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1:02

call is being routed by Google. The

1:04

cost of this call is 10 cents per minute. Hello?

1:11

Hello. Hi, what's your name?

1:14

Dan. Dan. Dan,

1:17

where are you calling me from? I said this

1:19

is a crazy number. Oh, I'm

1:21

calling from an undisclosed location in Asia.

1:25

You're in Asia right now? Yes. You

1:31

sound European.

1:37

Yeah, yeah. I kind of have family from

1:39

there. Oh, okay.

1:43

All right. So you are a

1:45

European in an undisclosed part of

1:47

Asia. Well,

1:51

we got all right now that that's out of the way. What's

1:56

up, Dan? How can I get you today? What do you want to talk

1:58

about? Well,

2:01

there was a time I got

2:03

declared a profit while incarcerated. You

2:07

got declared a profit

2:09

while incarcerated? Yes.

2:13

Okay. Um, the

2:15

floor is yours, Dan. Well,

2:19

how do I say this? I don't know

2:21

how much of a story I could tell about it, but basically

2:24

I was, uh... I

2:27

went homeless. I

2:29

got detained because of

2:32

a lack

2:34

of papers and so on. I

2:36

almost got deported, but then they

2:39

got sent to... But

2:41

then while I was in jail and

2:43

stuff like that, I

2:46

saw a talk about the occult. And

2:49

I would do divinations for

2:51

the other inmates. You

2:57

started a cult while in jail. No,

3:00

I was talking about the occult. You were

3:02

talking about the occult. What's the occult? Like

3:07

I was talking about ghosts, religion,

3:09

spirituality, mysticism, politics, philosophy, stuff

3:11

like that. Were

3:14

you doing that? Were you stirring up occult stuff

3:16

just to fuck around or because you were trying

3:18

to do something? Because

3:20

I was bored as heck. Alright, so you

3:23

just fucking ran around. Yeah,

3:25

but well, not fucking... I'm generally interested

3:27

in these topics, which is why

3:29

I was talking about them while in jail. Well,

3:32

can I ask you why you were in jail? Oh

3:36

yeah, basically like I went homeless

3:38

and I did not get any...

3:44

Like I basically almost got deported and

3:46

I got in a dispute with someone.

3:50

You got in a dispute with someone? Yeah.

3:53

You don't have to tell if you don't want to. It's

3:55

your business. It's your life. Yeah, I'm

3:58

not going to say that. But

4:00

this because of that and because of the black papers.

4:03

Okay. How long were you incarcerated for?

4:07

Two weeks. Two weeks.

4:09

Okay. And so

4:11

you're incarcerated in a—was this in

4:13

Asia or Europe? Asia.

4:17

Alright, so you're incarcerated in an undisclosed

4:19

place in Asia. Not North Korea, because that would

4:21

have been longer than two weeks. So

4:24

we narrowed it down a little bit. Yeah, not North Korea. And

4:29

you start—you're in jail,

4:31

and you're like, you know what would be

4:33

fun right now is to start riling up the inmates

4:35

by talking about aliens and

4:37

shit. So you're giving speeches,

4:39

you're standing on a soapbox, you're talking

4:42

about the occult, and then what happens?

4:46

Well, long story short, this rich kid

4:48

and this—well, to give you an idea

4:50

of the other inmates, there was this

4:53

gangster, there was this rich

4:55

kid, there was this army dude on drug

4:57

charges, there was this—what

5:00

else? I

5:03

can't remember all of them. There was this thief,

5:06

and there was—I can't

5:08

remember all of them, but basically

5:11

two of them declared me a prophet after

5:13

I did some divination for them, where I

5:16

rolled dice to foretell the futures. And

5:20

what else? Sorry, it's been

5:22

a while. So

5:26

you rolled the dice, and

5:28

you predicted what the dice would land on? Yeah,

5:33

basically one of the inmates got

5:35

out quickly, so that

5:37

kind of adds fuel to the

5:39

fire of my reputation to speak.

5:43

And then

5:48

I—and then—I'm

5:51

having trouble remembering what else happened. There was something

5:53

else— Do you believe that you are a prophet?

5:58

Honestly, No,

6:02

I'm a magician I guess. You're

6:04

a magician, okay. That's

6:07

honestly better than being a prophet. I

6:11

feel like magicians make

6:13

more money than prophets. Well

6:16

it's not about the money for me, it's just

6:18

about the adventures. I know it's not about the

6:20

money. I know nobody gets into magic for the

6:22

money. I'm just saying there's more magicians

6:25

doing residencies in Las

6:27

Vegas than there are

6:29

prophets. Yeah,

6:33

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,

6:37

okay, so this was a long ago. How long

6:39

ago was this? Oh,

6:42

this was how I was doing,

6:45

like this was four,

6:47

three, two years back. And

6:50

are you still homeless? Oh

6:53

no, I've been homeless two or three times since then,

6:55

but I'm currently not homeless. Okay,

6:58

good, good man. What do you, um, how's

7:01

life? Life's

7:05

been pretty good. I'm just

7:07

figuring out what to do, like where to take

7:09

the direction of my life. I have

7:12

my goals, it's just a matter

7:14

of finding out how to get there. Tell

7:18

me, tell me what the goals are. Well

7:23

basically I want to spread my

7:25

values. I want

7:27

to help those who help me. I

7:30

want to hurt those who hurt me. And

7:33

I want to find

7:36

a place of my own, you know, find a

7:38

place where they call home, you

7:40

know. Okay, some

7:42

of those sounded a little profity, which is good. I

7:44

think it's probably, I mean, I guess it's good. Um,

7:48

is undisclosed location in Asia not your

7:50

home? It

7:55

is my home, but doesn't feel like my home

7:57

in the distance. The

8:01

does make sense. That does make sense. What do you

8:03

do for work now? Right

8:06

now they're just do odd jobs. Do

8:11

you have friends and family in this undisclosed

8:13

pleasant Asia? Left.

8:19

Okay, And they are

8:21

people you met when you move. There are

8:23

they folks who also came from whatever European

8:25

country you came from. Google

8:29

column a load of column be. Cool.

8:32

Google: Whom. I'm.

8:34

So or a you want to help those

8:37

who helps you, hurt those who hurt you

8:39

and spread your message. Realize

8:42

around. Aka

8:44

are what what ideas have you a

8:47

came up with for how you you

8:49

wanna do this. What what vehicles will

8:51

these desires. You know,

8:54

take. Well

8:56

I tried. talk of people one on one on the

8:58

street. Damaged comfort. Five

9:00

people that way. And

9:02

and that like about couple times

9:05

I tried to organize a hothouse

9:07

to. And tried to

9:09

organize your for citing. A

9:12

group. That has

9:14

walked out of out of the last time

9:16

I try that chef from the in the

9:18

World in the Wilderness. Like

9:21

we organized camping trip to the some.

9:23

I tried to do it all again.

9:25

The other than that, well. Have

9:28

you tried doing like Air Bnb Experience

9:31

or Groupon or something where it's like.

9:33

In our gets converted to an

9:36

occult. I.

9:38

Feel like that's an experience people would sign

9:40

up for on the web sites. Good

9:43

point of the find the coon, the one

9:46

my area thank you for the earlier you

9:48

said you were convert, would you converting people?

9:52

Add to my values. What?

9:54

He values. From

9:58

I valued as a base for me. Freedom.

10:04

And. Will.

10:08

Not be good to see them I want

10:10

I want people to be to have the

10:13

strength and then to go after what they

10:15

truly walk and. Like.

10:19

As like. So.

10:22

Many people like we we we get

10:24

to be for we read all the

10:26

are so what are we to the

10:28

what life was a be good or

10:31

bad pluto crazy one day and the

10:33

whatever does you can do it also

10:35

includes you. Have

10:38

you already know? What? I

10:41

like that message. I'm curious what has to do with

10:43

haunted houses. obviously

10:45

as late. As basically they

10:47

are basic have heard of to

10:50

a spiritual freedom so away but

10:52

to show them were dispersed read

10:54

them after. Cause.

10:56

Paranormal phenomena of personal account

10:58

that makes sense. We can imagine

11:00

food from the the tears

11:02

into spirituality. Okay, doesn't make

11:04

sense but I want to understand.

11:07

You need to show people.

11:09

A haunted house to get them to

11:12

believe in freedom. I'm

11:16

the show people for not hoped

11:18

for now on the planet will

11:20

smell them and hot dogs to

11:22

get some to believe in freedom,

11:24

Sybil. Philippines

11:29

full of the flood. To show

11:31

them not like how reality is

11:33

much more valuable than we think,

11:35

I have to get some to

11:37

accept the message. Supervalu had to

11:39

split the values and on and

11:41

to go after what they want

11:43

to whatever it is. I'm

11:46

going to throw this out there and Anna want to?

11:49

You're doing your own thing. Here.

11:51

Is spread your a message on a

11:53

one it you know insect your message

11:55

with my message you know unwanted. just

11:57

step on your toes. Can

12:00

I- can I- can I offer

12:02

a thought? And it's okay if you think it's

12:04

a dick thought, but I just wanna offer a thought. Sure,

12:07

offer a thought. It's okay. Don't worry. Okay, alright. I-

12:11

can people not... uh,

12:15

believe in freedom... uh,

12:19

within... like,

12:21

just regular-ass reality? Like,

12:24

why do you- I guess I still don't understand why...

12:27

People need to see paranormal shit to

12:29

believe that they can do stuff with their lives. They

12:34

can believe freedom in regular-ass reality.

12:38

The reason- the reason I- the reason

12:40

I'm doing that is because I've made

12:42

freedom why I'm not keeping my

12:44

religion. Okay,

12:49

so freedom is your religion. And

12:51

so... Alright, so you're doing the prophet thing. Just

12:56

by showing people, you're the prophet, you're the

12:58

haunted house prophet. I

13:03

guess. Call

13:06

it four-hundred and magician or whatever, I'm just doing

13:08

whatever I can get. How many

13:10

people are following you? Only

13:14

five up until- only five in real life up

13:17

until now. That's pretty good. That's

13:19

pretty good. You

13:21

have five- like you- like you would say,

13:24

with all sincerity, that you have

13:26

five disciples. Yes,

13:30

like, and- and it's pretty- I

13:33

know it's low numbers, but it's actually pretty

13:35

heartwarming that they did that. Like,

13:38

it- like, if you know the area where I was

13:40

in, which I'm not gonna disclose, it-

13:42

you can get in serious trouble for- No, no, no, I

13:44

don't- wait, you can get- hold on, you can get in

13:46

trouble for... having

13:49

disciples? For

13:52

having- for having alternative spirituality,

13:54

alternative religions. Are

13:57

you in China? Something

14:00

like that. I guess you could say okay

14:06

So these people there these disciples that you have

14:08

what did how How

14:10

are they disciples like what do they? Do

14:13

they give you money do they like

14:15

wear t-shirt with your face on it?

14:18

How do they disciple you? How do they how

14:21

do you tell? That they are your

14:23

disciples. What do they have to do do they have to? Give

14:26

you their blood. What's going on? How do they?

14:30

What what's Yeah,

14:32

what's the benchmark for converted? The

14:37

best one because we'll be to accept the text

14:39

like is them to

14:41

practice our projection to

14:45

to basically Like

14:49

as is to cause the cause chaos

14:51

now the lives Stuff

14:54

in that do they have to have sex

14:56

with you? No All

14:59

right, I was just checking Interesting

15:04

okay, so do you like meet up with

15:06

these five disciples ever like do you have

15:08

like regular meetings? Yeah,

15:12

we do we do it's

15:14

not that regular since something happened,

15:16

but But we do

15:18

have meetings. We do have talk to each other that

15:21

sounds nice actually I like that That's like that's

15:23

real community right there Yeah,

15:26

yeah, I know right because this thing like

15:28

with freedom like sometimes you know like sometimes

15:32

you get pretty lonely, but

15:34

if you have a group people talking to each other

15:36

and Like should because

15:38

you try to be free to go out for what

15:40

they truly want it can help you right Brother

15:43

a fucking men do freedoms freedoms a double-edged

15:45

sword because you're right liz It

15:48

is kind of lonely, but it's good to have

15:50

you know it's good to be free with others.

15:53

You know Exactly

15:55

Exactly. And to answer your question, if

15:57

there's any men like this, two women.

16:00

Two men and sure that you could

16:02

be. At an asset. Oh

16:06

I outside of mister the. I'm.

16:09

Gonna. Look in the chat or you. I

16:12

look in the chat. Okay, can you Not look at the

16:14

chat while we don't. All

16:16

I'm sorry. Saga. That's

16:18

one of the rules of my religion.

16:22

Some. The Ten Commandments. So.

16:30

You didn't think that was funny and that's fine.

16:32

I'm not outside of for father died are you

16:35

not a lot of you? not to lie to

16:37

me. And. Or whatever. So

16:40

what? Are

16:42

you guys have a Facebook page Had as the head of

16:44

would join. Although

16:47

the to the others to fire

16:49

hawthorne part of it's very fit.org

16:51

given Real Blood said again. The

16:55

To file the Pilot Bay the.org that

16:57

we uploaded. Okay, so this

17:00

motherfuckers on Facebook or Instagram. You're

17:02

on the pirate bay. Yes,

17:06

Okay and so on. Pirate Bay there are two

17:08

files that we can this you wanna tell us

17:10

how to get? Do ya know what I mean?

17:12

I don't want to get you in trouble or

17:14

you don't have people crawling up your ass, but

17:16

I mean do you want? How do we get

17:19

them? Okay, so

17:21

it the name of the files

17:23

the first was never a knockoff.

17:25

The certain files chronicle strategy can

17:27

find them, a pirate bay or

17:30

script that authentic toilet library site.

17:32

Say. This again by know me by would be. It's

17:36

a Pdf files tax. Okay, what's the

17:39

first one? cause I don't. Forget

17:44

the what's what's the first one calls. Or

17:47

liberal a knockoff. Lebeau.

17:50

Knockout, even spotty spell. that. Are

17:53

L I T E R. a

17:57

m a r j h

18:00

Okay, what's the other one? The

18:04

second one is the Chronicles of Anarchy. Okay,

18:07

just a disclaimer. Therapy

18:10

Gecko LLC and Partners are not

18:12

responsible for any computer viruses infecting

18:15

the computers of anyone who decides to download these

18:17

files. But if

18:20

you're listening to this and you decide you download

18:22

these files, let me know what they say. Um,

18:25

cause I'm curious. And

18:27

while you're there, I mean, you can also... Dude,

18:30

you can torrent any fucking movie too.

18:33

That's kinda cool. You can have, um,

18:36

you know, an anarchist manifesto

18:38

on one page and... Uh,

18:42

Breaking Bad on the other window and have

18:44

a good night, you know? Damn

18:49

good night. Trust me, you'll love

18:51

the files. Okay, I'm

18:54

def... Wait, hold on. The way you did

18:57

an evil laugh after saying you'll

19:00

love the files makes me think that whoever downloads

19:02

these is gonna get a computer virus. That was

19:04

a computer virusy evil laugh you just did. I

19:07

would be careful, but the files themselves are not

19:09

viruses. I would be

19:11

careful when you're on the site. What do you

19:13

mean? How so? In my recommendation. Oh,

19:16

careful like on Pirate Bay or careful reading the

19:18

documents? Like are they gonna... On Pirate Bay or

19:20

on Pirate Bay. Okay.

19:22

Someone... I hope... Someone will do this. Somebody will

19:24

go in search of the files and like

19:27

send me a message and be like, this is what it is.

19:30

Somebody do that if you're listening to this and

19:32

you just have no life and

19:35

nothing else to do. Um, go

19:37

download this guy's files, um,

19:41

on a computer that has no sensitive

19:43

information on it. And,

19:45

uh, let me know what they say.

19:49

The best part is I wasn't even the one who wrote

19:51

the files. Who wrote the files? I

19:54

have no idea. I have

19:56

no idea. I just... I just made

19:59

them my religion. I read them okay

20:05

so wait so you're a you're also you're

20:08

you're not even a profit you're a disciple

20:10

and you have like you have like this

20:12

it's a pole pyramid scheme you have a

20:14

disciples underneath you but you yourself

20:16

are a disciple yes

20:20

if you want to find out to Oton you're

20:22

gonna have to look at that look it up

20:28

well I hope this I

20:31

hope this works out for you man I really

20:33

do thank you and

20:35

man don't worry about it whether or not it works out

20:37

it's not the point and the point is

20:40

if I tried and dude

20:42

kudos to you as well you know cuz you

20:44

you you had you you also had to put

20:46

a lot of line to get to this point

20:49

and I got salute you fought your courage

20:51

and like get wearing the gecko suit and

20:54

for doing all this for everyone thank you

20:56

thanks man she's very sweet you

20:58

say I appreciate it you're welcome

21:01

you know what you're a charming guy and

21:03

I understand why people join your cult thank

21:07

you thank you but I hope I also help

21:09

them to be free and

21:11

like in general in their lives I hope

21:13

that so that's the main thing

21:15

I'm after you know Dan is

21:17

there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer

21:19

before we go yes

21:23

during my time in prison I asked them because

21:25

two or three riots and they tried to kill

21:27

me because they thought I was an evil spirit

21:29

that's all I want to say peace out later

21:32

Dan shout out

21:34

to whatever

21:37

brave soul risks

21:39

that computer virus to download those files

21:41

I'm curious what's on them wouldn't be

21:43

funny if it was just like Harry

21:45

Potter or some shit now

21:49

I gotta know I might just download I'm not gonna

21:51

download there's no way I'm gonna

21:53

download them well

21:55

that was fun that was interesting I

21:58

don't know what I'm also I am curious what undisclosed

22:00

location he lives in. It sounds... It

22:03

could have been China, I guess? I

22:06

don't know. Uh... Maybe...

22:08

I don't know.

22:11

Wouldn't it be... I would be very curious, like, if somebody eventually

22:13

reaches out to me and is like, hey man, I listened to

22:15

that episode of your podcast where you talked to the guy who

22:18

was trying to convert people. I downloaded

22:20

the books off of the Pirate Bay.

22:22

Everything made perfect sense to me, and

22:25

now I also live in an undisclosed

22:27

Asian location. I'm hanging

22:29

out with this guy, and we're gonna go kill a

22:31

bunch of people. No, we're gonna... We're having a good

22:33

time. And, uh, yeah. That'd

22:35

be... That'd be cool. Maybe this

22:37

changes someone's life, I guess? I

22:40

don't know. Anyway. Thanks

22:42

for calling, Dan. Hey folks, this is

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our dogs. hello

25:57

what's your name sir i'm more

26:01

Mark. What's up, Mark? Not

26:03

much. In my

26:05

text, I basically kind of faded.

26:07

I kind of just wanted to

26:09

know if the way I'm living is

26:13

okay and appropriate, or should I

26:15

more or less come clean and

26:17

kind of stop? What

26:22

is the way you're living? Tell me what

26:25

that means. Sure. So,

26:29

honestly, in my mind, I think I got it

26:31

great. I'm a stay-at-home dad, take care

26:33

of my kids, stay at home. I don't

26:35

try to abuse it too much, considering

26:38

I love playing video

26:40

games, staying up late at

26:42

night. In fact, I

26:44

would say I live a dual life. In

26:47

the daytime, I'm taking

26:49

care of my kids poorly.

26:54

I'm

26:56

more or less lying to my wife every minute to

27:00

avoid having a conversation about

27:02

my habits. For

27:06

instance, she knows I

27:08

smoke marijuana, but I

27:10

haven't been sober a

27:12

day in over eight years since I've

27:14

known her. I don't think

27:16

she knows that. There's a lot

27:19

of compounding things that have weighed on me

27:21

over the past six

27:23

years of our marriage. As

27:26

I'm deteriorating from doing

27:29

drugs and cigarettes two packs a

27:31

day, all

27:33

the money that it costs with inflation, how

27:35

do I... Should I be

27:38

changing? But in my mind, I'm selfish

27:40

because I know I'm living the

27:42

dream. A lot of, you know, just

27:44

based off of, like, the

27:46

abilities. Like, right now, I'm painting in my

27:49

smoke room in my house that I own,

27:51

you know? I don't own.

27:53

She owns it, but it's not my name. I got

27:55

married. Why

27:58

do you say you're taking care of your kids poorly? Well,

28:03

because I know that I could

28:06

put in more effort, but I

28:08

find myself, you know, putting the TV on, you

28:11

know, like we could go outside more often, I

28:13

just kick ass backyard, but I

28:15

don't want to be outside right now. You know, that kind of stuff.

28:18

What's your name or whatever name you want to go by? Mark,

28:21

Mark, Mark, Mark. Before,

28:25

you know, Mark, I'm, um, I'm

28:27

down to talk with you about all this stuff,

28:29

but I do feel as though

28:31

I need to ask you if you've ever talked

28:33

to a real therapist about this and if you

28:35

have what they've told you. Hmm.

28:40

Not necessarily. No, you know, I had a

28:44

an issue like come

28:46

up like a medical issue and

28:50

I tried to do like it was like over,

28:52

uh, what was

28:55

it? Coronavirus. It's

28:57

like 2020 peak 2020. And

29:00

I wanted to talk to somebody because, and this

29:03

is sound tough, like suicidal ideation, like the

29:05

pain was a lot, you know, and like

29:09

I thought like given cause I

29:11

had insurance finally after, you know, 20

29:14

years of working, I had finally decent

29:16

insurance through marriage. But

29:18

uh, so I thought, I don't mind. We'll give it

29:20

a try rather than spiral. But

29:23

it didn't really, you know, after the pain went

29:25

away, I just said, screw it. And

29:28

I kind of stopped talking to her. Yeah,

29:30

that then that kind of happens. Like you'll be in

29:32

a spot and so you'll be talking to your therapist

29:34

and then things will get a little bit better and

29:36

you'll be like, well, I don't ever need to do

29:38

this ever again. So

29:43

do you still feel that pain ever or are

29:45

you in a better spot? I'm

29:48

in a better spot. Okay. Well, that's good to

29:50

hear. That's uh, that's

29:52

encouraging. Yeah. You know, honestly,

29:54

like my life's been up, especially, you know, like

29:56

single mother life, you

29:59

know, like I've, I've, You know, I

30:01

had to work since I was 16, that kind of

30:03

stuff. And, you know, in your 20s, it's tough. But,

30:06

um, and look, by the way, I'm just gonna say,

30:08

like, again, I'm happy to talk to you about this,

30:11

but... The way that... And you

30:13

should talk to a real therapist to get their

30:15

perspective on it, because... The

30:17

way that you're talking about all this stuff, you seem...

30:20

Very distressed. Hmm.

30:28

Also... Do

30:30

you not... I mean, I'm just telling you

30:33

my observation. Do you not agree that you

30:35

seem kind of stressed? I'm

30:38

torn. Because inside I

30:40

know how I feel, but

30:42

I understand what's going on. Does that make

30:45

sense? Like... Tell what's... Inside, like, I don't

30:47

really care. Like, I'm living the dream, you

30:49

know? It's like... What's

30:51

your understanding of... When you... The fact is like...

30:53

When you said, when you said, I understand what's

30:55

going on, what's your understanding of

30:57

what's going on? Well,

31:01

for example, I smoke two packs a day. I know I

31:03

shouldn't, but I love it. You know what I mean? And,

31:06

you know, there are varying degrees of that. So it's

31:09

like I was saying earlier with my kids, like... I

31:11

know I could be a better parent. I had a

31:13

shitty childhood to a degree, you know? Like, we all

31:15

have. More or

31:17

less, but, uh... I

31:21

don't know, I feel like... You

31:25

know, as I... Watch

31:27

my life pass by, watch my kids grow

31:29

up. You know, it's like I reflect on

31:32

all those things. Where I could have

31:34

done something, or been a little bit better,

31:36

or maybe not yelled so much, or whatever. And,

31:40

like you said, maybe I should talk to somebody. Also,

31:44

maybe I could work it out through here, because...

31:46

So, hold on, let me... So,

31:49

deep down inside, I don't really care. You

31:51

know, like I said, I'm living the dream. If I... You

31:54

know, if I lose seven years from smoking, so

31:57

what? You know? And I'll have an internal battle

31:59

going on. So, so

32:01

again, I mean, like I said, I'm, I'm down

32:04

to talk to you. I am. I feel

32:06

as though I should

32:09

be responsible and tell you I am a dumbass

32:13

fucking guy in a gecko costume.

32:15

I am not an expert on

32:18

the brain. I

32:20

just, just giving you my disclaimer, just giving you my

32:22

disclaimer. And I always recommend

32:25

talking to a professional now that I've given you

32:27

my disclaimer. Let's

32:29

just talk as two guys on

32:31

the phone here. So this

32:34

is, this is like a thing. And I kind

32:36

of get this of like, yeah,

32:40

I know the various

32:42

ways. I like know

32:44

logically the various ways

32:47

that my life could be better. You know, I

32:49

could stop smoking pot. I

32:52

could be a better dad in this way. I could be a better

32:54

husband in this way. I could be a better person in this way.

32:56

Of course I know I could do this. I could do this. I

32:58

could do this. Of course I have

33:00

the knowledge that I could, of course,

33:02

that's the easy part. But

33:05

yet you're in your head and

33:07

you're like, well, what's

33:09

the point? Why? I

33:13

mean, I was a certain way. Yeah.

33:16

Yeah. And finding that

33:18

motivation of why giving

33:21

a shit about taking care of yourself

33:24

and giving a shit about these

33:27

things is

33:30

a science that I,

33:33

I mean, people study it. That's why I do

33:36

think you should go to see a person. But

33:38

I mean, anecdotally, me personally, it's a science that

33:40

I have attempted to figure out as well because

33:42

it's, it's hard, man. When you've

33:44

lost your, like, not

33:47

will to live, but like your will to improve

33:50

or whatever,

33:52

you're like deep in a fog, you

33:54

know? And let me

33:57

just throw some shit out there, anecdotally.

34:00

I've found that, um... So

34:04

like when I'm in a fog, and I'm

34:07

thinking to myself like, why

34:09

eat healthier? Why

34:11

go to the gym?

34:13

Why stop smoking pot? Why... Just

34:17

work on my career? Why... Try

34:21

to nurture my relationship? Like why do

34:23

anything? Who gives a shit? I

34:26

found that if I said to myself, let

34:29

me just take a step forward. Let

34:34

me do something. You

34:36

kind of do it, and you get a little

34:38

hit of dopamine from

34:41

that, and then you kind

34:43

of can turn that into some

34:45

momentum, right? So like

34:47

if you go a day without smoking

34:49

cigarettes, and you're like,

34:51

oh that actually... I actually feel a sense

34:55

of accomplishment from doing

34:57

that, and then you

34:59

kind of build momentum off of that, or if

35:01

you say to yourself I'm gonna, you

35:03

know, turn off the TV. I'm gonna... no

35:06

phones, no computer, no nothing. I'm gonna spend

35:08

the rest of the day or night looking

35:10

my children in the eyes. You're

35:13

like, oh that actually felt good. I... I...

35:16

No, but usually, and this is... I think I

35:18

fucking... I swear to God I've learned this over

35:20

and over and over again, and you forget it

35:23

every time, but when you are... when you're in

35:25

the fog, you

35:27

have no grasp

35:30

or understanding of how it feels to

35:32

be out of the fog. You

35:35

really don't. Even if you've been out

35:37

of the fog before. The only way to actually

35:40

remember what it feels like to be out of

35:42

the fog is to leave the fog. But

35:45

yet, it's of this weird contradiction, because when you're

35:47

in the fog, you have no desire to leave

35:49

the fog. Because you're

35:52

like, what's the point? But then when

35:54

you leave it for like a sec, when you do one little thing

35:56

to step out of your fog, and you

35:58

know, you go a day without... the cigarettes,

36:01

you take some time to be with your kids, you go

36:03

for a walk, you put your phone away, you do whatever

36:05

the thing, you were like, well what's the point of doing

36:07

this fucking thing? Then once you

36:09

do it, you understand the point. You're

36:12

not gonna understand the point before you do it.

36:14

That's why you're sitting there like, what's the point? Once

36:17

you do it, you remember the

36:19

point. So you kinda have

36:21

to like, start

36:26

building your momentum without the motivation.

36:30

And then, it's like that thing of like, action,

36:34

like motivation does

36:36

not precede action. Action precedes

36:39

motivation. You know what I'm talking about? Does

36:43

any of this make sense? I understand, I understand this, okay?

36:46

It really does, you know

36:48

like... By the way, I'm

36:50

talking to you on the

36:53

six pack millionaire with a helicopter, alright?

36:55

I'm doing my fair share of eating

36:57

pizza for breakfast and whatnot too, so

36:59

this is just how I think about

37:01

it. Right,

37:04

it totally makes sense. And like

37:06

you're saying about the fog, I

37:08

find myself in the fog and

37:12

when I reach out, there's no

37:15

problems except for the realization

37:17

that I've created a whole system around

37:19

me so that I don't

37:21

get caught. So I don't get in a

37:23

conversation that leads me to get out of

37:25

the fog. Besides maybe

37:27

this conversation and me talking

37:30

to myself as I'm standing in

37:32

a room. So

37:37

we were just talking about like, self-improvement,

37:42

motivational bullshit. That's one thing. And now

37:44

you're talking about like,

37:47

how open do you want to be with your wife? That's

37:49

another thing. Do

37:53

you think it's bad that I'm

37:55

not telling her? That's really what

37:57

it is. Is it? I mean, it's... feels

38:00

it but Well,

38:02

it's it's clearly bad. Just didn't just in

38:04

the sense that we can both see that

38:06

it's bothering you Right,

38:10

you know, but maybe that's in my mind

38:13

the consequence of Doing

38:15

something that means she wouldn't like if she

38:17

found out You know, how do you

38:19

think she would react if she found out that you were

38:21

you haven't been sober a day in eight years? Probably

38:27

take away access to my money You

38:30

know You

38:33

know, like I'm truly stay at home on it.

38:35

I'm dependent. Yeah, I guess I could go find

38:37

a job but You

38:40

know so it's like I like so there's a

38:42

little bit more on top of it because like

38:44

there are consequences that Trickle down that makes

38:46

me even more fearful step out of the fog.

38:48

Do you feel but do you feel like in

38:50

the Alright,

38:52

so you guys have a situation you guys have like a

38:54

traditional situation Like she goes and makes all the money and

38:56

then you take care of the kids Right,

39:01

but do you have no sense

39:04

of like Pride

39:07

or motivation in inter like do

39:09

you have a little thing under

39:11

your ass that goes like Okay,

39:14

you know I've formed this how long you been

39:16

with your wife Seven

39:20

years seven years it's like It's

39:24

like and here's the thing especially especially

39:26

about having kids Because you

39:28

kind of and I don't have kids. Um, I

39:32

am single and I have no kids, but here's my rant is

39:35

like When

39:38

if you're if you know kids and You

39:42

know you can go do

39:44

whatever you want with your life like

39:46

fucking go crazy smoke weed for a

39:48

billion years Do whatever

39:50

live that life, but do you have? You

39:53

entered this partnership To

39:56

start a family and

39:58

your wife is holding up her

40:00

part of the deal and

40:03

do you have any like fire under your

40:05

ass of being just of like

40:07

I gotta hold up my end of this deal Oh

40:13

and I'm not and I'm not saying that you know I'm not saying

40:15

that to you I'm not saying

40:17

that to you for you to I don't I

40:20

don't want you to sit here and like beat yourself up

40:22

and go into a spiral okay, it's

40:24

supposed to be motivating you know like let

40:27

me hold let me fucking hold up my end of the

40:29

deal You know that my wife's

40:31

doing whatever she does she's working hard. No, she's holding up her

40:33

end of the deal I don't have a fire. Let me hold

40:35

up my end of the deal Yeah,

40:40

I don't honestly you know like And

40:43

it kind of goes back to like me thing

40:46

earlier like there's the

40:50

Ins like the real me and in the

40:52

mask you know like I know when I'm

40:54

wearing the mask I should You

40:56

know care about these things. There's no

40:58

such thing as real you there's no

41:00

there You're not living you're not living

41:02

a double life. You are living your

41:04

life. There's no double life There's

41:07

the hormone there is you or

41:10

everything You are all the bad

41:12

things of your life, and you were all the

41:14

good things and they don't Negate

41:17

each other they some of

41:19

that some of them interact some of

41:21

them don't it's just your messy life

41:24

But there's no two lives is just

41:26

you as a human being in all

41:28

your good in all your bed So

41:33

I guess when it comes to like

41:35

am I able to hold up my share yeah, I'm

41:39

You know I'm leachy unfortunately You

41:42

know like I'm not saying I don't give in like you

41:44

know one of my courtents is the

41:46

family you know like This is

41:48

here. What do you think about this statement? I

41:50

tell this to a lot of people I'm

41:53

done. I won. You know in terms of

41:55

my mindset. I've already bred. You

41:57

know like maybe I can get you kids to breeding age Hopefully

42:00

get that but like I'm fine

42:02

if I die right now, you know that But

42:07

you're not done I Know

42:11

that you know, but it's hard because there's a

42:13

part of me that feels that you know, I

42:15

gotta Get rid of

42:17

that part of me. I guess

42:22

Cuz you're right. Why don't you just I

42:25

serious I what's your name

42:28

again? Mark

42:31

mark ice first of all, I seriously think you should go

42:33

talk to a Therapist who

42:35

would have better right because I'm a

42:38

guy in a gecko costume You should go talk to

42:40

a therapist, but I seriously think like dude like the

42:42

fact that you're like I'm

42:45

done. I mean You

42:48

I mean, I don't want to be

42:50

like done like you know, like I mean, oh, but like if

42:52

an asteroid hits me I'm

42:54

okay with that as long

42:56

as my kids survive, you know, like Yeah,

43:01

see like I can't tell my wife that you

43:04

know, I can't I can't I can't have that conversation

43:06

with her you know like You

43:10

know if I get old and my kids can truly

43:12

understand me like when they're you know beyond like the

43:15

4 5 6 age and they're more like 8 9 10 11 like You

43:19

know, it's like you're right. I guess I do need to

43:22

you know, phone like a life coach or something Well,

43:26

like I've been living like this for well

43:28

over a decade, you know, just in

43:31

my mind living the life Yeah,

43:33

but you talk about how to do it But

43:36

you you called me

43:38

you're talking about this. You're bothered

43:40

by it you give a shit You

43:44

can I've

43:46

been give a shit. I think myself. I wouldn't be

43:48

talking right now That's

43:52

very fair so

43:54

like dude, I just um

43:57

and again, I there the reason I don't

44:00

I don't like I don't try trying to say yell at people

44:02

or whatever because I don't there's no It's

44:04

not productive. There's no reason for you to

44:07

go into a like a self-hatred spiral It's

44:09

not productive for you or your family or

44:11

anyone, but it's like Look

44:13

man like when you wake up tomorrow and you talk

44:15

to your kids like like

44:19

put your phone away Try

44:22

just try just give you Give

44:24

yourself a day give yourself a day where

44:27

you're like I'm going today I

44:30

am going to hold up my end of the deal

44:32

and Like you

44:34

know if you really do feel like I've made it

44:38

Try your best to be grateful for whatever

44:40

is making you feel that way if it's

44:42

your wife Who's you

44:44

know going out working and

44:46

doing these things out of gratitude for

44:49

your wife? you say to yourself

44:51

I'm gonna hold up my end of the deal and Try

44:54

to be a good dad Even

44:56

if you even if you fail even if

44:59

whatever whatever is going on in your in

45:01

your addiction brain Just you can't you just

45:03

can't do it. Just if you just try

45:05

you might even feel good. Just trying you

45:08

know That's really

45:10

all I got for you. I think I

45:13

don't know if any this is helpful But

45:15

I understand I hope I seriously I

45:17

hope you wake up tomorrow morning, and you're like okay

45:19

today Let me just try to hold

45:21

up my end of the deal today Fair

45:26

enough, thanks for talking so

45:29

anything else you want to say to the people the computer before we go Take

45:36

care of the AI that we're all

45:38

gonna raise very soon. Have a great day

45:41

later on dog Soon

45:44

sooner or later our children won't need parents because

45:46

we can just do you'll be out

45:48

you're literally Actually kind of

45:50

crazy. You'll probably be able to just like buy

45:53

a nanny bot like from the

45:55

fucking Jetsons and the

45:57

nanny bot will raise

46:00

your kid for you and

46:02

the crazy thing, let

46:04

me talk about AI for a second just because he

46:06

brought it up. Here's the thing, AI, it is

46:10

like, it

46:12

is sometimes, in some situations,

46:16

it's smarter than people. Like,

46:20

AI is

46:22

a better therapist than several

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therapists that

46:28

I've been to in the past. It's

46:31

like objective, it's level.

46:34

Like, I'll talk to chat

46:36

GPT sometimes, and

46:38

I've talked to chat GPT enough that I'm like, you

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46:58

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47:02

I actually would trust an AI nanny. Anyway,

47:06

what were we just talking about? Oh yeah,

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that guy. I hope that- that is- I-

47:12

bro, I don't know. I

47:14

don't know. I don't know how that guy's gonna fix all

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47:23

don't know if it's brain chemistry or what

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47:31

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47:33

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47:35

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This is GECCO. How is your

50:24

life going Izzy? I've

50:26

called like hundreds of times. And

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here we are on the On

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the hundred and one just goes to

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show that persistence is

50:40

Yeah, what's up, Izzy?

50:42

How's it going? I

50:45

don't know. I've always like thought about this mom.

50:47

I was like, what will I say if you

50:49

ever answered it? Now

50:51

I don't know what to say. So I'm

50:53

gonna give some context of where I'm at right

50:56

now It is I'm recording this at 2 o'clock

50:58

in the morning Because

51:01

I'm so I'm going to Thailand in

51:03

about Like

51:09

8 hours or something and

51:12

it's like 12 hours like

51:14

the time difference is like Reversed

51:17

so I'm trying to pull an all-nighter and I

51:19

was like, well, what's gonna how do I do

51:21

that? Oh, I know what I'll do. I'll stream

51:24

But here's another thing is when I

51:26

record these podcasts You

51:28

know, typically I aim to have

51:30

my brain functioning at you know as

51:32

close to my brain never really functions at a

51:34

hundred percent But you know the closer

51:36

I can get to 100% the better I would say

51:40

But right now it's 2 o'clock in the morning. I'm gonna say I'm at

51:42

a good My

51:45

god, I'm gonna say I'm at a I'm at a So

51:48

I'm gonna say I'm at a 60%

51:52

actually feel pretty good right now. I

51:54

drank a Celsius shout out Celsius a drink of

51:56

Celsius right before I

51:58

started doing this. So If you ever

52:00

wanted to know what it's like to Drink

52:03

200 milligrams of caffeine at 1

52:06

o'clock in the morning I'll

52:08

let you guys know. I mean this I mean you'll know

52:10

by just listening to my voice. I guess That's

52:13

where I'm at. You know what's what's what's where

52:15

are you at Izzy? Then

52:18

I'm in Minnesota Okay

52:22

It's about one. It's gonna go to

52:24

bed, and I was like he's live.

52:27

This is my chance Am

52:29

I I'm not on the speakerphone am I? No,

52:33

okay Why

52:37

was I gonna say oh yeah, what are

52:39

you doing up so late Izzy? Well

52:42

like you I drink Celsius pretty late

52:44

in the day cuz I was working

52:46

and now I just can't sleep How

52:48

late in the day did you drink it I? Would

52:51

say about five o'clock five o'clock.

52:53

Yeah, they get you what made you want to drink

52:55

a Celsius at five o'clock Well

52:58

I work in HR and today was

53:00

a very long day of policies you

53:03

know that's super fun stuff and It

53:07

just drains you Why did

53:10

what's the worst HR? Situation

53:13

you've encountered in your years of working

53:15

HR So

53:17

okay funny story. I work with

53:19

my mother in H in the

53:22

same company and So I'm

53:24

her like I'm on the HR team of

53:27

The same company that she works in and she

53:29

complained to me about a

53:32

situation that was happening on her team and

53:35

Then I had to go to my boss and

53:37

be like so my mom told me cuz I

53:39

also was at home with her So

53:41

I was like my mom told me this at home I

53:44

hate to snitch, but like they're breaking policy,

53:46

so that had to be a

53:48

whole case open luckily I didn't have to

53:50

investigate it myself, but that was

53:52

pretty crazy That's

53:55

so did your mom get you the job, or did you get your

53:57

mom the job, or was it just kind of? Kismet

54:00

that you both wind it up at

54:03

the same place So

54:05

she works in like a different part of

54:07

the organization than me and she made the

54:09

introduction and I had to go through Like

54:11

the whole interview process. I

54:13

think there was definitely a little bit of nepotism

54:16

But I like to tell myself, you know that

54:18

she was really blown away by me Nep

54:21

it up. That's what I say. Why

54:23

not? Why not? If look

54:25

if your dad's the president then I think you should get

54:27

to be the president too There was

54:29

a guy who did that there was a

54:31

guy like George. What's his George W

54:33

Bush? He is

54:35

it George W George HW. Who's the son? I? Don't

54:39

know the president he he

54:41

napped harder than anyone's ever napped before Because

54:45

he had a genius thought I'm I have no idea what

54:47

I'm talking about. By the way, it's 2 o'clock in the

54:49

morning He he was like yo,

54:51

my dad was the president. Why don't I why

54:53

don't I just fucking go be

54:56

the president? And you know people make

54:58

some people think you know, that's a bad idea. That's like

55:00

from When there were kings and

55:02

stuff and the king would have a son and the

55:04

son was automatically the next king Whether or not he

55:06

was gonna be a shitty king But

55:10

he was like yo, they did that once Why

55:12

don't we why don't I just do it again? I'll just be

55:14

the president because my dad was the president again I have absolutely

55:17

no idea what I'm talking about. But you

55:19

know, I say net if you can nap nap if your

55:21

dad You know

55:23

writes if your dad is George Lucas

55:26

Fucking go go star in the next Star

55:28

Wars. Why not? Just do it, you

55:31

know I mean You

55:35

know my my dad Well,

55:38

my dad's a bankruptcy lawyer and my mom

55:40

is Is

55:42

also a lawyer and so You

55:46

know, they got me this job being

55:48

a fake therapist gecko

55:53

No, they didn't they I

55:56

mean, I got I napped a little bit. I napped a little

55:58

bit. I had a job working for my dad's

56:01

law firm YouTube channel where

56:03

I would edit videos

56:06

for him. So my dad, I guess he got me my

56:08

first editing job at his law firm. So

56:11

I napped. Go ahead and nap. Why

56:14

not? Yeah, but nothing's for real. Um,

56:19

so what, uh, what,

56:22

what do you, what do you want to do with your life? Dude?

56:26

I don't know, man. I just turned

56:29

21 and graduated college and

56:31

I just like, and then that phase

56:33

where there's some people having babies, some

56:35

people getting married, and

56:37

I just got to drink legally, so I'm

56:41

trying to figure it out. Who the hell is your 21

56:43

you said? Yeah. Who

56:45

the hell is having babies at 21? That

56:47

sounds awful. So many people. There's

56:49

so many people. The people that you

56:52

think shouldn't have babies are always the

56:54

one popping them out. Crazy.

56:58

Yeah, I don't know. Um, I

57:01

think, uh, yeah, I mean, having a kid

57:03

at 21 is probably, it's probably not a

57:05

good idea, but what the, what

57:07

the fuck do I know about how other people should

57:10

live their lives? I really mean that I really do. Um,

57:14

are you saying that you want to have a

57:16

child? Oh God, no,

57:18

not right now. God, no. Yeah.

57:21

What do you, what do you hope for the future? So

57:25

I hope to own a couple

57:27

goats and some cows. Are

57:31

you serious? Yeah,

57:33

I think that's what I'd be happy doing

57:36

for the rest of my life. How

57:38

much is a goat? I

57:40

have no clue. Well,

57:43

that's the thing is you, I mean, okay. So

57:46

you want one goat and like, let's, I mean, I want to,

57:48

if I could just do something with you right now that, you

57:50

know, I feel like I want, I want you

57:52

to get something out of this phone call. Why don't we, you

57:55

know, this is how we make, we, part

57:57

of, I think you got to make your goals.

58:00

defined an actual right

58:03

so I mean let's get into it

58:05

how what you want how many what do you want you

58:07

want one goat two goats how many goats I

58:10

would say two goats because I think they get lonely so

58:12

you have to have you all right two

58:14

goats and how many cows I

58:16

would say one because they're kind of big I don't

58:19

know if I can really do two of them do

58:21

cows not get lonely they

58:24

might but they'll have me so all

58:26

right so two goats one cow and then where

58:28

you where you gonna put these motherfuckers do you

58:30

have a you have a house well

58:33

I live in the Midwest and there's a lot

58:35

of land over here so I just figured it

58:37

pick something up and like build a shed all

58:40

right I'm going on Google right now how much is a

58:46

goat all right all

58:50

right the price of a goat can vary from

58:52

75 dollars bro you can

58:56

get bro you can get a goat

58:58

for $400 I can

59:00

buy so many goats with all right

59:02

so 800 all right I'm okay hold up

59:04

wait Izzy I'm I know you're joking

59:06

around but I'm being dead serious about this right now I

59:10

really am because I because you're telling me

59:12

this is your life dream and I'm sitting here

59:14

I'm on the computer Google and how much goats are and

59:16

I want this to be a thing where you realize that

59:19

you actually can achieve your dream by

59:21

only saving you know all right are you with

59:23

me on this I

59:25

am with you on it okay all

59:28

right all right so all right so you

59:30

need 800 bucks to get two goats how

59:34

much is a cow cow is

59:36

a little more expensive cow is $900 so you need to save $1,700

59:38

to achieve your life's goal that's

59:48

crazy that's crazy you

59:50

could do that see

59:52

you see this is the thing everyone thinks that

59:54

their goals are are out of reach

59:56

but you know one takes the time to you know

59:58

Google Google them So... I

1:00:02

just need to Google more. Well,

1:00:05

um, Izzy you said your name was? Yeah.

1:00:09

Oh wait, can you give me a name? I know you

1:00:11

give everyone names, cause you forget them, and then you remembered

1:00:13

mine, and I'm kinda let down by that, so I would

1:00:16

like you to give me a name. No, I'm

1:00:18

not gonna give you a name, you- I remembered your name!

1:00:21

Dang... It's the one time. Um...

1:00:26

I feel like, uh, well, is there anything you

1:00:28

wanted to actually talk about? No,

1:00:30

I just- I never thought you'd actually

1:00:32

answer, so I never, like, prepared anything

1:00:35

to talk about. So this

1:00:37

is just like... My goal- This

1:00:39

is a goal. It's been completed now. So

1:00:41

thank you. Well...

1:00:45

Alright. Um... $1700

1:00:48

bucks between you and your goal. Oh, you got it- You can-

1:00:51

You can save that... With your...

1:00:53

Izzy. You know... Uh... HR...

1:00:56

Nepi... Money. You can get there.

1:01:00

Definitely. Alright. Send

1:01:02

me- Send me a picture of the goat. Or

1:01:05

don't. I don't have enough sp- I don't have a- I don't have a lot of space

1:01:07

on my phone... Anymore. I- I- I've been

1:01:09

saving, uh... Uh, too many,

1:01:11

um... Uh...

1:01:15

I- I've been d- I've been downloading a lot of games... So,

1:01:18

I don't have any space on my phone, so actually don't send me a

1:01:20

picture of the goat. Um, Izzy, is there anything else

1:01:22

you wanna say to the people at the computer before we go? Um...

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Go buy more goats. Take

1:01:29

care, dog. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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