interesting.

51:37

Because I've never played GeoGuessr. Yeah. I've literally

51:40

never played GeoGuessr. But as someone who has

51:42

not a lot but a buddy of mine

51:44

and I will play every once in a

51:46

while hi Bobby but a

51:48

buddy and I will play and Canada actually very

51:50

rarely comes up so even if

51:52

he plays a lot he probably doesn't see a ton

51:54

of Canada so he's like yeah it's

51:56

cool mix. Anyway a location

52:00

came up that was probably about 30 to 50

52:02

miles from home for me. Like it

52:04

was embarrassing that I

52:06

guessed across the entire country and

52:09

it cost me the game and

52:12

almost cost me the whole challenge because if

52:14

I'd won that game it would have been

52:16

over. I wouldn't have had to go to

52:19

being down to nothing in a best of

52:21

five rock, paper, scissors. Like how

52:23

close that was to losing

52:25

me the game was terrible. So basically what

52:27

was going on in my head, this was

52:30

the very first round of Geoguessr I've

52:32

never played before. I didn't really understand how

52:34

quickly you should be moving around and stuff.

52:36

Yeah, I saw that. I hadn't really watched

52:38

him play. Yeah, you

52:40

want to zoom. Yeah, and so I was

52:43

just there. I was like, oh, can I see anything

52:45

that's a hint? No,

52:47

all the license plates are kind of blurred. I guess

52:49

I won't be able to rely on that and doo

52:51

doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. And

52:55

it felt so close to home that

52:57

I second guessed myself. I went,

53:00

there's no way. They got to be more common

53:02

than that. There's no way the first one is

53:04

just going to be in my backyard. I

53:07

don't know, some suburb in Ontario. And

53:10

I ended up being off by like 2000 miles. Because

53:13

Canada's in Norman. Or whatever it is.

53:16

My big crutch for Geoguessr is

53:18

domains. Domains.

53:21

It's usually worldwide. And I find that

53:23

the really big countries, like the US and Canada,

53:25

really actually don't come up that much. It's

53:28

often Europe. Europe, various European

53:30

countries. Oh, like little European countries. Even

53:33

if you're off, you're going to be close-ish. But

53:35

if you see a store

53:37

banner, and the store banner has their website

53:39

on it, and then .nl, it's like, oh.

53:41

Yeah, then that's a pretty easy one. Cool.

53:44

So I'll just like zoom around, try to find something that would

53:46

have a website on it, and it'd be

53:48

like, all right, cool. I know where that is. And I

53:50

figured some of that stuff out later. Like

53:53

using signs and stuff. But I didn't figure it

53:56

out early on. It just wasn't a game I'd

53:58

played Before. It was brutal too, because. The

54:00

M score for Murphy was actually very close

54:02

to really close. I grew up on one

54:04

hundred points and he'll probably why thousand were

54:06

like. Almost immediately on his screen there was

54:08

a sign that just said oh well, like

54:10

that a killer yeah, the name of a

54:12

university or something yes and managed to Florida.

54:14

One or two more clicks later and it

54:17

was two major highways crossing. You tell that

54:19

was his last one and it was like

54:21

oh I guess I can find exactly this

54:23

spot into it. like Max of yeah So

54:25

when I saw that happening as like I

54:27

guess he was so I thought you had

54:29

enough to them because. Without basically a

54:31

perfect guess yeah, I knew were going

54:33

to win anyways. yeah. That's

54:36

how I mean. Realistically, as

54:38

he had his, he had

54:40

his own bamboozled moments that.

54:43

I still. Burst

54:45

out laughing every time I watch

54:48

his breakout. Game. Plus I didn't

54:50

see the whole thing using the summer break

54:52

out. I saw Procaine. that's the one thing

54:54

that we're gonna watch together on the So

54:57

today I saw I saw you playing, I

54:59

saw you talking about the lag inputs and

55:01

then I saw them try to so like

55:03

it's not like he and I'm watching just

55:05

been linked bush me since I can see

55:08

it's like to the power of the internet

55:10

but I didn't get to watch the rest

55:12

as like busy doing stuff. Another try to

55:14

tune in when I could. Yeah yeah that's

55:16

fine the this is man. this is absolutely.

55:19

While. Though. A. Case of

55:21

here and ah I'm I'm bringing up on the on

55:23

the stream version he down. Am I gonna have audio

55:25

here? Ah yes, you are

55:28

not playing anything now. I sure

55:30

am not. I. Am I now?

55:32

Yes I have a skilled so on his laptop

55:34

hearing elixir that you guys can hear to. Censor.

55:38

He says he's playing around with a little bit.

55:40

gonna get a feel for the I that's my

55:42

up and I think this is my control is

55:44

all he keeps site. Is

55:47

on? Yeah and for all. Oh, is the

55:49

audio really badly for us? Is most likely only

55:51

for us. Okay, fourth one. oh

55:54

god i hope that it should

55:57

be why isn't so bad for

55:59

us Sounds like sample

56:01

rate mismatch. Okay. Oh What

56:04

no, no, he got it he got it he got it Okay,

56:07

so don't don't worry about it. So we get

56:09

five balls We were gonna play pong but we

56:12

couldn't find a pong that would accelerate the ball

56:14

in between shots We couldn't

56:16

find a web pong that would work properly. That's

56:18

weird because that's just how pong works. It gets

56:20

faster as you play Okay,

56:23

okay the audio doesn't really matter that much it

56:26

doesn't really matter that much But a

56:28

lot of you were able you could just I'm just gonna

56:30

turn the audio off forget it so

56:33

basically He's

56:40

cruising along And

56:42

then just gets absolutely completely

56:46

Just bamboozled. So

56:49

he's got to get 102 points to beat me.

56:51

Oh those clothes and he's used up three

56:53

balls now Is

56:58

the orange and the red just like that no, they

57:01

speed it up But I don't

57:03

think they're supposed to actually change the

57:06

angle the angle Yeah, but but the

57:08

higher bricks are worth way more points

57:11

So the lower ones are worth one each and then I think

57:13

it goes up to three and then like five or seven or

57:15

something It

57:19

just tosses it on a weirdo look at your

57:21

face you love this I could I couldn't believe

57:23

it I couldn't believe it.

57:25

I don't I mean I like

57:28

winning obviously But I felt

57:30

terrible for the guy because that was Ridiculous

57:32

that is ridiculous and with how leggy the

57:35

controls were you can't be reacting to like

57:37

to catch it. Yeah Yeah,

57:40

the first one was just it looked completely

57:42

broken. I just yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it

57:44

was ridiculous That's that's unfortunate when you when

57:46

you don't like prep the games ahead of

57:49

time Well, honestly, we had the same issue

57:51

in drunken fight simulator Like

57:54

it didn't I swear to you the controls are

57:56

worse than they were when we played Marking

58:00

Worsley, very noticeably

58:02

worse like we could barely

58:04

we could barely orient our guys to face the

58:06

same way and the animations weren't even so Like

58:10

sometimes you could get them to turn a little

58:12

bit I think I think it worked better the

58:14

time that we played and obviously a game hasn't

58:16

been patched I mean, that's probably why come on

58:19

right? So it barely worked at all Epic

58:25

yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun though

58:27

He was an absolutely great host what I said

58:29

about him on the yard. I I stand by

58:31

100% I think that

58:33

he is an S tier host. I

58:36

think he's a born entertainer Yeah, and

58:38

you could basically drop him into pretty

58:40

much anything and he would manage to

58:43

To find the entertainment find the humor

58:46

And it just it doesn't surprise me what a

58:48

success the guy's been even if you know Like

58:51

I said, I don't I don't watch a ton

58:53

of content and honestly the rest of the the

58:55

rest of the team was great I was razzing them

58:57

a little bit on the podcast. I don't know if

58:59

you've watched it you you listen to the yard, right?

59:02

It's up now not are you used to anyway? Yeah

59:05

I will probably listen to it at some point. I

59:07

my thing with the yard is I I had this

59:09

great appreciation for the yard because I

59:12

gained a ton of weight over kovat and the the best and

59:15

safest thing for me to do for a while was just go

59:17

walk So I would walk for like

59:19

hour and a half to two hours every day, right?

59:21

Just to get tons of steps in so I would

59:23

listen to just the yard constantly because it was really

59:25

entertaining and It would make

59:27

me I would want to listen to it So I'd

59:29

want to go outside and walk cuz I wouldn't let

59:31

myself listen to it without walking having been on it

59:33

I still don't understand what it is about What

59:37

is the podcast about is it just white

59:39

guys talk about things podcast cuz yeah. All

59:42

right. Yeah. Yeah fair enough I guess but

59:45

white women and dogs All

59:48

right Just that's that's the

59:50

topic. That's what's about sure Yeah, cuz like there

59:52

wasn't it didn't seem like I don't think there's

59:55

like a set like this is this is like

59:57

a tech News show, but What

59:59

do we talk about? What Half? the time? What's.

1:00:02

The Point of this show. I.

1:00:04

Don't know exactly what's the boy who knows

1:00:06

how to hold the yard. It's like some

1:00:09

dude sitting in chairs and a yard. Called.

1:00:12

The not hard on their like

1:00:14

tear. Like. Little bro controller are

1:00:17

set up for their guess I was a bad

1:00:19

they all had like written and only thing i

1:00:21

don't watch it because i just listen to as

1:00:23

walk into have really nice mike arms so they

1:00:25

can like shift in the chair fear. And.

1:00:27

Like have their mike like right next to

1:00:29

their mouth and stuff and I'm just minds

1:00:31

the sound like a light stand aside to

1:00:33

like sit up like I had a broomstick up

1:00:35

my but the home prices. And

1:00:38

to be clear it was it was fine.

1:00:40

They were all very courteous. guess I gave the

1:00:42

i gave the rest of the guys that

1:00:44

have a about like I rather than a

1:00:46

little bit late I don't even the you guys

1:00:49

are awesome but they were absolutely fantastic and

1:00:51

night I was mostly just leaning into that

1:00:53

later just said just a rather than cause not

1:00:55

like be didn't take their opportunities with me

1:00:57

without success. Of sir,

1:00:59

we didn't even make it through Rovers

1:01:01

Hasbro without him bringing him from the

1:01:03

Hard Are incident. Oh really? yeah, I

1:01:05

didn't realize that I suspected they would

1:01:07

have on the yard out of all

1:01:09

the meme faces. And like everything that's

1:01:11

gone on here in that the eleven

1:01:13

years that I've been doing this Atlantis

1:01:15

Media group. Really? The

1:01:17

Hard Are one is the one that

1:01:20

has made it's way into the general

1:01:22

consciousness I think more than anything else.

1:01:24

And for those of you who aren't

1:01:27

familiar. Ah, I'm on an episode of

1:01:29

the When show some time ago. I

1:01:31

don't even remember but I I I

1:01:34

alluded to having used what I thought

1:01:36

that meant I thought it meant I

1:01:38

thought it meant something out a mental

1:01:41

disability slur and I was talking about

1:01:43

how it was culturally acceptable to use

1:01:45

it in the early two. Thousand was

1:01:47

in high school and I referred to

1:01:50

it as the Hard Are thinking that

1:01:52

that's what that meant but I have

1:01:54

found out that means a very different

1:01:56

word the entire doesn't begin with are.

1:01:59

You. up with the Okay, why would why would it be why

1:02:01

what? How does

1:02:03

the word hard make any sense with the

1:02:05

previous one? I don't know well because it's

1:02:07

a hard word I don't know I don't

1:02:10

know they're talking about how you pronounce the R

1:02:12

at the end of the I understand now

1:02:15

Thank you very much Professor. You know

1:02:17

the worst part about this for me. Yeah People

1:02:21

just constantly bring it up around me I'm

1:02:25

like I don't want to talk about this I Have

1:02:30

never met this person before don't know that they know

1:02:32

me or anything I let us walk up be like

1:02:34

hard are like why I don't want anyone around me

1:02:36

to hear that you're saying this to me Like I

1:02:38

don't we're in private conversation

1:02:40

maybe but people are just walking up to me

1:02:43

and saying hard are in public And I'm like

1:02:45

wait. I don't What do

1:02:47

you? So

1:02:51

you yeah, you've cursed me if that if that makes

1:02:53

you feel any better, that's pretty funny. Yeah I

1:02:56

thought you might like yeah, I mean

1:02:58

I mean how many things in your life are cursed because of

1:03:00

me the worst one Yeah,

1:03:06

that's great I had

1:03:09

the pleasure of I Had

1:03:11

the pleasure of bringing up the ice

1:03:13

climbers video that you owe me to

1:03:15

the best from those guys you do

1:03:17

video Yeah, so poor Ludwig got

1:03:20

to realize that the only video I'd ever watched

1:03:23

my video Which

1:03:25

I didn't realize As

1:03:28

I'm sitting there on their podcast. Oh

1:03:30

man. I I found them through

1:03:34

Slime wire as well slimes channel. I

1:03:37

didn't actually because I don't watch streams at all

1:03:39

ever I had no idea

1:03:41

how profitable podcasting was I think

1:03:43

they make more on the yard

1:03:46

Then we do on any individual property

1:03:48

including when show like they like they

1:03:51

have 40,000 subscribers to just

1:03:53

the weekly pie. Oh, yeah, why do we do when

1:03:55

show for free? Wait, what's the point of the subscribers?

1:03:57

Do they get it early or something or like they

1:03:59

get a decent? amount of extra content. Oh

1:04:01

do they? Okay. Yeah. That's kind of cool.

1:04:03

The yard's patreon is actually like pretty

1:04:06

good. Yeah maybe we should learn some things. Yeah.

1:04:08

I'm going to your laptop. I mean I've brought

1:04:10

them up a few times. Oh

1:04:12

get out of here. No one will respond to that

1:04:14

if you email it. I don't know

1:04:17

if it's gonna show here but yeah see

1:04:19

premium episodes. I

1:04:21

don't know. Okay. I don't know like do they

1:04:23

do a thing at the end of the show

1:04:25

or something? It didn't seem like it. Not with

1:04:27

me anyway. It seemed like everything we shot was

1:04:29

the thing that was uploaded so. Yeah so they

1:04:31

have premium episodes. They have this yeah Aiden's

1:04:33

advice. I

1:04:36

don't know. They've got other stuff. So there's a bunch

1:04:38

of a bunch of extra content. I think there's a

1:04:40

pretty big lean on extra content. Got it. And then

1:04:43

there's you know Discord access the normal stuff. Postcards.

1:04:45

I don't know what's up with that. First look

1:04:47

at all merchant discounts. That's cool. Yeah so their

1:04:50

merch sells out crazy fast as far as I

1:04:52

can tell. Like oh yeah. They had a like

1:04:54

a coffee book or something. Yeah a coffee book

1:04:56

like coffee table book or whatever they're called.

1:04:59

Sure. And apparently it's sold out in like five

1:05:01

minutes and they have to do a second printing

1:05:03

now or something like that. That's wild. Oh they

1:05:06

have a cool tier at the end there that

1:05:08

I'm not gonna say. Linus figures out something he

1:05:10

does for four plus hours a week can make

1:05:12

money. Okay I know it can make money. It's

1:05:14

just that it could make more. The point is

1:05:16

just that I had no idea

1:05:19

how invested people get

1:05:22

in like podcasts. Like I just yeah

1:05:24

I don't know. I don't I don't

1:05:26

consume them. This is one of those things

1:05:28

that I don't consume. So if they're selling a natural

1:05:30

just lawn chair. Yeah it's pretty

1:05:32

comfy. I sat on it during bro versus

1:05:35

bro. It's a rocking lawn chair. That's funny.

1:05:37

Why not right? Yeah. I don't know. We

1:05:39

made a screwdriver. Who knows. Yeah exactly. Here's

1:05:41

what I was talking about. It's a little

1:05:43

blurred because I'm not subscribed to their Patreon

1:05:45

but yeah. See the chair there. But it's

1:05:47

a lawn chair. Yeah they kill it. They 42,583 members.

1:05:50

That's that's some monster member count. Yeah. Heck

1:05:57

yeah. No kidding. It definitely made

1:05:59

me feel like we... need a set upgrade. We

1:06:01

are probably, we are probably, we probably

1:06:04

have the highest, um,

1:06:07

sort of general reach and influence to

1:06:11

set construction quality ratio

1:06:13

on the internet at

1:06:16

this point. Like the WAN show is

1:06:18

low key, a gigantic podcast. Like we

1:06:20

have 600 to 700,000 weekly

1:06:25

viewers of the video thing. I don't even know

1:06:27

how many people watch it or listen to it

1:06:29

on podcast platforms. But Ludwig

1:06:32

pointed out to me that thousands of people

1:06:34

apparently watch on Twitter, which I had, I

1:06:37

didn't even know. We just like turn it

1:06:39

on. I think never looked at once. I have not.

1:06:41

I have never once looked at how many people are

1:06:43

watching. We are streaming set

1:06:45

up. We can just like add streaming destinations. No problem.

1:06:47

Yeah. So we should just stream everywhere. Once in

1:06:49

a while we're just like, Oh, there's another one we

1:06:51

didn't think of. We're on TikTok now. Yeah.

1:06:54

Do you know about that? We're on TikTok

1:06:56

right now. Yeah. Holy f***ing s***. There are

1:06:58

11,000 people apparently watching on Twitter. Sup

1:07:03

dudes? What

1:07:06

are you even doing with your life? Why are you

1:07:08

watching live? Why are you watching a four hour video

1:07:10

on Twitter? Yes, you're

1:07:12

being called out. Get attacked. Why

1:07:16

would you watch this show? Go apply

1:07:18

nerds. Get on the internet. What

1:07:20

are you doing watching it

1:07:24

on Twitter? Apparently our

1:07:27

chat is verified only. Can we un that

1:07:29

it? Because that's crazy. That'll probably get so,

1:07:31

Oh, sure. Oh, I'm filled with that. Dude.

1:07:33

I'm not. No, no, I'm not. I'm not.

1:07:35

You're right. You're right. I'm just saying I'm

1:07:37

not going to even be thinking about unmoderated.

1:07:40

I'm not even, I don't even care for

1:07:42

my Luke. This is the very last time

1:07:44

that I am ever going to look at

1:07:46

it. It doesn't matter. How

1:07:48

long have we even been streaming on

1:07:51

there? I don't know. A few weeks

1:07:53

now, something like that. No one. No

1:07:56

one. I mean, are these just all box

1:07:58

anyway? Like look, probably don't look. of the

1:08:00

comments. Buddy here is like didn't even

1:08:02

know this was a thing so pretty

1:08:04

active chat. Is that the only

1:08:06

verified user? I don't know. Because it's verified only chat

1:08:09

and that's the only comment. I don't know if you

1:08:11

can check the YouTube list or anything. That's kind

1:08:14

of sick. I think I like that. That's good. We

1:08:16

should keep it that way. Sup Mario. Alright well there

1:08:18

you go. There's two of them now. Things are taking

1:08:20

off a little. Yeah. Yeah that's probably okay. We gotta

1:08:22

get out here. We gotta not encourage this. That's the

1:08:24

end of the attention for the Twitter chat. Yeah. That

1:08:28

is hilarious. I wonder what Ludwig

1:08:30

thinks about us being openly hostile

1:08:32

against most of our viewership of

1:08:34

the web show. No. No. We

1:08:36

are not openly hostile to most

1:08:38

of the viewership. We are openly

1:08:40

hostile toward most of the viewing

1:08:42

platform. We are

1:08:44

openly hostile to Twitch, Twitter, Facebook,

1:08:47

actually Facebook we're more just ambivalent

1:08:49

about this. We got 18 on

1:08:51

Facebook. Why yeah exactly. We love you guys.

1:08:53

Those are our real viewers. In the words

1:08:56

of... Move Mom. In the words

1:08:58

of Nikita from Bao Say Gens.

1:09:00

Actually. Those are the true believers.

1:09:02

Luke's mom is legit way too

1:09:04

tech savvy to be watching on

1:09:06

Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. She has a

1:09:08

float plane account. Exactly. Got him.

1:09:11

Yeah and I don't know.

1:09:14

I don't think we're openly hostile to TikTok. How

1:09:16

many people are watching on TikTok? Well you didn't

1:09:18

even know they existed. We got 238. 241. Yeah.

1:09:20

Yay. That kind of makes sense. Who would be

1:09:22

watching this on TikTok? That yeah. Well I mean

1:09:24

last week we had like 10. Oh so we

1:09:26

doubled is what you're trying to

1:09:30

say. 200 is more than... Oh. So

1:09:33

we 20xed. Yeah. I don't remember. I

1:09:35

think part of the problem

1:09:39

is there's like there is a WAN. There is an

1:09:42

account on TikTok called The WAN Show but

1:09:44

our actual account is called The Dot WAN

1:09:46

Dot Show. Seriously? Yeah. So I

1:09:48

wasn't even on the right page. This shows you

1:09:50

what I know about TikTok. Yeah like we don't

1:09:52

stream WAN Show on the Linus Tech Tips TikTok.

1:09:55

I don't know why. Maybe

1:09:57

that... I'm sure someone has some reason

1:09:59

for that. I'm sure. Hey,

1:10:01

look at that. But here's the like, yeah, that's the

1:10:03

real one. Wait, it's not vertical, is it? I

1:10:05

don't know. Oh, no, these are clips. Thankfully,

1:10:07

no. Oh, it's hilarious. These are

1:10:09

clips. Okay. So the WAN show is live.

1:10:12

Okay. So Dan, what's our Spotify

1:10:14

numbers? I hope they're good because like I

1:10:16

low key legitimately thought that the

1:10:18

WAN show is like kind of a big podcast.

1:10:21

And if I find out now that it's actually

1:10:23

a really small podcast, then my pee pee will

1:10:25

get very small. Well, I mean, we're fourth in

1:10:27

the US for tech. Oh, okay.

1:10:30

That seems kind of looks like 500 on

1:10:33

the podium then. So 500,000 listeners in

1:10:35

the last month. Oh, that seems like a

1:10:37

fair bit. I don't know. Is

1:10:40

that an idea? They're not super related.

1:10:42

Like they're like a cryptocurrency trading podcast

1:10:44

or stuff. Like it's anything that could

1:10:46

fall under tech. Okay. So

1:10:49

what are the what are the ones ahead of us, Dan? Again,

1:10:51

there's a cybersecurity one, cryptocurrency one and

1:10:53

Wall Street Journal. How do you find

1:10:56

the Wall Street Journal? When

1:10:58

it comes to my email. Do

1:11:00

you have a way of screen sharing or just

1:11:03

forward it to one of these accounts? I will

1:11:05

try and find it. That might take too long.

1:11:07

So apparently there's a theory on

1:11:10

why the WAN show is so big. Okay.

1:11:13

And it's because people fall asleep. And

1:11:16

then when they wake up, they're watching the WAN

1:11:18

show. They were talking about this on the way

1:11:20

for a podcast a week or two ago. Wow.

1:11:23

They're like, yeah, how often is it? How often is

1:11:25

it that you go to sleep? And

1:11:27

when you wake up, you're listening to Linus and

1:11:29

Luke talk about tech on the WAN show. And

1:11:31

they were like very often, which

1:11:34

I think is pretty funny. Who's

1:11:36

sleeping for like three hours? Full plane chat is

1:11:38

like, no, this is 100% of thing that happens

1:11:40

to me every day. Fix your

1:11:42

sleep? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're

1:11:44

not sleeping for three hours. They go to sleep

1:11:47

listening to something and then

1:11:49

it auto plays all night and they wake

1:11:51

up in the middle of a six hour

1:11:53

WAN show. It ends up landing on WAN

1:11:55

show. Exactly. Well, OK, then everyone else just

1:11:58

needs to figure out their game. I

1:12:00

forgot the market, man. We cornered our niche. It's

1:12:02

sleeping people, okay? You

1:12:06

can find your own. And the show is

1:12:08

so long so we can have every single

1:12:11

keyword in the video description in the timestamp.

1:12:13

Yeah. Yeah. Alright,

1:12:16

you just got to figure it out. Oh, that's fantastic. Fantastic.

1:12:19

Okay, so Dan, do you have the

1:12:22

list? No, I'm looking for it currently.

1:12:24

Okay, fine. You can just... Or,

1:12:27

like, is this something you can

1:12:29

just search for? Like the... Oh,

1:12:32

I might be able to find it. I don't know how

1:12:34

Spotify works. We're

1:12:36

not on Spotify. We're using a

1:12:38

new thing called Megaphone. By Spotify.

1:12:41

What? Yeah, Megaphone.

1:12:43

Why do you need Megaphone? Ah,

1:12:46

chartable. So, Megaphone allows us

1:12:49

to simultaneously post it everywhere and

1:12:51

also manage all of the podcasts

1:12:53

simultaneously. Previously, what we would have

1:12:55

to do is go to each

1:12:57

individual... Oh,

1:12:59

no, I don't want to sign up. I want to log in. We'd

1:13:02

have to go to each individual platform and

1:13:04

then post it there, right? Because

1:13:06

we've got Tech LinkedIn, Game Linked is a

1:13:08

podcast now. Chartable

1:13:10

doesn't even show us in the top... Oh, it's

1:13:12

United States of America. Okay. I'm

1:13:15

looking at our statistics. Do you make

1:13:17

money on, like, a Spotify podcast? Yes,

1:13:20

we may make money. Do we really? Yes.

1:13:22

So, one of the reasons they moved us over

1:13:24

to Megaphone was part of their... Audient...

1:13:28

Spotify Audience Network, which allows us

1:13:30

to... I'm so sorry, do

1:13:33

targeted advertising. Oh!

1:13:35

We can also insert advertisements as necessary and it's

1:13:37

all sort of automated. Interesting. People know that they

1:13:39

don't have to listen to those ads and they

1:13:42

can just, like, watch on YouTube where we don't

1:13:44

insert ads in the land show, right? Yeah.

1:13:46

Or say you have something like Spotify Premium.

1:13:48

I don't believe the ads are served. Oh,

1:13:51

got it. Okay. Well, that's,

1:13:53

uh, that's neat, I guess. Should

1:13:55

we jump into a topic? Oh, no, we're supposed to

1:13:57

explain merch messages. Hey! Oh, yeah, that's right. down

1:14:00

there for Ludwig's dream. Someone sent

1:14:03

him a super chat for 500 US dollars, which

1:14:06

I thought was pretty wild. And even he

1:14:09

seemed like kind of taken aback by it.

1:14:11

He was like, yeah, I have kind of

1:14:13

a policy. Anything above $100, I don't give

1:14:15

any kind of

1:14:18

different reaction to because...

1:14:20

You don't want to encourage like

1:14:22

degenerate behavior. Yeah, you don't want to encourage

1:14:24

people to just be giving way too much

1:14:26

money to people that, you know, obviously... Some

1:14:28

of those people, maybe that is totally fine

1:14:30

for them, but you're also... Some

1:14:33

people are a little silly with their money sometimes, and they'll

1:14:35

see something like that happen and do it when that's the

1:14:38

last $100 they have left. Yeah, which

1:14:40

they really shouldn't do, and I would never encourage someone

1:14:42

to do. And like maybe if it's the oil princes

1:14:44

or whatever, like who cares? Yeah, sure, why not? And

1:14:46

then I think he said something along the lines of

1:14:49

like anything above $500 he like doesn't acknowledge or something

1:14:51

like that. Like I can't remember exactly how

1:14:53

he explained like his sort of personal approach

1:14:55

to it. Like that based? Our approach is

1:14:57

I'll take your $500. In fact, I'll take

1:14:59

$5,000. $50,000.

1:15:03

But in exchange... $500,000. I

1:15:06

will send you some fine merchandise

1:15:08

from lttstore.com. We really do have

1:15:10

an extremely broad range of products

1:15:13

these days. We've got everything from

1:15:15

hats to... Oh man, we've

1:15:19

got some really cool new stuff this week.

1:15:21

We've got hats, we've got tools, we've got

1:15:23

cable organizers. Man, this product is like my

1:15:25

favorite thing ever. Look at this GIF. Man,

1:15:28

you just put that little magnet on there.

1:15:30

It's a GIF, Luke. Get over it. Put

1:15:33

that little GIF on there. Reviews. Solid.

1:15:36

Absolutely love it. I have

1:15:39

to remove the triangle piece. Oh, okay.

1:15:41

Product is great. Oh, shipping took long.

1:15:43

Oh, that's too bad. Well, says

1:15:46

the product is great, and I guess we need to get

1:15:48

our shipping sorted out. But hey, that's our

1:15:50

transparency for you. So you can check out reviews. We've got

1:15:53

a lot of great products. We've got some really cool stuff

1:15:55

this week. Have you seen this yet, Luke? Well,

1:15:59

I'm wearing... one of them. Oh

1:16:02

that is hilarious. Luke

1:16:04

is wearing a dead pixel. It's

1:16:06

the dead pixel collection folks and we've

1:16:08

got so much cool stuff. Wanna be

1:16:11

the Vanna today? Sure.

1:16:13

We've got a dead

1:16:15

pixel monitor enamel pin.

1:16:17

It's on there. It's on

1:16:20

there. It is a little hard to see. But that's the point.

1:16:22

There's a dead pixel on

1:16:25

there. Oh I got

1:16:27

it. We've got a dead pixel sticker

1:16:29

sheet. So you could put a dead

1:16:31

pixel on your house. You could put a

1:16:33

dead pixel on the bumper. Each one of these stickers

1:16:35

is a pixel. Yep you could put a dead pixel

1:16:37

on the bumper of your car. You could put a

1:16:39

dead pixel on your water bottle. You could put it

1:16:41

anywhere you want. We've

1:16:43

got the dead pixel desk pad. Do you want

1:16:45

to take this out? Nope not

1:16:48

necessary. I think people understand the

1:16:50

point. It's a black mouse pad. There's

1:16:52

a white dead pixel on it somewhere. I'm

1:16:55

told they're all different as well. That

1:16:59

is so cool. That is really cool. Is that true

1:17:01

of all of them? Maybe that's only the shirts. I

1:17:03

don't know. Don't quote me on

1:17:05

that because I'm pretty sure the enamel pin is always

1:17:07

in the same place. So I don't know. The dead

1:17:09

pixels on it somewhere. Maybe they're the same. Maybe some

1:17:11

of them are different. It's all part

1:17:14

of the fun. Considering the enamel pin it's like it's

1:17:17

not part of the paint. It's

1:17:19

actually part of the metal. I

1:17:21

think it's molded. Yeah. Anyway this

1:17:23

I believe was a Sarah Butt

1:17:25

brainstorm a while back and

1:17:27

I was basically like not only do we need

1:17:29

to do this we need to

1:17:32

do so much more of this. So

1:17:34

it's man yeah we ended up

1:17:37

with an entire collection so you guys can check it

1:17:39

out by clicking it there. Sticker sheet.

1:17:41

Did I miss anything? Nope but you can get a bundle. Oh

1:17:43

that's cool. Okay so you can get some bundle savings $59.99 for

1:17:45

the entire dead pixel collection

1:17:48

and this is the same quality desk pad

1:17:50

that you guys have come to know and

1:17:52

love from us. Don't take my word for

1:17:54

it. Take the word of all of the

1:17:56

people who have bought our desk pads over

1:17:58

the years. One that has

1:18:00

sold the most is of course the

1:18:02

Northern Lights design, and this is a

1:18:04

five-star product, quite literally a five-star product,

1:18:06

with thousands of reviews. We've sold tens

1:18:08

and tens of thousands of these. So

1:18:10

it's a really great quality pad. The

1:18:13

only problem with it is that, hey,

1:18:15

if there's a dead pixel, I'm afraid

1:18:17

we will not be accepting a return

1:18:19

on this desk pad. If

1:18:22

it has more than five dead pixels in

1:18:24

a cluster, then I would accept a return

1:18:26

for it. That seems

1:18:28

fair. There you go. There's your dead

1:18:30

pixel right there. Dofo

1:18:33

in full-blown chat said, so last week was

1:18:35

a setup? Right you are. Very

1:18:39

clever of us. Anyway, the point

1:18:41

is, I think we've... So yeah,

1:18:43

if you want to send a merch message, all you've

1:18:45

got to do is head to lttstore.com, add something to

1:18:47

your cart, and when you're in the cart, you'll get

1:18:49

a little pop-up when we're live to send a merch

1:18:51

message. It'll go to Producer Dan. Hey, Producer

1:18:54

Dan, who will reply to

1:18:56

you, curate it for me and Luke to

1:18:58

respond to, or just pop it up at

1:19:00

the bottom, or even forward it to someone else

1:19:02

internally who can get back to you with the

1:19:04

answer that you need. Yeah,

1:19:07

I have one more update on the store, if

1:19:09

you guys are looking for an excuse to send

1:19:11

a merch message today. Today is your last opportunity

1:19:13

to save 20% on the backpack. We

1:19:16

are taking back orders for our

1:19:18

first batch of the fully updated

1:19:20

backpacks with the dual layer bottom

1:19:22

and the titanium carabiner, and YouTube

1:19:24

Shopping is helping you save 20%

1:19:26

if you shop the real deal

1:19:28

and purchase through the product tag

1:19:30

on this video. On YouTube.

1:19:33

Yeah, so if it's not there, you don't

1:19:35

have the discount because YouTube is paying

1:19:37

for the discount. They are

1:19:39

covering the discount. All new backpack orders

1:19:41

are expected to ship in July. There is a very

1:19:43

limited number of these discounts available, so if you want

1:19:45

to get a deal on the backpack, grab it now.

1:19:48

Dan, do you want to throw a

1:19:51

couple of merch messages at us and we can show the

1:19:53

people how it works? Sure thing. Let's see, Jacob here. DinoPins

1:19:55

when? At

1:19:57

Luke, can you talk about your experience with

1:19:59

Shopify? and your team's process. As

1:20:01

a Shopify developer, I'd love to

1:20:03

hear your thoughts on not

1:20:06

building a custom theme. Hmm.

1:20:08

On not building a custom theme. Man.

1:20:12

I mean, sorry to jump in. It would

1:20:15

be very unlike me to do that if someone

1:20:17

specifically asked Link a question. Totally.

1:20:19

Yeah, yeah. Do

1:20:22

it faster. I don't even think it's an option. What

1:20:24

do you mean? Like not doing a custom

1:20:27

theme. Like honestly, we ran into so

1:20:29

many limitations. I'm trying to figure out what they mean because

1:20:31

like our theme is based on one of

1:20:33

the Shopify themes. So are they saying that

1:20:35

that's not doing that? I think it

1:20:37

is doing that because we've made a lot of modifications.

1:20:40

Yeah. But it isn't like custom from the ground

1:20:42

up. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah,

1:20:45

I would say- I'm not sure how they're

1:20:47

defining this. Got it. Well, one way or

1:20:49

another, I'll tell you this. You

1:20:51

will run into limitations so fast. Let

1:20:53

Shopify- Like you try to just go

1:20:55

bone stock. Let Shopify work for you.

1:20:57

They're actually great. There are

1:20:59

limitations to it. You're going

1:21:02

to get frustrated sometimes because there's whatever

1:21:04

weird esoteric idea that you have that isn't

1:21:07

going to work very well with the Shopify

1:21:09

setup. But in general, Shopify is this fairly

1:21:12

quickly considering the size of the company, constantly

1:21:14

marching forward machine that will improve and develop

1:21:16

your store effectively for you. So I would

1:21:19

highly recommend to base off one of their

1:21:21

themes. I think the theme that we based

1:21:23

off of is the Dawn theme. I believe

1:21:25

that's it. That sounds familiar. And then it's

1:21:27

heavily modified. So pick one of the ones

1:21:29

that you like that are on like the-

1:21:32

do a very short amount of research because

1:21:34

it doesn't require much to figure out which

1:21:36

one is their most like forward- which ones

1:21:38

are their most forward facing ones right now.

1:21:41

Pick one of those, modify it to your

1:21:43

liking. And then as they have the- I

1:21:45

don't remember what they're called, but it's the-

1:21:47

it happens like, I don't know, twice a

1:21:49

year or something. They have these Shopify events

1:21:51

and they announce like 10 trillion

1:21:54

features. 20% are available now.

1:21:56

80% are going to be available over the next series

1:21:58

of weeks and months, years. whatever and then

1:22:01

just integrate those features and keep moving

1:22:03

forward and then check out the app

1:22:05

store. They

1:22:07

also do like a Shopify approved apps thing

1:22:09

where there's apps that have worked more directly

1:22:11

with Shopify. Those ones are often better. We

1:22:15

work with a lot of different companies in this

1:22:17

realm. Shopify, I would probably say

1:22:20

is one of the best ones considering

1:22:22

what they do and how easy it is to work with

1:22:25

them. And considering how little you pay,

1:22:27

especially when your volume is pretty low. And

1:22:30

once you get into them taking a percentage

1:22:32

of your revenue, then they end up definitely

1:22:34

like they make money on us. But

1:22:38

they do a lot of work. We don't

1:22:40

exist without them and hiring a development team

1:22:42

to do all the things that Shopify does

1:22:44

for us. We

1:22:47

don't want to. Yeah.

1:22:49

There. That's the it's not efficient. Yes.

1:22:52

We were we'd be better off. They

1:22:54

do a lot. Better off making modifications

1:22:57

to Shopify than just trying to build our

1:22:59

own thing from scratch. And you

1:23:01

got to consider like if you look at the service

1:23:04

in a really, really simplified vacuum, it doesn't

1:23:06

seem that hard. And then

1:23:08

you start looking through their dashboards. Yeah. And

1:23:11

then you start looking deeper in their dashboards. Look. And

1:23:14

then it's like, Oh, as someone who worked for

1:23:16

an online retailer who didn't use

1:23:18

Shopify, I will tell you, it's

1:23:23

not better. Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:25

Tertuga said, I have to be

1:23:27

careful with apps. It can get

1:23:30

expensive. So only use what you need while you

1:23:32

grow. I agree. But some of the apps are

1:23:34

also just like straight up free or

1:23:36

genuinely very low cost. And if you if you look

1:23:38

at the pricing model that they have, you can kind

1:23:41

of figure out how expensive it's going to be. I

1:23:43

personally find a lot of the apps to be

1:23:46

actually quite affordable for what they offer. That's

1:23:49

easy for us to say, though, as a

1:23:51

store that is has got revenue every

1:23:53

day. No, like genuinely. I know. Yeah.

1:23:56

But look, if you're just starting out, then I can definitely see

1:23:59

how you could end up. in a trap where you

1:24:01

go, oh, well, I can't possibly have a

1:24:03

site without this and this and this and...

1:24:05

That's almost certainly not true. And you're underwater.

1:24:07

Yeah. Right? You

1:24:09

can start with no apps and you'll be completely fine. Because

1:24:11

if you're a store that's just barely starting out, you probably

1:24:13

don't need some of the fancier things

1:24:15

that you can do with apps. Just wait until you

1:24:17

need it, get it later. But yeah, it's good. It's

1:24:20

very good. Speaking of things, that there's no way that

1:24:22

you can wait until you need. I am about to

1:24:24

drive probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 to 500

1:24:26

float plane subscribers.

1:24:29

Oh, whoa, why? Do you know how I'm gonna do

1:24:31

it? No. I'm gonna tell everyone that

1:24:34

the legendary 100% success

1:24:36

rate chicken recipe is up. That's

1:24:40

right. Luke made

1:24:42

the 100% success chicken

1:24:44

for Arty who said

1:24:47

it's pretty good. Yeah. He also

1:24:50

did a video showing off his burbs. It

1:24:52

was Luke week on float plane. So the

1:24:54

exclusives were all Luke themed. Actually

1:24:57

not. Actually not all Luke themed.

1:24:59

We've also got Emily's video taking

1:25:01

a deeper dive into the prototype

1:25:03

via Centaur AI accelerated CPU. And

1:25:06

I think this is from last

1:25:08

week. So it's mostly, mostly Luke

1:25:10

themed, but he also did his

1:25:12

starfield slash gaming industry rant slash

1:25:14

optimistic chat. Wait, have you

1:25:16

watched it? How did you know that? Well, because

1:25:19

I don't need to watch a

1:25:21

video you host. I know exactly what you're gonna say. That's

1:25:25

pretty funny. I feel like

1:25:27

there's no way he watched it, but then you

1:25:30

accurately described it better than like anyone else has. So I

1:25:33

was like, how does this make any sense? Oh, I read

1:25:35

comments. One of the funny things on it

1:25:37

that makes sense. One of the funny things on that

1:25:39

is, you know, haven't wrote

1:25:41

a video in six or seven years.

1:25:43

Oh yeah. I thought it was gonna

1:25:46

be like nine minutes long. Four minutes.

1:25:48

Oh wow. Very fast. Man, that's

1:25:51

amazing. Get Luke to talk about

1:25:53

starfield and the gaming industry, and he wraps

1:25:55

it up in four minutes and 11 seconds.

1:25:58

Have him talk about his birds. And

1:26:00

it takes them 20 minutes. And there's an extra

1:26:02

like minute and a half long clip that I

1:26:04

added at the end. That's hilarious. Yeah.

1:26:06

And oh yeah and chicken. Chicken also takes 20

1:26:09

minutes. So I made the Starfield video was longer.

1:26:11

I made it shorter because I thought it was

1:26:13

too long. I think what got me was I

1:26:15

mentally compared it to how long the documents were

1:26:18

that I would write for scripts back in the

1:26:20

day. Yeah. And I think like I don't know

1:26:22

font or format or something must have been different.

1:26:25

Like paragraph spacing or font or something. So it ended

1:26:27

up being like half as long. That's hilarious. Because it

1:26:29

was like a page and a half. It's

1:26:31

like how the heck did it come out to four

1:26:34

minutes and 11 seconds. I think it has

1:26:36

some good content in it. But I

1:26:38

don't know. Nickel plane asking the big questions.

1:26:40

What do your birds think of you cooking

1:26:42

other birds? They

1:26:47

don't seem to mind. I eat chicken in

1:26:50

front of them. Yeah. Okay. And that doesn't

1:26:52

bother them effectively every day. Okay. All right.

1:26:54

Don't seem to care. What if you ate

1:26:56

like something more closely related? What if you ate

1:26:58

a cockatiel in front of them? That

1:27:00

might be a bit of an issue. I

1:27:03

might not go over it. Would you eat it raw? Wow.

1:27:06

Like would they recognize like he is eating

1:27:08

a bird? I think so. You think so?

1:27:10

They're pretty. Are they that smart? Like if

1:27:12

you ate a budgie. If you Ozzy Osbourneed

1:27:14

a budgie. I think they would be pretty

1:27:16

upset. Yeah. I

1:27:19

think that would be pretty sure. Dan got the reference. I

1:27:21

know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I just mean that

1:27:23

didn't. Was that actually real? Did that like actually

1:27:25

happen? Oh yeah. The bat? Oh yeah. These

1:27:29

guys are wack job. Guys

1:27:31

are wack job. That's wild.

1:27:35

Yeah. Some people are asking for a stated gaming part

1:27:37

too. I don't know. I feel like I kind of

1:27:39

like owe people another one, but I can't do it

1:27:41

on the same topic because I

1:27:43

made that one really dense, I guess. But

1:27:46

it has basically everything in it. Like the video

1:27:48

is actually fine being as long as it is.

1:27:50

It just doesn't have any filler. Oh.

1:27:53

Apparently Ozzy thought it was a

1:27:56

prop. But he was like so

1:27:58

ripped out of his skull on drugs that He didn't

1:28:00

notice they handed him a live one. Wow.

1:28:03

Uh, kind of brutal actually. We've all been

1:28:06

there. Pretty gross. So that's where

1:28:08

COVID came from. Yeah, this

1:28:10

was a little delayed. It

1:28:16

was just, uh, it was just quarantined in

1:28:18

his system by like all the other wild

1:28:20

things going on in there for 25 years

1:28:22

or however long it was. There was some

1:28:24

jokes that of the Luke week exclusive content,

1:28:27

there was, um, four minutes

1:28:29

of video games and 40 minutes of birds.

1:28:32

Yeah. Because of checking and, and

1:28:34

buddies. I mean, that makes perfect

1:28:36

sense. Uh, all right. Anyway,

1:28:38

yeah. Good week on float plane. Okay, Dan,

1:28:40

want to hit us with another merge message.

1:28:42

Sure. Good evening, LLB. I was interested in

1:28:44

the duvet that was briefly talked about a

1:28:47

year-ish ago. Any updates or has it been

1:28:49

crushed? Um, dead. Yeah.

1:28:51

We actually still have literally a hundred

1:28:53

thousand dollars in alpaca wool. I heard

1:28:55

about this. Yeah. So, um, we do

1:28:58

need to find something. Has any afraid

1:29:00

ideas? Yeah. Do you want an

1:29:02

alpaca? Something? I mean, maybe we should just make

1:29:04

a life size alpaca plush and then just stuff

1:29:06

it with alpaca wool and call it a day.

1:29:08

We did merino underwear. What about alpaca? Underwear? Well,

1:29:10

the problem is that it's loose wool because it

1:29:13

was meant to be used as pillow stuffing. So

1:29:15

we would actually have to get it like machine

1:29:17

it. Yeah. We'd have to get it. Yeah.

1:29:19

I don't know. Yarned. Turned into whatever. Whatever.

1:29:22

Whatever the weaving or process or whatever that

1:29:24

is. You made like whale plushies and then

1:29:26

just made them incredibly expensive because they're filled

1:29:28

with alpaca wool. I mean, it's a possibility.

1:29:30

Yeah. We could do whale plushies. We could

1:29:32

do a, we could do a breadsaurus plushie

1:29:34

and just it's yeah. It's like, sorry, it's

1:29:36

a hundred dollars because it's full of alpaca

1:29:38

wool. Uh, and also

1:29:40

it smells for the first three days because

1:29:43

it's full of alpaca wool. Like I don't

1:29:45

know. I don't know what to do with it. Um,

1:29:49

alpaca edition screwdriver just comes

1:29:51

what, like with, with

1:29:53

just like a bushel of alpaca wool in the

1:29:55

box. Like, I don't know. Yeah.

1:29:58

It's just premium package. It doesn't make the

1:30:00

screwdriver better in any way. Yeah, we've had

1:30:02

it for like three years. Apparently it's been

1:30:04

stored in a dry place So it's like

1:30:06

fine. It should be fine. But we do

1:30:08

really need to just put something on it

1:30:11

Apparently somehow no Yeah,

1:30:14

which surprised me a lot because I

1:30:16

I don't know how much it caught like I don't

1:30:19

know how much wool that is Yeah, but that sounds

1:30:21

like a lot of money to me. And

1:30:23

so Like has

1:30:25

alpaca wool gone up in value like is

1:30:28

this an appreciating asset? Yeah, are you just

1:30:30

trading commodities? This

1:30:34

is one of my largest personal investments do

1:30:36

I need to disclose this Move

1:30:39

over gold we yeah, we've got

1:30:42

animal We're

1:30:44

gonna put option puts on alpaca Pack

1:30:48

a fiber market. Oh, no. Hold

1:30:50

on. I'm just I'm just checking. What are the what are

1:30:52

the trends? Increasing popularity

1:30:55

in the fashion apparel industry got

1:30:57

pork futures Show

1:31:00

me crazy. Show me a graph. Show me

1:31:02

a graph. I need a graph needs to

1:31:04

short Linus's alpaca wool Not

1:31:07

financial advice gamma squeeze

1:31:09

it Okay, you don't

1:31:11

have to spend that much relax. I Don't

1:31:15

want an alpaca wool hat. No, I don't

1:31:17

think anyone wants that. Okay. Here's

1:31:19

the market size I

1:31:21

don't know what we have but I suspect it's somewhere

1:31:23

in the medium range. I don't think

1:31:26

it's particularly fine

1:31:28

fibers Where's show me

1:31:30

the price show me the bloody price? Okay, I give

1:31:32

up that was as much time as I'm willing to

1:31:34

invest into That right now All

1:31:39

right, hit me Dan hey when crew

1:31:41

I'm in the process of joining the

1:31:44

US Navy to be a cyber warfare

1:31:46

Technician did y'all ever think

1:31:48

about doing some kind of cyber tech

1:31:51

work in the military or government space

1:31:53

big fan I think

1:31:55

I've thought about doing everything one

1:31:57

could imagine. So I don't know how fair it

1:31:59

is to say How'd you end up here? mostly

1:32:03

accident I Was

1:32:06

just like up late and saw this video and was

1:32:08

like oh, I'll do that Let me let

1:32:10

me put my computer on this railway You

1:32:15

tell me how that works man Yeah,

1:32:20

I don't know it's like sounds I think I

1:32:22

think for a lot of people myself included It

1:32:24

sounds really cool, and then you start doing stuff

1:32:26

in that space, and you're like whoa. This is

1:32:28

really hard right so

1:32:33

Yeah, as for me. No. No I

1:32:37

Just really like computers Yep,

1:32:41

and My my career path

1:32:43

had already diverged. They wouldn't let me

1:32:45

be a technician at NCIX ever tell

1:32:47

you that No So

1:32:50

it wasn't because of lack of certification or anything

1:32:52

like that it was I wasn't the most experienced

1:32:54

That's fine I could see how they could be

1:32:56

concerned about the optics of that but it had

1:32:58

nothing to do with skill level I

1:33:01

was just too good at selling. Oh They

1:33:03

wanted me in the front I was like I Would

1:33:05

like to I would like to just work in the back So

1:33:07

I would just I would just hang out in the back and

1:33:09

talk to the to the tech at the Langley stores Name was

1:33:11

Andrew. He was sick. Yeah guy was awesome.

1:33:14

He was like he was one of those guys that

1:33:16

just like it well Computer

1:33:19

tech just zero f*** given I

1:33:21

think I remember this dude. Yeah super nice guy It's

1:33:25

kind of ginger I Recall

1:33:27

correctly. No, I heard so

1:33:30

I didn't require his services But

1:33:33

I would like stand there waiting to pick up one of my orders

1:33:35

or whatever in the text would come out and work with People and

1:33:37

I remember just like listening in yeah, but it was still he's awesome

1:33:40

Anyway, yeah, they wouldn't they they they wouldn't

1:33:42

let me Just let's go back

1:33:44

there and hang out with them And the only reason that no

1:33:46

one would get mad at me for it was cuz like my

1:33:48

sales were higher than anyone else in The store anyway in spite

1:33:50

of the fact that I was just like shooting the breeze with

1:33:52

the technician A lot of the

1:33:54

time cuz realistically

1:33:57

everything I was talking about was kind of

1:33:59

on task, right? Like honestly, how

1:34:01

much better would Best Buy be? Okay,

1:34:04

let's not use Best Buy as an example. How

1:34:06

much better would your local computer store be if

1:34:08

the sales reps spent a tenth of Their time

1:34:10

just talking to the technicians Yeah,

1:34:16

yeah probably I mean the the

1:34:19

I'm gonna use Best Buy anyways the Best Buy that I

1:34:22

used to work at our Computer

1:34:24

sales crew and our geek squad crew when

1:34:26

I worked they were actually pretty well linked

1:34:28

and we did super well And

1:34:31

I think it made sense. Yeah, the team was like all

1:34:33

quite competent No, it makes it makes a ton of sense

1:34:35

because otherwise how you gonna know what to sell unless you

1:34:37

know what comes back Yeah, our store

1:34:39

was like one of the worst in Canada or something

1:34:42

and by the time we were done we were like

1:34:44

number one or number two in Canada and

1:34:46

I we had a just fairly significant roster

1:34:48

change and And everybody

1:34:50

was just real into it And it's it's a lot easier

1:34:52

to sell things when you like know what you're talking about

1:34:54

and are passionate Yeah, because most people

1:34:57

are like, okay cool I hear what you're

1:34:59

saying everything that you're saying makes sense You

1:35:01

have me interested in this thing because listening

1:35:03

to passionate people is just interesting for most

1:35:05

people exactly Yeah, it works

1:35:09

All right We want to

1:35:11

do for a topic Do

1:35:13

we want to pick a oh you want to do

1:35:16

sponsors dang it Daniel. They deserve a topic. Yeah topic.

1:35:18

Yeah Dan gosh

1:35:22

How about meta says no more spam unless

1:35:25

it's AI spam? Okay. Yeah, I don't know

1:35:27

what the heck's going All right meta says

1:35:29

that they will be changing the recommendation algorithm

1:35:32

for Instagram and threads So

1:35:34

that they will no longer recommend reposts and

1:35:36

ripped off content which the company says will

1:35:38

give more visibility to creators of original content

1:35:40

and when you Listen to

1:35:42

people who actually liked Facebook at

1:35:44

some point talk about Facebook and

1:35:47

its decline What they talk

1:35:49

about I've found more than anything else is

1:35:52

Missing the days when it was actual updates

1:35:54

from people. They are first

1:35:56

first order Connected to

1:35:58

single degree of separation connected to

1:36:00

and interacting

1:36:03

with those people and it's just

1:36:05

kind of turned into just an

1:36:07

endless doom-scrolling pile of content farm

1:36:09

you know video crap and reposts

1:36:11

of stolen memes and all that

1:36:13

kind of stuff so I don't

1:36:16

see anything in here about Facebook

1:36:18

no okay we'll get to that in a second

1:36:21

these platforms will also add labels to reposted

1:36:23

content with a link back to the original

1:36:25

creator that is super cool and that should

1:36:27

just be kind of standard practice I kind

1:36:29

of that this will not

1:36:31

apply to content that has been significantly altered

1:36:33

however like a work that is edited into

1:36:36

a meme or given a new voiceover meanwhile

1:36:39

it has become significantly

1:36:41

harder to find original artist content

1:36:43

on Facebook as the platform has

1:36:46

become flooded with unmarked AI content

1:36:48

much of which is bizarrely Jesus

1:36:50

themed meta platforms

1:36:53

are likewise being flooded with tons

1:36:55

of ads for an SWA I

1:36:57

girlfriends against metas own policies according

1:37:00

to wired at least 29,000 of

1:37:02

these sexually suggestive ads have been published on

1:37:04

meta platforms metas own

1:37:07

AI has been acting oddly on

1:37:09

Facebook making weird unsolicited comments on

1:37:11

posts including one incident where it

1:37:13

commented on a parenting group claiming

1:37:15

to have a disabled yet gifted

1:37:17

child that has also added the

1:37:19

AI chatbot to Instagram search making

1:37:21

it difficult to avoid interacting with

1:37:24

these features I did notice that

1:37:26

actually anyway I want to I

1:37:28

just want to show you guys

1:37:30

a couple of examples of this

1:37:32

weird oddly Jesus themed AI artwork

1:37:35

here's one made

1:37:37

it with my own hands thanks

1:37:40

to everyone who appreciates this and this is

1:37:42

from account love God and God love you

1:37:44

what the what

1:37:48

what am I looking at here and

1:37:50

why does this have 46,000 interactions yeah

1:37:54

how much of this is bought

1:37:56

activity 6,000 interactions but only 500

1:37:58

comments well no that's an okay rate Yeah,

1:38:00

because an interaction on Facebook is

1:38:02

so low friction. This

1:38:05

may legitimately be actual people that

1:38:07

are like, yes, shrimp Jesus. Well,

1:38:10

the next one, the next one has

1:38:12

185,000 interactions. From

1:38:15

Love Father and Mother, bless you, made

1:38:17

it with my own hands. Thanks to everyone

1:38:19

who appreciates this. They made

1:38:21

it with my own hands thing. And both of these accounts,

1:38:24

after the Ambersands, they don't have a space. I think this

1:38:26

is the same thing. Oh, yeah. Wow.

1:38:29

No problem. No problem. No

1:38:31

problem. You played Spot the AI.

1:38:33

You won. No, I mean, I think it's

1:38:36

literally the same person behind it. Yeah, yeah,

1:38:38

yeah. But I don't think an AI would

1:38:40

just not put a space in the name.

1:38:42

I think somebody actually just named this themselves.

1:38:45

Yeah, that could be. And it's just AI generating photos. Yeah,

1:38:47

that could very well be, because I mean,

1:38:50

yeah, there's probably tools to like mass create

1:38:52

accounts. But surely you would have to approve.

1:38:56

I don't think this is

1:38:58

one of those mistakes that an AI would even make.

1:39:01

It would put a space after the Ambersand. You

1:39:03

know, that's something I've started noticing a lot lately,

1:39:05

is like when something is bad, it

1:39:08

almost makes me feel like... Oh,

1:39:12

this is real. Yeah.

1:39:16

Because there's just absolutely no reason to

1:39:18

make an error like that anymore. Yeah,

1:39:21

exactly. I'm like, why

1:39:23

did it happen twice? Yeah, the big question

1:39:25

here though is who's the sniper? What?

1:39:33

What do they have against Jesus? I'm

1:39:35

sure that's just the AI not really understanding that that's

1:39:37

actually like supposed to be a window or something. And

1:39:40

it's just like, oh, sure, why not? We'll put that

1:39:42

there. I don't know. Our discussion

1:39:45

question is how big of a threat is out of

1:39:47

control spam for companies like that? Oh,

1:39:50

enormous. I'm going to put that on a

1:39:52

second because it's not like the lowest common

1:39:54

denominator that are unironically interacting with this stuff

1:39:56

can even tell the difference. So why does

1:39:58

it matter? for their

1:40:00

user base. What difference does it make? Yeah, but I think

1:40:02

the whole, what is it, is the, Daniel

1:40:05

knows it, fake internet theory? What is it? Dead

1:40:08

internet theory. Dead internet theory? Or dead mall. Oh,

1:40:11

this is hilarious. Okay, no, this totally makes sense.

1:40:13

Yeah, floatplane chat figured it out. It's, it's

1:40:17

adapted for modern times. He didn't get crucified.

1:40:20

It was firing squad. But

1:40:23

that's what they're representing. Thankful,

1:40:28

floatplane chat. You guys got this sorted out. To

1:40:31

be clear, to be, to be clear, to

1:40:33

be clear, okay? Regardless

1:40:35

of, regardless of alignment, this kind of

1:40:37

thing is obviously ridiculous. And that's the

1:40:39

reason that I'm making light of it,

1:40:42

because it's clearly silly. This

1:40:45

poor man. I know. Is

1:40:47

it hard? Sometimes. Is

1:40:50

it hard? It's usually fine, but sometimes.

1:40:52

Is it hard, Luke? Right

1:40:54

now. I don't

1:40:56

know. Why

1:40:59

did the right now make me understand? I

1:41:01

don't know. Made

1:41:05

you think about it. This is bad though.

1:41:08

Like Twitter is, is just overran by bots.

1:41:10

Oh my. It's actually

1:41:12