Matt Crawford speaks with journalist and author Francis Barry about his book, Back Roads and Better Angels: A Journey into the Heart of American Democracy. Are we as a nation truly as divided as portrayed? If you watch the news you my seem to believe so. Barry took to the road during the pandemic to see what was at the heart of the issue. Miles traveled and many interviews seem to tell a different tale. We have a great conversation about wat he expierienced and so much more. Please give a listen and start your own conversation.