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102: Road Trip!

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it's hard after

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after the road again, in six days on the and

0:05

hit the the road, jack, and road runner and born to run

0:07

and running on empty and life in the fast and

0:09

lost highway and highway 1 revisited

0:11

have to, that get away from it ez

0:14

rider in thelma and louise and lost in america

0:16

into any road movies to name or even remember after

0:20

jack kerouac and route 66 and as as

0:22

it's after fan and the the journals of

0:24

lewis and clark after

0:25

all that, it

0:27

is hard for an american to just hit the

0:29

road that some expectations

0:33

retaining after

0:35

, mother died died three months

0:37

of visiting or in the hospital and three years in which

0:39

she'd been she'd he hit the road

0:42

and the car that used to be hers i kept trying

0:44

to be like you know what is what

0:46

is the realization i'm gonna come to

0:48

our what is the ceiling that i'm gonna settle

0:50

i'm and that

0:52

was what i kept feeling was like

0:55

am i feeling something am i feeling

0:57

and something i would really like if

0:59

a girl came on this begrudge ship i'm supposed to have

1:01

a revelation yeah that's what i i

1:03

saw enough i i you

1:05

know i was hoping that i would yeah be

1:08

somewhere i'd step out of the car and experience

1:11

the grandeur of the place and just be

1:13

like yeah this is what life is and like

1:15

this is like my mom dying and this

1:17

is like where i am and my life

1:19

and like you know but it didn't

1:22

happen like that

1:26

any roach of it's gonna feel longer than you think

1:28

of well and be tired and you won't

1:30

get a meal exactly when you're hungry he

1:32

never find a bad exactly when you want to go to sleep

1:36

and , not going to find out what it is and you got on

1:38

the road to find out in the first place place

1:40

you know that you know all that going into going and

1:43

you still we you still find

1:45

, the qusay about road trips

1:48

that would that road trip stands for is hop

1:52

that somewhere anywhere is

1:55

, than hear it somewhere on

1:57

the road i would turn into the person that

1:59

i want to be attorney

2:01

to the person that i believe i could be that i am

2:05

and com memorial day we

2:07

, the road you and me and a whole great

2:09

nation with high hopes and

2:11

expectations for the future and

2:15

he's , the journey journey bring a now

2:17

this our of radio of debbie

2:20

be easy chicago with this american life

2:22

i'm ira glass cities program

2:25

roger

2:30

one on , road net at

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veto veto age of ninety two

2:34

comedian george burns was so traveling all

2:37

the all argue rock

2:39

and briefly traveled with him with

2:41

the like when being on the road has been your job for

2:43

decades you

2:47

may have see am

2:49

i saying that right mercy mail

2:51

see in , road

2:53

trip in europe save a marriage marriage

2:56

that once a once a

2:59

, steady holiday

3:02

dishwasher pete loved riding the

3:04

holiday from city to city until

3:06

one last seven day trip to

3:09

come off the whole deal and

3:12

or popover ,

3:15

jesus achieves what everybody wants when they hit the

3:17

hit sexy , adventure

3:21

and it finds adventure pretty the

3:23

summer when we had rebounds

3:25

we've been playing some from the earliest days of our radio so

3:28

decades ago this show today as

3:30

one of those a

3:40

i plan on the road in road tuxedo

3:43

there are two ways you feel when you interview

3:46

a celebrity their does that make you

3:48

feel like a person then they're the

3:50

kind who make you feel like a blip there's

3:52

nothing wrong with a blip interview in fact

3:54

it's liberating you can say whatever

3:57

you want to them they will not remember

3:59

you

4:00

years ago reporter my iraq and was sent

4:02

to a magazine story about george burns

4:05

who at that point had been a movie star

4:07

a star of early television star

4:09

of radio vaudevillian a

4:12

comedian ninety two

4:15

for ninety two year old he was spending a lot of time on

4:17

the road when he live shows year

4:19

at conventions other one night gigs

4:22

cause we going stance in vegas in atlantic city

4:25

this is the story of road trip as

4:27

business my pleasure

4:30

the rigid entourage and it's entirety at that time

4:32

acquitted irving fine as then seventy

4:34

seven year old manager

4:36

modi jacobs

4:37

the piano player for that time twenty three

4:39

years

4:40

and start is good a marquee

4:43

they were kind men they were polite

4:45

man the caught a kid the way because

4:47

everybody kid

4:48

the reminded a lot of some of her older jewish relatives

4:51

the

4:53

it

5:01

nine o'clock friday night moscow

5:04

idaho university in we

5:06

sit around and the com

5:07

living room that connects george and irving's

5:10

bedrooms georgian irving always

5:12

get connected bedrooms with a living room and between

5:14

if they can in the

5:16

late afternoon when it's quiet this is where george

5:18

in urban like to said they watch television

5:21

we the trades right now more

5:23

d c or the sun is said in it's early

5:26

evening in general they

5:28

have three main topics conversation

5:30

the act the schedule and where they

5:32

won't eat your , typical

5:34

dialogue morty will say

5:36

where she eats and or me will say

5:39

the broiler row that the hotel steakhouse

5:42

and then george will say jahmal now

5:44

john's the handler who picked us up at the airport

5:46

in droves to the hotel and

5:48

, irving will say i think we should do the broiler

5:50

row and then george will

5:52

say jahmal know as john

5:55

and as john will say i'm making a reservation

5:57

at the in a room but not move towards

5:59

and on and on

6:02

and on it's like dialogue that

6:04

day

6:04

the man it would right if david mamet

6:06

scenes were absolutely nothing was is

6:08

the

6:17

we had done to the broiler ram

6:19

all to dinner there's this constant traffic of

6:21

fans and clean at one

6:23

for cheerleaders

6:24

there were in short skirts and tight sweaters

6:27

and they're nervous energy fills the room go

6:29

george go they scream over and over

6:31

again while they shake and will go and

6:34

do air splits and rattled their crepe paper

6:36

pompoms then floor

6:38

so over they run out in a single file

6:40

as if everything they do a spirit of a routine

6:43

then incomes the chef to ask for

6:45

george's autograph

6:47

the george burns like this intrusions

6:49

his nourished by them when

6:51

it finally quiet he says to me and people nice

6:55

because i'm

6:56

the border i'm a blip

6:57

that the public gets his full attention

7:00

he establishes eye contact with each approaching

7:02

san and he smiles at them and

7:04

them asked how they're doing

7:06

oh man he leaves the boy the

7:08

we'll choose the most complicated route

7:10

slowly threading his way to the tables

7:12

of the main dining room touching people on the

7:14

shoulder lightly and same things like don't

7:16

pay that chat

7:33

while we're on the road i probably see him

7:35

do his act five times each

7:38

time it sounds totally spontaneous

7:40

like is making up right there just riffing for

7:42

the crowds even though give or take or

7:44

take to is the exact same act he's

7:47

been doing for fifteen years

8:08

what's amazing about all this is that

8:10

on the surface the act doesn't seem to vary

8:13

from city to city but to george

8:15

is

8:15

colonel work in progress

8:17

every night he makes microscopic

8:19

changes maybe he'll decide

8:22

to sing young

8:22

car before old bones

8:24

when he does is he gets all worked out that

8:26

it thinks about it all day long the

8:29

different how he's been able to be the road for so

8:31

lives this is how he keeps the act

8:33

feeling fresh for his and

8:36

nine okay to punish me he

8:38

, a gag this act about people having to retire

8:41

when they're seventy he says

8:44

when i was seventy i had pimples

8:46

but one day george tries out a new line

8:48

i me he says when i was seventy

8:50

i had to birds eczema at

8:53

some sort a dirty but i'm not gonna be the one to tell

8:55

on

8:56

in fact i have tape of this of

8:58

myself lying to the nicest

9:00

man honor

9:01

allowed like

9:03

that is just

9:04

is that like hey as a young

9:08

some died he says it's never

9:10

okay is no not

9:13

supposed to be ah know is what i'm doing

9:16

what cuba when i was some has to say

9:18

that isn't

9:19

like idea

9:21

you're making it died his you know you don't have much use

9:23

the same or is to , everything

9:27

emerges as as as

9:29

rise friend susan love

9:31

reading opera of them are nice and

9:33

steady money

9:40

georgian or even can go on like this

9:42

for hours they go back and forth

9:45

and back and forth

9:46

and that night george toys out

9:48

the cuba zags emmeline it

9:50

doesn't get last on

9:52

the way home and

9:53

there was silent

9:55

georgia driver in the fried me in the

9:57

back of squeeze the hip to elbow between

9:59

the ravine and morning

10:01

then lead george's rambling voice cuts

10:03

to the darkness i'll never

10:06

do that again he says

10:09

quiet for a while more

10:12

marty he says

10:14

morrow night lads

10:16

then the conversation

10:17

the starts all over again

10:19

normally

10:26

when i think of going on the road i think of

10:28

waking up at any hour

10:29

i've not having to be anywhere

10:31

at a certain time you're on a big

10:33

adventure the rules no longer

10:35

apply hi there is no accountability

10:39

but that's that's

10:39

the road trip

10:41

i am on a very different kind of road trip

10:44

the road trip i'm

10:45

on is not about adventure and unpredictability

10:49

the road trip i'm on is about making sure

10:51

that everything is the same this

10:53

is the secret to george burns his longevity

10:56

of how he's been able to stay on the road for so

10:59

long without going crazy he

11:01

wakes up at a certain time he goes

11:03

to sleep at a certain time when

11:05

he goes on the road the like the driver to take

11:07

him to the airport in the late morning

11:10

when he agrees to booking it stipulated

11:12

as contract that he'll be provided with a back

11:14

was still the sit on a lightly

11:16

rehearsed orchestra an ashtray

11:18

to flick his ashes and and a pre show

11:21

speed ball made up of a couple of martinis

11:23

chased by a cup of black coffee he

11:26

, only smoked eel productive in

11:28

the afternoon he likes to take a two hour nap

11:31

he

11:31

hate fresh fruit and vegetables

11:33

by the end of our time together i could

11:35

order for him in a restaurant of necessary

11:38

he , the shrimp cocktails he likes

11:40

roast chicken he likes his martinis

11:43

but doesn't care what brand of liquor their made with

11:45

he just wants them to come one after the other

11:48

is ninety two and known can tell him

11:50

what is good or bad for him to put in his own

11:52

mouth mouth goes for what

11:54

comes out of it as , vermouth

11:56

kick in his conversation tends to get

11:58

naughty

11:59

one night he recites to me

12:02

a particularly memorable them rec that

12:04

involves a mouse

12:06

the phrase hickory degree dog and

12:08

a reference to his own private birds morning

12:11

irving laugh but i don't know what to do if

12:13

i left to hard i'm scared they're going to think

12:16

i'm some sort of like girl and if i don't

12:18

that i'm a pill no fun at all

12:21

i feel as if i'm in another country with

12:23

different customs and mores and

12:25

so i simply try every possible reaction

12:28

one after the other last seen groaning

12:30

shaking my head waiting for something

12:32

that

12:32

the work

12:37

the pace is very

12:39

slow i wake

12:41

up in the morning drink coffee wait

12:44

for evans call mostly

12:46

i have free time i lay

12:48

on lay variety of queen size bed in

12:51

a variety of shag carpet hotel rooms

12:53

and stare at the ceiling one

12:55

day irving calls to invite me to talk to

12:57

george is he

12:58

the breakfast was

13:00

illnesses

13:01

man

13:03

yeah could also be for

13:05

you

13:09

yes

13:13

george

13:16

though

13:18

are

13:20

you

13:23

you're just wearing a sick days

13:25

terry cloth bathrobe days pajamas

13:27

and slippers his stiff gray to

13:29

pay is somewhere and the other room it's

13:32

darlene to see the man that lives underneath

13:34

the hair the stacked heeled shoes

13:36

the chris tuxedo he looks

13:38

vulnerable birdlike i

13:41

have this realization this

13:43

will be a man who i will get to know in the moment

13:45

the between words

13:55

even on a road trip designed to avoid

13:57

surprises i saw my so surprised

13:59

by the

13:59

the man

14:01

my view them comes to change is this more

14:03

time together

14:15

eleven am reno nevada valleys

14:18

hotel i'm ,

14:20

to keep my focus but i'm tired

14:23

tired of the empty hours tired of waiting

14:25

for irving to call when

14:27

i call my boyfriend his answering machine

14:29

picks up

14:30

finally i take the elevator to the hotel casino

14:33

i play the slot machines mindlessly pulling

14:35

down the handle somehow

14:37

, signs man man

14:39

playing the quarter slots i'm risking

14:42

a grand total of ten dollars

14:44

but his positive that i will return home

14:46

have been handed over the title the my car

14:49

he goes away than comes back and tells me it's

14:51

time to time he goes away

14:53

then comes back city minutes later and tells

14:55

me again and i'm annoyed it

14:57

is now again

14:58

the encouraged to save me

15:00

from financial ruin he asked me to take to

15:02

take with him urban

15:05

takes my hand and loop surpassed his bed

15:07

elbow arm , arm withdraw

15:10

past places with names like the mapes

15:12

hotel and the liberty bell saloon

15:15

the way irving is almost balancing down the street

15:18

lets me know he's enjoying that we come off

15:20

like a mismatched couple that i am is babe

15:22

and he is might silver haired energetic sugar

15:24

daddy

15:26

murphy time irving does the talking

15:28

he tells him but has passed

15:30

it's a history of twentieth century show business

15:33

big jobs at cbs radio in

15:35

the movie studios jack benny

15:37

hired him to be the president of his production

15:39

company it's , long story

15:42

every once in awhile though irving ask me personal

15:44

questions about my family

15:46

about my friends about my boyfriend

15:48

and then we had back to the hotel

15:50

and when we get to my room he dropped

15:53

me up with this thought he says leave

15:55

your boyfriend he's no good

15:57

find someone else

15:59

and he walks away and i stand

16:01

there feeling conflicted i

16:03

think i'm no longer a blip the urbane

16:06

but who does he think he is he doesn't

16:08

no me he's never met my boyfriend

16:11

a couple a years later i follow

16:13

his advice

16:14

every once in awhile i think back

16:17

trying to remember what it was it i said to

16:19

him what , him to distill

16:21

this conclusion from my small talk how

16:24

come he knew something that took so long

16:27

for me to figure out all

16:29

i could come up with was how transparent

16:31

i must have seemed these moon transparent

16:34

like teenagers are to me

16:36

i mean how many different human stories

16:38

the there

16:39

these minute already been there

16:48

finally run the road for so long

16:50

georges treating me like old nez

16:52

which is where you want to be with your age

16:55

when irving let me into georgia sweet before

16:57

i sell george emerges from his

16:59

room wayne shiny patent leather loafers

17:01

a crisp white shirt a bow tie

17:04

and they need lanes paisley dressing gown

17:07

his palace he doesn't

17:09

want to put on his tuxedo slacks until the very

17:11

last minute so they don't lose their

17:13

sharp crease

17:15

in the pocket of his pants is a watched

17:17

chain on the watched chain

17:19

is graces tiny gold wedding ring

17:22

the way he tells

17:23

story of their marriage is that he discovered

17:25

his one true talent when he met gracie

17:28

allen and he stayed married to her for thirty

17:30

eight years

17:31

he was your brain to the act the one

17:33

who wrote almost every word she said but

17:36

she was the one who the public love

17:39

he tells me that since her death and nineteen sixty

17:41

four he visits her once a month

17:43

if forest lawn cemetery so he can tell

17:45

her what's been going on in his life

17:48

the first is need to see or was so great

17:50

that he'd go every day

17:52

the night he shows me the way

17:53

my bet she

17:56

died

18:04

that's what

18:06

, love racing guy that like bobby now

18:08

said the be judged judged geoscope

18:12

your choice

18:17

a wonderful thing to do

18:19

them

18:23

that i mean did it take you a long time

18:25

well i live better or

18:27

for said she thought nine and princess

18:30

di

18:37

industry get back to work out

18:40

, doors right away uh-huh uh-huh

18:43

that's got nothing to do to shellfish

18:45

she's got that

18:49

you're doing iraq you're making iraq living

18:51

right at that time you worry financially

18:54

solvent the mean you had plenty of money wasn't him

18:56

more it is or take a liability money

18:58

now i'm working on the

19:00

you enjoy yeah that's right

19:02

to at that time was it more to sort

19:04

of you notice tonight

19:06

we get know the to turn around or would you do

19:08

some reason you sit on the fly oh

19:12

don't get it right grab

19:15

, hours hours cry

19:17

rise you drive find the norm what norm are

19:20

you go are work you

19:23

feel bad originally

19:26

come on the field

19:34

one night years later i was sitting

19:37

in a restaurant in west los angeles when

19:39

i saw george command

19:40

who's with a couple a man and a younger

19:43

woman and they all hovered around him

19:45

he had age so much he

19:48

moves slowly and was so too

19:49

he didn't seem to be lost inside the dark

19:51

suit he was wearing the ,

19:54

slipped into read foods and ordered dinner i

19:56

think the waiter bride george a martini when

19:59

it

19:59

time to go i walked right by him but

20:02

i didn't say hello the

20:04

georgia was always a blip

20:06

the further friendly face

20:07

the right

20:15

the wagon in los angeles lately

20:18

she has the co hosted food podcast

20:20

the know i am nice because

20:25

no he

20:29

right it can be a profound tested any relationship

20:32

expectations are high

20:33

everybody looking for a break from regular life

20:36

moving very good time

20:38

and yet at the same time you're and circumstances

20:40

i can make anybody irritable

20:42

then you're together all

20:44

the time

20:46

all the time

20:48

it it

20:49

the road trip can save a marriage or destroy

20:51

it

20:52

the bring you this case example by

20:54

coming rivera and candido tirado and

20:57

in iraq and cafe and guess which east

20:59

coast city they set it

21:01

up a friend of crime is cited get married in italy

21:03

the friend was already married that

21:06

i'm the friend in auto repair and

21:09

the he decided to get married again

21:11

on our anniversary

21:12

in italy

21:13

the parents present

21:15

though on we think it's a good idea but we're not really

21:17

sure if we want to go with she invites us to the wedding

21:19

and we're not really sure to the had gone

21:21

to italy the year before and

21:24

we're kind of not getting along

21:26

we we're we're not communicating

21:28

ends kind of angry at each other and

21:30

of is so they exist at

21:32

this atmosphere this atmosphere malaise

21:34

in the house

21:35

the mayonnaise

21:39

that was or with low do you want

21:41

to call his firing of

21:45

changing the t v channel i mean we fly by

21:48

but that was like a malays okay whatever mccain

21:53

okay so

21:56

we're in malaysia

21:57

and he

21:59

living

21:59

haven't decided yet and we get a phone call from

22:02

paris from a friend of ours melissa

22:04

who invites us to save her house and parents

22:07

and be tell her about the wedding in italy

22:09

and she goes wanted to come stay with me and them all

22:11

together to elite setting that's that's

22:13

idea of a weekend kind of

22:16

the train or linear for up here when

22:19

she says paris the young good

22:21

idea this is an obsession

22:23

ever since i know much he says oh my god

22:25

paris and my go parents who the every don't exist

22:28

or every movie that has paris

22:30

in the backdrop we see

22:32

every magazine article looked down below

22:34

paris so i decided

22:37

to quench the thirst

22:39

that kind of

22:40

okay

22:42

though i'm really site and i'm thinking okay

22:44

maybe we go to paris we can work on

22:46

are you know

22:47

i lay me so

22:52

next thing we know

22:54

where in paris

22:55

and it's better than ever thought it could be

22:58

a with the light was amazing

22:59

the architecture the made a fool are the foods

23:01

it is it was wonderful with

23:04

mulligan the person

23:06

that was gonna give us the apartment the

23:08

in

23:08

the way to be found and we call

23:11

her apartment and they they say the

23:13

numbers disconnected

23:14

so we're so we

23:16

get we get a hotel room in the in the left

23:18

bank and i'm just really overly

23:21

excited and one day and our

23:23

way to the eiffel tower we we ah

23:26

go through the georgina luxembourg

23:28

the beautiful parks and at

23:30

of the corner of my i see chess

23:33

tables and

23:36

like we said before he's a testament to the national

23:38

mastery ranks that isn't the top of percent

23:40

of this and of the united states so

23:43

the last thing last thing to see the test table sites

23:45

homes

23:45

the

23:47

i tell them look as he will get a puppet

23:49

silver there isn't a really great all these little kid

23:52

looks tennis courts wow this

23:54

and

23:54

logan as tables over here sell

23:57

c

23:58

though we're in grade run

23:59

the big city for city of love

24:02

and we're supposed to be no trying to reconnect

24:04

and and started to our malays

24:06

and he spent all his time in paris playing chess

24:09

and i spent my

24:09

i'm i'm going to museums

24:12

stuff like that who can and

24:16

it's

24:16

so then time to go to the wedding

24:18

the week passes and we

24:21

take a train overnight for paris

24:23

now live in a modern i was

24:25

using

24:28

we get who are molinar aha

24:30

friend

24:31

we call her and she said the i'll be than twenty five

24:33

minutes the pick us up in three

24:36

hours and are so

24:38

there's a sign that we shouldn't be there

24:40

we should be in paris where could be playing chess

24:44

and comedy why go back

24:45

because he because i knew that soon as we go back

24:47

to party would play chess says like no way i want

24:50

to vacations are going to be in italy we're

24:52

going to support my friend i don't want to hear any i don't

24:54

want to hear the words

24:55

and or her friend lives like we

24:57

thought to live in the city but he really liz

25:00

like in arkansas you know how

25:02

country saw now

25:05

we just thought in this house in arkansas

25:08

what arkansas median and for me to lay off

25:11

and

25:13

and see drops of their will have

25:15

non english spanish speaking parents

25:19

she leads to the country house

25:21

lisa there

25:22

then she cancelled the wedding

25:24

and she decides

25:27

that even to tell apparently she's married

25:29

so

25:32

the we spend a week along

25:34

with her parents

25:35

we

25:38

wasn't that bad they were pretty nice

25:40

and and a drunk a couple of times

25:42

and been

25:44

the crimean of chestnuts and they were very nice

25:46

to us but and he's complaining again

25:48

there's no tears everything's all the looks like a tomb

25:50

of said there's no chess players here i want

25:52

to leave

25:52

i get claustrophobic so

25:55

, and we are

25:57

fighting the war more

25:58

there fighting more more my friend

26:01

asks me if i support her decision

26:03

about the threat heads or know i mean you you

26:05

know you have thirty five years old he should tell you parents

26:07

marion

26:09

the matter because he says something to me

26:11

he's with him and i have the one

26:13

of the hugest fight and we break off and

26:15

he says you know

26:16

i'm going by i'm glad to paris and i'm like oh

26:21

some like of but i'm into i

26:23

have all the passports i take care of

26:25

the tickets i'm the one that middle the phone calls

26:27

and french and italians so item okay

26:29

you can figure out on your own how to get back to paris

26:32

you can go say couldn't figure

26:34

out how to get packs get packs me

26:37

i knew how go back i use the know how speak

26:39

the language to get back on ira

26:42

so the next stage

26:44

of this whole trip is to go to course

26:46

ago and we had made plensa we

26:49

all go so my friend is matt they're matt they're

26:51

and were fighting and we winds

26:53

up and

26:53

the gone now course we go

26:56

on the you been there by like

26:58

the ugliest place i've ever been so

27:01

and this these ugly rise

27:03

coming out from the ground so

27:07

i'm not really happy here

27:09

i'm actually more more claustrophobic

27:11

is now i'm in another country though

27:13

we drive down and we turn the mountain

27:16

and we got to the south of

27:18

worth it in corsica which is bonifacio

27:20

five years the southernmost city

27:22

the turn

27:24

we come up into this beautiful home

27:28

and ah the people they went camping

27:31

well we will go camping with them because our camp

27:33

in new york city us i'm not traveling

27:35

across the world to go camping

27:37

so

27:40

they get very angry a lot of cause the earth

27:42

another thing to be angry about

27:44

and we go to when fatuous like

27:46

the most more the most beautiful places i've

27:48

ever been some

27:49

built into the rocket it looks like monaco

27:51

has those kind of light three romantic

27:54

and our friend justice off

27:56

in in a hotel and she has i'll see you next week

27:58

and she destroys off

27:59

now we'll have work will

28:02

have chess will have a friend

28:04

and we have less between us

28:06

as i would general malaise sense

28:11

the silver

28:14

we start the first one first really talking

28:16

to each other and he's really of say like you know

28:18

this really sucks i can believe that he did this to

28:20

me you know i could have been in paris and but

28:22

emmys are taking walks taking mean we have there's really

28:24

not much else to do and so i'm

28:26

one morning one morning hurry because you are

28:29

leaving that oh there's a beautiful priest or towns

28:32

and and as we start kind

28:34

of connecting it's hockey but the history one

28:37

morning me reading and

28:38

the eating breakfast and a beautiful restaurant that's

28:40

built into the rock and

28:43

it's very clear day

28:45

and we're in the patio and you can see sardinia

28:48

the dynamism wow it seemed to

28:51

puerto rican from the bra them we're here and

28:53

we see sorry the union and the seat awful day

28:56

the

28:57

they look over secondly don't like wow

29:00

i'm really glad i'm sharing this with him

29:01

i was feeling the same way

29:04

though sunday morning with the

29:06

seventh day she calls and she says okay be

29:08

dances and twenty min we got on

29:10

his twenty minutes she comes and we

29:12

get back in the car and it took twelve

29:15

hours to get back to for median

29:17

any to there's a long ride as a serene

29:19

and is another long ride in italy and in

29:21

those twelve hours nobody said a word

29:23

the and see they'd see

29:25

was really upset and where we were kind of feeling

29:28

good for we just reading the bible

29:30

like okay was insane

29:31

the next morning we pack and

29:33

we supposed to be leaving about for the catch the

29:35

five o'clock train

29:37

then and she was she com somewhere

29:39

about twelve o'clock to cause com and over

29:41

soon as to talk to me privately and she brings

29:43

me into this office in her she

29:45

has a

29:46

a really big house and she says the i'm

29:48

really mad at you because you know you didn't

29:50

talk to me in the way back from corsica and

29:53

ah you know i don't know what's up with you and

29:55

and you didn't go

29:56

the you to go camping with me you

29:59

you are

29:59

you went to paris firth and you said you

30:02

were going to come here earlier and and but you then

30:04

you were here too long in my house and you use every

30:06

you know use up to you will use a washing machine

30:08

and like my god make up your mind why you

30:10

would you know if you're upsetting me to pick something

30:12

just

30:12

yeah

30:14

the so confusing and then it dawned on me

30:16

kind of in a

30:18

this might didn't either friendship i thought it was and i'm

30:20

like well you know what like an amateur

30:22

deal with this i'm not here to like find get out

30:24

of my house right now so i get a good

30:27

candy that was in the back you're playing chess

30:29

then i carry my chest votes which has i'm

30:31

at work and my chessboard

30:33

you know when we're we're happy so i don't

30:35

feel like a tesla know anymore so it's okay so

30:37

i got some we have to leave

30:38

so we pack and those were packing

30:41

i know something's gonna happen good we have to have that blow

30:43

up you know we go our scientists a

30:45

black cloud rent top of the house i

30:49

started to rain on top of

30:51

the house it wasn't raining any other place

30:53

that was sun all over the place

30:55

as seven top of the house saw house

30:58

okay this okay this universe you're playing

31:00

a trick on those of die laughing the

31:02

her mother says take them to the train

31:05

station

31:05

it is no

31:07

and anything so i know we're not going to make

31:09

it to a train station because in the car we gonna come

31:11

to blows so ,

31:13

takes the back rows down the tomato

31:15

feals and she

31:18

begins to berate us and she and she says

31:20

she just rehashing the whole argument all over

31:22

again and how they we couldn't make it on

31:24

our own to the to the train station but we

31:26

had done

31:27

marwan you make it on your

31:29

and he had descended on the floor in arkansas

31:31

that's worse

31:35

that's so ,

31:38

so she says you have you don't let me speak

31:41

i'm gonna throw you out of the

31:41

are submitted growth our that we see this

31:45

the get out of the cars you take solar bag

31:47

now and she's like get here i never want to see

31:49

you again

31:50

the traffic a me that's like fifty cars

31:52

now look and other people get all the cars

31:55

and of this with our bags walking

31:57

down this

31:58

this road or we have so

32:00

we put the back in the call

32:02

as early we feel free so

32:05

laughing we start laughing and

32:07

we never saw so free and this three weeks

32:09

and as we walked on this the i was

32:11

like five miles away from the train station as

32:13

we walked down the straight narrow road

32:16

last i think about the

32:18

soldiers and whoa what so when the

32:21

war was over and they will gone home and

32:24

they have won the

32:26

, and

32:29

carbon and i awoke

32:31

that it and we talked about that this war

32:33

that center and

32:36

and it just felt so peaceful

32:38

and

32:38

oh right i fell in love again is

32:40

really beautiful

32:46

added

32:46

thank you very much

32:50

there and can be no toronto told the story

32:52

during an evening of traveling stories held by the moth

32:55

they are still together this year

32:57

long as you telling that story on stage they

32:59

celebrated their twenty eighth wedding anniversary

33:02

they see this trip taught them how to travel

33:04

together the playwright com

33:06

it's play like gringo this markets

33:08

twenty six year running off broadway

33:10

in new york city coming

33:13

up the retail price of one wish

33:15

the five dollars ten dollars more

33:18

then other discoveries on the road

33:20

than a minute in chicago public radio

33:23

our program continues

33:27

the american life i'm ira glass he to

33:29

get a program of course is is a theme invite

33:31

a variety of writers and performers who tackle

33:33

that theme they show while

33:36

i to be bore still out and beaches mountains

33:38

and far from their own homes

33:40

road trip

33:41

the pleasures and disappointments

33:43

of life on the road

33:45

we've arrived at three of our program act three

33:48

basements holiday

33:49

so i'm to the shows a rerun

33:51

and very long time listeners to

33:53

a program may remember dishwasher pete

33:56

he'd spent years traveling

33:58

from state to state was this is and publishing

34:01

this xiii and that he made called dishwasher

34:04

that you would marry back then if you would send them one dollar

34:07

his goal was to wash dishes in all

34:09

fifty states and to do that what

34:12

he would do is that he would usually get a job and

34:14

the in a place where few weeks then take

34:16

the greyhound bus to the next town and

34:19

get another job i do we spent a lot of

34:21

time on buses when

34:23

you put together at this next story was living

34:25

in portland but he was only too happy

34:28

the get back on a bus

34:30

i like riding greyhound

34:31

the last eight years i figure i've run at least

34:34

a hundred thousand miles and greyhound and

34:36

, about for solid muscle my life

34:38

have been spent cooped up in their buses i

34:41

would consider my home away from home if

34:43

only home had only i what

34:45

i like most of our greyhound is how long it

34:47

takes to get anywhere on the bus the

34:49

airline passengers left complain about the five

34:51

excruciatingly long hours it takes to fly

34:54

from coast to coast on , bus

34:56

that same distance takes three full days

34:58

cover which is what is think is

35:00

but the perfect amount of time for such a trip and

35:03

unlike fairplay know ,

35:05

are shown on greyhound so headsets handed

35:08

out so free magazines available

35:10

know waitresses force bags of pants on you every

35:12

five minutes on the bus

35:15

passengers are largely left alone with their thoughts

35:21

the theory about

35:24

people who ride greyhound about

35:26

how as we sit on the bus for hours and

35:28

days waiting to reach our destination we

35:30

, what i call a transitional states

35:33

thinking about where we're coming from and where

35:35

we're going to to know i do

35:38

and for my talking to other people on the bus and

35:40

many others do as well

35:47

for example as one group i've written and let

35:49

go south to crescent city california home

35:52

with a pelican bay maximum security prison

35:55

i wrote nexus guy who'd been locked away for fourteen

35:58

years and i just got no

35:59

across the aisle for me was a teenager with

36:02

a buzz cut on his way to

36:04

we talked for a while the mostly we just sat

36:06

thought about the different places we were headed

36:15

for a long time i've been wanting to tape record stories

36:17

i've heard on the bus the document this phenomenon

36:20

that i've been trying to figure out was

36:22

, excited when this american life offered to send

36:24

me on a greyhound trip with a fancy tape

36:26

recorder and a seven day a mirror pass for

36:29

week like a want any grand route i chose

36:31

and test my theory about theory bus i

36:34

packed up all of a peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and

36:36

a bunch of bananas and stepped on a greyhound spent

36:39

, first ten hours telling down the coast of oregon oregon

36:42

so eager to talk with the other passengers stay

36:44

awake all night even though everyone else the sleeping

36:47

it wasn't until we stuff for breakfast across

36:49

the city has finally able to strike up a conversation

36:53

he was about fifty years old for the

36:55

bushy beard and one olive green army

36:57

jacket

36:58

the large wooden crucifix dangled from his neck

37:01

videos an itinerant preacher and

37:03

that greyhound was a chapel why

37:06

, priests in my own time in a not

37:08

in specific time when try to avoid

37:10

audiences when i do speak that way i i

37:13

reduce the possibility that rejects in

37:15

or in ssssss

37:17

at mockery ssssss he avoids

37:21

the avoid audiences and who are you talking to

37:23

well see i believe in transmission

37:25

of voice or spirits and transmit three

37:28

hundred sixty degrees into the world times

37:31

three hundred sixty degrees and

37:33

, greyhounds are conducive for you

37:35

for your i traveling ministry ministry

37:38

my most is done by

37:41

myself to speaking into the air though without another human

37:43

being the human there you

37:46

might be one of the first human beings as

37:48

ever really listen to me or acknowledged that in

37:50

my presence

37:52

these ministry is not limited to the teachings

37:54

of christ but also included a healthy dose

37:56

of praise for natural medicine like

37:58

cannabis and opium

38:00

i bet i was agreeing with them when i said that

38:02

it did seem ridiculous that pharmaceutical companies

38:05

simply so nature back to us but

38:07

, took offense and pulled out a bottle of amber

38:09

saw what he described as sixty

38:11

percent grain alcohol has been the case

38:14

case is a is as

38:17

a chemical similar to the the naturally

38:19

the cocaine naturally are

38:21

so the person and put

38:23

the first well it's just a little

38:25

topical anesthetic which just why to local number

38:28

and are so they prefer they talk

38:30

about to say they things

38:33

of that nature discipline certainly

38:35

not in central nervous system are

38:37

relax and like the opium poppy which

38:39

, more valuable player

38:42

it's been really

38:46

the blog

38:51

the that numbing your whole massive well

38:54

, takes a takes about ten fifteen

38:56

seconds if not accept

38:58

x was there isn't a meaty the first first

39:01

it is it is actually believe it

39:03

or not numbing

39:06

and very plus

39:09

he continued talking for the became increasingly

39:11

difficult to understand what you're saying as a speech

39:13

flirt the end of our fifteen

39:16

minute talk tommy as the longest

39:18

conversation he had in the last three and a half

39:20

years he got

39:22

on a northbound bus bound for portland and

39:24

i continued on to san francisco

39:26

there

39:32

it is go i wrote an hour to los angeles

39:34

sitting next to an eleven year old kid that didn't want to talk

39:36

to me at , hollywood bus station

39:39

i saw a bus headed for san cisco and figured

39:41

what the heck maybe i'd get lucky on that bus

39:43

i spent the next ten hours retreats my route back

39:45

north sitting beside a guy who slept

39:47

the hallway i

39:50

had to wonder where were all the talkers

39:52

others chatty passengers i usually sit next

39:54

to me and share their stories about where the coming from

39:56

are going to

40:03

in reno i switch to a bus route

40:05

avoids the truth about the , that

40:07

headed south to old mining towns down to

40:09

las vegas vegas attempts

40:11

to find out who wrote a particular bus lead bus

40:14

i approached the other half dozen passengers one by one

40:17

the no one would talk to me the

40:19

bus from las vegas to flagstaff arizona

40:22

after woman sitting next to me if i could record our

40:24

conversation for the radio she

40:26

, like us nuts nuts

40:28

wanna talk to me about graham for the radio

40:31

radio station is station is

40:33

explained it's a show that's on

40:35

different stations that's different cities what

40:38

station is it on in station angeles fence yes

40:41

in angeles on the sir

40:44

you want to record me for the radio and union

40:46

station it is yeah right she scoffed

40:49

gimme a break

40:55

he alerted the other passengers around us that was trying

40:57

to pull something over on her you

40:59

know verbally assaulted from all sides the

41:02

but of everyone's jokes the

41:04

put the tape recorder away and stared out the window the

41:07

enthusiasm for this trip was rapidly dwindling

41:13

the rest up i think away from the

41:16

pack of passengers who are smoking cigarettes

41:18

and ridiculing me sit , by

41:20

myself maybe i've

41:22

been wrong maybe there wasn't

41:24

anything significant on the minds of crayon passes

41:26

after all and

41:28

smoke break ended the reluctantly got

41:30

sat on the bus

41:36

and any busters you they

41:38

some sort of access like the drunk

41:40

guy who smells like urine or the woman

41:42

babbling to herself then it dawned

41:44

on me the dorky headphones

41:47

on my head but long microphone

41:49

in hand trying to get people to let

41:51

me interview them about whether going

41:54

it was me

41:55

i was the weird on this bus

41:57

hulu

41:59

well

42:04

nobody else will cost me and

42:07

a couple people and

42:12

nine more our

42:14

school

42:17

are you going

42:19

near in the middle of the and help

42:22

me as well

42:26

we're

42:29

somewhere in the desert

42:32

any for

42:35

, a her clear

42:37

the guy legacy

42:39

about

42:41

dirty miles and

42:43

all lot of dirt

42:47

i guess i didn't have much more to say than anybody

42:49

else on the bus

43:01

all these years i posted of being some sort of hearty

43:03

greyhound passenger impervious

43:05

other things that many people complain about the

43:08

, never ending rides the

43:10

annoying passengers to claustrophobia

43:13

claustrophobia , i sat next guy vomiting

43:15

on himself in his no big deal big

43:17

sat across the aisle from people having noisy sex

43:20

noisy didn't bother me the now

43:22

understood the greyhound was starting

43:25

to get me

43:30

and but the phoenix a family of

43:33

wedge between the window and a guy who took away too

43:35

much and i see

43:36

i try to sleep for the first time and days but found

43:38

that a couldn't the whole body

43:40

was sore at shooting pains in the

43:42

back my size a backache

43:45

i had a headache the baby in front

43:47

of me cried the hallway the toddler

43:49

behind me got smacked around for not sitting still

43:52

after having been pumped up on candy becoming

43:54

increasingly claustrophobic i'm

43:57

beginning to lose it normally

44:01

i survive long bus rides by concentrating on

44:03

my destination the now i didn't

44:05

have a destination i wasn't really

44:07

going anywhere how can

44:09

i expect to find anyone in the transitional state

44:12

when i was even in transition myself

44:14

maybe this was the problem with the whole mission

44:17

that is being a regular greyhound passenger

44:20

there was an outsider

44:27

a third in line for the bus las cruces new mexico

44:29

trying to come down i , i

44:31

was in control so i watched a mother dragged

44:33

her kicking and crying toddler across the bus station

44:36

by the kids here here snapped

44:38

accent take accent to can handle being

44:40

constantly surrounded by so many people anymore

44:43

the sure wasn't celia home like sure wasn't do

44:47

that that a line for the less cruises bus

44:49

i had to get home sadly

44:52

portland was still a thirty six hour right away

45:03

the arizona california border a

45:05

new pastor sat down across the aisle for me

45:08

needing any more abuse from strangers or

45:10

is it to my initial temptation to talk with her the

45:13

couple miles down the road i watched her

45:15

pull a polaroid photo from her purse stare

45:17

at it for a half minute and then took it back in her purse

45:20

minute later said the photo out again and

45:23

this time as like a peak saw that of the

45:25

photo of her sitting in the lap of lap guy wearing prison

45:27

garb he had boarded

45:29

the person a prison town i ,

45:31

you'd probably just visit a jailed boyfriend or

45:33

husband husband yet sit

45:35

on the bus for who knows how many hours and dwell

45:38

upon the person's gets us gets last

45:40

i thought the one person or than looking for

45:42

in this whole trip someone and transition

45:45

someone who can help me prove my theory about the bus

45:48

her name is lisa and she was just was suspicious

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of me as any other pastor had been which

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he did consensual or to resist

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conversation think a very far she

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gave only one or two were replaced most my questions

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eventually , ended up asking me the majority of the

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questions questions a couple

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of awkward minutes and put the microphone a tip

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quarter way she stared

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at stared photograph some more while photograph some the desert

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missing sunlit

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half hour later after the bus had

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dark and the people dozed off lease

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attack me on the arm and told me she had inherited

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powers from her grandmother powers

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with which she could grant me any wish i desired

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for this service should only charged me five

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dollars at

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my shop she said he's a church ten

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or twenty dollars for with she says

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just like that ten or twenty dollars well

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five dollars for a wish seem like a bargain so

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i started coming up the hundred the nichols had one

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analyst pig a slot machine that

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she said it only work with a five dollar bill

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i didn't have any fires by did have a ten

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the tunnel where she said

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i followed her instructions footing

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the bill into a little ball and handed it to her

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the squeeze in her fist and said that

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make a wish that you can tell anyone

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what it is they made

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a wish then

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she told me i tell her my second and third wishes these

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places are important too the not as

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important as a super important first wish well

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in my state i only had one wish they need fulfilling

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second and third wishes wishing

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for better health and a new romance the

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dark bus she , across

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the aisle assuring me that now and

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better health and that i could expect a new lover

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my life since

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yes me a teller my super important with when

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number one with but

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you told me not to tell me what i said you

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can tell me she said but don't tell anyone

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i told her i wished i wasn't riding the bus

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her she said you're

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, of riding the bus and can

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see it in your face that's your very

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bit about my face and described how tired

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my ten in her pocket meanwhile

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series of moments that you never could

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ninety nine day and she's wearing

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and nineteen seventy seven bleach blonde

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farrah fawcett feather do

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and electrical blue maybelline

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mascara which gone dress

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nicely with the lime green polyester managers

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pantsuit she's got on and

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she telling me now not for under

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fifty dollars a night not

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for under fifty dollars a night will she let me leave

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my car in the parking lot of her paw

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paw michigan speedway convenience

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store gas station this

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in and out buying ships

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what i'm going to do with afford links i've borrowed from

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my friend which is now that a split

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valve or something and as bus at all to hell

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and i'm in the middle of goddamn nowhere

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on the other side of the woes yes on my

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way to kalamazoo for a getaway weekend

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i wanted to see

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america

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after why can't leave my car an apartment

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he does it the room i

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ask who makes the decisions about that rule

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today

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there is company policy

51:09

well whose company as

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he drove me as her company and she doesn't break

51:14

the rules

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you little

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they i can you be a friend i'm thinking

51:20

to myself i don't say it but boy i'd

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i remind her very softly about american

51:27

hospitality and how americans

51:30

are known the world over for their

51:32

friendly peaceful helping nature

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the teller that i noticed that my way and through her

51:37

charming little town a sweet

51:40

and simple search with a banner out front

51:42

that read bold yet humble pop

51:44

off or jesus there a few

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customers in the store so i say it again

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louder pop off or jesus

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op offer jesus

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an older gentleman with and abraham lincoln

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beard and and elvis presley clause

51:58

stares at me blankly the manager

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tells me that cut the crap and good as the store

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look at her name badge marianne oh

52:07

get out of your store but , never

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coming back to pop law law

52:12

i turn and walk and as

52:14

i walk away ice accidentally

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shove my body against a candy bar display

52:19

case knocking over hundreds and thousands

52:21

of three musketeers receive special

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dark and snickers sweetheart

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fly and spill and grand

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gesture of public nuisance that's

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it misses marianne says from

52:32

behind the counter your big city asses

52:34

put on poem double

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the you idiot

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i think to myself on my way out the door

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no i'm not married

52:42

to you

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i make it is i weigh in no time flat

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speed walk backwards with my some near

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calling out to passing cars papa

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jesus papa for jesus

53:00

a few cars aren't and way but nobody stops

53:03

i can't imagine it might be what i'm wearing

53:05

the same jet black cocktail dress i wore the

53:07

night before my lips

53:09

get us to blood red for broad daylight in a small town

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my papa the i just

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don't seem like i belong here the

53:16

around preserve her

53:18

the chevy van on with a mural

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painted on the side depicting what king arthur

53:22

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53:24

hundred are there were

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to gold mash nuclear clean up soon

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they're your sword in one hand and a laser

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nude and amply buxom the

53:36

her pubic hair might be she holds the holy

53:38

grail the driver leans

53:40

over and opens the door the

53:43

man

53:44

what a surprise i

53:46

get in

53:51

here's how it is is never seen me

53:53

before maybe , i don't

53:56

pose nude for playboy at

53:58

the mention of playboy he said

53:59

then the gas see the two hundred and

54:02

five i've never done one hundred

54:04

and five and a chevy van before i feel

54:06

pretty good faster i say

54:08

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54:10

out my window stick my head out and yells

54:12

far botha jesus to the wind

54:15

i feel like taking up my top but i don't

54:18

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54:20

to the passenger seat and could severely

54:22

vinyl

54:23

light a cigarette

54:24

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54:26

speedwagon tape is got blasting

54:30

the ask me why hitchhiking and just

54:32

as he does a sheriff's car speeds past us

54:34

on his way back into town that's why

54:36

i say that what

54:39

am i got against cops he wants to now nothing

54:41

just that i'm allergic to abort

54:46

the courage to me at this point to shut

54:48

up the don't know this man

54:50

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54:53

of marianne manager of the speed

54:55

way who is daughter of the sheriff of papa

54:58

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55:01

one grade whirling moments

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55:06

what i must jus and that a sham

55:08

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55:10

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55:12

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55:15

in the woods beverly dans les gens

55:17

afford or forward from an army officer

55:19

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55:25

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55:36

you prepare myself as his role of a lifetime

55:38

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55:41

the next neck is nasty with sweat

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55:45

the stale sweet taste of a flat mountain

55:47

dew

55:49

i forced myself to enjoy by

55:51

the end of a last resort new kid in town

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wasted time and wasted time reprised

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he is and you is food is alone and

55:59

i am wearing blue corduroy levi's

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a queen cancer t shirt and a seed

56:04

gap with an american flag that reads dry

56:06

burning this one mother the

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what lay i create an him the most

56:11

urgent desire to pull over to the side of the road

56:15

while i'm straddling his lap i somehow

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open the door with my foot and with my very

56:20

strong legs kick him out of the van down

56:22

onto the asphalt his stand

56:24

sorry eyes looking up at me and surprise

56:27

dude you lose something

56:30

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56:37

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