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What is up, everyone, and welcome to the WAN

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Show. We got a lot of great topics to go through

0:09

today. I cannot

0:11

believe how quickly

0:13

dark viper a u.

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Sorry if I'm pronouncing that wrong. Dark

0:18

viper responded to our

0:20

plans to make a reaction channel,

0:22

but he did. So

0:25

we'll be talking about

0:27

that.

0:27

Let's react to that. We're also gonna be talking about

0:29

perfectly good two year old MacBooks.

0:32

Okay. was I was with you perfectly good

0:35

up until I don't know. Okay.

0:37

So they're for MacBooks, they're perfectly

0:39

good and are apparently being scrapped

0:41

because of activation lock. Okay. And

0:44

all seriousness though, yes, MacBooks are perfectly good

0:46

if they're two years old, and that's a bad

0:48

thing. But it's also a bit more complicated than

0:50

that. What else we got today? You know,

0:52

stuff. The cnet issues, mass corrections

0:55

for AI written articles. Mhmm. Mask

0:57

is actually hilarious. Exactly. It's

0:59

like really funny. Yeah. And

1:01

and what else do we

1:02

do? What else do we do? Linus

1:04

talks about washing his butt. Really?

1:07

Yeah. Why not? Seriously, you don't 27 do public

1:09

back flash against Microsoft for reducing

1:11

gamers power bills, it's pretty

1:13

funny. So I

1:13

don't even understand.

1:15

It's actually hilarious.

1:17

Okay. Because I don't get it.

1:18

Yeah. You you won't get it and, you know, don't

1:20

read it now then. Let me let me tell

1:22

let me tell you about

1:23

it. Alright. Oh, we have a fun new segment

1:25

to introduce this week. It's going

1:27

to be called Original Sauce.

1:37

I don't know what we understand at all. Alright.

1:51

Let's get this party started.

1:56

I am going to get right out ahead

1:58

of this and say I meant to

2:00

watch Dark Viper's video, but I actually

2:02

haven't. I did see

2:04

that it went up. I actually read the vast

2:07

majority of the comments on it because that's how

2:09

I consume

2:09

YouTube. I don't

2:10

That is true.

2:11

That this is true. I don't watch me. I

2:13

just read the comments on that. I've

2:15

I've watched this happen. I didn't really believe

2:17

it the first time he told me. This is actually

2:20

true though. You can

2:22

actually get you can you can

2:24

get a d okay. Man.

2:27

We're we're going off the rails here. We're going off the rails

2:29

already. I would make the argument,

2:31

and this is gonna be a controversial take. It

2:34

sure is. I would make the argument

2:36

that you can actually get a deeper

2:38

understanding of a video based

2:40

on reading. I think I'm not I'm not

2:42

talking if you read like four comments. I'm

2:44

talking a video that has a

2:46

lot of interaction. You read several comments

2:49

on it. Okay? I am arguing

2:51

that you can get a deeper understanding of

2:54

a, what was discussed and b,

2:57

the greater context of it by reading

2:59

the comments under a video versus actually

3:01

watching the video. People

3:03

should try this. With that said,

3:05

I did make sure someone watched it.

3:08

So I had her new when show writer

3:10

watch it. And summarize it, and

3:12

I will be responding. So

3:15

after last week's discussion of a

3:17

future line of media group reaction

3:20

channel, GTA lets player

3:22

and commentator Dark Viper

3:24

responded with a video essay

3:26

entitled, Is it even possible

3:28

for reaction content to be ethical.

3:30

Because if you guys remember last week, that

3:32

was one of the sort

3:34

of guidelines that I laid out for

3:37

what exactly our reaction content

3:39

could look like. Dark

3:41

Viper praised my desire apparently.

3:43

I didn't watch the video, but this

3:46

is evidently true 27 make

3:48

ethical reaction content, but

3:50

he claims that reaction content

3:52

fundamentally cannot

3:55

be ethical and questions

3:57

the impact of a channel as large as LTT

3:59

embracing it. Do we want to get to the end before

4:01

we comment? No. I think we can start commenting

4:04

now because -- Okay. -- step one is fire

4:06

on that. And I saw a lot of this in the

4:08

comments as well. Which

4:10

is how I processed the video because

4:12

I'm a reader, not a video

4:14

watcher. First

4:17

of all, there are a lot, man.

4:19

And it's not just this. Like, you know,

4:22

whether it's when people feel like we're

4:24

not calling out a manufacturer hard enough

4:26

for their pricing or

4:28

or whatever else it is, people seem

4:30

to really overestimate the amount

4:32

of sway that I have. I

4:36

do not have the kind of power

4:38

that people seem to think I have. Like,

4:40

we we are we are a substantial

4:43

player in the YouTube space. Won't

4:45

deny that. I mean, I get my invitation

4:47

to talk creator summit or creator summit

4:49

or whatever they whatever they call it now.

4:51

And, you know, there's some I

4:53

I look around. I'm like, whoa. Okay. I am

4:56

rubbing elbows with some pretty pretty

4:58

big online creators.

5:00

Apparently, I they think I belong here. So that's

5:02

cool. Right? You know, obviously, we're

5:04

not we're not tiny little minos

5:06

in in the in the ocean that is

5:08

27. But I do

5:11

not single handedly have the power

5:13

to make or break

5:15

a a style of content. I think that might be so

5:18

some things. Reactions some

5:20

context here. I think that might be a

5:22

category thing. If you are someone who

5:24

consumes a lot of gaming slash tech

5:26

stuff, -- Right. Your

5:29

game's gonna be all over everything. So

5:31

the the the perception might be an

5:33

increased amount. You know what I mean?

5:35

I see. Other thing is dark

5:38

viper. K. At

5:40

least some degree likes the channel.

5:43

Okay. Has worn

5:45

LTT shirts in videos before.

5:47

Sure. So within

5:50

his specific bubble might be big

5:52

as well. And then another thing is,

5:54

sure. I think just as much as the statement

5:56

that you said might be correct, I

5:58

think at the exact same time,

6:00

in the exact same realm, the

6:02

idea that you underestimate

6:05

is probably also true. Because

6:08

an aspect that I I would bring

6:10

up here is about the cannot possibly be ethical

6:12

thing, I saw that kind of frowned

6:14

for a second. I was like, how can that be?

6:16

That doesn't make because we talked about how you

6:18

could just you would ask people

6:19

first.

6:20

Right? You could

6:20

get approval first. Sure. Is

6:23

that

6:23

So you're gonna talk about the power imbalance.

6:25

Yes. I see. Because

6:27

if it's a small channel, they might not wanna

6:29

piss you off. I see. Okay.

6:34

I have been guilty of not

6:37

considering that aspect of things before.

6:41

It's it's a It's

6:42

a tough and annoying thing to consider.

6:45

Yeah. I mean, it's tough. It's really tough

6:47

because from my point of view, when

6:49

I was a smaller channel,

6:51

yes, there were times when I

6:55

definitely bent over backwards to

6:57

do something for a larger

6:59

channel. But There were

7:01

also times when I just

7:03

either directly, usually

7:06

not directly, but would

7:08

just kind of blow off. A

7:10

larger channel and just say, yeah, maybe

7:12

someday, and then just kind of, you know, passive

7:14

aggressively never reply. Like, I I never

7:16

really struggled with saying no. Yeah.

7:19

But some people might I

7:21

can see how some people

7:23

might. But again,

7:26

I have to come back to this. I

7:29

don't have the kind of power you might

7:31

think that I do. Like,

7:33

whatever negative consequences.

7:36

You might feel I could somehow

7:40

bestow whatever a negative bestow is.

7:43

Inflict upon you. Yeah.

7:45

That's a better word. Whatever you think I

7:47

could do to you, I probably can't.

7:50

Like and and I've

7:51

again, I've been told this before, like, yeah, if

7:53

you're a small channel, like, line is

7:55

dumping on you. Look at destroying your

7:57

channel. Fear might be there, though. Regardless,

8:00

of the possibility. The fear might still

8:02

be

8:02

real. Yeah. But but but but but but

8:04

but but but but

8:07

but I can't do anything about

8:08

that. I can't do anything

8:11

about people's fear. All I can do

8:13

is tell you that And full transparency,

8:15

I haven't watched it either. So I don't know if you brought up this

8:17

argument, but Wow.

8:19

I don't remember -- Most professional. -- most

8:22

professional podcast. Way, we're doing what

8:24

do you want it?

8:24

Way, sure. We're not here.

8:27

Yeah. We're not only not gonna

8:29

play your content on the show. We're

8:31

not even gonna watch it.

8:36

We're just we're

8:39

generally just taking from the comments. Okay?

8:41

Okay. No. This is a really good point

8:43

from Jony b over on float

8:45

plane

8:45

chat. Realistically, if I dunk on

8:47

a small channel, the backlash You're

8:49

gonna look like you needed it. You're gonna look like

8:51

a asshole. And

8:54

it's true. Like, even

8:56

times when we didn't even do anything,

8:58

like remember when

9:00

remember when content ID got

9:02

enabled for the channel through our MCN.

9:05

And what happened was there were some

9:07

smaller channels that were getting

9:10

screen capture of Unigin

9:12

heaven benchmark. Identified

9:14

by content ID, and then

9:16

their videos were getting, like, claimed for

9:18

monetization by us. The

9:20

the immediate reaction

9:22

without anybody even asking us,

9:25

even these content creators, nobody

9:27

took a second to ask, hey, is

9:29

this on purpose? Or is

9:31

this a bug? It was

9:34

incredible. It was incredible

9:36

how quickly I was vilified. And

9:38

I was like, I had

9:40

no idea. And

9:42

I will immediately upon

9:44

becoming aware of this, do absolutely

9:46

everything in my power to make it right.

9:48

But, like, Put down the pitch

9:50

for

9:50

x, please.

9:50

Like, there is

9:53

no way with the number of times that I've

9:55

been burned by even the perception

9:58

that I would do something, anti

10:00

community, anti other

10:02

creators or whatever it

10:04

is. III wouldn't even I

10:06

wouldn't even start to touch it.

10:08

And so I just I

10:10

mean, I've made mistake I mean, there was

10:12

that time I made the silly voice

10:14

for our Pokemon's take on

10:16

something. I I didn't even remember what it was. It doesn't

10:18

matter anymore. Like, I I certainly

10:20

make mistakes, but

10:22

I mean Oh,

10:25

yeah. No. No. No, man. I I can't do

10:27

anything to you. If you're a smaller

10:29

creator, you gotta remember too, like, you're

10:31

punching up. Like, I'm a

10:33

jerk if I if I go toe to toe

10:35

with you at this point. So

10:39

anyway, Dark

10:41

Viper. Dark Viper

10:43

argues that the prolific Oh, you know what? No. I

10:45

haven't finished addressing that. So yeah,

10:47

the the the potential for people to

10:49

just feel like they're being pressured or

10:51

coerced into a green,

10:53

that's valid. We would have to find some

10:55

way to address that. I don't have any

10:57

immediate ideas. I mean, one

10:59

thing is you could just reach out

11:01

proactively with some kind of

11:03

offer. And this would be tough because YouTube

11:06

doesn't have a mechanism. I mean, maybe this is

11:08

something I can pitch. That's a power I have. I

11:10

can pitch ideas to YouTube. But

11:13

maybe this is something I can pitch. It's like, hey,

11:15

you guys already a suggestion? Well,

11:18

no, not not even that. Like, I'm

11:20

talking more along the lines some kind of like a revenue

11:22

share. Like, hey, you guys already

11:24

have the ability to tag

11:26

a collaborating creator. Well,

11:29

what if you could just deepen

11:32

that capability and you

11:34

could tag a collaborating

11:36

creator for revenue

11:38

share. That'd

11:38

be really interesting, actually. It might be

11:41

difficult because people being in,

11:43

like, different jurisdictions, for example.

11:46

That might not even have the same

11:48

ad suitability for eligibility.

11:50

Right? So it might play an

11:52

ad that is not even eligible for

11:54

monetization in that in that

11:56

jurisdiction. Right? It might be knowing

11:58

and they might not be willing to do it because

12:00

of that but it might be one of those

12:02

situations where just only certain

12:04

zones can collaborate with other

12:05

ones. But

12:07

that's like that's that's That

12:08

sucks. Right? That's

12:09

Yeah. That's why I said they might not make it Yeah. See, that's

12:11

not that's not a creator centric

12:13

approach. I mean, I would say that even if there's some

12:15

limitations, it would be better for us to

12:17

say, hey, in in

12:19

the interest of, you know,

12:21

a fair play, we really

12:24

would like you to do your best to

12:26

kind of divvy it up eighty

12:28

ten ten according to,

12:30

you know, how much of the their source

12:32

content that that we used. I mean, that

12:34

way, I think there's a there's a

12:36

very strong argument to be made that

12:39

while you should still stay

12:41

well within the the guidelines or

12:43

pillars of fair use, at least

12:46

then if you, you

12:49

know, stray a little bit over the line or at least

12:51

then if you have an agreement with them, you can kind of say,

12:53

well, everyone got paid. So

12:55

cool. So that that would be that

12:57

would be one way to take care of it.

12:59

And for those of you who are who are

13:01

gonna propose that, you know, maybe we just

13:03

like issue checks or what I can tell you right

13:05

now. The admin on this would

13:07

absolutely destroy it. We basically just

13:09

never react to anything. I'd be like, no.

13:11

It, like, Ivan's

13:14

wrist would be too tired to

13:16

do much more important things if she had to

13:18

sign that many

13:18

checks. Yep.

13:20

Significantly more important things.

13:24

So Dark

13:26

Viper argues that the proliferation of parasitic

13:29

reaction content such as certain kinds

13:31

of live streaming has negatively impacted

13:34

creators of original content and

13:36

has pushed more creators to also

13:38

make reaction content I

13:41

mean, yeah. I I was I

13:43

feel like I was completely transparent with the

13:45

community last week. I I said, look, this is

13:47

the lowest hanging possible

13:49

fruit. Like, it it

13:51

it boggles my mind. It's it's

13:53

one of those genres that I don't

13:55

personally consume.

13:57

I don't personally get

13:59

it, but I

14:01

can't ignore the appeal. People

14:05

want it. Like, do you know how

14:07

hard? Jake in particular has

14:09

been a champion of React

14:11

content here. Whether it's

14:13

Actually, I I think it was it would remind us react

14:15

to mean comments was a James initiative

14:17

more than Jake. But

14:21

both of them, you're even dropping

14:23

fake GPUs. I mean, this one's

14:25

safe at least. Yeah. But both of

14:27

them have pushed

14:27

hard. Like, we'll have a week when we're kinda

14:30

sitting there going, oh, man. Are really gonna struggle to

14:32

hit quota this week and they're like,

14:34

dude, do the easy to just

14:36

react. We have had an

14:38

issue for a long time. Yeah. This

14:40

is completely ignoring the React

14:42

content thing just for a second. It

14:44

it touches on this, but -- Yeah. -- we have had

14:46

an issue for a very long time of

14:48

just a roof using to take easy

14:50

winds. And if

14:52

if we're like, hey, that project sounds

14:54

not difficult and also

14:56

highly profitable. The answer is just like,

14:59

no. We need to

15:01

find the more difficult

15:02

project, which has a less likeliness. No.

15:04

It's not that. It's not that. I'm

15:06

obviously exaggerating. There

15:07

are other reasons

15:08

But there has been some of that. The reason

15:10

is that I find it boring.

15:13

And I find it lazy and I don't

15:15

respect

15:15

it. Like

15:16

that's then why are

15:17

you doing a reaction? Because

15:19

we're running a business here. 27 have

15:22

a hundred people to support. Yeah. And

15:24

this is the same reason why we used to

15:26

argue to take

15:27

the low hanging fruit. It's the

15:29

exact same argument. Matthew, you're

15:31

on our side

15:32

now. I always to be

15:34

fair, it wasn't always react content or if it

15:36

was react content. That

15:38

was where we get into it. It wasn't reacting

15:40

to other people's generated video

15:43

content. Sure. It was reacting to

15:45

user comments or whatever

15:46

else. But

15:50

yeah. I mean,

15:53

it's one the like, Sticking

15:57

with what I like has

15:59

been a winning strategy for this channel

16:01

for like fourteen

16:02

years. When I get bored of

16:04

something and I get bored of things like

16:06

real

16:06

quick styles, other people are likely

16:08

getting bored of it as well.

16:09

They might not even realize they're getting bored

16:11

of it yet. And if I move on,

16:13

it's like it's classic showbiz.

16:17

Always leave them wanting more. Yeah. If

16:19

I move on before

16:21

you guys get a chance to

16:22

go, oh, I really wish they'd like --

16:23

Move on from -- you don't wanna make sense

16:26

next season of the TV show. If

16:28

the next season of TV show is gonna be crap and

16:30

everyone's gonna remember that show

16:32

as ending really

16:32

poorly. Yeah. It's it's Game of Thrones. Yeah.

16:35

Game of Thrones right there. Right? As much as

16:37

it sucks, you would rather firefly

16:39

than Game of Thrones. And

16:42

27 soon. And the thing is that

16:44

-- Yeah. -- and the thing is that, like,

16:48

it's not wrong of me to trust

16:50

that. And say, look, I feel

16:52

like this is I feel like this is

16:54

cheap. I feel like it cheapens the

16:56

brand. I feel like it looks low effort. I

16:58

feel like it does this. I feel like it does that.

17:00

You know what? I've ended up being wrong in some

17:02

of those cases. No. The consumer was not

17:05

savvy enough to recognize that this is low

17:07

effort garbage and they want more low

17:09

effort garbage to

17:09

get, hey, fine. I'll give it to them. Or they want 27. I mean,

17:11

we figured that out with with video

17:13

quality. Right? Bone Like hair.

17:16

But what's critical? What's absolutely critical

17:18

and what I will never back down from

17:20

is that for every

17:23

upload that you do, that is like low

17:25

effort. Like, okay. For example,

17:27

we uploaded a tier

17:30

list for the first time or not uploaded. We

17:32

recorded a tier For

17:34

the first time ever, right in the lead up

17:36

to the land show

17:37

today. Okay.

17:38

Yeah. I don't even know what it is. So we did we did

17:40

GPU tiers over twenty

17:43

years. Okay. Yep. For

17:45

every one of those you upload,

17:47

you have to upload something

17:49

original and thoughtful and

17:51

compelling, or or multiple things that

17:54

are original, thoughtful, and Oh, it's

17:55

still open exclusive right now? No. No. It's gonna go

17:57

up on YouTube. It's just not a Yeah.

17:59

It's recorded, but it's not actually Understood.

18:02

Yeah. So it's just like ranking

18:05

GPU generations. So first of all, we

18:07

put way more effort into it than

18:09

some people

18:09

would. Like, it's not just live

18:12

reactions too. It's like reasons

18:13

why, stuff like Yeah. We had someone working researching it for, like,

18:15

a few days. And then I sat down and

18:17

I did a marathon, like, two and a half

18:20

hour script review where we fact checked things

18:22

and I added some of my own

18:24

that I remembered and and all that kind of stuff. Like, it's a really

18:26

good video. Okay. So that's

18:28

not a good example. But if we were

18:31

gonna 27 if we were gonna do some kind of low

18:33

effort, low hanging fruit content,

18:35

there has to be a reason that

18:37

people care about your two

18:40

cents on reacting to

18:42

this or, you know,

18:44

unboxing that or whatever the

18:46

case may be. And so that's something that

18:48

I lab not be backing down on. And

18:50

if anything, we are quadrupling

18:52

down on because that's a big part of

18:54

what the lab is gonna do. So when

18:56

Jake and I do a silly vlog,

18:58

like, you know, swapping out a

19:01

couch or something, you know, in a theater

19:03

room. Right? When we also

19:05

are like, hey, and we're

19:07

gonna change out the projector screen and the projector because

19:10

the lab tested it

19:12

and these are, like, the best bang for

19:14

the buck or they're the, like, just,

19:17

like, s tierist projector

19:19

and screen or whatever else, you're gonna

19:21

be able to trust that our low

19:23

effort content and our and our low

19:25

hanging fruit opinions are going to be

19:28

backed by by data, by

19:30

by due diligence. That's what we're trying to build

19:32

ourselves toward. So we just have to

19:34

be careful not to

19:37

see that those view

19:39

numbers and kinda go well, this

19:41

gravy train will go forever because

19:43

I've seen and I'm not gonna name any names. I

19:45

don't feel like it. It's just not worth it. But

19:47

I've seen large

19:50

very reaction focused channels

19:52

that used to do a lot of challenges

19:54

or a lot of, like, comedy

19:56

stuff and then just saw

19:58

how well reactions performed

20:01

and then went to straight reactions, I've seen

20:03

them just nose dive.

20:06

I've also seen them do

20:08

the opposite. Yes. Yes.

20:10

This is true. But I don't think anyone would

20:12

watch Beast React without the main

20:14

Mister Beast channel. I just

20:16

don't think they would. Why should I care

20:19

what this guy with like a weird

20:21

mustache

20:21

thing? Never watched any of it,

20:22

so I have no idea.

20:24

Well, it's just him but reacting. And they game a

20:26

fight a little bit. They they they always find ways

20:28

to innovate those

20:29

guys. But why would I watch this?

20:32

If I didn't know who mister beast was. Well, there's

20:34

there's channels that are entirely based

20:36

around just reacting, and they basically have

20:38

only ever been that way. So, like,

20:41

Yes.

20:41

But Really, it can work for some people. Let me get

20:42

back into the argument we had last week about what

20:45

reaction is. Like, I would argue that something like

20:47

good mythical morning is heavily

20:49

reaction based. In fact, you've

20:51

probably heard me make the argument. Actually, I

20:53

don't know if you've ever heard me say this. This is something I

20:55

say to the new writers a lot. Basically,

20:57

eighty to ninety percent of YouTube is

21:00

reaction

21:00

videos. I haven't heard of these videos.

21:02

I define it extremely broadly.

21:05

And the reason for that is

21:07

that it puts them

21:09

in the right frame of mind

21:11

to write a video for a

21:13

YouTube viewer 27 a YouTube viewer

21:16

is not the same as a TV viewer. Okay.

21:18

I think I see where you're going. Okay. And

21:20

so the reason that I would

21:22

define YouTube viewers and

21:24

the way that I the reason that I or

21:26

the reason that I would categorize YouTube

21:28

viewers differently 27 the reason that I would

21:31

say that most YouTube

21:33

videos are reactions is

21:35

right in the name of the site. Right?

21:37

27. That was the whole point. The

21:40

whole point was real people. So

21:43

no matter what it is, maybe it's

21:45

a review. My

21:47

review of a new GPU is

21:50

fundamentally a reaction video. I am

21:52

reacting to it. You only

21:54

care because you care what I think.

21:56

That's the whole point.

21:59

And only super produced, super

22:01

sterile, like corporate run

22:03

channels are not reactions.

22:05

So whether it's unboxing kinder

22:09

surprises or whether it's, you

22:11

know, playing with some

22:13

toy or, yeah, like, whatever

22:15

whatever it

22:16

is, whether it's like, you

22:17

know, man, I'd

22:20

say, like, maybe maybe

22:22

tutorials would be a category that

22:25

that does not qualify as a reaction

22:26

video, but

22:28

I would also say that

22:30

many tutorial videos are going to

22:32

inherently include the people want that

22:34

personality. And if you aren't reacting,

22:37

you're basically you're a stiff

22:40

out

22:40

there. I think this is a one

22:42

word 27 definition scenario though. Sure.

22:46

Because you're using the

22:48

word correctly. But you're not using the

22:50

word correctly in the way that modern

22:52

content creators are using the

22:53

word. That's and I think they're

22:55

both using it just like in different ways.

22:58

Sure.

22:58

But, yeah, that

23:00

makes sense. That's a interesting way to frame

23:02

it. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, Dark

23:04

Viper's point that The proliferation of

23:07

React content has pushed more creators

23:09

to also make it yeah.

23:11

Sure. Hundred percent. Sure. No doubt.

23:13

Doctor wiper calls for linus and other creators considering reaction

23:15

channels to not only find a way to limit

23:17

harm, but also to but to always create something

23:19

to transform me. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. So

23:22

way ahead of you. Definitely,

23:25

because I I feel like at

23:27

some point, if all you

23:30

do is just create

23:32

derivative works. It hurts

23:35

the brand. Right? It won't be seen as

23:37

an innovator like I I

23:39

think I think that one of the reasons

23:41

that people seem to feel like I have this

23:43

outsized impact on the platform or on

23:45

other

23:45

creators, is because we have gone out of our

23:47

way to do things our own way.

23:49

For better or for worse. We've reinvented a

23:52

lot of wheels. Which sometimes people

23:54

have copied and whatnot. Yeah. Which some

23:56

and which sometimes have crashed and burned and thankfully

23:58

nobody copied. Yeah. Right? But

24:01

I feel like we do have

24:03

a reputation for doing our

24:06

own thing, which is which is

24:08

good. And no, this is not this is

24:10

not going to to harm

24:12

that. Third

24:12

nerds up in Canada. Yeah. Dark

24:14

VIPER further argues that LMG did not make

24:16

this decision to highlight small creators. It's a

24:18

business decision potentially very

24:19

profitable, and I mean, I was transparent that

24:21

as well. So I don't really know

24:22

what the point of

24:23

bringing that up is, yes. I mean, it was

24:25

a business decision. Again, very clear. You didn't watch

24:28

the video neither did I. You might not say it

24:30

that way. Right. Okay. Fair

24:32

enough.

24:33

But, like, yes. Yes.

24:36

Correct. Yep. However

24:39

however, In order to make

24:41

ethical reaction videos, we did talk

24:43

about the necessity of highlighting smaller

24:45

creators. And there have been video

24:47

concepts that have been pitched internally

24:49

that have existed solely

24:51

for that reason. One that we've

24:53

started a couple of times and then

24:56

just we've gotten busy or like the writers

24:58

gotten bogged down or else whatever else. So it's not

25:00

on purpose that we never completed it, but one

25:02

was like a like a small creator

25:04

showcase one. I think James got as

25:06

far as like

25:09

getting, like, twenty on a list and then he

25:11

wanted to pair it down to, like, six or

25:13

something like that and then wanted to, like, really watch a

25:15

lot of the content so we could highlight

25:17

of, like, really great things they did. And so I think it was one

25:19

of those ones where he just got a little

25:21

too ambitious and it didn't make it across the finish line.

25:24

But, I mean, it is

25:26

something that we do consider Even

25:28

if no, you're right. It wasn't the the primary

25:30

motivation for creating a react channel.

25:35

JP note, Oh, okay. This is the

25:37

the the writer. Part of the problem is

25:39

that the term reaction content has an

25:41

extremely broad usage

25:43

and can include everything from highly creative

25:45

content. Like good mythical morning to zero effort reposts

25:47

where some jerk with the green screen stares into

25:49

space in the

25:50

corner. Yeah. Yeah.

25:53

Fair enough. Jaden in full plane chat said

25:55

I think you need to be more clear what you're

25:57

doing. Dark Viper's point is that

25:59

with livestreamer react reactors,

26:01

it's nearly impossible to have fair use since they

26:04

haven't already seen the content and can't

26:06

guarantee there will be substantial

26:08

content added or that only

26:10

what's needed is

26:11

included. As far as my understanding, it's not a live

26:13

streaming thing though. Right? No. Yeah. So I

26:15

don't Yeah. No. No. I mean, I think it's a

26:17

fair point though. And so, yeah, I I

26:19

should clarify that it would be it would be edited and

26:22

the goal would be to make it

26:24

a highly entertaining standalone piece of

26:27

content. Like, don't expect us to just start

26:29

reacting to, I don't know,

26:31

stuff that's outside of our realm,

26:33

but, like, you

26:35

know, reacting to sports fails.

26:39

Like like, why? Our goal

26:41

isn't to just go full

26:43

variety, just broad spectrum,

26:45

just shotgun approach to to our

26:47

content creation. The idea

26:49

would be to find content that would

26:51

be well within our

26:53

wheelhouse to to -- Yes. --

26:54

discussing some comments

26:56

on. The the whole mineral oil PC

26:58

thing was like my thing for

27:00

a long time. Yeah. And a

27:02

group that has kind of carried that

27:05

torch a little bit more has been toasty

27:07

bros. Nice. They

27:09

have let's see. Do they

27:11

like, top videos thing. No. They don't do that. I

27:13

know they've had yeah. I mean,

27:15

if you go to their home page and you go to custom you

27:17

scroll down and see custom builds,

27:19

first mineral PC running Windows ten and

27:21

filling it up four million views from eight

27:23

years ago. AMD, FX ninety five

27:26

ninety, and RX four

27:28

sixty, eight core mineral oil see world's first mineral of PC

27:30

with Windows eleven. Ryzen mineral of PC

27:32

and filling it up. Nice. They do mineral of

27:34

PC stuff. I

27:36

think reacting to some of it

27:38

could be

27:38

cool. It

27:39

could maybe boost them, but I would only wanna

27:41

do that if they also thought that would

27:43

be cool. Yep. And then it might boost

27:45

them. So I

27:47

don't know.

27:48

Well, I've been

27:50

waiting for LTT sports reacts.

27:53

No. No.

27:55

You haven't. Luke reacts to Conrad's

27:57

27 Dear DOTA gameplay. I

28:00

would actually

28:01

I would I would

28:02

do that. No. That won't

28:03

be nice. Comment. Yeah. That maybe doesn't

28:06

go on the channel, but I would Our

28:08

discussions question here. We've

28:10

got two. So one is that there's clearly

28:12

a strong demand for reaction

28:14

style content. Is there value in providing

28:16

the best possible version

28:18

of that content? So

28:19

obviously, I think so. Otherwise,

28:22

I I wouldn't do it. But, I

28:24

mean, you have no horse in this race.

28:26

I don't think you should just do

28:28

whatever there's a strong demand for, and I think

28:30

you would make that same argument. And

28:35

best possible version if that best

28:37

possible version is still trash. I don't

28:39

think it should be made. I

28:43

think there's a lot of ethical questions,

28:45

but if those can be overcome, that

28:48

there is potential for good.

28:50

I do think that's definitely a thing. I

28:53

have no idea what Tocipro's opinion

28:55

of what I said

28:58

earlier is. But if they thought that was good, I think that would be a good

29:00

example. I

29:04

would somewhat struggle to see

29:07

you finding enough of those

29:09

scenarios every

29:09

week, but maybe you

29:11

could. I don't know. Well, I'm not

29:13

saying it's not gonna happen. I just think it

29:15

might be hard. Yeah. Because, I mean, you

29:17

know as much as I do, creators are a little

29:19

rough with communication from time to

29:22

Myself included. So, like, you might reach

29:24

out a bunch and just not hear back or you're gonna

29:26

hear back in two months 27 you're gonna hear back

29:28

immediately, but then not get the

29:30

confirmation on the thing for two weeks or

29:32

or whatever else. So, like, yeah, it could be like

29:34

that. You're putting yourself at at a lot of risk

29:37

of of communication woes

29:39

completely screwing your production pipeline. And

29:41

then not putting pressure on

29:43

the team whose

29:45

goals potentially and whatnot

29:48

for quarters or however it works is based

29:50

around getting enough videos out in that

29:52

direction and then completely outside

29:54

of their

29:54

control. Not necessarily because they

29:57

shoot more broad spectrum. They could hit up more people. Yeah.

29:59

We can

29:59

react to our own stuff

30:00

too. Wow.

30:04

There's an ethical reaction channel. Yeah. It's

30:07

LTT. And then he reacts to LTT. Yeah. You

30:09

only react to your own

30:09

things. Oh, man. I came

30:11

across the funniest video.

30:14

You could do, like, LMG members

30:16

react to linus talking,

30:19

announcing news on the wancho that they've never heard

30:21

of

30:21

before. We have a problem I

30:23

have probably personally made

30:26

more tech videos that I completely

30:28

forget than most other channels

30:30

have ever uploaded. Yeah. Like

30:32

for real though, we uploaded a

30:34

video and this this is hilarious. I

30:36

came across this today because as we

30:38

were working on the tier list video,

30:41

I I was like, yeah,

30:43

hold on. What what what were the

30:45

circumstances around the launch of the GTX

30:47

Titan? So I was I

30:49

was looking Was Luke in any of those videos? Because I wanted to find

30:51

one that we were both in. Yes, Steve. Yet.

30:53

I couldn't remember yet. I don't know. I couldn't

30:55

remember either. So went back

30:57

and I was looking at our GTX

30:59

Titan videos and we had one

31:01

called early GTX Titan

31:03

benchmarks. You click on the video,

31:05

it's about a minute long,

31:08

and basically, before

31:10

the

31:10

NDA, I

31:12

take the cart. I've got it on the bench.

31:14

I'm like, yeah. Here's our test bench. I

31:16

remember. We

31:19

uploaded that. I

31:21

pull the card off.

31:22

I'm like,

31:24

okay. So what's really important when you're benchmarking

31:27

is you get it correctly positioned

31:28

on the bench. I pull

31:30

out a pink chalk. I

31:33

draw a line around it. And I'm

31:35

like, there we mark

31:37

the bench. There's your early

31:38

benchmarks. No. But seriously, we're gonna have

31:40

lots of

31:40

content coming on this card. See you later. I

31:43

I distinctly remember

31:45

that being made

31:47

But I'm

31:49

stunned that we actually released that. That

31:52

wasn't on April first or anything. Was it? Oh, no.

31:54

February second. Wow.

31:57

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

32:00

Absolute absolute move.

32:04

Like, I I don't know

32:04

how. That's rough. I thought I could get away

32:07

with stuff like that. That's rough.

32:08

People weren't even mad. People

32:10

were

32:10

so serious now. I

32:11

was gonna say the space was

32:13

very different.

32:14

Okay. Tell me something. Did

32:16

they change

32:17

or did I change? I think a

32:19

little bit of both. content's a lot

32:21

more serious these days. Like, the the

32:24

especially, like, content

32:24

quality. Think about the stuff we were releasing back then.

32:26

I mean, yeah. And I was taking

32:28

a GPU and putting it on a

32:30

bench and drawing a line around it. Like, that was a video

32:32

apparently. Yeah.

32:33

That's like gay kids. If you if you release

32:35

that now, I think there'd be uproar.

32:38

Because the average quality is so

32:40

much higher. I

32:43

don't know. There's Yeah.

32:47

Because that wasn't that much longer

32:49

than unboxing motherboards in a parking

32:51

lot. Yeah. That would have only been

32:52

what, like, three years. Yeah. Something like that. Three, four years later.

32:55

Yeah. Like, speaking

32:57

of that era, do you

32:59

remember the video we did, intern search?

33:03

When

33:03

we were

33:03

a jenga thing? No. No. No. No. That was

33:05

that was actually, like, hiring for a position. This

33:07

is before we actually had any money.

33:10

And we were, like, I don't know, are, like, unpaid interns a

33:12

thing. We were, like, is this when we look for

33:14

Ed? No. No. No. No. This is this

33:16

is Ed was

33:18

there. So remember, where's my c clamp?

33:20

You

33:21

don't remember

33:22

this at all? I

33:23

I'm getting some I'm in the backyard in my

33:26

box. My garage. Hold

33:28

on. Alright. Let's just bring it up. Let's just

33:30

bring it

33:30

up. Alright. We're reacting to our own content.

33:32

This I'm totally okay with. I think there are

33:34

no ethical problems reacting to our

33:36

27 content at

33:37

all. Alright. Here we go. Minus'

33:39

laptop. Let's go. Let's go look

33:41

at this

33:42

guy. For some

33:44

reason, I remember this frame.

33:47

Yeah. I was going

33:49

for like a super super

33:51

Can they can they hear this? No.

33:54

I don't think

33:56

Oh. Oh,

33:56

I'm muted. Hold on. That's your problem.

33:59

No.

33:59

No. I think

33:59

they're wrong. No. They

34:00

should be able to hear it. The last

34:02

Hopefully, it's got to be as

34:05

garbled. Now, let's go look at work

34:07

at minus tactics. For one summary summary,

34:09

a very positive respectful

34:11

It zooms out

34:11

in your inbox too. I

34:13

was going for, like, a c plus c

34:15

plus -- Oh, boy. -- in

34:18

drive. I told him I

34:20

didn't move I'm venturing Far Cry, I think, or Crisis maybe. makes

34:22

that makes

34:23

sense. You also need to be

34:25

the level of professional

34:28

Any who? Fun fact, do

34:30

you remember the person in the video

34:33

now? No. Do

34:33

you remember the person? Yes.

34:36

Who, like, came in

34:38

twice to 27, like, hang out with us. I

34:40

do. Didn't really do any work,

34:42

which is fine because,

34:44

yeah, that's unpaid interns are not

34:45

legal. Yeah. And we never even attempted to

34:47

really move that again. Yeah. We're look,

34:49

we were

34:51

very desperate. It

34:53

was a desperate time. That person

34:56

finished their education. Oh, you had the stream

34:58

audio

34:59

playing. Oh, oh, sorry, guys. My bad. So you can look

35:02

it up. Yeah. That that

35:04

person finished their

35:06

education and

35:08

is currently interviewing for

35:10

an engineering position for greater

35:12

warehouse. What? That's such actually

35:15

super cool. Yeah. I I was worked from home yesterday

35:18

because we were shooting at the at the house

35:20

for AMD thirty

35:22

day

35:22

challenge, and then I was doing something else

35:24

there as I can't remember. I

35:28

remember he he came in with a custom

35:30

keyboard, and he had the dust

35:31

cover. Yeah. So he was in --

35:33

Yeah. -- interviewing the day that I was shooting the

35:35

AMD GPU challenge, I was like and so Nick messaged me. He's

35:37

like, yeah. This guy didn't say anything about it until he

35:40

came in for the interview. But, like, do you remember

35:42

someone by the

35:44

name of like, yeah. Like, oh, well, he's in for an interview right

35:46

now. Do you wanna come say hi? I'm like, oh, I wish I was

35:48

in. I would totally come say hi.

35:50

But it's I can tell him useless

35:52

he was, but how fine that was because

35:54

we didn't pay

35:54

him. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

35:59

Amazing. That's funny. Amazing.

36:05

So that's cool. Why

36:08

don't we move

36:09

on? Oh, why don't we do our

36:12

let's do our new segment. Yeah.

36:14

This segment is called original

36:18

sauce. This is cool. Yeah. I like this.

36:20

And basically, it's just going

36:22

to be finding something

36:24

that's a a development in the tech world.

36:26

Like, we have people reach out to us all the time going,

36:28

here's something that's happening or here's

36:30

someone we think you might like to

36:34

talk to you? Do you wanna have this person on the podcast? Do you wanna make a video

36:36

about this? And you know what? The answer is usually no

36:38

because they have the

36:40

personality of

36:42

untoasted toast.

36:44

That's just bread. Or it's not really

36:46

interesting enough for like a full

36:48

video channel release because we

36:51

can't just upload BS anymore the way that we apparently

36:53

used to.

36:54

So original sauce is gonna

36:56

be how we're gonna tackle this stuff, where

36:58

we kinda go, okay, yeah, we

37:01

can definitely set aside the time to

37:03

have an off the air phone

37:05

call, figure out if this is worth talking

37:07

about, and then compile some notes

37:09

and let the community know about

37:10

it. 27 everyone's in a blue

37:12

moon. It's enough that we end up making a dedicated video,

37:14

but probably not. But probably not. So we're

37:16

going to the original sauce And

37:18

in this case, what we're gonna be talking about is CaseLabs coming back from

37:21

the dead. So this is all compiled by

37:23

the new WAN show writer who

37:26

interviewed the new owner of

37:27

CaseLabs, Emile

37:30

Richter

37:31

Steadt. ANY WHO, the new owner of the CaseLabs IP.

37:34

So CaseLabs was first founded in nineteen

37:36

seventy one and shut down in twenty

37:38

eighteen, citing high

37:40

US tariffs, on

37:42

the import of aluminum, a primary component of

37:44

their builds, which had gone

37:46

up in price by, like, eighty

37:49

percent or something like that. So they said their prices

37:51

were just not gonna be realistic. They weren't gonna

37:54

be able

37:56

to compete. Imile is a longtime PC and gaming

37:58

enthusiast. She's been building his own PCs for

38:00

over twenty years. And until twenty twenty

38:02

one, he was the owner and founder of a consulting

38:04

company that

38:06

assisted Swedish researchers in collecting

38:07

data. In

38:08

twenty seventeen, Anil bought a CaseLabs

38:11

case for one of his

38:14

builds a case he loved so much that when the company collapsed in twenty eighteen, he

38:16

reached out to Jim Keating, the former

38:18

CEO 27 discuss acquiring it

38:21

a process that was delayed by legal wrangling

38:23

and the pandemic. Sounds great. So

38:25

this is according to Emile.

38:27

His approach to reviving

38:29

the brand is cautiously optimistic, heavy on the

38:32

caution. Based on the

38:34

finances of the former CaseLabs, he believes that the

38:36

company was on a consistent upward

38:38

trajectory with strong fundamentals,

38:40

but the basic combination of

38:42

high overhead and an excessively niche

38:44

market meant that it could

38:46

not survive the macroeconomic conditions that it faced in twenty eighteen. So his

38:48

hope is they'll be able to restart case

38:50

labs as a boutique

38:52

custom case producer,

38:54

but also spend into more

38:56

general broad appeal products to give them a

38:58

foundation of revenue while maintaining

38:59

quality. The team is currently

39:02

small, and

39:03

I would say that this is now me talking. I would

39:06

say this is going to be a big challenge

39:08

because CaseLabs'

39:12

advantage was expertise

39:14

when it came to

39:16

small run metal fabrication.

39:19

It's unclear to

39:21

me exactly what expertise Emile

39:23

and his team are bringing, but

39:26

it might not have started with

39:28

that given Emile's

39:31

previous employment. But

39:33

okay? I mean, Anne,

39:36

because they're not they're not doing the

39:38

fabrication. Yeah. So

39:40

the team is currently small. And this was

39:42

one thing that I had actually asked the writer to to check-in

39:44

about 27 I had to have a caselabs case

39:47

that I like very much

39:50

and was sad to discover that I can no longer get replacement parts

39:52

for. And apparently, that's their

39:54

plan to start with is to focus on

39:56

replacements parts

39:58

ideally by the end of this financial quarter. That seems

40:00

aggressive. They're gonna start with high

40:02

demand items and then expand once

40:04

consistent sales are established, launch a

40:07

survey collect more data. So if you're a caselabs case owner, now

40:09

might be a good time to get in touch and say, hey,

40:12

I could really use more drive

40:14

sleds or something along

40:16

those lines. They eventually wish to create and design

40:18

cases and bring fabrication in

40:20

house, and the current plan is to partner with

40:22

an existing manufacturer

40:24

in Sweden. So as to keep

40:26

overhead low, that's questionable.

40:28

I don't know that low overhead

40:30

and Sweden necessarily go together very

40:32

well. Well, I think in

40:34

this case, because it's local. I guess

40:36

so. But they also wanna maintain

40:38

a close eye on quality

40:42

testing.

40:42

I admire the

40:44

I admire the the will.

40:46

You know? I admire

40:50

the spirit I think that, you a

40:52

CaseLabs for those not familiar,

40:54

they made highly customizable,

40:56

very enthusiast friendly enclosures I

41:00

think that trying to resurrect a brand like

41:02

that is really cool. But

41:06

I do question a little bit

41:10

the I do

41:12

think it's gonna be extremely challenging.

41:16

I mean, there's

41:19

apparently still enough demand for these the

41:22

style of case that mountain mods

41:24

still exists.

41:26

This is this is surprising to me. Super

41:28

cool folks over here from what I can

41:30

remember. It's been a long time and

41:32

who knows,

41:34

maybe you know, bends not there anymore, but, you

41:36

know, who knows? Maybe maybe they are. But

41:38

these guys make kind of a a

41:40

similar style of cube case

41:43

I don't know who was the original in this style, but,

41:46

man, one of my one of my favorite

41:48

builds I ever did was in the H2G0.

41:51

This is was it I think it was

41:53

MATX? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It

41:55

can do full ATX, but I did an MATX

41:57

build so that I'd have more room for like a cool

42:00

reservoir beside or something like that. Yeah. These guys these guys did some cool

42:02

stuff back in the day. But I

42:04

just don't know, you know,

42:06

unless CaseLabs sort

42:08

of reinvent themselves and looks at different form factors

42:10

or different styles of cases. I don't

42:13

know that they are going to be able

42:15

to achieve the kind of volume

42:17

that would give them the growth that they might

42:19

need to jumpstart this budding company.

42:21

I hope they have a lot of runway. And

42:23

if they don't, or rather and if they

42:25

do diversify, then I do wonder if they're gonna be

42:28

left with what made

42:30

them

42:30

caselabs. Like, if they're gonna be left with an

42:33

27,

42:35

Hopefully, it works out. I like to

42:38

Caselabs. I thought they're super cool. It's

42:40

it's intriguing.

42:42

That they're back. But I don't know if any of the original

42:45

people are there at all. No. It doesn't sound like

42:47

it. Yeah. So in that

42:50

case, it's a

42:52

brand name with some IP and not the people. And CaseLabs was

42:54

a very people driven company because you have

42:57

to be when you're 27. Yep.

42:59

And doing boutique things. So

43:01

it's a tough situation. Hopefully, it goes well.

43:03

Yeah. CyberArk cats asks, saw this over and

43:06

flipped plane chat. I wonder if LMG would

43:08

or has

43:10

ever consider designing their own cases or even prebuilds. Case

43:12

is gasher, we've talked about it.

43:14

I remember, I basically designed

43:16

what would turn into a

43:19

pretty common small form factor form fact small

43:22

small form factor case layout later

43:26

with my bud and

43:28

Nate at who was that cooler master at the time. I kinda sat there

43:30

and looked at one of their designs and I was like, yeah, but it

43:32

would be better if it was like this and this and this and then

43:34

it could be like almost the size of a

43:36

PlayStation four. And then we ended up seeing a

43:38

bunch of cases that were like that. And

43:40

then one of the other things I was really

43:42

passionate about was the idea of

43:44

building gaming cases that are designed

43:46

for rackmount. And then,

43:48

crap. What's the company that

43:50

does a really, really good

43:53

job of those now? I don't remember, but you

43:55

worked with them for a bit. Didn't you? They

43:57

sent over a slagger. Wait.

43:59

Yes? Yeah. Slagger. Slagger exists,

44:01

and they seem to be doing a great job

44:03

of those style of case. So for me, I

44:05

would something doing that I feel like the market needs and

44:07

it's just never really happened at

44:10

least not at

44:12

the right time with us having the right resources in order to

44:14

bring something like that to life. As

44:17

for prebuilds, I mean, I

44:19

raised all of my concerns about the prebuilt

44:21

PC business when we reviewed

44:24

the star forge system that we did a little

44:26

while

44:26

back. I'll never say never,

44:28

but it's

44:28

a tough business. Very

44:30

tough business.

44:31

Speaking of cases,

44:34

Let's talk about the challenge updates. Yeah. Sure. Should

44:37

we start

44:37

with ARC?

44:38

You really want it oh, yeah. Sure. I've got some

44:40

things to say. That's

44:41

why I really 27 talk

44:44

about it. I've got one thing to say. I would like to

44:46

apologize to everyone for my

44:48

unprofessionalism in the arc part

44:50

three video, part two and a half. If you card out

44:51

27. Whatever

44:54

it was, No. No. Not that at all. I

44:56

didn't realize that I do this, but I

44:58

was apparently mouthing along to

45:00

the script while you

45:02

were talking. So

45:04

we tried

45:05

a really different format for

45:07

that video. Yeah.

45:09

A prime message me. He's like, yo,

45:11

can you not do

45:13

that? God. No idea. It's doing that. It's kinda it's like feeding

45:15

a baby. Yeah. These

45:19

are the words. Please say

45:22

the totally subconscious.

45:25

But we took a bit of

45:27

a different approach to that video because

45:29

what I wanted was for it to have kind of

45:31

a conversational format, but I also

45:34

wanted it to have the

45:36

structure of of a

45:37

hosted, written, delivered video so that it would

45:40

be nice and tight into the 27. Well,

45:41

it to be genuine and conversational but not

45:43

land show. Yes. But have

45:45

a bit of like a wancho vibe. And and

45:47

people picked it up. But one of the side

45:50

effects was that, yes, it was

45:52

nearly fully scripted. We ad lived a

45:54

little bit just to kind of, you know, keep the

45:56

energy up so that it wasn't

45:58

just taking

46:00

turns. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Reading.

46:02

Perhaps you're lying. But anyway, if I'd

46:04

mouth it, maybe Yeah. That's good to say. Yeah.

46:08

Yeah. Yeah. And I I was I was actually I was really I I was

46:10

really proud of it. Like, with notes

46:12

from Luke, I wrote the vast majority of

46:14

it for both of our parts trying

46:16

to kind

46:18

of get his voice and also make sure that I was including all of

46:20

his points. But but keeping the

46:22

the structure of the video as

46:24

tight as a fully scripted video

46:28

but I screwed up. I was

46:31

sitting there reading

46:33

the script along with you when

46:35

I was supposed to be just supposedly

46:38

listening to new words I've never seen

46:40

or heard of before that are coming out

46:42

of you and paying

46:44

attention. Anywho.

46:46

What had you wanna say? You are doing

46:50

it. I

46:52

don't I would have noticed if no one mentioned it. And I bet you that's gonna

46:54

be true for a bunch of people. So now,

46:56

like, tons of people are gonna watch this and just see

46:58

you need you need 27. Because it's not like

47:01

you're not, like, fully enunciating, but it is

47:04

moving a little

47:04

bit. You wanna

47:05

just show the people. Sure. I'm not even providing

47:07

my new screen. Let's

47:10

see. You can see

47:11

it. It's minor, but you can see it. Now

47:14

I

47:14

go full screen. One sec.

47:17

Cringe. Yeah.

47:20

I

47:21

think I gotta

47:24

go back. Wait.

47:25

Wait. Wait.

47:28

There. You can see

47:30

it. Yeah. It's minor. It's

47:32

minor, but he's doing it. Oh. Right

47:34

after this, if I remember correctly. Yep. Right

47:36

here. I'll do it. Hold on. Hold on. K. One second. I gotta go back.

47:39

Yeah. Go back. Go back.

47:43

It's really

47:46

it's really

47:49

minor. That's

47:52

funny. The worst

47:55

the worst thing ever. A bunch

47:56

of people in chat. Yeah. I can't confirm, didn't see it

47:59

initially. Yeah. I think people wouldn't have noticed

48:01

I want this to be very clear just because

48:03

something is scripted doesn't mean it's not our

48:05

genuine thoughts. I took all the notes that

48:07

Luke provided me. I took all of my notes

48:09

it's just a way to and this is something you've

48:12

definitely heard me talk about even if not the

48:14

ever YouTube videos or reaction video, you

48:16

know, talk. I give a lot of

48:18

talks during, like, script reviews and

48:20

and meetings with the writers. But

48:22

you've definitely heard me give the

48:24

the the don't waste the

48:26

audience's time

48:27

talk, like, density density

48:30

density density 27. were gonna script

48:32

it. 27 it like, it should have been scripted. But

48:34

we were just trying to as a

48:36

conclusion

48:36

video, to something like this, it makes sense for it to be more conversational.

48:38

Yes. But it also 27 to be scripted.

48:40

And so what I thought about was

48:42

just having, like, headers and

48:46

then points that we wanted to make sure we

48:47

27, but that wouldn't have achieved the

48:50

density that I want to Turn into something

48:52

that's way

48:52

too long because you don't know what to end it.

48:56

Well, I

48:57

do. It had

49:00

to be scripted. Yeah. I can

49:03

There's certain

49:03

things. There's certain if you You're not the reason why it

49:05

shows three

49:05

and a half hours. If you

49:08

want proof of this, go you're gonna have

49:10

to dig 27 go back and

49:12

find the oculus gets bought out

49:14

by Facebook win show.

49:16

I think I

49:19

think I talked about that

49:21

for literally like an

49:22

hour. I mean, you ended up being right about basically everything.

49:24

Which was kind of which is neat.

49:26

Sad. But Well, yeah.

49:29

I got so much flack too.

49:32

People hated me for it because they were like,

49:34

no. Like, they said this wasn't gonna

49:35

happen. I'm like, yeah. Whatever. Yeah.

49:37

Because

49:37

he's, like,

49:38

calm in Luke w. How things go?

49:40

I've been calling AI

49:42

stuff very

49:43

accurately. I know. Right?

49:46

Like, very Yeah. Like Even when I'm like, I don't know, I'm probably

49:48

wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna go exactly this way,

49:50

and then it totally

49:51

does. OpenAI announcing the

49:54

JT. JBT chat premium was like, whoa. Like,

49:56

the day after he's like, yeah, it'll be like

49:58

that. Or I really hope it's like that on

50:01

land shows. Alright. Yeah.

50:04

You you you got it. You didn't know what's

50:05

up. So is there anything else to say about the

50:08

arc? Nope. Nope. I don't really have

50:10

anything else say that. Yeah. No. I mean, it I kinda I mean, point

50:12

of scripting it is that I was was able

50:14

to sit there for just four hours 27-

50:15

Yeah. -- take

50:18

everything and put

50:20

it into a nice little package. The most interesting thing

50:22

to me was that we both had the reaction that

50:25

after week like two

50:27

or three --

50:28

Yep. We

50:30

just sort of forgot about it. But,

50:33

yeah, that was that was very interesting to

50:36

me. But Yeah.

50:38

Okay. New

50:39

one. AMD challenge. Radeon challenge.

50:44

My

50:44

computer was

50:46

fully braked after swapping,

50:50

but not because of

50:52

AMD, maybe.

50:54

I believe that my

50:56

bias was corrupted. Oh. And it

50:59

took a total of between Jake

51:01

and me probably about

51:03

three and a half hours of troubleshooting to get my system back to

51:05

a booable state. Whoa.

51:10

And there were

51:12

some compromises. Oh.

51:13

Wow. Were you were

51:16

you planning to top that?

51:20

Maybe. Oh, no.

51:23

Okay. So there's gonna

51:25

be some spoilers here, guys. You

51:27

don't like spoilers, but realistically, you're watching Wancho. You

51:29

love spoilers. We do have the

51:32

AMD Radeon challenge coming.

51:34

Yeah. We

51:36

I, Luke, and we added Jake this time,

51:39

all upgraded to

51:41

the Radeon seventy nine hundred

51:43

XTX, which actually for

51:45

all of us is a substantial

51:46

performance upgrade. Massive upgrade. I mean, I went

51:48

from a thirty ninety, which is a pretty darn good

51:51

card, but I'll tell you. Playing Halo

51:53

Infinite? Tanya on her

51:53

desk? Mhmm. Fast. I think

51:54

I'll feel -- She's fast. -- quite a bit

51:57

because I went from Titan RTX. Which

52:00

is still

52:01

cooking to good 27. Totally solid.

52:04

But,

52:04

you know, I'm

52:05

not maxing the capability of my monitor in

52:07

every game that I'm playing.

52:08

No, you not.

52:09

Yeah. Yeah. So first

52:11

thing you open the box and just

52:14

whoa. This thing

52:16

is enormous. I've

52:18

never had a card that I

52:20

was putting in my own system that

52:22

came

52:23

with a stand. He

52:25

didn't get reference card, by you reference card? Well

52:28

Someone ended up with a reference card.

52:30

Oh, okay.

52:32

Sounds good.

52:34

It didn't

52:35

fit. It's not

52:37

in my system. Uh-oh.

52:40

It doesn't

52:42

fit. Cool. So

52:44

someone had the infinite wisdom to, like,

52:47

force me to upgrade to

52:49

water cooling because he

52:52

knows that I don't like it. So he gave me a water cooling

52:55

required motherboard. Oh, yeah. I remember. That was

52:57

still a good

52:57

motherboard. It

53:00

is. Yeah. The the

53:00

Azrock x five seventy Aqua. I came up

53:03

with the joke before the show and I wasn't sure if

53:05

I was gonna say it or not, but I think I'm gonna

53:06

I think I'm gonna say it. My

53:09

my joke was it's like giving Greta Thunberg

53:11

a big gotti.

53:19

Thank you. It's really nice, but I don't want

53:22

it. Anyway.

53:26

Okay.

53:27

Sorry. So, yeah, it didn't

53:30

fit. And the reason why it doesn't fit

53:32

is because

53:33

of water sitting right there. Yeah. And the

53:34

case is pretty small, so there's, like, not

53:37

really another now place to put the

53:39

27. Nice. So I had,

53:40

like, actually, don't know what to do.

53:42

I'll figure something out. I'm gonna figure

53:44

it out this weekend. But

53:45

like, I don't know. So wait,

53:47

you you you are

53:49

not gaming

53:52

on it. No. Not yet. It's not in there. Alright.

53:54

III have to redo

53:56

the whole water cooling loop --

53:58

Nice. -- or something. For an air cooled

54:00

card. Yeah.

54:02

Nice. Yeah. Nice. So, like, nice.

54:05

I don't know. Because,

54:07

like I told men. We

54:10

used one pre existing hole and then

54:12

we drilled another hole from mounting the

54:14

reservoir. Yeah. So there's potential that I

54:16

just crank it to the roof and

54:19

the reservoir, like, touches the top of the

54:21

case. Cool. And maybe it clears that way,

54:23

but then there's a tubing run that's

54:25

like really

54:26

tight. That goes right across there. The best part is the GPU's not a

54:28

gift. So he has to go back to his RTX

54:30

titan after. So it's not like he can

54:33

just You don't take it out of the loop. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty

54:36

funny. It's terrible. Yeah.

54:38

PCI riser and prop the card

54:40

upside the k outside the case. Oh.

54:44

That's horrible. Spoiler

54:45

alert, you might

54:46

see some other solutions kinda

54:50

like that.

54:53

Oh my goodness.

54:56

I would really love to

54:58

not redo my water cooling loop. So if I

55:00

can find any other solution, I'm pretty

55:03

much down. Nice. Yeah.

55:06

Why

55:06

don't we talk about SEDO? Actually,

55:08

why don't we talk real quick

55:11

about what merch messages are. Those of you who are new to the show

55:13

will be seeing these little merch

55:15

messages down here. People with

55:17

their little messages popping

55:20

up or There's probably some that are curated already. Maybe we'll do couple

55:22

of the curated ones. Dan, our producer

55:24

can read those out for us up, Dan.

55:27

We can't hurt his camera on today because

55:30

he's not wearing LTT store dot com

55:32

merchandise. Look, but is this a knock to a

55:34

hoodie? But

55:36

but no. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm sure it's some of those I'm sure it's a quality

55:38

hoodie, but geez, man. You gotta rep

55:39

them. It's not

55:40

as nice as the LTT hoodies. Don't

55:42

lie. I know it's really nice.

55:46

Anyway, the point is if

55:48

you wanna get our producer

55:50

Dan to check out your question, maybe

55:52

curate it for us to address on the show 27 if you

55:54

just wanna see it slide

55:56

on into our lower third

55:58

here. The way to do it is to go into LTT

56:00

store dot com, and you can pick up a gift

56:02

card, you can pick

56:04

up some Comfy underwear, hoodies, we got all kinds of great

56:06

stuff over there. And then in the checkout,

56:08

you'll see a little field marked merch messages and you can

56:10

put your message in and it'll

56:12

go into little processing queue here. The reason that we do it

56:14

this way is that compared

56:16

to super chats on YouTube, we are

56:18

more likely

56:20

to actually see them. So

56:22

if you head over here Oh,

56:24

okay. Nobody's actually sent any or maybe they

56:26

have? Who knows? Because Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh,

56:28

nobody. It didn't show up here, but oh,

56:30

okay. Sure. Why not? Apparently, that's how this works now. You

56:32

know what? Oh, it did manage to populate the

56:34

old ones. Maybe YouTube finally saw my thing.

56:38

Yeah. Either way, if you really want to throw money at super

56:40

chats, you absolutely can,

56:42

but YouTube takes a big

56:44

chunk of that instead of it

56:46

all going to creators and

56:48

effectively you because with merch

56:50

messages, we are still getting

56:52

a significant cut of what you

56:54

send. But you are

56:56

essentially taking the rest, which is the value of the

56:58

product and getting it back to yourself in the

57:00

form of something that you can enjoy. If you

57:02

really wanna throw money at screen, you can just buy a

57:04

gift card and then never use it on

57:06

lttstore dot com. Not that I would recommend that. I

57:08

don't think you should just throw money away, which

57:10

is why

57:12

we merch messages instead of superchats. And I've got a lot of people ask me,

57:14

okay, linus, mister merch messages

57:16

are better than Twitch bits

57:20

or superchats. Why do you leave super chats on then? Well, if people

57:22

really wanna throw money at the screen like what? I'm

57:24

gonna stop them. 27 no

57:26

obligation that we're

57:28

gonna respond. Yeah. I could tell them

57:30

not

57:30

to. I can tell them I'm not gonna look at it.

57:32

But like and we we

57:34

we

57:35

It shows it to other chat users as well. Yeah. Exactly. If that's their reason, then go ahead. Yeah.

57:37

So if they really wanna do it, then, like,

57:39

cool. But yeah. You should you should

57:41

do merch messages.

57:44

Yep.

57:45

It's a it's a better option. Yep. Cool. Why don't

57:46

we do a couple? Dan, hit me. Okay.

57:49

This one's from Michael, the

57:51

first annual chiplets Summit

57:54

concluded this week, and I'd like to know, do

57:56

you believe chiplets will be the future of

57:58

computers or is it just a patch until better

58:00

technologies can continue the trend

58:02

of die aggregation

58:03

future future. I think

58:06

you mean the present.

58:08

Yeah. Yeah. Chiplets are

58:10

are well and truly arrived

58:12

at this point. I mean,

58:14

man, I saw some I saw some new

58:16

like research paper stuff coming

58:19

out around two two dimensional something or other

58:22

some some new kind of transistor.

58:24

And I'm like, oh, yeah, about Moore's Law is coming

58:26

back and, like, I don't know. Yeah, man. Sure. If that

58:28

if that plays out, then

58:30

then great. I'm sure that

58:32

manufacturers would rather create

58:34

monolithic dies rather than work on these

58:36

super complicated interconnects. That necessitated by

58:39

chiplet designs, but that

58:41

has that's not

58:44

commercially ready

58:46

yet. And even if the researchers think it is, there's a

58:48

huge gulf between researchers thinking

58:50

something is commercially ready. I

58:54

mean, How many times have we have we seen researchers talking about

58:56

how how soon solid state

58:58

batteries are coming or graphene or

59:00

whatever else it is and then

59:03

real actual manufacturers of products going

59:04

like, you guys have not considered many of

59:07

these things that are real problems

59:09

in the real world.

59:12

So

59:12

yeah, I I think that I think that chip manufacturers

59:14

would rather create monolithic dies,

59:16

but if that's not an option, then

59:18

yeah, we're just going to have to

59:22

we're just gonna have to rely on these on these high speed interconnects

59:24

that are getting pretty sophisticated

59:26

working very well. Yeah. Yeah. So

59:30

I'm I'm excited for more three d

59:32

stacking

59:33

obviously, but

59:34

I don't think that

59:37

three d stacking is going to deliver even though it'll help

59:39

with density, I don't think it's gonna

59:42

deliver the kinds of of cost

59:44

advantages that consumers have enjoyed for the

59:46

last twenty three

59:48

well, forty years basically as long as as as

59:50

microprocessors have been have

59:54

have existed. Because it's it's just

59:56

not as cost effective as just as

59:58

as shrinking the distance between the

1:00:00

transistors. So yeah, I

1:00:02

think I think chiplets because they help

1:00:04

improve yields, because they help optimize cost. Like we

1:00:07

saw this recently on Radeon seven

1:00:09

thousand series where man, I'm

1:00:12

gonna get the names wrong because it's the kind

1:00:14

of thing that I look at in script review,

1:00:16

verify, read out in the video, and then I don't need to think

1:00:18

about anymore. But I think it's

1:00:20

the cache and memory die

1:00:22

that is on six

1:00:24

nanometer and then it's the compute

1:00:26

die that is five nanometer or TSMC or

1:00:28

whatever it is. Because what

1:00:30

they found was that TSMC's five

1:00:32

nanometer process doesn't really

1:00:34

shrink cache and memory

1:00:36

very much so they were able to save some money,

1:00:38

which, I mean, kind of made its way to

1:00:40

the end product. I mean, it's relatively

1:00:42

affordable compared to

1:00:44

NVIDIA's products. So

1:00:46

it's it's now. It's

1:00:48

the now. And barring some

1:00:50

kind of miraculous innovation,

1:00:53

it's it's the future too.

1:00:55

It's been the now for a bit too. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:00:57

mean AMD really led the way

1:00:59

in terms of proving that

1:01:02

chiplets could be competitive with

1:01:04

monolithic solutions. Next.

1:01:08

Yo, Dan. So

1:01:10

Oh, sorry. One more one more. Maybe two more.

1:01:13

Merge messages. Yeah. We'll do

1:01:16

more towards the end of the show, guys. It ends up

1:01:18

being kind of q and a. People give us people

1:01:20

kind of tee us up topics to talk

1:01:22

about and stuff like

1:01:24

that. Okay. This is a YouTube focused one. This is from Adam.

1:01:26

Hey, linus. I'm a truck driver and

1:01:28

download basically all my YouTube content

1:01:30

with premium. Does my view

1:01:34

time count to YouTube Analytics. Hundred percent?

1:01:35

So does with one download, you

1:01:38

get a one hundred

1:01:40

percent watched.

1:01:42

I believe. Oh. Oh, shoot. I have I have

1:01:45

heard that disgust. I don't

1:01:47

remember the answer. I

1:01:52

don't think so. Don't quote

1:01:55

me on it. Maybe

1:01:57

it like averages Yeah. It

1:02:00

doesn't do that either. No. It

1:02:02

either is like Netflix where you come back

1:02:04

online and it updates

1:02:06

your viewers your your

1:02:08

view

1:02:08

stats. Right? Or

1:02:10

it's a hundred percent. I can't remember what

1:02:12

A premium

1:02:13

download. Is that, like, download to device and you have to

1:02:15

use the app to watch it? Correct. So

1:02:17

it it it probably does that. It probably pays attention

1:02:19

to how you actually watch that. 27 would

1:02:21

be very logical. But, yeah,

1:02:24

there's there's There's a lot of

1:02:26

confusion among viewers

1:02:28

about, you know, how premium actually

1:02:30

contributes to creators. It's it's hugely

1:02:32

beneficial to creators, by the way. And this is even coming from

1:02:34

someone who has their own video platform where

1:02:36

they would rather you go subscribe flip

1:02:39

flop dot

1:02:40

com. Premium is

1:02:42

great for creators and great for

1:02:44

the sustainability of the platform overall

1:02:47

because Well, it's a lot more money than

1:02:50

you can generate with an ad with an ad supported view. I can tell you that much.

1:02:52

And that even ignores the

1:02:56

impact of of ad blocking, for example, even if absolutely nobody

1:02:58

was using ad blocking on YouTube, paid

1:03:02

subscribers at the rates that premium

1:03:04

charges, even even not in

1:03:06

the the the highest,

1:03:08

like, the highest YouTube premium cost

1:03:09

countries. It's it's so much so much more

1:03:12

than ads. Apparently, Spiffing Brit said that you get one hundred

1:03:13

percent wash time. Oh, that sounds like the kind of things

1:03:16

Spiffing Brit would look into. So

1:03:18

that may not be true forever

1:03:20

though, so

1:03:21

I don't know. might have been true for

1:03:23

the, like, account that he used or maybe he

1:03:25

did watch it locally or something. Who knows? I don't

1:03:27

know. I don't know. But the

1:03:30

point is that the way that the watch time gets calculated is

1:03:32

generally smarter than I think people give YouTube

1:03:34

credit for. For example, if you

1:03:36

watch it 27 x

1:03:38

speed, that it fully counts. It doesn't count as half the time.

1:03:40

Yeah. Yep. So it's it's by how

1:03:42

much of that video timeline

1:03:46

you consumed.

1:03:48

Okay. One more and

1:03:49

then move on. Yeah. One more. Oh, we didn't

1:03:51

even talk about, you know, cool new stuff

1:03:53

on LTT store that

1:03:56

people could like, get with the thing. So we've got new

1:03:58

patterns for our

1:04:00

for our boxers and

1:04:02

Oh, we covered

1:04:03

it. We got new product. The

1:04:06

GPU plushie is here. You've seen the

1:04:08

CPU plushie. Now we've got

1:04:10

that GPU plushie. Here, I'd

1:04:12

be there's no point showing the product page when we can

1:04:14

just show what it looks like. That's right.

1:04:16

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1:04:21

your backside

1:04:23

again. Oh, beautiful. Oh, love it. Got

1:04:25

it. And there's some fans, I think. Got some fans

1:04:27

on there. Oh, yeah. There's the

1:04:29

fans. Basically, it's just a cute little

1:04:31

decorative plushie. Don't

1:04:34

ever think Alright. One more merch

1:04:36

message, then we'll move on to our next

1:04:37

topic. Yeah. We'll

1:04:39

we'll get there. We'll

1:04:40

get there. One more merch message.

1:04:42

Okay. This

1:04:43

is

1:04:43

from Liz. Hi, Liz. This is Luke. I a promotion at work. Thank

1:04:46

you. Oh, it's a

1:04:47

completely new

1:04:47

department, though. Are you

1:04:50

with tips? On what you would be

1:04:52

looking for in a new team member without much

1:04:54

experience.

1:04:54

It doesn't sound

1:04:57

like a good promotion. Wow. Are you

1:04:59

sure you didn't just get, like, kind

1:05:00

of, look, thrown to the wolves?

1:05:02

Yeah. This is interesting. You know

1:05:04

what's without much experience. You know

1:05:07

what's really fun me? This really depends on the role. Go for

1:05:09

it. Does this remind you of anything that ever

1:05:12

happened? Are we

1:05:15

going there? Are we wait

1:05:18

for what? Like the recent thing? No.

1:05:22

I don't know. I feel this

1:05:24

has happened to me multiple times. I don't know

1:05:26

what you're

1:05:27

talking about. Are you sure

1:05:29

that you weren't just

1:05:31

like impossible to deal with in your current

1:05:34

position. Still

1:05:38

valid. Mine and Mine

1:05:40

and Luke's relationship has been often complicated

1:05:43

by my role as

1:05:45

his boss. On the one hand, I

1:05:47

think we're friends. You know? Like

1:05:50

really though, but on the other

1:05:52

hand, at one point

1:05:54

in time, I

1:05:56

was his friend, his landlord, his employer, and

1:05:59

I think there was technically like

1:06:01

one other thing. All

1:06:04

at once. Yeah.

1:06:06

No. No. Hold on.

1:06:08

Sorry. No. We're talking

1:06:10

about that one. Anyway, so

1:06:13

our relationship has at times

1:06:15

been really

1:06:16

complicated. Yeah. So,

1:06:19

I

1:06:19

mean, I mean,

1:06:20

if he fires me, he doesn't get rent. Squotting

1:06:23

in his house. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So

1:06:24

any who? Mhmm. There there was

1:06:26

there was a period where our

1:06:30

work relationship

1:06:32

was pretty challenging. And

1:06:37

Luke got a Promotion.

1:06:40

Promotion. Yeah. You know what?

1:06:42

Why don't I let you talk about

1:06:46

it? It was it was difficult on both sides.

1:06:48

I was a bit of a

1:06:50

dead head. And there

1:06:52

was also some other things

1:06:55

going on. I'm not gonna put all of the blame on

1:06:57

me. I think a lot of it can

1:06:59

go there though.

1:07:00

I own some. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah.

1:07:02

Things happen. I had a lot

1:07:04

going on too, and then and then I started doing full plane.

1:07:11

And it came with a a big bet

1:07:14

a better title. So it was a

1:07:16

promotion in that sense. Not really.

1:07:18

Oh, that's right. You had that title at Linus

1:07:20

Media Group that probably didn't I

1:07:22

mean To be

1:07:23

fair, it was kinda fake, and then it was kinda

1:07:25

real. So that's that's

1:07:28

better. Yeah. That's so

1:07:29

sad. Finkiest

1:07:31

title. Ain't who? No. Mine

1:07:33

was an improvement.

1:07:35

Yeah. So

1:07:40

are you sure it wasn't

1:07:41

that? I think it depends

1:07:44

a lot. So they say any tips on what you do for a new team member without

1:07:46

much experience. You said

1:07:47

promotion. So are you joining

1:07:50

as a team member? Are you

1:07:52

leading this

1:07:53

they're leading a completely new department. I think

1:07:55

it's basically what what

1:07:56

I was doing. Yeah. So Luke

1:07:59

went from being part of video

1:08:01

production at Lannis Media Group

1:08:03

to being the leader of

1:08:05

float

1:08:05

plane. Yeah. Yeah. I'm

1:08:08

really sick now though. You know what?

1:08:09

Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say that. What's

1:08:11

cool is that And this was like super

1:08:13

worked. This was it it was I

1:08:15

think I I think I

1:08:17

softened it a

1:08:19

lot. I

1:08:19

think probably You have a different

1:08:21

memory of how certain things went at that time than are, like, actually real and I have receipts for

1:08:23

a lot of it.

1:08:26

Did

1:08:26

I say mom's spaghetti?

1:08:29

What? Because I'm pretty sure I said mom

1:08:31

at some Probably. shot, one yeah. Okay. then I was pretty

1:08:34

27 then,

1:08:35

I guess. Yeah. About

1:08:38

what this was. Like, okay, build something. Yeah.

1:08:44

Fucking

1:08:45

did it. Just so. There you go. I think honestly

1:08:47

the role change did actually solve a lot of the

1:08:51

problems that, like, I was having

1:08:53

with

1:08:54

things -- I wasn't sure. -- me neither. Like, this was is worth biting.

1:09:00

Yeah. Yeah. I'm really happy with with the team that

1:09:02

we have. That's the main thing I'm happy with. Yeah. Flow plain

1:09:06

like existing and working. Seems like a fever dream. fact that that even

1:09:08

happened at all is, like, kind of, wild. And

1:09:10

then we do tons of other

1:09:14

stuff at this point now.

1:09:15

Yeah. That's very impactful. Business on

1:09:17

Yvonne Umbrella Corporation. Like, I just

1:09:19

talked to someone from

1:09:22

the inventory team about like

1:09:25

how cool the inventory system

1:09:26

is. Yeah. I'm gonna say their names. One of them I'm a

1:09:27

hundred percent certain I can say the other

1:09:30

one I'm ninety eight, but I think it's

1:09:32

okay. Peter

1:09:34

and Tyler do a lot of the work from the inventory

1:09:36

system, and they launched something recently

1:09:39

that was like super cool. Like,

1:09:42

we we do a bunch of infrastructure

1:09:44

stuff, not just in Flowplane, under the umbrella, includes the

1:09:46

labs web development team or killing it under the umbrella,

1:09:48

includes Conrad?

1:09:52

Formula one, Conrad. He's killing it? Like

1:09:54

-- Yeah. -- the the yeah.

1:09:56

AJ said going on almost six years

1:09:58

now. Yeah. We've been going for a long

1:10:00

time. The team's actually

1:10:02

like big. For a project that so many people called doomed

1:10:04

and continue to

1:10:07

call a

1:10:08

failure, it's going pretty

1:10:10

strong. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, I'm saying,

1:10:11

hey, what do you do? The the the checks, like,

1:10:14

be clear. Right? Like,

1:10:18

six years later, still

1:10:20

still still toiling away at

1:10:22

this failure of a project.

1:10:24

Yeah. Yeah. So III don't

1:10:27

know. It is what it is. It worked out. If you're

1:10:31

leading it, Yeah. I mean, so then fine. You

1:10:34

you did it. Maybe they're maybe they're being thrown to the wolves. It's a sink

1:10:38

or swim moment. Which is part of the name of Flowplane. Yeah.

1:10:40

Yeah. Maybe okay. What did you

1:10:43

how did you build the

1:10:45

team? I

1:10:47

don't know, dude. Find

1:10:49

an AJ and a Yuki as fast as you can. If

1:10:51

they're not named to that, you're doomed. I'm kidding. No. It sounds like

1:10:54

the team might already exist.

1:10:58

If that's the case, there's going to be

1:11:01

a lot of eyes on you.

1:11:03

And I think you

1:11:05

specifically said without much experience. It sounds like that

1:11:07

might mean that you're lacking confidence here. Try

1:11:10

to step into the situation

1:11:12

without

1:11:14

the

1:11:15

lacking confidence. But try to step into situation with humility at the same

1:11:17

time. Ask the team what they need,

1:11:19

what type of things they think

1:11:21

you should move forward

1:11:23

on, and educate yourself very

1:11:25

rapidly. You've been very kind

1:11:27

about it. I totally misread it. Yeah. So joining

1:11:29

a completely

1:11:32

new department and they

1:11:34

want to

1:11:34

be They might be a junior member. Yeah. They want to be what that department is looking Enthusiasm. Yes.

1:11:40

Ask lots of

1:11:41

questions. And don't be afraid to ask questions, but take notes. This might

1:11:43

be Don't ask the

1:11:46

same question again. Countercurrent

1:11:48

culture. But you

1:11:50

might wanna put some work in outside of

1:11:52

hours to, like, familiarize. I know. I know. I know.

1:11:54

But they're they're asking for for tips. And if

1:11:58

If you're looking to if you're looking

1:12:00

to impress a new department -- Yeah.

1:12:02

--

1:12:02

be growing and be growing rapidly. And if

1:12:04

if you can do that within hours, great. Like, I'm not

1:12:07

you don't have to do this. But if you're feeling

1:12:09

the burn when it's outside of work, you might be able

1:12:11

to make your day better by just

1:12:14

prepping a little bit more.

1:12:16

The the whole without much experience thing,

1:12:18

I keep coming back to that. Don't try too hard. Be yourself.

1:12:21

27 hate that

1:12:23

device. Alright. So you gave me a hard

1:12:25

time about

1:12:26

dunking on float planes of divers. Okay. I'll

1:12:28

explain why Jason Trent, we

1:12:30

approve

1:12:31

we we we like you you're

1:12:33

still

1:12:33

cool. Yeah. Yeah. Stay tuned. And

1:12:35

and the be yourself part? Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not I'm not telling you to be any different. like, socially --

1:12:37

Yeah. -- 27 don't try

1:12:39

too hard to think. 27.

1:12:42

Don't push yourself to the point where you're exhausting yourself too much. No. I think you misread this.

1:12:44

Did I? Yeah. I think it's 27

1:12:46

don't try too hard, like, be yourself.

1:12:49

27, you

1:12:51

know, like, don't laugh too hard. You

1:12:53

know? Oh, yeah.

1:12:54

Okay. Yeah. Then unless

1:12:55

you're awful,

1:12:58

then be someone else. What I I'm specifically talking

1:13:00

about effort level -- Sure. -- don't I

1:13:02

wouldn't try too hard to necessarily fit

1:13:06

Like, I wouldn't focus too

1:13:08

much on being able to sit around

1:13:11

the lunch table --

1:13:12

Yeah. -- without it being awkward.

1:13:14

I would focus hard on being a valuable member of the

1:13:16

team. Yeah. For sure.

1:13:17

Because if you're

1:13:18

a valuable member of the team, people don't wanna

1:13:20

talk to apparently, you are right. They said

1:13:22

thanks, Michael. If

1:13:23

you're

1:13:23

a valuable member of the team, it's about

1:13:25

anyone. Right? Even

1:13:26

if you don't socially fit in

1:13:28

super well, People

1:13:29

27 like that you're to be

1:13:31

respected even if you're not, like, people's BFF.

1:13:34

Right? And usually, if you're respected because you're

1:13:36

a valuable member of the team, that'll

1:13:38

just kinda happen with

1:13:39

time. K, Sherp, this is this is pretty good.

1:13:42

This is a pretty good way of kinda summarizing,

1:13:44

I think, what you did a good

1:13:46

job of oculus thing about

1:13:47

there. No great boss ever asks his team to consistently put in

1:13:49

work after hours, then they sure

1:13:51

do notice it.

1:13:55

Yes. That's

1:13:55

a really that's a really

1:13:55

good way. So a short term burst at

1:13:58

the beginning -- Yeah. -- to get yourself

1:14:00

maybe not up to

1:14:02

speed, but at least closer show,

1:14:04

let's see. Show some effort is never a bad

1:14:06

idea. Like, I was really impressed when You don't wanna be doing this long term. James,

1:14:12

who didn't have a ton of technology

1:14:14

coming in here compared to some of the other writers that we hired Anthony, Alex,

1:14:17

Jake, at that

1:14:20

time. Right? Like, these these are highly

1:14:22

technical people who just, like, did tech things for fun, for walls. Right? Mhmm. So James

1:14:24

coming in, I was

1:14:26

really impressed when he asked

1:14:29

for funding to buy this like textbook about display 27. And I was

1:14:31

like, it was like two hundred or

1:14:34

three hundred dollars or like

1:14:37

that. I was like, okay, I'm not buying them to be

1:14:39

not gonna read it. But if you're actually gonna read it and he did, then yeah, sure. Yeah, like, of course. And he's like, yeah,

1:14:41

I and he's like,

1:14:42

yeah, I read the whole thing on my own time. Like,

1:14:47

because the reality of it

1:14:49

is that

1:14:50

what you do during work

1:14:53

time is work. But what you do

1:14:55

outside of work time, you could almost think

1:14:57

of as, like, qualifications. Yeah. Yeah.

1:15:00

Like, you

1:15:02

wouldn't have been you you were kinda hired

1:15:04

based on having a go getter

1:15:06

kinda

1:15:06

attitude. So, yeah, I mean, by all

1:15:08

means, yeah, I didn't ask him to.

1:15:10

And you don't you don't wanna do this long term

1:15:12

-- No.

1:15:13

It's got strain. -- you're gonna burn out

1:15:14

really hard. You gotta have a life. It's gonna be bad for you and it's gonna

1:15:16

be bad for your employer

1:15:18

to a certain degree because when

1:15:21

you're burnt out and you're 27 up

1:15:22

to work, it's This is a line I know you've heard. You're no good to me dead. Yeah. Yeah. 27

1:15:25

heard that one

1:15:27

a few times.

1:15:29

If I see someone going too hard,

1:15:31

that's I default no good to

1:15:35

me dead. Like, Yeah.

1:15:37

You're you're a warm body, but you're not here. Right? Yeah. You're better

1:15:39

showing up doing the

1:15:44

work than showing up and doing the

1:15:46

work too hard and then burning out and disappearing and doing that cycle a bunch of times. So put

1:15:48

in put in a little bit of

1:15:50

extra effort at the beginning to get

1:15:53

27 little bit of a

1:15:55

boost on that experience. Yeah. Might be a decent

1:15:57

idea or not depends. You're gonna have to

1:15:59

vibe this out a little bit. It might

1:16:01

be a decent idea to kind of

1:16:03

ask the team for some resources, for things that you can catch up on. Depending on

1:16:07

the vibe though, They might use

1:16:09

that as ammo against you, so it might be a good idea to find the resources yourself and try to catch up

1:16:11

as best 27 can. It just depends

1:16:14

on the type of people you're dealing

1:16:16

with.

1:16:17

Alright. Why don't we move into

1:16:20

our next big topic here? Perfectly good two year

1:16:22

old MacBooks are getting scrapped because of activation lock.

1:16:27

While new pro model SSD is found to

1:16:29

be worse than the

1:16:30

predecessor. Oh, some bad news for

1:16:33

Apple this week. Last week, computer repair

1:16:35

store owner John Bumsstead claimed that

1:16:38

shops like his aren't being

1:16:40

flooded with Macbooks that cannot

1:16:42

be refurbished or resold thanks to Apple's activation lock feature

1:16:44

leaving no option but to sell

1:16:46

them for parts or more likely

1:16:50

for scrap. The feature, which comes on max with

1:16:52

the t two security chip introduced in

1:16:54

twenty eighteen, allows the user to encrypt

1:16:56

their data so that only the user

1:16:58

can access it using touch ID. The

1:17:01

problem is that nothing, even a factory reset, can

1:17:03

disable the lock unless the original owner turned off,

1:17:07

find my, or used the

1:17:09

a race assistant prior to turning the laptop

1:17:11

in. Bombset says that previous owners are

1:17:12

rarely responsive, being in large

1:17:15

part companies and schools are

1:17:18

upgrading hundreds or thousands of machines. And while

1:17:21

he's heard of ways to bypass the t

1:17:23

two lock, those methods don't survive

1:17:25

a reset which would screw over whoever

1:17:27

buys the resold device.

1:17:31

As Apple Insider

1:17:33

points out, Apple does have a process

1:17:35

for removing activation lock from used devices, provided whatever gave

1:17:39

you a receipt. But the

1:17:41

method doesn't work if the previous owner hasn't removed the device from their account. Bombset

1:17:44

wants that

1:17:47

fixed like this

1:17:49

Oh, I have a link here

1:17:51

apparently. Oh, cool. So here's a here's a solution that is proposed.

1:17:56

When we come upon a locked machine that was legally

1:17:58

acquired, we should be able to log in to our Apple account, enter the serial, and any given information, then

1:18:00

click a button and submit the

1:18:03

machine to Apple for unlocking. Then

1:18:05

Apple could explore its records, query the original owner if it really wants to. And then if at the end of

1:18:07

the day there are no red flags,

1:18:11

the original owner and the original owner

1:18:14

doesn't protest within thirty days, the device should be auto unlocked. Like, never gonna fly. It

1:18:17

has to go

1:18:20

through Apple. Absolutely never going to fly if it has to go through

1:18:22

Apple. And even if it didn't have to go through Apple, like one of the things that

1:18:24

I pitched to our

1:18:26

writer before even looking at

1:18:28

John Bumpstead's ideas was, you know how okay. No. You

1:18:30

probably don't. But okay. Dan, you know how

1:18:32

when you're logging in on

1:18:35

an Apple device, it pretty

1:18:37

common for a two factor code to just kind of pop up on your other Apple

1:18:39

device that's logged into the same account. Yeah. We

1:18:41

had that a lot

1:18:43

the other day. Yeah. I get that

1:18:45

a lot on our teleprompter, which is really annoying. Anytime Mac address is off-site shooting somewhere and it's

1:18:48

like, oh, you're logging

1:18:50

in from an unusual

1:18:52

location. Am trying to

1:18:54

read the script. Thank you. You know, I

1:18:56

think that it

1:18:59

would be pretty chill if

1:19:01

the device is still in my account, if someone else had

1:19:03

it and was like, hey, requesting an unlock, I could see Apple

1:19:06

selling that as a

1:19:08

feature. Hey,

1:19:11

for that previous owner

1:19:13

or potential theft victim, here's

1:19:16

the current whereabouts of

1:19:19

your machine. Did you, like, know about this? That could

1:19:21

be pretty useful. And for

1:19:23

the recent acquirer

1:19:26

of said machine, it would be great to be able to send a ping to the previous

1:19:28

owner that's like, hey, about

1:19:30

this. It's still in your

1:19:32

account. Can can I use

1:19:34

it? That would be great. However,

1:19:36

that also assumes that everyone would kinda act in good

1:19:38

faith in the

1:19:39

situation. It's a fair play here

1:19:42

is

1:19:42

gonna be an issue. Which

1:19:44

could which could be a big problem, and

1:19:46

I could see Apple getting stuck as, like, kind of, like, an arbiter of of all these

1:19:49

kinds of disputes. Which they're not

1:19:51

gonna wanna do, they won't do

1:19:54

it. Yeah.

1:19:54

And I think they're gonna make privacy

1:19:57

arguments about, you know,

1:19:59

locations of devices being passed

1:20:01

to to new owners and things

1:20:03

like that. But bottom line

1:20:05

is we gotta we

1:20:08

gotta have some

1:20:10

kind of solution. Right? And

1:20:13

if this other news is anything to go by, the new solution is not to

1:20:15

simply just upgrade to the

1:20:20

newest MacBook. In somewhat related news, the

1:20:22

SSD and Apple's newest entry level fourteen inch MacBook Pro, since it's with the m

1:20:24

two pro

1:20:25

processor, five hundred and twelve

1:20:27

gigs of storage,

1:20:29

It is significantly slower than its predecessor in the twenty twenty one

1:20:31

fourteen inch MacBook Pro, so with the m one

1:20:33

processor and five hundred and twelve

1:20:35

gigs of storage. Though

1:20:39

confirmed by multiple reports evidence was first

1:20:41

shared by Daniel of YouTube channel's

1:20:43

zone of tech who clocked

1:20:45

the twenty twenty three

1:20:48

at just shy of three gigabytes a

1:20:50

second. Right? And twenty seven hundred megabytes a second of reads,

1:20:52

and that is, wow, half

1:20:54

a gig and over a gig

1:20:57

slower respectively than the twenty

1:20:59

twenty one model. He guessed

1:21:02

correctly that Apple is apparently pulling

1:21:04

same thing that they did back in June

1:21:06

replacing the dual NAND chip configuration in the m one model with a single chip

1:21:09

and this was confirmed

1:21:11

by YouTuber Max Tech and

1:21:13

nine to five Mac. Tom's hardware further notes that the new m two

1:21:15

Mac mini features similar SSD performance degradation compared

1:21:17

to the m one Mac mini

1:21:19

from twenty twenty. Confirmed

1:21:23

by Twitter user at tablerone

1:21:26

and YouTuber brand

1:21:28

27 geek

1:21:31

a bit. I mean, the new one comes in a hundred dollars less than the

1:21:33

original MSRP. But, like, what is what is

1:21:35

the deal with

1:21:38

this? It's kinda whack. Like, really? Not a fan.

1:21:40

I wonder if

1:21:44

it's I wonder

1:21:45

if it's like the

1:21:47

YouTube quality thing. In what way. I wonder

1:21:50

if they

1:21:50

like know people don't care. Yeah. I see that. I

1:21:53

mean, it's just

1:21:55

it just sucks though. Right? Like, as a

1:21:57

consumer, if I buy m two,

1:21:59

is it not a fair assumption that it is

1:22:01

better in every way than m one?

1:22:03

Just as good or fast Yeah.

1:22:06

I mean, there are certain situations

1:22:08

where, sure, I can I can see some

1:22:10

justification for this? Okay? So say, for example,

1:22:12

an electric car. If you go

1:22:15

with a top performance spec, it might have

1:22:17

less range.

1:22:17

But there's a there's a

1:22:18

logical reason for that. If I get

1:22:22

27 m two processor, theoretically, I

1:22:25

would expect it to have a better storage

1:22:27

controller. Like, it shouldn't that that's

1:22:30

not that

1:22:31

only thing you could reasonably really assume is that maybe the battery

1:22:33

dies faster. Sure. Yeah. Maybe Right. Exactly the

1:22:35

same kind of It's exactly

1:22:37

exactly the same sort of

1:22:39

trade off. Yeah. But, yeah, no. I I think

1:22:41

you're absolutely right. I think it's pretty clear that Apple is taking a, you

1:22:44

know, whatever these

1:22:46

clubs won't notice approach.

1:22:48

Yeah. You know, realistically, it's less

1:22:50

about the hardware and it's more about the experience, it's more about the ecosystem, and

1:22:52

it's just it's

1:22:54

frustrating. And the thing is, like,

1:22:58

I'm not the one who should

1:22:59

be mad

1:23:01

about this. Yeah.

1:23:04

Yeah. Apple users

1:23:06

are the ones who should be mad, and

1:23:08

yet it feels like Apple's

1:23:10

users are the ones most likely

1:23:12

to just take

1:23:13

it, not really care, over and over

1:23:15

and over and over again. I don't understand it. Which is probably why

1:23:17

they're doing it. I don't know. I I really suspect

1:23:19

it's the, man, speaking of which, I

1:23:22

brought up the YouTube quality a few

1:23:24

things. YouTube quality thing a

1:23:26

few times today because it's plugging me. It will refuse

1:23:29

to play any video

1:23:31

that I open at

1:23:34

anything other than the lowest possible

1:23:36

quality. Nice. And I have to

1:23:38

change it every single time.

1:23:41

Nice. There's no learning happening because I do it every

1:23:43

single time. Nice. And out of spite, I put it

1:23:45

on the maximum

1:23:48

possible one. Despite

1:23:50

that, like, I don't need that necessarily. I'm usually playing it in a small window on a side monitor. I don't care. But

1:23:52

no. Now it's going full.

1:23:54

Take that Screw you, man.

1:23:58

Take that. I'm so annoyed. I have a

1:24:01

feeling that, like, because I'll leave open,

1:24:03

like, say the Lofai thing whatever

1:24:06

-- Sure. -- because I'll, like, just listen to music or

1:24:08

it's all my speakers so the birds will hear

1:24:10

it or whatever. I I play for

1:24:12

premium, but boy, I use it. But

1:24:14

I'm like wondering if they're like, oh, it's he's using too much. Let's

1:24:16

make him use less or

1:24:18

something. I don't know. But

1:24:23

Wow. That's annoying. I don't know. Going back to

1:24:25

the the locks on the on

1:24:27

the MacBooks, like and then there's a

1:24:29

lot of different ways that you can kinda

1:24:32

try to tackle this. Right? Like, obviously, if

1:24:34

you just had removable SSDs that are not tied to the t two chip, that would address the refurbishing

1:24:39

The main issue Right? But that wouldn't well,

1:24:41

no. The other main issue is device

1:24:43

ownership. Right? Like, we talked

1:24:46

just last week about your

1:24:48

benefits.

1:24:49

Of encrypting devices. It reduces the value in stealing one. Exactly. It

1:24:51

makes them worth so much less

1:24:55

for a thief. And so it's

1:24:57

not like I don't understand the benefits of doing it this way, but there has to be a way

1:24:59

to tackle it. Right? So one of

1:25:02

the one of the ideas here was

1:25:04

from jam

1:25:07

amp, pass students or parents, you know,

1:25:09

sign that they agree to pay for

1:25:11

lock laptops that have

1:25:13

returned. You know, instead of

1:25:16

shifting the blame to Apple, shift the blame to

1:25:18

the users who are not unlocking these bloody

1:25:19

things. Yeah. Like, it it was said

1:25:22

that if it's like last week, computer repair stop

1:25:24

owner claims that shops like his are being

1:25:26

flooded with Macbooks that cannot be referred well,

1:25:29

they're coming to you directly. It sounds

1:25:31

like So just try to get them do it at the door. Obviously, if it's a school,

1:25:33

the delivery person might just be like,

1:25:35

I don't know, just

1:25:38

leave them. But, like, some effort

1:25:40

should be done

1:25:41

there, I

1:25:42

think. There there's got there has got to be a way to do this. And if Apple

1:25:47

actually cared about the environment, the way they posture that they

1:25:49

do, then they would solve it.

1:25:51

Like, let's let's be

1:25:54

real here. Their R and D budget has enough room

1:25:56

in it if they were

1:25:58

legitimately motivated. To deal with

1:26:01

this problem, that they could find

1:26:03

a solution. And it's one of those things where

1:26:05

I I realize I'm coming in here just kinda

1:26:07

going, yeah, here's a problem. See you

1:26:09

later. Like, I I don't I don't have the

1:26:12

perfect solution, but I also I'm

1:26:14

not the one who should have

1:26:16

to. Like, I'm not the one who

1:26:18

is manufacturing mountains of e waste that

1:26:20

do not need to be

1:26:22

shredded. I'm not the one

1:26:25

saying oh, just care so huggy,

1:26:27

huggy much about the environment that we

1:26:30

I make the greenest devices ever. That's

1:26:32

you. That's you.

1:26:34

That's you're you're the one doing that.

1:26:36

It's Apple's hypocrisy that bothers me so much about

1:26:38

them. I saw I saw a comment on

1:26:41

on a flippant exclusive recently that was Jonathan Hirst reacting to something or other from

1:26:43

Apple, like the new announcement

1:26:46

of something. And it was

1:26:48

like, get

1:26:50

out. You've corrupted him. The longer he works

1:26:52

there, the more he sounds like a like

1:26:54

a cynical, like, non Mac person. I'll I'll

1:26:56

tell you something about Jonathan Horst. And

1:26:59

so he was hired because he is

1:27:01

analytical and maybe a little cynical, but still loves

1:27:03

Apple. That was exactly that

1:27:08

was exactly who we were looking for for

1:27:10

a role like that because we didn't want to be, like, every other Apple channel 27 just go, oh, yes, yes, please.

1:27:15

Please just my mouth. Right? Like, we

1:27:17

wanted to we wanted to

1:27:19

love Apple

1:27:20

27 not in like a super

1:27:23

submissive kind of way. Well,

1:27:25

I'm talking

1:27:26

fifty shades here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking like a healthy room. Fifty shades of space gray.

1:27:28

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

1:27:30

That's pretty good. Thanks. The

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1:27:36

fail.

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What do you wanna talk about? Oh oh, we

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gotta do this. Public

1:28:59

backlash against Microsoft for

1:29:02

reducing gamers' power bills.

1:29:06

Okay. Okay. This is a new segment. We're

1:29:08

calling this

1:29:09

thing. You know, it's kind of a good

1:29:11

thing. Yeah.

1:29:13

Yeah. This is great. Okay. I will talk you

1:29:15

through this. No. No. No. You're that don't I don't wanna give

1:29:17

her

1:29:18

to read it. Okay. Microsoft issued a recent press

1:29:21

release announcing a

1:29:24

new optional shut down mode as an alternative to

1:29:26

the previous sleep mode. So sleep, I think we're all pretty familiar with the

1:29:28

concept. Right? The

1:29:31

device goes into a very, very, very low power state,

1:29:33

but it's still on effectively. There's still

1:29:35

juices flowing through

1:29:37

the silicon. Okay? But the

1:29:40

benefit is that it wakes up really fast.

1:29:42

Like, you need to 27 some college

1:29:43

duty. No. So sleep.

1:29:46

I

1:29:46

mean, it it is nice. Yeah. It's great. Sleep is good. I love sleep. Yeah. Love who needs Yep. Oh,

1:29:48

you never gonna get it. Who

1:29:50

needs sleep? Tell me, what's that for?

1:29:54

Okay. Fair enough ladies. Anyway, the point

1:29:57

is politicians and media

1:29:59

figures decried the move

1:30:01

as an attack on

1:30:03

gaming. With one Fox News segment describing Microsoft's change

1:30:05

to the Xbox's power settings

1:30:07

as a conspiracy

1:30:11

targeting children. This is this is despite only twenty

1:30:13

percent of US gamers being under the

1:30:15

age of eighteen and despite

1:30:17

that being a phenomenally

1:30:20

l

1:30:20

take. Representative

1:30:21

Troy Nails. I don't know how to pronounce

1:30:23

this. An elected

1:30:28

official Okay. I can't even tell

1:30:30

I told the new writer not to editorialize, but this is really funny. Representative Troy

1:30:33

Nels, an elected official

1:30:35

and adult man

1:30:37

tweeted. They wanna take your guns, they wanna take your gas stoves,

1:30:39

and now they wanna

1:30:42

take your Xbox. What's next?

1:30:47

I love that. Sorry. That's

1:30:49

a that's a good line.

1:30:51

That that editorialization

1:30:53

gets a thumbs up. Fox

1:30:55

likewise, published an article, subtitled Oh

1:30:58

my gosh. Wolk brigade,

1:31:00

I wish this was fake,

1:31:02

but no, I am actually on fox

1:31:05

news dot com. Woke

1:31:07

brigade is after

1:31:09

video games. So is this how

1:31:11

they branded it? Because I don't understand

1:31:13

having the option to shut down being a bad

1:31:15

thing. Like, I genuinely being

1:31:19

as open to other ideas as possible alternative ideas.

1:31:21

Yes. Go ahead. I don't

1:31:23

get it. It's just

1:31:25

an option to shut down. It's not mandatory. Right?

1:31:27

It's an option. You can still sleep it. Right?

1:31:29

Am I missing something? Is anything

1:31:32

actually changing? They just have another

1:31:34

button. Right? They have one more

1:31:36

button? Did anything else

1:31:38

change? They are automatically applying the new mode, but you can go back to the old mode.

1:31:42

27 it

1:31:45

goes into so so shutdown mode takes about fifteen seconds to turn on. So right now Yes.

1:31:51

-- if I press the

1:31:53

button on my controller and I say like Xbox turn off in the past

1:31:55

it would have gone to sleep

1:31:58

and now it shuts down.

1:32:00

Yes. If

1:32:02

I say Xbox go to sleep,

1:32:04

does it go to

1:32:05

sleep? Well, yeah, you just change it to go

1:32:07